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| schestowitz | "false .. I don't use windows ;)" | May 15 01:29 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I hate Lanier | May 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | He attacks FOSS, he is a Microsoft employee | May 15 01:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm | May 15 01:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | you should read this anyway | May 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights lanier | May 15 01:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Jaron Lanier is a Microsoft Troll and Source of FUD ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/ | May 15 01:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: July 19th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/irc-log-techrights-19072011.html | May 15 01:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - 2011 January 19 | Techrights - Part 2 | http://techrights.org/2011/01/19/page/2/ | May 15 01:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Proprietary Software Company With Microsoft Roots ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/24/black-duck-think-tank/ | May 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2617337 | May 15 01:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I will not be using #LinkedIn until I have read the new massive #privacy policy and user agreement. #Facebook2.0 #fail :( | May 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | "In russi...er, America, surveillance network takes advantage of YOU." | May 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618883 | May 15 01:31 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa does un-Constitutional things. That's the stuff that needs to leak. It's not illegal to leak the illegal. | May 15 01:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | lanier may be all that, but he's substantially right, in this interview. | May 15 01:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's worth reading | May 15 01:32 |
| schestowitz | "You're talking articles like or based upon this one? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/12/nsa-data-center-front-and-center-in-debate-over-liberty-security-and-privacy/ Asked if the Utah Data Center would hold the data of American citizens, Alexander said, "No...we don't hold data on U.S. citizens," adding that the NSA staff "take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that they do, and | May 15 01:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: NSA data center front and center in debate over liberty, security and privacy | Fox News .::. Size~: 55.65 KB | May 15 01:32 |
| schestowitz | securing this nation." IMO, most US citizens, even when shown proof, won't care & the gov't. will continue its practices. It comes back to the definitions of search, seizure, etc. I can't find the reference immediately, but the NSA/DHS/FBI/DOJ/et al spin is, that internal to gov't., the redefinition of search to mean analyzing the data to establish a pattern of activity or connection of network node points, rather than data | May 15 01:32 |
| schestowitz | gathering or collecting. Is it harmful to Liberty and Freedom? Sure. Is it legal or illegal, cue the lawyers. Again, do citizens care? Not if they still get their dose and allocation of bread and circuses." | May 15 01:32 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I disliked him even when he wrote for The Edge | May 15 01:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, even so, some of his points are worth considering. | May 15 01:33 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | you will probably find you are much more in tune with his thesis than you expect. | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Couple more data points and the contorted legal interpretation. Yes, maybe hard documentation would change this sorry state of affairs, but the legal risk and challenges to such a whistle blower are daunting. | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | NSA now spies on everyone in the US? http://www.peakprosperity.com/discussion/81873/nsa-now-spies-everyone-us | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Uncle Snoop listens – But the Supremes won’t hear http://www.peakprosperity.com/discussion/81378/uncle-snoop-listens-%E2%80%93-supremes-won%E2%80%99t-hear | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: NSA now spies on everyone in the US? | Peak Prosperity .::. Size~: 90.58 KB | May 15 01:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Uncle Snoop listens – But the Supremes won’t hear | Peak Prosperity .::. Size~: 47.73 KB | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: maybe, but I can follow other writers | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | many ideas are not original | May 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | They're concurrently being expressed | May 15 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | i haven't heard anyone else talk about these ideas | May 15 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's challenging the capitalist/Valley plutocrat orthodoxy | May 15 01:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody else brings good arguments to that fight | May 15 01:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | he actually brings arguments | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=37548 | May 15 01:35 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Hello Roy! | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for adding me again [my migrated account]. I'm trying to migrate off of the joindiaspora.org server, as it's located in USA. | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I have a question: is logging into the TechRights website really mandatory? It's quite cumbersome and it takes too much time, actually. Is there any way you could disable that option and allow anonymous posting? You could always use some good WordPress anti-spam plugins. | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Best regards! | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | For comments we require login to reduce vandalism and trolling... | May 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I don't see myself paying him for a book | May 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618896 | May 15 01:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA oes not 'google' people. It has a repository of all their emails, phonecalls, 'cloud' data, can also crack (illegally) people's PCs. | May 15 01:37 |
| schestowitz | "Wait, Google isn't the NSA?" | May 15 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2615349 | May 15 01:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't use Google Wallet or any other privatised payment system that doe ssuveillance of billing; use cash. http://allthingsd.com/20130510/googles-wallet-plans-for-io-cloud-expansion-on-but-longtime-physical-card-plan-scuttled/ | May 15 01:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Ahead of I/O, Google Wallet Drops Plans to Introduce a Physical Card - Liz Gannes - Mobile - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 65.16 KB | May 15 01:37 |
| schestowitz | "Which is why we need work on a truly anonymous digital currency asap. I wonder if Bitcoin + Ripple would be traceable?" | May 15 01:37 |
| schestowitz | "They will block other currencies for paying administrative stuff. It will be hard but worth trying!" | May 15 01:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618983 | May 15 01:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The notion of anti-{anything}, including anti-{corporations} (Exxon, Microsoft, Apple...) is cheap attempt to discredit rational stances. | May 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | "haters and extremists! there might even be a communist in the bunch." | May 15 01:40 |
| eikonos | i'm anti anyone whose anti-stuff | May 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618740 | May 15 01:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mako-Hill from !fsf publishes this paper http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/13/remixable-project #wired distorts it to #fud #foss http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/13/remixable-project | May 15 01:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Study: open source remixing seems to lead to less original work (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 57.62 KB | May 15 01:41 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Same link above - both are wired. You wanted, http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-remixing-dilemma | May 15 01:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The Remixing Dilemma: The Trade-off Between Generativity and Originality | copyrighteous .::. Size~: 26.87 KB | May 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Original and masterful work is rare per population but common in prosperity and freedom. Without leisure time and examples, there is no propagation of culture. | May 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: why? | May 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2616482 | May 15 01:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just returned the phone I had found on the ground (worth about $500), got wine as gift for returning it. | May 15 01:44 |
