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matey | in terms of survival, capitalism WILL destroy free software, if we let it | Apr 03 00:00 |
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matey | they cannot be friends | Apr 03 00:00 |
matey | it doesnt matter how many jews are "nice" to hitler, hes still bent on exterminating them. | Apr 03 00:00 |
matey | capitalism doesnt like fair competition. | Apr 03 00:01 |
matey | free software is TOO FAIR for them. | Apr 03 00:01 |
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matey | what people dont realise is, that capitalism predictably devolves into monopoly and attempts to control society by any means necessary | Apr 03 00:01 |
matey | free software is incompatible with THAT. but not capitalism "per se" | Apr 03 00:01 |
matey | but that is what capitalism will continue to do, just like there was never going to be a point where hitler said | Apr 03 00:02 |
matey | "you know what? im tired of taking over europe. i think ill just find a nice jewish woman to settle down with and stop all this megalomania." | Apr 03 00:02 |
matey | its never going to happen! | Apr 03 00:02 |
matey | also, fuck mike godwin. hes a spineless nazi shit. | Apr 03 00:03 |
matey | though MOSTLY thats tongue in cheek. | Apr 03 00:03 |
psydruid | the services revenue model never seems to have taken off either except for very few companies such as Red Hat | Apr 03 00:05 |
psydruid | if people can download and use free software for free (gratis), they aren't going to pay for it for the most part | Apr 03 00:06 |
matey | capitalism pushes this imaginary image of capitalism, where if a bunch of people get together and try to figure out how to be more independent | Apr 03 00:06 |
matey | capitalism itself will not send people to try to destroy that | Apr 03 00:07 |
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matey | but thats what capitalism does with such things. every. single. time. | Apr 03 00:07 |
matey | co-opt it and/or destroy it. as if turning something into a cynical piece-of-shit meaningless version of itself is really different from "destruction" | Apr 03 00:07 |
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psydruid | the status quo must be protected because too much is at stake | Apr 03 00:08 |
matey | it turns handcrafts into sweatshops, and high-tech industries into more sweatshops | Apr 03 00:08 |
matey | it really turns every fucking thing into sweatshops-- like amazon and its warehouses | Apr 03 00:08 |
matey | if capitalism was called sweatshopism, people might not like it as much | Apr 03 00:08 |
matey | of course if capitalism was called sweatshopism, it would be a more accurate name | Apr 03 00:09 |
matey | not everything capitalist is sweatshop-related of course | Apr 03 00:09 |
psydruid | sweatshops built on free software, that's freedom | Apr 03 00:09 |
matey | i mean, it takes a long time for EVERYTHING to be turned into sweatshop labour | Apr 03 00:09 |
matey | of every store i go to, right? | Apr 03 00:09 |
matey | the biggest most corporate one is the one that has trouble making change. | Apr 03 00:10 |
matey | EVERY OTHER PLACE i go to can make change, and keep their major appliances working | Apr 03 00:10 |
matey | why? because when something breaks they have to fix it | Apr 03 00:10 |
matey | and when they run out of cash, they send one of their paid staff to the bank to get more. | Apr 03 00:10 |
matey | but the biggest most corporate place i go (which i avoid, except when i cant) cant make change | Apr 03 00:11 |
matey | theyre too cheap to fix things or send someone to the bank | Apr 03 00:11 |
matey | theyre always understaffed, so they have no one they can send | Apr 03 00:11 |
matey | theyd have to close the place. | Apr 03 00:11 |
matey | they need more employees just to carry out the basic functions of the business | Apr 03 00:12 |
matey | but they prefer to have an insufficient number of people doing their job plus several others | Apr 03 00:12 |
matey | and then they berate customers over not doing the job of the business | Apr 03 00:12 |
matey | like its the customers job to play banker, not the buinesses job to send someone to the bank | Apr 03 00:12 |
matey | we need ones! fuck you, send someone to the bank. do i look like wells fargo to you? | Apr 03 00:13 |
matey | when i need something, what do they do? NOTHING | Apr 03 00:13 |
matey | theyre too cheap | Apr 03 00:13 |
matey | why so cheap? undercutting places that give a shit | Apr 03 00:14 |
psydruid | free software was on the path towards enabling people to exercise their freedoms, but then it had to be destroyed because too much freedom is not good for those same people | Apr 03 00:14 |
bnchs | the biggest joke in microsoft vs code | Apr 03 00:14 |
bnchs | they have an extension for vim keybinds | Apr 03 00:15 |
matey | microsoft vim | Apr 03 00:15 |
matey | /me has vi, but not vim (i recommend jed) | Apr 03 00:15 |
matey | jeds not going to cut it for serious vim/emacs users obviously | Apr 03 00:16 |
matey | but i like it better than vi | Apr 03 00:16 |
psydruid | at this point I'm even questioning the validity of the IT/software industry | Apr 03 00:16 |
matey | you should always question industry | Apr 03 00:16 |
matey | the more industrial medicine gets, the more they overwork doctors and nurses and the number of accidents increase | Apr 03 00:17 |
matey | did they take off the wrong leg? probably industry. | Apr 03 00:17 |
matey | the more industrial music gets, the more they suck the dynamic range out of music, take singers like britney spears and | Apr 03 00:17 |
matey | its not like she cant sing. its just that shes more marketable the way she is. | Apr 03 00:17 |
matey | blame industry. | Apr 03 00:17 |
psydruid | if all the jobs that need to be done could be done with a fraction of the developers currently out there, how are the other not so lucky ones going to make a living? | Apr 03 00:17 |
bnchs | yes its one thing i like | Apr 03 00:18 |
matey | industry turns the amazon into wildfires, and it turns vast lands full of tribes into reservations full of alcoholics | Apr 03 00:18 |
bnchs | glorified microsoft vim in a electron app | Apr 03 00:18 |
bnchs | takes up 500% more RAM than the real vim | Apr 03 00:18 |
matey | if all the jobs that need to be done could be done with a fraction of the developers currently out there, how are the other not so lucky ones going to make a living? <- and if capitalism prefers inefficiency and unreliability to a realistic idea of how many people we need on a certain task | Apr 03 00:19 |
matey | how is the entire concept not a fucking farce? | Apr 03 00:19 |
psydruid | that's what I mean | Apr 03 00:19 |
matey | the software industry makes money from revinting the wheel over nad over and over again | Apr 03 00:19 |
matey | but its not enough to reinvent the wheel and LIE and say its new | Apr 03 00:20 |
matey | oh no | Apr 03 00:20 |
matey | you also have to DESTROY all the other fucking wheels with lies and skullduggery | Apr 03 00:20 |
matey | because competition is (by definition) BAD for monopoly | Apr 03 00:20 |
matey | and monopoly is what capitalism REALLY wants | Apr 03 00:20 |
psydruid | and do we pretend to live in this world of make believe or would we rather live in reality | Apr 03 00:20 |
matey | and do we pretend to live in this world of make believe or would we rather live in reality <- theres no easy answer to that question | Apr 03 00:21 |
matey | the not-so-easy answer is that we live in a cult until we cant anymore | Apr 03 00:21 |
matey | and then things get interesting. | Apr 03 00:21 |
matey | but the biding-time-in-a-cult timeframe can last decades | Apr 03 00:21 |
matey | 105 years ago russia overthrew feudalism | Apr 03 00:22 |
psydruid | I'm thinking of doing something not in IT or software at all | Apr 03 00:22 |
matey | <psydruid> I'm thinking of doing something not in IT or software at all <- then what? | Apr 03 00:22 |
psydruid | because what is the whole purpose of it | Apr 03 00:22 |
psydruid | I have many skills | Apr 03 00:22 |
matey | i mean i can answer that at least | Apr 03 00:22 |
activelow | i'll consider jed editor; seems practical | Apr 03 00:22 |
matey | i think jed is too "bloated" for you | Apr 03 00:23 |
matey | but id be happy if you were promoting it as something useful to you | Apr 03 00:23 |
matey | do check it out | Apr 03 00:23 |
activelow | why would jed be bloated? | Apr 03 00:24 |
matey | <psydruid> because what is the whole purpose of it <- i dont think information technology stops being useful when you (hypothetically) get rid of industry and capitalism | Apr 03 00:24 |
matey | if anything, tech needs people who arent married to the industry, more than ever before | Apr 03 00:24 |
psydruid | I would just limit software developments to things that benefit me and people within my circle | Apr 03 00:25 |
matey | thats what free software was | Apr 03 00:25 |
psydruid | I mean, look at MinceR with all of his knowledge and skills | Apr 03 00:25 |
matey | but it didnt see the fatal compromises it was making | Apr 03 00:25 |
matey | <psydruid> I mean, look at MinceR with all of his knowledge and skills <- i know very little about his skills, but he says some things that point to being skilled | Apr 03 00:26 |
psydruid | and they chew and spit someone like him out | Apr 03 00:26 |
matey | im not so much a sceptic as unfamiliar | Apr 03 00:26 |
matey | <psydruid> and they chew and spit someone like him out <- industry has no use for independent thinkers | Apr 03 00:26 |
matey | actually thats half true | Apr 03 00:26 |
matey | step 1 exploit them | Apr 03 00:26 |
matey | step 2 keep them in line | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | if step 2 fails, step 3 is destroy them | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | sept 19 2019 | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | or was it 16th? | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | i think it was sept 16th | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | some say 11 | Apr 03 00:27 |
matey | either way "free software 9/11" fits imo | Apr 03 00:28 |
matey | the movement does less now to protect itself | Apr 03 00:28 |
psydruid | sometime around an anniversary at least | Apr 03 00:28 |
matey | rms probably doesnt realise that sept 16th is his half-birthday | Apr 03 00:29 |
matey | he turns n.5 on that day | Apr 03 00:29 |
matey | but no one keeps track of half-birthdays, because its silly to do so | Apr 03 00:29 |
matey | even birthdays themselves are a little bit silly | Apr 03 00:30 |
matey | happy birthday gnu, heres stephen fry (love him really) with a mac (what?) | Apr 03 00:31 |
matey | they swear the mac was running gnu | Apr 03 00:32 |
bnchs | gnu | Apr 03 00:32 |
matey | im sceptical. | Apr 03 00:32 |
psydruid | gnu/microsoft | Apr 03 00:32 |
matey | hai na | Apr 03 00:32 |
bnchs | well macs can run gnu/linux | Apr 03 00:32 |
psydruid | gnu/apple | Apr 03 00:32 |
matey | even with non-free drivers, getting a mac to work with gnu/linux tends to be painful | Apr 03 00:32 |
matey | with gnewsense though? or trisquel? | Apr 03 00:33 |
psydruid | they end up working eventually | Apr 03 00:33 |
matey | thats good | Apr 03 00:33 |
psydruid | and then they stop working again as developers abandon them | Apr 03 00:33 |
matey | yeah | Apr 03 00:33 |
psydruid | for new shiny macs | Apr 03 00:33 |
matey | they must have found the goldilocks version of gnewsense or whatever for the macbook fry was using | Apr 03 00:34 |
matey | though id just as soon believe they lied to cover up the fact that... | Apr 03 00:34 |
matey | i mean i dont KNOW that, but thats just it | Apr 03 00:34 |
matey | how would we know | Apr 03 00:34 |
matey | they didnt document it except after the fact when people were like "wait..." | Apr 03 00:35 |
matey | but the thing is-- if i show that video to anyone | Apr 03 00:35 |
matey | the first thing theyre going to ask me is if gnu will run on a mac | Apr 03 00:35 |
matey | "well..." | Apr 03 00:35 |
matey | "theres always a chance" | Apr 03 00:35 |
matey | ever since then gnu has become more about marketing, a bit less about really fighting | Apr 03 00:36 |
matey | and the mandatory happiness | Apr 03 00:37 |
matey | id love to hear some gnu developers bitch and moan about how much theyve tried to be more free, only to have the industry fuck them over | Apr 03 00:37 |
matey | but that might "alienate" someone | Apr 03 00:37 |
psydruid | more like a "bitchfight" | Apr 03 00:37 |
matey | if the truth alienates people, the people alienated by truth can fuck themselves. | Apr 03 00:37 |
matey | its not like we are shit-talking microsoft just to be dicks | Apr 03 00:38 |
matey | theyve spent the past 20-40 years fucking over everything that moves | Apr 03 00:38 |
matey | its a legitimate gripe-- get used to it! | Apr 03 00:38 |
matey | the struggle for freedom isnt the hold-hands-and-sing drumming circle for freedom | Apr 03 00:39 |
bnchs | matey: you know what else fucked everything that moves? | Apr 03 00:39 |
matey | if you want the unitarian universalists, theyre dotted all over the place if thats your idea of progress | Apr 03 00:39 |
psydruid | why do governments and companies go along with the narrative that their interests are aligned with Microsoft's? | Apr 03 00:39 |
matey | <bnchs> matey: you know what else fucked everything that moves? <- bill gates and jeff epstein? | Apr 03 00:40 |
bnchs | correct! | Apr 03 00:40 |
matey | probably not just a coincidence | Apr 03 00:40 |
matey | <psydruid> why do governments and companies go along with the narrative that their interests are aligned with Microsoft's? <- because at the end of the day, all they give a shit about is monopoly and control | Apr 03 00:40 |
matey | and theyre all in that fight (against each other) together. | Apr 03 00:40 |
matey | because if theres one group of people theyre more against than each other... | Apr 03 00:41 |
matey | its the rest of us. | Apr 03 00:41 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft is like General Motors only instead of a bankruptcy, there's just a perpetual bailout. | Apr 03 00:41 |
matey | in other words, microsoft and google may be out to destroy each other | Apr 03 00:41 |
DaemonFC | If General Motors was left on its own, it would have gone under because people wanted good products and had access to them, and were buying them, and that's why GM failed. | Apr 03 00:41 |
matey | but other than THAT they have common goals. | Apr 03 00:41 |
DaemonFC | But uh oh, here comes the government. | Apr 03 00:42 |
matey | most people and microsoft only have common goals if microsoft lies to them constantly | Apr 03 00:42 |
DaemonFC | Lets GM screw their workers, their creditors, everyone. | Apr 03 00:42 |
matey | in other words, they only THINK they have common goals, but theyre mistaken | Apr 03 00:42 |
matey | thats co-opting and exploitation | Apr 03 00:42 |
DaemonFC | Puts a bunch of taxpayer money from people who chose not to buy GM cars into the company. | Apr 03 00:42 |
matey | its deliberate | Apr 03 00:42 |
DaemonFC | Then left them with the same corrupt idiots that they had all along, so that it could go under again someday. | Apr 03 00:42 |
matey | so google and microsoft are mortal enemies, for a common cause | Apr 03 00:43 |
matey | us peons dont even share the cause. | Apr 03 00:43 |
DaemonFC | GM keeps working, lobbying, against having to make products people want to buy. | Apr 03 00:43 |
DaemonFC | Because they know they'll get bailed out again. | Apr 03 00:43 |
matey | so google and microsoft will happily join hands against us. they can kill each other later. | Apr 03 00:43 |
matey | granted its never that simple | Apr 03 00:43 |
matey | they also try to destroy each other every single day | Apr 03 00:43 |
matey | while holding hands. | Apr 03 00:44 |
DaemonFC | Microoft is a little different. They've been making it aggravating to leave them and things like "Secure Boot" certainly help with that. | Apr 03 00:44 |
matey | and conspiring against a better world | Apr 03 00:44 |
psydruid | why are so few people willing to get out there to destroy Google and Microsoft? | Apr 03 00:44 |
DaemonFC | Because it's like a 20 step process that's impossible to document to get Windows off of a computer now. | Apr 03 00:44 |
matey | why are so few people willing to get out there to destroy Google and Microsoft? <- they know its hopeless | Apr 03 00:44 |
matey | and theyre half-right. | Apr 03 00:44 |
DaemonFC | Lenovo released a guide on how to install Debian and it was a PDF with dozens of pages of step-by-step instructions. | Apr 03 00:44 |
DaemonFC | Half of it was firmware-related. :/ | Apr 03 00:44 |
matey | i know what i know from my own experience-- as a kid i was like OOH, TECH-- BETTER FUTURE! YAY HUMANITY | Apr 03 00:45 |
matey | i shit you not | Apr 03 00:45 |
psydruid | you can find interesting articles if you look for "put $ENTITY out of business" | Apr 03 00:45 |
matey | i went through a technoutopian phase | Apr 03 00:45 |
matey | as a child. | Apr 03 00:45 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft wants all of this stuff that causes compatibility problems and bugs on by default precisely because it adds a hill to climb. | Apr 03 00:45 |
matey | i mean we had pieces of space stations and spyplanes | Apr 03 00:45 |
matey | and with them, stories of triumph of good over evil, and INNOVA~1 over all odds | Apr 03 00:46 |
matey | what CANT technology do? its the only way to escape the solar system when it blows | Apr 03 00:46 |
matey | but i got tired of shitty wars and (rightfully, but naively) blamed republicans | Apr 03 00:47 |
matey | i got this idea that being liberal was the answer | Apr 03 00:47 |
matey | and its very fake, but i thought otherwise | Apr 03 00:47 |
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matey | as it got more openly fake i became sceptical, but the republicans were still losers, i had no interest in them | Apr 03 00:48 |
matey | two things got me into libertarianism | Apr 03 00:48 |
matey | 1. i moved where there were LOTS of libertarians | Apr 03 00:48 |
matey | 2. mostly free software showed me a world (so i thought) where progressive ideas could work without government :) | Apr 03 00:49 |
matey | to me, free software proved that libertarianism wasnt political masturbation | Apr 03 00:49 |
matey | and then it fell over and died, so so much for that | Apr 03 00:49 |
matey | oh, and libertarianism is doing JUST GREAT giving zero fucks about the events of the past few years | Apr 03 00:50 |
matey | good job. | Apr 03 00:50 |
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matey | if i wanted a straw man (an unfair caricature) of libertarianism on that issue, we have crystal for that | Apr 03 00:50 |
matey | but the shoe fits | Apr 03 00:51 |
matey | the only that convinced me (as an adult at least) that maybe something LIKE capitalism could work was free software not getting destroyed by capitalism | Apr 03 00:51 |
matey | and then capitalism destroyed both free software and then its founder in a 2-year span | Apr 03 00:52 |
matey | and the libertarians made a nice stink about it | Apr 03 00:52 |
activelow | "free software" is a politically motivated misnomer | Apr 03 00:52 |
matey | and then proceeded to do PRETTY MUCH fuck-all | Apr 03 00:52 |
activelow | psydruid proposed "free computing" instead, to cover freedom of science, academic freedom, free software, and hardware (which cannot be separated from free software) | Apr 03 00:52 |
matey | <activelow> "free software" is a politically motivated misnomer <- id protest, if i thought your charge that free sw/free hs was actually a dichotomy was bunk | Apr 03 00:53 |
matey | psydruid proposed "free computing" instead <- hes smart like that | Apr 03 00:53 |
matey | free computing is the future | Apr 03 00:53 |
matey | without free computing, free software is fucked | Apr 03 00:53 |
matey | and the libertarians proceeded to do PRETTY MUCH fuck-all | Apr 03 00:54 |
matey | which imo (at this point) is a predictable pattern | Apr 03 00:54 |
matey | washing its hands of everything is what libertarianism does best | Apr 03 00:54 |
matey | it DOES, i suppose, pretend that this is for a good cause. its non-interventionist, they say | Apr 03 00:54 |
matey | but theyre happy to intervene whenever it aligns with their interests | Apr 03 00:55 |
matey | i consider it bunk | Apr 03 00:55 |
matey | all that was missing was a viable alternative | Apr 03 00:55 |
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matey | anti-capitalism is nice but it seemed both unnecessary and nearly impossible | Apr 03 00:55 |
matey | that was then, of course | Apr 03 00:55 |
matey | i was mostly neutral about anti-capitalism, and my neutrality invited its advocates | Apr 03 00:56 |
matey | we are convinced that free software and capitalism cannot, will never co-exist | Apr 03 00:56 |
matey | okay, well i would choose freedom over capitalism any day | Apr 03 00:56 |
matey | i only needed convincing that capitalism will never give us freedom | Apr 03 00:57 |
matey | im convinced | Apr 03 00:57 |
matey | either way, it killed free software (for now) and i wont forgive that | Apr 03 00:57 |
matey | not today, not ever | Apr 03 00:57 |
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matey | it killed one of my ten favourite things in the world | Apr 03 00:58 |
matey | the others wont be named here, though honestly, its not too hard to guess | Apr 03 00:58 |
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matey | the weirdest thing i love by far is free software | Apr 03 00:59 |
bnchs | the techdoom | Apr 03 00:59 |
matey | <bnchs> the techdoom <- straw man | Apr 03 00:59 |
matey | hypemen are destroying the fucking internet | Apr 03 00:59 |
bnchs | well i'm sorry | Apr 03 00:59 |
matey | the hype needs to fucking die | Apr 03 00:59 |
matey | <bnchs> well i'm sorry <- im not interested in their bullshit | Apr 03 01:00 |
matey | the more they pretend everything is fine, they more they sell free software to fucking aquaman | Apr 03 01:00 |
matey | aquaman can start his own fucking software empire imo | Apr 03 01:00 |
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matey | rms wasnt exactly mr. happy either | Apr 03 01:00 |
matey | when he saw bullshit, thats what he called it | Apr 03 01:00 |
matey | some people LIKE bullshit | Apr 03 01:01 |
matey | i dont. | Apr 03 01:01 |
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matey | its an insult | Apr 03 01:01 |
matey | im being blamed for "doom" when all im saying is "all this happy gumdrop marshmellow crap is going to give you intellectual fucking diabetes" | Apr 03 01:01 |
bnchs | well yeah | Apr 03 01:01 |
matey | you know what free software is now? | Apr 03 01:01 |
matey | ALL NATURAL. | Apr 03 01:01 |
matey | two words, used together, to mean absolutely FUCK ALL | Apr 03 01:02 |
bnchs | maybe it should be mixed with a little salt | Apr 03 01:02 |
matey | and all im saying is | Apr 03 01:02 |
matey | dying from cancer is ALL NATURAL | Apr 03 01:02 |
bnchs | maybe | Apr 03 01:02 |
matey | aids is all natural | Apr 03 01:02 |
bnchs | but i shouldnt get 200% salr | Apr 03 01:02 |
matey | but i shouldnt get 200% salr <- ? | Apr 03 01:02 |
activelow | free software? a facade, a misnomer. | Apr 03 01:02 |
bnchs | yes it shouldnt be 100% sweet | Apr 03 01:03 |
bnchs | nor 100% salt | Apr 03 01:03 |
bnchs | you can mix a little salt | Apr 03 01:03 |
matey | you may have missed it when psydroid talked about quitting computing altogether | Apr 03 01:03 |
matey | and i said no, that would be a terrible idea | Apr 03 01:03 |
bnchs | but maybe i dont want to have intellectual diabetes nor demovitation | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | " nor demovitation" motivation based on bullshit only leads people to self-defeat | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | if you want a pep talk, ill give you one based on things i think will actually help you | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | not based on blowing sunshine up your anus | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | its not fucking hopeless | Apr 03 01:04 |
bnchs | yeah i know | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | its just REALLY BAD | Apr 03 01:04 |
matey | most of my associates are more optimistic than i am | Apr 03 01:05 |
matey | but theres a reason for that | Apr 03 01:05 |
matey | and its not because theyre dumb. its because they know more about the things that give them hope | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | the more i learn about those things, the more optimistic i am | Apr 03 01:06 |
bnchs | i'm optimistic | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | but optimism for optimisms sake is ignorance | Apr 03 01:06 |
bnchs | because i do see a future in computing | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | i do too | Apr 03 01:06 |
bnchs | giving up would make it worse | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | i agree | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | and i told psydroid that in this very conversation | Apr 03 01:06 |
matey | but all the bullshitters out there, what they do is | Apr 03 01:07 |
matey | they say "join us! we can help you fight!" | Apr 03 01:07 |
bnchs | oh | Apr 03 01:07 |
matey | and you waste a year or two and realise they never cared about any of that | Apr 03 01:07 |
matey | they lied | Apr 03 01:07 |
activelow | given the compiler situation, i am having difficulties to envision any future for "free software" | Apr 03 01:07 |
matey | <activelow> given the compiler situation, i am having difficulties to envision any future for "free software" <- thats because the real future is in newer, simpler compilers | Apr 03 01:08 |
matey | it doesnt mean eradicating all the complex ones | Apr 03 01:08 |
activelow | exactly, however, "free software" cannot be compiled with those | Apr 03 01:08 |
matey | it means NOT building everything to RELY on those | Apr 03 01:08 |
matey | "free software" cannot be compiled with those <- as-is. | Apr 03 01:08 |
matey | true enough. but not hopeless | Apr 03 01:08 |
psydruid | I wouldn't completely give up on computing, but in the context of making a living developing software that means nothing to me | Apr 03 01:08 |
matey | but in the context of making a living developing software <- i mean i consider that an incredible waste of time, yes | Apr 03 01:09 |
activelow | gcc-4.7 is rather old already, no aarch64 support yet, at least sufficed to verify some base-system profile with, in preparation for tinycc | Apr 03 01:09 |
matey | but if someone has the time and makes the money | Apr 03 01:09 |
matey | and still understands whats at stake and gives a shit and acts on that... | Apr 03 01:09 |
psydruid | because look at all of those job ads, they're terrible | Apr 03 01:09 |
matey | well the industry is a mountain of shit, theres no question | Apr 03 01:09 |
matey | id rather arrange flowers for a living than write software for a company | Apr 03 01:09 |
matey | thanks to monsanto of course, id almost certainly be arranging flowers for microsoft-- I MEAN THIS IS GETTING FUCKING RIDICULOUS! | Apr 03 01:10 |
matey | and the flowers example wasnt a setup for that punchline-- it goes back to when i was in my 20s. | Apr 03 01:10 |
matey | dont look for a job with an ethical industry though | Apr 03 01:13 |
matey | there arent any ethical industries | Apr 03 01:13 |
matey | i dont blame you for avoiding the it industry though, it will eat your soul | Apr 03 01:14 |
matey | theres a strong argument to be made for avoiding the industry closest to what you love to do | Apr 03 01:14 |
psydruid | I already worked in that industry and it ate my soul | Apr 03 01:14 |
matey | so lesson learned | Apr 03 01:14 |
matey | work for an industry, if any, that isnt so close to what you really love | Apr 03 01:15 |
matey | its not like you have to do something you hate, or that you dont care about at all | Apr 03 01:15 |
psydruid | so I am not looking forward to being sucked back into something that has since turned into something even worse | Apr 03 01:15 |
matey | but at least try to keep your favourite thing away fro your job | Apr 03 01:15 |
matey | <psydruid> so I am not looking forward to being sucked back into something that has since turned into something even worse <- so it your way | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | so do it your way ^ | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | and fuck what the industry wants | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | after all, the industry loves a summer romance | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | the only thing microsoft is married to is windows, and thats going about as well as bill and melinda right now | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | the industry likes to stick and move | Apr 03 01:16 |
matey | it will give up on systemd-- after systemd has destroyed everything in its wake | Apr 03 01:17 |
matey | so wiating for systemd to be abandoned is a failing strategy that ignores its intended purpose | Apr 03 01:18 |
psydruid | I don't know anything about windows and I don't know how to write anything but generic software for it in C, C++, Java and Scala | Apr 03 01:18 |
matey | and thats just an example of a very typical pattern | Apr 03 01:18 |
matey | I don't know anything about windows <- windows is utterly useless | Apr 03 01:18 |
matey | i followed reactos for years and gave up | Apr 03 01:18 |
matey | ive got a screen cap of my favourite programming language running in reactos | Apr 03 01:18 |
matey | just getting python installed in ros was a fucking hoot | Apr 03 01:19 |
psydruid | ReactOS devs are hardcore Microsoft fans | Apr 03 01:19 |
matey | yep, their work is of no use to me | Apr 03 01:19 |
psydruid | that is their biggest problem | Apr 03 01:19 |
matey | except they sometimes help wine | Apr 03 01:19 |
matey | and ive used wine for a couple things | Apr 03 01:19 |
matey | probably never again. | Apr 03 01:19 |
matey | if you stop using the linux kernel, wine... does what exactly? | Apr 03 01:20 |
matey | but even when i used gnu/linux my use of wine was incredibly spare | Apr 03 01:20 |
