Bonum Certa Men Certa

LibrePlanet Mailing List Censored Questions About Ukraine. Now It's Not Willing to Talk About IBM's Red Bait (RHEL) and Associated GPL Issues. (Updated)

A lot of the debate about this was contained in sites tied to Jim Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft (GPL bashers who exploit/enslave geeks for money); there seems to be no room for discussion in GPL-centric sites.

I censor IBM's critics and work with the Linux Foundation against the FSF



Summary: Freedom of speech/expression is as important as Software Freedom because one depends on the other and they're mutually connected; it's important to hear what the Free Software Foundation (FSF) thinks of the General Public Licence (GPL) being bypassed one little step at a time or to simply see in writing its stance about Red Hat and IBM, longtime sponsors of the FSF

THE year was 2012. FSF had openly and stubbornly opposed UEFI 'secure' boot, but Red Hat kept pushing hard for inclusion of this antifeature in Linux (even Linus Torvalds pushed back against that, using rather colourful language). We wrote a great deal about it back then (about 30 articles in half a year) and named the company -- not the person ('Gulagboy') -- as the culprit. We kept blasting Red Hat. So what changed after that? Why did Intel and Red Hat pay the FSF? And the FSF, instead of condemning the move, suddenly condoned the person who did this? Even gave him an award for it? This may always remain a mystery, an enigma subjected to guesswork at best.



"This may always remain a mystery, an enigma subjected to guesswork at best."Now, in 2023, there's a bit of a deja vu, not only because of last year's messages about Ukraine but due to questions about IBM repeatedly closing RHEL sources and slapping its CoC on GNU. Why does the FSF keep tolerating this abuse?

Today somebody who reads Techrights told us that the LibrePlanet-discuss isn't allowing his message to come through. This message wasn't about Ukraine or Russia. It wasn't off-topic either. It wasn't in any violation of any known rules. From what we've been told, it wanted to know the FSF's stance on what Red Hat did last week. There are good reasons to ask for that, notably the money-obsessed [1, 2] Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) 'butting in' and pretending to be the sole and most credible (even principal) guardian of the GPL, a licence crafted by the person that the SFC repeatedly sought to overthrow. To make matters a lot worse, the SFC has a track record of censoring IBM critics, threatening to even ban them. More recently the SFC hired one of the flag bearers of the movement to unseat Linus Torvalds, based on malicious distortions and deliberate lies. SFC hardly writes any software, so it is over-compensating by hugging pseudo-social causes.

What is going on here? If nobody from the FSF took the initiative to E-mail a reply (in person) to the sender (like in the case of Ukraine; Greg did respond off the list), and moreover the message was blocked from the mailing list, what can a person deduce? It's easy to deduce that this is IBM censorship or FSF staff trying to save face for Red Hat. The sender told us that "it seems to be IBM censorship" (denying the very visibility of the message).

"The bottom line is, it'll help to see an official FSF statement on what Red Hat/IBM did about RHEL.""It did go to the list so the moderator did see it," we got told and the "SFC attempting to position itself as speaking for the GPL is quite wrong."

Since then a message to that same list got approved but only Greg's (FSF staff). There are miscellaneous FSF-maintained things that don't work (for example, the Savannah RSS feeds give invalid links for nearly 6 months already), but the above seems like censorship (for IBM) rather than a technical mishap.

The bottom line is, it'll help to see an official FSF statement on what Red Hat/IBM did about RHEL. Richard Stalllman can formulate a statement, the GNU project can publish its position on the matter (if that's not already a CoC violation), and the FSF's site blogs rather seldom, so certainly it can find the time to issue a statement.

"We hope that the FSF will issue a clear response over the coming few days."An organisation where silence (lack of criticism) can be bought is likely to slide down the barometer -- to the point of selling promotions.

What makes (or made) the FSF so great is that it's not afraid to throw punches and criticise. This is what made it a common target of defamatory smear campaigns and the target of lynchmob-led boycotts. That's just what happens when institutions do the right thing and "enrage" corporations. The oligarchs revolt.

We hope that the FSF will issue a clear response over the coming few days. Dozens of people openly expressed their views -- even existing and former Red Hat staff -- so why can't the formal steward of the GPL?




Update: Earlier today, 3 days after the message had been sent, it finally became visible. To quote:

FSF statement on RHEL policy change?



Several sites have been covering IBM's change to the workflow and licensing concerning RHEL and management of the relevant source code. I'll point to Jeff Geerling's blog about that since he has already adapted his own work flow accordingly:

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/removing-official-support-red-hat-enterprise-linux

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/dear-red-hat-are-you-dumb

But there are many others already.

Perhaps a statement is already being drafted by the FSF, if not then it is time to begin. I realize it takes time to formulate a thoughtful, on target, diplomatic response to such a move as IBM has taken, but as stewards of the GPL, the FSF probably ought to speak up sometime soon before other voices exploit the silence to the detriment of Software Freedom.

