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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 8th, 2008

Posted in IRC Logs at 3:39 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz


Enter the IRC channel now

jose__ that’s good news: Sun is crowing that a judicial ruling in the NetApp_Sun IP lawsuit has effectively invalidated another NetApp patent. The US Patent Office also appears to be rejecting NetApp’s key patents in the law suit. Oct 08 00:12
schestowitz Well, there are many more patents out there. Oct 08 00:12
jose__ exactly Oct 08 00:12
schestowitz The only value of this potential ruling is a ‘watch and learn’ thing Oct 08 00:12
schestowitz But Sun was able to counter-sue because NetApp has some real products. Had it been a troll… Oct 08 00:13
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jose__ trollness is a loophole. Eventually, I see nothing but trolls and major companies develop partnerships with them.. and gplv3 will need help Oct 08 00:13
jose__ developing Oct 08 00:14
jose__ not “develop” Oct 08 00:14
jose__ i wanted the gpl to add more in terms of prohibiting from having “interests” in third parties bringing in the lawsuit.. but that could lead to complex language and still leave room out. it’s an ugly game Oct 08 00:16
schestowitz So will the lawmakers in other countries. Oct 08 00:16
schestowitz The shenanigans strive to make laws in other countries ‘equally ruined’ Oct 08 00:16
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jose__ one more patent cast down does add evidence that patents are being granted badly and to loss of time and money Oct 08 00:17
jose__ monopolies are being granted nilly-willy Oct 08 00:17
schestowitz There’s a rescue plan^TM Oct 08 00:17
schestowitz If a broken economy sinks, then better ones take over. Oct 08 00:17
schestowitz It’s Darwinism where broken systems just due. Oct 08 00:18
schestowitz *die. It’s not sustainable living in a 10,000,000,000,000 debt Oct 08 00:18
schestowitz $ Oct 08 00:18
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jose__ oh, oh Oct 08 00:37
jose__ http://www.linuxtoday.com/sec… Oct 08 00:37
schestowitz “Jane, get the one without the virus.” Oct 08 00:38
jose__ schestowitz, the best type of marketing.. head to head comparisons in your favor Oct 08 00:38
schestowitz *LOL* Oct 08 00:38
schestowitz Or format it. Oct 08 00:39
jose__ new vocabulary for users: format, distro, apt-get Oct 08 00:40
schestowitz http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008… Oct 08 00:41
jose__ thx for the link Oct 08 00:43
schestowitz I’ll post a big bunch in BN pretty soon. Oct 08 00:46
schestowitz Fell behind because I had other things to catch up with.. Oct 08 00:46
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twitter AptonCD, a very cool idea for cloning a computer spur of the moment. Oct 08 02:56
twitter it’s already in Lenny. Oct 08 02:56
schestowitz Geex Oct 08 02:59
schestowitz Some /.er has just pulled a comment of mine from 3 years ago: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=14… Oct 08 03:00
schestowitz He also took a shot at you again. Oct 08 03:00
schestowitz twitter: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/07/novel… Oct 08 03:00
schestowitz You’ve got to stop that nymshifting thing. It’s an embarrassment no matter the circumstance. Oct 08 03:00
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wingfreex sorry, i thought this chan was r opensuse Oct 08 03:07
wingfreex *for Oct 08 03:07
schestowitz Oh Oct 08 03:11
schestowitz Well, benJIman is from OpenSUSE. He spies here. Oct 08 03:11
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twitter I’m not embarrassed and I’m not going to castrate myself for people who think it’s OK to help M$ screw everyone. Oct 08 03:39
twitter For all I know, BuckleDown, AlexH, Mark Anderson and Dan O’Brian are the same troll that wrote the willyhill journal they like to past to every Slashdot post I make. Oct 08 03:40
twitter One thing is for sure, they hate you and your site. Oct 08 03:42
twitter That’s not the kind of people you should take advice from. Oct 08 03:42
schestowitz We can’t censor though. I’m not going there (moderation cop) Oct 08 03:48
twitter I’d throw them out.  All they do is call you a liar.  They are not here to help you, they are here to harm and mislead. Oct 08 03:53
pombat42 Speaking of castration, not sure if you know this but there is some very hateful dialog that shows up in Google concerning Roy and castration. Oct 08 03:54
pombat42 It’s disgusting Oct 08 03:54
twitter yes, I forgot that.  sorry. Oct 08 03:54
twitter The first thing I thought of was neuter myself. Oct 08 03:54
pombat42 Not a good idea :) Oct 08 03:55
schestowitz pombat42: it’s libel. Oct 08 03:55
twitter What I really mean is I’m not going to let these fuckers censor me. Oct 08 03:55
pombat42 never censor anything. you only play into the hands of the fools. let them expose themselves for what they are. Oct 08 03:55
twitter I’m going to actually look at this novelvideo crap.  I imagine I’ll find some repulsive designed by committee advertisement.  The chances is was make by this supposed Ross Brunsin are nill. Oct 08 03:56
pombat42 You are a celebrity now Roy!  When they attack you with fluff, you know you are on the right track. Oct 08 03:57
twitter Heh, I liked the Mac vrs PC vrs Linux ads, but I’ve seen porn flicks with a better budget.  Thanks Novell. Oct 08 04:04
schestowitz de Icaza was involved with the idea, IIRC. Oct 08 04:06
twitter Shrits advertisement also nice. Oct 08 04:10
twitter That one had a budget, music even. Oct 08 04:11
pombat42 Personally I think the Mac vs PC ads are brilliant. The rebuttal PC ads are stupid.  The best ads were the Dell dude ads. Oct 08 04:12
pombat42 A lot of sexual undertones with the Dell ads. Especially between the mom and the Dell dude. Oct 08 04:13
pombat42 The worst ads are the Vista / Mojave ads. They are totally bogus. Oct 08 04:14
schestowitz The spoofs anyway. :-) Oct 08 04:14
schestowitz Mojave looks like rat labs. Oct 08 04:15
schestowitz They also treat people like rats — stupid. Oct 08 04:15
pombat42 It looks like they found the 10 dumbest people on earth Oct 08 04:15
tessier What is Mojave? Oct 08 04:15
twitter Novellionair was funny, but BYU students made it.  Shame to be out budgeted by students. Oct 08 04:15
pombat42 Vista Oct 08 04:15
tessier Aside from a town in the high desert? Oct 08 04:15
pombat42 Code name for a fake new version of Windows Oct 08 04:16
twitter actors are not always that bright, but I would not call them the 10 dumbest people on Earth Oct 08 04:16
twitter Pretty shiny advertisements.  Too bad the company is fucking evil. Oct 08 04:16
pombat42 I doubt they are actors, however I suspect they had to wade through 1000 different clips before they sifted out the 10 dumbest. Oct 08 04:17
pombat42 The advertisement sucks. Nobody I know likes it. Oct 08 04:17
twitter Really, you think M$ is telling the truth this time? Oct 08 04:17
pombat42 nope…they lie Oct 08 04:17
twitter Those are actors.  M$ would use stock films or computer animation if they could. Oct 08 04:18
pombat42 Doubtful they are actors. However, it is highly edited and if you watch carefully you can see that. Also they apple picked. Oct 08 04:19
twitter Apple picked … good words.  Remember the Apple Switcher, where they used stock photos for the fake blog? Oct 08 04:20
pombat42 IOW if you sit at the corner of Hollywood and Vine with a pile of poop on a plate, sooner or later someone will come along, eat some of it and claim it taste wonderful Oct 08 04:20
schestowitz Cherry pick? Oct 08 04:20
pombat42 re:Apple/..Yes I remeber that one! Oct 08 04:20
schestowitz twitter: it was a testimonial, not blog, IIRC. Oct 08 04:20
pombat42 I like to be different :) Oct 08 04:20
twitter it was totally fake Oct 08 04:21
pombat42 yep Oct 08 04:21
pombat42 They also use fake camera shots of the iPhone. If you freeze the commercial you will see it mentioned at the bottom of the screen Oct 08 04:21
twitter M$ hates what people really thinks and goes to great lengths to brain wash/shut them up. Oct 08 04:22
pombat42 I will say the iPhone does work pretty much as advertised. Overpriced though. Oct 08 04:22
twitter The new Vista ads.  the guy in a shark cage, “I’m a PC” …  none of those are actors, right?  Ha ha ha ha. Oct 08 04:24
twitter The stero type dude, he really dresses like the PC guy every day, and he was really angry that he looked like the PC Guy.  Yeah. Oct 08 04:25
twitter Him and his early 90′s suit from the thrift store – not dreamed up for a $300 million ad campaign, something spontaneous, grass roots even. Oct 08 04:27
twitter fail Oct 08 04:27
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/30/w… Oct 08 04:28
twitter Novell, morally compatible with M$. Oct 08 04:28
schestowitz Someone asks you a Q: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/07/novell… Oct 08 04:29
twitter I’m not going for it.  Part of showing up the assholes is how much effort they put into tracking me down, a form of targeted harassment.  Answering a question like that would be an admission of which accounts are mine. Oct 08 04:33
schestowitz Stop using mutiple accounts. Oct 08 04:34
schestowitz Stick with one, neglect the rest. You give them ammunition by playing their tricks. Oct 08 04:35
twitter What and be limited to two posts a day? Oct 08 04:35
twitter or less? Oct 08 04:35
twitter let them have the site without effort? Oct 08 04:35
schestowitz Let the Dot rest. Oct 08 04:36
schestowitz It’s F*ed Oct 08 04:36
twitter they won’t quit beating me with it even if I do quit. Oct 08 04:36
twitter If Slashdot is fucked, what I do does not matter. Oct 08 04:36
twitter I like to make them work hard and look like the hired guns they are. Oct 08 04:37
twitter It proves the site is Astroturfed to hell and back and should not be trusted. Oct 08 04:37
twitter At least the comments. Oct 08 04:37
schestowitz Don’t play with them. Oct 08 04:37
schestowitz If you wrestle with a pig, you’re both in the mug. Only the pig enjoys it. Oct 08 04:38
schestowitz There are Microsoft shills at least 2 in this IRC channel, but I can’t tell which. Oct 08 04:38
twitter Pig meat tastes good. Oct 08 04:38
schestowitz Either way, they also track other sites like Digg, BN, things like USENET and try to dig up dirt. Oct 08 04:38
schestowitz Don’t go to places where they can shovel up dirt and spread libe. Oct 08 04:39
schestowitz *libel Oct 08 04:39
