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techrights-bot | " #Huawei started testing a third beta version of HarmonyOS earlier this month and it has another one on the way. This upcoming version will arrive on March 31 and it will be the final beta." https://www.gsmarena.com/harmonyos_stable_will_launch_in_april_the_huawei_mate_x2_will_be_the_first_to_get_it-news-48394.php | Mar 27 00:57 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HarmonyOS will officially launch in April, the Huawei Mate X2 will be the first to get it - GSMArena.com news | Mar 27 00:57 | |
techrights-bot | "'559 patent generally relates to a system and method for delivering media content" = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/26/1000-awarded-for-ryujin-llc-prior-art #uspto #ptab | Mar 27 00:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $1,000 Awarded for Ryujin LLC prior art — Unified Patents | Mar 27 00:57 | |
techrights-bot | "Here, WPEM filed an infringement action against SOTI, but later dismissed the action after learning that the #patent claims were very likely invalid." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/litigation-investigation-validity.html | Mar 27 00:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Pre-Litigation Investigation of Patent Validity | Patently-O | Mar 27 00:57 | |
techrights-bot | #linuxfoundation lies and revisionism: the #gnu #linux operating system did not start 30 years ago but 38 years ago. It was called GNU. https://www.linux.com/news/celebrate-30-years-of-linux-with-training-certification-offer/ | Mar 27 00:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Celebrate 30 Years of Linux With Training & Certification Offer - Linux.com | Mar 27 00:58 | |
schestowitz | dodgy company | Mar 27 00:58 |
schestowitz | but say "COVID" and they approve anyway | Mar 27 00:58 |
schestowitz | (Pfizer) | Mar 27 00:58 |
schestowitz | Mako-Hill: "The current situation makes me unbelievably sad." | Mar 27 00:58 |
techrights-bot | #Livepatch 2021-03-24 incident investigation report https://ubuntu.com//blog/livepatch-2021-03-24-incident-investigation-report #security #canonical #ubuntu | Mar 27 00:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Livepatch 2021-03-24 incident investigation report | Ubuntu | Mar 27 00:58 | |
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schestowitz | one minor addition | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | which I think is important | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | a top editor of the anti-RMS petition is Azure/IBM staff | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | working on Microsoft Azure | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | Elana Hashman (OSI) | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | third biggest contributor | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | not sure who Joan Touzet | Mar 27 01:00 |
schestowitz | but might be worth digging into it | Mar 27 01:00 |
techrights-bot | #epo #corruption #crime #injustice : "In other words, either the EPO President already knows the outcome of G1/21 or he is being outrageously reckless with applicant’s time and money. There is simply no plausible alternative explanation. This makes me want to puke!" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/21/teleworking-is-there-to-stay-at-the-european-patent-office/#comments | Mar 27 01:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Teleworking is there to stay at the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 27 01:03 | |
techrights-bot | More buzzwords instead of real job titles https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-mlops-machine-learning-operations-explained/ | Mar 27 01:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freecodecamp.org | What is MLOps? Machine Learning Operations Explained | Mar 27 01:04 | |
techrights-bot | Christian Hergert: A Piece+Tree (Augmented B+Tree) https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2021/03/26/bplustree_augmented_piecetable/ #freesw #gtk #gnome | Mar 27 01:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | A Piece+Tree (Augmented B+Tree) – Zen and the Art of GNOME | Mar 27 01:04 | |
techrights-bot | "Gosh, second octant already! Well, let’s take a look at the big things that happened in #KDE on #FreeBSD in these six-and-a-half weeks." https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/03/26/freebsd2021o2.html | Mar 27 01:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | KDE on FreeBSD 2021o2 | [bobulate] | Mar 27 01:04 | |
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techrights-bot | NZXT Kraken Driver Queued For Introduction In Linux 5.13 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NZXT-Kraken-For-Linux-5.13 #kernel #linux | Mar 27 01:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NZXT Kraken Driver Queued For Introduction In Linux 5.13 - Phoronix | Mar 27 01:04 | |
techrights-bot | This Linux Foundation Newsletter is powered by #microsoft #windows !!!! https://www.linux.com/news/linux-foundation-newsletter-march-2021-tux-turns-30-supporting-asian-communities-and-racial-justice-lfx-updates/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ | Mar 27 01:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Newsletter March 2021: Tux Turns 30, Supporting Asian Communities and Racial Justice, LFX Updates - Linux.com | Mar 27 01:05 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights | Mar 27 01:05 | |
techrights-bot | #GNOME Board Members Must Resign In Disgrace http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083?page=1#comment-28849 | Mar 27 01:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:06 | |
techrights-bot | Roundup: Librem 5, Precursor, Fedora, Gentoo, Nemo Mobile, and GNOME 40 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149283 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Roundup: Librem 5, Precursor, Fedora, Gentoo, Nemo Mobile, and GNOME 40 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:06 | |
CrystalMath | it's exactly this kind of crap that alienates conversatives from linux and free software | Mar 27 01:07 |
CrystalMath | and it's disgusting | Mar 27 01:07 |
MinceR | which one? | Mar 27 01:08 |
CrystalMath | "Linux Foundation Newsletter March 2021: Tux Turns 30, Supporting Asian Communities and Racial Justice" | Mar 27 01:08 |
MinceR | oic | Mar 27 01:09 |
MinceR | i don't even understand it | Mar 27 01:09 |
MinceR | i was given the impression that renaming the master branch to "main" solved racism already | Mar 27 01:09 |
CrystalMath | they did? | Mar 27 01:10 |
CrystalMath | gosh, i'm ashamed to run linux | Mar 27 01:10 |
MinceR | well, that was the purpose, wasn't it? | Mar 27 01:10 |
CrystalMath | no i mean they changed the branch name? | Mar 27 01:10 |
CrystalMath | well you know, i can still rename it locally | Mar 27 01:10 |
CrystalMath | here it will always be master | Mar 27 01:10 |
CrystalMath | i don't tolerate main | Mar 27 01:11 |
MinceR | so far i've heard it was changed in shithub, gitlab and there is an option to specify the default in git | Mar 27 01:11 |
MinceR | but the default wasn't changed yet in git | Mar 27 01:11 |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149282 | Mar 27 01:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:11 | |
MinceR | i've set it to 'master' though, just to be sure | Mar 27 01:11 |
CrystalMath | oh, i meant linux's branch | Mar 27 01:11 |
MinceR | i don't know about that | Mar 27 01:11 |
CrystalMath | umm torvalds/linux still has master | Mar 27 01:11 |
CrystalMath | that must be why there's still slavery in the world :/ | Mar 27 01:12 |
MinceR | sounds like they changed it in shithub and gitlab for nothing :( | Mar 27 01:12 |
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CrystalMath | superkuh: you can now sign the pro-RMS petition without github | Mar 27 01:12 |
*MinceR gives voice to superkuh | Mar 27 01:12 | |
CrystalMath | also, it has more signatures now | Mar 27 01:12 |
superkuh | Eh, I've moved on. I'm writing code instead. | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | I saw that | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | superkuh: good | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | I try the same | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | and we have some articles on patents coming | Mar 27 01:13 |
superkuh | No one else is going to fix gtkfilechooser. | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | there are now more pro-RMS articles then anti- anyway | Mar 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | superkuh: gtk3? | Mar 27 01:13 |
superkuh | Yes. | Mar 27 01:14 |
*MinceR gives voice to aindilis cubexyz cybrNaut DVulgaris | Mar 27 01:14 | |
*MinceR gives voice to liberty_box libertybox mmu_man | Mar 27 01:14 | |
schestowitz | joindisapora is down | Mar 27 01:16 |
schestowitz | rare | Mar 27 01:16 |
schestowitz | superkuh: if it makes you feel any better, you're not missing any news | Mar 27 01:16 |
schestowitz | it's a phony old one, a phony scandal | Mar 27 01:16 |
schestowitz | GNOME Foundation-led | Mar 27 01:17 |
schestowitz | Maybe Neil wants a job at Microsoft like his predecessor | Mar 27 01:17 |
schestowitz | two of them | Mar 27 01:17 |
MinceR | Neil before me! | Mar 27 01:17 |
schestowitz | URL: https://joindiaspora.com/mentions Connection to Server Refused | Mar 27 01:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JoinDiaspora* - Sign in | Mar 27 01:18 | |
schestowitz | hmmm... | Mar 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | maybe cert related | Mar 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | Additional Information: joindiaspora.com: SSL negotiation failed | Mar 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | oh joy | Mar 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | I feel sssssssssssssssso much safer now | Mar 27 01:19 |
*ephemer0l_ is now known as GeneralDiscourse | Mar 27 01:19 | |
*GeneralDiscourse is now known as ephemer0l | Mar 27 01:20 | |
techrights-bot | #Firefly shines a light on RK3568 with a module and dev kit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149285#comment-28851 | Mar 27 01:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefly Station P2 mini PC coming soon with RK3568 processor and Android and Ubuntu support | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:20 | |
techrights-bot | #Nextcloud offers content creation setup on ARM platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149215#comment-28852 #gnu #linux | Mar 27 01:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical, Collabora, and Nextcloud Deliver Work From Home Solution to Raspberry Pi Users | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:21 | |
techrights-bot | #Wine 6.5 Release • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149284 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.5 Release | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:21 | |
schestowitz | [01:07] <CrystalMath> it's exactly this kind of crap that alienates conversatives from linux and free software | Mar 27 01:21 |
schestowitz | not just conservatives | Mar 27 01:21 |
schestowitz | that's misframing the situation | Mar 27 01:21 |
schestowitz | LF meddling in politics | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | no matter which wing or leaning, it's not necessary | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | as an org, not personal capacity | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | but worse: | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | LF enables very racist companies | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | and monopolies | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | while pretending to be liberal | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | and that in turn infuriates some progressives too | Mar 27 01:22 |
schestowitz | they're like the "corporate liberalism" | Mar 27 01:23 |
schestowitz | "we bomb with love..." | Mar 27 01:23 |
schestowitz | "we meant well... and became rich" | Mar 27 01:23 |
techrights-bot | KDE: Okular, FreeBSD, and #Krita • 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149289 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Okular, FreeBSD, and Krita | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:24 | |
schestowitz | example: | Mar 27 01:24 |
schestowitz | 1) LF outsources o Github, which serves ICE | Mar 27 01:24 |
schestowitz | 2) LF whitewashes IBM, the most racist tech company in history. LF makes them seem anti-racist. | Mar 27 01:24 |
schestowitz | 3) LF employs no blacks | Mar 27 01:24 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ | Mar 27 01:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | Techrights | Mar 27 01:25 | |
schestowitz | like the "limousine liberals" who have no black friends | Mar 27 01:25 |
schestowitz | and love blacks, as long as they don't live in the same rich neighbourhood | Mar 27 01:25 |
schestowitz | that's LF | Mar 27 01:25 |
techrights-bot | #OpenSUSE Hackweek and Progress • 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149290 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Hackweek and Progress | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:26 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149288 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:26 | |
lockeanarchist | if I'm not mistaken, one MS LF representative as giving an "idea" of ending with linux mailing lists, saying that MLs are a barrier to entry, to use a more "intuitive" alternative(Github?). | Mar 27 01:28 |
schestowitz | yss | Mar 27 01:28 |
schestowitz | we wrote many articles about this | Mar 27 01:28 |
schestowitz | the first one was this: http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ | Mar 27 01:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsoft’s New Mole Inside ‘Linux’ Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsoft’s Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights | Mar 27 01:28 | |
schestowitz | some techrights readers were alarmed and asked for help | Mar 27 01:29 |
schestowitz | fearing they would be pushed to hack in linux using a Microsoft account | Mar 27 01:29 |
schestowitz | Torvalds cannot say much | Mar 27 01:29 |
schestowitz | they're his bosses (Board) now | Mar 27 01:29 |
schestowitz | they might even end up starting petitions for rage mobs, calling him sexist in github or something | Mar 27 01:30 |
techrights-bot | GNOME 40 on the PinePhone [Martijn Braam / YouTube] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149238#comment-28853 | Mar 27 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The New GNOME 40 Release Video is Seriously Slick [Watch] | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:30 | |
techrights-bot | Wine 6.5 Is Released With OpenCL 1.2 And 25 Bug-Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149284#comment-28855 | Mar 27 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.5 Release | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:30 | |
lockeanarchist | One thing that alarmed me last year was that WSL2 ML directx kernel patch. NVidia could easily kill ML development in Linux pushing all linux ml developers to WSL2 | Mar 27 01:31 |
techrights-bot | Just to note: the third most prolific person in the anti-RMS petition (dealing with about 100 signatures works on #microsoft Azure...). Yes, Microsoft... the most prolific one (Neil) is preceded by TWO people who went to work at Microsoft for huge salaries. | Mar 27 01:32 |
techrights-bot | #Gadgets : Librem 5 and #RaspberryPi 400 Turned "Data Blaster" • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149287 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gadgets: Librem 5 and Raspberry Pi 400 Turned "Data Blaster" | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:33 | |
techrights-bot | #antiX -bullseye-alpha2 iso files available. 64 bit only • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149286 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 01:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX-bullseye-alpha2 iso files available. 64 bit only | Tux Machines | Mar 27 01:33 | |
techrights-bot | The Halloween Documents from #microsoft explain a lot of what we've seen this past week in the anti-RMS rage mob, which was largely based on distortions and fabrications | Mar 27 01:34 |
techrights-bot | This past week I've used mostly IRC to take notes of the attack on FSF. Because I think we need to cool things down and move on. The more we fight, the weaker we become. And we know who stands to gain from the infighting, sometimes even engineers and inflames that infighting. | Mar 27 01:36 |
schestowitz | lockeanarchist: we wrote about that too | Mar 27 01:36 |
schestowitz | it's the second "E" in EEE | Mar 27 01:36 |
schestowitz | but thankfully WSL2 is failing | Mar 27 01:36 |
schestowitz | barely anyone uses it | Mar 27 01:37 |
schestowitz | Vista 10 is in a freefall too | Mar 27 01:37 |
schestowitz | they keep trying giving copies for 'free' | Mar 27 01:37 |
schestowitz | because they don't even enough takers | Mar 27 01:37 |
lockeanarchist | schestowitz: they threatened to do that in the past because of linus' language and he was forced to accept a CoC to calm down the mob | Mar 27 01:37 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/windows-sliding/ | Mar 27 01:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to Statcounter, Microsoft Windows Reaches Lowest Market Share Since 1990s (Now Just 31.8%) | Techrights | Mar 27 01:37 | |
schestowitz | lockeanarchist: yes, his health seems to have deteriorated since then | Mar 27 01:38 |
schestowitz | bad diet, no exercise | Mar 27 01:38 |
lockeanarchist | he is aging fast | Mar 27 01:39 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/05/11/forties-torvalds/ | Mar 27 01:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Look What the Linux Foundation Has Turned Linus Torvalds Into | Techrights | Mar 27 01:39 | |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▂▂▅▅▅▃▂▄▅▅▆▂▆▃▃▄▅▄▄▁▂▆▃▂▂▃▂▆▄▁▁ avg(k/sec) 20.15 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂██▂▁▂▁█▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▁▂▂▃▁█▄▁▁ avg(k/sec) 51.85▕ swarm size (avg): 156.55 ⟲ | Mar 27 01:39 |
MinceR | mailing lists being a barrier to entry? how are people going to contribute to kernel programming if they can't handle a mailing list? | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | exactly | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | we mentioned that point many times | Mar 27 01:40 |
lockeanarchist | MinceR: just an excuse | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | as did others | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | it's a non-starter | Mar 27 01:40 |
lockeanarchist | they want Linux on their proprietary platform | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | they fail | Mar 27 01:40 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ | Mar 27 01:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights | Mar 27 01:41 | |
schestowitz | hopefully another codeplex in 5 years | Mar 27 01:41 |
kingoffrance | yeah, for other projects that might be more plausible, for kernel stuff? not so much | Mar 27 01:42 |
schestowitz | c is harder | Mar 27 01:42 |
schestowitz | than clicking "fork" | Mar 27 01:42 |
schestowitz | and hacking away | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | linux isn't like that | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | even testing a change is not easy | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | you need to compile kernel module and have hardwae | Mar 27 01:43 |
lockeanarchist | and this rust thing while they can't even handle their trademark issue | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ | Mar 27 01:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights | Mar 27 01:43 | |
schestowitz | rust is another trap | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | microsoft in board | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | all the project controlled by microsoft | Mar 27 01:43 |
schestowitz | censoring microsoft critics | Mar 27 01:44 |