| schestowitz | "If I ever found Roy's phone, for sure I will install windows phone on it and them return it! Haha" | May 15 01:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: because of what I said. nobody else is bringing these kinds of arguments, definite arguments, to attack the Valley plutocracy. Everyone else (even me) is just hand-waving, oh Zuckerberg, Google are evil. Lanier explains WHY. | May 15 01:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and also why this situation must be reversed if society is to survive in any reasonable form | May 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Many people explain why | May 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Not sure how his arguments are unique, maybe they are... | May 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Does he attack Microsoft? | May 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | No | May 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | It's his employer | May 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | so cirticsiing Google would be part of his party line | May 15 01:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you'd have to read them. they're stronger than anything else i've heard. | May 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2616543 | May 15 01:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back to posting now. Cycled 7 KM, ran 10 KM up the rocky hills (Greenfield), then restaurant, museum, shops. friend's house. Tired. | May 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | "Lazy bum. Why in my day..." | May 15 01:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's not criticising specific companies, he's criticising the model. | May 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: taking a task of writing a book taks patience, maybe he already researched other people'\a arguments | May 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | our ciriticism of other things is inspired by stuff we read... | May 15 01:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I haven't heard anyone else advance his arguments. | May 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure the MS library is full of anti-Google args | May 15 01:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they are potently anti-orthodox | May 15 01:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you don't get it; never mind. | May 15 01:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: one day maybe you'll decide to READ them. | May 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | no, but if there's an excerpt online, then I can read it | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | he criticises paywalls, right? | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | I recommend THAT interview. | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | "You are not a gadget" and all, FB | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | and it's not behind a paywall. | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've read that book. | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | But his books are not open access, are they? | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | huh? | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | So he wants to embrace a DRM-like model, is that it? | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a frigging BOOK. | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | you BUY it. | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | is that radical now? | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | I share what I write | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | qu1j0t3 | I recommend THAT interview. i've read that book. | May 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | He sells it | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | so fucking what? | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not a fucking crime to write and sell a book. | May 15 01:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | i recommend THAT interview, which is freely available on Salon. | May 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I know, but where can I read his arguments online now? | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | for an intro to his arguments | May 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I would.. | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | ^^^^^ | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | btw, this isn't Gadget book | May 15 01:52 |
| *schestowitz looks for URL | May 15 01:52 | |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a new book | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | more focused on the problem of Facebook and others | May 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | [23:06] <qu1j0t3> http://www.salon.com/2013/05/12/jaron_lanier_the_internet_destroyed_the_middle_class/ | May 15 01:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Jaron Lanier: The Internet destroyed the middle class - Salon.com .::. Size~: 182.04 KB | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is worsening | May 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | let me read it slowly | May 15 01:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | haha | May 15 01:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | well | May 15 01:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | i appreciate you taking the effort. | May 15 01:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | pretend you don't know anything about the guy. | May 15 01:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | maybe it's easier for me because I remember him from the 1980s. | May 15 01:53 |
| schestowitz | I already see a lot of flawed reasoning | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | 1. Instagram is not photograpy | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | it's a bunch of filters | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | photography was made out of patents | May 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | which the technology aged | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | read the whole thing. | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | look for the general principles. | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | and that is good, it commoditises imagery | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | especially the economic arguments. | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | photos used to be priced out of range for many | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | reducing the # ogf photos most of us have from our childhood years | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | you're missing his point by miles. | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Instagrams as analogy for Kodak is flawed for many other reasons | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's not talking about instagram in isolation. | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, it's not | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | for the reason he came in with: | May 15 01:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | Kodak is GONE. | May 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | I still read, but I just read it critically too | May 15 01:58 |
| schestowitz | I agree that much is based on spying, as a business model.. | May 15 01:58 |
| schestowitz | But that's inevitable when storage gets cheap | May 15 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | what he has done, is connect this Valley bullshit with the general destruction of a fair society. | May 15 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Kodak is gone, that's OK | May 15 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | almost nobody is doing that. | May 15 01:58 |
| schestowitz | there is an economic problem | May 15 01:58 |
| schestowitz | not a technological one | May 15 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | WE know that Zuckerberg is part of that agenda. | May 15 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | but very few people are prepared to come out an dpublicly argue it. | May 15 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | the media can't | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | when miners lost their jobs they were not guaranteed substitution of labour | May 15 01:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | so it's up to ppl like Lanier | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | also, a lot of mechanisation of jobs and tasks means fewer ppeople are needed in labour | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | with birth and immigration the globalists need a smaller proportion of the workforce over time | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | that's an economic issue | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | the Internet accelerates some of the process | May 15 01:59 |
| schestowitz | [01:58] <qu1j0t3> WE know that Zuckerberg is part of that agenda. | May 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Zuckerberg is an opportunist who pl;ayed with PHP | May 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | and he grew a network, later sought ways to "monetise" it | May 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | then he met some other sociopath who advised and groomed him | May 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | *sociopth | May 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | the plan, originally, was not to destroy jobs but to create something of value to him, giving him power through data access... give me your data to access your cousin's photographs | May 15 02:01 |
| schestowitz | "The new book – which has drawn a rave in the New York Times — has already received a serious challenge from Evgeny Morozov in the Washington Post.' | May 15 02:01 |
