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mateyin terms of survival, capitalism WILL destroy free software, if we let itApr 03 00:00
mateythey cannot be friendsApr 03 00:00
mateyit doesnt matter how many jews are "nice" to hitler, hes still bent on exterminating them.Apr 03 00:00
mateycapitalism doesnt like fair competition.Apr 03 00:01
mateyfree software is TOO FAIR for them. Apr 03 00:01
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mateywhat people dont realise is, that capitalism predictably devolves into monopoly and attempts to control society by any means necessaryApr 03 00:01
mateyfree software is incompatible with THAT. but not capitalism "per se"Apr 03 00:01
mateybut that is what capitalism will continue to do, just like there was never going to be a point where hitler said Apr 03 00:02
matey"you know what? im tired of taking over europe. i think ill just find a nice jewish woman to settle down with and stop all this megalomania."Apr 03 00:02
mateyits never going to happen!Apr 03 00:02
mateyalso, fuck mike godwin. hes a spineless nazi shit.Apr 03 00:03
mateythough MOSTLY thats tongue in cheek.Apr 03 00:03
psydruidthe services revenue model never seems to have taken off either except for very few companies such as Red HatApr 03 00:05
psydruidif people can download and use free software for free (gratis), they aren't going to pay for it for the most partApr 03 00:06
mateycapitalism pushes this imaginary image of capitalism, where if a bunch of people get together and try to figure out how to be more independentApr 03 00:06
mateycapitalism itself will not send people to try to destroy thatApr 03 00:07
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mateybut thats what capitalism does with such things. every. single. time.Apr 03 00:07
mateyco-opt it and/or destroy it. as if turning something into a cynical piece-of-shit meaningless version of itself is really different from "destruction"Apr 03 00:07
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psydruidthe status quo must be protected because too much is at stakeApr 03 00:08
mateyit turns handcrafts into sweatshops, and high-tech industries into more sweatshopsApr 03 00:08
mateyit really turns every fucking thing into sweatshops-- like amazon and its warehousesApr 03 00:08
mateyif capitalism was called sweatshopism, people might not like it as muchApr 03 00:08
mateyof course if capitalism was called sweatshopism, it would be a more accurate nameApr 03 00:09
mateynot everything capitalist is sweatshop-related of courseApr 03 00:09
psydruidsweatshops built on free software, that's freedomApr 03 00:09
mateyi mean, it takes a long time for  EVERYTHING to be turned into sweatshop labourApr 03 00:09
mateyof every store i go to, right?Apr 03 00:09
mateythe biggest most corporate one is the one that has trouble making change. Apr 03 00:10
mateyEVERY OTHER PLACE i go to can make change, and keep their major appliances working Apr 03 00:10
mateywhy? because when something breaks they have to fix itApr 03 00:10
mateyand when they run out of cash, they send one of their paid staff to the bank to get more.Apr 03 00:10
mateybut the biggest most corporate place i go (which i avoid, except when i cant) cant make changeApr 03 00:11
mateytheyre too cheap to fix things or send someone to the bankApr 03 00:11
mateytheyre always understaffed, so they have no one they can sendApr 03 00:11
mateytheyd have to close the place. Apr 03 00:11
mateythey need more employees just to carry out the basic functions of the businessApr 03 00:12
mateybut they prefer to have an insufficient number of people doing their job plus several othersApr 03 00:12
mateyand then they berate customers over not doing the job of the businessApr 03 00:12
mateylike its the customers job to play banker, not the buinesses job to send someone to the bankApr 03 00:12
mateywe need ones! fuck you, send someone to the bank. do i look like wells fargo to you?Apr 03 00:13
mateywhen i need something, what do they do? NOTHINGApr 03 00:13
mateytheyre too cheapApr 03 00:13
mateywhy so cheap? undercutting places that give a shitApr 03 00:14
psydruidfree software was on the path towards enabling people to exercise their freedoms, but then it had to be destroyed because too much freedom is not good for those same peopleApr 03 00:14
bnchsthe biggest joke in microsoft vs codeApr 03 00:14
bnchsthey have an extension for vim keybindsApr 03 00:15
mateymicrosoft vimApr 03 00:15
matey/me has vi, but not vim (i recommend jed)Apr 03 00:15
mateyjeds not going to cut it for serious vim/emacs users obviouslyApr 03 00:16
mateybut i like it better than viApr 03 00:16
psydruidat this point I'm even questioning the validity of the IT/software industry Apr 03 00:16
mateyyou should always question industryApr 03 00:16
mateythe more industrial medicine gets, the more they overwork doctors and nurses and the number of accidents increaseApr 03 00:17
mateydid they take off the wrong leg? probably industry.Apr 03 00:17
mateythe more industrial music gets, the more they suck the dynamic range out of music, take singers like britney spears andApr 03 00:17
mateyits not like she cant sing. its just that shes more marketable the way she is.Apr 03 00:17
mateyblame industry.Apr 03 00:17
psydruidif all the jobs that need to be done could be done with a fraction of the developers currently out there, how are the other not so lucky ones going to make a living?Apr 03 00:17
bnchsyes its one thing i likeApr 03 00:18
mateyindustry turns the amazon into wildfires, and it turns vast lands full of tribes into reservations full of alcoholicsApr 03 00:18
bnchsglorified microsoft vim in a electron appApr 03 00:18
bnchstakes up 500% more RAM than the real vimApr 03 00:18
mateyif all the jobs that need to be done could be done with a fraction of the developers currently out there, how are the other not so lucky ones going to make a living? <- and if capitalism prefers inefficiency and unreliability to a realistic idea of how many people we need on a certain taskApr 03 00:19
mateyhow is the entire concept not a fucking farce?Apr 03 00:19
psydruidthat's what I meanApr 03 00:19
mateythe software industry makes money from revinting the wheel over nad over and over againApr 03 00:19
mateybut its not enough to reinvent the wheel and LIE and say its newApr 03 00:20
mateyoh noApr 03 00:20
mateyyou also have to DESTROY all the other fucking wheels with lies and skullduggeryApr 03 00:20
mateybecause competition is (by definition) BAD for monopolyApr 03 00:20
mateyand monopoly is what capitalism REALLY wantsApr 03 00:20
psydruidand do we pretend to live in this world of make believe or would we rather live in realityApr 03 00:20
mateyand do we pretend to live in this world of make believe or would we rather live in reality <- theres no easy answer to that questionApr 03 00:21
mateythe not-so-easy answer is that we live in a cult until we cant anymoreApr 03 00:21
mateyand then things get interesting.Apr 03 00:21
mateybut the biding-time-in-a-cult timeframe can last decadesApr 03 00:21
matey105 years ago russia overthrew feudalismApr 03 00:22
psydruidI'm thinking of doing something not in IT or software at allApr 03 00:22
matey<psydruid> I'm thinking of doing something not in IT or software at all <- then what?Apr 03 00:22
psydruidbecause what is the whole purpose of itApr 03 00:22
psydruidI have many skillsApr 03 00:22
mateyi mean i can answer that at leastApr 03 00:22
activelowi'll consider jed editor; seems practicalApr 03 00:22
mateyi think jed is too "bloated" for youApr 03 00:23
mateybut id be happy if you were promoting it as something useful to youApr 03 00:23
mateydo check it outApr 03 00:23
activelowwhy would jed be bloated?Apr 03 00:24
matey <psydruid> because what is the whole purpose of it <- i dont think information technology stops being useful when you (hypothetically) get rid of industry and capitalismApr 03 00:24
mateyif anything, tech needs people who arent married to the industry, more than ever beforeApr 03 00:24
psydruidI would just limit software developments to things that benefit me and people within my circleApr 03 00:25
mateythats what free software wasApr 03 00:25
psydruidI mean, look at MinceR with all of his knowledge and skillsApr 03 00:25
mateybut it didnt see the fatal compromises it was makingApr 03 00:25
matey<psydruid> I mean, look at MinceR with all of his knowledge and skills <- i know very little about his skills, but he says some things that point to being skilledApr 03 00:26
psydruidand they chew and spit someone like him outApr 03 00:26
mateyim not so much a sceptic as unfamiliarApr 03 00:26
matey<psydruid> and they chew and spit someone like him out <- industry has no use for independent thinkersApr 03 00:26
mateyactually thats half trueApr 03 00:26
mateystep 1 exploit themApr 03 00:26
mateystep 2 keep them in lineApr 03 00:27
mateyif step 2 fails, step 3 is destroy themApr 03 00:27
mateysept 19 2019Apr 03 00:27
mateyor was it 16th?Apr 03 00:27
mateyi think it was sept 16thApr 03 00:27
mateysome say 11Apr 03 00:27
mateyeither way "free software 9/11" fits imoApr 03 00:28
mateythe movement does less now to protect itselfApr 03 00:28
psydruidsometime around an anniversary at leastApr 03 00:28
mateyrms probably doesnt realise that sept 16th is his half-birthdayApr 03 00:29
mateyhe turns n.5 on that dayApr 03 00:29
mateybut no one keeps track of half-birthdays, because its silly to do soApr 03 00:29
mateyeven birthdays themselves are a little bit sillyApr 03 00:30
mateyhappy birthday gnu, heres stephen fry (love him really) with a mac (what?)Apr 03 00:31
mateythey swear the mac was running gnuApr 03 00:32
bnchsgnuApr 03 00:32
mateyim sceptical.Apr 03 00:32
psydruidgnu/microsoftApr 03 00:32
mateyhai naApr 03 00:32
bnchswell macs can run gnu/linuxApr 03 00:32
psydruidgnu/appleApr 03 00:32
mateyeven with non-free drivers, getting a mac to work with gnu/linux tends to be painfulApr 03 00:32
mateywith gnewsense though? or trisquel?Apr 03 00:33
psydruidthey end up working eventuallyApr 03 00:33
mateythats goodApr 03 00:33
psydruidand then they stop working again as developers abandon themApr 03 00:33
mateyyeahApr 03 00:33
psydruidfor new shiny macsApr 03 00:33
mateythey must have found the goldilocks version of gnewsense or whatever for the macbook fry was usingApr 03 00:34
mateythough id just as soon believe they lied to cover up the fact that...Apr 03 00:34
mateyi mean i dont KNOW that, but thats just itApr 03 00:34
mateyhow would we knowApr 03 00:34
mateythey didnt document it except after the fact when people were like "wait..."Apr 03 00:35
mateybut the thing is-- if i show that video to anyoneApr 03 00:35
mateythe first thing theyre going to ask me is if gnu will run on a macApr 03 00:35
matey"well..."Apr 03 00:35
matey"theres always a chance"Apr 03 00:35
mateyever since then gnu has become more about marketing, a bit less about really fightingApr 03 00:36
mateyand the mandatory happinessApr 03 00:37
mateyid love to hear some gnu developers bitch and moan about how much theyve tried to be more free, only to have the industry fuck them overApr 03 00:37
mateybut that might "alienate" someoneApr 03 00:37
psydruidmore like a "bitchfight"Apr 03 00:37
mateyif the truth alienates people, the people alienated by truth can fuck themselves.Apr 03 00:37
mateyits not like we are shit-talking microsoft just to be dicksApr 03 00:38
mateytheyve spent the past 20-40 years fucking over everything that movesApr 03 00:38
mateyits a legitimate gripe-- get used to it!Apr 03 00:38
mateythe struggle for freedom isnt the hold-hands-and-sing drumming circle for freedomApr 03 00:39
bnchsmatey: you know what else fucked everything that moves?Apr 03 00:39
mateyif you want the unitarian universalists, theyre dotted all over the place if thats your idea of progressApr 03 00:39
psydruidwhy do governments and companies go along with the narrative that their interests are aligned with Microsoft's?Apr 03 00:39
matey<bnchs> matey: you know what else fucked everything that moves? <- bill gates and jeff epstein?Apr 03 00:40
bnchscorrect!Apr 03 00:40
mateyprobably not just a coincidenceApr 03 00:40
matey<psydruid> why do governments and companies go along with the narrative that their interests are aligned with Microsoft's? <- because at the end of the day, all they give a shit about is monopoly and controlApr 03 00:40
mateyand theyre all in that fight (against each other) together.Apr 03 00:40
mateybecause if theres one group of people theyre more against than each other...Apr 03 00:41
mateyits the rest of us.Apr 03 00:41
DaemonFCMicrosoft is like General Motors only instead of a bankruptcy, there's just a perpetual bailout.Apr 03 00:41
mateyin other words, microsoft and google may be out to destroy each otherApr 03 00:41
DaemonFCIf General Motors was left on its own, it would have gone under because people wanted good products and had access to them, and were buying them, and that's why GM failed.Apr 03 00:41
mateybut other than THAT they have common goals. Apr 03 00:41
DaemonFCBut uh oh, here comes the government.Apr 03 00:42
mateymost people and microsoft only have common goals if microsoft lies to them constantlyApr 03 00:42
DaemonFCLets GM screw their workers, their creditors, everyone.Apr 03 00:42
mateyin other words, they only THINK they have common goals, but theyre mistakenApr 03 00:42
mateythats co-opting and exploitationApr 03 00:42
DaemonFCPuts a bunch of taxpayer money from people who chose not to buy GM cars into the company.Apr 03 00:42
mateyits deliberateApr 03 00:42
DaemonFCThen left them with the same corrupt idiots that they had all along, so that it could go under again someday.Apr 03 00:42
mateyso google and microsoft are mortal enemies, for a common causeApr 03 00:43
mateyus peons dont even share the cause.Apr 03 00:43
DaemonFCGM keeps working, lobbying, against having to make products people want to buy.Apr 03 00:43
DaemonFCBecause they know they'll get bailed out again.Apr 03 00:43
mateyso google and microsoft will happily join hands against us. they can kill each other later.Apr 03 00:43
mateygranted its never that simple Apr 03 00:43
mateythey also try to destroy each other every single dayApr 03 00:43
mateywhile holding hands.Apr 03 00:44
DaemonFCMicrooft is a little different. They've been making it aggravating to leave them and things like "Secure Boot" certainly help with that.Apr 03 00:44
mateyand conspiring against a better worldApr 03 00:44
psydruidwhy are so few people willing to get out there to destroy Google and Microsoft?Apr 03 00:44
DaemonFCBecause it's like a 20 step process that's impossible to document to get Windows off of a computer now.Apr 03 00:44
mateywhy are so few people willing to get out there to destroy Google and Microsoft? <- they know its hopelessApr 03 00:44
mateyand theyre half-right.Apr 03 00:44
DaemonFCLenovo released a guide on how to install Debian and it was a PDF with dozens of pages of step-by-step instructions.Apr 03 00:44
DaemonFCHalf of it was firmware-related. :/Apr 03 00:44
mateyi know what i know from my own experience-- as a kid i was like OOH, TECH-- BETTER FUTURE! YAY HUMANITYApr 03 00:45
mateyi shit you notApr 03 00:45
psydruidyou can find interesting articles if you look for "put $ENTITY out of business"Apr 03 00:45
mateyi went through a technoutopian phaseApr 03 00:45
mateyas a child.Apr 03 00:45
DaemonFCMicrosoft wants all of this stuff that causes compatibility problems and bugs on by default precisely because it adds a hill to climb.Apr 03 00:45
mateyi mean we had pieces of space stations and spyplanesApr 03 00:45
mateyand with them, stories of triumph of good over evil, and INNOVA~1 over all oddsApr 03 00:46
mateywhat CANT technology do? its the only way to escape the solar system when it blowsApr 03 00:46
mateybut i got tired of shitty wars and (rightfully, but naively) blamed republicansApr 03 00:47
mateyi got this idea that being liberal was the answerApr 03 00:47
mateyand its very fake, but i thought otherwiseApr 03 00:47
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mateyas it got more openly fake i became sceptical, but the republicans were still losers, i had no interest in themApr 03 00:48
mateytwo things got me into libertarianismApr 03 00:48
matey1. i moved where there were LOTS of libertariansApr 03 00:48
matey2. mostly free software showed me a world (so i thought) where progressive ideas could work without government :)Apr 03 00:49
mateyto me, free software proved that libertarianism wasnt political masturbationApr 03 00:49
mateyand then it fell over and died, so so much for thatApr 03 00:49
mateyoh, and libertarianism is doing JUST GREAT giving zero fucks about the events of the past few yearsApr 03 00:50
mateygood job.Apr 03 00:50
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mateyif i wanted a straw man (an unfair caricature) of libertarianism on that issue, we have crystal for thatApr 03 00:50
mateybut the shoe fitsApr 03 00:51
mateythe only that convinced me (as an adult at least) that maybe something LIKE capitalism could work was free software not getting destroyed by capitalism Apr 03 00:51
mateyand then capitalism destroyed both free software and then its founder in a 2-year spanApr 03 00:52
mateyand the libertarians made a nice stink about itApr 03 00:52
activelow"free software" is a politically motivated misnomerApr 03 00:52
mateyand then proceeded to do PRETTY MUCH fuck-allApr 03 00:52
activelowpsydruid proposed "free computing" instead, to cover freedom of science, academic freedom, free software, and hardware (which cannot be separated from free software)Apr 03 00:52
matey<activelow> "free software" is a politically motivated misnomer <- id protest, if i thought your charge that free sw/free hs was actually a dichotomy was bunkApr 03 00:53
mateypsydruid proposed "free computing" instead <- hes smart like thatApr 03 00:53
mateyfree computing is the futureApr 03 00:53
mateywithout free computing, free software is fuckedApr 03 00:53
mateyand the libertarians proceeded to do PRETTY MUCH fuck-allApr 03 00:54
mateywhich imo (at this point) is a predictable patternApr 03 00:54
mateywashing its hands of everything is what libertarianism does bestApr 03 00:54
mateyit DOES, i suppose, pretend that this is for a good cause. its non-interventionist, they sayApr 03 00:54
mateybut theyre happy to intervene whenever it aligns with their interestsApr 03 00:55
mateyi consider it bunkApr 03 00:55
mateyall that was missing was a viable alternativeApr 03 00:55
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mateyanti-capitalism is nice but it seemed both unnecessary and nearly impossibleApr 03 00:55
mateythat was then, of courseApr 03 00:55
mateyi was mostly neutral about anti-capitalism, and my neutrality invited its advocatesApr 03 00:56
mateywe are convinced that free software and capitalism cannot, will never co-existApr 03 00:56
mateyokay, well i would choose freedom over capitalism any dayApr 03 00:56
mateyi only needed convincing that capitalism will never give us freedomApr 03 00:57
mateyim convincedApr 03 00:57
mateyeither way, it killed free software (for now) and i wont forgive thatApr 03 00:57
mateynot today, not everApr 03 00:57
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mateyit killed one of my ten favourite things in the worldApr 03 00:58
mateythe others wont be named here, though honestly, its not too hard to guessApr 03 00:58
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mateythe weirdest thing i love by far is free softwareApr 03 00:59
bnchsthe techdoomApr 03 00:59
matey <bnchs> the techdoom <- straw manApr 03 00:59
mateyhypemen are destroying the fucking internetApr 03 00:59
bnchswell i'm sorryApr 03 00:59
mateythe hype needs to fucking dieApr 03 00:59
matey <bnchs> well i'm sorry <- im not interested in their bullshitApr 03 01:00
mateythe more they pretend everything is fine, they more they sell free software to fucking aquamanApr 03 01:00
mateyaquaman can start his own fucking software empire imoApr 03 01:00
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mateyrms wasnt exactly mr. happy eitherApr 03 01:00
mateywhen he saw bullshit, thats what he called itApr 03 01:00
mateysome people LIKE bullshitApr 03 01:01
mateyi dont.Apr 03 01:01
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mateyits an insultApr 03 01:01
mateyim being blamed for "doom" when all im saying is "all this happy gumdrop marshmellow crap is going to give you intellectual fucking diabetes"Apr 03 01:01
bnchswell yeahApr 03 01:01
mateyyou know what free software is now?Apr 03 01:01
mateyALL NATURAL.Apr 03 01:01
mateytwo words, used together, to mean absolutely FUCK ALLApr 03 01:02
bnchsmaybe it should be mixed with a little saltApr 03 01:02
mateyand all im saying isApr 03 01:02
mateydying from cancer is ALL NATURALApr 03 01:02
bnchsmaybeApr 03 01:02
mateyaids is all naturalApr 03 01:02
bnchsbut i shouldnt get 200% salrApr 03 01:02
mateybut i shouldnt get 200% salr <- ?Apr 03 01:02
activelowfree software? a facade, a misnomer.Apr 03 01:02
bnchsyes it shouldnt be 100% sweetApr 03 01:03
bnchsnor 100% saltApr 03 01:03
bnchsyou can mix a little saltApr 03 01:03
mateyyou may have missed it when psydroid talked about quitting computing altogetherApr 03 01:03
mateyand i said no, that would be a terrible ideaApr 03 01:03
bnchsbut maybe i dont want to have intellectual diabetes nor demovitationApr 03 01:04
matey" nor demovitation" motivation based on bullshit only leads people to self-defeatApr 03 01:04
mateyif you want a pep talk, ill give you one based on things i think will actually help youApr 03 01:04
mateynot based on blowing sunshine up your anusApr 03 01:04
mateyits not fucking hopelessApr 03 01:04
bnchsyeah i knowApr 03 01:04
mateyits just REALLY BADApr 03 01:04
mateymost of my associates are more optimistic than i amApr 03 01:05
mateybut theres a reason for thatApr 03 01:05
mateyand its not because theyre dumb. its because they know more about the things that give them hopeApr 03 01:06
mateythe more i learn about those things, the more optimistic i amApr 03 01:06
bnchsi'm optimisticApr 03 01:06
mateybut optimism for optimisms sake is ignoranceApr 03 01:06
bnchsbecause i do see a future in computingApr 03 01:06
mateyi do tooApr 03 01:06
bnchsgiving up would make it worseApr 03 01:06
mateyi agreeApr 03 01:06
mateyand i told psydroid that in this very conversationApr 03 01:06
mateybut all the bullshitters out there, what they do isApr 03 01:07
mateythey say "join us! we can help you fight!"Apr 03 01:07
bnchsohApr 03 01:07
mateyand you waste a year or two and realise they never cared about any of thatApr 03 01:07
mateythey liedApr 03 01:07
activelowgiven the compiler situation, i am having difficulties to envision any future for "free software"Apr 03 01:07
matey <activelow> given the compiler situation, i am having difficulties to envision any future for "free software" <- thats because the real future is in newer, simpler compilersApr 03 01:08
mateyit doesnt mean eradicating all the complex onesApr 03 01:08
activelowexactly, however, "free software" cannot be compiled with thoseApr 03 01:08
mateyit means NOT building everything to RELY on thoseApr 03 01:08
matey"free software" cannot be compiled with those <- as-is.Apr 03 01:08
mateytrue enough. but not hopelessApr 03 01:08
psydruidI wouldn't completely give up on computing, but in the context of making a living developing software that means nothing to meApr 03 01:08
mateybut in the context of making a living developing software <- i mean i consider that an incredible waste of time, yesApr 03 01:09
activelowgcc-4.7 is rather old already, no aarch64 support yet, at least sufficed to verify some base-system profile with, in preparation for tinyccApr 03 01:09
mateybut if someone has the time and makes the moneyApr 03 01:09
mateyand still understands whats at stake and gives a shit and acts on that...Apr 03 01:09
psydruidbecause look at all of those job ads, they're terribleApr 03 01:09
mateywell the industry is a mountain of shit, theres no questionApr 03 01:09
mateyid rather arrange flowers for a living than write software for a companyApr 03 01:09
mateythanks to monsanto of course, id almost certainly be arranging flowers for microsoft-- I MEAN THIS IS GETTING FUCKING RIDICULOUS!Apr 03 01:10
mateyand the flowers example wasnt a setup for that punchline-- it goes back to when i was in my 20s.Apr 03 01:10
mateydont look for a job with an ethical industry thoughApr 03 01:13
mateythere arent any ethical industriesApr 03 01:13
mateyi dont blame you for avoiding the it industry though, it will eat your soulApr 03 01:14
mateytheres a strong argument to be made for avoiding the industry closest to what you love to doApr 03 01:14
psydruidI already worked in that industry and it ate my soulApr 03 01:14
mateyso lesson learnedApr 03 01:14
mateywork for an industry, if any, that isnt so close to what you really loveApr 03 01:15
mateyits not like you have to do something you hate, or that you dont care about at allApr 03 01:15
psydruidso I am not looking forward to being sucked back into something that has since turned into something even worseApr 03 01:15
mateybut at least try to keep your favourite thing away fro your jobApr 03 01:15
matey<psydruid> so I am not looking forward to being sucked back into something that has since turned into something even worse <- so it your wayApr 03 01:16
mateyso do it your way ^Apr 03 01:16
mateyand fuck what the industry wantsApr 03 01:16
mateyafter all, the industry loves a summer romanceApr 03 01:16
mateythe only thing microsoft is married to is windows, and thats going about as well as bill and melinda right nowApr 03 01:16
mateythe industry likes to stick and moveApr 03 01:16
mateyit will give up on systemd-- after systemd has destroyed everything in its wakeApr 03 01:17
mateyso wiating for systemd to be abandoned is a failing strategy that ignores its intended purposeApr 03 01:18
psydruidI don't know anything about windows and I don't know how to write anything but generic software for it in C, C++, Java and ScalaApr 03 01:18
mateyand thats just an example of a very typical patternApr 03 01:18
matey I don't know anything about windows <- windows is utterly uselessApr 03 01:18
mateyi followed reactos for years and gave upApr 03 01:18
mateyive got a screen cap of my favourite programming language running in reactosApr 03 01:18
mateyjust getting python installed in ros was a fucking hootApr 03 01:19
psydruidReactOS devs are hardcore Microsoft fansApr 03 01:19
