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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/XwCthF8.mp4 | Apr 12 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs | Apr 12 00:17 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: phoronix.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs | Apr 12 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Publishes Signed Ampere Firmware To Finally Allow Accelerated Open-Source Support - Phoronix | Apr 12 00:17 | |
| schestowitz | some kits, there you go | Apr 12 00:17 |
| schestowitz | but "only" a handful | Apr 12 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Than "AMD content" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs | Apr 12 00:18 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: phoronix.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs | Apr 12 00:18 | |
| psydruid | IBM/Red Hat <3 Nvidia | Apr 12 00:19 |
| techrights-news | 04/11: release of RebornOS 2022.04.10 https://rebornos.org/ | Apr 12 00:19 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: rebornos.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rebornos.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rebornos.org/ | Apr 12 00:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rebornos.org | Homepage rebornos - RebornOS | Apr 12 00:19 | |
| techrights-news | This ladder must be fake and sold considering how many workers, including managers, are fleeing Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-named-fortunes-100-best-companies-work-list-fourth-year-row | Apr 12 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat named to Fortuneβs 100 Best Companies to Work For list for the fourth year in a row | Apr 12 00:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Linux-based portable gaming PC has a few creative tricks up its sleeve" https://www.musicradar.com/news/valve-steam-deck-bitwig-studio-daw-vcv-rack-plugin | Apr 12 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve Steam Deck can run Bitwigβs DAW and the VCV Rack 2 Pro synth as a plugin: a gaming handheld that music producers should be interested in, too? | MusicRadar | Apr 12 00:21 | |
| techrights-news | "This may give the impression that Firefox would feel absolutely at home on the GNU/Linux desktop." https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-make-firefox-feel-native-on-linux/ | Apr 12 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Make Firefox Feel Native on Linux Desktops | Apr 12 00:22 | |
| techrights-news | "If you're looking for a way to better organize your Firefox bookmarks, the built-in tagging system might be a big help. Learn how to take advantage of this feature." https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-firefox-tagging/ | Apr 12 00:23 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: techrepublic.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-firefox-tagging/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-firefox-tagging/ | Apr 12 00:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to use the Firefox tagging system | TechRepublic | Apr 12 00:23 | |
| techrights-news | How to use Ghosteryβs privacy-minded Dawn browser | TechRepublic β https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-ghosterys-privacy-minded-dawn-browser/ δ· Source: techrepublic | Apr 12 00:23 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: techrepublic.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-ghosterys-privacy-minded-dawn-browser/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-ghosterys-privacy-minded-dawn-browser/ | Apr 12 00:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to use Ghosteryβs privacy-minded Dawn browser | TechRepublic | Apr 12 00:23 | |
| techrights-news | How to Install Your Own Federated Twitter with Pleroma - Make Tech Easier β https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-federated-twitter-pleroma/ δ· Source: maketecheasier | Apr 12 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Install Your Own Federated Twitter with Pleroma - Make Tech Easier | Apr 12 00:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Any code submission to LibreOffice should pass Gerrit code review in order to get merged into the LibreOffice codebase. This is possible using the code review tool Gerrit." https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/04/11/how-to-use-gerrit-code-review-effectively/ | Apr 12 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.blog.documentfoundation.org | How to use Gerrit code review effectively - LibreOffice Development Blog | Apr 12 00:25 | |
| techrights-news | What are Vim Modes? How to Change Them? β https://linuxhandbook.com/vim-modes/ δ· Source: LinuxHandbook | GNU | Linux | Apr 12 00:26 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: linuxhandbook.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhandbook.com/vim-modes/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxhandbook.com/vim-modes/ | Apr 12 00:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | What are Vim Modes? How to Change Them? | Apr 12 00:26 | |
| techrights-news | Implementing buzzwords https://devops.com/3-must-haves-when-implementing-devsecops/ | Apr 12 00:30 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: devops.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/3-must-haves-when-implementing-devsecops/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://devops.com/3-must-haves-when-implementing-devsecops/ | Apr 12 00:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Must-Haves When Implementing DevSecOps - DevOps.com | Apr 12 00:30 | |