schestowitz | all the warning signs | Mar 27 01:44 |
schestowitz | it also lacks complete hardware support | Mar 27 01:44 |
schestowitz | one of the selling points of kernel.org | Mar 27 01:44 |
lockeanarchist | yeah, rust is pretty limited on this | Mar 27 01:44 |
kingoffrance | even some gui person who doesnt touch command line -- theres no gui mail clients? its ridiculous | Mar 27 01:44 |
schestowitz | Look at the legs of Torvalds | Mar 27 01:45 |
schestowitz | this is borderline dangerous: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linus-torvalds-git-proved-i-could-be-more-than-a-one-hit-wonder/ | Mar 27 01:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds: "Git proved I could be more than a one-hit wonder." - TechRepublic | Mar 27 01:45 | |
schestowitz | maybe he stopped doing his walks | Mar 27 01:45 |
lockeanarchist | I was surprised when I saw these images of linus | Mar 27 01:46 |
MinceR | it can be difficult to go on walks with pandemic restrictions | Mar 27 01:48 |
MinceR | also, Torvalds looks like he aged a lot | Mar 27 01:48 |
MinceR | i guess whatever the corporates did to force his hand didn't do him any favors | Mar 27 01:48 |
techrights-bot | #gnomefoundation is toxic and it adds toxicity to other collectives, such as Debian http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/grToxique/ | Mar 27 01:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-charles.plessy.org | GR toxique | Mar 27 01:49 | |
techrights-bot | Even before the FSF news the #gnomefoundation had already planned to attack RMS some more. An intolerant, vile institution in service of #microsoft (look where former President went to work next!). January http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/ | Mar 27 01:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | Techrights | Mar 27 01:51 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: borderline "abnormal" | Mar 27 01:51 |
schestowitz | you can find old photos of him in swimming trunks | Mar 27 01:52 |
schestowitz | he used to have trunks for legs | Mar 27 01:52 |
schestowitz | not twigs | Mar 27 01:52 |
schestowitz | and I am guessing his GP advised him to get that treadmill at home | Mar 27 01:52 |
schestowitz | question is, does he still use it? | Mar 27 01:52 |
CrystalMath | linux is the new windows | Mar 27 01:53 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 27 01:53 |
lockeanarchist | the thing is that you don't need to see the linus from 10years ago | Mar 27 01:54 |
lockeanarchist | you can just see linus from, 2017 | Mar 27 01:54 |
schestowitz | Pocock and Linus https://danielpocock.com/assets/pocock-torvalds.png | Mar 27 01:54 |
lockeanarchist | he aged a lot in a couple of years | Mar 27 01:54 |
schestowitz | 2018 he was banished | Mar 27 01:55 |
schestowitz | since then no hard talk | Mar 27 01:55 |
schestowitz | or barely | Mar 27 01:55 |
schestowitz | the media shames him into remorse again | Mar 27 01:55 |
CrystalMath | he left himself | Mar 27 01:55 |
CrystalMath | that's already not the linus i know | Mar 27 01:55 |
CrystalMath | screw it, we can't hold on to people | Mar 27 01:56 |
CrystalMath | people deteriorate and fall apart | Mar 27 01:56 |
CrystalMath | only ideas stand | Mar 27 01:56 |
MinceR | we do need to learn from what our enemies do to people though | Mar 27 01:56 |
schestowitz | 2009: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Linus_fsf.jpg | Mar 27 01:56 |
schestowitz | actuall, CrystalMath, RMS still looks healthy | Mar 27 01:56 |
schestowitz | skin and all, weight seems the same | Mar 27 01:57 |
schestowitz | maybe some white hair and hair loss | Mar 27 01:57 |
schestowitz | but his underlying health problems go decades back | Mar 27 01:57 |
schestowitz | he told a friend of mine about them | Mar 27 01:57 |
schestowitz | but he can reach 80+ | Mar 27 01:57 |
schestowitz | My theory: http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/against-copyleft/ | Mar 27 01:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Monopolies in Pain, Free Software (Copyleft) Their Kryptonite? | Techrights | Mar 27 01:58 | |
schestowitz | they suffer a lot | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | IBM is 'dying' | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | revenue in a freefall | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | so they reckon they need to kill off freedo | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | but that is NOT easy | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | they need to compete with copyleft | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | RHEL is NOT UNIX | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | and it means that no matter what IBM does, it cannot force people to buy "support" | Mar 27 01:58 |
schestowitz | Ariadne says they seem to have purchase remorse | Mar 27 01:59 |
schestowitz | as the money to be found there isn't what they imagined it would be | Mar 27 01:59 |
schestowitz | the revenues continue to fall | Mar 27 01:59 |
schestowitz | she said they had shown interest in Alpine Linux | Mar 27 01:59 |
schestowitz | as if, RHEL isn't suitable for everything (too much bloated stuff for simpler systems, I assume) | Mar 27 01:59 |
schestowitz | So for morale and motivation let's treat these attacks as angry outbursts of frustration | Mar 27 02:00 |
schestowitz | and move on instead of fighting each other | Mar 27 02:00 |
MinceR | to me, it looks like copyleft is dead already (Hellwig v VMware) | Mar 27 02:01 |
MinceR | https://opensource.com/law/16/8/gpl-enforcement-action-hellwig-v-vmware | Mar 27 02:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GPL enforcement action in Hellwig v. VMware dismissed, with an appeal expected | Opensource.com | Mar 27 02:01 | |
schestowitz | For decades they've been doing it: http://techrights.org/2008/02/04/civitl-wars-in-free-software/ | Mar 27 02:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | BSD vs. GPL: But Why Are PEOPLE Fighting??? | Techrights | Mar 27 02:01 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: VMware did violate GPL | Mar 27 02:01 |
lockeanarchist | IBM doesn't look a healthy company. MS, tbh, is in a much better shape | Mar 27 02:01 |
schestowitz | insider admitted it to us | Mar 27 02:01 |
MinceR | and got away with it | Mar 27 02:01 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ | Mar 27 02:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights | Mar 27 02:01 | |
schestowitz | it's a fact, vmware then hired dreck hondahl from intel | Mar 27 02:01 |
schestowitz | to spin for them | Mar 27 02:02 |
MinceR | they even gained some control over Linux, which they parasitized before | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | lots of spam from him about how we're not sure etc. | Mar 27 02:02 |
lockeanarchist | it's the same thing, they give people a pass to please their bosses | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | he knows they violated the GPL | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | but they pay him to lie | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | [02:01] <lockeanarchist> IBM doesn't look a healthy company. MS, tbh, is in a much better shape | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | they tell us that | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | a lot of wall street is ponzi galore atm | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | look at tesla | Mar 27 02:02 |
schestowitz | making losses, valued at trillions | Mar 27 02:03 |
lockeanarchist | tesla is seriously overpriced | Mar 27 02:03 |
schestowitz | not just them | Mar 27 02:03 |
schestowitz | tesla is easier to see as such | Mar 27 02:03 |
schestowitz | not many people in middle class have money now | Mar 27 02:03 |
schestowitz | and vehicles lost utility | Mar 27 02:03 |
schestowitz | yuppie "green" waning | Mar 27 02:04 |
schestowitz | those cars aren't green | Mar 27 02:04 |
schestowitz | they don't run on air or water | Mar 27 02:04 |
MinceR | this one is :> >> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-fxk6CcghkE/maxresdefault.jpg | Mar 27 02:04 |
techrights-bot | Loss of real services all across the board. What next? Robots for shrinks https://www.iottechtrends.com/basic-healthcare-telehealth-drones/ | Mar 27 02:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Basic Healthcare Comes to Telehealth Drones - IoT Tech Trends | Mar 27 02:05 | |
techrights-bot | Customer service going away. You're on your own! http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/ | Mar 27 02:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Self-Service’ is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights | Mar 27 02:05 | |
MinceR | https://i.redd.it/9b31rtqzxtgz.jpg | Mar 27 02:05 |
schestowitz | MinceR: from greenwahsing to green-painting | Mar 27 02:06 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 27 02:06 |
techrights-bot | Old: "The BSD and the GPL ‘camps’ can happily live in harmony and they often do indeed. There is a certain hostility, however, between the OpenBSD folks and the FSF/GNU in particular." http://techrights.org/2008/02/04/civitl-wars-in-free-software/ | Mar 27 02:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | BSD vs. GPL: But Why Are PEOPLE Fighting??? | Techrights | Mar 27 02:07 | |
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schestowitz | MinceR: LF does greenwashing fro Microsoft | Mar 27 02:16 |
schestowitz | Paid-for PR services http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ | Mar 27 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 27 02:16 | |
schestowitz | We need to call out these charlatans and frauds | Mar 27 02:16 |
schestowitz | they tarnish our brands | Mar 27 02:16 |
schestowitz | The good news is, | Mar 27 02:19 |
schestowitz | we raised awareness | Mar 27 02:19 |
schestowitz | more people not widely recognis the LF for what it really is | Mar 27 02:20 |
schestowitz | even RMS | Mar 27 02:20 |
schestowitz | and they clearly cannot 'cancel' him enough | Mar 27 02:20 |
schestowitz | no matter how many bigCorps lie and mislead people | Mar 27 02:20 |
schestowitz | so we have the numbers | Mar 27 02:20 |
schestowitz | we have the facts | Mar 27 02:20 |
techrights-bot | Links 27/3/2021: #Wine 6.5 Released, #DataBlaster , #Livepatch Has Issues • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/26/livepatch-has-issues/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/26/livepatch-has-issues/ | Mar 27 02:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/3/2021: Wine 6.5 Released, Data Blaster, Livepatch Has Issues | Techrights | Mar 27 02:20 | |
techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149291 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 02:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:21 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149292 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 02:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:21 | |
schestowitz | I will prepare a statement | Mar 27 02:21 |
schestowitz | maybe others can check it's OK for us | Mar 27 02:22 |
schestowitz | or even now | Mar 27 02:22 |
schestowitz | suggest where we stand on the recent events | Mar 27 02:22 |
schestowitz | MinceR: lockeanarchist: http://techrights.org/2021/03/26/call-for-calm-unity/ | Mar 27 02:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Call for Calm and for Unison | Techrights | Mar 27 02:28 | |
schestowitz | does that make sense | Mar 27 02:28 |
schestowitz | I can still edit, I guess? | Mar 27 02:28 |
lockeanarchist | makes sense to me. | Mar 27 02:29 |
schestowitz | thanks | Mar 27 02:29 |
schestowitz | MinceR? | Mar 27 02:29 |
schestowitz | I have a lot to say, but will try to keep is calm and factual | Mar 27 02:29 |
schestowitz | I did not name people or companies | Mar 27 02:30 |
schestowitz | or link to anything that names them | Mar 27 02:30 |
schestowitz | I will do a very long video on Sunday | Mar 27 02:31 |
techrights-bot | A Call for Calm and for Unison • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/26/call-for-calm-unity/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/26/call-for-calm-unity/ Let's get back to WORK, folks! | Mar 27 02:34 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-260321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-260321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 27 02:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Friday, March 26, 2021 | Mar 27 02:37 | |
schestowitz | maybe I should do rebuttals in text, not video | Mar 27 02:37 |
schestowitz | now that I think about it... | Mar 27 02:37 |
schestowitz | but it would take hours to write | Mar 27 02:37 |
schestowitz | and maybe people won't care about the topic by the time it's out | Mar 27 02:37 |
schestowitz | and maybe too early, too | Mar 27 02:37 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-260321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-260321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 27 02:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, March 26, 2021 | Mar 27 02:38 | |
schestowitz | Should I do it in timeline style? | Mar 27 02:38 |
schestowitz | chronological? | Mar 27 02:38 |
schestowitz | OK, 2:40 here | Mar 27 02:38 |
schestowitz | I will give myself a dealine of 5am to do a very long and detailed timeline | Mar 27 02:39 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 27 02:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Friday, March 26, 2021 | Mar 27 02:39 | |
schestowitz | no video | Mar 27 02:39 |
schestowitz | just timeline | Mar 27 02:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | 5 AM? Geez | Mar 27 02:39 |
schestowitz | I have about 70 posts to cover | Mar 27 02:39 |
schestowitz | about the RMS thing | Mar 27 02:39 |
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schestowitz | so assume 2 minutes for each | Mar 27 02:39 |
schestowitz | 2.5 hours, inc. proofreading | Mar 27 02:40 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-260321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-260321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 27 02:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Friday, March 26, 2021 | Mar 27 02:40 | |
schestowitz | the news about this has ground to a halt | Mar 27 02:40 |
schestowitz | so maybe now the time is right | Mar 27 02:40 |
schestowitz | A Factual Timeline of the Attempt to Pressure the FSF Into Submission | Mar 27 02:41 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-03-26.txt | Mar 27 02:41 |
MinceR | schestowitz: i'm looking | Mar 27 02:53 |
MinceR | schestowitz: looks fine | Mar 27 02:55 |
techrights-bot | Doing a very long rebuttal to falsehoods seen in the media and FOSS blogs this past week; we have a story about employers BANNING employees from expressing support for FSF/RMS, not because they hate him/them but because the 'cancel mob' scares the businesses | Mar 27 02:57 |
techrights-bot | We will also do some long video rebuttals to many blogs and news reports about RMS that continue to spread lies (like calling him Epstein supporter; that's Bill Gates, not RMS!) | Mar 27 02:58 |
schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Mar 27 02:58 |
MinceR | np | Mar 27 02:58 |
schestowitz | I need to control my tone with this long article | Mar 27 02:59 |
schestowitz | 70 links | Mar 27 02:59 |
schestowitz | 2 minutes each | Mar 27 02:59 |
schestowitz | 150 mins | Mar 27 02:59 |
schestowitz | but I hope it'll be worth it at the end | Mar 27 02:59 |
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schestowitz | OK, this will take a lot more than 2 hours :/ | Mar 27 03:08 |
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schestowitz | this will take ages to write | Mar 27 03:28 |
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schestowitz | anyone wanna proofread? | Mar 27 04:41 |
schestowitz | first draft ready | Mar 27 04:41 |
techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, March 26, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 27 04:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 27 04:42 | |
techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 27 04:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 27 04:42 | |
techrights-bot | The Progress Linux has Made in Terms of #Gaming is Simply Incredible: #Lutris Creator • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149293 #gnu #linux | Mar 27 04:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Progress Linux has Made in Terms of Gaming is Simply Incredible: Lutris Creator | Tux Machines | Mar 27 04:42 | |
birkoff | across other apps and websites using the device's advertising identifier (also called IDFA) as part of a new framework dubbed App Tracking Transparency (ATT). | Mar 27 04:48 |
birkoff | https://thehackernews.com/2021/03/google-to-reveals-what-personal-data.html | Mar 27 04:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Google Reveals What Personal Data Chrome and Its Apps Collect On You | Mar 27 04:48 | |
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schestowitz | birkoff: thanks | Mar 27 06:13 |
schestowitz | good not to be using any of those devices at all! | Mar 27 06:14 |
birkoff | not using Android you mean ? | Mar 27 06:17 |
schestowitz | that too | Mar 27 06:33 |
schestowitz | can anyone spot typos? http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scandal/ | Mar 27 06:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) | Techrights | Mar 27 06:34 | |
techrights-bot | A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the #FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scandal/ #gnu #freesw #rms #freedom | Mar 27 06:35 |
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techrights-bot | ● [Old] ● #iCrowdNewswire # ☞ ZFS 101—Understanding #ZFS storage and performance https://icrowdnewswire.com/2020/05/11/zfs-101-understanding-zfs-storage-and-performance/ | Mar 27 07:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-icrowdnewswire.com | ZFS 101—Understanding ZFS storage and performance | Mar 27 07:07 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #DanLangille ☞ Moving some #ZFS filesystems to the ‘trash’ and removing all their snapshots – sanoid https://dan.langille.org/2021/03/24/moving-some-zfs-filesystems-to-the-trash-and-removing-all-their-snapshots/ | Mar 27 07:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | Moving some ZFS filesystems to the ‘trash’ and removing all their snapshots – sanoid – Dan Langille's Other Diary | Mar 27 07:07 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #JanPietMens ☞ Configure #SSH ProxyCommand for Ansible AWX on Kubernetes https://jpmens.net/2021/03/25/configure-ssh-proxycommand-for-awx-on-kubernetes/ | Mar 27 07:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jpmens.net | Jan-Piet Mens :: Configure SSH ProxyCommand for Ansible AWX on Kubernetes | Mar 27 07:07 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Rachel #Programming ☞ Compile times, and why "the obvious" might not be so https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/03/24/comp/ | Mar 27 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | Compile times, and why "the obvious" might not be so | Mar 27 07:12 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #DataSwamp #Programming ☞ #freesw from an author point of view https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-03-23-opensource-as-an-author.html | Mar 27 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : Opensource from an author point of view | Mar 27 07:12 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TrailOfBits #Programming ☞ A Year in the Life of a Compiler Fuzzing Campaign https://blog.trailofbits.com/2021/03/23/a-year-in-the-life-of-a-compiler-fuzzing-campaign/ | Mar 27 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.trailofbits.com | A Year in the Life of a Compiler Fuzzing Campaign | Trail of Bits Blog | Mar 27 07:12 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #DavidRosenthal ☞ #InternetArchive Storage https://blog.dshr.org/2021/03/internet-archive-storage.html | Mar 27 07:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Internet Archive Storage | Mar 27 07:14 | |