mateyyep, their work is of no use to meApr 03 01:19
psydruidthat is their biggest problemApr 03 01:19
mateyexcept they sometimes help wineApr 03 01:19
mateyand ive used wine for a couple thingsApr 03 01:19
mateyprobably never again.Apr 03 01:19
mateyif you stop using the linux kernel, wine... does what exactly?Apr 03 01:20
mateybut even when i used gnu/linux my use of wine was incredibly spareApr 03 01:20
psydruidLinux developers at least made changes compared to Solaris and BSD where they deemed those adequateApr 03 01:20
mateynot always for the betterApr 03 01:20
mateybut i wont pretend all of that was uselessApr 03 01:20
mateyi even like the gnu version of cut better than the openbsd versionApr 03 01:21
mateybut awk fulfils the same purpose without bothering to compile cut from gnuApr 03 01:21
mateyand i mean awk, not gnu awkApr 03 01:21
mateythe people point to the gnu coding standards being obsoleteApr 03 01:22
mateymaybe its fud, it seems legitApr 03 01:22
activelowlong-term i'll not accept anything into the bapho base system which doesn't compile with TinyCC; let's see what remainsApr 03 01:23
activelowcurrently, i haven't got a kernel anymore, given thisApr 03 01:23
activelowsituationApr 03 01:23
matey currently, i haven't got a kernel anymore <- thats so gnuApr 03 01:23
mateyyou should call it baphgnuosApr 03 01:24
activelowtinycc isn't a gnu project, although it is gpl2 iircApr 03 01:24
mateytinycc isn't a gnu projec <- its listed in the fsd at leastApr 03 01:24
activelowi feel that desperate about it; i am considering to fully depart into 8/16bit realm with free hardware thereApr 03 01:24
mateyi feel that desperate about it; i am considering to fully depart into 8/16bit realm with free hardware there <- if thats what it takesApr 03 01:25
activelowand, i required almost a decade, to review thisApr 03 01:25
mateyone of the people who talked at libreplanet this year has a 6502 internet projectApr 03 01:25
mateyon hackadayApr 03 01:25
activelowneedless to say, without income generatedApr 03 01:25
matey needless to say, without income generated <- what do you live on, pension or savings?Apr 03 01:26
activelowyet, the entire 8/16bit realm is only interesting if, and only if, it is free hardware, and doesn't require proprietary tooling nearbyApr 03 01:26
activelowwhich is often the case, microchip vendors and tools require an IBM Wintel PC nearby, to program, flash, compile whateverApr 03 01:26
mateyyet, the entire 8/16bit realm is only interesting if, and only if, it is free hardware, and doesn't require proprietary tooling nearby <- fairApr 03 01:26
activelowAltera? Xilinx? no thanks.Apr 03 01:26
psydruidI wouldn't go below 32-bit and ideally 64-bitApr 03 01:26
mateyi dont like 64 bit because it demands so much ramApr 03 01:27
psydruidbut doing free computing with those may be tricky or even impossibleApr 03 01:27
mateyon a machine with "only" a few gigs, its such a wasteApr 03 01:27
matey or even impossible <- lrowe and i see hope there, maybe its realApr 03 01:28
psydruidon ARM it's a completely different instruction setApr 03 01:28
mateyof courseApr 03 01:28
psydruidthat is much saner than whatever came beforeApr 03 01:28
mateyi hear the nvidia deal flounderedApr 03 01:29
mateywhen i heard this, i linked to the crab raveApr 03 01:29
activelowfree computing didn't arrive at anything "better" than 8/16bit Z80/Gigatron/6502 yetApr 03 01:29
mateyit seemed the  most appropriate responseApr 03 01:29
activelowand even then, as soon as a digital scope is nearby, those aren't freeApr 03 01:30
activelowmeanwhile, analog scope manufacturing seems gone, inclduding traditional vendors such as Rohde&Schwarz or Hameg... they're all digital nowApr 03 01:31
psydruidI've read that the simplest RISC-V core requires only 20,000 gatesApr 03 01:31
activelowequipped with Xilinx, and gorious support from IBM WintelApr 03 01:31
psydruidwhich is still a lot more than what Sam Zeloof can work withApr 03 01:31
psydruidbut I think it should be doable in the not too distant futureApr 03 01:32
mateyevery time ive moved from one platform to anotherApr 03 01:33
activelowthat's another issue with "free software", the priorities, of what's important and what isn'tApr 03 01:33
matey the priorities, of what's important and what isn't <- no shit Apr 03 01:33
mateyevery time ive moved from one platform to another, ive prioritised one thingApr 03 01:34
mateya toolset that is as portable from one platform to another as possibleApr 03 01:34
psydruidhttps://semiengineering.com/a-minimal-risc-v/Apr 03 01:34
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activelowmatey: pencil and paperApr 03 01:34
mateyby the time i moved to openbsd, i had practically nothing that wouldnt either run on bsd, or be trivial to adapt to itApr 03 01:35
mateyone notable exception is my distro project-- it mostly relies on things that are gnu/linux-onlyApr 03 01:35
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mateybut my distro project was based on the idea that gnu/linux could be salvagedApr 03 01:35
mateyi find little evidence for that Apr 03 01:35
psydruida large part of that is not becoming dependent on anything that is specific to an operating systemApr 03 01:36
mateyi also had no alternatives at the timeApr 03 01:36
mateya large part of that is not becoming dependent on anything that is specific to an operating system <- this is mostly a simpler way of saying what i was trying to sayApr 03 01:36
mateyat least its most of what i was trying to sayApr 03 01:36
mateygnu is doing nothing to keep track of the war against itApr 03 01:37
mateyi find no evidence that the fsf is keeping track of the war against itApr 03 01:37
mateygnu is busy installing screen doors on its submarinesApr 03 01:37
psydruidthe fsf will exist until some day it doesn'tApr 03 01:38
mateyi wonder how long it will take exactlyApr 03 01:38
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matey10% of it will be around a whole lot longer than 90% of itApr 03 01:39
mateysort of like nprApr 03 01:39
mateyive been comparing the fsf to npr for yearsApr 03 01:39
activelownpr?Apr 03 01:39
mateyamerican national public radioApr 03 01:39
mateysimilar idea as bbc radio but americanApr 03 01:39
mateysabotaged by nixon many decades agoApr 03 01:40
mateyand bush junior a couple decades agoApr 03 01:40
mateyand absolutely no bachman turner overdrive (though some might consider it a plus, listeners)Apr 03 01:40
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mateybnchs whats your favourite thing about tech (preferably software)Apr 03 01:41
mateyim a  hypocrite, probably my favourite thing at the moment is the idea of free siliconApr 03 01:42
mateyit cant be helpedApr 03 01:42
psydruidwe had to wait for such a long time for open instruction sets to become available, although there was already openriscApr 03 01:44
activelow68k, mips/32, sparc/64, z80, 6502, gigatronApr 03 01:45
activelow10mbit ethernet is available, usb1Apr 03 01:45
activelowdon't know, about hdmi and/or vgaApr 03 01:46
activelowalmost forgot, j-core turtle boardApr 03 01:46
matey we had to wait for such a long time for open instruction sets to become available <- although i foresaw fpga, i honestly didnt think industry had it in it to allow such a thing to existApr 03 01:46
mateyi was very excited to see a picture of one on the cover of scientific americanApr 03 01:47
activelowcurrently, there isn't at least some 100% free and opensource (both hardware and software) VT100 VGA/PS2 terminalApr 03 01:47
mateyit wasnt as exciting as the moon landing, which i wasnt around for of course, but something changedApr 03 01:47
mateyfpgas are a big deal imo. and free silicon brings that feeling with itApr 03 01:48
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activelowsome ICE40 from Olimex seemed decent, with 512KiB SRAM, however this wouldn't be fast enough for VGA 640x480 16 colors, to terminate VT100 withApr 03 01:49
matey/me thinks olimex are cuntsApr 03 01:49
psydruidwe should have a lot more vendors of fpgasApr 03 01:49
activelowmatey: why?Apr 03 01:49
mateyi talked to one of them, he seemed like oneApr 03 01:50
mateyi admit this isnt terribly scientificApr 03 01:50
mateythen again if i phrased it that way, i wouldnt expect anyone to mistake it for the results of a harvard studyApr 03 01:50
mateyat any rate my point in saying so was only thisApr 03 01:50
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mateyif olimex doesnt have the solution to your issue, meh, just keep lookingApr 03 01:50
activelowwith gigatron ttl i am not entirely sure, about the software, and the ROMApr 03 01:51
activelowin any case, with free computing, there won't be internet anymoreApr 03 01:51
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psydruidthe only way to find out is to tryApr 03 01:51
mateywith free computing, there won't be internet anymore <- if you see it as only removing things, okayApr 03 01:51
mateyi am focused on removing things from a list of what i consider truly free softwareApr 03 01:52
mateybutApr 03 01:52
mateythats just the first stepApr 03 01:52
mateyonce we have enough idea whats free, we can build up againApr 03 01:52
mateyand of course, just because im busy measuring, im not telling anybody to wait until im ready Apr 03 01:52
mateyif they want to go ahead and make something REALLY REALLY free right now, im not telling them not toApr 03 01:53
activelowthe idea, to limit compiler to TinyCC, is a first criteria, to see what remains (both hardware and software)Apr 03 01:53
mateyits a good ideaApr 03 01:53
activelowi'll keep BaphometOS, with as little maintenance as possible, to navigate some books and things necessary; and rather focus on z80/gigatron stuffApr 03 01:54
activelow1) finish BaphometOS, to fully replace/drop GCC entirely, and compile everything beginning from u-boot loader, kernel, and the userspace with TinyCCApr 03 01:55
activelowcurrently, i downgraded gcc to v4.7, and patched kernel to remove some c11 voodooApr 03 01:55
matey/me thinks a german fork of "u-boot" would be too fucking funnyApr 03 01:56
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psydruidI think it is GermanApr 03 01:56
mateythats funnyApr 03 01:56
mateyits only one letter different from u-boatApr 03 01:56
psydruidit was originally ppcbootApr 03 01:56
mateymaybe it was deliberate thenApr 03 01:57
psydruiddas u-bootApr 03 01:57
mateydeliberate then? Apr 03 01:57
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mateyall this time it was pun intended and i didnt know?Apr 03 01:57
psydruidit looks like itApr 03 01:57
mateyffsApr 03 01:57
activelow2) then depart to gitatron/z80/...; because i doubt it will be possible to keep at least BaphometOS alive (c-only/no-c++ uboot, kernel, userspace)Apr 03 01:57
activelowwith u-boot, a nasty dependency sneaked into, to support their FDT firmware format: python swift -> c++Apr 03 01:57
mateyi think if enough people know about baphometos someone might keep it alive in spirit at leastApr 03 01:58
activelowso, an older version of u-boot is required maybe (not sure yet), and with it, even older aarch32 hardware, if at allApr 03 01:58
mateybe nice if someone did the same for openbsd Apr 03 01:58
activelowanyway, this won't be acceptable to BaphometOS: UEFI or any proprietary firmware for GPU/WiFi, proprietary BIOSApr 03 01:58
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mateygoodApr 03 01:59
mateywhat youve created is a really good tool for exposing industry doublespeakApr 03 01:59
psydruidthese cheap boards are much more powerful than what they're being given credit forApr 03 02:00
activelowto bring back TinyCC, i'll need to implement some missing ASM processing for aarch32 (aarch64 asm isn't supported at all yet)Apr 03 02:00
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psydruideven the lowest-end chips are more powerful than Pentium III processorsApr 03 02:01
activelowmaybe, it is possible to implement RISC-V, or SH2 for tinycc; however that has no priority; and before that, any known-good architecture needs to be verified, such as aarch32 to compile u-boot and kernelApr 03 02:01
psydruidit's just that software became worse fasterApr 03 02:02
activelowsoon, i'll know, if and how much of the baphomet userspace compiles with tinycc (aarch32), and how fastApr 03 02:02
activelowat first glance, i had seen pass some autoconf/configure runs already, with tinycc in place, and this was alot faster already than gcc-4.7, although there was little to nothing to compile during configure phaseApr 03 02:03
matey<psydruid> it's just that software became worse faster <- because industry is a fucking fashion showApr 03 02:04
activelownow imagine this, the bigger compile jobs, if an entire distro can be compiled in an hour or two, on a tiny cortex a53 quadcore, with 1GiB RAMApr 03 02:04
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activelowwhich too is a huge leap, for free and opensource software, to actually work from source, always, and this being fast and efficientApr 03 02:05
activelowand a cheapo RPI3 sufficed for thisApr 03 02:05
activelowwhich is another reason, why "free software" is a misnomer, because most "distros" are distributed as binaryApr 03 02:07
activelowwith the argument, that's supposedly faster, instead of asking why source-based workflow was slow and cumbersomeApr 03 02:08
activelowbtw. the first *nix i worked with wasn't GNU/Linux, it was OpenBSD i learned with, because OpenBSD actually did take care, developers can work efficiently from _source_Apr 03 02:11
activelowhowever, i did realize, the complex dependency tracking necessary, wasn't possible anymore, hence gentoo portageApr 03 02:12
activelowyet, this reasoning is relatively shallow, given the severity of issues involved, with the status of free software, free computing, and academic freedomApr 03 02:12
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mateywith the status of free software, free computing, and academic freedom <- indeedApr 03 02:14
techrights-newsThis Kyle Wiens talk, “repair is not a crime”, is an excellent talk about how warranty-voiding stickers are basically illegal http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/fight-to-repair/Apr 03 02:16
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mateyby the way mincer schestowitz this is from 2019, regarding this code of conduct / code of ethics stuffApr 03 02:18
techrights-newsUbuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) Final Beta released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33268Apr 03 02:18
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mateyi havent looked at this since 2019, i just found it while going through some filesApr 03 02:18
matey> Have an organizational wide policy document that applies to all staff, directors, and representatives. It should explain the purpose of the org, how decisions are made, what its values are, etc. And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directorsApr 03 02:18
mateythats joshua gayApr 03 02:19
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mateyi was highly critical of what he was saying... but note this wording:Apr 03 02:19
matey" And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy"Apr 03 02:19
mateyhere its 2022 and the big agenda is adding a "code of (corporate, hypocritical, whataboutist) 'ethics'" to the existing code of conductApr 03 02:20
mateyand joshua gay already had that on his wishlist in 2019Apr 03 02:20
schestowitz-TRwithout CoC, how can corporations eject people?Apr 03 02:21
schestowitz-TRcan we have a CoC for rejecting unwanted corporations?Apr 03 02:21
mateyno because thats reversismApr 03 02:21
mateywhich is the doctrine that you cant make any conduct or ethical policy that works both waysApr 03 02:21
schestowitz-TRright, and companies are "people"Apr 03 02:22
schestowitz-TRand feel "hurt"Apr 03 02:22
mateythat would defeat the entire goal of it being one-sided, hypocritical, opportunist and altogether bullshitApr 03 02:22
schestowitz-TRmicrosoct cried for DAYSApr 03 02:22
mateyall the way to the swiss bankApr 03 02:22
schestowitz-TRbecause people said Microsoft was naughty for serving ICEApr 03 02:22
mateyrightApr 03 02:22
mateyinstead of thinking about the victims of ice nazisApr 03 02:22
mateywe should consider the feelings of people making millions in suits and tiesApr 03 02:23
mateygoddamnit theyre people too (sort of)Apr 03 02:23
mateybut the thing isApr 03 02:24
mateythe coup has wanted this code of ethics bullshitApr 03 02:24
matey(it is bullshit, because these things are always opportunist, hypocritical and one-sided) since 2019Apr 03 02:24
matey"And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directors" joshua gayApr 03 02:24
mateyi dont even know where its fromApr 03 02:25
techrights-news"I've been meaning to try about Sway and Wayland for quite a while and now it's finally happening but was it worth the wait and will I keep using, you'll find out today." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0BLH1QMtiBAApr 03 02:25
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mateybut i know i quoted it and then provided my own commentaryApr 03 02:25
mateyand its dated 2019Apr 03 02:25
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mateyit could even be from chat logs for all i knowApr 03 02:25
DaemonFCI haven't heard mjg59_ make an opinion on the Microsoft GitHub Loves I.C.E. issue. I'd love to, considering that he was using GitHub I believe, last I checked.Apr 03 02:26
mateyim 80% sure its from twitter thoughApr 03 02:26
DaemonFCFor his "kernel lockdown" stuff.Apr 03 02:26
matey"Here are some ideas to consider as the @fsf board and @johns_FSF plot a course for the future."Apr 03 02:26
mateyi should also of course give a giant flying fuck about johns_FSF and his feelingsApr 03 02:27
DaemonFCMicrosoft. Where I.C.E. goes to run their internment camps.Apr 03 02:27
DaemonFCVery SJW friendly, those people.Apr 03 02:27
matey"the @fsf board and @johns_FSF"Apr 03 02:27
DaemonFCLike literally, they comment on his Shitter account and everything.Apr 03 02:27
mateyjohns_fsf left, but the board did their code of ethics anywayApr 03 02:27
mateythis yearApr 03 02:27
DaemonFCSometimes even about ME!Apr 03 02:28
mateyit was josh that wanted it, so it must be a good ideaApr 03 02:28
DaemonFCThis Ubuntu image is massive.Apr 03 02:28
DaemonFCNearly 3 GB now. :/Apr 03 02:28
mateyoh and just to tie it into the coup... heres the dateApr 03 02:29
matey18 Sep 2019Apr 03 02:29
DaemonFCRemember when it fit on a CD?Apr 03 02:29
mateyhave a coup, wait 3 years, implement what the coup wants and then call it "a failure"Apr 03 02:29
DaemonFCEh, Windows 10 needed at least 16 GB for the thumb drive.Apr 03 02:29
mateygreat plan, fsfApr 03 02:29
DaemonFCShould be enough for anyone, really.Apr 03 02:29
matey*thumbs up*Apr 03 02:29
matey) Have an organizational wide policy document that applies to all staff, directors, and representatives. It should explain the purpose of the org, how decisions are made, what its values are, etc. And it must have a code of conduct/ethics policy for all employees and directorsApr 03 02:30
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mateythey did this in 2022 as well:Apr 03 02:30
matey3) With a real policy framework, consider becoming a true membership orgApr 03 02:30
matey"where members can form committees and can be more directly involved."Apr 03 02:30
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mateythe boards take on this (so far) is to let them nominate board membersApr 03 02:31
mateythat was implemented in 2022Apr 03 02:31
mateyjosh wanted it two days after stallman was oustedApr 03 02:31
mateytechrights called it progressApr 03 02:31
mateyi said (2 1/2 years ago) that done wrong, these things would make the fsf more like osiApr 03 02:32
mateywith the same vulnerabilities to (further) corporate takeoverApr 03 02:32
mateysimilar to the "transformation" under phipps, followed by microsoft occupying and gutting itApr 03 02:32
mateyim sure that wont happen to the fsf though, because of exceptionalismApr 03 02:33
mateythe fsf can do exactly what osi did, and magically things wont turn out the same wayApr 03 02:33
mateythats the power of gnuApr 03 02:33
mateyi guess we will see soon enoughApr 03 02:33
mateymaybe the state of free software will be "the state of free software and how we can give joshua gay everything he asked for on behalf of whomever"Apr 03 02:34
mateyby the way, where did he go after he left the fsf?Apr 03 02:34
mateymaybe it will give us some clue who he was speaking for (no guarantee, it wasnt necessarily tied to his professional work)Apr 03 02:34
mateyi know that joshua gay isnt the mastermind of all thisApr 03 02:35
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mateyby the way, i should also point this out:Apr 03 02:36
matey4) Holding copyright, the GNU trademark, and setting policy for GNU via control of certain essential documents make you more than just a sponsor of the GNU Project.Apr 03 02:36
mateyso the next item on the agenda IS to make the fsf to the gnu trademark closer to what lf is to the  linux trademarkApr 03 02:37
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mateythatll be Great.Apr 03 02:37
mateyof course when it happens, people will say its a good idea, and paint it as progressApr 03 02:38
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mateythey could blow the planet into 5 separate pieces and make it sound like a great ideaApr 03 02:38
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matey"theres a chance theyll all just drive off into space, but we suspect that theyll continue their orbit around the sun and it wont plunge say, north america into darkness or face-first collision with asia"Apr 03 02:39
mateydrift. drive is a funnier picture.Apr 03 02:39
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schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.htmlApr 03 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Microsoft rightly withdrew support for ACT | The App(le) Association (which it once created) -- why are Verizon, Intel, AT&T, Verisign still behind advocacy against 99.9% of app developers?Apr 03 02:40
schestowitz"I applaud Microsoft for finally (I had been waiting for this for about a year) having withdrawn its support for ACT | The App Association, which by now should more accurately be called ACT | The Apple Association."Apr 03 02:40
schestowitz "I applaud Microsoft "Apr 03 02:40
schestowitzThey paid himApr 03 02:40
mateymost likelyApr 03 02:40
mateyand of course of all the things microsoft supportsApr 03 02:41
mateyact | apple was the worst of it by farApr 03 02:41
mateyhell they could polish their image just by subscribing to a bunch of wank then "withdrawing support"Apr 03 02:42
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-02.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-02.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Apr 03 02:42
mateywhy notApr 03 02:42
techrights-news"Dr. Roy Schestowitz is the #1 Microsoft hater." http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.htmlApr 03 02:42
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techrights-newsCisco calling everything clown https://www.fiercetelecom.com/cloud/ciscos-intersight-hci-platform-supports-kubernetes-clustersApr 03 02:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Cisco’s Intersight hybrid cloud supports Kubernetes clusters | Fierce TelecomApr 03 02:46
DaemonFCThe new theme in Ubuntu 22.04 is nice at least.Apr 03 02:49
techrights-newsIdiots pushing spy meters, in-house surveillance essentially, based on fictional claims of "savings" https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/kettle-trick-save-energy-bills-23527816Apr 03 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/kettle-trick-save-energy-bills-23527816 )Apr 03 02:51
techrights-newsAnd pushing spy meters again https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/meter-reading-energy-price-april-23518966Apr 03 02:52
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techrights-newsIntelligent [sic] escalator https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-09498-xApr 03 02:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | Intelligent escalator passenger safety management | Scientific ReportsApr 03 02:54
techrights-newsBoston Dynamics: when we don't kill people we at least kill people's jobs https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/boston_dynamics_robot_stretch/Apr 03 02:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Boston Dynamics' latest robot is a warehouse workhorse • The RegisterApr 03 02:54
techrights-newsWales Online rewriting Falklands War "history"; our regime will do a lot of work on revisionism, to highlight UK role in a flattering way...Apr 03 02:56
techrights-newsApril 3: Argentine forces take South Georgia.Apr 03 02:58
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techrights-newsforbes propping up scams. "NFT".. "crypto"... "Web3" https://www.forbes.com/sites/hessiejones/2022/04/02/web3-2be-or-not-2be/Apr 03 02:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | WEB3: 2Be Or Not 2BeApr 03 02:59
techrights-newsUSA TODAY sees Russian invasion that left tens of thousands dead already.... as a BUSINESS issue https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/03/27/ukraine-tech-industry-russia-war/9457984002/Apr 03 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Ukraine is a hotbed of tech talent. disrupted by Russia warApr 03 02:59
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techrights-newsEl Reg adopted Microsoft lobbying term, "Big Tech" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/in_brief_security/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Apr 03 03:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Fraudsters use 'fake emergency data requests' to steal info • The RegisterApr 03 03:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsApr 03 03:01
techrights-newsWith Windows, even the keyboards stop working properly! https://www.guidingtech.com/top-ways-to-fix-keyboard-lag-on-windows-11/Apr 03 03:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guidingtech.com | Top 8 Ways to Fix Keyboard Lag on Windows 11 - Guiding TechApr 03 03:03
techrights-newsDecades-long Microsoft propagandist Paul Thurrott covering up for Microsoft back doors and other inherently security issues https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/265150/google-claims-microsoft-makes-governments-less-secureApr 03 03:04