twitter Those assholes say bad things about Richard Stallman.  Is there a more innocent person on the planet? Oct 08 04:39
schestowitz They can also dpreas lies independently, in isolation, gives a manufactured debate. Oct 08 04:39
schestowitz As in, one troll starts some slader and others join in to say “yes, it’s true.” Oct 08 04:40
schestowitz Always some anonymous Munchkins when it comes to slander because they can get sued. Oct 08 04:40
schestowitz twitter: Stallman says a lot of stuff (truth) that scared a lot of people with $$ Oct 08 04:40
twitter Yes, but all of it was true and he did nothing wrong. Oct 08 04:41
schestowitz The other day I found an article where he is repeatedly described as “controversial”. Oct 08 04:41
schestowitz What does that word even /mean/? Oct 08 04:41
schestowitz That he’s eccentric, that he’s wrong? Either way, it rings a bad bell. Oct 08 04:41
twitter No matter what you do, the trolls are going to come for you because they want you to shut up and for people to think you are crazy. Oct 08 04:42
schestowitz People who know me know that they lie. Oct 08 04:42
schestowitz They actually do a disservice there because they get people more curious about me. Oct 08 04:42
twitter I’m not going to let them tell me what to do.  They seek to discredit me no matter what I do and they will make shit up in any case. Oct 08 04:42
schestowitz I find that many people just Google my name and end up in my site. Oct 08 04:42
schestowitz They then read my own stories, without the libel. Oct 08 04:43
twitter Well, there you go. Oct 08 04:43
schestowitz The worst you can do is feed them. Oct 08 04:44
schestowitz Let them talk among themselves and save the time for something better. Oh! And please drop these multiple accounts. Oct 08 04:45
twitter No, the worst I can do is what they want.  I could shut up and l leave them in peace. Oct 08 04:45
schestowitz They want you to talk about people, not about ideas. Oct 08 04:46
schestowitz Don’t spend (waste) time occupying your mind with details like the dunces that jump for $$. Just write about ideas. Oct 08 04:47
twitter They don’t care what is talked about, as long as it’s harmful to free software. Oct 08 04:47
twitter I can’t write anything while they have me mod bombed. Oct 08 04:47
twitter I’m essentially invisible. Oct 08 04:48
schestowitz Same in Digg for me. Oct 08 04:48
schestowitz I have 4 people who mod down all my comments and mod up the slander against me. Oct 08 04:48
twitter And of course, I never want to talk about myself.  That puts the conversation away from ideas and all the way back to personal defense.  I don’t want to be there. Oct 08 04:48
schestowitz So to the audience it seems like I must have said something bad and someone who slanderously claims that I’m a paid shill or something gets +4 mode points, thus seen as credible. Oct 08 04:49
schestowitz These are criminals. Oct 08 04:49
schestowitz Criminals will be criminals like boys will be boys. Oct 08 04:49
twitter You don’t know how many people mod you.  You just know that some PR firm has targeted you.  Yes they are criminals. Oct 08 04:49
schestowitz At the end they lose though. Oct 08 04:49
schestowitz And some go to prison (at least in the EU it’s against the law) Oct 08 04:50
twitter No they don’t lose, you have been silenced.  We will see if they end up in jail. Oct 08 04:50
schestowitz twitter: I know how many if I look at patterns. Oct 08 04:50
schestowitz If I leave 10 comments in a couple of hours and every comment is at -4, then it’s traceable. Oct 08 04:50
schestowitz Hold on. Oct 08 04:50
twitter pattern are faked Oct 08 04:50
schestowitz See the screenshot here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0… Oct 08 04:51
schestowitz See how all the negative mod points for my adjacent comments (different threads) are -4? Oct 08 04:51
schestowitz That’s because the same trolls (some also occupy USENET, if not all) do this to thousands of my comments. Oct 08 04:51
schestowitz I keep them busy and they probably get paid for gagging me Oct 08 04:52
schestowitz They don’t rotate and police (partol) Digg every 2 hours out of genuine fun. Not for several months. Oct 08 04:52
schestowitz Mary Jo Foley has already told me about what Microsoft calls “buddies”. It assigns people to people whom it ‘monitors’. Oct 08 04:53
twitter Whole companies offer this “service” like Perens said.  They strike 24 hours a day, like they take shifts. Oct 08 04:54
twitter or have bots. Oct 08 04:55
schestowitz I posted those comments from Perens. Oct 08 04:55
twitter Yes, I saw that. Oct 08 04:55
schestowitz Those marketing people need to be locked up Oct 08 04:55
schestowitz They beatify what they do. Oct 08 04:56
twitter Found the quotes in the Firehose, of all places. Oct 08 04:56
twitter Perens was replying to this duchebag Blakely Rat, seen here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=63366… denying Peter Gutmann’s findings and DRM in Vista. Oct 08 05:00
schestowitz Sounds like a fake name Oct 08 05:00
twitter just another Slashdot handle Oct 08 05:01
twitter he’s been obnoxious for years but I’ve never had the time to write him up. Oct 08 05:02
twitter The above comment on Vista DRM earned him a place in my troll zoo. Oct 08 05:02
twitter The trolls have hundreds if not thousands of other names to chose from. Oct 08 05:03
twitter Slashdot reported once that M$ was buying up low numbered accounts.  Pathetic, isn’t it? Oct 08 05:03
schestowitz Got a link to it? Oct 08 05:05
twitter Let me look. Oct 08 05:05
twitter here’s where cmdrtaco made fun of the concept with a charity auction http://meta.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=… Oct 08 05:10
schestowitz I’m going to bed now. Iff you find the proof of Microsoft buying accounts, please pass it on so I can share in some plces. Oct 08 05:12
twitter good night, I’m not sure this is worth the effort. Oct 08 05:18
pombat42 Twitter: people know exacttly who you are. It’s no secret. The best you can do is stick to one nym. Oct 08 05:37
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MinceR r4wr Oct 08 08:06
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schestowitz The Register very late to the punch: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/07/… Oct 08 09:38
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schestowitz Microsoft’s Magalhães Laptops Scam and OOXML Scandals in Portugal Associated with Fraud? : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/08… Oct 08 10:56
schestowitz Apple’s Brick http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/oct… Oct 08 11:10
guest0121 Roy I have a question Oct 08 11:10
MinceR i thought they had a brick already Oct 08 11:12
guest0121 have you been using a bot to flood COLA with ~50,000+ posts, or do you do it all by hand? Oct 08 11:13
MinceR but i guess you can never have too many products with apple logos that can’t even boot Oct 08 11:13
schestowitz guest0121: first of all, it’s not a flood because I spent thousands of hours writing themcarefully myself. Oct 08 11:14
*guest0121 is now known as al_b Oct 08 11:14
al_b that answers my question, thankyou Oct 08 11:14
schestowitz And no, there’s no bot at all. As i stated publicly many time, I read many RSS feeds and pick a few reports that I like for posting later. Oct 08 11:14
al_b good night all Oct 08 11:15
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schestowitz In the past I posted them as soon as I found them, but I couldn’t bring together related new reports that way/. Oct 08 11:15
schestowitz MinceR: the name of the product sounds like a joke… humouring at their own expense. Oct 08 11:16
MinceR i think they don’t realize the irony Oct 08 11:17
MinceR after all, how could an apple cultist admit even to himself that apple products aren’t perfect? Oct 08 11:18
schestowitz In the news this morning: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/… “Ipod doomed says Wozniak [... ] He said that punters were not getting all they want when companies are proprietary and lock their products down. He said he would like to write some more powerful apps for the Iphone than you’re allowed. “ Oct 08 11:23
MinceR wow, sudden change of mind Oct 08 11:24
MinceR woz suddenly isn’t fond of the proprietary lock-down moneygrubbing scheme the moment he’s affected negatively? Oct 08 11:25
MinceR what a selfish jerk. Oct 08 11:25
schestowitz Well, it’s not the first time. Oct 08 11:26
schestowitz http://inquirer.stanford.edu/2005/… Oct 08 11:26
schestowitz The link is broken now (maybe in the Web Archive), but it used to say: Oct 08 11:26
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schestowitz Woz :””It’s very much like that, but sometimes the engineers are – yeah, no, I think it’s very similar, very similar. Sometimes the engineers are true artists and really care what they’re doing, doing a really great job. Although, I don’t know how much I can even say that because the big companies, Microsoft, Apple and AOL, they tend to turn out the crappiest products, you know, software-wise.” Oct 08 11:27
schestowitz “The ones that have the most bugs, the most items that are supposedly in there but don’t work. The most things that are left out because they aren’t finished. The most things that are inconsistent with the way they did their last program. I get the worst, worst software almost always from Apple.” Oct 08 11:27
schestowitz No watches: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.stanford.e… Oct 08 11:28
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schestowitz http://forums.macrumors.com… and http://mac360.com/index.php/mac360/com… discuss it. Oct 08 11:29
MinceR so he keeps changing his opinion Oct 08 11:29
MinceR http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inqui… Oct 08 11:29
schestowitz No, he like open source for technical merits (like BSD), not for freedom, as far as I can tell. Oct 08 11:30
schestowitz *likes Oct 08 11:30
schestowitz [obs: sys-con is still bombarding Google News with an arbitrary list of company names. Still an unethical tabloid, I gather.] Oct 08 11:31
MinceR so he doesn’t believe in profiting from quality products but he still demands profit and quality products Oct 08 11:31
MinceR i wonder how that adds up Oct 08 11:32
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trmanco http://uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/lin… Oct 08 12:38
trmanco http://www.google.com/search?q=e… Oct 08 12:38
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schestowitz I remembered this thread. Oct 08 12:49
