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| schestowitz | I bet there's an explanation for it | Sep 07 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | > " A small or medium-sized business hosting its own email is going to be | Sep 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | > much less efficient, especially when running (as Google assumes) the | Sep 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | > services on their own servers that aren't fully utilized. | Sep 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 14:12 |
| schestowitz | > Google is running its own custom servers with high-efficiency power | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > supplies. It's also making sure that its servers are close to fully | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > utilized. It's not at all surprising that Google's services are more | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > energy efficient per user, though the actual numbers are a bit | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > surprising. And going beyond Gmail, this makes a good environmental case | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > for cloud services versus self-hosted services." | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/09/google-says-gmail-is-80-times.php | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | > Some people hate the cloud, but it's hard to argue with this logic. | Sep 08 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Google Says Gmail is 80 Times More Energy Efficient - ReadWriteCloud .::. Size~: 45.61 KB | Sep 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | My email is hosted on a shared server with VMs that can be moved around (RHEL), so I think the 'cloud' hype used a phantom rival to justify its intrusion and lock-in. | Sep 08 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | ____/ bbgruff on Thursday 08 Sep 2011 15:14 : \____ | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > "It was once the world's leading search engine, its founders held talks | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > about a merger with Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation – and it even managed | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > to fend off a $44bn takeover bid by Microsoft. But Yahoo has put itself up | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > for sale, after firing its chief executive of 18 months Carol Bartz by | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > phone......" | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/07/yahoo-sale-google-apple | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Wait! Are they saying it's bad to partner with Microsoft?!?! | Sep 08 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Yahoo fires chief and puts itself up for sale in search for success | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.3 KB | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Well, that'll be the first. | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Remember Yahoo was about to sign a Google deal, but Microsoft hired AstroTurfers | Sep 08 15:56 |
| schestowitz | (proven fact, it's called LawMedia Group, among others) to derail it. | Sep 08 15:56 |
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| ender_2600 | ive always hated yahoo | Sep 08 20:17 |
| MinceR | i didn't care about yahoo until they started serving m$ | Sep 08 20:18 |
| MinceR | i hated them since | Sep 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | I just laughed at them | Sep 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo is what people without character might use | Sep 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | it's like eating at Wendy's | Sep 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Or an adult at Chucky Cheese | Sep 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | "Man, I love the name!! Ya huuu!" | Sep 08 20:19 |
| MinceR | could simply be an uninformed decision | Sep 08 20:19 |
| MinceR | or lack of decision (for example, due to it being the default somewhere) | Sep 08 20:19 |
| ender_2600 | well to me, yahoo.ca was no different from AOL | Sep 08 20:21 |
| ender_2600 | just a bunch of junk getting in the way of search | Sep 08 20:21 |
| ender_2600 | when they got DDOS'd, I cheered for MafiaBoy | Sep 08 20:22 |
| MinceR | to me, it was just The Less Efficient Way To Search (human-maintained directory instead of automatized) | Sep 08 20:22 |
| MinceR | ironically, now i often rely on human-maintained databases | Sep 08 20:22 |
| ender_2600 | I went from Infoseek to Altavista to Northern Light to Google | Sep 08 20:32 |
| MinceR | i went from altavista to metasearch engines the names of which i don't know to google to DDG and startpage | Sep 08 20:32 |
| MinceR | s/know/remember/ | Sep 08 20:32 |
| MinceR | oops, left out scroogle :> | Sep 08 20:33 |
| ender_2600 | I like DDG | Sep 08 22:04 |
| ender_2600 | on i2p | Sep 08 22:04 |
| ender_2600 | I just use google on the clearnet | Sep 08 22:05 |
| ender_2600 | everything on clearnet is monitored anyways | Sep 08 22:05 |
| ender_2600 | clearnet being normal http | Sep 08 22:06 |
| ender_2600 | non tor and non-i2p | Sep 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | does scoogle count as its own? | Sep 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | it's derived from the big G | Sep 08 22:15 |
| ender_2600 | well if you want to play that game then scratch off DDG, startpage and scroogle | Sep 08 22:17 |
| ender_2600 | they're meta engines | Sep 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm a meta-artist :-) | Sep 08 22:17 |
| ender_2600 | oh godf | Sep 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm meta-lica | Sep 08 22:31 |
| schestowitz | There is going to be a press article about cablegate and Microsoft | Sep 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | They accumulate evidence | Sep 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Sep 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > This is what i need :-- | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > 1. Some url/documents which shows what bad practices microsoft has been | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > doing in and in past to win government tenders in India. | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Our EDGI page has several examples from India, including the first one | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGI | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | For tenders, however, it doesn't seem that Microsoft needs to do much. It just gets the deal automatically after some Gates visit for some disease and loads of PR. See the documents for details. | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > 2. Some of the recent wikileaks cables if it is india centric and about | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > microsft bad practices. | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | I haven't gotten around to India Embassy cables, not yet anyway... | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > 3. Some wikileak cables of microsoft across world, how they are asking | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | > US diplomats for favor from various countries for lobbying. | Sep 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Look under http://techrights.org/category/cablegate/ as many examples were posted over the past week with some extra link for context, including EDGI ones. | Sep 08 22:55 |
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