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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/dejxqs/macos_catalina_requires_notarised_apps_in_order/ | Oct 08 00:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | MacOS Catalina requires "Notarised" apps in order to run them - the end of MacOS piracy? : Piracy | Oct 08 00:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Our goal is to make every Mac user safe by defau." | Oct 08 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *default | Oct 08 00:06 |
| scientes | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | Oct 08 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: "Congratulations! You are being rescued. Please do not resist." | Oct 08 00:06 |
| scientes | everybody knew this was coming | Oct 08 00:07 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: "Don't run, we are your friends." | Oct 08 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ACK ACK ACK ACK!!!! | Oct 08 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: People call you antisocial whenever they want you to do something stupid and you don't agree because it won't be good for you. It's funny how that happens. | Oct 08 00:09 |
| scientes | NACK NACK NACK NACK | Oct 08 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | Submit to our peer pressure! | Oct 08 00:09 |
| scientes | XRevan86, that really is all it is | Oct 08 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | except it's less of a peer thing and more of a vertical downward thing | Oct 08 00:10 |
| MinceR | they claim you can still choose to run anything | Oct 08 00:10 |
| MinceR | but they already broke Xonotic before | Oct 08 00:10 |
| scientes | MinceR, on a site that doens't work on firefox | Oct 08 00:10 |
| MinceR | so it's usual crApple business: they lie to their own customers | Oct 08 00:10 |
| scientes | MinceR, and constantly abandon their paying customer | Oct 08 00:11 |
| scientes | like when they needlessly switched to 32-bit intel, when 64-bit existed | Oct 08 00:11 |
| scientes | and then quickly abandoned it | Oct 08 00:11 |
| scientes | absolute scumbags | Oct 08 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | "on a site that doens't work on firefox" – where? | Oct 08 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | found it | Oct 08 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | There's a certain way people speak at conferences, it kind of gives the speech the feel that something's lectury is being said | Oct 08 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | When I listen to a talk about an RDBMS, I can dig it | Oct 08 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | when banal empty phrases are being said, something just feels off | Oct 08 00:15 |
| scientes | hmmmm | Oct 08 00:15 |
| scientes | any advise for me? | Oct 08 00:16 |
| scientes | I give a tack in 2 weeks | Oct 08 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Don't say words "And that means that there will always be a way to run a specific piece of software that you want to run on your system." as if you're teaching someone something %) | Oct 08 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of Apple's solutions are something that no team of real engineers would be caught dead doing. | Oct 08 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | and then don't make a pause "there will always be a way, think about it, internalise that knowledge" | Oct 08 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the small stuff too, like making a pseudo-little endian AIFF format for no reason when software could just reverse it if necessary. | Oct 08 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | "there's no rush" :D | Oct 08 00:19 |
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| MinceR | or like putting the antenna around the phone with no insulation so the user will normally grip it and short-circuit it | Oct 08 00:20 |
| MinceR | and then tell the user they're "holding it wrong" | Oct 08 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now there's talk of "transitioning" Macs to arm and their victims will have to go through this bullshit again, and arm is bi-endian so that AIFF hack becomes pointless. Not that that's the worst that will come from Apple never being happy with the architecture they chose last time. | Oct 08 00:20 |
| MinceR | and then "fix" it by putting a second antenna inside the device, but keeping the first one | Oct 08 00:21 |
| MinceR | i think they can still fuck up endianness | Oct 08 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: In the year 2029: now it's time to transition to RISC-V | Oct 08 00:23 |
| MinceR | not for crApple | Oct 08 00:23 |
| MinceR | crApple is The Trailing Edge of Technologyâ„¢ | Oct 08 00:23 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/28/ff38ea195847cb90.jpg | Oct 08 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | In the year 2049: macOS get a bash upgrade to 4.x | Oct 08 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | gets | Oct 08 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, they'll still be using bash from 2007. | Oct 08 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their platform doesn't actually have to work well. People will buy it anyway. They've proven that. | Oct 08 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: But imagine the looks on Apple fan faces. | Oct 08 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | such innovation! | Oct 08 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | But this kind of innovation is too much even for such mastodonts as Apple… | Oct 08 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of funny that Bash on Windows is more recent than it is on the Mac. | Oct 08 00:27 |
| scientes | why? | Oct 08 00:28 |
| scientes | oh, cause mac ships bash | Oct 08 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Yes, but they stick to the GPLv2 version. | Oct 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is developing another terminal for Windows. This one is apparently open source. So that makes......four different terminals that are all incompatible? | Oct 08 00:28 |
| scientes | yes I am aware | Oct 08 00:28 |
| MinceR | microsoft is more desperate, so they loosened their hatred of copyleft earlier | Oct 08 00:28 |
| scientes | along with gcc 4.5 | Oct 08 00:28 |
| scientes | 4.6 | Oct 08 00:28 |
| scientes | MinceR, oh really, microsoft ships gplv3 code? | Oct 08 00:29 |
| scientes | that's news to me | Oct 08 00:29 |
| MinceR | well, if you want a supply of crappy terminals, microsoft is a pretty good source for that | Oct 08 00:29 |
| MinceR | scientes: probably not directly | Oct 08 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You know that they helped write an alternative without GPLv3 | Oct 08 00:29 |
| MinceR | then again, they might be the ones taking over the Gratis Windows Foundation, so it might not even matter that much | Oct 08 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | I thought they removed GCC already. If not, they'll get to that. | Oct 08 00:29 |
| scientes | gcc is a symlink to clang on mac | Oct 08 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | I thought I'm over it | Oct 08 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But you made it fresh but adding new information that gave it a new layer of stupid | Oct 08 00:31 |
| scientes | what new information? | Oct 08 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That they added a symlink | Oct 08 00:32 |
| scientes | that isn't that suprising | Oct 08 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | they can't just grep gcc out of xcode? | Oct 08 00:33 |
| MinceR | this way their hostages can believe they still have gcc | Oct 08 00:33 |
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| scientes | BAM, someone said it https://lwn.net/Articles/801523/ | Oct 08 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman and the GNU project [LWN.net] | Oct 08 00:38 | |
| scientes | "The problem is, if for some people to feel welcome what is required is a purge of any opinion and person they don't like, I don't think that makes for an inclusive environment over all. " | Oct 08 00:38 |
| P_B | Now now, just because you opine on a mailing list and contributed code five years ago, doesn't make your opinion any less representative than that of a core developer who is too busy coding to engage in a political witch-hunt. | Oct 08 00:40 |