| schestowitz | "The Internet-skeptic author of “To Save Everything, Click Here: The Folly of Technological Solutionism” challenges Lanier’s proposed solution that regular people be rewarded in micropayments when their data enriches a digital network." | May 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | That's an economic distribution issue | May 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | He might as well criticise present capitalism | May 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | "You talk early in “Who Owns the Future?” about Kodak — about thousand of jobs being destroyed, and Instagram picking up the slack — but with almost no jobs produced. So give us a sense of how that happens and what the result is. It seems like the seed of your book in a way." | May 15 02:03 |
| schestowitz | This seed is flawed | May 15 02:03 |
| schestowitz | many companies are involved in photography | May 15 02:04 |
| schestowitz | including camera makers | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the plutocracy finds uses for people like Zuck. it's not clear if he was a born gangster like Gates, or 'made'. probably both. | May 15 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Canon, Sony... | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes, camera makers need to be mentioned. | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but i don't think it's the whole story. Kodak was just one example. | May 15 02:04 |
| schestowitz | gates was not born gagsters | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of a phenomenon that will affect everyone. | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: close to it. | May 15 02:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he was an amoral teenager. | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth born to other sociopaths | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | he always had the same model to follow, he didn't grow out of poverty | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not amoral in his view | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | he was a spoiled kid | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | yelling at his mom, thinking he was a gif to the world | May 15 02:05 |
| schestowitz | wanting to become master of it since a young age | May 15 02:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | he was never a good person | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | "So Kodak has 140,000 really good middle-class employees, and Instagram has 13 employees, period." | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | Again this theme | May 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | automation is good | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | it lowered costs | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | it devalud images | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | by making a broader collection of them | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | aspirin too is cheap now | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | very cheap | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | it's not a bad thing | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | generics are good | May 15 02:07 |
| schestowitz | both can increase some measurable quality of life | May 15 02:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Instagram has 13 employees, period" // this is the plutocracy at work | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Instagram is some startup company | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't make photos | May 15 02:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | owned by Facebook. | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | it's just some image processing filters | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | the wanalogy is uncannt | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | *analogy *uncanny | May 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | there are several companies like it | May 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | I installed for my wife FXCam | May 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | it does some similar things | May 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | I only really use my camera for videos now | May 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | "Right, and also I think part of what you’re saying too is that it’s still in most ways a formal economy in that the person who lost his job at Kodak still has to pay rent with old-fashioned money he or she is no longer earning. He can’t pay his rent with cultural capital that’s replaced it." | May 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | This is a moot argument | May 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | might as well ask, what is the notion of pay and rent? Do we need those at all? | May 15 02:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | a moot argument? | May 15 02:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | no. | May 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | He departs from the assumption those are a given | May 15 02:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not a moot argument. | May 15 02:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is absolutely central to the agenda. | May 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | there are other economic systems | May 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | capitalist is the exhaustion of capital down the pyramid | May 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | The currency helps fit you into one layer or another in this pyramid | May 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | the Internet , like the ind. revolution, let those at the top re-arrange this pyramid a bit | May 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | like making it more narrow | May 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | or wider at the bottom | May 15 02:13 |
| schestowitz | the problem is the construction of this pyramid, not the means of achieving it | May 15 02:13 |
| schestowitz | I still get hate mail today for my criticism of CBS/ZDNet, but onlu from MS people | May 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | like this" | May 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | ". Soon to be MSFT Certified." | May 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Henryed07 | May 15 02:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Henry Edwards (Henryed07) on Twitter .::. Size~: 178.08 KB | May 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dochouse7/statuses/334475455660949504 | May 15 02:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @dochouse7: @edbott @schestowitz I remember Leo Laporte giving Mike Arrington shit for the same accusation. | May 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Leo Laporte took Microsoft gift and ad money | May 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | He also promotes MS stuff in FLOSS Weekly | May 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | yes, FOSS funded by Microsoft | May 15 02:16 |
| schestowitz | and he would put an ad segment promoting MS | May 15 02:16 |
| schestowitz | He got all sorts of other company gifts | May 15 02:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618720 | May 15 02:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google almost completes open-source #VP9 codec standard http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2013/05/11/google_almost_completes_open-source_vp9_codec_standard #webM | May 15 02:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Google almost completes open-source VP9 codec standard - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 78.24 KB | May 15 02:17 |
| schestowitz | "Those patents . . . we should use Dirac." | May 15 02:17 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Lanier too reluctant to criticise the system itself | May 15 02:18 |
| schestowitz | he doesn't look high enough up the assumptions | May 15 02:18 |
| schestowitz | like the economic models | May 15 02:18 |
| schestowitz | I think a lot of his thesis, as before, is based on the idea that the Internet is horrible | May 15 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Assange echoes similar sentiments for other reasons | May 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't share that view | May 15 02:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | he isn't criticising the technology at all. | May 15 02:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's criticising the strategies overlaid on it. | May 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2615359 | May 15 02:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Biometrics themselves not reliable for identifications, just verification (of identity), thus not as bad for civil liberties as geo-tagging. | May 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz | "The harm done to civil liberties by all of these things at once is more of a product than a sum. The rich and powerful gain more power over us both by having the means to track us and by convincing us they have some sort of perfect "king's eye" watching everyone at once. People both self censor and believe authority when it condemns their neighbor." | May 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: business strategies | May 15 02:19 |
| schestowitz | profiting from data on people | May 15 02:20 |
| schestowitz | something which public sector, for instance, is not allowed to do | May 15 02:20 |
| schestowitz | but since we gave tis data to private companies, they're exempted through some ToS to do what they do | May 15 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I think Google search enhanced like | May 15 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I think that sites that do imagery of satellite/streets have value also, despite the drawbacks to privacy | May 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz | I foresaw those things at a young age | May 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz | mobile devices, assuming you can disable the tracking and recording by the gov of all calls, are not so bad either | May 15 02:21 |
