| twitter | You are welcome. It's a shame these things are not public knowledge. | Nov 19 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | You disrupt revisionism. | Nov 19 19:21 |
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| twitter | The author of the above history found the facts but failed to put 2 and 2 together. | Nov 19 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | The story goes like this... "Gates was a poor kid who brought computers to the masses and then started saving babies in Africa" | Nov 19 19:22 |
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| twitter | It is also interesting to note that one of Gates' first projects involved automobile traffic monitoring. | Nov 19 19:22 |
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| twitter | truth disrupts bullshit. | Nov 19 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | Motto.sig | Nov 19 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | New video.. netware junk: http://uk.youtube.com/watc... | Nov 19 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Amarok just crash. First time since I set up this PC in July, I think. | Nov 19 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | *crashed | Nov 19 19:27 |
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| twitter | wow, I've never seen that happen. | Nov 19 19:27 |
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| twitter | local files or stream? | Nov 19 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | Local. | Nov 19 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't even notice it cause it was on another desktop. DIdn't respond to global shortcuts, so I went there to check. | Nov 19 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | Whoa | Nov 19 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | The company from the CS department over here is to be acquired by IBM, probably | Nov 19 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/news/st... (IBM Announces Plans to Acquire Transitive) | Nov 19 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | For failurelog? Firms charge employees for Vista boot-up times < http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ne... > | Nov 19 19:34 |
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| twitter | Hmmm, I think I added that already. Let me check. | Nov 19 19:36 |
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| _doug | ot: Understanding the Financial Crisis http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gF6LbFDjvW0 | Nov 19 19:38 |
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| _doug | ot: The Mortgage Banking Meltdown http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HSjEyOp2dEM | Nov 19 19:38 |
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| _doug | Vista boot times .. haaaa .... | Nov 19 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | Vista 7 WIll Fix Everything (R). It only takes 7 more seconds. | Nov 19 19:40 |
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| _doug | I usually switch on and go for a stroll, by the time I get back something might be happening on screen :) | Nov 19 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | Good comment here from a BN reader: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m... | Nov 19 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | Eruaran: ""Moonlight" is not Free Software, its not Silverlight and it is an insult to the idea and principles of Open Source. It is a patent trap that is only "licenced" to be available through Novell (Microsoft sock puppet) and run on Microsoft approved Novell Ballnux (Ballmers patent infected and compromised Linux) as part of Microsoft's protection racket." | Nov 19 19:43 |
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| _doug | MS anti-virus will be "architected for a smaller footprint that will use fewer computing resources, making it ideal for low-bandwidth scenarios or less powerful PCs" | Nov 19 19:44 |
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| _doug | http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/pres... | Nov 19 19:44 |
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| _doug | What does this mean ? | Nov 19 19:44 |
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| _doug | 'low-bandwidth scenarios', what has bandwidth got to do with doing a pattern match on a local file ? | Nov 19 19:45 |
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| _doug | 'Built on Microsoft’s award-winning malware protection engine, "Morro" will' | Nov 19 19:46 |
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| twitter | that's about keeping the useless database of matches up to date. | Nov 19 19:46 |
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| _doug | Wasn't there a test of AV software a while back .. Onecare came out last ? | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | Award-winning? | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | Gosh | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| MinceR | it will update tomorro. | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| MinceR | ;) | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | The 'masses' will fall for it. | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| twitter | I don't think so. They have yet to be fooled by Vista. | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: OneCare is indeed one of the worst | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | It also nuked people's mailboxes of PCs | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | it's one of the worst products they have. | Nov 19 19:47 |
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| _doug | "When used in conjunction with the ongoing security and privacy enhancements of Windows and Internet Explorer" | Nov 19 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | Judge Dismisses Psystar Antitrust Suit Against Apple < http://www.informationweek.com/news/hard... > | Nov 19 19:48 |
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| _doug | translation: only core Windows components and Iexolorer need Morro ... | Nov 19 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | So they can carry on bundling. | Nov 19 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | Hardware+software | Nov 19 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | Will Morro[n] work with other browsers? | Nov 19 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | As in "third piraties [sic]' apps? | Nov 19 19:49 |
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| MinceR | arrrrrrrrr! | Nov 19 19:50 |