| P_B | Oh, wait, that's exactly what it does. | Oct 08 00:41 |
| P_B | Silly me. Up is down, left is authoritarian. I still get confused. | Oct 08 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if FAAC has improved at all. | Oct 08 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, there is one developer who is trying to improve on output quality. | Oct 08 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've also replaced quite a lot of the non-Free ISO code with code under the GPL. | Oct 08 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | [22:46] <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/ToqvjOA.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z7RskeY ) | Oct 08 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surface tension - Album on Imgur | Oct 08 01:19 | |
| schestowitz | very near | Oct 08 01:19 |
| schestowitz | *neat | Oct 08 01:19 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <srid> What the heck is this: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ | Oct 08 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-guix.gnu.org | Joint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU Guix | Oct 08 01:19 | |
| schestowitz | "rebel GNU" | Oct 08 01:20 |
| schestowitz | not necessarily the view of more than 10% of the gnu project | Oct 08 01:20 |
| schestowitz | [00:38] <scientes> "The problem is, if for some people to feel welcome what is required is a purge of any opinion and person they don't like, I don't think that makes for an inclusive environment over all. " | Oct 08 01:26 |
| schestowitz | well put | Oct 08 01:26 |
| schestowitz | everyone with a mouth of keyboard will at some point write something that upsets someone, maybe even everyone (at different points in time) | Oct 08 01:27 |
| P_B | "Mr Stallman thank you for making this great thing, the dead skin of which we will now wear to promote our politics." | Oct 08 01:29 |
| MrGreenFriend_ | of course. that GNU Guix statement is so vague, that it can target anyone... for the next purge. | Oct 08 01:31 |
| scientes | MrGreenFriend_, yep | Oct 08 01:32 |
| schestowitz | what I don't like is this: | Oct 08 01:42 |
| schestowitz | they may be right to say RMS does not represent them personally | Oct 08 01:42 |
| schestowitz | however: | Oct 08 01:42 |
| schestowitz | what they do is leverage a smear campaign, as if that somehow legitimises their general disdain | Oct 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | that in itself sets up a precedent, which becomes a threat to anyone with an opinion | Oct 08 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | RMS without a 'big mouth' would be just another corporate 'drone' http://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/ | Oct 08 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | Techrights | Oct 08 02:13 | |
| srid | Just noticed that Github's code-of-conduct discriminates against people of certain political beliefs, while that of Microsoft is accepting of it all. | Oct 08 02:28 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/27/github-run-by-racist-microsoft/ | Oct 08 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Takeover of GitHub Already an Attack on the Four Freedoms in Service of Empire | Techrights | Oct 08 02:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/microsoft-censorship-of-foss/ | Oct 08 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reactions to Microsoft Turning GitHub Into a Racist Government’s Censorship Platform (Censorship of FOSS) | Techrights | Oct 08 02:30 | |
| srid | I should have said "Open at Microsoft" (a subdivision) I guess, as they were the one who wrote the CoC. https://twitter.com/carnivivre/status/1181380319469019138 | Oct 08 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@carnivivre: So @atomeditor's "Code of Conduct" does *not* ensure a harassment-free experience for everyone regardless of certai… https://t.co/MkdZxFfrm5 | Oct 08 02:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@carnivivre: So @atomeditor's "Code of Conduct" does *not* ensure a harassment-free experience for everyone regardless of certai… https://t.co/MkdZxFfrm5 | Oct 08 02:31 | |
| schestowitz | Open Buttcheecks AT Microsoft | Oct 08 02:31 |
| schestowitz | *cheeks | Oct 08 02:32 |
| srid | Just pointing out that at least that got that one thing right. https://opensource.microsoft.com/codeofconduct/ ("This includes, but is not limited to members of any ... political belief") which is emphatically rejected by the proponents of the Contributor Covenant (which many OSS projects uncritically adopt as their CoC): https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/pull/580#pullrequestreview-158014807 | Oct 08 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.microsoft.com | Code of Conduct | Oct 08 02:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fix potential for abuse by skylarmt · Pull Request #580 · ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant · GitHub | Oct 08 02:33 | |
| schestowitz | social-engineering | Oct 08 02:33 |
| schestowitz | corporations excluding particular people | Oct 08 02:34 |
| schestowitz | a culture of fear | Oct 08 02:34 |
| srid | You mean Contributor Covenant excluding particular people? | Oct 08 02:34 |
| srid | It is not a corporation. | Oct 08 02:34 |
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| schestowitz | if a company adopts it | Oct 08 02:35 |
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| schestowitz | on paper these sound like a noble cause | Oct 08 02:37 |
| schestowitz | I am finding that, over time, they can be misused >a lot< for corporate and political purges | Oct 08 02:37 |
| schestowitz | There are insufficient safeguards against witchhunts | Oct 08 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Because the presumption is that only one side can be abused and oppressed, and that side tends to entertain trolls who do the trolling for a thrill or ego trips | Oct 08 02:38 |
| schestowitz | this hurts legitimate critics of online bullying, which is a shame... | Oct 08 02:39 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: ping | Oct 08 03:13 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: i am planning to block several instances because, frankly, i am tired of dealing with alt-right people | Oct 08 03:14 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: and so i am thinking it may make sense to deploy an instance for techrights (which can operate however techrights wishes to operate) | Oct 08 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I see | Oct 08 03:16 |
| schestowitz | is that related to something I posted BTW? | Oct 08 03:16 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: no | Oct 08 03:18 |
| schestowitz | I guess the fediverse is growing | Oct 08 03:18 |
| schestowitz | I see more Linux sites on it now | Oct 08 03:19 |
| schestowitz | people who ignored it for too long | Oct 08 03:19 |
| schestowitz | [19:16] <schestowitz> " hi Dr. Roy, I admired your Techrights blog for long time. I really like how you collected historical proofs about Microsoft hostilities against free software community. No other blog I know gives what Techrights gives for me. Thanks, I learned a lot. Greetings!" | Oct 08 03:22 |
| schestowitz | He's a good blogger | Oct 08 03:22 |
| schestowitz | Also phoronix and Liam Dawe are on the fediverse now | Oct 08 03:22 |
| schestowitz | very good to see FOSS people migrating there rather than assuming it's not worth it... | Oct 08 03:22 |
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| scientes | ugggh, wikipedia has gotten so much woorse | Oct 08 03:59 |
| scientes | at least the English wikipedia | Oct 08 03:59 |
| scientes | it inherits the rot of the mind that is so common in the US | Oct 08 03:59 |
| *scientes was trying to look up a old theory of why Europeans were better than more equatorial peoples | Oct 08 04:00 | |
| scientes | that said it was because of the decipline of firewood | Oct 08 04:00 |
| schestowitz | they had better weapons | Oct 08 04:00 |
| schestowitz | (also bigger in numbers) | Oct 08 04:00 |
| scientes | no i'm talking talking about facts | Oct 08 04:00 |
| scientes | i'm talking about one specific theory | Oct 08 04:01 |