schestowitz I think GPL put it up in 2006 or 2007. Oct 08 12:49
schestowitz *GL Oct 08 12:50
trmanco Oct 08 12:51
trmanco I’m getting pissed of with this sh*t Oct 08 12:51
trmanco off* Oct 08 12:51
trmanco “Linus didn’t say that. Oct 08 12:53
trmanco A boob on Schestowitz’s IRC channel said that. “ Oct 08 12:53
schestowitz Can’t compete? But some new laws. Oct 08 12:53
trmanco http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advoca… Oct 08 12:53
trmanco no not the tux3 thing Oct 08 12:53
schestowitz Ah… that’s a Microsoft shill, Gary M Stewart. Oct 08 12:54
schestowitz Maybe he’ll be taken to jail some day. Oct 08 12:54
trmanco yes Oct 08 12:54
schestowitz AstroTurfing is not a crime in the US though. Oct 08 12:54
schestowitz AFAIK. Oct 08 12:54
trmanco the boob he is referring to is me, I think Oct 08 12:54
schestowitz His libel of me, hoever, is very serious crime, not to mention identity theft. Oct 08 12:54
schestowitz Gary has an obsession with genitalia and bodyparts. He uses that to repel readers. Oct 08 12:55
trmanco lol Oct 08 12:55
schestowitz I hear that Microsoft et al also use a lot of sick content and imagery to repel people who read Slashdot or even blasklist the domain. Oct 08 12:56
schestowitz *lacklist Oct 08 12:56
trmanco http://www.junauza.com/2008/07/12… Oct 08 12:57
schestowitz See this news http://news.northxsouth.com/2008/10/06/v… , then http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/08/m… Oct 08 13:00
schestowitz Wherever Microsoft moves there appears to be some scam. (Nigeria for example… bribes against Mandriva) Oct 08 13:01
schestowitz trmanco: I posted this Jun link the other day Oct 08 13:01
trmanco on usenet? Oct 08 13:01
trmanco lol Oct 08 13:04
trmanco *arguidos* Oct 08 13:04
schestowitz No, in BN Oct 08 13:05
trmanco the English word is “under my tongue” Oct 08 13:05
trmanco ok Oct 08 13:05
trmanco grrr Oct 08 13:06
schestowitz What? Oct 08 13:06
trmanco IMHO I really hate those stupid magalhães laptops Oct 08 13:06
schestowitz I left a comment in Linux Today. Oct 08 13:06
trmanco what are 10 year olds going to do with a computer Oct 08 13:07
schestowitz Magalhães =money-washing  scheme, Windows addition Oct 08 13:07
trmanco watch porn? Oct 08 13:07
schestowitz *addication Oct 08 13:07
trmanco yes Oct 08 13:07
schestowitz *addiction Oct 08 13:07
schestowitz That’s what happened in Nigeria Oct 08 13:07
trmanco that is not the only M$hit money washing scheme in portugal Oct 08 13:07
schestowitz http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/nige… Oct 08 13:08
trmanco there is another program Oct 08 13:08
trmanco called E-escolas Oct 08 13:08
trmanco which enables students from 6th to 12th grade to but laptops running ** for 250€ with internet Oct 08 13:09
trmanco 95% of those laptop models come with Windblows Vispa Oct 08 13:10
trmanco and office 2007 Oct 08 13:10
trmanco and I have heard today that the government is going to expand this program to university students Oct 08 13:11
trmanco but I don’t remember where I have read it Oct 08 13:11
schestowitz They don’t understand what they do. Oct 08 13:11
schestowitz They just see $$ and discounts. Oct 08 13:12
trmanco yes Oct 08 13:12
trmanco btw Oct 08 13:12
schestowitz Microsoft pretends they get a bargain and head of states happily let the kids become a prisoner of an abuser and their data locked in. Oct 08 13:12
schestowitz People ought to protest. Oct 08 13:12
trmanco its not 250€ its 150€ Oct 08 13:12
schestowitz Schools are typically the same, with Microsoft puppets like BECTA. Oct 08 13:12
trmanco there is a 6gb ram laptop model but it only comes with Linux Oct 08 13:13
trmanco good thing Oct 08 13:13
schestowitz All they know is Microsoft and they are not interesting in even /knowing/ about anything else. It’s the scientology-like culture a EU government delegate compared Microsoft to. Oct 08 13:13
trmanco but what I hear it that “I’ll but it, but then I will install vista on it” Oct 08 13:13
trmanco I’ll buy it* Oct 08 13:14
trmanco *a pirated version of vista* Oct 08 13:14
trmanco I hear this from my colleagues at school Oct 08 13:14
trmanco or comments like “the problem with that 6GB laptop is that it comes with linux” Oct 08 13:15
schestowitz If their schools only teaches them WIndows…. Oct 08 13:15
trmanco this laptop model it the best in that e-escolas program Oct 08 13:15
trmanco yes the do 99% of the time Oct 08 13:15
schestowitz It’s the illusion of choice sometimes. Oct 08 13:15
schestowitz Microsoft is willing to lose money just to ensure the Linux laptops remain less attractive. Oct 08 13:16
schestowitz The European COmmission lost its way some time ago, so there’s not much hope for policing. Oct 08 13:16
schestowitz In  this world you have people who police things like parking tickets, but they fail to put in jail the fraudsters responsible for the financial collapse, the criminals among Microsoft employees (well, recently they finally jailed one for fraud) and they also let BT go on spying on Internet users. Oct 08 13:17
trmanco some of my colleagues at school *they are not true friends, just simples friends*, if you know what I mean… they harass me just because most of the times I refuse to use windows and boot in with a linux distro Oct 08 13:18
schestowitz The police is controlled by those who pay the $$, be it Hollywood or whatever, which is why it typically responds to unimportant ‘crime’ that favours monopolies while letting rich criminals roam the Savannah. Oct 08 13:18
trmanco yes for sure Oct 08 13:19
trmanco that also happens a lot here in soccer :P Oct 08 13:19
schestowitz At least you are given choice. Too many in the procurement process (for education) are etther too lazy or corrupt. They want the status quo even if Vista is a total disaster, according to everyone. Oct 08 13:19
trmanco it is a disaster Oct 08 13:20
trmanco 80% of my school mates bought a vista pc and switched back to xp (pirated in most cases) Oct 08 13:20
trmanco even one of my teachers switched back to XP over vista Oct 08 13:21
trmanco *about 80%* Oct 08 13:21
trmanco some of them won’t install XP because there are no working drivers for it Oct 08 13:22
trmanco so they sort of get locked with vista Oct 08 13:22
trmanco and have no other choice but vista in the windows world Oct 08 13:22
schestowitz It’s a forced upgrade treadmill. Oct 08 13:23
schestowitz That should be made illegal or enforced if it is already illegal. Oct 08 13:23
schestowitz In Holland I think they took formal action against VIsta. Oct 08 13:23
trmanco well Holland is a much more advanced country than portugal Oct 08 13:24
trmanco they know what is really good and bad for there economy Oct 08 13:24
trmanco here in Portugal all the government sees is $$ or in this case €€€ Oct 08 13:25
schestowitz http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21050/1148// “If GNU/Linux netbooks were outselling Windows netbooks at a ratio greater than 4:1 then that means that they are outselling Windows netbooks despite the rate of returns.” Oct 08 13:30
schestowitz I guess Canonical contradicts this by now. Oct 08 13:30
trmanco good article Oct 08 13:33
twitter I don’t like the terms “luser” and “consumer”. Oct 08 13:43
twitter companies have customers Oct 08 13:43
twitter software has users Oct 08 13:43
schestowitz I fell so much behind the news. Oct 08 13:43
schestowitz In USENET, I’ve posted very little recently because I’m cashing comments in BN Oct 08 13:44
twitter Cashing? Oct 08 13:44
schestowitz Some recent posts like the one about the BBC getting MS insiders are getting lots of attention. Something like 10,000 page views 0-9AM. It’s reassuring to know that people get exposed to how corrupt the system is and help enhance this knowledge using feedback (comments). Oct 08 13:45
schestowitz Catching. Oct 08 13:45
schestowitz That was a typo Oct 08 13:45
twitter :) The MSI story stinks, no typo there. Oct 08 13:45
schestowitz With like 100 comments in one day I want to also response, not just read. Oct 08 13:45
schestowitz And yesterday there was a lot about Novell’s YouTube ‘marketing’. Oct 08 13:46
twitter amazing what a few hired guns can do, isn’t it? Oct 08 13:46
twitter I saw some of it. Oct 08 13:46
schestowitz Some new ‘nyms’ showed up and I needed to catch up with their attacks on the message/r Oct 08 13:46
twitter Yeah, I saw a lot of that too.  :) Oct 08 13:47
schestowitz The thing is, if I take my eyes off the comments, a discussion sometimes develops that vilifies me without giving me the space/change to defend myself or remove the FUD. Oct 08 13:47
schestowitz “Remove” as in point at the false claim and debunk it. Oct 08 13:47
schestowitz Like O’Brian’s attempt to associate me with nymshifter like yourself (please stop it!). Oct 08 13:48
twitter After some thought, I’ve decided to keep using multiple accounts on Slashdot.  Trolls have gamed the system to strip me of my rights and disrupt conversation. I will use the tools I have available to keep my rights and continue to share. Oct 08 13:48
twitter Let’s not talk about that any more, it is a waste of time. Oct 08 13:48
twitter It is better to talk about how evil it is to cooperate with M$. Oct 08 13:49
schestowitz twitter: you make the /. zoo more of a zoo. Oct 08 13:49
schestowitz You put a show on both sides and make it a mockery of the site. Oct 08 13:49
twitter You are going in circles. Oct 08 13:50
schestowitz Ouch. http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/10/0… Oct 08 13:50
twitter Others made a mockery of the site when they censored me. Oct 08 13:50
schestowitz “I have thought about my role at Sun and decided that I am better off in smaller organisations.” Oct 08 13:50
schestowitz “I HATE all the rules that I need to follow, and I also HATE breaking them. It would be far better for me to ‘retire’ from employment and work with MySQL and Sun on a less formal basis.” Oct 08 13:51
schestowitz There goes down the bin Sun’s attempt to buy the M in LAMP Oct 08 13:51
schestowitz Not the first defection/ditch Oct 08 13:51
schestowitz Sun should release MySQL back to ‘the wild’ ;-) Oct 08 13:52
schestowitz Oi!!! “A well-known hedge-fund manager has hit out at Microsoft’s “overaggressive and almost panicky” attempts to plump up its online investments.” Oct 08 13:53
schestowitz Famed investor backs away from web-obsessed Microsoft http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/da… Oct 08 13:53
schestowitz “Meanwhile, Microsoft shares have tanked over the past few weeks forcing Ballmer to admit on his recent tour of Europe that no one was safe from the dollar meltdown on Wall Street.” Oct 08 13:54