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techrights-news"So, by destructive commands, Viasat meant: modems were commanded by their compromised support servers to run destructive malware." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/sentinelone_wiper_viasat/Apr 03 03:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Modem-wiping malware caused Viasat broadband outage • The RegisterApr 03 03:06
techrights-newsU.S. Supreme Court takes up copyright battle over Warhol's Prince paintings | Reuters ⚓ https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/us-supreme-court-decide-copyright-fight-over-warhols-prince-paintings-2022-03-28/ ䷉ Source: reutersApr 03 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Supreme Court takes up copyright battle over Warhol's Prince paintings | ReutersApr 03 03:07
techrights-newsWell, a talent crisis of find-excuses-to-lower-salaries crisis? https://www.afr.com/technology/start-ups-demand-skills-spending-in-budget-to-fix-talent-crisis-20220328-p5a8m0Apr 03 03:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.afr.com | Start-ups demand skills spending in budget to fix talent crisisApr 03 03:08
techrights-newsHEY HI or just some computer program they describe using buzzwords? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10659143/AI-software-predict-daily-E-admissions-rolled-100-NHS-hospitals-TODAY.htmlApr 03 03:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | AI software that can predict daily A&E admissions is rolled out in 100 NHS hospitals TODAY | Daily Mail OnlineApr 03 03:09
techrights-newsUSA TODAY thinks of war as a BUSINESS issue https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/03/27/ukraine-tech-industry-russia-war/9457984002/Apr 03 03:10
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techrights-ipfs-bot☞ Gemini requests since start of month:   69473 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 40001 •     Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 23 days agoApr 03 03:10
techrights-newsUS xenophobia https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/baidu_iqiyi_hfcaa_listing/Apr 03 03:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China's Baidu facing US stock exchange delisting • The RegisterApr 03 03:11
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techrights-newsEl Reg writes about mindless buzzwords, citing Microsoft propaganda outfit Forrester Research [sic] https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/02/asus-tinker-edge-r-sbc-with-3gb-ram-rockchip-rk3399pro/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/ForresterApr 03 03:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | ASUS Tinker Edge R SBC with 3GB RAM, Rockchip RK3399Pro sells for $179 - CNX SoftwareApr 03 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forrester - TechrightsApr 03 03:12
techrights-ipfs-bot☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.Apr 03 03:12
techrights-newsMicrosoft = crime and corruption, Organised Crime https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/valuelicensing_microsoft_latest/Apr 03 03:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft tries to strike out £270m UKValueLicensing suit • The RegisterApr 03 03:13
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techrights-newsApple never cared about security; it's a "rat" for the NSA https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/apple_emergency_patches/Apr 03 03:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple patches 'exploited' macOS, iOS, iPadOS security bugs • The RegisterApr 03 03:14
techrights-news"Michael Barker surveys some of the alternative APIs available on various platforms, discussing some of the implementation pitfalls. He also looks at the impact of using these APIs." https://www.infoq.com/presentations/posix-networking-api/Apr 03 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Beyond POSIX - Adventures in Alternative Networking APIsApr 03 03:16
techrights-news"Tomorrow will be four years to the day that I started this site." Boosting Gulag. But at least a GNU/Linux based OS. https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/as-lacros-for-chromebooks-nears-is-it-time-for-more-google-chrome-coverage/Apr 03 03:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | As Lacros for Chromebooks nears, is it time for more Google Chrome coverage? – About ChromebooksApr 03 03:17
techrights-newsPerfect fit for Microsoft! https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/activision-blizzard-settlementApr 03 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Activision Blizzard settles federal sexual harassment suit, but its legal woes are just beginning - ProtocolApr 03 03:20
techrights-newsISIS partner and patent troll Ericsson embraces mindless buzzword to sell hype and more buzzwords https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/5g-architecture-for-hybrid-and-multi-cloud-environmentsApr 03 03:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5G architecture for hybrid and multi-cloud environments - EricssonApr 03 03:21
techrights-newsMindless greenwashing of massive polluters like Google and Microsoft https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/corporate-procurement/can-24-7-carbon-free-energy-become-a-global-standard see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/Apr 03 03:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | TechrightsApr 03 03:23
techrights-newsBitcoin’s proof of work mechanism is a climate disaster. Environmental groups have a fix. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/bitcoin-mining-proof-of-workApr 03 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Climate groups start bitcoin campaign to reduce energy use - ProtocolApr 03 03:24
techrights-newsGet rid of the darn patents; Biden has done virtually nothing except he talked about it. https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/biden-seeks-21b-funding-boost-fda-part-pan-agency-pandemic-preparedness-planApr 03 03:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercebiotech.com | Biden seeks $2.1B funding boost for FDA, part of pan-agency pandemic preparedness plan | Fierce BiotechApr 03 03:24
techrights-newsPushing plagiarism for the Microsoft criminals who came up with this thing https://www.infoworld.com/article/3655991/github-copilot-available-for-microsoft-visual-studio-2022.html see http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/Apr 03 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub Copilot available for Microsoft Visual Studio 2022 | InfoWorldApr 03 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | TechrightsApr 03 03:26
techrights-newsClown computing hype, as if hosting did not predate the hype wave https://mindmatters.ai/2022/03/getting-started-with-kubernetes-a-brief-history-of-cloud-hosting/Apr 03 03:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mindmatters.ai | Getting Started with Kubernetes: A Brief History of Cloud Hosting | Mind MattersApr 03 03:27
techrights-newsWhat if OpenSSF does not pursue real security? https://itbrief.co.nz/story/free-security-training-from-the-open-source-security-foundation http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/Apr 03 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itbrief.co.nz | Free security training from the Open Source Security FoundationApr 03 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It’s About Back Doors — Not Real Security — Inside the Linux Foundation | TechrightsApr 03 03:28
techrights-newsMozilla keeps messing up the Firefox UI https://www.osnews.com/story/134730/firefox-ui-ux-history/Apr 03 03:29
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techrights-newsMore Linux Foundation puff pieces/ads https://devops.com/fixing-spring4shell-starts-with-software-supply-chain-management/Apr 03 03:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fixing Spring4Shell Starts With Software Supply Chain Management - DevOps.comApr 03 03:31
techrights-news"OpenStack's 25th release brings the usual crop of new features to the open-source cloud platform, including support for DPUs, better integration with Prometheus and Kubernetes, and a handy un-delete feature for file system shares." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/openstack_yoga_stretches_to_support/Apr 03 03:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | OpenStack Yoga marks 12 years of the framework • The RegisterApr 03 03:32
techrights-newsand harms culture https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2022/04/02/side-door-home-concert-app-music-industry-tech-sxsw-presentation-dan-mangan/stories/202203170144Apr 03 03:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New tech revolutionizes the music industry, one house concert at a time | Pittsburgh Post-GazetteApr 03 03:33
techrights-newsImagine not being able to add fuel to your car anonymously https://insideevs.com/news/576531/new-charging-protocol-tesla-supercharger-convenience/Apr 03 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insideevs.com | New Charging Protocol May Bring Tesla Supercharger Convenience To All EVsApr 03 03:34
techrights-newsThis is the distro I now use on a new machine https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/neon-a-wannabe-linux-distro-for-kde-lovers-86133.htmlApr 03 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neon: A Wannabe Linux Distro For KDE Lovers | LinuxInsiderApr 03 03:35
techrights-newsDDOS attack on Techrights at the moment... mitigatingApr 03 03:36
techrights-newsNSA developed more malicious spying programs; its concern isn't human rights but people who speak about it https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/nsa_employee_secret_data_leak/Apr 03 03:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | NSA employee indicted for 'leaking top secret defense info' • The RegisterApr 03 03:37
techrights-newsRegimes that do not respect the desires of home to be and remain COVID-free https://chicagomaroon.com/article/2022/3/30/classroom-settings-go-mask-optional-starting-april-4/Apr 03 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicagomaroon.com | Most Classroom Settings to Go Mask-Optional Starting April 4Apr 03 03:38
schestowitz(cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D191.jpgApr 03 03:39
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techrights-newsRoberto Innocenti on Open Hardware PowerPC Notebook | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/Apr 03 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Roberto Innocenti on Open Hardware PowerPC Notebook | TechrightsApr 03 04:01
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techrights-newsJWMDesk 3.5.1 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163293Apr 03 04:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JWMDesk 3.5.1 released | Tux MachinesApr 03 04:08
AdmFubar1Here we go!    SHAabM  (security hype as a business Model) https://arstechnica.com/?p=1845362Apr 03 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Explaining Spring4Shell: The Internet security disaster that wasn’t | Ars TechnicaApr 03 04:31
techrights-newsSoftware Freedom is not enough when hardware becomes increasingly restrictive and opaque. This is where people like Roberto Innocenti step in. http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/open-hardware-powerpc-notebook/Apr 03 04:44
techrights-newsShill and liar IDC promoting the scam of clown computing, using false dichotomies for outsourcing (guess who pays IDC) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/idc_public_cloud_spending/Apr 03 04:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Public clouds to surpass non-cloud spending this year • The RegisterApr 03 04:45
techrights-newsResource and energy hog. Go home, Intel. You are drunk. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/intel-arc-graphics-chipsApr 03 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel launches Arc3 laptop graphics chips - ProtocolApr 03 04:45
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▆▅▅▁▁▄▃▅▂▄▅▅▁▅▂▇▅▁▃▂▇▇▇▅▁▂▁▅▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 19.05 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▂▂▁▂▃▁█▄▁▂▁▁▁█▁▁▂▂███▅▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 90.33▕ swarm size (avg): 278.30  ⟲Apr 03 04:59
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mateyi finally tried bibliogramApr 03 05:00
mateyits not often that i need to look at something on zuckstagram but i wanted to todayApr 03 05:01
mateyi tried several instances and they were all blocked by zuck, but one workedApr 03 05:01
mateyso fb is a little more aggressive than twitter i think when dealing with front ends. not too surprisingApr 03 05:02
techrights-newsCan you steal money from a SCAM? Who steals from who? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/axie-infinity-ronin-hackApr 03 05:02
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activelowi see, tinycc is LGPLv2Apr 03 05:05
activelowwhich is slightly confusing, how LGPL2 was different to ordinary GPL2Apr 03 05:05
activelowaware of the argument LGPLv2 was less restrictiveApr 03 05:06
activelowhowever, i think the restriction of ordinary GPL2 may be void anyway, meaning i question linking against a GPL2 lib or similar implies such linking enforced full copyleftApr 03 05:07
activelowi fail to recognize the argument, a proprietary program must remain and expand copyleft onto itself when linking against a GPL2 libraryApr 03 05:08
activelowbecause, this contradicts author's rights fundemenetally, for example, to choose which license applied to the own workApr 03 05:08
activeloweven when linking against GPL2; of cause changes to a GPL piece of software must retain GPL copyleft, yet linking to a lib doesn't necessarily imply copyleft covers the proprietary pieceApr 03 05:10
matey <activelow> which is slightly confusing, how LGPL2 was different to ordinary GPL2 <- lgpl was made for a few special usesApr 03 05:10
mateyits more permissiveApr 03 05:10
mateyuse as neededApr 03 05:10
activelowyes, yet I doubt GPL2 is less permissive/more restrictive in practiceApr 03 05:10
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activelowmaybe, if they argued #include <gpl-header.h> was different to #include <lgpl-header.h>; however this is a very weak technical argument to say a header inclusion enforced copyleft into where the header includedApr 03 05:12
techrights-newsThe stupidest gimmick I've seen in years https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4490739Apr 03 05:12
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techrights-newsDiversity is now "the formerly incarcerated" https://buffalonews.com/news/local/diversity-focused-technology-training-firm-bitwise-coming-to-buffalo/article_18b53c78-aeae-11ec-af1a-3fc233af51b0.htmlApr 03 05:13
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activelowexcept, if GPL2 explicitely stated inclusion of a gpl2-header enforced GPL copyleft into where it is included, which GPL2 doesn'tApr 03 05:13
techrights-newsMaybe next year "diversity" will mean "includes criminals" (like Microsoft)Apr 03 05:13
activelowmeaning the _explicite_ LGPL2 permission to link/include is equivalent to an _implicite_ possibility to do it with GPL2 alike;Apr 03 05:14
activelowof cause, i mostly prefer strong copyleft, however i think GPL2 may not offer it since there isn't any expicite clause to prohibit linking/inclusionApr 03 05:16
activelowwith regards to copyleft GPL2 is dangerous, because it is prone to both unintended/undesireable copyleft expansion, and unintended avoidance of itApr 03 05:17
techrights-newsFake money, bullshit money. More "Smart" buzzwords. https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/29/join-us-tomorrow-for-defi-and-the-future-of-programmable-money/Apr 03 05:18
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techrights-news"Clicking on links in emails from well-known brands can be dangerous because of brand abuse." https://www.wyomingnewsnow.tv/2022/04/01/cyber-wyoming-tracking-local-phishing-attacks/Apr 03 05:20
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activelowfurthermore, GPL(2) doesn't distinguish non-commercial ("public domain", "educational", academic) usage from commercial interestsApr 03 05:21
techrights-newsClownflare has become a LOT more aggressive lately against people who do NOT run proprietary JavaScript. That proprietary JavaScript is ITSELF the risk. Clownflare should be eradicated. Clownflare as a company, still not profitable, should cease to exist.Apr 03 05:22
activelowi don't appreciate this, for example, as an author i would prefer any work of mine may be 100% for schools/universities, however i object to free as in gratis for commercial business with free softwareApr 03 05:22
activelowin german copyright law it is called "Verwertungsrechte" (commercial rights), distinguished from authors rightsApr 03 05:23
activelowauthor's rights cannot be transferred, sold, or terminated in any way, and an author may decide to transfer the commercial rights of his workApr 03 05:24
activelowhowever, GPL doesn't distinguish author's rights and commercial rights (as in Verwertungsrechte)Apr 03 05:25
activelowsame with LGPL2, which i consider redundant, because i question GPL2 copyleft expansion with both technical arguments, and legal argumentsApr 03 05:27
activelowbecause an #include <gpl2-header.h> does not suffice to consider any piece of software a derivative work of what's included/linkedApr 03 05:27
activelowthe #include/linking against gpl2.h is a necessity to define what is a derivative work, yet it is _insufficient_, both legally and technicallyApr 03 05:28
activelowin fact, the _uncertainty_ with GPL2 to define what is a derivative work and what isn't, this uncertainty is worse than an explicite permission with LGPL2Apr 03 05:30
activelowand it's a loophole into unnecessary, useless, harmful lawsuits and legal challengesApr 03 05:30
mateyi don't appreciate this, for example, as an author i would prefer any work of mine may be 100% for schools/universities, however i object to free as in gratis for commercial business with free software <- this would create greater uncertainty than what is/isnt derivativeApr 03 05:33
mateydrawing a distinct and reliable line between commercial / non-commercial just takes free licensing and puts it back into the purview of lawyers againApr 03 05:34
mateyas things are, you can mostly use gpl without ever hiring a lawyerApr 03 05:34
mateylawyers for big companies dispute this to protect income, but the fact is most people can convey gpl software without it being a big dealApr 03 05:34
mateyyou start drawing "distinct" lines between commercial and nc, you basically create a minefield where one did not exist beforeApr 03 05:35
mateyits MUCH less useful thenApr 03 05:35
mateyand as a bonus, it will likely vary from country to country, so thats niceApr 03 05:35
mateycc license with the nc clause have this problem as wellApr 03 05:36
mateycan you use them in x situation? no one fucking knows, good luck!Apr 03 05:36
mateyfree software doesnt need that shitApr 03 05:36
mateyim anti-capitalist, but the license should be neutral on commercial useApr 03 05:37
mateyotherwise it will be nutsApr 03 05:37
activelowi do not want to publish with GPL license and see any corrupt business entity benefitApr 03 05:38
activelowto boil up this argument to maximum heat, when thinking about FSF (Europe mainly) and their associates, it is a party politics outlet of "liberals", who discovered various "freedoms" under the banner of "free software"Apr 03 05:42
activelowhowever, in parallel too i remember, who the exact same type of "liberals" and party politics conducted their business in Telco univeristyApr 03 05:42
activelow*howApr 03 05:42
activelowso, they can use the "free software" label, as a marketing gag, to lure developers and users into their sharholder value meat grinderApr 03 05:43
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activelowfurthermore, GPL doesn't terminate any other legislation, although it seems implied somehow, basic principles such as salary in return for workApr 03 05:49
activelowthen again, "liberals" sneak around the corner, and argue it's "the market" which decided this was in compliance; or GPL simply wasn't suitable when instead proprietary software licenses wereApr 03 05:50
mateyi do not want to publish with GPL license and see any corrupt business entity benefit <- you probably cant have a license take care of that disctinction and still have it be useful to other peopleApr 03 05:50
mateytheres no such thing as a perfect license-- the more you try to make the license accomplish, the harder it is to pull of the stuntApr 03 05:51
mateythere are good licenses, mediocre  licenses and terrible licenses, but no perfect licenseApr 03 05:52
mateymediocre licenses barely accomplish what anyone wantsApr 03 05:52
mateyterrible licenses screw over the intended audience, usually as a deliberate course of actionApr 03 05:53
activelowin compliance with Bern Convention ("author's rights"); this alone already could prevent some mis-understandingsApr 03 05:53
mateygood licenses accomplish good things, and (preferably) dont balkanise things too muchApr 03 05:53
activelowsuch as, any corrupt business entity must not: use any work of an author without consent, and must state who the author isApr 03 05:54
mateyin compliance with Bern Convention ("author's rights"); this alone already could prevent some mis-understandings <- in practice, century-old treaties havent had too much impact on free software licensing and are mostly commented on to troll and spread fud imoApr 03 05:54
activelowGPL2, nor any other license, could terminate those rights - except if there was legal aspects i am not aware ofApr 03 05:54
activelow*could notApr 03 05:55
activelowGPL2, nor any other license, could _not_ terminate those rights - except if there was legal aspects i am not aware ofApr 03 05:55
mateyGPL2, nor any other license, could terminate those rights <- perhaps not, but if not then its not likely a problemApr 03 05:55
mateyfsf(europe) in my opinion is corrupt, by google and whatever elseApr 03 05:57
mateyarguably worse than the other fsfsApr 03 05:57
mateynot originally, but in the past few years at leastApr 03 05:58
activelowparty politics outletApr 03 05:58
activelowthat's why, we see "ethical license" and similar now, because there is various different political parties, each with their own ideasApr 03 05:58
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mateyfrom what i know of these parties, its inaccurate to make it about parties at allApr 03 06:02
matey"ethical license" and similar now <- this isnt about partiesApr 03 06:02
activelowin germany it is party politics, and this is what it is about here, and the interests involved, which is cash grabbingApr 03 06:03
mateyits about political left opportunists (minimal overlap with actual party agendas) who are in it for themselves, and dont give a damn about a a party, or its members, or even the people the license would allegedly serverApr 03 06:03
mateyserveApr 03 06:03
mateyand its crap basicallyApr 03 06:03
mateythey are politically left but they dont care about their own alliesApr 03 06:03
mateyand their potential allies (who get nothing in exchange and gather no benefit from this opportunism) either awkwardly and naively support it, or...Apr 03 06:04
mateyjust as often, the opportunism can find no support from its own "side" and jumps to the other side to further its (selfish, opportunistic) agendaApr 03 06:04
mateyin that sense it couldnt be less about a party than it isApr 03 06:05
mateyits just about promoting nonsense and painting it left or right or centristApr 03 06:05
mateywhen surveillance capitalist megacorporations (superficially) join forces with these peopleApr 03 06:06
mateyyou can tell who theyre doing it for. themselves.Apr 03 06:06
mateythe solution to shit politics is non-shit politicsApr 03 06:06
mateyfree software has done non-shit politics for years, but the opportunists have (mostly) won (for now)Apr 03 06:07
mateyit could change anytime (and often does when not expected)Apr 03 06:07
mateytechnically speaking at leastApr 03 06:07
mateyin germany it is party politics, and this is what it is about here, and the interests involved, which is cash grabbing <- google doesnt care about german party political agendasApr 03 06:08
mateyit simply wants to buy influence at fsfeApr 03 06:08
mateytheres some truth to what youre saying even then, but its part of a larger pictureApr 03 06:08
activelowgerman party politics are awkward, which is, it is a shallow facade, of supposedly multiple parties existing, when instead their prominence is what i consider centrally controlledApr 03 06:09
activelowby the "Atlantik Brücke"/Washington/PentagonApr 03 06:09
mateythe eu certainly complicates all this-- but it too cares less about party politicsApr 03 06:09
activeloweu is riggedApr 03 06:10
mateymostly by germany and francyApr 03 06:10
mateyfranceApr 03 06:10
mateythere are outside influences of courseApr 03 06:10
activelownope, EU apparatus sanctioned those who were compliant with EU contracts, and benefit those who violated themApr 03 06:10
mateymoney is like thatApr 03 06:10
activeloweven worse, although i wouldn't consider EU "democratic", i consider EU not _constitutional_Apr 03 06:11
activelowrule of lawApr 03 06:12
activelowwhich is, compensated instead, with "higher" morality in this apparatus, and higher intellect which escapes mineApr 03 06:13
activelowsince ICE/immigration were mentioned today, it's better i not begin with my argumentApr 03 06:13
activelowwhich is moot, anyway, because it's past, it's historyApr 03 06:13
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techrights-news"When I want to charge my wireless mouse now, I don’t need to plug in a cord or place it on a dock. In fact, I don’t think about charging at all." https://www.theverge.com/23005435/magic-mouse-apple-logitech-powerplayApr 03 06:26
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techrights-news"While certain cryptocurrencies have entered the real world via traditional means of payment like credit cards, the vast majority remain completely intangible" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/21285-5-most-interesting-cryptos-in-the-market.htmlApr 03 06:31
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techrights-newsThe copyright cartel deserves nothing short of boycott https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-targets-popular-youtube-ripper-with-60-million-monthly-visits-220402/Apr 03 06:37
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techrights-newsThis needs to happen in every company https://robertreich.org/post/680432413956030464Apr 03 06:38
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techrights-news"European Union lawmakers on Thursday backed tougher traceability rules for transfers of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, in a move the industry said would erode privacy" https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/31/eu-lawmakers-target-crypto-transfers-in-battle-against-money-launderingApr 03 06:39
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techrights-news"Russia says it will end cooperation with other nations on the International Space Station until the sanctions put on the country are lifted." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/2/23007575/russia-suspend-iss-cooperation-sanctions-lifted-ukraine-space-nasaApr 03 06:39
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techrights-newsMisinformation/Disinformation in "influencing" clothing https://www.economist.com/business/2022/04/02/the-business-of-influencing-is-not-frivolous-its-seriousApr 03 06:40
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techrights-news"I find myself enabling JS in uBlock Origin for page after page after page, even if just temporarily, in order to visit them at all. Are web designers not aware that a big chunk of people hate JS? Do modern frameworks not support JS free designs at all?" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-everything-breaks-experiencing-the-web-without-javascript.gmiApr 03 06:42
techrights-news"(If you have the sources checked out, please note that I just switched the default branch from "master" to "main".)" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-02_Halberds_and_Helmets because racist companies asked...Apr 03 06:44
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techrights-newsWSL is NOT "ubuntu"; it is just Microsoft's ATTACK on GNU/Linux https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-ubuntu-error/Apr 03 08:07
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techrights-newsMicrosoft fires people who do not participate in crimes, protects criminals. This company should be kept around until every last executive is prosecuted and arrested. Then their and the company's accounts should be emptied, paid back in compensation to their victims.Apr 03 08:12
techrights-newsAlso, regarding Linux Foundation, it needs to deal with crime and corruption it has internally before it gathers the aucacity to lecture the community about ethics, mannersApr 03 08:13
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techrights-newsMicrosoft Terminated Us For Not Participating In An Orgy https://web.archive.org/web/20120521162529/http://www.aviransplace.com/2010/01/25/microsoft-banned-us-for-not-participating-in-an-orgy/Apr 03 08:16
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techrights-news"EIM’s personnel refused to participate in the drug and sex party which caused Microsoft to cancel their agreement and terminate their distributor license, which caused EIM a 50% loss in revenue." https://web.archive.org/web/20120521162529/http://www.aviransplace.com/2010/01/25/microsoft-banned-us-for-not-participating-in-an-orgy/Apr 03 08:17
techrights-newsMicrosoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988Apr 03 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux MachinesApr 03 08:17
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techrights-newsLinux Foundation: organisation that puts shackles on the hands of Linux's founder while helping reputation laundering by criminal companies (that also attack Linux) and gagging their critics/exposers. Linux Foundation = crime enabler, corruption supplies. IRS may have already put it under investigation.Apr 03 08:20
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schestowitz-TRhi, foxpupApr 03 08:25
techrights-newsLawyers are the ones CAUSING the pressure. Inverting the narratives much? This spin became typical 2-3 years ago. https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/40-wellness-tips-to-help-lawyers-cope-with-job-pressureApr 03 08:26
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techrights-newsNow even the name 'Yellowstone' is being hijacked by the copyright cartelApr 03 08:27
techrights-newsGulag is being facetious https://emerging-europe.com/business/start-ups-and-tech-will-be-key-to-rebuilding-google-launches-ukraine-support-fund/ Gulag PROFITS from war and also see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/Apr 03 08:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emerging-europe.com | 'Start-ups and tech will be key to rebuilding': Google launches Ukraine Support FundApr 03 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | TechrightsApr 03 08:28
techrights-newsAs the economy rots the local radio is promoting GAMBLING https://wpst.com/50-grand-winning-lottery-ticket-from-grocery-store-in-hamilton-nj/Apr 03 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wpst.com | $50 Grand Winning Lottery Ticket From Food Store in Hamilton, NJApr 03 08:29
techrights-newsPowered by GNU/Linux https://www.eetimes.eu/apex-ai-leverages-ros-for-autonomous-driving/Apr 03 08:30
techrights-newsRotten Apple on the same side of Koch. Think about it when you buy Apple's "i" crap. https://www.pymnts.com/legal/2022/apple-wins-koch-group-support-over-epic-games-lawsuit/Apr 03 08:31
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techrights-newsApple facing new $5.5 billion App Store antitrust lawsuit in the Netherlands https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226850Apr 03 08:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.appleinsider.com | Apple facing new $5.5 billion App Store antitrust lawsuit in the Netherlands - General Discussion Discussions on AppleInsider ForumsApr 03 08:32
techrights-newsApple "crashing" https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/5-1-crash-report-help.2339776/Apr 03 08:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | 5,1 crash report help | MacRumors ForumsApr 03 08:35
techrights-newsRichard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=PJu9UkokzkYApr 03 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube.076.ne.jp | Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - InvidiousApr 03 08:36
techrights-newsRichard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/rms-steve-jobs-2013/Apr 03 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things | TechrightsApr 03 08:36
techrights-newsSteve Jobs offered to pay Linus Torvalds to STOP developing Linux, according to TorvaldsApr 03 08:37
techrights-newsAs if we don't have enough humans already http://www.montana.edu/news/21972/msu-graduate-student-on-frontier-of-adapting-robots-to-work-better-with-humansApr 03 08:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montana.edu | MSU News | Montana State UniversityApr 03 08:38
techrights-newsBrave 1.37: new sidebar, custom new tab backgrounds and privacy improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163298Apr 03 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave 1.37: new sidebar, custom new tab backgrounds and privacy improvements | Tux MachinesApr 03 08:38
techrights-newsBailouts at taxpayers' expense, without actually helping the taxpayers in dire need of assistance https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/competes_act_senate/Apr 03 08:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Senate passes America COMPETES Act and its chip subsidies • The RegisterApr 03 08:40
techrights-newsSay oligarchs. I dare you. But uou know who owns and controls media... https://khmoradio.com/see-missouris-list-of-the-top-6-billionaires-in-the-state/Apr 03 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-khmoradio.com | See Missouri's List of The Top 6 Billionaires in The StateApr 03 08:41
techrights-newsApex.AI Leverages ROS for Autonomous Driving • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163299Apr 03 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apex.AI Leverages ROS for Autonomous Driving | Tux MachinesApr 03 08:41
techrights-newsThe open source way with artist Jasmine Becket-Griffith of Strangeling.com • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163300Apr 03 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The open source way with artist Jasmine Becket-Griffith of Strangeling.com | Tux MachinesApr 03 08:41
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techrights-news"Network equipment maker Ubiquiti on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against infosec journalist Brian Krebs, alleging he defamed the company by falsely accusing the firm of covering up a cyber-attack." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/ubiquiti_brian_krebs/Apr 03 08:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ubiquiti sues infosec journo for defamation over hack report • The RegisterApr 03 08:44
techrights-newsWhen are the criminals from Microsoft going to be charged and arrested too? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/twilio-employees-sec-insider-tradingApr 03 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SEC Charges Twilio Employees in $1 Million Insider Trading case - ProtocolApr 03 08:45
techrights-newsProprietary software is always deceptive https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/ftc-intuit-turbotaxApr 03 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FTC says Intuit’s TurboTax free tax filing claim is deceptive - ProtocolApr 03 08:46
techrights-news"SSL and its descendent, TLS, are protocols that encrypt internet traffic, making secure internet communication and ecommerce possible." They do, in turn, create other problems https://www.csoonline.com/article/3246212/what-is-ssl-how-ssl-certificates-enable-encrypted-communication.htmlApr 03 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | What is SSL? How SSL certificates enable encrypted communication | CSO OnlineApr 03 08:48
techrights-newsIs this the End of the road for elementary OS? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163301Apr 03 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is this the End of the road for elementary OS? | Tux MachinesApr 03 08:48
techrights-newsNot everyone carries these spying devices. Moreover, IMO, nobody at all should carry them. https://securitytoday.com/articles/2022/04/01/mobile-ticketing-to-the-rescue.aspxApr 03 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securitytoday.com | Mobile Ticketing to the Rescue -- Security TodayApr 03 08:51
techrights-newsDestroying the minds of many young people https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/reels-tiktok-instagram-spamApr 03 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta's most popular Reels are coming from anonymous accounts - ProtocolApr 03 08:52
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techrights-news"SteamOS 3.0 is a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux, mostly designed to play your Steam games on non PC machines. It is mostly open source with some proprietary components, meaning a port for exploited devices such as a Jailbroken PS4 is a possibility." https://wololo.net/2022/03/28/release-steamos-3-0-for-ps4-unofficial/Apr 03 08:55
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techrights-newssteam deck clown gaming - Reviewed ⚓ https://www.reviewed.com/laptops/features/steam-deck-cloud-gaming ䷉ Source: reviewedApr 03 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-steam deck cloud gaming - ReviewedApr 03 08:55
techrights-newsApple 'quality': "I upgraded the processor and SSD in my late 2012 iMac. About once a day it crashes and gives me error reports like the one pasted below." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/late-2012-imac-kernel-panic-after-processor-and-ssd-upgrade.2340189/Apr 03 08:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | Late 2012 iMac Kernel Panic after Processor and SSD Upgrade | MacRumors ForumsApr 03 08:57
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techrights-news"Dr Lynn Woods, Professor in the Department of Doctoral Programs, School of Nursing, Azusa Pacific University, provides further analysis of Latinx & dementia, including systems of healing & the challenge of behavioural symptoms" https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/latinx-dementia-symptoms-challenges/132831/Apr 03 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openaccessgovernment.org | Latinx & dementia: The challenge of behavioural symptomsApr 03 08:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▃▆▇█▁▆▆▆▄▃▂▃▃▅▅▃▁▂▂▅▁▂▃▆▄▂▅▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 41.35 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂█▁▁█▁▂▃█▁█▃▁▂▁▂▁▂████▁▃▁▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 106.15▕ swarm size (avg): 289.68  ⟲Apr 03 08:59
techrights-newsThis data should not be routed through USA, either https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/yandex-russia-ios-android-dataApr 03 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Yandex routing iOS, Android user data to Russia - ProtocolApr 03 09:00
techrights-newsThis would only increase the level of surveillance https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/dma-messaging-appsApr 03 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iMessage, WhatsApp could be forced to work together - ProtocolApr 03 09:01
techrights-news"Zulip today announced the release of Zulip Server 5.0, a major update that marks a release of the Zulip server and web applications." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/566879815/zulip-leading-open-source-team-collaboration-tool-releases-server-5-0Apr 03 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | Zulip, Leading Open-Source Team Collaboration Tool Releases Server 5.0 - EIN PresswireApr 03 09:01
techrights-news"The U.S. Supreme Court will review a ruling that an Andy Warhol print infringed a photo of Prince as it weighs non-software fair use for the first time in decades." https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/warhol-prince-photo-case-brings-fair-use-debate-to-high-courtApr 03 09:02
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techrights-news"Apps" became synonymous with surveillance https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2022/04/03/with-mysejahtera-in-the-spotlight-experts-say-scrutiny-definitely-needed-to/2051225Apr 03 09:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malaymail.com | With MySejahtera in the spotlight, experts say scrutiny definitely needed to ensure data properly utilised | Malaysia | Malay MailApr 03 09:03
techrights-newsEnergy wasting. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/meet-btrusts-abubakar-nur-khalil-africas-bitcoin-innovation-saviorApr 03 09:04
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techrights-newsPeak Employment???? The US economy collapsed, but Wall Street Times wants the population to be in denial about it. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/business/dealbook/jobs-numbers-employment.htmlApr 03 09:04
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techrights-newsWill Facial Recognition Technologies hasten our descent to a mass surveillance State? - TheLeaflet ⚓ https://theleaflet.in/will-facial-recognition-technologies-hasten-our-descent-to-a-mass-surveillance-state/ ䷉ Source: theleafletApr 03 09:05
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techrights-newsThey are not "crypto"; this has nothing to do with crypto https://www.businessinsider.com/check-out-the-28-crypto-startups-y-combinator-latest-batch-2022-3?r=US&IR=TApr 03 09:06
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techrights-newsUS colleges controlled by the Pentagon by financial means https://www2.lehigh.edu/news/lehigh-and-the-us-army-research-lab-announce-25-million-cooperative-agreement-to-develop-nextApr 03 09:07
techrights-newsMcKinsey has its own big share of scandals. Nobody should take McKinsey’s advice. https://fortune.com/2022/04/01/mckinsey-rules-building-effective-team-support-cfo/Apr 03 09:08
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Apr 03 09:08
techrights-newsIt's not free. They spy on you and more. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/charter-joins-verizon-comcast-offering-free-internet-acp-participantsApr 03 09:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercetelecom.com | Charter joins Verizon, Comcast in offering free internet for ACP participants | Fierce TelecomApr 03 09:09
techrights-news"Sage Invest in Progress" = patronising race card to make PR stunts https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/31/2413945/0/en/Sage-and-The-BOSS-Network-announce-35-awardees-of-the-2022-Sage-Invest-in-Progress-grants.htmlApr 03 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Sage and The BOSS Network announce 35 awardees of the 2022Apr 03 09:10
techrights-newsWorld Wide Web: Definition, history and facts | Live Science ⚓ https://www.livescience.com/world-wide-web ䷉ Source: livescienceApr 03 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livescience.com | World Wide Web: Definition, history and facts | Live ScienceApr 03 09:10
techrights-newsZlib crash-an-app bug finally squashed, 17 years later https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/zlib_data_bug/Apr 03 09:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Zlib crash-an-app bug finally squashed, 17 years later • The RegisterApr 03 09:23
techrights-newsFacebook has no reasons to even exist https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-tiktok-targeted-victoryApr 03 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta paid for a smear campaign against TikTok - ProtocolApr 03 09:24
techrights-newsLinkedIn is dying. Microsoft too. There are layoffs in both. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/linkedin-instagram-creator-tools also Epstein links: http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/Apr 03 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinkedIn adds new tools for creators - ProtocolApr 03 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linked In to Pedophilia | TechrightsApr 03 09:25
techrights-newsSmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart https://skarredghost.com/2022/03/30/mojo-vision-smart-contact-lenses-feature-complete/ nonssense and gimmicksApr 03 09:26
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techrights-newsFIDO Alliance = FIDO/FIDO2 cargo cult https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/3/prweb18584578.htm see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/Apr 03 09:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | Vault Vision announces expanded security capabilities with OpenID Foundation and FIDO Alliance partnershipsApr 03 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | TechrightsApr 03 09:28
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bnchsthis is to all the brave users out thereApr 03 10:11
bnchshttps://files.catbox.moe/ypge4d.pngApr 03 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/ypge4d.png )Apr 03 10:11
bnchsbrave has a fingerprinting issueApr 03 10:12
bnchsand because of thisApr 03 10:12
bnchsyou can fingerprint users even on "tor mode"Apr 03 10:13
bnchsso the anonymity of tor is ruinedApr 03 10:13
bnchsof course, whats retarded is brave's mitigration of this fingerprint vulnerabilityApr 03 10:14
bnchsthey inserted a fake voice that was an alias to the first voice into the listApr 03 10:15
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▂▁▃▅▅▃▂▅▃▄▃▄█▁▅▆▇▆▆▃█▄█▁█▄▅▅▃▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 70.35 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂██▁▁▁▁█▃▃▁███▂▂▂▂█▃▁▄▇▁▁▁▃▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 120.28▕ swarm size (avg): 242.20  ⟲Apr 03 10:59
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DaemonFC<bnchs> you can fingerprint users even on "tor mode"Apr 03 11:16
DaemonFCBecause the underlying browser is Chromium, it's going to be basically impossible to try to defeat tracking. Tor Mode is bullshit.Apr 03 11:17
DaemonFCThe Lake County Health Department would now rank #1 most hated government agency in the county, I'm certain, if anyone conducted a poll. And the Illinois State Department of Health would beat out IDOR.Apr 03 11:18
DaemonFCFor years, at the federal level, the most despised government agency was the IRS. Now I'm sure it would be the CDC.Apr 03 11:19
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DaemonFCIt's funny how when people lose everything like this, that those people stop caring what the taxes would be like if they were to still have a job.Apr 03 11:19
DaemonFCThe whole COVID pandemic was a smokescreen to implement Agenda 21.Apr 03 11:20
DaemonFCEven as people come out of the stupor of the last two years, they find that they still can't afford to leave the house or do much due to hyperinflation that's especially hitting food, and gas prices.Apr 03 11:20
DaemonFCI have no doubt the virus was real. "Sustainable development" includes population control.Apr 03 11:21
DaemonFCA small fraction of that is deliberately murdering the elderly and the infirm with the virus, and then most of the rest is making people unable to afford children, or sterile due to the side effects of the vaccines.Apr 03 11:21
DaemonFCThe government controls the fertility statistics.Apr 03 11:22
DaemonFCThey can just keep saying people don't have many children and nobody really knows why. "Maybe it's the economy." while they fry their reproductive system over and over again with "boosters".Apr 03 11:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, Bill Gates was giving a speech the other day. He said Omicron was unfortunate due to the fact that it appears to give much better immunity than the vaccines and was so mild that it blew through in a month and then has mostly gone away.Apr 03 11:24
DaemonFCAll that lost revenue....Apr 03 11:24
DaemonFCIt's not just the COVID shots that do reproductive harm.Apr 03 11:25
DaemonFCThere's obviously been agents in the food and drinking water for some time that do that too.Apr 03 11:25
DaemonFCThe count and quality of male semen has been in severe decline over the past 40 years or so in the United States. I'm pretty sure other developed countries. They're doing something to us.Apr 03 11:26
DaemonFCIt's "managing the herd".Apr 03 11:26
DaemonFCMaybe they don't even have to add agents to do that. Maybe they just cause poor people to subsist on ramen noodles instead of fresh vegetables and high quality protein sources because they can't afford a proper diet anymore.Apr 03 11:27
DaemonFCI don't know who would buy this meat substitute crap Bill Gates is invested in. It's always going to have an off putting taste about it.Apr 03 11:28
DaemonFCThey can't seem to mask it no matter what they do, and the stuff is much much worse than ground beef. They toss in loads of salt. It's anything but natural.Apr 03 11:29
DaemonFC"Europe turned out to be the continent where LA21 was best accepted and most implemented.[9]" (Local Agenda 21)Apr 03 11:30
DaemonFCYeah, and activelow is broke.Apr 03 11:30
DaemonFCAgenda 21. $10 a gallon gas and food bills 2.5 times as high as the US.Apr 03 11:30
DaemonFCBiden's sure trying to make up for lost time though.Apr 03 11:31
DaemonFC"A June 2012 poll of 1,300 United States voters by the American Planning Association found that 9% supported Agenda 21, 6% opposed it, and 85% thought they didn't have enough information to form an opinion.[16]"Apr 03 11:32
DaemonFCThe poll probably did not mention the United Nations or anything about Agenda 21's goal of reducing living standards.Apr 03 11:32
DaemonFCAnd the UN doesn't go out of their way to make it clear what Agenda 21 really is.Apr 03 11:32
DaemonFCJust mentioning the United Nations in the poll would be enough to throw most of the undecideds against it. It's like Microsoft and Coca Cola. They keep their branding off GitHub and orange juice, because they don't want people to know.Apr 03 11:33
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bnchs__<DaemonFC> Because the underlying browser is Chromium, it's going to be basically impossible to try to defeat tracking. Tor Mode is bullshit.Apr 03 11:35
bnchs__yesApr 03 11:35
bnchs__the browser stands out like a sore thumb among other tor usersApr 03 11:35
bnchs__i don't know how brave thought of implementing tor in their browserApr 03 11:35
DaemonFC"There's a country where 12% of the population has to hide from right-wing fascists in the government. They come wearing costumes and flashing badges. It's all very official. When they find the people they are looking to arrest, they put them on trucks and take them to internment camps where they're given a bar code. Once there, they have no idea what will happen to them next. Many die in the camps, and some are raped by guards, including the Apr 03 11:36
DaemonFCchildren. The majority of the population of this country doesn't want to know what happens in the camps and tells you to think happy happy thoughts instead."Apr 03 11:36
DaemonFCIt's not Nazi Germany in the 1930s. It's America now. And the people who don't want to feel guilty are not German, they're my parents.Apr 03 11:37
bnchs__there's a websiteApr 03 11:37
DaemonFCmjg59_, What's your opinion on GitHub (Microsoft) collaborating with these folks? (I.C.E.)Apr 03 11:38
bnchs__browserleaks.neocities.orgApr 03 11:38
bnchs__it performs fingerprint tests in brave browserApr 03 11:38
DaemonFCmjg59_, Do you still use it?Apr 03 11:38
bnchs__using a fingerprint vulnerability found in SpeechSynthesisApr 03 11:38
bnchs__to this day, brave hasn't fixed itApr 03 11:38
bnchs__to this day, you can still fingerprint across tor mode and regular modeApr 03 11:38
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bnchs__https://browserleaks.neocities.org/brave/SpeechSynthesis.htmlApr 03 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browserleaks.neocities.org | SpeechSynthesis - BraveApr 03 11:40
bnchs__i'm pretty sure tor browser's solution to this problem would be....Apr 03 11:44
bnchs__disabling speechsynthesis entirelyApr 03 11:44
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bnchs__"if you've seen this tiktok"Apr 03 11:55
bnchs__who calls videos "tiktok"Apr 03 11:55
bnchs__thats like calling videos hosted on youtube "youtube"Apr 03 11:55
bnchs__"if you've seen this youtube"Apr 03 11:55
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bnchs__https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013225752/http://www.microsoft.com:80/corpinfo/bill-g/column/1996essay/censorship.htmApr 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Searching for middle ground in online censorshipApr 03 12:03
bnchs__bill gates essay about internet censorshipApr 03 12:03
bnchs__schestowitz: whats the code to your anti-cloudflare IRC botApr 03 12:12
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4TPzosgrQAApr 03 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H4TPzosgrQAApr 03 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | 10 Used-Cars to AVOID for BAD Engine - as per Consumer Reports - InvidiousApr 03 12:15
DaemonFCMany are KIA or Hyundai.Apr 03 12:15
DaemonFCBig pieces of shit.Apr 03 12:15
DaemonFCEngine fires nd cheap engine bearings just causing the thing to fail with a grinding noise at some point.Apr 03 12:15
DaemonFCThere's a BMW on there. He says the engine usually fails before it reaches 100,000 miles.Apr 03 12:16
bnchs__should you replace web.archive.orgApr 03 12:16
bnchs__with https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/?Apr 03 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Time TravelApr 03 12:16
bnchs__this website searches hundreds of archivesApr 03 12:17
bnchs__for a Memento (basically a web archive moment)Apr 03 12:18
bnchs__of that siteApr 03 12:18
bnchs__like searxApr 03 12:18
bnchs__ok here's an exampleApr 03 12:20
bnchs__http://timetravel.mementoweb.org/list/20190224060626/http://google.comApr 03 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Mementos for http://google.com around 2019-02-24: http://mementoweb.org/list/20190224120609/http://google.com #memento -Apr 03 12:20
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DaemonFChttps://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-halts-gas-shipments-europe-critical-pipelineApr 03 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gazprom Halts Gas Shipments To Europe Via Critical Pipeline | ZeroHedgeApr 03 12:34
DaemonFCArticle says Gazprom cut off supplies to the UK, but I've seen figures that say that the UK doesn't import any Russian gas.Apr 03 12:34
bnchs__https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/2022/http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-halts-gas-shipments-europe-critical-pipelineApr 03 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Gazprom Halts Gas Shipments To Europe Via Critical Pipeline | ZeroHedgeApr 03 12:38
bnchs__test APIApr 03 12:38
bnchs__it redirects to web.archive.org (because it's the only archive that has archived this URL)Apr 03 12:38
DaemonFChttps://www.wsj.com/articles/positive-drug-tests-among-u-s-workers-hit-two-decade-high-11648603800Apr 03 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Positive Drug Tests Among U.S. Workers Hit Two-Decade High - WSJApr 03 12:42
DaemonFCEmployers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it.Apr 03 12:43
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bnchs__" The Coalition to Stop Net Censorship asked everyone, everywhere, to turn their World Wide Web pages black for 48 hours after Clinton signed the bill to show just how many people would be affected by the bill. It was a tremendous show of support. We thank everyone who helped out. "Apr 03 12:44
bnchs__back when the Communications Decency Act was signedApr 03 12:44
bnchs__pages turned blackApr 03 12:44
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▃▂▂▅▆▁▁▇▅▂▄▇▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▆▂▃▂▁█▅▃▃▃▄▂▇▁ avg(k/sec) 50.66 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▃▄▇▁▇█▂▂▁▁▂▃██▁▁▁▁▃▄█▆█▁▁▁▂▅▆▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 84.20▕ swarm size (avg): 257.31  ⟲Apr 03 12:59
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techrights-newsGreen Party Renews Calls for Green New Deal in State Budget https://howiehawkins.us/green-party-renews-calls-for-green-new-deal-in-state-budget/Apr 03 13:20
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: howiehawkins.us | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://howiehawkins.us/green-party-renews-calls-for-green-new-deal-in-state-budget/Apr 03 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Green Party Renews Calls for Green New Deal in State Budget | Howie Hawkins for our FutureApr 03 13:20
techrights-newsXfce’s Apps Update for March 2022: New Releases of Orange, Xfdashboard, Xfce Terminal • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163302Apr 03 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce’s Apps Update for March 2022: New Releases of Orange, Xfdashboard, Xfce Terminal | Tux MachinesApr 03 13:20
techrights-newsToday I got so tired doing the 3-hour video that I had to stop halfway, go take a nap, then resume with a part 2 over an hour later. First time this happens.Apr 03 13:29
bnchs__should you really record for 3 hours?Apr 03 13:39
schestowitz-TRit's more time-efficient if done in one goApr 03 13:40
bnchs__well okApr 03 13:41
bnchs__i wanted to ask you wheres the code for the altlink botApr 03 13:41
schestowitz-TRif I have two files, I need to encode twiceApr 03 13:41
immibisDaemonFC: do you or do you not believe in liberty?Apr 03 13:41
schestowitz-TRthe process is mostly automated though, it's just that it needs to be invoked twiceApr 03 13:41
bnchs__schestowitz-TR: do you ever encode multi-threaded?Apr 03 13:41
bnchs__and/or use hardware encoding?Apr 03 13:41
schestowitz-TRbnchs__: it's with ffmpegApr 03 13:42
schestowitz-TRit uses up all the cpu coresApr 03 13:42
bnchs__really?Apr 03 13:42
bnchs__oh ffmpeg uses multi-threading by defaultApr 03 13:43
schestowitz-TRI wanted to distribute the load across multiple machines, but found no tools to do this with ffmpegApr 03 13:43
schestowitz-TRunless you split the file and reassemble from different nodes/machines at the endApr 03 13:43
schestowitz-TRone minute of video can be 24x60 framesApr 03 13:44
immibisyou don't want to split by frames because you'll get non-optimal keyframesApr 03 13:44
immibismaybe it's possible to run one pass to decide on keyframes and then encode each sectionApr 03 13:44
schestowitz-TRthat's 86.4k frames an hourApr 03 13:45
schestowitz-TRimmibis: or buy a monster machine for like 20,000 $ lolApr 03 13:45
bnchs__llApr 03 13:45
schestowitz-TRwhich would be idle like 99% of the timeApr 03 13:45
immibisthis is actually an ideal use case for clownApr 03 13:45
bnchs__how do you plan to split load across machinesApr 03 13:45
immibisif you want a monster machine for like 5 minutesApr 03 13:46
bnchs__you might aswell just buy like 16 CPUsApr 03 13:46
bnchs__and insert them all in one motherboardApr 03 13:46
bnchs__maybe 32Apr 03 13:46
schestowitz-TRI have here 4,4,2,2,2,2 CPU coresApr 03 13:46
immibis32-socket motherboards do not existApr 03 13:46
schestowitz-TRtotal 16Apr 03 13:46
immibisIf you want cores have a look on ebay or ewaste recyclers for servers. I was seeing ~$500 for iirc 16-core dual socket machines.Apr 03 13:47
immibis(16 cores in total)Apr 03 13:48
immibisolder generation onesApr 03 13:48
bnchs__well i guessApr 03 13:48
schestowitz-TRthese longer videos are now urgentApr 03 13:48
schestowitz-TRI don't mind the laptop going for 10 hoursApr 03 13:48
immibisalso i'm serious when I say that renting a monster machine for 5 minutes is an ideal use case for clownApr 03 13:49
schestowitz-TRi just distribute the tasks across to other machineApr 03 13:49
schestowitz-TRbut anyway, next time I won't start doing a long video after just 4 hours of sleepApr 03 13:49
*XRevan86 spent way too much time debunking Russian propaganda regarding the Bucha massacre.Apr 03 13:49
bnchs__immibis, should you really use it?Apr 03 13:49
XRevan86Their attempts at murking the truth are pathetic.Apr 03 13:50
immibisbnchs__: does it do what you want for a reasonable price?Apr 03 13:51
bnchs__and?Apr 03 13:51
bnchs__how do you get the data backApr 03 13:51
bnchs__and what if the conversion takes more than 5 minutesApr 03 13:52
immibisbnchs__: you download it?Apr 03 13:53
immibisand if it takes longer than 5 minutes you rent it for more than 5 minutes?Apr 03 13:53
immibishave you ever used clown computing?Apr 03 13:53
bnchs__no i actually buy computersApr 03 13:54
bnchs__immibis, ok what if you wanna install a different OS in the cloznApr 03 13:55
immibisbnchs__: throw it away and get a new oneApr 03 13:57
immibisbnchs__: the saying "cattle, not pets" appliesApr 03 13:57
*psydroid2 would build a private clownApr 03 13:58
bnchs__well i don't wanna use the clownApr 03 13:58
psydroid2*createApr 03 13:58
immibisbnchs__: even if you don't like clown it seems a bit shortsighted to artificially restrict your horizons. All major clowns give you free trials of one sort or anotherApr 03 13:58
immibisyou may as well know how it worksApr 03 13:58
immibispsydroid2: people do that, although if you only have a couple of servers, it seems silly. Sometimes it leads to people using stupid numbers of VMs/containers just to justify their private clownApr 03 13:58
bnchs__what if i wanna do processing offlineApr 03 13:59
immibislike turning their website into microservicesApr 03 13:59
immibisbnchs__: then you can't use clown, because by definition it is someone else's server that you access through the internetApr 03 13:59
bnchs__so basicallyApr 03 13:59
bnchs__internet outage (which is everytime here)Apr 03 13:59
immibiscan you upload videos during an internet outage?Apr 03 13:59
bnchs__means no access to the clown?Apr 03 13:59
psydroid2immibis, I wouldn't do that, I would just share my private clown with my friendsApr 03 14:00
bnchs__lol upload speed 0.5KB/sApr 03 14:00
bnchs__clown would be retarded with that kind of speedApr 03 14:00
bnchs__might aswell just buy a serverApr 03 14:00
immibisbnchs__: do you even know what the context for this conversation is?Apr 03 14:00
bnchs__yeahApr 03 14:00
bnchs__processing videosApr 03 14:00
immibisit wasn't bitcoin mining. it was processing videos to uploadApr 03 14:00
bnchs__yeahApr 03 14:00
bnchs__but first you have to upload the videoApr 03 14:00
bnchs__with shit speed and constant outageApr 03 14:00
immibisin fact, if your upload speed is that terrible, it will probably be FASTER uploading one copy and then processing it on someone else's serverApr 03 14:00
immibis(assuming the goal is to generate multiple copies in different formats, and not to compress the first copy)Apr 03 14:01
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bnchs__and i wasn't talking about bitcoin miningApr 03 14:02
MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13423ymAjFgApr 03 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=13423ymAjFgApr 03 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Pink nosed cat with a weird meow and her friends are so cute - InvidiousApr 03 14:02
techrights-newskernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree - kbuild: Make $(LLVM) more flexible ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e9c281928c24dfeb86b11c31b53757b6a127f8aa ䷉ Source: gitApr 03 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source treeApr 03 14:20
techrights-newsGNU Coreutils under attack from Microsoft (criminals) GitHub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-uutils-0.0.13Apr 03 14:20
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-uutils-0.0.13Apr 03 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uutils 0.0.13 Released For GNU Coreutils Replacement In Rust - PhoronixApr 03 14:20
techrights-newsClaws Mail 3.19.0 and 4.1.0 unleashed • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163303Apr 03 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Claws Mail 3.19.0 and 4.1.0 unleashed | Tux MachinesApr 03 14:21
techrights-news[GIT pull] x86/urgent for v5.18-rc1 - Thomas Gleixner ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/164897467026.360450.9213450977031549110.tglx@xen13/ ䷉ Source: xen13Apr 03 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT pull] x86/urgent for v5.18-rc1 - Thomas GleixnerApr 03 14:22
techrights-newsSlackware-current: "My repository now contains a new set of libreoffice-7.3.2 packages for Slackware 15.0 and -current." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/libreoffice-7-3-2-ungoogled-chromium-100/Apr 03 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Libreoffice 7.3.2, Ungoogled-Chromium 100 | Alien PasturesApr 03 14:23
techrights-newsWorried That Your Phone Is Spying On You? Try A Different OS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163304Apr 03 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Worried That Your Phone Is Spying On You? Try A Different OS | Tux MachinesApr 03 14:28
bnchs__schestowitz: i know i asked this alot, but wheres the source code for altlink_63e Apr 03 14:29
-altlink_63e/#techrights-👍 https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/214Apr 03 14:29
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2203301Apr 03 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ZAve2X9.jpg created on 2022-03-30 00:20:57.325961Apr 03 14:29
bnchs__wtf it made an issue?Apr 03 14:29
bnchs__god damn itApr 03 14:30
techrights-newsLightning talk: Volunteering at the FSF https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talk-volunteering-at-the-fsf/Apr 03 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | Lightning talk: Volunteering at the FSF — GNU MediaGoblinApr 03 14:31
techrights-news"A lightning talk is a five-minute presentation on any topic that you think would be interesting to a group of free software users, hackers, and activists. Anyone can give a lightning talk at LibrePlanet." https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talk-real-world-gnu-linux-story-from-istanbul/Apr 03 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | Lightning talk: Real world GNU/Linux story from Istanbul — GNU MediaGoblinApr 03 14:33
mateybnchs__ whats this about?Apr 03 14:42
matey/me is curiousApr 03 14:42
MinceRbnchs__: i think the people in #deCloudflare knowApr 03 14:45
mateymincer: ?Apr 03 14:47
MinceRmatey: the bot that warns about crimeflareApr 03 14:48
mateywhat happened to itApr 03 14:48
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Apr 03 14:48
mateyit isnt here anymore?Apr 03 14:48
MinceRapparently bnchs__ wants the source codeApr 03 14:48
MinceRit's hereApr 03 14:49
mateyi usually ignore it, but im not against itApr 03 14:49
MinceRand if its nick is mentioned, it makes an issue :>Apr 03 14:49
mateylolApr 03 14:49
mateythats a very low-entry route to bug reportsApr 03 14:49
MinceRindeedApr 03 14:49
MinceRmust be annoying for the developersApr 03 14:49
mateyi mean they made it that wayApr 03 14:50
mateypresumably its what they wantedApr 03 14:50
MinceR:>Apr 03 14:50
matey"and i can BREAK you too!" dr frankenfurterApr 03 14:50
techrights-newsMatthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/Apr 03 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Matthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | TechrightsApr 03 14:50
bnchs__matey: uhhhApr 03 14:51
bnchs__i wanted the source code to altlink_***Apr 03 14:51
bnchs__and apparentlyApr 03 14:51
bnchs__made an issue because i mentioned itApr 03 14:51
bnchs__on the repo's issuesApr 03 14:51
mateyseems like a non problem reallyApr 03 14:51
mateyyou found the repoApr 03 14:52
bnchs__nah it didn't have itApr 03 14:52
mateywhat?Apr 03 14:52
mateythe issues are there but the source is not?Apr 03 14:52
bnchs__lemme check with a quick searchApr 03 14:52
mateyits a proprietary clown bot!Apr 03 14:53
matey/me ops himself and charges laserApr 03 14:53
mateythat is funny though, sort ofApr 03 14:53
MinceRimma chargin mah laserApr 03 14:53
bnchs__i don't know why would the dev make it so that it makes an issue automaitcally when you ping itApr 03 14:54
bnchs__that's just dumbApr 03 14:54
mateyits a very low entry route to bug reportsApr 03 14:54
bnchs__yeah but just make it a PMApr 03 14:54
bnchs__or somethingApr 03 14:55
bnchs__not publiclyApr 03 14:55
mateyif it were my botApr 03 14:55
mateyi would have it tell the user:Apr 03 14:55
bnchs__https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/blob/master/subfiles/service.altlink_irc.mdApr 03 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mypdns.org | subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md · master · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabApr 03 14:55
bnchs__"You can find altlink_xxx only on: #techrights"Apr 03 14:55
matey"type 'confirm report' in the next 5 minutes to send previous mention of my irc handle to repo issues"Apr 03 14:55
techrights-newsAdd WiFi HaLow to Raspberry Pi with ALFA Network AHPI7292S HAT - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/03/add-wifi-halow-to-raspberry-pi-with-alfa-network-ahpi7292s-hat/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftwareApr 03 14:56
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/03/add-wifi-halow-to-raspberry-pi-with-alfa-network-ahpi7292s-hat/Apr 03 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Add WiFi HaLow to Raspberry Pi with ALFA Network AHPI7292S HAT - CNX SoftwareApr 03 14:56
MinceRgot lions and tigers only in kenyaApr 03 14:56
mateyoh myApr 03 14:56
bnchs__there's no source codeApr 03 14:56
bnchs__even on https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/blob/master/subfiles/service.altlink.mdApr 03 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mypdns.org | subfiles/service.altlink.md · master · Crimeflare / deCloudflare · GitLabApr 03 14:56
bnchs__no source codeApr 03 14:56
MinceRagain, they have a channel on this networkApr 03 14:56
mateyand the channel logs every post to it in issues :)Apr 03 14:56
bnchs__niceApr 03 14:57
mateyim joking-- probablyApr 03 14:57
mateyi mean it COULDApr 03 14:57
techrights-news5 Best Puzzle Games for Linux To Sharpen Your Intelligence ⚓ https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-puzzle-games-for-linux/ ䷉ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | LinuxApr 03 14:57
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mateynot sure why it wouldnt, really :) except they probably log it separately Apr 03 14:57
bnchs__MinceR: which is empty?Apr 03 14:57
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mateydoes it have the bot at least?Apr 03 14:58
mateythe bot probably logsApr 03 14:58
mateyif its the only thing thereApr 03 14:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▂▂▇▁▂▅▁▄▄▅▃▆▁▃▂▃▄▃▃▁▅▂▁█▃▅▅▂▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 16.30 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁██▂▁█▁▂▃▂▁▁▁▁█▂▃▁██▁▁▄▂▂▂▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 98.00▕ swarm size (avg): 244.68  ⟲Apr 03 14:59
bnchs__roy uhhhh can you explain?Apr 03 14:59
bnchs__why is this one bot that has no source code?Apr 03 14:59
matey/me is curious why roy would knowApr 03 15:00
bnchs__i mean i wanted to modify it a bitApr 03 15:01
mateyas far as i know the bot is about as understood to us as the monolith in 2001 / 2010Apr 03 15:01
matey<bnchs__> i mean i wanted to modify it a bit <- thats entirely reasonableApr 03 15:01
bnchs__and see how it detected cloudflareApr 03 15:01
mateyhmmApr 03 15:02
mateyif i was trying to detect cloudflare, i would use two approachesApr 03 15:02
mateythe bot may have a better methodApr 03 15:02
bnchs__yeah thats why i'm interested in itApr 03 15:03
mateyi would use the following two approaches and either one of course would trip the detection flag (OR logic)Apr 03 15:03
mateythe first pass would try to grab the page with torsocks. if it got the captcha, cloudflare confirmedApr 03 15:03
schestowitzaltlink is nor our botApr 03 15:03
schestowitzit's free sofrwareApr 03 15:03
schestowitzI cannot recall the URLApr 03 15:03
schestowitzit's run by ciphrCatApr 03 15:03
mateyfree software without source codeApr 03 15:03
bnchs__oh i get itApr 03 15:04
schestowitzI did not checkApr 03 15:04
schestowitzscrolling up, I see you've pulled the URL alreadyApr 03 15:05
schestowitzI remember seeing config files or codeApr 03 15:05
mateyciphrcat is logged in, but has been idle for 202765 seconds? (does the math to see if thats plausible)Apr 03 15:05
mateyor codeApr 03 15:05
mateyo rnotApr 03 15:05
schestowitzmaybe there are multiple repos/sitesApr 03 15:05
bnchs__the URL (decloudflare) doesn't really have the source code i thinkApr 03 15:06
matey202765 seconds is 140 dysApr 03 15:06
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mateythats a lot of idleApr 03 15:06
schestowitzseems wrongApr 03 15:06
mateyalso a really solid connectionApr 03 15:06
schestowitzI recall him saying something weeks agoApr 03 15:06
matey/me shrugsApr 03 15:06
bnchs__hmm lemme check againApr 03 15:07
schestowitzbest to ask ciphrCatApr 03 15:07
schestowitzi used to think he was french, seems belgian (close enough)Apr 03 15:07
schestowitzusually lurkingApr 03 15:07
mateymaybe hes a chefApr 03 15:07
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mateycould be canadianApr 03 15:08
mateythey have chefs in canada i thinkApr 03 15:08
bnchs__the repo doesn't have any source code related to altlinkApr 03 15:09
bnchs__only documents and examples of itApr 03 15:09
mateyjust an old copy of nethackApr 03 15:10
bnchs__and judging from this bot being hosted by another userApr 03 15:10
bnchs__are you sure it's free software?Apr 03 15:10
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mateyand something by a guy named "flynn"Apr 03 15:10
mateyspace paranoids Apr 03 15:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 03 15:12
techrights-newsGames: SteamOS 3.0, Steam Deck, and 5 Best Puzzle Games • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163307Apr 03 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamOS 3.0, Steam Deck, and 5 Best Puzzle Games | Tux MachinesApr 03 15:12
mateyit was modified to create the early versions of systemdApr 03 15:12
mateyoriginally called "mcp" but it doesnt say what it stands forApr 03 15:13
bnchs__i could reverse engineer the botApr 03 15:13
mateyhow? is there a binary?Apr 03 15:13
bnchs__because the documentations don't say anything about how it worksApr 03 15:13
bnchs__matey: test it with a few Apr 03 15:13
bnchs__URLs*Apr 03 15:13
mateywowApr 03 15:14
mateyyoud still be closed off to the bulk of useful outputApr 03 15:14
mateylike what it tries to connect toApr 03 15:14
bnchs__yeah thats the problemApr 03 15:14
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bnchs__lemme guessApr 03 15:15
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mateyif you had a binary you could try decompiling or runnign straceApr 03 15:15
bnchs__gitlab.comApr 03 15:15
bnchs__https://gitlab.com/Apr 03 15:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-about.gitlab.com | NO TITLEApr 03 15:15
mateywhich is technically illegal i guess if you write code based on itApr 03 15:15
bnchs__matey: obviously what i'm doing is guessing how it worksApr 03 15:15
bnchs__clean room reverse engineeringApr 03 15:16
mateymmhmmApr 03 15:16
mateyim not casting any aspersions on your methods, only on my own "suggestions"Apr 03 15:16
bnchs__yesApr 03 15:16
mateyif it were under an mit license at leastApr 03 15:17
mateymaybe you could "dirty room" rev engineer it without any worriesApr 03 15:17
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mateyive never heard of such a thing, and im not a lawyer, so this is speculationApr 03 15:17
bnchs__i'm guessing that it's looking up the DNS domain and see if it routes to cloudflare serversApr 03 15:18
mateywell that was the other method i was going to suggestApr 03 15:18
mateyget the ipApr 03 15:18
mateythen try to access it directlyApr 03 15:19
mateyand if its clownflare the computer will say noApr 03 15:19
mateyjust a guessApr 03 15:19
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mateythis way you dont need a hardcoded list of clownflare addressesApr 03 15:20
mateyyou go based on the responseApr 03 15:20
mateybut if its trivial to get a full list of their addresses, theres no problem with thatApr 03 15:21
mateyyoud just have to update it from time to timeApr 03 15:21
bnchs__matey: useful resource: https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/Apr 03 15:24
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: selesti.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/Apr 03 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/ )Apr 03 15:24
bnchs__it seems like this site checks more than just DNS and SSLApr 03 15:24
bnchs__it checks the HTTP headers for cloudflare-related shitApr 03 15:24
mateyhmmApr 03 15:25
mateyi wouldnt have thought of thatApr 03 15:25
bnchs__the DNS lookup also relies on checking the nameserversApr 03 15:25
bnchs__if it detects cloudflare nameservers like becky.ns.cloudflare.comApr 03 15:26
bnchs__so there's a few thingsApr 03 15:27
mateywhat are you going to do with itApr 03 15:27
bnchs__1. do a NS lookup on the domain, check for cloudflare-related nameservers 2. access the site 3. check the HTTP headers and SSL certificateApr 03 15:28
mateyid make a list of websites that dont use cfApr 03 15:28
bnchs__taking notesApr 03 15:28
bnchs__maybe i would cache the listApr 03 15:28
bnchs__for a week or somethingApr 03 15:28
mateywhy a week?Apr 03 15:28
mateyit would be cool to have a list of websites that dont use cf or some other crap like bitchninja or suckuri firewallApr 03 15:29
mateythe ncurses guy uses suckuri, its annoyingApr 03 15:29
bnchs__heres the thingApr 03 15:30
bnchs__what if the site stops using cloudflareApr 03 15:30
mateysourcefudge is getting increasingly aggressive against anonymised visitors, but its still trivial to get aroundApr 03 15:30
bnchs__you would indefinitely cache the listApr 03 15:30
bnchs__you would just check the domain after a weekApr 03 15:31
bnchs__just in caseApr 03 15:31
bnchs__wouldn't indefinitely*Apr 03 15:31
matey you would indefinitely cache the list <- i wouldnt check it every weekApr 03 15:31
mateymaybe every couple months or a few times a yearApr 03 15:31
mateyi dont think admins have a change of heart that oftenApr 03 15:31
bnchs__ok what if they doApr 03 15:31
mateyi think youre wasting a lot of processing power but its yours to do what you want with soApr 03 15:32
bnchs__well okApr 03 15:32
mateyim talking about efficiency, youre talking about accuracy. either approach has meritsApr 03 15:32
bnchs__lets raise it upApr 03 15:32
mateyi wouldnt try to tell you to do it my wayApr 03 15:32
bnchs__maybe every couple of months right?Apr 03 15:32
mateysure, thats a good number i guessApr 03 15:32
bnchs__i wanna replace the hardcoded web.archive.org link to somethingApr 03 15:34
bnchs__something like https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/Apr 03 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Time TravelApr 03 15:34
mateyis that a thing?Apr 03 15:34
bnchs__yeah it's like searx but for archivesApr 03 15:34
mateyooohhhApr 03 15:34
bnchs__it would be betterApr 03 15:35
mateyim getting pretty tired of ias shit reallyApr 03 15:35
mateytheyre fsf-ing themselvesApr 03 15:35
bnchs__here's an exampleApr 03 15:36
bnchs__http://timetravel.mementoweb.org/list/20141202233330/http://google.comApr 03 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timetravel.mementoweb.org | Mementos for http://google.com around 2014-12-02: http://mementoweb.org/list/20141202220550/http://google.com #memento -Apr 03 15:36
schestowitz-TRias?Apr 03 15:36
mateybut given the size of their collection of course i hope for betterApr 03 15:36
schestowitz-TRia?Apr 03 15:36
mateyinternet archive, possessive, minus apostrophesApr 03 15:36
bnchs__archives closest to december 2nd 2014Apr 03 15:36
schestowitz-TRia is still greatApr 03 15:36
schestowitz-TRbut could always improveApr 03 15:36
mateyits a wonderful collectionApr 03 15:36
bnchs__it's sorted from the earilest to the oldestApr 03 15:36
schestowitz-TRit was mentioned in libreplanetApr 03 15:36
mateywell imo theyve been a bit full of shit for a couple yearsApr 03 15:37
mateyit was mentioned in libreplanet <- that doesnt helpApr 03 15:37
schestowitzin this talk http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/Apr 03 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | TechrightsApr 03 15:37
mateythe founder was a keynote speakerApr 03 15:37
mateya year or two agoApr 03 15:37
bnchs__IA has been a little slow lateyApr 03 15:37
bnchs__lately*Apr 03 15:37
mateykahleApr 03 15:37
mateybrewsterApr 03 15:37
schestowitz-TRyes, they hasd technical difficultiesApr 03 15:37
mateya few years ago, the archive stopped being as nice to useApr 03 15:38
mateythey changed somethingApr 03 15:38
bnchs__i also hate their ebook DRMApr 03 15:38
psydroid2altlink_63e is really full of shit too, isn't it?Apr 03 15:38
-altlink_63e/#techrights-👍 https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/215Apr 03 15:38
matey<bnchs__> i also hate their ebook DRM <- i hate the entire organisation for their ebook drmApr 03 15:38
bnchs__also their iframe version doesn't work wellApr 03 15:38
mateyi understand why they did it, i forgive it partly, but refuse to excuse it fullyApr 03 15:38
mateyiframes are from the devilApr 03 15:38
bnchs__all of the (internet archive links) point to the regular versinApr 03 15:38
MinceRbnchs__: dunno, /list told me it had 7 usersApr 03 15:39
schestowitz-TRi herad about their book drm, did not look into it to understand or verify, it does raise concerns about their directionApr 03 15:39
bnchs__matey: iframe version is because i hate the IA javascript and shitApr 03 15:39
*psydroid2 wonders how much of the web is actually worth savingApr 03 15:39
mateydid not look into it to understand or verify <- libraries + drm = !librariesApr 03 15:39
schestowitz-TRand makes you wonder if there are forces/pressures in play outside plain sightApr 03 15:39
bnchs__using the iframe version meant that the IA-replaced links point to the regular version anywayApr 03 15:39
bnchs__unlike other archivesApr 03 15:39
mateylibraries since the dawn of commercial publishers and copyright, have existed at odds with publishersApr 03 15:39
mateythis isnt the libraries fault, as lending books actually INCREASES salesApr 03 15:40
mateybut publishers are dicksApr 03 15:40
mateyrepeat: publishers are dicksApr 03 15:40
schestowitz-TR[15:38] <matey> iframes are from the devilApr 03 15:40
schestowitz-TRthey are, BUT...Apr 03 15:40
mateythe only thing that allows libraries to exist (because publishers have long sought to destroy them) is first sale doctrineApr 03 15:40
schestowitz-TRsometimes they're one way to dodge JS and spurious CSSApr 03 15:40
schestowitz-TRI can give examplesApr 03 15:40
mateydmca for example, negates first sale for anything with drmApr 03 15:41
bnchs__yesApr 03 15:41
matey <schestowitz-TR> I can give examples <- i doubt i would careApr 03 15:41
schestowitz-TRokApr 03 15:41
mateydrm poses an existential threat to libraries.Apr 03 15:41
bnchs__like check out memento's APIApr 03 15:41
mateyfor ia to embrace drm is treachery at bestApr 03 15:41
mateythey call themselves a libraryApr 03 15:41
bnchs__https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/20220304153500/http://techrights.orgApr 03 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Welcome to TechrightsApr 03 15:41
mateyit used to be true. its sort of de facto true nowApr 03 15:41
mateytheyre a library holding a gun to their own headApr 03 15:42
mateyi still use the archive of courseApr 03 15:42
mateybut im NOT HAPPY about the direction theyre going inApr 03 15:42
mateyit looks like sabotage from a few angles.Apr 03 15:42
mateyits a very important resource.Apr 03 15:42
mateyunderstatementApr 03 15:42
techrights-newsWhere does wiki spam come from? gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-03_Where_does_wiki_spam_come_from%3FApr 03 15:42
mateyalternatives are not a threat, but a boonApr 03 15:42
mateyof course it depends, like all thingsApr 03 15:43
mateyi know kahle believes hes doing the right thingApr 03 15:43
mateybut its a bit too close to what mozilla did with emeApr 03 15:44
mateymozilla stood by while the internet got stabbed in the backApr 03 15:44
bnchs__still i wouldn't like the links to depend on IA onlyApr 03 15:44
mateykahle stood by while the same things happened to the largest library online (afaik)Apr 03 15:44
mateyits not good!Apr 03 15:44
mateyhe made the same blunder as mozilla imo-- maybe without any corruptionApr 03 15:45
mateybut ia has other major issues, sort of complicated to explainApr 03 15:45
mateygo back in time and use ia then, youd see what i meanApr 03 15:45
matey"omg this is so much better"Apr 03 15:45
mateytheyre kneecapping it, whether because theyre hitting capacity (doubtful) or because of corruption (i wouldnt rule it out) or some other dumbfuck reasonApr 03 15:46
techrights-news"Interested in what people do instead of using Usenet, I looked at Internet Archive Schoolar. I haven't found nothing more relevant than paper from 2013." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmiApr 03 15:46
mateyand anyone who thinks theyre going to "unkneecap it" later is ignoring historyApr 03 15:46
techrights-news"I sent first posts to Usenet from almost 30 years. While looking for available nntp (text only) servers I found out something new" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmiApr 03 15:46
mateythis is a slope greased with graphene nanotube superlubricantApr 03 15:47
techrights-newsIs There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor Is There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor gemini://marginalia.nu/log/53-better-hard-drive-metaphor.gmiApr 03 15:47
mateybecause its so bloody important i still hope for better, against the oddsApr 03 15:47
mateyyou can rebuild gnu, but if the ia is gone its fucking gone Apr 03 15:48
mateyi suppose you could (very theoretically) mirror itApr 03 15:48
mateythat would be one fucking hell of a mirrorApr 03 15:48
bnchs__yeahApr 03 15:48
bnchs__you gonna need thousands of hard drivesApr 03 15:48
bnchs__and maybe ZFSApr 03 15:48
mateybezos could do it, too bad hes evil and insaneApr 03 15:49
techrights-news"During that time of *integrity*, it was still the ones that came from families with money who were regarded as la creme de la creme." gemini://thurk.org/blog/552.gmiApr 03 15:49
bnchs__also memento is good for IA blacklisted websitesApr 03 15:49
bnchs__like 4chanApr 03 15:49
mateymusk would fuck it upApr 03 15:49
mateyhe would do everything right then change his mind before the launchApr 03 15:49
mateymusk was going to put photos of space in the public domain like nasa doesApr 03 15:49
mateythen he was like na, fuck it-- pay meApr 03 15:50
bnchs__"This service is provided by the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Unfortunately, the URL you were searching for is blocked by our service, which means that no Mementos are returned in the result list. Please note, however, that it is entirely possible that Mementos exist in one or more publicly available web archives."Apr 03 15:50
mateymotherfucker like you dont already get grants up the arseApr 03 15:50
bnchs__nevermind nevermindApr 03 15:50
mateypiece of subway-inventing skynet car building bullshitApr 03 15:50
techrights-news"Last year for computers has died on me. Or rather, the USB-C card has died, which for a computer that charges with usb-c is the same as being dead." gemini://iveqy.com/gemlog/2022-04-03_evil_usb.gmiApr 03 15:50
mateybnchs__ <- are you saying lanl runs the entire memento thing, just an instance, or just the website archived by it?Apr 03 15:51
bnchs__noApr 03 15:51
bnchs__it's simply a search archiveApr 03 15:51
mateyokApr 03 15:52
bnchs__you can search for mementos without itApr 03 15:52
mateyalrightApr 03 15:52
techrights-newsClaws Mail 4.1 Adds Text Zooming in the Message View, Many Other New Features • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163308Apr 03 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Claws Mail 4.1 Adds Text Zooming in the Message View, Many Other New Features | Tux MachinesApr 03 15:53
bnchs__like a search engineApr 03 15:53
mateyi got that but not the detailsApr 03 15:53
mateyi suppose i should look at it at some point :)Apr 03 15:53
bnchs__mementos is a IETF specification i thinkApr 03 15:53
mateyreallyApr 03 15:53
mateyfor archiving?Apr 03 15:53
bnchs__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7089Apr 03 15:54
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ietf.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7089Apr 03 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | RFC 7089 - HTTP Framework for Time-Based Access to Resource States -- MementoApr 03 15:54
matey/me is easy to impress with knowledge of rfcsApr 03 15:54
bnchs__timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/19950101153500/http://microsoft.comApr 03 15:54
matey"youre internet people"Apr 03 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft – Cloud, Computers, Apps & GamingApr 03 15:54
bnchs__forgotApr 03 15:55
bnchs__https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/19950101153500/http://microsoft.comApr 03 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Microsoft CorporationApr 03 15:55
bnchs__redirects to a portugese web archiveApr 03 15:55
mateyreally?Apr 03 15:55
mateythis is as weird as the dark web (slightly tongue in cheek, but its always interesting to find parts of the net you didnt know existed)Apr 03 15:56
mateyid love to know what makes kahle tickApr 03 15:56
mateymost of the time ive known hes existed hes been a bit of a heroApr 03 15:57
bnchs__well it's the earlist archive of microsoft.com (beats IA by 6 days)Apr 03 15:57
mateybut like rms hes the sort that isnt too forward-thinking about successorsApr 03 15:57
mateywell it's the earlist archive of microsoft.com (beats IA by 6 days) <- impressiveApr 03 15:57
matey1995 is when they lifted the restrictions on commercial use i thinkApr 03 15:58
bnchs__it's 13 October 1996Apr 03 15:58
mateyin 1994 you could get a book full of "urls" but most were to gopher, the web was still wet behind the earsApr 03 15:58
bnchs__but i picked 1995 just in caseApr 03 15:58
mateyi first got on the web in 95 or 96Apr 03 15:59
bnchs__https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013190236/http://www.microsoft.com:80/corpinfo/bill-g/column/1996essay/censorship.htmApr 03 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | Searching for middle ground in online censorshipApr 03 16:00
mateyin 92 or 93 someone told me to get a telnet to some university blah blah "internet" and i thought they were nutsApr 03 16:00
bnchs__oh wait this is the month where communications deceney acts was signedApr 03 16:00
mateyits not like you could just look this up on wikipedia you knowApr 03 16:00
bnchs__decency*Apr 03 16:00
mateyand i wasnt in the habit of using my access to bbss as a search engineApr 03 16:00
mateyi mostly just looked for freeware with itApr 03 16:01
mateybut someone did tell me about the internet in the early 90sApr 03 16:02
mateyand funnier than that, it was a mac personApr 03 16:02
mateygo figureApr 03 16:02
bnchs__ok in CDA daysApr 03 16:02
bnchs__they turned their websites black?Apr 03 16:02
bnchs__why the fuckApr 03 16:02
mateyjust like sopa-pipaApr 03 16:02
mateyreddit and wikipedia did that tooApr 03 16:03
mateyi didnt know there was a historical precidentApr 03 16:03
bnchs__they turned their pages black 2 days after clinton signed the communications decency actsApr 03 16:03
bnchs__https://arquivo.pt/noFrame/replay/19961013163030/http://www.vtw.org:80/speech/Apr 03 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arquivo.pt | VTW Focus on Internet Censorship legislationApr 03 16:03
mateyclinton was also the dmca (thanks, dick)Apr 03 16:03
mateyclinton was also the copyright term extension act that kept mickey mouse from going into the public domainApr 03 16:04
bnchs__yes disney bribed congressApr 03 16:04
mateyat the expense of public access to decades of other words (fucking dick)Apr 03 16:04
mateyand congress took it in the arseApr 03 16:05
bnchs__to sign the copyright extension billApr 03 16:05
mateytraitors every single oneApr 03 16:05
mateyexcept the couple who probably didnt sign (theres always one)Apr 03 16:05
mateythere will never be a free society under capitalismApr 03 16:05
mateyit will always be run by the corporationsApr 03 16:05
bnchs__there will be a secret money reward if you signApr 03 16:06
bnchs__so sign like a good boyApr 03 16:06
mateyoh lessig did a great job explaining how legalised bribery worksApr 03 16:06
matey"rebooting democracy"Apr 03 16:06
mateygreat talk (dartmouth)Apr 03 16:06
mateyon youtubeApr 03 16:06
mateyhighly recommendedApr 03 16:06
mateyshows why usian politics are a complete farceApr 03 16:06
mateydollarocracyApr 03 16:06
mateyi actually sent lessig an article i wrote for royApr 03 16:07
mateyi think rms is more important than lessig (lessig probably thinks so too) but lessig is just all kinds of badassApr 03 16:08
mateyfucking shame what happened to ccApr 03 16:08
mateyagain, the path to the future for cc was to do what linksvayer suggestedApr 03 16:08
mateycomplete mystery how he ended up at githubApr 03 16:09
mateybrett gaylor did a pretty amazing docu with lessig and girltalk as centrepieces, but then he went to work for mozilla and the planned sequel was never madeApr 03 16:09
mateyalso on youtube. and ia.Apr 03 16:09
techrights-newsTechrights now has about 100GB of videos. They do cover a lot of corruption in national patent offices. Total time of videos probably around 200-300 hours.Apr 03 16:09
mateybut in technical terms its a bit sloppy and plays fast and loose with definitionsApr 03 16:10
mateyother than that its goodApr 03 16:10
techrights-newsThis talk is about Haven. For more information see Haven’s site at havenweb.org. http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-on-haven/Apr 03 16:10
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mateylessig said he thinks with video-- ALL VIDEOApr 03 16:11
mateyyou should just be able to quote anything, like you can with writingApr 03 16:11
mateyclip, snippet, copy, pasteApr 03 16:11
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mateyand people do, but its complicatedApr 03 16:12
bnchs__i like how the websites turned black for 2 days (even yahoo) after clinton signed the billApr 03 16:12
mateyand if you do it with music youre fuckedApr 03 16:12
bnchs__usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022Apr 03 16:12
bnchs__everyone would suck it like a good boyApr 03 16:12
matey usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022 <- again, reddit and wikipedia did the same thing in response to sopa/pipaApr 03 16:12
mateybut that was before reddit fucked itself Apr 03 16:13
matey usually if a bill like this gets signed in 2022 <- yes thats trueApr 03 16:13
mateyeverything is a dick sucking contest nowApr 03 16:13
bnchs__they use covers like anti-pedoApr 03 16:13
mateythats not new eitherApr 03 16:13
bnchs__and anti-terrorismApr 03 16:14
mateyadolf hitler: "thinks of the children!" *then gasses countless numbers of children*Apr 03 16:14
bnchs__people had their own websitesApr 03 16:14
mateyanti-terrorism: n. "we can do terrorism but YOU CANT" (also you cant do things we dont like or we will conflate it with terrorism)Apr 03 16:14
bnchs__and there wasn't upboats or downboats in mailing listsApr 03 16:15
matey/me still doesnt understand how it would be POSSIBLE for gerwitz to stop emails from pocock, even though theres little doubt the latter was censoredApr 03 16:16
mateybut by gerwitz? how?Apr 03 16:16
mateywhen was he in charge of such thingsApr 03 16:16
bnchs__who's gerwitz and who's pocockApr 03 16:17
mateypocock is a sometimes "contributor" to techrightsApr 03 16:17
bnchs__ohApr 03 16:17
mateymeaning he sometimes emails roy and roy sometimes mirrors articles hes writtenApr 03 16:17
bnchs__stop emails as in gerwitz blocked him?Apr 03 16:17
mateyhes the one who exposed corruption at fsfe and censorship at fsfApr 03 16:17
mateywell heres the thingApr 03 16:17
mateypocock probably had some emails to rms blocked-- this i do not doubt Apr 03 16:18
mateyallegedly gerwitz may have been involved somehow-- this i dont understand how its possible (gerwitz being involved)Apr 03 16:18
mateynow for your other questionApr 03 16:18
bnchs__blocked the emails for gerwitz alone?Apr 03 16:18
bnchs__or the entire mail server?Apr 03 16:18
matey(mike) gerwitz gave a surprisingly good talk at libreplanet 2022Apr 03 16:18
mateyok so heres how it allegedly goes:Apr 03 16:19
mateypocock email -> | gerwitz | rms Apr 03 16:19
mateygerwitz prevents rms from getting itApr 03 16:19
bnchs__oh so you're sayingApr 03 16:19
mateyan i dont doubt that happened-- im only scpetical that gerwitz was the person responsibleApr 03 16:19
bnchs__that gerwitz was in control of rms' incoming mail serverApr 03 16:19
bnchs__and managed to block pocock's email address?Apr 03 16:20
mateyim saying i dont know how he would be... but we are talking about fsf staff no mattre whatApr 03 16:20
mateythis is rms@fsf or rms@gnuApr 03 16:20
mateyeither way, fsf infrastructureApr 03 16:20
mateysomeone was in charge of it when the email didnt go throughApr 03 16:20
bnchs__well are you sure that it's just a technical issueApr 03 16:20
mateyim not aware that gerwitz ever had that positionApr 03 16:20
bnchs__not a blacklisting thing?Apr 03 16:21
mateywe can always blame a technical issueApr 03 16:21
mateyblacklisting is likely in this instanceApr 03 16:21
mateytheres never censorship that cant be brushed away as a technical problemApr 03 16:21
bnchs__did the problem get fixed?Apr 03 16:21
mateyi dont know, ive also had problems emailing himApr 03 16:21
bnchs__or did he not report the problem at allApr 03 16:21
mateywhere even his autoresponder didnt respondApr 03 16:22
bnchs__matey: maybe it's a technical problemApr 03 16:22
mateywhich i found suspiciousApr 03 16:22
bnchs__i mean even i emailed himApr 03 16:22
mateyive been emailing him for many years, i have some idea what a normal response isApr 03 16:22
bnchs__and it didn't go throughApr 03 16:22
bnchs__so it might beApr 03 16:22
mateyyeah it could be a technical issue. always a possibilityApr 03 16:22
bnchs__there's no way i could get blockedApr 03 16:22
mateyi mean its not even impossible for a cosmic particle to strike the server and cause an email to get lostApr 03 16:23
mateythough the magnetic field around the earth blocks most of themApr 03 16:23
bnchs__this is more than just one emailApr 03 16:23
mateyat any rate, i dont doubt censorshipApr 03 16:24
bnchs__i had problems emailing himApr 03 16:24
mateyim mostly intrigued that gerwitz could be implicated in thisApr 03 16:24
mateyas im very sceptical of thatApr 03 16:24
mateyand you know i dont have a high opinion of most fsf people, but the gerwitz/censorship connection doesnt ring true for me at allApr 03 16:25
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mateyim not inclined to leave it alone until i learn more Apr 03 16:25
mateythough i will give up on it eventually if theres nothing forthcomingApr 03 16:25
mateyi mean, this isnt a white whale for meApr 03 16:25
bnchs__i meanApr 03 16:25
bnchs__you do youApr 03 16:25
bnchs__investigate as much as you likeApr 03 16:25
mateymostly im just curiousApr 03 16:25
bnchs__but i doubt it's censorshipApr 03 16:25
bnchs__and more of a technical issue on rms' endApr 03 16:26
mateyactually, what id like to if theres a way gerwitz even COULD be at faultApr 03 16:26
mateyi didnt think he was in charge of this even.Apr 03 16:26
mateywhen was he a moderator, for exampleApr 03 16:26
mateyi think the gerwitz part is bunk. what id like to know is WHY it is. id rather have more of a response to it than "i think its probably bunk"Apr 03 16:27
mateyproving it wasnt censorship would also clear him but i figure thats a lot more difficult to proveApr 03 16:28
mateyalternatively if it really was his fault id be just as interested in that truthApr 03 16:28
mateyas sceptical as i amApr 03 16:28
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mateypocock isnt very easily cornered on anythingApr 03 16:29
mateyyou cant get much out of him on this, which doesnt help Apr 03 16:29
bnchs__maybe investigate without holding bias against the staffApr 03 16:29
matey <bnchs__> maybe investigate without holding bias against the staff <- funnily enough thats what im doingApr 03 16:29
mateybut the fsf is not known for transparency and wont be useful in thisApr 03 16:30
mateytheyre ridiculously opaque, roy has even critiqued them for it Apr 03 16:30
mateysomething he and i agree onApr 03 16:30
mateyor at least did agree on (i still do, who knows what his position is now)Apr 03 16:30
bnchs__how do you give your project to the GNUApr 03 16:31
mateyyou registerApr 03 16:32
mateyi presume it generally involves sending an emailApr 03 16:32
bnchs__to whom?Apr 03 16:32
mateywhich may get a responseApr 03 16:32
mateyone of the biggest complaints is that responses are ridiculously far from timelyApr 03 16:32
mateyand the process may take agesApr 03 16:32
mateyyou know im happy to look this up for you actuallyApr 03 16:32
bnchs__because i heard of somethingApr 03 16:33
mateyhttps://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2018/spring/gnu-needs-you-how-to-contribute-to-a-gnu-projectApr 03 16:33
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bnchs__it involves giving up the copyright to FSF right?Apr 03 16:33
mateyIf you already have written useful software that you would like to submit as a GNU package, there's a submission process in place at gnu.org/help/evaluation.html. If you're willing to adhere to the GNU Project's mission for software freedom, you can join 404 other GNU supporters as a GNU maintainer.Apr 03 16:34
mateyolves giving up the copyright to FSF right? <- i think so, so they can defend the license legally.Apr 03 16:34
mateyim not sure its mandatory, but i think its probably required. maybe if you make a compelling argument they grant an exception, i dont knowApr 03 16:34
mateyat the very least its recommendedApr 03 16:35
bnchs__yeahApr 03 16:35
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matey"Again, please email the questionnaire to <gnueval@gnu.org> when it is done."Apr 03 16:36
mateyhttps://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.htmlApr 03 16:36
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mateythis would stop me from joining:Apr 03 16:37
mateyif its actually requiredApr 03 16:37
matey"and GNU documentation shouldApr 03 16:37
matey   be released under the GNU FDL version 1.3 or any later version.Apr 03 16:37
mateymy position on the fdl is the same as debiansApr 03 16:37
mateyits not a free licenseApr 03 16:37
mateythe wikipedia article on the fdl goes into details about the criticism of itApr 03 16:38
mateyid rather use by-sa over fdlApr 03 16:38
mateyi wouldnt release documentation under fdl if its a requirementApr 03 16:38
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mateymaybe if its dual licensed cc0 and fdlApr 03 16:38
mateyi would be willing to do that.Apr 03 16:39
mateyi bet they would still grant approval. but they would be annoying about it.Apr 03 16:39
mateytry to discourage the dual licenseApr 03 16:39
mateyby comparison, the gpl3 thing isnt a dealbreaker at allApr 03 16:40
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mateythough the only thing ive ever made that i would consider having as a gnu project is already in the public domainApr 03 16:40
mateyso it would be a question of releasing the newest version under gpl3, since you cant undo the previous licenseApr 03 16:41
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mateyopenbsd has included leafpad in repos for longer than debian hasApr 03 17:00
mateyi was kind of pissed when debian got rid of itApr 03 17:00
mateyof course there is an argument to be made for doing so-- and it hasnt swayed openbsdApr 03 17:01
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techrights-newsmd-toc version 8.1.2 (beta) released on 3 April 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-tocApr 03 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Md-toc - Free Software DirectoryApr 03 17:30
techrights-newsYou should not even trust ANYTHING from Apple. What have they done to deserve trust? Sold out everyone to NSA? https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/macos-opencore-trust.htmlApr 03 17:33
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techrights-newsCRAZY!!! See how many COVID-19 we have here! "The face-to-face event of the year, Postgres London 2022 gives community members the opportunity to get together in-person in Central London" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgres-london-2022-2428/Apr 03 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Postgres London 2022Apr 03 17:34