| techrights-news | A buzzwords strategy https://www.suse.com/c/glimpse-reduces-time-to-launch-with-agile-devops-strategy/ | Apr 12 00:30 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: suse.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/glimpse-reduces-time-to-launch-with-agile-devops-strategy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/glimpse-reduces-time-to-launch-with-agile-devops-strategy/ | Apr 12 00:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glimpse reduces time-to-launch with agile DevOps strategy | SUSE Communities | Apr 12 00:30 | |
| bnchs__ | you've heard of DevOps | Apr 12 00:31 |
| bnchs__ | now HERE COMES | Apr 12 00:31 |
| bnchs__ | DEVSECOPS | Apr 12 00:31 |
| techrights-news | SUSE is pushing SAP's proprietary software AGAIN https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/ | Apr 12 00:31 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: suse.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/ | Apr 12 00:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Accelerate Your Cloud Vision. JOIN SUSE at SAP Sapphire Orlando | SUSE Communities | Apr 12 00:31 | |
| techrights-news | 2022.15 Wordling - Rakudo Weekly News <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/04/11/2022-15-wordling/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 12 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2022.15 Wordling β Rakudo Weekly News | Apr 12 00:32 | |
| techrights-news | "SmokeMachine reported on IRC to have found an unusual use of subset." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/04/11/a-subset-of-red/ | Apr 12 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gfldex.wordpress.com | A Subset of Red | Playing Perl 6βb6xA Raku | Apr 12 00:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Tyler Limkemann returns (after an extended absence) with a very nice article about how they used the Raku Programming Language to solve Wordle challenges. With plenty of code and theoretical background." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/04/11/2022-15-wordling/ | Apr 12 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: devDevs | Apr 12 00:33 |
| bnchs__ | now be prepared for | Apr 12 00:33 |
| bnchs__ | DevBallSecksOps | Apr 12 00:33 |
| schestowitz | MedveDEV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin-Medvedev_tandemocracy?wprov=srpw1_0 | Apr 12 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy - Wikipedia | Apr 12 00:33 | |
| techrights-news | "Hello, everyone --let's review the Apache community's activities from over the past week" https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-weekly-news-round21 | Apr 12 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache Weekly News Round-up: week ending 8 April 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog | Apr 12 00:35 | |
| psydruid | SpecialMilitaryOps | Apr 12 00:35 |
| bnchs__ | Microsoft(R) Presents | Apr 12 00:36 |
| bnchs__ | SpecialMilitaryOps | Apr 12 00:36 |
| bnchs__ | PLS GIVE US YOUR TAX MONEY!!!! | Apr 12 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | TAXOps | Apr 12 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lessons of Monday: | Apr 12 00:37 |
| *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot | Apr 12 00:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR | (also why I didn't post anything) | Apr 12 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mistakenly try to upload concurrently 150MB every 5 minutes | Apr 12 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | concurrently | Apr 12 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | you will suffocate your home networek | Apr 12 00:37 |
| bnchs__ | wow | Apr 12 00:37 |
| *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot | Apr 12 00:38 | |
| bnchs__ | i don't even upload that much | Apr 12 00:38 |
| bnchs__ | i can't say the same for most people in this country | Apr 12 00:38 |
| bnchs__ | suffocating my entire ISP | Apr 12 00:38 |
| bnchs__ | instead of a home network | Apr 12 00:38 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at how to install Flightgear on Debian 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE | Apr 12 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE | Apr 12 00:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE ) | Apr 12 00:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: it was a mistake | Apr 12 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | generated i | Apr 12 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a most bizarre | Apr 12 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | way | Apr 12 00:39 |
| bnchs__ | also privacy.gd is still dead | Apr 12 00:39 |
| bnchs__ | maybe a outage | Apr 12 00:39 |
| bnchs__ | or maintence | Apr 12 00:39 |
| techrights-news | "Most Arch Linux installers including the primary iso require an internet connection to complete the installation process but what if you don't have one well you're in luck because Arch Boot exists." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU | Apr 12 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU | Apr 12 00:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.weblibre.org | How To Install Arch Linux With NO INTERNET - Invidious | Apr 12 00:39 | |
| XRevan86 | Mariupol is not taken. | Apr 12 00:40 |
| bnchs__ | how to install arch linux with no internet? | Apr 12 00:40 |