| scientes | *i'm not talking about facts | Oct 08 04:01 |
| scientes | the best theories in sociology are not true | Oct 08 04:01 |
| scientes | and the true ones are not very interesting or educative | Oct 08 04:01 |
| schestowitz | best as in most cited? | Oct 08 04:01 |
| scientes | well if its true, then its not much a theory as a fact | Oct 08 04:02 |
| scientes | the values of theories is that they make you think | Oct 08 04:02 |
| scientes | So these "liberal" books that are like "Oh, and then they killed everyone [long description of how], oh but it was so horrible, and they were so horrible for doing it, and we should pity them....blah blah blah" | Oct 08 04:03 |
| scientes | you see, its still glorifying it, before it claims that it is ashamed of that glory | Oct 08 04:03 |
| scientes | (this is what the Ted Kaczynski pointed out in his manifesto) | Oct 08 04:04 |
| scientes | a good example is "Guns, germs, and steel" | Oct 08 04:04 |
| scientes | i.e. Europeans really *are* better than everyone, and this is how they did it...oh, and BTW we should be ashamed that they were so bad-ass. | Oct 08 04:05 |
| scientes | ugggh, I need to learn a new language just so I don't have to see all the mind-rot | Oct 08 04:07 |
| scientes | like I love Great Man Theory | Oct 08 04:08 |
| scientes | but since men are BAD, great man theory is out of favor for vague notions of large groups of people, and inpersonal and very inaccurate statistics | Oct 08 04:08 |
| scientes | and lots of vague value judgements of large groups of people and events, without a clear source | Oct 08 04:09 |
| P_B | In my experience when you see two good theories that nicely explain something you observe and are apparently in competition, we eventually figure out that the truth is some complement of both theories, rather than one or the other. | Oct 08 04:11 |
| P_B | Usually, of course. | Oct 08 04:11 |
| P_B | Sometimes one's just wrong. | Oct 08 04:11 |
| scientes | ^ | Oct 08 04:11 |
| scientes | I was about to correct you that the "everyone is right" theory is very, very false | Oct 08 04:11 |
| P_B | Yeah. | Oct 08 04:11 |
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| schestowitz | depending on capacity to persuade | Oct 08 04:12 |
| schestowitz | and sadly money helps there | Oct 08 04:12 |
| schestowitz | which explains the state of Wikipedia | Oct 08 04:12 |
| scientes | not entirely | Oct 08 04:12 |
| scientes | wikipedia is also a hive mind | Oct 08 04:12 |
| scientes | and when most of english-speaking society is pretty sick, wikipedia contracts it too | Oct 08 04:13 |
| scientes | except the non-native speakers | Oct 08 04:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't even believe that copyright trolls still monitor bittorrent swarms. | Oct 08 04:13 |
| scientes | but they don't compulsively edit wikipedia | Oct 08 04:13 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], they don't its all computers | Oct 08 04:13 |
| scientes | we are even bred by machines these days | Oct 08 04:13 |
| scientes | first cows, now humans | Oct 08 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Ooooohhhhheeeee, you pirated something from 1977 that anyone can download off Youtube with a browser extension! We're gonna tell your ISP on you!" | Oct 08 04:14 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], you can solve that just by getting a 3eu/mo VPS with scaleway | Oct 08 04:14 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], its more a symptom thing however. When the fat cats can't get their way, they try to make everyone feel guilty | Oct 08 04:15 |
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| scientes | and they are brutal hypocrits | Oct 08 04:15 |
| scientes | and these people are highly hated in the US, for good reason | Oct 08 04:15 |
| scientes | and it is because of them that people fear science | Oct 08 04:16 |
| scientes | and anti-vaxers, et cetera | Oct 08 04:16 |
| scientes | its that the "smart" people they meet are just trying to cheat them and steal from them, et cetera | Oct 08 04:16 |
| scientes | doctors are the worst | Oct 08 04:16 |
| scientes | the US is a pyramid scheme | Oct 08 04:17 |
| scientes | and its universally known that the higher up the pyramid you are the woorse person you are | Oct 08 04:17 |
| scientes | so no wonder educated people are hated | Oct 08 04:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181319 | Oct 08 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is Torvalds. In his forties. Not only me thinking he ages fast. See photos here: http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/unhealthy-to-linux/ | Oct 08 04:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_1edcbf56d0a9cf5704de.jpeg | Oct 08 04:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | LF Kool-Aid is Unhealthy to Linux | Techrights | Oct 08 04:44 | |
| schestowitz | Torvalds looks almost 60 now | Oct 08 04:44 |
| schestowitz | warp speed | Oct 08 04:44 |
| schestowitz | tell me I'm wrong... | Oct 08 04:44 |
| schestowitz | please | Oct 08 04:44 |
| schestowitz | direct URL to new photo: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_1edcbf56d0a9cf5704de.jpeg | Oct 08 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Also Torvalds: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Linus-Torvalds-2019.jpg | Oct 08 04:47 |
| schestowitz | I'm tempted to say it's an illness | Oct 08 04:47 |
| schestowitz | or, as a joke, Microsoft et al put something in his drink :/ | Oct 08 04:47 |
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| cubexyz | Linus will be 50 this december | Oct 08 04:53 |
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| *cubexyz looks | Oct 08 04:54 | |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Oct 08 04:55 |
| scientes | Putin just had his birthday | Oct 08 04:56 |
| scientes | picked mushrooms in the wild | Oct 08 04:56 |
| cubexyz | not enough sleep combined with weight gain | Oct 08 04:57 |
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| schestowitz | It's like he aged 10 years in one year | Oct 08 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181356 | Oct 08 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181347 | Oct 08 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181337 | Oct 08 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Be careful of people who tell you #torvalds is "sexist" without ever citing any proof (he's in a household of 3 women and 1 men; no evidence of sexism online or offline) | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181319 | Oct 08 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One year since #torvalds was forced into a "break". It's like he aged 10 years in one year. See http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Linus-Torvalds-2019.jpg and https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_1edcbf56d0a9cf5704de.jpeg | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181314 | Oct 08 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Swapnil also misuses #linux dot com for #openwashing of #facebook (clue: data is not code) https://www.linux.com/news/facebook-open-sources-data-set-for-code-search-ai-benchmark/ see the modus operandi: http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/a-nonprofit-pr-agency/ | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Facebook open-sources data set for code search AI benchmark - Linux.com | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Openwashing of VMware, Sponsored by the Linux Foundation (in Turn Sponsored by VMware) | Techrights | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Swapnil has just propped up the #microsoft #zdnet #propaganda of his "mentor" https://www.linux.com/news/linus-torvalds-isnt-worried-about-microsoft-taking-over-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2019/10/05/media-hostile-towards-software-freedom/ | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linus Torvalds isn't worried about Microsoft taking over Linux - Linux.com | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Slow Death of Technical Media | Techrights | Oct 08 05:10 | |
| cubexyz | Stallman recommened to microsoft to release the source code of windows under the GPL | Oct 08 05:12 |
| cubexyz | recommended | Oct 08 05:12 |
| schestowitz | he knows it won't happen | Oct 08 05:14 |