twitter Sad to hear about a free software advocate leaving Sun. Oct 08 13:55
twitter Especially one with so many years of experience. Oct 08 13:55
twitter Watch out for that SVI site, that’s the Slate/MSN stock manipulator’s site. Oct 08 13:56
schestowitz Sun fell sharply. Oct 08 13:57
twitter What he says here looks reasonable but … it’s also freaking obvious as usual. Oct 08 13:58
schestowitz http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=JAVA… Oct 08 13:58
schestowitz Toggle 3M. Oct 08 13:58
twitter Einhorn on the other hand, ha ha M$, the money dudes have figured out what a dog you are. Oct 08 13:59
twitter Overall a good story …. Oct 08 14:02
schestowitz It’s pretty stable so far in today’s trading, but there’s no rebound. Oct 08 14:06
schestowitz Big tumbles, following by “dead cat bouncing” Oct 08 14:06
twitter Looking at it again, Einhorn has not figured things out yet.  He still thinks M$ is good at software. Oct 08 14:07
schestowitz You left out the word “buying” Oct 08 14:10
schestowitz As in “buying software” Oct 08 14:10
schestowitz Arno Edelmann, Microsoft’s European business security product manager: “Usually Microsoft doesn’t develop products, we buy products. It’s not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing.” < http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,100… > Oct 08 14:11
twitter Black box.  Money and people go in, shit comes out.  The details are sometimes amusing but you don’t want the end product. Oct 08 14:27
twitter Holy crap, they deleted Outlook’s files and database as malware?  That’s like all of your mail, contacts and scheduling if you are dumb enough to use it. Oct 08 14:30
twitter LOL Oct 08 14:30
twitter unbelievable, one of the fixes is to buy a new exchange server… Oct 08 14:38
schestowitz “On a related note, Slate looks at the pros and cons of the Google-Yahoo deal — with an emphasis on the cons. The article quotes Microsoft attorney Brad Smith, who shared his company’s objections” http://searchengineland.com/searchbiz-14965.php Oct 08 14:51
schestowitz Taking on Twitter with open source software http://www.builderau.com.au/strategy/busines… Oct 08 14:54
schestowitz Slate = Microsoft -owned. Attacked the deal, as expected. Microsoft’s own pres.. gotta buy some more papers to shape public perception and poison mind against Google. Oct 08 14:55
twitter blatant isn’t it? Oct 08 14:56
twitter that’s all they have to offer now, smears and crap that does not work. Oct 08 14:57
twitter Gee, sorry about deleting your email, calendar and contacts while protecting you from malware.  We’re not very good at security, why don’t you upgrade your mail server?  This kind of thing does not happen as often with our new software. Oct 08 14:59
twitter Dat’s some nice email you got there…. better buy some up to date protection, drool. Oct 08 15:00
schestowitz The s/w is not modular in Windows. They don’t test it properly/exhaustively as a result. Oct 08 15:00
twitter “Buy the new version” has been their stock answer to all their cock ups for more than a decade.  It makes you think the cock ups are intentional. Oct 08 15:02
schestowitz They tested the software… but only with Microsoft Exchange. Just as they ‘test’ their Web sites, with Internet Explorer and Microsoft Windows onlu. Oct 08 15:02
twitter The other day, I installed DOS 6.x for fun.  It had all the same assurances about viruses and backups they have today.  The best solution is to dump all of their stuff. Oct 08 15:03
twitter Non free software can never be trusted. Oct 08 15:04
twitter Free software needs no trust, you have the source as proof. Oct 08 15:04
twitter It’s amazing how much more worthy of trust your neighbors in the free software community are than those at M$ and other non free software companies. Oct 08 15:05
twitter Yet trust is what non free software always demands. Oct 08 15:06
twitter Blind trust. Oct 08 15:06
schestowitz Microsoft coders tried to put their own back door in the software. Oct 08 15:09
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schestowitz http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/… “Microsoft may have inadvertently disclosed a potential Microsoft backdoor for law enforcement earlier this week.” Oct 08 15:20
AVRS2 http://www.nixp.ru/news/9318 – a refutation article for the “Russian post gives up on GNU/Linux” rumors. Oct 08 15:24
AVRS2 *Post Oct 08 15:24
AVRS2 That is, another one based on words by a Red Hat’s partner. Oct 08 15:25
schestowitz Do what do you think is the truth? Oct 08 15:27
schestowitz I see nothing about it in English-speaking feeds, so it might be an unconfirmed rumour. Oct 08 15:28
AVRS2 What truth? Oct 08 15:28
AVRS2 OK, it’s no use mentioning it here, because it’s been mentioned here already, and that article is there just because it hasn’t on that site… Oct 08 15:29
AVRS2 The company LinuxCenter (GNU/LinuxCenter) started taking pre-orders for Neo FreeRunner in Russia. Oct 08 15:32
AVRS2 http://www.linuxcenter.ru/shop/embedded… Oct 08 15:32
schestowitz It sells well in education, I think. Oct 08 15:36
schestowitz It’s also used to build mobile hackable appliances. It’s the hardware people pay for and about 9 distros for it already exist. Oct 08 15:37
schestowitz Linux XP could make an OpenMoko-targeted derivative. You can’t accept calls under you punch in an activation code. Oct 08 15:38
AVRS2 On that newsworldwide article: the reporting feature is mentioned at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891716 since 2005 (according to web.archive.org) with disabling instructions, and in the EULA (according to Wikipedia). Oct 08 15:49
twitter new lows of another kind http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:MSFT Oct 08 15:51
twitter asian markets took it yesterday, 10% losses http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/as… Oct 08 15:52
schestowitz Hold gee……. Oct 08 15:53
schestowitz *holy… 22.x Oct 08 15:53
schestowitz That’s almost the lowest in 10 years. Oct 08 15:54
MinceR once again, jobs tries to patent something he didn’t invent Oct 08 15:56
MinceR http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid… Oct 08 15:56
schestowitz It’s also a Sun thing, no? Oct 08 15:58
schestowitz And the shadows… yeah… innovation… shadows… Apple is a follower in many regards, but it’s very naughty when it comes to swpats. Oct 08 15:59
MinceR Arthur had one Oct 08 16:00
MinceR without the stupid zoom effect, of course Oct 08 16:00
MinceR but if anyone tries to tell me that graphical effect is the point of the whole thing, i’ll laugh at him Oct 08 16:02
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_Doug Hi all .. :) Oct 08 17:25
_Doug www.voicesforinnovation.org .. Admin Organization: Microsoft Corporation … ;) Oct 08 17:25
_Doug “VFI is a network .. dedicated to supporting public policies that promote choice, innovation, and ..” Oct 08 17:27
schestowitz Shill arm Oct 08 17:27
zoobab promote patents, vendor lock-in, etc.. Oct 08 17:27
schestowitz Microsoft has many of them. Oct 08 17:27
schestowitz There should be a law with prison sentence for such AstroTurf. Oct 08 17:28
_Doug up is down, black is white … Oct 08 17:28
schestowitz I think there is one in the EU, but it applies to other things. Oct 08 17:28
schestowitz Like fake blogs and fake reviews. Oct 08 17:28
_Doug Who won last night Obama or the old why dude ? Oct 08 17:29
_Doug white Oct 08 17:29
schestowitz Some people still wonder why “people are obssessed with Microsoft” and “how Microsoft sabotages Free software.” Oct 08 17:29
_Doug Microsoft is just a euphenism for a particular way of doing business Oct 08 17:29
_Doug They are better at it than most of the rest .. Oct 08 17:30
_Doug a big shout out to Chandler, USA … Oct 08 17:31
schestowitz Why INNOVA~1 when you can just say “innovation” when only attacking competitors. Oct 08 17:31
_Doug “With the support of Microsoft, VFI members educate thought leaders and elected officials about new technologies “ Oct 08 17:32
_Doug translation: ? Oct 08 17:32
schestowitz Why reduce tax and please voters when you can launch smear campaigns against the other candidate? Oct 08 17:32
schestowitz _Doug: what it that? We ought to study who’s involved in this anti-FOSS EU-based orgy. Oct 08 17:32
_Doug I can’t watch it .. don’t have Silverlight™ Oct 08 17:33
_Doug https://www.voicesforinnovation.org/ Oct 08 17:33
_Doug VFI ? we don’t need to guess .. Oct 08 17:34
_Doug “Interoperability Principles – English UK” Oct 08 17:34
_Doug “Over the past few weeks radical elements in the open source community have intensified their efforts “ Oct 08 17:36
_Doug https://www.voicesforinnovation.org/News/VFI… Oct 08 17:36
schestowitz “Radical”? Oct 08 17:37
_Doug radical, yea it’s those commie Linux users again .. sounds like drug users if you ask me :) Oct 08 17:37
_Doug follow the link :) Oct 08 17:37
schestowitz Jim Allchin, Platform Group Vice President (Microsoft): “We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger….If you’re going to kill someone, there isn’t much reason to get all worked up about it and angry. You just pull the trigger. Any discussions beforehand are a waste of time. We need to smile at Novell while we pull the trigger.” Oct 08 17:38
schestowitz Don’t forget Microsoft “Jihad” (its word for marketing): http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads… Oct 08 17:38
schestowitz Shill site. Oct 08 17:38
schestowitz No video Oct 08 17:38
schestowitz They probably send lots of E-mails for partners to sign up Oct 08 17:39
schestowitz They did similar AstroTurf for OOXML back in 2006 or early 2007. Oct 08 17:39
schestowitz Created ‘grassroots’ sites, then ‘invited’ ‘supporters’ to sign up and voice support. Oct 08 17:39
_Doug Remember all those shreaded documents in Caldera v MS .. that MS got newSCO to shread.. except IBM prevented it .. ? Oct 08 17:39
_Doug Well now MS wants to resurect the self same docs in Novell v MS .. Oct 08 17:40
_Doug http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?st… Oct 08 17:40
schestowitz http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-54… “In private a government delegate compared Microsoft’s public affairs methods with the scientology cult.” Oct 08 17:40
schestowitz _Doug: yes, I know. Oct 08 17:40
_Doug http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/… Oct 08 17:42
_Doug Why did SCO do this on behalf of their new ‘investor’ ? Oct 08 17:43
