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| twitter | he he, a fun comment from 2007 about M$ DRM, http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?s... | Jan 31 19:15 |
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| schestowitz | There might be another Digg FP on the way: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bill_Gates_on_Li... | Jan 31 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | brb | Jan 31 20:05 |
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| *flyback parents house is getting water from ice backed up ice in the gutters melting around the sewer drain in the roof and running into the house | Jan 31 20:16 |
| *flyback ponders what he could cheaply rig up from home depot to keep pumping | Jan 31 20:17 |
| *schestowitz thinks it must be global warming :-) | Jan 31 20:17 |
| flyback | nope | Jan 31 20:18 |
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| flyback | just old 40's house and roof | Jan 31 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | Better than caves and cabins. | Jan 31 20:18 |
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| flyback | not really | Jan 31 20:18 |
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| flyback | dad was away in hondoas on missions so mom had to mop up | Jan 31 20:18 |
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| flyback | and he has shoulder replaced and the other gutted | Jan 31 20:19 |
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| flyback | so he can't do much either | Jan 31 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | Sorry to hear that. | Jan 31 20:23 |
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| _doug | ping ... | Jan 31 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | Jan 31 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Don't hammer on the site unless you have to | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Use cache | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| _doug | is BN down ? | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | No | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | It responds | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | But it's slow | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| _doug | This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| _doug | Sorry for the inconvenience. | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| _doug | Net-Prophets.com | Jan 31 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Ouch | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | Wait | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | It's Digg effect | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| _doug | aaah ... | Jan 31 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | What do you suggest? | Jan 31 20:34 |
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| _doug | move to a different server .. | Jan 31 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | What server? | Jan 31 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's already the best hosting account, I think | Jan 31 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | It worked about 10 minutes ago | Jan 31 20:35 |
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| _doug | ibiblio .. | Jan 31 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | Would they accept us? | Jan 31 20:36 |
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| _doug | dunno, why not ask .. | Jan 31 20:36 |
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| _doug | http://ars.userfriendly.org/ca... | Jan 31 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | For a boyoctt site? | Jan 31 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | I doubt it | Jan 31 20:37 |
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| _doug | call it by a different name .. | Jan 31 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | Not simple | Jan 31 20:38 |
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| _doug | techfud.org | Jan 31 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | No.. | Jan 31 20:41 |
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| _doug | Tyrannical Elementary Crackhead Heralder of Fear and Utter Deviance .. :) | Jan 31 20:41 |
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| benJIman | Perhaps you should host it on windows server 2008 for better availability. | Jan 31 20:45 |
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| _doug | benJIman: why are you here ? | Jan 31 20:45 |
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| benJIman | I told you before I'm paid to watch this channel. | Jan 31 20:47 |
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| _doug | keep up the good work. | Jan 31 20:47 |
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| _doug | How is the Open SuSE project going ? | Jan 31 20:47 |
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| MinceR | benJIman: so having to reboot the server every few days counts as better availability over there? :> | Jan 31 20:47 |
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| _doug | benJIman ? | Jan 31 20:49 |
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| benJIman | That's a bit of a vague question. | Jan 31 20:50 |
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| _doug | Last new user joined in July 2008 .. | Jan 31 20:51 |
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| NZheretic | What has happened to the boycottnovell.com website? "This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties" | Jan 31 20:51 |
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| _doug | one member in the UK .. | Jan 31 20:53 |
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| _doug | BN: The hosting service is experiencing difficulties | Jan 31 20:53 |
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| benJIman | _doug: User of what? | Jan 31 20:54 |
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| _doug | the OpenSuSE forum .. | Jan 31 20:54 |
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| benJIman | Oh. | Jan 31 20:55 |
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| _doug | http://forums.opensuse.org/m... | Jan 31 20:55 |
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| benJIman | It's full of failure, like most web fora. | Jan 31 20:55 |
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| _doug | Would Novell consider hosting the BN site ? | Jan 31 20:55 |
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| PetoKraus | notfun | Jan 31 20:56 |
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| benJIman | They can't even host community openSUSE stuff for legal reasons. | Jan 31 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | NZheretic: we got too much load | Jan 31 20:56 |
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| _doug | "The openSUSE Forums have 20663 (+521) registered users .." | Jan 31 20:56 |
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| _doug | t community openSUSE" | Jan 31 20:57 |