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Ariadne | [20:01:06] <MinceR> to me, it looks like copyleft is dead already (Hellwig v VMware) | Mar 27 07:44 |
Ariadne | yes, this is what i said yesterday | Mar 27 07:44 |
Ariadne | the only way copyleft enforcement is viable is if you hold a clear majority of the copyright | Mar 27 07:44 |
Ariadne | so, if you have disaggregate copyrights, the enforcement action would have to be a class action or similar | Mar 27 07:44 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge ☞ Why #Microsoft wants #Discord https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/26/22352028/microsoft-discord-acquisition-analysis-report | Mar 27 07:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Why Microsoft wants Discord - The Verge | Mar 27 07:45 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CyberScoop ☞ Top insurer CNA disconnects systems after cyberattack https://www.cyberscoop.com/cna-cyber-insurance-breach/ | Mar 27 07:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top insurer CNA disconnects systems after cyberattack - CyberScoop | Mar 27 07:46 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #PortSwigger ☞ Security researcher launches #GoFundMe campaign to fight legal threat over vulnerability disclosure https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/security-researcher-launches-gofundme-campaign-to-fight-legal-threat-over-vulnerability-disclosure | Mar 27 07:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Security researcher launches GoFundMe campaign to fight legal threat over vulnerability disclosure | The Daily Swig | Mar 27 07:46 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CUJOAI ☞ Restricted Environment IoT Hacking: All You Need Is a Remote Shell https://cujo.com/restricted-environment-iot-hacking-all-you-need-is-a-remote-shell/ | Mar 27 07:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Restricted Environment IoT Hacking: All You Need Is a Remote Shell - CUJO AI | Mar 27 07:50 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CoryDoctorow #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Zuckerpunch https://pluralistic.net/2021/03/25/facebook-has-a-facebook-problem/#played-for-zuckers | Mar 27 07:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 25 Mar 2021 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | Mar 27 07:51 | |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▆▅▆▅▅▃▅▃▄▅▁▃▅▅▄▅▅▅▅▆▅▅▃▂▂▅▃▄▅▄▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 19.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.05▕ swarm size (avg): 157.61 ⟲ | Mar 27 08:39 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #ITWire ☞ Google's triumphant 11 zero-day report exposed govt operation: claim https://itwire.com/security/google-s-triumphant-11-zero-day-report-exposed-govt-operation-claim.html | Mar 27 08:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Google's triumphant 11 zero-day report exposed govt operation: claim | Mar 27 08:50 | |
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lockeanarchist | Sometimes I find pretty interesting that these Rust rewrites are, almost all, in permissive licenses. Copyleft is dead but companies don't want to risk anyway. | Mar 27 09:49 |
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techrights-bot | #IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 26, 2021 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/irc-log-260321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/irc-log-260321/ | Mar 27 10:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 26, 2021 | Techrights | Mar 27 10:12 | |
techrights-bot | Please do not get carried away by people who try to tear #Freesoftware apart • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/26/call-for-calm-unity/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/26/call-for-calm-unity/ | Mar 27 10:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Call for Calm and for Unison | Techrights | Mar 27 10:13 | |
techrights-bot | gemini | Mar 27 10:16 |
techrights-bot | An objective (based on underlying facts) assessment of what has happened over the past 5 days; a lot of energy was spent getting angry over the wrong thing, usually based on misunderstandings • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scandal/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scanda | Mar 27 10:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) | Techrights | Mar 27 10:16 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EerieLinux #rms #gnu #fsf ☞ Cancelling Richard Stallman? https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2021/03/24/cancelling-richard-stallman/ | Mar 27 10:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eerielinux.wordpress.com | Cancelling Richard Stallman? | eerielinux | Mar 27 10:20 | |
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techrights-bot | ‘Just Perfection’ #GNOMEShell Extension Now Lets You Customize Your #GNOME 40 Desktop • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149294 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 10:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ‘Just Perfection’ GNOME Shell Extension Now Lets You Customize Your GNOME 40 Desktop | Tux Machines | Mar 27 10:47 | |
techrights-bot | #MXLinux vs. #ManjaroLinux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149295 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 10:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux vs. Manjaro | Tux Machines | Mar 27 10:47 | |
techrights-bot | This week in KDE: all the things • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149296 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE | Mar 27 10:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: all the things | Tux Machines | Mar 27 10:48 | |
techrights-bot | My favorite #freesw tools to meet new friends • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149297 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 10:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My favorite open source tools to meet new friends | Tux Machines | Mar 27 10:48 | |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149298 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 10:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 10:48 | |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #patents ☞ As Rich Nations Protect Corporate Patents, the Global #Vaccine Divide is Widening https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/03/26/134324/ object to it in #twiiter and they may BAN you: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Mar 27 11:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As Rich Nations Protect Corporate Patents, the Global Vaccine Divide is Widening - CounterPunch.org | Mar 27 11:05 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Mar 27 11:05 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Censorship ☞ #ContentModeration Case Study: Facebook Removes A Picture Of A Famous Danish Mermaid Statue (2016) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210326/15540546499/content-moderation-case-study-facebook-removes-picture-famous-danish-mermaid-statue-2016.shtml | Mar 27 11:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Facebook Removes A Picture Of A Famous Danish Mermaid Statue (2016) | Techdirt | Mar 27 11:08 | |
techrights-bot | FOSS Patents: #FTC apparently decided not to seek Supreme Court review of Ninth Circuit ruling in #Qualcomm 's favor ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/ftc-apparently-decided-not-to-seek.html •●• #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/27/#latest | Mar 27 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: FTC apparently decided not to seek Supreme Court review of Ninth Circuit ruling in Qualcomm's favor | Mar 27 11:10 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Mar 27 11:10 | |
techrights-bot | FOSS Patents: Has European Commissioner #ThierryBreton already announced that #Apple will have to allow alternative app stores? A matter of interpretation. ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/has-european-commissioner-thierry.html •●• #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/27/#latest | Mar 27 11:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Has European Commissioner Thierry Breton already announced that Apple will have to allow alternative app stores? A matter of interpretation. | Mar 27 11:11 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Privacy Laws Giving Big Internet Companies A Convenient Excuse To Avoid Academic Scrutiny https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210320/00235946461/privacy-laws-giving-big-internet-companies-convenient-excuse-to-avoid-academic-scrutiny.shtml | Mar 27 11:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Privacy Laws Giving Big Internet Companies A Convenient Excuse To Avoid Academic Scrutiny | Techdirt | Mar 27 11:15 | |
techrights-bot | Dance https://pluspora.com/uploads/images/7c23f27374bc430253c0.gif | Mar 27 11:24 |
techrights-bot | We Open-Sourced our #Encryption Software: Here's Why https://hackernoon.com/we-open-sourced-our-encryption-software-heres-why-4v1h33t1 | Mar 27 11:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com | We Open-Sourced our Encryption Software: Here's Why | Hacker Noon | Mar 27 11:36 | |
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techrights-bot | #RMS #RichardStallman #GNU #FSF #freesw https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/RMSStillImportant:6 | Mar 27 12:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Proof RMS is Still Important | Mar 27 12:05 | |
techrights-bot | #navalny https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/world/europe/navalny-health-prison.html | Mar 27 12:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Navalny’s Health Is Deteriorating in Prison, His Lawyers Say - The New York Times | Mar 27 12:05 | |
techrights-bot | "The sport short: ESO is building the world's largest telescope on a mountaintop in Chile. Think of it as binoculars with a mirror as wide as the Round Tower is high in a building the size of the entire Rosenborg Castle." https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=da&u=https://www.version2.dk/blog/moderne-hardware-fantastisk-1092354 | Mar 27 12:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Mar 27 12:07 | |
techrights-bot | #WordPress bloat https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/03/15/339/ | Mar 27 12:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | WordPress classic editor! | systemd-free linux community | Mar 27 12:07 | |
techrights-bot | #FSFE != FSF https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/105954844399007716 see http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ http://techrights.org/2012/07/07/debian-vs-ubuntu-on-uefi/ | Mar 27 12:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Still think the FSF is relevant and fighting for …" - Aral’s Mastodon | Mar 27 12:08 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | Techrights | Mar 27 12:08 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF and FSFE Both Speak Out Against UEFI; Ubuntu Drifts Away From FSF, Whereas Debian Comes Closer to FSF | Techrights | Mar 27 12:08 | |
techrights-bot | "Illustrating what an absolute joke the RMS/FSF crucifixion attempt is, is that (M$ GH) issues/PRs about factual errors or more diverse (should I say 'inclusive') opinions are closed (and apparently even deleted), because "too many people already signed"." https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/105950613548469148 | Mar 27 12:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x0f.org | Free Pietje: "Illustrating what an absolute joke the RMS/FSF cr…" - unidentified instance | Mar 27 12:08 | |
techrights-bot | #CancelCulture Is Only Getting Worse https://mstdn.io/@wzqtparor/105948091973443930 | Mar 27 12:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mstdn.io | [RMS] 一色いろは: "Cancel Culture Is Only Getting Worse https://www…" - Mastodon | Mar 27 12:08 | |
techrights-bot | #gnome working for #ibm -- the company that profited from gassing gay and trans people (IBM founder got a medal from Hitler) https://masgnulinux.es/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/gnome.png | Mar 27 12:10 |
techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&u=https://masgnulinux.es/que-te-jodan-red-hat/ | Mar 27 12:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Mar 27 12:11 | |
techrights-bot | "Red Hat is the main enemy of free software. I said well. Behind the mask that they produce open source software (sic), the real truth is that they buy from developers" https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&u=https://masgnulinux.es/que-te-jodan-red-hat/ | Mar 27 12:12 |
techrights-bot | The term "darkweb" resurfaces, because apparently #privacy is a crime now. And never mind racial connotations #ibm might tell you the word has... https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/jail_terms_for_two_in_finlands_first_dark_web_contract_killing/11858453 | Mar 27 12:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jail terms for two in Finland's first dark web contract killing | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi | Mar 27 12:13 | |
techrights-bot | #colorado https://thehill.com/homenews/media/545159-usa-today-editor-fired-for-post-colorado-shooting-tweet | Mar 27 12:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-USA Today editor fired for post-Colorado shooting tweet | TheHill | Mar 27 12:13 | |
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techrights-bot | Some loud minority of bigots in #georgia wants rigged election https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html they cannot win otherwise... | Mar 27 12:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Georgia voting bill: Republicans speed sweeping elections bill restricting voting access into law - CNNPolitics | Mar 27 12:14 | |
techrights-bot | "I do think we need to not get distracted by the whole focus on RMS and judging him as good or bad as a person and continue to think about the overall mission of the free software movement." https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2021-03/msg00072.html | Mar 27 12:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Support RMS | Mar 27 12:14 | |
techrights-bot | #gnomefoundation is a hateful, toxic org that violates its own rules and its leaders then go working for #microsoft https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/gnome-board-members-must-resign-in:c | Mar 27 12:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | GNOME Board Members Must Resign In Disgrace | Mar 27 12:15 | |
techrights-bot | "I still urge people to support RMS in this matter because defending truth is important." https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2021-03/msg00070.html | Mar 27 12:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Support RMS | Mar 27 12:16 | |
techrights-bot | #suse stands for #proprietarysoftware and its CEO works for SAP, so what else can be expected? https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/SUSEEFFStallman:6 | Mar 27 12:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | SUSE, EFF Attack Stallman | Mar 27 12:18 | |
techrights-bot | old: #systemd , 10 years later: a historical and technical retrospective https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/ #ibm #redhat | Mar 27 12:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | systemd, 10 years later: a historical and technical retrospective | Mar 27 12:19 | |
techrights-bot | old: " #Systemd is not an init system" http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&start=0 | Mar 27 12:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.debian.net | Debian User Forums • View topic - Combatting revisionist history | Mar 27 12:20 | |
techrights-bot | old: "The origin of Richard Stallman and the free software ideas he developed is from a time before computers became an integral part of ordinary people’s lives, the 70s." https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web | Mar 27 12:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wetheweb.org | #Cancel We The Web? | Mar 27 12:20 | |
techrights-bot | "The main contributions of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs to computing was to shit in the pool of grass-roots creativity. Jobs, far more than Gates, was able to polish his turd to a fine sheen." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/105958040749504926 | Mar 27 12:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "The main contributions of Bill Gates and Steve Jo…" - Mastodon - NZOSS | Mar 27 12:22 | |
techrights-bot | "I can guarantee this is the best impromptu rant against Microsoft and their disdain for your privacy that you will watch today (from yesterday’s S’update)" https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/105955684252481116 | Mar 27 12:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "I can guarantee this is the best impromptu rant a…" - Aral’s Mastodon | Mar 27 12:22 | |
techrights-bot | "Whenever you say “but it doesn’t matter if X gets funded/sponsored by Google, Facebook, etc.” you’re basically pissing in the faces of those of us who would rather struggle than accept their dirty money and legitimise those surveillance capitalists or compromise our integrity." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/105955364834411191 | Mar 27 12:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Whenever you say “but it doesn’t matter if X gets…" - Aral’s Mastodon | Mar 27 12:23 | |
techrights-bot | "The pine64.org domain belongs to all members of the PINE64 community. Got a PINE64 project going? Did you write a #PinePhone app or hacked new functionality into the #PinebookPro?" https://fosstodon.org/@PINE64/105957623112088991 | Mar 27 12:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | PINE64: "The pine64.org domain belongs to all members of t…" - Fosstodon | Mar 27 12:23 | |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #meduza #ru #russia ☞ #RuNet scammers launch fake ‘business version’ of #TikTok https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/03/26/runet-scammers-launch-fake-business-version-of-tiktok | Mar 27 12:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Mar 27 12:25 | |
schestowitz | Ariadne: https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1374011913009565698 | Mar 27 12:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: so far the only 'lead' techrights has that RMS is 'back in' at FSF is somebody dropping that in the IRC. | Mar 27 12:29 | |
schestowitz | but we were right ;0) | Mar 27 12:29 |
Ariadne | yes, it was a good scoop | Mar 27 12:29 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wwahammy/status/1373821668624322560 | Mar 27 12:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wwahammy: Also, the guy running techrights is a douchenozzle but it's the source I have. | Mar 27 12:30 | |
schestowitz | "douchenozzle" | Mar 27 12:30 |
schestowitz | such lovelt and nice people | Mar 27 12:30 |
schestowitz | very polite | Mar 27 12:30 |
schestowitz | very inclusive | Mar 27 12:30 |
schestowitz | "douchenozzle" | Mar 27 12:30 |
schestowitz | they fail to see their own hypocrisy on such matters | Mar 27 12:30 |
Ariadne | personally, i'm not a fan of ad hominem attacks but :) | Mar 27 12:31 |
schestowitz | he accused RMS of being a "Safety" problem | Mar 27 12:31 |
schestowitz | using some twist on the word "safety" | Mar 27 12:31 |
schestowitz | anyway, here we are... and so far we've gotten the facts right | Mar 27 12:31 |
Ariadne | well, it may be unsafe to be an "emacs virgin" in his presence | Mar 27 12:32 |
Ariadne | mostly because he will not stop talking about emacs | Mar 27 12:32 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Senator Elizabeth Warren Goes Over The Line; Threatens To Punish Amazon For 'Snotty Tweets' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210326/13051246498/senator-elizabeth-warren-goes-over-line-threatens-to-punish-amazon-snotty-tweets.shtml | Mar 27 12:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Senator Elizabeth Warren Goes Over The Line; Threatens To Punish Amazon For 'Snotty Tweets' | Techdirt | Mar 27 12:32 | |