| schestowitz | I have a couple of phones, they sometimes get turned on to help me coordinate meeting someone at a place | May 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | Walkie-Talkie, just better reception | May 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611707 | May 15 02:22 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Earth for #Android Gets Street View http://mashable.com/2013/05/09/google-earth-android-street-view/ used to be separate plugin | May 15 02:22 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | The privacy issues around cell phones are not specific to Google and Android, which is free software, is a step in the right direction. Richard Stallman wrote an excellent piece about Android and cell phones two years ago, | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/19/android-free-software-stallman | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Replicant might be trusted if your phone's radio control computer is not able to take over the rest of your phone. CyanogenMod is a wonderful project but it's one that uses non free software to maximize user performance and this compromises privacy and freedom. Most other phones are even less free and can be used against the person carrying them. Logged in use of Google services on such a phone adds just one more set of eyes. | May 15 02:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Is Android really free software? | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 142.23 KB | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | The tendency for software owners to grab more power over users did not start with cell phones and tablets, but spectrum injustice is making things worse. Spectrum owners force people to chose between their privacy and the convenience of mobile communications. Laptop and desktop Windows and OSX users are striped of the same privacy and control as a condition of using the software. They are not borrowing this from cell phones, | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | they wrote the software for cell phones themselves. | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618530 | May 15 02:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Attributing "open" and not "free" to GNU and !FSF leads to wrong qustions/answers http://ostatic.com/blog/is-open-always-better | May 15 02:24 |
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| schestowitz | "What's wrong with #libre and #gratis? I've heard people say 'mericans can be bothered with learning the two latin-based words (even though half our cuisine is hispanic), by people who advocate one or another of FLOSS, FOSS, Free vs Free, Open-Source, GNU, GNU/Linux, etc..." | May 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/05/10/2014246/boston-replacing-microsoft-exchange-with-google-apps | May 15 02:28 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | An equally interesting link would be: http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/consumer-watchdog-exposed/ [techrights.org] | May 15 02:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Did Microsoft Hire Consumer Watchdog to Attack Google? | Techrights .::. Size~: 138.07 KB | May 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Where they show that Consumer Watchdog is actually a PR/lobbying firm hired by MS. | May 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | oh, cool, I found a new way to check backlinks | May 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | not done this for years | May 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Eugene Kaspersky cited TR some days ago | May 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | http://eugene.kaspersky.com/2013/05/13/patents-against-innovation/ | May 15 02:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Does patent system support innovation? - Kaspersky Blog | Nota Bene .::. Size~: 62.73 KB | May 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | we're also in some blogrolls like this site's http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/easy-way-to-remove-404-messages-on-apt-get-update/ | May 15 02:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Easy way to remove 404 messages on apt-get update | lkubuntu .::. Size~: 79.37 KB | May 15 02:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2602828 | May 15 03:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You can't preach to countries about human rights while spying *globally*, indefinitely detaining w/o charges, kill lists, torture, etc. | May 15 03:01 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:02 |
| schestowitz | My understanding is that the US funds Chechen separatists/terrorists to harass Russia. Like the Jamestown Foundation, who has had Dick Cheney, James Woosley, Zbigniew Brzezinski (CFR/Bilderburg) and Alexander Haig on the board of directors or management, and where the CIA-asset Tsarnaev brother who was blamed for the Boston Bombing came from (remember when they switched the narrative from 'white christian patriot terrorists' | May 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | at the last minute when in live-time Reddit, 4Chan and Alex Jones called out all the Navy Seals and Blackwater guys wearing the exact same backpack, ear-wires, and casual uniform used in the bombing?) | May 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | The CIA-front Jamestown Foundation has been blamed for inciting violence and carrying out acts of terror at public events for advancing a political agenda different than what is proclaimed by the front group.... But we all know they would never do that. | May 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618343 | May 15 03:20 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | May 15 03:20 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Tommy was actually a member of the inner circle of the british 'magic circle' and an accomplished prestidigitator. Obviously this is a relatively simple illusion, although the way the bottles sound and behave physically suggest to me that they are not particularly light. There are also many of them, and I can detect no size differential. | May 15 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Tommy died on stage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkvg2tr5eSA | May 15 03:20 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:20 |
| schestowitz | "Alan, you're probably right, but I was just pointing out that this video doesn't show as much as other videos of his death which have since been removed. Also, it was good to hear him saying 'thank you, love' as his final words." | May 15 03:22 |
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| schestowitz | the audience thought it was a joke http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b77_1240142064 | May 15 03:28 |
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| schestowitz | and laughed | May 15 03:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.oddee.com/contrib_14037.aspx | May 15 03:31 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Tommy Cooper suffers a fatal heart attack on live TV (Reader Contribution) - Oddee.com .::. Size~: 140.75 KB | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | "An assistant had helped him put on a cloak for his sketch, while Jimmy Tarbuck, the host, was hiding behind the curtain waiting to pass him different props which he would then appear to pull from inside his gown. The assistant smiled at him as he collapsed, believing that it was a joke. Likewise, the audience laughed as he fell, until it became apparent he was seriously ill. At this point the show's director cued the | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | orchestra to play music for an unscripted commercial break and Jimmy Tarbuck's manager pulled Cooper back through the curtains" | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | youtube removed the video | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | on copyrights grounds, it seems... | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Not letting history be seen | May 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1179569/YouTube-storm-video-showing-Tommy-Coopers-death-stage.html | May 15 03:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: YouTube storm over video showing Tommy Cooper's death on stage | Mail Online .::. Size~: 191.54 KB | May 15 03:32 |
| schestowitz | "YouTube was alerted to the distasteful nature of the video on Monday but has not removed it. " | May 15 03:32 |
| schestowitz | Google did stand up for free speech | May 15 03:32 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Tory MP Philip Davies, who sits on the Commons culture, media and sport select committee, called for the clips to be taken down. | May 15 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1179569/YouTube-storm-video-showing-Tommy-Coopers-death-stage.html#ixzz2TKCHjrMZ | May 15 03:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: YouTube storm over video showing Tommy Cooper's death on stage | Mail Online .::. Size~: 191.54 KB | May 15 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook | May 15 03:33 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 03:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8dmuf/tommy_cooper_dying_on_stage_from_a_heart_attack/ | May 15 03:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Tommy Cooper dying on stage from a heart attack while audience laughs (rare video) : reddit.com .::. Size~: 129.96 KB | May 15 03:34 |