_Doug Will we now get to see what exactly MS were afraid of coming out in the open ? Oct 08 17:43
schestowitz _Doug: where did you find this link? I’m just curious. Oct 08 17:43
_Doug what link ? Oct 08 17:44
_Doug I keep detailed files, if you must know .. Oct 08 17:44
schestowitz The Register. Someone sent it to me 2 months ago saying it was the likely evidence of Microsoft playing with the SCO puppet. Oct 08 17:44
zoobab the problem with Microsoft is evidence Oct 08 17:45
_Doug I remember reading about it ..gtg .. later dude Oct 08 17:45
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schestowitz I mentioned it here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/20/ca… (at the bottom you see followup posts) Oct 08 17:45
zoobab to trace the Mafia, you need to use the criminal procedure Oct 08 17:45
schestowitz Which is that? Oct 08 17:45
zoobab seize of evidence Oct 08 17:46
zoobab like in the AMD Vs Intel case Oct 08 17:46
zoobab where the European Commission seized the Intel offices looking for evidence Oct 08 17:46
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schestowitz Yes, Intel bribes. Oct 08 17:47
schestowitz But the EC hardly enforced anything. Oct 08 17:47
schestowitz And whiny Otellini just cried “they’re anti-American” Oct 08 17:47
schestowitz Sometimes “anti-American” is code for “anti-corruption” Oct 08 17:47
schestowitz And ACT enforces this belief by attacking Kroes in public. Oct 08 17:48
zoobab do you have the video of ACT? Oct 08 17:48
zoobab when was that? Oct 08 17:48
zoobab I am looking for a video of Nelliee Kroes I had on my harddisk Oct 08 17:48
zoobab where she says she was for software patents Oct 08 17:49
zoobab I will dig in the archives Oct 08 17:49
zoobab it was last year after the 17 September announcement Oct 08 17:49
schestowitz Hold on. Oct 08 17:50
schestowitz I believe I have a video somewhere in BN where the ACT shills (and another) are shown talking. You know… the usual puppet in one of the ‘shell accounts’, led by the Jon Zuck shill. Oct 08 17:51
schestowitz Articles are easier to find though because of text indexing. Oct 08 17:51
schestowitz See if you can find a connection between any of the names from ACL+ACT to that new VoicesOfInnovation shell. Oct 08 17:52
schestowitz They just travel between ‘umbrellas’ whenever they get exposed for the shill the shell is. Oct 08 17:52
trmanco hehe Oct 08 18:31
trmanco good news for portugal Oct 08 18:31
trmanco http://tek.sapo.pt/opiniao/nos_ultimos_8_an… Oct 08 18:31
trmanco “Com uma visão muito marcada e definida sobre as vantagens do open source face ao software proprietário, Louis Suárez-Potts, coordenador mundial do desenvolvimento do OpenOffice.org está em Portugal para falar com o Governo sobre os projectos nas Escolas, e especialmente o Magalhães, que vai integrar a suite de produtividade na partição de Linux.” Oct 08 18:31
trmanco translated -> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=h… Oct 08 18:32
*schestowitz looks Oct 08 18:32
trmanco the first paragraph is interesting and it is what caught my attention Oct 08 18:34
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schestowitz “With a vision very marked and defined on the advantages of open source software against the owner, Louis Suarez-Potts, coordinator of the global development of OpenOffice.org is in Portugal to talk with the government on projects in schools, and the Magellan, which will integrate the suite of productivity in the partition of Linux. “ Oct 08 18:38
trmanco too bad I only got this news today Oct 08 18:40
trmanco or else I would have gone to Lisbon to see him :P Oct 08 18:40
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schestowitz zoobab: new comment in http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/10/wheres-rob.html “”There are several participants in SC34 who have had the stated goal of taking control of OOXML and ODF and maintaining them both in SC34 WG’s. They’ve been quite open about this plan. The problem is that they are planning a future for standards that they neither own nor control nor have technical expertise.” Oct 08 18:41
schestowitz trmanco: I saw him before. Oct 08 18:41
trmanco :P Oct 08 18:41
trmanco I wouldn’t mind driving 250KM to see him :P Oct 08 18:41
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cj *sigh* Oct 08 19:00
cj schestowitz: the reason I’m here, since you’re asking, and I’d prefer you ask me directly rather than make public accusations, is to facilitate a dialogue.  It seems to me that you’re not interested in such a dialogue.  If you aren’t interested in a rational, mature discussion, there is no reason for me to idle here. Oct 08 19:01
cj schestowitz: I think you proved to the Free Software community that you are a bigger man than they thought by removing the kick/ban.  Because of that, I’ve decided to stay in hopes of helping to bridge any gap that you may perceive. Oct 08 19:03
cj if instead, you prefer to make wild, unfounded accusations instead of sitting down to talk, there is no reason to keep the channel open, as it were. Oct 08 19:04
schestowitz I never banned or kicked. Oct 08 19:05
schestowitz And I removed it after [H]omer had done it, but didn’t realise how to do this properly. Oct 08 19:05
cj so.  tell me, do you want to communicate in a bi-directional arena like adults, or would you prefer to hurl insults and paranoia about topics you do not understand, but could learn about should you ask? Oct 08 19:05
cj As you know, I understand that you did not kick or ban. Oct 08 19:05
schestowitz [H]omer had temper. But either way, I’m busy writing right now about Microsoft admitting the hijack attempt of ODF. Oct 08 19:06
cj okay.  yes or no, should I stay and discuss topics of interest to the two of us, or should I go? Oct 08 19:07
twitter spill it cj. Oct 08 19:07
cj since schestowitz is the one insulting me publicly, I will let him make the decision, twitter. Oct 08 19:08
twitter he’ll kick you off if you troll anyway, nothing new there. Oct 08 19:09
twitter In other news, ” ) — American International Group Inc., the insurer that hosted a $440,000 event at a California resort less than a week after receiving an $85 billion federal loan, said it is “reevaluating” its costs a day after facing Congressional criticism for the trip.             “While this sort of gathering has been standard practice in our industry for many years and was planned many months before the Federal Reserve’s loan to AIG, we Oct 08 19:09
twitter standard practice?  Nice.  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid… Oct 08 19:10
cj are they saying “er, what we meant by ‘$440,000′ was ‘$440.00′.  honest rounding mistake.  won’t happen again”? :) Oct 08 19:10
twitter No, they say they are entitled to meetings at spas that cost the company nearly half a million dollars when they could have worked it all out over email. Oct 08 19:12
twitter Your tax dollars at work. Oct 08 19:13
cj twitter: come on.  pidgin doesn’t have webcam support, what do you expect them to do? Oct 08 19:13
twitter use the KDE client that does or Ekgia or any of the web phones on the market? Oct 08 19:13
cj twitter: p’shaw.  is there a windows version of ekiga? Oct 08 19:13
*cj ducks Oct 08 19:13
twitter I’m not sure what they use, they can obviously have anything they want. Oct 08 19:15
twitter They could be like John McCain, who’s never used email.  … that would explain their communications difficulties that have to be solved by physical travel. Oct 08 19:16
twitter If they had a clue, they would not want to share their plans and communications with M$ and other software owners. Oct 08 19:16
twitter Especially when they have so much to hide. Oct 08 19:17
cj twitter: s/physical travel/massages/ Oct 08 19:17
cj otr++, eh? Oct 08 19:17
twitter So what’s your beef cj? Oct 08 19:18
schestowitz MSFTers tries to “engage in a conversation” with BN. Hmmm… Oct 08 19:18
twitter Is he? Oct 08 19:18
cj well, being referred to as a “lurker,” “troll,” and “spy” for one, two and three. Oct 08 19:19
schestowitz Sometimes they invite people for spa Oct 08 19:19
schestowitz Ask Roblimo Oct 08 19:19
schestowitz Microsoft flew him over to a luxurious trip Oct 08 19:19
twitter So tell me cj, you work for M$? Oct 08 19:19
cj twitter: no.  I am a consultant to microsoft, not an employee. Oct 08 19:19
schestowitz He no longer is a “Microsoft doubter” as they call it. They bribed him with a good time. Oct 08 19:19
schestowitz Although he sometimes does criticise a bit, but not quite the same. Oct 08 19:19
twitter What do they pay you to do? Oct 08 19:19
cj schestowitz: oh?  does being a U.S. citizen make me no longer a “Bush doubter”? Oct 08 19:20
schestowitz he wrote about the Microsoft mafia just beforehand, IIRC. Oct 08 19:20
schestowitz Mafia = http://www.linux.com/articles/61481 Oct 08 19:20
schestowitz twitter: he’s paid. Oct 08 19:20
schestowitz That’s the bottom line. Oct 08 19:20
schestowitz It’s like working for Microsoft remotely. Oct 08 19:20
cj schestowitz: however, I don’t want to get into any conversations with you if you are just going to insult and mock me publicly.  I agree with you on many points. Oct 08 19:21
schestowitz The money flows from the Vole. Oct 08 19:21
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twitter I understand that, but a job description would be interesting. Oct 08 19:21
schestowitz cj: if you are willing to work for such a company, I believe it to be sad. Oct 08 19:21
schestowitz Sad, yet greedy. Oct 08 19:21
schestowitz I suppose I could work in an uranium refinement plant too… you know, for the ‘good’ of society. Oct 08 19:21
cj schestowitz: I respect your opinion.  Can you put that aside and have a rational conversation with me? Oct 08 19:22
cj I’m happy to agree to disagree where needed. Oct 08 19:22
schestowitz cj: you have conversations on behalf of your interests (employment). Oct 08 19:22
schestowitz Unless it’s about fishing or something, then it’s about Microsoft. Oct 08 19:22
twitter Cooperating with M$ is evil, there’s nothing irrational about saying that. Oct 08 19:22
schestowitz Watch what they did to Miguel, although he was poisoned from day 1 Oct 08 19:23
twitter Once again cj, what’s your beef? Oct 08 19:23
twitter What do you do for M$? Oct 08 19:24
cj schestowitz: so, are you interested in conversing?  can we agree to avoid slinging mud at one another? Oct 08 19:24
twitter still waiting Oct 08 19:25
cj twitter: I will get to that if schestowitz will agree to stop insulting me publicly Oct 08 19:25