psydruid | Linux developers at least made changes compared to Solaris and BSD where they deemed those adequate | Apr 03 01:20 |
matey | not always for the better | Apr 03 01:20 |
matey | but i wont pretend all of that was useless | Apr 03 01:20 |
matey | i even like the gnu version of cut better than the openbsd version | Apr 03 01:21 |
matey | but awk fulfils the same purpose without bothering to compile cut from gnu | Apr 03 01:21 |
matey | and i mean awk, not gnu awk | Apr 03 01:21 |
matey | the people point to the gnu coding standards being obsolete | Apr 03 01:22 |
matey | maybe its fud, it seems legit | Apr 03 01:22 |
activelow | long-term i'll not accept anything into the bapho base system which doesn't compile with TinyCC; let's see what remains | Apr 03 01:23 |
activelow | currently, i haven't got a kernel anymore, given this | Apr 03 01:23 |
activelow | situation | Apr 03 01:23 |
matey | currently, i haven't got a kernel anymore <- thats so gnu | Apr 03 01:23 |
matey | you should call it baphgnuos | Apr 03 01:24 |
activelow | tinycc isn't a gnu project, although it is gpl2 iirc | Apr 03 01:24 |
matey | tinycc isn't a gnu projec <- its listed in the fsd at least | Apr 03 01:24 |
activelow | i feel that desperate about it; i am considering to fully depart into 8/16bit realm with free hardware there | Apr 03 01:24 |
matey | i feel that desperate about it; i am considering to fully depart into 8/16bit realm with free hardware there <- if thats what it takes | Apr 03 01:25 |
activelow | and, i required almost a decade, to review this | Apr 03 01:25 |
matey | one of the people who talked at libreplanet this year has a 6502 internet project | Apr 03 01:25 |
matey | on hackaday | Apr 03 01:25 |
activelow | needless to say, without income generated | Apr 03 01:25 |
matey | needless to say, without income generated <- what do you live on, pension or savings? | Apr 03 01:26 |
activelow | yet, the entire 8/16bit realm is only interesting if, and only if, it is free hardware, and doesn't require proprietary tooling nearby | Apr 03 01:26 |
activelow | which is often the case, microchip vendors and tools require an IBM Wintel PC nearby, to program, flash, compile whatever | Apr 03 01:26 |
matey | yet, the entire 8/16bit realm is only interesting if, and only if, it is free hardware, and doesn't require proprietary tooling nearby <- fair | Apr 03 01:26 |
activelow | Altera? Xilinx? no thanks. | Apr 03 01:26 |
psydruid | I wouldn't go below 32-bit and ideally 64-bit | Apr 03 01:26 |
matey | i dont like 64 bit because it demands so much ram | Apr 03 01:27 |
psydruid | but doing free computing with those may be tricky or even impossible | Apr 03 01:27 |
matey | on a machine with "only" a few gigs, its such a waste | Apr 03 01:27 |
matey | or even impossible <- lrowe and i see hope there, maybe its real | Apr 03 01:28 |
psydruid | on ARM it's a completely different instruction set | Apr 03 01:28 |
matey | of course | Apr 03 01:28 |
psydruid | that is much saner than whatever came before | Apr 03 01:28 |
matey | i hear the nvidia deal floundered | Apr 03 01:29 |
matey | when i heard this, i linked to the crab rave | Apr 03 01:29 |
activelow | free computing didn't arrive at anything "better" than 8/16bit Z80/Gigatron/6502 yet | Apr 03 01:29 |
matey | it seemed the most appropriate response | Apr 03 01:29 |
activelow | and even then, as soon as a digital scope is nearby, those aren't free | Apr 03 01:30 |
activelow | meanwhile, analog scope manufacturing seems gone, inclduding traditional vendors such as Rohde&Schwarz or Hameg... they're all digital now | Apr 03 01:31 |
psydruid | I've read that the simplest RISC-V core requires only 20,000 gates | Apr 03 01:31 |
activelow | equipped with Xilinx, and gorious support from IBM Wintel | Apr 03 01:31 |
psydruid | which is still a lot more than what Sam Zeloof can work with | Apr 03 01:31 |
psydruid | but I think it should be doable in the not too distant future | Apr 03 01:32 |
matey | every time ive moved from one platform to another | Apr 03 01:33 |
activelow | that's another issue with "free software", the priorities, of what's important and what isn't | Apr 03 01:33 |
matey | the priorities, of what's important and what isn't <- no shit | Apr 03 01:33 |
matey | every time ive moved from one platform to another, ive prioritised one thing | Apr 03 01:34 |
matey | a toolset that is as portable from one platform to another as possible | Apr 03 01:34 |
psydruid | https://semiengineering.com/a-minimal-risc-v/ | Apr 03 01:34 |
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activelow | matey: pencil and paper | Apr 03 01:34 |
matey | by the time i moved to openbsd, i had practically nothing that wouldnt either run on bsd, or be trivial to adapt to it | Apr 03 01:35 |
matey | one notable exception is my distro project-- it mostly relies on things that are gnu/linux-only | Apr 03 01:35 |
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matey | but my distro project was based on the idea that gnu/linux could be salvaged | Apr 03 01:35 |
matey | i find little evidence for that | Apr 03 01:35 |
psydruid | a large part of that is not becoming dependent on anything that is specific to an operating system | Apr 03 01:36 |
matey | i also had no alternatives at the time | Apr 03 01:36 |
matey | a large part of that is not becoming dependent on anything that is specific to an operating system <- this is mostly a simpler way of saying what i was trying to say | Apr 03 01:36 |
matey | at least its most of what i was trying to say | Apr 03 01:36 |
matey | gnu is doing nothing to keep track of the war against it | Apr 03 01:37 |
matey | i find no evidence that the fsf is keeping track of the war against it | Apr 03 01:37 |
matey | gnu is busy installing screen doors on its submarines | Apr 03 01:37 |
psydruid | the fsf will exist until some day it doesn't | Apr 03 01:38 |
matey | i wonder how long it will take exactly | Apr 03 01:38 |
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matey | 10% of it will be around a whole lot longer than 90% of it | Apr 03 01:39 |
matey | sort of like npr | Apr 03 01:39 |
matey | ive been comparing the fsf to npr for years | Apr 03 01:39 |
activelow | npr? | Apr 03 01:39 |
matey | american national public radio | Apr 03 01:39 |
matey | similar idea as bbc radio but american | Apr 03 01:39 |
matey | sabotaged by nixon many decades ago | Apr 03 01:40 |
matey | and bush junior a couple decades ago | Apr 03 01:40 |
matey | and absolutely no bachman turner overdrive (though some might consider it a plus, listeners) | Apr 03 01:40 |
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matey | bnchs whats your favourite thing about tech (preferably software) | Apr 03 01:41 |
matey | im a hypocrite, probably my favourite thing at the moment is the idea of free silicon | Apr 03 01:42 |
matey | it cant be helped | Apr 03 01:42 |
psydruid | we had to wait for such a long time for open instruction sets to become available, although there was already openrisc | Apr 03 01:44 |
activelow | 68k, mips/32, sparc/64, z80, 6502, gigatron | Apr 03 01:45 |
activelow | 10mbit ethernet is available, usb1 | Apr 03 01:45 |
activelow | don't know, about hdmi and/or vga | Apr 03 01:46 |
activelow | almost forgot, j-core turtle board | Apr 03 01:46 |
matey | we had to wait for such a long time for open instruction sets to become available <- although i foresaw fpga, i honestly didnt think industry had it in it to allow such a thing to exist | Apr 03 01:46 |
matey | i was very excited to see a picture of one on the cover of scientific american | Apr 03 01:47 |
activelow | currently, there isn't at least some 100% free and opensource (both hardware and software) VT100 VGA/PS2 terminal | Apr 03 01:47 |
matey | it wasnt as exciting as the moon landing, which i wasnt around for of course, but something changed | Apr 03 01:47 |
matey | fpgas are a big deal imo. and free silicon brings that feeling with it | Apr 03 01:48 |
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activelow | some ICE40 from Olimex seemed decent, with 512KiB SRAM, however this wouldn't be fast enough for VGA 640x480 16 colors, to terminate VT100 with | Apr 03 01:49 |
matey | /me thinks olimex are cunts | Apr 03 01:49 |
psydruid | we should have a lot more vendors of fpgas | Apr 03 01:49 |
activelow | matey: why? | Apr 03 01:49 |
matey | i talked to one of them, he seemed like one | Apr 03 01:50 |
matey | i admit this isnt terribly scientific | Apr 03 01:50 |
matey | then again if i phrased it that way, i wouldnt expect anyone to mistake it for the results of a harvard study | Apr 03 01:50 |
matey | at any rate my point in saying so was only this | Apr 03 01:50 |
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matey | if olimex doesnt have the solution to your issue, meh, just keep looking | Apr 03 01:50 |
activelow | with gigatron ttl i am not entirely sure, about the software, and the ROM | Apr 03 01:51 |
activelow | in any case, with free computing, there won't be internet anymore | Apr 03 01:51 |
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psydruid | the only way to find out is to try | Apr 03 01:51 |
matey | with free computing, there won't be internet anymore <- if you see it as only removing things, okay | Apr 03 01:51 |
matey | i am focused on removing things from a list of what i consider truly free software | Apr 03 01:52 |
matey | but | Apr 03 01:52 |
matey | thats just the first step | Apr 03 01:52 |
matey | once we have enough idea whats free, we can build up again | Apr 03 01:52 |
matey | and of course, just because im busy measuring, im not telling anybody to wait until im ready | Apr 03 01:52 |
matey | if they want to go ahead and make something REALLY REALLY free right now, im not telling them not to | Apr 03 01:53 |
activelow | the idea, to limit compiler to TinyCC, is a first criteria, to see what remains (both hardware and software) | Apr 03 01:53 |
matey | its a good idea | Apr 03 01:53 |
activelow | i'll keep BaphometOS, with as little maintenance as possible, to navigate some books and things necessary; and rather focus on z80/gigatron stuff | Apr 03 01:54 |
activelow | 1) finish BaphometOS, to fully replace/drop GCC entirely, and compile everything beginning from u-boot loader, kernel, and the userspace with TinyCC | Apr 03 01:55 |
activelow | currently, i downgraded gcc to v4.7, and patched kernel to remove some c11 voodoo | Apr 03 01:55 |
matey | /me thinks a german fork of "u-boot" would be too fucking funny | Apr 03 01:56 |
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psydruid | I think it is German | Apr 03 01:56 |
matey | thats funny | Apr 03 01:56 |
matey | its only one letter different from u-boat | Apr 03 01:56 |
psydruid | it was originally ppcboot | Apr 03 01:56 |
matey | maybe it was deliberate then | Apr 03 01:57 |
psydruid | das u-boot | Apr 03 01:57 |
matey | deliberate then? | Apr 03 01:57 |
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matey | all this time it was pun intended and i didnt know? | Apr 03 01:57 |
psydruid | it looks like it | Apr 03 01:57 |
matey | ffs | Apr 03 01:57 |
activelow | 2) then depart to gitatron/z80/...; because i doubt it will be possible to keep at least BaphometOS alive (c-only/no-c++ uboot, kernel, userspace) | Apr 03 01:57 |
activelow | with u-boot, a nasty dependency sneaked into, to support their FDT firmware format: python swift -> c++ | Apr 03 01:57 |
matey | i think if enough people know about baphometos someone might keep it alive in spirit at least | Apr 03 01:58 |
activelow | so, an older version of u-boot is required maybe (not sure yet), and with it, even older aarch32 hardware, if at all | Apr 03 01:58 |
matey | be nice if someone did the same for openbsd | Apr 03 01:58 |
activelow | anyway, this won't be acceptable to BaphometOS: UEFI or any proprietary firmware for GPU/WiFi, proprietary BIOS | Apr 03 01:58 |
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matey | good | Apr 03 01:59 |
matey | what youve created is a really good tool for exposing industry doublespeak | Apr 03 01:59 |
psydruid | these cheap boards are much more powerful than what they're being given credit for | Apr 03 02:00 |
activelow | to bring back TinyCC, i'll need to implement some missing ASM processing for aarch32 (aarch64 asm isn't supported at all yet) | Apr 03 02:00 |
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psydruid | even the lowest-end chips are more powerful than Pentium III processors | Apr 03 02:01 |
activelow | maybe, it is possible to implement RISC-V, or SH2 for tinycc; however that has no priority; and before that, any known-good architecture needs to be verified, such as aarch32 to compile u-boot and kernel | Apr 03 02:01 |
psydruid | it's just that software became worse faster | Apr 03 02:02 |
activelow | soon, i'll know, if and how much of the baphomet userspace compiles with tinycc (aarch32), and how fast | Apr 03 02:02 |
activelow | at first glance, i had seen pass some autoconf/configure runs already, with tinycc in place, and this was alot faster already than gcc-4.7, although there was little to nothing to compile during configure phase | Apr 03 02:03 |
matey | <psydruid> it's just that software became worse faster <- because industry is a fucking fashion show | Apr 03 02:04 |
activelow | now imagine this, the bigger compile jobs, if an entire distro can be compiled in an hour or two, on a tiny cortex a53 quadcore, with 1GiB RAM | Apr 03 02:04 |
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activelow | which too is a huge leap, for free and opensource software, to actually work from source, always, and this being fast and efficient | Apr 03 02:05 |
activelow | and a cheapo RPI3 sufficed for this | Apr 03 02:05 |
activelow | which is another reason, why "free software" is a misnomer, because most "distros" are distributed as binary | Apr 03 02:07 |
activelow | with the argument, that's supposedly faster, instead of asking why source-based workflow was slow and cumbersome | Apr 03 02:08 |
activelow | btw. the first *nix i worked with wasn't GNU/Linux, it was OpenBSD i learned with, because OpenBSD actually did take care, developers can work efficiently from _source_ | Apr 03 02:11 |
activelow | however, i did realize, the complex dependency tracking necessary, wasn't possible anymore, hence gentoo portage | Apr 03 02:12 |
activelow | yet, this reasoning is relatively shallow, given the severity of issues involved, with the status of free software, free computing, and academic freedom | Apr 03 02:12 |
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matey | with the status of free software, free computing, and academic freedom <- indeed | Apr 03 02:14 |
techrights-news | This Kyle Wiens talk, “repair is not a crime”, is an excellent talk about how warranty-voiding stickers are basically illegal http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/fight-to-repair/ | Apr 03 02:16 |
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matey | by the way mincer schestowitz this is from 2019, regarding this code of conduct / code of ethics stuff | Apr 03 02:18 |
techrights-news | Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) Final Beta released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33268 | Apr 03 02:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 03 02:18 | |
matey | i havent looked at this since 2019, i just found it while going through some files | Apr 03 02:18 |
matey | > Have an organizational wide policy document that applies to all staff, directors, and representatives. It should explain the purpose of the org, how decisions are made, what its values are, etc. And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directors | Apr 03 02:18 |
matey | thats joshua gay | Apr 03 02:19 |
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matey | i was highly critical of what he was saying... but note this wording: | Apr 03 02:19 |
matey | " And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy" | Apr 03 02:19 |
matey | here its 2022 and the big agenda is adding a "code of (corporate, hypocritical, whataboutist) 'ethics'" to the existing code of conduct | Apr 03 02:20 |
matey | and joshua gay already had that on his wishlist in 2019 | Apr 03 02:20 |
schestowitz-TR | without CoC, how can corporations eject people? | Apr 03 02:21 |
schestowitz-TR | can we have a CoC for rejecting unwanted corporations? | Apr 03 02:21 |
matey | no because thats reversism | Apr 03 02:21 |
matey | which is the doctrine that you cant make any conduct or ethical policy that works both ways | Apr 03 02:21 |
schestowitz-TR | right, and companies are "people" | Apr 03 02:22 |
schestowitz-TR | and feel "hurt" | Apr 03 02:22 |
matey | that would defeat the entire goal of it being one-sided, hypocritical, opportunist and altogether bullshit | Apr 03 02:22 |
schestowitz-TR | microsoct cried for DAYS | Apr 03 02:22 |
matey | all the way to the swiss bank | Apr 03 02:22 |
schestowitz-TR | because people said Microsoft was naughty for serving ICE | Apr 03 02:22 |
matey | right | Apr 03 02:22 |
matey | instead of thinking about the victims of ice nazis | Apr 03 02:22 |
matey | we should consider the feelings of people making millions in suits and ties | Apr 03 02:23 |
matey | goddamnit theyre people too (sort of) | Apr 03 02:23 |
matey | but the thing is | Apr 03 02:24 |
matey | the coup has wanted this code of ethics bullshit | Apr 03 02:24 |
matey | (it is bullshit, because these things are always opportunist, hypocritical and one-sided) since 2019 | Apr 03 02:24 |
matey | "And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directors" joshua gay | Apr 03 02:24 |
matey | i dont even know where its from | Apr 03 02:25 |
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matey | but i know i quoted it and then provided my own commentary | Apr 03 02:25 |
matey | and its dated 2019 | Apr 03 02:25 |
techrights-news | 7 Privacy-Focused Alternatives to Common Linux Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163291 | Apr 03 02:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Privacy-Focused Alternatives to Common Linux Software | Tux Machines | Apr 03 02:25 | |
matey | it could even be from chat logs for all i know | Apr 03 02:25 |
DaemonFC | I haven't heard mjg59_ make an opinion on the Microsoft GitHub Loves I.C.E. issue. I'd love to, considering that he was using GitHub I believe, last I checked. | Apr 03 02:26 |
matey | im 80% sure its from twitter though | Apr 03 02:26 |
DaemonFC | For his "kernel lockdown" stuff. | Apr 03 02:26 |
matey | "Here are some ideas to consider as the @fsf board and @johns_FSF plot a course for the future." | Apr 03 02:26 |
matey | i should also of course give a giant flying fuck about johns_FSF and his feelings | Apr 03 02:27 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft. Where I.C.E. goes to run their internment camps. | Apr 03 02:27 |
DaemonFC | Very SJW friendly, those people. | Apr 03 02:27 |
matey | "the @fsf board and @johns_FSF" | Apr 03 02:27 |
DaemonFC | Like literally, they comment on his Shitter account and everything. | Apr 03 02:27 |
matey | johns_fsf left, but the board did their code of ethics anyway | Apr 03 02:27 |
matey | this year | Apr 03 02:27 |
DaemonFC | Sometimes even about ME! | Apr 03 02:28 |
matey | it was josh that wanted it, so it must be a good idea | Apr 03 02:28 |
DaemonFC | This Ubuntu image is massive. | Apr 03 02:28 |
DaemonFC | Nearly 3 GB now. :/ | Apr 03 02:28 |
matey | oh and just to tie it into the coup... heres the date | Apr 03 02:29 |
matey | 18 Sep 2019 | Apr 03 02:29 |
DaemonFC | Remember when it fit on a CD? | Apr 03 02:29 |
matey | have a coup, wait 3 years, implement what the coup wants and then call it "a failure" | Apr 03 02:29 |
DaemonFC | Eh, Windows 10 needed at least 16 GB for the thumb drive. | Apr 03 02:29 |
matey | great plan, fsf | Apr 03 02:29 |
DaemonFC | Should be enough for anyone, really. | Apr 03 02:29 |
matey | *thumbs up* | Apr 03 02:29 |
matey | ) Have an organizational wide policy document that applies to all staff, directors, and representatives. It should explain the purpose of the org, how decisions are made, what its values are, etc. And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directors | Apr 03 02:30 |
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matey | they did this in 2022 as well: | Apr 03 02:30 |
matey | 3) With a real policy framework, consider becoming a true membership org | Apr 03 02:30 |
matey | "where members can form committees and can be more directly involved." | Apr 03 02:30 |
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matey | the boards take on this (so far) is to let them nominate board members | Apr 03 02:31 |
matey | that was implemented in 2022 | Apr 03 02:31 |
matey | josh wanted it two days after stallman was ousted | Apr 03 02:31 |
matey | techrights called it progress | Apr 03 02:31 |
matey | i said (2 1/2 years ago) that done wrong, these things would make the fsf more like osi | Apr 03 02:32 |
matey | with the same vulnerabilities to (further) corporate takeover | Apr 03 02:32 |
matey | similar to the "transformation" under phipps, followed by microsoft occupying and gutting it | Apr 03 02:32 |
matey | im sure that wont happen to the fsf though, because of exceptionalism | Apr 03 02:33 |
matey | the fsf can do exactly what osi did, and magically things wont turn out the same way | Apr 03 02:33 |
matey | thats the power of gnu | Apr 03 02:33 |
matey | i guess we will see soon enough | Apr 03 02:33 |
matey | maybe the state of free software will be "the state of free software and how we can give joshua gay everything he asked for on behalf of whomever" | Apr 03 02:34 |
matey | by the way, where did he go after he left the fsf? | Apr 03 02:34 |
matey | maybe it will give us some clue who he was speaking for (no guarantee, it wasnt necessarily tied to his professional work) | Apr 03 02:34 |
matey | i know that joshua gay isnt the mastermind of all this | Apr 03 02:35 |
techrights-news | Links 03/04/2022: 4.14.275 and Otter 1.0.0 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/otter-1-0-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/otter-1-0-0/ | Apr 03 02:36 |
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matey | by the way, i should also point this out: | Apr 03 02:36 |
matey | 4) Holding copyright, the GNU trademark, and setting policy for GNU via control of certain essential documents make you more than just a sponsor of the GNU Project. | Apr 03 02:36 |
matey | so the next item on the agenda IS to make the fsf to the gnu trademark closer to what lf is to the linux trademark | Apr 03 02:37 |
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techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163292 | Apr 03 02:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 02:37 | |
matey | thatll be Great. | Apr 03 02:37 |
matey | of course when it happens, people will say its a good idea, and paint it as progress | Apr 03 02:38 |
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matey | they could blow the planet into 5 separate pieces and make it sound like a great idea | Apr 03 02:38 |
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matey | "theres a chance theyll all just drive off into space, but we suspect that theyll continue their orbit around the sun and it wont plunge say, north america into darkness or face-first collision with asia" | Apr 03 02:39 |
matey | drift. drive is a funnier picture. | Apr 03 02:39 |
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schestowitz | http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.html | Apr 03 02:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Microsoft rightly withdrew support for ACT | The App(le) Association (which it once created) -- why are Verizon, Intel, AT&T, Verisign still behind advocacy against 99.9% of app developers? | Apr 03 02:40 | |
schestowitz | "I applaud Microsoft for finally (I had been waiting for this for about a year) having withdrawn its support for ACT | The App Association, which by now should more accurately be called ACT | The Apple Association." | Apr 03 02:40 |
schestowitz | "I applaud Microsoft " | Apr 03 02:40 |
schestowitz | They paid him | Apr 03 02:40 |
matey | most likely | Apr 03 02:40 |
matey | and of course of all the things microsoft supports | Apr 03 02:41 |
matey | act | apple was the worst of it by far | Apr 03 02:41 |
matey | hell they could polish their image just by subscribing to a bunch of wank then "withdrawing support" | Apr 03 02:42 |
techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-02.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-02.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Apr 03 02:42 |
matey | why not | Apr 03 02:42 |
techrights-news | "Dr. Roy Schestowitz is the #1 Microsoft hater." http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.html | Apr 03 02:42 |
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techrights-news | Cisco calling everything clown https://www.fiercetelecom.com/cloud/ciscos-intersight-hci-platform-supports-kubernetes-clusters | Apr 03 02:46 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Cisco’s Intersight hybrid cloud supports Kubernetes clusters | Fierce Telecom | Apr 03 02:46 | |
DaemonFC | The new theme in Ubuntu 22.04 is nice at least. | Apr 03 02:49 |
techrights-news | Idiots pushing spy meters, in-house surveillance essentially, based on fictional claims of "savings" https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/kettle-trick-save-energy-bills-23527816 | Apr 03 02:51 |
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techrights-news | And pushing spy meters again https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/meter-reading-energy-price-april-23518966 | Apr 03 02:52 |
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techrights-news | Intelligent [sic] escalator https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-09498-x | Apr 03 02:54 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | Intelligent escalator passenger safety management | Scientific Reports | Apr 03 02:54 | |
techrights-news | Boston Dynamics: when we don't kill people we at least kill people's jobs https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/boston_dynamics_robot_stretch/ | Apr 03 02:54 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Boston Dynamics' latest robot is a warehouse workhorse • The Register | Apr 03 02:54 | |
techrights-news | Wales Online rewriting Falklands War "history"; our regime will do a lot of work on revisionism, to highlight UK role in a flattering way... | Apr 03 02:56 |
techrights-news | April 3: Argentine forces take South Georgia. | Apr 03 02:58 |
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techrights-news | forbes propping up scams. "NFT".. "crypto"... "Web3" https://www.forbes.com/sites/hessiejones/2022/04/02/web3-2be-or-not-2be/ | Apr 03 02:59 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | WEB3: 2Be Or Not 2Be | Apr 03 02:59 | |
techrights-news | USA TODAY sees Russian invasion that left tens of thousands dead already.... as a BUSINESS issue https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/03/27/ukraine-tech-industry-russia-war/9457984002/ | Apr 03 02:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Ukraine is a hotbed of tech talent. disrupted by Russia war | Apr 03 02:59 | |
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techrights-news | El Reg adopted Microsoft lobbying term, "Big Tech" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/in_brief_security/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ | Apr 03 03:01 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Fraudsters use 'fake emergency data requests' to steal info • The Register | Apr 03 03:01 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights | Apr 03 03:01 | |
techrights-news | With Windows, even the keyboards stop working properly! https://www.guidingtech.com/top-ways-to-fix-keyboard-lag-on-windows-11/ | Apr 03 03:03 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guidingtech.com | Top 8 Ways to Fix Keyboard Lag on Windows 11 - Guiding Tech | Apr 03 03:03 | |
techrights-news | Decades-long Microsoft propagandist Paul Thurrott covering up for Microsoft back doors and other inherently security issues https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/265150/google-claims-microsoft-makes-governments-less-secure | Apr 03 03:04 |
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techrights-news | "So, by destructive commands, Viasat meant: modems were commanded by their compromised support servers to run destructive malware." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/sentinelone_wiper_viasat/ | Apr 03 03:06 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Modem-wiping malware caused Viasat broadband outage • The Register | Apr 03 03:06 | |
techrights-news | U.S. Supreme Court takes up copyright battle over Warhol's Prince paintings | Reuters ⚓ https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/us-supreme-court-decide-copyright-fight-over-warhols-prince-paintings-2022-03-28/ ䷉ Source: reuters | Apr 03 03:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Supreme Court takes up copyright battle over Warhol's Prince paintings | Reuters | Apr 03 03:07 | |
techrights-news | Well, a talent crisis of find-excuses-to-lower-salaries crisis? https://www.afr.com/technology/start-ups-demand-skills-spending-in-budget-to-fix-talent-crisis-20220328-p5a8m0 | Apr 03 03:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.afr.com | Start-ups demand skills spending in budget to fix talent crisis | Apr 03 03:08 | |
techrights-news | HEY HI or just some computer program they describe using buzzwords? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10659143/AI-software-predict-daily-E-admissions-rolled-100-NHS-hospitals-TODAY.html | Apr 03 03:09 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | AI software that can predict daily A&E admissions is rolled out in 100 NHS hospitals TODAY | Daily Mail Online | Apr 03 03:09 | |
techrights-news | USA TODAY thinks of war as a BUSINESS issue https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/03/27/ukraine-tech-industry-russia-war/9457984002/ | Apr 03 03:10 |