| techrights-news | "Firewalls are made to protect the network from any threat by filtering both the in and outbound traffic and ensuring network security as well. The first thing when we talk about the 9 best open source firewalls is that they are free, well let us explain such a term for [Free] software" https://dekisoft.com/best-free-open-source-firewall/ | Apr 12 00:40 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: dekisoft.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dekisoft.com/best-free-open-source-firewall/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://dekisoft.com/best-free-open-source-firewall/ | Apr 12 00:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9 Best Free Open Source Firewall in 2022 - Windows/Linux - DekiSoft | Apr 12 00:40 | |
| bnchs__ | that's a dream | Apr 12 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: not in one bite | Apr 12 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | The Mariupol defenders claim that the chemical attack was not effective, and just three persons have severe symptoms. | Apr 12 00:42 |
| techrights-news | WTH is "Gaming Monitor"? Way to charge several times more for the same thing and bribe sites like "maketecheasier" for hype. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/lg-27-ultrascreen-gaming-monitor/ | Apr 12 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $120 on an LG 27" Ultrascreen Gaming Monitor - Make Tech Easier | Apr 12 00:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: they should catapultin it back to putler | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | it's a GAYMING MOONITIER | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | Boasting, aa | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | a | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | HIGHER PRICE | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | and NO DIFFERENCES | Apr 12 00:43 |
| bnchs__ | from a regular monitor | Apr 12 00:43 |
| techrights-news | "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 730 for the week of April 3 β 9, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/04/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-730/ | Apr 12 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 730 | Apr 12 00:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: try gaming mouse | Apr 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | gaming keyboard | Apr 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | gaming shoes for PC gaming | Apr 12 00:44 |
| MinceR | > WTH is "Gaming Monitor"? | Apr 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | gaming gloves | Apr 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | gaming pizza | Apr 12 00:44 |
| *schestowitz-TR gets a gaming teamug | Apr 12 00:44 | |
| MinceR | typically it has higher refresh frequency and shorter response time | Apr 12 00:44 |
| MinceR | which leads to lower input lag | Apr 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like those gaming wifi things | Apr 12 00:45 |
| MinceR | the one i have here also caters to TFPS players by having an option for adding a crosshair :> | Apr 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | which claim the connection is better | Apr 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | lower latency | Apr 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I bet you can get the same without Gaming(TM) | Apr 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | you just buy a decent machine | Apr 12 00:45 |
| bnchs__ | MinceR: i thought all the games already had that | Apr 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: "legit" cheating | Apr 12 00:45 |
| MinceR | the good ones have it | Apr 12 00:46 |
| MinceR | "modern" "tactical" FPS-es don't | Apr 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I only took 'a little' EPO" | Apr 12 00:46 |
| MinceR | or they have one that often disappears, or grows to the size of a house | Apr 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | tim swine-e's server gets kernel report about "unauthorised" monitor | Apr 12 00:46 |
| bnchs__ | be ready for the new fortnite pack | Apr 12 00:47 |
| bnchs__ | gaming monitor | Apr 12 00:47 |
| MinceR | fortinayti ile babacii | Apr 12 00:48 |
| techrights-news | Years ago FOSS Force spoke about the corruption of Linux Foundation. Now, after getting money from Linux Foundation, it does puff pieces for the corrupt Linux Foundation. SJVN effect. https://fossforce.com/2022/04/protecting-open-source-security-as-cold-war-turns-hot/ | Apr 12 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | OpenSSF Protects Open Source Security as Cold War Turns Hot- FOSS Force | Apr 12 00:48 | |
| bnchs__ | iybir ikis ikis ikis ikis ile GIRAAFIDADODINIII | Apr 12 00:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 00:48 |
| bnchs__ | i don't know how they got grand theft auto to sound like that | Apr 12 00:49 |
| MinceR | i don't know either | Apr 12 00:49 |
| MinceR | i know the subtitles are turkish but i don't know what language they were actually speaking in | Apr 12 00:49 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft, Microsoft... more than anything else https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/11/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog | Apr 12 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA | Apr 12 00:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog | CISA | Apr 12 00:50 | |
| techrights-news | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online tomorrow. | Apr 12 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 12 00:51 | |
| kingoffrance | literally from a cover/title page ignorat terminis ignoratur et ars and je sais que chaque science et chaque art a ses termes propres, inconnus au commun des hommes any fundamentalism type "plain english" "law" is "bad faith" by definition | Apr 12 00:53 |