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| twitter | something cool from Debian. http://screenshots.debian.net/ | Nov 19 19:51 |
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| _doug | If Iexplorer operates in a sandbox, then why does it need AV protection ? | Nov 19 19:51 |
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| MinceR | because it's a microsoft sandbox | Nov 19 19:52 |
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| twitter | ha ha | Nov 19 19:53 |
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| twitter | might be contained if run in Wine. | Nov 19 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmmmmmmmm..... | Nov 19 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | Here's something odd... | Nov 19 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | Yesterday there was an article called "The Microsoft-Novell Linux deal two years later". | Nov 19 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | It was very damaging to Microsoft and Novell. | Nov 19 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | So this morning they release the press release "Microsoft and Novell Mark Two Years of Interoperability Progress". Similar headlines. Coincidence? Attempt to disguise something? | Nov 19 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | What do you think? http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/ma... vs http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl... | Nov 19 20:04 |
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| jose | it will be interesting to see if someone with microsoft ties takes over yahoo from yang. if yhoo drops enough, it might not get officially bought by msft but it might effectively get owned by them+supporters.. | Nov 19 20:08 |
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| jose | a similar argument might apply to google or to others though i find the ms possibility more distasteful but also more interesting | Nov 19 20:09 |
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| twitter | Missed them both, but yes, M$ intentionally makes articles with confusing names. Vista Failure Log was once the 7th result for Vista Failure. Now it's impossible to find without log. | Nov 19 20:10 |
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| twitter | Funny thing is that they had to do a lot of talking about Vista Failure to do that. Most of the search results now are of the "It's not a failure" kind. | Nov 19 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | Puppet regime? Will a Microsoft veteran become Yahoo CEO? < http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micro... > | Nov 19 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | jose: it's likely that they'll control Yahoo! by proxyt | Nov 19 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | They already pushed their cronies into Yahoo | Nov 19 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | Several key execs, Icahn etx | Nov 19 20:12 |
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| jose | a minority.. we'll see | Nov 19 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | And in this lawful state they might get away with it. | Nov 19 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | There's lot of good GNU/Linux news today.. | Nov 19 20:13 |
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| jose | just looked at the ms exec suggested for yhoo ceo article.. disgusting | Nov 19 20:14 |
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| schestowitz | Who suggested them though? | Nov 19 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | This is a Microsoft blog.. it's biased | Nov 19 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | What sickens me more is rewriting of history where Microsoft might try to describe a takeover as Microsoft "doing a favour" to Yahoo or saving them rather than breaking the law to destroy the company, which is the truth (they even did AstroTurfing) | Nov 19 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | IDG is playing dirty. | Nov 19 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | It spread the same article all over its many domains but changes the headlines each time in order to gain SEPRPs | Nov 19 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | Wait. ZDNet is now doing the exact same thing, which is rare. It's about GroupWise 8 being released. | Nov 19 20:22 |
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| _doug | new Mac 'trojan' discovered .. http://www.theregister.co.uk/200... | Nov 19 20:24 |
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| _doug | "The malware typically disguises itself as video codec on dodgy websites." | Nov 19 20:25 |
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| _doug | So it isn't a trojan, a worm or a virus .. | Nov 19 20:25 |
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| *_doug has quit () | Nov 19 20:26 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, where you a Wordpress hacker? | Nov 19 20:27 |
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| trmanco | were* | Nov 19 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, still am. | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| trmanco | I just found an email of yours | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| trmanco | from the year 2004 | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| trmanco | cool | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I was there in the earlier days. | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | WordPress has become a company since then.. Automattic. | Nov 19 20:28 |
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| trmanco | cool | Nov 19 20:29 |
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| trmanco | you were also using suSe those days :-P | Nov 19 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, until 2006 | Nov 19 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | Although I waited for the 'cycle' to end before trashing the thing. It's a shame really because I lobbied the CS Department for SUSE back in 2004. | Nov 19 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | They went with Fedora despite many of us who advocated SUSE (SuSE at the time) | Nov 19 20:31 |
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| twitter | Good for them | Nov 19 20:31 |
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| jose | prescient | Nov 19 20:32 |
