| schestowitz | building the public domain < http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/nesson/... > | Jan 21 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/20... (Akamai Sees Record Traffic During Inauguration) | Jan 21 13:32 |
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| schestowitz | Windows worm trickery for Vista < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tech... > | Jan 21 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | Shock! The MSBBS calls a "computer" "Windows" and "Vista" for a change. | Jan 21 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi... "Mr McKinnon's legal team have asked the DPP to charge him under UK law, rather than extraditing him to the US." | Jan 21 13:41 |
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| schestowitz | When will Big Criminals like Carl Icahn be arrested rather than a Perl hacker who was curious but not so harmful? | Jan 21 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | "Cellular-infrastructure manufacturer Ericsson will lay off 5,000 in a bid to cut costs, ahead of the expected reduction in spending from telcos over the next few years." < http://www.theregister.co.uk/... > | Jan 21 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | Logitech too: The firm will now cut up to 600 jobs, rather than the 525 earlier predicted. < http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01... > | Jan 21 13:54 |
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| *schestowitz uses a Logitech mouse. | Jan 21 13:54 |
| *MinceR uses logitech mice, too | Jan 21 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Gratis trap... Free software is answer to small businesses woes < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/526/... > YAY! Free crack-cocaine. | Jan 21 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | TARP II: Money for Banks, Not Homeowners < http://www.truthout.org/011909A > "But, as is the case with many Washington policies, this money is also going to end up in the bankers' pockets. The basic deal is simple. More than ten million homeowners are underwater, owing more than the market value of their home. Millions of these homeowners have fallen behind on their mortgages and now face foreclosure." | Jan 21 14:06 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah... as Beranger says, "The USA is the greatest nation under the sun..." | Jan 21 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-nov-... " Obama's choice for Attorney General supports Bush's formerly-illegal surveillance. Obama has never said he would try to restore the rights that Bush took away from us. Unless he does this, or tries his best, I will not support him. " | Jan 21 14:08 |
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| trmanco | Symbol Last Time(ET) Change %Change Volume | Jan 21 14:15 |
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| trmanco | MSFT 18.48 4:00PM -1.23 -6.24% 89891855 | Jan 21 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | So much for Free software from Sun.. cloud lockin.. Sun eyes cloudware position < http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0... > | Jan 21 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: the whole market sank | Jan 21 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://finance.yahoo.com/intli... | Jan 21 14:15 |
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| trmanco | oh yeah, I haven't noticed | Jan 21 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | It's a US-only thing. | Jan 21 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | Obama? | Jan 21 14:16 |
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| trmanco | Not really | Jan 21 14:17 |
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| trmanco | at least 2 portuguese stock went down | Jan 21 14:17 |
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| trmanco | stocks* | Jan 21 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | 2 stocks? | Jan 21 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | How many are there? | Jan 21 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they will go up if you enable AcftiveX and press F5 to reload the page :-D | Jan 21 14:21 |
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| trmanco | the stock price of at least two portuguese companies went down too :-P | Jan 21 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | But how many companies are there? | Jan 21 14:22 |
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| schestowitz | *Publicly traded | Jan 21 14:22 |
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| trmanco | don't know | Jan 21 14:22 |
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| schestowitz | Reader says: "I guess it just bothers me when the trolls are so eager to attack you that they don't even bother to read what you wrote. They just assume bad faith, which makes them ineffective and no better than what they claim you are. Another example of a troll is G. Michaels." | Jan 21 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | "Everything he writes rests on the assumption of bad faith and his supposed superiority. If I weren't so sickened, I'd laugh. There are a couple of mitigating factors here. At least, I didn't mention the troll to whom I was responding by name and these trolls aren't FLOSS advocates, which would make the cause look bad by association." | Jan 21 14:43 |
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| trmanco | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?si... | Jan 21 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | Haha | Jan 21 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | Solaris->Linux | Jan 21 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | Akamai | Jan 21 15:33 |
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| trmanco | It still runs windows | Jan 21 15:33 |
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| trmanco | According to the [whitehouse.gov] website headers: | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Cache-Control: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | private, max-age=805 | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Connection: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | keep-alive | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Content-Encoding: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | gzip | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Content-Length: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | 8130 | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Content-Type: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | text/html; charset=utf-8 | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Date: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:24:08 GMT | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | P3P: | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | CP="NON DSP COR ADM DEV IVA OTPi OUR LEG" | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Server: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Microsoft-IIS/6.0 <--- | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Vary: (spec) | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | Accept-Encoding | Jan 21 15:34 |
