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Apple Allegedly Impersonates Police, Attacks Linux, Finds Support From Its Allies Microsoft and Oracle

Posted in Apple, Courtroom, FUD, GNU/Linux, Google, GPL, Microsoft, Patents at 6:38 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Apple cult

Summary: Apple is said to have committed a serious felony by pretending to be police and it is also attacking Linux through the courtroom, much to the chagrin of Microsoft proponents and lobbyists

THE cult which is Apple “will die with steve jobs,” wrote to me someone in Identi.ca two hours ago, after I had posted a link about Apple losing its leadership to Linux (more on that in our daily Links).

The latest disgrace from Apple is this allegation that Apple has again misused police powers that it does not have. To quote:

If accurate, his account raises the possibility that Apple security personnel attempting to recover the prototype falsely represented themselves as police officers — a criminal act punishable by up to a year in jail in the state of California — or that SFPD employees colluding with Apple failed to properly report an extensive search of a person’s home, car, and computer.

A “criminal act”? Don’t worry, cults do that a lot. Ask Scientologists. As TechDirt put it in its headline, “Man Claims Apple Investigators Pretended To Be SF Police In Searching For Lost iPhone Prototype”. Criminal if true, but Apple is never punished for such behaviour, just like it got away with it the previous time (the police typically protects rich corporations from the people, not vice versa). Quoting TechDirt:

Earlier this week, News.com broke a story of yet another Apple employee losing an iPhone prototype in a bar (stop me if you’ve heard this one before…). Unlike the last one, this one (as far as we know) did not get sold to some tech website for a few thousand dollars. However, reports are emerging that raise some serious questions about how Apple went about trying to retrieve the phone.

A man in San Francisco, Sergio Calderon, claims that six people showed up at his door claiming to be San Francisco Police Department officers, and that they had badges. They claimed they were looking for a lost phone, but didn’t say it was a prototype. The original News.com report had said that police together with Apple investigators went to the guy’s house — but the SFPD says they have no record of SFPD being involved in any such action (which it should have if they were involved). The guy whose house was searched says that no one identified themselves as being from Apple. They also threatened him and his family over their immigration status (even though he says they’re all legal). Either way, he was nervous and let them search his house (a mistake) and even check out his computer. They didn’t find anything.

What we cannot help but notice is that many of the pro-Microsoft people have become Apple boosters when it comes to the war on Android. They just cannot stand Linux and Free software, so Apple and Microsoft share common goals. Microsoft’s shameless booster Matt Rosoff continues to promote anti-Linux sides (Rosoff came from a Microsoft consultancy) and the egomaniac pro-Microsoft lobbyist we have all come to know and loathe also quotes Microsoft boosters like Ed Bott in order to make Android/Google/Linux look bad. That one example was just a few hours ago. He does this all day long. They work in unison to daemonise Android and prop up Apple’s case, which by the way has been noticed also by Neil Richards, who writes the column “I Can Sue You, But You Can’t Sue Us: Apple”. To quote:

Apple has sued almost every other company in the mobile industry, in not only US but around the globe. The company also tried to patent a rectangular design claiming monopoly in the tablet segment.

The same company whose ex-CEO quotes “We are shameless about stealing from others.” has sued everyone else over minor similarities in the box of the product, icon design and rectangular shape.


This is not the first time anti-FOSS bloggers are trying to spin the story. They recently twisted the story of Samsung’s victory in the Dutch court as the victory of Apple diluting the fact that Apple lost its design patents and all other software patents except for one. The court gave Samsung 7 weeks and one day’s time to fix the problem or the injunction will be enforced. Trusted sources like BBC also fell for this trick and covered the defeat of Samsung.

It is interesting to see that such blogger, with no legal expertise, are supporting Apple’s foul cry that Samsung and Motorola are abusing their patents. What they won’t tell us is its Apple which is suing everyone else using software patents.

It’s interesting to see that the same anti-Android lobbyists while support Apple’s ‘right’ to use a broad rectangular design and block everyone else from selling a device, but they criticize competitors when they try to defend themselves using the technologies they actually invented!

We mentioned this yesterday and also this morning. Apple has no shame left. And on the same subject, for those bolstering the anti-Android camp there’s the Oracle case on which Groklaw remarks: “Google’s response is a thorough recitation of the current law of copyright when it comes to analyzing software on the issue of copyright infringement, at least within the 9th Circuit. Google’s strongest arguments are that the JAVA API’s at issue are functional and, thus, not protected by copyright and, to the extent Google has copied anything, the copying has been de minimis, i.e., a few lines of code out of thousands.”

What’s very popular right now among anti-Android lobbyists is to claim copyright-related problems in Android that almost nobody cares about (not even the developers). They try to cause friction and infighting. Some of these people have employment history in Microsoft. We know those tactics.

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  1. Michael said,

    September 2, 2011 at 7:29 pm


    Hmmm, so a mere “allegation” is a disgrace to Apple.

    I have made many more allegations against you, Roy – and they are much, much better supported. You must feel completely disgraced.

  2. NotZed said,

    September 2, 2011 at 8:35 pm


    I sure hope ‘michael’ is getting paid per comment.

    Michael Reply:

    Nope. I am just an open source advocate (or, really, an informed computing advocate) who had gotten tired of the FUD and hatred from Roy. He makes those of us who truly do appreciate open source projects look bad.

    NotZed Reply:

    Well you should work on your composition because you sound like someone with an axe to grind against free software in general and Roy in particular. And that’s being generous.

    Setting up a site specifically in order to disagree with an individual of the public sounds very much like stalking to me too. If you want to set up a site complaining about how nasty the fsf and free software is, and all the great stuff m$ and apple and are doing to break it’s ungodly hold on the world, then go right ahead, but being a boorish contrarian for the sake of it – on someone else’s site as well – is not doing yourself or your cause any favours.

    I don’t know why you go on about Roy being ‘biased’ on your site either – of course he’s biased, he’s trying to advocate his own political points (Surprise! Some of which he shares with many people!). News flash – this site is not an impartial news service and Roy is not a journalist. But he doesn’t pretend to be either, so there should be no expectation of completely unbiased coverage either. The fact he has open comments and open IRC logs allows for free disagreement.

    Neither does he claim to find out every possible bit of bad behaviour from every company in existence. He focusses on M$ and Apple because he chooses to, for reasons that he mentions continuously. There is so much going on at the moment he couldn’t possibly hope to comment on all of it even if he wanted to, and there are plenty of other similar advocacy sites on the internet to fill the holes.