schestowitz | btw | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | about that | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | virgins are guys too | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | mostly guys, I think | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | so they tried to spin that as sexist | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | which made no sense | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | in 2009 he had to clarify that | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | it was also, back them, gnome foundation leads the attack | Mar 27 12:33 |
schestowitz | people who led it would later work for Redmond | Mar 27 12:33 |
Ariadne | i once was on the same flight as RMS and he would not shut the fuck up about somebody having bose quietcomfort headphones | Mar 27 12:34 |
schestowitz | they keep trying hard to make scandals out of little solid ground | Mar 27 12:34 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: sorry to hear that :-) | Mar 27 12:34 |
schestowitz | arrest him | Mar 27 12:34 |
Ariadne | they almost did | Mar 27 12:34 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #DannyGlover Joins #Amazon Organizers on the Ground in Lead-Up to Union Vote https://truthout.org/video/danny-glover-joins-amazon-organizers-on-the-ground-in-lead-up-to-union-vote/ | Mar 27 12:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Danny Glover Joins Amazon Organizers on the Ground in Lead-Up to Union Vote | Mar 27 12:35 | |
Ariadne | he finally agreed to shut up and the plane finally departed | Mar 27 12:35 |
schestowitz | what are those headphones? | Mar 27 12:36 |
schestowitz | I don't get it | Mar 27 12:36 |
schestowitz | quietcomfort? | Mar 27 12:36 |
Ariadne | noise cancellation headphones | Mar 27 12:36 |
schestowitz | what did he say? | Mar 27 12:36 |
Ariadne | they use an analog circuit to generating masking noise | Mar 27 12:36 |
Ariadne | he thought they had some sort of firmware (they don't) | Mar 27 12:36 |
schestowitz | ah, makes sense | Mar 27 12:36 |
schestowitz | in some environments where you want to hear a colleague but not background noise | Mar 27 12:36 |
Ariadne | or listen to music and not background noise | Mar 27 12:37 |
schestowitz | DSPs are circuitry | Mar 27 12:37 |
Ariadne | or whatever | Mar 27 12:37 |
schestowitz | so I imagine they don't publish their designs | Mar 27 12:37 |
Ariadne | yeah but noise cancellation circuits don't involve any computing | Mar 27 12:37 |
schestowitz | many are proprietary components, drop-in components | Mar 27 12:37 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: depends | Mar 27 12:37 |
schestowitz | it does until done with hw dsp | Mar 27 12:37 |
Ariadne | hw dsp would be overkill for that application | Mar 27 12:38 |
schestowitz | depends on we define computation versus data pipelines | Mar 27 12:38 |
Ariadne | maybe if it was bluetooth | Mar 27 12:38 |
Ariadne | or something like that | Mar 27 12:38 |
schestowitz | I see... | Mar 27 12:38 |
schestowitz | anyway, he's kind of funny sometimes | Mar 27 12:38 |
schestowitz | but mostly harmless | Mar 27 12:38 |
schestowitz | ime | Mar 27 12:38 |
Ariadne | i mean, i don't really care about having the source code to random appliances moreso than schematics for them | Mar 27 12:39 |
schestowitz | maybe I'm used to it because i have friend who are deaf or other conditions | Mar 27 12:39 |
Ariadne | what am i going to do? overclock my oven? | Mar 27 12:39 |
schestowitz | so I'm used to being around people who act "different" | Mar 27 12:39 |
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schestowitz | old fashioned ovens are OK | Mar 27 12:39 |
schestowitz | they are also easier to repair | Mar 27 12:40 |
schestowitz | sometimes yourself | Mar 27 12:40 |
Ariadne | i have a new samsung oven | Mar 27 12:40 |
Ariadne | it even has internet of shit connectivity as an option | Mar 27 12:40 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ How Mark Warner's 'SAFE TECH Act' Will Make Many People A Lot Less Safe https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210323/07373746473/how-mark-warners-safe-tech-act-will-make-many-people-lot-less-safe.shtml | Mar 27 12:40 |
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Ariadne | if i wanted to pay $20 for the zigbee module | Mar 27 12:40 |
schestowitz | When I was 19 I repaired my own laptop, saved tons of money | Mar 27 12:40 |
Ariadne | but the source code for it does not really give me any value | Mar 27 12:40 |
Ariadne | it's an oven | Mar 27 12:40 |
Ariadne | i don't know shit about ovens | Mar 27 12:41 |
schestowitz | maybe we'll care more in the future | Mar 27 12:41 |
schestowitz | and rely on others jail-breaking them | Mar 27 12:41 |
schestowitz | e.g. to disable microphones | Mar 27 12:41 |
schestowitz | some kitchen appliances become rather malicious | Mar 27 12:41 |
Ariadne | it doesnt have any microphones | Mar 27 12:41 |
schestowitz | yet | Mar 27 12:42 |
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Ariadne | well, if there's nanoprobes in it that can create microphones on demand of samsung, i *would* love to have the source code to them | Mar 27 12:55 |
schestowitz | remember: | Mar 27 13:01 |
schestowitz | if you said 20 years ago toothbrushes would have bluetooth | Mar 27 13:01 |
schestowitz | and upload data to companies that work with intel agencies | Mar 27 13:01 |
schestowitz | people would call you craaazy | Mar 27 13:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Illinois politicians are still trying to ban GTA. They claim, again, that the game rewards killing the cops. | Mar 27 13:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you try to have a firefight with the cops, you get a SWAT team. If you survive the SWAT teams and police helicopters shooting at you, the Army comes out. | Mar 27 13:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eventually, they kill you and you lose whatever mission you were on and respawn at a hospital less a lot of money and all of your weapons. | Mar 27 13:06 |
schestowitz | I read about it | Mar 27 13:06 |
schestowitz | wasn't that a while back, like start of the month? | Mar 27 13:06 |
schestowitz | meanwhile Utah is trying to ban pr0n again | Mar 27 13:07 |
schestowitz | not sure if Mormom influence... | Mar 27 13:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're designed to be an obstacle and the more you fight them, the worse it gets. You have to get away and wait for the heat to die down. | Mar 27 13:07 |
schestowitz | *mon | Mar 27 13:07 |
techrights-bot | Birds https://pod.haxxors.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_bf35f56971f07dd915f2.gif | Mar 27 13:07 |
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DaemonFC[m] | If you have to, kill one or two and get out of there, but the game isn't going to reward it. It'll try to kill you some other way because you had to do it. | Mar 27 13:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | About the only time you can get into a shootout and win is when it's a limited number of bad guys as part of a mission and the game doesn't just keep spawning more. | Mar 27 13:09 |
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schestowitz | GTA? | Mar 27 13:10 |
schestowitz | I only played the first one | Mar 27 13:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | So the game actually penalizes you severely for killing the police and rewards you for killing bad guys, kind of. Even then, you have to do it out where there's no witnesses. | Mar 27 13:10 |
schestowitz | that was in the late 90s | Mar 27 13:10 |
schestowitz | didn't like that game mucch | Mar 27 13:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Mar 27 13:10 |
schestowitz | some say the game is stress relief | Mar 27 13:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | The games used to be isometric, like Fallout was. | Mar 27 13:11 |
schestowitz | and prevents from actually shooting actual people | Mar 27 13:11 |
schestowitz | bear in mind I always never game anymore | Mar 27 13:11 |
schestowitz | I find them addictive | Mar 27 13:11 |
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schestowitz | and I'm susciptible to getting addicted to them if I improve | Mar 27 13:11 |
schestowitz | Alex Oliva got addicted to some games | Mar 27 13:12 |
schestowitz | he told me, but afaik he only plays free/libre ones | Mar 27 13:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | They had to cut down GTA V to get it on the XBOX 360, by not by much. They said it didn't have enough working memory to have a first person view inside a car, so you had to do it in third person. There were less songs in the soundtrack because the game had to fit on a DVD. | Mar 27 13:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they used Ogg Vorbis, they would have all fit. | Mar 27 13:12 |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF #Censorship ☞ Even with Changes, the Revised PACT Act Will Lead to More Online Censorship https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/even-changes-revised-pact-act-will-lead-more-online-censorship | Mar 27 13:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Even with Changes, the Revised PACT Act Will Lead to More Online Censorship | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 27 13:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | The 360 being cut down is good in some ways. | Mar 27 13:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | They expanded the PC version into the Clown where they can stop piracy because if your copy doesn't pass the smell test or isn't getting updates then they don't let you play. | Mar 27 13:14 |
schestowitz | that's another issue | Mar 27 13:14 |
schestowitz | games are now rented | Mar 27 13:14 |
schestowitz | I used to carry around old doom binaries | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | now they sell you keys instead of games | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | you rent it like a hotal room | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | stadia is one example | Mar 27 13:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, you put Doom on any computer and it's Doom. | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | gnu/linux powered, but only at the back end, and usually chrome-only | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | stadia is failing | Mar 27 13:15 |
schestowitz | people in venezuela used adobe stuff on the clown | Mar 27 13:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ugh, hotel room. Mandy said some old lady he works was asking about that dump we were living in. I told him if she only needs to live somewhere for ten days just pay the extra $200 and stay somewhere where the maid isn't some guy with a grill and a hair pick and there aren't syringes everywhere. | Mar 27 13:16 |
schestowitz | when orange clown decided to attack the country economically people there lost not just access to the software | Mar 27 13:16 |
schestowitz | but also to their files | Mar 27 13:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | So in a way, I did suffer for an entire year. Mandy thought I'd lost my mind when I pulled out the cooler and was sitting in a lawn chair fishing in a retention pond. | Mar 27 13:17 |
schestowitz | well, you see worse in tando | Mar 27 13:18 |
schestowitz | tondo | Mar 27 13:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Asked me what I thought I'd catch. I said, oh a shopping cart about yay big. | Mar 27 13:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, with GTA there's a monthly fee of course. | Mar 27 13:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | They keep releasing islands and heists and then everyone complains about how rushed and poorly designed it was. | Mar 27 13:19 |
schestowitz | hidden fees | Mar 27 13:19 |
schestowitz | like buying cars with installments | Mar 27 13:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Their latest one, there's no do over. You go to the island once and whatever happens there is permanent. | Mar 27 13:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you have to read about what happened when other people eventually won. What's the fun in that? Normal game, you lose and then you figure out a different strategy. Like, okay, I went down that hall and tripped a wire and the alarm went off. | Mar 27 13:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a goldilocks zone with video games. Like, you have to be able to win but it can't be so hard that people just give up. | Mar 27 13:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | That's why Knights of the Old Republic II was pretty good. You get to the end and the boss is so good with the "dark side of the force" that your arms are sore after you eventually do beat the game. | Mar 27 13:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | All of the good Star Wars games were like that. They plays like that. The Dark Side is basically Machiavellianism. The Dark Side characters are tougher because they're willing to misuse the force in order to attack and kill and serve their own ambitions. A Jedi is limited to defending himself and using it for knowledge. | Mar 27 13:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | *play | Mar 27 13:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Dark Side characters in the movies and books often do win (Qui-Gon Jinn _and Obi Wan Kenobi barely managed to defeat Darth Maul, who tricked them and lived through being cut in half and thrown down a pit), or come close (Palpatine would have killed Luke Skywalker without Vader turning on him because he was using too much of his power to notice his control on Vader slipping), or at least come close. | Mar 27 13:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | The subtext of course is that Machiavellian people have a weakness. They're blinded by their own ambition to the point where they miss something obvious. | Mar 27 13:29 |
techrights-bot | Videos: How the #FreeSoftwareFoundation Defied the Corporate Media and an Online Mob That Media Was Herding • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/free-software-foundation-was-right/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/free-software-foundation-was-right/ | Mar 27 13:30 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I think GTA is pretty balanced, but politicians are lying about it. | Mar 27 13:32 |
schestowitz | needing the linelight | Mar 27 13:32 |
schestowitz | bashing games gets them attention | Mar 27 13:32 |
schestowitz | because it's so controversial | Mar 27 13:32 |
schestowitz | Jack Thompson in Florida... | Mar 27 13:33 |
schestowitz | iirc, he was disbarred eventually | Mar 27 13:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | And it's obvious why. They have to go back to voters and promise them easy solutions. It doesn't sell when you go to voters in a high crime district and say the cops should be out there arresting their children and they need to stop promoting thug culture. | Mar 27 13:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Bye, see ya, onto the guy who blames a video game. | Mar 27 13:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | mjg59 probably sees a lot of that in the ghetto....in the ghetto. | Mar 27 13:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | :) | Mar 27 13:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | No, blaming video games "isn't racist". | Mar 27 13:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Calling criminals losers who are either going to plug each other or end up in jail eventually isn't politically correct. | Mar 27 13:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | You piss off gamers, who maybe need to pay attention that hey this guy is an idiot, and look to see what they can do to vote as a bloc to support a primary challenger or something. | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | Oliva: | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > My own observations are that the outbursts in LibrePlanet IRC channels | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > was unanimously favorable (lots of cheering and clapping and YAY!, I was | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > so moved that I even failed to express it myself :-) | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > As expected, corporate media didn't have good words to share about it. | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > Broader community reactions seem to be mixed, also as expected, but I'm | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > surprised and happy to see strong responses and bs-calling in the | Mar 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | > relitigation of the nonsense raised against Richard. | Mar 27 13:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean, they have online chat communities. Why aren't they working as a group to take down the politicians who are behind this? | Mar 27 13:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | You should be pissing off anyone who goes, "Hey, asshole. We have a constitution that says freedom of expression!". | Mar 27 13:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because the same people who want to ban video games are trying to cancel Dr. Seuss and throw books into a pile to be burned. | Mar 27 13:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | And we all know where that ends. | Mar 27 13:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | The guy dumping the lighter fluid on the books is mjg59, as soon as he gets done signing petitions hosted on shithub that people laugh at. | Mar 27 13:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | He's weak and ineffectual, and he deflects by attempting to troll. | Mar 27 13:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | But he's so comically deficient in his arguments that they fall apart immediately, often within the first few sentences of his citation. | Mar 27 13:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's why they need safe spaces. | Mar 27 13:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They rot certain online communities and cancel people who have a difference of opinion with a CoC, but you can build a new community somewhere else. | Mar 27 13:39 |
psydroid | The most disappointing thing for me is that Red Hat as the so-called prime advocate for free (or later on open source, when the corruption had already set in) software decided to side with IBM and Microsoft rather than the free software community, considering it was doing well enough financially and wasn't fighting for its survival like those other companies were doing | Mar 27 13:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | The problem is that Microsoft will eventually buy Discord, which has been pretty open up until now, and then shove a CoC on it, and then user growth will plateau and then go into terminal decline, and it'll be another expensive write off. | Mar 27 13:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because few people want to be controlled the way the PC Nazi babies like Garrett and Microsoft want to control them. | Mar 27 13:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft corrupts either by buying or by having patsies ruin platforms and communities by trolling and sockpuppetry. | Mar 27 13:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | And they haven't bought Matrix dot org or Element, yet, but they're corrupting by positioning patsies everywhere. | Mar 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | psydroid: very true! | Mar 27 13:42 |
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DaemonFC[m] | On what's left of IRC as well. | Mar 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | See what I said about them in the video minutes ago (just published) | Mar 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | but... I won't boycott IBM/Red Hat | Mar 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | I will respond if they boycott our leaders | Mar 27 13:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Garret can be a patsy on IRC because there's a Matrix bridge, so he can work against two communities at the same time. | Mar 27 13:43 |