cj schestowitz: I will, of course agree to the same. Oct 08 19:26
twitter what you do may deserve condemnation Oct 08 19:26
cj twitter: condemnation is fine.  calling names is not. Oct 08 19:27
cj anything that you say which can be backed up by fact is fair game.  insults to myself or my family is not. Oct 08 19:27
twitter that depends on how often you do bad things, I doubt anyone has mentioned anything about your family Oct 08 19:28
cj how about this:  tell me here if you think something I’ve done is “bad” Oct 08 19:28
twitter unless you are Sweaty B talking about “brainwashing” his kids.  even then the conversation is about how crazy B is. Oct 08 19:28
twitter I don’t know who you are or what you do. Oct 08 19:29
cj I’m happy to tell you so long as you agree to treat me as an adult and a fellow free software developer Oct 08 19:29
twitter You work for M$, that is bad.  Your level of guilt depends on your level of knowledge of how evil your employer is. Oct 08 19:29
cj twitter: fine.  so long as you’d say the same about my being a citizen of the united states. Oct 08 19:30
schestowitz WHOA Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz Insults? Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz Names? Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz ” insults to myself or my family is not.” Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz Not you’re just lying. Oct 08 19:31
twitter I can’t say that, it is easier to find another job than it is to leave your home and extended family. Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz Shame on you, cj. Oct 08 19:31
schestowitz *Now Oct 08 19:31
cj schestowitz: perhaps you do not understand the concept of “lie” Oct 08 19:31
cj how is telling you that it is not okay to insult me a lie? Oct 08 19:32
twitter this is a waste of time, cj.  Get to the point Oct 08 19:32
cj do you mean the implication that you may have done so before? Oct 08 19:32
twitter Normal people are honest.  You are proving otherwise. Oct 08 19:33
cj twitter: this is not a waste of time.  I am negotiating a standard of acceptable treatment. Oct 08 19:33
twitter Prior restraint without prior knowledge, how M$ like. Oct 08 19:33
cj twitter: if roy can not agree to treat me with dignity, there is no point in continuing to converse. Oct 08 19:34
twitter You have already broken your own restraints with false accusations and libel. Oct 08 19:34
cj twitter: examples? Oct 08 19:34
twitter You said that RS had said bad things about you and your family. Oct 08 19:35
cj twitter: quote me, please Oct 08 19:35
twitter It was a lie, even if you only implied it. Oct 08 19:35
twitter Promise not to beat your wife and kids and we can talk.  Hmph. Oct 08 19:35
cj twitter: it goes “if you agree to stop beating your wife and kids …” Oct 08 19:36
twitter get lost Oct 08 19:36
cj schestowitz: do you condone twitter’s statements? Oct 08 19:37
cj schestowitz: keep in mind that I mean no insult by anything I’ve said.  I respect your goals and will help you as I can. Oct 08 19:42
cj I ask only that we both agree to treat one another with respect from this point forward. Oct 08 19:42
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schestowitz Yes, I was accused of insulting a family (“insults to myself or my family is not”) Oct 08 19:46
schestowitz Anyway, let’s stop talking about people. It’s rubbish. ;-) Oct 08 19:46
cj please forgive me.  That is not what I intended. Oct 08 19:46
schestowitz I’m doing a post now about NOVL financial problems. Oct 08 19:47
schestowitz Microsoft’s attempted hijack of ODF has just had proof posted Oct 08 19:47
cj schestowitz: so, can we agree to treat one another with respect and agree that we will not insult or assume insult from one another? Oct 08 19:59
schestowitz Yes Oct 08 19:59
cj thanks. Oct 08 19:59
cj okay.  so the bits I wanted to share :) Oct 08 20:00
schestowitz I take your apology Oct 08 20:00
schestowitz it’s you who attacked me first Oct 08 20:00
schestowitz Smears in Free Software Daily and all… after Homer got angry at you. Oct 08 20:00
cj the same here.  I’m sorry for saying anything untoward.  I try to keep emotion out of such conversations, as it tends to only cause distrust and obfuscation of the important pieces. Oct 08 20:01
cj “being informed by Mono boosters, who are now intervening in a thread whose goal is to add or prevent the entry of Moonlight into Debian.” Oct 08 20:01
cj the intervention was being done by members of the team who were presenting moonlight for inclusion by debian Oct 08 20:02
cj you might also want to know that the previous DPL was pro-mono and in fact committed many patches to mono libraries and the supporting debian/ infrastructure Oct 08 20:02
cj I do not know the current DPL’s stance toward Mono Oct 08 20:03
cj however, since it is approved by RMS as a “Free Software” project and released under a license which complies with the OSL and (more importantly) the Debian FSG, I would be surprised if there was opposition. Oct 08 20:04
cj you asked why I paste links to such topics.  the reason is that I want to let #bn know about integration of these technologies into the F/OSS infrastructure.  You seem interested and you bring up points that shine a skeptical light on the process.  Although I do not believe that my friends on the Mono, Debian and GNOME development teams are trying to destroy the F/OSS community (quite to the contrary, in fact), I realize that it is good to have and communica Oct 08 20:07
cj “Jo Shields seems to be ignoring the fact that Debian lacks the prerequisite patent grant to distribute Moonlight. Only Novell has such a grant, which is something that is documented very clearly and unambiguously by both Microsoft and Miguel de Icaza.” Oct 08 20:10
cj Debian is by and large a non-U.S. entity, consisting for the most part of developers outside the jurisdiction of U.S. patent laws.  Jo (and more importantly, Mirco) in particular need not kow-tow to the patent scare. Oct 08 20:11
cj anyway, I’ve got to get back to work.  Cheers. Oct 08 20:12
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twitter That’s what M$ wanted to tell us, cj?  That mono should be deeply integrated into Gnome and Debian? Oct 08 21:00
zoobab Debian should request a patent license, just for legal certainty Oct 08 21:00
schestowitz Ideally be version 3.0 as de Icaza desired back in 2003. Oct 08 21:00
twitter thanks but no thanks. Oct 08 21:01
zoobab just for fun BN should request a patent license Oct 08 21:01
zoobab request it at iplg@microsoft.com Oct 08 21:02
zoobab say you resell Mono binaries, you need to have patent license Oct 08 21:02
zoobab and ask at the same time which US and EP patents covers Mono Oct 08 21:02
twitter M$ could grant everyone a license by releasing it and all of their software GPL3 themselves. Oct 08 21:03
zoobab nope Oct 08 21:03
twitter GPL3 has anti-patent language, no? Oct 08 21:03
zoobab forget about copyright, patent world is another dimension Oct 08 21:03
twitter M$ could also transfer their bogus patents to the FSF. Oct 08 21:04
twitter People might begin to trust them at that point. Oct 08 21:04
twitter and mono might start to look like a good idea instead of a trap. Oct 08 21:04
twitter As long as M$ denies users their software freedom, they can not be trusted. Oct 08 21:05
twitter M$ declared war on software freedom.  That war will only be over when M$ unconditionally surrenders. Oct 08 21:07
twitter The sooner they liberate their users the more customers they will be able to keep. Oct 08 21:08
twitter Complete ruin awaits them otherwise.  Every scheme they come up with to perpetuate their obsolete business model damages their reputation further. Oct 08 21:09
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AlbertoP hi Oct 08 21:19
twitter :) Oct 08 21:20
zoobab they can only win if nobody does anything against software patents Oct 08 21:20
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zoobab I want a judgment on the First Amendment and software patents Oct 08 21:21
*benJIman sees he has been upgraded to “Novell Spy” in schestowitz’s special version of reality. Oct 08 21:22
twitter there’s at least one judgment on business method patents on the way, if it has not already happened Oct 08 21:22
twitter do you work for Novell, benjie? Oct 08 21:22
benJIman No. Oct 08 21:22
AlbertoP no he does not ^^ Oct 08 21:22
twitter does anyone pay you to be here? Oct 08 21:23
benJIman Or maybe that’s what they want you to think ¬_¬ Oct 08 21:23
AlbertoP or maybe he does…in that special reality ^^ Oct 08 21:23
benJIman twitter: Yes, you’d be surprised how much people will pay you to sit in IRC channels. Oct 08 21:23
zoobab twitter: you cannot differenciate swpat and business method patents Oct 08 21:23
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twitter zoobab, that’s right Oct 08 21:23
zoobab I am gonna campaign against the EPO Oct 08 21:24
MinceR benJIman: it’s called astroturfing Oct 08 21:24
twitter Not after listening to Perens tell us about being offered such services while working at HP, Benjie Oct 08 21:24
twitter If you wish that you worked for Novell, you might have a few second thoughts.  http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:NOVL Oct 08 21:25
twitter and not wanting to work for the next SCO. Oct 08 21:26
benJIman Yes, Novell is the only company to have had their share price drop this week. Oct 08 21:26
twitter they are also not the only bad investment you could have made over the last ten years either. http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:MSFT Oct 08 21:27
twitter It’s like flushing money down a toilet that dumps shit back into your house.  :) Oct 08 21:27
twitter What’s that smell? Oct 08 21:28
twitter It’s Novell! Oct 08 21:28
twitter that was childish, I admit. Oct 08 21:28
schestowitz MSFT at $22.x again: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=msft Oct 08 21:30
schestowitz Microsoft will blame “piracy” in 2 weeks when the report comes. Oct 08 21:31
schestowitz If results are good, then it’s “despite the piracy”. If underwhelming, then “because of the piracy” Oct 08 21:31
MinceR yet they’d be dying much faster without piracy Oct 08 21:34
MinceR (and in their weaker moments they even admit it) Oct 08 21:34
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twitter This time, they are crying “it’s the economy” without admitting to their parasitic roll in that general economy.  Sweaty B was quoted the other day saying financial companies would have a hard time buying his software, boo hoo, pass the bail out money. Oct 08 21:37