    And I don’t know what site your reading because i’ve never seen any hate from Roy, at all. Personally I wouldn’t mind a bit of hate and anger (because I think it deserves it), but I realise that would rub a few people the wrong way so I can see it being undesirable here.

    You on the other hand seem to have an unexplainable personal vendetta against Roy.

    Michael Reply:

    What have I said against Free Software? Not a word. As far as being against Roy: I believe OSS is good enough to advocate *honestly* – I think it is bad “advocacy” to lie and spread FUD as he does and actually works against real advocacy.

    Why would I want to set up a site “complaining about how nasty the fsf and free software is, and all the great stuff m$ and apple and are doing” when that is not at all in line with my beliefs? If that is what you believe, however, I will look at your site if you wish.

    I will agree that Roy allows at least somewhat free disagreements – though he does not respond to the evidence he is wrong. He does allow me to respond here and he has allowed me on his show and has agreed to do so again (date still pending). I respect him for that.

    As far as focusing on Apple and MS, he does more than that. He vilifies them for things he directly excuses in others. And he lies about them. It is that dishonesty and that FUD I am against.

    As far as Roy’s hatred and anger: he calls people names, he lies about people, he makes up stories, he targets people who work for companies he loathes. Not sure how anyone could not see this. As far as my “vendetta” against Roy – no: I do not want him to lie, but I wish him well and speak well of him and his ideas when he is not acting poorly. He, however, wrongly accuses me – in public – of dishonesty. For example, in reference to videos and images I produced to support my views, Roy said this:

         On the show he also said that he had tried KDE. Later it
         turned out that he lied because he said he had only judged it
         based on videos and/or screenshots.

    At first I gave him the full benefit of the doubt – maybe he did not know I had made those media files he claimed I had used to judge KDE. But when he was told this he kept insisting I lied. It was absurd.

    Why not ask Roy to either rescind his accusations against me or actually try to back them? If you think he is an honest man he should have no problem with that.

    My guess is he will never even try – not even Roy really thinks he is an honest person.

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:


    Michael (aka “Snit”) is a stalker and a pathological troll not just on WWW but also in USENET. Even the Mac proponents cannot stand the guy and I suggest you do not feed him as that would lead him to stalking/harassing you too. Here are some of the things people said about Michael (aka “Snit”):

    2- Alan Baker: “People’s perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour and
    not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you’d leave too.
    Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have
    never made the same wish of him.” 27 Feb 2005


    3- Andrew J. Brehm: “You are not flamed because you speak the truth, you
    are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the
    newsgroup.” 27 Feb 2005


    4- AZ Nomad: “The fact that you routinely change your headers to weasel
    out of killfiles proves that you’re an asshole.” 25 Jun 2007


    5- Andy/news/nospam: “Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why not just
    let them go away and show how responsible a member of CSMA you are? You
    could show your enemies up by being better than them, rise above the low
    level you so obviously dislike. Anything, just stop….” 26 Apr 2007


    6- B.B.: “Does the From: header contain the string “Snit”? If yes, then
    troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire, but
    it’s fixed now.” 13 Mar 2005


    7- BaJoRi: “You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who has read
    your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed it to be wrong, then
    added even more, just to be a dick and REALLY show you to be a fool. You
    need to judiciously snip out pertinent points because you are an
    intellectually dwarfed turd-burglar.” 11 Nov 2008


    8- bobinnv: “I learned some time ago how much better this group can be if
    you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more people don’t do the
    same..” 5 Aug 2006


    9- Bob B.: “This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but
    since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent
    discussion about anything. The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for
    some reason, some people just can’t stop feeding him.” 27 Dec 2004


    10- °b° unny: Subject “snit makes me sad”, Text “really actually =:-(”
    9 Oct 2004


    11- Brian: “LOL, Has anyone ever been more universally hated on the
    USENET than Snit? Too bad he craves the hatred and negative attention. We
    will read about him in the news some day soon going on a shooting
    rampage. Somebody should get the pychopath some help before he VT’s a
    bunch of people. 29 May 2007


    12- buzz off: “Snit is obviously mentally ill, but you and Steve don’t
    help. You encourage him to post, which he doesn’t need to do. We would
    all be better off if you just ignore him. 17 Nov 2004


    13- Carlo Coggi: “He must believe he is surrounded by ‘trolls’ … in the
    groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the idiotrollers like snit
    would reply to this thread. Of course, I didn’t see his posts, only your
    reply”. 07 Aug 2006 (available only in reply)


    14- C Lund: “Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it’s time for you to
    learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of course, that your
    Usenet browser has a kill-filter.” 5 Mar 2005


    15- cc (COLA): “You are incapable of letting anything go. In fact, I
    guarantee you will respond to this post in under 3 hours. Hell, I’d be
    surprised if it takes longer than 30 minutes. If I really wanted to, I
    could make this little side topic go on forever, because you are a
    complete moron who just has to respond to anything written about or to
    you, even if it just means repeating yourself.” 1 Feb 2010


    16- Chance Furlong: “HPT, Wally, Sandman, C Lund, Steve Carroll and Tim
    Adams are not trolls and do not troll. You, on the other hand, are a
    troll.” 27 Aug 2009


    17- Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): “I try to go more by the contents of the
    posts. Although some clowns (e.g. Snit) spew out so much chaff it is not
    worth the effort.” 14 Feb 2010


    Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): “Actually, many of the advocates are sick to death
    of Snit’s never-ending puerile blather about trivialities. The
    occasional reasonable conversations are too few and far between.” 6 Mar


    18- Chris Clement: “ugh….geez man…..let it go” 5 Jul 2006


    19- chrisv (cola): “No, she called him ‘shit’, and rightly so, for they
    way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot, and
    simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes. It’s now far too late
    to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him…” 12 Sep 2005


    20- Code Orange: “Then why post it? What need is there for you to “win”
    an argument? They don’t like you, you don’t like them. Why must you keep
    this up? What results are you expecting?”