schestowitz | we can do better than them | Mar 27 13:43 |
schestowitz | they are the intolerant ones | Mar 27 13:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | The bridges have made Matrix a vampire squid, because there's little incentive to write or maintain IRC clients now. | Mar 27 13:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Matrix will just bridge into them and half your users will be bridged in, not actually running IRC. | Mar 27 13:44 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: | Mar 27 13:44 |
schestowitz | Microsoft: "Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them. Thus, you control mindshare!" | Mar 27 13:44 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Mar 27 13:44 |
schestowitz | bbiab | Mar 27 13:44 |
schestowitz | wanna record something | Mar 27 13:44 |
psydroid | Microsoft(-connected) people call me a freeloader tell me to go and see a psychiatrist and if I tell them outright they are astroturfers and I support them in their endeavours to seek help themselves, they go berserk | Mar 27 13:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is taking over Rust because it already had developer attention. | Mar 27 13:44 |
psydroid | I always treat people the way they treat me, which is a good and a bad thing, but I can't help it | Mar 27 13:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a lot of things, but I don't believe it's stupidly designed. | Mar 27 13:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe it can be bent that way if Microsoft keeps "buying in". | Mar 27 13:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | They did a Java VM and then when they got people hooked on it because of great performance on Windows, they started crapping it up with non-standard classes that depended on Win32. | Mar 27 13:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | In a sense, it became "better" (on Windows anyway), to use an API that was Java-like, but a stub to Win32. | Mar 27 13:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sun did a lot of things to shoot themselves in the foot, like licensing it to Microsoft in the first place. | Mar 27 13:47 |
psydroid | I never used Visual J++, but the Sun JVM and Borland JBuilder | Mar 27 13:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | But also, not designing it in a way that ran particularly well on PCs of the time. | Mar 27 13:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | In Netscape, you'd come across sites that used Java and it would grind your hard drive for 20 seconds just "starting java......". | Mar 27 13:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I turned Java off because the applets were usually something unwanted and stupid that took forever on dial up. | Mar 27 13:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's always faster to not load something than it is to load it, on any connection. | Mar 27 13:49 |
psydroid | I got a pre-release version of Visual Studio .NET and .NET Framework 1.0 and wrote some code to experiment with it, but abandoned it when I realised that they wouldn't allow you to access low-level APIs | Mar 27 13:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | I wasn't even considering security. It was just so annoying to have Java start up. | Mar 27 13:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | And then the bundled JVM with Netscape was horrible. Eventually, Netscape co-existed with more modern browsers that could load a regular Java runtime, but the Netscape one would spend a bunch of time starting to error out or crash the browser completely. | Mar 27 13:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sun hurt itself in a lot of ways. | Mar 27 13:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think it was 2002, I noticed there was a Netscape 4.8 and I'm like "WTF.... Why are they even releasing this?". Contractual obligations to support it apparently. | Mar 27 13:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Firefox isn't decaying that badly yet, I guess. | Mar 27 13:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | The 4.0 series of Netscape was just awful and they kept patching it up for over 4 years, and it just never ended with the bugs. | Mar 27 13:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's the browser that gets the most recognizable screen time in Stargate SG-1 though. | Mar 27 13:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I started distributing a "Custom Edition" of Netscape 4.x that rebased on whatever AOL was releasing but used an ISP customization kit. | Mar 27 13:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm pretty sure it violated the EULA, btw. | Mar 27 13:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I gutted it of most of the bundled AOL software and removed the "Shop" button and some other stuff. | Mar 27 13:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | It had a prefs file much like Firefox does, and it turns out that which buttons were displayed in the toolbar could be set there. | Mar 27 13:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | AOL put this big fat Shop button right next to the Stop button. | Mar 27 13:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | I got pissed off because a stop button actually made a lot of sense on dial up if there was some huge resource loading. Some Windows users who made websites would just shove a bitmap file on their website, or take a huge resolution JPEG and resize it using an HTML tag. | Mar 27 13:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | But AOL obviously stuffed this thing here so you'd accidentally hit it and go to an online shopping portal. | Mar 27 14:00 |
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tr_guest|15865 | huh? irc has always been a text based mistery to me :D | Mar 27 14:15 |
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tr_guest|15865 | was just reading http://techrights.org/2019/09/17/rms-witch-hunt/, feels actual these days | Mar 27 14:16 |
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MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: what caught my eye was something that looked like xchat but with a nicklist also on the left side, or at least the widgets on top of the nicklist also on the left side | Mar 27 14:38 |
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MinceR | Ariadne: Hellwig v VMware also seems to break provisions against patent treachery | Mar 27 14:40 |
MinceR | all it takes for a parasite to embed the entire codebase into something much larger that is proprietary, and boom, no more GPLv3 | Mar 27 14:41 |
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CrystalMath | the signatures for the good letter - it's over 3000! | Mar 27 14:46 |
CrystalMath | i really wish we stopped with this +m stuff | Mar 27 14:47 |
CrystalMath | it was better as a free speech channel | Mar 27 14:47 |
sleepy-woke | good letter for what? (just got here) | Mar 27 14:47 |
MinceR | the one in support of rms | Mar 27 14:47 |
sleepy-woke | where can I find it? | Mar 27 14:48 |
CrystalMath | https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ | Mar 27 14:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms-support-letter.github.io | An open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman | An open letter in support of RMS. | Mar 27 14:48 | |
CrystalMath | you can sign without github | Mar 27 14:48 |
CrystalMath | there are ways, it says on the page | Mar 27 14:48 |
sleepy-woke | that's good news, thx! | Mar 27 14:48 |
sleepy-woke | so, to summarize, is this another round of witchhunting? | Mar 27 14:50 |
schestowitz | r | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | > Saw the video, nice! The last time I was on ars technica was when the info about MS repos and VS was in Raspberry Pi OS. Comments were all for MS and I was like... this is NOT the ars I remember. | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | > P.S. I rolled out a distro for pi based on bullseye - no windows repos! :) | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | sleepy-woke: it's a recycled effort | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | they have a go every decade or so | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | 1998 OSI | Mar 27 14:52 |
MinceR | it's an attempt by parasites to take over the FSF by installing their own management there | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | 2009: "emacs virgins" phony 'scandal | Mar 27 14:52 |
schestowitz | 2019: pretending he supports rape | Mar 27 14:53 |
MinceR | they make use of a horde of crybullies to make it happen | Mar 27 14:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then there was the dumbed down XChat. | Mar 27 14:53 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The one that GNOME developers did. | Mar 27 14:53 |
schestowitz | raspi OS fork on the way... | Mar 27 14:53 |
schestowitz | the community is getting stronger | Mar 27 14:54 |
schestowitz | now we know our enemies better | Mar 27 14:54 |
schestowitz | they showed their cards | Mar 27 14:54 |
sleepy-woke | it's really depressing seeing so many famous projects and individuals jumping on the bandwagon... | Mar 27 14:55 |
MinceR | well, yeah | Mar 27 14:56 |
MinceR | but now you know their worth | Mar 27 14:56 |
sleepy-woke | good god, even the Tor project... | Mar 27 14:57 |
schestowitz | This is funny: | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | > I know you've been busy lately :) but here's an update on voting process at OSI... if you haven't heard. | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | > Re-vote at OSI was a no go today... but received an email about the future plan in an update? Content here: | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | > https://opensource.org/election_update | Mar 27 14:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI Election Update: Trust and Transparency in the 2021 Board Election | Open Source Initiative | Mar 27 14:59 | |
schestowitz | > | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | I do an article about it atm | Mar 27 14:59 |
zleap | cool | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | sleepy-woke: Tor as a project doesn't work for software freedom | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | so they showed their cards | Mar 27 14:59 |
zleap | yay i have voice, thanks | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | some people could not be convinced | Mar 27 14:59 |
zleap | schestowitz, long time no chat | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | but now they see what tor stands for... or not | Mar 27 14:59 |
zleap | we used to communciate on mastodon | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | zleap: same name? | Mar 27 14:59 |
zleap | yes | Mar 27 14:59 |
schestowitz | yes, mastodon is volatile | Mar 27 15:00 |
schestowitz | instances shutting down | Mar 27 15:00 |
zleap | ah not good | Mar 27 15:00 |
schestowitz | twice in a row in my case | Mar 27 15:00 |
zleap | why, or is that down to the content you were posting | Mar 27 15:00 |
schestowitz | IRC is easier to work with anyway | Mar 27 15:00 |
sleepy-woke | what could be a viable chat alternative? self hosted matrix and the likes? | Mar 27 15:00 |
schestowitz | all that social control media with notifications is really difficult | Mar 27 15:00 |
zleap | it is for conversations | Mar 27 15:00 |
zleap | irc that is | Mar 27 15:00 |
schestowitz | sleepy-woke: that's also an option | Mar 27 15:01 |
schestowitz | we talked about it here 2 days ag | Mar 27 15:01 |
schestowitz | *ago | Mar 27 15:01 |
superkuh | We should all just leave netcat open on an agreed upon port and connect directly to each other using IP address. :| | Mar 27 15:01 |
sleepy-woke | there could be some serious natting probs xD | Mar 27 15:02 |
MinceR | or we could run sshd on an eepsite (or hidden service) on the same host as an ircd :> | Mar 27 15:03 |
MinceR | apparently the i2p term is "i2p server tunnel" | Mar 27 15:04 |
sleepy-woke | haven't used i2p in a long time, is it still active? | Mar 27 15:05 |
sleepy-woke | seems to be, I'll give it another round :) | Mar 27 15:05 |
MinceR | not sure, but at least it isn't controlled by crybullies | Mar 27 15:07 |
schestowitz | btw, it's very very difficult to have quick conversations in social control media sites | Mar 27 15:07 |
schestowitz | they don't have usability in mind | Mar 27 15:08 |
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schestowitz | the "everything as a web page" mentality is harming the "UX" cargo cult's creed | Mar 27 15:08 |
schestowitz | some things ought to be an application | Mar 27 15:08 |
schestowitz | like KNode for NNTP | Mar 27 15:08 |
sleepy-woke | bzzz.. did I hear electron? xD | Mar 27 15:08 |
schestowitz | or thunderbird for email | Mar 27 15:09 |
sleepy-woke | thunderbird ftw, really can't stand webmail | Mar 27 15:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nintendo price fixing. | Mar 27 15:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even Gonad eventually understood it. | Mar 27 15:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | He was looking for a "deal" on a video game his grandson wanted, and the price was always within a nickel at any store he was at, and I said, "Well, Nintendo uses its monopoly by setting the number of copies in circulation. The only way to get a better deal is to wait for the game to be old enough that there are used copies that people are tired of that Nintendo has to compete with.". | Mar 27 15:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | But now with "Downloadable Content", they took away the second use market too. | Mar 27 15:11 |
sleepy-woke | talk about nintendo, never seen their first parties on sale | Mar 27 15:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | The price of NES, SNES, and N64 cartridges has gone way up again. | Mar 27 15:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Should have held onto those. | Mar 27 15:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Over the years, they get damaged or destroyed. Nobody is making new ones. | Mar 27 15:12 |
sleepy-woke | and if buy a darn digital game, you can't share its expansions in the same family account | Mar 27 15:13 |
sleepy-woke | i argued with their customer support, for nothing | Mar 27 15:13 |
zleap | this is the problem with non free stuff eh | Mar 27 15:13 |
sleepy-woke | they're going beyond the old system, with digital you haven't even a cart to keep for yourself or to share | Mar 27 15:14 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 15:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Gog sells them on reasonable terms I guess. | Mar 27 15:15 |
zleap | all the more reason for this current fsf crisis to be resolved, the fsf to emerge stronger and start taking some true leadership | Mar 27 15:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | No DRM. Money back if they can't get it to work on your computer for some reason. | Mar 27 15:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's more than you usually get. | Mar 27 15:15 |
schestowitz | zleap: crisis? | Mar 27 15:15 |
schestowitz | maybe pr issue | Mar 27 15:15 |
schestowitz | but I work on an article atm | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | if you want to help me proofread | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | it contradicts that thesis about "crisis" | Mar 27 15:16 |
zleap | well both, end of the day, the fsf needs to emerge stroger | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | lots of free publicity | Mar 27 15:16 |
zleap | and learn from what has happened | Mar 27 15:16 |
sleepy-woke | well... i don't think that the fsf can be "saved", at this point. too many snowflakes | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | I am waiting for the video to finish uploading (200mb) | Mar 27 15:16 |
zleap | ah ok | Mar 27 15:16 |
schestowitz | sleepy-woke: no, loud minority | Mar 27 15:17 |
schestowitz | I am told by insiders the people inside, the core people, are happy | Mar 27 15:17 |
zleap | i have send some ideas to the libreplanet list, if concerns are raised you need to listen and take them seriously then resolve the issues | Mar 27 15:17 |
schestowitz | just a bit surprised by the intensity of the counter-attack | Mar 27 15:17 |
zleap | it could be a simple mis understanding, but people should feel safe at work | Mar 27 15:17 |
schestowitz | gnome, osi, fsfe etc. were always against them and rms | Mar 27 15:18 |
zleap | schestowitz, well i think this has been festering for a while, it was probably a matter of time | Mar 27 15:18 |
schestowitz | they only "like" FSF is it takes orders from sponsors such as Google | Mar 27 15:18 |
schestowitz | they don't like the FSF | Mar 27 15:18 |
schestowitz | they try to control the FSF and change it | Mar 27 15:18 |
zleap | people need to feel safe at work, and this is from experience of someone who has not felt safe in the work place | Mar 27 15:19 |
zleap | so a lot of my ideas on dealing with things, comes from experience(s) | Mar 27 15:19 |
sleepy-woke | you mean that they are supporting the current witchhunt to avoid the risk of being dumped? | Mar 27 15:19 |
zleap | sleepy-woke, showing their true colours and aligence or shooting themselves in the foot depending on how you look at it | Mar 27 15:20 |
sleepy-woke | that makes sense, unfortunately | Mar 27 15:20 |
sleepy-woke | I wonder, what could be an effective way of opposing the mob? | Mar 27 15:22 |
schestowitz | "Safe" as in... work security? | Mar 27 15:22 |
schestowitz | employment? | Mar 27 15:22 |
sleepy-woke | I think zleap meant exactly that | Mar 27 15:22 |
zleap | schestowitz, being able to feel safe at work, raise concerns or worries and be listened to, which is not jst about others behavioir, problems at home , you speak up and someone can help | Mar 27 15:23 |
zleap | but also an open plan office is less easy for people to get too close or try and harrass you | Mar 27 15:24 |
zleap | where as closed pods make it easier, no one can see you or others, | Mar 27 15:24 |
zleap | or you may need time off for family issues, you should not be afraid to ask, for help in that respect | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | those are rare | Mar 27 15:25 |
zleap | yes | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | employers feel threatened | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | by any critics | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | I tried | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | and got in trouble at times | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | but eventually the managers got fired | Mar 27 15:25 |
zleap | so we need to build a better work place then | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | it's risky, but sometimes it's wotth it | Mar 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | the FSF seems more open and receptive to critics... than the mob attacking its right to exist | Mar 27 15:26 |
zleap | women feel very threatened by men, still get whistles, comments etc | Mar 27 15:26 |
zleap | schestowitz, i am suggestig ideas as it is more constructive to saying the fsf should do, or should have done more | Mar 27 15:26 |
schestowitz | that's a societal cultural thing | Mar 27 15:26 |
zleap | schestowitz, indeed | Mar 27 15:26 |
schestowitz | happens a lot outside the workplace too | Mar 27 15:26 |
schestowitz | cab drivers, shop keepers... | Mar 27 15:26 |
schestowitz | so it's not limited to workplaces | Mar 27 15:27 |
schestowitz | just as it's wrong to assert free software is intolerant... any more than CS/STEM or society in general | Mar 27 15:27 |
schestowitz | those are PR tricks | Mar 27 15:27 |
zleap | but i think in toronto buses can drop women off at street corners for example it is a safety thing so the are closer to home or other stops | Mar 27 15:27 |
schestowitz | and the whole "let's drop master" stuff if designed to cause infighting | Mar 27 15:27 |