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trmanco http://www.computerworlduk.com/commu… Oct 08 21:39
trmanco http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/softwa… Oct 08 21:44
twitter Nice collection of threads on BN today! Oct 08 21:45
AlbertoP twitter, no stock is going up ^^ Oct 08 21:51
schestowitz zoobab: I need Apple quotes on patents. Oct 08 21:51
AlbertoP I would say that for once it’s right that it depends on the economy, and you don’t need to be a Nobel to understand it Oct 08 21:51
schestowitz Any bad things they said about them? Oct 08 21:51
AVRS2 schestowitz: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/0… has no real link to the blog mentioned at the top. Oct 08 21:53
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AVRS2 Is it a Firefox issue that blockquote cite= doesn’t make a link? Oct 08 21:54
schestowitz AVRS2: I know. I linked to it yesterday, so the citation was near. I was lazy. Should I readd the link? Oct 08 21:56
AVRS2 schestowitz: well, might be useful, though I have already retrieved the link. Oct 08 21:57
schestowitz OK< fixed now. Oct 08 21:59
AVRS2 Thanks; are there Wikipedia-credible sources for that? Because I cannot link a comment from a random registered “Rob” the the blog. Oct 08 22:00
AVRS2 never mind Oct 08 22:00
schestowitz For SC34? Oct 08 22:01
AVRS2 Time to sleep; forgot that Blogger profiles have lists of blogs. Oct 08 22:01
AVRS2 But still, are there other sources? Oct 08 22:02
schestowitz Yes. Oct 08 22:03
schestowitz Following the links here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10… Oct 08 22:03
schestowitz Today’s update is about it coming almost from the horse’s month. Oct 08 22:04
AVRS2 OK, I actually haven’t misdescribed SC34 in Wikipedia. Oct 08 22:05
AVRS2 (I just said it is a sub-commitee of ISO/IEC JTC1, nothing more) Oct 08 22:06
AVRS2 Look at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedi… Oct 08 22:07
AVRS2 Is that written by hAl? Oct 08 22:07
AVRS2 *Has it been reworded by hAl? Oct 08 22:08
AVRS2 Maybe I am too sleepy for it too look good to me. Good night. Oct 08 22:08
*AlbertoP pats his faithful Geeko Oct 08 22:10
MinceR gn Oct 08 22:13
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schestowitz AVGR: hAl is a Microsoft shill. Oct 08 22:16
schestowitz Amazing. Microsoft AstroTurfers rewrite history. Oct 08 22:16
schestowitz Thry still plague Wikipedia. Oct 08 22:16
twitter That would not surprise me.  You should see how the APM and APCI articles have been mauled. Oct 08 22:19
schestowitz ACPI? Oct 08 22:20
AlbertoP who is the MS “spy”? Oct 08 22:22
twitter The wiki article is not so bad today http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Con… Oct 08 22:22
schestowitz It uses something I put in Digg last year. Oct 08 22:22
schestowitz Either way, Microsoft was caught before offering money for non-employees to change articles. Oct 08 22:23
twitter I blogged about this here http://slashdot.org/~twit… Oct 08 22:23
schestowitz IOW, it’s running a business around disinformation. Oct 08 22:23
AlbertoP cough Oct 08 22:23
twitter Perception management is the new term. Oct 08 22:24
twitter Lie is the old term. Oct 08 22:24
schestowitz You post got trolled by MS turfs. Oct 08 22:24
twitter Every post I make is trolled. Oct 08 22:25
schestowitz Or just some people who hate you enough to heckle, which I doubt Oct 08 22:25
schestowitz .So they try to pressure you out or insult you in public. Oct 08 22:25
schestowitz Typical Microsoft Munchkin tactic. Oct 08 22:25
twitter Notice the one that gloats about having censored me with mod bombing.  Nice. Oct 08 22:29
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schestowitz HP and EDS kill nearly 3,500 UK jobs : http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.c… Oct 08 22:29
schestowitz Slashdot zoo. Just leave it, don’t retaliate by abusing it like the Microsoft (and co.) Munchkins. Oct 08 22:30
schestowitz Oh noes. Look at this poll:  http://www.abclinuxu.cz/blog/Ablog/2008/10/kont… Oct 08 22:32
AlbertoP well, considering the highly scientific terminology, it is surely reliable no? Oct 08 22:36
schestowitz :-) Oct 08 22:37
schestowitz It’s bad and it’s insulting. Oct 08 22:37
AlbertoP and I’m surely not a Miguel fanboy… Oct 08 22:37
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schestowitz http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/mi… http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/investor… Oct 08 22:38
schestowitz IMG: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10060295-9… Oct 08 22:50
AlbertoP schestowitz, it’s useless to look at stocks these days and hope in some + ^_^ Oct 08 22:51
AlbertoP hopefully the dollar is improving a bit Oct 08 22:53
AlbertoP :P Oct 08 22:53
schestowitz http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/10/bad-news… Oct 08 22:57
schestowitz Yay! Copyrights: “Keene Valley resident Jerilea Zempel was detained at the U.S. border this summer because she had a drawing of a sport-utility vehicle in her sketchbook.” http://www.pressrepublican.com/hom… Oct 08 22:58
AlbertoP LOL Oct 08 23:01
AlbertoP by direct experience, she had probably something more than a sketch ^^ Oct 08 23:01
AlbertoP I’ve been travelling in US, and controls are serious but not so stupid Oct 08 23:01
AlbertoP but well, maybe the officer was not so smart either ^^ Oct 08 23:02
PetoKraus lol! Oct 08 23:10
AlbertoP Hmm look at kde4-NM of the future http://www.kdedevelopers.org/files/im… Oct 08 23:10
AlbertoP looks a bit horrible to me Oct 08 23:10
*PetoKraus np: Supertramp – Bloody Well Right (The Very Best of Supertramp) Oct 08 23:11
PetoKraus literally ^^ Oct 08 23:11
PetoKraus stuffing capable Oct 08 23:19
PetoKraus man, great sticker. want one. Oct 08 23:20
PetoKraus or, a dozen! Oct 08 23:20
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schestowitz Looks OK to mke. Oct 08 23:31
schestowitz *me. It’s a matter of taste Oct 08 23:31
schestowitz Beranger runs away to communism again.. :-S http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&a… Oct 08 23:36
schestowitz Hmmm… is LinuxToday stripping URLs now?  http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story…. http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_st… Oct 08 23:41
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jose__ a discussion article about yahoo-microsoft http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/arti… Oct 08 23:45
schestowitz jose__: I’ll repost my message. Oct 08 23:45
schestowitz Hmmm… is LinuxToday stripping URLs now?  http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=… http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?lt… Oct 08 23:45
schestowitz Microsoft is buying stock and going into debt. I doubt they need Yahoo! at times like these. Oct 08 23:46
jose__ Aol set mozilla into motion. I’m not sure what they could have in mind here. Oct 08 23:46
schestowitz There’s turbulence shaking many companies ATM. Oct 08 23:46
jose__ i hope not Oct 08 23:46
schestowitz jose__: If I embed links in LinuxToday as <a href=”blah”>blah</a>, should there be an issue? Oct 08 23:47
jose__ i hope so.. that they leave yahoo alone.. i understand what you mean about diverting funds to their stock Oct 08 23:47
jose__ i never embed links Oct 08 23:47
jose__ i just post them out Oct 08 23:47
schestowitz I think it’s the second time this happens. Oct 08 23:47
jose__ since carla took over there was a change Oct 08 23:47
schestowitz The last time too I thought the Brian had removed them. Oct 08 23:47
jose__ where urls now don’t cause text to run off to the right behind the adds Oct 08 23:48
schestowitz ads. They probably have lots of MS ads. Oct 08 23:48
schestowitz It’s hard to block them all (for an admin even). They come from many domains. Oct 08 23:48
schestowitz I think I should rethink how I read RSS. Oct 08 23:48
schestowitz Maybe you can offer advice. Oct 08 23:49
jose__ i don’t read rss Oct 08 23:49
schestowitz There’s just so much repetitive junk. Oct 08 23:49
jose__ blogs like this make life easier for me *sheepish grin* Oct 08 23:49
schestowitz I just want /news/, not discussions and ‘columns’ (like those Matt Hartley rambles). Oct 08 23:49
schestowitz There’s also like 10 different article for each major piece of breaking news. Oct 08 23:50
schestowitz I waste too much time wading through cr* Oct 08 23:50
schestowitz Time for change. Oct 08 23:50
schestowitz I should also focus more on BN Oct 08 23:50
schestowitz It’s driving like 20000+ pages today and is more important than some other things. Oct 08 23:51
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schestowitz I’ll probbably start just ‘cherry-picking’ feeds and items instead of exhaustively exploring them (putting them on zero) Oct 08 23:52
jose__ imagine an aol offer for yahoo at say $15 or a bit more but only after yahoo has dropped more.. Oct 08 23:55
jose__ this helps yahoo’s management and those that accumulate shares at the future new prices. Oct 08 23:55
jose__ mainstreet pays but yahoo ends up stronger down the line (within aol) Oct 08 23:55
jose__ and ceo’s and everyone else always make out with money.. and they avoid microsoft Oct 08 23:56
jose__ nothing against yahoo since this process probably applies to many deals.. that’s certainly what things have looked like recently Oct 08 23:56
schestowitz Microsoft pondered an AOL deal. Oct 08 23:57
jose__ $15 or less (15 was for illustration purposes since at least it is below the 20-ish resistance point now crossed).. maybe even below 10 come to think of it but maybe not or nothing at all remotely like this will happen. Oct 08 23:57
jose__ i worry about aol .. that’s why i mentioned it Oct 08 23:58
schestowitz http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/busin… Microsoft shifts its search to AOL Oct 08 23:58
jose__ they did buy out netscape and give mozilla 2 million Oct 08 23:58
schestowitz Google Gets 70% of U.S. Searches     -   http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente… Oct 08 23:58
schestowitz “But Google’s gain led to lower numbers for other search companies. Yahoo Inc. received 19.62% of U.S. searches in June, down from 21.31% last year, while MSN Search received 5.46%, down from 9.85% in June 2007.” Oct 08 23:58
jose__ the url is broken.. did you leave out something after the ending “.jp” Oct 08 23:59
jose__ the first link above Oct 08 23:59
jose__ wait Oct 08 23:59
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  1. Dan O'Brian said,