    21- CozmicDebris: “I’m done with your three year old games. The archives
    show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep posting your
    list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will not address it any
    further- you being too stupid to realize and accept that is not my
    problem”. 22 Nov 2007


    22- cshenk: “I happen to believe him over you… and I doubt I’d be the
    only person in this ng to do so. You have given people a lot of
    ‘evidence’ that you are dishonest… as ‘evidenced’ by the quotes
    list.” …. “Why stop with Jonas? Why not call the entire list of people
    on your quotes list ‘liars’? After all, they have all labeled you a liar,
    troll or worse.” 27 Nov 2010


    23- Dave Fritzinger: “[snip of stuff I really don't care to read] Snit,
    please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but please,
    please, please, GO AWAY!!!!” 2 Jun 2006


    24- Dawg Tail: “PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all
    of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many
    diverse people who share a common perception where do you think the
    problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn’t
    require an advanced degree to figure out.” 30 Dec 2004


    25- Donald L McDaniel: “Jesus, snit. You’re a teacher. I thought you knew
    what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was presented to
    you. I guess I had too much confidence in you.” 30 Nov 2006


    26- ed: “snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and loser
    you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
    responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up
    responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it’s tough for the
    magnitude of your ‘loserdom’ to stick, so it loses some of it’s sharpness
    when i stop responding to you. you almost always start responding back in
    a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it’s once again that time.
    i can only ask that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child
    for having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if
    your wife is a loser as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat
    to be; if not, double condolences to her). ” 30 Apr 2005


    27- Edward Stanfield: “Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest and
    honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the biggest liar
    in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove Snit was using sock
    puppets and he still is. Snit can not give up his socks puppets and
    shills. They are the only ones who ever support him.” 28 Jan 2009


    28- Edwin: “You’ve got to be out of your mind, Snit. You’re the worst
    troll this group has ever seen. You’re a liar and a forger, and you’ve
    almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you to post a list of
    out of context arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies
    labled as a “peace effort” has to be one of the craziest stunts you’ve
    pulled. It’s all about your sick need for attention, your need to be
    center stage at all times. You’d publicly eat dog turd if you thought it
    would make people look at you.” 18 May 2007


    29- Elijah Baley: “Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see a
    doctor.” 24 Aug 2006


    30- Elizabot v2.0.2: “I see you were unable to respond to the points in
    my post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode. How
    childishly typical of you, Snit.” 16 Nov 2004


    31- Fa-groon: “I don’t read Snit period. He’s been killfiled since the
    first day I posted here. [....] I don’t want to ‘do like Snit’. As far as
    I’m concerned, Snit doesn’t even exist.” 15 Aug 2009


    32- fibercut: “That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to
    CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides the
    typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like being in
    a room of really young children trying there best to best the other
    person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to
    be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a
    great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more
    about “look everybody, I think he lied”. Is there no end then all this
    picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al
    little adversarial but you have personally crank it up to the point that
    this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
    this place your own personal circus.” 12 Jan 2006


    33- Geezer:
    Snit: “Steve Carroll has no sense of morality”
    Geezer: “Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who uncover his
    lies and deceit;)”
    Snit: “and no clue about the law.”
    Geezer: ‘Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are “proof”.
    LOL! (snip more of Snit’s unsupported lies)’ 1 Jan 2009


    34- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): “The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
    how stupid he is… What a mar00n”. 30 Aug 2008


    35- George Graves: “Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
    (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy
    with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any
    cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into
    submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to
    hit and run. NEVER engage him, it’s a futile, empty procedure that will
    only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!” 27 Oct 2004


    36- gimme_this_gimme_that: “Hitting the vodka tonight Snit?” 4 Mar 2007


    37- Glenn Hall (COLA): “That person is like a constantly running toilet
    that won’t stop. Does he ever stop talking about UI consistency? No
    matter what anyone replies, he adds a few more branches to the spider web
    as it grows and grows. It’s a waste of time.” 31 Oct 2010


    38- Greycloud: “You really shouldn’t lie like that. Everyone else notices
    that you are not honest and you have no honor.” 21 Jan 2006


    39- H: “Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate threads, are
    you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont ever censor people
    cause that’s just retarded but if you dont fix it I’m gonna have to cause
    I dont wanna see your name 40 times in a row. So uh, change your client
    or something”. 12 Sep 2004


    40- Hadron (COLA): “Would you please stop the whining. FFS he has you
    jumping to his every post. How many more fucking times are you going to
    post the same repetitive garbage? Please ..at least change the record
    sometimes!!!!!!!” 13 Aug 2010


    41- Henry Flam: “You on the other hand must be a deeply troubled
    individual who has a fragile ego. I needn’t agree nor disagree with the
    points above. I don’t care about them. Your constant complaints, whines,
    rages, etc., wars with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as
    trolls, arise from your sense that any conversation or thread must orbit
    around you. People have pointed that out to you but you don’t accept
    that. Snit I feel sorry for you. Please go and see a doctor about your
    solipsism. There must be a cure for you deep psychological travail.” 18
    Aug 2006


    42- Heywood Mogroot: “*plonk*” Aug 19 2004


    43- -hh: ‘Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the definition of
    “synonymous”. It is, however, a very clear example of how you attempt to
    maliciously debase against anyone who disagrees with you. As such, I
    consider this to be a purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me. This
    is your only warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the
    reminder that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
    both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
    “responsible”.’ 25 Feb 2008


    44- High Plains Thumper: “Agreed except for Snit and socks (Joe Crump and
    ad nauseum). I’ve got Snit kill binned, because he is the classic ad
    hominem troll. At first he seems reasonable, but then it always degrades
    into name calling bullying, the responder is a liar, etc. AKA the Snit
    Circus of Pathological Lies. Perhaps the times he seems reasonable are
    when he is properly controlled by medication.” 21 Sep 2010


    45- Homer (COLA): “I don’t mean this as a personal insult, but I’m
    perfectly serious when I say ‘Snit’ (Michael Glasser) is obviously
    mentally ill, and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts
    his wife to the problem, but I have to assume she’s already aware of his
    condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It’s possible, I
    suppose, that he’s already undergoing counselling and/or on medication,
    but if he is then it doesn’t seem to be helping much. Maybe he just
    missed his ‘meds’ today (again, I mean that sincerely).” 26 Jan 2009


    Homer: “Word of advice for anyone concerned: don’t be tempted to get
    drawn into a Snit circus, it’s literally a waste of time. He’s just an
    attention seeker who’ll keep stringing you along, in a never-ending
    circle of obtuse questions, for which he has no genuine interest in the
    answers.” 14 Oct 2010


    46- hophead: “I have been reading and occasionally posting to CSMA for a
    long time now, since 1995 at least. There have always been trolls and
    morons, but I’ve never seen anything quite so disruptive as the Snit
    circus. Snit will *never* back down or stop, and neither will most of his
    opponents. A good kill file is your only hope.” 20 Aug 2009


