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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1376311215543218176Mar 29 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: Alexandre Oliva: That thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human be… https://t.co/qKKosX4j8QMar 29 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: Alexandre Oliva: That thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human be… https://t.co/qKKosX4j8QMar 29 05:08
schestowitz"Mar 29 05:08
schestowitzAlexandre Oliva:Mar 29 05:08
schestowitzThat thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human being they seek to burn at the stake - Richard #StallmanMar 29 05:08
schestowitzRT & #RiseUpForRMS !!!Mar 29 05:08
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/28/oliva-on-justice-and-freedom/Mar 29 05:08
schestowitz #GNU #LinuxMar 29 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Pursuing Justice and Freedom | TechrightsMar 29 05:08
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schestowitznetwork issues... hvMar 29 06:34
Techrights-seccan't reach TR,TM, or HV from here ...Mar 29 06:36
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TechrightsBNHello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75Mar 29 07:16
Techrights-secthey seen back online nowMar 29 10:07
Techrights-sec^seemMar 29 10:07
schestowitz[07:51] <xxxx> Hi. Seen the cancelling of rms supporters? :)Mar 29 10:22
schestowitz[07:52] <xxxx> Links are in https://github.com/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter.github.io/issues/3484Mar 29 10:22
schestowitz[07:52] <xxxx> https://twitter.com/jhulten/status/1376360925809106951?s=20Mar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | How do we address possible harassment of our signatories? · Issue #3484 · rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter.github.io · GitHubMar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhulten: @QuinnyPig I also found a list of ~3600 people to not hire... https://t.co/1L7D9jQkS1Mar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rms-support-letter.github.io | An open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman | An open letter in support of RMS.Mar 29 10:22
schestowitz[07:52] <xxxx> https://github.com/travisbrown/octocrabbyMar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - travisbrown/octocrabby: Tools for managing GitHub block listsMar 29 10:22
schestowitz[07:52] <xxxx> https://github.com/sticks-stuff/highlight-RMS-supportersMar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - sticks-stuff/highlight-RMS-supportersMar 29 10:22
schestowitz[08:52] <xxxx> https://gist.github.com/kyhwana/73161a50d1b5019b18e3965b55a1a192Mar 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gist.github.com | Block RMS support letter signers · GitHubMar 29 10:22
schestowitzhilarious. Reinforces what I think of them...Mar 29 10:23
schestowitz <xxxx>Mar 29 10:26
schestowitzAs suspected, one of the scripts was written by a signatory of the support letter.Mar 29 10:26
schestowitzAs suspected, one of the scripts was written by a signatory of the support letter.Mar 29 10:27
schestowitzIt removes the corresponding file.Mar 29 10:27
schestowitz[10:27] <xxx> The sticks-stuff oneMar 29 11:17
schestowitz[10:29] <xxxx> And here a helpful troll posted links to the foot eating video and webpage downloading script description: https://twitter.com/11rcombs/status/1375156099473670154#mMar 29 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@11rcombs: the RMS support letter isn't signed by a single person whose name I recognize, but it should make an excellent reso… https://t.co/tUViIigmgCMar 29 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@11rcombs: the RMS support letter isn't signed by a single person whose name I recognize, but it should make an excellent reso… https://t.co/tUViIigmgCMar 29 11:17
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1617004228410#c5837002191472229440Mar 29 11:31
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKatMar 29 11:32
schestowitzDear Kant, Mar 29 11:32
schestowitzRule 126 EPC does not contain any passage concerning the question of when an attorney can be assumed to have read the mail and no reference to national courts of contract law.Mar 29 11:32
schestowitzAccording to Rule 126 if the attorney can prove that the mail arrived later than the ten days, then that will be the date of notification. Mar 29 11:32
schestowitzSo quite clearly, the answer to your question is: If the mail arrives later than the 27th, then the actual date of receipt will start the two-month period. But the two-month period of Rule 115 EPC quite clearly does not start on the 29th simply because the 27th is a Saturday. It is safe to assume that the Eboa has not made a mistake here.Mar 29 11:32
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:32
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617010016829#c751833913290804116Mar 29 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 11:33