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| _doug | can't host opensuse, why not ? | Jan 31 20:57 |
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| _doug | what legal reasons? | Jan 31 20:58 |
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| _doug | ping benJIman, what does the manual have to say on Novell not being able to host openSuSE stuff ? | Jan 31 21:03 |
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| benJIman | ? | Jan 31 21:04 |
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| benJIman | They can't host some openSUSE projects because they don't have control over them. | Jan 31 21:04 |
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| benJIman | e.g. if they contribute to or actually do infringe patents. | Jan 31 21:04 |
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| benJIman | Like ffmpeg packages, or links to ffmpeg packages. | Jan 31 21:04 |
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| benJIman | Or nvidia drivers that infringe the GPL etc. | Jan 31 21:05 |
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| _doug | is there a position paper from Novell on that matter ? | Jan 31 21:06 |
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| benJIman | I'm not sure what you mean. | Jan 31 21:06 |
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| benJIman | They have stated they will not host things that they know infringe on software patents or the GPL. | Jan 31 21:06 |
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| _doug | I thought Novell distributed openSuSE, including ffmpeg, so where's the risk? | Jan 31 21:07 |
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| benJIman | They don't distribute ffmpeg no. | Jan 31 21:07 |
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| benJIman | They don't distribute the nvidia drivers. | Jan 31 21:07 |
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| benJIman | They don't distribute mplayer. | Jan 31 21:07 |
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| benJIman | etc. | Jan 31 21:07 |
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| _doug | software.opensuse.org, Registrant Organization: Novell Inc... | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| benJIman | And? | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| _doug | last I recall they came on the disk or from the update site ? | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| benJIman | Nope | Jan 31 21:09 |
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| _doug | download.opensuse.org, registrant organization: Novell Inc. | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| MinceR | these opensuse guys must be really confident of their work if they recommend windows instead :> | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | benJIman: how about those layoffs? I hope the Linux part of not affected? | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| benJIman | schestowitz: I noticed your headline was an order of magnitude out. | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | Can Ronald be sacked then? | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | benJIman: no. | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | 25% | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| benJIman | schestowitz: 100 not 1000. | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | Novell has 400 employees? | Jan 31 21:11 |
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| benJIman | The 25% was not accurate. | Jan 31 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | What's accurate? | Jan 31 21:11 |
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| benJIman | 3%. | Jan 31 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Source? | Jan 31 21:12 |
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| benJIman | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?comm... and the article you linked after update. | Jan 31 21:12 |
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| benJIman | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13... | Jan 31 21:12 |
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| GoblinRFD | Hi Roy. Everything ok? Your site appears to be down. | Jan 31 21:15 |
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| benJIman | Why don't you put the status in the topic so people don't have to keep asking. | Jan 31 21:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | Sorry. Just got here! | Jan 31 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: yes, Digg+LT effect | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | It was actually responding (barely) just before it needed to be isolated | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | :( | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | :-( | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahh | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | Roy are u on twitter? | Jan 31 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | could be worse.. http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Jan 31 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | Been down for almost a week cause DNS doesn't point there | Jan 31 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | She could get deindexed for it | Jan 31 21:18 |
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| PetoKraus | deindexed? | Jan 31 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | And Groklaw works privately: http://www.groklaw.net/article.p... | Jan 31 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | The more important the news, the more likely you are to go down | Jan 31 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | It's annonying, but hey, what can you do? | Jan 31 21:20 |
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| PetoKraus | that'd explain why my server runs so well | Jan 31 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | What would? | Jan 31 21:23 |
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| PetoKraus | <schestowitz> The more important the news, the more likely you are to go down | Jan 31 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | Oh | Jan 31 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | Well, I got some E-mails about it | Jan 31 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | Many Linux sites/people link to it | Jan 31 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | But now they'll get an ugly page | Jan 31 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | You pull the server back up and get back where you started... it crawls. | Jan 31 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | So the account is set aside. I needed to apologise to the host when it happened last year | Jan 31 21:25 |
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| PetoKraus | bwah | Jan 31 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | It's annoying but I can't do anything. If I could, I would | Jan 31 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | I could put more pages on cache | Jan 31 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | But this endured Digg and Slashdot before, so I was hopeful. Another FP was on the way but not it spews out an error, so it won't make it | Jan 31 21:27 |