    47- Jamie Hart (cola): “It seems that since you are unable to offer
    support for your statements, you’re reduced to personal attacks on me.
    Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see that I have offered no
    straw men, and have only asked you to explain how the things you state as
    facts can be true. I’m really sorry that you’re taking this attitude, the
    topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have some insights.
    I’ve snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid answering
    any of the questions I asked by saying everything was just repeated.” 6
    Dec 2006


    48- Jason McNorton: “You’re one of the many, many paranoid people on
    usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh
    your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over. Either
    you’re a super troll, or you’re a super mess.” 1 Nov 2004


    49- JEDIDIAH (cola): “You’re simply full of shit.” 27 Feb 2006


    50- Jeff B.: “Yo, Snit. We’re not pals. I think you’re a git.” 23 Dec


    51- Jeff Hoppe: “This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
    recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won’t help me achieve
    a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those
    kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this.” 18 Nov


    52- Jesus: “Really, Snit. It’s annoying. What are you accomplishing
    besides being annoying? Is that your goal?” 25 Apr 2007


    53- Jim Lee Jr.: “Snit, read the thread’s title, is Bush mentioned in it?
    You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on topic and not hijack threads.”

    54- Jim Polaski: “Why is it that nearly every thread you’re involved in
    seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT
    things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead and
    stop this crap. Try. How about it?” 25 Apr 2006


    55- Jim Richardson (cola): “And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than
    actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I suppose.”

    “Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce evidence for his
    claims. At least come up with some original insults Snit! I mean, you
    *are* capable of original thoughts! Right? Snit?” 8 Feb 2008


    56- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: “and Snithead has even farther to fall -
    in a few weeks he’ll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at
    passersby ‘sucky sucky, $2…’” 23 Mar 2005


    57- John C. Randolph: “You’re nothing but a troll yourself. What are you
    bitching about?” 1 Dec 2005


    58- JohnOfArc (cola): “I’m not sure “troll” does it justice- more like a
    black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain an
    unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up? Please??”
    11 Mar 2005


    59- John Q. Public: “I have not been bothered to read Snit’s postings
    since I figured out who he is. I don’t bother to filter his posts, I just
    consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name.” 7 Jan


    60- John Slade: “I don’t get posts from Snit. I wouldn’t be shocked that
    he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about being a computer
    repairman and teacher. He’s just plain loony and best ignored. Let him
    deal with his disorder by medication. He’s here to do one thing, get
    attention from people. He says the crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
    You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that’s what he’s
    counting on, he says stuff he knows isn’t true in hopes to get a rise out
    of people like you. Ignore him, you won’t regret it.” 3 Apr 2007


    John Slade: “Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without adding
    drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage to get out of my
    killfile? Oh well back into the cage you go, PLONK.” 13 Oct 2007


    61- Josh McKee: “I have no strawman so therefore it has to be in your
    mind. …. What is obnoxious are your posts.” 26 Jul 2006


    62- K E: “I haven’t read this board for awhile but I see that even though
    the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll of the lot is mostly
    being ignored by readers on this bb. If the few stragglers that keep
    replying to him would just stop responding to Snit at all this place
    could be worth coming back to. There’s a good chance he’ll pack up and
    take his trolling to more fertile ground.” 22 Oct 2006


    63- KK: ‘Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your sentence with
    “Ah” like you’d just realized something profound.’ 29 Oct 2008


    64- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): “Funny how you simply don’t bother reading
    the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of putrid
    excrescence. Maybe some day you’ll learn how to support your position,
    instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, hoping it’ll
    all go away.” 7 Mar 2006


    65- Ku Karlovsky (cola): “You repeatedly chastise others for ad hominem
    attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks. You
    make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You’re a
    liar and a hypocrite and you always have been.” 14 Jul 2005


    66- Lars Trager: “Yes, you are stupid.” 7 Jan 2006


    67- Lawrence D’Oliveiro (COLA): “You seem to be full of complaints about
    your inability to hold up your end
    of the argument, aren?t you?” 16 Mar 2011


    68- Lefty Bigfoot: “Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long time, but
    the few times you post something worth reading just aren’t worth it
    anymore. *plonk*” 16 Dec 2006


    69- Liam Slider (cola): “Maybe he’s responding to the fact you’ve been an
    annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense of
    trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is trashtalk
    about Linux and you acting every bit the troll.” 16 Jul 2005


    70-libcrushersmith: “Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors CBS News
    and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit is cornered, he
    changes the subject and will never admit he’s wrong.” 28 Jan 2009


    71- libsnightmare: “You’re a sore loser who has resorted to fifth grade
    tactics. How fucking sad – all this clown has left is to edit posts and
    post fake bullshit. You can’t debate… so you lie. Once again, you have
    proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad…” 4 May 2009


    72- Linonut (cola): “Snit may be the first retraction of my general
    killfile amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping, back-
    tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by that effete
    candy-ass beggars belief”. 30 Aug 2008


    73- Lloyd Parsons: “Well, I don’t know if Oxford is the most cretinous, I
    would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)” 18 Mar 2005


    74- Lewis: “hasn’t this fight been going on for like 8 years now? I don’t
    think anything is ever going to fix snit.” 02 Mar 2010


    75- Lusotec (COLA): “You have started threads on this subject many times,
    and many times it has been explained to you how X copy & paste should
    work and how bugs in a application are not bugs in the system, but still
    you return to this subject and post the same false statements.” 09 Mar


    76- Marious Barrier (COLA): “I must recognize that it is the first time I
    see that kind of troll, once that start asking moderately serious
    questions and since the first answer, gradually starts to degenerate it
    by, in many failed attempts of being sarcastic, inserting various
    indirect insults and calling all people ignorant and unable to answer
    what he asks for.” 14 Oct 2010


    77- Mark Kent (cola): “The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the
    same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would be
    impossible to determine where the honesty starts and the usual dishonesty
    ends. In my primary school, one of the teachers was very keen on
    proverbs, and I recall her going over the “cry wolf” story. Mr Glasser
    could “cry wolf” over and over now, and I would not come to help him with
    his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if he’s ever
    telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has.” 2 Dec 2006


    78- Mayor of R’lyeh: “The fact is that he’s probably pulling it to this
    post since its all about him and he managed to make me think about him
    today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her house and
    videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then burned a DVD
    of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad
    because we quit making him the center of attention and made that kid on
    the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
    block our view of it. That’s how Snit lives his whole life.” 30 Sep 2006


