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schestowitz__> Dear Mr CostelloMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> I am writing to enquire about the suspension of Dr Roy Schestowitz’sMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> twitter account (@schestowitz).May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> Dr Schestowitz is a known software activist and independent researcherMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> who is widely respected in various circles of software technology andMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> legal/institutional research, and his writings and tweets have been usedMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> in various research papers and articles of peer-reviewed academicMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> journals, including in my scholarly articles.May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> I consider the suspension of his twitter account a violation of theMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> constitutional right of freedom of expression and especially of itsMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> highest form, i.e. political expression, given that Dr Schestowitz’sMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> tweets often concern issues of public interest. For this reason, I amMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> asking for a detailed explanation as to the arbitrary suspension of DrMay 01 05:17
schestowitz__> Schestowitz's account and for its due reinstatement.May 01 05:17
schestowitz__> May 01 05:18
schestowitz__> With best regardsMay 01 05:18
schestowitz__> May 01 05:18
schestowitz__> Lecturer in LawMay 01 05:18
schestowitz__Miraculously, a short moment after you had sent this Email, my account was reinstated.May 01 05:18
schestowitz__It was only moments ago, when I opened my email, that I was able to see the reason, and moreover correlate the times.May 01 05:18
schestowitz__Thanks to you I got another "soul" in that site.May 01 05:18
schestowitz__Amazing what one Email can achieve!May 01 05:18
schestowitz__Thank you!May 01 05:18
schestowitz__Regards,May 01 05:18
schestowitz__Re: Fwd: Twitter account suspension of an known activist Re: @schestowitzMay 01 05:44
schestowitz__>> I'm back ON!May 01 05:44
schestowitz__> Congratulations, I think.May 01 05:44
schestowitz__> May 01 05:44
schestowitz__> Ok, it's both good and bad.  You'll reach a subset of the population butMay 01 05:44
schestowitz__> will also be feeding the beast.  Every post from here on out ought to beMay 01 05:44
schestowitz__> angling towards weaning others off of it.May 01 05:44
schestowitz__When my account was reinstated last night several posts urging people to leave Twitter had already made it through. I am typically bringing that up when linking to articles about vaccine patents and COVID monopolies. You probably know what I mean and saw that already.May 01 05:44
schestowitz__My views on this have become more prevalent and widespread since the suspension in February.May 01 05:44
schestowitz__I've wiped the gemini logs clean. Should we configure this as a cron job for user 'gemini' to occur at each 23:50 of every last day of the month? I'm not sure of the syntax in crontab for "last day"... the script is purge-logs.sh under ~/binMay 01 05:48
Techrights-sec2There are several ways.  One would be to do the cron job on the first May 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2of the month.  The other would be to run towards the end of each monthMay 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2from the 28th onwards and just check whether May 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2[ date -d 'tomorrow' +'%d' eq 01 ] May 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2is true or not.May 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2Maybe logrotate would be a better way and just keep a stack of 0 or 1.May 01 05:51
schestowitz__first of the month would result, I think, in a file being missing for the logger. As happened just now when I experimented for the first time. Privacy policy ought to be automated, I think, in its implementation.May 01 05:51
Techrights-sec2rotate countMay 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2              Log files are rotated count times before being removed or mailedMay 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2              to the address specified in a mail directive. If count is 0, oldMay 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2              versions are removed rather than rotated. Default is 0.May 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2from logrotate.conf(5)May 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2I can set it up ( I think )May 01 05:58
schestowitz__I've just added to tmux the access program for geminiMay 01 05:58
Techrights-sec2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_DayMay 01 06:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | International Workers' Day - WikipediaMay 01 06:58
schestowitz__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAMEMay 01 07:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: en.wikipedia.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAME )May 01 07:00
schestowitz__https://www.arcade-museum.com/May 01 07:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.arcade-museum.com | Museum of the Game - Arcade, Videogame, Pinball Machine, Game, and Antique Coin-Operated History -- International Arcade MuseumMay 01 07:05
schestowitz__http://mamepedia.com/game/category/breakoutMay 01 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: mamepedia.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://mamepedia.com/game/category/breakout )May 01 07:11
schestowitz__Re: Certificate problem for https://techrights.org/May 01 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: techrights.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://techrights.org/ )May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> Hi Roy,May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> I saw in an online forum discussion that some people get error messagesMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> related to invalid certificates when they visit your techrights.orgMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> site.May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> For me, http://techrights.org/ works fine but https://techrights.org/ gMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> ives "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead" and info about aMay 01 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Welcome to TechrightsMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> certificate problem, about some old self-signed certificate.May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> May 01 07:52
schestowitz__> I think this gives some people a bad impression of your site, probablyMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> it would be good to either remove old certificates and make it a pureMay 01 07:52
schestowitz__> http site, or to add an up-to-date certificate (it's easy nowadaysMay 01 07:53
schestowitz__> using the "letsencrypt" tool).May 01 07:53
schestowitz__> May 01 07:53
schestowitz__> Best regards,May 01 07:53
schestowitz__Hi,May 01 07:53
schestowitz__We're a HTTP-only site (or Gemini) for now. Did someone link to it over HTTPS?May 01 07:53
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Techrights-sec2see ~/bin/rotate_gemini_logs.shMay 01 08:30
Techrights-sec2it does not delete anything yet and should be moved to /usr/local/bin                                                          May 01 08:30
Techrights-sec2before adding to cron and run at 00:01 the first day of each month   May 01 08:30
