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schestowitzand learns nothingAug 11 00:00
DaemonFC[m]She'd just say what about John.Aug 11 00:00
schestowitzJohn is on the JohnAug 11 00:00
schestowitzlet me know when I can report him to TSAAug 11 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Go ahead.Aug 11 00:00
schestowitzthey might ask for source/proofAug 11 00:02
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schestowitzI'd say, that's your problem, not mineAug 11 00:02
schestowitzyou're the TSAAug 11 00:02
schestowitzwith your 'super' record of stopping 0 terror plotsAug 11 00:02
schestowitzat a cost of what? 100 billion in 19 years?Aug 11 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Try $2 trillion.Aug 11 00:02
DaemonFC[m]For the whole of the DHS, that is.Aug 11 00:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Trump's trying to get Secret Service put back at Treasury.Aug 11 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Their main job is to investigate and prosecute financial crimes and counterfeiting.Aug 11 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Their job to protect the president came about kind of by accident.Aug 11 00:04
DaemonFC[m]The FBI didn't exist at the time and the US Marshals and Secret Service were just about it for federal law enforcement. The Secret Service was the bigger of the two agencies, and 2 more presidents had been assassinated since Lincoln, so Congress hurried up and made protecting the president their job.Aug 11 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Kennedy doing the motorcade through an unsecured are of Dallas in a convertible Limousine was just ridiculous. So much that I believe it had to have been planned to go down like that.Aug 11 00:11
DaemonFC[m]There were more attempts since then, most notably John Hinkley Jr. wounding President Reagan.Aug 11 00:13
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was looking at the results of the tests of different kinds of masks for protecting the wearer from the Coronavirus.Aug 11 00:15
DaemonFC[m]A cotton mask is similar to a surgical mask, but the upside is you can send it through the washing machine to sanitize it.Aug 11 00:16
DaemonFC[m]I was reading on Wikipedia that the cloth masks are commonly used in poor countries in healthcare settings, but they've been pressed into service as a last resort because of the scale of the pandemic.Aug 11 00:17
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DaemonFC[m]I believe they were last using cloth masks routinely in the US when my grandmother was a nurse in the 60s.Aug 11 00:17
DaemonFC[m]I asked my mom if she'd ever seen something like this in a hospital setting and she told me no. She was a hospital nurse as far back as 1981.Aug 11 00:18
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So that happened today.Aug 11 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Mandy was wondering why I was flooring it to get back home.Aug 11 00:26
DaemonFC[m]It spawned 7 tornadoes that touched down and at least a dozen more funnel clouds within 50 mile radius of us.Aug 11 00:26
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Some guy with a cross on his neck walked into Murphy without a mask on and just stood there.Aug 11 00:33
DaemonFC[m]I pointed at it and I said, "So I guess you're in a hurry to see if you're right or not.".Aug 11 00:33
DaemonFC[m]I hate going there but they have the cheapest gasoline in town.Aug 11 00:34
DaemonFC[m] 11 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US angers China with high-profile Taiwan visit - BBC NewsAug 11 01:02
DaemonFC[m]I'm glad that they're giving the One China Policy the middle finger.Aug 11 01:02
DaemonFC[m]That's something I agree with.Aug 11 01:02
DaemonFC[m]This is ridiculous that we, as a sovereign nation, get barked at by China about who we get to recognize as a country.Aug 11 01:03
DaemonFC[m]I really hope that anyone in Taiwan who thought about one country, two systems is taking a good look at Hong Kong right now and the "national security law".Aug 11 01:04
DaemonFC[m]"Taiwan is not a member of the World Health Organization, because it is not recognised by China or the United Nations."Aug 11 01:05
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DaemonFC[m]They're not missing much. Getting to pay dues to an agency captured by China that repeats China's lies.Aug 11 01:06
DaemonFC[m]There's just absolutely no way that China got the virus under control that fast once there was widespread transmission.Aug 11 01:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So we'll never hear about it because they're such a repressive regime, but they're probably having the same scale of problem that the US is.Aug 11 01:08
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DaemonFC[m]There's no telling when USCIS will call us for an interview. It took 5 months to get his work permit approved last time and if it runs out and they still haven't interviewed us, he loses his job.Aug 11 01:11
DaemonFC[m]So I have to send in a new application with the fee even if we don't end up needing it because the alternative is that he could lose his job if they don't get around to us before then.Aug 11 01:12
DaemonFC[m]Plus, while you generally don't have to rush to put a new application on file because the application itself extends the old authorization by 6 months, this year Trump is increasing all of the immigration fees, between 12 and 51 percent.Aug 11 01:13
DaemonFC[m]Work permit renewal went up by 34%, so it's a race to beat the clock.Aug 11 01:14
DaemonFC[m]Unless you just like donating your money to the government, you absolutely MUST get that application postmarked by August 25th.Aug 11 01:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The upside is that as a foreign student, he couldn't normally file for a refundable American Opportunity Tax Credit, but as my spouse, he gains the right to do that if he files with me and says he's a Resident Alien by the IRS's Substantial Presence Test.Aug 11 01:16
DaemonFC[m]So I went ahead and filed a joint return and took the credit, and now we have the Treasury declaring that he's a Resident Alien and they gave me $1,000, which I turned around and used half of to renew his immigration status.Aug 11 01:16
DaemonFC[m]Then later, the CARES Act did the stimulus and we got $1,200 for him too because Resident Alien married to US Citizen.Aug 11 01:17
DaemonFC[m]So it's a back and forth game.Aug 11 01:17
DaemonFC[m]They fuck with you using "rules". Fuck with them with "rules".Aug 11 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Then he was a student for half the year this year too, which means I get to claim another $1,000 next year for that.Aug 11 01:18
DaemonFC[m]Also, there might be another stimulus check.Aug 11 01:18
DaemonFC[m]So by the time this is over "Resident Alien" might mean that the government has paid us $4,400, which covers all of these bullshit immigration fees. Aug 11 01:19
DaemonFC[m]The tax return also serves as "additional evidence" that we are married.Aug 11 01:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's how you play the game. You tie their hands using their own rules.Aug 11 01:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm also getting ready to serve a filing on a court in Indiana and a prosecutor to expunge an arrest record there.Aug 11 01:23
DaemonFC[m]You can pay a lawyer to do it, but it's not difficult.Aug 11 01:24
DaemonFC[m]I'll be writing a letter to the Governor of Illinois requesting a pardon. I'm sure that it will be denied, but all it costs is putting a stamp on it.Aug 11 01:34
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Did you say anything to TSA?Aug 11 04:51
DaemonFC[m]Sorry for being reluctant to talk about it. I technically had a court supervision officer until today, but now there's no way they could possibly reopen that case again.Aug 11 04:52
DaemonFC[m]I didn't want anyone asking me uncomfortable questions while that was open.Aug 11 04:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: not yetAug 11 05:01
schestowitzI'll pass it though you firstAug 11 05:06
schestowitzHow's this:Aug 11 05:06