    79- McGarnagle: “And you know when Snit is endorsed by two of the biggest
    nutjobs in AGA – RichL and El Kabong – you know he’s not very bright and
    a loon.” 31 Oct 2008


    80- Michelle Ronn: “The real topic here is that one someone refutes your
    ‘facts’, you run away and ignore them. Refuting your ‘facts’ is easily
    done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it.” 9 Feb 2007


    81- Mike: “Nonsense. I never see you “advocate” anything. All I see you
    doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with everyone. You’re the
    TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that’s *not* a compliment!” 8 Jul 2006


    82- Mike Dee: “I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I can
    only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to
    inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged you
    actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional

    “The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot made no
    threat to you before you went to the police. She made a promise.
    Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out paranoiac view point, Elizabot
    was suddenly “threatening” to you. In so much as you had to take your
    kooky self down to your local police shop and blub on their shoulders
    about how much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they had to waste
    valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity. I bet they have
    Kook with a capital “K” written at the top of your profile, Snit.” 2 Sep


    83- mmoore321: “Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
    rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious. Treat
    him the same way, look but just keep moving on.” 18 Aug 2006


    84- Mojo: “Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they are off-
    topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring and clearly show
    that you are crying out for attention.” 20 Sep 2006


    85- Mr. Blonde: “Lastly, I can’t help but comment on the fact that your
    obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you claimed to KF him.
    Killfilling someone generally implies you’re ignoring that person, yet
    you piggyback onto virtually every reply to him here and and check his
    website’s validation status more often than most people check their e-
    mail. These are not the actions of a mentally balanced individual.” 19
    Jan 2007


    86- MR_ED_of_Course: “Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
    kindergarten and see if the kids there can’t teach you a thing or two
    about social behavior.” 16 May 2004


    87- Muahman: “Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit retard
    circus!!! I actually dread seeing Snit reply to a thread because that
    automatically means it’s in the toilet.” 8 Jul 2009


    88- Mutley (AUK): “For the record … I’ll be done when I decide that
    there’s more shit on your face than there is on the sole of my shoe.” 01
    Nov 2009


    89- Nashton/Nasht0n: “Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn’t convinced that
    snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly am
    now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?” 29 Nov 2004


    90- New Bee: “Honest and honorable? You? You’ve either got a wry sense of
    humor, or you’re completely nuts. Either way you’re just a waste of time,
    and you’ve done more than anybody to make this group a cesspool. Then you
    revel in wallowing in your own filth.” 14 May 2007


    91- none of your buisiness (COLA): “I am sorry, but I am going to have to
    send you to the bin. You’re perpetrating the Snit circus by responding to
    all of his assinine posts. He is only here for one reason, to disrupt
    this group, & you are helping him, as well as flatfish.” 04 Jan 2011


    92- Not Important: “I get this mental image of you and a sibling as
    children in the back seat of the family car saying:
    Mom, ‘snits’ touching me … and you responding much as you do now …
    I’m not touching you, you’re touching me! The problem is that by now you
    should’ve grown out of that type of poke and complain interaction with
    others. But, of course, you’ve haven’t learned how to interact with
    others in a more ‘constructive’ and mutually beneficial manner even
    now.” 03 Jul 2007


    93- notlisted (COLA): “I actually like Apple. But I see you as an
    asshole who spends an embarassing percentage of your life posting
    derogatory comments about a computer operating system you obviously
    detest, and insulting those who defend it in a newsgroup dedicated its
    advocacy. That’s almost the definition of being an asshole, and you have
    half a dozen buddies who do the same thing. You excuse what you do by
    pretending that you’re merely pointing out problems in the hope that the
    system will be improved, but that’s an obvious lie whether it’s you
    saying it or one of your buds. You do it because you enjoy the feeling
    it gives you, whatever that is.” 07 Mar 2011


    94- OldCSMAer: “What’s he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I killfiled
    him?” 27 Nov 2006


    95- OldSage: “What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and desire
    to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of things.” 2 Oct


    96- Oxford: “If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending Author,
    example Snit… Go to the Filters Menu, Choose ‘Kill this Author’ Click
    ‘OK’ Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice. Then to see
    your work… Choose the Filter Menu again, Then ‘Refilter Articles’…
    Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!” 14
    Aug 2004


    97- Owl (COLA): “You have interacted with me often enough to know that I
    never initiate personal attacks. I generally respond in kind. It is you
    who usually fall off the civility wagon first, with your ironically
    condescending canned responses that do nothing for your argument and
    generally shine a spotlight on the desperation that you are so fearful of
    projecting.” 5 Mar 2011


    Owl (COLA): “You are a complete idiot and extremely dishonest. Consider
    yourself permanently plonked.” 29 Mar 2011


    98- Patrick Nihill: “I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
    something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that matter, Snit, for
    whom the work ‘troll’ seems so painfully inadequate?” 13 Aug 2006


    99- Pawel Wojciak: “Jesus Christ, snit… ” 27 Jun 2006


    100- PC Guy: “Forget it Snit, you’re a waste of time. For someone who
    talks about everyone else not being “honest and honorable” you appear to
    be the least honest and honorable of anyone here.” 22 Apr 2007


    101- Peter: “I’ve never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher
    but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten seconds
    later and he’s gone! Amazing.” 30 Dec 2004


    102- Peter Bjorn Perlso: “Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take your
    argument with sandman into the private room.” 13 Dec 2006


    103- Peter Hayes: “True, but that removes Snit completely, and someti…
    err….. occasiona…. errrrr….. once in a blue moon he has something
    useful to say.” 20 Mar 2007


    104- Peter Jensen (cola): “Where has he ever said that they were not
    different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has told
    me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence.” 30 Jun 2005


    105- Peter Kohlmann (cola): “Snot Glasser is invading this group with his
    inane drivel, so he has to bear what people think about that dishonest
    retard. And just for the record: You *are* a Glasser sock” 30 Jan 2010


    106- PeterBP: “Oh will you stfu”. 30 Mar 2008


    107- Phil Earnhardt: “You’re only interested in trying to get superficial
    snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions.” 1 Nov 2004


    108- Rapskat (cola): “For instance, your sig you reference a long
    standing war you have going with some person from csma. It’s like you
    single out persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously
    berate them with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious
    responses, which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above
    all things, your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature
    aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose for
    frequenting this and other groups is to troll.” 07 Sep 2005


