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schestowitz-TRregarding population explosion, yes, I am perfectly awareOct 13 07:41
Techrights-sec 13 07:42
Techrights-sec^ topic ?Oct 13 07:42
Techrights-sec 13 07:42
Techrights-sec# there are far cheaper, far more reliable MFA solutions than "smartphones"Oct 13 07:42
Techrights-secYubikey, Onlykey, Nitrokey, etc. all last many more years than a "smartphone"Oct 13 07:42
-TechrightsBN/ | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022Oct 13 07:42
Techrights-secand without the risk of remote compromise that comes with the "smartphones"Oct 13 07:42
-TechrightsBN/ | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022Oct 13 07:42
Techrights-secPushing out "smartphones" gives every appearance of a solution in search ofOct 13 07:42
Techrights-seca problem.  Are kickbacks or something similar involved?Oct 13 07:42
schestowitz-TRyou are thinking way ahead and over-estimate our 'talent'Oct 13 07:43
schestowitz-TRtwo of them have ZERO skills in tech and are just sleeping with a colleagueOct 13 07:43
schestowitz-TRthey use 'Linux'... in virtualbox in WindowsOct 13 07:43
schestowitz-TRso giving them yubikey is like buying a coffee machine capsule to someone in a congoese jungleOct 13 07:43
Techrights-secSo then it sounds like they are bending policy into something which justifiessOct 13 07:50
Techrights-secthem buying useless, expensive toys using the company's money.Oct 13 07:50
Techrights-secThey should just be upfront and ask for a PS5 for the one "employee"Oct 13 07:50
schestowitz-TRI have not even been sent a contract to sign yet and am considering the optionsOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRrianne keeps saying,Oct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRif we tolerate thig Oct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TR*thisOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRthe next stage might be, not you need to use "company laptop"Oct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRwith who-knows-what on itOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRwe have colleagues with use hypePhonesOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRthis is not the company I joined in Feb 2011Oct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRand we have NO security peopleOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRjust a bunch of self-appointing pretendersOct 13 07:53
schestowitz-TRback on the prior topic, any advice you can give would helpOct 13 08:00
schestowitz-TRas we are still not certain how to deal with thisOct 13 08:00
schestowitz-TRadding "cellphone" to the home based on false pretenses is surrendering to fraudsOct 13 08:00
schestowitz-TRa lot of it was (after 50 mins on phone), "we MIGHT find use for it in the future"Oct 13 08:00
schestowitz-TRmfa suually works with landline alsoOct 13 08:00
schestowitz-TRthey phone and read our a numbersOct 13 08:00
Techrights-secyes, the proposed "smartphone" deployment is fraudulent on several levels.Oct 13 08:02
Techrights-secIn other words, they have no use for it now and it is a solution in search ofOct 13 08:02
Techrights-seca problem.  :(Oct 13 08:02
Techrights-secJust-in-time is generally more cost efficient when dealing with rapidly  Oct 13 08:02
Techrights-secobsolete products that depreciate in both value and utility at a frenetic rate.Oct 13 08:02
Techrights-secIf they are truly interested in MFA then they should be looking around to seeOct 13 08:02
Techrights-secwhat options there are and which are most future-proof, least cost, andOct 13 08:02
Techrights-secleast maintenance.  That pretty much excludes all "smartphones".  Oct 13 08:02
schestowitz-TRackOct 13 08:02
Techrights-secThere are many kinds of 2FA.  Some call and speak a short number or code word.Oct 13 08:05
Techrights-secThat works independent of phone type.  Or if SMS is required (insecure in theOct 13 08:05
Techrights-secbig picture) then a 15 EUR feature phone will be far more cost effective.Oct 13 08:05
Techrights-secFurthermore, apps are generally just mutilated web browsers that have beenOct 13 08:05
Techrights-seclocked to a single site and never updated for security or other reasons.Oct 13 08:05
Techrights-sec 13 08:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nitrokey | Secure your digital lifeOct 13 08:05
Techrights-sec 13 08:05
-TechrightsBN/ | OnlyKey Hardware Password Manager | One PIN to rememberOct 13 08:05
schestowitz-TRsomeone from finland once sent me entropykeyOct 13 08:07
schestowitz-TRI still have it, but the drivers might be well out of dataOct 13 08:07
schestowitz-TRthat was back when I did GNU/Linux advocacy around 2007 or priorOct 13 08:07
Techrights-secWith the "smartphone" what happens when it is lost, stolen, broken, compromised,Oct 13 08:10
Techrights-secor the battery runs down?  Entropy keys would be useful on a server.  Oct 13 08:10
Techrights-secThere should be a spare "smartphone" to avoid denial of service in those        Oct 13 08:10
Techrights-secscenarios.  That's too expensive.  Oct 13 08:10
Techrights-secThis is probably the least expensive option,    Oct 13 08:10
Techrights-sec 13 08:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Security Key Series | YubiKeys | YubicoOct 13 08:10
Techrights-secleast expensiveOct 13 08:10
schestowitz-TRlike I said earlier, NO SECURITY_PROFICIENT PEOPLE make these decisionsOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRthey are frauds like SarinGasOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRand this is what we cannot acceptOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRI told him I've lectured even hospitals here on secuirty since age 22Oct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRI'm a lot more qualified than themOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRnot that I' a  a guru, it's really not my areaOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRand I often deal with outdated systems, though no more outdated than  $employer'sOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRdue to costs and sys admin constraints (we both know this; tessier was more hands-on)Oct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRto remind you, one org we support advocates human rights in iran and its staff is targetedOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRyou sometimes link to their siteOct 13 08:12
schestowitz-TRwith masturbating pretenders as "bosses" they can dieOct 13 08:12
Techrights-secYes, clearly frauds looking for an excuse to buy the most expensive modelOct 13 08:14
Techrights-secof "smartphone" for themselves using company money.Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secWhat models (specifically) of "smartphone" are they proposing or is Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secthere a hierarchy of expense.                      Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secMany of the newer hardware tokens even allow for NFC, something I am undecidedOct 13 08:14
Techrights-secabout, which would ease their use among those with such computers orOct 13 08:14
Techrights-sec"smartphones"Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secThey probably have multiple fatwas against them.  Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secIt sounds like if they wise up they will fire your boss either by sendingOct 13 08:14
Techrights-sechim on his way or by moving to a different provider.  Oct 13 08:14
Techrights-secackOct 13 08:14
schestowitz-TRlook up maxziar bahariOct 13 08:15
schestowitz-TRmaziarOct 13 08:15
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schestowitz-TRI've not yet received the thing they want signedOct 13 08:23
schestowitz-TRit might shed a clue on what we're being exposed to (if consenting)Oct 13 08:23
schestowitz-TRI would not spend money on lawyers if I can read it meticulously myselfOct 13 08:23
schestowitz-TRmy uncle us a judge, he gave me advice a few times in past yearsOct 13 08:23
schestowitz-TRI reckon it allows several "new" abuses and protects them in case of us suingOct 13 08:24
Techrights-secIn some jurisdictions one can strike out offending words, sentences, and Oct 13 08:24
Techrights-secparagraphs with a pen prior to signing.  Another trick is to ask for anOct 13 08:24
Techrights-secelectronic copy, and you edit it, print it out and then send the editedOct 13 08:24
Techrights-secversion back.  :POct 13 08:24
Techrights-secFrom what you have described they have not presented a case for purchasingOct 13 08:28
Techrights-secsuch expensive and perishable items as "smartphones".  It sounds more liekOct 13 08:28
Techrights-secs/liek/like/Oct 13 08:28
Techrights-secone or two wishes to use company money for a toy of their own.Oct 13 08:28
schestowitz-TRjust had a chat with rianneOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRcirca 10 minsOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRso we like this ideaOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRwe print out the PDFOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRwe wait 1-2 weeks, for "seeing a lawyer" (not)Oct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRfirst delayOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRthen we send modified version with parts "deemed likely illegal"Oct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRthey cannot fire becauseOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRthey can get sued for retaliating upon trying to "asap" get us to sign something not legalOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRand this legal threat can itself foil the whole planOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRwe thinkOct 13 08:35
schestowitz-TRor get us exemptedOct 13 08:35
Techrights-secmore gimmicks:Oct 13 08:37
Techrights-sec 13 08:37
Techrights-secClosed source gimmick: 13 08:37
Techrights-secWhat are the FSF's recommendations for tokens and authenticators?Oct 13 08:37
Techrights-secEspecially for ones that do not require "smartphone" surveillance. Oct 13 08:37
-TechrightsBN/ | 5 of the Best Hardware Security Keys for Two-Factor Authentication - Make Tech EasierOct 13 08:37
Techrights-secackOct 13 08:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) | Duo SecurityOct 13 08:37
Techrights-secIt still sounds like someone there is looking for an excuse to buy himselfOct 13 08:38
Techrights-secand expensive toy using company money.  Oct 13 08:38
Techrights-secI supposed they have not even considered physical security.  Oct 13 08:38
Techrights-secYou should recommend purchasing specialized devices for that for all theOct 13 08:38
Techrights-secstaff, Glock 17DK would be a good match for physical security.Oct 13 08:38
schestowitz-TRackOct 13 08:38
schestowitz-TRthinking...Oct 13 08:38
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schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: pingOct 13 09:49
schestowitz-TRimmune system is now something you get buy/get off the shelfOct 13 09:49
schestowitz-TRthe link you gave is german's national broadcasterOct 13 09:50
schestowitz-TRand it shut him upoOct 13 09:50
mjg59_What? No it didn't.Oct 13 09:50
schestowitz"Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it."Oct 13 09:51
schestowitz-RMSOct 13 09:51
mjg59_Just point at the fucking study, Roy.Oct 13 09:51
DaemonFC"The CDC says that although two doses of the vaccine work to prevent severe illness in most people, boosters can help protect severe illness in people in risk groups, and against reinfection from new variants like omicron.Oct 13 09:58