schestowitz"While researching for a report on arrest for child pornography at the home of Bill Gates in 2014 I happened to learn that a person called x, who according to the Daily Mail is employed by you, was in possession of child pornography. I learned a number of other things, but am unable to elaborate without harming a source"Aug 11 05:07
DaemonFC[m]Sounds good.Aug 11 05:10
schestowitzcan you remind me the surname?Aug 11 05:13
DaemonFC[m]SalinasAug 11 05:14
DaemonFC[m]I know his SSN if it would help them find him.Aug 11 05:14
DaemonFC[m]Also, his current address.Aug 11 05:14
schestowitzhe's on their systemAug 11 05:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, July 20, 2020Aug 11 05:16
schestowitzsentAug 11 05:19
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the downside is, DHS will spy on meAug 11 05:27
schestowitzand work I am associated withAug 11 05:28
schestowitzto gather cluedAug 11 05:28
schestowitz*cluesAug 11 05:28
schestowitzbut I have not been in the US for almost a decade and a half, so it's not like they can pester me all that muchAug 11 05:28
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: if you want to help further researching those 2700 pages... let me knowAug 11 05:50
schestowitzthere might be something worth saying, but need to think how to present itAug 11 05:50
DaemonFC[m]Link?Aug 11 05:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The NSA already spies on you.Aug 11 05:52
schestowitzI don't want to upload thosAug 11 05:53
schestowitz(thisAug 11 05:53
schestowitzbased on filenames, it seems like there was much more CP in there than he was convicted forAug 11 05:56
schestowitzbut the hashes just weren't on the DBAug 11 05:56
schestowitzwhich presents a new kind of problemAug 11 05:57
schestowitzLet's assume some of this was shared to Gates' mansionAug 11 05:57
schestowitzwhat patterns in filenames would you expect?Aug 11 05:57
schestowitzI already searched a few patternsAug 11 05:57
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "based on filenames, it seems lik"> What was the sentence?Aug 11 05:58
schestowitzvis-a-vis this whole thing:Aug 11 05:58
schestowitz[05:23] <schestowitz> > I’m hoping that publishing the existence of the FOIA request will put pressure on ABC to release it. I can’t imagine any other reason for them wanting both of his planes histories.Aug 11 05:58
schestowitz[05:23] <schestowitz> > Aug 11 05:58
schestowitz[05:23] <schestowitz> > Should be out in a few days, you’re welcome to put it on techrights when it drops too. I’ll send a link when that’s done.Aug 11 05:58
schestowitzSOmeone I know is chasing thisAug 11 05:58
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I will give you examplesAug 11 05:58
schestowitzthe following are UNrecognsied hashes from his disk/sickstashAug 11 05:59
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes the state only has to say "We can make it so much worse if you don't take this offer.".Aug 11 05:59
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 05:59
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\002boyzworld.jpgAug 11 05:59
schestowitzIt might not be pornographicAug 11 05:59
schestowitzbut...Aug 11 05:59
DaemonFC[m]It's hard to tell.Aug 11 06:00
schestowitzIdentified ChildAug 11 06:00
schestowitzTotal # of Files: 10Aug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
DaemonFC[m]A lot of porn studios purposely hire people who just turned 18 or people who look underage.Aug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\!!!!51ae7a57.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\000013.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\021 (4).jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\3 (3).jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\an22.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\lovetim01.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\lovetim02.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\lovetim03.jpgAug 11 06:00
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:00
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\timm0024.jpgAug 11 06:01
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:01
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\timm0039.jpgAug 11 06:01
schestowitzThose do not include the hashesAug 11 06:01
schestowitzwe don't we to publish the hashes even in IRC logsAug 11 06:01
schestowitzbut they managed to actually identify some of the kidsAug 11 06:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: well, good luck making it illegal for some people to be under-developed, naturally, in some areasAug 11 06:01
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the point of the next article can be, the real number of offending file may be a lot higherAug 11 06:02
schestowitzbut the hashes were not in NCMEC DBsAug 11 06:02
schestowitzhowever, the file names alone may not say if those are pornographic in natureAug 11 06:02
schestowitzhence you cannot tell for sureAug 11 06:03
schestowitzThis one is highlighted as NOT recognised hashAug 11 06:03
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:03
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\!shake.jpgAug 11 06:03
schestowitzand thisAug 11 06:04
schestowitzS:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated EvidenceAug 11 06:04
schestowitzFiles\zip\Extracted\!teentoy.jpgAug 11 06:04
schestowitznotice it is already "Deduplicated"Aug 11 06:04
schestowitzobviously neither them or me would see the disgusting stuffAug 11 06:04
schestowitzso they go by automated analysis of hashesAug 11 06:04
schestowitzJones got way too light a sentenceAug 11 06:04
schestowitzgiven the extent of the abuse and CP collectionAug 11 06:05
schestowitzso it has been widely said he got special treatmentAug 11 06:05
schestowitzand you can compare his to the sentence of lesser offendersAug 11 06:05
schestowitzwith trove like 100 times smallerAug 11 06:05
schestowitzcan you get background on him?Aug 11 06:05
schestowitzone person suggested he may have worked for Microsoft, but quite likely got the "wrong guy"Aug 11 06:06
schestowitzI think the fourth file gives you more background info on his, except car registration etc.Aug 11 06:06
schestowitzthat's redactedAug 11 06:06
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There's a Ryan J Farmer in Indiana.Aug 11 06:08
DaemonFC[m]The guy is a real shit stain.Aug 11 06:08
DaemonFC[m]In 2009 I think, he was arrested for sex with a minor under 14.Aug 11 06:09
DaemonFC[m]They only sent him to prison for like a year, but he's on lifetime registration. Aug 11 06:09
schestowitzit's possible he had 10,000+ CP objectsAug 11 06:09
DaemonFC[m]Every once in a while, he petitions the court. First to get out, then they denied it. Then to get off probation early. Denied. Off the registry. Denied.Aug 11 06:09
DaemonFC[m]You don't have to be connected to get a light sentence. He got the public defender.Aug 11 06:10
schestowitzyou see words like "cum" in some of the filenames that are of no recognised hash valueAug 11 06:10
DaemonFC[m]Teenagers are just like everyone else. Some are really perverted.Aug 11 06:10
DaemonFC[m]Put it out there intentionally. Aug 11 06:10
DaemonFC[m]John took videos of himself when he was underage and sent them to those gay dot com creeps.Aug 11 06:11
schestowitzThis is more serious becauseAug 11 06:12
schestowitz1) it involved key staff of BIll GatesAug 11 06:12
DaemonFC[m]He got costumes like "football player" and "military uniform".Aug 11 06:12
schestowitzI presume the person he entrusted to manage his PCsAug 11 06:12
schestowitz2) it's a 51 year oldAug 11 06:12
schestowitz3) this becomes more relevant in light of J Epstein leadsAug 11 06:13
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if Bill Gates actually uses Windows himself.Aug 11 06:13
schestowitz4) Gates Foundation claims to support kids, so this is highly relevantAug 11 06:13
DaemonFC[m]I kind of doubt he wants his own stuff spied on.Aug 11 06:13
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: if he did not, people would speak out. IIRC, he uses Android.Aug 11 06:13
DaemonFC[m]Those perverts all trade tips about Ubuntu and Tor and stuff.Aug 11 06:13
schestowitzsome people insinuated that for Internet connection he may have his own satellite linkAug 11 06:14
schestowitzIf he brought unsavoury stuff into his machine, he'd use an outside 'mule'Aug 11 06:14
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but Windows Defender would flag it.Aug 11 06:15
schestowitzOne possibility is that those unrecognisd files are pornographic  but not CPAug 11 06:15
DaemonFC[m]Unless he has some special version of Windows just for him.Aug 11 06:15
DarwinElfi forgot, are nicknames normally left in logs, or removed?  Freenodes rules are, if you're publicly logging, you must inform chatters like in channel topic or its site, or a bot, or when entering.  I'm not as picky as being logged as some, but am actually in the process of becoming 100% private on most social networks, and IRC might be next (maybe next year)... but I didn't get into a controversial topic, so no big deal for my case as of now (just Aug 11 06:15
DarwinElfthe general freenode rule)Aug 11 06:15
schestowitzThough given the veracity of this case, it's not "just another case"Aug 11 06:15
schestowitzDarwinElf: I think it used to say thatAug 11 06:16
schestowitzI've just checked againAug 11 06:16
schestowitzmaybe some time along the way when chan desc was rewritten it was droppedAug 11 06:17
schestowitzDarwinElf: typically we redact upon requestAug 11 06:17
schestowitzfrom those whom the redaction may affectAug 11 06:17
schestowitzlike if someone pasted a password by accident or some IP is logged somewhereAug 11 06:18
DarwinElfoh, you still have a channel site, so probably there, just the IRC happenings article is a new thing maybe...Aug 11 06:19
DarwinElfsite is in topic... no problem then...Aug 11 06:19
schestowitzI think it's mentioned in a number of placeAug 11 06:22
schestowitzsome people have been in this channel since 2008Aug 11 06:22
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I am not able to find "melinda", "vacation", "work"Aug 11 06:22
schestowitznothing of relevanceAug 11 06:22
schestowitzany mentions of "bill" relate to what seems to be subject rather than any connection to his employerAug 11 06:23
schestowitzso we don't have anything even remotely like a "smoking gun" thereAug 11 06:23
schestowitzthey scanned about 35,000 multimedia files, IIRCAug 11 06:23
schestowitzsome people ask me if he still works for Bill GatesAug 11 06:24
schestowitzand I cannot even say "no" because we hardly know anythingAug 11 06:24
schestowitz 11 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | TechrightsAug 11 06:24
schestowitz'After searching a multitude of King County criminal cases in 2014, all include an ORDER FOR WARRANT attached to a BOND except for this case. Jones’ attorney Jeffrey D. Cohen was also on another Child Pornography case in 2007 [07-1-04378-7] — in which the Defendant (a well respected teacher of 24 years) was caught with only 39 sexually explicit images of boys, and had a $10,000 bond placed. Jones, with over 6,000 images, including Aug 11 06:25
schestowitzpre-teen rape, was never issued that Warrant/Bond, but rather a slap on the wrist. Here is information on that other case covered by SeattlePI."Aug 11 06:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | MIT Media Lab head Joichi Ito resigns over Epstein donations - BBC NewsAug 11 06:26
schestowitz"The New Yorker alleges that Epstein helped to secure at least $7.5m (£6.1m) in donations, including $2m from Microsoft founder Bill Gates."Aug 11 06:27
superkuhOh no! Donations to MIT Media lab?!Aug 11 06:30
superkuhHow terrible.Aug 11 06:30
schestowitzsarcasm?Aug 11 06:49
superkuhYes.Aug 11 06:49
schestowitzHe wants something in returnAug 11 06:49
schestowitzI am writing something quick about this nowAug 11 06:49
schestowitzI just wanted to know the source of the emailsAug 11 06:50
schestowitzthe new yorker (conde nast) got themAug 11 06:50
schestowitzand originally published these, with redactions...Aug 11 06:50
schestowitzno idea where it got them fromAug 11 06:50
schestowitzand it may not matter what their source isAug 11 06:50
schestowitz"While MIT relies on the word of someone who repeatedly lied about his relationship with Mr. Epstein (refuted even by MIT itself), the record shows what happened just when Bill Gates’ own engineer faced conviction for pedophilia (the media diverted attention to Dr. Stallman just days after the above E-mails came to light)'Aug 11 06:53
schestowitzMaybe one day we'll get more leads on thisAug 11 06:53
schestowitzit's not as solved riddleAug 11 06:53
schestowitzbut with this big money in the pool there's room for obfuscationAug 11 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The anatomy of Bill Gates' Jeffrey Epstein-facilitated MIT donations - AxiosAug 11 07:22
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:22
schestowitzThe bottom line: The unusual was usual at MIT, it seems, whenever Epstein was involved. At one point, according to Farrow's report, Epstein suggested that the donations from Gates and billionaire Leon Black and might be matched by the Templeton Foundation — but then, the Templeton Foundation asked the Media Lab to fill out a grant proposal, according to emails provided to Axios by Whistleblower Aid, which represents former MIT Aug 11 07:22
schestowitzemployee Signe Swenson.Aug 11 07:22
schestowitz    Cohen was shocked: "I didn't realize this was going through Templeton's regular proposal process," he wrote to Ito. "We'll have to send them something that a program officer and the board find credible."Aug 11 07:22
schestowitz    The Templeton money never materialized in the end.Aug 11 07:22
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:22
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schestowitz# grep jones  /var/log/httpd/ | wcAug 11 15:52
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schestowitzit seems to be picking up now, as more people find out about those police filesAug 11 15:52
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: better late than neverAug 11 15:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux users are finally getting this popular password manager []Aug 11 16:14
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schestowitz 11 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fedora Infrastructure - StatusAug 11 16:56
schestowitz"New status major: abrt: read the infra status link at the top - koji: signing is down for services: ABRT Server, The Koji Buildsystem"Aug 11 16:56
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DaemonFC[m]ABRT is a joke.Aug 11 17:26
DaemonFC[m]Most of the time when something crashes it just says you can't report the bug because the crash data probably isn't useful.Aug 11 17:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Leftovers []Aug 11 17:34
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schestowitzABORT ABRTAug 11 17:56
schestowitzis that too github-hosted (for development)?Aug 11 17:56
schestowitz 11 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'Impossible to Stay Quiet': With Nearly 100,000 Kids Infected by Covid-19 in Just Two Weeks, Medical Experts Warn Against Hasty Return to School | Common Dreams NewsAug 11 17:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz The crash reporter in Ubuntu doesn't even make you create an account. It's not automatic, so you can see what crashed and if you agree to file a crash report.Aug 11 18:09
DaemonFC[m]In GNOME, it now has telemetry and it is on by default though.Aug 11 18:09
DaemonFC[m]So anything GNOME can send reports behind your back if you don't turn that off.Aug 11 18:10
schestowitzand firefox?Aug 11 18:10
DaemonFC[m]Same.Aug 11 18:10
DaemonFC[m]Sends not just crashes but if performance is bad along with what it was doing and what your OS and hardware are.Aug 11 18:10
schestowitz"telemetry"Aug 11 18:11
schestowitzthat's separateAug 11 18:11
schestowitzI forgot what moz calls its current crash reporterAug 11 18:11
schestowitziirc, it's microsoft-hostedAug 11 18:11
schestowitzthe code anywayAug 11 18:11
schestowitz 11 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: DARK Infographic. Some people are visual learners...@schestowitz Thanks for the copyleft article. Found the missing… 11 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: DARK Infographic. Some people are visual learners...@schestowitz Thanks for the copyleft article. Found the missing… 11 18:11
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz The crash reporter used to be proprietary. They inherited the one that Netscape used. Fullcircle Talkback.Aug 11 18:12
DaemonFC[m]You could get notalkback builds like I did.Aug 11 18:12
schestowitzI think there is a new oneAug 11 18:13
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="">Will Kahn-Greene: Socorro Engineering: Year in Review 2019</a></h5>Aug 11 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Socorro Engineering: Year in Review 2019 | Will's BlogAug 11 18:13
schestowitz<blockquote><p>Last year at about this time, I wrote a year in review blog post. Since I only worked on Socorro at the time, it was all about Socorro. In 2019, that changed, so this blog post covers the efforts of two people across a bunch of projects.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz2019 was pretty crazy. We accomplished a lot, but picking up a bunch of new projects really threw a wrench in the wheel of ongoing work.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz[...]Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzI redid how Socorro handles queueing crash reports for processing. Previously, it used RabbitMQ. I switched it to Google Pub/Sub. In doing this, I removed one of the components between the collector and the processor which was sometimes flakey, so that was good. This was the first step in moving all of Socorro to Google Cloud Platform.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz[...]Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzDuring the Buildhub and Buildhub2 audits, I decided that while Buildhub2 has a different set of issues with its data, it was better than maintaining two indexes. I wrote up a plan to shut down Buildhub, identified and fixed blocking issues in Buildhub2, and migrated projects from Buildhub to Buildhub2.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzThen we shut down and dismantled Buildhub.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz[...]Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzMozilla Location Services had been dormant for years. It was running Python 2.6 on Scientific Linux. It had a deploy pipeline that was several generations old. It was in an unmaintainable state.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzWe overhauled it, finished up the Docker-ization of the services, finished the mostly-done migration from Python 2.6 to Python 3, updated dependencies, reduced a bunch of complexity, wrote a lot of documentation, fixed a ton of issues, pushed out a new deploy pipeline and Docker-based infrastructure, and did a series of stop-gap fixes for processing.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Aug 11 18:13
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="">Mozilla VR Blog: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to Pico Devices</a></h5>Aug 11 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to Pico DevicesAug 11 18:13
schestowitz<blockquote><p>For more than a year, we at Mozilla have been working to build a browser that was made to showcase the best of what you love about browsing, but tailor made for Virtual Reality.Aug 11 18:13
schestowitzNow we are teaming up with Pico Interactive to bring Firefox Reality to its latest VR headset, the Neo 2 – an all-in-one (AIO) device with 6 degrees of freedom (DoF) head and controller tracking that delivers key VR solutions to businesses. Pico’s Neo 2 line includes two headsets: the Neo 2 Standard and the Neo 2 Eye featuring eye tracking and foveated rendering. Firefox Reality will also be released and shipped with previous Pico Aug 11 18:14
schestowitzheadset models.Aug 11 18:14
schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Aug 11 18:14
schestowitzSocorroAug 11 18:14
DaemonFC[m] 11 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump: 1918 Spanish flu 'probably ended' WWII, which began in 1939 - Business InsiderAug 11 18:14
schestowitz#dementia #impeachNOWAug 11 18:16
DaemonFC[m]From the man who bragged about passing a mini mental because he could remember 5 words.Aug 11 18:16
schestowitzlooks like us does about 700k tests a dayAug 11 18:23
schestowitzuk about quarter milluonAug 11 18:23
schestowitzUS ~50k casesAug 11 18:23
schestowitzuk ~800Aug 11 18:23
schestowitzfor one third the testsAug 11 18:23
schestowitzso US would be about 30 times worse IF it was a random sampleAug 11 18:24
Narrator 11 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@W_Nuclear_News: Fuel loading began today at unit 1 of the Belarusian #nuclear power plant, Russian state nuclear corporation Rosato… 11 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@W_Nuclear_News: Fuel loading began today at unit 1 of the Belarusian #nuclear power plant, Russian state nuclear corporation Rosato… 11 18:24
DaemonFC[m] 11 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump Says Biden Is Insulting Men Everywhere by Picking Woman as Running Mate in Interview With Clay TravisAug 11 18:40
DaemonFC[m]Trump says only men are capable of being Vice President.Aug 11 18:40
XRevan86That's a bit much even for him.Aug 11 18:44
DaemonFC[m]Trump lives in the 1970s in his head.Aug 11 18:44
DaemonFC[m]As recently as 1992, there was no women's restroom in the Senate. They had to add one because there were 8 women elected into the Senate in the term starting 1993.Aug 11 18:45
DaemonFC[m]Trump thinks tweeting "vicious dog attacks stupid n*****r for trying to go to school" is going to win in today's suburbs, which threw out 41 House Republicans in 2018.Aug 11 18:46
DaemonFC[m]He doesn't listen to his campaign people. Then when what he does is disgusting to 56% of registered voters surveyed, he fires the people he didn't listen to and brings in more people he won't listen to.Aug 11 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Also, campaign+PAC spending is favoring Biden. The campaigns have spent about the same amount because they're rate limited at how much they can collect, but PACs aren't.Aug 11 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Pro-Biden PACs have spent more than 3 times as much money as Pro-Trump PACs.Aug 11 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Of course, Trump is so stupid that he apparently got on the phone with Sheldon Adelson, one of the Republican Party's remaining "super donors" who usually busts out 9 figures all by himself in a cycle, to yell at him and say he wasn't doing enough.Aug 11 18:48
DaemonFC[m]David Koch is also traditionally a super-donor for the Republicans, but this cycle he hasn't given anything to Trump or his PACs.Aug 11 18:49
DaemonFC[m]Koch doesn't support Biden, obviously, but he's rich and he knows the concept of "throwing good money after bad". In other words, if he gives Trump millions, and there's 90% odds Trump will lose the election, it's millions of dollars down the hole that he could have given to try to shore up the situation at the state level or something.Aug 11 18:50
Narrator 11 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@postmodern_mod3: To the tech workers getting laid off: remember, you didn't just get laid off, you got laid off during a _deadly pan… 11 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@postmodern_mod3: To the tech workers getting laid off: remember, you didn't just get laid off, you got laid off during a _deadly pan… 11 18:50
Narratormozilla ...Aug 11 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla is just ridiculous.Aug 11 18:51
DaemonFC[m]They've gotten so bad that there's way more spam and bullshit in Firefox than most propritary browsers.Aug 11 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi has some default bookmarks and a Bing search default that you can change and that's about the end of it.Aug 11 18:51
Narratorwell, do you have any open source alternative?Aug 11 18:52
Narratorhmmm, vivaldi ...Aug 11 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Also, Microsoft doesn't put in a "Get Edge" banner if you search Bing for "vivaldi browser".Aug 11 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Or on MSN news if you are using Vivaldi.Aug 11 18:53
MinceRvivaldi is nonfreeAug 11 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, schestowitz, a vaccine will be a sorry charlie. Much too little too late.Aug 11 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Thanks to Trump's unmitigated disaster, about 600,000 Americans are getting infected per day even if we are only catching 10% of those infections with tests according to CDC.Aug 11 18:55
DaemonFC[m]At that rate, it's "Whatever happens happens, but the survivors will have some immunity and it really starts slowing down in another few months." Aug 11 18:56
DaemonFC[m]I saw an NPR article that suggested that other Coronaviruses caused serious disease the first time they happened and then turned into the common cold.Aug 11 18:57
DaemonFC[m]I don't know what to make of that. Half the media wants you to panic, and then Fox News is basically telling Republicans to go lick the handle at the gas pump because it's not a big deal.Aug 11 18:57
DaemonFC[m]The truth is somewhere in the middle.Aug 11 18:58
DaemonFC[m]It usually is. Aug 11 18:58
Narratorwell, if this just cold then the earth just get some break;-)Aug 11 18:59
DaemonFC[m]I'd say if Fox News is lick the handle at the gas pump and CNN is "WE ALL GONNA DIE!", Fox being 1 and CNN being 10. The truth is probably a 6 or a 7.Aug 11 18:59
*psydread thinks there is more of a chance to strip Mozilla's engine back to the bones and build a truly free and ethical browser, if Mozilla's engineers stop shoving more and more useless crap into itAug 11 18:59
DaemonFC[m]It's bad, sure, 11 19:00
Narratorwe need a mars spaceship not another crap in the browser;-)Aug 11 19:00
DaemonFC[m]The people getting the absolute worst of it are the Baby Boomers and what's left of their parents, and they gave us Trump and they get what they get. If it turns into a cold after it decimates the people who gave us Trump, then meh.Aug 11 19:01
DaemonFC[m]<Narrator "we need a mars spaceship not ano"> Trump is useful because he's such a coward that if there's the slightest danger he comes up with the best way for himself to run away from it. We saw that at the press briefing yesterday and when he hid in a bunker from the protest a couple months ago.Aug 11 19:02
DaemonFC[m]The fact that he's personally not even wearing a mask and is well known for being paranoid about germs is pretty interesting.Aug 11 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Most germs that we com into contact with are not serious enough to even notice because they've been around forever, but if you go make contact with some secluded tribe or something, the germs that aren't really much of a thing to us cause a serious plague for them. Aug 11 19:04
DaemonFC[m]The only thing that Europe is doing really is delaying the inevitable. As long as it's out there at all, the only thing you can do is slow it down, and even at that, only by killing the economy for the most part. If everyone wears masks and there's plenty of hand sanitizer you're still going to get a serious problem, and everyone will ultimately get it at some point. The UK isn't even really containing it.Aug 11 19:07
DaemonFC[m]Today is their worst day for new cases since June 26th.Aug 11 19:08
DaemonFC[m]I'd expect an upwards trend. Opening up dining  areas and paying people to eat out is probably not helping.Aug 11 19:09
DaemonFC[m]There's no restaurant subsidy in Lake County and while dining areas can open at 50% capacity, many restaurants are just not bothering.Aug 11 19:09
DaemonFC[m]Especially if their margins are low and they can't afford to keep paying staff to go clean all of the high touch areas after each customer.Aug 11 19:10
DaemonFC[m]So the restaurants that do have open dining areas are in big trouble.Aug 11 19:10
DaemonFC[m]They have to charge so much money now that, like. We went to Outback Steakhouse for our anniversary and it's normally $60 or so for 2 people, with dessert.Aug 11 19:11
DaemonFC[m]I get the bill and it's $84 before tip. Aug 11 19:11
DaemonFC[m]So they're slashing menus and raising prices, and so the fast food restaurants are coping with this much better.Aug 11 19:12
DaemonFC[m]They just close the dining area (and in the Walmart, turn off the ordering kiosks), and you can either use the drive up or you can stand in a parking space and order on an app and tell them what space you're standing in and they'll bring it out.Aug 11 19:13
DaemonFC[m]But 50% and clean everything between customers just doesn't work with low margins.Aug 11 19:13
DaemonFC[m]So they're in big trouble.Aug 11 19:13
DaemonFC[m]Normally, restaurant just wipe the table off between customers and pack the place, but that obviously doesn't work now.Aug 11 19:14
DaemonFC[m]If anything, the government at all levels from your local health department to the WHO have been like "Why are we paying you?". Someone needs to send in consultants to do "layoffs for optimization" over there.Aug 11 19:15
DaemonFC[m]Because spending a fortune and then 10 months later they're still saying they aren't sure about much of anything does not inspire a lot of confidence.Aug 11 19:15
DaemonFC[m]Maybe instead of huge budgets for these imbeciles, we can repurpose it to stimulus. Aug 11 19:15
DaemonFC[m]The health department does about as good of a job with infectious disease as the police do with crime.Aug 11 19:16
DaemonFC[m]The police solve about 7-14% of all crime depending on the area and according to figures that they, themselves, produced.Aug 11 19:17
DaemonFC[m]It's the government. Here comes big daddy government to make it all better.Aug 11 19:17
DaemonFC[m]That interview about the crime and looting in Chicago with the mayor was priceless. The reporter just quoted the POLICE CHIEF saying "We make arrests and the prosecutors and judges just drop the charges or don't do much and then the same people just come do it again because nothing happens.".Aug 11 19:18
DaemonFC[m]So the reporter goes "Mayor Lightfoot, it sounds like the problem is that the police make the arrests and then nothing happens.".Aug 11 19:19
DaemonFC[m]Mayor Lightfoot be all like "Don'tchoo sass me now!".Aug 11 19:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So I'm really between a rock and a hard place this election.Aug 11 19:20
DaemonFC[m]I can either vote for a Democrat that will make Lake County more like THAT or I can vote for the Republican that prosecuted me. Personally, I like me and I don't like people who make trouble for me, so that's going to have to be the tie breaker. Aug 11 19:20
DaemonFC[m]Then you see the videos of the thousands of looters hitting mag mile and they're literally all black and jumping up and down and side to side and realizing that they're on the news camera and running to loot some other store instead, where they pull out the handy dandy iPhone and post videos of themselves looting to FACEBOOK.Aug 11 19:22
DaemonFC[m]One of them was selling the looted items on her Facebook Marketplace account where she was posting that she acquired them by looting.Aug 11 19:22
DaemonFC[m]That's how fucking fucked up Chicago is with the Democrat prosecutors and the Democrat judges.Aug 11 19:23
DaemonFC[m]They post that they fucking stole the shit. They post themselves fucking stealing the fucking shit, and then they know that the state would have them dead to rights if this ever got into a court that cared, but it won't.Aug 11 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Posting it on Facebook should be the END of them. No plea bargain. Straight to trial.Aug 11 19:24
DaemonFC[m]What's wrong with this picture?Aug 11 19:24
DaemonFC[m]The Aging Liberal Hippie Douche democrat voters in Chicago set this up to happen and between the pandemic and the fact that the bridges have to go up every night now and the trains and buses have to stop to keep black people from the south and west sides of the city out of the Loop, I'm wondering if the city ever will recover. Aug 11 19:26
DaemonFC[m]The only thing they seem to be able to do is rate limit how many looters make it into the loop.Aug 11 19:26