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| _doug | back again .. | Nov 19 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_sto... "openSuSE-11.1-beta4 was released c. 31st October " | Nov 19 20:32 |
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| twitter | M$FT $18.75 just one penny above 52 week low. | Nov 19 20:33 |
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| _doug | "The Trojan then opens a command shell, which allows a user to select an application and a port number. The chosen application can then be used as a back door, which allows a remote attacker to gain access to the compromised computer. The Trojan copies the executable file for the chosen application to the following location:" | Nov 19 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | I see a pattern in the news (still fallen WAY behind): Linux picked up by the big companies (lots more today), Microsoft just manipulating... Yahoo, bloggers for Vista 7 vapourware, etc. | Nov 19 20:33 |
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| _doug | technically speaking. how is this not a trojan ? | Nov 19 20:34 |
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| _doug | http://www.malwarehelp.org/osxla... | Nov 19 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | It's tiresome when bloggers keep mentioning this vapourware that won't out until 2010 and the earliest and be just another Vista. | Nov 19 20:34 |
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| twitter | Working on links to big company GNU/Linux adoption? | Nov 19 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | They mention is very often so that CIOs feel like it's already here and wait [well, for nothing really] | Nov 19 20:34 |
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| twitter | Wintel people don't know what else to talk about, they are under "mind control" | Nov 19 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: Fujitsu, IBM, Cisco, Moto.. | Nov 19 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of press releases today... | Nov 19 20:35 |
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| twitter | ding, new low for M$. 18.73 and going down. | Nov 19 20:35 |
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| twitter | oops, it was 18.70 | Nov 19 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | A site called American Chronicle should be banned from Google for spamming Google News for ages. It promotes some software repetitively.. http://www.americanchronicle.com/... | Nov 19 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | Sys-con too has been spamming Google News like HELL. | Nov 19 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of keyword stuffing (total nonesense, no content) comes in... in large numbers. | Nov 19 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | PJ told me to report them to Google and have them banned from the feed, but who does one report abuse to? | Nov 19 20:37 |
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| twitter | They can't have pesky publications like Slashdot and BN show up in the results, now can they? | Nov 19 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | No. | Nov 19 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | Well, /. is there. I see the BN stuff in Google News... but the India BN under /. only. | Nov 19 20:37 |
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| twitter | Slashdot was showing up in tech feeds for a while | Nov 19 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | Also covered in InfoWorld where my name and site are mentioned. | Nov 19 20:38 |
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| twitter | Must be why they kicked up the spam effort and conferences. | Nov 19 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | Traffic is BN is higher than usual. | Nov 19 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: /. just doesn't cover much FOSS anymore. | Nov 19 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | It's in it for the money. Freedom doesn't pay bills, not necessarily anyway. | Nov 19 20:38 |
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| _doug | . | Nov 19 20:39 |
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| _doug | slashdot got showed the money, just take a look at the adverts .. | Nov 19 20:39 |
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| twitter | "Mind control" M$ stuffs the firehose. FOSS news slips by. BN picks up way more than /. can. | Nov 19 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Merely every post from Zonker makes the feed due to his disclosure: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community... | Nov 19 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Slashdot is sponsored by Microsoft. | Nov 19 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | True. | Nov 19 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | SourceForge has them as a sponsor. $ | Nov 19 20:40 |
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| twitter | $ 18.50 | Nov 19 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | Good comment: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?... | Nov 19 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: back in 2006... | Nov 19 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | Scoble left (maybe it was 2005, I think) | Nov 19 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | You know what he said when he left? | Nov 19 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | MSFT is on a freefall. It was nearly below $20 ($22+ IIRC) and THEN.... MASSIVE buybacks began | Nov 19 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | 2 years later and the company lost like $40bn of its money. I could remember this wrong.. | Nov 19 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | The comment above states: " | Nov 19 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | With still enormous cash reserves, Microsoft will likely survive this sharp economic downturn as a corporation, but if the economy drops into depression, Microsoft is much less likely to emerge afterwards with its monopoly position intact." | Nov 19 20:42 |
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| twitter | " shouldn’t we be expecting a “Golden Age” for open source, with all the idle programmers and IT folks at home with time on their hands? " | Nov 19 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | Which I disagree with because Microsoft too is already looking to LOAN money | Nov 19 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | But it has people under mind control | Nov 19 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | It hypnotises people. | Nov 19 20:43 |