DaemonFCRecent trials in Israel and the US have also shown that boosters can help protect older people. Offit says they make sense for people who need them due to risk factors, but that protection from omicron alone isn't enough of a reason to boost everyone.Oct 13 09:58
DaemonFC"The people who get hospitalized, people who have multiple comorbidities, who are older or immunosuppressed – boost them. I'm all for that," Offit said. "But I just don't understand the story of this war against mild disease in healthy young people."Oct 13 09:58
mjg59_DaemonFC: Can you point at the bit where it says that additional COVID vaccinations reduce your immune response to non-COVID diseases?Oct 13 10:00
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: he uses a straw man argument nowOct 13 10:01
schestowitz-TRby making up the think to refuteOct 13 10:01
schestowitz-TRdon't waste time on itOct 13 10:02
mjg59_08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other virusesOct 13 10:03
mjg59_What, precisely, am I making up?Oct 13 10:03
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schestowitz-TR apps are (mostly) overrated gemini:// 13 10:54
Techrights-secWeb2.0 front-ends aka masses of javascript in single-site, insecure, outdatedOct 13 11:00
Techrights-secbrowsers.Oct 13 11:00
schestowitz-TRweb sites that read your location as you walkOct 13 11:02
schestowitz-TRand can even figure out orientation vertically on some "phones"Oct 13 11:02
schestowitz-TRweb sites that easily gain access to call history , address book, microphone, and multiple cameras :-)Oct 13 11:02
schestowitz-TR(apropos the news about ./l in SN, re webcam always on)Oct 13 11:02
schestowitz-TR*nlOct 13 11:02
schestowitz-TRsys admins need "apps" like barbers need box cuttersOct 13 11:04
Techrights-secThat's about it.  Sadly they are driven by the Google/Apple duopoly andOct 13 11:05
Techrights-secthe monkey-see, monkey-do attitude that most people take towards life. Oct 13 11:05
schestowitz-TRyou could even ssay money-see, money-envyOct 13 11:06
schestowitz-TRI avoid these epople like they are infectious lepersOct 13 11:06
schestowitz-TRand keep rianne safe from them, tooOct 13 11:06
Techrights-secThat too.  Parts of social control media are driven by negative emotions likeOct 13 11:07
Techrights-secjealously and envy and fear.Oct 13 11:07
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schestowitz-TRthey are "poison" which targets the primal instinctsOct 13 11:08
schestowitz-TRand should be labeled as such, esp. in reent years when making is addictive is blatant and insiders blow the whistle on itOct 13 11:08
Techrights-secNot just target, but also actively exploit those as weaknesses.Oct 13 11:09
Techrights-secThey have blown the whistle several times but the results are, without irony,Oct 13 11:09
Techrights-sec"discussed" on said same social control media where they are quickly stifled.Oct 13 11:09
Techrights-secand suppressed.Oct 13 11:09
Techrights-sec:(Oct 13 11:12
schestowitz-TRrianne stopped buying much clothes, except for selling, when she quit the BS machineOct 13 11:12
schestowitz-TRrianne became a happier person when she stopped "using" FBOct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRa side issue I learned over time is that people buy a lot more clothesOct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRalmost like disposablesOct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRjust to show off how big their wardrobe (status symbol) isOct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRand in social control media you're not allowed ro 'reuse' an item of clothingOct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRthat makes you petty and 'poor'Oct 13 11:13
Techrights-sec:(Oct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRso there are envioronmental aspects to these literally toxic (dyes etc.) "sites" Oct 13 11:13
schestowitz-TRfunny your should mention batteries or UPSsOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRearlier on I was thinking of it in the context of fake reasons for "smart" phone (tethering)Oct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRno power may mean no connectionOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRbut no power means no pi (vpn)Oct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRno monitorsOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRand only a few hours for laptopsOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRand the router too need powerOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRso, to us at least, they 'solve' an issue that does not existOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRor a problem that cannot be overcomeOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRin some scenarios the exchanges too can run out of powerOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRor nearby stationsOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRso even a ups at the router and batteries on a laptop... no goodOct 13 11:19
schestowitz-TRwe cannot do our job on "apps"Oct 13 11:19
Techrights-secThe move to 5G mobile networking is another energy problem as the signal requires much more power to send and receive.  In the event of outages the towersOct 13 11:22
Techrights-secwon't be able to work on reserve power for any appreciable amount of time.Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-secUPS is only intended to give the computer breathing room to power down beforeOct 13 11:22
Techrights-sechard cutoff.  There are other options (I forget the name) for proper uptime.Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-secThe best is to keep the large displays and printers off those circuits.  Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-secThe router is a read-only OS and does not need power because if there is noOct 13 11:22
Techrights-secelectricity there is no network anyway.  Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-secUPS is only a buffer for a few minutes.Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-secANother reason the job cannot be done on apps is that the batteries in theOct 13 11:22
Techrights-sec"smartphones" last only a few hours.  You'd get as much life out of a newOct 13 11:22
Techrights-secs/new/old/Oct 13 11:22
Techrights-seclaptop.  If you can get a new laptop, some of them claim to have 10 - 12 hoursOct 13 11:23
Techrights-secof usage per charge.  Oct 13 11:23
Techrights-secJust avoid Nvidia for that.Oct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRwait, the energy supplier's guy, whom I spoke to for a very long time, said the copper net connection can still deliver during localised blackouits/outagesOct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRbecause at the edges there are some batteries for spare hoursOct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRand gracefully degrdationOct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRwhich I believe...Oct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRso if I can boost the router during any sort of blackkouts (planned or unexpected)Oct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRthen I can still use the laptops while connectedOct 13 11:23
Techrights-secIt depends on a lot of factors.  But either way, a UPS is not what would bOct 13 11:23
Techrights-sece needed at your site.Oct 13 11:23
schestowitz-TRyes, normal ups is not what I was after but something that can give enough to the pi and router for maybe 3 hoursOct 13 11:25
schestowitz-TRlike laptops' batteriesOct 13 11:25
mjg59_I have no idea what you're talking about, but consumer UPSes will let routers, modems and a small amount of additional hardware work for hoursOct 13 11:27
mjg59_The UPS supplying my uplink will let it run for about 3 hours before dropping outOct 13 11:28
Techrights-secAnother point with the power is that lead-acid batteries are only good forOct 13 11:52
Techrights-seca few years, an estimated 3 to 5 if I recall correctly.Oct 13 11:52
schestowitz-TRI recall reading about ups appliance whose life was so short that they were never put to use in a real incidentOct 13 11:53
schestowitz-TRand due to lack of trial and error when a real incident happened they failed to kick inOct 13 11:53
schestowitz-TR:-( another linux news sites I followed is dyingOct 13 11:55
schestowitz-TRstarted posting webspam instead of real storiesOct 13 11:55
schestowitz-TRthey never recover from that, not fully anywayOct 13 11:55
schestowitz-TRit's a shift in attitudeOct 13 11:55
schestowitz-TRlike "tfir"Oct 13 11:55
Techrights-secthere's not much point in them sticking around once they begin pushing webspamOct 13 11:59
Techrights-secthey can coast a little on the brand recognition and reputation but thatOct 13 11:59
Techrights-secs/that/those.Oct 13 11:59
Techrights-secboth disappear quickly once the webspam startsOct 13 11:59
Techrights-secHowever, that might be one of the goals of pushing out the web spam.  Oct 13 11:59
Techrights-secIt takes the site down without people missing it. Oct 13 11:59
schestowitz-TRseems like an innovative, creative, novel, covert way to take out one's oppositionOct 13 12:01
schestowitz-TRinm theoryOct 13 12:01
schestowitz-TRpartly jokingOct 13 12:01
schestowitz-TRusing money to destroy their sitesOct 13 12:01
schestowitz-TRand ruin the brandOct 13 12:01
schestowitz-TRI'm looking at you, itsfoss, fossforce, linux.comOct 13 12:02
schestowitz-TR(LF dumpster firesOct 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRdid you see the zemlin video I posted last night in TR?Oct 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRThe man is unhingedOct 13 12:02
schestowitz-TRlike a gates npr repOct 13 12:02
Techrights-secNo, I don't usually have the chance to keep up with the videos just the textOct 13 12:11
schestowitz-TRbtw, I need to look deeper into articles I read about vaccine experts expressing concerns that "updated" pfizer jabs were only tested on animalsOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRI think in the coming years we'lll see further digging into what was actually tested and to what extentOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRwith effects more serious than hair loss or vomitingOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRsupprssing research into this can be done within the grant framdworksOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRand corporations controlling universitiesOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRbut there are always some inquiriesOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRthat of course corporate media is quick to demoniseOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRtoday at 4pm we get the weekly data from nhsOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRI've not checked the ons data for death (11/10)Oct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRbut each week they add moreOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRI still have some working spreadsheers, I can insert the missing (new weeks) inOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRand maybe make some graphs soonOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRthe ons data is always about 2-3 weeks backOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRdue to backlogOct 13 12:12
Techrights-secHow up-to-date is the weekly data?  I got the impression they were delayingOct 13 12:12
Techrights-secsubstantiallyOct 13 12:12
Techrights-secackOct 13 12:12
schestowitz-TRI did a 26 minute video about it on MondayOct 13 12:14
schestowitz-TRthe data is fantasticOct 13 12:14
schestowitz-TRbecause it is vastOct 13 12:14
schestowitz-TRso much so that you can see the curves being very smoothOct 13 12:14
