EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

12.06.08

As Search Bribery Fails, Microsoft Turns to More Agitation and Proxy-Fighting

Posted in Finance, Google, HP, Microsoft at 8:56 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Boy charging
Industry dictator strikes again

Search Bribery

Microsoft’s bribery in search is an issue that was explored before [1, 2] and labeling it “a bribe” was never our idea. The word “bribery” is just echoed very consistently across top publications. The same goes for the term “proxy fight”, which is a factual technical term.

This idea of bribing users is not working out so well. Microsoft commissioned some bogus studies in order to show otherwise, but respectable and widely-acknowledged metrics suggest that Microsoft continues to sink in terms of market share, in addition to losing money that it pays to attract (or to keep) users. To make matters worse, there are serious technical issues, summarised thusly:

In summary, here’s how events have unfolded in the past week …

1) Cash-strapped consumers get excited over the prospect of 40 percent cashback from HP.

2) Microsoft’s Live Search Cashback service goes down for much of Black Friday; many people can’t take advantage of the offer.

3) Many of those who do get through get 3 percent cashback, rather than the promised 40 percent.

4) In a published report, Microsoft is quoted saying that the HP promotion will be restarted soon.

5) Microsoft makes it clear that HP promotion actually won’t be restarted in the promised time frame.

Gee, why does Microsoft have such a hard time making money online?

There is an attempt that’s rather desperate to even increase the briberies pace now.

Microsoft is making payback quicker on its Cashback program after the service suffered an outage Friday and failed to give some people discounts they were eligible for.

Mike Masnick explains why this won’t work.

“Dear Microsoft: Bribing Users Faster Still Probably Won’t Help Much

We noted last month that Microsoft was stepping up its program to bribe users to use its search engine, and that process continues with the announcement that Microsoft is adjusting the program to provide the cashback award immediately, rather than making users wait for it.

Based on the news, not only Microsoft’s search business is suffering in this division.

The debut of the new Windows Live, which introduces a set of social networking-like features to Microsoft’s suite of online services, has not gone exactly as planned.

What can Microsoft do to save this sinking ship?

Bullying Rivals

For background that covers the Yahoo-Microsoft saga, see:

A few days ago is turned out that the Department of Justice, which is regarded by prominent people to be heavily influenced by Microsoft (there is evidence too), was going to sue Google. As Microsoft was seen attacking Google with legal means (using intermediaries) in the not-so-distant past, one cannot help being cynical.

DOJ Was Three Hours From Suing Google For Antitrust Violations

[...]

Now, that litigator, Sandy Litvack has admitted that the Justice Department was three hours away from filing its antitrust suit, which he was “looking forward to” and he’s apparently disappointed he didn’t get to go to court over it.

We have already covered these developments and showed who was doing the string-pulling and thinking at the Department of Justice, which was not only lobbied by Microsoft but also contains Microsoft cronies inside it. The evidence is in previous posts, so those willing to explore it can do so and see for themselves. The administration made a colossal mistake that harms the consumer.

In the mean time, Microsoft is again shaking Yahoo’s stock by expressing desire to make a deal with the Internet giant. It’s rattling the company, which gradually emits its seniors who just can’t take it anymore. The latest to leave (and join Microsoft) is the search boss.

Buying the company person by person

[...]

Before joining Yahoo! Lu was a researcher for IBM – he holds 20 US patents.

He has already been appointed the leader of Microsoft’s very unsuccessful business where billions of dollars are still being lost.

Microsoft Corp. on Thursday tapped a former Yahoo search executive to lead its online push, adding to the intrigue surrounding a possible search partnership between the two rivals.

Todd Bishop covered this too.

Qi Lu, a former Yahoo search and advertising engineering executive, will soon join Microsoft in a top online position, reports AllThingsD’s Kara Swisher this morning, following up on her earlier reports. This would the new “senior lead position” that the company created this summer in its Online Services Business.

Around the same time, Microsoft is talking to its likely-to-be (or have been) proxy fighter out in the open. It’s using Icahn as a Trojan horse and a poison pill. They have already ‘expelled’ Jerry Yang and they seem to be trying to arrange something together now.

Bazillionare investor Carl Icahn has held talks with Microsoft over the purchase of Yahoo!’s search business, according to a regulatory filing.

If this whole Yahoo-Microsoft saga has been in compliance with the law since February, then herein we behold an industry of white-collar crime, where criminals in suits are portrayed as heroes and their profiles brushed up in accordance with business agenda, sometimes through careful revisionism and euphemisms.

“I’d be glad to help tilt lotus into into the death spiral. I could do it Friday afternoon but not Saturday. I could do it pretty much any time the following week.”

Brad Silverberg, Microsoft

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

A Single Comment

  1. Needs Sunlight said,

    December 6, 2008 at 10:00 am

    Gravatar

    These are great, but are really three separate articles.

    Regarding the first one, which is about bribery, knowing how to get a Windows Refund would interest most who are buying a new computer during the coming weeks. Those that got burned by MS during Black Friday may be doubly so.

What Else is New


  1. Links 25/6/2019: Mesa Releases, Less Microsoft in Apache

    Links for the day



  2. The European Patent Office Remains a Crooked Patent Office That Harms Staff and Abolishes the Rule of Law

    The EPO remains a sordid mess, but those who follow mainstream media might not know anything about it because it's not covered anywhere in 2019



  3. USPTO and EPO Faking Growth by Granting Patents on Everything in Nature, But Campaigners Strike Back

    The patent microcosm is eating the world; everything under the Sun must be patented, they insist, even life itself (so they can 'pirate' the Commons and then charge us a tax for 'access' or 'license' to it)



  4. IBM Happy That Patent Quality at EPO Collapsed and It's Easy to Get Software Patents

    The EPO keeps granting illegal European Patents and the media almost never mentions this illegality because it's in too amicable a relationship (typically financial) with the EPO



  5. The Linux Foundation's Staff Uses Windows and Microsoft. Now the Foundation Outsources the Coding and Hosting, Too (to Microsoft of Course).

    The disturbing turns of the self-described "Linux" Foundation, which seems to be promoting proprietary software and even Microsoft rather than Linux and Free/Open Source software while the role or capacity of Torvalds is being gradually diminished



  6. Links 25/6/2019: Raspberry Pi 4, Ubuntu's Change of Mind, Wayland’s Weston 6.0.1

    Links for the day



  7. Patent Extremism: Stacking the Panels, the Surveys, the Hearings, the Debates

    Projection tactics would have the public believe that those who oppose corruption are simply radicals; patent polarity has come to the point where if one isn't a "true believer" in blackmail (patent trolls) or opposes bribery, then one is simply a "fringe" and akin to terrorists



  8. Links 24/6/2019: Linux 5.2 RC6, Skrooge 2.20.0, ZFS vs. OpenZFS

    Links for the day



  9. The EPO Needs a President Who Obeys the Law, Not One Who Obeys Battistelli

    Succession based on nepotism at Europe's second-largest institution served to shown how inherently broken things had become and why cover-up of injustices is nowadays paramount (not fixing the flaws/ills but merely perpetuating them)



  10. With Water (Treatment) Already Patented It Won't Take Long for Patents (and Patent Royalties) on Air

    A 'paper economy' is what Europe turns into if the current trajectory is followed (led by lawyers, not producers)



  11. Bill Gates Said He Was on a “Jihad” Against GNU/Linux, But GNU/Linux Users/Developers Engaged in Self-Defense Are Foul-Mouthed 'Microsoft Haters'?