| schestowitz | "This video contains content from ITV.com, who has blocked it on copyright grounds. " | May 15 03:34 |
| schestowitz | ITV used copyrights for censorship essentially | May 15 03:34 |
| trmanco | patch tuesday today | May 15 03:35 |
| schestowitz | yay | May 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | slow Internet\ | May 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was first Tusday of the month | May 15 03:38 |
| schestowitz | *Tusday | May 15 03:38 |
| trmanco | just had one | May 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if that may exlain my connection dropouts at the middle of every month | May 15 03:40 |
| trmanco | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038741/microsoft-takes-care-of-ie-zero-day-with-patch-tuesday-update.html | May 15 03:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Microsoft takes care of IE zero day with Patch Tuesday update | PCWorld .::. Size~: 94.19 KB | May 15 03:40 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it as BT would have thought so if this was in fact the cause | May 15 03:40 |
| trmanco | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms13-may | May 15 03:40 |
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| schestowitz | One thing I realise in light of tf this Tommy Copoper controversy is that if someone dies on stage, s/he might be remembered for that rather than for other things which are less unique | May 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | Mr. Ball said to a friend of mine he became better known on the Internet for fighting the BSA and Microsoft over his infringement rather than for his guitar skills | May 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | And that's not how he wants future generations to remember him.. | May 15 03:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there is a way to discount what Lanier is saying -- we can say, look, there will be plenty of brick-and-mortar, formal economy jobs left to keep society functioning. | May 15 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but there's a problem, and he anticipates it | May 15 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: technology is coming for those, too. Example: schoolteachers. | May 15 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and Gates' fingers are all over it. | May 15 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Gates isn't about making sure there is 1 teacher for 20 students. | May 15 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he wants 1 teacher for 500, 2000, 20,000 students. | May 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | just Gates? | May 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Gates too is overwriting history | May 15 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | not just Gates. the whole agenda. | May 15 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but look closely. | May 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | he wants to be remembered as a Saint, using the money he acquired as a criminal | May 15 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: 20 years ago, it might have been assumed that schoolteaching was an everlasting profession. | May 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | like a Mafia Don giving mafia to food for the poor and shelter | May 15 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: if we let the plutocrats have their way, it will disappear entirely. | May 15 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | along with 1000 other occupations. | May 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | He helps automate the proces... 'helps' | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | they. won't. stop. | May 15 03:45 |
| schestowitz | Removing humans from the process | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | and we were warned | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly schestowitz | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly. | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | removing humans from all processes. | May 15 03:45 |
| schestowitz | leaving the teaching to plutocracy and beaurocrasy above | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | We Are The Product. | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | ^^^ And this was Lanier's thesis since Gadget. | May 15 03:45 |
| schestowitz | Webcam and bracelets to control the childre while indoctrinated | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | so please give him some credit. | May 15 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | his predictions are accurate, in this case. | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, Gates will computerise medicine. | May 15 03:46 |
| schestowitz | was he first? | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | remote surgery. | May 15 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I think not | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | eliminate 9 out of 10 surgeons. | May 15 03:46 |
| schestowitz | FB where users are the product is not a novel concept | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | leave human surgery for the rich | May 15 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I saw this argument before You Are Not a gadget | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | and cheaper robot surgery for the poor. | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is not far fetched. | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | they WILL do this if we let them. | May 15 03:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | they already began, the ball is rolling. | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, but it's not all bad | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | you could program it | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | do you know pilots are now hardly needed? | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | The plane has the flight programmed | May 15 03:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | surgery isn't flying. | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | THe pilots are there more as backup | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | It leaves less room for human error | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | the humans are fallback | May 15 03:47 |
| schestowitz | some surgeries are simpler | May 15 03:48 |
| schestowitz | some require many staff around | May 15 03:48 |
| schestowitz | my sister in law is a surget room nurse, they have several there in each surgery session | May 15 03:48 |
| schestowitz | but these are the complicated ones | May 15 03:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you know that's not why they are doing it. | May 15 03:48 |
| schestowitz | like kidney or liver | May 15 03:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: this might be something the press releases will argue. | May 15 03:48 |
| schestowitz | some surgeries like breast implants are less potentially lethal | May 15 03:49 |
| schestowitz | automation CAN lower the cost, but it doesn't have to | May 15 03:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | god | May 15 03:49 |
| schestowitz | usually it means better margins for those at the top | May 15 03:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | i can't imagine anything worse than automated cosmetic surgery | May 15 03:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is awful | May 15 03:49 |
| schestowitz | possible | May 15 03:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think i'd better put this topic on hold and do some work | May 15 03:50 |
| schestowitz | like sunbeds | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm starting to get weirded out | May 15 03:50 |
| schestowitz | you can calibrate with machinery | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | sunbeds aren't benign either -- to make a bad pun | May 15 03:50 |
| schestowitz | put the breast in between some rails | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok ok :) | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | let's put this conv on hold | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i just ate :) | May 15 03:50 |
| schestowitz | and then have some routine with camera run (I hate breast implants BTW) | May 15 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Many girls these days have this procedure | May 15 03:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: now think of your sister or mother in that machine | May 15 03:51 |
| schestowitz | what about automation of mammograms? | May 15 03:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | or daughter | May 15 03:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | the rich would never use it | May 15 03:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | they would buy the best surgeon | May 15 03:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | consult friends over golf | May 15 03:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Who did your daugher?" | May 15 03:51 |
| schestowitz | I recently went to an interview for a job which automates just part of the process, selection for screeening | May 15 03:51 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: true | May 15 03:51 |
| schestowitz | some have it done cheap | May 15 03:51 |