    109- RichardK: “Just killfile him already.” 20 Jun 2006


    110- Rick (cola): “Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash
    people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous
    situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going
    on.” 06 Sep 2005


    111- Rick G.: “Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a troll.
    I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he
    is … somewhat clumsy.” 22 Mar 2005


    112- Robert F.: “Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don’t care if you quote
    Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the shell of
    a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk of looking
    ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If that’s your goal,
    you’re on the right track, and more power to you.” 11 Jan 2006


    113- RonB (COLA): “Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who’s thing is
    twisting your words so he can win an argument against a straw man. That’s
    enough to killfile him.” 1 Jan 2009


    RonB: (COLA): “Why do you bother responding to Snit? He makes no point,
    he simply gainsays whatever you say. Just another version of Hadron’s
    ‘you’re a liar’ mantra, which is about all he can muster nowadays.” 27
    May 2010


    RonB (COLA): “Original subject line now killfiled. You can only talk
    about the freaking clipboard for so many million freaking messages. As I
    said, Snit has no common-sense, STOP mechanism. He’s a mechanically
    obsessive super crank and will go on forever. I’m not kidding about this,
    he will *NEVER* *ever* stop.” 6 Mar 2011


    114- Rotten Apple: “You make trolls like me look like choir boys.” 14 Sep


    115- Roy Culley (cola): “You appear to be in the latter category.
    Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to generate
    a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it can
    help you and your supposed users why aren’t you requesting help from a
    more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old saying
    goes, those who can do, those who can’t teach. Your posts seem to confirm
    that saying IMHO.” 12 Mar 2005


    116- S’mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): “Liar…forger and worthless. You
    must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much as you.”
    29 Dec 2008


    117- Sandman: “He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY- of
    csma. I’ve never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news group
    before. He has the ability to turn just about any person against him in
    just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part
    with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN’T consider himself be a
    troll – damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are
    wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour.” 18 Mar 2005


    118- sav: “You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly, even
    the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense than
    this. You been doing drugs or something?” 25 May 2006


    119- Sean Burke: If you’re dumb enough to respond to snit, you’re
    probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to
    remove smut from your harddrive.” 21 Jan 2005


    120- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
    Snit: “Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me…”
    Sermo Malifer: “Because you’re a narcissistic troll who posts trash just
    to get people talking about you.” 21 Jan 2009


    121- spike1: “As for the original post, there’s plenty of reason thought
    and criteria. The reason is snit’s here. The thought is probably to show
    everyone here just how bad a troll snit is.” 03 Dec 2006


    122- ShutterBugz: “so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing anger,
    i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks
    he’s making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he’s pretty
    smart. indeed, he tells us, he’s done the personality tests and the iq
    tests and he’s okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he’s soooooooo well adjusted.”
    3 Mar 2004


    123- Steel (COLA): “You may not like the game, but nevertheless, it’s
    just a game. You play a game yourself don’t kid yourself.” 14 Oct 2010


    124- Steve Carroll: “Snit isn’t much more than a one trick pony and not
    telling the whole story is one of his two main tricks. His other main
    trick is to outright lie. Sprinkle in a bit of denial and you’ve gone a
    long way towards defining his MO. The idea that Snit admits to his
    errors is one of the biggest jokes on usenet.” 28 Feb 2010


    125- Steve Mackay: “Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of elephant
    dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the “Snit Circus”,
    but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like
    elephant dung.” 18 Aug 2004


    126- Steven de Mena: “Sorry, you have now lost all credibility with me
    for your rediculous argument regarding this.” 26 Sep 2006


    127- Steve Travis: “Oh oh… Now look what we’ve done. Snit has lost
    all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like ‘asses’
    when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally superior snit have
    fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule to feel
    embarassed for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more
    happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags).” 27 Mar 2005


    128- Stuart Krivis: “You might as well just give up and plonk him then. A
    snit is a snit is a snit and always will be.” 15 Aug 2006 (post not
    available except in reply)


    129- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): “In other words, in another attempt to troll,
    you made yourself look like a fool. Again”. 28 Aug 2008


    130- thanatoid: “Is business/personal life/etc. SO bad that you had to
    create Snit? I really thought higher of you until Snit came in here, in
    fact I find your site very nice and wish there was a shop like yours
    where I live (well, I /think/…) Or is Snit really just someone whose HD
    you accidentally wiped? Either way, it seems to have created a lot of,
    for lack of a better word, unpleasantness – just from looking at today’s
    headers.” 02 Jul 2008


    131- The Lost Packet (COLA): “well, he’s found a seat in my killbin, I
    can’t be doing with him.” 27 Jan 2009


    132- TheLetterK: “That is merely your perception, Shit. You’re the one
    lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically amount to “I’m
    right, nya nya nya.” No matter how many examples someone points at to
    demonstrate their claim, you blindly continue to insist that they provide
    no evidence, or that the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still, you
    fall back on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the
    argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that inhabit CSMA,
    Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than you are.” 23 Sep 2006


    133- Thufir: “You can “prove” that no one has disproved your “proof”?
    Again, your assertion that no one has done so is even *less* convincing
    than your claim that some PDF “proves” whatever point you’re trying to
    make precisely because I’m familiar with your MO. That is, you’re a dumb-
    ass who would claim that that something is proved when it’s not, and who
    would ignore counter-examples disproving your contention. I don’t know
    what this *ages old* thread is about, but I know that you’re full of
    shit.” 21 Aug 2008


    134-Tim Adams: “I’d kill file you but then I’d miss the fun. you see, you
    never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just the
    other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in this
    NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar.” 13 Nov 2004


    135- Tim Crowley: “I don’t know – I think you might have more compassion.
    Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor sick fool can
    get attention. My fucking God, he’s taken to hanging out with and
    supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one likes
    him and those that pretend they do are just using him or don’t know him -
    but come on- it’s not his fault. He’s sick. Have some compassion, eh? All
    these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit – they are
    all so alike. I pity each and every one of them” 19 Apr 2006


    136- Tim Smith: “No, he didn’t, and there is no reasonable way you could
    actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here.” 14 Apr


    137- Timberwoof: “Plonk, Snit.” 23 Apr 2006


    138- tom_elam: “Killfile Steve C. and Snit” 07 Jul 2006


    139- TomB (COLA): “No Snit, you were flat out lying in an attempt to make
    me look bad. Do you really have to sink to that level in order to ‘be
    right’? If so, you’re pathetic. And I don’t say this because I like to
    say it.” 07 Feb 2010