    Microsoft, which routinely commits very serious crimes, tries to come across as some sort of philanthropy whereas those who share their work with the public (for greater good) are described as erratic, rude and unworthy of respect from corporations (outcasts basically, deprived of income source)



  12. What Patents the EPO Has Just Awarded (With a Special Reward), Not Just Granted

    The EPO's practice of elevating some patents over the other patents (European Patents) is perhaps more of a societal liability than the EPO cares to realise



  13. Required Reading: Mental State of Team Battistelli/Campinos

    On the heels of yesterday's article about Team Battistelli/Campinos, here are some recommended/required papers on the problem which likely plagues the Office



  14. Links 23/6/2019: Wine 4.11, FreeBSD 11.3 RC2

    Links for the day



  15. Microsoft Apparently Did a Patrick Durusau on Wim Coekaerts to Broaden Its Control Over GNU/Linux

    Microsoft tactics for defection and takeover of the competition (without coming across as hostile) aren't new tactics; internal documents from Microsoft explain how to achieve this



  16. EPO Directors Would be Wise to Rebel Against Team Campinos While They Still Have the Job

    As the EPO continues its bold journey towards dictatorship (where presidencies are passed between friends and ‘circles’ are former colleagues or close confidants) Techrights urges those who have power to speak out — e.g. EPO judges and Directors — to do something before it’s too late



  17. American Front Group Open Invention Network (Riding the Linux Brand) is a Proponent of Software Patents in Europe

    The impact of American multinationals in Europe is difficult to deny; in fact, we're observing the same old lobbying/lobbies still working hard albeit more covertly (typically using front groups)



  18. Say 'Hey Hi' to Software Patents

    Using the “AI” (“HEY HI”) hype the ‘community’ of patent maximalists hopes that every little (and possibly very old) algorithm will suddenly sound amazing and innovative — to the point where it becomes unthinkable to deny a patent monopoly on it



  19. A Personal Note From Ted MacReilly (How Microsoft Works Against GNU/Linux)

    A tongue-in-cheek write-up highlighting the ways Microsoft insiders think and how they strategise against GNU/Linux and Free/libre software



  20. The Linux Foundation's New Vice Chair, Wim Coekaerts, Worked for Microsoft

    The Linux Foundation is boosting the Microsoft boosters and calls that "community"



  21. Links 21/6/2019: GNOME 3.33.3, 32-Bit Support Further Neglected, DragonFlyBSD 5.6.1 Released

    Links for the day



  22. Leaked: Harassment of EPO Directors by Team Campinos

    “New BIT organisation and staff changes,” a novel kind of newspeak, means that Directors are being severely punished without due process at all (“hidden disciplinary measure without disciplinary proceedings”)



  23. Patent Professionals in Europe Have Devolved Into a Marketing Industry

    Lies, buzzwords and hype waves is all that the patent bubble in Europe boils down to these days; loads of bogus patents get granted only for European judges to smack these down (if one can afford the court battle)



  24. Almost Six Months After Iancu Said He Would Make Software Patents Great Again Nothing Has Actually Changed

    We're just a fortnight away from the ludicrous plan of Iancu celebrating 6 months (without accomplishing anything)



  25. Links 20/6/2019: Kubernetes 1.15, Alpine 3.10.0 and Librem 5 June Software Update

    Links for the day



  26. Ignore the EPO's Dumb Festival and Focus on the Abuses Against the Workforce and Its Quality of Work

    Don’t lose sight of the appalling behaviour of the management of the EPO; the last thing it wants is press coverage about its gross abuses and corruption — an aspect it spent literally millions of euros to bury (gaming the news cycle)



  27. Microsoft Attempting to Destroy the Careers of Its Critics, Including Free Software Proponents

    Microsoft isn't changing and has not changed; the tactics described above are still being used, even by its "Open Source" (or "Open at Microsoft") people, who did this to me



  28. Links 19/6/2019: Linux Mint Vs Vista 10, Qt 5.13 Released

    Links for the day



  29. The Linux Foundation's Business Model

    The Linux Foundation's plan, illustrated



  30. Links 18/6/2019: i386 Abandoned by Canonical and a New osquery 'Community'

    Links for the day


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts