EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

04.24.09

It’s Unofficial: Microsoft Pays ASUS (Kickbacks) to Block GNU/Linux. Will EU Commission Step in?

Posted in Antitrust, GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Windows at 3:08 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Laundered money

Summary: “Microsoft is actually paying for using Windows [...] Asus speaker confirmed this in Germany,” says an informant

According to a German Web site, some are being told that Microsoft has been paying ASUS per sale in order for them to install Windows XP and neglect or exclude GNU/Linux. There are some attempts to find the particular place where an official message from ASUS (probably E-mail) let it be known, right after someone had complained about the absence/price of comparable Eee PC with GNU/Linux. Details from the conversation are added below.

“The European Commission needs to intervene if this is provably true.”Considering the fact that less than a year ago an ASUS official said, “currently, we are closely tied up with Microsoft,” the above makes sense. The European Commission needs to intervene if this is provably true. This would mean that Microsoft is still breaking the law behind closed doors. It breaks the laws in some other areas (OOXML for example), but this area should not be neglected. Kickbacks are almost a euphemism for bribes, especially when you are a monopolist. Intel will soon be fined for it in Europe.

Is Microsoft paying OEMs to deny the entry of GNU/Linux into this market (or its survival there)? Could Microsoft be actually charging nothing for Windows XP on some devices? Not even $5? What about the cost of patents that encumber each copy of Microsoft Windows?


Appendix: Conversation log


*mib_24m6za (i=58418c01@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f986a58cab439fd0) has joined #boycottnovell Apr 22 19:46
mib_24m6za dang I want to relogin with my real nick but cant even when I delete all cookies…. Apr 22 19:46
mib_24m6za anyway, MS will get taught a lesson in Russia Apr 22 19:47
mib_24m6za simply put they will take the money but go on their way Apr 22 19:47
schestowitz Yes Apr 22 19:47
schestowitz Russia shows Microsoft’s weakness Apr 22 19:48
mib_24m6za I am quite sure this 300m are one of the worst investments every of Ballmer Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz It can’t make people pay Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz So it dumps Apr 22 19:48
mib_24m6za my only concern is that the 300m are no cash but some worthless Windows copies or training classes Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz They did something similar in other countries like India Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz Yes Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz It’s worthless to them Apr 22 19:48
mib_24m6za leaving a steaming pile of cash? Apr 22 19:48
schestowitz See the link that says “Under no circumstance lose to Linux” Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz If Linux wins they get $0 Apr 22 19:49
mib_24m6za that was Munich… my home town :-) Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz So they might as well give Windows+office for $0 Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz Basically, here’s how it goes Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz One might say, Linux has no chance Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz Because Microsoft competes with $0 Windows Apr 22 19:49
schestowitz But that’s nonsense Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz Because sooner or later that becomes the price of Windows Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz See the price of XP on subnotebooks Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz About $5 Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz because of LINUX Apr 22 19:50
mib_24m6za MS is actually paying for using Windows – said that already a 100 times… Asus speaker confirmed this in Germany Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz So they won’t be profitable for much longer Apr 22 19:50
mib_24m6za they charge 15 USD for Win XP Home but pay a per unit kickback Apr 22 19:50
mib_24m6za for every netbook sold Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz Ballmer has just taken a cheap shot at Oracle’s purchase of Sun saying it’s a sw company buying a hw company Apr 22 19:50
schestowitz He said MS would never do such a thing Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz But! Apr 22 19:51
mib_24m6za which is higher than the licence fee Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz Their sw becomes worthless Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz In the cost sense Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz So they tried to sell hw without success Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz Notably Zune and Xbox Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz They lost ?$billions Apr 22 19:51
mib_24m6za hey – I own a MS mouse – the best MS product I ever used :-) Apr 22 19:51
mib_24m6za mib_2kldw9 mib_bs9bo5 mib_ey0o48 mib_nhm138 mib_vfvtjy Apr 22 19:51
schestowitz mib_24m6za: can you get me that link? Apr 22 19:52
schestowitz Even in Deutsch? Apr 22 19:52
mib_24m6za yes they are shoveling money in thewir commercial grave so to say :-9 Apr 22 19:52
schestowitz I need to use that Apr 22 19:52
schestowitz mib_24m6za: please please find me that reference Apr 22 19:52
schestowitz From ASUS Apr 22 19:52
schestowitz I’d re-cite it a lot when the issue comes up Apr 22 19:52
mib_24m6za let me look this up it is buried somewhere here http://www.eee-pc.de/ Apr 22 19:52
mib_24m6za or should be there Apr 22 19:52
mib_24m6za was a user who mailed Asus why no Linux netbooks Apr 22 19:53
schestowitz That would change the whole way we think about this issue Apr 22 19:53
schestowitz That’s literally buying one’s market share Apr 22 19:53
mib_24m6za and they answered very frankly cause they get kickbacks :-) Apr 22 19:53
Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

What Else is New


  1. Links 24/10/2014: GNU/Linux History, Fedora Delay

    Links for the day



  2. Links 23/10/2014: New *buntu, Benchmarks

    Links for the day



  3. Links 22/10/2014: Chromebooks Surge, NSA Android Endorsement

    Links for the day



  4. Links 21/10/2014: Debian Fork Debate, New GNU IceCat

    Links for the day



  5. Criminal Microsoft is Censoring the Web and Breaks Laws to Do So; the Web Should Censor (Remove) Microsoft

    Microsoft is still breaking the Internet using completely bogus takedown requests (an abuse of DMCA) and why Microsoft Windows, which contains weaponised back doors (shared with the NSA), should be banned from the Internet, not just from the Web



  6. Microsoft 'Loving' GNU/Linux and Other Corporate Media Fiction

    Microsoft has bullied or cleverly bribed enough technology-centric media sites to have them characterise Microsoft as a friend of Free/Open Source software (FOSS) that also "loves Linux"



  7. India May be Taking Bill Gates to Court for Misusing His So-called 'Charity' to Conduct Clinical Trials Without Consent on Behalf of Companies He Invests in

    Bill Gates may finally be pulled into the courtroom again, having been identified for large-scale abuses that he commits in the name of profit (not "charity")



  8. The Problems With Legal Workarounds, Patent Scope, and Expansion of Patent Trolls to the East

    Patent trolls are in the news again and it's rather important, albeit for various different reasons, more relevant than the ones covered here in the past



  9. Links 20/10/2014: Cloudera and Red Hat, Debian 7.7, and Vivid Vervet

    Links for the day



  10. Links 20/10/2014: 10 Years Since First Ubuntu Release

    Links for the day



  11. How Patent Lawyers Analyze Alice v. CLS Bank

    Breaking down a patent lawyer's analysis of a Supreme Court's decision that seemingly invalidated hundreds of thousands of software patents



  12. Is It Google's Turn to Head the USPTO Corporation?

    The industry-led USPTO continues to be coordinated by some of its biggest clients, despite issues associated with conflicting interests



  13. The EPO's Public Relations Disaster Amid Distrust From Within (and EPO Communications Chief Leaves): Part VII

    Amid unrest and suspicion of misconduct in the EPO's management (ongoing for months if not years), Transparency International steps in, but the EPO's management completely ignores Transparency International, refusing to collaborate; the PR chief of the EPO is apparently being pushed out in the mean time



  14. Links 18/10/2014: Debian Plans for Init Systems, Tails 1.2

    Links for the day



  15. Links 18/10/2014: New ELive, Android Expansion

    Links for the day



  16. Another Fresh Blow to Software Patents (and With Them Patent Trolls)

    Another new development shows that more burden of proof is to be put on the litigant, thus discouraging the most infamous serial patent aggressors and reducing the incentive to settle with a payment out of court



  17. Links 16/10/2014: New Android, SSL 3.0 Flaw

    Links for the day



  18. How the Corporate Press Deceives and Sells Microsoft Agenda

    Various new examples of media propaganda that distorts or makes up the facts (bias/lies by omission/selection) and where this is all coming from



  19. Vista 10 is Still Vapourware, But We Already Know It Will Increase Surveillance on Its Users and Contain Malicious Back Doors

    The villainous company which makes insecure-by-design operating systems will continue to do so, but in the mean time the corporate press covers only bugs in FOSS, not back doors in proprietary software



  20. Links 15/10/2014: KDE Plasma 5.1 is Out, GOG Reaches 100-Title Mark

    Links for the day



  21. With .NET Foundation Affiliation Xamarin is Another Step Closer to Being Absorbed by Microsoft

    Xamarin is not even trying to pretend that separation exists between Microsoft and its work; yet another collaboration is announced



  22. The EPO's Protection Triangle of Battistelli, Kongstad, and Topić: Part VI

    Jesper Kongstad, Benoît Battistelli, and Zeljko Topić are uncomfortably close personally and professionally, so suspicions arise that nepotism and protectionism play a negative role that negatively affects the European public



  23. Corporate Media Confirms the Demise of Software Patents in the United States; Will India and Europe Follow?

    It has become increasingly official that software patents are being weakened in the United States' USPTO as well as the courts; will software leaders such as India and Europe stop trying to imitate the old USPTO?



  24. Links 14/10/2014: CAINE 6, New RHEL, Dronecode

    Links for the day



  25. Microsoft's Disdain for Women Steals the Show at a Women's Event

    Steve Ballmer's successor, Satya Nadella, is still too tactless to lie to the audience, having been given --through subversive means -- a platform at a conference that should have shunned Microsoft, a famously misogynistic company



  26. SCOTUS May Soon Put an End to the 'Copyrights on APIs' Question While Proprietary Giants Continue to Harass Android/Linux in Every Way Conceivable

    Google takes its fight over API freedom to the Supreme Court in the Unites States and it also takes that longstanding patent harassment from the Microsoft- and Apple-backed troll (Rockstar) out of East Texas



  27. Patent Lawsuits Almost Halved After SCOTUS Ruling on 'Abstract' Software Patents

    The barrier for acceptance of software patent applications is raised in the United States and patent lawsuits, many of which involve software these days, are down very sharply, based on new figures from Lex Machina



  28. Links 13/10/2014: ChromeOS and EXT, Debian Resists Systemd Domination

    Links for the day



  29. Links 12/10/2014: Blackphone Tablet, Sony's Firefox OS Port

    Links for the day



  30. Links 9/10/2014: Free Software in Germany, Lenovo Tablets With Android

    Links for the day


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts