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| XRevan86 | reptilian_thrills: https://youtu.be/kOzEZZDg3NI?t=749 | Nov 08 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | NO TITLE | Nov 08 00:25 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/11/04/funny-bad-science-jokes-memes/ | Nov 08 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 30 Bad, Yet Funny Science Jokes For All The Nerds Out There | Nov 08 00:32 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: 9's funny, 16's obsolete, 18's not nearly as dramatic as a lightbulb, 29's Prisoner's Dilemma, naughty. | Nov 08 00:49 |
| MinceR | i don't see how 16 is obsolete | Nov 08 00:55 |
| MinceR | lightbulb is old hat | Nov 08 00:55 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Machine learning forces captcha to get even more complicated. | Nov 08 01:22 |
| MinceR | some stuff still gives me exactly that kind of captcha | Nov 08 01:22 |
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| reptilian_thrills | captchas are the webs way of telling you the web is a piece of shit | Nov 08 01:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | sort of like if youre trying to date a woman and shes wearing a button that says "i love male tears" | Nov 08 01:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | it doesnt matter if youre a lesbian, shes a dick | Nov 08 01:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | captchas are like that | Nov 08 01:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre the red hair on a radical feminist of the internet | Nov 08 01:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | (dyed red, not ginger) | Nov 08 01:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | i went through trying to sign up for a blog recently | Nov 08 01:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | i tried wordpress, then i rememmbered word press just fails to load now | Nov 08 01:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | like you go to edit a page (after signing in) and its blank | Nov 08 01:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | so you restart the browser and only sometimes it works | Nov 08 01:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | what the fuck is that | Nov 08 01:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | 1. why would restarting the browser help | Nov 08 01:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | 2. why wouldnt it help reliably | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | wordpress is destroyed, trash, useless | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i tried to sign up a few places | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | most didnt work. why? the web is trash | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | thanks for destroying it, tim | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | good job | Nov 08 01:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | knighthoods should come in suppository form | Nov 08 01:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | the web has gone systemd | Nov 08 01:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | i like websites that work reliably | Nov 08 01:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | even tr, lol, i wont say what laughable problem it has | Nov 08 01:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | ariadne probably knows, its not a security issue, she wouldnt care | Nov 08 01:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its got issues too | Nov 08 01:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | if they bothered her or roy one of them would have it fixed | Nov 08 01:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | like i said, its not a security issue, its a usability issue | Nov 08 01:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | and its not the silly cert thing. i dont care about that more than roy does (not in this instance) | Nov 08 01:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | the web was cool in the 90s, so was the linux kernel | Nov 08 01:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | the linux kernel isnt modern | Nov 08 01:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | reliable kernels should be in a reliable museum | Nov 08 01:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | linus should be in an idiot douchebag museum | Nov 08 01:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | next to tim berners-lee | Nov 08 01:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | next to the guys that made the last several captchas | Nov 08 01:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | next to trump, just so you know which museum it is | Nov 08 01:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | im not saying biden is a significant improvement. if he was, he wouldnt have gotten elected | Nov 08 01:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually they already have an idiot douchebag museum, its called the senate | Nov 08 01:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | so just make timbl a senator along with linus | Nov 08 01:45 |
| AdmFubar1 | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/11/07/twitter_recalls_staff/ | Nov 08 01:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | voila | Nov 08 01:45 |
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| *schestowitz[TR] back | Nov 08 03:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <AdmFubar1> https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/11/07/twitter_recalls_staff/ | Nov 08 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> voila | Nov 08 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theregister.com | Twitter asks staff to come back after 'accidental' layoff • The Registe | Nov 08 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Andrew Lee!! | Nov 08 03:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 03:28 |
| techrights-news | "The second-largest funder is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which provides 9.8% of the WHO's funds" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/08/social-control-media-censorship-and-who/ | Nov 08 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Social Control Media Censorship and WHO | Nov 08 03:33 | |
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| techrights-news | Coburg, Prince Alfred and Queen Victoria in more detail ⚓ https://danielpocock.com/coburg-alfred-victoria/ ䷉ Source: Daniel Pocock | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//danielpocock.com/coburg-alfred-victoria/ | Nov 08 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Coburg, Prince Alfred and Queen Victoria in more detail | Nov 08 03:35 | |
| techrights-news | Listening devices inside the kitchen https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/amazon-echo-show-15-smart-display/ | Nov 08 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $80 on an Amazon Echo Show 15 Smart Display - Make Tech Easier | Nov 08 03:35 | |
| techrights-news | Firewalld in Examples: A Complete Beginner’s Guide ⚓ https://linuxiac.com/firewalld-in-examples/ ䷉ Source: Linuxiac | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxiac.com/firewalld-in-examples/ | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Firewalld in Examples: A Complete Beginner’s Guide | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft boosters googlebomb 'Linux' again to promote proprietary spyware ("Teams") | Nov 08 03:39 |
| techrights-news | Social Control Media Censorship and WHO https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/08/social-control-media-censorship-and-who/ | Nov 08 03:43 |
| techrights-news | Today (Tuesday) we shall see how many deaths in the UK we have for the week and how those compare to pre-COVID levels. Each week it has been getting a lot worse lately. | Nov 08 03:44 |
| techrights-news | SUSE promoting proprietary SAP and clown computing (surveillance, rental rather than control) https://www.suse.com/c/say-goodbye-to-downtime-for-your-sap-landscape-on-aws/ | Nov 08 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Say Goodbye to Downtime for Your SAP Landscape on AWS | SUSE Communities | Nov 08 03:46 | |
| techrights-news | Native Messaging Support Arrives in Stable Version of Firefox Snap - OMG! Ubuntu! ⚓ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/11/firefox-snap-native-messaging-take-two ䷉ Source: OMG Ubuntu | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/11/firefox-snap-native-messaging-take-two | Nov 08 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Native Messaging Support Arrives in Stable Version of Firefox Snap - OMG! Ubuntu! | Nov 08 03:47 | |
| techrights-news | Mozilla: "if you have any suggestions for improvements, please open an issue." POINTS TO PROPRIETARY MICROSOFT!!! Shame on Mozilla. ䷉ Source: Mozilla | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/11/07/understanding-performance-impact/ | Nov 08 03:48 |
| MinceR | they don't care about improvements anyway | Nov 08 03:48 |
| MinceR | they started down the way in the opposite direction long ago | Nov 08 03:49 |
| techrights-news | Mozilla uses to be competent enough to know something about Web autonomy. It used bugzilla and didn't outsource to proprietary Microsoft prisons. | Nov 08 03:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: years | Nov 08 03:49 |
| techrights-news | Strange Bedfellows: Why Advocates From Across the Spectrum Still Oppose the JCPA - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/strange-bedfellows-why-advocates-still-oppose-the-jcpa/ ䷉ Source: Public Knowledge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/strange-bedfellows-why-advocates-still-oppose-the-jcpa/ | Nov 08 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Strange Bedfellows: Why Advocates From Across the Spectrum Still Oppose the JCPA - Public Knowledge | Nov 08 03:50 | |
| techrights-news | "The twenty-third edition will take place Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th February 2023 in Brussels, Belgium." http://www.laura.community/2022/11/07/fosdem-2023-in-person-community-devroom-call-for-participation/ | Nov 08 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laura.community | FOSDEM 2023 In Person – Community DevRoom Call for Participation! | Laura's Blog | Nov 08 03:52 | |
| techrights-news | Michael Larabel once again shilling Clear Linux, which nobody uses. The only sites covering Clear Linux are PAID BY INTEL. | Nov 08 03:53 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): The First Official Ubuntu Unity Flavor Release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/The_First_Official_Ubuntu_Unity_Flavor_Release.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/The_First_Official_Ubuntu_Unity_Flavor_Release.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — The First Official Ubuntu Unity Flavor Release | Nov 08 03:58 | |
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| techrights-news | LibreOffice Conference 2022: Impressions from an attendee (and speaker!) https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/11/07/libreoffice-conference-2022-impressions-from-an-attendee-and-speaker/ | Nov 08 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | LibreOffice Conference 2022: Impressions from an attendee (and speaker!) - The Document Foundation Blog | Nov 08 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Crosswords 0.3.6: 'The Man from G.N.O.M.E' ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Crosswords_0_3_6_The_Man_from_G_N_O_M_E.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Crosswords_0_3_6_The_Man_from_G_N_O_M_E.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Crosswords 0.3.6: 'The Man from G.N.O.M.E' | Nov 08 04:04 | |
| techrights-news | Car Free Lifestyle gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-11-07-carfree.gmi | Nov 08 04:04 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D406.jpg | Nov 08 04:05 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D748.jpg | Nov 08 04:05 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, November 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Nov 08 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Nov 08 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Nov 08 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Nov 08 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | Star Log 2022-11-05 Evening (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221107-0.gmi | Nov 08 04:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me shows mincer a future that sucks less that still has humans in it | Nov 08 04:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted its like 200 years from now | Nov 08 04:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me hopes it doesnt take that long | Nov 08 04:08 |
| techrights-news | "On Twitter, an ex-Twitter engineer called Steve Krenzel talk about his job and we can infer that it’s not different from Google/Facebook/Microsoft." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-11-07-software-engineers-responsibility.gmi | Nov 08 04:08 |
| techrights-news | Run gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/11/07-run.gmi | Nov 08 04:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | it doesnt bother me when people hope for a better future. youre supposed to do that | Nov 08 04:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | what gets me is when people pretend things dont suck now | Nov 08 04:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | like, how? | Nov 08 04:09 |
| techrights-news | Enjoying Hummel 🎼🎹♫ gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-11-07_Enjoying_Hummel.gmi | Nov 08 04:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not going to get better if everyone pretends everythings fine | Nov 08 04:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean theyre siding with kanye on reality. how can that be a winning move | Nov 08 04:10 |
| techrights-news | Music recommendations (and how I generated them) gemini://rulmer.xyz/songmem.gmi | Nov 08 04:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | people who think everythings fine should have to wear those crazy $600 shoes | Nov 08 04:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me would wear the cheap knockoffs though | Nov 08 04:11 |
| techrights-news | "As software engineers, we have a huge moral responsibility. We are not only implementing it, we are ourselves using those tools and letting our family and children using them." gemini://ploum.be/2022-11-07-software-engineers-responsibility.gmi | Nov 08 04:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | partly because they piss kanye off | Nov 08 04:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | also because i think its hilarious that he made $600 crocs basically | Nov 08 04:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | "we need to put crocs and jordans in the fly chamber and see what happens" | Nov 08 04:12 |
| techrights-news | Persistence of Memory gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-07.memory.gmi | Nov 08 04:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | *50 million dollars later* holy shit what | Nov 08 04:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | dont blame me i was high as fuck | Nov 08 04:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | elon: "i like them" | Nov 08 04:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | "we need to put crocs and jordans in the fly chamber and see what happens" <- this also explains the tech industry in a way | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't quite follow the latest, but | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | seems we have a deja vu: | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | musk: i want to buy twitter | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i don't want to buy twitter | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they are suing me | Nov 08 04:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe there are two musks | Nov 08 04:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | like in fight club | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I might get subpoenaed | Nov 08 04:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | and one is tyler durden | Nov 08 04:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | f*ck it, I will need to buy this boyt farm after all | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | musk: i will sakc 75% fo staff | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | staff sues | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ok, f*ck it, come back people | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I "accidentally" fired you | Nov 08 04:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think there are two elon musks | Nov 08 04:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | and other one is trying to kill him | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | either way, it's killing the company | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it kills him financial stake's worth | Nov 08 04:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | you make it sound like a bad thing | Nov 08 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he bought himmself a bot farm | Nov 08 04:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | clerks covered this... in clerks | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 13 BILLION in company debt | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and staff he says he does not need and yet MUST pay | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so the price was wrong | Nov 08 04:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | boyt farm is going to be the next boy band, but instead of autotune its 100% hey hi | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and the products was a botfarm | Nov 08 04:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | no human vocals at all | Nov 08 04:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | just vocoders | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | HEY HI like "Tay" | Nov 08 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from Microsoft | Nov 08 04:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the "racist" HEY HI | Nov 08 04:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | clippy on twitter | Nov 08 04:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | racist because they gave it nothing but ibm memos from the 1930s | Nov 08 04:16 |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation has been very very very very quiet lately. Weird. | Nov 08 04:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | "hey it looks like youre a welfare queen trying to get pregnant so you can apply for more money, can i help?" | Nov 08 04:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | goddamnit tay, there are enough of you on faux news | Nov 08 04:17 |
| techrights-news | Mashing Up CXL And OpenCAPI For Shared Disaggregated Memory ⚓ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/11/07/mashing-up-cxl-and-opencapi-for-shared-disaggregated-memory/ ䷉ Source: The Next Platform | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/11/07/mashing-up-cxl-and-opencapi-for-shared-disaggregated-memory/ | Nov 08 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Mashing Up CXL And OpenCAPI For Shared Disaggregated Memory | Nov 08 04:17 | |
| reptilian_thrills | clerks covered this... in clerks <- basically if youre at twitter or facebook | Nov 08 04:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | youre working on the death star | Nov 08 04:18 |
| techrights-news | "ransomware incident" = probably Microsoft Windows https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/medibank-refuses-to-pay-ransom-after-97.html | Nov 08 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Medibank Refuses to Pay Ransom After 9.7 Million Customers Exposed in Ransomware Hack | Nov 08 04:18 | |
| reptilian_thrills | if the rebels, yknow... too bad | Nov 08 04:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | if musk buys the death star and it collapses out of some kind of death star suicide | Nov 08 04:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats like too bad | Nov 08 04:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted, im totally in favour of programs that help people who are leaving twitter in droves | Nov 08 04:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 04:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | but im not in favour of propping up twitter because if feel bad for the people there | Nov 08 04:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont | Nov 08 04:20 |
| techrights-news | "The operator of a ransomware blog, which was formerly used by the REvil gang, claims that data from Australia's Medibank Group will be posted on the dark web in 24 hours." https://itwire.com/security/ransomware-group-threatens-to-post-medibank-data-on-dark-web.html | Nov 08 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Ransomware group threatens to post Medibank data on dark web | Nov 08 04:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Data leaks are extremely prominent in the cyber world due to lack of proper or adequate security implementation. Securing databases is an essential practice to ensure that consequences such as data loss to even unauthorized access or system downtime is avoided." https://linuxsecurity.com/features/linux-database-security-tips | Nov 08 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Database Security Tips | LinuxSecurity.com | Nov 08 04:22 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: musk is dying | Nov 08 04:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I saw him before the hair plugs | Nov 08 04:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he's a death STAR | Nov 08 04:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-r5ULxo4WD0 | Nov 08 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | [MV] Apink(에이핑크) _ Cause you're my star(별의 별) - Invidious | Nov 08 04:24 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> reptilian_thrills: musk is dying <- you realise this meme is intended to mock you though | Nov 08 04:24 |
| techrights-news | No more updates for nodejs14, below in Leap 15.4 - openSUSE News ⚓ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/11/07/nodejs14-eol-leap/ ䷉ Source: Yahoo News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.opensuse.org/2022/11/07/nodejs14-eol-leap/ | Nov 08 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | No more updates for nodejs14, below in Leap 15.4 - openSUSE News | Nov 08 04:24 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean its a pretty laughable bias | Nov 08 04:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | everyone is dying | Nov 08 04:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | "things i hate are dying, things i like are going to be fine no matter how long theyve been dying" | Nov 08 04:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just depends how quickly | Nov 08 04:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | perhaps | Nov 08 04:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe everything is immortal and respawns in a parallel dimension | Nov 08 04:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | we dont really know | Nov 08 04:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | from the perspective of this corner of the cosmos youre probably right. maybe. | Nov 08 04:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe everything is immortal and respawns in a parallel dimension <- hopefully not github and twitter | Nov 08 04:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | id really like those to stay dead | Nov 08 04:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "It's dead, Jim" < that's what she said | Nov 08 04:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Alexa, order my husband more viagra" | Nov 08 04:28 |
| techrights-news | Usama Jawad the latest Microsoft booster to googlebomb "Linux" to promote malware of Microsoft. Also uses a banner that says Microsoft LOVES... what it is ATTACKING | Nov 08 04:33 |
| techrights-news | Debian messing about with its site's 'blog' tonight, but it's not clear what they changed, only that things changed. Needs some further probing. | Nov 08 04:35 |
| techrights-news | US makes biggest bitcoin seizure from man who stole from Silk Road https://itwire.com/security/us-makes-biggest-bitcoin-seizure-from-man-who-stole-from-silk-road.html | Nov 08 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - US makes biggest bitcoin seizure from man who stole from Silk Road | Nov 08 04:35 | |
| techrights-news | "5G" hype/bullshit/spam https://itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/auckland-university-business-school-opens-5g-powered-tech-hub.html | Nov 08 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Auckland University Business School opens 5G-powered tech hub | Nov 08 04:36 | |
| techrights-news | Obligatory marketing spam will ruin what's left of itwire | Nov 08 04:36 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GStreamer 1.21.2 unstable development release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/GStreamer_1_21_2_unstable_development_release.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/GStreamer_1_21_2_unstable_development_release.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — GStreamer 1.21.2 unstable development release | Nov 08 04:38 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Nov 08 04:38 | |
| techrights-news | "T-Head Semiconductor mentioned that the XuanTie C908 is offered in two architectures: RV32GCB[V] (32-bit) and RV64GCB[V] (64-bit). Moreover, the C908’s performance vs cost is in between the C910 and the C906 processors. The company expects the C908 to target image and video processing applications." https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-news-from-t-head-semiconductor-and-sifive/ | Nov 08 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-news-from-t-head-semiconductor-and-sifive/ ) | Nov 08 04:39 | |
| psydruid | "Also, its dynamic power consumption was estimated to be 52.8 mW/GHz per core." | Nov 08 04:46 |
| psydruid | this is very low, so ideal for a desktop or laptop | Nov 08 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it won't run on AAA batteries ;-) | Nov 08 04:48 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security and Breaches ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Security_and_Breaches.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Security_and_Breaches.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security and Breaches | Nov 08 04:49 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Events: LibreOffice Conference 2022 and FOSDEM 2023 In Person ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Events_LibreOffice_Conference_2022_and_FOSDEM_2023_In_Person.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Events_LibreOffice_Conference_2022_and_FOSDEM_2023_In_Person.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Events: LibreOffice Conference 2022 and FOSDEM 2023 In Person | Nov 08 04:49 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Understanding Performance Impact in Firefox and Native Messaging Support ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Understanding_Performance_Impact_in_Firefox_and_Native_Messagin.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Understanding_Performance_Impact_in_Firefox_and_Native_Messagin.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Understanding Performance Impact in Firefox and Native Messaging Support | Nov 08 04:51 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Cryptocurrency Wallets for Ubuntu and Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Best_Cryptocurrency_Wallets_for_Ubuntu_and_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Best_Cryptocurrency_Wallets_for_Ubuntu_and_Linux.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Best Cryptocurrency Wallets for Ubuntu and Linux | Nov 08 04:52 | |
| reptilian_thrills | so it won't run on AAA batteries <- how many | Nov 08 04:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | you can connect aaa in both parallel and serial | Nov 08 04:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some old portable TVs used batteries | Nov 08 04:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but much bigger ones | Nov 08 04:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | parallel increases amperage and serial increases voltage | Nov 08 04:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and bulky, in bulk | Nov 08 04:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | a 9v battery like the one that is low enough to constantly beep in your videos actually has 6 1.5 v cells inside it | Nov 08 04:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | 1.5 * 6 = 9 (1.5v is the typical voltage of the most conventional battery cells) | Nov 08 04:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | (not including li-ion since i dont know a fuck of a lot about rechargeables) | Nov 08 04:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 04:59 |
| techrights-news | tuesday ONS numbers for England and Wales expected to show 20% increase in deaths while media intentionally keeps quiet about it | Nov 08 05:02 |
| techrights-news | Social control media SUSPENDS people for stating OBVIOUS FACTS about COVID-19 (if those facts are not convenient) http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Nov 08 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Nov 08 05:03 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Gemini Articles of Interest | Nov 08 05:03 | |
| *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) | Nov 08 05:04 | |
| techrights-news | Links 08/11/2022: New Zenwalk Current ISO and Krita 5.1.3 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/krita-5-1-3/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/krita-5-1-3/ | Nov 08 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 08/11/2022: New Zenwalk Current ISO and Krita 5.1.3 | Techrights | Nov 08 05:13 | |
| *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@sdr787t2gs2be.irc) has joined #techrights | Nov 08 05:13 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers | Nov 08 05:14 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Nov 08 05:14 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Disney complained to Reddit and got the DISCUSSION of a fan edit of The Rise of Skywalker removed. | Nov 08 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/ju4wol/the_rise_of_skywalker_ascendant_now_finished/ | Nov 08 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Rise Of Skywalker: Ascendant - NOW FINISHED : fanedits | Nov 08 05:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is what reddit is for | Nov 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Sorry, this post was removed by Reddit's Legal Operations team. | Nov 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | This content was removed in response to a copyright claim by a third party." | Nov 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's all about the censorship | Nov 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Reddit's Legal Operations" | Nov 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | caps | Nov 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like it's LegalOps | Nov 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | There weren't any links to the torrents, so what infringed? | Nov 08 05:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like a real job | Nov 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | The discussion that there's one out there somewhere? | Nov 08 05:16 |
| mjg59_ | It's all about adhering to the DMCA, which requires you to remove content | Nov 08 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't infringe for me to tell you there's a fan edit called The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant | Nov 08 05:17 |
| mjg59_ | You're correct | Nov 08 05:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me wonders what got dmcad this time | Nov 08 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | Or that there's a torrent out there. | Nov 08 05:18 |
| mjg59_ | But fun fact! Making use of the DMCA safe harbor protection laws means you don't get to make that call | Nov 08 05:18 |
| mjg59_ | You have to take down on request, and restore if the original poster files a counterclaim | Nov 08 05:18 |
| mjg59_ | If you don't, you lose the safe harbor protections | Nov 08 05:18 |
| mjg59_ | It'd bad law | Nov 08 05:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | clinton-era | Nov 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like what actually happened is Reddit removes something and then says "It's our site, so you can't make a counter-claim.". | Nov 08 05:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | clinton dynasty LOVES disney | Nov 08 05:19 |
| mjg59_ | It's a combination of things | Nov 08 05:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | i thought bush was at fault originally | Nov 08 05:19 |
| mjg59_ | Yes, it's Clinton-era law, and it turns out a lot of bad law passed then | Nov 08 05:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its actually from before bush | Nov 08 05:19 |
| mjg59_ | But it's actually a legacy of WIPO negotiations | Nov 08 05:19 |
| techrights-news | "Mastodon usage explodes in the wake of Musk ruining Twitter, HEY HI training fair use is about to be legally tested, Signal tries to be Snapchat, KDE Korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-202/ | Nov 08 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | Clinton was a shyster and a Bubba. | Nov 08 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 202 – Late Night Linux | Nov 08 05:19 | |
| mjg59_ | So basically everyone had to implement something equivalent, otherwise they might end up with WIPO sanctions | Nov 08 05:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | "i took the initiative, of hobbling the freedom of the internet"-- al gore | Nov 08 05:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Liked sticking his cigars in women and flying around with Epstein to do who knows what with little girls. | Nov 08 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Like Bill Gates did. | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wipo is corruption, should be abolished | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO | Nov 08 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights | Nov 08 05:20 | |
| reptilian_thrills | it's actually a legacy of WIPO negotiations <- as was software becoming copyrightable in 1980 (legislated in 1976 law but didnt go into effect until 4 years later) | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and heads of it, like gurry, prosecuted | Nov 08 05:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | also in 1976: copyright becomes the default (blame wipo) | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's also staining the un | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | much like WHO | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | UN itself will perish | Nov 08 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not actually sure why a lot of rich men are pedos except maybe to openly flaunt that they'll break any laws they want, including those laws. | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if it persists with these corporate associations | Nov 08 05:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me thinks roy is just making fun of himself now | Nov 08 05:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | same for EU with UPC, EPO.. | Nov 08 05:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | united nations is dying | Nov 08 05:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah ;-) | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | but this is what you actually do | Nov 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, DMCA talk reminds me that I need to renew my VPN. | Nov 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Which throws those in the trash. | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | you take everything you think is bad (it very often is) and you say its dying, losing money etc | Nov 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | (Where they belong.) | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | then you take everything you like (even if its suffering REALLY badly) and you say ITLL BE FINE | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre recovering | Nov 08 05:21 |
| mjg59_ | Roy still hasn't explained why he works for a company that took money from the MoD | Nov 08 05:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: I was right about twitter dying, fb dying.. | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | doing everytyhing they can (when theyre not) etc | Nov 08 05:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | I was right about twitter dying, fb dying <- yes they dont exist anymore | Nov 08 05:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: before I was there | Nov 08 05:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many clients are historic | Nov 08 05:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | you said twitter would die and i said it would get purchased as a vanity project by some douchebag | Nov 08 05:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | company formed 1998 | Nov 08 05:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I was 16 | Nov 08 05:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | im too amuse to care who won that one | Nov 08 05:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | amused | Nov 08 05:22 |
| mjg59_ | Pretty sure IBM's involvement with the Nazi regime predates anyone who still works there | Nov 08 05:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I didn't say you worked with nazis | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | only that you had worked with red hat | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and red hat is now screwed | Nov 08 05:23 |
| mjg59_ | No, but you keep bringing up IBM's involvement with the naxis | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and staff is fleeing | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some to spare themselves | Nov 08 05:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | nazi germany is dying | Nov 08 05:23 |
| mjg59_ | So it seems fair to bring up Sirius's involvement with the MoD | Nov 08 05:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | (i wish it would stay dead though) | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it never died | Nov 08 05:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | we can do more trials! | Nov 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the mindset is till there | Nov 08 05:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | it never died <- i kno | Nov 08 05:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *still | Nov 08 05:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | im a big fan of the nuremberg trials. i used to be related to someone who interrogated (original) nazis | Nov 08 05:24 |
| techrights-news | "Not much has happened other than planning a trip and playing Guild Wars 2. My ex-employer still owes me $65.44 for mileage, and I am just petty enough to hound them over it. I'll give it a little more time (i.e. until about Thursday) and then get after them for it." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1667852164 | Nov 08 05:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: NASA? | Nov 08 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> Pretty sure IBM's involvement with the Nazi regime predates anyone who still works there | Nov 08 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | You'd be wrong actually. | Nov 08 05:27 |
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| reptilian_thrills | this wasnt cancel culture for wearing the wrong kind of hair, this was investigating actual war crimes to find out whether someone needed to be killed for their part in the reich | Nov 08 05:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | NASA? <- obviously everyony (afaik) that went through project paperclip "escaped" justice | Nov 08 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | It turns out that Fallout: New Vegas was just a cover story so that people would say that you were a conspiracy theorist if you said there was a guy on a life support machine that's over 150 years old in IBM's basement. | Nov 08 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Ripping off a video game. | Nov 08 05:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | i have mixed feelings about that, but i do call it the nazi aeronautics and space administration | Nov 08 05:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: the nazi schmazis | Nov 08 05:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | which cant be fair to everyone there | Nov 08 05:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont consider buzz aldrin a nazi | Nov 08 05:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i have a pretty negative view of some of the decisions nasa made | Nov 08 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | The US never had to cover up the fact that it scooped up Nazis right out of the SS and put them to work in the US government. | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe they did the right thing. im not sure how, but it might take more imagination than i have | Nov 08 05:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh, Aldrin is still alive | Nov 08 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | It just doesn't teach that (along with many other things) to school kids. | Nov 08 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | Teaches them about "trans history" or some shit. | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | and hes an okay guy imo | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | even if hes a republican | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | i wouldnt vote for a republican, but i dont hate all of them | Nov 08 05:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Nov 08 05:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | Gemini was 1960s | Nov 08 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | I already voted for Darren Bailey for Governor of Illinois. | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | apollo 11 was also 1960s | Nov 08 05:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | just made it | Nov 08 05:30 |
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| DaemonFC | I strongly disagree with his politics, but I also think he'll end whatever parts of the COVID "emergency order" are still out there. | Nov 08 05:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | i wanna say july 69 | Nov 08 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Where Pritzker claims his "unlimited power" comes from. | Nov 08 05:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | idk if it was july | Nov 08 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | I also voted for a Republican for the vacancy coming up on the Illinois Supreme Court. | Nov 08 05:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11 | Nov 08 05:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Apollo 11 - Wikipedia | Nov 08 05:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Mostly because I expect them to strike down the FOID Act shortly after. | Nov 08 05:31 |
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| DaemonFC | The FOID Act is not only an affront to our constitutional rights, it's also not working. | Nov 08 05:31 |
| techrights-news | Form and File: estimating running form in R - quantixed ⚓ https://quantixed.org/2022/11/05/form-and-file-estimating-running-form-in-r/ ䷉ Source: R | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//quantixed.org/2022/11/05/form-and-file-estimating-running-form-in-r/ | Nov 08 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois, actually pretty much just Chicago, is the most violent place in America. | Nov 08 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quantixed.org | Form and File: estimating running form in R – quantixed | Nov 08 05:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Despite the FOID Act. | Nov 08 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | Because they don't buy their guns from the FOID retailers. They get them out of a car trunk or a 3d printer, and then the police arrest good guys and charge them with crimes instead. | Nov 08 05:32 |
| techrights-news | Map any region in the world with R - Part II: Obtaining the coordinates ⚓ https://blog.rwhitedwarf.com/post/map_any_region_with_ggplot2_part_ii/ ䷉ Source: R with White Dwarf | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.rwhitedwarf.com/post/map_any_region_with_ggplot2_part_ii/ | Nov 08 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rwhitedwarf.com | Map any region in the world with R - Part II: Obtaining the coordinates | R with White Dwarf | Nov 08 05:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Only a complete fucking idiot would think that amending the FOID Act to check your social media page will work when the people who have the guns who shouldn't have them are already in violation of the FOID Act. | Nov 08 05:33 |
| techrights-news | Greenwashing and securitywashing mass surveillance https://staceyoniot.com/smart-cities-should-focus-on-sustainability-not-safety/ | Nov 08 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | Smart cities should focus on sustainability not safety - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis | Nov 08 05:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I would absolutely sue over the FOID Act, except that a court may dismiss it for lack of standing. | Nov 08 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | There are people filing lawsuits over it that have more standing than "I don't like that it took the police 180 days to give me one.". | Nov 08 05:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | i wanna say july 69 <- july 16 | Nov 08 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | There's people in "technical" non-compliance with it who face criminal charges. Jail time, even. | Nov 08 05:35 |
| techrights-news | Use data from Openstreetmap http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/05/import-streets-from-openstreetmap/ | Nov 08 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Use data from Openstreetmap – r.iresmi.net | Nov 08 05:35 | |
| DaemonFC | And they're already suing in the Forever Lawsuit. | Nov 08 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | Because the Democrats on the Supreme Court know what the correct outcome is and keep finding ways to send it back to the trial court so they can delay. | Nov 08 05:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats probably the date of the launch, not the landing | Nov 08 05:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | landing was maybe the 24th | Nov 08 05:36 |
| techrights-news | Researchers Show How Network Pruning Can Skew Deep Learning Models | NC State News ⚓ https://news.ncsu.edu/2022/11/network-pruning-skews-deep-learning/ ䷉ Source: NC State | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.ncsu.edu/2022/11/network-pruning-skews-deep-learning/ | Nov 08 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ncsu.edu | Researchers Show How Network Pruning Can Skew Deep Learning Models | NC State News | Nov 08 05:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Amazingly, the Illinois State Rifle Association is sponsoring a black woman who got charged with the FOID Act for defending her home. | Nov 08 05:36 |
| techrights-news | ‘Planet killer’ asteroids nearly a mile long detected after being hidden by the sun's brightness usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/11/01/planet-killer-asteroids-near-earth/10657903002/ ䷉ Source: Yarmo Machenbach | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/11/01/planet-killer-asteroids-near-earth/10657903002/ | Nov 08 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | The judge ruled that since she technically would have qualified for a card and the reason she was convicted of a Class A Misdemeanor was that she didn't pay $10 to exercise a constitutional right, that the law is unconstitutional as it applies to people in her situation. | Nov 08 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | This sort of reminds me of that time Indiana got the original Voter ID law struck down as an illegal poll tax because they didn't give you a State ID for free, and one was required to vote. | Nov 08 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | So you can tell them you need it to vote and they have to give it to you for free now. They won't tell you that. | Nov 08 05:38 |
| psydruid | corporations such as IBM are people too | Nov 08 05:39 |
| psydruid | Nazi people actually | Nov 08 05:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people are corporations, my MinceR | Nov 08 05:39 |
| techrights-news | 2000: ipv6 is the future. 2022: https://www.tecmint.com/disable-ipv6-rhel-rocky-almalinux/ | Nov 08 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Disable or Enable IPv6 in RHEL, Rocky & AlmaLinux | Nov 08 05:40 | |
| techrights-news | speedysense has just posted WEBSPAM (check links!). Sites that USED to cover GNU/Linux literally turn into SPAMFARMS https://speedysense.com/tips-for-web-designers/ | Nov 08 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-speedysense.com | Top 7 Tips and Lesson Need to Know for Every Web Designers | Nov 08 05:41 | |
| techrights-news | Gammath™ SPOT version 8.1 (beta) released on 7 November 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT https://pypi.org/project/gammath-spot/ | Nov 08 05:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory | Nov 08 05:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pypi.org | gammath-spot · PyPI | Nov 08 05:46 | |
| techrights-news | Why is this back-doored Windows garbage covered in a 'Linux' site? It keeps happening, sometimes for purely financial reasons (the Windows pushers paying for these 'plugs') https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/08/t8-pro-celeron-n5095-mini-pc-offers-triple-hdmi-output-dual-gigabit-ethernet/ | Nov 08 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | T8-Pro Celeron N5095 mini PC offers triple HDMI output, dual Gigabit Ethernet - CNX Software | Nov 08 05:47 | |
| techrights-news | Everyone should quit twitter immediately https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/your-account-is-permanently-suspended/ | Nov 08 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matuzo.at | Your account is permanently suspended - Manuel Matuzović | Nov 08 05:50 | |
| techrights-news | One of the worst aspects of being "on" Twitter is that those who CROSS-post there begin to SELF-censor in OTHER platforms too, based on the MASTERS of Twitter, which include Bill Gates | Nov 08 05:51 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Apt++? Nala is Like Apt in Ubuntu but Better ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Apt_Nala_is_Like_Apt_in_Ubuntu_but_Better.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Apt_Nala_is_Like_Apt_in_Ubuntu_but_Better.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Apt++? Nala is Like Apt in Ubuntu but Better | Nov 08 05:52 | |
| techrights-news | Vi kings https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ever-notice-how-many-linux-nerds | Nov 08 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | Ever notice how many Linux nerds are Scandinavian? | Nov 08 05:52 | |
| techrights-news | "Superannuation lurks and perks are now so large they are nearing the entire cost of Australia’s aged pension, and Budget 2022 adds just a little bonus to the suite of Baby Boomer bonuses." https://michaelwest.com.au/boomer-bonus-downsizer-the-only-budget-item-of-superannuation-substance/ | Nov 08 05:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Boomer Bonus: "Downsizer" the only Budget item of superannuation substance - Michael West | Nov 08 05:53 | |
| reptilian_thrills | not a problem ive ever had and the solution looks risky but this is cool https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N0dH4c4t5Tw | Nov 08 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to Remove Dead Bugs Inside Your Computer Monitor (Without Taking Screen Apart) - Invidious | Nov 08 05:54 | |
| techrights-news | Emoji for U.S. presidents https://blog.plover.com/2022/10/31#presidential-emoji | Nov 08 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.plover.com | The Universe of Discourse : Emoji for U.S. presidents | Nov 08 05:54 | |
| techrights-news | John Gruber is helping Apple LIE. Demand for Apple crap has fallen sales have plunged. Let's blame "COVID"... https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/11/07/iphone-14-covid | Nov 08 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daringfireball.net | Daring Fireball: Chinese COVID-19 Restrictions Now Affecting Shipments of iPhones 14 Pro and Pro Max | Nov 08 05:57 | |
| techrights-news | "The Gates Foundation invited me to speak at their annual #Goalkeepers2030 event and I could only show up in that space if I challenged it." They try to bribe EVERYONE. https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/06/billionaires-shouldnt-exist/ | Nov 08 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Billionaires shouldn’t exist – neritam | Nov 08 05:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 05:59 |
| techrights-news | "A convincing book which I found to be a bit irritating." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/11/book-review-the-language-hoax-john-h-mcwhorter/ | Nov 08 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | Book Review: The Language Hoax – John H. McWhorter – Terence Eden’s Blog | Nov 08 06:00 | |
| techrights-news | "This year I once again participated to Inktober, the yearly challenge where you draw one drawing a day each day of October. The Inktober web site provides a "prompt list": a list of words for each day, which you can (but are not forced to) follow." https://agateau.com/ | Nov 08 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome! | agateau.com | Nov 08 06:02 | |
| techrights-news | "Ladybird web browser now can run Linux in a PC emulator in Javascript" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/lundukes-weird-computing-news-nov | Nov 08 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | Lunduke's Weird Computing News - Nov 6, 2022 | Nov 08 06:03 | |
| techrights-news | "If the distribution's installer picks a separate /boot filesystem, it should get things like the size and the filesystem type correct (ie, big enough for the distribution's future needs, and of a type that the distribution will make sure its bootloaders always support)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SeparateBootMostlyNot | Nov 08 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SeparateBootMostlyNot | Nov 08 06:08 | |
| techrights-news | "Looked at numerically, a lot of our 18.04 machines were in our SLURM cluster" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu1804UpgradeWaveFine | Nov 08 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/Ubuntu1804UpgradeWaveFine | Nov 08 06:09 | |
| techrights-news | Boston-based quantum computer https://www.reuters.com/technology/boston-based-quantum-computer-quera-joins-amazons-cloud-public-access-2022-11-01/ | Nov 08 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boston-based quantum computer QuEra joins Amazon's cloud for public access | Reuters | Nov 08 06:11 | |
| techrights-news | CISA is STILL using "Log4j" for FUD https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/11/supply-chain-securement.html | Nov 08 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eponymouspickle.blogspot.com | The Eponymous Pickle: Supply Chain Securement | Nov 08 06:12 | |
| techrights-news | Lack of response -> more spread -> more SALES to make https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/us/politics/covid-data-outbreaks.html | Nov 08 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Lack of Data Still Blunts U.S. Response to Outbreaks - The New York Times | Nov 08 06:13 | |
| techrights-news | Pamela Samuelson https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/articles/265813-an-emergent-legal-right-to-repair-electronic-devices/abstract | Nov 08 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | An Emergent Legal Right to Repair Electronic Devices | Opinion | Communications of the ACM | Nov 08 06:14 | |
| techrights-news | "Eight days into Musk’s ownership of Twitter, many pundits have begun to predict that this is the beginning of the end. No one can quite imagine a world without Twitter, but no one can quite imagine this version of Twitter surviving, either." https://www.platformer.news/p/twitter-cut-in-half | Nov 08 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.platformer.news | Twitter, cut in half - by Casey Newton and Zoë Schiffer | Nov 08 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | "But if he just brings them back, and lets them go on leading conspiracies and hate mobs, he will have caused great harm to the US and I’d argue the planet." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/my-prediction-for-twitter/ | Nov 08 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | My Prediction For Twitter - Daniel Miessler | Nov 08 06:16 | |
| techrights-news | Algorithm for 2D-to-3D Engineering Integrates Art, Nature and Science - Penn Engineering Blog ⚓ https://blog.seas.upenn.edu/algorithm-for-2d-to-3d-engineering-integrates-art-nature-and-science/ ䷉ Source: uni Pennsylvania | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.seas.upenn.edu/algorithm-for-2d-to-3d-engineering-integrates-art-nature-and-science/ | Nov 08 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.seas.upenn.edu | Algorithm for 2D-to-3D Engineering Integrates Art, Nature and Science - Penn Engineering Blog | Nov 08 06:16 | |
| techrights-news | Nearly One in Ten Americans Reports Having Depression https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/nearly-one-ten-americans-reports-having-depression | Nov 08 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.publichealth.columbia.edu | Nearly One in Ten Americans Reports Having Depression | Columbia Public Health | Nov 08 06:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 06:20 |
| techrights-news | Why Farmers Oppose the Farm Laws - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/07/why-farmers-oppose-the-farm-laws/ | Nov 08 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Why Farmers Oppose the Farm Laws – neritam | Nov 08 06:20 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], He'll probably end up selling it at a loss. | Nov 08 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | A substantial one. | Nov 08 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Whether there's anything to recover is to be seen. Do they have patents? | Nov 08 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Musk's firings were so incompetent that they apparently fired dozens of people "by mistake" or realized that they needed them and have asked them to come back. | Nov 08 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Firing "half the company" just because "half" sounds right.... | Nov 08 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have mjg59_ and his employer. | Nov 08 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps innovating ways to lose $11 for every $1 it brings in. | Nov 08 06:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Lots of investors lined up to borrow money and lose it, you know. | Nov 08 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why San Francisco is shit hitting the fan right now. | Nov 08 06:46 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 06:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 07:20 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 08:20 |
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| reptilian_thrills | so hp lovecraft at one point in his life was writing 15-20 articles per day | Nov 08 08:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually emails | Nov 08 08:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually regular mail | Nov 08 08:39 |
| mjg59_ | Shame about all the racism | Nov 08 08:40 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Nov 08 08:42 | |
| reptilian_thrills | oh im not even a fan | Nov 08 08:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | im actually watching chill goblins video on lovecraft right now | Nov 08 08:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | but im having fun thinking of someone else who used to write 15-20 "items" per day | Nov 08 08:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | i have a friend who is farther left than i am who is obsessed with lovecraft | Nov 08 08:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | but who definitely thinks the same way-- just in a leftist way | Nov 08 08:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | for example hes left wing, but also thinks fauci is responsible for not one, but TWO deaths of members of the band queen | Nov 08 08:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | which while those are both tragedies, blaming fauci for either (but especially the more recent one) is sort of adorable? | Nov 08 08:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me is very smitten with a girl who went as freddie mercury for halloween | Nov 08 08:47 |
| techrights-news | Moving past TCP in the data center, part 1 ☛ https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/913260/91d14334d26bd267/ | Source: LWN | Nov 08 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Moving past TCP in the data center, part 1 [LWN.net] | Nov 08 08:47 | |
| techrights-news | "A little prep goes a long way Before I learned of random generation, I thought that blorby play was impossible." ☛ https://idiomdrottning.org/random | Source: Idiomdrottning | Nov 08 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idiomdrottning.org | The Good and Bad of Random | Nov 08 08:47 | |
| techrights-news | "You won't see this error message from a more recent Linux kernel." ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/ZFSNoSnapshotOddError | Source: uni Toronto | Nov 08 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/ZFSNoSnapshotOddError | Nov 08 08:48 | |
| techrights-news | ">After having built the reference Linux image from a SoM, SoC or terminal maker and having run it on the board" ☛ https://embeddeduse.com/2022/11/07/creating-a-custom-yocto-layer/ | Source: Burkhard Stubert | Nov 08 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-embeddeduse.com | Creating A Custom Yocto Layer – Burkhard Stubert | Nov 08 08:49 | |
| techrights-news | "The app has user managed servers. They are themed on country, city or interest – gaming, social and more." ☛ https://www.livemint.com/technology/apps/mastodon-what-is-it-how-to-use-it-and-more-details-about-twitter-s-alternative-11667883592493.html | | Nov 08 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livemint.com | Mastodon: What is it, how to use it and more details about Twitter’s alternative | Mint | Nov 08 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Whichever Mastodon server(s) you sign up for, however, you can follow users on a different one with no problem." ☛ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/08/mastodon-what-is-it-how-do-i-join-use-find-best-server-list-change-elon-musk-twitter-leaving-social-network-alternative | Source: The Guardian UK | Nov 08 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | What is Mastodon, the social network users are leaving Twitter for? Everything you need to know | Twitter | The Guardian | Nov 08 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "I don’t think Mastodon or the fediverse has ever received this much attention before" ☛ https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/mastodon-struggles-to-keep-up-with-flood-of-twitter-defectors-8255595/ | Source: Indian Express | Nov 08 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indianexpress.com | Mastodon struggles to keep up with flood of Twitter defectors | Technology News,The Indian Express | Nov 08 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Mastodon gives you more control over what you want to see." ☛ https://www.androidauthority.com/sign-up-use-mastodon-3232253/ | Source: Android Authority | Nov 08 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | How to sign up and use Mastodon | Nov 08 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Monday, November 07, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/irc-log-071122/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/irc-log-071122/ | Nov 08 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, November 07, 2022 | Techrights | Nov 08 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | "One thing I do extensively is that I use LaTeX to make my slides for college class slides and class assignments." ☛ https://arjenwiersma.nl/posts/2022-11-07-cleaning-up-after-lsp/index.html | Source: Arjen Wiersma | Nov 08 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arjenwiersma.nl | Cleaning up after LSP-mode | Nov 08 08:55 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i also think people should do a comparison of hpl and esr, because, wow | Nov 08 08:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | the more i learn about one the more he reminds me of the other | Nov 08 08:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 08:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i guess lovecraft would constantly tell his jewish immigrant wife not to invite her jewish friends over because he couldnt tolerate jews or immigrants | Nov 08 09:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | he might have compartmentalised a bit. but then 99% teuton warrors are known for that | Nov 08 09:02 |
| techrights-news | "Using GIS data directly from data.gouv.fr : railways network of France." ☛ https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/11/use-data-from-data-gouv-fr/ | Source: Rlang | Nov 08 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Use data from data.gouv.fr | R-bloggers | Nov 08 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | "AI that complements human efforts can increase wages by driving up worker productivity, Brynjolfsson argued." ☛ https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/11/ai-should-compliment-and-not-replace-humans-says-stanford-expert/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast | Nov 08 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | AI Should Compliment and Not Replace Humans, Says Stanford Expert : Broadband Breakfast | Nov 08 09:08 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "One step in solving the Advent of Code challenges is to grab the puzzle input." ☛ https://arjenwiersma.nl/posts/2021-11-13-Advent-of-Code-Helper/index.html | Source: Arjen Wiersma | Nov 08 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arjenwiersma.nl | Emacs Advent of Code helper | Nov 08 09:08 | |
| techrights-news | "Fortran is a language that is specialized for high-performance computing." ☛ https://www.matecdev.com/posts/why-fortran-still-used.html | | Nov 08 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matecdev.com | 5 Reasons Why Fortran is Still Used | Nov 08 09:09 | |
| MinceR | 08 050757 < reptilian_thrills> granted its like 200 years from now | Nov 08 09:10 |
| MinceR | i don't think humanity has 200 years to get its shit together | Nov 08 09:10 |
| *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Nov 08 09:11 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "Combining the interactive nature of Python with the power of C++" ☛ https://www.matecdev.com/posts/cpp-call-from-python.html | | Nov 08 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matecdev.com | How to Call C++ from Python | Nov 08 09:12 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <MinceR> i don't think humanity has 200 years to get its shit together | Nov 08 09:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pessimist: Renaissance -> industrial revolution -> neoliberalism -> war -> cannibalism | Nov 08 09:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | neoliberalism is already a FORM of cannibalism | Nov 08 09:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not literally | Nov 08 09:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | middle ages black plague, nuke ages human plague | Nov 08 09:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> not literally <- i mean the donner party proves the lengths starving people will go to | Nov 08 09:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | also i knew mincer was going to say that | Nov 08 09:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | even right after i said it :) | Nov 08 09:16 |
| techrights-news | ">We used to have ceremonies for leaving jobs." ☛ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/11/job-leaving-rituals-in-the-wfh-era/ | Source: Terence Eden | Nov 08 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | Job leaving rituals in the WFH era – Terence Eden’s Blog | Nov 08 09:17 | |
| techrights-news | "45,000 tech jobs had been eliminated before the cuts at Twitter were announced" ☛ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/11/08/jkfl-n08.html | Source: WSWS | Nov 08 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Mass layoffs in tech spread to Meta, corporate parent of Facebook - World Socialist Web Site | Nov 08 09:17 | |
| reptilian_thrills | i should point out that people felt the same way about humanity 1000 years ago | Nov 08 09:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | granted scientists make a far more compelling argument | Nov 08 09:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe for religious reasons | Nov 08 09:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | so thats a point for mincer | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people who thought that ages ago | Nov 08 09:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe for religious reasons <- right, before it was religious people | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and also believe in man talks to god, goes up to thew sky | Nov 08 09:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | now its scientists | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | scientists' arguments are very different | Nov 08 09:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | and also believe in man talks to god, goes up to thew sky <- lots of respected and (otherwise?) reasonable people do | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they look at resources | Nov 08 09:18 |
| MinceR | religious people are helping us bring about the end of times for ourselves :> | Nov 08 09:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | scientists' arguments are very different <- yes but | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and number of humans that exploded in 100-200 years | Nov 08 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they put 2 and 2 together | Nov 08 09:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | scentists also know that the best scientists can be wrong | Nov 08 09:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | too many people, lack of resoruces to maintain them, more efficient weapons ofdeath | Nov 08 09:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. biological | Nov 08 09:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | my favourite example is when the scientific community laughed at the wright brothers | Nov 08 09:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | too many people, lack of resoruces to maintain them, more efficient weapons ofdeath <- all reasons that point to mincers conclusion being inevitable | Nov 08 09:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 09:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | so its safe to say that if we manage somehow... it will be extraordinary | Nov 08 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a miracle nukes were not used offensitvely since 1945 | Nov 08 09:20 |
| MinceR | the weapons wouldn't be a problem of humans weren't so evil | Nov 08 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we came super-close a lot of times | Nov 08 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | over a dozen | Nov 08 09:20 |
| MinceR | yeah, they should have used a couple on moscow when it became clear that orcs just did what the nazis wanted to do | Nov 08 09:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | im not sure if we really did or you just dont like humanity :) | Nov 08 09:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | idiots: wars stopped happening because of nukes | Nov 08 09:21 |
| MinceR | then we wouldn't be in this shit now | Nov 08 09:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reality: wars do happen | Nov 08 09:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and those wars are won more easily by threatening to introduce nukes into them | Nov 08 09:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah, they should have used a couple on moscow <- not again! | Nov 08 09:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | we already nuked moscow in the 1800s | Nov 08 09:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | one nuke not enough for RUS-Putin? | Nov 08 09:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me doesnt even know what that is, heard about it here, chuckled | Nov 08 09:22 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of nukes in the 1800s | Nov 08 09:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | napoleon did it? | Nov 08 09:22 |
| MinceR | but the japanese didn't try to build a totalitarian empire since they were nuked | Nov 08 09:23 |
| MinceR | maybe it would have worked on russia too | Nov 08 09:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | napoleon dynamite, meet napoleon thermonuclear weapons | Nov 08 09:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | you maniacs! you sacre bleu it up! | Nov 08 09:23 |
| techrights-news | Facebook is dying(TM) ☛ https://analyticsindiamag.com/after-twitter-meta-succumbs-to-mass-layoffs/ | Source: AIM | Nov 08 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | After Twitter, Meta Succumbs to Mass Layoffs | Nov 08 09:24 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: ^ | Nov 08 09:24 |
| techrights-news | "Last week, AWS and Microsoft admitted that their customers have realized their CLOWN costs are out of control." ☛ https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ | Source: The Register UK | Nov 08 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Cloud magic was a nice story, now with an unhappy ending • The Register | Nov 08 09:25 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft: out future is SPAM company ☛ https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/11/03/microsoft-hints-at-low-cost-windows-11-pcs-powered-by-advertising-and-subscriptions/ | Source: Windows Latest | Nov 08 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowslatest.com | Microsoft hints at low-cost Windows 11 PCs powered by advertising and subscriptions | Nov 08 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | "If companies continue to outsource all their infrastructure work to the cloud providers" ☛ https://matt-rickard.com/what-happens-to-infra-engineers | Source: Matt Rickard | Nov 08 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | What Happens to Infra Engineers? | Nov 08 09:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: I seem to recall some online cranks speakiing of napoleon eta | Nov 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or how we not only had very advanced ancinet civilisations but also super-deadly weapon | Nov 08 09:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is no evidencew | Nov 08 09:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but some to show any nonsense flies "online" | Nov 08 09:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *comes to show | Nov 08 09:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is even one nuy here who promote this stuff | Nov 08 09:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *nut here who promotes | Nov 08 09:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> reptilian_thrills: ^<schestowitz[TR]> reptilian_thrills: ^ <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI | Nov 08 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - Invidious | Nov 08 09:30 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance: "Today, the EU Council Presidency’s proposal for a regulation on the use of" HEY HI! ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-governments-open-the-door-for-biometric-mass-surveillance-in-public-spaces/ | Source: Patrick Breyer | Nov 08 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | EU governments open the door for biometric mass surveillance in public spaces – Patrick Breyer | Nov 08 09:30 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | i still think bad history deserves ridicule, not cnesorhsip | Nov 08 09:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | censorship agenda can later expanded to "insulting" history | Nov 08 09:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or political censorship like in wikipedia, youtube etc. | Nov 08 09:31 |
| techrights-news | "People were filming a lot" ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-ukraine-putin-war-crimes-1.6636688 | Source: CBC | Nov 08 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | While Putin denies war crimes in Ukraine, a Russian soldier confesses to executing a civilian | CBC News | Nov 08 09:31 | |
| techrights-news | "China has allegedly established dozens of police stations abroad, including many in Europe" ☛ https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/beijing-s-long-arm-china-s-secret-police-stations-in-europe-a-d6732094-ca32-4c0a-8e6f-58b395b946aa | Source: Spiegel | Nov 08 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spiegel.de | Beijing's Long Arm: China's Secret Police Stations in Europe - DER SPIEGEL | Nov 08 09:31 | |
| techrights-news | "Greece will soon ban the sale of spyware, the government said on Monday" ☛ https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1197358/greece-to-ban-sale-of-spyware-amid-wiretapping-scandal/ | Source: Greece | Nov 08 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Greece to ban sale of spyware amid wiretapping scandal | eKathimerini.com | Nov 08 09:32 | |
| reptilian_thrills | there is even one nuy here who promote this stuff <- id be more worried except for the number of nuts here already | Nov 08 09:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | they seem to be ranked (in my opinion) not by how nuts they are but but how much they help you out | Nov 08 09:32 |
| techrights-news | Will Greece also ban "reputable" spyware like Microsoft Office, Google, Slack, Facebook, Android...? | Nov 08 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | then again, this is an all-trolls-are-created-equal argument | Nov 08 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | and even i dont believe that | Nov 08 09:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there ie a troll | Nov 08 09:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | yes? | Nov 08 09:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is a provocateur aiming to derail | Nov 08 09:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there was a neonazi | Nov 08 09:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | lol you mean mjg | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he had not been here for a while | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the trolls speaks of drugs a lot | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *troll | Nov 08 09:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | there was a neonazi <- hes not gone, hes probably listening to jordan peterson and cleaning his bunker | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I think the rest cause no harm | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the reputational harm is done by the nut | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it's important to publicly distance ourselves from the nuttery | Nov 08 09:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is an open channel | Nov 08 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | the reputational harm is done by the nut <- i think you imagine the harm this person does | Nov 08 09:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no, it can be leveraged to disparage the site | Nov 08 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | let me rephrase: i think you COMPLETELY imagine the harm one does | Nov 08 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | while ignoring the harm done by another | Nov 08 09:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and sometimes it does happen | Nov 08 09:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is also a racist | Nov 08 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | there are a few racists | Nov 08 09:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | who was threatened at gunpoint | Nov 08 09:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | at least two, more im sure | Nov 08 09:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which I think increased or elboldened this racism | Nov 08 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | who was threatened at gunpoint <- ah | Nov 08 09:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in "professional" companies there are many racists | Nov 08 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | to be certain | Nov 08 09:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but they are paid well and know this depends on them keeping their mouths shut | Nov 08 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | no, it can be leveraged to disparage the site <- has it been? | Nov 08 09:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yes | Nov 08 09:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | where? | Nov 08 09:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | one examplem is, | Nov 08 09:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people saying we call mfor people to be killed | Nov 08 09:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like Microsofters saying so | Nov 08 09:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | what year was that | Nov 08 09:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mono days | Nov 08 09:38 |
| mjg59_ | There have literally been people in this channel saying I should be killed | Nov 08 09:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people who were her what? one day? 2 days? | Nov 08 09:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> There have literally been people in this channel saying I should be killed <- i recall only one instance | Nov 08 09:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | where they said you having a literal (not mafia type) accident would be funny | Nov 08 09:38 |
| mjg59_ | Pretty sure psydruid's been here a while | Nov 08 09:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe im thinking of another | Nov 08 09:38 |
| mjg59_ | Look the complaint is not that Roy wants me dead | Nov 08 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | but if its the one im thinking of, that wasnt talking about you being "killed" in the sense you seem to be implying | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in twitter I got death threats | Nov 08 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | the complaint is not that Roy wants me dead <- okay | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in gas many | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *gab | Nov 08 09:39 |
| mjg59_ | The complaint is that Roy has created the kind of space where people feel safe in doing that | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in MINDS... cannot recall | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh, I did actually | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reported | Nov 08 09:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and actioned | Nov 08 09:39 |
| mjg59_ | But takes no responsibility | Nov 08 09:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | feel safe in doing that <- in doing what though? | Nov 08 09:39 |
| MinceR | a space with freedom of speech? | Nov 08 09:39 |
| MinceR | that's horrible | Nov 08 09:39 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: In expressing a desire for people to suffer physical harm | Nov 08 09:40 |
| MinceR | run back to faecesbook before the words hurt you | Nov 08 09:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | In expressing a desire for people to suffer physical harm <- george carlin expressed this very bluntly before his death | Nov 08 09:40 |
| MinceR | don't look back! | Nov 08 09:40 |
| techrights-news | "Musk’s team on Friday laid off roughly half the workforce in a bid to cut costs, rattling veteran employees" ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-suspends-users-imitating-elon-musk-early-test-free-speech-rule-rcna55968 | Source: NBC | Nov 08 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Twitter suspends users for imitating Elon Musk in early test of his free speech stance | Nov 08 09:40 | |
| reptilian_thrills | In expressing a desire for people to suffer physical harm <- as far as i know, thats not a crime in the united states | Nov 08 09:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | im not sure its even a crime in the uk | Nov 08 09:40 |
| techrights-news | Carlsberg? Elon does POT, not beer. ☛ https://cphpost.dk/?p=140245 | Source: Copenhagen Post | Nov 08 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Carlsberg won't put ads on Twitter anymore following Elon Musk's buyout - The Post | Nov 08 09:41 | |
| reptilian_thrills | so there must be some moral argument against it | Nov 08 09:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | which im sure someone will provide | Nov 08 09:41 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I don't usually think of community moderation thresholds as being "Someone is breaking the law" | Nov 08 09:41 |
| techrights-news | "Sibley was most recently COO at Forbes, and before that held executive stints at The Wall Street Journal" ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/time-magazine-enlists-new-ceo-1235257231/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | Nov 08 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Jessica Sibley Named CEO of Time Magazine – The Hollywood Reporter | Nov 08 09:42 | |
| mjg59_ | And I've been moderated here without breaking the law, so it's not the threshold this community holds itself to | Nov 08 09:42 |
| MinceR | well, CoC isn't law yet | Nov 08 09:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | I don't usually think of community moderation thresholds as being "Someone is breaking the law" <- and many of us dont believe a code of conduct will be applied reasonably | Nov 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> In expressing a desire for people to suffer physical harm <- as far as i know, thats not a crime in the united states | Nov 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that is more like pain/death wish | Nov 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | afaik, death wishes are legal | Nov 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but not death threats | Nov 08 09:42 |
| mjg59_ | Oh yeah for it to be criminal in the US it has to be something a reasonable person would interpret as an imminent threat | Nov 08 09:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | mjg: if youre suggesting that this channel should have a code of conduct, thats funny on several levels | Nov 08 09:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe even recursively | Nov 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | it's par for the course though | Nov 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | it's what his crowd does | Nov 08 09:43 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I'm actually not doing that! | Nov 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | yet. | Nov 08 09:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | reptilian_thrills: I'm actually not doing that! <- i would assume you were intoxicated if you did | Nov 08 09:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to me, manners are good | Nov 08 09:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but | Nov 08 09:43 |
| psydruid | Matt Butt Erick has spoken from the Gulag | Nov 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | intoxicated by the offer of money by megacorporations? | Nov 08 09:43 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I'm saying that this isn't a space that prizes free speech above all else | Nov 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | coc is not bad because it enforces manners | Nov 08 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | I'm saying that this isn't a space that prizes free speech above all else <- oh i dont buy it either | Nov 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but because it is selectively applied, disproportionately do | Nov 08 09:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean, ive rebutted it extensively | Nov 08 09:44 |
| mjg59_ | But would rather mute someone who disagrees with Roy than someone who hopes people die | Nov 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we also saw it used for aggravation and accusation inflation | Nov 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I cannot recall all the recent examples we picked of CoCs going awry | Nov 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like going, VERY very bad | Nov 08 09:44 |
| MinceR | currently 0 people are banned among the people who disagree with Roy in something | Nov 08 09:44 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: So why did I spend a year mutd? | Nov 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | also, this fake morality is amusing | Nov 08 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | CoC becames just some instrument to "Settle scores" | Nov 08 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not a tribunal" | Nov 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: you were disruptive to the discussion | Nov 08 09:45 |
| mjg59_ | By some objective standard? | Nov 08 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | most of not all morality is based on hypocrisy and double standards-- SOME at least is worthwhile even if it is imperfect | Nov 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | this fake morality is the same as the one that causes people to say "unalive" instead of "kill", while ensuring that every eukaryote in the solar system dies in a few hundred years | Nov 08 09:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | the imperfections of codes of conduct are pretty glaring imo | Nov 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | s/banned/muted/ | Nov 08 09:46 |
| psydruid | mjg59_ is presenting himself once again as a crybaby while distracting from all the harm he has done to people and computing on a global scale | Nov 08 09:46 |
| psydruid | that's just too rich for words | Nov 08 09:46 |
| MinceR | business as usual | Nov 08 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | atm our main issue is some troll promoting drugs, and for no reason other than to harm this channel | Nov 08 09:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | from all the harm he has done to people and computing on a global scale <- i try to bring this up occasionally | Nov 08 09:47 |
| MinceR | but hey, i'm sure that as long as nobody talks about death, humanity will somehow not turn Earth into Venus2 and not exterminate itself | Nov 08 09:47 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Nov 08 09:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | though everyone who is going to realise it already has | Nov 08 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: link for you: | Nov 08 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gemini://ploum.be/2022-11-07-software-engineers-responsibility.gmi gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-11-07-software-engineers-responsibility.gmi | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | same article, two URLs | Nov 08 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mainly bring it up to point out that i havent misplaced that notion or anything | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yesterday: "As software engineers, we have a huge moral responsibility. We are not only implementing it, we are ourselves using those tools and letting our family and children using them." | Nov 08 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | but the other thing is, i try to understand the coup as a whole | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | RMS says, better become a gartner | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gardener | Nov 08 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | and while he could be the leader for all i know | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | than write proprietary software | Nov 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I think he intentionally exaggerates | Nov 08 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | and hes certainly the closest we have to a spokseperson for them | Nov 08 09:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont know the actual leadership structure | Nov 08 09:49 |
| MinceR | RMS should have said that to poettering and his cult | Nov 08 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | the closest i can get to that is to look at who was there in the beginning | Nov 08 09:49 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Yeah I'm unclear on how implementing a mechanism that ensures that end-users have control over what their systems boot is a violation of that responsibility | Nov 08 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> I think he intentionally exaggerates <- its more like abstraction and reframing | Nov 08 09:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> RMS should have said that to poettering and his cult <- to go fuck themselves with a grenade launcher? | Nov 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: that mechanism would be a good idea | Nov 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | and we used to have one | Nov 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: but your overlords ensures that it's no longer available. | Nov 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | s/res/red/ | Nov 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: and you provide moral support to them in this | Nov 08 09:50 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: users had no ability to prevent their systems booting material they didn't want to boot in the past, and this was used against them | Nov 08 09:51 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: you're confusing MICROS~1 with users | Nov 08 09:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | users had no ability to prevent their systems booting material they didn't want to boot in the past <- i would love to buy a machine with firmware that prevented windows from running | Nov 08 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | id want to know what else it could prevent though | Nov 08 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: You can now! | Nov 08 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | better yet, id love to buy a machine without windows. those seem too rare (and most run macos instead) | Nov 08 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | And have been able to for a decade | Nov 08 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | Just add the Windows signing key to dbx | Nov 08 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | And no Windows install media will ever boot | Nov 08 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: You can now! <- i think you misunderstand the application for your expertise on the specs | Nov 08 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | Linux will still boot fine | Nov 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | until they use a different key | Nov 08 09:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i want to buy a machine PRECONFIGURED to not run windows | Nov 08 09:53 |
| MinceR | then they boot Backdoors, Backdoors phones home and fucks up your UEFI | Nov 08 09:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | and youre missing the joke (or pretending to miss it) | Nov 08 09:53 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I'd love it if System76 offered that | Nov 08 09:53 |
| MinceR | (that is, fucks it up even more) | Nov 08 09:53 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Yeah they can't use a different key because the system doesn't trust that key | Nov 08 09:53 |
| techrights-news | zaporizhzhia ☛ https://www.dw.com/en/zaporizhzhia-power-plant-no-longer-connected-to-ukraine-grid/a-62976178 | Source: Deutsche Welle | Nov 08 09:53 |
| MinceR | (it's a miracle UEFI can boot at all) | Nov 08 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zaporizhzhia plant no longer connected to Ukraine grid – DW – 11/07/2022 | Nov 08 09:53 | |
| reptilian_thrills | they have enough dark magic | Nov 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | and to do this, you must sign every kernel you boot | Nov 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | and play along with the charade | Nov 08 09:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | "i solumnly swear that i am not a chav running warez yeah" | Nov 08 09:54 |
| mjg59_ | Shim was explicitly designed to ensure that you could boot whatever kernels you wanted | Nov 08 09:55 |
| mjg59_ | If you don't want to sign stuff, you just disable signature validation using mokutil | Nov 08 09:55 |
| MinceR | shim could also run Backdoors, couldn't it? | Nov 08 09:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you want to set your own term in gnome, just install a plugin :/ | Nov 08 09:55 |
| MinceR | if i disable signature validation, they could boot Backdoors | Nov 08 09:55 |
| mjg59_ | If you configure your system to boot anything, it'll boot anything | Nov 08 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shim thwarts antitrust actiobn | Nov 08 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | against a criminal company | Nov 08 09:56 |
| MinceR | twist it any way you want, you can't elude the fact that MICROS~1 wrote the rules to give themselves all the advantage and the hardware vendors enforce all of them, in fear of being made to pay more for Backdoors licenses | Nov 08 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it can infest machines with BS | Nov 08 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that blocks Linux | Nov 08 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while claiming "SECURITY!" | Nov 08 09:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | you can't elude the fact that MICROS~1 wrote the rules to give themselves all the advantage <- this is definitely what i think | Nov 08 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I said this to you MOAR than 10 years ago | Nov 08 09:57 |
| mjg59_ | If you want your system to boot Linux but not boot Windows, it needs some way to tell the difference between them | Nov 08 09:57 |
| MinceR | and all the governments talking their asses off about how they have market economy and how they guard you against monopolies, do nothing about this | Nov 08 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I used the OOXML analogy | Nov 08 09:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> If you want your system to boot Linux but not boot Windows <- that was a joke of course | Nov 08 09:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | the point is to not have to run windows, not to actually have firmware do what i jokingly said | Nov 08 09:57 |
| MinceR | and the governments enforce other Imaginary Property rules to make this whole scheme workable | Nov 08 09:57 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: The fact that people can't install their own firmware on many commodity systems is absolute bullshit | Nov 08 09:58 |
| MinceR | without copyright, hardware vendors could preload Backdoors without paying MICROS~1 at all, thus MICROS~1 would have no hold on them | Nov 08 09:58 |
| techrights-news | I Fought The PayPal And I Won ☛ https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/i-fought-the-paypal-and-i-won | | Nov 08 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jessesingal.substack.com | I Fought The PayPal And I Won - by Yassine Meskhout | Nov 08 09:58 | |
| reptilian_thrills | The fact that people can't install their own firmware on many commodity systems is absolute bullshit <- if thats literally a fact thats even worse | Nov 08 09:58 |
| psydruid | you can choose to work in a Microsoft/IBM world or you can choose to replace this Microsoft/IBM world | Nov 08 09:58 |
| mjg59_ | Without copyright, copilot would be obviously legal | Nov 08 09:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | i assume its mostly just tedious as fuck | Nov 08 09:58 |
| techrights-news | "Meta Platforms Inc — the company that owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp — is reportedly preparing to lay off thousands of employees as the social media giant reels from a poor financial outlook for the coming year" ☛ https://www.dw.com/en/facebook-parent-company-meta-plans-mass-layoffs-report/a-63666377 | Source: Deutsche Welle | Nov 08 09:58 |
| MinceR | also, no one gets to make x86 CPUs that are full of malware because governments enforce intHell's Imaginary Property | Nov 08 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook parent company Meta plans mass layoffs — report – DW – 11/07/2022 | Nov 08 09:58 | |
| mjg59_ | And the GPL would have no meaning | Nov 08 09:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | and beyond the tools and knowledge of most users | Nov 08 09:58 |
| MinceR | s/that are full/that are not full/ | Nov 08 09:58 |
| MinceR | the GPL already has no meaning | Nov 08 09:59 |
| mjg59_ | I actually think that would be a better version of reality, but there's reasonable disagreement there | Nov 08 09:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | the GPL already has no meaning <- very little at best | Nov 08 09:59 |
| mjg59_ | Hey, maybe the SFC's case against Vizio will work out | Nov 08 09:59 |
| MinceR | you can take GPL-ed software, turn it into a daemon that provides a dbugs API and use it from proprietary software all you want | Nov 08 09:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | it historically has meaning | Nov 08 09:59 |
| mjg59_ | Having consumers be able to enforce the GPL would help a great deal | Nov 08 09:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe the SFC's case against Vizio will work out <- that would probably be bad | Nov 08 09:59 |
| MinceR | and putting everything on dbugs is now standard practice, thanks to dehomag | Nov 08 09:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | everything the sfc has done has fucked us one way or another | Nov 08 09:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | i can easily imagine how their case against vizio would be bad | Nov 08 10:00 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Are you familiar with the case? | Nov 08 10:00 |
| mjg59_ | It actually covers a lot of interesting legal ground | Nov 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | also, Linux is GPL-ed and "Linux Foundation" members get to do whatever they like with it | Nov 08 10:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | of course not, im banking that once i am, it will be as i say :) | Nov 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | including vmware | Nov 08 10:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | its prejudice to be sure | Nov 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | who are well known for being GPL violators | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | without copyright law for code, proprietary anf FOSS might have not much difference either | Nov 08 10:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | but that doesnt mean im wrong :) | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you skip that step | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by singling out GPL | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | workers could leak out the code | Nov 08 10:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | It actually covers a lot of interesting legal ground <- oh this im sure of | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and that's it | Nov 08 10:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it spreads like in dawn of computing | Nov 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | even now, mjg59_'s overlords are trying to take over the FSF so that GPLv4 can be a permissive license, removing copyleft from all works licensed with an "or later version" clause | Nov 08 10:01 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: The basic claim is that the GPL should actually be interpreted as a contract under US law | Nov 08 10:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | are trying to take over the FSF so that GPLv4 <- i think its said and done really | Nov 08 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: not just FSF | Nov 08 10:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | the rest is formalities | Nov 08 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also EFF and others | Nov 08 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Team Pentagon | Nov 08 10:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | also EFF and others <- eff already ate itself | Nov 08 10:01 |
| MinceR | also, there were some attempts on the state level to break the GPL | Nov 08 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no, eff's founder died | Nov 08 10:01 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: As a result, anyone who receives GPLed code should be in a position to demand access to the source code, without requiring that a copyright holder do so | Nov 08 10:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they ousted another cofounder | Nov 08 10:01 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah they ousted the guy who gave people LSD without telling them he was doing so | Nov 08 10:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | anyone who receives GPLed code should be in a position to demand access to the source code, without requiring that a copyright holder do so <- and how does this not open the door up to gpl trolling? | Nov 08 10:02 |
| techrights-news | Great news! ☛ https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/elon-musk-twitter-revenue-drop-advertisers | Source: Axios | Nov 08 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.axios.com | Elon Musk: Twitter suffers "massive drop in revenue" after advertisers leave | Nov 08 10:02 | |
| reptilian_thrills | like patent trolls but against gpl projects | Nov 08 10:02 |
| psydruid | MinceR, so GPLv3 must be forked in another direction? | Nov 08 10:02 |
| techrights-news | "Mastodon is installed on thousands" ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-mastodon-faq-1.6642946 | Source: CBC | Nov 08 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | What is Mastodon, and why is it surging amid all the chaos at Twitter? | CBC News | Nov 08 10:02 | |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Oh there's actually a big difference | Nov 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | psydruid: i don't think that helps | Nov 08 10:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Oh there's actually a big difference <- aliens? | Nov 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | psydruid: avoiding "or later" clauses and avoiding copyright assignment helps | Nov 08 10:02 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: GPL trolling generally involves demanding financial restitution in return for allowing someone to continue shipping code - that requires you to be a copyright holder | Nov 08 10:03 |
| MinceR | and in general not putting trust in organizations | Nov 08 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | GPL trolling generally involves demanding financial restitution <- not that | Nov 08 10:03 |
| techrights-news | "Kathy Griffin logged into her late mother’s Twitter account to continue trolling Elon Musk" ☛ https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/kathy-griffin-twitter-ban-dead-mother-account-elon-musk-1235425165/ | Source: Variety | Nov 08 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kathy Griffin Defies Musk Twitter Ban by Using Dead Mother's Account - Variety | Nov 08 10:03 | |
| MinceR | any organization can be taken over | Nov 08 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | im concerned about censorship | Nov 08 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | and denying access | Nov 08 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | which gpl3 mitigates | Nov 08 10:03 |
| techrights-news | "The planned changes to the verification system have been met by strong criticism from users" ☛ https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/twitter-subscription-check-marks-verification-delayed-1235424769/ | Source: Variety | Nov 08 10:03 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: This would allow someone to demand that the license be followed, but the worst case outcome would be the vendor just having to refund you and take the item back | Nov 08 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitter Verification Check Mark Changes Delayed to After Election Day - Variety | Nov 08 10:03 | |
| reptilian_thrills | but gpl trolls... | Nov 08 10:03 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: You wouldn't be able to prevent an item being sold | Nov 08 10:03 |
| techrights-news | "Cossette's guidance said the layoffs prompted increased concern about the effectiveness of Twitter's moderation" ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cossette-agency-government-ads-twitter-layoffs-1.6642527 | Source: CBC | Nov 08 10:03 |
| mjg59_ | Or terminate the license | Nov 08 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Federal government advised to pause Twitter ads after mass layoffs at company | CBC News | Nov 08 10:03 | |
| MinceR | also it's interesting that mjg59_ still tries this cancellation angle here | Nov 08 10:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | okay | Nov 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | do we really look that stupid? | Nov 08 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> also it's interesting that mjg59_ still tries this cancellation angle here <- agreed | Nov 08 10:04 |
| techrights-news | "fundraising" ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-lich-fundraising-1.6638333 | Source: CBC | Nov 08 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Money flowed to convoy protesters through envelopes of cash, cryptocurrency campaign, inquiry hears | CBC News | Nov 08 10:04 | |
| psydruid | MinceR, or does a new licence have be drafted up that is GPL-like but somehow incompatible with the GPL? | Nov 08 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | but then, maybe it has no practical purpose | Nov 08 10:04 |
| mjg59_ | It just turns into "It's cheaper to follow the license than refund some people who demand we do so" | Nov 08 10:04 |
| psydruid | it's getting complicated | Nov 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | psydruid: i don't think that's necessary. but i'm doubtful about how much we can expect from licenses anyway. | Nov 08 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe its like arguing against evolution for its own sake against people who understand science | Nov 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | the state enforces licenses and the state can't be trusted to do the right thing | Nov 08 10:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> the state enforces licenses and the state can't be trusted to do the right thin <- | Nov 08 10:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | all licnenses can really do is buy a couple decades | Nov 08 10:05 |
| mjg59_ | Some people will follow the terms of the GPL because they want to adhere to the social contract | Nov 08 10:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | until microsoft finds a way to fuck us despite them | Nov 08 10:05 |
| MinceR | also, megacorporations have managed to force internationally changes to Imaginary Property law | Nov 08 10:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | because they want to adhere to the social contract <- surely you dont mean corporations | Nov 08 10:05 |
| mjg59_ | But many will only do so because there are legal consequences for failing to do so | Nov 08 10:05 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure why people would think they can't do so again | Nov 08 10:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | But many will only do so because there are legal consequences for failing to do so <- until they find a loophole | Nov 08 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | twitter TOS is changing | Nov 08 10:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | like simply buying out projects with sponsorship (linux fundation) | Nov 08 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Freenode TOS changed | Nov 08 10:06 |
| MinceR | there were plenty of shits like the WIPO Copyright Treaty | Nov 08 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | WIPO and WTO change laws | Nov 08 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | internationally | Nov 08 10:06 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Yeah, the biggest one of those is finding projects they can ship where none of the copyright holders are willing to enforce the license | Nov 08 10:06 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Allowing users to enforce the terms without needing copyright holders to be enforced removes the biggest loophole here | Nov 08 10:07 |
| MinceR | also, if you use your real name on copyrighted works, the likes of MICROS~1 and dehomag and their SJW troll armies can reach you and do damage to your livelihood | Nov 08 10:07 |
| techrights-news | [Old] "The doctors’ organisation, which has campaigned in defence of Assange since late 2019" ☛ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/19/khfj-o19.html | Source: WSWS | Nov 08 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Doctors send open letter to British and US governments demanding Assange’s freedom - World Socialist Web Site | Nov 08 10:07 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Yeah, the biggest one of thos <- is one i cant think of a single example of | Nov 08 10:07 |
| MinceR | you'd better have an army of your own if you paint a target over yourself like that | Nov 08 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | but the one where sponsors take over is one i can think of examples of | Nov 08 10:07 |
| MinceR | and thermonuclear weapons | Nov 08 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | like ibm gcc | Nov 08 10:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats a huge problem | Nov 08 10:07 |
| techrights-news | "The complaints were filed against Bureau of Corrections chief Gerald Bantag, who has been suspended from his post, prisons security official Ricardo Zulueta and other key suspects in the October 3 fatal shooting" ☛ https://www.voanews.com/a/philippine-prisons-chief-charged-in-journalist-s-killing-/6823770.html | Source: VOA News | Nov 08 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Philippine Prisons Chief Charged in Journalist's Killing | Nov 08 10:08 | |
| reptilian_thrills | sfc: LOOK OVER HERE <- cynical admittedly | Nov 08 10:08 |
| techrights-news | Alaa ☛ https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1989049.html | Source: RTL | Nov 08 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Jailed Alaa Abdel Fattah: Three Egyptian journalists start hunger strike to free dissident | Nov 08 10:08 | |
| reptilian_thrills | whats sfc doing to defend gcc from ibm takeover? | Nov 08 10:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | or maybe theres no threat :) thats possible | Nov 08 10:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | seems unlikely | Nov 08 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> whats sfc doing to defend gcc from ibm takeover? | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | too late | Nov 08 10:09 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: A bunch of gcc people were talking to SFC about providing hosting infrastructure, while another bunch were talking to the Linux Foundation about doing the same | Nov 08 10:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | maybe sfc and ibm have a common enemy there | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's not thet they don't prevent it | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they censor ICBM critics | Nov 08 10:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> too late <- i know | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they actively help ICBM take over gnu projects | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | via the ICBM front group ZemlinPAC | Nov 08 10:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> they censor ICBM critics <- when did sfc... other than stallman himself | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not just IBM | Nov 08 10:09 |
| MinceR | ibm also owns part of the "Linux Foundation" | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also Intel, Microsoft, VMware... | Nov 08 10:09 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder if they also own the SFC | Nov 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | check their site | Nov 08 10:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> ibm also owns part of the "Linux Foundation" <- ibm probably owned a piece of my grandmother but i never managed to prove it | Nov 08 10:10 |
| *schestowitz[TR] checks also | Nov 08 10:10 | |
| MinceR | oh yes, ibm is very much into owning people | Nov 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ICBM: barcode pioneer | Nov 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "we tested on pigs" | Nov 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "then some humans" | Nov 08 10:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> makes me wonder if they also own the SFC <- leftist reactionaries dont need to be bought, theyll volunteer to be owned | Nov 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | and also in killing a few millions of them in gas chambers | Nov 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | but you won't hear mjg59_ complain about that | Nov 08 10:11 |
| psydruid | "we own people 100% of the time in life and in death" | Nov 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | talking about wishing people death on IRC is a far more serious crime than that. | Nov 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://sfconservancy.org/news/2017/nov/27/companies-principles/ | Nov 08 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Facebook, Google, IBM and Red Hat Formally Adopt Portion of GPL Enforcement Principles - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 08 10:11 | |
| reptilian_thrills | we can still wish nazis die, hopefully | Nov 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "IBM and Red Hat" | Nov 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 2017 | Nov 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | not if you don't want to be sued by them | Nov 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | year before the takeover | Nov 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | and cancelled by them | Nov 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | and the platform you used to talk on being also taken down by them | Nov 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Godot Engine" https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ | Nov 08 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Current Projects - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 08 10:12 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | page NOT up to date | Nov 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Gotdot left | Nov 08 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | "Godot Engine" <- github | Nov 08 10:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | might have even signed the letter | Nov 08 10:12 |
| mjg59_ | Roy's employers were paid by the UK Ministry of Defence, not known for their role in making people continue to be alive | Nov 08 10:12 |
| MinceR | that's the only real principle behind people like mjg59_ | Nov 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> "Godot Engine" <- github | Nov 08 10:12 |
| mjg59_ | IBM's actions in the 30s and 40s were reprehensible | Nov 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also tookm MSFT money | Nov 08 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I confronted them about iut | Nov 08 10:13 |
| MinceR | saying what the megacorporations who pay him is OK, saying something else is criminal and must be suppressed | Nov 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Microsofgt paid them to push C# | Nov 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2018/oct/31/sandler-thoughts-ibm-red-hat-acquisition/ | Nov 08 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Thoughts on IBM’s acquisition of Red Hat - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 08 10:13 | |
| MinceR | ibm hasn't changed, MICROS~1 learned everything they know from ibm and also haven't changed | Nov 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | " intellectual property licensing and business development professional with IBM." | Nov 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | intellectual property licensing and business development professional with IBM. | Nov 08 10:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | It's Basically Microsoft | Nov 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://sfconservancy.org/about/board/ | Nov 08 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Directors - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 08 10:13 | |
| mjg59_ | But if we hold the current nature of a company to their behaviour in history, it's legitimate to ask why Roy works for a company that got money from murderes | Nov 08 10:13 |
| MinceR | does Roy run that company? | Nov 08 10:13 |
| psydruid | distraction | Nov 08 10:14 |
| mjg59_ | No, but nor do Red Hat employees run IBM | Nov 08 10:14 |
| MinceR | does Roy practice online advocacy in favor of that company? | Nov 08 10:14 |
| MinceR | afaik management is usually employed by the corporation they run | Nov 08 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "The interests of companies are not always aligned with the free software community or the public. Companies that seem to be in one stable condition today may change dramatically tomorrow. While I expect Red Hat to flourish under IBM ownership" -Sandler | Nov 08 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | she was wrong | Nov 08 10:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | red hat crumbles for several reasons | Nov 08 10:14 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: and you put your name on Free Software 9/11 | Nov 08 10:14 |
| MinceR | in a prominent place | Nov 08 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | Nov 08 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights | Nov 08 10:15 | |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: That's a completely reasonable position for you to hold - but you don't then get to criticise RH employees for IBM's history | Nov 08 10:15 |
| psydruid | "critising American megacorporations hurts them and me PERSONALLY" | Nov 08 10:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> mjg59_: and you put your name on Free Software 9/11 <- and dec 14 (2008) | Nov 08 10:15 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: i do get to criticize rh/ibm employees for playing the saint and demanding to be taken as some sort of moral paragons | Nov 08 10:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | (2018 rather) | Nov 08 10:15 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Ok, so it's fair to criticise Roy for playing the saint? | Nov 08 10:15 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: and demanding that i stop using words they don't like while they themselves continue using those words | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | so it's fair to criticise Roy for playing the saint? <- yes :D | Nov 08 10:16 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: it's fair to criticize Roy for whatever he has actually done | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | though the scale is not the same, nor is the connection the same | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | the level of involvement between roy and the mod is QUITE different | Nov 08 10:16 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see him sign a document attempting to cancel someone | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | i would say there is effectively none | Nov 08 10:16 |
| psydruid | criticising* | Nov 08 10:16 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see him tell me that i should cease using a particular word | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | the level of involvement between ibm and red hat is downplayed | Nov 08 10:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | rather than none | Nov 08 10:17 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Including him claiming virtue while working for a company that took money to help kill people in the middle east? | Nov 08 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | ibm has never been brought to justice | Nov 08 10:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <MinceR> i have yet to see him sign a document attempting to cancel someone | Nov 08 10:17 |
| MinceR | to the extent he actually contributed to that, sure | Nov 08 10:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not just signed | Nov 08 10:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg did more than just signed | Nov 08 10:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he was one of the initiators | Nov 08 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | for war crimes on a scale that goes beyond even historical | Nov 08 10:17 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: How many RH employees helped IBM enable the holocaust? | Nov 08 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | but unthinkable | Nov 08 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> MinceR: How many RH employees helped IBM enable the holocaust? | Nov 08 10:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | <- its about the company ffs | Nov 08 10:17 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: many IBM employees did | Nov 08 10:18 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Current IBM employees? | Nov 08 10:18 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: and RH employees are now IBM employees | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to be clear, i did NOT accuse mjg of being connected to ICBM's crimes | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it's a straw man | Nov 08 10:18 |
| MinceR | no, they probably kicked the bucket since then | Nov 08 10:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> MinceR: Current IBM employees? <- how do you manage to frame EVERYTHING so that only YOU ever have an actual point? | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's also a straw man comparing hitler to mod | Nov 08 10:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | seriously | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I never worked for mod | Nov 08 10:18 |
| MinceR | and the current crop of SJWs uses ibm's ill-gotten name to lay credence to their claims and demands | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no idea what project we did for them, maybe over a decade ago | Nov 08 10:18 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Ok! So if it's ok to criticise people based on their employer having done bad things in the past, why is it not ok to criticise Roy for his employer having done bad things in the past? | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we as in the colleagues who all left | Nov 08 10:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | why is it not ok to criticise Roy for his employer having done bad things in the past? <- it is okay | Nov 08 10:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I am the longest-serving staff except the foundert | Nov 08 10:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | but why are you doing it? | Nov 08 10:19 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: i'm not criticizing people based on their employer having done bad things in the past. i'm criticizing people's employer for having done bad things _all the fucking time_ and people for supporting that | Nov 08 10:19 |
| reptilian_thrills | because surely the reason youre doing it would be a better answer to your question than the dance youre doing right now | Nov 08 10:19 |
| MinceR | but yeah, technically everything we know about is "in the past" | Nov 08 10:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: I did NOT link you to ICBM and the holocaust | Nov 08 10:19 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Because there seems to be an immensely tedious "This person works for Red Hat, so holocaust, so bad" argument that Roy keeps trotting out | Nov 08 10:19 |
| MinceR | everything you see on your monitor is via photons that were emitted "in the past" | Nov 08 10:19 |
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| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Because there seems to be an immensely tedious "This person works for Red Hat, so holocaust, so bad" argument that Roy keeps trotting out <- roy doesnt help matters | Nov 08 10:20 |
| MinceR | so let bygones be bygones and make everyone a slave of dehomag and MICROS~1. | Nov 08 10:20 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: I didn't say you did? | Nov 08 10:20 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Nov 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fwiw, the company is connecterd to construction in its origins | Nov 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as I understand it, the company that build number 10 and others | Nov 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and went bust a decade agp | Nov 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *built | Nov 08 10:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | there seems to be an immensely tedious "This person works for Red Hat, so holocaust, so bad" <- you and roy are in an endless feud | Nov 08 10:20 |
| mjg59_ | Look I just want you all to make intellectually coherent arguments | Nov 08 10:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | so the level of "no u" jokes is like 100 levels deep | Nov 08 10:20 |
| mjg59_ | Rather than repetitive "IBM did a bad, therefore this is bad" | Nov 08 10:21 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: also, _you_ don't get to hide behind rh _or_ ibm when you put your own fucking name on the letter | Nov 08 10:21 |
| psydruid | s/coherent/dishonest/ | Nov 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | biab | Nov 08 10:21 |
| mjg59_ | Because there's a whole bunch of fundamentally important stuff that's just lost behind you all sounding like fucking idiots the entire time | Nov 08 10:21 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 10:21 |
| techrights-news | Antarctica ☛ https://brr.fyi/posts/voting-from-antarctica | Source: Brr | Nov 08 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-brr.fyi | Voting from Antarctica | Nov 08 10:21 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> Because there's a whole bunch of fundamentally important stuff that's just lost behind you all sounding like fucking idiots the entire time <- no u | Nov 08 10:21 |
| MinceR | good thing canceling someone for saying someone he didn't say makes you sound like a fucking genius | Nov 08 10:22 |
| mjg59_ | Commercial capture of IP law! It's awful! | Nov 08 10:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | Because there's a whole bunch of fundamentally important stuff that's just lost <- this i agree with | Nov 08 10:22 |
| MinceR | here we go again, mjg59_ posturing as an intelligent being, something he is not | Nov 08 10:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> good thing canceling someone for saying someone he didn't say makes you sound like a fucking genius <- :> | Nov 08 10:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | Because there's a whole bunch of fundamentally important stuff that's just lost <- this i agree with <- starting with the leadership of the fsf | Nov 08 10:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | which is GONE | Nov 08 10:22 |
| techrights-news | "Fight to Repair Daily to the Fight to Repair Weekly" ☛ https://securepairs.org/fight-to-repair-daily-friday-october-28-2022/ | Source: Securepairs | Nov 08 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fight to Repair Daily: Friday October 28, 2022 – securepairs.org | Nov 08 10:22 | |
| reptilian_thrills | it was on shaky ground. now its just on the ground. | Nov 08 10:23 |
| mjg59_ | The increasing embrace of "Open Source" by large enterprises in a way that does nothing to enhance user freedom - that's bad! | Nov 08 10:23 |
| techrights-news | youtube ☛ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/florida-video-arrest-youtube-blind-b2219810.html | Source: The Independent UK | Nov 08 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | ‘Are you a tyrant?’ Viral video shows Florida police arrest legally blind 61-year-old for holding cane | The Independent | Nov 08 10:23 | |
| reptilian_thrills | The increasing embrace of "Open Source" by large enterprises in a way that does nothing to enhance user freedom - that's bad! <- very bad | Nov 08 10:23 |
| psydruid | > here we go again, mjg59_ posturing as an intelligent being, something he is not | Nov 08 10:23 |
| psydruid | pretending not to be a pig while farting in the mud | Nov 08 10:23 |
| mjg59_ | Governments actively compromising hardware owned by their own citizens to monitor them - fucking awful! | Nov 08 10:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | <psydruid> pretending not to be a pig while farting in the mud <- devils advocate: mjg gets this conversations going about the most important issues | Nov 08 10:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | more than even roy does. | Nov 08 10:24 |
| MinceR | mjg59_ helping megacorporations compromise hardware owned by the citizens of the same governments -- fucking genius! | Nov 08 10:24 |
| techrights-news | "The 61-year-old Hodges was booked into Columbia County Jail on Halloween morning and was not released until 10:30 a.m. the next day." ☛ https://www.cltampa.com/news/florida-deputies-arrest-blind-man-for-carrying-cane-14514749 | | Nov 08 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cltampa.com | Florida deputies arrest blind man for carrying cane | Florida News | Tampa | Creative Loafing Tampa Bay | Nov 08 10:24 | |
| mjg59_ | Turning it into repetitive conversations about how IBM did a genocide doesn't actually help there! | Nov 08 10:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you want a revival, just tell people the devils in town | Nov 08 10:24 |
| techrights-news | "Jim Hodges was taken into custody by the North Florida cops after a tense interaction" ☛ https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/florida-cops-arrest-legally-blind-man-for-carrying-cane-video-32855192 | | Nov 08 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.orlandoweekly.com | Florida cops arrest legally blind man for carrying cane [VIDEO] | Florida News | Orlando | Orlando Weekly | Nov 08 10:24 | |
| reptilian_thrills | mjg does one better, the devil comes to the mountain | Nov 08 10:24 |
| mjg59_ | Yes, it's true! They did! They should suffer consequences! | Nov 08 10:24 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv4eTE0aUiQ | Nov 08 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=wv4eTE0aUiQ | Nov 08 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=wv4eTE0aUiQ ) | Nov 08 10:25 | |
| mjg59_ | But they're not going to, and continuing to campaign on that front just makes it harder to talk about the shit that can change! | Nov 08 10:25 |
| MinceR | oh yeah | Nov 08 10:25 |
| MinceR | sociopaths being in power and making life hell for all of us, not something we can change | Nov 08 10:25 |
| MinceR | until we all die out | Nov 08 10:25 |
| mjg59_ | If Israel isn't boycotting IBM, it's pretty fucking obvious that they're never going to suffer for that | Nov 08 10:25 |
| MinceR | better support them, then. | Nov 08 10:25 |
| mjg59_ | I didn't say support them | Nov 08 10:26 |
| mjg59_ | I said pick better battles | Nov 08 10:26 |
| MinceR | afaict israel is an undemocratic religious fundamentalist shithole | Nov 08 10:26 |
| mjg59_ | Nobody needs to stand up for IBM | Nov 08 10:26 |
| MinceR | they can't be relied on even as much as the less benighted states can be | Nov 08 10:26 |
| mjg59_ | IBM's got enough lobbyists to do that for themselves | Nov 08 10:26 |
| MinceR | and even the latter are going to shit | Nov 08 10:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> I said pick better battles <- cant agree there | Nov 08 10:26 |
| MinceR | democracy in the USA is ending | Nov 08 10:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | fsvo democracy | Nov 08 10:26 |
| MinceR | the people of the UK demonstrated that they're incapable of running a democracy | Nov 08 10:27 |
| MinceR | the EU is a rolling failure | Nov 08 10:27 |
| psydruid | mjg59_ is like a collaborator in the war justifying his reasons for collaborating, I don't put much stock into that | Nov 08 10:27 |
| MinceR | the rest of the five eyes aren't doing much better either. | Nov 08 10:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> the people of the UK demonstrated that they're incapable of running a democracy <- to be fair it was bolted on | Nov 08 10:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> the rest of the five eyes aren't doing much better either. <- six? | Nov 08 10:27 |
| MinceR | it was also a reference apparently many other states turned to when building a democracy | Nov 08 10:27 |
| MinceR | not a good prognosis for them either | Nov 08 10:27 |
| MinceR | i don't know about extensions to five eyes | Nov 08 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> it was also a reference apparently many other states <- what else would they use as a model though? | Nov 08 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | france i suppose :D | Nov 08 10:28 |
| MinceR | their own minds, if they have one, hopefully | Nov 08 10:28 |
| MinceR | they probably don't, being humans | Nov 08 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats not how politics works obviously | Nov 08 10:28 |
| psydruid | "please don't hurt IBM, they're my friends" | Nov 08 10:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | the way you start a country is by ripping off another one and pretending its different | Nov 08 10:28 |
| MinceR | so how did the first country get started? | Nov 08 10:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | someone fucked up | Nov 08 10:29 |
| mjg59_ | The obsession here with having five minute hates against random individuals or specific corporations rather than the entire political situation that enables corporations to arbitrarily constrain user freedom is just infuriating | Nov 08 10:29 |
| psydruid | lol | Nov 08 10:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | then everyone else followed that | Nov 08 10:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 10:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me bows | Nov 08 10:29 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: how many minutes did this take, mr. genius? >> https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ | Nov 08 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An open letter to remove Richard M. Stallman from all leadership positions | rms-open-letter.github.io | Nov 08 10:29 | |
| MinceR | fucking hypocrite. | Nov 08 10:30 |
| mjg59_ | If you really believe that any individual is fundamental to the eroding of user freedom, how long do you think it's going to take for the corporations to just replace that individual? | Nov 08 10:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> mjg59_: how many minutes did this take <- i think wokeoffice has a template for that actually | Nov 08 10:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 10:30 |
| MinceR | i would hope shithub has the template built in | Nov 08 10:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | actually the template joke isnt entirely for giggles (though it mostly is) | Nov 08 10:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive seen previous versions of that letter, or close enough | Nov 08 10:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | for other people | Nov 08 10:31 |
| MinceR | it's the least the redmond mafia can do for its troll army | Nov 08 10:31 |
| mjg59_ | The focus on individuals just ends up making it look like gamergate | Nov 08 10:31 |
| MinceR | like mr. genius here, who campaigned for locking down Linux more and more for the sake of MICROS~1's competitive advantage, under the guise of "Secure Boot" | Nov 08 10:31 |
| psydruid | lol | Nov 08 10:31 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: oh, so rms isn't an individual anymore? | Nov 08 10:31 |
| reptilian_thrills | The focus on individuals just ends up making it look like gamergate <- well... i guess it woudl have been a great idea to not focus on tso and stallman than | Nov 08 10:31 |
| MinceR | it's interesting to see how all the rules apply to mr. genius differently. | Nov 08 10:31 |
| psydruid | like RMS or LT? | Nov 08 10:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | rms lt tso | Nov 08 10:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | gilmore | Nov 08 10:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | to see how all the rules <- cancel culture is based on hypocrisy and double standards | Nov 08 10:32 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Eh I think there's two classes there | Nov 08 10:32 |
| psydruid | the tool is making even more of a fool of himself | Nov 08 10:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Eh I think there's two classes there <- anything is possible, some things are likely | Nov 08 10:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | <psydruid> the tool is making even more of a fool of himself <- let him | Nov 08 10:33 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: My criticism of Ted wasn't based on him being in any sort of leadership role, just being visible in the community - it was explicitly criticism of him for a specific topic, not an attempt to assert that his behaviour was part of a wider campaign to do, well, anything | Nov 08 10:33 |
| MinceR | being visible in a community, the most grave of all crimes | Nov 08 10:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | it was explicitly criticism of him for a specific topic <- maybe the effect had nothing to do with you | Nov 08 10:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | but it seemed to be pivotal | Nov 08 10:34 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Unlike all the gamergate targets, where the criticism of them as individuals was tied to an argument that they represented a greater issue | Nov 08 10:34 |
| MinceR | far graver than anticompetitive actions or genocide | Nov 08 10:34 |
| techrights-news | A Tribe without Tribalism gemini://thurk.org/blog/587.gmi | Nov 08 10:34 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I think the accusations regarding rms and Linus are more accurate, and I think my argument that there's still a difference is weaker | Nov 08 10:34 |
| techrights-news | A Linux laptop on Chromebook for my student gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~lettuce/linux-loaner-laptop.gmi | Nov 08 10:34 |
| MinceR | of course you'd say you "think" so | Nov 08 10:35 |
| MinceR | even if you can't even argue for it, because it doesn't make any logical sense | Nov 08 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | I think the accusations regarding rms and Linus are more accurate <- the accusations regarding rms are clearly bunk | Nov 08 10:35 |
| MinceR | hell, the people who killed our industry and our movement _paid_ you to do so! | Nov 08 10:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | the most substantial one i know of is that he misgendered your partner | Nov 08 10:35 |
| techrights-news | QFNs ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/how-those-nes-dip-chips-were-reduced-to-qfns/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Those NES DIP Chips Were Reduced To QFNs | Hackaday | Nov 08 10:36 | |
| techrights-news | Commodore ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/commodore-datasette-does-its-own-calibration/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Commodore Datasette Does Its Own Calibration | Hackaday | Nov 08 10:36 | |
| reptilian_thrills | natalie wynn has an AMAZING video explaining how rms was abstracted into all of those things you accused him of | Nov 08 10:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | ironically the same video was funded by one of the people who signed it | Nov 08 10:36 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: But they were clearly leaders in communities in a way that the gamergate victims weren't, and while you may well not agree with criticisms I made I don't think it's the same as (say) the accusations made against Zoe Quinn then being used as an argument that gaming journalism as a whole was corrupt | Nov 08 10:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | But they were clearly leaders in communities in a way that the gamergate victims weren't, and while you may well not agree with criticisms I made I don't think it's the same as (say) the accusations made against Zoe Quinn then being used as an argument that gaming journalism as a whole was corrupt <- agreed except | Nov 08 10:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | i never brought up gamergate or quinn | Nov 08 10:37 |
| reptilian_thrills | and im not sure how the comparison is helpful (im not saying it isnt, only i dont know how) | Nov 08 10:37 |
| MinceR | strange i seem to recall that the argument that gaming journalism as a whole was corrupt hinged on how gaming "journalists" behaved, ont on zoe quinn | Nov 08 10:37 |
| MinceR | but i wasn't involved much in it, so i must be wrong about that | Nov 08 10:37 |
| mjg59_ | Oh I thought this branch of the conversation started because I complained that the criticism here looked more like Gamergate | Nov 08 10:37 |
| MinceR | and yeah, mjg59_ brought up the whole thing | Nov 08 10:38 |
| MinceR | s/ont/not/ | Nov 08 10:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | because I complained that the criticism here looked more like Gamergate <- you brought up gamergate yes | Nov 08 10:38 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, sorry, I thought the counter to that was suggesting that my own behaviour looked like Gamergate | Nov 08 10:38 |
| MinceR | if your "argument" is that something "looks like" something else, you need to come up with a better argument | Nov 08 10:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | I thought the counter to that was suggesting that my own behaviour looked like Gamergate <- someone may have said so | Nov 08 10:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | fair enouguh | Nov 08 10:38 |
| MinceR | i'm sorry that i have to explain this to mr. genius. | Nov 08 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | dr. genius | Nov 08 10:39 |
| MinceR | dr. supragenius | Nov 08 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | If Roy can insist on it, why can't I | Nov 08 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dr. asparagus | Nov 08 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | j/k I really don't care | Nov 08 10:39 |
| MinceR | have i called him dr. Roy? | Nov 08 10:39 |
| MinceR | i don't think i have | Nov 08 10:39 |
| mjg59_ | Dunno | Nov 08 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i never asked anyone to call me doctor | Nov 08 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ does that | Nov 08 10:39 |
| MinceR | i keep forgetting everyone's doctorates | Nov 08 10:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a sign of insecurity | Nov 08 10:39 |
| MinceR | yeah | Nov 08 10:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me is a doctor but only on paper / for laughs | Nov 08 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: You call yourself Dr everywhere | Nov 08 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | Even on Linkedin | Nov 08 10:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont ever use it | Nov 08 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | Who the fuck does that on Linkedin | Nov 08 10:40 |
| MinceR | who the fuck uses linkedin | Nov 08 10:40 |
| MinceR | and why | Nov 08 10:40 |
| mjg59_ | Right? | Nov 08 10:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | dr. linkedin | Nov 08 10:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i created an account there in 2006 because a colleague told me to | Nov 08 10:41 |
| MinceR | who the fuck uses anything from MICROS~1 | Nov 08 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: When did you graduate? | Nov 08 10:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | who the fuck uses anything from MICROS~1 <- everybody because of fucking firmware | Nov 08 10:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it has been largely the same for well over a decade, way before microsoft even touched it | Nov 08 10:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 10:41 |
| MinceR | fucking TianoCore | Nov 08 10:41 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: It's actually possible to build UEFI firmware with no Microsoft code | Nov 08 10:41 |
| psydruid | a MICROS~1 tool does | Nov 08 10:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: When did you graduate? <- ask the registrar | Nov 08 10:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know, it says intHell on it everywhere | Nov 08 10:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | with no Microsoft code <- yeah but who pushed for it | Nov 08 10:42 |
| MinceR | it's merely a coincidence that it uses MICROS~1 formats and practices _everywhere_ | Nov 08 10:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: When did you graduate? <- ask the registrar <- this is a great idea | Nov 08 10:42 |
| MinceR | like PE and FAT and keeping the hw clock set to local time | Nov 08 10:42 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah you're stuck with a shitload of Intel code | Nov 08 10:42 |
| MinceR | 08 114145 < mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: It's actually possible to build UEFI firmware with no Microsoft code | Nov 08 10:42 |
| mjg59_ | And Microsoft specs | Nov 08 10:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's possible to implement the spec on your own | Nov 08 10:42 |
| MinceR | nobody does. | Nov 08 10:42 |
| mjg59_ | But you don't need to use Microsoft code | Nov 08 10:43 |
| MinceR | and it isn't even practical | Nov 08 10:43 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: u-boot has a spec-compliant implementation that uses no Tiano | Nov 08 10:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me would rather like to boycott uefi altogether | Nov 08 10:43 |
| MinceR | UEFI is such a gargantuan ball of bloat it would take forever | Nov 08 10:43 |
| *MinceR would like to boycott it too | Nov 08 10:43 | |
| *psydruid boycotts UEFI altogether | Nov 08 10:43 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <psydruid> ACTION boycotts UEFI altogether <- with what? | Nov 08 10:44 |
| MinceR | along with the likes of IME, PSP, TZ and ThreadX | Nov 08 10:44 |
| MinceR | but i can't, because mjg59_'s benefactors killed our industry. | Nov 08 10:44 |
| psydruid | on my ARM SBC I use u-boot | Nov 08 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | haha | Nov 08 10:44 |
| mjg59_ | Everyone should be free to run the firmware of their choice on their hardware | Nov 08 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I started my thesis 2015 | Nov 08 10:44 |
| psydruid | on x86 you're SOL, but I don't care about that architecture | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | turns out that's one year after mjg had started a phd | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so I was ahead of him | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and he is abotu 5 years my senior | Nov 08 10:45 |
| MinceR | on ARM you're also SOL, afaict | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sorry, I meant 2005 | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not 2015 | Nov 08 10:45 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah I quit my first PhD after they hassled me about using SSH | Nov 08 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so a year after he enrolled I already finished all my phd work and focused on the thesis | Nov 08 10:45 |
| mjg59_ | And spent a while working on accessibility software | Nov 08 10:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ok | Nov 08 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | And contributing to various free software projects | Nov 08 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | And then started another in 2004 | Nov 08 10:46 |
| psydruid | ARM is not the end game, but I don't have (fully free) RISC-V hardware yet | Nov 08 10:46 |
| mjg59_ | Also a major depressive episode in there | Nov 08 10:46 |
| techrights-news | The need to "Save Ponds" ☛ https://therevelator.org/ponds-biodiversity-climate/ | Source: The Revelator | Nov 08 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | Why Scientists Are Rallying to Save Ponds • The Revelator | Nov 08 10:46 | |
| MinceR | makes me wonder if they were actually free software projects | Nov 08 10:46 |
| MinceR | or just open source licensed ones | Nov 08 10:46 |
| MinceR | systemd doesn't respect our freedom | Nov 08 10:47 |
| mjg59_ | But got through all of that and was lucky enough to get into another PhD program | Nov 08 10:47 |
| MinceR | UEFI doesn't respect our freedom | Nov 08 10:47 |
| psydruid | still not having to deal with UEFI is a plus for me | Nov 08 10:47 |
| MinceR | shithub doesn't respect our freedom | Nov 08 10:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> makes me wonder if they were actually free software projects <- even roy likes his acpi work | Nov 08 10:47 |
| MinceR | gnome doesn't respect our freedom | Nov 08 10:47 |
| techrights-news | "Freedom of Information Act" ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/johnson-amendment-violation-examples too bad Pro Publica takes bribes from Bill Gates, who opposes transparency and relishes in bribery | Nov 08 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | 20 Examples of Johnson Amendment Violations, Experts Say — ProPublica | Nov 08 10:47 | |
| MinceR | acpi doesn't respect our freedom either | Nov 08 10:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | yeah but that wasnt mjgs fault | Nov 08 10:47 |
| techrights-news | Alaa ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/eff-award-winner-alaa-abd-el-fattah | Source: EFF | Nov 08 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Award Winner: Alaa Abd El-Fattah | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Nov 08 10:48 | |
| MinceR | hell, afaik your kernel pretty much _has_ to pretend it's Backdoors if you want the hardware to work at all | Nov 08 10:48 |
| MinceR | but no antitrust action was taken | Nov 08 10:48 |
| MinceR | because the governments support the megacorporations that killed our industry. | Nov 08 10:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | antitrust and war crimes tribunals dont work on its basically microsoft | Nov 08 10:48 |
| MinceR | and while they claim to take our sovereignty in part to uphold an alleged free market, the free market continues to be absent. | Nov 08 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | only a revolution could hope to stop them | Nov 08 10:49 |
| psydruid | killing that industry is not a bad thing? | Nov 08 10:49 |
| mjg59_ | I'll admit that I've taken the side of "Make this work so people can benefit" rather than "Pretend it's impossible so maybe a court will take our side" | Nov 08 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | killing that industry is not a bad thing? <- only wishing them death :) | Nov 08 10:49 |
| psydruid | maybe that industry should just die? | Nov 08 10:49 |
| MinceR | if we had a replacement, it wouldn't be | Nov 08 10:49 |
| MinceR | but making an integrated circuit at home is _hard_ | Nov 08 10:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | I'll admit that I've taken the side of "Make this work so people can benefit" rather than "Pretend it's impossible so maybe a court will take our side" <- there are pros and cons of both approaches | Nov 08 10:50 |
| MinceR | and in the end, we'll all die anyway because the human species is a fucking failure | Nov 08 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | the con of your approach is they get to keep changing the rules and we dance for them | Nov 08 10:50 |
| psydruid | making an integrated circuit at home should become dead simple | Nov 08 10:50 |
| mjg59_ | It's cool, we'll replace existing hardware with improved Z80s running code that only builds with tcc | Nov 08 10:50 |
| MinceR | we'll die out as a species, not only as individuals | Nov 08 10:50 |
| psydruid | that's the kind of industry I want | Nov 08 10:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | It's cool, we'll replace existing hardware with improved Z80s running code that only builds with tcc <- if not for this channel, that w3ould be a strawman :) | Nov 08 10:50 |
| MinceR | i doubt i can afford to even do the Z80 thing, as the thing my X60s is too slow to run definitely won't run on a Z80 | Nov 08 10:51 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: If someone came up with a coherent strategy to prevent the corporations from just changing the rules I'd go with that, but that's not what's been presented | Nov 08 10:51 |
| MinceR | plus i don't like having application errors corrupt kernel memory | Nov 08 10:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | but that's not what's been presented <- freedom is taken more often than its agreed upon | Nov 08 10:51 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: And in the absence of that, I'd rather ensure that people can take advantage of what's available rather than deny them that in the hope that in the future we'll find a better way | Nov 08 10:51 |
| mjg59_ | If someone convinces me there's a better way? I'm on it. | Nov 08 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | i would say that sometimes its better to refuse to play by their rules | Nov 08 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | than to make everything work their way | Nov 08 10:52 |
| MinceR | for that, you don't have to pretend what you're helping to support is actually an improvement over what it replaces | Nov 08 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | note i said sometimes | Nov 08 10:52 |
| mjg59_ | If it were just me, sure | Nov 08 10:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | especially if its not just you | Nov 08 10:52 |
| MinceR | you don't have to advertise how great and "secure" it is, when it isn't | Nov 08 10:52 |
| mjg59_ | But it's "Can people buy a laptop that's on the market and run a Free OS on it" | Nov 08 10:53 |
| psydruid | it's better to not use devices than to use backdoored and malicious ones | Nov 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | you don't have to pretend it wasn't invented to strengthen MICROS~1's stranglehold on the ruins of the IT industry either. | Nov 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | but all this should be trivial for dr. supragenius | Nov 08 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | <psydruid> it's better to not use devices than to use backdoored and malicious ones <- mostly yes, as a rule yes | Nov 08 10:53 |
| mjg59_ | Cool we can insist that you don't get to benefit from free software unless you buy a specific Chinese MIPS laptop | Nov 08 10:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | im crazy enough to consider exceptions. but they should be exceptions | Nov 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | 08 115301 < mjg59_> But it's "Can people buy a laptop that's on the market and run a Free OS on it" | Nov 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | sure you can, as long as you don't mind a ton of really crappy nonfree code also running on it | Nov 08 10:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | we can insist that you don't get to benefit from free software unless you buy a specific Chinese MIPS laptop <- that was never the position of the fsf | Nov 08 10:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | again youre doing the framing thing | Nov 08 10:54 |
| mjg59_ | Sure I'm exaggerating for effect | Nov 08 10:54 |
| MinceR | and maybe having to take the thing apart with torx screwdrivers and spudgers so you can make it boot | Nov 08 10:54 |
| techrights-news | Radiation ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/dosimetry-measuring-radiation/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dosimetry: Measuring Radiation | Hackaday | Nov 08 10:54 | |
| MinceR | this was all easier before UEFI | Nov 08 10:54 |
| mjg59_ | But some of that is the FSF framing a certain level of non-free code as acceptable under certain circumstances | Nov 08 10:54 |
| MinceR | and more reliable | Nov 08 10:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> Sure I'm exaggerating for effect <- youre too good at it. you know if you do it often enough they make you a senator. some people (even you) might consider that even worse than working for microsoft | Nov 08 10:55 |
| MinceR | the FSF pretends that there's only Total Lack of Freedom and Perfect Freedom | Nov 08 10:55 |
| psydruid | exaggerating for maximum distraction | Nov 08 10:55 |
| MinceR | and they lump a lot of crap in the latter that doesn't belong there | Nov 08 10:55 |
| mjg59_ | Urrrgh I promise you as someone who has dealt with BIOS that UEFI is not significantly worse | Nov 08 10:55 |
| techrights-news | Disinformation ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/turkeys-new-disinformation-law-spells-trouble-free-expression | EFF endorsing Microsoft (DDG) crap is ALSO "Disinformation" | Nov 08 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Turkey's New Disinformation Law Spells Trouble For Free Expression | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Nov 08 10:55 | |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> the FSF pretends <- that it still exists | Nov 08 10:55 |
| MinceR | "i promise you" as someone who's been running free OS-es on PC-s for decades that UEFI is significantly worse | Nov 08 10:55 |
| MinceR | i never had to take apart a non-UEFI PC to make it bootable again. | Nov 08 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> But some of that is the FSF framing a certain level of non-free code as acceptable under certain circumstances <- that one bothers a lot of people, including me | Nov 08 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | ive made a devils advocate argument for it | Nov 08 10:56 |
| MinceR | i never had to try to use a jumper or to disconnect a battery to erase BIOS settings before UEFI either. | Nov 08 10:56 |
| mjg59_ | I'm running UEFI on this machine that involves literally the same amount of non-free software that BIOS would use on this machine | Nov 08 10:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | but its a strategic argument based on things chnaging | Nov 08 10:56 |
| techrights-news | "As of today, nodejs14 as well as any older nodejs versions will no longer receive updates in openSUSE Leap 15.4." ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/11/07/nodejs14-eol-leap/ | Source: OpenSUSE | Nov 08 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | No more updates for nodejs14, below in Leap 15.4 - openSUSE News | Nov 08 10:56 | |
| MinceR | the first PC i've ever had that has no CSM, i had to take apart and disconnect the SSD so i could unbrick it | Nov 08 10:56 |
| MinceR | and the firmware bug is still there | Nov 08 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> i never had to take apart a non-UEFI PC to make it bootable again. <- ive never bricked a bios without literally frying a component | Nov 08 10:57 |
| MinceR | and if some malicious software were to create one efivar for every M.2 port and for every USB port, it would be completely bricked. | Nov 08 10:57 |
| techrights-news | "Late last week, Z-Library lost control over its main domain names." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/z-library-aftermath-reveals-that-the-feds-seized-dozens-of-domain-names-221107/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Nov 08 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Z-Library Aftermath Reveals The Feds Seized Dozens of Domain Names * TorrentFreak | Nov 08 10:57 | |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, and I've had to deal with reinstalling grub because I moved a hard drive and it ended up with a different BIOS boot number | Nov 08 10:57 |
| MinceR | and if it did have CSM, i could boot it in such a way that software wouldn't have access to efivars | Nov 08 10:57 |
| MinceR | but it doesn't, so i can't | Nov 08 10:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | and it ended up with a different BIOS boot number <- doesnt grub have a mode that lets you fix that by simply typing something | Nov 08 10:58 |
| mjg59_ | Ignoring all the bullshit with grub skipping the BIOS entry point so you couldn't use EDD to identify drive numbers before installing it | Nov 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | you can reinstall grub by booting off USB | Nov 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | my laptop wouldn't boot off USB | Nov 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | the firmware would crash before i could tell it to, or enter setup. | Nov 08 10:58 |
| mjg59_ | So you literally couldn't install grub correctly without making guesses about the BIOS | Nov 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | because UEFI is an overcomplicated piece of shit that nobody could make work properly | Nov 08 10:58 |
| mjg59_ | And, then, well, lilo | Nov 08 10:58 |
| mjg59_ | Fucking joke of a bootloader | Nov 08 10:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | had to start somewhere | Nov 08 10:58 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, but should have been dead by 1993 | Nov 08 10:59 |
| psydruid | BIOS is a crappy implementation of a system firmware | Nov 08 10:59 |
| mjg59_ | Look BIOS fucking sucked | Nov 08 10:59 |
| MinceR | also, afaict the whole bullshit about "you don't get to enter setup" is also a UEFI "feature" | Nov 08 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | the bootsector did what originally | Nov 08 10:59 |
| techrights-news | iophk: [devuan-based peppermint] still no torrent. all the download files should have been in place days ago https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/11/07/peppermint-debian-devuan/ | Nov 08 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-muylinux-com.translate.goog | Peppermint asienta sus cambios con un nuevo lanzamiento | Nov 08 10:59 | |
| psydruid | UEFI is an even crappier one | Nov 08 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | it was more of a pointer | Nov 08 10:59 |
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| mjg59_ | We shouldn't romanticise it | Nov 08 10:59 |
| psydruid | this industry just loves selling mediocre crap | Nov 08 10:59 |
| mjg59_ | It was no Open Firmware | Nov 08 10:59 |
| mjg59_ | Nobody ever wrote a song about BIOS | Nov 08 10:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | george washington sucked. thankfully now we have trump, biden and pnac | Nov 08 11:00 |
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| MinceR | you shouldn't romanticise UEFI | Nov 08 11:00 |
| techrights-news | iophk: canonical ought to be out making hay with this www.computerworld.com/article/3678853/for-windows-8-the-end-is-near.html | Nov 08 11:00 |
| mjg59_ | If they had it would be 150 bpm death metal and at the end you get sprayed with blood | Nov 08 11:00 |
| MinceR | UEFI is badly designed, badly implemented and the whole intention behind it is evil | Nov 08 11:00 |
| techrights-news | iophk: fails to even mention Linux Mint or any other GNU/Linux distro www.pcworld.com/article/398720/best-free-antivirus.html | Nov 08 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | Nobody ever wrote a song about BIOS <- they did though | Nov 08 11:00 |
| MinceR | so, UEFI is like systemd | Nov 08 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | it was two beeps | Nov 08 11:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | not much of a song | Nov 08 11:01 |
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| MinceR | it exists to take our freedom away | Nov 08 11:01 |
| MinceR | reptilian_thrills: they should have gotten hp to do it | Nov 08 11:01 |
| mjg59_ | A lot of UEFI's bullshit is because of x86 architectural design (and, uh, to be fair ACPI) | Nov 08 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | not to take it away | Nov 08 11:01 |
| techrights-news | ZDNet trying not to smear GNU/Linux this one time https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-is-not-just-for-developers-and-command-line-pros/ | Nov 08 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux is not just for developers and command line pros | ZDNET | Nov 08 11:01 | |
| MinceR | they made their UEFI firmware play a little song when you enter the admin password | Nov 08 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | to NUDGE it towards corporate freedom in lieu of ours | Nov 08 11:01 |
| mjg59_ | You have two phases of UEFI because on system resume you need to re-init the hardware before passing control back to the OS | Nov 08 11:01 |
| MinceR | they couldn't make "legacy" boot entries actually work, though | Nov 08 11:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | like a bulldozer | Nov 08 11:01 |
| MinceR | but, you know, they did the important part. | Nov 08 11:01 |
| techrights-news | This is an attack on GNU/Linux users; they get to CLAIMS it's "supported" in Linux (not really) https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-teams-pwa-is-now-available-on-linux/ | Nov 08 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Microsoft Teams PWA is now available on Linux - Neowin | Nov 08 11:01 | |
| mjg59_ | So there's the "Init enough for the OS" phase, which on initial boot is then followed by "Init enough for the bootloader" | Nov 08 11:02 |
| techrights-news | iophk: probably tied to bayer/monsanto cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsoft-launches-project-on-agri-tech-in-baramati/95368887 | Nov 08 11:02 |
| mjg59_ | And in BIOS there was no clear distinction between those, so implementations were just weird | Nov 08 11:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | (and, uh, to be fair ACPI <- i like that acpi sucks so hard that it actually made FUTURE encroachments on users worse | Nov 08 11:02 |
| MinceR | most of the UEFI's bullshit is because it is MICROS~1's vehicle for Restricted Boot, which was invented to lock our PCs into Backdoors | Nov 08 11:02 |
| mjg59_ | Oh all the worst bits of UEFI predate that | Nov 08 11:02 |
| techrights-news | iophk: twitter only ever used "verification" as endorsement | Nov 08 11:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | most of the UEFI's bullshit is because it is MICROS~1's vehicle for Restricted Boot <- is it? i thought because it was an overengineered bloated piece of shit | Nov 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, they didn't brag about their intentions early on | Nov 08 11:03 |
| mjg59_ | That didn't turn up in the spec at all until 2010, and by then we were already fucked | Nov 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | what a fucking surprise, that. | Nov 08 11:03 |
| techrights-news | The musk falls off https://boingboing.net/2022/11/07/elon-musk-uses-twitter-to-tell-independents-vote-for-a-republican.html | Nov 08 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Elon Musk uses Twitter to tell Independents: "Vote for a Republican" | Boing Boing | Nov 08 11:03 | |
| MinceR | and i'm expected to be naive about this | Nov 08 11:03 |
| mjg59_ | UEFI is a perfect example of how companies like Intel promote people | Nov 08 11:03 |
| techrights-news | windows tco nytimes.com/2022/11/07/business/cuny-jobs-tech.html | Nov 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | "oh, hey, i know MICROS~1 has done everything they could to take all your freedom away, but JUST THIS ONE TIME it's different, i swear!" | Nov 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | fuck you. | Nov 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | and fuck intHell too. | Nov 08 11:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | JUST THIS ONE TIME it's differen <- ofc | Nov 08 11:04 |
| MinceR | they couldn't even be bothered to support some sane filesystem or executable formate. | Nov 08 11:04 |
| MinceR | s/ate/at/ | Nov 08 11:04 |
| MinceR | it has to be blatantly ALL MICROS~1 ALL THE WAY | Nov 08 11:04 |
| mjg59_ | Those design decisions come from the 90s | Nov 08 11:04 |
| MinceR | and i'm supposed to believe it wasn't designed to screw me | Nov 08 11:04 |
| MinceR | "design decision" is giving them too much credit | Nov 08 11:04 |
| techrights-news | aclu https://www.aclu-tn.org/aclu-tn-victorious-lawsuit-protect-davidson-county-voters-wake-ballot-errors/ | Nov 08 11:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> "oh, hey, i know MICROS~1 has done everything they could to take all your freedom away, but JUST THIS ONE TIME it's different <- https://www.angryflower.com/384.html | Nov 08 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aclu-tn.org | ACLU-TN Victorious in Lawsuit to Protect Davidson County Voters in Wake of Ballot Errors - ACLU of Tennessee | Nov 08 11:05 | |
| MinceR | also, wasn't the big selling point about UEFI how "modern" and new and shiny and "hip" and "cool" it was? | Nov 08 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.angryflower.com | Bob the Angry Flower - Good Hitler | Nov 08 11:05 | |
| mjg59_ | At the point they were designing EFI, Linux just wasn't an enterprise thing | Nov 08 11:05 |
| MinceR | but it was impossible to improve on design decisions from the 90s? | Nov 08 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | What *was* a thing was proprietary UNIX | Nov 08 11:05 |
| MinceR | yeah, how MICROS~1 and dehomag regret that it isn't anymore | Nov 08 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | And HP and IBM and SGI just went along with that | Nov 08 11:05 |
| MinceR | 3 whole OS vendors? | Nov 08 11:06 |
| MinceR | unthinkable today. | Nov 08 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | The same vendors who'd tried to get Windows NT running on their hardware | Nov 08 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | So they were all already friendly with using MS specs | Nov 08 11:06 |
| MinceR | today MICROS~1 gets to show its siamese twin crApple to the government and say, "see, we _do_ have competition!" | Nov 08 11:06 |
| MinceR | and then they get to do to us whatever they feel like. | Nov 08 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | Linux was still trying to support SMP | Nov 08 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | If it had happened even like three years later, things would probably have looked very different | Nov 08 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | But free software just didn't have a seat at the table then | Nov 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | it never did | Nov 08 11:07 |
| *techuser has quit (connection closed) | Nov 08 11:07 | |
| MinceR | it still doesn't | Nov 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | systemd/Linux is not free software | Nov 08 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | A shitload of UEFI design decisions since then have been driven by free software | Nov 08 11:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | free software just didn't have a seat at the table then <- but microsoft has seats at lf and osi | Nov 08 11:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | and every distro the fsf promotes except one | Nov 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | yeah | Nov 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | specifically by the desire to _extinguish_ free software | Nov 08 11:08 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Whoever gets there first and still survives tends to maintain influence in a wider space | Nov 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | we can't buy a PC without UEFI specifically to make it more difficult or impossible to run free software on a PC | Nov 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | occasionally MICROS~1 even admitted this | Nov 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | in email, they talked about "whacking" dHell for offering another OS as a preinstalled option | Nov 08 11:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | Whoever gets there first and still survives tends to maintain influence in a wider space <- stating a fact doesnt make it good (or even inevitable) | Nov 08 11:09 |
| mjg59_ | Eh the primary economic reason was that it was getting increasingly hard to find people who could write x86 assembly | Nov 08 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | thats just the way it is | Nov 08 11:09 |
| MinceR | did this make the government of the USA do anything to make the PC OS market free? fuck no. | Nov 08 11:09 |
| mjg59_ | Vendors were happy to shift to an environment where they could hire C programmers | Nov 08 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | some thingsll never change | Nov 08 11:09 |
| MinceR | they took people's money and freedom and gave nothing for it. | Nov 08 11:09 |
| MinceR | the "social contract" is a fucking scam, always was. | Nov 08 11:09 |
| reptilian_thrills | antisocial | Nov 08 11:10 |
| techrights-news | "Want to get the Wii U emulator Cemu working on Linux? It's now a little easier, as they've providing an AppImage" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/cemu-emulator-for-wii-u-now-provides-an-appimage/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cemu emulator for Wii U now provides an AppImage | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:10 | |
| MinceR | i can still write x86 assembly | Nov 08 11:10 |
| techrights-news | "GE-Proton is the community-maintained version of the Windows compatibility layer Proton" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/ge-proton-7-39-released-improving-overwatch-2-for-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GE-Proton 7-39 released improving Overwatch 2 for Steam Deck & Linux | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:10 | |
| reptilian_thrills | Whoever gets there first and still survives tends to maintain influence in a wider space <- at a certain point this violates antitrust law, but its hard to find unicorns these days | Nov 08 11:11 |
| psydruid | I can do so too, I'd rather prefer not to | Nov 08 11:11 |
| MinceR | i'd rather write x86 assembly than give money for hardware i don't get to own | Nov 08 11:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | the beatings will continue until the free hardware movement improves | Nov 08 11:11 |
| psydruid | I'd rather write RISC-V assembly | Nov 08 11:11 |
| mjg59_ | And yet we exist in a capitalist society | Nov 08 11:12 |
| *techuser (~techuser@cd8i9z2wmgmrn.irc) has joined #techrights | Nov 08 11:12 | |
| MinceR | and what do you mean by that? | Nov 08 11:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | And yet we exist in a capitalist society <- which is bollocks | Nov 08 11:12 |
| techrights-news | "Recently, I ran two different polls to find out how people with a Steam Deck used their device (or if they didn't much) and the results are out now" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/surprising-probably-no-one-most-people-use-the-steam-deck-as-a-handheld/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surprising probably no one, most people use the Steam Deck as a handheld | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:12 | |
| reptilian_thrills | /me doesnt think capitalism and free software can coexist | Nov 08 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | okay, fuck capitalism then | Nov 08 11:13 |
| psydruid | "you'll have to buy our hardware, it's our way or the highway" | Nov 08 11:13 |
| *MinceR doesn't think it's productive to use "capitalism" without a solid definition | Nov 08 11:13 | |
| reptilian_thrills | doesnt think capitalism and free software can coexist <- used to, ask me what happened | Nov 08 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> ACTION doesn't think it's productive to use "capitalism" without a solid definition | Nov 08 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | d | Nov 08 11:13 |
| reptilian_thrills | <- there is one, you reject it | Nov 08 11:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i think it's mistaking different domension | Nov 08 11:13 |
| MinceR | no, there are a million | Nov 08 11:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | capitalism is not against sharing | Nov 08 11:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | frree sofwtare is for sharing | Nov 08 11:14 |
| MinceR | and there's never any indication of which one people are using | Nov 08 11:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | i think it's mistaking <- no it isnt | Nov 08 11:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | software existed underc capitalism while schilars shared | Nov 08 11:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | universities that wewr capitalist | Nov 08 11:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> capitalism is not against sharing <- of course it is | Nov 08 11:14 |
| MinceR | ...at the moment | Nov 08 11:14 |
| psydruid | and yet we exist in a capitalist prison, just don't try to break out of it | Nov 08 11:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> capitalism is not against sharing <- this is beside the point anyway | Nov 08 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | capitalism concentrates power | Nov 08 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | right | Nov 08 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's an issue | Nov 08 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | this is at oodds with why free software exists | Nov 08 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but let's focus on what capitalism states or stands for | Nov 08 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | ut let's focus on what capitalism states or stands for <- how about no | Nov 08 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | how about instead, we look at what it actually does | Nov 08 11:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | and why that means it cant coexist with free software | Nov 08 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't think capitalism stands for monopoly either | Nov 08 11:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but de facto modern capitalism seems to | Nov 08 11:16 |
| psydruid | capitalism had to curb free software and did so | Nov 08 11:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | <psydruid> capitalism had to curb free software and did so <- to me thats enough reason | Nov 08 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | What I mean is that yes I'd rather we had differnt and more equitable outcomes, but we don't get to simply get those outcomes because a bunch of people with more money have more influence in them | Nov 08 11:16 |
| psydruid | but it was also free software's flaw to be so easy to control | Nov 08 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | What I *will* say is that free software has had a louder voice in some of these decision making processes than I expected | Nov 08 11:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | 1. look at what capitalism did to watson, ballmer and musk 2. look at what it did to manning, assange and stallman | Nov 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | LT had CNN pulls this trap on him | Nov 08 11:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | i dont know what else you even need to know about this | Nov 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | asking if he was a socialist or something | Nov 08 11:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because of his father he needs to be cautious answering that | Nov 08 11:17 |
| MinceR | i am against sharing my home with random strangers | Nov 08 11:17 |
| MinceR | i guess that makes me a bad person | Nov 08 11:17 |
| psydruid | something that is truly owned and written by the masses can never be controlled | Nov 08 11:17 |
| reptilian_thrills | unfortunately, stallman is barely a socialist | Nov 08 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | Like, free software isn't incompatible with capitalism | Nov 08 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | But it's running at a disadvantage | Nov 08 11:17 |
| MinceR | i am also against sharing my personal workstation with random strangers | Nov 08 11:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: that's "property rights" | Nov 08 11:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | free software isn't incompatible with capitalism <- no, capitalism is just incompatible with humanity and anything sustainable | Nov 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | as it's a means of production, that probably makes me even more of a bad person | Nov 08 11:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not ther same as the financial system | Nov 08 11:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | more like governance principle | Nov 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | 08 121710 < mjg59_> What I *will* say is that free software has had a louder voice in some of these decision making processes than I expected | Nov 08 11:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | i am also against sharing my personal workstation with random strangers <- thats personal property, even most communists dont have an issue with that | Nov 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what MICROS~1 paid you to say | Nov 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | while they got everything they wanted until there was backlash against one of their Backdoors logo sticker requirements | Nov 08 11:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | reptilian_thrills: clown computing | Nov 08 11:19 |
| MinceR | which set them back for a short bit | Nov 08 11:19 |
| techrights-news | "SCS Soft have announced the big American Truck Simulator - Texas DLC will be releasing on November 15th." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/american-truck-simulator-texas-releases-on-november-15th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-American Truck Simulator - Texas releases on November 15th | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Plot of the Druid has released featuring some more sarcastic British humour" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/comedy-point-and-click-adventure-plot-of-the-druid-is-now-in-early-access/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comedy point and click adventure Plot of the Druid is now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:20 | |
| MinceR | > humanity and anything sustainable | Nov 08 11:20 |
| MinceR | humanity is not sustainable | Nov 08 11:20 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 11:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: depends | Nov 08 11:20 |
| MinceR | even the corpses won't last forever | Nov 08 11:20 |
| MinceR | neither will the monuments | Nov 08 11:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as hunter gatherers I think we stood better chance at LONG-TERM sruvival | Nov 08 11:20 |
| MinceR | yeah | Nov 08 11:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even if humans didn't live long back then | Nov 08 11:21 |
| MinceR | we could get close to the point when the Sun blows away our atmosphere and dries up our oceans | Nov 08 11:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | poking sticks at fruit and animals | Nov 08 11:21 |
| MinceR | as we stand now, we won't get nearly as close | Nov 08 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | as hunter gatherers I think we stood better chance at LONG-TERM sruvival <- well, no | Nov 08 11:21 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: I know it's an easy opinion to hold, but seriously, MS has not paid me to say anything | Nov 08 11:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | because without civilisation we probably never would have developed the means to escape the sun exploding | Nov 08 11:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | instead of building mega-platforms that suck trillions of litres of oil from under the ground | Nov 08 11:21 |
| MinceR | if humans were as intelligent as they advertise themselves (parallel with mjg59_), we'd have a chance of leaving the planet before the Sun kills us, and we could spread between multiple solar systems | Nov 08 11:22 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: I appreciate that it may involve you thinking less of me, but I promise that I hold these opinions for free | Nov 08 11:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | not that i love civilisation, its basically a nice way to say colonialism | Nov 08 11:22 |
| MinceR | reptilian_thrills: yeah, civilization would be nice to have | Nov 08 11:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> reptilian_thrills: yeah, civilization would be nice to hav <- ah, then it wouldnt be civilisation | Nov 08 11:22 |