DaemonFC[m]This is the perfect way to end up with Trump again because anyone that might have been focused on the pandemic is now looking at people shitting on police cars and doing Looting Selfies on Facebook.Aug 11 19:27
DaemonFC[m]Zerohedge is actually one of the only sites that is reporting on this in a factual and unbiased manner. Aug 11 19:28
DaemonFC[m]They are the subject of a GAFAM censorship campaign, incidentally.Aug 11 19:28
DaemonFC[m]You know why white people don't loot?Aug 11 19:28
DaemonFC[m]It's not that there aren't white people who are poor as shit and wouldn't steal things and burn cars if nobody was going to do anything.Aug 11 19:29
DaemonFC[m]But if it was white people looting the loop, the Democrat judges and the Democrat prosecutors would go 10 times harder on us because we can't play the "victimized minority who really needed a $500 handbag and a fur coat" card.Aug 11 19:30
DaemonFC[m]That's why we don't do it.Aug 11 19:30
DaemonFC[m]Things have gotten so far out of control here in the name of political correctness that Illinois is going the way of South Africa where at first it was just Truth and Reconciliation hearings and apologies and amnesties for prior bad acts and all of that.Aug 11 19:31
DaemonFC[m]Now it's black people murdering whites so their socialist government can take back their land and give it to people who just let it go unused while they wonder why nothing productive is happening there now and their economy is in the shitter. Aug 11 19:32
DaemonFC[m]White people don't have a "Do whatever we want and don't go to jail card." like the allegations usually imply. If we loot a store and the law says you can go to prison for that, that's what happens.Aug 11 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Frankly, probably the only reason that I wasn't hit with Hate Crime charges for that utter bullshit last year is because the prosecutor isn't a SJW.Aug 11 19:34
DaemonFC[m]So I'm torn here. I'm really torn.Aug 11 19:34
DaemonFC[m]The prosecution shouldn't have ever happened, and it may have been worse if we had a SJW saying "He scared a Mexican!".Aug 11 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Michael Nerheim is a fucking idiot, but it could always be worse.Aug 11 19:35
DaemonFC[m]Trump focusing on crime might fly.Aug 11 19:36
DaemonFC[m]It pisses me the hell off that Hellen Keller could prosecute this and the people in Chicago don't even try.Aug 11 19:37
DaemonFC[m]Even before the pandemic, I tried to go take Mandy to see the fireworks for the 4th of July last year and some black teenagers thought it would be funny to toss bird bombs or something into a crowd and cause a stampede where people were trampled because it was on a pier where your only choices were try to hide behind a ticket booth or jump into Lake Michigan.Aug 11 19:38
DaemonFC[m]They got charged with C Misdemeanors.Aug 11 19:38
DaemonFC[m]There's nothing good in that city. There's pickpockets, muggers, looters, rioters, and a bunch of little shits that think things like that are funny.Aug 11 19:39
DaemonFC[m]They act with impunity because of the left.Aug 11 19:39
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't even matter that there's more cameras in Chicago than London. They'll do it in front of the camera. The city is like living in some actual war zones by shootings and fatalities.Aug 11 19:40
*CrystalMath is now known as EpicurusAug 11 19:41
DaemonFC[m]The thing about crime is you'll never get rid of all of it, but if you undermine the justice system by packing it with SJWs, you'll have 5-10 times more.Aug 11 19:42
DaemonFC[m]It stops being about "This little shit that raped an old lady and stole her handbag." and about whether the little shit had good parents or the right education.Aug 11 19:43
DaemonFC[m]When you turn the perpetrator into the victim, you can't justify prosecuting them anymore. So the only people that the system worries about "rehabilitating" are the revolving door criminals, and the people who actually could be redeemed.....they don't even necessarily try.Aug 11 19:44
scientespsydread, its not possibleAug 11 19:49
scientesyou have to develop an entirely new languageAug 11 19:49
scientesand hopefully one that isn't turing completeAug 11 19:49
scientespsydread, this is what AAron Swartz was talking out with the semanitc webAug 11 19:50
scienteshe was WAY ahead of him time with thatAug 11 19:50
scientespsydread, also, many people don't realize how little is on the internetAug 11 19:50
scientesif you want to do any serious study you still need to go to a libraryAug 11 19:51
scientesmostly because of beaurocratic foot dragging, and not just in the form of copyright lawAug 11 19:51
scientesin terms of enabling creative energy the internet has been great, in terms of making more information available, not so muchAug 11 19:52 finially got a little ways in allowing people to "rent" books that they have scannedAug 11 19:52
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scientesand they also realized that if a VHS has not been rereleased on DVD that probably no-one cares about itAug 11 19:53
scientesbut it really is just that single groupAug 11 19:53
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DaemonFC[m]I'm going to file a lawsuit against the Illinois State Police if they don't let me reinstate my FOID card now that my case was closed as a dismissal and all the orders attached to it have expired.Aug 11 19:56
psydreadscientes, that's my biggest gripe with what the internet has become and also the funny thing is I keep going back to technologies from 20+ years ago (that I have never bothered to truly learn) combined with only some of the things that are available todayAug 11 19:57
scientespsydread, it is also a problem of attention spans. The internet is just not a good medium for writing something like a book, unless the topic is something computer-relatedAug 11 19:58
scientesas people struggle to concentrate for that amount of timeAug 11 19:58
scientesunless they have a physical bookAug 11 19:58
scientesalso the mind just works with tangible objects, and computers are too multipurpose for the brain to wrap its head aroundAug 11 19:59
scientesso reading books in a natural advertisement for writing booksAug 11 19:59
scientesand on-demand printing is a really amazing technology, that the broken university system has hindered rather than helpedAug 11 20:00 was saying it was easier to print books than it was to wharehouse themAug 11 20:01
scientesand that makes alot of senseAug 11 20:01
psydreadI understand what you're saying, I have a pretty big collection of physical books here too, although I am comfortable with reading electronic books on tablets/e-readers as wellAug 11 20:02
scientesI started reading a spanish translation of livius's history of alexander the greatAug 11 20:03
psydreadbut ideally not much else should be running in the background taking attention away from the main purpose, which is reading and acquiring knowledgeAug 11 20:03
scientesthat e-ink technology is niceAug 11 20:03
scientesas is the OLPC screen which has no glare and needs no back-lightAug 11 20:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, Mandy's EAD renewal is delivered to the lockbox in Chicago already.Aug 11 20:04
DaemonFC[m]I definitely beat the "postmark by 25th of August" requirement.Aug 11 20:04
scientesbut if books were printed like JW bibles, which can fit 1200 pages to fit in a pocket, then that's clearly more practicalAug 11 20:04
scientesin many casesAug 11 20:04
scientes(i'm talking about the 1980s printing, they added color and reduce the density in the newer printing)Aug 11 20:05
scientesits wierd to talk of a specific product like that, but those things really are amazingAug 11 20:06
scientesI think the only other thing printed like that is OEDAug 11 20:06
psydreadmy tablet recently died, so I'll be looking into some e-ink reader but I want it to run GNU/Linux (like the Pinetab) rather than AndroidAug 11 20:09
psydreadI think I have that with my copy of the ORD (Oxford Russian Dictionary), but I'm not sureAug 11 20:10
scientesthis one 11 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Read the Bible Online | Free Bible Downloads: MP3 Audio, PDF | NWT 1984Aug 11 20:12