zleap | schestowitz, i understand master / slave in the context of hard disks has nothing to do with slavery | Mar 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | yes, but it's a non-issue | Mar 27 15:28 |
zleap | that is just an excuse by the mob to attack / cancel people | Mar 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | they use their media to say it is | Mar 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | and then people fight | Mar 27 15:28 |
zleap | they want to divide | Mar 27 15:28 |
sleepy-woke | the master / slave issue is absurd | Mar 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | yes, it's a tactic | Mar 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | it's in their strategy documents | Mar 27 15:29 |
schestowitz | to weaken the rivals you divide them | Mar 27 15:29 |
zleap | i can see how it makes sense, but it is still nonsense when there are currently people being shot for protsting in myanmar | Mar 27 15:29 |
schestowitz | and then they destroy each other | Mar 27 15:29 |
zleap | perhaps if they want to complain about human rights, they should cancel the myanmar leaders | Mar 27 15:29 |
zleap | complain, - stand up for human rights | Mar 27 15:29 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ | Mar 27 15:29 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/ | Mar 27 15:30 |
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zleap | people forget history or the bits they want to forget | Mar 27 15:31 |
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zleap | where as history is too intertwined together for that | Mar 27 15:31 |
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schestowitz | that's the job of PR people | Mar 27 15:32 |
schestowitz | IBM sends PR people at us | Mar 27 15:32 |
schestowitz | to say IBM is against racism | Mar 27 15:32 |
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schestowitz | They've been doing that for a decade or more http://techrights.org/2011/06/01/ibm-pr-fails/ | Mar 27 15:35 |
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schestowitz | you have to wonder what rhey told PJ/Groklaw.. | Mar 27 15:35 |
schestowitz | maybe as remnant from the old days... | Mar 27 15:36 |
schestowitz | IBM still a lot of leverage over the media | Mar 27 15:36 |
zleap | yea | Mar 27 15:36 |
zleap | and i guess education | Mar 27 15:36 |
schestowitz | lots of employees there.... many on legal department (patent extortion) and "sales" | Mar 27 15:36 |
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schestowitz | they now work with the 'Ljnux' Foundation to erase their past | Mar 27 15:37 |
schestowitz | they totally googlebombed the media | Mar 27 15:37 |
schestowitz | sponsoring LF, which in turn bribes publishers | Mar 27 15:37 |
schestowitz | to say IBM does projects against racism | Mar 27 15:37 |
schestowitz | not even once acknowledging past and present racist contracts | Mar 27 15:37 |
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schestowitz | they work with Palantir now | Mar 27 15:38 |
zleap | lets hope the fsf follow the advice, keep you friends close, and your enemies closer (or whatever the actual wording is) | Mar 27 15:38 |
zleap | even the initial debian statement has caused anger (or I get that impression) as it isn't representative of the whole community | Mar 27 15:39 |
schestowitz | no, it's not a good proverb for FSF | Mar 27 15:39 |
schestowitz | they should not keep enemies closer | Mar 27 15:39 |
zleap | ok | Mar 27 15:39 |
schestowitz | it's what eating them | Mar 27 15:39 |
zleap | i think that is more about keeping an eye on them i think | Mar 27 15:40 |
schestowitz | Ben Mako-Hill suggested distancing themselves further from Open Source | Mar 27 15:40 |
schestowitz | and now it seems clear he was right | Mar 27 15:40 |
zleap | yeh | Mar 27 15:40 |
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schestowitz | they're backstabbers | Mar 27 15:40 |
zleap | i think you are right there | Mar 27 15:40 |
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zleap | maybe they need to bump up hurd development | Mar 27 15:40 |
schestowitz | Debian leadership if problematic | Mar 27 15:40 |
schestowitz | *is | Mar 27 15:40 |
MinceR | hurd is dead | Mar 27 15:40 |
schestowitz | and divisive where it's unnecessary | Mar 27 15:40 |
zleap | ah ok | Mar 27 15:41 |
MinceR | https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html | Mar 27 15:41 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: sort of | Mar 27 15:41 |
schestowitz | there are better kernels now | Mar 27 15:41 |
MinceR | a multiserver microkernel OS is pointless if it incorporates the world's biggest single point of failure | Mar 27 15:41 |
zleap | ah ok | Mar 27 15:42 |
schestowitz | http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/grToxique/ | Mar 27 15:43 |
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schestowitz | "Many quickly reacted to the return of rms to the FSF and asked that he leaves again; some also asked for the whole board of directors to resign and some not. Meanwhile, Debian discusses a general resolution on that matter. Maybe it was not the original intent, but in practice the object of the GR is about FSF's board of directors. Perhaps we will have the result after rms resigns? Like many GRs, it will divide Debian and leave scars, | Mar 27 15:43 |
schestowitz | at least a tally sheet of who voted what, and who voted like whom." | Mar 27 15:43 |
zleap | i know there are some project leaders who see fit to abuse others, i just hope the fsf can distance them selves from those projects too, as part of a leadershoip showing respect | Mar 27 15:43 |
zleap | people can leave projects as easily as they started | Mar 27 15:44 |
zleap | and do that | Mar 27 15:44 |
zleap | Debian cannot really afford to lose people it is struggling in places as it is to maintain pacakges | Mar 27 15:45 |
zleap | neither can any project | Mar 27 15:45 |
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zleap | a vote for and against does not tell the story, i support RMS as he supports 4 freedoms, i made my cmments on safe spaces to stop or hopefully stop similar situations on non action happening again | Mar 27 15:46 |
zleap | comments | Mar 27 15:47 |
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CrystalMath | a safe-space from false accusations? that's something new that i have never seen | Mar 27 15:49 |
CrystalMath | safe spaces are meant to prop up people who complain about everythng | Mar 27 15:49 |
CrystalMath | *everything | Mar 27 15:49 |
zleap | like i said a safe space allows you to raise concerns or talk about any problems so employers can help you | Mar 27 15:50 |
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zleap | could be a change to working hours or anything, so you feel able to speak up | Mar 27 15:51 |
schestowitz__ | is that what "Safe space" means now? | Mar 27 15:51 |
zleap | i dunno, people should feel safe and not subject to abuse anywhere | Mar 27 15:52 |
schestowitz__ | emotional | Mar 27 15:52 |
zleap | lockdown in the Uk has resulted in an increase in reports of domestic abuse | Mar 27 15:53 |
schestowitz__ | not just UK | Mar 27 15:54 |
zleap | indeed | Mar 27 15:54 |
schestowitz__ | well, people spend more time with other people at home | Mar 27 15:54 |
schestowitz__ | so it is inevitable | Mar 27 15:54 |
schestowitz__ | but office space abuse likely decreased | Mar 27 15:54 |
zleap | esp during lockdown when work places are closed | Mar 27 15:54 |
schestowitz__ | fewer jobs, fewer offices | Mar 27 15:54 |
zleap | I think you said earlier all the whistling and comments towards people come from social issues, | Mar 27 15:55 |
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schestowitz__ | some homes are not even suitable for the number of tenants | Mar 27 15:55 |
zleap | indeed | Mar 27 15:55 |
schestowitz__ | they assume some are away somewhere, at least part of the time | Mar 27 15:55 |
zleap | and some tennants are scared to speak out in case they get kicked out by landlords | Mar 27 15:56 |
schestowitz__ | so densely populated towns and overcrowded homes will have more abuse in them | Mar 27 15:56 |
schestowitz__ | landMains | Mar 27 15:56 |
schestowitz__ | or LandLeaders | Mar 27 15:56 |
zleap | well given the impact on mental health this last year has had on people perhaps there will be some changes | Mar 27 15:57 |
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schestowitz__ | protest laws changing | Mar 27 15:57 |
schestowitz__ | changes afoot | Mar 27 15:57 |
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schestowitz__ | to limit the 'plebs' gathering | Mar 27 15:57 |
schestowitz__ | "to protect them" | Mar 27 15:57 |
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zleap | schestowitz__, on a tech rights viewpoint what do you think to amazon apparently forcing employees in to biometric tracking | Mar 27 15:58 |
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schestowitz__ | zleap: this was brought up earlier today | Mar 27 15:59 |
schestowitz__ | [11:38] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Internal Documents Show Amazon Knows Its Drivers Urinate, Defecate in Trucks https://truthout.org/articles/leaked-documents-show-amazon-knows-its-drivers-urinate-defecate-in-trucks/ | Mar 27 15:59 |
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zleap | https://www.chargedretail.co.uk/2021/03/24/amazon-is-forcing-drivers-to-sign-biometric-consent-forms-or-risk-being-sacked/ | Mar 27 15:59 |
schestowitz__ | [13:13] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Dystopia Prime: #Amazon Subjects Its Drivers to Biometric #Surveillance https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/dystopia-prime-amazon-subjects-its-drivers-biometric-surveillance RMS warned about such things, but EFF attacks RMS and takes surveillance $ from Google | Mar 27 15:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chargedretail.co.uk | Amazon is forcing drivers to sign "biometric consent" forms or risk being sacked - Latest Retail Technology News From Across The Globe - Charged | Mar 27 15:59 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Dystopia Prime: Amazon Subjects Its Drivers to Biometric Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 27 15:59 | |
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zleap | so maybe the definition of safe work spaces need to also include things like this | Mar 27 16:00 |
schestowitz__ | NYTimes recently did an article about Amazon that quotes RMS | Mar 27 16:00 |
schestowitz__ | and it was about boycotting Amazon | Mar 27 16:00 |
schestowitz__ | or a life without Amazon | Mar 27 16:00 |
schestowitz__ | I boycott it myself... since forever | Mar 27 16:00 |
schestowitz__ | some workplaces are not even lawful | Mar 27 16:01 |
schestowitz__ | but without enforcement of the law they get away with it... or pay some fines | Mar 27 16:01 |
zleap | schestowitz__, indeed, hence perhaps safe working environment can probably cover quite a range of issues | Mar 27 16:01 |
zleap | schestowitz__, a fine for amazon is small change for them i guess | Mar 27 16:02 |
schestowitz__ | because they design the law | Mar 27 16:02 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 16:02 |
schestowitz__ | it'll never be billions in fines | Mar 27 16:02 |
schestowitz__ | or death sentence to the company | Mar 27 16:02 |
schestowitz__ | "we hereby shut you down" | Mar 27 16:02 |
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zleap | well facebook have shown they can block the news to force or try and force what they want | Mar 27 16:02 |
schestowitz__ | "assets seized by state for crimes against workers" | Mar 27 16:03 |
lockeanarchist | funny that they are always more concerned about UE | Mar 27 16:03 |
lockeanarchist | because UE is a little more strict | Mar 27 16:03 |
lockeanarchist | *EU | Mar 27 16:03 |
zleap | ah | Mar 27 16:03 |
zleap | so yes, safe place to work should be very broad, we have the health and safety at work act for a reason, right to work act, and coming in laws to protect staff from abuse, assault from customers | Mar 27 16:04 |
zleap | not that we need more laws for the latter, we need to enforce existing laws | Mar 27 16:04 |
schestowitz__ | selective enforcement | Mar 27 16:04 |
schestowitz__ | apparently RMS needs to be sacked | Mar 27 16:05 |
schestowitz__ | "he looks at her funny..." | Mar 27 16:05 |
zleap | he may yet be asked to leave, after any due process takes place | Mar 27 16:05 |
zleap | lets see what happens | Mar 27 16:06 |
zleap | looks like signatures are coming in, maybe people are searching for actual statements as to what has happened rather than reading selective parts | Mar 27 16:07 |
laggy_ | well, believing everything one reads on the net from partial sources is never a good idea | Mar 27 16:08 |
lockeanarchist | would be bad if rms do his own little parallel foundation to support some projects and advocacy? | Mar 27 16:08 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 16:08 |
laggy_ | it probably would be seen as a crazy man's nest | Mar 27 16:08 |
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schestowitz__ | no need | Mar 27 16:09 |
schestowitz__ | FSF is OK | Mar 27 16:09 |
zleap | i think rms should perhaps just stick to taking about software freedom etc, and leave issues such as trans, etc out of it | Mar 27 16:09 |
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zleap | esp as what he says gets taken out of context to attack him | Mar 27 16:09 |
zleap | and will do, as the hate mob will just look at the past all the time | Mar 27 16:10 |
laggy_ | the point is that he never talked about such issues from himself, and in some circumstances it would be seen even worse if he didn't give an answer at all | Mar 27 16:10 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 16:10 |
zleap | he can't win | Mar 27 16:10 |
zleap | people can't win on these issues | Mar 27 16:10 |
schestowitz__ | they will find other grounds for attack | Mar 27 16:10 |
zleap | indeed | Mar 27 16:10 |
schestowitz__ | so we do not identify the root cause | Mar 27 16:10 |
schestowitz__ | brb | Mar 27 16:11 |
zleap | ok | Mar 27 16:11 |
schestowitz__ | Checking http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/ report typos! | Mar 27 16:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | Techrights | Mar 27 16:11 | |
zleap | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55158319 | Mar 27 16:11 |
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laggy_ | didn't know OSI what still a thing | Mar 27 16:11 |
lockeanarchist | it is | Mar 27 16:12 |
zleap | given that, there are far more pressing issues that we need to address now, we have got to make a stand against all this surveylance | Mar 27 16:12 |
MinceR | it exists, it just happens to work counter to its original purpose | Mar 27 16:12 |
psydroid | <zleap "well facebook have shown they ca"> they have been able to do so because they initially misrepresented what their goals were and what they were doing, so people just went along not realising what kind of monster it actually was going to be | Mar 27 16:12 |
zleap | psydroid, indeed | Mar 27 16:12 |
psydroid | unfiltered RSS feeds is what we have needed all along, but unfortunately credible news sources have been dying out | Mar 27 16:12 |
lockeanarchist | But I think that OSI is just a corporate advocacy group, not a FLOSS ag | Mar 27 16:12 |
zleap | a good reason to push the fediverse, and help drive that forward, encourage people to set up their own instances | Mar 27 16:13 |
zleap | i am ona few science RSS feeds | Mar 27 16:13 |
laggy_ | that's the only sensible way of really protecting one's privacy | Mar 27 16:13 |
zleap | laggy_, and this is where we need the fsf to eb strong , as these platforms run on free software | Mar 27 16:14 |
zleap | even if the fsf don't promote say Mastodon directly | Mar 27 16:14 |
laggy_ | federation is an awesome concept but not always easily feasible, hence the comfort offered by the priers | Mar 27 16:15 |
zleap | which reminds me i propbably have a social hub discussion to respond to | Mar 27 16:15 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 16:15 |
zleap | but it is a start, convincing others to dump facebook they are just blind to what is going on, | Mar 27 16:16 |
laggy_ | i've seen a little spike in signal adoption, after the whatsapp drama | Mar 27 16:17 |
lockeanarchist | about osi. even esr was cancelled last year by them | Mar 27 16:17 |
lockeanarchist | don't know the reasons tho | Mar 27 16:17 |
zleap | laggy_, there was yes | Mar 27 16:19 |
zleap | I am linking to some fediverse flyers on my blog https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/tag:Fediverse | Mar 27 16:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-personaljournal.ca | Fediverse — Paul Sutton | Mar 27 16:19 | |
zleap | which can be downloaded from the qoto gitlab | Mar 27 16:20 |
zleap | try and do something to help with promotion | Mar 27 16:20 |
zleap | or I am trying | Mar 27 16:20 |
laggy_ | nice! and i've just read cloudflare... argh my rage is pumping | Mar 27 16:21 |
zleap | sorry | Mar 27 16:21 |
zleap | i just use the services | Mar 27 16:22 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/634648.jpg | Mar 27 16:22 |
techrights-bot | The #FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the #OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/ | Mar 27 16:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | Techrights | Mar 27 16:22 | |
laggy_ | zleap: lol I read it on the flyer :> | Mar 27 16:22 |
zleap | i don't even understand what cloudflare is, or how to get round it | Mar 27 16:23 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: it's not even milk | Mar 27 16:23 |
schestowitz__ | not lactose | Mar 27 16:23 |
zleap | i didn't design them, i am just hosting them to help spread the word | Mar 27 16:23 |
schestowitz__ | it's just water with stuff in it | Mar 27 16:23 |
MinceR | :) | Mar 27 16:23 |
schestowitz__ | "may contain some almond bits... and sugar" | Mar 27 16:23 |
zleap | it is like on the wallace and grommt film where grommit puts a box over wallace, box has label may contain nuts | Mar 27 16:24 |
laggy_ | could contain traces of | Mar 27 16:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someone donated a sweater to Goodwill with $42,000 in the pocket, and the employee that found it returned it to the owner. | Mar 27 16:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | When my grandmother died, she had over $60,000 in cigar boxes in the house. | Mar 27 16:27 |
techrights-bot | Corporations do not want Stallman back at the #FSF (we did a detailed article about how the corporate media was spreading lies about what he had said and done); but that’s fine because the #FreeSoftwareFoundation (FSF) stands for people, whether they code or not • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/free-software-foundation-was-right/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03 | Mar 27 16:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Videos: How the Free Software Foundation Defied the Corporate Media and an Online Mob That Media Was Herding | Techrights | Mar 27 16:27 | |
DaemonFC[m] | She had survived the Depression and didn't trust banks with their money, so it just piled up as the pension checks came in. | Mar 27 16:27 |
laggy_ | that was a big pocket, and your grandma was a remarkable saver! | Mar 27 16:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | They owned their house and so their only real expenses were utilities and property tax. | Mar 27 16:27 |
zleap | i saw on the news a while back people found bottles of whisky in side their house, hidden since the prohibtion days | Mar 27 16:27 |
zleap | worth quite a lot of money | Mar 27 16:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | My uncle found the money and he's a good man, so he told his brothers and sisters about it. | Mar 27 16:28 |
zleap | :) | Mar 27 16:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | They spent money on the funeral and then they split what was left in five ways. | Mar 27 16:28 |
laggy_ | lucky! my family wasn't that friendly | Mar 27 16:28 |