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| _doug | gtg ... | Jan 31 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/con... | Jan 31 21:39 |
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| GoblinRFD | Quote of the day: | Jan 31 21:39 |
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| GoblinRFD | "I am sorry you don't see using Windows Vista a gift millions of users world wide are benefiting from. :)" - Andre Da Costa - Twitter | Jan 31 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls are, as usual, using downtime to make false accusations | Jan 31 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | "Roy, I couldn't help but notice the below appended post. I followed the link and did some research, now has your URL as a GoDaddy parked site. Is boycottnovell down for good? Word "suspended in the "net-prophets.com" URL doesn't reflect good. " | Jan 31 21:40 |
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| GoblinRFD | RE: Link - Yeah Ive been discussing this elsewhere. MS will love that. | Jan 31 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls in USENET deceive people now | Jan 31 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | "OP was apparently Gary who used a comment spamming open proxy from Germany to crosspost to: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.2600, microsoft.public.security.homeusers and 24hoursupport.helpdesk. " | Jan 31 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | ANyway... It'll be back soon. | Jan 31 21:41 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah over on MS watch they take to impersonating handles to cause confusion | Jan 31 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | We had too much traffic (like half a million hits in hours) | Jan 31 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know why Coral didn't take it | Jan 31 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe we got hit elsewhere | Jan 31 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Because the server stablised when I got back from the gym | Jan 31 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Then it slowed down again, someone told me too, but it was still there. | Jan 31 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Andre Da Costa is still patting a dino | Jan 31 21:42 |
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| GoblinRFD | Chips over on MS watch managing to find a link to Andre Da Costa and pictures of the laptop he was allegedly given by Microsoft. http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.skydrive.live.co... | Jan 31 21:43 |
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| GoblinRFD | look at him, all smiles..Im not surprised he supports Microsoft, poor lad is probably after more free gifts. | Jan 31 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. | Jan 31 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Is this him? http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.skydrive... | Jan 31 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Shilboy? | Jan 31 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Expertise: copy&paste MS press releases | Jan 31 21:45 |
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| GoblinRFD | probably, but then if the allegation is true, what does it say about Microsoft. Target an impressionable lad in a poor country, send him a gift (which he probably wouldnt be able to afford) and then sit back and watch him promote your products in the hope of getting more. Sounds like $6000 well spent. | Jan 31 21:46 |
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| GoblinRFD | and if its true, is probably one of the lowest acts Microsoft has ever done. | Jan 31 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | That's Microsoft. | Jan 31 21:47 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : Just open that last jpeg in gimp and increase the brightness | Jan 31 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | Here's use of "Open Source" where it has nothing to do with it: http://www.americanprogress.org/is... | Jan 31 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | NZheretic: what's in there? | Jan 31 21:51 |
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| NZheretic | You can better see his face. | Jan 31 21:52 |
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| GoblinRFD | BBL - Gotta have a shower. | Jan 31 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | NZheretic: I'll do a post about it later | Jan 31 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I'll probably do suse links tomorrow when the server can return. | Jan 31 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | Also ODF newsletter | Jan 31 21:53 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : His face is on his profile page ( http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.profile.live.com/ ) so it is not big news. | Jan 31 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 31 21:56 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz: "Target an impressionable lad in a poor country, send him a gift..." , Microsoft equivalent of the Nigerian Scammers? | Jan 31 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: do you have some resources on this chap? | Jan 31 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Like sinlist? | Jan 31 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | \*LOL* | Jan 31 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Watch the "network" | Jan 31 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | MJ (Mary Jo Foley) | Jan 31 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Shills unite | Jan 31 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | There's another MS orgy in NetworkWorld (IDG). it's called Microsoft Subnet | Jan 31 21:58 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : You might want to double check the IP addresses he uses to see if is actually in Jamaica W.I. | Jan 31 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | IDG give them a whole section of the site where Ashley recruits 'shills' to post blog items that glorify MS | Jan 31 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://cid-86589e2f0e686252.profile.live.com/ | Jan 31 21:59 |
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| NZheretic | http://www.upstartblogger.com/free-mac-... | Jan 31 22:06 |
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| NZheretic | Andre Da Costa May 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm | Jan 31 22:06 |
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| NZheretic | 'am begging please let me win this MacBook Air, I am desperate for a laptop like this." | Jan 31 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jan 31 22:07 |