| cubexyz | M$ put the source code for the windows calculator on github | Oct 08 05:15 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure it's not under the GPL | Oct 08 05:16 |
| cubexyz | MIT license, which isn't terrible | Oct 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Oct 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz | iirc something like mit licence [sic] | Oct 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz | and it shows they even spy on people while they merely calculate | Oct 08 05:17 |
| schestowitz | that's how bloody ridiculous windows is... | Oct 08 05:17 |
| schestowitz | haha, to improve your calculating experience... TELEMETRY! | Oct 08 05:17 |
| cubexyz | how does it do that? | Oct 08 05:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Spyware in the calculator? | Oct 08 05:17 |
| schestowitz | sends usage data | Oct 08 05:17 |
| schestowitz | yes, like a keylogger | Oct 08 05:18 |
| schestowitz | "BUT THE GOOGLE!!!!!" | Oct 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I removed "Samsung Calculator" from my phone. | Oct 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I realized I didn't have a calculator. So I installed one from F-Droid. | Oct 08 05:18 |
| cubexyz | I assume kcalc is still maintained | Oct 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can remove Samsung Pay now. | Oct 08 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As of Oreo. | Oct 08 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I kept accidentally hitting it when trying to unlock my phone. | Oct 08 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now if they'd let you remove Bixby, we'd be making even more progress. | Oct 08 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everything that Samsung adds to Android makes it worse. | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | we need to move all people to free s/w | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | as all those "apps" have gotten really bad | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | even games | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | even shitty ones like Angry Birds | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | They spy | Oct 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz | (it's considered socially acceptable now) | Oct 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know that's a bad problem because most of the people playing that are pooping. | Oct 08 05:21 |
| cubexyz | the old commercial games aren't maintained | Oct 08 05:21 |
| cubexyz | they just fall into limbo | Oct 08 05:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: MIT is not great due to the lack of patent coverage. Also in the great fedora license audit a long time ago they found there is over 400+ different ways of writing something that looks like a MIT license. | Oct 08 05:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: lack of standard location for standard form MIT license is a problem as well. | Oct 08 05:26 |
| schestowitz | https://codeberg.org/crimeflare/cloudflare-tor/issues/3#issuecomment-6389 | Oct 08 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-#3 - SUGGESTION: Cloudflare alternatives and readable README - cloudflare-tor - Codeberg.org | Oct 08 05:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 08 05:29 |
| schestowitz | I thought we should reference this article somewhere: | Oct 08 05:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/02/17/the-cloudflare-trap/ | Oct 08 05:29 |
| schestowitz | normally I’d stick it in the rat’s nest of our readme, but since that’s in limbo (under construction) I’ll just make this post so it doesn’t get forgotten. | Oct 08 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t Use Cloudflare Because You Impose This on People Who Least Want It | Techrights | Oct 08 05:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 08 05:29 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, yes it's not ideal | Oct 08 05:29 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 8/10/2019: Intel's Imad Sousou Steps Down and GNU/FSF Debate is Back http://techrights.org/2019/10/08/imad-sousou-steps-down/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/a92dac23-3c28-4c42-b222-7e461959ba91] | Oct 08 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | >>> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181347 | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One year since #torvalds was forced into a "break". It's like he aged 10 years in one year. See http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Linus-Torvalds-2019.jpg and https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_1edcbf56d0a9cf5704de.jpeg | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | >>> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181337 | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | >>> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181319 | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Swapnil also misuses #linux dot com for #openwashing of #facebook (clue: data is not code) https://www.linux.com/news/facebook-open-sources-data-set-for-code-search-ai-benchmark/ see the modus operandi: http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/a-nonprofit-pr-agency/ | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | >>> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16181314 | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | >> Yeah. Some bad shit is happening to Linus there he looks like he has | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Facebook open-sources data set for code search AI benchmark - Linux.com | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> aged way more than 10 years in the last few months. When I saw that | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | >> picture of him with SJVN the other week, I was talking about it here | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Openwashing of VMware, Sponsored by the Linux Foundation (in Turn Sponsored by VMware) | Techrights | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> expressing worry about the effects of the attacks and of him having been | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is Torvalds. In his forties. Not only me thinking he ages fast. See photos here: http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/unhealthy-to-linux/ | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_1edcbf56d0a9cf5704de.jpeg | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> kicked out of his own projerrct. | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > Do we have more photos of him (recent) to rule out the "bad picture" and | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > "he looks older without glasses" (our IRC channel and LWN) crowd? | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > I couldn't find any on the net back then. I spent about 20 minutes | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | LF Kool-Aid is Unhealthy to Linux | Techrights | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | > searching. I tried again just now. LJ had one from this spring but it | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Swapnil has just propped up the #microsoft #zdnet #propaganda of his "mentor" https://www.linux.com/news/linus-torvalds-isnt-worried-about-microsoft-taking-over-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2019/10/05/media-hostile-towards-software-freedom/ | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | > is not from a good angle, though it does show a lot of aging: | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/25-years-later-interview-linus-torvalds | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linus Torvalds isn't worried about Microsoft taking over Linux - Linux.com | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Linus Torvalds (Image Courtesy of Peter Adams, The Faces of Open Source Project)" | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm guessing it might therefore be about 5 years ago, maybe with makeup too for the photoshoot. | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > Back in 2012 he lectured at Aalto (the M$ replacement for HUT) and he | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > still looked very good. However, he did seem to start to put on a lot | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > of weight afterwards. | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Slow Death of Technical Media | Techrights | Oct 08 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | > Again my guess is whatever 'they' did to him n the process of | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > eliminating him from his own project took the stuffing out of him. | Oct 08 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Almost literally, not just FIGURE-atively. | Oct 08 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | 25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds | Linux Journal | Oct 08 07:07 | |
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| schestowitz | > Here's one from a similar angle prior to the attack: | Oct 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.wired.com/story/linuxs-creator-is-sorry-but-will-he-change/ | Oct 08 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux's Creator Is Sorry. But Will He Change? | WIRED | Oct 08 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > However, it is from Getty images and I don't know how to search those | Oct 08 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > and find the actual year it was taken. It was at least a year earlier. | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | That would be an old photo, maybe late 30s. | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | This is me two weeks ago: | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Seafront-Liverpool-and-More | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Not enough sunlight lately; I avoid it after getting burned in 2017. | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Pale: http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/A-Swim-With-Whales/IMG_20170517_074358 | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Burned (less than 2 weeks later): http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Canlaon/20170523_071717 | Oct 08 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Someone in IRC blames lack of sunran for Linus looking so unhealthy.... | Oct 08 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Seafront Liverpool and More | Oct 08 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | PS - I wonder is Swapnil took that latest photo. | Oct 08 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | IMG 20170517 074358 | Oct 08 07:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20170523 071717 | Oct 08 07:13 | |
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| schestowitz | >> Someone in IRC blames lack of sunran for Linus looking so unhealthy.... | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | >> PS - I wonder is Swapnil took that latest photo. | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 08 07:20 |
| MrGreenFriend_ | schestowitz, Aloe Vera is reallly good for sunburn | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | > I have nothing good to say about that weasel. I corresponded with him a | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | > little in 2012, IIRC, but did not trust him. He is helping M$ and | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | > Zemlin intentionally take down Linux (and Linus). | Oct 08 07:20 |
| schestowitz | There's money in that. | Oct 08 07:20 |
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| schestowitz | >>> I have nothing good to say about that weasel. I corresponded with him a | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | >>> little in 2012, IIRC, but did not trust him. He is helping M$ and | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | >>> Zemlin intentionally take down Linux (and Linus). | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | >> There's money in that. | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, but there's also what happened to SJVN. He was the last one at | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > ZDNet worth reading. Fifteen or twenty years ago there were quite a few | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > there, all covering FOSS quite nicely. | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > Also now that M$ Zack guy has spread to other sites. | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Until 2002 0r 2003, BYTE was still around but all the writers there were | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > starting to dabble in or focus on GNU/Linux so CMP bought it and shut it | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > down. | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > I figure that Linus always knew his life was at stake if he even hinted | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > at politics. Now the politics have come to him. To paraphrase RMS, you | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > can ignore the politics but the politics won't ignore you. | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | His father is in politics | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: #NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/ #linux #kernel | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | MrGreenFriend_: I tried it at the time, but the damage had been done | Oct 08 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | Techrights | Oct 08 07:38 | |
| schestowitz | leaving me with some permanent burn freckles | Oct 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Still looking for more sources of FOSS new. Blogs take a lot of time to | Oct 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > survey but they seem to be the last place left. | Oct 08 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, if you search for "Linux" these days you might find more results (in news) about Microsoft than about Linux | Oct 08 07:49 |
| jagadees | some thoughts on Open Source | Oct 08 07:54 |
| jagadees | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/open-source-is-just-oem-software/ | Oct 08 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Open source is just OEM software – neritam | Oct 08 07:54 | |
| schestowitz | thanks | Oct 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | haha, check traffic in a bit.... | Oct 08 07:56 |
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| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/pn8p3z.png | Oct 08 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Impaler | Oct 08 09:15 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/10/linus-torvalds-doesnt-think-microsoft-is-out-to-hijack-linux - I'll believe this at face value as much as any corporate press release. | Oct 08 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linus Torvalds Shares His Thoughts on Microsoft's New-Found Love for Linux - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 08 09:37 | |
| schestowitz | zdnet | Oct 08 09:38 |
| schestowitz | sjvn | Oct 08 09:38 |
| schestowitz | see http://techrights.org/2019/10/05/media-hostile-towards-software-freedom/ | Oct 08 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Slow Death of Technical Media | Techrights | Oct 08 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | they work for zemlin and microsoft | Oct 08 09:38 |
| schestowitz | also, they entrapped in him in breakfast | Oct 08 09:38 |
| schestowitz | asking loaded questions about microsoft | Oct 08 09:38 |
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| XFaCE | How soon before they coax their own version of the "zero-sum game where for Apple to win, Microsoft had to lose" quote? | Oct 08 09:41 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: oh yes, I do recall the wonderful... Journalism of the CBS group. | Oct 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16182951 | Oct 08 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ignore the latest #zdnet BS about #torvalds This #cbs #tabloid is run by people who work for #zemlin and #microsoft They entrapped in him in breakfast, asking loaded questions about Microsoft http://techrights.org/2019/10/05/media-hostile-towards-software-freedom/ | Oct 08 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | I turned that into a little post | Oct 08 09:43 |
| schestowitz | as I suppose some people might fall for that spin | Oct 08 09:43 |
| schestowitz | I responded to SJVN, but won't be checking followups | Oct 08 09:43 |
| XFaCE | Yeah, I just noticed that on the tr link list that the link was posted without comment | Oct 08 09:44 |
| XFaCE | I mean on TR itself | Oct 08 09:44 |
| XFaCE | Usually some sort of ed note would follow | Oct 08 09:44 |
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| XFaCE | So I thought I'd mention my incredulity toward that wonderful pile of clickbait by sjvn | Oct 08 09:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16182991 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How much money has #microsoft sunk(en) into the #microsoftloveslinux #propaganda campaign? Well, we sure known who nets that money (Microsoft budget/slush funds) http://techrights.org/2019/10/05/media-hostile-towards-software-freedom/ #cbs #zdnet #zemlinpac | Oct 08 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16182997 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zemlinpac #openwashing is a for-profit business. You pay #zemlin "and the boys" to call you, a serial #gpl violator, "open source company"... http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/a-nonprofit-pr-agency/ | Oct 08 09:48 | |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: fossforce complained about the "Ed" | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | So I mostly dropped it | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | I guess that says something about fosdforce, but hey... | Oct 08 09:49 |
| XFaCE | Gotcha | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | I suppose people are smart enough to just see what zdnet is | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | without me having to say much | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | and it also makes torvalds look foolish, gullible, sold out | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: did you see his photo? | Oct 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | he looks like 55, he's 49 | Oct 08 09:50 |
| schestowitz | like he aged 10 years in the past years | Oct 08 09:50 |
| XFaCE | Yeah... Also when one has a family, priorities shift understandably | Oct 08 09:50 |
| XFaCE | So it can be easy to see why he "caved" as he did | Oct 08 09:51 |
| XFaCE | Especially when you consider the level of players at stake, who seem to have a knack of taking advantage of such situations... Manipulating the good nature of people | Oct 08 09:53 |
| XFaCE | I should note that the poor reputation of the CBS group is spreading... Though because of the obvious ad-like quality that the media companies they own cover their entertainment offerings. | Oct 08 09:55 |
| XFaCE | Their streaming service shows etc. | Oct 08 09:55 |
| XFaCE | You can see how that is a more "general public" point of criticism, entertainment vs the more "niche" topic of open source | Oct 08 09:57 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: correct me if I'm wrong, but Microsoft still has patent suits going regarding free software? | Oct 08 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | yes, hang on | Oct 08 10:03 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/ | Oct 08 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Complaining About Android and Chrome OS (GNU/Linux) Vendor Not Paying for Microsoft Patents (Updated) | Techrights | Oct 08 10:03 | |
| schestowitz | SJVN has made excuses for #microsoft suing #foxconn over #linux (basically deflecting and blaming Foxconn). I think we have a defector in the house. | Oct 08 10:03 |
| XFaCE | BTW, did you see the video where Greg K-H says Microsoft distributed Linux more than other companies? | Oct 08 10:07 |
| XFaCE | (Or something to that extent) | Oct 08 10:07 |
| XFaCE | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJw7Y6qaHA | Oct 08 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Should We Trust Microsoft With Linux? - YouTube | Oct 08 10:10 | |
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| schestowitz | Greg being Greg | Oct 08 10:12 |
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| schestowitz | but Torvalds is being waterboarded with Kool-Aid | Oct 08 10:12 |
| XFaCE | Is he though? Or is it an HR ultimatum? | Oct 08 10:15 |
| XFaCE | ...or is that what you meant? | Oct 08 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds is being reprimanded for not following the employer's party line, with large customers such as Microsoft | Oct 08 10:17 |
| XFaCE | Yes | Oct 08 10:19 |
| XFaCE | Then we are on the same conclusion | Oct 08 10:19 |
| schestowitz | Greg K-H, who comes from #Novell to the Microsoft/Linux Foundation, does not speak of how #microsoft blackmailed #linux more than any other company and is still doing it this year http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/ | Oct 08 10:22 |
| XFaCE | Isn't greg k-h also a systemd enabler? | Oct 08 10:24 |
| schestowitz | kdbus | Oct 08 10:26 |
| schestowitz | look it up | Oct 08 10:26 |
| schestowitz | it's a route towards it | Oct 08 10:26 |
| XFaCE | Thx | Oct 08 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the successor to Torvalds is not Greg G-H but LP, whom #IBM has been 'grooming' under #RedHat umbrella for a decade | Oct 08 10:29 |
| XFaCE | Looks horrifying... What the kernel needs, a giant attack vector | Oct 08 10:29 |
| schestowitz | yup | Oct 08 10:30 |
| schestowitz | one major blob | Oct 08 10:30 |
| XFaCE | He seems to fit the HR requirements | Oct 08 10:30 |
| Polar_Bear | Anyone else worry what happens when these guys retire or die? | Oct 08 10:30 |
| XFaCE | (Lennart) | Oct 08 10:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16183263 | Oct 08 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Maybe the successor to Torvalds is not Greg G-H but LP, whom #IBM has been 'grooming' under #RedHat umbrella for a decade #systemd #kernel #kdbus | Oct 08 10:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16183276 | Oct 08 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #systemd = one major 'blob' (OSPS), few companies involved, no community, no way for individual developers to get >meaningfully< involved. System wide shut. Hosted by #microsoft #github | Oct 08 10:31 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: in an ideal world, Theodore T'so would be the successor | Oct 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | No, no... | Oct 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | REMEMBER | Oct 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | he's a "rape apologist" | Oct 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | According to Sage Sharp | Oct 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | So he's being rendered unprofessional and ineligible. | Oct 08 10:33 |
| XFaCE | My bad, I will correct my wrongthink. | Oct 08 10:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/ | Oct 08 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | Techrights | Oct 08 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | see this debate | Oct 08 10:34 |
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| XFaCE | I see Greg k-h is given a pass... Funny how that works | Oct 08 10:35 |
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| XFaCE | I guess that is a privilege for saying the right corporate speak | Oct 08 10:38 |
| schestowitz | yup | Oct 08 10:47 |
| schestowitz | f em | Oct 08 10:47 |
| XFaCE | I was reading a old 2012 TR article and "twitter" was in the comments... What happened to him? | Oct 08 10:48 |
| schestowitz | he's in diaspora | Oct 08 10:49 |
| schestowitz | we also chat over email, he's ok | Oct 08 10:49 |
| XFaCE | Good | Oct 08 10:49 |
| schestowitz | wife and daughter, works in med | Oct 08 10:49 |
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| XFaCE | Nice | Oct 08 10:53 |
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| schestowitz | razielle_tzu: have you heard from seb? | Oct 08 12:17 |
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| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Oct 08 12:58 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 08 12:58 | |
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| r_schestowitz | hi a1batross | Oct 08 13:53 |
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| cubexyz | 50 years and counting if you go all the way back to UNICS for PDP-7 | Oct 08 14:10 |
| cubexyz | Unix v1 for PDP-11/20 was released in 1971 | Oct 08 14:10 |
| r_schestowitz | well... | Oct 08 14:10 |