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzThe EPO is not a machine for cutting costs and increasing the bonuses of its managers.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzThe notion of public service is completely absent from the measures decided or planned. It seems to me that the EPO is an organisation was set to work for the good of the public and its users.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzThis fact alone should lead the profession to react.The epi has started to do so, but there is still a lot of work to be done.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitz"Silence is consent" is another adage that is widely used by the governing bodies of the EPO and the BA. And if you are unfortunate enough not to agree, your contribution is simply swept under the carpet.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzThe present situation reminds me of an old joke:Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzArt 1-The boss is always rightMar 29 11:33
schestowitzArt 2-If the boss would by chance not be right, then Art 1 automatically applies.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitzBut I am not laughing, I am sad. Mar 29 11:33
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:33
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzWithout entering the discussion of the mandatory character of OP by ViCos, there is a further decision of a BA considering that OP by ViCos are fully in accordance with Art 116: T 2320/16. Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzhttps://www.epo.org/law-practice/case-law-appeals/recent/t162320eu1.htmlMar 29 11:35
schestowitzThe fact that the legislator allowed POs in the form of video conferences in 2000 for the examination procedure does not mean that they were allowed for oppositions and appeals, let alone that the parties would not have a say in the form OP are conducted.Mar 29 11:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.epo.org | EPO - T 2320/16 (Oral proceedings by videoconference) of 4.2.2021Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzWhat is at issue is not the possibility of holding OPs in the form of ViCos during the pandemic, but their compulsory nature, irrespective of the will of the parties and without any time limit. Delivering justice on time is a very weak excuse which will only convince those not needing to be convinced.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzThat the BA support this destructive will of the office is more than a serious problem, it is not acceptable! The BA support the undermining work started by the Office's and the BA’s governing bodies.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzWhat is actually much more serious, and what lies behind the OPs as ViCos, is that the decision-making bodies can be dispersed all over the territory of the member states, and even beyond.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzWhen we see the 'consultation' on the 'New Normal', the desire to dematerialise the office is clear. There is also a clear cynicism in wanting to "consult" the users of the office to see if they approve of this new structure of the office, when users have never been consulted on the mandatory nature of OPs.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzThe governing bodies did not invent the adage "divide and conquer", but they are using it to great effect. The very mixed responses of users to the OPs under ViCo are proof of this. If the office's staff are dispersed, the possibility of collective action becomes very difficult. Moreover, if staff are in their home country, there is no longer an expatriation or education allowance to pay. So everything is a benefit for the office. Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzThe notion of a seat in Munich and a department in The Hague becomes obsolete. The often invoked Art. 10(2,a) cannot be read without taking into account Art. 10(2,b).Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzIt is also worth recalling what the EBA stated in decision G 2/19: "Users of the European Patent Organisation's services can legitimately expect that the European Patent Office's departments will not perform acts at whatever other place they choose." Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzIn view of the "dynamic interpretation" in G 3/19, there is not much to expect from the EBA in G 1/21, independently from the fact that the Chair of the BA has put himself as chair of the EBA in G 1/21. This on its own is scandalous enough. Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzThat the Office is evolving is not in itself bad, but the proposed and imposed changes profoundly alter the structure of the EPC and the way the EPO works. If the legislator wants it after a serious and honest debate, i.e. after a diplomatic conference, there is nothing to prevent it.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzBut neither the governing bodies of the EPO nor those of the BA have the legitimacy to do so. A massive outcry is needed to remind the governing bodies of the EPO and the BA of their limits. Mar 29 11:35
schestowitz"Mar 29 11:35