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| twitter | No, we should not. Free software gets written because people have time and need. Unemployed people are discouraged and start to lose critical work skills. | Nov 19 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | Google BN for 'hypnosis'. I wrote about this because people told me stories about Microsoft's masterful use of the press to hypnotise people.... having them tell of those who deny Microsoft as omnipotent. | Nov 19 20:44 |
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| twitter | Those are the skills that makes free software useful at the application level. Unemployment for free software developers is a bad thing. | Nov 19 20:44 |
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| _doug | slashdot.advert: Windows sysadmins with a clue use Rsync.net | Nov 19 20:45 |
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| twitter | M$ is anything but masterful and omnipotent today. | Nov 19 20:45 |
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| _doug | C:\> rsync | Nov 19 20:45 |
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| twitter | rsync.net? wtf? | Nov 19 20:45 |
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| twitter | why not rsync or grsync? | Nov 19 20:45 |
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| _doug | see the site .. http://www.rsync.net/products... | Nov 19 20:47 |
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| _doug | "Standard Offsite Filesystem - $1.20 / GB per month" | Nov 19 20:47 |
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| twitter | Sounds kind of expensive. | Nov 19 20:48 |
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| _doug | the Offsite nature of the service sounds good ... | Nov 19 20:48 |
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| _doug | gtg .. | Nov 19 20:48 |
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| *_doug has quit () | Nov 19 20:48 |
| twitter | most host services offer rsync and offer better rates than that. | Nov 19 20:49 |
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| twitter | $ 18.32 | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| twitter | I almost feel sorry for them. | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| twitter | but I don't | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | Yay! | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | My KDE bug is finally being resolved. | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | Took them a month to pick up my report | Nov 19 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cg... | Nov 19 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | $17.xx by day's end? Quick. I'll get a screenie | Nov 19 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | $ 18.32 today's low? Can you confirm? | Nov 19 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. 18.25 Down | Nov 19 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Real time. | Nov 19 20:53 |
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| jose | schestowitz, i'm catching up on this irc chat so give me a minute but "It's tiresome when bloggers keep mentioning this vapourware that won't out until 2010"... | Nov 19 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. | Nov 19 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Novell at 3.80 | Nov 19 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Down 10% | Nov 19 20:56 |
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| jose | is a way to keep Microsoft in developer's mind (like you posted recently). You don't want people to forget about you, to have time to think about the options, to think you have taken a hit and won't come back, etc | Nov 19 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | I'm doing a funny post | Nov 19 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/1... Cheeky. | Nov 19 21:06 |
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| twitter | Google's got 18.27 as the 52 week low now. | Nov 19 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/ne... < Letter: Computerworld or Microsoftworld? > | Nov 19 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | Finally someone points out that they have been brainwashed. | Nov 19 21:16 |
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| twitter | He concludes with, " You also really haven’t reported on the benefits that customers have got out of the Microsoft/Novell SUSE relationship." | Nov 19 21:18 |
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| twitter | It's hard to report nothing. | Nov 19 21:18 |
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| PetoKraus | "Google Mail voice and video chat is not yet available for Linux. " | Nov 19 21:18 |
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| PetoKraus | doh | Nov 19 21:18 |
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| PetoKraus | google should seriously stop shitting on linux users. | Nov 19 21:18 |
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| twitter | Nah, let them beta test on Windoze Guinea Pigs. :) | Nov 19 21:20 |
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| twitter | they are unimportant anyway. | Nov 19 21:20 |
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| twitter | It would be easier for them to pick reasonable standards and work with a GNU/Linux distribution. | Nov 19 21:21 |
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| twitter | of upstream package like GNome or KDE | Nov 19 21:21 |
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| twitter | upstream would be best. | Nov 19 21:21 |
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| jose | that letter to computerworld is a pro-novell piece | Nov 19 21:22 |
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| twitter | yeah, noticed that. | Nov 19 21:22 |
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| jose | yeah, i noticed you noticed | Nov 19 21:23 |
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| neighborlee | lol | Nov 19 21:23 |
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| neighborlee | :)hello btw-how goes it;0- | Nov 19 21:23 |
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| jose | :-) | Nov 19 21:24 |
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| jose | http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/blog-en... | Nov 19 21:25 |