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| cubexyz | there's a project to get Unix v0 actually running again | Oct 08 14:23 |
| cubexyz | evidently the oldest notes survived as photocopies | Oct 08 14:23 |
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| MinceR | 08 113030 < Polar_Bear> Anyone else worry what happens when these guys retire or die? | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | seems to me the damage has already been done | Oct 08 14:53 |
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| psydroid | with all the talk about traditional tech media dying I happened to come across an article on a much newer tech website and its coverage seems to be much more balanced | Oct 08 14:59 |
| psydroid | of course when I mentioned it on an article about recent Intel and AMD news people started questioning things, as if changes can't happen anymore | Oct 08 14:59 |
| psydroid | https://diginomica.com/huawei-connect-showing-building-blocks-make-ai-working-reality | Oct 08 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diginomica.com | Huawei Connect - showing off the building blocks to make AI a working reality | Oct 08 14:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | hey hi | Oct 08 14:59 |
| r_schestowitz | "ai" | Oct 08 14:59 |
| psydroid | https://diginomica.com/about | Oct 08 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diginomica.com | About | Oct 08 14:59 | |
| psydroid | https://diginomica.com/about/ethics | Oct 08 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diginomica.com | Ethics | Oct 08 15:00 | |
| psydroid | so I think M$ knows the truth is out there, but they want to keep it out of the limelight and pretend things are just fine, while sucking as many people as possible into that bubble | Oct 08 15:00 |
| psydroid | yes, it's a buzzword | Oct 08 15:00 |
| psydroid | hi, btw | Oct 08 15:00 |
| r_schestowitz | hi stands for intelligence | Oct 08 15:01 |
| r_schestowitz | hey stands for artificial | Oct 08 15:01 |
| r_schestowitz | so hey hi to you too | Oct 08 15:01 |
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| r_schestowitz | hey hi is old school anyway | Oct 08 15:02 |
| r_schestowitz | smart hey ai is better, like "hybridcloud". "multicloud" and "nativeclou' | Oct 08 15:02 |
| r_schestowitz | gotta keep up with the time, chasing rainbows ans buzzwords | Oct 08 15:03 |
| psydroid | I feel I'm out of the loop here, maybe I should read more tech "media" | Oct 08 15:05 |
| r_schestowitz | apparently they call me names | Oct 08 15:05 |
| r_schestowitz | they call my job DevSecOp | Oct 08 15:05 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't even know! | Oct 08 15:05 |
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| a1batross | r_schestowitz: hi :) | Oct 08 15:21 |
| r_schestowitz | new here? | Oct 08 15:21 |
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| psydroid | that's better than calling everyone an engineer! | Oct 08 15:22 |
| a1batross | Was invited by XRevan86. Just readonly. :) | Oct 08 15:22 |
| a1batross | You guys are interesting. :) | Oct 08 15:22 |
| r_schestowitz | ah, ok, I'll keep quiet then | Oct 08 15:22 |
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| XRevan86 | https://pleroma.site/objects/9197273b-3ee9-48ea-aa68-2d100da8751d | Oct 08 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Oct 08 18:20 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: About that… what moderation decisions do you feel schestowitz will be uncomfortable with? | Oct 08 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | I haven't seen him ever complain. | Oct 08 18:21 |
| kaniini | I'm planning to take a more aggressive stance toward blocking altright | Oct 08 18:22 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> Still looking for more sources of FOSS new. Blogs take a lot of time to | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> survey but they seem to be the last place left. | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | >> Yes, if you search for "Linux" these days you might find more results | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | >> (in news) about Microsoft than about Linux | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | > 1. There is little to no FOSS coverage for a long while now | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | > 2. Open Source coverage is usually now 'open-source' aka openwashing | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | > 3. Pretty much *ALL* linux news is actually M$ marketing just mislabeled | Oct 08 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | > By the way I tried to do a known-item search for a page that used to | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | > list all the companies doublecrossed and backstabbed by M$. I have not | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | > been able to find it. There were quite a few that were completely | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | > killed off and many that permanently crippled. | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | (1-3) above is currently correct, but (3) just partly. And it's sort of on and off when Microsoft decides to do another googlebombing wave, e.g. to promote Teams, Edge... | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:20] <XRevan86> kaniini: About that… what moderation decisions do you feel schestowitz will be uncomfortable with? | Oct 08 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: That can mean different things… | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | recently I've been getting no disgusting replies | Oct 08 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | (compared to months ago) | Oct 08 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I've seen zlaxy has been commenting your notices. | Oct 08 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | more instances = more federation, decentralisation | Oct 08 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/search?query=zlaxy | Oct 08 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Oct 08 18:29 | |
| r_schestowitz | I don't think I see replies from that account tbh | Oct 08 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | if that's the one you mean, no posts shown since 4 months ago | Oct 08 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | Also known as zlax | Oct 08 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | zlaxy@social.tchncs.de | Oct 08 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | 4mo | Oct 08 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | kaniini can censor, but depends how | Oct 08 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | imho, for me and for techrights, it's about violence only | Oct 08 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | or threats to do things, e.g. a form a blackmail (call the employer etc.) | Oct 08 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | we had such an issue 11 years ago | Oct 08 18:32 |
| kaniini | well that is basically what I want to be aggressive towards blocking | Oct 08 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | one person who followed tuxmachines in gab ended up shooting a dozen people | Oct 08 18:32 |
| kaniini | as for moving techrights to it's own instance, the main reason there is simply that half the posts on the public timeline is techrights related | Oct 08 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Don't tell him I gave you a pointer %). I \kind of\ know him. | Oct 08 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | gab is full of these derelicts | Oct 08 18:32 |
| kaniini | so I think it may make sense to have a techrights instance | Oct 08 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | sounds good is the followers and all can shift seamlessly (I'm no fediverse expert) | Oct 08 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | When Ash Farrow kicked me out without notice I lost over a thousand followers, I think 1400 | Oct 08 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: He's anti-authoritatian to a point where he believes almost every conspiracy theory. Needless to say, anti-vaxx. | Oct 08 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | they can be ignored | Oct 08 18:34 |
| kaniini | yeah I dont want to disrupt anything :) | Oct 08 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | diaspora trolls like these get ignored until they get bored and find something else to do | Oct 08 18:34 |
| kaniini | I also am tired of using the pleroma.site domain anymore | Oct 08 18:35 |
| kaniini | because of a few reasons | Oct 08 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Too generic? | Oct 08 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | makes it sound centralised | Oct 08 18:35 |
| kaniini | yes | Oct 08 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: yes | Oct 08 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | like MINDS | Oct 08 18:35 |
| kaniini | so my plan was to run it for another 2 years | Oct 08 18:36 |
| kaniini | and have an alternate instance in parallel | Oct 08 18:36 |
| r_schestowitz | gab was also centralised until they figured out they only listened to other radicals and making only one another radicalised | Oct 08 18:36 |
| kaniini | that way people can migrate away from it at their own leisure | Oct 08 18:36 |
| r_schestowitz | if followers can be 'forwarded' | Oct 08 18:37 |
| kaniini | (the other problem is that decisions I make with it sometimes get attributed to the project) | Oct 08 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: You could write "unofficial" somewhere in the title. | Oct 08 18:37 |
| *r_schestowitz remembers being very young, thinking DALNet WAS IRC | Oct 08 18:37 | |
| XRevan86 | Why is no one thinking mastodon.ml or mastodon.technology are official? %) | Oct 08 18:38 |
| kaniini | those instances are also not run by a Pleroma developer | Oct 08 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | or any other mastodon.tld except mastosoc | Oct 08 18:38 |
| kaniini | anyway it's just a pastiche domain | Oct 08 18:38 |
| r_schestowitz | https://the-federation.info/ | Oct 08 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub | Oct 08 18:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | wow, pleroma ranked 3 for # of instances | Oct 08 18:39 |
| r_schestowitz | and before even v 1.0.0 (I think) | Oct 08 18:39 |
| r_schestowitz | 27,554 users? | Oct 08 18:40 |
| kaniini | it is not that bad considering there is no marketing yet | Oct 08 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | Used to be second, no? | Oct 08 18:40 |
| kaniini | it is second in the AP network | Oct 08 18:40 |
| kaniini | the-federation.info includes diaspora | Oct 08 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, I noticed | Oct 08 18:40 |
| kaniini | and matrix | Oct 08 18:41 |
| kaniini | for some reason | Oct 08 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, it considers non-fediverse projects. | Oct 08 18:41 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe one day they'll link | Oct 08 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | Where are XMPP and email? | Oct 08 18:41 |
| kaniini | anyway i basically want to go after nazis and concern trolls without concern of reprisal | Oct 08 18:42 |
| kaniini | ban them all | Oct 08 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, there actually is XMPP, but it only knows three servers. | Oct 08 18:42 |
| kaniini | i also want to offer other services besides just pleroma | Oct 08 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | One of them loadaverage.org o_O | Oct 08 18:43 |
| kaniini | gnu social does xmpp | Oct 08 18:43 |
| kaniini | didnt you know | Oct 08 18:43 |
| kaniini | you work on it | Oct 08 18:43 |
| kaniini | :) | Oct 08 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I know, I host ejabberd there for the bot. | Oct 08 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: But it's kind of random %). | Oct 08 18:44 |
| kaniini | no i mean | Oct 08 18:44 |
| kaniini | gnu social literally has | Oct 08 18:44 |
| kaniini | an xmpp server inside it | Oct 08 18:44 |
| kaniini | it is very limited though | Oct 08 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Okay, that's news %) | Oct 08 18:45 |
| kaniini | you can connect an xmpp client and post with it | Oct 08 18:46 |
| kaniini | when i ran gnu social i used to do that | Oct 08 18:46 |
| kaniini | but that was a loooooooooooong time ago | Oct 08 18:46 |
| kaniini | these days i rather not have my servers compromised | Oct 08 18:46 |
| kaniini | so i dont run anything PHP :D | Oct 08 18:46 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I cannot find any indication of a built-in XMPP server. | Oct 08 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | I guessed that maybe XMPPHP implements something weird, but nop | Oct 08 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: That's… linguist :D | Oct 08 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | proglinguist | Oct 08 18:50 |
| kaniini | plugins/Xmpp/XmppPlugin.php no? | Oct 08 18:52 |
| kaniini | maybe its not a server | Oct 08 18:52 |
| kaniini | i forget how it works | Oct 08 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: It's a mere bot. | Oct 08 18:52 |
| kaniini | its ok | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | there is now | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | ephp for erlang/otp | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | soon pleroma will support gnu social plugins | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | hahaha just kidding | Oct 08 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: The what now | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | oh man | Oct 08 18:53 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: https://github.com/bragful/ephp | Oct 08 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - bragful/ephp: Bragful core: PHP Interpreter in pure Erlang | Oct 08 18:54 | |
| kaniini | XRevan86: this is so wrong | Oct 08 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | What are the goals… | Oct 08 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | > This interpreter was made for enhance and give flexibility to projects that require an interface for plugins or addons without new compilations. | Oct 08 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I now wonder how they approach integrating one into another | Oct 08 18:55 |
| kaniini | anyway | Oct 08 18:56 |
| XRevan86 | anyway, just use lua if you need scripting | Oct 08 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe python | Oct 08 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I agree that PHP has nothing to offer here. | Oct 08 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | Except playing Frankenstein with one's project. | Oct 08 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | Half-Erlang, half-PHP, it's alive! | Oct 08 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | According to the README, this is exactly what the author wanted :) | Oct 08 19:09 |
| kaniini | it's terrifying isn't it | Oct 08 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I mean, it could be a decent alternative implementation for the interpreter. But its main intended usage is close | Oct 08 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | Except that it seemingly doesn't support mainline PHP modules and apparently doesn't work with raw .php files at all. | Oct 08 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | s/decent // | Oct 08 19:18 |
| MinceR | lol @ php | Oct 08 19:29 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/01/9ddf95cd55ba5d25.jpg | Oct 08 21:04 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/8e7445d1ffc5c16c.jpg | Oct 08 21:13 |
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| chomwitt | what libreplanet ? | Oct 08 21:32 |
| chomwitt | they dump rms so easily... impressive and frightening | Oct 08 21:33 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/01/7edd4a85b7926e84.jpg | Oct 08 22:15 |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/222 | Oct 08 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Escape from Plato's Cave - Existential Comics | Oct 08 22:55 | |
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| Tom-_ | that cave metaphor applies to talking people into Linux too | Oct 08 23:53 |
| Tom-_ | here's the cave metaphor in webcomi form from a different author http://www.tailsteak.com/archive.php?num=32 | Oct 08 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tailsteak.com | Archive | Oct 08 23:59 | |
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