| schestowitz | They pay for it later when there are infections | May 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | sister in law sees such incidents... in patients who had it done cheaply | May 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | it can leak and explode | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | worst case, they die in the operation | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | happens here | May 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | but some would be wiling to take the risk, they think short term.. | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | in toronto | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | but that's the thing schestowitz | May 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | tattooing can be automated | May 15 03:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | they have been trained to "think short term", to value the unimportant | May 15 03:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's all training | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | calibrate, use computer vision, move needle to plot a design | May 15 03:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | they are trained to be an expendable resource | May 15 03:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is part of it | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | not endorsing it, just sayin' | May 15 03:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | destroyign public education is the biggest part | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | people are becoming less needed for motoric tasks | May 15 03:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | we cannot tolerate the agenda | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | it's happening | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | an extension of the industrial revolution | May 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | was in the museum the other day, saw lots of 19th century industry, inc. quarry | May 15 03:54 |
| schestowitz | here in the UK. Mining, building, etc. Many of those jobs are gone, outsources, made automated, etc. | May 15 03:54 |
| schestowitz | it's not all bad | May 15 03:54 |
| schestowitz | those jobs were very hard, we now let fossils fuels deal with many of those tough things, and we have better medication (other than alcohol) | May 15 03:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Lanier appeals to some Luddites | May 15 03:55 |
| schestowitz | not only | May 15 03:55 |
| schestowitz | but to me it sounds like he makes sound point about us becoming products in the information sense | May 15 03:55 |
| schestowitz | We were always a product, a labour product | May 15 03:55 |
| schestowitz | With a value on out head since birth, capable of producing some amount of tangiable work or extracted/refined material in our lifetime | May 15 03:56 |
| schestowitz | now it's changed to a digital equiv. | May 15 03:56 |
| schestowitz | FB uses labout for "generating content" | May 15 03:56 |
| schestowitz | and it's unpaid labour | May 15 03:56 |
| schestowitz | FB has people do this | May 15 03:57 |
| schestowitz | Google just exploits what's in existence | May 15 03:57 |
| schestowitz | You don't build sits for Google, but Google comes to your sites | May 15 03:57 |
| schestowitz | FB I view as a lot more malicious for this reason | May 15 03:57 |
| schestowitz | From Google I actually derive some value, from their indexing output | May 15 03:58 |
| schestowitz | I can resolve many technical issues that I could not before by searchinfg for obscure error | May 15 03:58 |
| schestowitz | like the GRUB error that nearly forced me to clean-install my OS that I use at this moment | May 15 03:58 |
| schestowitz | As for FB, I deleted family accoutns on it, as they asked for it | May 15 03:59 |
| schestowitz | my wife asked me to close her account too or delete it, I actually vetoed it and said, put new content only off-site | May 15 03:59 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to her cousin the other day, said to her to salvage her friendset content before the site implodes for good | May 15 03:59 |
| schestowitz | FB, I argued, will go doen the same path | May 15 03:59 |
| schestowitz | and one needs to be in control of his/her own data | May 15 04:00 |
| schestowitz | Not putting it behind paywalls or privacy-infringing walls, requiring that one gives info to Mark in exhcnage for access to a friend's or relative's data | May 15 04:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's the microsoft model | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | how so? | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611707 | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | "be in the middle, collecting a toll" | May 15 04:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Earth for #Android Gets Street View http://mashable.com/2013/05/09/google-earth-android-street-view/ used to be separate plugin | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | "the historical fight for power!" | May 15 04:01 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: microsoft wants to tax everything we do with a computer. | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: oh, right | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's the same as facebook. | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe with document format | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, with everything. | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | they are totalitarian. | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | I send you DOCX, you need to get a licence from MS to read my work | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's how we were warned | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | not just to read your DOCX | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | but to write MY novel... | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | does Lanier ever criticise MSFT? | May 15 04:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | to access ANYTHING anywhere | May 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Did they pay him well to gag him on MSFT? | May 15 04:02 |
| schestowitz | And to focus on Google? | May 15 04:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | i doubt it :) | May 15 04:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's no Miguel | May 15 04:02 |
| schestowitz | does he ciriticse MS in is book? | May 15 04:02 |
| schestowitz | if not, then it's money well spent by The Vole | May 15 04:02 |
| schestowitz | they also paid Ken Brown to allege Linux ripped off MINIX | May 15 04:02 |
| schestowitz | To me, that'\s a reason not to trust Lanier | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | He's tainted to me | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | There is a lot of sythetic/organic anti-Google out there | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | The sentiments are controlled by money | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft paid academics too for it | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Many of them | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | And it's becoming a trap | May 15 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes to change the discussion in the media, in conference | May 15 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Watch out for it before you too become their "Gadget" | May 15 04:04 |
| schestowitz | A gadget of FUD | May 15 04:04 |
| schestowitz | One that disseminates the Google-focused criticism | May 15 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Ignoring the elephant in the room | May 15 04:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | no | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | that is not likely | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can see why | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | you know my interests | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | and you know my sources | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | they are mostly outside tech | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | tech is just a special case of plutocratic ruin | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | and a very recent one | May 15 04:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | however, it could be the final most potent one | May 15 04:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | if left in the hands of Zuck, Gates, and the Valley :| | May 15 04:07 |
| schestowitz | zuck is not so influential | May 15 04:10 |
| schestowitz | FB is dying, slowly | May 15 04:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/05/12/facebook-and-bing/ | May 15 04:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Facebook and Microsoft Get Closer, Now Reaching Their Relationship’s Peak as Facebook Declines | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.02 KB | May 15 04:12 |
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| qu1j0t3 | i'm not sure | May 15 04:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's nowhere for people to go | May 15 04:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: facebook cannibalised existing communities. | May 15 04:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there's no other community to move TO, for most people | May 15 04:19 |
| schestowitz | true | May 15 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Classmates etc. went extinct | May 15 04:24 |
| schestowitz | FB got a monopoly on this type of thing | May 15 04:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | Orkut | May 15 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Google, no? | May 15 04:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | in other parts of the world, Orkut became uncool, Fb was a status symbol: California glow | May 15 04:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | the middle class moved | May 15 04:24 |
| schestowitz | if the middle class is dying, hen fi you don't pretend or aspire to be upper class, you'd be in the slumb, perhaps, some da down the line.. | May 15 04:29 |
| schestowitz | but it's not all about class | May 15 04:29 |
| schestowitz | it's about freedom, too | May 15 04:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | division | May 15 04:30 |
| schestowitz | I recently explained to a friend, you need to normalise the notion of wages by how much effort you put it | May 15 04:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's very simple | May 15 04:30 |
| schestowitz | many managers work 60-80 hours (net) per week | May 15 04:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and the OPPOSITE of that is happening | May 15 04:30 |
| schestowitz | so you'd have to halve their wage to know how much they earn on a regular scale | May 15 04:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Sandberg banked $ 830 MILLION in one year. | May 15 04:30 |
| schestowitz | My brither hates his employer, he told me they have him work 3 hours a week | May 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | always lookinf for more labour while firing staff, as they did (Phlips) | May 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | BTW, there's a new way to avoid paying for overtime | May 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | You say you get paid only when going pass some threshld and then discourage the employees from going past this threshold | May 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yes, they make it more efficient for upper management and shareholders to cash in | May 15 04:32 |
| schestowitz | on the backs of people who do the actual wor | May 15 04:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm just lucky not to be abused like that, I love my job | May 15 04:33 |
| schestowitz | I almost even anticipating a working session | May 15 04:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | good :) | May 15 04:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | build up psychological capital | May 15 04:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | you might need it later | May 15 04:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't deny but rather I admit that I didn't have a tough career | May 15 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Sheltered much of the time by academia and now finding from-home jobs, since 2006 | May 15 04:34 |
| schestowitz | it's possible, but I did experience the other types of jobs, even for long periods of times, so it gives me perspective | May 15 04:35 |
| schestowitz | Not to be confused with ignorance of what other people need to cope with on a daily basis | May 15 04:35 |
| schestowitz | sometimes, maybe once a year, I need to go on-site for clients for several days. it's mentally exhausting, I could never blog at night while doing this 5 days a week, and this works out pretty well for me, as not many people are able to compete by expressing their minds online | May 15 04:36 |
| schestowitz | debt induces labour for long hours, which impedes self-expression and popular movement, real education, scepticism... | May 15 04:37 |
| schestowitz | All are means of control | May 15 04:37 |
| schestowitz | And delusion | May 15 04:37 |
| schestowitz | for self-indulgence at a shallow level | May 15 04:37 |
| schestowitz | my friend who is a professor just blew his savings on a car | May 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | last night he told me he signed to buy a car for 70k pounds, about $100k | May 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | I asked him why, he couldn't offer any good reasoning | May 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | rather than envy him he saw me treating him like a bit of a fool | May 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | He competes with some neurosurgeons, a friend of his who has a car hat cost around 66k | May 15 04:39 |
| schestowitz | *neurosurgeon or neurologist, can't remember which | May 15 04:39 |
| schestowitz | The point is this: | May 15 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Even sceptical and well-educated people can be led down the road of shallow thinking, and it removes their freedom, he blew his savings on a vanity item | May 15 04:40 |
| schestowitz | one HAS to be brainwashed by the mainstream propaganda to be lured into this irrational course of action | May 15 04:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/cloud-open-source-116223 | May 15 04:43 |
| schestowitz | "Over half (52 percent) of the 420 respondents indicated that their preferred private cloud supplier was VMware. Microsoft came second with 26 percent, but open source initiatives such as OpenStack and CloudStack managed only 12 percent and eight percent respectively." | May 15 04:43 |
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| schestowitz | Another FUD report... | May 15 04:43 |
| schestowitz | Many of these recently | May 15 04:43 |
| schestowitz | knocking FOSS, usually proprietary software companies turn out to be behind those 'reports' and 'studies' | May 15 04:43 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: that article you cited is from a Microsoft-funed guy | May 15 04:51 |
| schestowitz | http://bradleystrategygroup.com/our-clients/ | May 15 04:51 |
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| schestowitz | That may help explain his anti-Linux articles | May 15 04:51 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, just chose the top result from google | May 15 04:52 |
| trmanco | !google patch tuesday | May 15 04:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Patch Tuesday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_Tuesday | May 15 04:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Patch Tuesday - PC Support - About.com | http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsp/g/patch-tuesday.htm | May 15 04:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Microsoft Security Bulletin Advance Notification - TechNet - Microsoft | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/gg309152.aspx | May 15 04:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - patch tuesday posts on CNET - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html%3Fkeyword%3Dpatch%2Btuesday | May 15 04:52 |
| trmanco | google.ca | May 15 04:52 |
| schestowitz | His site has lots of Vista8 crap in it | May 15 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BradleyStrategy/status/334488465469239296 | May 15 04:56 |
| TechrightsSocial | @BradleyStrategy: Microsoft takes the offensive against Google, and it's about time. http://t.co/LfBJRTIikX | May 15 04:56 |
| schestowitz | still the ro-Microsoft line | May 15 04:56 |
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| schestowitz | usually it's people whom Microsoft pays | May 15 04:56 |
| schestowitz | business | May 15 04:56 |
| schestowitz | IDG hires many of them, CBS too | May 15 04:56 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper | May 15 05:06 |
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| schestowitz | "His stage persona required that his act intentionally went wrong for comic purposes, leading to some initial uncertainty about whether this collapse was real." | May 15 05:06 |
| schestowitz | "To keep the audience on their toes, Cooper threw in the occasional trick that worked when it was least expected." | May 15 05:07 |
| schestowitz | "The video of Tommy Cooper suffering a heart attack on stage has been uploaded to numerous video sharing websites. YouTube was heavily criticised by the press when footage of the incident was posted on their website in May 2009" | May 15 05:09 |
| schestowitz | not so lon ago rms was rushed to the hospital before his talk | May 15 05:14 |
| schestowitz | http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=900477 | May 15 05:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Today Pick "Sales representative Jim Gilbert favors InterDigital Communications,a King of Prussia,Pa.,wireless-communications technology co.He owns "tons"of the stock and is impressed by the compamy's "key patents"for third generation wireless service. " | May 15 05:23 |
| schestowitz | Oh, tha explains why he sent me nasty mails for calling them patenr trolls, whuich they are | May 15 05:23 |
| schestowitz | " The new chairman of the 9/11 commission, replacing Kissinger, has business ties with Osama bin Laden's brother in law. " | May 15 05:49 |
| schestowitz | http://stallman.org/archives/archive-2002.html | May 15 05:49 |
| schestowitz | It's false | May 15 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO212A.html | May 15 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | "Sheik Khalid bin Mahfouz is not the brother in law of Osama bin Laden, is not a close associate of Osama bin Laden and has never supported terrorism. It was further wrongly alleged that Sheihk Khalid bin Mahfouz was part owner of Delta Oil Limited. We accept that Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz and his family abhor terrorism. We also apologise to Sheik Khalid bin Mahfouz for the distress and embarrassment caused by the publication | May 15 05:50 |
| schestowitz | of the book and the article." | May 15 05:50 |
| schestowitz | Notice how many links in this page are broken | May 15 05:51 |
| schestowitz | only one decade after they were cited | May 15 05:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/images/shared-sacrifice.png | May 15 05:55 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | May 15 05:55 |
| schestowitz | http://disobedience.mit.edu/?p=813 | May 15 06:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618806 | May 15 06:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu to stop Brainstorm http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-to-stop-Brainstorm-1862298.html sign of the times. #ubuntu | May 15 06:28 |