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| jose | >> It was announced by MLB Advanced Media, major league baseball's online division, that video on MLB.com would no longer be delivered via Microsoft's Silverlight format but instead with Adobe Flash technology. | Nov 19 21:25 |
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| jose | microsoft failed this time around because flash was just to big and silverlight just too small | Nov 19 21:25 |
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| jose | did they get their money's worth though? | Nov 19 21:26 |
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| jose | too big not to big | Nov 19 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | jose: what's a standard? | Nov 19 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | PDF is a 'standard'. ISO is corruption. | Nov 19 21:29 |
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| jose | i'm not sure what you are really asking me | Nov 19 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks to Microsoft we now know. And 'thanks' to the 'brokeness' of things, this ceased to mean anything. | Nov 19 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | Google keeps ignoring even Web standards. | Nov 19 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | There should be laws against that.. just like accesibility laws that are used against govt. sites. | Nov 19 21:30 |
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| jose | google has every intention to maximize their shareholder wealth; they will use closed wherever they can get away with it | Nov 19 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | That doesn't matter. | Nov 19 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | They need rules against that. | Nov 19 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | Taking rocks and throwing boulders at Microsoft's headquarters might be good for GOogle's shareholders too. | Nov 19 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | .. and yet... they can't do that. On the other hand, Microsoft can attack Yahoo! using AstroTurfers, corrupt politicians, ultimatums, so-called 'activist investors'... | Nov 19 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | This is not competition. It's white-collar crime. | Nov 19 21:35 |
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| twitter | Dow broke 8000... ouch. | Nov 19 21:38 |
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| jose | that's why transparency and opening calling out misbehavior is so important | Nov 19 21:39 |
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| jose | .. it's one of the few ways those that follow the law or are open etc.. | Nov 19 21:40 |
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| jose | can even the playing field | Nov 19 21:40 |
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| jose | the best marketing against deception is pointing out that deception.. i think | Nov 19 21:40 |
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| neighborlee | jose, sweet, thx for posting that..flash anyday over M$shaft ;)) | Nov 19 21:40 |
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| jose | it was from linuxtoday | Nov 19 21:41 |
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| neighborlee | ah | Nov 19 21:41 |
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| jose | by brian proffitt actually | Nov 19 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: it was below that earlier. | Nov 19 21:43 |
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| jose | this one just on lt is a bit funny http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/11/wh... | Nov 19 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | There are always people who are drones. They say "this is business". Well, it shouldn't be. | Nov 19 21:44 |
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| jose | title: Why Free Software is a Con-Trick | Nov 19 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Richard Stallman once said, "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." | Nov 19 21:44 |
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| trmanco | http://searchengineland.com/microsoft-... | Nov 19 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Found this one by accident:: | Nov 19 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vi... " | Nov 19 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | And the conclusion is the same as the video: "Points Learned - Microsoft Sucks (Relearned). Microsoft Windows Vista Sucks (Relearned). Microsoft Windows Update should BE TURNED OFF from Automatic Updates (Not feasible or practicle, but I'd rather be hacked and whored than risk losing ALL MY FILES... | Nov 19 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | "again due to stupidity rather than devious ingenuity). RAID with Windows is trouble (sync a backup instead daily, or image weekly). And did I mention, Microsoft Sucks? Microsoft you owe me 14 hrs of my time," Echostormfury stated. " | Nov 19 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | I found this because I can't tell apart the Mariuses in Softpedia. IIRC, one hates Linux and one loves it. | Nov 19 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | MAFIAA takes over the Internet: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/11/riaa-wins-... ( RIAA Wins, Campuses Lose as Tennessee Governor Signs Campus Network Filtering Law ) | Nov 19 21:55 |
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| trmanco | http://www.betanews.com/article/Novell_and_Micros... | Nov 19 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Apple Macs Are Defective by Design: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/18/apple... | Nov 19 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Shame on Appel. | Nov 19 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: only the 'Microsoft people' seem to be writing about Moonlight | Nov 19 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0... http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/in... http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/ar... | Nov 19 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | All the Microsoft journalists promoting Microsoft DRM on the Web and neglect of Web standards. | Nov 19 21:58 |
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| trmanco | Silvylight poop | Nov 19 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Tell people to avoid Macs as much as they avoid Windows | Nov 19 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | The MAFIAA threatened these companies with a lawsuit about 3 years ago. | Nov 19 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | They can claimed to have been forced into it. IBM too should be treated with suspicion. They should sidles with Freedom, not the copyrights MAFIAA that thinks it owns the Web (information) | Nov 19 22:00 |
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| trmanco | Unpaid time while Vista boots results in lawsuits: http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/... *LOL* | Nov 19 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* Novell/SCO can't spell... http://www.groklaw.net/comment... | Nov 19 22:03 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, they must be using IE | Nov 19 22:05 |
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| trmanco | it doesn't have a built-in dictionary | Nov 19 22:06 |
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| trmanco | :p | Nov 19 22:06 |
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| jose | the gentoo user thing bothers me. | Nov 19 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | Trolling from Dvorak: Why Google Must Die < http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,... > | Nov 19 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: Windows has no spellchecker. It's GNU/Linux (Ubuntu in your case) that has aspell/ispell | Nov 19 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft uses lack of spellchecker to sell Office. | Nov 19 22:09 |
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| trmanco | no, I think it is myspell :-P | Nov 19 22:10 |
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| jose | his recent complaints seem reasonable. | Nov 19 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | jose: what do you suggest that I do? | Nov 19 22:10 |
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| jose | if he has a point somewhere and i don't know address it.. did you go too far.. that's what i mean.. he sounds upset | Nov 19 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | jose: all his past comments are abuse against twitter and others. It's a trouble-maker and that's what his thing is | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| jose | i noticed one recent one, but i don't follow | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | jose: do you remember 'eet'? | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| jose | link to it then. that seems to be what he is asking | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | He's still around under different names. | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| jose | maybe a little i think | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | He totally loses his sometimes and he attacks the site using comments. | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| jose | not sure though | Nov 19 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | Uses zombies, vulgarities, libel, whatever. | Nov 19 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | And they get more angry when the site has them cornered (I never delete comments) | Nov 19 22:12 |
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| jose | there is no point in attacking "gentoo user" or anyone except on the spot when they say something.. or else link to past wrongs | Nov 19 22:12 |
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| jose | if you only suspect, you should just make that clear. even consider apologizing for being uncertain if that is the case. | Nov 19 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | jose: First comment: "Not really relevant, but I noticed “twitter” from Slashdot is here. Anyone who is thinking of even listening to this person should read this: [URL]" | Nov 19 22:13 |
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| jose | otherwise attacks against twitter or anyone else end up provoking and giving them something to hold against you | Nov 19 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | "Are you the same twitter from Slashdot?" | Nov 19 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | to twitter: "I guess you’re everybody here as well, right?" | Nov 19 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | "There’s a story on the /. front page right now about Twitter (the service), and half the posts there seem to be jokes about you. I’d take that as a warning sign if I were you…" | Nov 19 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | He changes his colours now so that you don't see he's just there to harrass. | Nov 19 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Same with eet. | Nov 19 22:15 |
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| jose | which blog entry is this | Nov 19 22:15 |
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| jose | you did put one out pointing him out specifically | Nov 19 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | After being flagged he tried to seem polite all of a sudden and then whined about the flags... after making comparisons to Nazis and such stuff... before he was flagged. | Nov 19 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | See http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=... | Nov 19 22:16 |
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| jose | it has to be hard being in the line of fire as you are.. but i'm just saying that anytime you can manage to give the benefit of the doubt (or else link to specifics) would help your case and not distract from it | Nov 19 22:16 |
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| jose | he even suggested that you look over his past postings to give evidence | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | There's another stalker twitter. At least 2, but I've lost count. They both just attack messenger minutes after they comment. | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | jose: READERS asked me to delete his comment. | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | They said it was off-topic attacks. | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | I don't delete comments, so I needed to do something. | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| jose | that's what i mean. if he is cooked he is cooked but otherwise don't give anyone unnecessary weapons | Nov 19 22:17 |