    140- Tom Bates: “Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one of
    your Circus acts?” 20 Feb 2006


    141- Tommy: “In case you did not get it, I think the moral was: Stop
    polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive “writings”. You
    give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your goal you have succeeded!
    That also goes for all that bullshit on your website” 11 Jun 2004


    142- Tony(UK) (COLA): “Your email address in your headers just about sums
    the Linux world up. Nothing to do with the OS, it is the *uckwits
    involved in the whole arena and have posted before on this. If in doubt,
    deride, insult and attack. Look inwardly carefully before judging me.”
    10 Dec 2009


    143- TravelinMan: “I still can’t figure out what’s wrong with Snit. Most
    people have him kill-filed and the few who don’t mostly restrict their
    responses to ‘why don’t you go away, no one wants you here’. Just what
    would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must be some
    kind of severe mental illness.” 17 Mar 2005


    144- Wally: “Because by your own admission “honor and honesty” are
    nothing more than a “game” to you, as such not only do you wish to define
    the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the rules
    when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I doubt
    anyone would be foolish enough to play your game.” 16 May 2004


    145- WhoMe: “F michael IS a teacher, it’s no wonder he’s home more than
    he’s anywhere near a classroom”.

    146- William Poaster: “Good grief. If anyone’s having a mental breakdown
    it’s the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser. What a f#cked up
    mess he is.” 29 Aug 2008


    147- William R. Walsh: “Now, if you’ll excuse me, and accept my sincere
    apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You’re the first person
    to be plonked from my new computer! :-) ” 10 Feb 2005


    148- Woofbert: “*Plonk*” 14 Jun 2004


    149- zara: “Look – I’m not into combing through thousands of posts, to
    prove what was said or not said – I leave stuff like that to people
    without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in the record. Ping Snit
    to do a search – you will flatter him, and give meaning to his tawdry
    little life.” 25 Oct 2006


    150- Zaren Ankleweed: “And with that, Snit goes in the global killfile.
    No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye”. 11 Sep 2004


    151- Znu: “The Snit Circus has gotten particularly bad as of late. When I
    set up my filters to kill all of Snit’s posts, plus direct replies to
    them (which is how I’m keeping things from now on), nearly 40% of the
    most recent 1000 articles in CSMA go out the window. …. In all,
    something like 50% of the traffic in this group is now related to Snit
    insanity. …. I killfile Edwin because I don’t have a patience to have
    discussions with someone who deliberately tries to waste my time. But
    watching *other people* tie him knots can be entertaining. The Snit-
    related posts are not like this. They are endless repetitions of the
    exact same material and/or arguments dating back *years* about who said
    what.” 20 Apr 2008


    152- amicus_curious (COLA): “Where on earth do you get the idea that I am
    arguing with you, little man? Is your name “Hadron”? Shoo! Go back to
    your mail order business!” 29 May 2011


    153- nessuno (COLA):
    Chris Ahlstrom: “Have you ever noticed that threads involving Snit, [...]
    are a basically a waste of time?
    nessuno: “Yep. I don’t read them.” 29 May 2011


    154- Marti Van Lin (COLA): “I paid enough attention to Snit IMHO. I
    killfiled him the very first month I started lurking COLA. I find his
    nitpicking and immature behavior extremely annoying. I am not going to
    torture myself reading his bullshit. Snit is also a proven liar. Remember
    his retarded exif debacle.” 08 Jul 2011


    155- White Spirit (COLA): “It would interest me a lot more if both the
    participants were honest and intelligent. Snit is lacking at least one
    of those characteristics.” 25 Jul 2011


    Michael Reply:

    Now Roy… I notice you are using the same list of obsessively scavenged and forged quotes as HPT. Tsk Tsk.

    I am not “stalking” you. I am responding to your public blog. I am making no effort to find out anything about your private life or anything else a “stalker” would do. Nor am I suggesting I would – I would find that completely inappropriate.

    I am pointing out your lies and your FUD. Why not comment on that? Why not comment on your lies about me – such as the one I quote above?

    Needs Sunlight Reply:

    How much do you get paid to troll here?

  3. High Plains Thumper said,

    September 3, 2011 at 8:41 pm


    Roy, excellent article, I see Apple cast from the same mould as Microsoft and its evangelism. I also see Mr. Michael Glasser Snit continuing as the same troll that he has been for over 7 years. Here is a key quote:

    25- Dawg Tail: “PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many diverse people who share a common perception where do you think the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn’t require an advanced degree to figure out.” 30 Dec 2004


    Snit claims these links are forged, but they are not, they are actual quotes and the user is permitted to follow the threads in Google Groups as well.

    Sincerely, HPT

    Michael Reply:

    Many of those quotes are forged – heck, you *accuse* me of having posted as some of those people. In other words, you make self-contradictory accusations.

    But it is not what people say of you which matters – it is what *you* say. And I stand behind my words.

    Why not stand behind yours and show evidence that I posted as Joel Crumpp and that the following video is “forged”:


    You have accused me of both. And a lot more. And you do so repeatedly.

    So here, in a public forum, I challenge you to show evidence.

    But you will run. 100% predictable. But do not worry: Roy will back your claims. As I have noted, he is not honest either.

    High Plains Thumper Reply:

    Being the liar that you are Michael, you are incapable of facing the truth. You use your website to post evidence that you altered but express as original, if nothing else to continue your anti-Linux agenda.

    Snit wrote:

    > Desktop Linux has grown a *lot* over the last few years…
    > amazingly so, really. No reason to think that will stop or
    > even slow – despite the over-the-top reactions in COLA to
    > people admitting there are problems with Linux.

    Snit: “Here are some of the inconsistencies (and other oddities) I have documented in a relatively recent versions of desktop Linux: From PCLOS: Poorly done menus

    HPT: “Very nit picky, making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    “Exit” versus “Quit”? You’re kidding.”

    Snit: “Poorly done dialogs:

    HPT: “Dialogs cut off? There is a slider bar at the bottom, and one can resize the dialogue box. Looks like you resized the dialogue box to suit your anti-Linux agenda.”

    Snit: “Poorly done and Inconsistent dialogs:

    HPT: “You moved and dragged the task bar, aligned vertical with the side of the screen. That is freedom and for you it is a problem? Buttons cut off by default? I did what you did by
    shinking the window. FireFox shows “>>”, which shows the
    remainder of that favourites toolbar menu, not as you show.”