schestowitz__I have checked TR and gemini and cannot find this file. I even pulled from git, but nothing relevant in that path.May 01 08:31
schestowitz__at the moment the logger is not writing to any file, I think,  because I deleted today's file along with last month's.May 01 08:32
Techrights-sec2Maybe the script should be set to trap a signal, such as SIGHUP, and thenMay 01 08:34
Techrights-sec2rotate the logs or otherwise address the files name question.May 01 08:34
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schestowitz__I got the logging started again, daemon restarted. The purging of past logs can be done manually, just 12 times a year anyway, as I cannot (yet) find the script you made, I've checked everywhereMay 01 08:50
schestowitz__maybe it'll be easier to just delete every sunday instead of once a month because weeks unlike months are always 7 days longMay 01 08:51
schestowitz__Re: Certificate problem for https://techrights.org/May 01 08:57
schestowitz__> Hi,May 01 08:57
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__>> We're a HTTP-only site (or Gemini) for now. Did someone link to itMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__>> over HTTPS?May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> I think what happened is that a link was shared without either http://May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> or https:// -- it was just shared like this:May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> techrights.org/2021/04/29/cannot-upgrade-ubuntu/May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: --; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// -- )May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Then, I think, some browsers nowadays may try to use HTTPS by default.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> When comparing to a HTTP-only site that I have, this one: May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> http://ergoscf.org/May 01 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ergoscf.org | ErgoSCF main pageMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> then for that site if I type https instead of http, like thisMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> https://ergoscf.org/May 01 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Failed connect to ergoscf.org:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://ergoscf.org/ )May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> then that gives "Unable to connect" in Firefox.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> That is different compared to techrights site where if I enter May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> https://techrights.org in Firefox then I get "Warning: PotentialMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Security Risk Ahead" instead of "Unable to connect". So it behavesMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> differently.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> I'm not very good at these things so I could be wrong but my guess isMay 01 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: techrights.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/index/ )May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> that there is some old TLS certificate at the techrights web server, itMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> is somehow halfway configured to allow HTTPS which is why the "Warning:May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Potential Security Risk Ahead" warning comes up instead of "Unable toMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> connect". And maybe this confuses some browsers that try to use HTTPSMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> by default, such a browser may get the impression that it is a HTTPSMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> site even though that is not your intention.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> More details about the warning I get in Firefox when trying May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> https://techrights.org:May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> ---------------------------------------------------------May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> techrights.org uses an invalid security certificate. May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERTMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> ---------------------------------------------------------May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Then if I click "View Certificate" that shows some info includingMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> "Validity" of the certificate from 10 Apr 2018 to 10 Apr 2019. I attachMay 01 08:58
schestowitz__> a screenshot of how that looks.May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> May 01 08:58
schestowitz__> Anyway, it seems like there is some partial support for HTTPS on thatMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> web server and it seems to confuse some browsers in some situations,May 01 08:59
schestowitz__> perhaps it would be good to remove that to make it more clear that itMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> is a HTTP-only site. That might help avoiding some people getting aMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> negative impression of the site if they get warnings about certificatesMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> (even if it happens because they used a strange link).May 01 08:59
schestowitz__> May 01 08:59
schestowitz__> Again, this is not a problem for me personally, it's just that I sawMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> people complaining about it in a forum discussion and it took awayMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> focus from the real topic that the techrights post was about, insteadMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> they started to discuss how techrights had some kind of invalidMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> certificate, so I thought it would be good if such confustion could beMay 01 08:59
schestowitz__> avoided.May 01 08:59
Techrights-sec2tion.May 01 09:05
Techrights-sec2I've moved it into /usr/local/bin/rotate_gemini_logs.shMay 01 09:05
schestowitz__makes sense, I suppose we can test that. I also have my dirty script that just deletes all logs for all months. Let's ensure all those things are in git in case we  ever rebuild in the future. BTW, can Tim use your mumble server if we record (IF)?\May 01 09:08
Techrights-sec2Deleting on Sundays would be easy in cronMay 01 09:10
Techrights-sec2Sure.  There's even a space for TR there.May 01 09:10
Techrights-sec2It's available except during electrical xxxxxxxxxxxxx.May 01 09:10
Techrights-sec2Those are not so common until xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and even then not so common then either.May 01 09:10
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Techrights-sec2router upate. eta 30 minMay 01 15:48
Techrights-sec2^updateMay 01 15:48
Techrights-sec2ok all setMay 01 15:48
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1388503325851725824May 01 21:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: And they're spending them, unlike a corporate bailouts the market effect is notable. And, now, inflationary. https://t.co/3g9PxfOTXZMay 01 21:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Unexpected responseMay 01 21:27
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Techrights-sec2https://nitter.cc/Flavia0847/status/1388609496952475649#mMay 01 22:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: nitter.cc; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nitter.cc/Flavia0847/status/1388609496952475649#m )May 01 22:54

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