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| trmanco | X-AspNet-Version: | Jan 21 15:35 |
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| trmanco | 2.0.50727 <--- | Jan 21 15:35 |
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| trmanco | title="White House.gov Agenda Articles Feed" href="/feed/agenda.aspx | Jan 21 15:35 |
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| trmanco | title="White House.gov Press Office Feed" href="/feed/press.aspx | Jan 21 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/21/... | Jan 21 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | Updatesd | Jan 21 15:40 |
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| trmanco | that info I got from digg | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | but I can now really confirm that is still runs Windows | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | $ w3m -dump_head http://whitehouse.gov | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | HTTP/1.0 200 OK | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | P3P: CP="NON DSP COR ADM DEV IVA OTPi OUR LEG" | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727 | Jan 21 15:41 |
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| trmanco | Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Vary: Accept-Encoding | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Content-Encoding: gzip | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Content-Length: 8129 | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Cache-Control: private, max-age=866 | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:44:28 GMT | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | Connection: close | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | np | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| trmanco | I don't know what happened with netcraft on this one | Jan 21 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | The racists won't be happy with someone who's not White in the Whitehouse | Jan 21 15:43 |
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| trmanco | well, I guess Obama is "their boss" now | Jan 21 15:43 |
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| trmanco | so they have to like him, or they can just leave, and continue on living their life as they want with no conflicts | Jan 21 15:44 |
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| trmanco | nuce update :) | Jan 21 15:46 |
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| trmanco | nice* | Jan 21 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | wb, balzac | Jan 21 16:31 |
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| balzac | Thanks Roy | Jan 21 16:37 |
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| schestowitz | I'm working on a doc you wanna see... | Jan 21 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | I'm actually htmlifying it | Jan 21 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | OK, updated: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/21/c... | Jan 21 16:50 |
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| schestowitz | Reader: "[T]the BayStar deal was one of the stupidest things Microsoft has done, don't you think? How could they have possibly believed that it would never be found out, especially when they stiffed Goldfarb and left him holding the bag? It's astounding." | Jan 21 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Is_it_GN... "If you are going to give credit where credit it due the best name would be the "GLX operating system"" | Jan 21 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | "X-For X Windows, what makes having a GUI in "Linux" possible" | Jan 21 17:16 |
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| Tallken | Link for the day: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/01/... "How cool is that? Scott, being asked by the incoming administration, ON THEIR FIRST DAY IN OFFICE, to discuss the benefits of FOSS and Open Standards for Government use." | Jan 21 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 21 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | They asked the wrong person | Jan 21 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | They should have asked Jonathan Schwartz | Jan 21 17:24 |
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| Tallken | better than nothing though | Jan 21 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | Or Silver Lie | Jan 21 17:26 |
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| Tallken | :p | Jan 21 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | I can't find a pic of Seven. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Bundy | Jan 21 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marr... | Jan 21 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Google Kills Print Ads Program < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158026/goog... > | Jan 21 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: how can this be?!? | Jan 21 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | IBM Posts Strong Q4 Profits, No Layoffs Announced < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158015/ibm_posts_s... > MS is up next.. probably a promise to cut workforce | Jan 21 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Good for YouTube: UK Kids Prefer Computers to TVs < http://www.pcworld.com/article/15801... > | Jan 21 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | "A payment processor responsible for handling about 100 million credit card transactions every month disclosed today that thieves had used malicious software in its network in 2008 to steal an unknown number of credit card numbers." < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158003/... > | Jan 21 18:00 |
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| MinceR | dunno | Jan 21 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | More evidence of Microsoft as a criminal political movement: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/1... | Jan 21 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | This a dangerous cult that needs to be dismantled, but I doubt Obama is up to the task. | Jan 21 18:08 |