scientesyeah I can't find a good picture that shows the pagesAug 11 20:15
scientesyou really have to hold it in your handAug 11 20:15
psydreadthis looks quite readable even here on my phoneAug 11 20:16
scientesthey also do their own printing which explains why you don't see much more of thisAug 11 20:17
scientesI would like to see them in on-demand printing, but it really is too much of a beaurocratic morass than such a political organization would care to be involved inAug 11 20:19
scientesand already showed that it doesn't require *that* much technical expertise, but moreso motivationAug 11 20:20
scientesand the basic librarian covenentAug 11 20:20
scientes(which actually was once the motto of Google)Aug 11 20:20
psydreadI've been worried that has been removing books and websites over timeAug 11 20:20
scientesits not talking about the internet archiveAug 11 20:20
scientesbut sureAug 11 20:21
scientesthey have to exist in a system, and that system is so disfunctional that their attempts to civilize it are in vainAug 11 20:21
scientesas you can see when they were basically the only force with the city of San Francisco against AirBNB in that big fightAug 11 20:21
psydreadit's sad but also ironic that what the US and also mankind needs more of is knowledge and education, so what if materials were freely available and people only needed to invest their time to learn new skills and become employable without racking up huge debtsAug 11 20:26
scientesthey will eventually be vindicated, but by that time no-one will care as they will have other things they have to think aboutAug 11 20:26
scientesit will be an event, not a process, when the US decided that no about of printing dollars will move the economy forward one inchAug 11 20:26
scientes*amountAug 11 20:26
scientespsydread, yeah the guild system is pretty resiliantAug 11 20:27
scienteswhich I learned because I had the privledge to buy a book from UK and ship it to GeorgiaAug 11 20:27
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psydreadI had lots of books sent back home when I was in India and I also gave my mom a list of books to bring back for me when she went thereAug 11 20:33
psydreadsome of which I'm still usingAug 11 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | "I'm sympathetic towards the people I subjugate." : LateStageCapitalismAug 11 20:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No, Americans Aren't Suddenly Flying Again, Despite What Airline-Stock-Pumpers Declare | Zero HedgeAug 11 20:45
DaemonFC[m]The 7 day rolling average of TSA screenings is still down over 70% vs comp.Aug 11 20:45
DaemonFC[m]Shows a dead cat bounce in air travel.Aug 11 20:45
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DaemonFC[m]The country went from being on high levels of lockdown mostly to having those lifted, but TSA screening went from down 95% to down a little over 70%.Aug 11 20:46
DaemonFC[m]This isn't sustainable for the TSA, which is going to want a bailout despite the fact that it might never call people like John back to work anyway.Aug 11 20:47
DaemonFC[m]Much of their funding still comes from user fees.Aug 11 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Uber Warns Of 111% Price Hikes After California Judge Rules Drivers Are Employees | Zero HedgeAug 11 20:52
DaemonFC[m]"Silver lining ... Half the Uber drivers in California are illegals that don't have paperwork to hold jobs here, working under their cousins 1099.  They'll have to go back to lawn care of the corrupt democrats estates .."Aug 11 20:52
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, now they'll just work off a stolen SSN from an American until the IRS looks into it, like they usually do.Aug 11 20:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.8.1, 5.7.15, 5.4.58, and 4.19.139 []Aug 11 21:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel 5.8 Gets First Point Release, It’s Now Ready for Mass Adoption []Aug 11 21:13
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schestowitz[18:55] <DaemonFC[m]> Anyway, schestowitz, a vaccine will be a sorry charlie. Much too little too late.Aug 11 21:29
schestowitzin some countries so many people have it already; they've given up trying to control itAug 11 21:29
schestowitzbetter to focus on the permanent damage done to past carrier at some pointAug 11 21:29
schestowitzMore than a quarter million tested for COVID-19 this past day, with about a thousand coming up as positive. That's one in ~250 among those tested.Aug 11 21:34
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DaemonFC[m]That's on the rise, correct?Aug 11 21:36
scientesthis style of LivusAug 11 21:43
scientesits so graniusaAug 11 21:43
scientes*grandiosaAug 11 21:43
scientesyeah he is mixing in the mythology of Hector by saying that Alexander tamed horsesAug 11 21:45
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: not sureAug 11 21:53
scientespsydread, the problem with all these electronic devices is that we are just pack rats, and we associate feelings with objectsAug 11 21:53
schestowitzdepending what % test positive in a dayAug 11 21:53
scientesand books are much better at that than computersAug 11 21:53
scientesfor our brainsAug 11 21:53
schestowitzwe do like a million tests a weekAug 11 21:53
scientesschestowitz, you mean that totally inaccurate PCR test?Aug 11 21:53
schestowitznot sure which testsAug 11 21:53
schestowitz 11 21:54
scientespolymerase chain reaction is not accurate for virusesAug 11 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fedora Infrastructure - StatusAug 11 21:54
schestowitz"Service 'ABRT Server' now has status: major: read the infra status link at the top"Aug 11 21:54
schestowitz""Aug 11 21:54
schestowitz"Service 'The Koji Buildsystem' now has status: good: Everything seems to be working."Aug 11 21:54
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MinceRscientes: build photonic computers thenAug 11 21:58
psydreadscientes, I agree, although I am happy with these degoogled phones with only f-droid installed. I still use plenty of books, which is especially an unbeatable solution when you don't have access to  electricityAug 11 21:59
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psydreadwe shouldn't rely on electronics exclusivelyAug 11 21:59
schestowitzlol, kamama as vp candidateAug 11 22:02
schestowitz#biden went for the least leftist woman as VP candidate, reaffirming his commitment to aim at GOP base rather than inspiring any young people or people on the left. Clinton made the same error. Wall Street first.Aug 11 22:03
schestowitzWife mobile number deactivated last month...Aug 11 22:05
schestowitzso now neither of us has a mobile number. Yay.Aug 11 22:05
schestowitzShe was not using it anywayAug 11 22:05
schestowitzand never carrying a phone aroundAug 11 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Young people didn't show up for the primary for Sanders.Aug 11 22:14
DaemonFC[m]Why would they show up in droves for Joe Biden? Lost cause.Aug 11 22:14
DaemonFC[m]Picking centrists who don't want much change does signal that he's not a "socialist" at all and may actually grab some Republicans that are done with Trump.Aug 11 22:14
DaemonFC[m]It's a calculated move. Also, there's no really well known Green and they have ballot access problems this year.Aug 11 22:18
DaemonFC[m]So even less incentive to appeal to the left.Aug 11 22:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bill Gates, at Odds With Trump on Virus, Becomes a Right-Wing Target - The New York TimesAug 11 22:25
DaemonFC[m]This was linked to by this.Aug 11 22:25
DaemonFC[m] 11 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates: Coronavirus pandemic will end 'for the rich world' by late 2021 - CNETAug 11 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Bill Gates. Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates thinks that.Aug 11 22:26
DaemonFC[m]He gave up being a businessman to be a philanthropist, which is how his fortune went from $50 billion to $100 billion since then.Aug 11 22:26
MinceR:>Aug 11 22:26
DaemonFC[m] 11 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York TimesAug 11 22:36
DaemonFC[m]"a brilliant and intensely private luminary: Bill Gates."Aug 11 22:37