| techrights-news | Destination Linux 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022οΏΌ https://destinationlinux.org/episode-273/ | Apr 12 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022οΏΌ - Destination Linux | Apr 12 00:53 | |
| techrights-news | Jussi Pakkanen: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch" https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/getting-web-proxys-and-certificates.html | Apr 12 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch" | Apr 12 00:54 | |
| bnchs__ | MinceR, https://youtube.com/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo | Apr 12 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo | Apr 12 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> vid.puffyan.us | fortnite or pubg 2 but other words - Invidious | Apr 12 00:55 | |
| techrights-news | "Because all Librem computers share are built on base OS/PureOS, there are many crossovers when it comes to software. Here is the guide you can use for all Librem Computers." https://puri.sm/posts/definitive-guide-to-user-documentation-for-librem-devices/ | Apr 12 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Definitive Guide to User Documentation for Librem Devices β Purism | Apr 12 00:55 | |
| bnchs__ | figured out his name | Apr 12 00:57 |
| bnchs__ | lilhancha | Apr 12 00:57 |
| bnchs__ | https://yewtu.be/search?q=lilhancha | Apr 12 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | lilhancha - Invidious | Apr 12 00:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββββ ββββββββ ββββββββββ βββββββββ avg(k/sec) 26.38 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 46.70β swarm size (avg): 347.15 β² | Apr 12 00:59 |
| techrights-news | How to Install and NSA shit on GNU/Linux β https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-ghidra-linux/ δ· Source: makeuseof | Apr 12 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install and Run Ghidra on Linux | Apr 12 01:04 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu News and HowTos β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163618 | Apr 12 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News and HowTos | Tux Machines | Apr 12 01:06 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox Nightly: These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/ | Apr 12 01:07 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: mozilla.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/ | Apr 12 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 β Firefox Nightly News | Apr 12 01:07 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163619 | Apr 12 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 12 01:07 | |
| bnchs__ | i used ghidra | Apr 12 01:07 |
| bnchs__ | yes i know | Apr 12 01:07 |
| techrights-news | Salix 15.0-alpha1 is release. But no message yet in https://blog.salixos.org/ | Apr 12 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.salixos.org | The Salix Blog | Apr 12 01:08 | |
| techrights-news | "To take advantage of performance improvements, the latest security-vulnerability enhancements, and bug fixes, we've upgraded JRE for Cassandra and Elasticsearch. Both, Cassandra and Elasticsearch will now use JRE 8u322. Other components will now use JRE 11.0.14." https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/DYNATRACE-INC-63216144/news/Dynatrace-Managed-release-notes-version-1-238-40023980/ | Apr 12 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dynatrace : Managed release notes version 1.238 | MarketScreener | Apr 12 01:09 | |
| techrights-news | Those are not "Linux" things; you are reinforcing misconceptions about what Linux actually is... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657050/demystifying-and-on-linux.html | Apr 12 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Demystifying &&, ||, and ! on Linux | Network World | Apr 12 01:10 | |
| techrights-news | Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs β https://hurricanelabs.com/blog/extracting-credentials-from-multifunction-devices δ· Source: hurricanelabs | Apr 12 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hurricanelabs.com | Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs | Apr 12 01:11 | |
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| techrights-news | Security Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163620 | Apr 12 01:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | yikes | Apr 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the DB shat itself | Apr 12 01:35 |
| bnchs__ | wtf | Apr 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it happened years ago as well | Apr 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | an innodb error | Apr 12 01:38 |
| bnchs__ | well at least it didn't happen like my ministry of education's website | Apr 12 01:38 |
| chunky | failed kindergarten + your shower never gets cleaned + u watch and enjoy LRH every week + hoes mad + u take yr socks off on airplanes + broken startup scripts + you use mac | Apr 12 01:39 |
| MinceR | lol @ LRH | Apr 12 01:39 |
| bnchs__ | wtf is LRH | Apr 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86 is good at these things | Apr 12 01:40 |
| MinceR | lafayette ronald hubbard, cult founder | Apr 12 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | What things? | Apr 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I will share with you excerpts | Apr 12 01:41 |
| bnchs__ | <chunky> [...] broken startup scripts + you use mac | Apr 12 01:41 |
| bnchs__ | very accurate | Apr 12 01:41 |
| MinceR | i don't know if crapOS uses scripts in its startup, but it is broken :> | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: sunday morning: | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | d | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:45 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:47 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 44233 | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:47 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:47 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 [Warning] '--log_slow_queries' is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use ''--slow_query_log'/'--slow_query_log_file'' instead. | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 8.0M | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 44233 | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 [Note] Event Scheduler: Loaded 0 events | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | 220410 11:17:49 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | that led to a very slightly odd behaviour. so I noticed that | Apr 12 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This is perfectly clean. Apart from the deprecation warning. | Apr 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | then, half an hour ago: | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | n | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | 220412 0:15:17 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | 220412 0:15:17 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it | Apr 12 01:43 |
| XRevan86 | MyISAM? Oh boy. | Apr 12 01:43 |
| MinceR | maybe mysql wants you to switch to postgres :> | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | drupal.node | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | error : Can't read key block from filepos: 10805248 | Apr 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | error : Found key at page 1629184 that points to record outside datafile | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Error : Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | status : Operation failed | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | drupal.node_access OK | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | drupal.node_comment_statistics | Apr 12 01:44 |
| bnchs__ | IT'S OVER | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | warning : Can't change size of indexfile, error: 5 | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | status : OK | Apr 12 01:44 |
| XRevan86 | MyISAM has repair utilities, they are lossy of course. | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Repairing tables | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | drupal.node | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | warning : Can't change size of indexfile, error: 5 | Apr 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | status : OK | Apr 12 01:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: postgres is the best DBMS, but this isn't really mysql's fault, this is legacy. | Apr 12 01:45 |
| schestowitz | my last "good" backup, assuming before the sunday night thing, is sunday 5am | Apr 12 01:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 01:45 |
| XRevan86 | My closest experience with MyISAM was when I was migrating MyISAM tables to InnoDB. | Apr 12 01:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 01:45 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz, you can try doing "perror 5" | Apr 12 01:46 |
| bnchs__ | to get more information about the error code | Apr 12 01:46 |
| chunky | your grandma is 40 + ur house has roaches + your links r 404 + you save forums as a pdf + u went to fyre feast + u breathe loud as fuck | Apr 12 01:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 12 01:46 |
| XRevan86 | I guess a good idea would be to figure out what the "node" table is about. | Apr 12 01:46 |
| schestowitz | it's the table with all the posts | Apr 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | a similar situation happened a couple of time years ago | Apr 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | the simplest fix was, | Apr 12 01:47 |
| chunky | u have a favorite commercial + u pay for pornhub + u still wear covid masks + your blogs are retarded + go outside + car infested with squirrels | Apr 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | restore from backup | Apr 12 01:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Was that the time when I recommended to you to migrate to InnoDB? | Apr 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | then readd the missing nodes | Apr 12 01:47 |
| XRevan86 | I'm pretty sure I said it at least once. | Apr 12 01:47 |
| bnchs__ | <chunky> [...] u went to fyre feast [...] | Apr 12 01:47 |
| bnchs__ | i still haven't recovered | Apr 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: maybe this is a good opportunity to update the whole OS, Ariadne? | Apr 12 01:48 |
| chunky | the typo gives it character | Apr 12 01:48 |
| schestowitz | I can move everything there, then load a better DB and import the latest good backup into that | Apr 12 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The database is not going to migrate itself regardless of the OS. | Apr 12 01:48 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but the mysql dump would, I think | Apr 12 01:49 |
| XRevan86 | Unless it explicitly mentions "ENGINE = 'MyISAM'" | Apr 12 01:49 |
| XRevan86 | (not verbatim) | Apr 12 01:49 |