schestowitz-TRand when there is a pattern, it is based on a massive number of people not a random set or subsetOct 13 12:14
Techrights-secgnuplot can do error bars iircOct 13 12:20
schestowitz-TRI should add error bars (if I recall hwo to calculater them, maybe libreoffice has that built in)Oct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRto show the certainty and accuracy of these curvesOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRthe error bars would be small due to the set sizeOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRI might need to check my own thesis to recall how I rendered them and calculated themOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRbuilt in, or need you pass those to it as args?Oct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRI guess the latterOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRso you still need to computeOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRgnuplot typically just takes a series of valueOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRI worked a LOT with gnuplotOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TReven to plot tuxmachines activity some years agoOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRgnuplot does not do the maths for you Oct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRand the series of figures alone does not give you error barsOct 13 12:21
schestowitz-TRyou need to computer them based on external variables, such as set sizeOct 13 12:21
Techrights-secI haven't done it in too long so cannot remember.  Oct 13 12:23
Techrights-secStrangly I remember methods from decades ago. :/Oct 13 12:23
Techrights-sec 13 12:23
Techrights-secCan you find the script you used back then?Oct 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/ | ErrorbarsOct 13 12:23
schestowitz-TRyou can chain gnuplot with dc or bc and then plot somethingOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRin tuxmachines blog (old) i showed some scripts with gnuplotOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRbut that was like 5 years agoOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRand tuxmachines is moving onOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRbtw, search and archives still not there, but they're not so criticalOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRif search is added, then adding s static secton for "related stories:" becomes possible each time a page gets addedOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRlater today I will see many "reds" in nhs, focus on that, later (another day, i work at 5:30 today) will work on death cert dataOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRit should be easy to show people my age die youngerOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRbut not much research into causesOct 13 12:25
schestowitz-TRcould be so many thingsOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRimmune systemOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRlong covidOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRdepressionOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRpovertyOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRnhs suckingOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRno access to screenings in 2020-21Oct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRneed to studyOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRall I can do is show what the data showsOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TR10% more deathsOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRin my age groupOct 13 12:26
schestowitz-TRmany are young parentsOct 13 12:26
Techrights-secThen there are the harder-to-track effects like "long COVID" and organ damageOct 13 12:27
Techrights-seclike ruined hearts etcOct 13 12:27
Techrights-secThose are harder to measureOct 13 12:27
Techrights-secand thus unlikely to be published even irregularly if at allOct 13 12:27
schestowitz-TRI'm careful to not speculate and instead focus on the knownsOct 13 12:29
schestowitz-TRlike "number people dead in [age bracket]"Oct 13 12:29
schestowitz-TRthen, the task is for someone else to study the causesOct 13 12:29
schestowitz-TRwe also see a decrease in windows usageOct 13 12:29
schestowitz-TRand vista 11 adoptionOct 13 12:29
schestowitz-TRbut the causes might be more complicate to explaina nd vary demographicallyOct 13 12:29
Techrights-secRight.  The causes of the decline in Vista10, Vista11 are not knownOct 13 12:30
Techrights-secThough it looks like many people are moving to Android instead in the variousOct 13 12:30
Techrights-secpopulations.  What would be easily measurable is that whether it is an Oct 13 12:30
Techrights-secactual shift to Android or if new Android users are simply outnumberingOct 13 12:30
Techrights-secVista usersOct 13 12:30
schestowitz-TRit is a possibility, but it's not like poor countries started using computers only in 2008Oct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRand some use multiple devicesOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRPCs got expensiveOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRpeople got poorersOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRPC slaes collapsedOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRand I read that in china many chose to have just 'phone' and not a PCOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRI think my mom barely uses a PC anymoreOct 13 12:32
schestowitz-TRnot that she is any more productive nowOct 13 12:32
Techrights-secThat's what I'm thinking.  That the "smartphones" are spreading into placesOct 13 12:33
Techrights-secwhere there was nothing at all before.  That still breaks the monopoly though,Oct 13 12:33
Techrights-secsince market share is market share.  Oct 13 12:33
Techrights-secMost people would rather spend 40 minutes dorking unproductively with theOct 13 12:33
Techrights-sec"smartphone" than waiting a bit and getting done with the same task in < 5 minOct 13 12:33
Techrights-secwhen in front of a real computer.  Oct 13 12:33
schestowitz-TRyes, precisely!Oct 13 12:34
schestowitz-TRlike making cereal instead of proper breaskfastOct 13 12:34
schestowitz-TRand the "cereal" these days tened to be carb-bombsOct 13 12:34
schestowitz-TR(hehe, sounds like "car bomb")Oct 13 12:34
schestowitz-TR()nothing funny about these)Oct 13 12:34
Techrights-secIt makes me think that the dorking around is their goal not the actual task Oct 13 12:35
Techrights-secthey are pretending to pursue.Oct 13 12:35
schestowitzTwo days ago the company did this, without notifying anyone:Oct 13 13:18
schestowitz 13 13:18
-TechrightsBN/ | Should I Use My Accountants As My Registered Office Address? - QAOct 13 13:18
schestowitz 13 13:18
schestowitzturns out it is legal, but not a good sign. We shut down our office in July 2020Oct 13 13:18
schestowitzthe "Smart" phone BS came a day after the address changeOct 13 13:18
-TechrightsBN/ | Using Your Accountant For a Registered Office | 1st FormationsOct 13 13:18
schestowitzthoughts?Oct 13 13:18
Techrights-seccheckingOct 13 13:27
Techrights-secIt's problematic that he remains employed despite lyingOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRtiming must have been a coincidenceOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRmaybe related to maternity leave for one who checked the PO boxOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRbut she went on leave months agoOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRI notced address change within like less thana  dayOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRI check some things dailyOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRwithout rssOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRboss was shocked I had become aware (And so fast)Oct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRI reminded him I'm the longest serving staff except the founderOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRand I do deserve to know some thingsOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRhe likes to get aggressive when exposed lyingOct 13 13:27
schestowitz-TRand then pretends to be the victimOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRlike interrupting youOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRand then acccusing the other personal of being rude or interruptingOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRthat's the type of sociopaths at handOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRhe goes like, "why does it matter to you?"Oct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRI remind him, politely, that my reputation may be tied to the employerOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRlike SarinGasOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRhe does not care for or understand the businessOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRyet someone believes to have some god-given rights to dictateOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRsocipathsOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRwhile WE do ALL the ACTUAL workOct 13 13:28
schestowitz-TRwhich they CANNOT do (no skills)Oct 13 13:28
Techrights-secackOct 13 13:33
schestowitz-TRhad another chat with the homeboss (rianne)Oct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRi think we know the strategy nowOct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRand it might work okfor them to back off the planOct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRor make exemptionOct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRwe'll see...Oct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TR(joke about rianne being boss of the home)Oct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRmaybe that was lost in translationOct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TR4pm I'll have some nhs data to work withOct 13 13:57
schestowitz-TRTR might pick up speed at night when links are doneOct 13 13:57
Techrights-sec?Oct 13 14:01
Techrights-secackOct 13 14:01
Techrights-sec?Oct 13 14:01
Techrights-secackOct 13 14:01
schestowitz-TRnext week we have about 20-30kg of coins to carry to the bank (if all goes to plan)Oct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRI have this unproven theoryOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRa) they mint fewer coins by moving to "new" barteringOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRto make scarcityOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRb) making coin-counting machines ascare and expensiveOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRthis way they dicourage cash use, make it a burdenOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRI have to reopen two accounts in this bank just to use its free coin machineOct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRit's the onle branch int he centre of town that I know has this service (for free)Oct 13 14:04
schestowitz-TRsome private shop take 10%(!!) for the 'service'Oct 13 14:04
Techrights-secCoins can be re-used in stores.  Oct 13 14:05
Techrights-secIf you have an idea how much a trp will cost, you can bring enough and countOct 13 14:05
Techrights-secthem out in time to pay.  Oct 13 14:05
schestowitz-TRyes, but since about 2002 I've had a habit of dumping smaller change aside, then in plastic bagOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRI hadn't yet known about the machinesOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRthey were scarceOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRimagine the first timeOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRI come there with small organised bagsOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRwith coins sorted by typeOct 13 14:07