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techrights-news | US xenophobia https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/baidu_iqiyi_hfcaa_listing/ | Apr 03 03:11 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China's Baidu facing US stock exchange delisting • The Register | Apr 03 03:11 | |
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techrights-news | El Reg writes about mindless buzzwords, citing Microsoft propaganda outfit Forrester Research [sic] https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/02/asus-tinker-edge-r-sbc-with-3gb-ram-rockchip-rk3399pro/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Forrester | Apr 03 03:12 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | ASUS Tinker Edge R SBC with 3GB RAM, Rockchip RK3399Pro sells for $179 - CNX Software | Apr 03 03:12 | |
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techrights-news | Microsoft = crime and corruption, Organised Crime https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/valuelicensing_microsoft_latest/ | Apr 03 03:13 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft tries to strike out £270m UKValueLicensing suit • The Register | Apr 03 03:13 | |
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techrights-news | Apple never cared about security; it's a "rat" for the NSA https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/apple_emergency_patches/ | Apr 03 03:14 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple patches 'exploited' macOS, iOS, iPadOS security bugs • The Register | Apr 03 03:14 | |
techrights-news | "Michael Barker surveys some of the alternative APIs available on various platforms, discussing some of the implementation pitfalls. He also looks at the impact of using these APIs." https://www.infoq.com/presentations/posix-networking-api/ | Apr 03 03:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Beyond POSIX - Adventures in Alternative Networking APIs | Apr 03 03:16 | |
techrights-news | "Tomorrow will be four years to the day that I started this site." Boosting Gulag. But at least a GNU/Linux based OS. https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/as-lacros-for-chromebooks-nears-is-it-time-for-more-google-chrome-coverage/ | Apr 03 03:17 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | As Lacros for Chromebooks nears, is it time for more Google Chrome coverage? – About Chromebooks | Apr 03 03:17 | |
techrights-news | Perfect fit for Microsoft! https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/activision-blizzard-settlement | Apr 03 03:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Activision Blizzard settles federal sexual harassment suit, but its legal woes are just beginning - Protocol | Apr 03 03:20 | |
techrights-news | ISIS partner and patent troll Ericsson embraces mindless buzzword to sell hype and more buzzwords https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/5g-architecture-for-hybrid-and-multi-cloud-environments | Apr 03 03:21 |
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techrights-news | Mindless greenwashing of massive polluters like Google and Microsoft https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/corporate-procurement/can-24-7-carbon-free-energy-become-a-global-standard see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ | Apr 03 03:23 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights | Apr 03 03:23 | |
techrights-news | Bitcoin’s proof of work mechanism is a climate disaster. Environmental groups have a fix. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/bitcoin-mining-proof-of-work | Apr 03 03:24 |
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techrights-news | Get rid of the darn patents; Biden has done virtually nothing except he talked about it. https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/biden-seeks-21b-funding-boost-fda-part-pan-agency-pandemic-preparedness-plan | Apr 03 03:24 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Biden seeks $2.1B funding boost for FDA, part of pan-agency pandemic preparedness plan | Fierce Biotech | Apr 03 03:24 | |
techrights-news | Pushing plagiarism for the Microsoft criminals who came up with this thing https://www.infoworld.com/article/3655991/github-copilot-available-for-microsoft-visual-studio-2022.html see http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ | Apr 03 03:26 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | Techrights | Apr 03 03:26 | |
techrights-news | Clown computing hype, as if hosting did not predate the hype wave https://mindmatters.ai/2022/03/getting-started-with-kubernetes-a-brief-history-of-cloud-hosting/ | Apr 03 03:27 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mindmatters.ai | Getting Started with Kubernetes: A Brief History of Cloud Hosting | Mind Matters | Apr 03 03:27 | |
techrights-news | What if OpenSSF does not pursue real security? https://itbrief.co.nz/story/free-security-training-from-the-open-source-security-foundation http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ | Apr 03 03:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itbrief.co.nz | Free security training from the Open Source Security Foundation | Apr 03 03:28 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It’s About Back Doors — Not Real Security — Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights | Apr 03 03:28 | |
techrights-news | Mozilla keeps messing up the Firefox UI https://www.osnews.com/story/134730/firefox-ui-ux-history/ | Apr 03 03:29 |
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techrights-news | More Linux Foundation puff pieces/ads https://devops.com/fixing-spring4shell-starts-with-software-supply-chain-management/ | Apr 03 03:31 |
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techrights-news | "OpenStack's 25th release brings the usual crop of new features to the open-source cloud platform, including support for DPUs, better integration with Prometheus and Kubernetes, and a handy un-delete feature for file system shares." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/openstack_yoga_stretches_to_support/ | Apr 03 03:32 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | OpenStack Yoga marks 12 years of the framework • The Register | Apr 03 03:32 | |
techrights-news | and harms culture https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2022/04/02/side-door-home-concert-app-music-industry-tech-sxsw-presentation-dan-mangan/stories/202203170144 | Apr 03 03:33 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New tech revolutionizes the music industry, one house concert at a time | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette | Apr 03 03:33 | |
techrights-news | Imagine not being able to add fuel to your car anonymously https://insideevs.com/news/576531/new-charging-protocol-tesla-supercharger-convenience/ | Apr 03 03:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insideevs.com | New Charging Protocol May Bring Tesla Supercharger Convenience To All EVs | Apr 03 03:34 | |
techrights-news | This is the distro I now use on a new machine https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/neon-a-wannabe-linux-distro-for-kde-lovers-86133.html | Apr 03 03:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neon: A Wannabe Linux Distro For KDE Lovers | LinuxInsider | Apr 03 03:35 | |
techrights-news | DDOS attack on Techrights at the moment... mitigating | Apr 03 03:36 |
techrights-news | NSA developed more malicious spying programs; its concern isn't human rights but people who speak about it https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/nsa_employee_secret_data_leak/ | Apr 03 03:37 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | NSA employee indicted for 'leaking top secret defense info' • The Register | Apr 03 03:37 | |
techrights-news | Regimes that do not respect the desires of home to be and remain COVID-free https://chicagomaroon.com/article/2022/3/30/classroom-settings-go-mask-optional-starting-april-4/ | Apr 03 03:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicagomaroon.com | Most Classroom Settings to Go Mask-Optional Starting April 4 | Apr 03 03:38 | |
schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D191.jpg | Apr 03 03:39 |
schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D549.jpg | Apr 03 03:39 |
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techrights-news | Roberto Innocenti on Open Hardware PowerPC Notebook | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/ | Apr 03 04:01 |
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techrights-news | JWMDesk 3.5.1 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163293 | Apr 03 04:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JWMDesk 3.5.1 released | Tux Machines | Apr 03 04:08 | |
AdmFubar1 | Here we go! SHAabM (security hype as a business Model) https://arstechnica.com/?p=1845362 | Apr 03 04:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Explaining Spring4Shell: The Internet security disaster that wasn’t | Ars Technica | Apr 03 04:31 | |
techrights-news | Software Freedom is not enough when hardware becomes increasingly restrictive and opaque. This is where people like Roberto Innocenti step in. http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/ | Apr 03 04:44 |
techrights-news | Shill and liar IDC promoting the scam of clown computing, using false dichotomies for outsourcing (guess who pays IDC) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/idc_public_cloud_spending/ | Apr 03 04:44 |
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techrights-news | Resource and energy hog. Go home, Intel. You are drunk. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/intel-arc-graphics-chips | Apr 03 04:45 |
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matey | i finally tried bibliogram | Apr 03 05:00 |
matey | its not often that i need to look at something on zuckstagram but i wanted to today | Apr 03 05:01 |
matey | i tried several instances and they were all blocked by zuck, but one worked | Apr 03 05:01 |
matey | so fb is a little more aggressive than twitter i think when dealing with front ends. not too surprising | Apr 03 05:02 |
techrights-news | Can you steal money from a SCAM? Who steals from who? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/axie-infinity-ronin-hack | Apr 03 05:02 |
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techrights-news | Exploring the use of tech-based tools in India to curb dissent during protests - Global Voices ⚓ https://globalvoices.org/2022/04/01/exploring-the-use-of-tech-based-tools-in-india-to-curb-dissent-during-protests/ ䷉ Source: globalvoices | Apr 03 05:03 |
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activelow | i see, tinycc is LGPLv2 | Apr 03 05:05 |
activelow | which is slightly confusing, how LGPL2 was different to ordinary GPL2 | Apr 03 05:05 |
activelow | aware of the argument LGPLv2 was less restrictive | Apr 03 05:06 |
activelow | however, i think the restriction of ordinary GPL2 may be void anyway, meaning i question linking against a GPL2 lib or similar implies such linking enforced full copyleft | Apr 03 05:07 |
activelow | i fail to recognize the argument, a proprietary program must remain and expand copyleft onto itself when linking against a GPL2 library | Apr 03 05:08 |
activelow | because, this contradicts author's rights fundemenetally, for example, to choose which license applied to the own work | Apr 03 05:08 |
activelow | even when linking against GPL2; of cause changes to a GPL piece of software must retain GPL copyleft, yet linking to a lib doesn't necessarily imply copyleft covers the proprietary piece | Apr 03 05:10 |
matey | <activelow> which is slightly confusing, how LGPL2 was different to ordinary GPL2 <- lgpl was made for a few special uses | Apr 03 05:10 |
matey | its more permissive | Apr 03 05:10 |
matey | use as needed | Apr 03 05:10 |
activelow | yes, yet I doubt GPL2 is less permissive/more restrictive in practice | Apr 03 05:10 |
techrights-news | Bain = corruption https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/toshiba_bain_sale_plan/ | Apr 03 05:11 |
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activelow | maybe, if they argued #include <gpl-header.h> was different to #include <lgpl-header.h>; however this is a very weak technical argument to say a header inclusion enforced copyleft into where the header included | Apr 03 05:12 |
techrights-news | The stupidest gimmick I've seen in years https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4490739 | Apr 03 05:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Dyson Confirms 2022 Launch of Air-Purifying Headphones Delivering Pure Air and Pure Audio | Taiwan News | 2022-03-30 14:30:00 | Apr 03 05:12 | |
techrights-news | Diversity is now "the formerly incarcerated" https://buffalonews.com/news/local/diversity-focused-technology-training-firm-bitwise-coming-to-buffalo/article_18b53c78-aeae-11ec-af1a-3fc233af51b0.html | Apr 03 05:13 |
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activelow | except, if GPL2 explicitely stated inclusion of a gpl2-header enforced GPL copyleft into where it is included, which GPL2 doesn't | Apr 03 05:13 |
techrights-news | Maybe next year "diversity" will mean "includes criminals" (like Microsoft) | Apr 03 05:13 |
activelow | meaning the _explicite_ LGPL2 permission to link/include is equivalent to an _implicite_ possibility to do it with GPL2 alike; | Apr 03 05:14 |
activelow | of cause, i mostly prefer strong copyleft, however i think GPL2 may not offer it since there isn't any expicite clause to prohibit linking/inclusion | Apr 03 05:16 |
activelow | with regards to copyleft GPL2 is dangerous, because it is prone to both unintended/undesireable copyleft expansion, and unintended avoidance of it | Apr 03 05:17 |
techrights-news | Fake money, bullshit money. More "Smart" buzzwords. https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/29/join-us-tomorrow-for-defi-and-the-future-of-programmable-money/ | Apr 03 05:18 |
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techrights-news | What pertinent skills will these be? Memorising GUIs? https://www.oakdaleleader.com/news/bay-valley-tech-receives-grant-digital-skills-training/ | Apr 03 05:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oakdaleleader.com | Bay Valley Tech Receives Grant For Digital Skills Training - Oakdale Leader | Apr 03 05:18 | |
techrights-news | Self-congratulatory webspam https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/03/b26400498/datastax-recognized-as-a-phenomenal-place-to-work-with-three-comparably-awards | Apr 03 05:19 |
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techrights-news | "Clicking on links in emails from well-known brands can be dangerous because of brand abuse." https://www.wyomingnewsnow.tv/2022/04/01/cyber-wyoming-tracking-local-phishing-attacks/ | Apr 03 05:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wyomingnewsnow.tv | Cyber Wyoming Tracking Local Phishing Attacks | Apr 03 05:20 | |
activelow | furthermore, GPL(2) doesn't distinguish non-commercial ("public domain", "educational", academic) usage from commercial interests | Apr 03 05:21 |
techrights-news | Clownflare has become a LOT more aggressive lately against people who do NOT run proprietary JavaScript. That proprietary JavaScript is ITSELF the risk. Clownflare should be eradicated. Clownflare as a company, still not profitable, should cease to exist. | Apr 03 05:22 |
activelow | i don't appreciate this, for example, as an author i would prefer any work of mine may be 100% for schools/universities, however i object to free as in gratis for commercial business with free software | Apr 03 05:22 |
activelow | in german copyright law it is called "Verwertungsrechte" (commercial rights), distinguished from authors rights | Apr 03 05:23 |
activelow | author's rights cannot be transferred, sold, or terminated in any way, and an author may decide to transfer the commercial rights of his work | Apr 03 05:24 |
activelow | however, GPL doesn't distinguish author's rights and commercial rights (as in Verwertungsrechte) | Apr 03 05:25 |
activelow | same with LGPL2, which i consider redundant, because i question GPL2 copyleft expansion with both technical arguments, and legal arguments | Apr 03 05:27 |
activelow | because an #include <gpl2-header.h> does not suffice to consider any piece of software a derivative work of what's included/linked | Apr 03 05:27 |
activelow | the #include/linking against gpl2.h is a necessity to define what is a derivative work, yet it is _insufficient_, both legally and technically | Apr 03 05:28 |
activelow | in fact, the _uncertainty_ with GPL2 to define what is a derivative work and what isn't, this uncertainty is worse than an explicite permission with LGPL2 | Apr 03 05:30 |
activelow | and it's a loophole into unnecessary, useless, harmful lawsuits and legal challenges | Apr 03 05:30 |
matey | i don't appreciate this, for example, as an author i would prefer any work of mine may be 100% for schools/universities, however i object to free as in gratis for commercial business with free software <- this would create greater uncertainty than what is/isnt derivative | Apr 03 05:33 |
matey | drawing a distinct and reliable line between commercial / non-commercial just takes free licensing and puts it back into the purview of lawyers again | Apr 03 05:34 |
matey | as things are, you can mostly use gpl without ever hiring a lawyer | Apr 03 05:34 |
matey | lawyers for big companies dispute this to protect income, but the fact is most people can convey gpl software without it being a big deal | Apr 03 05:34 |
matey | you start drawing "distinct" lines between commercial and nc, you basically create a minefield where one did not exist before | Apr 03 05:35 |
matey | its MUCH less useful then | Apr 03 05:35 |
matey | and as a bonus, it will likely vary from country to country, so thats nice | Apr 03 05:35 |
matey | cc license with the nc clause have this problem as well | Apr 03 05:36 |
matey | can you use them in x situation? no one fucking knows, good luck! | Apr 03 05:36 |
matey | free software doesnt need that shit | Apr 03 05:36 |
matey | im anti-capitalist, but the license should be neutral on commercial use | Apr 03 05:37 |
matey | otherwise it will be nuts | Apr 03 05:37 |
activelow | i do not want to publish with GPL license and see any corrupt business entity benefit | Apr 03 05:38 |
activelow | to boil up this argument to maximum heat, when thinking about FSF (Europe mainly) and their associates, it is a party politics outlet of "liberals", who discovered various "freedoms" under the banner of "free software" | Apr 03 05:42 |
activelow | however, in parallel too i remember, who the exact same type of "liberals" and party politics conducted their business in Telco univeristy | Apr 03 05:42 |
activelow | *how | Apr 03 05:42 |
activelow | so, they can use the "free software" label, as a marketing gag, to lure developers and users into their sharholder value meat grinder | Apr 03 05:43 |
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activelow | furthermore, GPL doesn't terminate any other legislation, although it seems implied somehow, basic principles such as salary in return for work | Apr 03 05:49 |
activelow | then again, "liberals" sneak around the corner, and argue it's "the market" which decided this was in compliance; or GPL simply wasn't suitable when instead proprietary software licenses were | Apr 03 05:50 |
matey | i do not want to publish with GPL license and see any corrupt business entity benefit <- you probably cant have a license take care of that disctinction and still have it be useful to other people | Apr 03 05:50 |
matey | theres no such thing as a perfect license-- the more you try to make the license accomplish, the harder it is to pull of the stunt | Apr 03 05:51 |
matey | there are good licenses, mediocre licenses and terrible licenses, but no perfect license | Apr 03 05:52 |
matey | mediocre licenses barely accomplish what anyone wants | Apr 03 05:52 |
matey | terrible licenses screw over the intended audience, usually as a deliberate course of action | Apr 03 05:53 |
activelow | in compliance with Bern Convention ("author's rights"); this alone already could prevent some mis-understandings | Apr 03 05:53 |
matey | good licenses accomplish good things, and (preferably) dont balkanise things too much | Apr 03 05:53 |
activelow | such as, any corrupt business entity must not: use any work of an author without consent, and must state who the author is | Apr 03 05:54 |
matey | in compliance with Bern Convention ("author's rights"); this alone already could prevent some mis-understandings <- in practice, century-old treaties havent had too much impact on free software licensing and are mostly commented on to troll and spread fud imo | Apr 03 05:54 |
activelow | GPL2, nor any other license, could terminate those rights - except if there was legal aspects i am not aware of | Apr 03 05:54 |
activelow | *could not | Apr 03 05:55 |
activelow | GPL2, nor any other license, could _not_ terminate those rights - except if there was legal aspects i am not aware of | Apr 03 05:55 |
matey | GPL2, nor any other license, could terminate those rights <- perhaps not, but if not then its not likely a problem | Apr 03 05:55 |
matey | fsf(europe) in my opinion is corrupt, by google and whatever else | Apr 03 05:57 |
matey | arguably worse than the other fsfs | Apr 03 05:57 |
matey | not originally, but in the past few years at least | Apr 03 05:58 |
activelow | party politics outlet | Apr 03 05:58 |
activelow | that's why, we see "ethical license" and similar now, because there is various different political parties, each with their own ideas | Apr 03 05:58 |
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matey | from what i know of these parties, its inaccurate to make it about parties at all | Apr 03 06:02 |
matey | "ethical license" and similar now <- this isnt about parties | Apr 03 06:02 |
activelow | in germany it is party politics, and this is what it is about here, and the interests involved, which is cash grabbing | Apr 03 06:03 |
matey | its about political left opportunists (minimal overlap with actual party agendas) who are in it for themselves, and dont give a damn about a a party, or its members, or even the people the license would allegedly server | Apr 03 06:03 |
matey | serve | Apr 03 06:03 |
matey | and its crap basically | Apr 03 06:03 |
matey | they are politically left but they dont care about their own allies | Apr 03 06:03 |
matey | and their potential allies (who get nothing in exchange and gather no benefit from this opportunism) either awkwardly and naively support it, or... | Apr 03 06:04 |
matey | just as often, the opportunism can find no support from its own "side" and jumps to the other side to further its (selfish, opportunistic) agenda | Apr 03 06:04 |
matey | in that sense it couldnt be less about a party than it is | Apr 03 06:05 |
matey | its just about promoting nonsense and painting it left or right or centrist | Apr 03 06:05 |
matey | when surveillance capitalist megacorporations (superficially) join forces with these people | Apr 03 06:06 |
matey | you can tell who theyre doing it for. themselves. | Apr 03 06:06 |
matey | the solution to shit politics is non-shit politics | Apr 03 06:06 |
matey | free software has done non-shit politics for years, but the opportunists have (mostly) won (for now) | Apr 03 06:07 |
matey | it could change anytime (and often does when not expected) | Apr 03 06:07 |
matey | technically speaking at least | Apr 03 06:07 |
matey | in germany it is party politics, and this is what it is about here, and the interests involved, which is cash grabbing <- google doesnt care about german party political agendas | Apr 03 06:08 |
matey | it simply wants to buy influence at fsfe | Apr 03 06:08 |
matey | theres some truth to what youre saying even then, but its part of a larger picture | Apr 03 06:08 |
activelow | german party politics are awkward, which is, it is a shallow facade, of supposedly multiple parties existing, when instead their prominence is what i consider centrally controlled | Apr 03 06:09 |
activelow | by the "Atlantik Brücke"/Washington/Pentagon | Apr 03 06:09 |
matey | the eu certainly complicates all this-- but it too cares less about party politics | Apr 03 06:09 |
activelow | eu is rigged | Apr 03 06:10 |
matey | mostly by germany and francy | Apr 03 06:10 |
matey | france | Apr 03 06:10 |
matey | there are outside influences of course | Apr 03 06:10 |
activelow | nope, EU apparatus sanctioned those who were compliant with EU contracts, and benefit those who violated them | Apr 03 06:10 |
matey | money is like that | Apr 03 06:10 |
activelow | even worse, although i wouldn't consider EU "democratic", i consider EU not _constitutional_ | Apr 03 06:11 |
activelow | rule of law | Apr 03 06:12 |
activelow | which is, compensated instead, with "higher" morality in this apparatus, and higher intellect which escapes mine | Apr 03 06:13 |
activelow | since ICE/immigration were mentioned today, it's better i not begin with my argument | Apr 03 06:13 |
activelow | which is moot, anyway, because it's past, it's history | Apr 03 06:13 |
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techrights-news | Rich companies are using a quiet tactic to block lawsuits: bankruptcy https://text.npr.org/1082871843 | Apr 03 06:24 |
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techrights-news | "The actor Will Smith does not have an official Twitter account." https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/will-smith-twitter-oscars-slap-1235221706/ | Apr 03 06:24 |
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techrights-news | "When I want to charge my wireless mouse now, I don’t need to plug in a cord or place it on a dock. In fact, I don’t think about charging at all." https://www.theverge.com/23005435/magic-mouse-apple-logitech-powerplay | Apr 03 06:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The real magic mouse is made by Logitech, not Apple - The Verge | Apr 03 06:26 | |
techrights-news | Gulag https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/1/23006132/google-patient-reviews-hipaa-doctors-yelp | Apr 03 06:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Writing Google reviews about patients is actually a HIPAA violation - The Verge | Apr 03 06:27 | |
techrights-news | "While certain cryptocurrencies have entered the real world via traditional means of payment like credit cards, the vast majority remain completely intangible" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/21285-5-most-interesting-cryptos-in-the-market.html | Apr 03 06:31 |
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techrights-news | The copyright cartel deserves nothing short of boycott https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-targets-popular-youtube-ripper-with-60-million-monthly-visits-220402/ | Apr 03 06:37 |
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techrights-news | This needs to happen in every company https://robertreich.org/post/680432413956030464 | Apr 03 06:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (Amazon workers’ astounding win, and how corporate...) | Apr 03 06:38 | |
techrights-news | "European Union lawmakers on Thursday backed tougher traceability rules for transfers of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, in a move the industry said would erode privacy" https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/31/eu-lawmakers-target-crypto-transfers-in-battle-against-money-laundering | Apr 03 06:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU lawmakers back tough traceability rules on crypto transfers in fight against money laundering | Euronews | Apr 03 06:39 | |
techrights-news | "Russia says it will end cooperation with other nations on the International Space Station until the sanctions put on the country are lifted." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/2/23007575/russia-suspend-iss-cooperation-sanctions-lifted-ukraine-space-nasa | Apr 03 06:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Russia says it will suspend ISS cooperation until sanctions are lifted - The Verge | Apr 03 06:39 | |
techrights-news | Misinformation/Disinformation in "influencing" clothing https://www.economist.com/business/2022/04/02/the-business-of-influencing-is-not-frivolous-its-serious | Apr 03 06:40 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The business of influencing is not frivolous. It’s serious | The Economist | Apr 03 06:40 | |
techrights-news | Media lies https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/media-lies-presenter-mocks-journalists/ | Apr 03 06:41 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mexiconewsdaily.com | Media lies presenter mocks journalists but gets her facts wrong | Apr 03 06:41 | |
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techrights-news | "I find myself enabling JS in uBlock Origin for page after page after page, even if just temporarily, in order to visit them at all. Are web designers not aware that a big chunk of people hate JS? Do modern frameworks not support JS free designs at all?" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-everything-breaks-experiencing-the-web-without-javascript.gmi | Apr 03 06:42 |
techrights-news | "(If you have the sources checked out, please note that I just switched the default branch from "master" to "main".)" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-02_Halberds_and_Helmets because racist companies asked... | Apr 03 06:44 |
techrights-news | Boycott SweatshopZone (Amazom) https://text.npr.org/1090353185 | Apr 03 06:45 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | He was fired by Amazon 2 years ago. Now he's the force behind the company's 1st union | Apr 03 06:45 | |
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techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, April 02, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 03 06:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 03 06:55 | |
techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 03 06:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 03 06:55 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▄▁▂▄▆▃▅▆▂▃▃▄█▃▄▄▁▄▂▆▄▅▃▁▇▄▇▄▇▅▄▁▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 24.31 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁██▂▂▁█▁▁▁▃▁▄▂██▁▁▂█▄▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 119.85▕ swarm size (avg): 254.70 ⟲ | Apr 03 06:59 |
techrights-news | ⚓ ☛ OpenStack | ♾ Gemini address: ☛ OpenStack | Apr 03 07:05 |
techrights-news | Links 03/04/2022: OpenStack and JWMDesk 3.5.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/jwmdesk-3-5-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/jwmdesk-3-5-1/ | Apr 03 07:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 03/04/2022: OpenStack and JWMDesk 3.5.1 | Techrights | Apr 03 07:06 | |
techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163294 | Apr 03 07:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 07:06 | |
techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163295 | Apr 03 07:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 03 07:06 | |
techrights-news | Servers: OpenStack and ’Clown Computing’ Hype • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163296 | Apr 03 07:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: OpenStack and 'Clown Computing' Hype | Tux Machines | Apr 03 07:06 | |
techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163297 | Apr 03 07:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 07:07 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▇▇▅▅▄▅▅▆▂▃▅▁▁▆▄▅▂▃▆▄▂▃▃▇▄▅█▅▂▅▁▂▁▁▁▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 25.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁█▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▃▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂█▁▇█▇▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 57.48▕ swarm size (avg): 244.71 ⟲ | Apr 03 07:59 |
techrights-news | WSL is NOT "ubuntu"; it is just Microsoft's ATTACK on GNU/Linux https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-ubuntu-error/ | Apr 03 08:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | How to fix Windows 11's Ubuntu error | Apr 03 08:07 | |
techrights-news | Early versions of Ubuntu came with a Mandela video. Now, Ubuntu versions come with 'love letters' to criminals from Microsoft. | Apr 03 08:08 |
techrights-news | [GIT PULL] RISC-V Patches for the 5.18 Merge Window, Part 2 - Palmer Dabbelt ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/mhng-e0c01ab7-020f-4264-91da-0852f7e89534@palmer-mbp2014/ | Apr 03 08:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] RISC-V Patches for the 5.18 Merge Window, Part 2 - Palmer Dabbelt | Apr 03 08:10 | |
techrights-news | Microsoft fires people who do not participate in crimes, protects criminals. This company should be kept around until every last executive is prosecuted and arrested. Then their and the company's accounts should be emptied, paid back in compensation to their victims. | Apr 03 08:12 |
techrights-news | Also, regarding Linux Foundation, it needs to deal with crime and corruption it has internally before it gathers the aucacity to lecture the community about ethics, manners | Apr 03 08:13 |
techrights-news | 192: Fedora 36, Ubuntu 22.04, Deepin, Rolling Rhino Remix, Parrot OS and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-192/ | Apr 03 08:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-192: Fedora 36, Ubuntu 22.04, Deepin, Rolling Rhino Remix, Parrot OS and more Linux news! - TuxDigital | Apr 03 08:14 | |
techrights-news | Microsoft Terminated Us For Not Participating In An Orgy https://web.archive.org/web/20120521162529/http://www.aviransplace.com/2010/01/25/microsoft-banned-us-for-not-participating-in-an-orgy/ | Apr 03 08:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Microsoft Terminated Us For Not Participating In An Orgy | Aviran’s Place | Apr 03 08:16 | |
techrights-news | "EIM’s personnel refused to participate in the drug and sex party which caused Microsoft to cancel their agreement and terminate their distributor license, which caused EIM a 50% loss in revenue." https://web.archive.org/web/20120521162529/http://www.aviransplace.com/2010/01/25/microsoft-banned-us-for-not-participating-in-an-orgy/ | Apr 03 08:17 |
techrights-news | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988 | Apr 03 08:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Apr 03 08:17 | |
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techrights-news | Linux Foundation: organisation that puts shackles on the hands of Linux's founder while helping reputation laundering by criminal companies (that also attack Linux) and gagging their critics/exposers. Linux Foundation = crime enabler, corruption supplies. IRS may have already put it under investigation. | Apr 03 08:20 |
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schestowitz-TR | hi, foxpup | Apr 03 08:25 |
techrights-news | Lawyers are the ones CAUSING the pressure. Inverting the narratives much? This spin became typical 2-3 years ago. https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/40-wellness-tips-to-help-lawyers-cope-with-job-pressure | Apr 03 08:26 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abajournal.com | 40 wellness tips to help lawyers cope with job pressure | Apr 03 08:26 | |
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techrights-news | Now even the name 'Yellowstone' is being hijacked by the copyright cartel | Apr 03 08:27 |
techrights-news | Gulag is being facetious https://emerging-europe.com/business/start-ups-and-tech-will-be-key-to-rebuilding-google-launches-ukraine-support-fund/ Gulag PROFITS from war and also see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ | Apr 03 08:28 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emerging-europe.com | 'Start-ups and tech will be key to rebuilding': Google launches Ukraine Support Fund | Apr 03 08:28 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights | Apr 03 08:28 | |
techrights-news | As the economy rots the local radio is promoting GAMBLING https://wpst.com/50-grand-winning-lottery-ticket-from-grocery-store-in-hamilton-nj/ | Apr 03 08:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wpst.com | $50 Grand Winning Lottery Ticket From Food Store in Hamilton, NJ | Apr 03 08:29 | |
techrights-news | Powered by GNU/Linux https://www.eetimes.eu/apex-ai-leverages-ros-for-autonomous-driving/ | Apr 03 08:30 |
techrights-news | Rotten Apple on the same side of Koch. Think about it when you buy Apple's "i" crap. https://www.pymnts.com/legal/2022/apple-wins-koch-group-support-over-epic-games-lawsuit/ | Apr 03 08:31 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Apr 03 08:31 |
techrights-news | Apple facing new $5.5 billion App Store antitrust lawsuit in the Netherlands https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226850 | Apr 03 08:32 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226850 | Apr 03 08:32 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.appleinsider.com | Apple facing new $5.5 billion App Store antitrust lawsuit in the Netherlands - General Discussion Discussions on AppleInsider Forums | Apr 03 08:32 | |
techrights-news | Apple "crashing" https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/5-1-crash-report-help.2339776/ | Apr 03 08:35 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | 5,1 crash report help | MacRumors Forums | Apr 03 08:35 | |
techrights-news | Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=PJu9UkokzkY | Apr 03 08:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube.076.ne.jp | Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious | Apr 03 08:36 | |
techrights-news | Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/rms-steve-jobs-2013/ | Apr 03 08:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things | Techrights | Apr 03 08:36 | |
techrights-news | Steve Jobs offered to pay Linus Torvalds to STOP developing Linux, according to Torvalds | Apr 03 08:37 |
techrights-news | As if we don't have enough humans already http://www.montana.edu/news/21972/msu-graduate-student-on-frontier-of-adapting-robots-to-work-better-with-humans | Apr 03 08:38 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montana.edu | MSU News | Montana State University | Apr 03 08:38 | |
techrights-news | Brave 1.37: new sidebar, custom new tab backgrounds and privacy improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163298 | Apr 03 08:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave 1.37: new sidebar, custom new tab backgrounds and privacy improvements | Tux Machines | Apr 03 08:38 | |
techrights-news | Bailouts at taxpayers' expense, without actually helping the taxpayers in dire need of assistance https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/competes_act_senate/ | Apr 03 08:40 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Senate passes America COMPETES Act and its chip subsidies • The Register | Apr 03 08:40 | |
techrights-news | Say oligarchs. I dare you. But uou know who owns and controls media... https://khmoradio.com/see-missouris-list-of-the-top-6-billionaires-in-the-state/ | Apr 03 08:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-khmoradio.com | See Missouri's List of The Top 6 Billionaires in The State | Apr 03 08:41 | |
techrights-news | Apex.AI Leverages ROS for Autonomous Driving • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163299 | Apr 03 08:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apex.AI Leverages ROS for Autonomous Driving | Tux Machines | Apr 03 08:41 | |
techrights-news | The open source way with artist Jasmine Becket-Griffith of Strangeling.com • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163300 | Apr 03 08:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The open source way with artist Jasmine Becket-Griffith of Strangeling.com | Tux Machines | Apr 03 08:41 | |
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techrights-news | "Network equipment maker Ubiquiti on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against infosec journalist Brian Krebs, alleging he defamed the company by falsely accusing the firm of covering up a cyber-attack." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/ubiquiti_brian_krebs/ | Apr 03 08:44 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ubiquiti sues infosec journo for defamation over hack report • The Register | Apr 03 08:44 | |
techrights-news | When are the criminals from Microsoft going to be charged and arrested too? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/twilio-employees-sec-insider-trading | Apr 03 08:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SEC Charges Twilio Employees in $1 Million Insider Trading case - Protocol | Apr 03 08:45 | |
techrights-news | Proprietary software is always deceptive https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/ftc-intuit-turbotax | Apr 03 08:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FTC says Intuit’s TurboTax free tax filing claim is deceptive - Protocol | Apr 03 08:46 | |
techrights-news | "SSL and its descendent, TLS, are protocols that encrypt internet traffic, making secure internet communication and ecommerce possible." They do, in turn, create other problems https://www.csoonline.com/article/3246212/what-is-ssl-how-ssl-certificates-enable-encrypted-communication.html | Apr 03 08:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | What is SSL? How SSL certificates enable encrypted communication | CSO Online | Apr 03 08:48 | |
techrights-news | Is this the End of the road for elementary OS? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163301 | Apr 03 08:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is this the End of the road for elementary OS? | Tux Machines | Apr 03 08:48 | |
techrights-news | Not everyone carries these spying devices. Moreover, IMO, nobody at all should carry them. https://securitytoday.com/articles/2022/04/01/mobile-ticketing-to-the-rescue.aspx | Apr 03 08:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securitytoday.com | Mobile Ticketing to the Rescue -- Security Today | Apr 03 08:51 | |
techrights-news | Destroying the minds of many young people https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/reels-tiktok-instagram-spam | Apr 03 08:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta's most popular Reels are coming from anonymous accounts - Protocol | Apr 03 08:52 | |
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techrights-news | "SteamOS 3.0 is a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux, mostly designed to play your Steam games on non PC machines. It is mostly open source with some proprietary components, meaning a port for exploited devices such as a Jailbroken PS4 is a possibility." https://wololo.net/2022/03/28/release-steamos-3-0-for-ps4-unofficial/ | Apr 03 08:55 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release: SteamOS 3.0 for PS4 (unofficial) - Wololo.net | Apr 03 08:55 | |
techrights-news | steam deck clown gaming - Reviewed ⚓ https://www.reviewed.com/laptops/features/steam-deck-cloud-gaming ䷉ Source: reviewed | Apr 03 08:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-steam deck cloud gaming - Reviewed | Apr 03 08:55 | |
techrights-news | Apple 'quality': "I upgraded the processor and SSD in my late 2012 iMac. About once a day it crashes and gives me error reports like the one pasted below." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/late-2012-imac-kernel-panic-after-processor-and-ssd-upgrade.2340189/ | Apr 03 08:57 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | Late 2012 iMac Kernel Panic after Processor and SSD Upgrade | MacRumors Forums | Apr 03 08:57 | |
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techrights-news | "Dr Lynn Woods, Professor in the Department of Doctoral Programs, School of Nursing, Azusa Pacific University, provides further analysis of Latinx & dementia, including systems of healing & the challenge of behavioural symptoms" https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/latinx-dementia-symptoms-challenges/132831/ | Apr 03 08:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openaccessgovernment.org | Latinx & dementia: The challenge of behavioural symptoms | Apr 03 08:57 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▃▆▇█▁▆▆▆▄▃▂▃▃▅▅▃▁▂▂▅▁▂▃▆▄▂▅▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 41.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂█▁▁█▁▂▃█▁█▃▁▂▁▂▁▂████▁▃▁▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 106.15▕ swarm size (avg): 289.68 ⟲ | Apr 03 08:59 |
techrights-news | This data should not be routed through USA, either https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/yandex-russia-ios-android-data | Apr 03 09:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Yandex routing iOS, Android user data to Russia - Protocol | Apr 03 09:00 | |
techrights-news | This would only increase the level of surveillance https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/dma-messaging-apps | Apr 03 09:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iMessage, WhatsApp could be forced to work together - Protocol | Apr 03 09:01 | |
techrights-news | "Zulip today announced the release of Zulip Server 5.0, a major update that marks a release of the Zulip server and web applications." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/566879815/zulip-leading-open-source-team-collaboration-tool-releases-server-5-0 | Apr 03 09:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | Zulip, Leading Open-Source Team Collaboration Tool Releases Server 5.0 - EIN Presswire | Apr 03 09:01 | |
techrights-news | "The U.S. Supreme Court will review a ruling that an Andy Warhol print infringed a photo of Prince as it weighs non-software fair use for the first time in decades." https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/warhol-prince-photo-case-brings-fair-use-debate-to-high-court | Apr 03 09:02 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE | Apr 03 09:02 | |
techrights-news | "Apps" became synonymous with surveillance https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2022/04/03/with-mysejahtera-in-the-spotlight-experts-say-scrutiny-definitely-needed-to/2051225 | Apr 03 09:03 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malaymail.com | With MySejahtera in the spotlight, experts say scrutiny definitely needed to ensure data properly utilised | Malaysia | Malay Mail | Apr 03 09:03 | |
techrights-news | Energy wasting. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/meet-btrusts-abubakar-nur-khalil-africas-bitcoin-innovation-savior | Apr 03 09:04 |
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techrights-news | Peak Employment???? The US economy collapsed, but Wall Street Times wants the population to be in denial about it. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/business/dealbook/jobs-numbers-employment.html | Apr 03 09:04 |
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techrights-news | Will Facial Recognition Technologies hasten our descent to a mass surveillance State? - TheLeaflet ⚓ https://theleaflet.in/will-facial-recognition-technologies-hasten-our-descent-to-a-mass-surveillance-state/ ䷉ Source: theleaflet | Apr 03 09:05 |
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techrights-news | They are not "crypto"; this has nothing to do with crypto https://www.businessinsider.com/check-out-the-28-crypto-startups-y-combinator-latest-batch-2022-3?r=US&IR=T | Apr 03 09:06 |
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techrights-news | US colleges controlled by the Pentagon by financial means https://www2.lehigh.edu/news/lehigh-and-the-us-army-research-lab-announce-25-million-cooperative-agreement-to-develop-next | Apr 03 09:07 |
techrights-news | McKinsey has its own big share of scandals. Nobody should take McKinsey’s advice. https://fortune.com/2022/04/01/mckinsey-rules-building-effective-team-support-cfo/ | Apr 03 09:08 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Apr 03 09:08 |
techrights-news | It's not free. They spy on you and more. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/charter-joins-verizon-comcast-offering-free-internet-acp-participants | Apr 03 09:09 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Charter joins Verizon, Comcast in offering free internet for ACP participants | Fierce Telecom | Apr 03 09:09 | |
techrights-news | "Sage Invest in Progress" = patronising race card to make PR stunts https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/31/2413945/0/en/Sage-and-The-BOSS-Network-announce-35-awardees-of-the-2022-Sage-Invest-in-Progress-grants.html | Apr 03 09:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Sage and The BOSS Network announce 35 awardees of the 2022 | Apr 03 09:10 | |
techrights-news | World Wide Web: Definition, history and facts | Live Science ⚓ https://www.livescience.com/world-wide-web ䷉ Source: livescience | Apr 03 09:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livescience.com | World Wide Web: Definition, history and facts | Live Science | Apr 03 09:10 | |
techrights-news | Zlib crash-an-app bug finally squashed, 17 years later https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/zlib_data_bug/ | Apr 03 09:23 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Zlib crash-an-app bug finally squashed, 17 years later • The Register | Apr 03 09:23 | |
techrights-news | Facebook has no reasons to even exist https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-tiktok-targeted-victory | Apr 03 09:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta paid for a smear campaign against TikTok - Protocol | Apr 03 09:24 | |
techrights-news | LinkedIn is dying. Microsoft too. There are layoffs in both. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/linkedin-instagram-creator-tools also Epstein links: http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/ | Apr 03 09:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinkedIn adds new tools for creators - Protocol | Apr 03 09:25 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linked In to Pedophilia | Techrights | Apr 03 09:25 | |
techrights-news | Smmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart https://skarredghost.com/2022/03/30/mojo-vision-smart-contact-lenses-feature-complete/ nonssense and gimmicks | Apr 03 09:26 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skarredghost.com | Mojo Vision smart contact lenses are now "feature complete" - The Ghost Howls | Apr 03 09:26 | |
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techrights-news | FIDO Alliance = FIDO/FIDO2 cargo cult https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/3/prweb18584578.htm see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ | Apr 03 09:28 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | Vault Vision announces expanded security capabilities with OpenID Foundation and FIDO Alliance partnerships | Apr 03 09:28 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights | Apr 03 09:28 | |
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bnchs | this is to all the brave users out there | Apr 03 10:11 |
bnchs | https://files.catbox.moe/ypge4d.png | Apr 03 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/ypge4d.png ) | Apr 03 10:11 | |
bnchs | brave has a fingerprinting issue | Apr 03 10:12 |
bnchs | and because of this | Apr 03 10:12 |
bnchs | you can fingerprint users even on "tor mode" | Apr 03 10:13 |
bnchs | so the anonymity of tor is ruined | Apr 03 10:13 |
bnchs | of course, whats retarded is brave's mitigration of this fingerprint vulnerability | Apr 03 10:14 |
bnchs | they inserted a fake voice that was an alias to the first voice into the list | Apr 03 10:15 |
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techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▂▁▃▅▅▃▂▅▃▄▃▄█▁▅▆▇▆▆▃█▄█▁█▄▅▅▃▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 70.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂██▁▁▁▁█▃▃▁███▂▂▂▂█▃▁▄▇▁▁▁▃▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 120.28▕ swarm size (avg): 242.20 ⟲ | Apr 03 10:59 |
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DaemonFC | <bnchs> you can fingerprint users even on "tor mode" | Apr 03 11:16 |
DaemonFC | Because the underlying browser is Chromium, it's going to be basically impossible to try to defeat tracking. Tor Mode is bullshit. | Apr 03 11:17 |
DaemonFC | The Lake County Health Department would now rank #1 most hated government agency in the county, I'm certain, if anyone conducted a poll. And the Illinois State Department of Health would beat out IDOR. | Apr 03 11:18 |
DaemonFC | For years, at the federal level, the most despised government agency was the IRS. Now I'm sure it would be the CDC. | Apr 03 11:19 |
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DaemonFC | It's funny how when people lose everything like this, that those people stop caring what the taxes would be like if they were to still have a job. | Apr 03 11:19 |
DaemonFC | The whole COVID pandemic was a smokescreen to implement Agenda 21. | Apr 03 11:20 |
DaemonFC | Even as people come out of the stupor of the last two years, they find that they still can't afford to leave the house or do much due to hyperinflation that's especially hitting food, and gas prices. | Apr 03 11:20 |
DaemonFC | I have no doubt the virus was real. "Sustainable development" includes population control. | Apr 03 11:21 |
DaemonFC | A small fraction of that is deliberately murdering the elderly and the infirm with the virus, and then most of the rest is making people unable to afford children, or sterile due to the side effects of the vaccines. | Apr 03 11:21 |
DaemonFC | The government controls the fertility statistics. | Apr 03 11:22 |
DaemonFC | They can just keep saying people don't have many children and nobody really knows why. "Maybe it's the economy." while they fry their reproductive system over and over again with "boosters". | Apr 03 11:23 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Bill Gates was giving a speech the other day. He said Omicron was unfortunate due to the fact that it appears to give much better immunity than the vaccines and was so mild that it blew through in a month and then has mostly gone away. | Apr 03 11:24 |
DaemonFC | All that lost revenue.... | Apr 03 11:24 |
DaemonFC | It's not just the COVID shots that do reproductive harm. | Apr 03 11:25 |
DaemonFC | There's obviously been agents in the food and drinking water for some time that do that too. | Apr 03 11:25 |
DaemonFC | The count and quality of male semen has been in severe decline over the past 40 years or so in the United States. I'm pretty sure other developed countries. They're doing something to us. | Apr 03 11:26 |
DaemonFC | It's "managing the herd". | Apr 03 11:26 |
DaemonFC | Maybe they don't even have to add agents to do that. Maybe they just cause poor people to subsist on ramen noodles instead of fresh vegetables and high quality protein sources because they can't afford a proper diet anymore. | Apr 03 11:27 |
DaemonFC | I don't know who would buy this meat substitute crap Bill Gates is invested in. It's always going to have an off putting taste about it. | Apr 03 11:28 |
DaemonFC | They can't seem to mask it no matter what they do, and the stuff is much much worse than ground beef. They toss in loads of salt. It's anything but natural. | Apr 03 11:29 |
DaemonFC | "Europe turned out to be the continent where LA21 was best accepted and most implemented.[9]" (Local Agenda 21) | Apr 03 11:30 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, and activelow is broke. | Apr 03 11:30 |
DaemonFC | Agenda 21. $10 a gallon gas and food bills 2.5 times as high as the US. | Apr 03 11:30 |
DaemonFC | Biden's sure trying to make up for lost time though. | Apr 03 11:31 |
DaemonFC | "A June 2012 poll of 1,300 United States voters by the American Planning Association found that 9% supported Agenda 21, 6% opposed it, and 85% thought they didn't have enough information to form an opinion.[16]" | Apr 03 11:32 |
DaemonFC | The poll probably did not mention the United Nations or anything about Agenda 21's goal of reducing living standards. | Apr 03 11:32 |
DaemonFC | And the UN doesn't go out of their way to make it clear what Agenda 21 really is. | Apr 03 11:32 |
DaemonFC | Just mentioning the United Nations in the poll would be enough to throw most of the undecideds against it. It's like Microsoft and Coca Cola. They keep their branding off GitHub and orange juice, because they don't want people to know. | Apr 03 11:33 |
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bnchs__ | <DaemonFC> Because the underlying browser is Chromium, it's going to be basically impossible to try to defeat tracking. Tor Mode is bullshit. | Apr 03 11:35 |
bnchs__ | yes | Apr 03 11:35 |
bnchs__ | the browser stands out like a sore thumb among other tor users | Apr 03 11:35 |
bnchs__ | i don't know how brave thought of implementing tor in their browser | Apr 03 11:35 |
DaemonFC | "There's a country where 12% of the population has to hide from right-wing fascists in the government. They come wearing costumes and flashing badges. It's all very official. When they find the people they are looking to arrest, they put them on trucks and take them to internment camps where they're given a bar code. Once there, they have no idea what will happen to them next. Many die in the camps, and some are raped by guards, including the | Apr 03 11:36 |
DaemonFC | children. The majority of the population of this country doesn't want to know what happens in the camps and tells you to think happy happy thoughts instead." | Apr 03 11:36 |
DaemonFC | It's not Nazi Germany in the 1930s. It's America now. And the people who don't want to feel guilty are not German, they're my parents. | Apr 03 11:37 |
bnchs__ | there's a website | Apr 03 11:37 |
DaemonFC | mjg59_, What's your opinion on GitHub (Microsoft) collaborating with these folks? (I.C.E.) | Apr 03 11:38 |
bnchs__ | browserleaks.neocities.org | Apr 03 11:38 |
bnchs__ | it performs fingerprint tests in brave browser | Apr 03 11:38 |
DaemonFC | mjg59_, Do you still use it? | Apr 03 11:38 |
bnchs__ | using a fingerprint vulnerability found in SpeechSynthesis | Apr 03 11:38 |
bnchs__ | to this day, brave hasn't fixed it | Apr 03 11:38 |
bnchs__ | to this day, you can still fingerprint across tor mode and regular mode | Apr 03 11:38 |
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bnchs__ | https://browserleaks.neocities.org/brave/SpeechSynthesis.html | Apr 03 11:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browserleaks.neocities.org | SpeechSynthesis - Brave | Apr 03 11:40 | |
bnchs__ | i'm pretty sure tor browser's solution to this problem would be.... | Apr 03 11:44 |
bnchs__ | disabling speechsynthesis entirely | Apr 03 11:44 |
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bnchs__ | "if you've seen this tiktok" | Apr 03 11:55 |
bnchs__ | who calls videos "tiktok" | Apr 03 11:55 |
bnchs__ | thats like calling videos hosted on youtube "youtube" | Apr 03 11:55 |
bnchs__ | "if you've seen this youtube" | Apr 03 11:55 |
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bnchs__ | https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013225752/http://www.microsoft.com:80/corpinfo/bill-g/column/1996essay/censorship.htm | Apr 03 12:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Searching for middle ground in online censorship | Apr 03 12:03 | |
bnchs__ | bill gates essay about internet censorship | Apr 03 12:03 |
bnchs__ | schestowitz: whats the code to your anti-cloudflare IRC bot | Apr 03 12:12 |
DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4TPzosgrQA | Apr 03 12:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H4TPzosgrQA | Apr 03 12:15 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | 10 Used-Cars to AVOID for BAD Engine - as per Consumer Reports - Invidious | Apr 03 12:15 | |
DaemonFC | Many are KIA or Hyundai. | Apr 03 12:15 |
DaemonFC | Big pieces of shit. | Apr 03 12:15 |
DaemonFC | Engine fires nd cheap engine bearings just causing the thing to fail with a grinding noise at some point. | Apr 03 12:15 |
DaemonFC | There's a BMW on there. He says the engine usually fails before it reaches 100,000 miles. | Apr 03 12:16 |
bnchs__ | should you replace web.archive.org | Apr 03 12:16 |
bnchs__ | with https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/? | Apr 03 12:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Time Travel | Apr 03 12:16 | |
bnchs__ | this website searches hundreds of archives | Apr 03 12:17 |
bnchs__ | for a Memento (basically a web archive moment) | Apr 03 12:18 |
bnchs__ | of that site | Apr 03 12:18 |
bnchs__ | like searx | Apr 03 12:18 |
bnchs__ | ok here's an example | Apr 03 12:20 |
bnchs__ | http://timetravel.mementoweb.org/list/20190224060626/http://google.com | Apr 03 12:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Mementos for http://google.com around 2019-02-24: http://mementoweb.org/list/20190224120609/http://google.com #memento - | Apr 03 12:20 | |
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DaemonFC | https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-halts-gas-shipments-europe-critical-pipeline | Apr 03 12:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gazprom Halts Gas Shipments To Europe Via Critical Pipeline | ZeroHedge | Apr 03 12:34 | |
DaemonFC | Article says Gazprom cut off supplies to the UK, but I've seen figures that say that the UK doesn't import any Russian gas. | Apr 03 12:34 |
bnchs__ | https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/2022/http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-halts-gas-shipments-europe-critical-pipeline | Apr 03 12:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Gazprom Halts Gas Shipments To Europe Via Critical Pipeline | ZeroHedge | Apr 03 12:38 | |
bnchs__ | test API | Apr 03 12:38 |
bnchs__ | it redirects to web.archive.org (because it's the only archive that has archived this URL) | Apr 03 12:38 |
DaemonFC | https://www.wsj.com/articles/positive-drug-tests-among-u-s-workers-hit-two-decade-high-11648603800 | Apr 03 12:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Positive Drug Tests Among U.S. Workers Hit Two-Decade High - WSJ | Apr 03 12:42 | |
DaemonFC | Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it. | Apr 03 12:43 |
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bnchs__ | " The Coalition to Stop Net Censorship asked everyone, everywhere, to turn their World Wide Web pages black for 48 hours after Clinton signed the bill to show just how many people would be affected by the bill. It was a tremendous show of support. We thank everyone who helped out. " | Apr 03 12:44 |
bnchs__ | back when the Communications Decency Act was signed | Apr 03 12:44 |
bnchs__ | pages turned black | Apr 03 12:44 |
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techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▃▂▂▅▆▁▁▇▅▂▄▇▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▆▂▃▂▁█▅▃▃▃▄▂▇▁ avg(k/sec) 50.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▃▄▇▁▇█▂▂▁▁▂▃██▁▁▁▁▃▄█▆█▁▁▁▂▅▆▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 84.20▕ swarm size (avg): 257.31 ⟲ | Apr 03 12:59 |
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techrights-news | Green Party Renews Calls for Green New Deal in State Budget https://howiehawkins.us/green-party-renews-calls-for-green-new-deal-in-state-budget/ | Apr 03 13:20 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Green Party Renews Calls for Green New Deal in State Budget | Howie Hawkins for our Future | Apr 03 13:20 | |
techrights-news | Xfce’s Apps Update for March 2022: New Releases of Orange, Xfdashboard, Xfce Terminal • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163302 | Apr 03 13:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce’s Apps Update for March 2022: New Releases of Orange, Xfdashboard, Xfce Terminal | Tux Machines | Apr 03 13:20 | |
techrights-news | Today I got so tired doing the 3-hour video that I had to stop halfway, go take a nap, then resume with a part 2 over an hour later. First time this happens. | Apr 03 13:29 |
bnchs__ | should you really record for 3 hours? | Apr 03 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | it's more time-efficient if done in one go | Apr 03 13:40 |
bnchs__ | well ok | Apr 03 13:41 |
bnchs__ | i wanted to ask you wheres the code for the altlink bot | Apr 03 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | if I have two files, I need to encode twice | Apr 03 13:41 |
immibis | DaemonFC: do you or do you not believe in liberty? | Apr 03 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | the process is mostly automated though, it's just that it needs to be invoked twice | Apr 03 13:41 |
bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR: do you ever encode multi-threaded? | Apr 03 13:41 |
bnchs__ | and/or use hardware encoding? | Apr 03 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: it's with ffmpeg | Apr 03 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | it uses up all the cpu cores | Apr 03 13:42 |
bnchs__ | really? | Apr 03 13:42 |
bnchs__ | oh ffmpeg uses multi-threading by default | Apr 03 13:43 |
schestowitz-TR | I wanted to distribute the load across multiple machines, but found no tools to do this with ffmpeg | Apr 03 13:43 |
schestowitz-TR | unless you split the file and reassemble from different nodes/machines at the end | Apr 03 13:43 |
schestowitz-TR | one minute of video can be 24x60 frames | Apr 03 13:44 |
immibis | you don't want to split by frames because you'll get non-optimal keyframes | Apr 03 13:44 |
immibis | maybe it's possible to run one pass to decide on keyframes and then encode each section | Apr 03 13:44 |
schestowitz-TR | that's 86.4k frames an hour | Apr 03 13:45 |
schestowitz-TR | immibis: or buy a monster machine for like 20,000 $ lol | Apr 03 13:45 |
bnchs__ | ll | Apr 03 13:45 |
schestowitz-TR | which would be idle like 99% of the time | Apr 03 13:45 |
immibis | this is actually an ideal use case for clown | Apr 03 13:45 |
bnchs__ | how do you plan to split load across machines | Apr 03 13:45 |
immibis | if you want a monster machine for like 5 minutes | Apr 03 13:46 |
bnchs__ | you might aswell just buy like 16 CPUs | Apr 03 13:46 |
bnchs__ | and insert them all in one motherboard | Apr 03 13:46 |
bnchs__ | maybe 32 | Apr 03 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | I have here 4,4,2,2,2,2 CPU cores | Apr 03 13:46 |
immibis | 32-socket motherboards do not exist | Apr 03 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | total 16 | Apr 03 13:46 |
immibis | If you want cores have a look on ebay or ewaste recyclers for servers. I was seeing ~$500 for iirc 16-core dual socket machines. | Apr 03 13:47 |
immibis | (16 cores in total) | Apr 03 13:48 |
immibis | older generation ones | Apr 03 13:48 |
bnchs__ | well i guess | Apr 03 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | these longer videos are now urgent | Apr 03 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't mind the laptop going for 10 hours | Apr 03 13:48 |
immibis | also i'm serious when I say that renting a monster machine for 5 minutes is an ideal use case for clown | Apr 03 13:49 |
schestowitz-TR | i just distribute the tasks across to other machine | Apr 03 13:49 |
schestowitz-TR | but anyway, next time I won't start doing a long video after just 4 hours of sleep | Apr 03 13:49 |
*XRevan86 spent way too much time debunking Russian propaganda regarding the Bucha massacre. | Apr 03 13:49 | |
bnchs__ | immibis, should you really use it? | Apr 03 13:49 |
XRevan86 | Their attempts at murking the truth are pathetic. | Apr 03 13:50 |
immibis | bnchs__: does it do what you want for a reasonable price? | Apr 03 13:51 |
bnchs__ | and? | Apr 03 13:51 |
bnchs__ | how do you get the data back | Apr 03 13:51 |
bnchs__ | and what if the conversion takes more than 5 minutes | Apr 03 13:52 |
immibis | bnchs__: you download it? | Apr 03 13:53 |
immibis | and if it takes longer than 5 minutes you rent it for more than 5 minutes? | Apr 03 13:53 |
immibis | have you ever used clown computing? | Apr 03 13:53 |
bnchs__ | no i actually buy computers | Apr 03 13:54 |
bnchs__ | immibis, ok what if you wanna install a different OS in the clozn | Apr 03 13:55 |
immibis | bnchs__: throw it away and get a new one | Apr 03 13:57 |
immibis | bnchs__: the saying "cattle, not pets" applies | Apr 03 13:57 |
*psydroid2 would build a private clown | Apr 03 13:58 | |
bnchs__ | well i don't wanna use the clown | Apr 03 13:58 |
psydroid2 | *create | Apr 03 13:58 |
immibis | bnchs__: even if you don't like clown it seems a bit shortsighted to artificially restrict your horizons. All major clowns give you free trials of one sort or another | Apr 03 13:58 |
immibis | you may as well know how it works | Apr 03 13:58 |
immibis | psydroid2: people do that, although if you only have a couple of servers, it seems silly. Sometimes it leads to people using stupid numbers of VMs/containers just to justify their private clown | Apr 03 13:58 |
bnchs__ | what if i wanna do processing offline | Apr 03 13:59 |
immibis | like turning their website into microservices | Apr 03 13:59 |
immibis | bnchs__: then you can't use clown, because by definition it is someone else's server that you access through the internet | Apr 03 13:59 |
bnchs__ | so basically | Apr 03 13:59 |
bnchs__ | internet outage (which is everytime here) | Apr 03 13:59 |
immibis | can you upload videos during an internet outage? | Apr 03 13:59 |
bnchs__ | means no access to the clown? | Apr 03 13:59 |
psydroid2 | immibis, I wouldn't do that, I would just share my private clown with my friends | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | lol upload speed 0.5KB/s | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | clown would be retarded with that kind of speed | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | might aswell just buy a server | Apr 03 14:00 |
immibis | bnchs__: do you even know what the context for this conversation is? | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | processing videos | Apr 03 14:00 |
immibis | it wasn't bitcoin mining. it was processing videos to upload | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | but first you have to upload the video | Apr 03 14:00 |
bnchs__ | with shit speed and constant outage | Apr 03 14:00 |
immibis | in fact, if your upload speed is that terrible, it will probably be FASTER uploading one copy and then processing it on someone else's server | Apr 03 14:00 |
immibis | (assuming the goal is to generate multiple copies in different formats, and not to compress the first copy) | Apr 03 14:01 |
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bnchs__ | and i wasn't talking about bitcoin mining | Apr 03 14:02 |
MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13423ymAjFg | Apr 03 14:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=13423ymAjFg | Apr 03 14:02 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Pink nosed cat with a weird meow and her friends are so cute - Invidious | Apr 03 14:02 | |
techrights-news | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree - kbuild: Make $(LLVM) more flexible ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e9c281928c24dfeb86b11c31b53757b6a127f8aa ䷉ Source: git | Apr 03 14:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Apr 03 14:20 | |
techrights-news | GNU Coreutils under attack from Microsoft (criminals) GitHub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-uutils-0.0.13 | Apr 03 14:20 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-uutils-0.0.13 | Apr 03 14:20 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uutils 0.0.13 Released For GNU Coreutils Replacement In Rust - Phoronix | Apr 03 14:20 | |
techrights-news | Claws Mail 3.19.0 and 4.1.0 unleashed • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163303 | Apr 03 14:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Claws Mail 3.19.0 and 4.1.0 unleashed | Tux Machines | Apr 03 14:21 | |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT pull] x86/urgent for v5.18-rc1 - Thomas Gleixner | Apr 03 14:22 | |
techrights-news | Slackware-current: "My repository now contains a new set of libreoffice-7.3.2 packages for Slackware 15.0 and -current." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/libreoffice-7-3-2-ungoogled-chromium-100/ | Apr 03 14:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Libreoffice 7.3.2, Ungoogled-Chromium 100 | Alien Pastures | Apr 03 14:23 | |
techrights-news | Worried That Your Phone Is Spying On You? Try A Different OS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163304 | Apr 03 14:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Worried That Your Phone Is Spying On You? Try A Different OS | Tux Machines | Apr 03 14:28 | |
bnchs__ | schestowitz: i know i asked this alot, but wheres the source code for altlink_63e | Apr 03 14:29 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-👍 https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/214 | Apr 03 14:29 | |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2203301 | Apr 03 14:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ZAve2X9.jpg created on 2022-03-30 00:20:57.325961 | Apr 03 14:29 | |
bnchs__ | wtf it made an issue? | Apr 03 14:29 |
bnchs__ | god damn it | Apr 03 14:30 |
techrights-news | Lightning talk: Volunteering at the FSF https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talk-volunteering-at-the-fsf/ | Apr 03 14:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | Lightning talk: Volunteering at the FSF — GNU MediaGoblin | Apr 03 14:31 | |
techrights-news | "A lightning talk is a five-minute presentation on any topic that you think would be interesting to a group of free software users, hackers, and activists. Anyone can give a lightning talk at LibrePlanet." https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talk-real-world-gnu-linux-story-from-istanbul/ | Apr 03 14:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | Lightning talk: Real world GNU/Linux story from Istanbul — GNU MediaGoblin | Apr 03 14:33 | |
matey | bnchs__ whats this about? | Apr 03 14:42 |
matey | /me is curious | Apr 03 14:42 |
MinceR | bnchs__: i think the people in #deCloudflare know | Apr 03 14:45 |
matey | mincer: ? | Apr 03 14:47 |
MinceR | matey: the bot that warns about crimeflare | Apr 03 14:48 |
matey | what happened to it | Apr 03 14:48 |
MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 03 14:48 |
matey | it isnt here anymore? | Apr 03 14:48 |
MinceR | apparently bnchs__ wants the source code | Apr 03 14:48 |
MinceR | it's here | Apr 03 14:49 |
matey | i usually ignore it, but im not against it | Apr 03 14:49 |
MinceR | and if its nick is mentioned, it makes an issue :> | Apr 03 14:49 |
matey | lol | Apr 03 14:49 |
matey | thats a very low-entry route to bug reports | Apr 03 14:49 |
MinceR | indeed | Apr 03 14:49 |
MinceR | must be annoying for the developers | Apr 03 14:49 |
matey | i mean they made it that way | Apr 03 14:50 |
matey | presumably its what they wanted | Apr 03 14:50 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 03 14:50 |
matey | "and i can BREAK you too!" dr frankenfurter | Apr 03 14:50 |
techrights-news | Matthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/ | Apr 03 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Matthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | Techrights | Apr 03 14:50 | |
bnchs__ | matey: uhhh | Apr 03 14:51 |
bnchs__ | i wanted the source code to altlink_*** | Apr 03 14:51 |
bnchs__ | and apparently | Apr 03 14:51 |
bnchs__ | made an issue because i mentioned it | Apr 03 14:51 |
bnchs__ | on the repo's issues | Apr 03 14:51 |
matey | seems like a non problem really | Apr 03 14:51 |
matey | you found the repo | Apr 03 14:52 |
bnchs__ | nah it didn't have it | Apr 03 14:52 |
matey | what? | Apr 03 14:52 |
matey | the issues are there but the source is not? | Apr 03 14:52 |
bnchs__ | lemme check with a quick search | Apr 03 14:52 |
matey | its a proprietary clown bot! | Apr 03 14:53 |
matey | /me ops himself and charges laser | Apr 03 14:53 |
matey | that is funny though, sort of | Apr 03 14:53 |
MinceR | imma chargin mah laser | Apr 03 14:53 |
bnchs__ | i don't know why would the dev make it so that it makes an issue automaitcally when you ping it | Apr 03 14:54 |
bnchs__ | that's just dumb | Apr 03 14:54 |
matey | its a very low entry route to bug reports | Apr 03 14:54 |
bnchs__ | yeah but just make it a PM | Apr 03 14:54 |
bnchs__ | or something | Apr 03 14:55 |
bnchs__ | not publicly | Apr 03 14:55 |
matey | if it were my bot | Apr 03 14:55 |
matey | i would have it tell the user: | Apr 03 14:55 |
bnchs__ | https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/blob/master/subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md | Apr 03 14:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mypdns.org | subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md · master · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLab | Apr 03 14:55 | |
bnchs__ | "You can find altlink_xxx only on: #techrights" | Apr 03 14:55 |
matey | "type 'confirm report' in the next 5 minutes to send previous mention of my irc handle to repo issues" | Apr 03 14:55 |
techrights-news | Add WiFi HaLow to Raspberry Pi with ALFA Network AHPI7292S HAT - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/03/add-wifi-halow-to-raspberry-pi-with-alfa-network-ahpi7292s-hat/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | Apr 03 14:56 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/03/add-wifi-halow-to-raspberry-pi-with-alfa-network-ahpi7292s-hat/ | Apr 03 14:56 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Add WiFi HaLow to Raspberry Pi with ALFA Network AHPI7292S HAT - CNX Software | Apr 03 14:56 | |
MinceR | got lions and tigers only in kenya | Apr 03 14:56 |
matey | oh my | Apr 03 14:56 |
bnchs__ | there's no source code | Apr 03 14:56 |
bnchs__ | even on https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/blob/master/subfiles/service.altlink.md | Apr 03 14:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mypdns.org | subfiles/service.altlink.md · master · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLab | Apr 03 14:56 | |
bnchs__ | no source code | Apr 03 14:56 |
MinceR | again, they have a channel on this network | Apr 03 14:56 |
matey | and the channel logs every post to it in issues :) | Apr 03 14:56 |
bnchs__ | nice | Apr 03 14:57 |
matey | im joking-- probably | Apr 03 14:57 |
matey | i mean it COULD | Apr 03 14:57 |
techrights-news | 5 Best Puzzle Games for Linux To Sharpen Your Intelligence ⚓ https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-puzzle-games-for-linux/ ䷉ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux | Apr 03 14:57 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-puzzle-games-for-linux/ | Apr 03 14:57 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 5 Best Puzzle Games for Linux To Sharpen Your Intelligence | Apr 03 14:57 | |
matey | not sure why it wouldnt, really :) except they probably log it separately | Apr 03 14:57 |
bnchs__ | MinceR: which is empty? | Apr 03 14:57 |
techrights-news | Qt 6.3 Promises Improved Wayland Support with Custom Shell Extensions [Dev update] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163305 | Apr 03 14:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt 6.3 Promises Improved Wayland Support with Custom Shell Extensions [Dev update] | Tux Machines | Apr 03 14:58 | |
matey | does it have the bot at least? | Apr 03 14:58 |
matey | the bot probably logs | Apr 03 14:58 |
matey | if its the only thing there | Apr 03 14:58 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▂▂▇▁▂▅▁▄▄▅▃▆▁▃▂▃▄▃▃▁▅▂▁█▃▅▅▂▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 16.30 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁██▂▁█▁▂▃▂▁▁▁▁█▂▃▁██▁▁▄▂▂▂▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 98.00▕ swarm size (avg): 244.68 ⟲ | Apr 03 14:59 |
bnchs__ | roy uhhhh can you explain? | Apr 03 14:59 |
bnchs__ | why is this one bot that has no source code? | Apr 03 14:59 |
matey | /me is curious why roy would know | Apr 03 15:00 |
bnchs__ | i mean i wanted to modify it a bit | Apr 03 15:01 |
matey | as far as i know the bot is about as understood to us as the monolith in 2001 / 2010 | Apr 03 15:01 |
matey | <bnchs__> i mean i wanted to modify it a bit <- thats entirely reasonable | Apr 03 15:01 |
bnchs__ | and see how it detected cloudflare | Apr 03 15:01 |
matey | hmm | Apr 03 15:02 |
matey | if i was trying to detect cloudflare, i would use two approaches | Apr 03 15:02 |
matey | the bot may have a better method | Apr 03 15:02 |
bnchs__ | yeah thats why i'm interested in it | Apr 03 15:03 |
matey | i would use the following two approaches and either one of course would trip the detection flag (OR logic) | Apr 03 15:03 |
matey | the first pass would try to grab the page with torsocks. if it got the captcha, cloudflare confirmed | Apr 03 15:03 |
schestowitz | altlink is nor our bot | Apr 03 15:03 |
schestowitz | it's free sofrware | Apr 03 15:03 |
schestowitz | I cannot recall the URL | Apr 03 15:03 |
schestowitz | it's run by ciphrCat | Apr 03 15:03 |
matey | free software without source code | Apr 03 15:03 |
bnchs__ | oh i get it | Apr 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | I did not check | Apr 03 15:04 |
schestowitz | scrolling up, I see you've pulled the URL already | Apr 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | I remember seeing config files or code | Apr 03 15:05 |
matey | ciphrcat is logged in, but has been idle for 202765 seconds? (does the math to see if thats plausible) | Apr 03 15:05 |
matey | or code | Apr 03 15:05 |
matey | o rnot | Apr 03 15:05 |
schestowitz | maybe there are multiple repos/sites | Apr 03 15:05 |
bnchs__ | the URL (decloudflare) doesn't really have the source code i think | Apr 03 15:06 |
matey | 202765 seconds is 140 dys | Apr 03 15:06 |
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matey | thats a lot of idle | Apr 03 15:06 |
schestowitz | seems wrong | Apr 03 15:06 |
matey | also a really solid connection | Apr 03 15:06 |
schestowitz | I recall him saying something weeks ago | Apr 03 15:06 |
matey | /me shrugs | Apr 03 15:06 |
bnchs__ | hmm lemme check again | Apr 03 15:07 |
schestowitz | best to ask ciphrCat | Apr 03 15:07 |
schestowitz | i used to think he was french, seems belgian (close enough) | Apr 03 15:07 |
schestowitz | usually lurking | Apr 03 15:07 |
matey | maybe hes a chef | Apr 03 15:07 |
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matey | could be canadian | Apr 03 15:08 |
matey | they have chefs in canada i think | Apr 03 15:08 |
bnchs__ | the repo doesn't have any source code related to altlink | Apr 03 15:09 |
bnchs__ | only documents and examples of it | Apr 03 15:09 |
matey | just an old copy of nethack | Apr 03 15:10 |
bnchs__ | and judging from this bot being hosted by another user | Apr 03 15:10 |
bnchs__ | are you sure it's free software? | Apr 03 15:10 |
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matey | and something by a guy named "flynn" | Apr 03 15:10 |
matey | space paranoids | Apr 03 15:10 |
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techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163306 | Apr 03 15:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 03 15:12 | |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamOS 3.0, Steam Deck, and 5 Best Puzzle Games | Tux Machines | Apr 03 15:12 | |
matey | it was modified to create the early versions of systemd | Apr 03 15:12 |
matey | originally called "mcp" but it doesnt say what it stands for | Apr 03 15:13 |
bnchs__ | i could reverse engineer the bot | Apr 03 15:13 |
matey | how? is there a binary? | Apr 03 15:13 |
bnchs__ | because the documentations don't say anything about how it works | Apr 03 15:13 |
bnchs__ | matey: test it with a few | Apr 03 15:13 |
bnchs__ | URLs* | Apr 03 15:13 |
matey | wow | Apr 03 15:14 |
matey | youd still be closed off to the bulk of useful output | Apr 03 15:14 |
matey | like what it tries to connect to | Apr 03 15:14 |
bnchs__ | yeah thats the problem | Apr 03 15:14 |
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bnchs__ | lemme guess | Apr 03 15:15 |
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matey | if you had a binary you could try decompiling or runnign strace | Apr 03 15:15 |
bnchs__ | gitlab.com | Apr 03 15:15 |
bnchs__ | https://gitlab.com/ | Apr 03 15:15 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gitlab.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gitlab.com/ | Apr 03 15:15 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-about.gitlab.com | NO TITLE | Apr 03 15:15 | |
matey | which is technically illegal i guess if you write code based on it | Apr 03 15:15 |
bnchs__ | matey: obviously what i'm doing is guessing how it works | Apr 03 15:15 |
bnchs__ | clean room reverse engineering | Apr 03 15:16 |
matey | mmhmm | Apr 03 15:16 |
matey | im not casting any aspersions on your methods, only on my own "suggestions" | Apr 03 15:16 |
bnchs__ | yes | Apr 03 15:16 |
matey | if it were under an mit license at least | Apr 03 15:17 |
matey | maybe you could "dirty room" rev engineer it without any worries | Apr 03 15:17 |
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matey | ive never heard of such a thing, and im not a lawyer, so this is speculation | Apr 03 15:17 |
bnchs__ | i'm guessing that it's looking up the DNS domain and see if it routes to cloudflare servers | Apr 03 15:18 |
matey | well that was the other method i was going to suggest | Apr 03 15:18 |
matey | get the ip | Apr 03 15:18 |
matey | then try to access it directly | Apr 03 15:19 |
matey | and if its clownflare the computer will say no | Apr 03 15:19 |
matey | just a guess | Apr 03 15:19 |
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matey | this way you dont need a hardcoded list of clownflare addresses | Apr 03 15:20 |
matey | you go based on the response | Apr 03 15:20 |
matey | but if its trivial to get a full list of their addresses, theres no problem with that | Apr 03 15:21 |
matey | youd just have to update it from time to time | Apr 03 15:21 |
bnchs__ | matey: useful resource: https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/ | Apr 03 15:24 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: selesti.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/ | Apr 03 15:24 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/ ) | Apr 03 15:24 | |
bnchs__ | it seems like this site checks more than just DNS and SSL | Apr 03 15:24 |
bnchs__ | it checks the HTTP headers for cloudflare-related shit | Apr 03 15:24 |
matey | hmm | Apr 03 15:25 |
matey | i wouldnt have thought of that | Apr 03 15:25 |
bnchs__ | the DNS lookup also relies on checking the nameservers | Apr 03 15:25 |
bnchs__ | if it detects cloudflare nameservers like becky.ns.cloudflare.com | Apr 03 15:26 |
bnchs__ | so there's a few things | Apr 03 15:27 |
matey | what are you going to do with it | Apr 03 15:27 |
bnchs__ | 1. do a NS lookup on the domain, check for cloudflare-related nameservers 2. access the site 3. check the HTTP headers and SSL certificate | Apr 03 15:28 |
matey | id make a list of websites that dont use cf | Apr 03 15:28 |
bnchs__ | taking notes | Apr 03 15:28 |
bnchs__ | maybe i would cache the list | Apr 03 15:28 |
bnchs__ | for a week or something | Apr 03 15:28 |
matey | why a week? | Apr 03 15:28 |
matey | it would be cool to have a list of websites that dont use cf or some other crap like bitchninja or suckuri firewall | Apr 03 15:29 |
matey | the ncurses guy uses suckuri, its annoying | Apr 03 15:29 |
bnchs__ | heres the thing | Apr 03 15:30 |
bnchs__ | what if the site stops using cloudflare | Apr 03 15:30 |
matey | sourcefudge is getting increasingly aggressive against anonymised visitors, but its still trivial to get around | Apr 03 15:30 |
bnchs__ | you would indefinitely cache the list | Apr 03 15:30 |
bnchs__ | you would just check the domain after a week | Apr 03 15:31 |
bnchs__ | just in case | Apr 03 15:31 |
bnchs__ | wouldn't indefinitely* | Apr 03 15:31 |
matey | you would indefinitely cache the list <- i wouldnt check it every week | Apr 03 15:31 |
matey | maybe every couple months or a few times a year | Apr 03 15:31 |
matey | i dont think admins have a change of heart that often | Apr 03 15:31 |
bnchs__ | ok what if they do | Apr 03 15:31 |
matey | i think youre wasting a lot of processing power but its yours to do what you want with so | Apr 03 15:32 |
bnchs__ | well ok | Apr 03 15:32 |
matey | im talking about efficiency, youre talking about accuracy. either approach has merits | Apr 03 15:32 |
bnchs__ | lets raise it up | Apr 03 15:32 |
matey | i wouldnt try to tell you to do it my way | Apr 03 15:32 |
bnchs__ | maybe every couple of months right? | Apr 03 15:32 |
matey | sure, thats a good number i guess | Apr 03 15:32 |
bnchs__ | i wanna replace the hardcoded web.archive.org link to something | Apr 03 15:34 |
bnchs__ | something like https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/ | Apr 03 15:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Time Travel | Apr 03 15:34 | |
matey | is that a thing? | Apr 03 15:34 |
bnchs__ | yeah it's like searx but for archives | Apr 03 15:34 |
matey | ooohhh | Apr 03 15:34 |
bnchs__ | it would be better | Apr 03 15:35 |
matey | im getting pretty tired of ias shit really | Apr 03 15:35 |
matey | theyre fsf-ing themselves | Apr 03 15:35 |
bnchs__ | here's an example | Apr 03 15:36 |
bnchs__ | http://timetravel.mementoweb.org/list/20141202233330/http://google.com | Apr 03 15:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Mementos for http://google.com around 2014-12-02: http://mementoweb.org/list/20141202220550/http://google.com #memento - | Apr 03 15:36 | |
schestowitz-TR | ias? | Apr 03 15:36 |
matey | but given the size of their collection of course i hope for better | Apr 03 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | ia? | Apr 03 15:36 |
matey | internet archive, possessive, minus apostrophes | Apr 03 15:36 |
bnchs__ | archives closest to december 2nd 2014 | Apr 03 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | ia is still great | Apr 03 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | but could always improve | Apr 03 15:36 |
matey | its a wonderful collection | Apr 03 15:36 |
bnchs__ | it's sorted from the earilest to the oldest | Apr 03 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | it was mentioned in libreplanet | Apr 03 15:36 |
matey | well imo theyve been a bit full of shit for a couple years | Apr 03 15:37 |
matey | it was mentioned in libreplanet <- that doesnt help | Apr 03 15:37 |
schestowitz | in this talk http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/ | Apr 03 15:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | Techrights | Apr 03 15:37 | |
matey | the founder was a keynote speaker | Apr 03 15:37 |
matey | a year or two ago | Apr 03 15:37 |
bnchs__ | IA has been a little slow latey | Apr 03 15:37 |
bnchs__ | lately* | Apr 03 15:37 |
matey | kahle | Apr 03 15:37 |
matey | brewster | Apr 03 15:37 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, they hasd technical difficulties | Apr 03 15:37 |
matey | a few years ago, the archive stopped being as nice to use | Apr 03 15:38 |
matey | they changed something | Apr 03 15:38 |
bnchs__ | i also hate their ebook DRM | Apr 03 15:38 |
psydroid2 | altlink_63e is really full of shit too, isn't it? | Apr 03 15:38 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-👍 https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/215 | Apr 03 15:38 | |
matey | <bnchs__> i also hate their ebook DRM <- i hate the entire organisation for their ebook drm | Apr 03 15:38 |
bnchs__ | also their iframe version doesn't work well | Apr 03 15:38 |
matey | i understand why they did it, i forgive it partly, but refuse to excuse it fully | Apr 03 15:38 |
matey | iframes are from the devil | Apr 03 15:38 |
bnchs__ | all of the (internet archive links) point to the regular versin | Apr 03 15:38 |
MinceR | bnchs__: dunno, /list told me it had 7 users | Apr 03 15:39 |
schestowitz-TR | i herad about their book drm, did not look into it to understand or verify, it does raise concerns about their direction | Apr 03 15:39 |
bnchs__ | matey: iframe version is because i hate the IA javascript and shit | Apr 03 15:39 |
*psydroid2 wonders how much of the web is actually worth saving | Apr 03 15:39 | |
matey | did not look into it to understand or verify <- libraries + drm = !libraries | Apr 03 15:39 |
schestowitz-TR | and makes you wonder if there are forces/pressures in play outside plain sight | Apr 03 15:39 |
bnchs__ | using the iframe version meant that the IA-replaced links point to the regular version anyway | Apr 03 15:39 |
bnchs__ | unlike other archives | Apr 03 15:39 |
matey | libraries since the dawn of commercial publishers and copyright, have existed at odds with publishers | Apr 03 15:39 |
matey | this isnt the libraries fault, as lending books actually INCREASES sales | Apr 03 15:40 |
matey | but publishers are dicks | Apr 03 15:40 |
matey | repeat: publishers are dicks | Apr 03 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | [15:38] <matey> iframes are from the devil | Apr 03 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | they are, BUT... | Apr 03 15:40 |
matey | the only thing that allows libraries to exist (because publishers have long sought to destroy them) is first sale doctrine | Apr 03 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | sometimes they're one way to dodge JS and spurious CSS | Apr 03 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | I can give examples | Apr 03 15:40 |
matey | dmca for example, negates first sale for anything with drm | Apr 03 15:41 |
bnchs__ | yes | Apr 03 15:41 |
matey | <schestowitz-TR> I can give examples <- i doubt i would care | Apr 03 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | ok | Apr 03 15:41 |
matey | drm poses an existential threat to libraries. | Apr 03 15:41 |
bnchs__ | like check out memento's API | Apr 03 15:41 |
matey | for ia to embrace drm is treachery at best | Apr 03 15:41 |
matey | they call themselves a library | Apr 03 15:41 |
bnchs__ | https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/20220304153500/http://techrights.org | Apr 03 15:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Welcome to Techrights | Apr 03 15:41 | |
matey | it used to be true. its sort of de facto true now | Apr 03 15:41 |
matey | theyre a library holding a gun to their own head | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | i still use the archive of course | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | but im NOT HAPPY about the direction theyre going in | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | it looks like sabotage from a few angles. | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | its a very important resource. | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | understatement | Apr 03 15:42 |
techrights-news | Where does wiki spam come from? gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-03_Where_does_wiki_spam_come_from%3F | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | alternatives are not a threat, but a boon | Apr 03 15:42 |
matey | of course it depends, like all things | Apr 03 15:43 |
matey | i know kahle believes hes doing the right thing | Apr 03 15:43 |
matey | but its a bit too close to what mozilla did with eme | Apr 03 15:44 |
matey | mozilla stood by while the internet got stabbed in the back | Apr 03 15:44 |
bnchs__ | still i wouldn't like the links to depend on IA only | Apr 03 15:44 |
matey | kahle stood by while the same things happened to the largest library online (afaik) | Apr 03 15:44 |
matey | its not good! | Apr 03 15:44 |
matey | he made the same blunder as mozilla imo-- maybe without any corruption | Apr 03 15:45 |
matey | but ia has other major issues, sort of complicated to explain | Apr 03 15:45 |
matey | go back in time and use ia then, youd see what i mean | Apr 03 15:45 |
matey | "omg this is so much better" | Apr 03 15:45 |
matey | theyre kneecapping it, whether because theyre hitting capacity (doubtful) or because of corruption (i wouldnt rule it out) or some other dumbfuck reason | Apr 03 15:46 |
techrights-news | "Interested in what people do instead of using Usenet, I looked at Internet Archive Schoolar. I haven't found nothing more relevant than paper from 2013." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 03 15:46 |
matey | and anyone who thinks theyre going to "unkneecap it" later is ignoring history | Apr 03 15:46 |
techrights-news | "I sent first posts to Usenet from almost 30 years. While looking for available nntp (text only) servers I found out something new" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 03 15:46 |
matey | this is a slope greased with graphene nanotube superlubricant | Apr 03 15:47 |
techrights-news | Is There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor Is There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor gemini://marginalia.nu/log/53-better-hard-drive-metaphor.gmi | Apr 03 15:47 |
matey | because its so bloody important i still hope for better, against the odds | Apr 03 15:47 |
matey | you can rebuild gnu, but if the ia is gone its fucking gone | Apr 03 15:48 |
matey | i suppose you could (very theoretically) mirror it | Apr 03 15:48 |
matey | that would be one fucking hell of a mirror | Apr 03 15:48 |
bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 03 15:48 |
bnchs__ | you gonna need thousands of hard drives | Apr 03 15:48 |
bnchs__ | and maybe ZFS | Apr 03 15:48 |
matey | bezos could do it, too bad hes evil and insane | Apr 03 15:49 |
techrights-news | "During that time of *integrity*, it was still the ones that came from families with money who were regarded as la creme de la creme." gemini://thurk.org/blog/552.gmi | Apr 03 15:49 |
bnchs__ | also memento is good for IA blacklisted websites | Apr 03 15:49 |
bnchs__ | like 4chan | Apr 03 15:49 |
matey | musk would fuck it up | Apr 03 15:49 |
matey | he would do everything right then change his mind before the launch | Apr 03 15:49 |
matey | musk was going to put photos of space in the public domain like nasa does | Apr 03 15:49 |
matey | then he was like na, fuck it-- pay me | Apr 03 15:50 |
bnchs__ | "This service is provided by the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Unfortunately, the URL you were searching for is blocked by our service, which means that no Mementos are returned in the result list. Please note, however, that it is entirely possible that Mementos exist in one or more publicly available web archives." | Apr 03 15:50 |
matey | motherfucker like you dont already get grants up the arse | Apr 03 15:50 |
bnchs__ | nevermind nevermind | Apr 03 15:50 |
matey | piece of subway-inventing skynet car building bullshit | Apr 03 15:50 |
techrights-news | "Last year for computers has died on me. Or rather, the USB-C card has died, which for a computer that charges with usb-c is the same as being dead." gemini://iveqy.com/gemlog/2022-04-03_evil_usb.gmi | Apr 03 15:50 |
matey | bnchs__ <- are you saying lanl runs the entire memento thing, just an instance, or just the website archived by it? | Apr 03 15:51 |
bnchs__ | no | Apr 03 15:51 |
bnchs__ | it's simply a search archive | Apr 03 15:51 |
matey | ok | Apr 03 15:52 |
bnchs__ | you can search for mementos without it | Apr 03 15:52 |
matey | alright | Apr 03 15:52 |
techrights-news | Claws Mail 4.1 Adds Text Zooming in the Message View, Many Other New Features • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163308 | Apr 03 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Claws Mail 4.1 Adds Text Zooming in the Message View, Many Other New Features | Tux Machines | Apr 03 15:53 | |
bnchs__ | like a search engine | Apr 03 15:53 |
matey | i got that but not the details | Apr 03 15:53 |
matey | i suppose i should look at it at some point :) | Apr 03 15:53 |
bnchs__ | mementos is a IETF specification i think | Apr 03 15:53 |
matey | really | Apr 03 15:53 |
matey | for archiving? | Apr 03 15:53 |
bnchs__ | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7089 | Apr 03 15:54 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ietf.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7089 | Apr 03 15:54 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | RFC 7089 - HTTP Framework for Time-Based Access to Resource States -- Memento | Apr 03 15:54 | |
matey | /me is easy to impress with knowledge of rfcs | Apr 03 15:54 |
bnchs__ | timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/19950101153500/http://microsoft.com | Apr 03 15:54 |
matey | "youre internet people" | Apr 03 15:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft – Cloud, Computers, Apps & Gaming | Apr 03 15:54 | |
bnchs__ | forgot | Apr 03 15:55 |
bnchs__ | https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/19950101153500/http://microsoft.com | Apr 03 15:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Microsoft Corporation | Apr 03 15:55 | |
bnchs__ | redirects to a portugese web archive | Apr 03 15:55 |
matey | really? | Apr 03 15:55 |
matey | this is as weird as the dark web (slightly tongue in cheek, but its always interesting to find parts of the net you didnt know existed) | Apr 03 15:56 |
matey | id love to know what makes kahle tick | Apr 03 15:56 |
matey | most of the time ive known hes existed hes been a bit of a hero | Apr 03 15:57 |
bnchs__ | well it's the earlist archive of microsoft.com (beats IA by 6 days) | Apr 03 15:57 |
matey | but like rms hes the sort that isnt too forward-thinking about successors | Apr 03 15:57 |
matey | well it's the earlist archive of microsoft.com (beats IA by 6 days) <- impressive | Apr 03 15:57 |
matey | 1995 is when they lifted the restrictions on commercial use i think | Apr 03 15:58 |
bnchs__ | it's 13 October 1996 | Apr 03 15:58 |
matey | in 1994 you could get a book full of "urls" but most were to gopher, the web was still wet behind the ears | Apr 03 15:58 |
bnchs__ | but i picked 1995 just in case | Apr 03 15:58 |
matey | i first got on the web in 95 or 96 | Apr 03 15:59 |
bnchs__ | https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013190236/http://www.microsoft.com:80/corpinfo/bill-g/column/1996essay/censorship.htm | Apr 03 15:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Searching for middle ground in online censorship | Apr 03 16:00 | |
matey | in 92 or 93 someone told me to get a telnet to some university blah blah "internet" and i thought they were nuts | Apr 03 16:00 |
bnchs__ | oh wait this is the month where communications deceney acts was signed | Apr 03 16:00 |
matey | its not like you could just look this up on wikipedia you know | Apr 03 16:00 |
bnchs__ | decency* | Apr 03 16:00 |
matey | and i wasnt in the habit of using my access to bbss as a search engine | Apr 03 16:00 |
matey | i mostly just looked for freeware with it | Apr 03 16:01 |
matey | but someone did tell me about the internet in the early 90s | Apr 03 16:02 |
matey | and funnier than that, it was a mac person | Apr 03 16:02 |
matey | go figure | Apr 03 16:02 |
bnchs__ | ok in CDA days | Apr 03 16:02 |
bnchs__ | they turned their websites black? | Apr 03 16:02 |
bnchs__ | why the fuck | Apr 03 16:02 |
matey | just like sopa-pipa | Apr 03 16:02 |
matey | reddit and wikipedia did that too | Apr 03 16:03 |
matey | i didnt know there was a historical precident | Apr 03 16:03 |
bnchs__ | they turned their pages black 2 days after clinton signed the communications decency acts | Apr 03 16:03 |
bnchs__ | https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013163030/http://www.vtw.org:80/speech/ | Apr 03 16:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | VTW Focus on Internet Censorship legislation | Apr 03 16:03 | |
matey | clinton was also the dmca (thanks, dick) | Apr 03 16:03 |
matey | clinton was also the copyright term extension act that kept mickey mouse from going into the public domain | Apr 03 16:04 |
bnchs__ | yes disney bribed congress | Apr 03 16:04 |
matey | at the expense of public access to decades of other words (fucking dick) | Apr 03 16:04 |
matey | and congress took it in the arse | Apr 03 16:05 |
bnchs__ | to sign the copyright extension bill | Apr 03 16:05 |
matey | traitors every single one | Apr 03 16:05 |
matey | except the couple who probably didnt sign (theres always one) | Apr 03 16:05 |
matey | there will never be a free society under capitalism | Apr 03 16:05 |
matey | it will always be run by the corporations | Apr 03 16:05 |
bnchs__ | there will be a secret money reward if you sign | Apr 03 16:06 |
bnchs__ | so sign like a good boy | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | oh lessig did a great job explaining how legalised bribery works | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | "rebooting democracy" | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | great talk (dartmouth) | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | on youtube | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | highly recommended | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | shows why usian politics are a complete farce | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | dollarocracy | Apr 03 16:06 |
matey | i actually sent lessig an article i wrote for roy | Apr 03 16:07 |
matey | i think rms is more important than lessig (lessig probably thinks so too) but lessig is just all kinds of badass | Apr 03 16:08 |
matey | fucking shame what happened to cc | Apr 03 16:08 |
matey | again, the path to the future for cc was to do what linksvayer suggested | Apr 03 16:08 |
matey | complete mystery how he ended up at github | Apr 03 16:09 |
matey | brett gaylor did a pretty amazing docu with lessig and girltalk as centrepieces, but then he went to work for mozilla and the planned sequel was never made | Apr 03 16:09 |
matey | also on youtube. and ia. | Apr 03 16:09 |
techrights-news | Techrights now has about 100GB of videos. They do cover a lot of corruption in national patent offices. Total time of videos probably around 200-300 hours. | Apr 03 16:09 |
matey | but in technical terms its a bit sloppy and plays fast and loose with definitions | Apr 03 16:10 |
matey | other than that its good | Apr 03 16:10 |
techrights-news | This talk is about Haven. For more information see Haven’s site at havenweb.org. http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/ | Apr 03 16:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Matthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | Techrights | Apr 03 16:10 | |
matey | lessig said he thinks with video-- ALL VIDEO | Apr 03 16:11 |
matey | you should just be able to quote anything, like you can with writing | Apr 03 16:11 |
matey | clip, snippet, copy, paste | Apr 03 16:11 |
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matey | and people do, but its complicated | Apr 03 16:12 |
bnchs__ | i like how the websites turned black for 2 days (even yahoo) after clinton signed the bill | Apr 03 16:12 |
matey | and if you do it with music youre fucked | Apr 03 16:12 |
bnchs__ | usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022 | Apr 03 16:12 |
bnchs__ | everyone would suck it like a good boy | Apr 03 16:12 |
matey | usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022 <- again, reddit and wikipedia did the same thing in response to sopa/pipa | Apr 03 16:12 |
matey | but that was before reddit fucked itself | Apr 03 16:13 |
matey | usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022 <- yes thats true | Apr 03 16:13 |
matey | everything is a dick sucking contest now | Apr 03 16:13 |
bnchs__ | they use covers like anti-pedo | Apr 03 16:13 |
matey | thats not new either | Apr 03 16:13 |
bnchs__ | and anti-terrorism | Apr 03 16:14 |
matey | adolf hitler: "thinks of the children!" *then gasses countless numbers of children* | Apr 03 16:14 |
bnchs__ | people had their own websites | Apr 03 16:14 |
matey | anti-terrorism: n. "we can do terrorism but YOU CANT" (also you cant do things we dont like or we will conflate it with terrorism) | Apr 03 16:14 |
bnchs__ | and there wasn't upboats or downboats in mailing lists | Apr 03 16:15 |
matey | /me still doesnt understand how it would be POSSIBLE for gerwitz to stop emails from pocock, even though theres little doubt the latter was censored | Apr 03 16:16 |
matey | but by gerwitz? how? | Apr 03 16:16 |
matey | when was he in charge of such things | Apr 03 16:16 |
bnchs__ | who's gerwitz and who's pocock | Apr 03 16:17 |
matey | pocock is a sometimes "contributor" to techrights | Apr 03 16:17 |
bnchs__ | oh | Apr 03 16:17 |
matey | meaning he sometimes emails roy and roy sometimes mirrors articles hes written | Apr 03 16:17 |
bnchs__ | stop emails as in gerwitz blocked him? | Apr 03 16:17 |
matey | hes the one who exposed corruption at fsfe and censorship at fsf | Apr 03 16:17 |
matey | well heres the thing | Apr 03 16:17 |
matey | pocock probably had some emails to rms blocked-- this i do not doubt | Apr 03 16:18 |
matey | allegedly gerwitz may have been involved somehow-- this i dont understand how its possible (gerwitz being involved) | Apr 03 16:18 |
matey | now for your other question | Apr 03 16:18 |
bnchs__ | blocked the emails for gerwitz alone? | Apr 03 16:18 |
bnchs__ | or the entire mail server? | Apr 03 16:18 |
matey | (mike) gerwitz gave a surprisingly good talk at libreplanet 2022 | Apr 03 16:18 |
matey | ok so heres how it allegedly goes: | Apr 03 16:19 |
matey | pocock email -> | gerwitz | rms | Apr 03 16:19 |
matey | gerwitz prevents rms from getting it | Apr 03 16:19 |
bnchs__ | oh so you're saying | Apr 03 16:19 |
matey | an i dont doubt that happened-- im only scpetical that gerwitz was the person responsible | Apr 03 16:19 |
bnchs__ | that gerwitz was in control of rms' incoming mail server | Apr 03 16:19 |
bnchs__ | and managed to block pocock's email address? | Apr 03 16:20 |
matey | im saying i dont know how he would be... but we are talking about fsf staff no mattre what | Apr 03 16:20 |
matey | this is rms@fsf or rms@gnu | Apr 03 16:20 |
matey | either way, fsf infrastructure | Apr 03 16:20 |
matey | someone was in charge of it when the email didnt go through | Apr 03 16:20 |
bnchs__ | well are you sure that it's just a technical issue | Apr 03 16:20 |
matey | im not aware that gerwitz ever had that position | Apr 03 16:20 |
bnchs__ | not a blacklisting thing? | Apr 03 16:21 |
matey | we can always blame a technical issue | Apr 03 16:21 |
matey | blacklisting is likely in this instance | Apr 03 16:21 |
matey | theres never censorship that cant be brushed away as a technical problem | Apr 03 16:21 |
bnchs__ | did the problem get fixed? | Apr 03 16:21 |
matey | i dont know, ive also had problems emailing him | Apr 03 16:21 |
bnchs__ | or did he not report the problem at all | Apr 03 16:21 |
matey | where even his autoresponder didnt respond | Apr 03 16:22 |
bnchs__ | matey: maybe it's a technical problem | Apr 03 16:22 |
matey | which i found suspicious | Apr 03 16:22 |
bnchs__ | i mean even i emailed him | Apr 03 16:22 |
matey | ive been emailing him for many years, i have some idea what a normal response is | Apr 03 16:22 |
bnchs__ | and it didn't go through | Apr 03 16:22 |
bnchs__ | so it might be | Apr 03 16:22 |
matey | yeah it could be a technical issue. always a possibility | Apr 03 16:22 |
bnchs__ | there's no way i could get blocked | Apr 03 16:22 |
matey | i mean its not even impossible for a cosmic particle to strike the server and cause an email to get lost | Apr 03 16:23 |
matey | though the magnetic field around the earth blocks most of them | Apr 03 16:23 |
bnchs__ | this is more than just one email | Apr 03 16:23 |
matey | at any rate, i dont doubt censorship | Apr 03 16:24 |
bnchs__ | i had problems emailing him | Apr 03 16:24 |
matey | im mostly intrigued that gerwitz could be implicated in this | Apr 03 16:24 |
matey | as im very sceptical of that | Apr 03 16:24 |
matey | and you know i dont have a high opinion of most fsf people, but the gerwitz/censorship connection doesnt ring true for me at all | Apr 03 16:25 |
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matey | im not inclined to leave it alone until i learn more | Apr 03 16:25 |
matey | though i will give up on it eventually if theres nothing forthcoming | Apr 03 16:25 |
matey | i mean, this isnt a white whale for me | Apr 03 16:25 |
bnchs__ | i mean | Apr 03 16:25 |
bnchs__ | you do you | Apr 03 16:25 |
bnchs__ | investigate as much as you like | Apr 03 16:25 |
matey | mostly im just curious | Apr 03 16:25 |
bnchs__ | but i doubt it's censorship | Apr 03 16:25 |
bnchs__ | and more of a technical issue on rms' end | Apr 03 16:26 |
matey | actually, what id like to if theres a way gerwitz even COULD be at fault | Apr 03 16:26 |
matey | i didnt think he was in charge of this even. | Apr 03 16:26 |
matey | when was he a moderator, for example | Apr 03 16:26 |
matey | i think the gerwitz part is bunk. what id like to know is WHY it is. id rather have more of a response to it than "i think its probably bunk" | Apr 03 16:27 |
matey | proving it wasnt censorship would also clear him but i figure thats a lot more difficult to prove | Apr 03 16:28 |
matey | alternatively if it really was his fault id be just as interested in that truth | Apr 03 16:28 |
matey | as sceptical as i am | Apr 03 16:28 |
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matey | pocock isnt very easily cornered on anything | Apr 03 16:29 |
matey | you cant get much out of him on this, which doesnt help | Apr 03 16:29 |
bnchs__ | maybe investigate without holding bias against the staff | Apr 03 16:29 |
matey | <bnchs__> maybe investigate without holding bias against the staff <- funnily enough thats what im doing | Apr 03 16:29 |
matey | but the fsf is not known for transparency and wont be useful in this | Apr 03 16:30 |
matey | theyre ridiculously opaque, roy has even critiqued them for it | Apr 03 16:30 |
matey | something he and i agree on | Apr 03 16:30 |
matey | or at least did agree on (i still do, who knows what his position is now) | Apr 03 16:30 |
bnchs__ | how do you give your project to the GNU | Apr 03 16:31 |
matey | you register | Apr 03 16:32 |
matey | i presume it generally involves sending an email | Apr 03 16:32 |
bnchs__ | to whom? | Apr 03 16:32 |
matey | which may get a response | Apr 03 16:32 |
matey | one of the biggest complaints is that responses are ridiculously far from timely | Apr 03 16:32 |
matey | and the process may take ages | Apr 03 16:32 |
matey | you know im happy to look this up for you actually | Apr 03 16:32 |
bnchs__ | because i heard of something | Apr 03 16:33 |
matey | https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2018/spring/gnu-needs-you-how-to-contribute-to-a-gnu-project | Apr 03 16:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | GNU needs you: How to contribute to a GNU project — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Apr 03 16:33 | |
bnchs__ | it involves giving up the copyright to FSF right? | Apr 03 16:33 |
matey | If you already have written useful software that you would like to submit as a GNU package, there's a submission process in place at gnu.org/help/evaluation.html. If you're willing to adhere to the GNU Project's mission for software freedom, you can join 404 other GNU supporters as a GNU maintainer. | Apr 03 16:34 |
matey | olves giving up the copyright to FSF right? <- i think so, so they can defend the license legally. | Apr 03 16:34 |
matey | im not sure its mandatory, but i think its probably required. maybe if you make a compelling argument they grant an exception, i dont know | Apr 03 16:34 |
matey | at the very least its recommended | Apr 03 16:35 |
bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 03 16:35 |
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matey | "Again, please email the questionnaire to <gnueval@gnu.org> when it is done." | Apr 03 16:36 |
matey | https://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.html | Apr 03 16:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Software Evaluation - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Apr 03 16:36 | |
matey | this would stop me from joining: | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | if its actually required | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | "and GNU documentation should | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | be released under the GNU FDL version 1.3 or any later version. | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | my position on the fdl is the same as debians | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | its not a free license | Apr 03 16:37 |
matey | the wikipedia article on the fdl goes into details about the criticism of it | Apr 03 16:38 |
matey | id rather use by-sa over fdl | Apr 03 16:38 |
matey | i wouldnt release documentation under fdl if its a requirement | Apr 03 16:38 |
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matey | maybe if its dual licensed cc0 and fdl | Apr 03 16:38 |
matey | i would be willing to do that. | Apr 03 16:39 |
matey | i bet they would still grant approval. but they would be annoying about it. | Apr 03 16:39 |
matey | try to discourage the dual license | Apr 03 16:39 |
matey | by comparison, the gpl3 thing isnt a dealbreaker at all | Apr 03 16:40 |
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matey | though the only thing ive ever made that i would consider having as a gnu project is already in the public domain | Apr 03 16:40 |
matey | so it would be a question of releasing the newest version under gpl3, since you cant undo the previous license | Apr 03 16:41 |
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matey | openbsd has included leafpad in repos for longer than debian has | Apr 03 17:00 |
matey | i was kind of pissed when debian got rid of it | Apr 03 17:00 |
matey | of course there is an argument to be made for doing so-- and it hasnt swayed openbsd | Apr 03 17:01 |
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techrights-news | Evacuating and Leaving the Dying SSD (New Recording Rig) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/ | Apr 03 17:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Evacuating and Leaving the Dying SSD (New Recording Rig) | Techrights | Apr 03 17:21 | |
techrights-news | md-toc version 8.1.2 (beta) released on 3 April 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-toc | Apr 03 17:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Md-toc - Free Software Directory | Apr 03 17:30 | |
techrights-news | You should not even trust ANYTHING from Apple. What have they done to deserve trust? Sold out everyone to NSA? https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/macos-opencore-trust.html | Apr 03 17:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Should you trust a third-party bootloader to run newer MacOS versions? | Apr 03 17:33 | |
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techrights-news | CRAZY!!! See how many COVID-19 we have here! "The face-to-face event of the year, Postgres London 2022 gives community members the opportunity to get together in-person in Central London" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgres-london-2022-2428/ | Apr 03 17:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Postgres London 2022 | Apr 03 17:34 | |
techrights-news | Ruby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163309 | Apr 03 17:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ruby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 03 17:34 | |
techrights-news | After weeks if not months of struggles with a deteriorating drive (degraded mode of operation) we’re finally making baby steps and moving the video setup to another machine; the picture quality will improve somewhat and sound quality is still work in progress http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/ | Apr 03 17:35 |
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techrights-news | How is this "open source"? See the bottom part. Also Windows only and Microsoft Github (proprietary). Microsoft wants people not to understand Software Freedom, let alone explore it. https://medevel.com/photodemon/ | Apr 03 17:44 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | PhotoDemon is a lightweight open-source photo editor for Windows | Apr 03 17:44 | |
techrights-news | Life only gets HARDER when you use Windows. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770527/bios-and-pre-os-screen-does-not-display-on-monitor/ | Apr 03 17:46 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | BIOS and pre-OS screen does not display on monitor. - Internal Hardware | Apr 03 17:46 | |
techrights-news | Nibble Stew: Looking at building some parts of the Unreal engine with Meson • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163310 | Apr 03 17:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nibble Stew: Looking at building some parts of the Unreal engine with Meson | Tux Machines | Apr 03 17:51 | |
bnchs__ | "BIOS and pre-OS screen does not display on monitor" | Apr 03 17:53 |
bnchs__ | the future of computing everyone | Apr 03 17:53 |
bnchs__ | "whaddya need the BIOS screen for" | Apr 03 17:53 |
bnchs__ | "you don't need to boot from another source" | Apr 03 17:53 |
techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163311 | Apr 03 17:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 03 17:58 | |
schestowitz-TR | STOP SIDELOADING AN OS !!! | Apr 03 17:59 |
schestowitz-TR | Stop exercising control over a PC you bought, you FREAK !! | Apr 03 17:59 |
*schestowitz-TR changes OS | Apr 03 18:01 | |
schestowitz-TR | clippy: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD A BOMB. | Apr 03 18:01 |
*schestowitz-TR changes wallpaper | Apr 03 18:02 | |
schestowitz-TR | clippy: THIS INCIDENT WILL BE REPORTED. | Apr 03 18:02 |
*schestowitz-TR copies files to USB driver instead of clown computing | Apr 03 18:02 | |
schestowitz-TR | clippy: WHAT ARE YOU, A PEDO???? | Apr 03 18:02 |
bnchs__ | WHADDYA NEED THE BIOS SETUP | Apr 03 18:03 |
bnchs__ | ARE YOU A TERRORIST??? | Apr 03 18:03 |
schestowitz-TR | TECHRORIST | Apr 03 18:03 |
bnchs__ | You don't NEED the BIOS setup | Apr 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | WHAT NEXT? | Apr 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | What will you ask for next? | Apr 03 18:04 |
bnchs__ | You don't NEED to boot from a different source than a hard drive | Apr 03 18:04 |
bnchs__ | Just use what your computer came with | Apr 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | access to an external disk??? | Apr 03 18:04 |
bnchs__ | and shut up | Apr 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | are you a pirate??? | Apr 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | no, hard drive is for pedos | Apr 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | use the clown | Apr 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | apple will scan everything | Apr 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | and score you for the banks | Apr 03 18:05 |
bnchs__ | I've seen modern laptops that don't even show the BIOS screen | Apr 03 18:05 |
bnchs__ | or the pre-OS screen at all | Apr 03 18:05 |
bnchs__ | they boot directly to windows | Apr 03 18:05 |
bnchs__ | so you basically have 2 seconds to mash all the function keys | Apr 03 18:05 |
MinceR | usually you can press a button to get into uefi setup and tell them to use a "slow" and more informative boot process | Apr 03 18:06 |
bnchs__ | before it boots to windows | Apr 03 18:06 |
bnchs__ | MinceR: They don't have that | Apr 03 18:06 |
bnchs__ | Dell removed it | Apr 03 18:06 |
bnchs__ | now it's just slient boot | Apr 03 18:06 |
MinceR | i don't know why anyone would buy a dHell product anyway | Apr 03 18:06 |
MinceR | they can't even design a hinge that doesn't pry itself apart in 2 years | Apr 03 18:06 |
MinceR | or a keyboard that doesn't fall apart in 2 years | Apr 03 18:07 |
bnchs__ | in the future, you won't even have a BIOS setup anymore | Apr 03 18:07 |
bnchs__ | nor the option to boot to another drive | Apr 03 18:07 |
MinceR | and they can't source a GPU that doesn't fry itself | Apr 03 18:07 |
bnchs__ | because that's illegal | Apr 03 18:07 |
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MinceR | or a TrackPoint imitation in which the buttons don't crap themselves in a few months of use | Apr 03 18:07 |
bnchs__ | i have a old dell latitude | Apr 03 18:08 |
bnchs__ | that has a bios screen | Apr 03 18:08 |
bnchs__ | and still works | Apr 03 18:08 |
MinceR | i have an old dHell inspiron, in which i had to have the GPU replaced twice, have the hinge fixed once, and they refused to fix the keyboard under warranty | Apr 03 18:09 |
MinceR | fuck them, dHell is a scam | Apr 03 18:09 |
bnchs__ | lol i'll admit this | Apr 03 18:10 |
bnchs__ | this dell latitude wasn't so uhhhhh good conidition | Apr 03 18:10 |
bnchs__ | the CMOS battery was dead | Apr 03 18:10 |
bnchs__ | some of the keys were dead | Apr 03 18:10 |
MinceR | i used a dHell latitude, that had the TrackPoint buttons that broke quickly | Apr 03 18:10 |
bnchs__ | had to replace the keyboard, and the CMOS battery | Apr 03 18:10 |
MinceR | at least that wasn't mine | Apr 03 18:10 |
techrights-news | Evacuating and Leaving the Dying SSD (New Recording Rig) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/ | Apr 03 18:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Evacuating and Leaving the Dying SSD (New Recording Rig) | Techrights | Apr 03 18:11 | |
bnchs__ | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-now-lets-you-enable-the-windows-app-installer-again-heres-how/?traffic_source=Connatix | Apr 03 18:12 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft now lets you enable the Windows App Installer again, here's how | Apr 03 18:12 | |
techrights-news | Links 03/04/2022: Cassidy James Leaves elementary OS, Ruby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released, and Claws Mail 3.19.0/4.1.0 Now Out | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/claws-mail-4-1-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/claws-mail-4-1-0/ | Apr 03 18:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 03/04/2022: Cassidy James Leaves elementary OS, Ruby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released, and Claws Mail 3.19.0/4.1.0 Now Out | Techrights | Apr 03 18:12 | |
bnchs__ | "App Installer (also known as AppX Installer) allows users to install Windows applications directly from a web server using an MSIX package or App Installer file without first downloading the installers to their computer." | Apr 03 18:12 |
bnchs__ | yes of course | Apr 03 18:13 |
bnchs__ | now the question is did it get abused? | Apr 03 18:13 |
bnchs__ | yes it did | Apr 03 18:13 |
techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163312 | Apr 03 18:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 18:13 | |
techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163313 | Apr 03 18:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 18:13 | |
MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicyoloswagnew.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-comicyoloswagnew#comic ) | Apr 03 18:14 |
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bnchs__ | indubitably, i'm little ronnie's son | Apr 03 18:16 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/dbcinchina/status/1510390016597446658#m | Apr 03 18:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Uncertain Doubter (@dbcinchina): "We can read more about Ursula VDL's (or “Rose Ladson”) story here: http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/" | nitter | Apr 03 18:34 | |
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bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR: they shared techrights? | Apr 03 18:40 |
schestowitz-TR | seems so | Apr 03 18:41 |
schestowitz-TR | it's an old article | Apr 03 18:41 |
bnchs__ | what is it about? | Apr 03 18:41 |
schestowitz-TR | EU and EPO | Apr 03 18:42 |
schestowitz-TR | and history | Apr 03 18:42 |
techrights-news | GNU/Linux port. https://adventuregamers.com/news/view/dreams-in-the-witch-house-to-become-reality-on-windows-and-linux | Apr 03 18:42 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adventuregamers.com | Dreams in the Witch House to become reality on Windows and Linux | Adventure Gamers | Apr 03 18:42 | |
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bnchs__ | Whaddya need a bootable USB for? | Apr 03 18:51 |
bnchs__ | Whaddy need a CD/DVD for? | Apr 03 18:51 |
bnchs__ | Whaddya need a USB for? | Apr 03 18:51 |
bnchs__ | Whaddya need a storage device for | Apr 03 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR | or PC? | Apr 03 18:52 |
bnchs__ | Just. Use. The. Clown | Apr 03 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR | just get a '"smart" phone | Apr 03 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR | or "tablet" phone | Apr 03 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR | hypeTablet | Apr 03 18:52 |
schestowitz-TR | iPeddd | Apr 03 18:52 |
psydroid2 | how to become a 5-minute-clown? | Apr 03 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR | "why can't you just do things like NORMAL PEOPLE?" | Apr 03 18:53 |
bnchs__ | yes | Apr 03 18:53 |
psydroid2 | click here and you'll find out | Apr 03 18:53 |
bnchs__ | Just buy a "smart" TV | Apr 03 18:53 |
bnchs__ | Just buy an Alexa | Apr 03 18:53 |
bnchs__ | Don't worry about it | Apr 03 18:53 |
bnchs__ | It's what the normies do | Apr 03 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR | "we are a VERY futuristic company, we moved everything to the clown" | Apr 03 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR | "we no longer have the BURDEN of having our OWN stuff" | Apr 03 18:53 |
schestowitz-TR | "move to the clown" = "sell the house!" | Apr 03 18:54 |
bnchs__ | yes | Apr 03 18:54 |
schestowitz-TR | "rent like most people" | Apr 03 18:54 |
schestowitz-TR | "take a loan" | Apr 03 18:54 |
bnchs__ | move everything to someone else's computer | Apr 03 18:54 |
bnchs__ | don't worry about the cosquences | Apr 03 18:54 |
schestowitz-TR | apple loves chilldren | Apr 03 18:54 |
bnchs__ | it's all the hype is about | Apr 03 18:54 |
schestowitz-TR | encryption | Apr 03 18:55 |
schestowitz-TR | that means | Apr 03 18:55 |
schestowitz-TR | the clown provider lets you lock files | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | it adds a lock icon to them ;-) | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | feels safe | Apr 03 18:56 |
bnchs__ | lol | Apr 03 18:56 |
bnchs__ | that's wrong, roy | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | same in case of cracking | Apr 03 18:56 |
bnchs__ | encryption is just a NOOP instruction | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | they call it "confidential computing" | Apr 03 18:56 |
bnchs__ | on their end | Apr 03 18:56 |
bnchs__ | really does nothing | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | whatsapp is ecryption | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | ONLY Facebook and its partners can read it | Apr 03 18:56 |
schestowitz-TR | but not Putin | Apr 03 18:57 |
schestowitz-TR | LF contributes to this deception | Apr 03 18:57 |
bnchs__ | encryption in whatsapp is nothing | Apr 03 18:57 |
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schestowitz-TR | misusing terms like end-to-end | Apr 03 18:57 |
schestowitz-TR | and "confidential" | Apr 03 18:57 |
bnchs__ | it's backdoored to shitt | Apr 03 18:57 |
schestowitz-TR | zemlin should get lost | Apr 03 18:57 |
schestowitz-TR | he has done so much for NSA | Apr 03 18:57 |
bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR: encryption doesn't matter in whatsapp | Apr 03 18:58 |
bnchs__ | everything is associated with your phone number | Apr 03 18:58 |
bnchs__ | whatsapp's backup option stores the messages UNENCRYPTED | Apr 03 18:58 |
bnchs__ | ON THE CLOWN | Apr 03 18:58 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/xsRv1Vp | Apr 03 19:01 |
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techrights-news | Ana Isabel Carvalho and Ricardo Lafuente on Designs Beyond the GUI | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/design-recipes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/design-recipes/ | Apr 03 19:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ana Isabel Carvalho and Ricardo Lafuente on Designs Beyond the GUI | Techrights | Apr 03 19:04 | |
techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163314 | Apr 03 19:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 03 19:15 | |
MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/jesus-second-coming.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-jesus-second-coming#comic ) | Apr 03 19:31 |
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XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/03/dozens-of-dead-civilians-found-in-kyiv-suburb | Apr 03 19:52 |
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techrights-news | Ewww, my eyes! I've just accessed ZDNet with Firefox and no extension/ad blocking installed. The Web is so unsafe and despicable. | Apr 03 19:52 |
bnchs__ | theres nothing worse than | Apr 03 19:53 |
bnchs__ | accessing a news website without ublock origin | Apr 03 19:54 |
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schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: yes, I know now | Apr 03 20:10 |
schestowitz-TR | but it depends on the site | Apr 03 20:10 |
schestowitz-TR | the next video will show | Apr 03 20:10 |
schestowitz-TR | so many ads | Apr 03 20:10 |
schestowitz-TR | in zdnet | Apr 03 20:11 |
MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/cross.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-cross#comic ) | Apr 03 20:11 |
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techrights-news | 4 Best Free and Open Source Passive OS Fingerprinting Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163315 | Apr 03 20:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source Passive OS Fingerprinting Tools | Tux Machines | Apr 03 20:25 | |
techrights-news | This very much relates to the reason we’ve never used — let alone installed — a video editor. A lot of stuff can be scripted instead. http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/design-recipes/ | Apr 03 20:27 |
*psydroid2 moves in order to be closer to the clown | Apr 03 20:28 | |
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psydroid2 | and one day hopefully merge with the clown | Apr 03 20:28 |
schestowitz-TR | be there or be squared | Apr 03 20:28 |
DaemonFC | <bnchs__> accessing a news website without ublock origin | Apr 03 20:33 |
DaemonFC | Daleks have no conceeeeeept of ELEGAAAAAANCE! | Apr 03 20:33 |
bnchs__ | i wanna make a modular alternative frontend program | Apr 03 20:34 |
bnchs__ | something that i can learn from NGINX's structure | Apr 03 20:34 |
techrights-news | TOP 5 important aspects when learning Linux for a beginner • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163316 | Apr 03 20:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TOP 5 important aspects when learning Linux for a beginner | Tux Machines | Apr 03 20:34 | |
schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: any quotes re brandon? | Apr 03 20:34 |
schestowitz-TR | for the article? | Apr 03 20:34 |
bnchs__ | what article? | Apr 03 20:34 |
schestowitz-TR | coming soon | Apr 03 20:34 |
schestowitz-TR | make it punctual | Apr 03 20:35 |
DaemonFC | You can tell how concerned CNN is about the news. Most of their hiring has been "influencers" to write paid shit for Amazon. | Apr 03 20:35 |
bnchs__ | well i can't make a quote without knowing the topic? | Apr 03 20:35 |
DaemonFC | Maybe Mitchell Baker can pipe it through to your Firefox New Tab page. | Apr 03 20:35 |
DaemonFC | Exciting new revenue-sharing ideas. | Apr 03 20:36 |
DaemonFC | When I'm the King of Earth, anyone who ever put "influencer" as a job title on LinkedIn gets sent to the meat grinder universe from Rick & Morty. | Apr 03 20:37 |
bnchs__ | >rick & morty | Apr 03 20:37 |
bnchs__ | reddit-tier show | Apr 03 20:37 |
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bnchs__ | i would prefer if they brought back king of the hill | Apr 03 20:38 |
schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: fair point | Apr 03 20:41 |
schestowitz-TR | give me some time, it's transcoding | Apr 03 20:42 |
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techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163317 | Apr 03 20:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 03 20:47 | |
DaemonFC | There's actually continuity between the episodes. Which is unusual for a cartoon. | Apr 03 20:47 |
DaemonFC | Adventure Time has some, so it really helps to watch in order, but they were also designed for syndication. | Apr 03 20:48 |
bnchs___ | even then | Apr 03 20:49 |
DaemonFC | Adventure Time gets downright depressing sometimes. | Apr 03 20:49 |
DaemonFC | Very dark for a "kids show". | Apr 03 20:49 |
bnchs___ | it's written by a bunch of brainlets that try to make themselves look smart by making up long ass words | Apr 03 20:49 |
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techrights-news | What’s new in GNOME 42 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163094#comment-33271 | Apr 03 20:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | People don't like GNOME 42's inconsistent themes | Tux Machines | Apr 03 20:50 | |
DaemonFC | You can tell how there were twists and turns where it started out as more of a kids show and then found an older audience that appreciated the occasional inappropriate humor that was slightly obfuscated so kids probably wouldn't pick up on it. | Apr 03 20:50 |
DaemonFC | Then it went from inappropriate humor into straight up nihilism. | Apr 03 20:50 |
bnchs___ | rick and morty is associated with soyboys | Apr 03 20:52 |
bnchs___ | and with good reasons | Apr 03 20:52 |
MinceR | who are soyboys? | Apr 03 20:52 |
DaemonFC | When you consider the background, imagine that it was less than 10 years ago and they had a child actor who was all of like 13 making crude sex jokes. | Apr 03 20:52 |
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bnchs___ | MinceR: male person who drinks soy or otherwise filled with estrogen | Apr 03 20:53 |
MinceR | what does estrogen have to do with rick and morty? | Apr 03 20:53 |
DaemonFC | No, I'm absolutely certain that mjg59_ would remove Rick & Morty from the TV if he could. | Apr 03 20:54 |
techrights-news | Plans for GNOME 43 and Beyond • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163318 | Apr 03 20:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plans for GNOME 43 and Beyond | Tux Machines | Apr 03 20:54 | |
bnchs___ | the point is rick and morty is most commonly watched by soyboys | Apr 03 20:54 |
MinceR | so what? | Apr 03 20:54 |
bnchs___ | just like how nintendo switch is associated with soyboys because they're most commonly played by soyboys | Apr 03 20:54 |
DaemonFC | At least if he actually believes what he says he does on his social control media profiles. | Apr 03 20:54 |
bnchs___ | but even then i wanted king of the hill to come back | Apr 03 20:56 |
DaemonFC | I don't know why. Every episode was fairly similar. | Apr 03 20:56 |
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DaemonFC | How far can you really go with a guy who can't sit on his lawnmower and sells propane for a living? | Apr 03 20:56 |
bnchs___ | yes it's obviously | Apr 03 20:57 |
bnchs___ | he yells at people for using coal | Apr 03 20:57 |
bnchs___ | instead of propane | Apr 03 20:57 |
DaemonFC | There's really nothing deep at all about King of the Hill. It doesn't even have a story ark. | Apr 03 20:57 |
DaemonFC | Errr arc. | Apr 03 20:57 |
DaemonFC | But I mean, like, there's no payoff for watching it. You don't get to piece anything together. | Apr 03 20:57 |
DaemonFC | By the end of the episode, everything is resolved. | Apr 03 20:57 |
bnchs___ | but it was a really funny show | Apr 03 20:58 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▇▁▆▄▂▂▃▂▄▇▂▆▇▅▄▅▁▃▁▃▄▅▂▃▄▃▄▂▁▄▅▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 23.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂█████▁▂██▁▁▁█▇█▁▁▂█▂▂▁█▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 82.73▕ swarm size (avg): 260.08 ⟲ | Apr 03 20:59 |
techrights-news | The 6 Best Linux-based OS for Android Smartphones • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163319 | Apr 03 21:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 6 Best Linux-based OS for Android Smartphones | Tux Machines | Apr 03 21:00 | |
immibis | is there a schwestowitzism for machine learning? perhaps machine unlearning? artificial stupidity? | Apr 03 21:03 |
immibis | DaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right? | Apr 03 21:03 |
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immibis | DaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right? | Apr 03 21:05 |
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MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/easter8.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-easter-8#comic ) | Apr 03 21:10 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I had to rig up an external cooler for the T-Mobile Home Internet modem. | Apr 03 21:15 |
DaemonFC | It just occurred to me that when they crash, they seem to get hot. | Apr 03 21:15 |
DaemonFC | So if you set it atop a fan and turn the fan on, that should blow the hot air out and maybe keep it working. It was just really badly designed. | Apr 03 21:15 |
schestowitz-TR | wow, bad design | Apr 03 21:16 |
schestowitz-TR | also, waste of power | Apr 03 21:16 |
schestowitz-TR | you turn electricity into hearf | Apr 03 21:16 |
schestowitz-TR | for some bloody ethernet or wifi | Apr 03 21:16 |
schestowitz-TR | *into heat | Apr 03 21:16 |
DaemonFC | They get hot and crash and then your internet connection goes down. | Apr 03 21:17 |
schestowitz-TR | our connection was last down 2 months ago | Apr 03 21:17 |
schestowitz-TR | for like 60 seconds, it self-updated the firmware | Apr 03 21:18 |
immibis | DaemonFC: do you just disconnect when pinged? | Apr 03 21:20 |
immibis | DaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right? | Apr 03 21:20 |
immibis | we had an ISP router like that, 10-15 years ago | Apr 03 21:20 |
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immibis | they are just capitalist products, minimum viable functionality, maximum viable quantity | Apr 03 21:21 |
bnchs___ | lol | Apr 03 21:21 |
bnchs___ | i connect straight to the modem | Apr 03 21:21 |
bnchs___ | with my computer | Apr 03 21:21 |
bnchs___ | yes i know, all the ports i open are gonna be open on WAN | Apr 03 21:22 |
DaemonFC | Between NordVPN and T-Mobile.... | Apr 03 21:22 |
immibis | bnchs___: that's illegal. you need at least 3 firewalls or else you lose your geek registration | Apr 03 21:22 |
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bnchs___ | i don't want to use chinese routers at the same time | Apr 03 21:24 |
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DaemonFC | T-Mobile also throttles basically everything but speed test websites. | Apr 03 21:27 |
bnchs___ | so what if a speed test website hosts a tor entry node? | Apr 03 21:28 |
DaemonFC | I don't know. It's really funny because while your videos are buffering, speedtest.net says you're getting 100 Mbps. | Apr 03 21:29 |
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DaemonFC | I noticed this with Comcast too. | Apr 03 21:30 |
bnchs___ | lol | Apr 03 21:30 |
bnchs___ | what if a speed test website | Apr 03 21:30 |
bnchs___ | hosts a tor entry node | Apr 03 21:30 |
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DaemonFC | You get on the VPN, you get 20 Mbps. | Apr 03 21:30 |
bnchs___ | would you get full speed? | Apr 03 21:30 |
DaemonFC | You get off the VPN, it's back up at almost 100. | Apr 03 21:30 |
DaemonFC | <bnchs___> would you get full speed? | Apr 03 21:30 |
DaemonFC | Maybe until they find out about it. | Apr 03 21:31 |
bnchs___ | but if they find out about it | Apr 03 21:31 |
bnchs___ | they can't do shit about it | Apr 03 21:31 |
bnchs___ | if they remove the throttle exception | Apr 03 21:31 |
DaemonFC | What port does Tor work over? | Apr 03 21:31 |
bnchs___ | the user can tell the ISP why my speed is 20 Mbps | Apr 03 21:31 |
bnchs___ | 9001-9030 | Apr 03 21:32 |
bnchs___ | but the speedtest website can just host a tor bridge | Apr 03 21:32 |
bnchs___ | iirc a tor bridge is hosted as a HTTP service | Apr 03 21:34 |
bnchs___ | to evade detection | Apr 03 21:34 |
bnchs___ | so even if tmobile or comcast found out | Apr 03 21:35 |
bnchs___ | they couldn't remove the throttle exception nor ban the site | Apr 03 21:35 |
bnchs___ | both would result on user complaining | Apr 03 21:35 |
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immibis | bnchs__: good idea. you should do it | Apr 03 21:49 |
bnchs__ | i do not host a speed test website | Apr 03 21:49 |
schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: draft ready | Apr 03 21:51 |
bnchs__ | ok what is the topic | Apr 03 21:51 |
MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/xCMYYoM.jpeg | Apr 03 21:52 |
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: imgur.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/xCMYYoM.jpeg | Apr 03 21:52 | |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ | Apr 03 21:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ‘Protestware’ (and an ‘Open Source’ Issue) | Techrights | Apr 03 21:54 | |
schestowitz | see this | Apr 03 21:54 |
bnchs__ | brandon turned his library into a malware for nothing but to seem like a "hero" to people | Apr 03 21:57 |
bnchs__ | it didn't take too long for snyk, and eventually CVE to catch on to his hidden malware | Apr 03 21:58 |
bnchs__ | after people discovered it, he had attempted to delete the commit and any evidence of his malware | Apr 03 21:59 |
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bnchs__ | of course, it was too late | Apr 03 21:59 |
bnchs__ | he got bitten in the ass for it | Apr 03 21:59 |
schestowitz-TR | ok | Apr 03 22:00 |
schestowitz-TR | I will quote all except the "ass" but | Apr 03 22:00 |
bnchs__ | but i personally wouldn't trust NPM | Apr 03 22:00 |
schestowitz-TR | *bit | Apr 03 22:00 |
schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 03 22:00 |
schestowitz-TR | npm is Microsoft | Apr 03 22:00 |
bnchs__ | it's just a supply chain attack waiting to happen | Apr 03 22:00 |
bnchs__ | he also got doxed for it | Apr 03 22:00 |
schestowitz-TR | thanks | Apr 03 22:02 |
schestowitz-TR | you watched it more closely than me | Apr 03 22:02 |
schestowitz-TR | so you know what happened and when | Apr 03 22:02 |
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techrights-news | ⚓ personally w | ♾ Gemini address: personally w | Apr 03 22:09 |
techrights-news | Corporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ’Protestware’ (and an ‘Open Source’ Issue) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ | Apr 03 22:09 |
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techrights-news | Debian Stable gopher://gopher.unixlore.net:70/0/glog/debian-stable.md | Apr 03 22:12 |
techrights-news | VNC Tinkerings gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220331.txt "The past few days have been spent giving Manjaro on Raspberry Pi a go." | Apr 03 22:13 |
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techrights-news | "Interested in what people do instead of using Usenet, I looked at Internet Archive Schoolar. I haven't found nothing more relevant than paper from 2013." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 03 22:13 |
techrights-news | "My banks webpage did work without JavaScript and (more importantly) over TOR, but they switched systems a while back, and very unfortunately, this feature disappeared. Sniff. And yes, I informed them, that I notice a severe lack of nerd appeal on the current website." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/re-everything-breaks.gmi | Apr 03 22:14 |
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techrights-news | "Doing grant writing, payroll, creating written resources for classes, scheduling people for work, taking meetings, traveling around town to teach, planning this makerspace, writing articles for a different job entirely. It's a lot. It's a lot and I'm not even making a living wage doing this." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-03-catchingup.gmi | Apr 03 22:15 |
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techrights-news | Re: Is There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor? gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-03_Re__Is_There_A_Better_Hard_Drive_Metaphor____2022_04_03__.gmi | Apr 03 22:16 |
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matey | when a sourceforge project leaves sf, theyre almost always moving to gh | Apr 03 22:20 |
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schestowitz-TR | matey: makes sense | Apr 03 22:20 |
schestowitz-TR | they chose outsourcing the first time around | Apr 03 22:20 |
matey | when a project moves to gitlab its almost always from gh, not somewhere else | Apr 03 22:21 |
schestowitz-TR | they just change outsourcing provider | Apr 03 22:21 |
matey | sr.ht factors in, but not as much (yet) for obvious reasons | Apr 03 22:21 |
matey | i have very mixed feelings about sr.ht | Apr 03 22:21 |
schestowitz-TR | remember many projects won't be visible to you | Apr 03 22:21 |
schestowitz-TR | they're not listed in those "hubs" | Apr 03 22:21 |
matey | they're not listed in those "hubs" <- i mean, projects get mentioned SOMEWHERE | Apr 03 22:22 |
matey | blogs, websites, distributions... | Apr 03 22:22 |
matey | the fsd | Apr 03 22:22 |
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immibis | "is there a better hard drive metaphor?" - some research OSes are entirely virtual-memory based with checkpointing | Apr 03 22:23 |
matey | i actually never created a gh account (initially) | Apr 03 22:23 |
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matey | someone i knew (who was into 6502 chips) made an account for me | Apr 03 22:24 |
matey | before the purchase | Apr 03 22:24 |
matey | so i started dropping things there | Apr 03 22:24 |
matey | when they got bought i was pissed | Apr 03 22:24 |
immibis | read about KeyKOS | Apr 03 22:24 |
immibis | and/or its derivatives | Apr 03 22:24 |
DaemonFC | NordVPN seems to be doing something with Wireguard that makes the nordvpn daemon crash when changing servers. At least with the "Linux" client. | Apr 03 22:25 |
DaemonFC | :/ | Apr 03 22:25 |
matey | point is, i never at any point decided "you know what this project needs? a git-based repository!" | Apr 03 22:25 |
matey | borkvpn | Apr 03 22:25 |
immibis | you just type "git init" because you want better undo | Apr 03 22:25 |