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| schestowitz | "Accepting every controversial decision as "positive" does not work either. If Ubuntu is not interested in people's opinion or if people are not interested in giving their opinion, that cannot be considered positive." | May 15 06:28 |
| schestowitz | Apple-like | May 15 06:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618806 | May 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 08:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu to stop Brainstorm http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-to-stop-Brainstorm-1862298.html sign of the times. #ubuntu | May 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos, didnt say this is positive. But I'm not sure it is bad either. The article clearly says brainstorm had become unmaintained and activity had fallen. Why keep wasting energy and resources on it then? | May 15 08:24 |
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| schestowitz | I never visited brainstorm so cannot really say. But I know resisting change just because it is a change is certainly not good. | May 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | "But mainly my comment was towards Roys open hostility towards Ubuntu as of late :)" | May 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz | I tried, unsuccessfully, to upgrade Moodle to the latest version that | May 15 11:53 |
| schestowitz | came out last night and made some recommendations, based on what I had | May 15 11:53 |
| schestowitz | read, saying that what's important is that we get all Moodle-supported | May 15 11:53 |
| schestowitz | data fields for staff tables first (the ones in the wiki). | May 15 11:53 |
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| schestowitz | [07:21] <schestowitz> Hi all | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | [07:22] <schestowitz> I currently use twitfolk to access identica, fetch timeline feed for an account in identi.ca, then output it to IRC. Will this still work without modification (same API) after June 1st (pump.io) migration? | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | [09:27] <marjolein> schestowitz, no it won't - pump.io will have a totally different API. | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | [09:28] <marjolein> schestowitz, you could ask the developer to add pump.io support, or find another tool that does support the API (they will be scarce at first) | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | [09:29] <marjolein> schestowitz, you may find out more in the #pump.io channel | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | [13:46] <schestowitz> marjolein: thanks | May 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what s/w do you use to echo twitter in IRC? | May 15 13:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618431 | May 15 14:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: [](http://bit.ly/15Hifjr)<br> **[Boys Vs. Girls (True Or False)](http://bit.ly/15Hifjr)** #boysandgirls #meme #humor #funny #lol #geek #drama #gpoy #truestory #trueorfalse #computers #computing #tech<br><sub> - [via Easyshare](http://j.mp/XmyxIA)</sub><br><br> | May 15 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | "YES ! linux" | May 15 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618896 | May 15 15:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA oes not 'google' people. It has a repository of all their emails, phonecalls, 'cloud' data, can also crack (illegally) people's PCs. | May 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | "That does it...I'm starting a White House petition. I demand to know if the NSA is a branch of Google, or if Google is a branch of the NSA." | May 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Google is where the CIA and FBI go (or send request) when the NSA does not have the desired data stored already | May 15 15:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622174 | May 15 15:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Android accounts for 74 percent of smartphones sold in Q1. Were we not told by Microsoft that Linux is just for hobbyists? | May 15 15:19 |
| schestowitz | "I don't think it's right to insist that Android is Linux. Of course it's core is Linux. But this doesn't matter. It's mostly a Java software stack. You can't run Applications from Android on GNU/Linux, at least not without hacks, and vice versa. It wouldn't make any difference if Android had another core." | May 15 15:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datamation.com/cloud-computing/how-open-source-python-drives-the-openstack-cloud-video.html | May 15 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/334677077863325696?refsrc=email | May 15 15:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | @laurelrusswurm: #Tzag @hgfernan @schestowitz @cwebber @erjanyilmaz @question @dennisgut @nybill & good morning #identiverse | May 15 15:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/100973058http://idhttp://identi.ca/notice/100973058enti.ca/notice/100973058 | May 15 15:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Erkan Yılmaz (erkanyilmaz)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 14:41:27 UTC - oracle: Good evening, Laurel :-) cc @theru @dennisgut and ccc to the sleeping @hgfernan @schestowitz @cwebber @nybill ;-) | May 15 15:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | Couldn't resolve host 'id' ( http://id ) | May 15 15:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a dent? | May 15 15:43 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/100973058 | May 15 15:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Erkan Yılmaz (erkanyilmaz)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 14:41:27 UTC - oracle: Good evening, Laurel :-) cc @theru @dennisgut and ccc to the sleeping @hgfernan @schestowitz @cwebber @nybill ;-) | May 15 15:43 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Hello, Dr. Schestowitz! I am reading a lot of posts every day written by you and I ask myself if you might able to help me. I do own a Bluemedia PDA 255 (Same hardware as Yakumo Delta 300 GPS). I want to put Linux on it because I don't want to use Windows Mobile 2003 anymore. I remember the Familiar Linux Project which was a distribution made for these Intel PXA processors, but I don't have more information about it, 'cause | May 15 20:26 |
| schestowitz | the site dealing with the linux images for these devices is down (handhelds.org). I have a boot image for HP Compaq h3900 which has the same processor. Do you think I could use it? I'm not a beginner in Linux, but a beginner in device-flashing. | May 15 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Regards Jakob | May 15 20:26 |
| schestowitz | " | May 15 20:26 |
| schestowitz | What I would do first is check if the Web Archive (Time Machine) has a copy of the site that's down... | May 15 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/19/eric_schmidt_money_is_the_only_reason_julian_assange_redacted_wikileaks_files | May 15 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | ""Assange told us he redacted only to reduce the international pressure that was financially strangling him and said he would have preferred no redactions," writes Schmidt and his co-author Jared Cohen. " | May 15 21:35 |
| eikonos | CNN did a story on the harsh conditions at guantanamo... | May 15 21:55 |
| eikonos | …for the guards | May 15 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2623134 | May 15 22:07 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CNN did a story on the harsh conditions at Guantanamo...…for the guards" -eikonos (like stories about #drone pilots' boredom) | May 15 22:07 |
| eikonos | The Onion should just repost these verbatim | May 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622966 | May 15 22:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Behind the A.P. Phone-Record Scandal http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/ap-phone-record-scandal-justice-department-law.html http://bigstory.ap.org/article/govt-obtains-wide-ap-phone-records-probe misses the point that #nsa records everything | May 15 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | "That cannot be admitted by the FBI, DOJ, CIA or other entities. Plausible deniability for the NSA must be maintained." | May 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/100976727 | May 15 22:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 20:25:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yuo missspellled Australia | May 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/100976687 | May 15 22:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 20:21:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz next Putin sympathizers? | May 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | But never Stalin sympathisers. | May 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622988 | May 15 22:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russian MP wants Nazi sympathizers to face criminal charges http://rt.com/politics/russian-lawmakers-against-nazism-254/ #russia | May 15 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | "Using the threat of Hitler to ban liberties? Well, the Zionists turned into eugenics-based National Socialists with ghettos, concentration camps, and all, so I guess this is slightly less surprising than that..." | May 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/100977206 | May 15 22:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 21:13:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz no Windows? | May 15 22:17 |
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