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617009900838#c6544356056643144591Mar 29 11:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 11:35
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270321.html#tMar%2027%2002:37:21Mar 29 11:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, March 27, 2021Mar 29 11:43
schestowitz# +1 text FTWMar 29 11:43
schestowitzx https://openssf.org/#Mar 29 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-openssf.org | Home - Open Source Security FoundationMar 29 11:48
schestowitz# a "security" site which does not work without javascript?  ROTFLMAOMar 29 11:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617015902428#c8483295705690019933Mar 29 13:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 13:07
schestowitz"The referring decision is one of the finest pieces of legal interpretation of a term in the EPC that I have seen in recent times. Others, in particular T 2023/16, merely scratch the surface. The referral is not about vicos per se, it is only about vicos against the will of a party. I hope that the discussion and amicus curiae will focus on the issue at stake: Legality of forced vicos. One may be fine with vicos in general (I am), Mar 29 13:07
schestowitzbut one may still have a serious issue with legality of fored ones (I do!). I had multiple vicos in examination, opposition and appeal by now, and they were far from perfect but okay, given the pandemic circumstances. I am not against vicos per se. Let there be vicos even in normal times, but only for those who want them. I cannot stand the fact that the alleged (and doubtful) need for forced vicos during the pandemic is used as a Mar 29 13:07
schestowitzcover-up to put them in place for ever and for all."Mar 29 13:07
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617015716865#c989036383371718533Mar 29 13:08
schestowitz"The current constitution of the Enlarged Board for this hearing is so self-evidently inappropriately biased that it's lack of slyness is almost a laughing matter."Mar 29 13:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 13:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617012790911#c4996220881779104736Mar 29 13:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 13:10
schestowitz"Mar 29 13:10
schestowitzHuman faces have evolved with hundreds of muscles ...11:13Mar 29 13:10
schestowitzAuthor: noreply@blogger.com (MaxDrei)Mar 29 13:10
schestowitzHuman faces have evolved with hundreds of muscles that generate micro expressions vital for human communication. Already, many adolescents starting university degree courses have lost the ability to "read" human faces and have lost the ability to "ask out" a fellow student face-to-face, being able to do it only online, with the help of an app. In a ViCo, there is simply no eye to eye contact (because the participants simply cannot Mar 29 13:10
schestowitzlook simultaneously into the face of their interlocutor and into the lens of their camera).Mar 29 13:10
schestowitzWhy do I mention all this? Because I am wondering how important, IRL, genuine face to face communication is, and empathy between judges and advocates, for the administration of justice. CIPA seems to regard empathy between judge and advocate as irrelevant and superfluous, whereas firms based in Munich see it as more important. Who's right?Mar 29 13:10
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1617019697385#c8907876099238940337Mar 29 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKatMar 29 14:07
schestowitz"Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzTo quote from document BOAC/16/20:Mar 29 14:07
schestowitz"The President of the Boards of Appeal proposes that the Boards of Appeal Committee adopts the amendment to the Rules of Procedure of the Boards of Appeal set out in Part II of this document. The amendment involves inserting in the Rules of Procedure of the Boards of Appeal (RPBA 2020) new Article 15a, which clarifies that the Boards of Appeal may hold oral proceedings pursuant to Article 116 EPC by videoconference".Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzBOAC/16/20 thus serves as concrete evidence that the President of the Boards of Appeal has proposed legislation which contains provisions permitting "without consent" VICOs. The referral in G1/21 is all about whether "without consent" VICOs are compatible with the EPC. In what universe can the very person who proposed subsidiary legislation sit as the Chair of the Enlarged Board tasked with deciding whether that legislation is Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzcompatible with the Convention?Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzIt could perhaps be said that the EBA needs time to consider the objections to partiality, and that they will do so in due course. However, much like the answer to the referral in G1/21, the EBA's ultimate decision seems to have been made already.Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzIf the EBA ultimately decided to exclude Mr Josefsson from the proceedings, it would need to address the fact that he has already participated in the proceedings, contrary to Art 24(1) EPC. This would then force the EBA to rescind the decisions taken by Mr Josefsson, including decisions on the members appointed the EBA, as well as on the timing and manner of oral proceedings.Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzGiven the information in the above quote from BOAC/16/20, it is inconceivable that Mr Josefsson would have been unaware that his participation in G 1/21 would be entirely inappropriate, if not unlawful. In view of this, as well has the fact that he has already participated in the proceedings, we must therefore conclude that Mr Josefsson has no intention of self-recusing from G1/21.Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzAlso, even before 16 March, epi warned that, to avoid the appearance of partiality, Mr Josefsson should not participate in the referral. Thus, given the extraordinary speed with which the EBA has acted on other matters connected with the referral, we can conclude that the EBA has no intention of reaching a speedy conclusion on the possibility of a FORCED exclusion of Mr Josefsson.Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzTaking all of the above together, it is hard, if not impossible, to reach the conclusion that the EBA will simply brush off the well-founded objections of partiality and continue with the current composition of the EBA ... with entirely predictable consequences for the outcome of the referral.Mar 29 14:07
schestowitz"Mar 29 14:07
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617021009039#c3784724494655517277Mar 29 14:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 14:09
schestowitz"Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzImplicit in the EPC and the structure of the EPOrg seems to be the notion that the organs of the EPOrg can be trusted to act fairly and impartially, and that everybody will perform their duties in that spirit. But what this sorry episode illustrates (along with the chequered history of the Office under President Bonaparte - I mean Battistelli) is that there is no adequate remedy available when the organs of the EPOrg breach that Mar 29 14:09
schestowitztrust, and whether by will or neglect act contrary to the letter and spirit of the law.Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzWhen the Boards themselves are complicit in actions which undermine the EPC, or are too captured or compromised to prevent such actions, what remedies are available?Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzThe Contracting States are the ultimate guarantors of the functioning of the EPOrg and the rule of law under the EPC. But they, too, as represented by the Administrative Council, seem either not to know or not to care (or perhaps even to encourage) this abuse. What then?Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzCan any of the Contracting States ultimately be held liable? The host states, perhaps? Even there, we saw in the saga of the previous president's abuse of EPO employment rights that the highest court in the Netherlands was prepared to give an unbelievably wide construction to the range of actions covered by diplomatic immunity. Thus it seems that even national legal systems are of minimal help against an international organisation Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzgone rogue.Mar 29 14:09
schestowitz"Mar 29 14:09
schestowitzI am not sure why this has happened, did not investigate, but front page of the gemini capsule now shows "March" twice in the front page for bulletinsMar 29 14:14
schestowitz>> There's no hurry while the existing workflow still works OK.Mar 29 14:49
schestowitz> Ok.  I'll keep moving with it.  I've updated the core script to use TidyMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> via APIs to ensure that the pages fetched from the feed are converted toMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> proper XHTML.  That way we can use an XML parser on them.  The extraMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> step makes it a bit slower, but the result is more accurate and moreMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> flexible.  I've updated the Git repository with those changes and willMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> use them on today's set.  So please pay close attention to the automatedMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> links for a day or two so as to spot any mistakes or room for improvement.Mar 29 14:49
schestowitz> Mar 29 14:49
schestowitz>> I will back up the whole pi soon, just in case... more and more criticalMar 29 14:49
schestowitz>> stuff on it, over time...Mar 29 14:49
schestowitz> I keep the important scripts in Git, so backing that up from TR would beMar 29 14:49
schestowitz> important to do, too.Mar 29 14:49
schestowitz> Mar 29 14:49
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Techrights-secI will look at the Gemini capsuel generatorMar 29 16:15
Techrights-secIt looks like a screw up in the date function.  I thoughtMar 29 16:15