immibis | DaemonFC: you know why it's a *virtual* private network? because they can see everything, that's why | Apr 03 22:25 |
matey | heh | Apr 03 22:25 |
psydruid | why isn't nordvpn's client developed as free software? | Apr 03 22:26 |
DaemonFC | I've been considering moving to Debian Testing. | Apr 03 22:26 |
DaemonFC | Currently, they have GNOME 42 in there, and it makes some interesting improvements. | Apr 03 22:26 |
matey | /me remembers when debian stable wasnt debian testing | Apr 03 22:26 |
immibis | schestowitz-TR: is there a schestowism for nordvpn? | Apr 03 22:26 |
DaemonFC | Probably PanamaVPN. | Apr 03 22:26 |
matey | ariadnevpn | Apr 03 22:26 |
DaemonFC | I could do something with this, but I won't. | Apr 03 22:27 |
immibis | VPeeN | Apr 03 22:27 |
immibis | Mordstream2 is a fine German pun. but I don't think the VPN is killing people | Apr 03 22:28 |
DaemonFC | PIA switched their servers to something called "FreedomTech Solutions". | Apr 03 22:30 |
DaemonFC | I started calling it Free Dumb Tech. | Apr 03 22:30 |
immibis | american freedom or actual | Apr 03 22:30 |
immibis | oh wait PIA | Apr 03 22:30 |
matey | if you could walk into a german eatery and order the "viel spaß" that would be a fine german pun | Apr 03 22:30 |
immibis | that's the one the freenode prince runs? | Apr 03 22:30 |
DaemonFC | Yes. | Apr 03 22:30 |
matey | veal | Apr 03 22:30 |
psydruid | ich brauche meinen Mordstream2 | Apr 03 22:30 |
DaemonFC | It used to be really cheap, and fast. | Apr 03 22:31 |
immibis | logically, then, it wasn't good | Apr 03 22:31 |
matey | of course they woudlnt get it because its not pronounced that way | Apr 03 22:31 |
matey | pick 2 | Apr 03 22:31 |
immibis | viel, spaß, gut: Wahlen Sie zwei? | Apr 03 22:32 |
DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rustc-Bootstrap-GCC-Code-Gen | Apr 03 22:32 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust GCC Code Generator "rustc_codegen_gcc" Can Now Bootstrap Rustc - Phoronix | Apr 03 22:32 | |
matey | no because its one of the few phrases i know in german | Apr 03 22:32 |
matey | zwei is 2, i know that | Apr 03 22:32 |
matey | also zwei was emacs initially | Apr 03 22:32 |
MinceR | not eine? | Apr 03 22:32 |
matey | eine is not emacs | Apr 03 22:33 |
matey | oh i get it | Apr 03 22:33 |
matey | zwei was eine initially | Apr 03 22:33 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EINE_and_ZWEI | Apr 03 22:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | EINE and ZWEI - Wikipedia | Apr 03 22:33 | |
matey | mincer is right again | Apr 03 22:33 |
matey | stop doing that | Apr 03 22:33 |
MinceR | can't | Apr 03 22:34 |
matey | i know, its a bitch | Apr 03 22:34 |
matey | its funny, back when people put more trouble into silly names | Apr 03 22:35 |
matey | they also made users more free | Apr 03 22:35 |
matey | im going to go with post hoc here, bring the silly names back | Apr 03 22:35 |
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MinceR | people don't understand silly names anymore | Apr 03 22:35 |
matey | and yet people are sillier | Apr 03 22:38 |
matey | its a fucking paradox | Apr 03 22:38 |
immibis | you just gotta name everything "truth" or "trump" | Apr 03 22:39 |
techrights-news | One Month Passes, Only Comments in a Blog Post Actually Contain Accurate Information About EPO and UPC | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/ | Apr 03 22:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Month Passes, Only Comments in a Blog Post Actually Contain Accurate Information About EPO and UPC | Techrights | Apr 03 22:40 | |
matey | truthiness | Apr 03 22:41 |
matey | debian: leafpad is abandoned and insecure | Apr 03 22:41 |
matey | openbsd: hold my beer | Apr 03 22:41 |
matey | it turns out its not too difficult to make a better editor than leafpad though | Apr 03 22:41 |
matey | for almost any value of better | Apr 03 22:42 |
MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-30-22-2.jpg | Apr 03 22:47 |
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matey | https://www.etsy.com/market/pleated_denim_skirts | Apr 03 22:50 |
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techrights-news | The Patent Distortion: The Media Has Failed Us, Patent Extremism Has Replaced It | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/ | Apr 03 22:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Distortion: The Media Has Failed Us, Patent Extremism Has Replaced It | Techrights | Apr 03 22:50 | |
matey | most creatively named software package ive found so far | Apr 03 22:57 |
matey | cccc.sourceforge.net | Apr 03 22:57 |
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techrights-news | "I have recompiled the 5.15.16 kernel with these third-party modules." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/kernel-modules-rtsbpp-and-rtw89.html | Apr 03 22:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel modules rts_bpp and rtw89 | Apr 03 22:57 | |
techrights-news | "Steve has now released "MK3" and has sent me a an EasyOS-tweaked PET, and I have updated the EasyOS "noarch" PET repo. Not yet uploaded." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/global-ip-tv-panel-updated-to-2022mk3.html | Apr 03 22:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Global IP TV Panel updated to 2022MK3 | Apr 03 22:58 | |
matey | not the first program to be named by a cat though. xcfe and xvkbd are right behind it | Apr 03 22:58 |
bnchs___ | i like how searx northboot | Apr 03 22:58 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 03 22:58 |
bnchs___ | prioritzes github | Apr 03 22:58 |
bnchs___ | when i search for nginx source code | Apr 03 22:58 |
MinceR | cshrc is a city in bosnia | Apr 03 22:58 |
bnchs___ | btw the github repo | Apr 03 22:58 |
matey | even if it werent, i would still believe you | Apr 03 22:58 |
bnchs___ | is a mirror of nginx's mercurial repo | Apr 03 22:58 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not know they still ueed mercurial | Apr 03 22:59 |
bnchs___ | yeah | Apr 03 22:59 |
matey | "An official read-only mirror of http://hg.nginx.org/nginx/ which is updated hourly. Pull requests on GitHub cannot be accepted and will be automatically closed. " | Apr 03 22:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hg.nginx.org | NO TITLE | Apr 03 22:59 | |
matey | oing it right ^ | Apr 03 22:59 |
matey | d | Apr 03 22:59 |
bnchs___ | but it's retarded | Apr 03 22:59 |
techrights-news | "Today, I would like to discuss one feature of Go 1.18, that I am interested in. No, this will not be another article about generics. The feature I would like to write about is something that might be under the radar for most people, but it still might be useful." https://shibumi.dev/posts/go-18-feature/ | Apr 03 23:00 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shibumi.dev | Go 1.18 debug/buildinfo features | Apr 03 23:00 | |
bnchs___ | that searx would prioritze a github mirror | Apr 03 23:00 |
bnchs___ | rather than the mercurial source | Apr 03 23:00 |
matey | /me points out that nginx is still on his fork of the fsd | Apr 03 23:00 |
techrights-news | "We've all heard the GNU/Linux meme but in all seriousness should you actually say GNU/Linux or is it just a big waste of time." Say just "GNU"; it's shorter than Lee-NOX. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EM9oLBepePs | Apr 03 23:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Should You Say Gnu/Linux: No Probably Not - Invidious | Apr 03 23:01 | |
techrights-news | Tiki Trackers is a low- no-code features over Tiki CMS. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163320 | Apr 03 23:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiki Trackers is a low- no-code features over Tiki CMS. | Tux Machines | Apr 03 23:02 | |
techrights-news | GulagTube’s Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VHsHMWW7qkU ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 03 23:02 |
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techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Pop!_OS 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rN1qWxC38MA | Apr 03 23:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Pop!_OS 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 03 23:03 | |
techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Lubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_RESJ1-WPcM | Apr 03 23:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Lubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 03 23:04 | |
techrights-news | "Immich is written with Next.js framework, and uses TensorFlow, and PostgreSQL, Redis, over Nginx server." https://medevel.com/immich/ | Apr 03 23:07 |
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techrights-news | After dozens of highly misleading ‘news’ pieces blaming “open source” for the actions of malicious/misguided Brandon*, shipping malware to many people through Microsoft servers, it is probably time to explain what really happened http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ | Apr 03 23:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ‘Protestware’ (and an ‘Open Source’ Issue) | Techrights | Apr 03 23:08 | |
techrights-news | The only coverage of the EPO strike came a week after the strike had ended and relegated to a blog post; most of the actual facts are sheltered away in comments while the World Wide Web is basically a pool of disinformation from Team UPC http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/ | Apr 03 23:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Month Passes, Only Comments in a Blog Post Actually Contain Accurate Information About EPO and UPC | Techrights | Apr 03 23:08 | |
techrights-news | Team UPC has become rather quiet lately (just the occasional shameless self-promotion) and there’s no press coverage about the real affairs or the true state of the EPO, where Benoît Battistelli‘s friend António Campinos is doing no better than the predecessor http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/ | Apr 03 23:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Distortion: The Media Has Failed Us, Patent Extremism Has Replaced It | Techrights | Apr 03 23:09 | |
techrights-news | CentOS 7 vs CentOS 8 - Which is a better choice for you? - DekiSoft ⚓ https://dekisoft.com/centos-7-vs-centos-8-comparison/ ䷉ Source: dekisoft | Apr 03 23:11 |
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techrights-news | Manjaro Vs. Ubuntu (Latest) - Which is the best Linux Version? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163321 | Apr 03 23:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs. Ubuntu (Latest) - Which is the best Linux Version? | Tux Machines | Apr 03 23:12 | |
matey | /me doesnt understand how every single fucking programming language ended up on github (with next to zero exceptions) | Apr 03 23:14 |
matey | half? whatever. 2/3? i get it. but basically all of them, ffs | Apr 03 23:15 |
matey | not lua (just its libraries) not haskell (but its package manager) | Apr 03 23:15 |
matey | if its not the language, its the libs and/or the package manager | Apr 03 23:15 |
schestowitz-TR | audc and c++ are not there | Apr 03 23:16 |
matey | boost. | Apr 03 23:16 |
schestowitz-TR | that's a big chunk of programs | Apr 03 23:16 |
chunky | a chunk u say..? | Apr 03 23:16 |
schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 03 23:16 |
schestowitz-TR | jeff chunky | Apr 03 23:16 |
matey | /me has never heard of audc | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | maybe c? | Apr 03 23:17 |
schestowitz-TR | how much was there before 2018? | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | a lot of this is stuff that moved there since 2018 | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | like perl | Apr 03 23:17 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, one day there will be an exodus away from git | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | php | Apr 03 23:17 |
schestowitz-TR | like svn and svn | Apr 03 23:17 |
schestowitz-TR | then microsoft will struggle to retain what's left | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | btw, one day there will be an exodus away from git <- yes, and my answer to that is one day the sun will explode | Apr 03 23:17 |
matey | though the exodus from gh should be long before that | Apr 03 23:18 |
schestowitz-TR | naaa... tehc moves fast | Apr 03 23:18 |
matey | when they finally leave, they will pretend what that being hand-in-hand with microsoft wasnt a great betrayal | Apr 03 23:18 |
matey | tech moves fast <- lies move faster | Apr 03 23:18 |
schestowitz-TR | in less than a decade better things than git will exist, with easy migration route from git | Apr 03 23:18 |
matey | start the clock then | Apr 03 23:18 |
schestowitz-TR | lives move faster | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | not lies | Apr 03 23:19 |
matey | lies move very fast | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | tech changes a lot faster than other disciplines | Apr 03 23:19 |
matey | they run most of the planet | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | both h/w and s/w | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | look at fb | Apr 03 23:19 |
matey | the thing is, you say exodus from github | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | losing active users rapidly | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | now trying to 'evolve' for buzzword | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | "metaverse" | Apr 03 23:19 |
matey | im not concerned about github PER SE | Apr 03 23:19 |
schestowitz-TR | "second life" | Apr 03 23:19 |
matey | im concerned about the monopoly microsoft enjoys, and that these so called fighters for freedom dont give an actual damn | Apr 03 23:20 |
matey | second life + metaverse = getalife | Apr 03 23:20 |
schestowitz-TR | well, it is a BOUGHT monopoly | Apr 03 23:20 |
schestowitz-TR | and SOME of them embrace it before it was a MONOPOLY | Apr 03 23:20 |
schestowitz-TR | and before MICROSOFT | Apr 03 23:20 |
matey | yes, and now they dont give a damn | Apr 03 23:20 |
schestowitz-TR | RMS cautioned against it | Apr 03 23:20 |
matey | yes, and we should have listened | Apr 03 23:20 |
schestowitz-TR | but for reasons like JS | Apr 03 23:20 |
matey | it was a good reason | Apr 03 23:21 |
schestowitz-TR | I listened and checked gitlab | Apr 03 23:21 |
matey | he also waranted about a bigger problem | Apr 03 23:21 |
schestowitz-TR | I was already unhappy about the JS | Apr 03 23:21 |
matey | warned | Apr 03 23:21 |
matey | he warned about "ruinous compromise" | Apr 03 23:21 |
matey | 10 years before github was bought | Apr 03 23:21 |
schestowitz-TR | then the FSF changed its mind about making savannah replacement base don gitlab | Apr 03 23:21 |
schestowitz-TR | it would be the wrong path | Apr 03 23:21 |
matey | gitlab is crap thats why | Apr 03 23:21 |
schestowitz-TR | I like what we use | Apr 03 23:22 |
schestowitz-TR | git cli and gemini | Apr 03 23:22 |
schestowitz-TR | very small and easy to maintain | Apr 03 23:22 |
schestowitz-TR | it's perl and bash | Apr 03 23:22 |
schestowitz-TR | and that itself is in git | Apr 03 23:22 |
schestowitz-TR | it's like 100-200 lines of code | Apr 03 23:22 |
MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-30-22-5.jpg | Apr 03 23:23 |
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schestowitz-TR | pull request? PULL MA FINGA | Apr 03 23:23 |
schestowitz-TR | patches by email are easy | Apr 03 23:23 |
schestowitz-TR | save, diff, commit | Apr 03 23:23 |
schestowitz-TR | email as a standard/rfc is itself handy | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | can still be deal with 20 years from now, for sure... | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, same for editing workflow | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | as you know | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | simple text files | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't use the wordpress ui | Apr 03 23:24 |
schestowitz-TR | I pasted into it from kate | Apr 03 23:24 |
matey | you can streamline it even more | Apr 03 23:25 |
schestowitz-TR | drupal has drush | Apr 03 23:25 |
matey | if you stop using email and ditch the dns shit | Apr 03 23:25 |
schestowitz-TR | irc stuff is python, bash etc. | Apr 03 23:25 |
schestowitz-TR | and at the core it's all simple text | Apr 03 23:25 |
matey | python of course is becoming a non-programming language | Apr 03 23:25 |
matey | and turning into a webapi like rust | Apr 03 23:26 |
schestowitz-TR | without dns you are becoming hard to access | Apr 03 23:26 |
schestowitz-TR | like onion addresses for irc | Apr 03 23:26 |
matey | onion addresses for irc are easy enough for a child to use | Apr 03 23:26 |
schestowitz-TR | if a child has tor all set up | Apr 03 23:26 |
matey | tor is easy enough for a child to set up | Apr 03 23:26 |
schestowitz-TR | in some countries restrictions exist | Apr 03 23:26 |
matey | in some countries restrictions exist <- that is sort of the whole bloody point | Apr 03 23:27 |
schestowitz-TR | where XRevan86 is a rot operator and debian dev was raised by putin's regime | Apr 03 23:27 |
schestowitz-TR | *raided | Apr 03 23:27 |
matey | most of the countries with restrictions, tor gets around | Apr 03 23:27 |
schestowitz-TR | iirc, because someone uploaded some kanye west video | Apr 03 23:27 |
XRevan86 | A rot operator? | Apr 03 23:28 |
matey | i know more people who use tor to bypass restrictions than people who are restricted because of it | Apr 03 23:28 |
matey | hopefully not a deliberate typo | Apr 03 23:28 |
schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: OOPS | Apr 03 23:28 |
schestowitz-TR | in russia, tor is read from start to finish | Apr 03 23:28 |
schestowitz-TR | matey: accidental | Apr 03 23:29 |
schestowitz-TR | not even freudian slip | Apr 03 23:29 |
schestowitz-TR | QWERTY | Apr 03 23:29 |
matey | qwerty is a pretty terrible artifact of pre-computing days | Apr 03 23:29 |
*XRevan86 shrugs. | Apr 03 23:29 | |
schestowitz-TR | yes, I know | Apr 03 23:29 |
schestowitz-TR | but if you choose something else that works... until you leave your own machine | Apr 03 23:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and some devices do not offer alt layouts for their keyboard st all | Apr 03 23:30 |
matey | i mean im sure i could learn how to use a different keyboard | Apr 03 23:30 |
schestowitz-TR | so even your own devices might not obey you | Apr 03 23:30 |
matey | but a reliable supply of non-qwerty keyboards? that part is tricky | Apr 03 23:30 |
schestowitz-TR | you can use the same one | Apr 03 23:30 |
matey | i could remap all my keys too | Apr 03 23:30 |
schestowitz-TR | if you memorise key locations | Apr 03 23:30 |
matey | but on that front i truly cant be arsed | Apr 03 23:30 |
schestowitz-TR | OSes that let you alter mapping already support alt layouts | Apr 03 23:31 |
schestowitz-TR | the problem is those that support neither | Apr 03 23:31 |
schestowitz-TR | or a friend's computer or public terminal | Apr 03 23:31 |
matey | well i havent used a public computer in ages | Apr 03 23:31 |
schestowitz-TR | they use YOU | Apr 03 23:31 |
matey | oh yeah, like the others dont | Apr 03 23:32 |
schestowitz-TR | and usually they are not even THEM | Apr 03 23:32 |
schestowitz-TR | They are some companies | Apr 03 23:32 |
schestowitz-TR | controlling them remoately | Apr 03 23:32 |
matey | id have to REALLY LOVE computers to still bother with them these days | Apr 03 23:32 |
schestowitz-TR | so you are used by some company via some machine that is not even yourss | Apr 03 23:32 |
matey | ive put more work into that than my first marriage | Apr 03 23:32 |
matey | we will see which was more hopeless | Apr 03 23:33 |
schestowitz-TR | we have working computers older than our marriage | Apr 03 23:33 |
matey | i actually still had my second ever pc when i lived in my first apartment | Apr 03 23:33 |
matey | its was a generic 286 | Apr 03 23:34 |
matey | i moved it from a desktop case that weighed a fuckload to a minitower | Apr 03 23:34 |
schestowitz-TR | two floppy drives? | Apr 03 23:34 |
schestowitz-TR | 5,25? | Apr 03 23:34 |
matey | one 5.25 and one 3.5 | Apr 03 23:34 |
psydruid | computers have been the bigger con | Apr 03 23:34 |
matey | i added an ide controller because it was fucking mfm | Apr 03 23:34 |
matey | and i got it on the internet | Apr 03 23:34 |
psydruid | you could do everything you can do now in the 90s too | Apr 03 23:35 |
schestowitz-TR | with fewer polygons | Apr 03 23:35 |
schestowitz-TR | and fewer colours (depth) | Apr 03 23:35 |
schestowitz-TR | which does not add much practical value | Apr 03 23:35 |
matey | i dont know | Apr 03 23:35 |
matey | i would say 24bit colour is worth it | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | i certainly thought so before i had it | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | and i didnt change my mind after | Apr 03 23:36 |
schestowitz-TR | not for text | Apr 03 23:36 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe for pr0na nd stuff | Apr 03 23:36 |
schestowitz-TR | for most computer tasks the colour is showoff | Apr 03 23:36 |
schestowitz-TR | you could do OK with 8 bit | Apr 03 23:36 |
schestowitz-TR | and high res | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | lol, because the only real point of full colour in video and photos is naked stuff | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | just today someone sent me a video of them dancing | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | not that kind of dancing. | Apr 03 23:36 |
matey | i think 24bit colour helped | Apr 03 23:37 |
techrights-news | Debian vs Ubuntu (2022 Comparison): 101 Guide to Choose Your Distro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163322 | Apr 03 23:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian vs Ubuntu (2022 Comparison): 101 Guide to Choose Your Distro | Tux Machines | Apr 03 23:37 | |
matey | when i was using a 16-bit machine | Apr 03 23:38 |
techrights-news | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux 5.18 Kernel Release Candidate • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163323 | Apr 03 23:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux 5.18 Kernel Release Candidate | Tux Machines | Apr 03 23:38 | |
matey | there were many things i hoped for for the future | Apr 03 23:38 |
matey | full colour video was one | Apr 03 23:38 |
matey | unpaged memory access was another | Apr 03 23:38 |
matey | this is when i was a kid | Apr 03 23:38 |
matey | i dont think these are gimmicks | Apr 03 23:38 |
matey | with that said, my window manager is... | Apr 03 23:39 |
matey | a 52k binary | Apr 03 23:39 |
psydruid | my first PC had a Pentium processor, so I missed all of that fun | Apr 03 23:39 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Has Orban commented in any way on the atrocities committed in the Kiew oblast'? | Apr 03 23:39 |
psydruid | although I had an MSX 2 before that as well | Apr 03 23:40 |
MinceR | XRevan86: i haven't heard of it | Apr 03 23:40 |
schestowitz | matey: https://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-uga-dancers-rehearse-for-upcoming-ubuntu-show/collection_82610246-95b4-11ec-b065-73d009120291.html | Apr 03 23:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PHOTOS: UGA dancers rehearse for upcoming ‘UBUNTU’ show | Multimedia | redandblack.com | Apr 03 23:40 | |
MinceR | some of the lower downs started calling the war what it is, eventually | Apr 03 23:40 |
schestowitz | just in, rss feeds | Apr 03 23:40 |
matey | i had an american rebadge of a british 8bit | Apr 03 23:40 |
MinceR | but i suspect that's going to end soon | Apr 03 23:40 |
matey | <schestowitz> matey: https://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-uga-dancers-rehearse-for-upcoming-ubuntu-show/ <- i blame kanye | Apr 03 23:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-uga-dancers-rehearse-for-upcoming-ubuntu-show/ ) | Apr 03 23:40 | |
matey | oh wait | Apr 03 23:41 |
matey | different ubuntu | Apr 03 23:41 |
matey | NOT canonical | Apr 03 23:41 |
matey | thats a relief | Apr 03 23:41 |
matey | i would have blamed kanye for canonical having dancers and a show | Apr 03 23:42 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Does the Hungarian TV spread Russian propaganda regarding it? | Apr 03 23:42 |
XRevan86 | I won't believe for a second that they didn't cover it at all. | Apr 03 23:42 |
MinceR | afaik it does | Apr 03 23:42 |
MinceR | but i don't really follow it | Apr 03 23:42 |
XRevan86 | Some of those claims offend me with their stupidity and ease of debunking, so I'm curious which Hungarian TV picked up. | Apr 03 23:43 |
matey | by the way XRevan86 i have an easy one for you | Apr 03 23:43 |
matey | ive already heard a theory about this, but since you surely know whether its bunk or not, i thought id get your 2c/2p on it | Apr 03 23:43 |
matey | (2r?) | Apr 03 23:44 |
XRevan86 | 2k | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | 2k | Apr 03 23:44 |
XRevan86 | or maybe actually 2c | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | so | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | heh | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | american spelling of english words... | Apr 03 23:44 |
XRevan86 | kopek, kopeck, copeck, whatever | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | its from britain, but britain has actually changed spelling since then, hence the difference. true or false? | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | third option welcome. | Apr 03 23:44 |
XRevan86 | matey: False. | Apr 03 23:44 |
matey | so what actually happened? | Apr 03 23:45 |
XRevan86 | matey: It's true with some words like "tyre", but that's pretty minor. | Apr 03 23:45 |
matey | and more generally? | Apr 03 23:45 |
XRevan86 | I'll find you a Wikipedia article. | Apr 03 23:45 |
matey | as long as its got your endorsement | Apr 03 23:45 |
matey | i mean i dont consider you the world authority on it or anything | Apr 03 23:46 |
techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163324 | Apr 03 23:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 03 23:46 | |
matey | but at the very least, the local one. | Apr 03 23:46 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_spelling_reform#19th_century this will do | Apr 03 23:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | English-language spelling reform - Wikipedia | Apr 03 23:47 | |
XRevan86 | > In 1806, Noah Webster published his first dictionary, A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language. It included an essay on the oddities of modern orthography and his proposals for reform. Many of the spellings he used, such as color and center, would become hallmarks of American English. | Apr 03 23:47 |
matey | whoa | Apr 03 23:47 |
matey | so it was prescriptive? | Apr 03 23:47 |
XRevan86 | yep | Apr 03 23:48 |
matey | ffs. | Apr 03 23:48 |
matey | thats crazy! | Apr 03 23:48 |
matey | what a cheeky bastard | Apr 03 23:48 |
matey | americans and their "this is the CORRECT way... that i just made up!" | Apr 03 23:49 |
matey | i dont blame them for the difference, no | Apr 03 23:50 |
matey | just the idea that you can be completely arbitrary and then say "well, this is the RIGHT way" | Apr 03 23:50 |
XRevan86 | The "colour→color" thing is pretty much de-French-ification, by the way. "color" is a pure Latin spelling. | Apr 03 23:50 |
matey | The "colour→color" thing is pretty much de-French-ification, by the way <- well, yes | Apr 03 23:50 |
matey | but i assumed the "frenchification" came AFTER the mayflower, so to speak | Apr 03 23:50 |
matey | and what youre implying is, it came before | Apr 03 23:51 |
XRevan86 | So is the "organisation→organization", except not to Latin but to Greek. | Apr 03 23:51 |
matey | also spake sarathustra | Apr 03 23:51 |
XRevan86 | matey: Of course before. | Apr 03 23:51 |
matey | matey: Of course before. <- and yet ive heard the opposite! | Apr 03 23:51 |
matey | im glad i asked. | Apr 03 23:51 |
XRevan86 | It's a basic word, it's only natural to assume it came from Anglo-Norman, Latin words usually come to English through scholarly stuff. | Apr 03 23:52 |
XRevan86 | English has *a lot* of words from Anglo-Norman French. | Apr 03 23:52 |
matey | i guess webster wasnt a francophile | Apr 03 23:53 |
XRevan86 | He wanted to make spelling more regular I guess. | Apr 03 23:54 |
matey | i mean i can appreciate that, sort of | Apr 03 23:54 |
matey | but by "more regular" of course we mean | Apr 03 23:54 |
matey | "different from the rest of the english speaking world" | Apr 03 23:54 |
matey | and it didnt get much farther. i dont think it even made it all the way to canada. | Apr 03 23:54 |
matey | "defrenchification, eh? good luck with that here!" | Apr 03 23:55 |
matey | (weve been trying for years!) | Apr 03 23:55 |
XRevan86 | matey: Would've been nice if he'd tried to remove mistakenly inserted letters from words like "island" and "limb" :) | Apr 03 23:56 |
matey | i guess he knew his limits | Apr 03 23:57 |
matey | hed already failed to conquor the north | Apr 03 23:57 |
XRevan86 | The English like to overcomplicate words way too much. | Apr 03 23:57 |
matey | i draw the line at maneuver | Apr 03 23:58 |
matey | man-ovary is just too much | Apr 03 23:58 |
matey | also every single license that means a thing to me spells it "license" so... | Apr 03 23:58 |
matey | its "license" now, sorry | Apr 03 23:58 |
matey | which it is anyway! just not all the time | Apr 03 23:59 |
XRevan86 | matey: I look at that word like at advice/advise | Apr 03 23:59 |
psydruid | this "island" form is curious | Apr 03 23:59 |
MinceR | iirc license is usian and licence is british | Apr 03 23:59 |
matey | mincer: its worse than that | Apr 03 23:59 |
matey | it depends on whether its noun or verb in british | Apr 03 23:59 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 03 23:59 |
XRevan86 | "to license a licence" is the non-US form | Apr 03 23:59 |
psydruid | in Dutch we have "eiland" and German has "Insel" | Apr 03 23:59 |
matey | license is actually correct on either side of the pond, depending on the context | Apr 03 23:59 |
matey | i mean thats a bit much. | Apr 03 23:59 |
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