techrights-bot | FOSS Patents: #Samsung gets 'westerndistricted' by non-practicing entity asserting LED patents in Waco, TX ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/samsung-gets-westerndistricted-by-non.html "undisputed "market leader" among all roughly 100 U.S. federal judicial districts. " •●• #fosspatents | Mar 27 16:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Samsung gets 'westerndistricted' by non-practicing entity asserting LED patents in Waco, TX | Mar 27 16:28 | |
techrights-bot | The ‘zombie’ body known as #OSI is totally destroyed (it cannot even figure out who speaks for it!); it’s incapable of resuscitating itself, so it’s just strapping on a suicide vest and trying everything it can possibly leverage to destroy the #FSF • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/ | Mar 27 16:29 |
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techrights-bot | "This is the response I got from RMS. It sounds as if he strongly wantsthose minor points. Are we interested in having Debian be "the" GNU system? I'd rather be "the" Linux system and avoid the politics." http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00387.html | Mar 27 16:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | <laggy_ "that was a big pocket, and your "> My spouse was unhappy that I set up a 401(k) for him. His employer starts matching on the first pay period after his first year with the company, which is coming up. | Mar 27 16:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told him that if they're going to throw in a matching $2,000 a year, he's not going to leave that on the table because if he works there for 30 years, that's whatever the inflation adjusted amount of $60,000 extra would be. | Mar 27 16:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | In other words, a year and a half of pay forfeit if you don't contribute to your retirement account. | Mar 27 16:32 |
techrights-bot | "Highly undiplomatic behavior. The "Linux is not an operating system" flap he made on the linux-kernel list did not gain him anything, it just made him new enemies. Why, then, did he do it?" http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00660.html | Mar 27 16:32 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Employers love those people who say "Why would I start a retirement account. I'm not going to retire from here!". | Mar 27 16:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | The money's yours, even if you got fired. You can roll it over into another 401(k). | Mar 27 16:33 |
techrights-bot | "Note that empathy is not the same thing as "yes sir, yes sir." And, frankly, I'm amazed at anyone who expresses reverence towards RMS." http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00666.html | Mar 27 16:34 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Mandy works with a bunch of people who didn't save anything. | Mar 27 16:35 |
techrights-bot | it is possible." http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00676.html | Mar 27 16:35 |
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DaemonFC[m] | That should be a warning. Either put money in now and disregard it while it matches and grows, or figure out what working at Walmart is like when you're 70. | Mar 27 16:35 |
zleap | I think he wants people to acknolwedge that Linux (kernel) is linked to the gnu tools and licesne | Mar 27 16:35 |
techrights-bot | "Sometimes RMS won't agree with our interpretation of his goals, but much of the time, we should be able to reach a common ground. At least once, I was able to convince RMS to change his mind through some pressure and a lot of (somewhat) reasoned arguments. I know that it is possible." http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00676.html | Mar 27 16:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I actually did some research. The ERISA law does exempt employer-sponsored 401(k)s from most garnishment creditors. | Mar 27 16:36 |
zleap | i think that is a good thing we don't always agree, it allows argumetns and counter arguments to view points | Mar 27 16:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | The exceptions are federal (but not state) taxes, alimony, and child support. | Mar 27 16:36 |
techrights-bot | "I've just read an article from Richard Stallman (FSF) with the following title in gnu.announce: ! [ 82: Richard Stallman ] The FSF is no longer sponsoring Debian" http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00689.html | Mar 27 16:36 |
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zleap | techrights-bot, woah, so fall out from debians reaction then | Mar 27 16:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was thinking "But what if Mandy has a hospital bill and they just snatch all his retirement money.". But apparently this type of account can't be garnished. | Mar 27 16:36 |
techrights-bot | #RMS on enforcing against #Qt http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg06707.html | Mar 27 16:37 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I suppose that's one upside of having a government that doesn't do shit for you. | Mar 27 16:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | The immigration scheme has to consider whether you'll be a burden on the public, but since unpaid hospital bills are a gypsy curse on you, that's not their problem like it would be in a country with national healthcare. | Mar 27 16:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the UK, they're probably very concerned about letting in someone that could end up using the hospital. | Mar 27 16:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | In return, they'll want more evidence that you can pay a lot of taxes and won't have any health concerns for a while. | Mar 27 16:39 |
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techrights-bot | "The following is an exchange I've been having with Richard Stallman over yesterday and this morning. My conclusion is that what he is asking for is not stuff that it's reasonable for us to do, that that Debian can not work together with FSF." http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00329.html | Mar 27 16:40 |
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zleap | if you are not a UK resident and need hospital care while here, you are meant to pay for it | Mar 27 16:40 |
zleap | or something not too sure | Mar 27 16:40 |
techrights-bot | 2 years before #OSI http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg00332.html | Mar 27 16:41 |
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laggy_ | some countries cover foreign healthcare costs, as long as it is a vacation stay | Mar 27 16:41 |
techrights-bot | "THIS THING CALLED “OSI” was all along an attack on the FSF, which predates it by 13 years. Yes, 13 years. OSI’s unstated goal was to steal the thunder and grab the limelight" http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/ | Mar 27 16:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | Techrights | Mar 27 16:41 | |
techrights-bot | #Debian GNU/Linux 10.9 “Buster” Released with 30 Security Updates, #GRUB2 Patches • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149301 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 16:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 10.9 “Buster” Released with 30 Security Updates, GRUB2 Patches | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:42 | |
zleap | tehre is a european health card to do that | Mar 27 16:43 |
laggy_ | well, after OSI, we could talk about Microsoft's sudden love for Linux when they realized that their own cloud sucked... cough... azure .. cough | Mar 27 16:43 |
zleap | i still don't trust microsofts love on Linux given their history of embrace, extend extinguish | Mar 27 16:43 |
laggy_ | of course they cannot be trusted | Mar 27 16:44 |
laggy_ | they're in there for the money, as google and amazon | Mar 27 16:44 |
zleap | yeah | Mar 27 16:44 |
MinceR | there's no reason to trust them | Mar 27 16:44 |
zleap | i got 2 go, have emailed the discussion link between rms and someone here to myself for later discussion | Mar 27 16:44 |
MinceR | they haven't stopped using patents to blackmail Linux device vendors into preinstalling microsoft malware on devices | Mar 27 16:44 |
MinceR | they haven't showed the slightest bit of remorse or lack of hostility | Mar 27 16:45 |
MinceR | they just lie in ads and people today are so stupid they tend to believe everything they see in ads | Mar 27 16:45 |
zleap | they lie in ads posted to facebook | Mar 27 16:45 |
zleap | or as people call it fakebook | Mar 27 16:45 |
zleap | anyway got 2 go, if ytou need me on fedi it's @zleap@qoto.org lets connnect and work together to help spread free software etc | Mar 27 16:46 |
zleap | chat later | Mar 27 16:46 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://abc7chicago.com/10451399/?ex_cid=TA_WLS_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook | Mar 27 16:48 |
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*psydroid believes putting Microsoft out of business is a first but necessary step to make the world a better place | Mar 27 16:54 | |
techrights-bot | #debian leadership tactless dividing its own project/community. This will harm them. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083?page=1#comment-28858 | Mar 27 16:59 |
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techrights-bot | #debian leadership tactlessly dividing its own project/community. This will harm them. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083?page=1#comment-28858 | Mar 27 17:00 |
techrights-bot | Putting a stain on your face https://hugelolcdn.com/i/738751.jpg | Mar 27 17:04 |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149302 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 17:05 |
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techrights-bot | Links 27/3/2021: #Debian GNU/Linux 10.9 and Speaking to the #Lutris Creator • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/debian-gnu-linux-10-9/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/debian-gnu-linux-10-9/ | Mar 27 17:25 |
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techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware and #DRM Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149303 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 17:25 |
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techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149304 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 27 17:25 |
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AVRS | schestowitz__: on the main page, there are links to IPFS and Gemini, but no obvious ways to get to articles on what they are | Mar 27 17:33 |
MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2414/ | Mar 27 17:37 |
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MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2415/ | Mar 27 21:01 |
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ephemer0l | https://www.dw.com/en/venezuela-facebook-freezes-maduros-page-over-covid-misinformation/a-57026967 | Mar 27 21:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Venezuela: Facebook freezes Maduro′s page over COVID misinformation | News | DW | 27.03.2021 | Mar 27 21:13 | |
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schestowitz__ | [17:33] <AVRS> schestowitz__: on the main page, there are links to IPFS and Gemini, but no obvious ways to get to articles on what they are | Mar 27 22:00 |
schestowitz__ | The assumption was, if you don't know what they are, you probably don't or won't care | Mar 27 22:00 |
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schestowitz__ | MinceR: ingur becoming unbearable without JS | Mar 27 22:04 |
schestowitz__ | and without consenting to spyware | Mar 27 22:04 |
MinceR | they also love deleting images | Mar 27 22:04 |
MinceR | but rehosting galleries isn't that easy | Mar 27 22:04 |
schestowitz__ | i c | Mar 27 22:04 |
*schestowitz__ gives voice to gullfaxi[m] | Mar 27 22:05 | |
*schestowitz__ gives voice to aindilis | Mar 27 22:05 | |
schestowitz__ | ephemer0l: seems like a trend | Mar 27 22:06 |
schestowitz__ | get rid of those whom you don't like, now dress that up as "for safety" or "for health" | Mar 27 22:06 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Mar 27 22:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Mar 27 22:07 | |
schestowitz__ | [18:48] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- gizmodo.com | Apple Releases iOS 14.4.2 to Patch an Active Security Exploit | Mar 27 22:08 |
schestowitz__ | buy the latest version | Mar 27 22:08 |
schestowitz__ | the phone, not the OS | Mar 27 22:08 |
schestowitz__ | always stay a step ahead, get a load | Mar 27 22:08 |
schestowitz__ | loan | Mar 27 22:08 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: looks like they removed the car | Mar 27 22:09 |
MinceR | maybe their servers shat the bed | Mar 27 22:10 |
MinceR | too much bloat | Mar 27 22:10 |
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schestowitz__ | long paste warning: | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Attention: Geoffrey Knauth, Chairman | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Dear Members of the Board: | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Re: The Reinstatement of Richard Stallman to the FSF Board | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | I read, with enthusiasm, reports on RMS’ return to the board of the Free Software Foundation. Predictably, the | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | calls to reverse his reinstatement resound round the Web: | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | “Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | community for a long time”.[1] | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | I agree that RMS is dangerous. He is a clear and present danger to those corporate vultures who - threatened by | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | the ascendancy of free software over their proprietary strongholds - sponsored the 2019 attack that cancelled his | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | presidency. MIT professors reciprocated by cancelling his position as “Visiting Scientist” pretending that they | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | didn’t know how to read. Should we be surprised that the most prominent of the calls to exile RMS from the very | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | movement he founded is hosted by a Microsoft server? | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Just who is abusing women? The devices employed by the cancel vultures include abusing women, female | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | faces (who don’t code) exploited to advocate against RMS’ so-called “misogyny”. The reason sexist jokes are | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | embedded in hacker culture is because like puns, music and sci-fi, they are part of the hacker identity. To quote | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Madeline Albright “[f]rankly, this is not cojones” - the FSF caved in to the vultures; failed to rise up!! | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | I am appalled that Alexandre Oliva, was asked to resign on account of his fundraising message suggesting that | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | prospective members advise the FSF of their interest in having RMS reinstated. RMS will need allies by his side, | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | not only to counter attacks by the vultures, but to realise a vision for the future of the FSF, GNU and the Free | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | Software Movement itself. | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | (written by female) | Mar 27 22:29 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: yeah, all that for an image of animation! | Mar 27 22:29 |
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schestowitz__ | Re: Ehmke and creative commons | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > https://creativecommons.org/2021/03/19/open-minds-podcast-coraline-ada-ehmke-on-ethical-source/ | Mar 27 22:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Open Minds Podcast: Coraline Ada Ehmke on Ethical Source - Creative Commons | Mar 27 22:40 | |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > I had supported free culture. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > I had even worked with the commons. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > In 2014, I believe they closed their physical doors, not that this really matters but we were told for lack of funding. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > Ehmke and creative commons. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | > I will not support commons at all now. At. all. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | I saw that myself. I follow them over RSS. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | Then more people pointed this out to me as well.. | Mar 27 22:40 |
schestowitz__ | CC is clearly making itself enemies. It didn't have to... | Mar 27 22:40 |
MinceR | curious | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | > Great news, because I am exhausted! Was feeling a bit defeated. | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | > :) | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | > The good thing is we know where Redhat and creative commons stand, as well as others... | Mar 27 22:41 |
schestowitz__ | Wait, did CC said anything about RMS? Or just giving platform to that troll? | Mar 27 22:41 |
MinceR | CC signed the hatchet job against RMS | Mar 27 22:42 |
MinceR | so they're crybullies | Mar 27 22:42 |
MinceR | ehmke is also a crybully | Mar 27 22:42 |
MinceR | yet now they're at each others' throats | Mar 27 22:42 |
MinceR | i hope they take each other out | Mar 27 22:42 |
schestowitz__ | all of CC? | Mar 27 22:42 |
schestowitz__ | or just a few people? | Mar 27 22:42 |
MinceR | as an "organization" | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | yuck | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | bye, cc | Mar 27 22:43 |
MinceR | so it depends on how they're controlled | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | yes | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | sometimes people sign for the org | Mar 27 22:43 |
MinceR | the CEO also signed on their own | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | and later it turns out many in the org dissent | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | they used to have ito as ceo | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | and... | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | he was facilitating the billgates payments at mit | Mar 27 22:43 |
MinceR | then they can reform their organization, with more caution about whom they trust | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | via epstein | Mar 27 22:43 |
schestowitz__ | Ito: http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ | Mar 27 22:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights | Mar 27 22:44 | |
CrystalMath | FreeDOS signed it, heh | Mar 27 22:44 |
CrystalMath | well they're about to get a competitor - me | Mar 27 22:44 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 27 22:45 |
CrystalMath | not because of this, though | Mar 27 22:45 |
schestowitz__ | freebsd don't support fsf | Mar 27 22:45 |
CrystalMath | CM-DOS is an old-ish idea | Mar 27 22:45 |
schestowitz__ | shock horror | Mar 27 22:45 |
MinceR | FreeBSD are a bunch of crybullies | Mar 27 22:45 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, it's behind us now | Mar 27 22:45 |
MinceR | they had a CoC before Linux did | Mar 27 22:45 |
schestowitz__ | donate to FSF if you can | Mar 27 22:45 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, we have some good articles coming soon | Mar 27 22:45 |