MinceRlolAug 11 22:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Southpark Windows 98 - YouTubeAug 11 22:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Latest lawsuit against House Speaker Michael Madigan, ComEd seeks $450 million in penalties over alleged bribery schemeAug 11 23:13
DaemonFC[m]The Vladimir Putin of Illinois (House Speaker Mike Madigan) has been sued under RICO as part of the electric company bribery/patronage scandal. Aug 11 23:13
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: We can just progressively tax out way out of this mess, of course.Aug 11 23:14
DaemonFC[m]It's not like millionaires and billionaires can becomes citizens of South Dakota with a really nice apartment in Chicago.Aug 11 23:15
DaemonFC[m];)Aug 11 23:15
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DaemonFC[m]Many Illinois governors move out of state after their term ends. Some of their own accord and some with Federal Bureau of Prisoners Inmate Numbers. Details.....Aug 11 23:16
DaemonFC[m]*PrisonsAug 11 23:16
DaemonFC[m]If someone puts Mike Madigan in prison, there's going to be a feeding frenzy with just about every high ranking Democrat trying to take over the party.Aug 11 23:17
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DaemonFC[m]The state Senate exists, but you hardly ever hear about it. Mike Madigan consolidated so much power in the House that he pretty much has to sign off on anything or it never gets out of Committee there. Aug 11 23:19
DaemonFC[m]"customers’ bills are lower now than they were nearly a decade ago because of legislation passed by the Illinois General Assembly."Aug 11 23:25
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: yes, milking is always the solutionAug 11 23:25
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that would be the one that pumped in hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize the nuclear reactors they were threatening to shut down.Aug 11 23:25
DaemonFC[m]From tax payers. Who saw their bills go down while their taxes went up.Aug 11 23:25
DaemonFC[m]"The government passed a law and your rates went down."Aug 11 23:26
DaemonFC[m]Q: "That's easy. Change the fundamental laws of the universe." *yawn*Aug 11 23:26
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The more electricity you use, the more you benefit from the scheme.Aug 11 23:27
DaemonFC[m]So it basically took tax money and used it to subsidize rates for businesses that use a lot of power.Aug 11 23:27
DaemonFC[m]Who pays the taxes? Well, not them. They always negotiate it so they don't pay anything under threat of just shutting down the factory and leaving the state.Aug 11 23:28
DaemonFC[m]It's so bad in Lake County, that the 6th largest employer is Walmart and the largest employer is Lake County.Aug 11 23:31
DaemonFC[m]That doesn't include all of the other government "workers" around here.Aug 11 23:31
DaemonFC[m]Actually manufacturing things is 6.8% of the economy.Aug 11 23:31
DaemonFC[m]A lot of if it just retail and government pencil pushers.Aug 11 23:31
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The focus on people using welfare programs is misplaced.Aug 11 23:33
DaemonFC[m]Most of them actually have a private sector job where they at least do something.Aug 11 23:33
DaemonFC[m]The focus should really be on how many government "workers" are lazing about with lifetime jobs doing nothing.Aug 11 23:34
DaemonFC[m]That's really bleeding the public dry.Aug 11 23:34
DaemonFC[m]The state includes their economic activity as GDP, even though they don't create any GDP.Aug 11 23:34
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DaemonFC[m] 11 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cancer Treatment Centers of America CEO warns of 'shadow curve' of undiagnosed illnesses amid coronavirus | Fox NewsAug 11 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Oh, this belies the fact that CTCA is greedy and solicits to people using woo that has no effect on cancer. They don't take patients with any sort of regular or government insurance.Aug 11 23:36
DaemonFC[m]Some of the people they have convinced to pay big bucks there got terrible treatment and at least one of them reviewed the place complaining for several pages about just Maricel alone.Aug 11 23:37
DaemonFC[m]"Marisol"Aug 11 23:37
DaemonFC[m]It sounds like something Mexicans put in their laundry to me. Aug 11 23:37
DaemonFC[m]The only purpose of CTCA is to bilk cancer patients for every last penny. They think they're too good to just go see a normal doctor.Aug 11 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Then they get there and find out why CTCA paid for the plane ticket. It's like the timeshare salesmen of cancer.Aug 11 23:41
DaemonFC[m] 11 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cases of dog biting children 'surge' during COVID-19, study shows | Fox NewsAug 11 23:42
DaemonFC[m]Hmm, stay home and the dog might bite you. Go to school and maybe get shot by a hood rat with an Uzi (while Illinois is making me "appeal" to restore a constitutional right).Aug 11 23:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Christopher Arnold: The Momentum of Openness - My Journey From Netscape User to Mozillian Contributor []Aug 11 23:43
MinceRstop keeping dogs?Aug 11 23:44
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm considering putting something on my appeal form like "I find the idea of having to appeal to get a constitutional right back which goes much higher than the authority of Illinois both preposterous and sickening, considering that you have lost control of Chicago and none of the criminals there even bother trying to obey the FOID law."Aug 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]"But since the foul bureaucrats of the state have nothing better to do than invent crimes to charge me with out of whole cloth, here we are."Aug 11 23:47
DaemonFC[m]The organs of state security, MinceR Aug 11 23:48
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Release the vicious dogs in Chicago?Aug 11 23:48
MinceR:>Aug 11 23:49
DaemonFC[m]That's what Trump wanted to do, I think. Must be to protect the kids and chase the rioters out of the loop.Aug 11 23:49
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I need to watch The Boondocks again.Aug 11 23:49
DaemonFC[m]Those scenes with Uncle Ruckus are all so funny.Aug 11 23:50
DaemonFC[m]Ronald Reagan: "Do you know why there are different heavens, Ruckus?"Aug 11 23:50
DaemonFC[m]Ruckus: "Because two ******* and two quarters ain't worth a dollar?".Aug 11 23:50
DaemonFC[m] 11 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chicago Riots: Woman Shouts "I Can't Breathe" As She Loots Luxury Clothing Store | Zero HedgeAug 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m] 11 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cancer Treatment Centers of America Profile: Totals • OpenSecretsAug 11 23:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Massive Privacy Loopholes in School Laptops []Aug 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]Based on this, it seems Cancer Treatment Centers of America employees are doing a lot less political spending.Aug 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]They probably are having financial issues and gave up on trying to repeal Obamacare.Aug 11 23:54
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DaemonFC[m]Trump is the lowest amount they've ever spent trying to get a Republican president elected.Aug 11 23:56
schestowitz[23:51] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- | Chicago Riots: Woman Shouts "I Can't Breathe" As She Loots Luxury Clothing Store | Zero HedgeAug 11 23:56
schestowitzsounds like BSAug 11 23:56
schestowitztrying to generaliseAug 11 23:56
schestowitzand to mock people who protestAug 11 23:56
schestowitzas if they're all this ladyAug 11 23:56
MinceRmaybe they're trying to get their money's worth out of plants :>Aug 11 23:57
schestowitz[22:25] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- | Bill Gates, at Odds With Trump on Virus, Becomes a Right-Wing Target - The New York TimesAug 11 23:59

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