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| Ziggy1 | the site is down | Jan 31 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | YEs | Jan 31 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | I was laughing at something else | Jan 31 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | The site will be back later when the ghosts are gone | Jan 31 22:08 |
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| Ziggy1 | lol | Jan 31 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | Page requests | Jan 31 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | It has been bad since 4pm | Jan 31 22:09 |
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| Ziggy1 | what's the time now | Jan 31 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | I tried to load it up at a hotel earlier, but it took minutes and no stylesheet either | Jan 31 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | 10pm | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| Ziggy1 | oh, ok | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Shane and I upgraded the hosting account | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | It doesn't help unless it's a cluster though | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Which I tried using in Coral | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| Ziggy1 | oh, ok, have you ever heard of godaddy? | Jan 31 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, why? | Jan 31 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | We're on another host. | Jan 31 22:11 |
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| Ziggy1 | That's who I use, there service is very good | Jan 31 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | I hope PJ will be back to delivering Truth soon. No-one covers SCO, so MOG can muddy the water. Maureen O'Gara writes about he beloved SCO doubling the prices for quicker death.. http://opensource.sys-con.com/node/825407 (SCO Hikes Prices) | Jan 31 22:30 |
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| Roy_B2 | Still on sys-con even after they allegedly banished her, eh? | Jan 31 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | The fruadsters from Gartners vs FOSS again... http://www.baselinemag.com/c/a/Linux-and-Ope... | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Microsoft will 'employ' them soon to compensate for the FOSS FUD they had granted | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| Roy_B2 | Tacky site, that sys-con. Popped up an ad which blocked me from reading the article. | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Roy_B2: MOG seems to be the main person running that place | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | She did this anonymously for a while | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| Roy_B2 | Problems with boycottnovell.com? | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | I actually found out it was her after her 'supporter' Bill Beebe snitched about her pseudonym | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| Roy_B2 | It shows "http://net-prophets.c..." | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | This reached Groklaw through me.. | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Roy_B2: yes, Digg effect | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | And others.. | Jan 31 22:35 |
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| Roy_B2 | I never knew it was actually a subdirectory of this "http://net-prophets.com/" ... | Jan 31 22:36 |
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| Roy_B2 | What does "con" is "sys-con" stand for anyway? ;) | Jan 31 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | Roy_B2: it's not a subdir | Jan 31 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | There's a redirect now | Jan 31 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | It's on /home/boycottn/public_html/ | Jan 31 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, it turns out the report about 25% of Novell employees getting the pink slip is incorrect (bad sources). I need to correct it tomorrow | Jan 31 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | DOD launches site to develop open-source software http://fcw.com/articles/2009/01/30/dod-lau... | Jan 31 22:38 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ah...What was the correct Novell figure? | Jan 31 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | 3% | Jan 31 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | They'll need to fire more though, in due time | Jan 31 22:40 |
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| GoblinRFD | I wonder if thats the 3% that sponsor mono | Jan 31 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 31 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | No, these are the key people | Jan 31 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | They weave together Nov and Soft | Jan 31 22:44 |
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| GoblinRFD | oh well it definately wont be mono | Jan 31 22:44 |
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| GoblinRFD | Mono is about as popular as a horny dog in a Ms Lovely Legs competition. | Jan 31 22:44 |
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| GoblinRFD | Src: Modified from a saying by Arnold J Rimmer. | Jan 31 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | Or Ubuntu Edgy in 2009. | Jan 31 22:46 |
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| GoblinRFD | :) | Jan 31 22:46 |
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| GoblinRFD | Andres appeal for a Macbook is now up on Microsoft Watch. | Jan 31 22:47 |
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| GoblinRFD | I dont think Microsoft will be too impressed. | Jan 31 22:47 |
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| Roy_B2 | Another O'Gara story: Microsoft-Yahoo: Bartz to Ballmer: 'Don't Hold Your Breath' <http://search.sys-con.com/node/825084> | Jan 31 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | Here's what destroying the US: http://www.prwatch.org/node/8174 ('lobbyists') | Jan 31 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | Roy_B2: she also called Bartz a bitch | Jan 31 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | I wouldn't feed here anyway | Jan 31 22:48 |
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| GoblinRFD | I could be wrong.... | Jan 31 22:48 |
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| GoblinRFD | but she does look hot. | Jan 31 22:48 |
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| Roy_B2 | Sounds like projection to me ... | Jan 31 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: who? | Jan 31 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Bartz? | Jan 31 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Or that MOG mug from the 1970s or whatever? | Jan 31 22:49 |