Techrights-secit would have been smart enough to realize Feb has 28 days.Mar 29 16:15
Techrights-secI've tried several variations but not finding a way around it Mar 29 16:15
Techrights-secusing the date function in Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)Mar 29 16:15
Techrights-secseems to be across Debian derivatives of all kinds.Mar 29 16:15
schestowitzthe babylonian human time system is so dumb and complex. leap years, seconds, dst...  way to torture programmersMar 29 16:15
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Techrights-secPresent in Old CentOS tooMar 29 16:23
Techrights-secA work-around would be to re-write that script using sometingMar 29 16:24
Techrights-secmore capable.  The Date::Calc module in perl for example.Mar 29 16:24
Techrights-secHOwever, this is a bug in coreutilsMar 29 16:24
Techrights-secFound a work-around for part of it.  There might be a lump next monthMar 29 16:24
Techrights-secthough.  We'll see.Mar 29 16:24
schestowitzThanks, it's also good to know that those bugs persist and maybe someone fixed them already in newer version. kaniini wants to move off centos, as kaniini rebooted the box today and systemd gave angst.Mar 29 16:24
Techrights-secI would have thought that the date matters would have been hammered out Mar 29 16:28
Techrights-secof the coreutils long ago.  Mar 29 16:28
Techrights-secOh, well.  Try reloading the Gemini page again.  It is fixed now, forMar 29 16:28
Techrights-secthe time being.Mar 29 16:28
Techrights-secrouter maintenance ETA xxxxxxx minMar 29 17:10
Techrights-secconection will probably break but the server will be ok Mar 29 17:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1376564920268038156Mar 29 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attem… https://t.co/BW76me2Df9Mar 29 17:20
schestowitz"Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom)"Mar 29 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attem… https://t.co/BW76me2Df9Mar 29 17:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1376565780414926849Mar 29 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sjvn: @BrideOfLinux "Objective" <Eye roll>Mar 29 17:20
schestowitz"Mar 29 18:56
schestowitzThere is yet another TPO in the docket now; see https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=E51SEL7Z6408DSU&number=EP04758381&lng=en&npl=falseMar 29 18:56
schestowitzIn addition to the Chairman Mr Josefsson, also Ms Ritzka and Mr Eliasson are challenged for the appearance of bias. BOAC/16/20 held that Mr Joseffson was advised by the Presidium before making the proposal to BOAC; both Ms Ritzka and Mr Eliasson were member of the Presidium at the time.Mar 29 18:56
schestowitzThree out of five internal member of the EBA appear to be biased. Anything but a good start. Mar 29 18:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-register.epo.org | European Patent RegisterMar 29 18:56
schestowitz"Mar 29 18:56
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617037364928#c6074543762591451509Mar 29 18:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 18:56
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617036847038#c7113527443060926425Mar 29 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 18:57
schestowitz"Mar 29 18:57
schestowitzI'm beginning to think that Mr Josefsson's conscience is clear because, to him, it is self-evident that the sovereign States that set up the supra-national European Patent System did so fully aware that they were creating an extra-judicial system, outside the Rule of Law. We can see in recent years the Contracting States setting their faces against the idea of entrusting the EPO Boards of Appeal with anything as important as the Mar 29 18:57
schestowitzadjudication of infringement cases.Mar 29 18:57
schestowitzFor pure validity cases, at stake is nothing as serious as criminal acts, loss of liberty, breach of any human rights, and so on. All that is at stake is whether the inventor's request for grant is or is not granted. So, nothing important enough for the guardians of the Rule of Law to get all steamed up about. Due process, I hear you cry. Forget it says Mr Josefsson. Nothing to get excited about, folks. Move along now, move along Mar 29 18:57
schestowitzplease. Mar 29 18:57
schestowitz"Mar 29 18:57
Techrights-secall setMar 29 21:47
Techrights-secI should probably reboot this one tomorrow.  Any time of day best?                                                             Mar 29 21:47
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617050069853#c39213375349032608Mar 29 22:09
schestowitz"Mar 29 22:09
schestowitzThe problem with the TPO is that they are anonymous. It will thus be easy for the EBA to prima facie dismiss them. Mar 29 22:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKatMar 29 22:09
schestowitzWhat is going on at the E>BA is bending of the law, but who cares as the EPO benefits from immunity? Since 2010 immunity is meaning impunity. Mar 29 22:09
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schestowitzany time would be ok for reboot assuming no major incidentMar 29 22:26

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