    October 9, 2008 at 9:31 am


    schestowitz I have 4 people who mod down all my comments and mod up the slander against me.

    Wow, 4. And all this time you’ve been telling us that it’s a major conspiracy over at Digg. 4!??? Seriously. 4????

    Get over yourself.

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    The whole 'unitary' scam/ploy (merely a Trojan horse for litigation and low-quality/invalid patents) is being promoted by Thierry Breton as EU Internal Market Commissioner (in spite of illegalities and constitutional issues), merely reinforcing the view that the EU is rather complicit in the abuses perpetrated by Team Battistelli; the media in the pockets of oligarchs and litigation firms (fronting for these oligarchs) plays along, as usual

  6. Links 28/5/2020: OpenSSH 8.3, New Mesa Release, Raspberry Pi 4 News, Fedora 32 Elections

    Links for the day

  7. The EPO Became a Very Radical Institution

    Projection tactics are doomed to say more about the people who utilise them than about anybody else; the EPO has become so autocratic and corrupt that corruption is seen as normal and workers who explain this corruption are framed as "irrational" or "crazy" or "radical"

  8. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 27, 2020

    IRC logs for Wednesday, May 27, 2020

  9. Allegations That Microsoft Will Ruin Besieged Clinics and Hospitals to Retaliate Against Those Who Name the Culprit

    With a broader picture coming into view, as per the above index, we're starting to wrap up the series while issuing a call for more stories and eyewitness testimonies, exposing the nature of attacks on hospitals (those almost always target Microsoft and others' proprietary software, which is technically unfit for purpose)

  10. Microsoft Has Ideas...

    Based on the pattern of media coverage, composed by Microsoft MVPs and Microsoft-affiliated blogs/sites, confusing the public about the meaning of GNU/Linux is reminiscent of an "Extend" phase

  11. ZDNet Proves Our Point by Doing Not a Single Article About Linux (RC7), Only About Linus and Windows Clickbait Junk

    It seems abundantly clear that nobody wants to cover the actual news about Linux and instead it’s all about which PC Linus Torvalds is using (gossip/tabloid); ZDNet‘s latest two articles are an example of this…

  12. UPC Lies That Make One Laugh...

    IP Kat and Bristows (overlaps exist) are still pretending that the UPC is coming because reality doesn’t seem to matter anymore, only self-serving agenda

  13. Canonical Continues to Help Promote Windows Instead of GNU/Linux or Ubuntu

    Thrice in the past week alone Canonical used the official “Ubuntu Blog” to help Microsoft instead of GNU/Linux and it is part of a disturbing trend which lends credibility to jokes or rumours about a Microsoft takeover; it's not like many people use this thing, either (Canonical helps Microsoft shore up a dying/languishing EEE attempt)

  14. Links 27/5/2020: CoreOS Container Linux Reaches Its End-Of-Life, 2020 GNOME Foundation Elections Coming

    Links for the day

  15. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 26, 2020

    IRC logs for Tuesday, May 26, 2020

  16. GNEW Seedlings vs. Free Software Deforestation

    “The idea of the GNEW Project really is about keeping the goals of the GNU Project alive — hopefully, they won’t destroy or co-opt too much of the GNU Project, that people like the Hyperbola devs can’t fix it with BSD.”

  17. Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein

    An important exhibit for the accurate historical record (because MIT has been trying to deny truth itself)

  18. It's Convenient to Call All Your Critics Nuts and/or Jealous

    Bill Gates antagonists are not motivated by hatred or jealousy but a sense of injustice; spoiled brats who break the law aren’t a source of envy any more than mass murderers are subject of admiration

  19. Real History of Microsoft and How It Became 'Successful'

    New video that contains a portion about the history of Microsoft -- the part paid-for 'journalists' (paid by Microsoft and Bill Gates) rarely or never speak about

  20. Hostility and Aggression Towards Staff That Does Not Use Windows After Windows Takes Entire Hospital Down

    Microsoft Windows, with NSA back doors, continues to take hospitals offline (with records copied by criminals if not stolen by effectively locking the originals out of reach for ransom money); but guess who’s being punished for it…

  21. They Came, They Saw, We Died...

    It cannot be overstated that we're under attack (or a "Jihad" against Linux as Bill Gates himself put it) and failing to act upon it will be costly as time may be running out and our groups are being 'bought off' by Microsoft in rapid succession, as per the plan/strategy

  22. The GitHub Takeover Was an Extension of Microsoft's War on GPL/Copyleft (Because Sharing Code to Anyone But Microsoft is 'Piracy')

    Licences that make it easier for Microsoft to 'steal' (or a lot harder for Free software to compete against proprietary software) are still being promoted by Microsoft; its GitHub tentacles (see GitHub's logo) further contribute to this agenda

  23. ZDNet is Totally a Microsoft Propaganda Machine

    The site ZDNet has become worse than useless; it lies, defames and launders the reputation of famous criminals (that's the business model these days)

  24. When Microsoft's Mask Falls (or When Times Are Rough)

    Microsoft loves Linux in the same sense that cats love mice (they might play with them until they get hungry)

  25. Careers in Free Software Aren't Careers in the Traditional Sense

    With historic unemployment rates and people 'stranded' inside their homes there's still demand and need for technology; these times of adaptation present an opportunity for Software Freedom

  26. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish 2020 Edition

    Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (E.E.E.) is alive and well, but the corrupt (paid by Microsoft) media isn't talking about it anymore; in fact, it actively cheers and encourages people/companies to enter the trap

  27. Links 26/5/2020: SHIFT13mi GNU/Linux Tablet, Linux Kodachi 7.0 and Some Qt Releases

    Links for the day

  28. EPO Propaganda on Steroids (or on EPO)

    What EPO management is saying and what is actually happening

  29. Breton (EU) 'Joins' Team UPC to Help His Buddy Battistelli... Again

    As expected, Breton acts as little but an EPO tool, looking to prop up supremacy of patent litigation over science and innovation

  30. Removing Free/Libre Software as an Inadequate Response to Microsoft Windows (With Back Doors) Getting Compromised, Killing People

    GNU/Linux takes the blame (in a sense) for incidents that are purely the fault of Microsoft and its deficient software with deliberate back doors; it's believed that this boils down to opportunistic retaliation against those looking for a solution to the problem (or merely speaking about the problem)

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