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| GoblinRFD | On the above link... | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | As doug says, "she's growing younger" | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | however Ive just googled her.... | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ill retract the hot comment | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | and say in my defence that shes got sun glasses on in the photo above. | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | and im tired | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | sorry. | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| GoblinRFD | *Goblin hangs his head in shame | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=m... | Jan 31 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | She's not the 1980s figure | Jan 31 22:51 |
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| GoblinRFD | ah | Jan 31 22:51 |
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| GoblinRFD | Thats ok then! | Jan 31 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Look.. we're in page 1 there... with MccBride's picture assigned to his shillGara | Jan 31 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8168 "An exploiter. A scoundrel. A world historical mother******* son of a bitch. (sorry grandma)." | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | "... A couple of years ago I demanded he stop his work. Close down his company or I would sever our relationship." | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Some criminals are truly running the US" | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Criminals in suits | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Even HIS SON is blasting him | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Calling him "mother******* son of a bitch" | Jan 31 22:53 |
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| Roy_B2 | Nice: "... perfected the art of setting up non-profit "charitable" groups to advance corporate interests." | Jan 31 22:55 |
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| Roy_B2 | Sounds "innovative", at least? ;) | Jan 31 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | No, BillG predates it :-) | Jan 31 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | More news on him here: http://www.prwatch.org/node/8177 | Jan 31 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | What does it take to have people like these put in prison? Also Carl Icahn, Nathan Myhrvold, etc. Isn't there a some law that separates them from society or something? | Jan 31 22:58 |
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| PetoKraus | hm | Jan 31 23:01 |
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| PetoKraus | the tenenbaum case is interesting | Jan 31 23:01 |
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| PetoKraus | at least. | Jan 31 23:01 |
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| Roy_B2 | On Myrhvold: I remember him from the older days. He was Bill G.'s "right hand man" and he was portrayed in the media as a sort of benign "mad scientist" character. But then I thought, "If he has all these brilliant ideas, then why does Microsoft ever pro | Jan 31 23:05 |
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| Roy_B2 | duce anything birlliant?" | Jan 31 23:05 |
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| Roy_B2 | *don't | Jan 31 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | See the mails in BN | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | He promoted vapourware | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | Explicily | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | The guy is a little devil, not a mad scientist | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | I have many Comes exhibits on him coming | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| Roy_B2 | Of course. Those were the days before the US v. Microsoft case. | Jan 31 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | "right hand man" means something else. | Jan 31 23:08 |
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| Roy_B2 | My point was that even then, something didn't quite add up. | Jan 31 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | BillG with the brainfarts, Nathanm with the wank... and then there's Martin Taylor which is the second evil half of of SteveB | Jan 31 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | There's a control mania there which leads them to genuinely think that they fight all those "unAmerican companies" | Jan 31 23:09 |
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| Roy_B2 | Such as IBM? | Jan 31 23:10 |
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| *Tallken has quit (Client Quit) | Jan 31 23:10 |
| schestowitz | But it verge the insane..one guy, well... Rocking back and forth on a chair while Ballmer flings these bits of furniture. | Jan 31 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | IBM helped the Nazis | Jan 31 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | But IBM is a country of its own | Jan 31 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft too is an international political movement | Jan 31 23:10 |
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| Roy_B2 | There's some pushback even in the States now. | Jan 31 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | I'm not sure | Jan 31 23:11 |
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| Roy_B2 | i.e. a Congressman who asked how many Americans Microsoft will lay off vs. how many overseas workers | Jan 31 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | Roy_B2: I am very concerned about the US | Jan 31 23:11 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: what's the comes trial about, basically? | Jan 31 23:11 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm trying to catch up | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| PetoKraus | i didn't pay attention for last few months | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | I think it's a greater risk to world peace than all other countries combined... much like military scale | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | And Obama can't change this | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | He's just a front man to a Big Machine | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | As for IBM and Microsoft, they are bigger and more powerful than the federal government | Jan 31 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | In fact, if you were to draw levels of authority | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Then you'd have a huge blob for companies like GM and GE that control the media even... then you'd have other companies in this cloud | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | The government is like their 'front desk' | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | It's the shadow they cast upon the public to complain to | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Being an illusion, the public sees it different | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | We imagine a big powerfgul government that's symbolic of or analogous to limitary | Jan 31 23:14 |