schestowitz-TRand then they present me with this machineOct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRso I wasted my timeOct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRexceptOct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRyou can then verify accuracyOct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRlike put all the tens in and see the machine only detects 10s and so on..Oct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRto get some confidenceOct 13 14:08
Techrights-sec  Oct 13 14:08
Techrights-secIf the shops get used to not dealing with cash then they'll have an easier timeOct 13 14:08
Techrights-secdropping it from their work flow.  Oct 13 14:08
schestowitz-TRyes, exactlyOct 13 14:09
schestowitz-TRhence I keep reminding people to pay with cashOct 13 14:09
schestowitz-TRand also use till operators (people)Oct 13 14:09
schestowitz-TRto keep them around for all of usOct 13 14:09
schestowitz-TRan act of solidarity, also job-keepingOct 13 14:09
Techrights-secThe same applies to coins, if they're not used to receiving coins they willOct 13 14:11
Techrights-seccease allowing then in their work flow. Oct 13 14:11
schestowitz-TRhere, some used "COVID" as a fake excuseOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRI wtoe about it at the timeOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TReven made some voice notes on my PDAOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRI like to ask them upfrontOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRand then turn around in an upset gestureOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRto make THEM, not me, feel "dirty"Oct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRyou still confront not the decision makersOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRbut people "down the chain"Oct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRin some business directly with the business ownerOct 13 14:15
schestowitz-TRand you can congratulate and thank then for taking coinaOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRand reaffirm their decisionOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TR"we come here because other places don't accdept cash..."Oct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRI taught rianne how to use body language to get serviced at the tills when they are emptyOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRthey pretend they are unmannedOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRand also pretend you need to buy cigs to get served by a personOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRthere are almost always workaroundsOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRfailing that, you make a scene, then leave with the items left them for them to sort outOct 13 14:16
Techrights-secackOct 13 14:16
schestowitz-TRa lot of this boils down... to SOCIAL CONDITIONINGOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRso you know how to confront the trendd/threatOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRreward and punishmentOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRas the person with "the money"Oct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRtghe hardest thing now is,Oct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRstill getting them to bag it for you like they used to years agoOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRthere are ways to get that done tooOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRsubtle waysOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRrianne is too shy because she is small, female, and foreign-lookingOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRif you tried to start 'hashtag' campaign in social CONTROL media,Oct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRit would not spread farOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRthey would soon say it's an antivaxxer right-wing election-denying terrorist threatOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRand 'disperse' the participantsOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRhahtags are like people "liking" or signing up to a protestOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRthey do the government's or polcie jobOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRor making lists of peopleOct 13 14:20
schestowitz-TRso funny, in a sick way...Oct 13 14:21
schestowitz-TRthey are mapping themselves, the "threat"Oct 13 14:21
Techrights-secackOct 13 14:22
Techrights-sechashtags are closely supervised and I suspect popularity is raised or loweredOct 13 14:22
Techrights-secdrastically dependin on the message the investors wish to promoteOct 13 14:22
Techrights-secWorse is that there are a lot of government representatives without actualOct 13 14:22
Techrights-sece-mail and pretending to use MS Outlook instead.  No wayto reach them Oct 13 14:22
Techrights-secbut they don't know that...Oct 13 14:22
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Biden White House is upset with Saudi Arabia over the recent OPEC+ decision" ☛ | Source: Common DreamsOct 13 14:40
-TechrightsBN/ | Opinion | Want to Punish the Saudis? Fast-Track Nuke Agreement With Iran and the Green New Deal | Juan ColeOct 13 14:40
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Walled Culture" ☛ | Source: TechdirtOct 13 15:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Techdirt Podcast Episode 333: Walled Culture | TechdirtOct 13 15:02
Techrights-secHmm.  That's a SoundCloud link.Oct 13 15:09
Techrights-secHmm.  That's a SoundCloud link.Oct 13 15:09
schestowitz-TRyes, I am aware they outsource a lot to clown and proprietaryOct 13 15:10