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| PetoKraus | this is bullshite really | Jan 21 18:19 |
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| PetoKraus | not one sane app | Jan 21 18:19 |
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| PetoKraus | with reasonable periodic table | Jan 21 18:20 |
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| PetoKraus | !!! how am i supposed to work?!? | Jan 21 18:20 |
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| trmanco | microsoft bribed again http://searchengineland.com/microsoft... | Jan 21 18:20 |
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| trmanco | bribes * | Jan 21 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | Computer virus hits fire service < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glas... > | Jan 21 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Strathclyde Fire and Rescue has said its IT network has "come under attack from a computer virus"." | Jan 21 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | Let house burn down when Mr. Bobby cleans up Registry and reinstalls the O/S. | Jan 21 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: wine? | Jan 21 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | Although I'm sure there's stuff you miss. Linux has many good scientific apps | Jan 21 18:24 |
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| trmanco | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor-M... | Jan 21 18:43 |
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| trmanco | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Open-Sourc... | Jan 21 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | Had Microsoft not "f* killed" everything in industry, maybe there would be trust in AZUNE[sic] | Jan 21 18:48 |
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| MinceR | King Azoun V? | Jan 21 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | No king, usher... | Jan 21 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | "Apple reportedly faces a review by US regulators to ensure investors weren’t misled by the firm’s disclosure regarding boss Steve Jobs’ health problems." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... | Jan 21 19:01 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, did you do this? -> http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uplo... | Jan 21 19:03 |
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| trmanco | I wish I new Russian | Jan 21 19:08 |
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| trmanco | knew* | Jan 21 19:08 |
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| trmanco | http://spo.cnews.ru/news/top/index.sht... | Jan 21 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | Russian? | Jan 21 19:08 |
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| trmanco | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/0... | Jan 21 19:09 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, old news. | Jan 21 19:09 |
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| trmanco | lets go to googly | Jan 21 19:09 |
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| trmanco | and translate the text | Jan 21 19:09 |
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| schestowitz | I bet the Microsoft Mafia is already 'lobbying' the Russian diplomats behind the scenes.. maybe an EDGI | Jan 21 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | The Microsoft Mafia makes the Russian one look like puppies. | Jan 21 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20... | Jan 21 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | Don Ballmerski wants to "f*kill* Google by corrupting politicians. His wife too put money in Obama's pocket last month. | Jan 21 19:12 |
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| trmanco | Microsoft to *try* and destroy Google? | Jan 21 19:12 |
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| trmanco | let me laugh | Jan 21 19:12 |
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| trmanco | they are going to use their stupid *monopolist powers* and get them selves sued again in the EU | Jan 21 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | They bark at the EU commission | Jan 21 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | They smear Neelie for example. | Jan 21 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | Failing that, maybe they'll send the special forces to 'liberate' Europe | Jan 21 19:14 |
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| trmanco | why does AT&T fear Google? | Jan 21 19:15 |
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| trmanco | I don't get their fear | Jan 21 19:15 |
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| schestowitz | Net control | Jan 21 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | AT&T is presidential scum.. like Haliburton. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/0... | Jan 21 19:17 |
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| trmanco | I get it now | Jan 21 19:19 |
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| trmanco | thanks | Jan 21 19:19 |
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| schestowitz | We've just made FP of Linux Today again.. | Jan 21 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | The Analysts Cartel series is very popular | Jan 21 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | I have better ones coming up :-) | Jan 21 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | Ralph Novell... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVXs9cQnyNw Keeps creeping into YouTube... I track Novell videos.. | Jan 21 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | More MS BS: https://fossbazaar.org/content/lawrence... | Jan 21 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | Wow! Intel boss Otellini warns of first loss in 21 years < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/... >. EVEN sheer crime did not save him. | Jan 21 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | Hollywood, aka AmericanDream(R), feels the pinch too: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technology... (Time Warner's Warner Bros. cuts nearly 800 jobs) | Jan 21 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | "MANDERINS of the Glorious People's Republic of China are concerned that more adolescents are coming down with an addiction to the World Wide Wibble." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... > | Jan 21 19:30 |
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| jose__ | schestowitz, from this morning http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2... | Jan 21 19:33 |