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| Ziggy1 | schestowitz: I think that Obama is our best chance ATM at restoring order in the US government | Jan 31 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | And all those troops are supposedly there to defend us from those nice companies that are trying to give us money (wages) and polices by the government | Jan 31 23:14 |
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| Roy_B2 | Obama seems pretty shrewd and loathe to be adverserial. | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | In reality, however, the government is polices by the coprorations in countries like the US | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | UK too | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | *policed | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| Ziggy1 | it won't change overnight but it will happen | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | Im just about to give Jackalope 9.04 daily build a test run....so ill be off soon | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy1: Nader is | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | take care all....back later | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy1: even Ron Paul seemed decent | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | He called it like it is | Jan 31 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: cyea l8r | Jan 31 23:16 |
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| Ziggy1 | GoblinRFD: cya | Jan 31 23:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | take care all.....! - Smoke me a kipper, ill be back for breakfast. | Jan 31 23:16 |
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| *GoblinRFD has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Jan 31 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Obama will find that companies ensure *he* doesn't stand in their way | Jan 31 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | They did, after all, fund his campaign | Jan 31 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | He owes them | Jan 31 23:17 |
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| Ziggy1 | true | Jan 31 23:17 |
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| Roy_B2 | To a lesser extent than others. | Jan 31 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | What others | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Pail and McBush? | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | *Palin | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| Roy_B2 | Still, I doubt he has the mettle to make real "change you can believe in" | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I believe in it | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| Roy_B2 | McSame | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | But we don't all believe in the same thing | Jan 31 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | McShame | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| MinceR | Pail :D | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Typo | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| Ziggy1 | lol | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Pale | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Freudian, but no.. | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| MinceR | i prefer Pail (=bucket) | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | What's in it? | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| MinceR | dunno | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| MinceR | or perhaps Palin'? | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| Roy_B2 | Nothing? | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe she had a wild party | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| Roy_B2 | I guess she dreams of being the next Bush | Jan 31 23:20 |
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| Roy_B2 | The last one, frighteningly enough, showed what was possible. | Jan 31 23:20 |
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| MinceR | http://www.flickr.com/photos/adydas/... | Jan 31 23:21 |
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| Roy_B2 | That is, before him I would've considered her chances about nil. Now, I'm not so sure ... | Jan 31 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | She can't runa country | Jan 31 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | Powell said the same.. | Jan 31 23:22 |
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| Roy_B2 | You mean "ruin"? | Jan 31 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | *run a | Jan 31 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | Now even a county | Jan 31 23:23 |
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| Roy_B2 | I heard she's set up a fund-raising committee. | Jan 31 23:24 |
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| Roy_B2 | Picture of Alaska superimposed on the continental US. | Jan 31 23:24 |
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| Roy_B2 | Sounds "pale" to me ... | Jan 31 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Pah! | Jan 31 23:26 |
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| Roy_B2 | http://www.sarahpac.com/ | Jan 31 23:27 |
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| Roy_B2 | Complete with a picture of her in front of "real America" :) | Jan 31 23:28 |
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| Ziggy1 | anyway I'm off got to go shopping | Jan 31 23:29 |
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| Ziggy1 | c ya all | Jan 31 23:29 |
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| Roy_B2 | Ha, sounds familiar | Jan 31 23:29 |
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| Ziggy1 | brb in hour | Jan 31 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy1: cya | Jan 31 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | Hopefully BN will be rerun by then | Jan 31 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | I have things I want to post | Jan 31 23:31 |
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| Ziggy1 | do you have daily links ready? | Jan 31 23:31 |
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| *NZheretic has quit ("Leaving") | Jan 31 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Ziggy1: sort of, yes. | Jan 31 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | If it's not up in a few hours, I'll post them tomorrow | Jan 31 23:33 |
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| Ziggy1 | k,anyway cya | Jan 31 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | I did all I can to keep the site up for 4 hours of CPU murder, so I can't have regrets :-) | Jan 31 23:33 |
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| *Ziggy1 (n=brendan@123-243-163-103.static.tpgi.com.au) has left #boycottnovell | Jan 31 23:33 |
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