schestowitz-TRbut remember techdirt was never a foss platform/siteOct 13 15:10
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Jim Zemlin: we should be more like Microsoft 13 15:40
-TechrightsBN/ | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epstein’s Enabler | TechrightsOct 13 15:40
Techrights-secTM is active with legitimate visits, not just botsOct 13 15:47
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PostgreSQL 15 ⇨ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Oct 13 15:48
-TechrightsBN/ | Tux Machines — PostgreSQL 15Oct 13 15:48
schestowitz-TRspeed matter a lot, maybe the mostOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRwe're only minutes, not hours, behind LWN with thisOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRI'm not working on RSSOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRI have a way of identifying patterns to pick out urgent storiesOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRand rianne also checks a lotOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRquiet at work todayOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRand no new emailOct 13 15:50
schestowitz-TRwhich is a good signOct 13 15:50
Techrights-secackOct 13 15:58
schestowitz-TRcovid data 2 minsOct 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRsans delaysOct 13 16:02
schestowitz-TRlol  delay, of course...Oct 13 16:02
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog ⇨ Something a hopeless company with no business modem would do (_short-term_ business model: sell out to Microsoft)Oct 13 16:03
-TechrightsBN/ | Tux Machines — Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update progOct 13 16:03
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10% 13 16:11
-TechrightsBN/ » Blog Archive » New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10%Oct 13 16:11 13 16:11
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020) 13 16:40
-TechrightsBN/ » Blog Archive » Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020)Oct 13 16:40
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Classic FUD. Microsoft propaganda site blames "GoLang" and warns about "Linux" because someone wrote some malware and GoLang and tries to trick people into installing it. 13 16:53
-TechrightsBN/ | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, LinuxOct 13 16:53
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, LinuxOct 13 16:53
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft is trying to shamelessly twist cross-platform compatibility as an undesirable thing and security nightmare.Oct 13 16:53
Techrights-secand that's when they even acknowledge non-m$ platformsOct 13 16:58
Techrights-secnormally in m$ world view, cross-platform means only working across severalOct 13 16:58
Techrights-secof the latest version of m$ windowsOct 13 16:58
schestowitz-TRall versions of VistaOct 13 16:58
Techrights-secbasicallyOct 13 17:00
schestowitz-TRthis app [sic] is cross-platform because it works in debian, kylin, sparky, and other debian derivsOct 13 17:01
schestowitz-TR(hardly even multi-platform)Oct 13 17:01
schestowitz-TRbill gates believes in freedom of the press because he bribes 1000 newspapers, not just 1Oct 13 17:01
Techrights-secx86 Oct 13 17:03
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-TechrightsBN/ | Glyn Moody: Walled Culture - A Journey Behind the Copyright Bricks - InvidiousOct 13 17:35
schestowitz-TRthanksOct 13 17:36
Techrights-secnpOct 13 17:41
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> How music platform Corite is turning true fans into digital street teams - Walled Culture 13 17:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ )Oct 13 17:43
schestowitz-TRwe need to agree on how to deal with walled cultureOct 13 17:43
schestowitz-TRyou check, I check, or perl checksOct 13 17:43
schestowitz-TRat the moment there is duplication of effort, he has just published an itemOct 13 17:43
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Techrights-secBetter to check manually since the material seems quite good and very relevantOct 13 17:50
Techrights-secThat way it is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves.Oct 13 17:50
schestowitz-TRok, I will keep on reading it in quiterssOct 13 17:50
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "I'v started a new Gemini mailing list." gemini:// 13 18:22
Techrights-sect is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves.Oct 13 18:32
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schestowitz-TR] <schestowitz[TR]> Gannett?Oct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> GOODOct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <starstreak> schestowitz[TR], :)Oct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> they are malicious sitesOct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> thatharm visitorsOct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <DaemonFC> " The nation’s largest newspaper chain, Gannett, continued its cost cutting measures today, announcing a hiring freeze, a mandatory unpaid five-day leave for every employee this December, a six-month sabbatical, a suspension of 401K matches from the company, voluntary severance offer for those who want to retire or leave the company and an optional four-day workweek."Oct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> also propaganda networkOct 13 21:05
schestowitz-TR[21:04] <DaemonFC> "Reed’s announcement comes about two months after the company laid off roughly 400 employees — or 3% of its U.S. workforce — at papers across the country, according to a report from flagship title USA Today."Oct 13 21:05
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK 13 22:33
-TechrightsBN/ » Blog Archive » Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UKOct 13 22:33
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