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| jose__ | i'd really like the new white house to do the right thing and push for foss | Jan 21 19:34 |
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| trmanco | http://arstechnica.com/news... | Jan 21 19:35 |
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| trmanco | Microsoft Sells Off Comcast Stake : http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/o... | Jan 21 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: I hope so | Jan 21 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft will be able to come in and twit "we're open source too" | Jan 21 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: thanks, seen it. | Jan 21 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | I wrote about Comcastsoft | Jan 21 19:45 |
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| jose__ | yeah, i'm watching the video (stomach churns) of some msft dev guy talking to foss guys.. see lt frontpage | Jan 21 19:46 |
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| schestowitz | They are throttling some more now, breaking the law | Jan 21 19:46 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: I put it here in IRC a moment before you came | Jan 21 19:46 |
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| jose__ | "interop" is future, everyone has proprietary and foss/mixed; we have sinned in past; ... | Jan 21 19:46 |
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| MinceR | so who will quote "open source is an intellectual property destroyer, blah blah blah" for them when they say that? :> | Jan 21 19:47 |
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| trmanco | http://www.istockanalyst.com/art... | Jan 21 19:48 |
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| jose__ | we have sinned.. to forgive is divine.. blah | Jan 21 19:48 |
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| jose__ | one comment reminded me of something... | Jan 21 19:50 |
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| jose__ | only speak good about microsoft.. how? | Jan 21 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: no worries | Jan 21 19:50 |
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| jose__ | by having speakers that "don't have information" on wrongdoing details | Jan 21 19:50 |
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| jose__ | no comment | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | I have enough antitrust maaterial to show people what Mcirosoft really is | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | I'm doing a 2006 smoking gun right now | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | These are gangsters | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Anti-Linux team | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: calssic that | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| jose__ | why does microsoft bother to put on the guise? | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| jose__ | desperation | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Like sending non-technical people to OOXML meetups | Jan 21 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | "OOXML sucks..." | Jan 21 19:52 |
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| jose__ | allchin .. scox.. etc, right? | Jan 21 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | MS rep: "I don't understand... look.. it's a nice pile of paper, no? Look at the page layout." | Jan 21 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: no, something newer | Jan 21 19:52 |
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| jose__ | i wonder if/when/ and how many plants microsoft takes to their foss confrontations (speakers probably don't know) | Jan 21 19:54 |
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| jose__ | hey, that foss guy thinks this.... and that.... | Jan 21 19:55 |
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| jose__ | actually, people that give microsoft the time of day likely have "job and $$" on their minds | Jan 21 19:56 |
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| jose__ | [obviously i'm generalizing, btw] | Jan 21 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: wait until the next post | Jan 21 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | I can't counter their punch bags, aka Straw men | Jan 21 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | They put lackeys like Ramji to avoid having those who know the truth confront the criminals directly. | Jan 21 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | E.g. Gates, Ballmer, Allchin, Sinofsky, Silverberg.. | Jan 21 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | The least *I* (and *we*) can do is show people their crimes | Jan 21 20:02 |
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| *Tallken has quit (Client Quit) | Jan 21 20:03 |
| jose__ | roy, btw, that gnome to mono progression graphic was clever | Jan 21 20:17 |
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| jose__ | hope it's not true though | Jan 21 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | *ping* tessier | Jan 21 20:22 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: it's not true because of pressure | Jan 21 20:22 |
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| schestowitz | Had there not been awareness, it probably would slip in as a dep | Jan 21 20:22 |
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| jose__ | it's still clever | Jan 21 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 21 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | I thought about it last nigth while in IRC | Jan 21 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | You'll see the log tomorrow if you're curious | Jan 21 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: tell me when to post about API patents | Jan 21 20:52 |
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| jose__ | first i'll write up an intro | Jan 21 20:54 |
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| jose__ | there are some items to cover.. like who am i and why am i writing this | Jan 21 20:54 |
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| jose__ | who can do this.. and mention some ms specifics maybe..including sample of their patents | Jan 21 20:54 |
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| jose__ | also, i may rewrite the other two slightly to add continuity/fluidity among the various parts | Jan 21 20:55 |
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| jose__ | i won't add much but i do want to add some things | Jan 21 20:56 |
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| jose__ | again: if i don't get back to you, just link up or post whatever you like | Jan 21 20:56 |
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| jose__ | say.. within a week. | Jan 21 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | You have lots to resue | Jan 21 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | *reuse | Jan 21 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 21 20:57 |
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| balzac_ | Hello again Roy | Jan 21 21:10 |
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| balzac_ | In case you didn't know, I'm Paul Gaskin, you sometimes see my comments on boycottnovell.com | Jan 21 21:11 |
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| balzac_ | I've also written a recent editorial on FreeSoftwareMagazine.com, and I also comment and post as Balzac on FSDaily.com | Jan 21 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.osnews.com/thread?344655 "Barack Obama is a con-artist, much like Miguel De Icaza and the rest of the Novell team, and shouldnt be president. gNewSense is my distro not OpenSellout Linux or Red Nap." | Jan 21 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | balzac: Oh, I seee....... | Jan 21 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I knew you wrote in FSM | Jan 21 21:12 |
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| balzac_ | schestowitz: whose quote is that from OSnews? | Jan 21 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | Follow the links | Jan 21 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | It came up in Google News. | Jan 21 21:12 |
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| balzac_ | I got an error retrieving the story the response was to | Jan 21 21:13 |
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| balzac_ | I just wondered who wrote the original bit about Barack and Miguel | Jan 21 21:14 |
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| balzac_ | BTW, did you see how much the show-cased the Microsoft image processing technology on CNN? | Jan 21 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | Probably some JoeAnonymous | Jan 21 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | I read about that.. the image stuff.. they use it like a football match | Jan 21 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't watch the 'match' not just because of resentment though; President... brought to you by {company list} , we'll be back after a word from our sponsor | Jan 21 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | I liked the post I saw somewhere about millions homeless in the US while Mr. Obama throws a $170 million bash. | Jan 21 21:17 |
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| balzac_ | I'm not concerned yet about Obama. I'm just hoping Eric Holder will go after Bush & Cheney on torture and constitutional violations. | Jan 21 21:18 |
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| balzac_ | The only advantage M$ has now is their exclusive relationships with hardware manufacturers. | Jan 21 21:19 |
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| balzac_ | Obama can't possibly be more friendly to M$ than Bush was. | Jan 21 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | I now remember that it's you who defended RMS.. http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/po... | Jan 21 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | Who is Obama? | Jan 21 21:20 |
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| balzac_ | yeah, I felt it was important to call out Linus Torvalds on that particularly sneaky attack on RMS> | Jan 21 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Why is it that people characterse the new govt as one man that the PR industry groomed? | Jan 21 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Obama is like the stick shift in a car | Jan 21 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | The engine does a lot more, but it's not visible. | Jan 21 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | I'm going to puke watching Novell news... | Jan 21 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Missiahcaza is all over with the news of him and his MS buddies 'saving' the 'poor' Linux users who the "president doesn't give a c* about" | Jan 21 21:22 |
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| balzac_ | I just don't care much anymore. I'll keep pressuring for Bush's prosecution. I'll keep pressuring for decriminalization of prostitution, drugs, mandate free software for public institutions, etc. | Jan 21 21:25 |
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| balzac_ | I'm just tired of spinning my wheels, so I'll throw out my opinions, but nowadays I'm wondering how I can get my slice of the pie (in accordance with my principles and ethics). | Jan 21 21:26 |
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| balzac_ | I'm mean I'm not going to stop sharing my opinions in the public forums, but I'm not going to let it consume me while by bank account is collecting dust and cobwebs. | Jan 21 21:27 |
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| balzac_ | I think that's whats missing from the GNU scene - ambitious entrepreneurs who want to go forth under a strictly free software approach, not mixed source. | Jan 21 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | But wait.. | Jan 21 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | The way the system is constructed is to reward for obedience. | Jan 21 21:28 |
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| balzac_ | Yeah, but there are ways around it. | Jan 21 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | IOW, those who are tolls are allowed to make a living and a few cheaters mange to become exploiter (it helps when dad, for example, is a well-known Seattle lawyer with Abramoff connection) | Jan 21 21:29 |
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| balzac_ | Roy, with your industry knowledge, you ought to be a very highly compensated consultant in addition to being a free software advocate and M$ whistle-blower. | Jan 21 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | *tolls->tools | Jan 21 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | balzac: I was offered jobs, but that would reduce my output | Jan 21 21:29 |