    Snit: “Mouse pointers that do not do as they say:

    HPT: “In this case, file window dialogue box did not stretch, but all text items are visible, fully functional. Windows XP does the same. This is okay for Microsoft software but not okay for Linux? Who are you kidding?”

    Snit: “Even Ubuntu has its share of quirks – though it is clearly
    done much better: ”

    HPT: “What is unusual about individual expression of how menus are set up in applications? I see the same thing with Windows software. Adobe’s menu items differ from Corel’s, differ from Ulead.”

    Snit: “And the more recent one showing copy and paste oddities and weird text behavior on selection:
    It is not like such examples are hard to find – or are not obvious.”

    HPT: “Oh, really? I just copied in FireFox, pasted in gedit, it
    works fine. This is with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and FireFox 3.0.5.
    Here it is again, same text you highlighted:

    Prescott Computer Guy is a family run business located in
    Prescott, Arizona. My wife, Anne, does most of the “behind the scenes” work and I, Michael, get to do the fun part: working with the public and playing with fun toys. Don’t tell her, but I think I get the better end of the deal!

    Altered video wizardry? There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu copy and paste.”

    George Barca: “I suppose you could say Gimp vs Photoshop however people using either of those programs are most likely professionals and will take the time to learn the differences if they need to move between the two.

    Snit: “It is not a question of learning the difference… no
    doubt people can use, for example, any of the different Save
    dialogs I show in my above links. Still leads to lost work,
    frustration, and lost time.”

    HPT: “No, rather it is another example of Snit moving the goal
    posts, creating problems that do not exist except for an
    invention of his own mind.” 29 Jan 2009


    Alias: “Copying and pasting or cutting and pasting is a bit
    different in Ubuntu. Note that the lamer who made this video
    didn’t know that you can select something and then just click the wheel on your mouse and it will paste, something you can’t do with Windows and is much quicker than the lame Windows way in the video.” 19 Apr 2009


    Thus Snit demonstrates his only purpose in COLA is to FUD Linux.

    Here, I posted about your socks with a link to Sandman’s site that you lie about:



    Here, Wally proved you nymshifting as Rhino Plastee:


    Here is Snit as sock Joel Crump:

    Of course he is Snit masquerading! Those in comp.sys.mac.advocacy (CSMA) have seen Snit’s shenanigans, how he operates with sock puppets. Joel speaks with the timbre of Rhino Plastee, another Snit sock.

    Here’s Snit at his best:

    Soutien du Modérateur: “Following are 132 poster accounts on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:”
    Joel Crump: “And that’s supposed to convince someone that they are the good guys? Please. I’ll take one decent poster like Snit over a thousand idiot trolls, any day.” 29 Nov 2009



    Also here is another note. Being the attention seek that you are Michael and that to reply to you is mostly a waste of oxygen and bandwidth, I see no further reason to continue this discussion.


    Michael Reply:

    Seriously, what part of that do you think supports your BS accusations?

    You claim I forged the video and posted as Joel Crumpp… but where is the *evidence*? Do you even know what that means? Hint: it does not mean repeating the same accusation and more.

    If you want to get into Sandman’s lies and the like we can – but first I want you to try to back your accusations.

    What *evidence* do you have that I forged the copy/paste video linked above?

    What *evidence* do you have I posted as Joel Crumpp?

    Being that you are lying about both things, of course, you will never provide evidence. But do at least try!

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  1. IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 28, 2023

    IRC logs for Saturday, January 28, 2023

  2. Unmasking AI

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  3. The ISO Delusion/Sirius Corporation: A 'Tech' Company Run by Non-Technical People

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  4. Links 28/01/2023: Lots of Catching Up (Had Hardware Crash)

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  5. IRC Proceedings: Friday, January 27, 2023

    IRC logs for Friday, January 27, 2023

  6. Microsoft DuckDuckGo Falls to Lowest Share in 2 Years After Being Widely Exposed as Microsoft Proxy, Fake 'Privacy'

    DuckDuckGo, according to this latest data from Statcounter, fell from about 0.71% to just 0.58%; all the gains have been lost amid scandals, such as widespread realisation that DuckDuckGo is a Microsoft informant, curated by Microsoft and hosted by Microsoft (Bing is meanwhile laying off many people, but the media isn’t covering that or barely bothers)

  7. This is What the Microsoft-Sponsored Media Has Been Hyping Up for Weeks (Ahead of Microsoft Layoffs)

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  8. [Meme] António Campinos Wants to Be F***ing President Until 2028

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  9. European Patent Office Staff Losing Hope

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  10. IRC Proceedings: Thursday, January 26, 2023

    IRC logs for Thursday, January 26, 2023

  11. Sirius Relegated/Demoted/Destined Itself to Technical Hell by Refusing to Listen to the Technical Staff (Which Wanted to Stay With Asterisk/Free Software)

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  12. Geminispace Approaching Another Growth Milestone (2,300 Active Capsules)

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  13. [Meme] Cannot Get a Phone to Work... in 2022

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  14. [Meme] Modern Phones

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  15. The ISO Delusion: Sirius Corporation Demonstrates a Lack of Understanding of Security and Privacy

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  16. Links 26/01/2023: LibreOffice 7.4.5 and Ubuntu Pro Offers

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  17. Links 26/01/2023: GNU poke 3.0 and PipeWire 0.3.65

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  18. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 25, 2023

    IRC logs for Wednesday, January 25, 2023

  19. Companies Would Collapse Upon Abandoning Their Original Goals (That Attracted All the Productive Staff)

    Staff with technical skills won't stick around in companies that reject technical arguments and moreover move to proprietary software in a company that brands itself "Open Source"

  20. [Meme] Listen to Your Workers, Avert Disaster

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  21. The ISO Delusion: When the Employer Doesn’t Understand the Company's Value Proposition (Building Systems) and Rejects Security

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  22. Links 25/01/2023: NuTyX 23.01.1 and GNU Guile 3.0.9 Released

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  23. Links 25/01/2023: Stratis 3.5.0 and Many Political Links

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  24. New Record Low: Only One 'Linux' Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks

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  25. Links 25/01/2023: Pale Moon 32.0 and DXVK 2.1

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  26. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, January 24, 2023

    IRC logs for Tuesday, January 24, 2023

  27. ISO Certification Hardly Tackles Any of the Real Issues

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  28. [Meme] Medical Data Sovereignty

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  29. The ISO Delusion: Sirius Open Wash Ltd. and Medical Data/Projects at Risk/Peril

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  30. Links 24/01/2023: Wine 8.0 is Ready, FSF Bolsters Copyleft

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