| MinceR | it isn't | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: I don't remember how long we have until the SUn expands, but it's a LOT | Nov 08 11:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | and if it was, it wouldnt be | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from memory, the planet is 4 billion years | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | life about 1 billion | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and humans 150,000 | Nov 08 11:23 |
| reptilian_thrills | but it's a LOT <- you said LONG TERM you didnt say how long | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | depends on what "counts" as human | Nov 08 11:23 |
| MinceR | schestowitz[TR]: about 1 billion years until we're without an atmosphere, about 5 until the Earth's current orbit is absorbed by the Sun | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and sun expands in billions of years from now | Nov 08 11:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe 6? | Nov 08 11:23 |
| MinceR | 5 | Nov 08 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | about 1 billion years until we're without an atmosphere <- so we should probably get moving | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | it probably starts before then | Nov 08 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ok, I checked a while ago | Nov 08 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was 6 billions then | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | we should have gotten moving a few decades ago | Nov 08 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nit's 5 now | Nov 08 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | the good news is i think we can get out of the solar system | Nov 08 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I ages a little ;-) | Nov 08 11:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *aged | Nov 08 11:24 |
| mjg59_ | It's cool, Elon says we'll be on Mars by the end of the year | Nov 08 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | the bad news is, we had to bomb japan first | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | we should have at least stopped boiling ourselves on a planet we can't escape | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | but no | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | yeah, elon can suffocate on mars by the end of the year | Nov 08 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | we should have at least stopped boiling ourselves on a planet we can't escape <- still possible | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | we can't even fix earth and elon is dreaming about terraforming mars | Nov 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | laughable. | Nov 08 11:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | self-driving mars | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's posing for attention | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | why rich people speaak about space | Nov 08 11:25 |
| mjg59_ | I'm willing to believe that climate change is going to destroy existing civilisation and result in billions of deaths | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (even ones who don't grasp basic science) | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 1) vanity/status | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 2) hobby | Nov 08 11:25 |
| mjg59_ | I doubt it'll actually wipe out humanity | Nov 08 11:25 |
| MinceR | it can't, because we can't build civilization until then | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 3) attention | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 4) legacy | Nov 08 11:25 |
| reptilian_thrills | I'm willing to believe that climate change is going to destroy existing civilisation and result in billions of deaths <- it could do that | Nov 08 11:25 |
| MinceR | and global warming isn't the only thing we're doing to ourselves | Nov 08 11:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 5) fantasy about eternal life, connected to narcissism (they need to stand out SOMEHOW) | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | travling to mares is infeasable atm | Nov 08 11:26 |
| MinceR | we developed WMDs and handed them out to religious fundamentalist zealots whose religion "teaches" them not to mind everybody dying | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for humans | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even just getting there is hard | Nov 08 11:26 |
| mjg59_ | The worst case scenarios still result in habitable portions of the world - unless it triggers apocalyptic military conflict for those, people will survive | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | staying there is a lot harder | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | coming back almost impossible | Nov 08 11:26 |
| MinceR | we developed all the ideologies that suggest that we should split humanity into 2 factions, have one kill the other off, and repeat | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you need a rocket just to get out of its gravty | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you need a rocket to carry another rokcte | Nov 08 11:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for the round trip | Nov 08 11:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | The worst case scenarios still result in habitable portions of the world <- as long as theres an atmosphere | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the whole thing is sci-fi BS | Nov 08 11:27 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the habitable portion will be in global nuclear winter | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while people go broke and hungary at home | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hungry | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or hungary | Nov 08 11:27 |
| MinceR | some part of the atmosphere above the soot? | Nov 08 11:27 |
| mjg59_ | We could set fire to pretty much everything and there'd still be enough oxygen to sustain life | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | almost the same thing now | Nov 08 11:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | thanks, orban | Nov 08 11:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | the whole thing is sci-fi BS <- thats what they say about the moon landing too | Nov 08 11:27 |
| reptilian_thrills | even after it was accomplished | Nov 08 11:28 |
| MinceR | some people still say it was faked | Nov 08 11:28 |
| MinceR | because humanity is a failure | Nov 08 11:28 |
| mjg59_ | I want to make it clear that the fact that we're the sort of people who are sitting on IRC right now means we're probably not going to be in the set of people who survive | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <reptilian_thrills> the whole thing is sci-fi BS <- thats what they say about the moon landing too | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which part? | Nov 08 11:28 |
| MinceR | that's easy to say | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the soviets crashing objects into the moon? | Nov 08 11:28 |
| MinceR | since that set is the empty set | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or the US sending a man there | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or several | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | after soviets sent a dog to space | Nov 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lykha | Nov 08 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | iirc, it died | Nov 08 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like putin's army | Nov 08 11:29 |
| mjg59_ | But you don't need *that* many people to have a wide enough gene pool to repopulate over a sufficiently long time | Nov 08 11:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> or the US sending a man ther <- the moon landing in july 1969 | Nov 08 11:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | But you don't need *that* many people to have a wide enough gene pool to repopulate over a sufficiently long time <- consolation prize | Nov 08 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah, but it was a short an expensive trip | Nov 08 11:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | it would be nice to save humanity without destroying it first | Nov 08 11:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fly, take selfies, hop around, take some "video in portrait mode", fly back | Nov 08 11:30 |
| MinceR | and even if that happens, that's still a gene pool that consists of human genes | Nov 08 11:30 |
| MinceR | so, still doomed to fail | Nov 08 11:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | all this just to "prove" the pre-gaegan system worked better | Nov 08 11:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *Reagan | Nov 08 11:30 |
| MinceR | still the same defenselessness against memetic pathogens | Nov 08 11:30 |
| MinceR | still the same stupidity | Nov 08 11:30 |
| MinceR | still the same evilness | Nov 08 11:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | boston uni now develops enhancd covid-19 | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which they say is 50 times more lethal than wuhamn virus | Nov 08 11:31 |
| MinceR | still the same incompatibility with the idea of civilization | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just to make a point | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the lab | Nov 08 11:31 |
| MinceR | nice | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not speculation | Nov 08 11:31 |
| MinceR | they could wipe us all out and maybe spare some eukaryotes for a while | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they published a paper about how they did it | Nov 08 11:31 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Uh they literally didn't say that | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fist author is chinese name | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which I found ironic | Nov 08 11:31 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, SARS-CoV-2 is good at infecting all sorts of mammals | Nov 08 11:31 |
| MinceR | so it would probably wipe them all out | Nov 08 11:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: they tested on rats | Nov 08 11:32 |
| MinceR | but at least plants could survive for a while | Nov 08 11:32 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: 100% of the rats died with original COVID-19 | Nov 08 11:32 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: 80% died with what they produced | Nov 08 11:32 |
| MinceR | and all sorts of non-mammal animals | Nov 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1 | Nov 08 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biorxiv.org | Role of spike in the pathogenic and antigenic behavior of SARS-CoV-2 BA.1 Omicron | bioRxiv | Nov 08 11:32 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.jax.org/strain/034860 | Nov 08 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jax.org | 034860 - K18-hACE2 Strain Details | Nov 08 11:33 | |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: They compared against Omicron - the virus they produced was more effective at killing rats than Omicron was, but less effective than the original strain | Nov 08 11:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/vet_biologics/publications/notice_05_23.pdf | Nov 08 11:33 |
| mjg59_ | Dude you have a fucking PhD in biology why are you so bad at this | Nov 08 11:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | its not in biology | Nov 08 11:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | its in applied statistics | Nov 08 11:33 |
| reptilian_thrills | and he doesnt apply them | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not biology | Nov 08 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | Ok cool so you're not qualified to talk about biology | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I read half of mg's thesis | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in a hurry | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's about sequence analysis | Nov 08 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | In the same way I'm apparently not qualified to talk about CS | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dna | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I did analysis of brains mostly | Nov 08 11:34 |
| MinceR | 🍿 | Nov 08 11:34 |
| reptilian_thrills | <mjg59_> In the same way I'm apparently not qualified to talk about CS <- even if you apply it | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | image proicessing and statistical analysis of them | Nov 08 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | Awesome | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | neither of us is a GP | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | at least I have a CS degree | Nov 08 11:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and my phd was done in two facuilties | Nov 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. CS | Nov 08 11:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | fun fact, you have to be able to prescribe medicine to talk about biology. a phd in biology simply wont do | Nov 08 11:35 |
| mjg59_ | The BU research was about attempting to identify what aspects of COVID strains in the field related to how serious it was | Nov 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I ran large clusters of fedora in the labs overnight | Nov 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it was a lot of programming | Nov 08 11:35 |
| reptilian_thrills | medical doctors are the only ones that understand living organisms | Nov 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then orchestrating experiments | Nov 08 11:35 |
| mjg59_ | They took a strain of rat that, when exposed to the original Wuhan varient of COVID, died in 100% of cases | Nov 08 11:35 |
| mjg59_ | The same rat, when exposed to Omicron, died in far fewer cases | Nov 08 11:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | not the exact same one | Nov 08 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <mjg59_> Dude you have a fucking PhD in biology | Nov 08 11:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | obviously | Nov 08 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | medical biophysics | Nov 08 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not biology | Nov 08 11:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | unless they had a special lab rat that could die more than once | Nov 08 11:36 |
| reptilian_thrills | which would be really useful but probably expensive | Nov 08 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | They manipulated synthetic strains of Omicron to attempt to identify which aspects influenced mortality | Nov 08 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and made hybrids | Nov 08 11:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which were found to be more deadly | Nov 08 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so they gave pointers | Nov 08 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | And they found that turning specific bits of Omicron back into the Wuhan varient resulted in the mortaility getting close to the original strain | Nov 08 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to any other lab looking to weaponise the virus | Nov 08 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | at risk of also this one coming out of the lab | Nov 08 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in BU | Nov 08 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | Which gives us information about what actually makes COVID deadly | Nov 08 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | But doesn't let us make it *more* deadly | Nov 08 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | Because we already know the sequence of the original strain | Nov 08 11:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a manual for how making enhanced coronavirus | Nov 08 11:38 |
| mjg59_ | Anyone who wanted to weaponise it could just use the original strain | Nov 08 11:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and in the process they recreate or create new strains | Nov 08 11:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the lab | Nov 08 11:38 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me tries to figure out which doctor is better suited to creating british tabloids | Nov 08 11:38 |
| MinceR | what if we wanted it to be more deadly _and_ spread at least as well as omicron, though? | Nov 08 11:38 |
| mjg59_ | We don't need to make enhanced coronavirus because they made something that was no more effective than one that already existed! | Nov 08 11:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw, lateer oday ONS releases new data | Nov 08 11:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I really look forward to that every day | Nov 08 11:39 |
| reptilian_thrills | We don't need to make enhanced coronavirus because they made something that was no more effective than one that already existed <- or maybe the 5g rays are making you say that | Nov 08 11:39 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Omicron spreads because of immune evasion of original COVID, not because it's inherently more infectious | Nov 08 11:39 |
| MinceR | so what if we wanted it to be more deadly _and_ evade immunity to original SARS-CoV-2? | Nov 08 11:39 |
| mjg59_ | That's not what this research presented | Nov 08 11:39 |
| techrights-news | "The team behind OBS Studio announced that AMD have become a Diamond Sponsor of the OBS Project, helping fund future development." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/amd-becomes-a-diamond-sponsor-of-obs-studio/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD becomes a 'Diamond' sponsor of OBS Studio | GamingOnLinux | Nov 08 11:40 | |
| *schestowitz[TR] checks uk portals | Nov 08 11:40 | |
| mjg59_ | But if BU could come up with that in a few months, a government who wanted to could do it much faster | Nov 08 11:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 08 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | BU's a fine university | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh!! It's out already | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 11:40am | Nov 08 11:40 |
| reptilian_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> ACTION checks uk portals <- aperature science! | Nov 08 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | But it's not amazing | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "" | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Release date: | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 08 November 2022 | Nov 08 11:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales | Nov 08 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ons.gov.uk | Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics | Nov 08 11:40 | |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 08 11:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 49 dead infants in the week | Nov 08 11:41 |
| mjg59_ | The BU research didn't make a more deadly COVID, and it doesn't make it meaningfully easier for a bad actor to make a more deadly COVID | Nov 08 11:41 |
| reptilian_thrills | plot twist: humanity gets taken over by uefi nanobots instead | Nov 08 11:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 11:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I will plot some charts | Nov 08 11:42 |
| MinceR | 99% of the software installed on the nanobots is UEFI itself | Nov 08 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | but at least theyre not bios nanobots | Nov 08 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | those were fucking tedious | Nov 08 11:42 |
| mjg59_ | There's an entirely separate question of whether it was justifiable or ethical research! | Nov 08 11:42 |
| mjg59_ | I don't know enough to say | Nov 08 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | why wouldnt it be ethical? | Nov 08 11:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | what problem was there | Nov 08 11:43 |
| MinceR | i'm not worried by the knowledge they come up with | Nov 08 11:43 |
| MinceR | i'm worried by what this failed species will use it for | Nov 08 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Ethics boards are supposed to be involved with live virus research | Nov 08 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | Because what if it escapes blah blah blah | Nov 08 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | There's some suggestion that the paperwork in this case didn't accurately represent potential outcomes | Nov 08 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | I don't know whether that's true | Nov 08 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | I haven't read it | Nov 08 11:44 |
| mjg59_ | But 11:31 < schestowitz[TR]> which they say is 50 times more lethal than wuhamn virus | Nov 08 11:44 |
| mjg59_ | That's just untrue | Nov 08 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | untruerights | Nov 08 11:45 |
| mjg59_ | They produced something *less* lethal than wuhan | Nov 08 11:45 |
| reptilian_thrills | when i step in the biolab you know i step correct! WUHAN! WUHAN! i got you all in check! | Nov 08 11:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | getting hand calculator | Nov 08 11:46 |
| MinceR | wuhan is lethal mostly because of the stalinist humans in it, not because of viruses :> | Nov 08 11:46 |
| mjg59_ | Odd way to talk about masturbation, but ok | Nov 08 11:46 |
| MinceR | reptilian_thrills: wuhan clan? | Nov 08 11:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 11:46 |
| reptilian_thrills | aint nothin to fuck with | Nov 08 11:46 |
| mjg59_ | Fuck Martin Skrelli | Nov 08 11:47 |
| reptilian_thrills | #metoo ? | Nov 08 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | NHS and ONS use OOXML | Nov 08 11:47 |
| MinceR | PoundMeToo! | Nov 08 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it's hard to do this properly, maybe that's aprt of the goal | Nov 08 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they also outsource to "Microsoft BI" | Nov 08 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | B=bribery | Nov 08 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I="intelligence" as in spying on whistleblower | Nov 08 11:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | mjg: what do you think of microsoft co-opting trans rights with their flag thing | Nov 08 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | Oh I guess Roy's moved on from defending his obvously false claim | Nov 08 11:48 |
| reptilian_thrills | admittedly a loaded question | Nov 08 11:48 |
| MinceR | Microsoft <3 trans rights | Nov 08 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: I will take corporations presenting even token support for groups who are discriminated against over them not doing so | Nov 08 11:49 |
| MinceR | (like Linux) | Nov 08 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | In the current political climate they're placing themselves at some risk | Nov 08 11:49 |
| reptilian_thrills | even token support <- even when it just sells tshirts? | Nov 08 11:49 |
| MinceR | mjg59_: and you're not worried they'll do to it what they do to everything they touch? :> | Nov 08 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | It's nowhere near as much risk as doing something meaningful | Nov 08 11:49 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 11:49 |
| MinceR | ever the MICROS~1 apologist | Nov 08 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | In the current political climate they're placing themselves at some risk <- yeah, i can see a lot of people in trailers and motorcycle clubs moving to apple for this | Nov 08 11:50 |
| mjg59_ | But it's still a "Fox News will be mean about us" trade-off | Nov 08 11:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 11:50 |
| MinceR | hasn't crApple done something against LGBT+ people already? | Nov 08 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean tim cook is gay | Nov 08 11:50 |
| reptilian_thrills | is he transphobic? | Nov 08 11:50 |
| mjg59_ | So eg Google's SF LGBT group were upset that the corporate group was funding SF Pride even though SF Pride accepted SFPD | Nov 08 11:51 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me assumes all these things are one-dimensional, so its actually moot that one gay ceo means nothing regarding policies etc | Nov 08 11:51 |
| MinceR | gay people have done horrible things to gay people before | Nov 08 11:51 |
| mjg59_ | And the corporate group shut down the local group and threatened to fire them | Nov 08 11:51 |
| MinceR | like jozsef szajer | Nov 08 11:51 |
| mjg59_ | And yeah that's 100% bullshit | Nov 08 11:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> gay people have done horrible things to gay people before <- they still do | Nov 08 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | And fucking evil | Nov 08 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | SFPD have a long history of beating gay people | Nov 08 11:52 |
| MinceR | police officers have a long history of beating people in general, don't they? | Nov 08 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | But I'd prefer Google to have funded a bad Pride than refuse to fund a bad Pride because they hated Pride | Nov 08 11:52 |
| MinceR | i don't see why they'd check and stop if they encounter one that happens to be gayt | Nov 08 11:52 |
| reptilian_thrills | they do target specific groups | Nov 08 11:53 |
| MinceR | s/.$// | Nov 08 11:53 |
| MinceR | well, they don't target rich and powerful people, i suppose | Nov 08 11:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | check and stop if they encounter one that happens to be gay <- probably a group or a couple more likely | Nov 08 11:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | which gay club raid by police changed the laws in britain or new york? | Nov 08 11:53 |
| reptilian_thrills | or sf? | Nov 08 11:53 |
| mjg59_ | It's all a spectrum - spending money to support marginalised groups in reality > spending money to support your idea of a marginalised group > spending money to hurt a marginalised group | Nov 08 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | there was a famous one | Nov 08 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | spending money to support your idea of a marginalised group <- next up: google wears dreadlocks | Nov 08 11:54 |
| reptilian_thrills | "this is a good idea" | Nov 08 11:55 |
| techrights-news | ONS Released Complete Mortality Data Moments Ago. It Shows Total Deaths Are 16.23% Above Pre-COVID-19 Levels (for the Week). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/08/2022-total-deaths/ | Nov 08 11:55 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: Harvey Milk came after Stonewall, but the White Night riots were still a violent police response to the protests around the sentencing of his murderer | Nov 08 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Released Complete Mortality Data Moments Ago. It Shows Total Deaths Are 16.23% Above Pre-COVID-19 Levels (for the Week). | Nov 08 11:55 | |
| MinceR | apparently crApple banned some "LGBTW+ apps" on the crApp Store | Nov 08 11:55 |
| MinceR | a while ago | Nov 08 11:55 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me tries to figure out what the w stands for for likw 15 seconds before looking at keyboard layout | Nov 08 11:56 |
| mjg59_ | reptilian_thrills: It's about a 10 minute walk from here to the Castro, it's actually still clearly a raw situation | Nov 08 11:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nothing is worse than such "apps" | Nov 08 11:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they also banned "drone tracking" apps | Nov 08 11:56 |
| MinceR | s/W/Q/ | Nov 08 11:56 |
| reptilian_thrills | it's actually still clearly a raw situation <- oh i dont doubt it | Nov 08 11:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because they interfered with assassinations | Nov 08 11:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | apple: we protect killer drones | Nov 08 11:57 |
| reptilian_thrills | i was actually trying to explain why it MIGHT be | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anddd attack helicopters | Nov 08 11:57 |
| MinceR | nice | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-bans-drone-strike-app-from-app-store-2015-9 | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Apple Bans Drone Strike App From App Store | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.vice.com/en/article/538kan/apple-just-banned-the-app-that-tracks-us-drone-strikes-again | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Apple Just Banned the App That Tracks US Drone Strikes, Again | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| MinceR | so if i sexually identify as an attack helicopter, crApple will protect me and my rights? | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/apple-bans-drone-strike-app/ | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infosecurity-magazine.com | Apple bans ‘drone strike’ app - Infosecurity Magazine | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.macworld.com/article/669871/apple-bans-drone-attack-tally-app.html | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple bans drone attack 'tally' app | Macworld | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/aug/30/apple-blocks-us-drone-strike-app | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Apple blocks 'objectionable' app that reports deaths from US drone strikes | Apps | The Guardian | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/04/apple-drones-app-banned-petition-steps-up-fight_n_2236434.html | Nov 08 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Apple Drones App Banned: Politicians And Campaigners Step Up Fight | HuffPost UK Tech | Nov 08 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | sucha lovely company | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | protecting people | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from offence | Nov 08 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but not from assassination | Nov 08 11:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's typical pentagon toyish plastic "SJW" | Nov 08 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | And then in 1989 SFPD beat up a bunch of protestors campaigning about the US government response to AIDS | Nov 08 11:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "master branch" bad | Nov 08 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Your company worked for the MoD | Nov 08 11:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | exploiting underage people for work. .. NOT slavery!! | Nov 08 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | trans people are increasingly allowed to use bathrooms, except in the usual backwards states ofc | Nov 08 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | Such a lovely company | Nov 08 11:58 |
| MinceR | i thought dr. supragenius made it clear already that offending people or talking about wishing them death was far worse than actually killing them | Nov 08 11:58 |
| reptilian_thrills | but i think attack helicopters, like ricky gervais, dont belong in our bathrooms | Nov 08 11:59 |
| mjg59_ | If that's the impression I gave, I apologise - I don't believe that | Nov 08 11:59 |
| MinceR | well, they wouldn't fit in any of mine | Nov 08 11:59 |
| MinceR | my bathrooms are too small :( | Nov 08 11:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | for one thing, attack helicopters are much bigger and more dangerous | Nov 08 11:59 |
| MinceR | they're not nearly as dangerous as humans | Nov 08 11:59 |
| reptilian_thrills | a bit like celebrity itself | Nov 08 11:59 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah had to have an electrician into my bathroom today because the GFCI kept tripping, definitely couldn't have fit a helicopter in there | Nov 08 12:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | gfci be tripping | Nov 08 12:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 12:00 |
| reptilian_thrills | plot twist: the gfci tripped over the uefi | Nov 08 12:01 |
| reptilian_thrills | because of the acpi | Nov 08 12:01 |
| mjg59_ | Sadly the GFCI tripped over the ground shorting against the neutral in one of the light fittings | Nov 08 12:01 |
| mjg59_ | Your version is funnier | Nov 08 12:01 |
| mjg59_ | Less probability of death | Nov 08 12:02 |
| reptilian_thrills | i mean thats why we have gfci in the first place | Nov 08 12:02 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah | Nov 08 12:02 |
| MinceR | well, if your GFCI depends on UEFI and ACPI, you're actually in greater danger | Nov 08 12:02 |
| MinceR | because neither of those two was engineered to be safe or reliable | Nov 08 12:02 |
| mjg59_ | I promise you that I would not suggest either UEFI or ACPI be involved in GFCI | Nov 08 12:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 12:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | no tpm either | Nov 08 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | Safety-critical environments should have minimal dependencies | Nov 08 12:03 |
| reptilian_thrills | computers: fuck it, lets see what happens | Nov 08 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | Hey, I'm helping reduce dependencies in trucks | Nov 08 12:04 |
| MinceR | trucks with UEFI? the horror! | Nov 08 12:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | keep the wheels, i think those are crucial | Nov 08 12:04 |
| reptilian_thrills | linux kernel: where were going we dont need... floppies | Nov 08 12:04 |
| MinceR | if hp were to build a truck, the wheels would be nonfunctional | Nov 08 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | Ha man Waymo's been on the road with UEFI for years | Nov 08 12:05 |
| MinceR | but they'd have a musical horn | Nov 08 12:05 |
| MinceR | great | Nov 08 12:05 |
| reptilian_thrills | if hp built a truck the engine wouldnt start because it would overheat in .5 seconds | Nov 08 12:05 |
| MinceR | as if their higher-level software wasn't dangerous enough on its own | Nov 08 12:05 |
| MinceR | maybe UEFI can prevent it from starting and then it can't cause as much damage | Nov 08 12:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | if lennart poettering made a truck you could retire after working for a tow service for a year | Nov 08 12:06 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 08 12:06 |
| reptilian_thrills | because it would be the only kind of truck on the road | Nov 08 12:06 |
| MinceR | provided you could somehow get a tow truck he had nothing to do with | Nov 08 12:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | gfci is special | Nov 08 12:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | its a more complicated design that makes life LESS miserable instead of more | Nov 08 12:07 |
| reptilian_thrills | unless of course youre trying to end your life with the old toaster in the bathtub | Nov 08 12:07 |
| mjg59_ | UEFI can actually prevent it from starting | Nov 08 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | Having a fully measured boot, including the config, means you can prevent a dev build switching into autonomy | Nov 08 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | You just keep a secret that's sealed to production keys | Nov 08 12:08 |
| reptilian_thrills | users eventually fix it | Nov 08 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | I actually designed that for Waymo | Nov 08 12:09 |
| techrights-news | "The T8 Pro is a MiniPC featuring a 15W Celeron N5095 processor along with Intel UHD Graphics." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/gateway-minipc-equipped-with-celeron-cpu-and-dual-gbe-ports/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Nov 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/gateway-minipc-equipped-with-celeron-cpu-and-dual-gbe-ports/ ) | Nov 08 12:09 | |
| mjg59_ | No idea if they deployed it | Nov 08 12:09 |
| techrights-news | "Nmap is an open source utility for network discovery and security auditing." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/nmap-scan-ports/ | Source: Linux Handbook | Nov 08 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Scanning All or Specified Ports With Nmap | Nov 08 12:10 | |
| reptilian_thrills | this protects microsoft | Nov 08 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | But the point is you don't want an autonomous vehicle to run unless you've validated that it's in the appropriate state | Nov 08 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | Otherwise someone will fuck up at some point and the wrong software will be on something that's allowed onto the road | Nov 08 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | And that's bad! | Nov 08 12:10 |
| reptilian_thrills | i saw that movie | Nov 08 12:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | in the 80s it was just silly | Nov 08 12:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | but now | Nov 08 12:11 |
| MinceR | you probably don't want an autonomous vehicle to run unless it's either in a closed system with non-autonomous vehicles or pedestrians in it or it's a human-level AI developed to standards unattainable by gulag, MICROS~1, dehomag, crApple, intHell, Obstacle and their pals | Nov 08 12:11 |
| mjg59_ | We all remember the F8 of the Furious | Nov 08 12:11 |
| reptilian_thrills | i was thinking of maximum overdrive :) | Nov 08 12:11 |
| *MinceR presses F8 | Nov 08 12:11 | |
| reptilian_thrills | /me bets elon musk has a movie poster for maximum overdrive in his office | Nov 08 12:12 |
| reptilian_thrills | "hi im stephen king, and im low on cash this year" | Nov 08 12:12 |
| MinceR | giving it more thought, it's pretty much impossible with humans to regulate what software is allowed to drive autonomous vehicles without locking them into some badly designed, badly implemented dangerous crap and not giving well engineered free software a chance | Nov 08 12:14 |
| MinceR | so the whole thing is probably doomed in our doomed society anyway | Nov 08 12:14 |