techrights-newsRuby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163309Apr 03 17:34
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techrights-newsAfter weeks if not months of struggles with a deteriorating drive (degraded mode of operation) we’re finally making baby steps and moving the video setup to another machine; the picture quality will improve somewhat and sound quality is still work in progress http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/moving-the-video-setup/Apr 03 17:35
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techrights-newsHow is this "open source"? See the bottom part. Also Windows only and Microsoft Github (proprietary). Microsoft wants people not to understand Software Freedom, let alone explore it. https://medevel.com/photodemon/Apr 03 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | PhotoDemon is a lightweight open-source photo editor for WindowsApr 03 17:44
techrights-newsLife only gets HARDER when you use Windows. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770527/bios-and-pre-os-screen-does-not-display-on-monitor/Apr 03 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | BIOS and pre-OS screen does not display on monitor. - Internal HardwareApr 03 17:46
techrights-newsNibble Stew: Looking at building some parts of the Unreal engine with Meson • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163310Apr 03 17:51
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bnchs__ "BIOS and pre-OS screen does not display on monitor"Apr 03 17:53
bnchs__the future of computing everyoneApr 03 17:53
bnchs__"whaddya need the BIOS screen for"Apr 03 17:53
bnchs__"you don't need to boot from another source"Apr 03 17:53
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163311Apr 03 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 03 17:58
schestowitz-TRSTOP SIDELOADING AN OS  !!!Apr 03 17:59
schestowitz-TRStop exercising control over a PC you bought, you FREAK !!Apr 03 17:59
*schestowitz-TR changes OSApr 03 18:01
schestowitz-TRclippy: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD A BOMB.Apr 03 18:01
*schestowitz-TR changes wallpaperApr 03 18:02
schestowitz-TRclippy: THIS INCIDENT WILL BE REPORTED.Apr 03 18:02
*schestowitz-TR copies files to USB driver instead of clown computingApr 03 18:02
schestowitz-TRclippy: WHAT ARE YOU, A PEDO????Apr 03 18:02
bnchs__WHADDYA NEED THE BIOS SETUPApr 03 18:03
bnchs__ARE YOU A TERRORIST???Apr 03 18:03
schestowitz-TRTECHRORISTApr 03 18:03
bnchs__You don't NEED the BIOS setupApr 03 18:04
schestowitz-TRWHAT NEXT?Apr 03 18:04
schestowitz-TRWhat will you ask for next?Apr 03 18:04
bnchs__You don't NEED to boot from a different source than a hard driveApr 03 18:04
bnchs__Just use what your computer came withApr 03 18:04
schestowitz-TRaccess to an external disk???Apr 03 18:04
bnchs__and shut upApr 03 18:04
schestowitz-TRare you a pirate???Apr 03 18:04
schestowitz-TRno, hard drive is for pedosApr 03 18:05
schestowitz-TRuse the clownApr 03 18:05
schestowitz-TRapple will scan everythingApr 03 18:05
schestowitz-TRand score you for the banksApr 03 18:05
bnchs__I've seen modern laptops that don't even show the BIOS screenApr 03 18:05
bnchs__or the pre-OS screen at allApr 03 18:05
bnchs__they boot directly to windowsApr 03 18:05
bnchs__so you basically have 2 seconds to mash all the function keysApr 03 18:05
MinceRusually you can press a button to get into uefi setup and tell them to use a "slow" and more informative boot processApr 03 18:06
bnchs__before it boots to windowsApr 03 18:06
bnchs__MinceR: They don't have thatApr 03 18:06
bnchs__Dell removed itApr 03 18:06
bnchs__now it's just slient bootApr 03 18:06
MinceRi don't know why anyone would buy a dHell product anywayApr 03 18:06
MinceRthey can't even design a hinge that doesn't pry itself apart in 2 yearsApr 03 18:06
MinceRor a keyboard that doesn't fall apart in 2 yearsApr 03 18:07
bnchs__in the future, you won't even have a BIOS setup anymoreApr 03 18:07
bnchs__nor the option to boot to another driveApr 03 18:07
MinceRand they can't source a GPU that doesn't fry itselfApr 03 18:07
bnchs__because that's illegalApr 03 18:07
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MinceRor a TrackPoint imitation in which the buttons don't crap themselves in a few months of useApr 03 18:07
bnchs__i have a old dell latitudeApr 03 18:08
bnchs__that has a bios screenApr 03 18:08
bnchs__and still worksApr 03 18:08
MinceRi have an old dHell inspiron, in which i had to have the GPU replaced twice, have the hinge fixed once, and they refused to fix the keyboard under warrantyApr 03 18:09
MinceRfuck them, dHell is a scamApr 03 18:09
bnchs__lol i'll admit thisApr 03 18:10
bnchs__this dell latitude wasn't so uhhhhh good coniditionApr 03 18:10
bnchs__the CMOS battery was deadApr 03 18:10
bnchs__some of the keys were deadApr 03 18:10
MinceRi used a dHell latitude, that had the TrackPoint buttons that broke quicklyApr 03 18:10
bnchs__had to replace the keyboard, and the CMOS batteryApr 03 18:10
MinceRat least that wasn't mineApr 03 18:10
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bnchs__https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-now-lets-you-enable-the-windows-app-installer-again-heres-how/?traffic_source=ConnatixApr 03 18:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft now lets you enable the Windows App Installer again, here's howApr 03 18:12
techrights-newsLinks 03/04/2022: Cassidy James Leaves elementary OS, Ruby 3.2.0 Preview 1 Released, and Claws Mail 3.19.0/4.1.0 Now Out | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/claws-mail-4-1-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/claws-mail-4-1-0/Apr 03 18:12
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bnchs__"App Installer (also known as AppX Installer) allows users to install Windows applications directly from a web server using an MSIX package or App Installer file without first downloading the installers to their computer."Apr 03 18:12
bnchs__yes of courseApr 03 18:13
bnchs__now the question is did it get abused?Apr 03 18:13
bnchs__yes it didApr 03 18:13
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163312Apr 03 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 03 18:13
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163313Apr 03 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 03 18:13
MinceRhttps://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicyoloswagnew.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-comicyoloswagnew#comic )Apr 03 18:14
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bnchs__indubitably, i'm little ronnie's sonApr 03 18:16
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/dbcinchina/status/1510390016597446658#mApr 03 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Uncertain Doubter (@dbcinchina): "We can read more about Ursula VDL's (or “Rose Ladson”) story here: http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/" | nitterApr 03 18:34
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bnchs__schestowitz-TR: they shared techrights?Apr 03 18:40
schestowitz-TRseems soApr 03 18:41
schestowitz-TRit's an old articleApr 03 18:41
bnchs__what is it about?Apr 03 18:41
schestowitz-TREU and EPOApr 03 18:42
schestowitz-TRand historyApr 03 18:42
techrights-newsGNU/Linux port. https://adventuregamers.com/news/view/dreams-in-the-witch-house-to-become-reality-on-windows-and-linuxApr 03 18:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adventuregamers.com | Dreams in the Witch House to become reality on Windows and Linux | Adventure GamersApr 03 18:42
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bnchs__Whaddya need a bootable USB for?Apr 03 18:51
bnchs__Whaddy need a CD/DVD for?Apr 03 18:51
bnchs__Whaddya need a USB for?Apr 03 18:51
bnchs__Whaddya need a storage device forApr 03 18:52
schestowitz-TRor PC?Apr 03 18:52
bnchs__Just. Use. The. ClownApr 03 18:52
schestowitz-TRjust get a '"smart" phoneApr 03 18:52
schestowitz-TRor "tablet" phoneApr 03 18:52
schestowitz-TRhypeTabletApr 03 18:52
schestowitz-TRiPedddApr 03 18:52
psydroid2how to become a 5-minute-clown?Apr 03 18:53
schestowitz-TR"why can't you just do things like NORMAL PEOPLE?"Apr 03 18:53
bnchs__yesApr 03 18:53
psydroid2click here and you'll find outApr 03 18:53
bnchs__Just buy a "smart" TVApr 03 18:53
bnchs__Just buy an AlexaApr 03 18:53
bnchs__Don't worry about itApr 03 18:53
bnchs__It's what the normies doApr 03 18:53
schestowitz-TR"we are a VERY futuristic company, we moved everything to the clown"Apr 03 18:53
schestowitz-TR"we no longer have the BURDEN of having our OWN stuff"Apr 03 18:53
schestowitz-TR"move to the clown" = "sell the house!"Apr 03 18:54
bnchs__yesApr 03 18:54
schestowitz-TR"rent like most people"Apr 03 18:54
schestowitz-TR"take a loan"Apr 03 18:54
bnchs__move everything to someone else's computerApr 03 18:54
bnchs__don't worry about the cosquencesApr 03 18:54
schestowitz-TRapple loves chilldrenApr 03 18:54
bnchs__it's all the hype is aboutApr 03 18:54
schestowitz-TRencryptionApr 03 18:55
schestowitz-TRthat meansApr 03 18:55
schestowitz-TRthe clown provider lets you lock filesApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRit adds a lock icon to them ;-)Apr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRfeels safeApr 03 18:56
bnchs__lolApr 03 18:56
bnchs__that's wrong, royApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRsame in case of crackingApr 03 18:56
bnchs__encryption is just a NOOP instructionApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRthey call it "confidential computing"Apr 03 18:56
bnchs__on their endApr 03 18:56
bnchs__really does nothingApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRwhatsapp is ecryptionApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRONLY Facebook and its partners can read itApr 03 18:56
schestowitz-TRbut not PutinApr 03 18:57
schestowitz-TRLF contributes to this deceptionApr 03 18:57
bnchs__encryption in whatsapp is nothingApr 03 18:57
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schestowitz-TRmisusing terms like end-to-endApr 03 18:57
schestowitz-TRand "confidential"Apr 03 18:57
bnchs__it's backdoored to shittApr 03 18:57
schestowitz-TRzemlin should get lostApr 03 18:57
schestowitz-TRhe has done so much for NSAApr 03 18:57
bnchs__schestowitz-TR: encryption doesn't matter in whatsappApr 03 18:58
bnchs__everything is associated with your phone numberApr 03 18:58
bnchs__whatsapp's backup option stores the messages UNENCRYPTEDApr 03 18:58
bnchs__ON THE CLOWNApr 03 18:58
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techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163314Apr 03 19:15
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techrights-newsEwww, my eyes! I've just accessed ZDNet with Firefox and no extension/ad blocking installed. The Web is so unsafe and despicable.Apr 03 19:52
bnchs__theres nothing worse thanApr 03 19:53
bnchs__accessing a news website without ublock originApr 03 19:54
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schestowitz-TRbnchs__: yes, I know nowApr 03 20:10
schestowitz-TRbut it depends on the siteApr 03 20:10
schestowitz-TRthe next video will showApr 03 20:10
schestowitz-TRso many adsApr 03 20:10
schestowitz-TRin zdnetApr 03 20:11
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techrights-news4 Best Free and Open Source Passive OS Fingerprinting Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163315Apr 03 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source Passive OS Fingerprinting Tools | Tux MachinesApr 03 20:25
techrights-newsThis very much relates to the reason we’ve never used — let alone installed — a video editor. A lot of stuff can be scripted instead. http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/design-recipes/Apr 03 20:27
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psydroid2and one day hopefully merge with the clownApr 03 20:28
schestowitz-TRbe there or be squaredApr 03 20:28
DaemonFC<bnchs__> accessing a news website without ublock originApr 03 20:33
DaemonFCDaleks have no conceeeeeept of ELEGAAAAAANCE!Apr 03 20:33
bnchs__i wanna make a modular alternative frontend programApr 03 20:34
bnchs__something that i can learn from NGINX's structureApr 03 20:34
techrights-newsTOP 5 important aspects when learning Linux for a beginner • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163316Apr 03 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TOP 5 important aspects when learning Linux for a beginner | Tux MachinesApr 03 20:34
schestowitz-TRbnchs__: any quotes re brandon?Apr 03 20:34
schestowitz-TRfor the article?Apr 03 20:34
bnchs__what article?Apr 03 20:34
schestowitz-TRcoming soonApr 03 20:34
schestowitz-TRmake it punctualApr 03 20:35
DaemonFCYou can tell how concerned CNN is about the news. Most of their hiring has been "influencers" to write paid shit for Amazon.Apr 03 20:35
bnchs__well i can't make a quote without knowing the topic?Apr 03 20:35
DaemonFCMaybe Mitchell Baker can pipe it through to your Firefox New Tab page.Apr 03 20:35
DaemonFCExciting new revenue-sharing ideas.Apr 03 20:36
DaemonFCWhen I'm the King of Earth, anyone who ever put "influencer" as a job title on LinkedIn gets sent to the meat grinder universe from Rick & Morty.Apr 03 20:37
bnchs__>rick & mortyApr 03 20:37
bnchs__reddit-tier showApr 03 20:37
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bnchs__i would prefer if they brought back king of the hillApr 03 20:38
schestowitz-TRbnchs__: fair pointApr 03 20:41
schestowitz-TRgive me some time, it's transcodingApr 03 20:42
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techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163317Apr 03 20:47
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DaemonFCThere's actually continuity between the episodes. Which is unusual for a cartoon.Apr 03 20:47
DaemonFCAdventure Time has some, so it really helps to watch in order, but they were also designed for syndication.Apr 03 20:48
bnchs___even thenApr 03 20:49
DaemonFCAdventure Time gets downright depressing sometimes.Apr 03 20:49
DaemonFCVery dark for a "kids show".Apr 03 20:49
bnchs___it's written by a bunch of brainlets that try to make themselves look smart by making up long ass wordsApr 03 20:49
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techrights-newsWhat’s new in GNOME 42 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163094#comment-33271Apr 03 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | People don't like GNOME 42's inconsistent themes | Tux MachinesApr 03 20:50
DaemonFCYou can tell how there were twists and turns where it started out as more of a kids show and then found an older audience that appreciated the occasional inappropriate humor that was slightly obfuscated so kids probably wouldn't pick up on it.Apr 03 20:50
DaemonFCThen it went from inappropriate humor into straight up nihilism.Apr 03 20:50
bnchs___rick and morty is associated with soyboysApr 03 20:52
bnchs___and with good reasonsApr 03 20:52
MinceRwho are soyboys?Apr 03 20:52
DaemonFCWhen you consider the background, imagine that it was less than 10 years ago and they had a child actor who was all of like 13 making crude sex jokes.Apr 03 20:52
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bnchs___MinceR: male person who drinks soy or otherwise filled with estrogenApr 03 20:53
MinceRwhat does estrogen have to do with rick and morty?Apr 03 20:53
DaemonFCNo, I'm absolutely certain that mjg59_ would remove Rick & Morty from the TV if he could.Apr 03 20:54
techrights-newsPlans for GNOME 43 and Beyond • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163318Apr 03 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plans for GNOME 43 and Beyond | Tux MachinesApr 03 20:54
bnchs___the point is rick and morty is most commonly watched by soyboysApr 03 20:54
MinceRso what?Apr 03 20:54
bnchs___just like how nintendo switch is associated with soyboys because they're most commonly played by soyboysApr 03 20:54
DaemonFCAt least if he actually believes what he says he does on his social control media profiles.Apr 03 20:54
bnchs___but even then i wanted king of the hill to come backApr 03 20:56
DaemonFCI don't know why. Every episode was fairly similar.Apr 03 20:56
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DaemonFCHow far can you really go with a guy who can't sit on his lawnmower and sells propane for a living?Apr 03 20:56
bnchs___yes it's obviouslyApr 03 20:57
bnchs___he yells at people for using coalApr 03 20:57
bnchs___instead of propaneApr 03 20:57
DaemonFCThere's really nothing deep at all about King of the Hill. It doesn't even have a story ark.Apr 03 20:57
DaemonFCErrr arc.Apr 03 20:57
DaemonFCBut I mean, like, there's no payoff for watching it. You don't get to piece anything together.Apr 03 20:57
DaemonFCBy the end of the episode, everything is resolved.Apr 03 20:57
bnchs___but it was a really funny showApr 03 20:58
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techrights-newsThe 6 Best Linux-based OS for Android Smartphones • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163319Apr 03 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 6 Best Linux-based OS for Android Smartphones | Tux MachinesApr 03 21:00
immibisis there a schwestowitzism for machine learning? perhaps machine unlearning? artificial stupidity?Apr 03 21:03
immibisDaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right?Apr 03 21:03
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immibisDaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right?Apr 03 21:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I had to rig up an external cooler for the T-Mobile Home Internet modem.Apr 03 21:15
DaemonFCIt just occurred to me that when they crash, they seem to get hot.Apr 03 21:15
DaemonFCSo if you set it atop a fan and turn the fan on, that should blow the hot air out and maybe keep it working. It was just really badly designed.Apr 03 21:15
schestowitz-TRwow, bad designApr 03 21:16
schestowitz-TRalso, waste of powerApr 03 21:16
schestowitz-TRyou turn electricity into hearfApr 03 21:16
schestowitz-TRfor some bloody ethernet or wifiApr 03 21:16
schestowitz-TR*into heatApr 03 21:16
DaemonFCThey get hot and crash and then your internet connection goes down.Apr 03 21:17
schestowitz-TRour connection was last down 2 months agoApr 03 21:17
schestowitz-TRfor like 60 seconds, it self-updated the firmwareApr 03 21:18
immibisDaemonFC: do you just disconnect when pinged?Apr 03 21:20
immibisDaemonFC: "Employers are starting to give up on drug tests, at least until you have an accident and they test you to see if they can get out of paying for it." - you believe in liberty, right?Apr 03 21:20
immibiswe had an ISP router like that, 10-15 years agoApr 03 21:20
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immibisthey are just capitalist products, minimum viable functionality, maximum viable quantityApr 03 21:21
bnchs___lolApr 03 21:21
bnchs___i connect straight to the modemApr 03 21:21
bnchs___with my computerApr 03 21:21
bnchs___yes i know, all the ports i open are gonna be open on WANApr 03 21:22
DaemonFCBetween NordVPN and T-Mobile....Apr 03 21:22
immibisbnchs___: that's illegal. you need at least 3 firewalls or else you lose your geek registrationApr 03 21:22
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bnchs___i don't want to use chinese routers at the same timeApr 03 21:24
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DaemonFCT-Mobile also throttles basically everything but speed test websites.Apr 03 21:27
bnchs___so what if a speed test website hosts a tor entry node?Apr 03 21:28
DaemonFCI don't know. It's really funny because while your videos are buffering, speedtest.net says you're getting 100 Mbps.Apr 03 21:29
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DaemonFCI noticed this with Comcast too.Apr 03 21:30
bnchs___lolApr 03 21:30
bnchs___what if a speed test websiteApr 03 21:30
bnchs___hosts a tor entry nodeApr 03 21:30
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DaemonFCYou get on the VPN, you get 20 Mbps.Apr 03 21:30
bnchs___would you get full speed?Apr 03 21:30
DaemonFCYou get off the VPN, it's back up at almost 100.Apr 03 21:30
DaemonFC<bnchs___> would you get full speed?Apr 03 21:30
DaemonFCMaybe until they find out about it.Apr 03 21:31
bnchs___but if they find out about itApr 03 21:31
bnchs___they can't do shit about itApr 03 21:31
bnchs___if they remove the throttle exceptionApr 03 21:31
DaemonFCWhat port does Tor work over?Apr 03 21:31
bnchs___the user can tell the ISP why my speed is 20 MbpsApr 03 21:31
bnchs___9001-9030Apr 03 21:32
bnchs___but the speedtest website can just host a tor bridgeApr 03 21:32
bnchs___iirc a tor bridge is hosted as a HTTP serviceApr 03 21:34
bnchs___to evade detectionApr 03 21:34
bnchs___so even if tmobile or comcast found outApr 03 21:35
bnchs___they couldn't remove the throttle exception nor ban the siteApr 03 21:35
bnchs___both would result on user complainingApr 03 21:35
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immibisbnchs__: good idea. you should do itApr 03 21:49
bnchs__i do not host a speed test websiteApr 03 21:49
schestowitz-TRbnchs__: draft readyApr 03 21:51
bnchs__ok what is the topicApr 03 21:51
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/xCMYYoM.jpegApr 03 21:52
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/Apr 03 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ‘Protestware’ (and an ‘Open Source’ Issue) | TechrightsApr 03 21:54
schestowitzsee thisApr 03 21:54
bnchs__brandon turned his library into a malware for nothing but to seem like a "hero" to peopleApr 03 21:57
bnchs__it didn't take too long for snyk, and eventually CVE to catch on to his hidden malwareApr 03 21:58
bnchs__after people discovered it, he had attempted to delete the commit and any evidence of his malwareApr 03 21:59
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bnchs__of course, it was too lateApr 03 21:59
bnchs__he got bitten in the ass for itApr 03 21:59
schestowitz-TRokApr 03 22:00
schestowitz-TRI will quote all except the "ass" butApr 03 22:00
bnchs__but i personally wouldn't trust NPMApr 03 22:00
schestowitz-TR*bitApr 03 22:00
schestowitz-TRlolApr 03 22:00
schestowitz-TRnpm is MicrosoftApr 03 22:00
bnchs__it's just a supply chain attack waiting to happenApr 03 22:00
bnchs__he also got doxed for itApr 03 22:00
schestowitz-TRthanksApr 03 22:02
schestowitz-TRyou watched it more closely than meApr 03 22:02
schestowitz-TRso you know what happened and whenApr 03 22:02
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techrights-news⚓ personally w | ♾ Gemini address: personally wApr 03 22:09
techrights-newsCorporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ’Protestware’ (and an &#8216;Open Source&#8217; Issue) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/Apr 03 22:09
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techrights-newsDebian Stable gopher://gopher.unixlore.net:70/0/glog/debian-stable.mdApr 03 22:12
techrights-newsVNC Tinkerings gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220331.txt "The past few days have been spent giving Manjaro on Raspberry Pi a go."Apr 03 22:13
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techrights-news"Interested in what people do instead of using Usenet, I looked at Internet Archive Schoolar. I haven't found nothing more relevant than paper from 2013." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmiApr 03 22:13
techrights-news"My banks webpage did work without JavaScript and (more importantly) over TOR, but they switched systems a while back, and very unfortunately, this feature disappeared. Sniff. And yes, I informed them, that I notice a severe lack of nerd appeal on the current website." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/re-everything-breaks.gmiApr 03 22:14
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techrights-news"Doing grant writing, payroll, creating written resources for classes, scheduling people for work, taking meetings, traveling around town to teach, planning this makerspace, writing articles for a different job entirely. It's a lot. It's a lot and I'm not even making a living wage doing this." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-03-catchingup.gmiApr 03 22:15
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techrights-newsRe: Is There A Better Hard Drive Metaphor? gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-03_Re__Is_There_A_Better_Hard_Drive_Metaphor____2022_04_03__.gmiApr 03 22:16
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mateywhen a sourceforge project leaves sf, theyre almost always moving to ghApr 03 22:20
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schestowitz-TRmatey: makes senseApr 03 22:20
schestowitz-TRthey chose outsourcing the first time aroundApr 03 22:20
mateywhen a project moves to gitlab its almost always from gh, not somewhere elseApr 03 22:21
schestowitz-TRthey just change outsourcing providerApr 03 22:21
mateysr.ht factors in, but not as much (yet) for obvious reasonsApr 03 22:21
mateyi have very mixed feelings about sr.htApr 03 22:21
schestowitz-TRremember many projects won't be visible to youApr 03 22:21
schestowitz-TRthey're not listed in those "hubs"Apr 03 22:21
mateythey're not listed in those "hubs" <- i mean, projects get mentioned SOMEWHEREApr 03 22:22
mateyblogs, websites, distributions...Apr 03 22:22
mateythe fsdApr 03 22:22
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immibis"is there a better hard drive metaphor?" - some research OSes are entirely virtual-memory based with checkpointingApr 03 22:23
mateyi actually never created a gh account (initially)Apr 03 22:23
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mateysomeone i knew (who was into 6502 chips) made an account for meApr 03 22:24
mateybefore the purchaseApr 03 22:24
mateyso i started dropping things thereApr 03 22:24
mateywhen they got bought i was pissedApr 03 22:24
immibisread about KeyKOSApr 03 22:24
immibisand/or its derivativesApr 03 22:24
DaemonFCNordVPN seems to be doing something with Wireguard that makes the nordvpn daemon crash when changing servers. At least with the "Linux" client.Apr 03 22:25
DaemonFC:/Apr 03 22:25
mateypoint is, i never at any point decided "you know what this project needs? a git-based repository!"Apr 03 22:25
mateyborkvpnApr 03 22:25
immibisyou just type "git init" because you want better undoApr 03 22:25
immibisDaemonFC: you know why it's a *virtual* private network? because they can see everything, that's whyApr 03 22:25
mateyhehApr 03 22:25
psydruidwhy isn't nordvpn's client developed as free software?Apr 03 22:26
DaemonFCI've been considering moving to Debian Testing.Apr 03 22:26
DaemonFCCurrently, they have GNOME 42 in there, and it makes some interesting improvements.Apr 03 22:26
matey/me remembers when debian stable wasnt debian testingApr 03 22:26
immibisschestowitz-TR: is there a schestowism for nordvpn?Apr 03 22:26
DaemonFCProbably PanamaVPN.Apr 03 22:26
mateyariadnevpnApr 03 22:26
DaemonFCI could do something with this, but I won't.Apr 03 22:27
immibisVPeeNApr 03 22:27
immibisMordstream2 is a fine German pun. but I don't think the VPN is killing peopleApr 03 22:28
DaemonFCPIA switched their servers to something called "FreedomTech Solutions".Apr 03 22:30
DaemonFCI started calling it Free Dumb Tech.Apr 03 22:30
immibisamerican freedom or actualApr 03 22:30
immibisoh wait PIAApr 03 22:30
mateyif you could walk into a german eatery and order the "viel spaß" that would be a fine german punApr 03 22:30
immibisthat's the one the freenode prince runs?Apr 03 22:30
DaemonFCYes.Apr 03 22:30
mateyveal Apr 03 22:30
psydruidich brauche meinen Mordstream2Apr 03 22:30
DaemonFCIt used to be really cheap, and fast.Apr 03 22:31
immibislogically, then, it wasn't goodApr 03 22:31
mateyof course they woudlnt get it because its not pronounced that wayApr 03 22:31
mateypick 2Apr 03 22:31
immibisviel, spaß, gut: Wahlen Sie zwei?Apr 03 22:32
DaemonFChttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rustc-Bootstrap-GCC-Code-GenApr 03 22:32
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mateyno because its one of the few phrases i know in germanApr 03 22:32
mateyzwei is 2, i know thatApr 03 22:32
mateyalso zwei was emacs initiallyApr 03 22:32
MinceRnot eine?Apr 03 22:32
mateyeine is not emacsApr 03 22:33
mateyoh i get itApr 03 22:33
mateyzwei was eine initiallyApr 03 22:33
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EINE_and_ZWEIApr 03 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | EINE and ZWEI - WikipediaApr 03 22:33
mateymincer is right againApr 03 22:33
mateystop doing thatApr 03 22:33
MinceRcan'tApr 03 22:34
mateyi know, its a bitchApr 03 22:34
mateyits funny, back when people put more trouble into silly namesApr 03 22:35
mateythey also made users more freeApr 03 22:35
mateyim going to go with post hoc here, bring the silly names backApr 03 22:35
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MinceRpeople don't understand silly names anymoreApr 03 22:35
mateyand yet people are sillierApr 03 22:38
mateyits a fucking paradoxApr 03 22:38
immibisyou just gotta name everything "truth" or "trump"Apr 03 22:39
techrights-newsOne Month Passes, Only Comments in a Blog Post Actually Contain Accurate Information About EPO and UPC | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/Apr 03 22:40
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mateytruthinessApr 03 22:41
mateydebian: leafpad is abandoned and insecureApr 03 22:41
mateyopenbsd: hold my beerApr 03 22:41
mateyit turns out its not too difficult to make a better editor than leafpad thoughApr 03 22:41
mateyfor almost any value of betterApr 03 22:42
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-30-22-2.jpgApr 03 22:47
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mateyhttps://www.etsy.com/market/pleated_denim_skirtsApr 03 22:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pleated Denim Skirts | EtsyApr 03 22:50
techrights-newsThe Patent Distortion: The Media Has Failed Us, Patent Extremism Has Replaced It | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/Apr 03 22:50
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mateymost creatively named software package ive found so farApr 03 22:57
mateycccc.sourceforge.netApr 03 22:57
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techrights-news"I have recompiled the 5.15.16 kernel with these third-party modules." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/kernel-modules-rtsbpp-and-rtw89.htmlApr 03 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel modules rts_bpp and rtw89Apr 03 22:57
techrights-news"Steve has now released "MK3" and has sent me a an EasyOS-tweaked PET, and I have updated the EasyOS "noarch" PET repo. Not yet uploaded." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/global-ip-tv-panel-updated-to-2022mk3.htmlApr 03 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Global IP TV Panel updated to 2022MK3Apr 03 22:58
mateynot the first program to be named by a cat though. xcfe and xvkbd are right behind itApr 03 22:58
bnchs___i like how searx northbootApr 03 22:58
MinceR:>Apr 03 22:58
bnchs___prioritzes githubApr 03 22:58
bnchs___when i search for nginx source codeApr 03 22:58
MinceRcshrc is a city in bosniaApr 03 22:58
bnchs___btw the github repoApr 03 22:58
mateyeven if it werent, i would still believe youApr 03 22:58
bnchs___is a mirror of nginx's mercurial repoApr 03 22:58
schestowitz-TRI did not know they still ueed mercurialApr 03 22:59
bnchs___yeahApr 03 22:59
matey"An official read-only mirror of http://hg.nginx.org/nginx/ which is updated hourly. Pull requests on GitHub cannot be accepted and will be automatically closed. "Apr 03 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hg.nginx.org | NO TITLEApr 03 22:59
mateyoing it right ^Apr 03 22:59
mateydApr 03 22:59
bnchs___but it's retardedApr 03 22:59
techrights-news"Today, I would like to discuss one feature of Go 1.18, that I am interested in. No, this will not be another article about generics. The feature I would like to write about is something that might be under the radar for most people, but it still might be useful." https://shibumi.dev/posts/go-18-feature/Apr 03 23:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shibumi.dev | Go 1.18 debug/buildinfo featuresApr 03 23:00
bnchs___that searx would prioritze a github mirrorApr 03 23:00
bnchs___rather than the mercurial sourceApr 03 23:00
matey/me points out that nginx is still on his fork of the fsdApr 03 23:00
techrights-news"We've all heard the GNU/Linux meme but in all seriousness should you actually say GNU/Linux or is it just a big waste of time." Say just "GNU"; it's shorter than Lee-NOX. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EM9oLBepePsApr 03 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Should You Say Gnu/Linux: No Probably Not - InvidiousApr 03 23:01
techrights-newsTiki Trackers is a low- no-code features over Tiki CMS. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163320Apr 03 23:02
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techrights-newsGulagTube’s Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VHsHMWW7qkU ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaApr 03 23:02
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techrights-news"In this video, we are looking at Pop!_OS 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rN1qWxC38MAApr 03 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Pop!_OS 22.04 Beta Run Through - InvidiousApr 03 23:03
techrights-news"In this video, we are looking at Lubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_RESJ1-WPcMApr 03 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Lubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - InvidiousApr 03 23:04
techrights-news"Immich is written with Next.js framework, and uses TensorFlow, and PostgreSQL, Redis, over Nginx server." https://medevel.com/immich/Apr 03 23:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Backup your Android and iPhone photos and videos with ImmichApr 03 23:07
techrights-newsAfter dozens of highly misleading ‘news’ pieces blaming “open source” for the actions of malicious/misguided Brandon*, shipping malware to many people through Microsoft servers, it is probably time to explain what really happened http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/Apr 03 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Slanting Microsoft’s Shipping of Racist Malware as ‘Protestware’ (and an ‘Open Source’ Issue) | TechrightsApr 03 23:08
techrights-newsThe only coverage of the EPO strike came a week after the strike had ended and relegated to a blog post; most of the actual facts are sheltered away in comments while the World Wide Web is basically a pool of disinformation from Team UPC http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/epo-strike-coverage/Apr 03 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Month Passes, Only Comments in a Blog Post Actually Contain Accurate Information About EPO and UPC | TechrightsApr 03 23:08
techrights-newsTeam UPC has become rather quiet lately (just the occasional shameless self-promotion) and there’s no press coverage about the real affairs or the true state of the EPO, where Benoît Battistelli‘s friend António Campinos is doing no better than the predecessor http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-patent-distortion-final-part/Apr 03 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Distortion: The Media Has Failed Us, Patent Extremism Has Replaced It | TechrightsApr 03 23:09
techrights-newsCentOS 7 vs CentOS 8 - Which is a better choice for you? - DekiSoft ⚓ https://dekisoft.com/centos-7-vs-centos-8-comparison/ ䷉ Source: dekisoftApr 03 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CentOS 7 vs CentOS 8 - Which is a better choice for you? - DekiSoftApr 03 23:11
techrights-newsManjaro Vs. Ubuntu (Latest) - Which is the best Linux Version? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163321Apr 03 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs. Ubuntu (Latest) - Which is the best Linux Version? | Tux MachinesApr 03 23:12
matey/me doesnt understand how every single fucking programming language ended up on github (with next to zero exceptions)Apr 03 23:14
mateyhalf? whatever. 2/3? i get it. but basically all of them, ffsApr 03 23:15
mateynot lua (just its libraries) not haskell (but its package manager) Apr 03 23:15
mateyif its not the language, its the libs and/or the package managerApr 03 23:15
schestowitz-TRaudc and c++ are not thereApr 03 23:16
mateyboost.Apr 03 23:16
schestowitz-TRthat's a big chunk of programsApr 03 23:16
chunkya chunk u say..?Apr 03 23:16
schestowitz-TRyeahApr 03 23:16
schestowitz-TRjeff chunkyApr 03 23:16
matey/me has never heard of audcApr 03 23:17
mateymaybe c?Apr 03 23:17
schestowitz-TRhow much was there before 2018?Apr 03 23:17
mateya lot of this is stuff that moved there since 2018Apr 03 23:17
mateylike perlApr 03 23:17
schestowitz-TRbtw, one day there will be an exodus away from gitApr 03 23:17
mateyphpApr 03 23:17
schestowitz-TRlike svn and svnApr 03 23:17
schestowitz-TRthen microsoft will struggle to retain what's leftApr 03 23:17
mateybtw, one day there will be an exodus away from git <- yes, and my answer to that is one day the sun will explodeApr 03 23:17
mateythough the exodus from gh should be long before thatApr 03 23:18
schestowitz-TRnaaa... tehc moves fastApr 03 23:18
mateywhen they finally leave, they will pretend what that being hand-in-hand with microsoft wasnt a great betrayalApr 03 23:18
mateytech moves fast <- lies move fasterApr 03 23:18
schestowitz-TRin less than a decade better things than git will exist, with easy migration route from git Apr 03 23:18
mateystart the clock thenApr 03 23:18
schestowitz-TRlives move fasterApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRnot liesApr 03 23:19
mateylies move very fastApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRtech changes a lot faster than other disciplinesApr 03 23:19
mateythey run most of the planetApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRboth h/w and s/wApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRlook at fbApr 03 23:19
mateythe thing is, you say exodus from githubApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRlosing active users rapidlyApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TRnow trying to 'evolve' for buzzwordApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TR"metaverse"Apr 03 23:19
mateyim not concerned about github PER SEApr 03 23:19
schestowitz-TR"second life"Apr 03 23:19
mateyim concerned about the monopoly microsoft enjoys, and that these so called fighters for freedom dont give an actual damnApr 03 23:20
mateysecond life + metaverse = getalifeApr 03 23:20
schestowitz-TRwell, it is a BOUGHT monopolyApr 03 23:20
schestowitz-TRand SOME of them embrace it before it was a MONOPOLYApr 03 23:20
schestowitz-TRand before MICROSOFTApr 03 23:20
mateyyes, and now they dont give a damnApr 03 23:20
schestowitz-TRRMS cautioned against itApr 03 23:20
mateyyes, and we should have listenedApr 03 23:20
schestowitz-TRbut for reasons like JSApr 03 23:20
mateyit was a good reasonApr 03 23:21
schestowitz-TRI listened and checked gitlabApr 03 23:21
mateyhe also waranted about a bigger problemApr 03 23:21
schestowitz-TRI was already unhappy about the JSApr 03 23:21
mateywarnedApr 03 23:21
mateyhe warned about "ruinous compromise" Apr 03 23:21
matey10 years before github was boughtApr 03 23:21
schestowitz-TRthen the FSF changed its mind about making savannah replacement base don gitlabApr 03 23:21
schestowitz-TRit would be the wrong pathApr 03 23:21
mateygitlab is crap thats whyApr 03 23:21
schestowitz-TRI like what we useApr 03 23:22
schestowitz-TRgit cli and geminiApr 03 23:22
schestowitz-TRvery small and easy to maintainApr 03 23:22
schestowitz-TRit's perl and bashApr 03 23:22
schestowitz-TRand that itself is in gitApr 03 23:22
schestowitz-TRit's like 100-200 lines of codeApr 03 23:22
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-30-22-5.jpgApr 03 23:23
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schestowitz-TRpull request? PULL MA FINGAApr 03 23:23
schestowitz-TRpatches by email are easyApr 03 23:23
schestowitz-TRsave, diff, commitApr 03 23:23
schestowitz-TRemail as a standard/rfc is itself handyApr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRcan still be deal with 20 years from now, for sure...Apr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRbtw, same for editing workflowApr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRas you knowApr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRsimple text filesApr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRI don't use the wordpress uiApr 03 23:24
schestowitz-TRI pasted into it from kateApr 03 23:24
mateyyou can streamline it even moreApr 03 23:25
schestowitz-TRdrupal has drushApr 03 23:25
mateyif you stop using email and ditch the dns shitApr 03 23:25
schestowitz-TRirc stuff is python, bash etc.Apr 03 23:25
schestowitz-TRand at the core it's all simple textApr 03 23:25
mateypython of course is becoming a non-programming languageApr 03 23:25
mateyand turning into a webapi like rustApr 03 23:26
schestowitz-TRwithout dns you are becoming hard to accessApr 03 23:26
schestowitz-TRlike onion addresses for ircApr 03 23:26
mateyonion addresses for irc are easy enough for a child to useApr 03 23:26
schestowitz-TRif a child has tor all set upApr 03 23:26
mateytor is easy enough for a child to set upApr 03 23:26
schestowitz-TRin some countries restrictions existApr 03 23:26
mateyin some countries restrictions exist <- that is sort of the whole bloody pointApr 03 23:27
schestowitz-TRwhere XRevan86 is a rot operator and debian dev was raised by putin's regimeApr 03 23:27
schestowitz-TR*raidedApr 03 23:27
mateymost of the countries with restrictions, tor gets aroundApr 03 23:27
schestowitz-TRiirc, because someone uploaded some kanye west videoApr 03 23:27
XRevan86A rot operator?Apr 03 23:28
mateyi know more people who use tor to bypass restrictions than people who are restricted because of itApr 03 23:28
mateyhopefully not a deliberate typoApr 03 23:28
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: OOPSApr 03 23:28
schestowitz-TRin russia, tor is read from start to finishApr 03 23:28
schestowitz-TRmatey: accidentalApr 03 23:29
schestowitz-TRnot even freudian slipApr 03 23:29
schestowitz-TRQWERTYApr 03 23:29
mateyqwerty is a pretty terrible artifact of pre-computing daysApr 03 23:29
*XRevan86 shrugs.Apr 03 23:29
schestowitz-TRyes, I knowApr 03 23:29
schestowitz-TRbut if you choose something else that works... until you leave your own machineApr 03 23:29
schestowitz-TRand some devices do not offer alt layouts for their keyboard st allApr 03 23:30
mateyi mean im sure i could learn how to use a different keyboardApr 03 23:30
schestowitz-TRso even your own devices might not obey youApr 03 23:30
mateybut a reliable supply of non-qwerty keyboards? that part is trickyApr 03 23:30
schestowitz-TRyou can use the same oneApr 03 23:30
mateyi could remap  all my keys tooApr 03 23:30
schestowitz-TRif you memorise key locationsApr 03 23:30
mateybut on that front i truly cant be arsedApr 03 23:30
schestowitz-TROSes that let you alter mapping already support alt layoutsApr 03 23:31
schestowitz-TRthe problem is those that support neitherApr 03 23:31
schestowitz-TRor a friend's computer or public terminalApr 03 23:31
mateywell i havent used a public computer in agesApr 03 23:31
schestowitz-TRthey use YOUApr 03 23:31
mateyoh yeah, like the others dontApr 03 23:32
schestowitz-TRand usually they are not even THEMApr 03 23:32
schestowitz-TRThey are some companiesApr 03 23:32
schestowitz-TRcontrolling them remoatelyApr 03 23:32
mateyid have to REALLY LOVE computers to still bother with them these daysApr 03 23:32
schestowitz-TRso you are used by some company via some machine that is not even yourssApr 03 23:32
mateyive put more work into that than my first marriageApr 03 23:32
mateywe will see which was more hopelessApr 03 23:33
schestowitz-TRwe have working computers older than our marriageApr 03 23:33
mateyi actually still had my second ever pc when i lived in my first apartmentApr 03 23:33
mateyits was a generic 286Apr 03 23:34
mateyi moved it from a desktop case that weighed a fuckload to a minitowerApr 03 23:34
schestowitz-TRtwo floppy drives?Apr 03 23:34
schestowitz-TR5,25?Apr 03 23:34
mateyone 5.25 and one 3.5Apr 03 23:34
psydruidcomputers have been the bigger conApr 03 23:34
mateyi added an ide controller because it was fucking mfmApr 03 23:34
mateyand i got it on the internetApr 03 23:34
psydruidyou could do everything you can do now in the 90s tooApr 03 23:35
schestowitz-TRwith fewer polygonsApr 03 23:35
schestowitz-TRand fewer colours (depth)Apr 03 23:35
schestowitz-TRwhich does not add much practical valueApr 03 23:35
mateyi dont knowApr 03 23:35
mateyi would say 24bit colour is worth itApr 03 23:36
mateyi certainly thought so before i had itApr 03 23:36
mateyand i didnt change my mind afterApr 03 23:36
schestowitz-TRnot for textApr 03 23:36
schestowitz-TRmaybe for pr0na nd stuffApr 03 23:36
schestowitz-TRfor most computer tasks the colour is showoffApr 03 23:36
schestowitz-TRyou could do OK with 8 bitApr 03 23:36
schestowitz-TRand high resApr 03 23:36
mateylol, because the only real point of full colour in video and photos is naked stuffApr 03 23:36
mateyjust today someone sent me a video of them dancingApr 03 23:36
mateynot that kind of dancing.Apr 03 23:36
mateyi think 24bit colour helpedApr 03 23:37
techrights-newsDebian vs Ubuntu (2022 Comparison): 101 Guide to Choose Your Distro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163322Apr 03 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian vs Ubuntu (2022 Comparison): 101 Guide to Choose Your Distro | Tux MachinesApr 03 23:37
mateywhen i was using a 16-bit machineApr 03 23:38
techrights-newsLinus Torvalds Announces First Linux 5.18 Kernel Release Candidate • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163323Apr 03 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux 5.18 Kernel Release Candidate | Tux MachinesApr 03 23:38
mateythere were many things i hoped for for the futureApr 03 23:38
mateyfull colour video was oneApr 03 23:38
mateyunpaged memory access was anotherApr 03 23:38
mateythis is when i was a kidApr 03 23:38
mateyi dont think these are gimmicksApr 03 23:38
mateywith that said, my window manager is...Apr 03 23:39
mateya 52k binaryApr 03 23:39
psydruidmy first PC had a Pentium processor, so I missed all of that funApr 03 23:39
XRevan86MinceR: Has Orban commented in any way on the atrocities committed in the Kiew oblast'?Apr 03 23:39
psydruidalthough I had an MSX 2 before that as wellApr 03 23:40
MinceRXRevan86: i haven't heard of itApr 03 23:40
schestowitzmatey: https://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-uga-dancers-rehearse-for-upcoming-ubuntu-show/collection_82610246-95b4-11ec-b065-73d009120291.htmlApr 03 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PHOTOS: UGA dancers rehearse for upcoming ‘UBUNTU’ show | Multimedia | redandblack.comApr 03 23:40
MinceRsome of the lower downs started calling the war what it is, eventuallyApr 03 23:40
schestowitzjust in, rss feedsApr 03 23:40
mateyi had an american rebadge of a british 8bitApr 03 23:40
MinceRbut i suspect that's going to end soonApr 03 23:40
matey<schestowitz> matey: https://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-uga-dancers-rehearse-for-upcoming-ubuntu-show/ <- i blame kanyeApr 03 23:40
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mateyoh waitApr 03 23:41
mateydifferent ubuntuApr 03 23:41
mateyNOT canonicalApr 03 23:41
mateythats a reliefApr 03 23:41
mateyi would have blamed kanye for canonical having dancers and a showApr 03 23:42
XRevan86MinceR: Does the Hungarian TV spread Russian propaganda regarding it?Apr 03 23:42
XRevan86I won't believe for a second that they didn't cover it at all.Apr 03 23:42
MinceRafaik it doesApr 03 23:42
MinceRbut i don't really follow itApr 03 23:42
XRevan86Some of those claims offend me with their stupidity and ease of debunking, so I'm curious which Hungarian TV picked up.Apr 03 23:43
mateyby the way XRevan86 i have an easy one for youApr 03 23:43
mateyive already heard a theory about this, but since you surely know whether its bunk or not, i thought id get your 2c/2p on itApr 03 23:43
matey(2r?)Apr 03 23:44
XRevan862kApr 03 23:44
matey2kApr 03 23:44
XRevan86or maybe actually 2cApr 03 23:44
mateysoApr 03 23:44
mateyhehApr 03 23:44
mateyamerican spelling of english words...Apr 03 23:44
XRevan86kopek, kopeck, copeck, whateverApr 03 23:44
mateyits from britain, but britain has actually changed spelling since then, hence the difference. true or false?Apr 03 23:44
mateythird option welcome.Apr 03 23:44
XRevan86matey: False.Apr 03 23:44
mateyso what actually happened?Apr 03 23:45
XRevan86matey: It's true with some words like "tyre", but that's pretty minor. Apr 03 23:45
mateyand more generally?Apr 03 23:45
XRevan86I'll find you a Wikipedia article.Apr 03 23:45
mateyas long as its got your endorsementApr 03 23:45
mateyi mean i dont consider you the world authority on it or anythingApr 03 23:46
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163324Apr 03 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 03 23:46
mateybut at the very least, the local one.Apr 03 23:46
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_spelling_reform#19th_century this will doApr 03 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | English-language spelling reform - WikipediaApr 03 23:47
XRevan86> In 1806, Noah Webster published his first dictionary, A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language. It included an essay on the oddities of modern orthography and his proposals for reform. Many of the spellings he used, such as color and center, would become hallmarks of American English.Apr 03 23:47
mateywhoaApr 03 23:47
mateyso it was prescriptive?Apr 03 23:47
XRevan86yepApr 03 23:48
mateyffs.Apr 03 23:48
mateythats crazy!Apr 03 23:48
mateywhat a cheeky bastardApr 03 23:48
mateyamericans and their "this is the CORRECT way... that i just made up!"Apr 03 23:49
mateyi dont blame them for the difference, noApr 03 23:50
mateyjust the idea that you can be completely arbitrary and then say "well, this is the RIGHT way"Apr 03 23:50
XRevan86The "colour→color" thing is pretty much de-French-ification, by the way. "color" is a pure Latin spelling.Apr 03 23:50
mateyThe "colour→color" thing is pretty much de-French-ification, by the way <- well, yesApr 03 23:50
mateybut i assumed the "frenchification" came AFTER the mayflower, so to speakApr 03 23:50
mateyand what youre implying is, it came beforeApr 03 23:51
XRevan86So is the "organisation→organization", except not to Latin but to Greek.Apr 03 23:51
mateyalso spake sarathustraApr 03 23:51
XRevan86matey: Of course before.Apr 03 23:51
mateymatey: Of course before. <- and yet ive heard the opposite!Apr 03 23:51
mateyim glad i asked. Apr 03 23:51
XRevan86It's a basic word, it's only natural to assume it came from Anglo-Norman, Latin words usually come to English through scholarly stuff.Apr 03 23:52
XRevan86English has *a lot* of words from Anglo-Norman French.Apr 03 23:52
mateyi guess webster wasnt a francophileApr 03 23:53
XRevan86He wanted to make spelling more regular I guess.Apr 03 23:54
mateyi mean i can appreciate that, sort ofApr 03 23:54
mateybut by "more regular" of course we meanApr 03 23:54
matey"different from the rest of the english speaking world"Apr 03 23:54
mateyand it didnt get much farther. i dont think it even made it all the way to canada.Apr 03 23:54
matey"defrenchification, eh? good luck with that here!"Apr 03 23:55
matey(weve been trying for years!)Apr 03 23:55
XRevan86matey: Would've been nice if he'd tried to remove mistakenly inserted letters from words like "island" and "limb" :)Apr 03 23:56
mateyi guess he knew his limitsApr 03 23:57
mateyhed already failed to conquor the northApr 03 23:57
XRevan86The English like to overcomplicate words way too much.Apr 03 23:57
mateyi draw the line at maneuverApr 03 23:58
mateyman-ovary is just too muchApr 03 23:58
mateyalso every single license that means a thing to me spells it "license" so...Apr 03 23:58
mateyits "license" now, sorryApr 03 23:58
mateywhich it is anyway! just not all the timeApr 03 23:59
XRevan86matey: I look at that word like at advice/adviseApr 03 23:59
psydruidthis "island" form is curiousApr 03 23:59
MinceRiirc license is usian and licence is britishApr 03 23:59
mateymincer: its worse than thatApr 03 23:59
mateyit depends on whether its noun or verb in britishApr 03 23:59
MinceR:>Apr 03 23:59
XRevan86"to license a licence" is the non-US formApr 03 23:59
psydruidin Dutch we have "eiland" and German has "Insel"Apr 03 23:59
mateylicense is actually correct on either side of the pond, depending on the contextApr 03 23:59
mateyi mean thats a bit much.Apr 03 23:59

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