Recent Techrights' Posts

European Patent Office (EPO) Series: Czech Mate: EPO Kingmaker or Merely a Pawn in the Game?
recent "missions" of the EPO President
SLAPP Censorship - Part 131 Out of 200: A Big Win for the Media in the United Kingdom (UK) Today
In a democratic society the Right to Know, which is closely connected to freedom of the press (or what one might label "blogging" or "blag"), comes above all else, except where there are lives being put at risk
IBM's Fedora Plans to Integrate Slop Into "Fedora Workstation as a Default Feature."
IBM does not care whether the community wants this or not
The Media Talks a Lot About XBox Layoffs, a Closer Look at the Data Shows Microsoft 'Bloodbath'
'Bloodbath' is the term insiders use
 
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 07, 2026
IRC logs for Tuesday, July 07, 2026
Links 07/07/2026: Microsoft Cuts Doom "id Software" and Turkey Detains Journalists
Links for the day
Gemini Links 07/07/2026: Old Computer Challenge (OCC) and Hardware Tests
Links for the day
A Break From the Routine
What matters is what whistleblowers keep feeding information to us
SLAPP Censorship - Part 132 Out of 200: When You Cannot Pay a Million Pounds (1,335,520.00 United States Dollar) to Lawyers But Have a Strong Community
Techrights compensates for its fiscal poverty with a wealth of community spirit
Fame is Not the Goal
"Fame" kills
Mental Health in Free Software Communities
clearly there is a subject that merits debate and it ought not be a taboo anymore
The Era of Sponsored Spam
There is no "era of AI", there is era of BRIBES to PRETEND there is an "era of AI"
Gemini Links 07/07/2026: Cleaning, Old Computer, and More
Links for the day
Links 07/07/2026: Le Monde Combats LLM Slop Plagiarism, "ACLU Launches Largest Ever Midterm Electoral Program"
Links for the day
Extremism in the Free Software World is Mostly a Myth
Only the firm belief that justice applies to all will produce a just society
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 06, 2026
IRC logs for Monday, July 06, 2026
Links 07/07/2026: Kernelized Secure Operating System (KSOS) and "Exploiting Thoughtcrime in LLMs"
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 130 Out of 200: Jealousy, Envy, Hubris
This site is primarily about Free software
Gemini Links 06/07/2026: Still Mostly Dry, GoToSocial, and More
Links for the day
European Patent Office (EPO) Series: Effective Dispute Resolution… But Not For EPO Staff
Slovenia fielded one of the few Administrative Council delegations which managed to maintain its own independent line against the tyrannical EPOnian "Sun King"
Community Sites Need Genuine Collaboration and True Autonomy
People who want to communicate, federate and organise for effective change need to evolve
Free Software Foundation (FSF) Covers Quibble, Free Software for Secure Communications, in the FSF Summer Bulletin
The Georgia Tech folks are bringing Free software education and contributions to one of the better known Computer Science hubs in the US
Microsoft Layoffs Include Windows, Bing, Slop (CoPilot etc.) and There Will More More Rounds (or Waves) to Come
"43% of Xbox laid off"
Obscene Contradiction in Microsoft's Layoffs Tally ("Official" Numbers Do Not Add Up)
Notice how they treat "LinkedIn" as separate
Preserving Comments About the Real IBM Before They Get Deleted
IBM in the 1980s is not what it is right now
Cybershow on "Escaping Prisons For Your Mind"
"THE CYBER SHOW: Stealing technofascism's boots, and stomping on its own face with them."
Links 06/07/2026: At Least 20% Staff Reduction in XBox (Microsoft), Taiwan Sees Uptick in Chinese Aggression/Provocation, Senator Rodante Marcoleta Arrested
Links for the day
Confirmed: Microsoft Layoffs Come in Two Waves, Just Like Last Summer
To us, what stands out is the admission from Microsoft that there are two (or more) waves
In Praise of the UK's Stance on Free Speech (but Some Reservations)
At the moment there is a healthy discussion going on with the objective of disrupting attacks on British press
Exposing Corruption at the European Patent Office (EPO), a Call for More Whistleblowers
We predict that, provided enough whistleblowers speak out, António "the unready" won't even finish his current term
Leaving Our Pets for Several Days
This week our pets will be worried that "mommy and daddy" are away
Dating Trees and Dating 'Apps'
several high-profile stories in the news about scandals in "dating apps"
DW Documentary About Julian Assange Turns 2
It was released just days after Assange had turned 53 and about two weeks after he had left the UK
Independent Media is the Only Form of Legitimate Media
Independent media is, indeed, what we need to demand more of
The Story of the European Patent Office (EPO) Wagging the Dog (EU)
The aim of the series is to properly inform the world - not just Europeans - how Europe's second-largest institution is run [...] How did a corporate hub of monopolies become so detached from the Rule of Law?
GNU/Linux Up to New High in Libya, Windows Down to All-Time Low
GNU/Linux touches 5% there, based on statCounter
Links 06/07/2026: Artists Reject Slop (or Even de Facto Bribes to Market/Endorse Slop)
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 129 Out of 200: Iranian Tactics
Hunger for revenge compels people to do overzealous, irrational things
Quiet Week
Many in the US are still enjoying an extended weekend
The Media Needs to Speak of Slop as a Climate Issue Like It Did With Bitcoin
But the slop industry keeps paying the media to play along with the hype
IBM's Fall
IBM's fate is closely connected to that of the Free software movement because of the salaries
Social Dialogue at the European Patent Office (EPO) is Dead, the Strikes and Work Stoppage-Like Actions Carry on
What next for the EPO?
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 05, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, July 05, 2026
Links 05/07/2026: Shadows of the Upper Peninsula and 2026 Old Computer Challenge
Links for the day