MinceR | it's sad to see that even the Tor Project and x.org are crybullies | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | I am checking some drafts of people, too | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | some people will break their silence shortly | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: expected from Tor | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | X were never THAT keen on FS | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | Free software | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | BUT: http://techrights.org/2020/09/18/keith-packard-on-rms/ | Mar 27 22:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Keith Packard: Richard Stallman Was Right (About the GPL) | Techrights | Mar 27 22:46 | |
schestowitz__ | they know rms was right | Mar 27 22:46 |
schestowitz__ | didn't like his 'style' | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | some people say they cannot speak to him | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | but I even managed to change his mind countless times before | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | on ubuntu spyware, physical switch for microphones on laptops | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | he also got my briefs on lf and osi | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | I think he's rightly selective who he trusts | Mar 27 22:47 |
schestowitz__ | based on perceived motivations | Mar 27 22:48 |
schestowitz__ | lots of backstabbers over the years | Mar 27 22:48 |
schestowitz__ | inc., at times, at FSF | Mar 27 22:48 |
schestowitz__ | people like jgay | Mar 27 22:48 |
MinceR | (audio) https://i.imgur.com/Abh7Cz6.mp4 | Mar 27 23:01 |
schestowitz__ | Oliva has an article coming | Mar 27 23:03 |
schestowitz__ | https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/ | Mar 27 23:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: Blonging for Freedom | Mar 27 23:03 | |
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schestowitz__ | we might be the subject of more trolling/abuse in days to come | Mar 27 23:11 |
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schestowitz__ | just a headsup | Mar 27 23:12 |
schestowitz__ | because the mobsters did not get their way | Mar 27 23:12 |
schestowitz__ | RMS stays | Mar 27 23:12 |
simpleman | Does you think about Italo Vignoli? Is he controlled by corporations or is he honest? | Mar 27 23:12 |
MinceR | :) | Mar 27 23:12 |
schestowitz__ | long night ahead... looong | Mar 27 23:13 |
schestowitz__ | simpleman: OSI | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | I mentioned it before | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | in text and in audioc | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | *audio form | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | Italo = OSI Board | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | And then you need to look into what controls OSI | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | nobody else in TDF or LO expressed concerns about RMS | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | that I saw | Mar 27 23:14 |
schestowitz__ | Meeks sort of changed his mind | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | he supported RMS in 2019 | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | now, due to social pressure, without the facts having changed at all, he doesn't say the samwe | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | as for SUSE, it's just their clueless CEO | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | a salseperson from SAP | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | in KDE nobody spoke aboyt it | Mar 27 23:15 |
MinceR | SUSE's been an enemy of free software for ages | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | their Board issued a polite statement | Mar 27 23:15 |
schestowitz__ | LOook at who DOES NOT oppose RMS | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | rather than who does | Mar 27 23:16 |
MinceR | look at who supports RMS :> | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | employers warn staff not to publicly support rms/fsf | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | as they fear the online mob | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: not all of them | Mar 27 23:16 |
MinceR | time to quit, i guess | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | Novell maybe | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | some SUSE people come here to IRC | Mar 27 23:16 |
schestowitz__ | and read the site Techrights, support GNU etc. | Mar 27 23:16 |
MinceR | SUSE still serves the microsoft agenda | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | SUSE cannot run without some free software devs | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | but SUSE's rot is at the higher tier | Mar 27 23:17 |
MinceR | and they signed this anti-RMS letter as well | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: the sales people | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | as a company? | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | and if so, who did that? | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | likely some managers | Mar 27 23:17 |
MinceR | yes, as an organization | Mar 27 23:17 |
schestowitz__ | and the engineers who dissent will stay quiet | Mar 27 23:17 |
MinceR | some non-managers among the personal signatories | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | SUSE made no statement | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | maybe they just added a sig | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | maybe even due to pressure | Mar 27 23:18 |
MinceR | it's a bit of a stretch to call systemd distribution maintainers "engineers" :> | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | that's what the mob did | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | and does | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | it pressures org | Mar 27 23:18 |
schestowitz__ | either you're "AGAINST WOMEN!!" or "SIGN THIS THING" | Mar 27 23:18 |
MinceR | "there should be no difference between Linux distributions and ibm/rh should call all the shots, but at the same time, we insist on making another Linux distribution" | Mar 27 23:19 |
gullfaxi[m] | 15 years ago I would have never imagined rms and fsf falling victims of this kind of fabricated witch hunt | Mar 27 23:19 |
schestowitz__ | https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/SUSEEFFStallman:6 | Mar 27 23:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | SUSE, EFF Attack Stallman | Mar 27 23:19 | |
schestowitz__ | [12:18] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- odysee.com | SUSE, EFF Attack Stallman | Mar 27 23:19 |
gullfaxi[m] | those pesky social networks | Mar 27 23:19 |
schestowitz__ | he worked for SUSE for 4 years | Mar 27 23:19 |
schestowitz__ | they don't even use gnu/linux | Mar 27 23:19 |
schestowitz__ | the people who run the firm | Mar 27 23:19 |
MinceR | 15 years ago microsoft didn't know how to fight free software, rh and ibm possibly didn't even want to | Mar 27 23:19 |
schestowitz__ | gullfaxi[m]: we have some rebuttals coming | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | we = not just techrights | Mar 27 23:20 |
MinceR | actually my timeline might be off, i'll check | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | the dust has mostly settled | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | I saw just one or two blog posts from the RMS antagonists today | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | brb | Mar 27 23:20 |
MinceR | cancerd was not default in any distribution 15 years ago | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | need to catch up with patent news | Mar 27 23:20 |
schestowitz__ | I am proofreading some other people's essays | Mar 27 23:21 |
MinceR | and ibm wasn't a card-carrying apple shill corporation 15 years ago | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | re RMS | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: Palmisano | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | I keep saying | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | IBM helped us wit ODF | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | around 2006 | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | they fought back against SCO | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | but different management back then | Mar 27 23:21 |
MinceR | :) | Mar 27 23:21 |
schestowitz__ | Jim AllowHurst isn't even using linux | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | and he's IBM Pres. now | Mar 27 23:22 |
MinceR | why would a clueless suit use linux? | Mar 27 23:22 |
MinceR | hell, why would anyone at rh/ibm or gnome or proprietarydesktop use linux? | Mar 27 23:22 |
MinceR | they idolize windows and macos | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | delta airline exec | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | a company in collapse | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | even back then | Mar 27 23:22 |
MinceR | they're not engineers | Mar 27 23:22 |
MinceR | they're not IT professionals | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | he 'dabbled' in fedora | Mar 27 23:22 |
schestowitz__ | maybe just to get that red hat job | Mar 27 23:23 |
schestowitz__ | and to appease the rht 'engineers | Mar 27 23:23 |
schestowitz__ | like LP | Mar 27 23:23 |
MinceR | they're just a bunch of idiots hammering out shitty code controlled by a bunch of sociopaths helping other sociopaths destroy the IT industry and usher in a new dark age for us all | Mar 27 23:23 |
MinceR | they make me sick | Mar 27 23:23 |
gullfaxi[m] | probably young people grown up in social networks | Mar 27 23:24 |
schestowitz__ | it's a mass control weapon | Mar 27 23:25 |
schestowitz__ | centralisation of minds | Mar 27 23:25 |
schestowitz__ | and manipulation of what people see | Mar 27 23:25 |
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schestowitz__ | and from which ontext | Mar 27 23:25 |
schestowitz__ | [21:13] <ephemer0l> https://www.dw.com/en/venezuela-facebook-freezes-maduros-page-over-covid-misinformation/a-57026967 | Mar 27 23:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Venezuela: Facebook freezes Maduro′s page over COVID misinformation | News | DW | 27.03.2021 | Mar 27 23:25 | |
schestowitz__ | [21:13] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Venezuela: Facebook freezes Maduro′s page over COVID misinformation | News | DW | 27.03.2021 | Mar 27 23:25 |
schestowitz__ | just say anything about COVID... | Mar 27 23:25 |
schestowitz__ | and it it doesn't agree 100% with some narrative, you are a lunatic and we must silence you | Mar 27 23:26 |
schestowitz__ | "to protect the public" | Mar 27 23:26 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Mar 27 23:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Mar 27 23:26 | |
gullfaxi[m] | our own politicians spreading shit about covid to create consensus don't get the same treatment | Mar 27 23:26 |
schestowitz__ | but that's an aside... | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | we'll do an article about it Sunday | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | I've been following the news on techrights about the cancelling of RMS since day zero, and there's a detail in the whole story I don't recall reading it there (or anywhere else for the matter). | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | The chronology is fuzzy, but the thing its there. You see, almost at exactly the same time Gates began the onslaught against RMS, suddenly and out of nowhere, if you happen to speak against Bill Gates you're a lunatic. | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | I mean this: at the same time the campaign against RMS started, Bill Gates also started to be the focus of conspiranoia. Comments everywhere about Bill Gates and 5G antenae that breaks your DNA, vaccines with nanochips, Qanon level stuff about deep state and NWO, and stuff like that. And paid media talking about that: lots of news about "Bill Gates thinks this and that about vaccines and global warming", and "look at all the idiotic | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | things crazy people say online about Bill Gates". It's even the case here in Argentina media. | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | So, I believe this attack had THREE fronts. Bashing RMS is one of them: you've been reporting a lot about that. Posing Gates as a goody philanthropist with deep ideas is a second one. You've also said a fair share about that, and is basically every rich person's PR campaign. But there's a third one: trying to let critics as some kind of mentally ill people with serious problems to gasp reality. And that last aspect is barely | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | mentioned in your reports. | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | I tell you this because I'm convinced the timeline of that third aspect matches the one of the Epstein-Gates reveals. The Gates conspiranoia was very sudden and unexpected: Bill Gates was no longer a thing in media since many years ago, and then all of that noise was everywhere in matter of days. Perhaps there's something searchable about that trend, some links to be made? Who knows... maybe that leads to something useful. | Mar 27 23:27 |
schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 23:27 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21031628 | Mar 27 23:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5324475) | Mar 27 23:28 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Kawaii, ña | Mar 27 23:29 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 27 23:29 |
schestowitz__ | > Roy: | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > Want morale? Think of it like this: they don't attack people so | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > viciously unless they're losing. It's when you make no difference | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > anymore that they just stop caring... | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > You can't kill a concept. You can, however, 'kill' people. Sometimes | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > even literally.... | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > I try to boost RMS' mood whenever I can. I don't know if you picked up | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > on the joke in my letter to the FSF. I dared not make it too obvious.:-) | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > I know about the "killing" only too well. | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > The FSF needs to raise funds now, but in the longer term they'll need a | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > more robust revenue model. Thanks for your continued support of what are | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > literally "Tech Rights"! We'll talk later. I just thanked the guys at | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | > codeberg.org <http://codeberg.org> too. | Mar 27 23:31 |
schestowitz__ | They have allowed people to sign the petition without touching GitHub. | Mar 27 23:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Codeberg.org | Mar 27 23:31 | |
schestowitz__ | >>> Even with Zoom, there is still a break in the middle of the meeting for | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | >>> people to visit the bar | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | >> I never used Zoom before. | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > There is WebRTC support, it works in Firefox on x86 without any extra | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > downloads | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | >> In think the anti-RMS mob has lost all momentum by now. | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > There is a lot of interesting data to be analyzed there | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > Some of the questions that come to mind: | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > - how many of those signatories ever met RMS? | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > - how many are Outreachy/GSOC interns, junior staff, contract staff in | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > developing countries who have been ordered or misled to sign for the | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > principles rather than thinking about the person? | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > - how many people would regret signing if, hypothetically, the victim of | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > such a petition committed suicide? | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | > - how often does the victim of such extreme bullying commit suicide? | Mar 27 23:34 |
schestowitz__ | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1616832139677#c4263560736381605404 | Mar 27 23:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat | Mar 27 23:48 | |
schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 23:48 |
schestowitz__ | What does the right to be heard means at the EPO, when the chair of the boards puts himself as chair of the EBA whilst he promoted Art 15aRPBA2020. | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | What is problematic is that by behaving as the do, the members of the EBA, with three potential exceptions, are actually supporting the destructive action of the EPA. | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | In Art 15aRPBA2020, the problem is less the fact that OP as ViCo are imposed upon parties, that the possibility of scattering members of deciding bodies of the EPO across contracting states or even outside. | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | This is not the EPC as it has been set up, and neither the president nor the BOAC and the AC of the EPO have the legitimacy to change the EPC as is foreseen in the New Normal. | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | WTF??! | Mar 27 23:49 |
schestowitz__ | so much corruption out there | Mar 27 23:50 |
schestowitz__ | which is a higher priority to tackle? | Mar 27 23:50 |
gullfaxi[m] | well, it's the same all the world over | Mar 27 23:51 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: ping | Mar 27 23:52 |
schestowitz__ | can you request those court docs on Gates' engineer? | Mar 27 23:52 |
schestowitz__ | We could really shift the debate back into focus and the real scandals | Mar 27 23:52 |
schestowitz__ | esp. now, DaemonFC[m] | Mar 27 23:53 |
schestowitz__ | RMS is being used as a bit of a "decoy" now | Mar 27 23:53 |
schestowitz__ | projection tactics | Mar 27 23:53 |
gullfaxi[m] | uhm, a decoy luring what? sjws to destroy free software ideology from inside? | Mar 27 23:54 |
schestowitz__ | no | Mar 27 23:55 |
schestowitz__ | let me explain | Mar 27 23:55 |
schestowitz__ | or rather, read this: | Mar 27 23:55 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Mar 27 23:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Mar 27 23:55 | |
schestowitz__ | the request was made in light of MIT revelations | Mar 27 23:56 |
gullfaxi[m] | oh, didn't read that | Mar 27 23:56 |
schestowitz__ | such as http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ | Mar 27 23:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights | Mar 27 23:56 | |
gullfaxi[m] | so is it somehow an "attention shift"? | Mar 27 23:56 |
MinceR | a distraction | Mar 27 23:58 |
schestowitz__ | decoy whatever | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | the words don't matter | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | but the underlying PR modality | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | I was told that ages ago | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | with prominent examples | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | not hypothetical one | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | or ones | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | Trump did this a lot | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | look at the book from John Bolton | Mar 27 23:59 |
schestowitz__ | Ivanka had a major scandal | Mar 27 23:59 |
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