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| jose | .. i know it's tough being in the line of fire so much, btw | Nov 19 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | Now, the issue that he only comments more when he's flagged is separate, but it always passes | Nov 19 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | The attacks are always bursty. | Nov 19 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | There were also the days when OpenSUSE people did that. | Nov 19 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | AlexH was throwing a fit too at times. Endless complaints.. | Nov 19 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | I risk annoying other people if I let his just attack others | Nov 19 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | eet actually drove people away. | Nov 19 22:19 |
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| jose | i'm not questioning that.. but he says to show the proof | Nov 19 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | SundayRefugee was attacked for 'daring' to leave comments in the site. | Nov 19 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | A case of reader attacks reader... I get lots of this in some sites where I no longer comment much. | Nov 19 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | Digg.com BTW was ruined by stalkers. | Nov 19 22:20 |
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| jose | i would like to reply to him but don't know if i have anything to say. i don't follow the comments here unless something special stood out but i don't even read all blogs or comments | Nov 19 22:20 |
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| jose | i saw the comment earlier about digg being ruined maybe we can resurrect it if the attackers have moved on | Nov 19 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | They always move somewhere else. | Nov 19 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | They gravitate towards wherever the most damage can be made. | Nov 19 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | They fumigate Slashdot, Digg, USENET until it's either not popular or the topic is changed to favour the Freedom opposers. | Nov 19 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | RMS caught up with: March of the dustbin Stasi: Half of councils use anti-terror laws to watch people putting rubbish out on the wrong day - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a... | Nov 19 22:29 |
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| twitter | Wow, Apple wants OSX to suck like Vista http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/... | Nov 19 22:30 |
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| twitter | M$ does not have enough people to ruin everything at the same time. | Nov 19 22:31 |
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| MinceR | well, it might be an improvement for osx | Nov 19 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | IBM tried TPM as well (TC?) | Nov 19 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Keep IBM from the Linux desktop ;-) not just because of the not-so-open 'Open Desktop' (Lotus blobs) | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| twitter | Yes, they put that into Thinkpads. I'm not sure what free software does with it. | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| MinceR | almost all manufacturer put it into their laptops | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | There are companies like Novell and IBM out there that want to deform Linux until it's as expensive and close as OS X. | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| MinceR | at least business models | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| MinceR | afaik | Nov 19 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | And then they'll call it 'The Linux OS', for only $150 with OOXML, Mono, etc. | Nov 19 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | Mixed source... | Nov 19 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | *closed | Nov 19 22:34 |
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| MinceR | what is IBM trying to push into linux? | Nov 19 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | Trusted Computing, AFAIK | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| MinceR | ic | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Treacherous? | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| MinceR | treacherous. | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| twitter | IBM has made good money in consulting. More, I think, than selling software. | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| MinceR | and ibm is far from alone in that way | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | H-P too. | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | They sell h/w | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tru... | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| twitter | hardware sales are fair. | Nov 19 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Fair enough really.. software then becomes a commodity and door to services. | Nov 19 22:36 |
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| MinceR | strangely crApple isn't listed there even though they were one of the first to include and use a TPM | Nov 19 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | It can be developer by peers as a set of 'hacks' (bug fixes and features) | Nov 19 22:36 |
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| twitter | If you a Chrysler, getting IBM to help your migration makes sense. | Nov 19 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | But most people cling on to the idea of selling 'licences' to binaries as though they are pieces of h/w | Nov 19 22:36 |
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| twitter | The practice is disturbing when it comes to medicine. | Nov 19 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | re: hardware sales, it's fair as long as there is NO price-fixing. | Nov 19 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | There's lots of this going on and patents too play a role. | Nov 19 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Rather than teaching one another how to make better chips people keep 'trade secrets' and precious IP (with lawsuits) | Nov 19 22:38 |