| MinceR | regulations are written to appease corporations with good access to the government | Nov 08 12:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | the new toyota camry: now with funtenna | Nov 08 12:14 |
| reptilian_thrills | corporations are against state regulation | Nov 08 12:15 |
| reptilian_thrills | not of rivals, just of them specifically | Nov 08 12:15 |
| MinceR | corporations are for state regulation that works the way they want it | Nov 08 12:15 |
| MinceR | i.e. barring rivals from markets and such | Nov 08 12:16 |
| reptilian_thrills | theyre against taxes but not the bailouts they get with tax money: PARADOX! | Nov 08 12:16 |
| MinceR | and at this point the suits are probably more wary of engineers making self-driving cars that work well just for fun, for themselves than they are of other corporations | Nov 08 12:16 |
| MinceR | well, the government already has some money that they can take | Nov 08 12:17 |
| MinceR | after it's all gone, that's a different problem | Nov 08 12:17 |
| MinceR | plus they could print money and hand it out | Nov 08 12:17 |
| MinceR | didn't they invent a theory that justifies printing money endlessly already? | Nov 08 12:17 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Nov 08 12:17 | |
| reptilian_thrills | "congratulations, your life is about the same but now your customers cant afford meat or produce" | Nov 08 12:17 |
| MinceR | good enough for sociopaths | Nov 08 12:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | <MinceR> didn't they invent a theory that justifies printing money endlessly already <- yes, the theory is called fuck the poor | Nov 08 12:18 |
| MinceR | i thought it was modern monetary theory or something like that | Nov 08 12:18 |
| reptilian_thrills | its an old theory but broadly supported by everyone that has lots of money | Nov 08 12:19 |
| techrights-news | "The history of documentation as it relates to operating systems and software development has a rich history that expands decades." ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/11/08/os-site-aligns-w-upstream-documentation/ | Source: OpenSUSE | Nov 08 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE site Aligns with Upstream Documentation - openSUSE News | Nov 08 12:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 12:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | Person Facepalming was approved as part of Unicode 9.0 in 2016 under the name "Face Palm" and added to Emoji 3.0 in 2016. | Nov 08 12:20 |
| reptilian_thrills | they keep this up and unicode will become self-aware | Nov 08 12:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 08 12:21 |
| reptilian_thrills | its probably already turing complete | Nov 08 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | unicode is a farce now | Nov 08 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's for "industry" | Nov 08 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and not like proper industry | Nov 08 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | more like showbiz | Nov 08 12:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me remembers when it was just a couple plucky engineers at a bake sale | Nov 08 12:22 |
| MinceR | there's no business like show business | Nov 08 12:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | what about monkey businjess? | Nov 08 12:22 |
| MinceR | Caleb didn't talk about that | Nov 08 12:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | apina.biz? | Nov 08 12:22 |
| reptilian_thrills | if you like apina coladas | Nov 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Aldrin.biz | Nov 08 12:24 |
| reptilian_thrills | i like that yoga was such a formidable threat by the late 70s that you had to specify a dislike for it in a personals ad | Nov 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a gemini capsule | Nov 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with lots of buzz about it | Nov 08 12:25 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3DeEH_3BDw | Nov 08 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=u3DeEH_3BDw | Nov 08 12:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=u3DeEH_3BDw ) | Nov 08 12:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | nvidious instances perish fast | Nov 08 12:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we added the non-clownflare ones | Nov 08 12:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe a time to update the list | Nov 08 12:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | clown wars | Nov 08 12:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | if there must be wars, please let these clown wars | Nov 08 12:26 |
| reptilian_thrills | stay | Nov 08 12:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | invidious.nerdvpn.de | Nov 08 12:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> "Last week, AWS and Microsoft admitted that their customers have realized their CLOWN costs are out of control." ☛ https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ | Source: The Register UK | Nov 08 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Cloud magic was a nice story, now with an unhappy ending • The Register | Nov 08 12:27 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> Timothy Prickett Morgan shilling clown computing for ICBM, his paymaster (Disclosure: I forgot to mention ICBM bribes us for puff pieces) https://www.itjungle.com/2022/11/07/if-youre-moving-to-the-cloud-first-you-have-to-get-into-the-weeds/ | Nov 08 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Readiness Assessment Accelerates Moving IBM i Workloads To The Cloud - IT Jungle | Nov 08 12:27 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "why own when you can rent?" (?? | Nov 08 12:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pay $1000 a year to rent a server you can buy for $1000 to OWN | Nov 08 12:28 |
| reptilian_thrills | why rent when you can go to a cafe? | Nov 08 12:28 |
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| reptilian_thrills | as long as you keep ordering tea, they keep the server running smoothly | Nov 08 12:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "why get married?" | Nov 08 12:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ""why cook?" | Nov 08 12:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | home cooking is killing the restaurant industry | Nov 08 12:29 |
| reptilian_thrills | AND ITS ILLEGAL | Nov 08 12:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "why have a toilet? you only use it 0.01% of the time! | Nov 08 12:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "let's share toilets | Nov 08 12:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a shared facility at the top of every road | Nov 08 12:30 |
| reptilian_thrills | let's share toilets <- works for senators in airports | Nov 08 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Cooking involved owning knives | Nov 08 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and knives kill people | Nov 08 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "let the responsible copyri;.. I mean, restaurant owners handle the knives" | Nov 08 12:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw, not kidding but: | Nov 08 12:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I heard many apartments no longer have a kitchen! | Nov 08 12:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's astounding because | Nov 08 12:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | all those years even rented rooms and studios (minimal) came with at least a kitchenette | Nov 08 12:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not it is seen as a luxuty | Nov 08 12:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like cooking is some prestigious thing | Nov 08 12:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | /me looks up samurai chef but its just a guy at a hibachi bar | Nov 08 12:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | iirc, daemonfc had to gook up some kitchen appliance on the floor/carpet | Nov 08 12:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just to cook something | Nov 08 12:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is "developed country" | Nov 08 12:32 |
| reptilian_thrills | im pretty sure bushido doesnt give a shit about an onion volcano, but theres a lot i dont know about feudal japan | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a couple in the 30s cooking on the floor | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a couple with INCOME | Nov 08 12:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | walmart full time | Nov 08 12:34 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Truck Simulator, Plot of the Druid, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Games_Steam_Deck_Truck_Simulator_Plot_of_the_Druid_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Games_Steam_Deck_Truck_Simulator_Plot_of_the_Druid_and_More.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: Steam Deck, Truck Simulator, Plot of the Druid, and More | Nov 08 12:34 | |
| techrights-news | Haha. Free speech, eh, Elon 'the mask fell off'? ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/twitter-suspends-comedian-kathy-griffin-after-she-mocks-elon-musk/ | Source: TruthOut | Nov 08 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Twitter Suspends Comedian Kathy Griffin After She Mocks Elon Musk | Nov 08 12:35 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Akin-895426623 | Nov 08 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Akin by FurLined on DeviantArt | Nov 08 12:35 | |
| MinceR | the front fell off | Nov 08 12:35 |
| techrights-news | How very Kremlin ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/07/attorney-general-formally-bans-the-collection-of-journalists-records-during-leak-investigations/ | Source: Techdirt | Nov 08 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attorney General Formally Bans The Collection Of Journalists’ Records During Leak Investigations | Techdirt | Nov 08 12:36 | |
| techrights-news | Elong demise ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/07/elon-musk-continues-to-speedrun-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/ | Source: Techdirt | Nov 08 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Elon Speedrun Continues; Apparently Comedy Is Not Quite Legal On The New Twitter | Techdirt | Nov 08 12:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Some news outlets engage in journalism. Others just engage in hype." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/07/deas-rainbow-fentanyl-moral-panic-is-making-broadcasters-politicians-stupider-than-they-already-are/ | Source: Techdirt | Nov 08 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DEA’s Rainbow Fentanyl Moral Panic Is Making Broadcasters, Politicians Stupider Than They Already Are | Techdirt | Nov 08 12:38 | |
| techrights-news | Groups Urge Boycott of Twitter ☛ https://truthout.org/video/groups-urge-boycott-of-twitter-if-musk-allows-misinformation-to-go-unchecked/ | Source: TruthOut | Nov 08 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Groups Urge Boycott of Twitter If Musk Allows Misinformation to Go Unchecked | Nov 08 12:40 | |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to be illegal for accounts to be banned because of it :> | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they will joinm the "SJW" in boycotting twitter | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or maybe now | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Team SJW is STILL with Musk | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and making excuses for it | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because they never truly stood for anything | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | except deflecting for Bill gates | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the other part owner of Twitter | Nov 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | who also suspends people who use facts against him | Nov 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. zoobab and me | Nov 08 12:41 |
| MinceR | they stand for whoever rewards them | Nov 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (even repeatedly) | Nov 08 12:41 |
| MinceR | it would be interesting to see a conflict in which both sides use SJW trolls against the other | Nov 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (not a coincidence at all; it's a policy in Twiter) | Nov 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe Musk can use 'Team SJW' to cancel his own critics | Nov 08 12:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as they attack their 'own' | Nov 08 12:42 |
| mjg59_ | Team SJW is absolutely not with Musk | Nov 08 12:42 |
| mjg59_ | I have no idea where that comes from | Nov 08 12:42 |
| reptilian_thrills | there are only two sides | Nov 08 12:43 |
| reptilian_thrills | sjws and corporations vs bloggers and doctors of journalism | Nov 08 12:44 |
| reptilian_thrills | musk is on the sjw side ofc | Nov 08 12:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you tweet, you work for musk | Nov 08 12:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you don't tweet, you don't | Nov 08 12:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you delete your account, you erode his "value" | Nov 08 12:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I did not delete my account | Nov 08 12:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and did not leave because of him either | Nov 08 12:45 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Nov 08 12:45 | |
| techrights-news | Starlink ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/07/usage-caps-coming-to-starlink-as-capacity-crunch-rears-its-head/ | Source: Techdirt | Nov 08 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Usage Caps Coming To Starlink As Capacity Crunch Rears Its Head | Techdirt | Nov 08 12:45 | |
| reptilian_thrills | when you ride alone, you ride with musk! | Nov 08 12:46 |
| techrights-news | Musk is anagram of skam (almost) and skum | Nov 08 12:46 |
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| techrights-news | Good thing we bought a lot of corn last month ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/11/7/elon_musk_twitter_layoffs_misinformation_civil | Source: Democracy Now | Nov 08 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Musk Fires Half of Twitter’s Workforce; Rights Orgs Urge Boycott of “Superspreader of Misinformation” | Democracy Now! | Nov 08 12:47 | |
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| reptilian_thrills | when you ride alone, you ride with musk! <- but at least youre not part welsh | Nov 08 12:50 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: So are you team SJW or team Musk | Nov 08 12:50 |
| techrights-news | Musk ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/musk/ | Source: The Nation | Nov 08 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Musk | The Nation | Nov 08 12:51 | |
| techrights-news | "Curious to know what others had on their laptops, I asked!" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/11/laptop-stickers | Source: OpenSource.com | Nov 08 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What stickers are on your laptop? | Opensource.com | Nov 08 12:51 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: that does not make sense | Nov 08 12:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wanna know why I quit twitter? | Nov 08 12:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I covered this many timrs | Nov 08 12:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *times | Nov 08 12:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in 2020 I quit replying because http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ | Nov 08 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where ‘Cancel Culture’ Thrives | Techrights | Nov 08 12:52 | |
| mjg59_ | So why do you work for a company funded by the military | Nov 08 12:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no, as I said before, I don't know what project it was so it probably predated me | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I joined in 2011 | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you can use wayback machine | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and see what happened and when | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I never worked on anything mod or saw something to do with it | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techrights is critical of mod | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | since like 2008 | Nov 08 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://wikileaks.org/wiki/MoD_%27how_to_stop_leaks%27_document_is_leaked | Nov 08 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | MoD 'how to stop leaks' document is leaked - WikiLeaks | Nov 08 12:55 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "The threat [of leakage] is less likely to arise from positive acts of counter-espionage, than from leakage of information through disaffected members of staff, or as a result of the attentions of an investigative journalist" | Nov 08 12:55 |
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| techrights-news | "Prior to the turn of the century, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals handed down a formative decision that helped craft the contours of Section 230 immunity." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/07/fourth-circuit-goes-on-the-attack-against-section-230-in-a-lawsuit-over-publication-of-third-party-data/ | Source: Techdirt | Nov 08 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fourth Circuit Goes On The Attack Against Section 230 In A Lawsuit Over Publication Of Third Party Data | Techdirt | Nov 08 12:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 12:59 |
| techrights-news | "omnipresent American theater of social media," ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/a-rabbis-tales/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Rabbi’s Tales - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 13:01 | |
| techrights-news | "As an aside, my embrace of vaccine mandates was my darkest day as a leftist." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/white-christian-supremacists-try-to-cancel-kyrie-irving/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-White Christian Supremacists Try To Cancel Kyrie Irving - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 13:02 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): openSUSE site Aligns with Upstream Documentation ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/openSUSE_site_Aligns_with_Upstream_Documentation.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/openSUSE_site_Aligns_with_Upstream_Documentation.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — openSUSE site Aligns with Upstream Documentation | Nov 08 13:03 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Nov 08 13:15 | |
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| techrights-news | ODROID-N2L is a smaller, low-cost variant of ODROID-N2+ Arm SBC https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/08/odroid-n2l-is-a-smaller-low-cost-variant-of-odroid-n2-arm-sbc/ | Nov 08 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | ODROID-N2L is a smaller, low-cost variant of ODROID-N2+ Arm SBC - CNX Software | Nov 08 13:18 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 13:20 |
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| techrights-news | Elon Musk Has Put Twitter’s Free Speech in Danger https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-free-speech-musk-takeover/ | Nov 08 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk Has Put Twitter’s Free Speech in Danger | WIRED | Nov 08 13:20 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "The threat [of leakage] is less likely to arise from positive acts of counter-espionage, than from leakage of information through disaffected members of staff, or as a result of the attentions of an investigative journalist" | Nov 08 13:23 |
| techrights-news | Larabel turns mere "tweets" into 'articles' https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVK-New-Compiler-Starting | Nov 08 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVK Vulkan Driver Starting Work On New Compiler - Phoronix | Nov 08 13:32 | |
| techrights-news | 11,245 - 9,674 (5-year average) = 1,571. 1,571 is 16.23% of 9,674. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/08/2022-total-deaths/ | Nov 08 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Released Complete Mortality Data Moments Ago. It Shows Total Deaths Are 16.23% Above Pre-COVID-19 Levels (for the Week). | Nov 08 13:35 | |
| techrights-news | Perl is out of the list of dependencies ⚓ https://www.qt.io/blog/perl-is-out-of-the-list-of-dependencies ䷉ Source: Qt | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/perl-is-out-of-the-list-of-dependencies | Nov 08 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Perl is out of the list of dependencies | Nov 08 13:36 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux laptop crew Tuxedo releases Stellaris AMD Gen 4 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Linux_laptop_crew_Tuxedo_releases_Stellaris_AMD_Gen_4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Linux_laptop_crew_Tuxedo_releases_Stellaris_AMD_Gen_4.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux laptop crew Tuxedo releases Stellaris AMD Gen 4 | Nov 08 13:37 | |
| techrights-news | Billionaires controlling their image ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/why-do-billionaires-love-owning-newspapers/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Do Billionaires Love Owning Newspapers? - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 13:39 | |
| techrights-news | "Pick and place machines are a wonder to behold, as they delicately and accurately place part after part." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/an-rp2040-powered-pick-and-place/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An RP2040 Powered Pick And Place | Hackaday | Nov 08 13:43 | |
| techrights-news | "This article was distributed by a Chinese government accepted source" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/07/the-us-chips-and-science-act-of-2022-and-its-impacts-on-chinas-semiconductor-industry/ | Source: Scheerpost | Nov 08 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The US Chips and Science Act of 2022 and Its Impacts on China's Semiconductor Industry - scheerpost.com | Nov 08 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | "inflation" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/an-economists-chart-goes-viral-shows-main-source-of-inflation/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Economist’s Chart Goes Viral: Shows Main Source of Inflation - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 13:50 | |
| techrights-news | So-called "economists" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/herman-daly-a-economist-who-future-economists-and-societies-will-dare-not-ignore/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Herman Daly: A Economist Who Future Economists — and Societies — Will Dare Not Ignore - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 13:58 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/funny-pictures-11-7-22-13.jpg | Nov 08 13:59 |
| techrights-news | Diegetic mechanics gemini://idiomdrottning.org/diegetic-mechanics | Nov 08 14:00 |
| techrights-news | Lunar Eclipse 2022-11-08 (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221108-0.gmi | Nov 08 14:01 |
| techrights-news | "Long live Microsoft, and long live Embrace, Extend, Extinguish!" gemini://gems.geminet.org/avr/2022-11-08-copilot-and-free-software.gmi | Nov 08 14:02 |
| techrights-news | Bezos lobbying using his pet 'news' site ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/08/washington-post-claims-voters-want-cuts-in-social-security-and-medicare/ | Source: Counter Punch | Nov 08 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Washington Post Claims Voters Want Cuts in Social Security and Medicare - CounterPunch.org | Nov 08 14:05 | |
| techrights-news | "All Quiet on the Western Front" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/07/netflixs-failed-adaptation-all-quiet-western-front | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 08 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Netflix's Failed Adaptation of "All Quiet on the Western Front" | Camillo Mac Bica | Nov 08 14:06 | |
| techrights-news | Ketanji Brown Jackson ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/07/jackson-issues-first-dissent-over-supreme-court-refusal-hear-death-row-appeal | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 08 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Jackson Issues First Dissent Over Supreme Court Refusal to Hear Death Row Appeal | Nov 08 14:06 | |
| techrights-news | Oxfam ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/07/single-billionaire-produces-million-times-more-emissions-average-person-oxfam | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 08 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Single Billionaire Produces a Million Times More Emissions Than Average Person: Oxfam | Nov 08 14:11 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Moving From Twitter to Mastodon ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Moving_From_Twitter_to_Mastodon.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Moving_From_Twitter_to_Mastodon.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Moving From Twitter to Mastodon | Nov 08 14:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 14:20 |
| starstreak | im watching the og tron movie btw | Nov 08 14:20 |
| techrights-news | When billionaires buy election outcomes ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/07/thats-oligarchy-sanders-rips-billionaires-trying-buy-midterm-victories | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 08 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'That's Oligarchy': Sanders Rips Billionaires for Trying to Buy Midterm Victories | Nov 08 14:21 | |
| techrights-news | Labor Rights ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/labor-rights-midterms-ballot/ | Source: The Nation | Nov 08 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Labor Rights Are on the Ballot | The Nation | Nov 08 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | Go vote ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/youth-voters-turnout-democrats-2022-midterms/ | Source: The Nation | Nov 08 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Youth Turnout Will Decide the Fate of the Midterm Elections | The Nation | Nov 08 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | Vote Republican, says owner of Twitter. Don't worry, the so-called 'SJWs' are still working for him. They are incapable of showing principles. | Nov 08 14:24 |
| starstreak | I don | Nov 08 14:24 |
| starstreak | I don't like Elon Musk anymore because he said vote republican | Nov 08 14:24 |
| starstreak | thats the final straw | Nov 08 14:24 |
| techrights-news | A vote for the democrats is a vote for corporations controlling the state. A vote for the republicans is a vote for corporations controlling the state and corporations being bigots, too. | Nov 08 14:25 |
| techrights-news | "If you attended the 2022 Supercon, you might have heard the story about the SMD soldering challenge table nearly catching on fire." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/smelting-solar-style/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smelting Solar Style | Hackaday | Nov 08 14:26 | |
| techrights-news | "We all know the temptation of adding one more feature to your latest project." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/overengineered-fume-extractor-version-2/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overengineered Fume Extractor, Version 2 | Hackaday | Nov 08 14:26 | |
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| techrights-news | "Everything Old Is New Again" ☛ https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2022/11/07/the-accelerating-war-on-science-based-medical-regulation/ | | Nov 08 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.respectfulinsolence.com | The accelerating war on science-based medical regulation - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE | Nov 08 14:28 | |
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| *EightBallz puts a rock in his pipe and smokes it | Nov 08 14:28 | |
| EightBallz | http://palmerluckey.com/if-you-die-in-the-game-you-die-in-real-life/ | Nov 08 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-palmerluckey.com | If you die in the game, you die in real life. – The Blog of Palmer Luckey | Nov 08 14:29 | |
| techrights-news | recession or worse ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/07/winter-coming-recession-created-feds-disdain-workers | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 08 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Winter Is Coming: A Recession Created by the Fed's Disdain for Workers | Dante Dallavalle | Nov 08 14:53 | |
| techrights-news | inflation ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/report-big-shipping-companies-profits-increased-30000-percent-amid-inflation/ | Source: TruthOut | Nov 08 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Report: Big Shipping Companies’ Profits Increased 30,000 Percent Amid Inflation | Nov 08 14:54 | |
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| techrights-news | "Last time, I’ve explained everything you could want to know if you wanted to put an M.2 socket onto your board." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/11/07/m-2-for-hackers-cards/ | Source: Hackaday | Nov 08 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M.2 For Hackers – Cards | Hackaday | Nov 08 14:55 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 14:59 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Titan Linux Review: A Blend of Debian Stable and KDE Plasma Desktop ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Titan_Linux_Review_A_Blend_of_Debian_Stable_and_KDE_Plasma_Desk.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Titan_Linux_Review_A_Blend_of_Debian_Stable_and_KDE_Plasma_Desk.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Titan Linux Review: A Blend of Debian Stable and KDE Plasma Desktop | Nov 08 15:10 | |
| *Now talking on #techrights | Nov 08 15:14 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ | Nov 08 15:14 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 | Nov 08 15:14 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Nov 08 15:14 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Nov 08 15:14 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by superkuh!~superkuh@user/superkuh at Thu May 20 20:25:48 2021 | Nov 08 15:14 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 15:20 |
| CrystalMath | a vote for democrats is a vote for cance[lr] culture | Nov 08 15:22 |
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| starstreak | a vote for republicans is a vote for fascism | Nov 08 15:26 |
| psydruid | a vote to nuke the USA and wipe it once and for all is a vote for sanity | Nov 08 15:27 |
| EightBallz | you seem insane psydruid | Nov 08 15:28 |
| EightBallz | kill millions on a whim because you don't like them | Nov 08 15:28 |
| EightBallz | that actually sounds kind of like Hitler or Stalin | Nov 08 15:28 |
| psydruid | EightBallz: that sounds more like something USonians do | Nov 08 15:28 |
| psydruid | I've never killed anyone | Nov 08 15:29 |
| EightBallz | you just want millions dead | Nov 08 15:29 |
| psydruid | that's a small price to pay to save the rest of the world from getting harmed even more by the USA | Nov 08 15:30 |
| psydruid | maybe fix your damn country | Nov 08 15:30 |
| *EightBallz puts a crack rock in his pipe and smokes it | Nov 08 15:31 | |
| EightBallz | seek therapy | Nov 08 15:31 |
| psydruid | that's what you and your countrymen should do indeed | Nov 08 15:31 |
| psydruid | instead of trying to police the whole world | Nov 08 15:31 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KDE Plasma 5.26.3 Continues to Improve the Plasma Wayland Session, Fixes Various Issues ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/KDE_Plasma_5_26_3_Continues_to_Improve_the_Plasma_Wayland_Sessi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/KDE_Plasma_5_26_3_Continues_to_Improve_the_Plasma_Wayland_Sessi.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — KDE Plasma 5.26.3 Continues to Improve the Plasma Wayland Session, Fixes Various Issues | Nov 08 15:37 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter Does he *want* people to flee? | Nov 08 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.platformer.news | Musk discusses putting all of Twitter behind a paywall | Nov 08 15:57 | |
| XRevan86 | What next? Channel take-over? | Nov 08 15:58 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | haha | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | leenode | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sasl | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he said he wanted to authenticate ALL users | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even dissidents | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and during financial crisis he wants to START charging users | Nov 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while Twitter press coverage is very very hostile | Nov 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | at the back end they probably see a collapse in # of users | Nov 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | memories of freenode | Nov 08 16:09 |
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| techrights-news | The Entropy Centre *First Impressions* - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YU2eNu54aAM | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/YU2eNu54aAM | Nov 08 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Entropy Centre *First Impressions* - Invidious | Nov 08 16:12 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Strange thing is that Elon Musk is not as stupid as a certain A.L., so I'm puzzled by what his end-game is. | Nov 08 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | Is he really oblivious to the tension his statements are creating? | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the buyout was a mistake | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | impulsive buying | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now buyer's remorse | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it ruins his brand/name | Nov 08 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | The least he could do is not to break what he bought. | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for those other companies too | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like Lee with PIA and Shells | Nov 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (his brother)( | Nov 08 16:13 |
| techrights-news | "I often get asked about installing standalone window managers on Ubuntu. What's the best way to go about this? Well, the method that I have used in the past is installing Ubuntu Server, and then installing a window manager and needed utilities on top of that." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AHvwxc62lDQ | Nov 08 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu Server is Perfect for a Minimal "Window Manager" Installation - Invidious | Nov 08 16:13 | |
| XRevan86 | Just like with freenode 2021, where every move Andrew Lee made cut the userbase in half. | Nov 08 16:14 |
| techrights-news | A hands-on guide to work with MindSpore on Kubeflow https://ubuntu.com//blog/kubeflow-mindspore-integration-guide | Nov 08 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A hands-on guide to work with MindSpore on Kubeflow | Ubuntu | Nov 08 16:19 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Ubuntu Server, The Entropy Centre, Late Night Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Videos_Ubuntu_Server_The_Entropy_Centre_Late_Night_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Videos_Ubuntu_Server_The_Entropy_Centre_Late_Night_Linux.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: Ubuntu Server, The Entropy Centre, Late Night Linux | Nov 08 16:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 16:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | XRevan86: popcorn time | Nov 08 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yep, at least with Twitter I don't care all that much. | Nov 08 16:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah, I'm not a 'stakeholder' anymore | Nov 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I left almost a year ago | Nov 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I want to see it burn now | Nov 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and for people not to go anywhere | Nov 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like Twitter | Nov 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just to have a life | Nov 08 16:21 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 16:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Nov 08 16:23 | |
| techrights-news | Clonezilla Live 3.0.2-21 is out https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/2022/11/stable-clonezilla-live-302-21-released/ | Nov 08 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | Clonezilla / News: Stable Clonezilla live 3.0.2-21 Released | Nov 08 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | Stable Clonezilla live 3.0.2-21 Released https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/2022/11/stable-clonezilla-live-302-21-released/ | Nov 08 16:28 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): CachyOS: The Brand-New Friendly, Performance-Tuned Arch Linux Derivative ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/CachyOS_The_Brand_New_Friendly_Performance_Tuned_Arch_Linux_Der.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/CachyOS_The_Brand_New_Friendly_Performance_Tuned_Arch_Linux_Der.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — CachyOS: The Brand-New Friendly, Performance-Tuned Arch Linux Derivative | Nov 08 16:28 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LXQt 1.2.0: Top New Features & Wayland Updates ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/LXQt_1_2_0_Top_New_Features_Wayland_Updates.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/LXQt_1_2_0_Top_New_Features_Wayland_Updates.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — LXQt 1.2.0: Top New Features & Wayland Updates | Nov 08 16:32 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): VLC 3.0.18 is Out! #HowTo Install in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/VLC_3_0_18_is_Out_How_to_Install_in_Ubuntu_22_04_20_04.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/VLC_3_0_18_is_Out_How_to_Install_in_Ubuntu_22_04_20_04.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — VLC 3.0.18 is Out! How to Install in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 | Nov 08 16:39 | |
| techrights-news | 🔤SpellBinding: GYLRTUI Wordo: ADOP gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-11-08.gmi | Nov 08 16:41 |
| techrights-news | The Twitter invasion gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/the_twitter_invasion.gmi | Nov 08 16:42 |
| techrights-news | "Now, as a Geminaut, I'm used to back and forth communication taking a slower pace." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/the_twitter_invasion.gmi | Nov 08 16:42 |
| techrights-news | Arduino Uno Pinout Guide ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/arduino-uno-pinout-guide/ ䷉ Source: Linux Hint | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/arduino-uno-pinout-guide/ | Nov 08 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Arduino Uno Pinout Guide | Nov 08 16:44 | |
| techrights-news | Welcome Opta, our first-ever micro PLC with Industrial IoT capabilities | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/08/welcome-opta-our-first-ever-micro-plc-with-industrial-iot-capabilities/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/08/welcome-opta-our-first-ever-micro-plc-with-industrial-iot-capabilities/ | Nov 08 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Welcome Opta, our first-ever micro PLC with Industrial IoT capabilities | Arduino Blog | Nov 08 16:44 | |
| techrights-news | Bootlin at Capitole du Libre 2022: sponsor, booth and talks - Bootlin's blog https://bootlin.com/blog/bootlin-at-capitole-du-libre-2022-sponsor-booth-and-talks/#respond | Nov 08 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bootlin at Capitole du Libre 2022: sponsor, booth and talks - Bootlin's blog | Nov 08 16:46 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat: to go Amazon (Proprietary Software) https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/11/08/visual-guide-deploying-jboss-eap-aws | Nov 08 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | A visual guide to deploying JBoss EAP on AWS | Red Hat Developer | Nov 08 16:48 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat explains GNU while defaming its founder to take over his project https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/11/08/introduction-debug-events-learn-how-use-breakpoints | Nov 08 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | An introduction to debug events: Learn how to use breakpoints | Red Hat Developer | Nov 08 16:48 | |
| techrights-news | More chances to catch AlmaLinux: SuperCompute ‘22, and OLF ‘22 - AlmaLinux OS Blog ⚓ https://almalinux.org/blog/more-chances-to-catch-almalinux-supercompute-22-and-olf-22/ ䷉ Source: AlmaLinux Official | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//almalinux.org/blog/more-chances-to-catch-almalinux-supercompute-22-and-olf-22/ | Nov 08 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-almalinux.org | More chances to catch AlmaLinux: SuperCompute ‘22, and OLF ‘22 - AlmaLinux OS Blog | Nov 08 16:49 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat seeking to inspire you to embrace vendor lockin https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/11/digital-transformation-questions-reinspire-your-efforts | Nov 08 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 5 questions to reinspire your efforts | The Enterprisers Project | Nov 08 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Cockpit now switches to a dark theme when system dark mode is enabled." https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-279.html | Nov 08 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 279 — Cockpit Project | Nov 08 16:51 | |
| techrights-news | "In October, we published 17 posts. The site had 10,946 visits from 6,735 unique viewers. 4,559 visits came from search engines, while 484 came from Twitter and 69 came from the WordPress Android App." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-october-2022/ 200 uniques per day. Fedora used to be vastly bigger. | Nov 08 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Community Blog monthly summary: October 2022 – Fedora Community Blog | Nov 08 16:52 | |
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| techrights-news | [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] drivers/accel: define kconfig and register a new major https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20221106210225.2065371-1-ogabbay@kernel.org/T/ | Nov 08 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] new subsystem for compute accelerator devices | Nov 08 17:09 | |
| techrights-news | [PULL] nouveau-next ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/CABDvA==s+nZD0n7CuRWLPE=Pj+02CN13r+ZQJxoHQ_EmR+o=XQ@mail.gmail.com/T/#u ䷉ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/CABDvA==s+nZD0n7CuRWLPE=Pj+02CN13r+ZQJxoHQ_EmR+o=XQ@mail.gmail.com/T/#u | Nov 08 17:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PULL] nouveau-next | Nov 08 17:10 | |
| techrights-news | "obviously dead and abandoned." https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/19385 | Nov 08 17:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | delete clover (!19385) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab | Nov 08 17:10 | |
| techrights-news | Outsourcing to MICROSOFT Proprietary Prison is "Open-Source"? Who benefits here? https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVIDIA-PhysX-51-Open-Source | Nov 08 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Makes The PhysX 5.1 SDK Open-Source - Phoronix | Nov 08 17:12 | |
| techrights-news | U.S. Seizes Over 50K Bitcoin Worth $3.3 Billion Linked to Silk Road Dark Web ⚓ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/us-seizes-over-50k-bitcoin-worth-33.html ䷉ Source: Hacker News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thehackernews.com/2022/11/us-seizes-over-50k-bitcoin-worth-33.html | Nov 08 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | U.S. Seizes Over 50K Bitcoin Worth $3.3 Billion Linked to Silk Road Dark Web | Nov 08 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | EU calls for spyware moratorium, but no ban to protect human rights - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/eu-spyware-moratorium/ ䷉ Source: AccessNow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/eu-spyware-moratorium/ | Nov 08 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | EU calls for spyware moratorium, but no ban to protect human rights - Access Now | Nov 08 17:18 | |
| techrights-news | WiFi security flaw lets a drone track devices through walls | Engadget ⚓ https://www.engadget.com/wifi-security-hole-see-through-walls-152138038.html ䷉ Source: Engadget | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.engadget.com/wifi-security-hole-see-through-walls-152138038.html | Nov 08 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WiFi security flaw lets a drone track devices through walls | Engadget | Nov 08 17:18 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag puts back doors in things. It is in no position to lecture anybody on security. https://security.googleblog.com/2022/11/our-principles-for-iot-security-labeling.html | Nov 08 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-security.googleblog.com | Google Online Security Blog: Our Principles for IoT Security Labeling | Nov 08 17:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 17:20 |
| techrights-news | Another example of EU abandoning the Web and slapping a bunch of worthless JS crapware on an HTTPS address, instead https://www.enisa.europa.eu/news/enisa-news/post-quantum-cryptography-anticipating-threats-and-preparing-the-future | Nov 08 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enisa.europa.eu | NO TITLE | Nov 08 17:21 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Nov 08 17:22 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Nov 08 17:22 | |
| techrights-news | "Attention testers! On behalf of Testing and Automation devroom we'd like to announce that call for participation is now open." https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/11/08/call-for-participation-testing-and-automation-devroom-fosdem23/ | Nov 08 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kiwitcms.org | Kiwi TCMS - Call for participation: Testing and Automation devroom, FOSDEM'23 | Nov 08 17:23 | |
| techrights-news | Non-cooperative wi-fi localization & its privacy implications https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3495243.3560530 | Nov 08 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dl.acm.org | | Nov 08 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Mayhem for Code can help you find and fix vulnerabilities in your code." https://forallsecure.com/blog/how-we-make-it-easy-to-deploy-mayhem-for-code-on-your-premises | Nov 08 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forallsecure.com | How We Make It Easy to Deploy Mayhem for Code on Your Premises | Nov 08 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | Back doors company :/ https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cloud-hypervisor-project-welcomes-amd-as-a-member-of-the-advisory-board-301671280.html | Nov 08 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Cloud Hypervisor Project welcomes AMD as a Member of the Advisory Board | Nov 08 17:27 | |
| techrights-news | ChromeOS Redesigned shows us a possible future of Google’s Linux-based operating system ⚓ https://betanews.com/2022/11/08/chromeos-redesigned/ ䷉ Source: Beta News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//betanews.com/2022/11/08/chromeos-redesigned/ | Nov 08 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | ChromeOS Redesigned shows us a possible future of Google's Linux-based operating system | Nov 08 17:28 | |
| techrights-news | Khronos Unveils Kamaros as the name for the Embedded Camera System API and Working Group ⚓ https://www.khronos.org/blog/khronos-unveils-kamaros-as-the-name-for-the-embedded-camera-system-api-and-working-group ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.khronos.org/blog/khronos-unveils-kamaros-as-the-name-for-the-embedded-camera-system-api-and-working-group | Nov 08 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.khronos.org | Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc | Nov 08 17:29 | |
| techrights-news | "After two virtual events, FOSDEM 2023 will be in person, taking place on Saturday, February 4, and Sunday, February 5. LibreOffice Technology DevRoom is scheduled for the afternoon of Saturday, February 4, from 3PM to 7PM." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/11/08/fosdem-2023-cfp-libreoffice-technology-devroom/ | Nov 08 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | LibreOffice Technology DevRoom at FOSDEM 2023: Call for Papers - The Document Foundation Blog | Nov 08 17:29 | |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Proprietary: Twitter, Facebook, Clown Computing, and Microsoft ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Proprietary_Twitter_Facebook_Clown_Computing_and_Microsoft.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Proprietary_Twitter_Facebook_Clown_Computing_and_Microsoft.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Proprietary: Twitter, Facebook, Clown Computing, and Microsoft | Nov 08 17:43 | |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): AMD in Cloud Hypervisor and OBS Studio ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/AMD_in_Cloud_Hypervisor_and_OBS_Studio.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/AMD_in_Cloud_Hypervisor_and_OBS_Studio.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — AMD in Cloud Hypervisor and OBS Studio | Nov 08 17:45 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers | Nov 08 17:45 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 08/11/2022: KDE Plasma 5.26.3 and VLC 3.0.18 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/kde-plasma-5-26-3/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/kde-plasma-5-26-3/ | Nov 08 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 08/11/2022: KDE Plasma 5.26.3 and VLC 3.0.18 | Techrights | Nov 08 17:54 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Devices/Embedded: Arduino and Yocto ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Devices_Embedded_Arduino_and_Yocto.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Devices_Embedded_Arduino_and_Yocto.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Devices/Embedded: Arduino and Yocto | Nov 08 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Events and Free, Libre, and Open Source Software ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Events_and_Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Events_and_Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Events and Free, Libre, and Open Source Software | Nov 08 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Nov 08 17:56 | |
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| starstreak | linucks btw | Nov 08 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | https://neuters.de/lifestyle/sports/qatar-world-cup-ambassador-says-homosexuality-is-damage-mind-2022-11-08/ | Nov 08 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuters.de | Qatar World Cup ambassador says homosexuality is 'damage in the mind' | Nov 08 18:07 | |
| starstreak | you've just been butt slammed! | Nov 08 18:10 |
| *EightBallz is now known as gangster_og | Nov 08 18:13 | |
| starstreak | "I am JP, I am a robot, I have a robot vagina" | Nov 08 18:16 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC | So, Musk wanted the managers to write two sentences for each person that was fired. One describing what they did and one describing why they were let go. | Nov 08 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Nov 08 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | "This person was laid off because our new owner is an idiot that said to lay off an artificial figure because he was in a bad mood about how much he overpaid for Twitter." "This person was responsible for like half of those new features you said were coming and we'll be reaching out to them by Sunday to ask them to come back." | Nov 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then an email appears from Musk RE: YOUR future with Twitter. | Nov 08 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 08 18:35 |
| MinceR | it's such a great time not to be a user of shitter | Nov 08 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | Should've bought popcorn. A lot. | Nov 08 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | A book will be written about this for sure. | Nov 08 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV2DLkDPwM8 | Nov 08 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=aV2DLkDPwM8 | Nov 08 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Darth Vader "You have failed me for the last time" - Full Scene HD - Invidious | Nov 08 18:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Still the best scene out of any of the movies. | Nov 08 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe freenode will get an honourable mention in that book. | Nov 08 18:40 |
| MinceR | https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/ | Nov 08 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Here’s how a Twitter engineer says it will break in the coming weeks | MIT Technology Review | Nov 08 18:40 | |
| DaemonFC | Piett (off screen): "Oh fuck, fuck! I should have called in this morning! I had the attendance points to do it! Oh God, I'm next!" | Nov 08 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 08 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | The title of "Admiral" isn't really worth it in an organization like the Empire. | Nov 08 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | Notice how Vader never (on screen at least) force chokes any of the junior officers? | Nov 08 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | > Musk’s recent criticism of Mastodon, the open-source alternative to Twitter that has piled on users in the days since the entrepreneur took control of the platform, invites the suggestion that those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. | Nov 08 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | :D | Nov 08 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What do you figure is the highest rank that's safe from Vader yet reasonably prestigious? | Nov 08 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think the lowest rank he's bothered choking was "Captain". | Nov 08 18:43 |
| MinceR | 08 194315 < DaemonFC> Notice how Vader never (on screen at least) force chokes any of the junior officers? | Nov 08 18:44 |
| MinceR | they get promoted first | Nov 08 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/bluewavering/status/1589666432404815872#m | Nov 08 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.it | ola azul (@bluewavering): "The filthy screen on his computer suggests he fired all the cleaning staff as well."|nitter | Nov 08 18:44 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i'd rather not be involved with the empire at all. it sucks. | Nov 08 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Good time to desert I guess. | Nov 08 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they take conscripts. | Nov 08 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like Putin. | Nov 08 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose they may also shoot stormtroopers in the back for fleeing the battlefield when they're losing, like Russia does. | Nov 08 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | Elon's probably not the one who took the picture but still. | Nov 08 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops So that's what it's called in English. | Nov 08 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Barrier troops - Wikipedia | Nov 08 18:46 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what exactly happened at the Battle of Endor. Did the rest of the fleet stay and fight? There were a lot of Star Destroyers there. It was a big fleet even after the loss of Executor and the Second Death Star. | Nov 08 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with Disney's Star Wars, among the others, is that the New Republic didn't see the Imperial Remnant/First Order as a threat? | Nov 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | Why? | Nov 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | The backstory is that they lost a lot of worlds that voted to leave and join the First Order and the First Order still had the bulk of the Imperial Fleet. | Nov 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | It was a major power. | Nov 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | The Republic apparently signed some sort of peace deal that theoretically ended the conflict where it was and began a huge Cold War. | Nov 08 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | But this makes no sense. The First Order was still a fascist organization with the stated goal of eventually declaring total war on the Republic and annexing its worlds. | Nov 08 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | The logical course of action would have been to continue fighting them, not to sign some "peace deal" that allowed the Remnant to fall back and build up their forces. | Nov 08 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Palpatine didn't really care much what happened to the First Order either way. | Nov 08 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | You notice that they were a relatively small Navy compared to his Final Order fleet that he constructed at Exegol, and none of the First Order ships had planet killer weapons. The Star Destroyers at Exegol all had a planet killer weapon, which was probably also a "one shot kill" weapon for engaging in ship-to-ship combat. The whole First Order thing was just a ruse. | Nov 08 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | With or without them or Starkiller Base, Palpatine would have brought the fleet from Exegol to war with the Republic eventually. | Nov 08 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Upon finding out about Palpatine, it would have been more logical for Kylo Ren to bring the First Order fleet to Exegol while the Advanced Star Destroyer fleet was still unable to take off, and start a bombardment. One thing about Palpy.....You're not just going to kill him and take his fleet. | Nov 08 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | So the option remaining would be to wipe it out and start a surface bombardment while he's still too weak to do anything. | Nov 08 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | That would have left this movie series open to more sequels. | Nov 08 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | Disney seems to like money, which is why they put out all of these movies that are increasingly pointless/bad/poorly directed. | Nov 08 18:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▂▄▃▆▄▆▁▁▅▄▆▆▂▅▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▁▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁▁▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 86.38▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Nov 08 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think I could have written a better script. | Nov 08 19:00 |
| MinceR | many people would have | Nov 08 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | New Republic: Destroyed / Snoke: Dead / Palpy: Blown up. | Nov 08 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | The Sith "Rule of Two" is that the apprentice craves power and the best way to go about that would be to kill Palpatine and his loyalists. | Nov 08 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | The First Order already had a big enough fleet and the Republic was gone. | Nov 08 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | In time they could have just subjugated everyone else due to the power vacuum and having the largest remaining Navy in the galaxy. | Nov 08 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, DJ: "They blow you up today, you blow them up tomorrow. It's just business." | Nov 08 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | I read that as Disney sort of insulting the audience for paying to see all of these movies. | Nov 08 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing gets resolved. There's always "enough" of the Rebel Alliance or the Empire or whatever left to do another movie. | Nov 08 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | This ends up being how the US and Russia "fight" each other. Both sides could destroy each other, so they don't go to war. They can't go to war. They just wait until the other one gets ambitious and goes to war somewhere else, and then props up the other side of the war. | Nov 08 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | We blow you up today, you blow us up tomorrow. | Nov 08 19:07 |
| *gangster_og puts a rock in his pipe and smokes it | Nov 08 19:08 | |
| DaemonFC | This thing in the Ukraine though.... I mean, Jesus. This is bad even by Russian standards. They've always taken huge losses in their wars and just sort of expected it to happen. | Nov 08 19:08 |
| gangster_og | star wars is gangsta dawg | Nov 08 19:08 |
| MinceR | dogs form gangs now? | Nov 08 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes, they form packs. | Nov 08 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | And then they're allowed to raise a bunch of dark money and get Republicans elected to the government, and you can't ask where any of the money came from. | Nov 08 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why I don't trust dogs. | Nov 08 19:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 19:12 |
| gangster_og | DaemonFC: do you suck dick for coke? | Nov 08 19:12 |
| gangster_og | cuz i got a lot of dick | Nov 08 19:12 |
| psydruid | better to stay away from rabid dogs | Nov 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the trolling is increasing | Nov 08 19:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and trying to associate us with illegasl activity | Nov 08 19:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so we must be striking some nerves somewhere | Nov 08 19:17 |
| psydruid | let's keep striking nerves wherever we can | Nov 08 19:17 |
| psydruid | and whenever we can | Nov 08 19:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or trying to force us to ban | Nov 08 19:18 |
| psydruid | you know you can ban me any time you want | Nov 08 19:18 |
| psydruid | for whatever reason you want | Nov 08 19:18 |
| psydruid | but it will only make them win | Nov 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | my name is not elon musk | Nov 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I'd be banned if I changed me name to it ;-) | Nov 08 19:19 |
| gangster_og | Elon Tusk | Nov 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/07/twitter-will-ban-permanently-suspend-impersonator-accounts-elon-musk-says-as-users-take-his-name | Nov 08 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Twitter bans comedian Kathy Griffin for impersonating Elon Musk | Elon Musk | The Guardian | Nov 08 19:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Nov 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-bans-impersonation | Nov 08 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Furious Elon Musk Pledges to Ban Anyone Who Changes Their Display Name to "Elon Musk" | Nov 08 19:20 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | NOT the first time ^^ | Nov 08 19:20 |
| gangster_og | schestowitz[TR]: change your twitter name to Elon Tusk | Nov 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the past you could be banned for using his photo as your avater iirc | Nov 08 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | <gangster_og> Elon Tusk | Nov 08 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Well we're not different people! I'm just him with tusks! | Nov 08 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | bbl | Nov 08 19:21 |
| gangster_og | wubba lubba dub dub | Nov 08 19:21 |
| psydruid | lol | Nov 08 19:21 |
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| gangster_og | damn, i almost sneezed all over my crack | Nov 08 19:22 |
| gangster_og | its nice to see Rick and Morty fans here | Nov 08 19:23 |
| psydruid | "Do you want your account to be permanently banned and deleted? Impersonate Elon Musk now!" | Nov 08 19:23 |
| gangster_og | take off your pants and your panties, shit on the floor | Nov 08 19:23 |
| gangster_og | its time to get schwifty in here | Nov 08 19:23 |
| psydruid | Винни Пух will always be my favourite | Nov 08 19:23 |
| gangster_og | what is this witchcraft | Nov 08 19:24 |
| gangster_og | 19:23 < psydruid> Винни Пух will always be my favourite <- this witchcraft | Nov 08 19:24 |
| gangster_og | some kind of weird runes | Nov 08 19:24 |
| psydruid | not suitable for rabid dogs | Nov 08 19:25 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | serious hardware issues this past week | Nov 08 19:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | damn | Nov 08 19:33 |
| starstreak | that tends to be an issue when the computer is 20 years old | Nov 08 19:45 |
| starstreak | its usually a hard drive too | Nov 08 19:47 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | maybe cpu temps, but based on past 8 days' logs, not likely | Nov 08 19:52 |
| starstreak | https://memtest.org/ | Nov 08 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memtest.org | Memtest86+ | The Open-Source Memory Testing Tool | Nov 08 19:54 | |
| starstreak | you can try checking the ram | Nov 08 19:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | thanks | Nov 08 19:54 |
| starstreak | np | Nov 08 19:55 |
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| starstreak | im so jealous: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813546477414383646/1039610170000560218/unknown.png | Nov 08 20:02 |
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| AdmFubar1 | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/11/08/40k_teslas_recalled_due_to/ | Nov 08 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 40k Tesla cars recalled over patch that broke power steering • The Register | Nov 08 20:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | :D | Nov 08 20:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | did they change their name to "elon musk"? | Nov 08 20:39 |
| AdmFubar1 | :)) 40k elon musks have been recalled due to broken steering | Nov 08 20:41 |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-08/spyware-is-running-amok-in-europe-eu-lawmaker-warns | Nov 08 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Nov 08 20:41 | |
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| techuser | hi | Nov 08 20:42 |
| verbose | hi | Nov 08 20:42 |
| verbose | schestowitz-TR: remember MentalOutlaw's video "Politically Correct Tech", tx2v0Y9Ci7I at YouTube? | Nov 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 0/ | Nov 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | censored? | Nov 08 20:43 |
| verbose | deleted, but… he was black there | Nov 08 20:43 |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-showing-ads-in-the-windows-11-sign-out-menu/ | Nov 08 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft is showing ads in the Windows 11 sign-out menu | Nov 08 20:43 | |
| verbose | schestowitz[TR]: and look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9stBcuJgr8 | Nov 08 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P9stBcuJgr8 | Nov 08 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Improving Smartphone Privacy - Invidious | Nov 08 20:43 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-08/who-will-replace-evans-hankey-as-jony-ive-s-successor-as-apple-s-design-chief | Nov 08 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Nov 08 20:44 | |
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| verbose | s/deleted/set to private/ | Nov 08 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe for a reason | Nov 08 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like warning | Nov 08 20:48 |
| verbose | hmm maybe he still is black on that newer video? I am not sure | Nov 08 20:48 |
| verbose | The white balance is very different. | Nov 08 20:49 |
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| verbose | schestowitz[TR]: What do you think? I am not good at distinguishing skin colors. | Nov 08 21:02 |
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| verbose | If Michael Martin, the first man on the picture https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/06/02/blackinamerica-callout_wide-9d03e26ec3f18010d3ad5ccf475f90c7c72f9d43-s1200-c85.webp is black, then the new Mental Outlaw could be black, but I am not sure he is of the same color as on the old video. | Nov 08 21:03 |
| verbose | That old video: https://linuxreviews.org/File:Mental_Outlaw_-_Politically_Correct_Tech.webm | Nov 08 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | File:Mental Outlaw - Politically Correct Tech.webm - LinuxReviews | Nov 08 21:05 | |
| verbose | A picture comparable to the new video, with the old colors: https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Mental_Outlaw | Nov 08 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube.fandom.com | Mental Outlaw | Wikitubia | Fandom | Nov 08 21:05 | |
| verbose | Does he have very bad lighting because of the windows in the background? | Nov 08 21:06 |
| verbose | I guess when he turns his head it's more believable. | Nov 08 21:08 |
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| techrights-news | Trusting the UPC (Unified Patent Court) in the Hands of Tyrants Who Ridicule Courts? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/upc-epc-epo-and-iloat/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/upc-epc-epo-and-iloat/ | Nov 08 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trusting the UPC (Unified Patent Court) in the Hands of Tyrants Who Ridicule Courts? | Techrights | Nov 08 21:09 | |
| starstreak | verbose, i love mental outlaw | Nov 08 21:12 |
| starstreak | hes the reason i switched to arch linucks btw | Nov 08 21:13 |
| verbose | It's just that I checked his recent videos and thought he was white on them | Nov 08 21:14 |
| starstreak | does it really matter? | Nov 08 21:14 |
| verbose | not very recent | Nov 08 21:14 |
| verbose | well, he wasn't before :P | Nov 08 21:15 |
| verbose | and it was important in that old video | Nov 08 21:15 |
| techrights-news | EPO Isn’t Green and Isn’t Women-Friendly, That’s Just Another Distraction From Corruption | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/epo-as-staff-in-munich-responds-to-greenwashing/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/epo-as-staff-in-munich-responds-to-greenwashing/ | Nov 08 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Isn’t Green and Isn’t Women-Friendly, That’s Just Another Distraction From Corruption | Techrights | Nov 08 21:16 | |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] The EPO is GREEN! | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/epo-is-green/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/epo-is-green/ | Nov 08 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The EPO is GREEN! | Techrights | Nov 08 21:25 | |
| starstreak | https://tube.xy-space.de/w/kqraVhNYwpxYRF8L8sTBLp | Nov 08 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.xy-space.de | David Icke - The Reptilian Agenda (with Shaman Credo Mutwa) - PeerTube (xy-space) | Nov 08 21:28 | |
| XRevan86 | https://neuters.de/technology/elon-musks-net-worth-slips-below-200-billion-tesla-shares-waver-2022-11-08/ | Nov 08 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuters.de | Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver | Nov 08 21:36 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/using-wi-fi-to-see-through-walls.html | Nov 08 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Wi-FI to See through Walls - Schneier on Security | Nov 08 21:37 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft’s Accounting Fraud and the Clown Computing Bubble Will Make It the Next Facebook (Share Price Collapsed by 80%) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/accounting-fraud-short-term-vision/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/accounting-fraud-short-term-vision/ | Nov 08 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Accounting Fraud and the Clown Computing Bubble Will Make It the Next Facebook (Share Price Collapsed by 80%) | Techrights | Nov 08 21:47 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | AdmFubar1: thrown under a Tesla(R) Bus | Nov 08 21:47 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 8 Best Free and Open Source Graphical Mastodon Clients ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/8_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Graphical_Mastodon_Clients.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/8_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Graphical_Mastodon_Clients.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 8 Best Free and Open Source Graphical Mastodon Clients | Nov 08 21:48 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Nov 08 21:48 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): ChromeOS Redesigned shows us a possible future of Google's Linux-based operating system ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/ChromeOS_Redesigned_shows_us_a_possible_future_of_Google_s_Linu.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/ChromeOS_Redesigned_shows_us_a_possible_future_of_Google_s_Linu.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — ChromeOS Redesigned shows us a possible future of Google's Linux-based operating system | Nov 08 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Clonezilla Live 3.0.2 Comes with UFW Firewall in the Live System ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_2_Comes_with_UFW_Firewall_in_the_Live_Syste.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_2_Comes_with_UFW_Firewall_in_the_Live_Syste.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Clonezilla Live 3.0.2 Comes with UFW Firewall in the Live System | Nov 08 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter’s Elon Musk Imitates Freenode’s Andrew Lee | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/elon-lee/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/08/elon-lee/ | Nov 08 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter’s Elon Musk Imitates Freenode’s Andrew Lee | Techrights | Nov 08 22:08 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/08/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎ | Nov 08 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Today in Techrights | Nov 08 22:10 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-extension-lets-attackers-control-google-chrome-remotely/ | Nov 08 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Malicious extension lets attackers control Google Chrome remotely | Nov 08 22:17 | |
| AdmFubar1 | https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/australia-aims-to-force-corporations-to-report-which-countries-they-pay-taxes-to/ | Nov 08 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.icij.org | Australia aims to force corporations to report which countries they pay taxes to - ICIJ | Nov 08 22:19 | |
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| *gangster_og puts a crack rock in his pipe and smokes it | Nov 08 22:56 | |
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