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| balzac_ | You can do good and do well at the same time. | Jan 21 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | Nice proverb | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | But that implies that doing well means making wealth | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| balzac_ | Right, well I value your work on boycottnovell very highly. | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | I'll carry on for quite some time | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| balzac_ | I won't be quitting either | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | There are fallbacks. Shane for example would carry on if I lose steam. | Jan 21 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | I set up a Wiki where others are helping | Jan 21 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | So we can process evidence of crime more rapidly | Jan 21 21:31 |
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| balzac_ | Let me tell you, if you weren't doing what you do, there'd be a lot more ignorance of Microsoft's strategy to rip us all off. | Jan 21 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | Watch tomorrow's dynamite | Jan 21 21:31 |
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| balzac_ | They're trying to subjugate us all to their new patent taxation scheme. | Jan 21 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft.. yes. | Jan 21 21:32 |
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| balzac_ | But I think others should perhaps take up more of the slack of blowing the cover of M$, and you possibly ought to be looking at brokering big software deals. | Jan 21 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | But they tell other stories. | Jan 21 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | "We changed" | Jan 21 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | "Ballmer is just the bad cop" | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | "Gates is charitable" | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | etc etc | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, since you mention occupation, I'd rather do research, not consulting | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't do a PhD to just walk around in a suit and pretend to know stuff. | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| balzac_ | The way I see it, I'm pushing RedHat as opposed to Novell for the enterprise OS. RH enterprise is mixed source, but it's good to work against Novell and make money on commission for an enterprise RedHat deployment. | Jan 21 21:33 |
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| balzac_ | ok | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | I'm pretty quualified at digesting input and then producing summaries | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| balzac_ | well, you are uniquely qualified for consulting as well as research. | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat can be replaces with centos | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | There's sturation in many industries | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| balzac_ | Yeah but you need that big corporate support backing up the deployment | Jan 21 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | I don't want to drop names, but some people whom I speak to present themselves as consultant but get very little business | Jan 21 21:35 |
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| balzac_ | The point is to take market-share from Novell and profit from doing it. | Jan 21 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Same in every sector... waiters, reporters... | Jan 21 21:35 |
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| balzac_ | Microsoft/Novell deserves to fail, and those of us who work to bring that about deserve to benefit from it. | Jan 21 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | The ones gaining from what I do probably include Red Hat or Ubuntu, but I won't corrupt myself by talking to them | Jan 21 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Autonomy is better for my credibility | Jan 21 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | Look at PJ-IBM fabrications | Jan 21 21:36 |
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| balzac_ | Well, I'm working as a developer, but I'm not under-selling myself because I think I'm a great consultant for helping the enterprise make the right choices for big software deployments. | Jan 21 21:36 |
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| balzac_ | Well, your credibility is not in doubt among those who know. | Jan 21 21:36 |
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| balzac_ | You've presented so many scoops. | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| balzac_ | I'm not a RedHat guy, per se, but I'm ready to push RedHat at the expense of Novell. | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| balzac_ | Anyway, that's my two cents for now. | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | Just RHAT? | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| balzac_ | I need to get back to work bro. | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | RHT | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| balzac_ | Ubuntu as well | Jan 21 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | IBM wants to prevent Red Hat from being powerful | Jan 21 21:38 |
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| balzac_ | ultimately, gnewsense is what I'm looking to run for myself | Jan 21 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | IBM is its own pile of rubbish but for other reasons | Jan 21 21:38 |
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| balzac_ | Lack of common sense is the reason | Jan 21 21:40 |
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| balzac_ | That's why I feel I could make a killing with just a little help from my friends and an angel investor. | Jan 21 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | There's hope for Change | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | The US, as much as I fear, is going down | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | I have lots of family there, so I'm not anti-America | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Their government is an embarrassment though | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| balzac_ | Anyway, I'm taking one step at a time, because with or without the support from any investor, I'm committed to demonstrating the profitability of 100% free software. | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | People in the US are loathed for Cheney's dreams of grandeur and oil | Jan 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | And this has gone on since WW2 really.. occupation and suppression in foreign affairs | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Issue is.... | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | If the US goes down, EU will suffer too | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | This leaves China.. | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| balzac_ | roy, there's definitely trouble ahead, but all I can do for social causes now is to cheer-lead prosecution for Bush and cronies, while focusing on financial success for myself. | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | And China is WORSE | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| balzac_ | This trouble ahead could be very good for free software. | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| balzac_ | Look at the upside of things. | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | balzac: prosecution will be good for the US | Jan 21 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Like street demonstration vs war | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| balzac_ | Microsoft could be due for a major enron-style accounting collapse ala Enron | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | EU residents will say, "look, Americans don't actually support the war crimes" | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | Moreover, they manage to get past the media blitz/propaganda, which is HARD | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| balzac_ | the scoops you've published on Microsoft's financial troubles are very juicy. | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| balzac_ | brb | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | ok | Jan 21 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | Re: The Enron thing; I heard from journalists, but they are still too afraid to publish about it (libel risk... and Microsoft is a litigious bully) | Jan 21 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?... "It is well known that MS pays for such things as shelf space and shelf advertising etc. If a company is actually making money to have thousands of units in stock sit on the shelf for a while that will eventually sell then they will do so." | Jan 21 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | I'm tempted now to post my next smoking gun prematurely | Jan 21 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?l... "Why does he have to belittle people below him. Granted I would not want to be a tester, but I am grateful for the job they do. Linus should take note of Obama and show a little humility | Jan 21 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Linus gets what he deserves in these comments: http://linuxtoday.com/news_sto... | Jan 21 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://apcmag.com/linus_torvalds... ' Want to know what happens if you suggest a way to fix Linux that might solve a major difficulty, but also introduce new problems? To quote Linus Torvalds: " I laugh in your face!"' | Jan 21 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | Idiot. First the "masturbating monkeys", not this.... what is this guy doing? He's more of a "PR disaster" than some people label RMS... | Jan 21 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Adding Wbar, Prism, and Gadgets to Ubuntu < http://www.deviceguru.com/adding-wbar-p... > | Jan 21 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | "That quote is bound to bring out the naysayers - and rightfully so since it contradicts McNealy's "free like a puppy" perspective - but the idea that government institutions could reduce costs by collaborating and building on reference implementations is a more convincing argument." http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/01/... | Jan 21 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | "free like a puppy..." | Jan 21 22:14 |
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| trmanco | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/61133/... | Jan 21 22:14 |
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| trmanco | uh oh! | Jan 21 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Eee | Jan 21 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | The author is being silly | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft for the first time is contributing code to an Apache open-source project, continuing the company's softening of its attitude toward open-source software and the community that supports it." | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | That's IDG/IDC | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | They have to play a along with Microsoft " softening of its attitude toward open-source " | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | Mind the dash | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | open-source... not Open Source | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | Not Free software | Jan 21 22:15 |
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| PetoKraus | Roy | Jan 21 22:25 |
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| PetoKraus | good post | Jan 21 22:25 |
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| PetoKraus | about the virus at sheffield | Jan 21 22:25 |
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| PetoKraus | it made a nice touch to already pretty funny day | Jan 21 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Was it funny. Heh. I though it was bound to sound grumpy. | Jan 21 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | Mozilla is harvesting.. Mozilla Collects User Data for Usability Testing < Mozilla Collects User Data for Usability Testing > | Jan 21 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | OOps. URL: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/21/m... | Jan 21 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... "Microsoft decision to kill its flagship $1bn investment in US cable-TV giant Comcast is a sign of strategic prioritization and financial necessity." | Jan 21 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* "Microsoft software doesn't get released - it escapes, leaving a trail of destruction behind it." | Jan 21 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/hp-mini-... "Though a Linux OS has been announced, so far all we've seen are options for XP and Vista materialize, but we'll keep our eyes peeled." | Jan 21 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | "Kudos to my MP, Martin Linton, who has resigned as PPS to Lord Falconer over the FOI issue. Just received letter from him about expenses." http://twitter.com/glynmoody/s... | Jan 21 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Wow!! | Jan 21 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | 3 Microsoft Vice Presidents are QUITTING | Jan 21 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft is crumbling from the inside. | Jan 21 23:39 |
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