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| twitter | The software is very expensive but it's only useful with a huge chunk of hardware. You would think they would give the software away with hardware for the sake of sales and the patient! | Nov 19 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | So we're left with superior products and 0.0001% of the populations being sickly rich. | Nov 19 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | /s/superior/inferiror/ | Nov 19 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | *typo | Nov 19 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | The 'press' neglects to refer to this as a crime, which it is: http://vistasucks.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/mo... http://vistasucks.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/st... | Nov 19 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | "On Monday, Citigroup announced it would cut 52,000 jobs over the next few months in a dramatic cost-cutting move." < http://www.pcworld.com/article/154130/... > | Nov 19 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | IDG is boosting XAML again: Silverlight, for Real This Time < http://www.pcworld.com/article/154134/si... >. Microsoft must be running W-E around to prod journos | Nov 19 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft INNOVA~1 subscribing to a computer: http://www.pcworld.com/article/154... | Nov 19 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | Forget about owning a computer. Pay up for software, Microsoft still owns your physical computer. | Nov 19 22:46 |
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| schestowitz | PCWorld officially dead as a p-aper publication: http://www.pcworld.com/article/154... | Nov 19 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | Free labour for threat in *NUX??? "Beta testers required for Unix and Linux anti-virus" < http://www.prosecurityzone.com/Customisati... > | Nov 19 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | Shouldn’t Obama use Linux, and not a Mac? < http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/amanda/20... > | Nov 19 23:14 |
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| MinceR | ah, shit coming out of google, as usual | Nov 19 23:15 |
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| jose | if he did i think i hope he would recognize the potential. having a celebrity of that calibur on linux side would not be a bad idea. | Nov 19 23:20 |
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| jose | if used linux | Nov 19 23:21 |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 19 23:26 |
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| PetoKraus | right. How hard is it for someone to forge his IP for webpage? | Nov 19 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | Mandriva's results: http://www.mandriva.com/enterprise/en/financ... | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| PetoKraus | like, my ip is X.Y.W.Z; can someone easily pretend he's X.Y.W.Z as well? | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | Open proxies. | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| PetoKraus | well, that only conceals your IP | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | That's why filtering by IPs is pointless. | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | Unless the person you ban lives in a barn and uses AOL. | Nov 19 23:29 |
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| PetoKraus | it's not about banning | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | What's it related to? | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| PetoKraus | i just wanna know how hard it is for someone | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| PetoKraus | to pretend he's someone else | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| PetoKraus | by forging HIS ip adress | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| PetoKraus | like, can i force my browser somehow to send your IP address to the server i am talking to instead of mine? | Nov 19 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | No, not without network cr|hacking | Nov 19 23:32 |
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| PetoKraus | yup | Nov 19 23:32 |
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| PetoKraus | therefore, if i design my "digital signature" to be IP based | Nov 19 23:33 |
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| PetoKraus | if that guy doesn't use some open proxy, or use different networks, or is behind nat | Nov 19 23:33 |
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| PetoKraus | no one else will be able to have the same "digital signature" (if the hash is perfect and the other person is NOT on the same subnet) | Nov 19 23:34 |
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| PetoKraus | it's fun to design your own content management system from scratch | Nov 19 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | You can reuse a lot though | Nov 19 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | See Drigg | Nov 19 23:39 |
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| PetoKraus | it's more fun to... "invent" it | Nov 19 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | More room for error, as well. | Nov 19 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | WordPress was hacked b2 | Nov 19 23:42 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: yes, but IMO more fun ;) | Nov 19 23:57 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway, i hope you already have my rss feed in your reader :P | Nov 19 23:57 |
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| PetoKraus | i am crying about the lack of HTML5 | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Yes. | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | What's the topic? | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| PetoKraus | nah, i just posted a short video i made | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | THML5? Fuh-get-aboutit | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| PetoKraus | (http://pk.gjhak.sk/?uid=111) | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Adobe and Microsoft have different plans. | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Like XAML... Flex... | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| PetoKraus | and there's no way to embed video | Nov 19 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | It's important to promote Ajax | Nov 19 23:59 |
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| PetoKraus | while not using javascript | Nov 19 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft ignores SVG to stifle Ajax | Nov 19 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Just the type of c* you come to expect from a monopolist. Even timbl (father of the Web) complained about them, re: SVG | Nov 19 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: FF 3.1 will have ogg and <vodeo> out of the box | Nov 19 23:59 |
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