| schestowitz | though in the past we got the same issue when importing this site's dump onto a newwe version of mariadb/mysql | Apr 12 01:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ah, maybe that's why it did not work when we tried | Apr 12 01:50 |
| schestowitz | we tried several times | Apr 12 01:50 |
| Π£Π Π | my computer instead of shuting down is rebooting | Apr 12 01:50 |
| Π£Π Π | linux is crazy | Apr 12 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | mysqldump will preserve the selected engine, because it's a back-up after all, it won't lose the engine information willy-nilly. | Apr 12 01:50 |
| bnchs__ | Π£Π Π: what did you do | Apr 12 01:51 |
| Π£Π Π | nothing | Apr 12 01:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: that's good to know, thanls | Apr 12 01:51 |
| Π£Π Π | at least its booting | Apr 12 01:51 |
| schestowitz | that would likely explain why we failed to export the DB to a more modern DB server | Apr 12 01:51 |
| Π£Π Π | i was giving me a had time booting | Apr 12 01:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: is there a means for conversion? | Apr 12 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | It would import successfully, it just won't improve. | Apr 12 01:51 |
| Π£Π Π | now it boots ok it just foesent shutdown ok | Apr 12 01:52 |
| schestowitz | there's 18 years of data in it | Apr 12 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I guess it's our biggest technical debt | Apr 12 01:52 |
| Π£Π Π | i blame google for it | Apr 12 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Either ALTER TABLE with ENGINE = 'InnoDB' and then back-up (time-intensive to do both), or patch the back-up file to mention "InnoDB" instead of "MyISAM". | Apr 12 01:53 |
| Π£Π Π | i bet its elon musk having fun at my expense | Apr 12 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | s/MyISAM/InnoDB/g won't do because that will also mess up the data. | Apr 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: :-( | Apr 12 01:54 |
| schestowitz | so no simple .dump -> .dump for another storage engine? | Apr 12 01:54 |
| chunky | u buy cigarettes online + u use library internet + u make everyone depresed + yr mom is attracted to u + dick so small cant even hit the IUD + u do this meme all day + get a fucking life + ur mom chugs hand sanitizer + overdosed on herbal ecstasy | Apr 12 01:54 |
| schestowitz | tbh, I don't mind re-adding a day's worth of nodes | Apr 12 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm not aware of mysqldump being capable to replace stuff on the fly. | Apr 12 01:55 |
| bnchs__ | "yr mom is attracted to u + dick so small cant even hit the IUD" | Apr 12 01:55 |
| bnchs__ | ok now that doesn't make sense | Apr 12 01:55 |
| schestowitz | if we can at least evacuate the DB to a more modern machine | Apr 12 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: are you around? | Apr 12 01:55 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: let's just say I have a working backup, pre-incident | Apr 12 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also remember that "SHOW TABLE STATUS" will show all the relevant information about the tables in the current database. | Apr 12 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | One can overview it and then ALTER TABLE the relevant tables. | Apr 12 01:56 |
| chunky | u like seagulls (dumb) + no1 noticed u were here + u draw on money + u believe popups that say u have a virus + cheap cologne + u breathe loud as fuck | Apr 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | it's possible that this morning's backup is in OK state too | Apr 12 01:57 |
| schestowitz | because you said that Sunday warning did not indicate a fatal panic | Apr 12 01:57 |
| Π£Π Π | chunky is a racist pig | Apr 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | at the moment we have a poorly 'repaired' DB | Apr 12 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββ βββββ βββ βββββββ ββββββββββ ββββββ avg(k/sec) 20.40 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 56.16β swarm size (avg): 323.76 β² | Apr 12 01:59 |
| chunky | Π£Π Π: i am not wtf | Apr 12 01:59 |
| Π£Π Π | you didnt upload your DB backup to ipfs? | Apr 12 01:59 |
| schestowitz | I have two backups from this morning, 4am and 5am. Bur the Sunday 5am one seems 'safer' to try | Apr 12 02:00 |
| psydruid | ΠΡΠ½ Π‘Π²ΠΈΠ½Ρ | Apr 12 02:00 |
| schestowitz | but we've long had an issue with this DB as the moment we export it to a newer installation it would then break itself when modified | Apr 12 02:00 |
| schestowitz | likely, as you noted, since the storage engine isn't set "properly" | Apr 12 02:01 |
| schestowitz | but we deal with almost 20 years of work here, and could really use a way to 'modernise' the DB, XRevan86 | Apr 12 02:01 |
| Π£Π Π | ΠΡΠ»ΡΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠ²ΠΈΠ½Π΅ΠΉ Ρ ΡΠ°ΡΠΈΡΡΠ°ΠΌΠΈ. | Apr 12 02:02 |
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| Π£Π Π | ypu upload it to IPFS and let the community solve it | Apr 12 02:04 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: if you had to choose a backup, would you choose the one from sunday morning before the first little panic? | Apr 12 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: As MinceR pointed out, the ultimate modernisation is to use mysql_fdw and migrate to postgres :) | Apr 12 02:04 |
| psydruid | Π¦Π΅ ΠΏΡΠ°Π²Π΄Π° | Apr 12 02:05 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That sounds reasonable. | Apr 12 02:05 |
| schestowitz | let's say this version of drupal does not support postgres | Apr 12 02:05 |
| schestowitz | (I don't think it does) | Apr 12 02:06 |
| schestowitz | I could, at the moment, revert back to the sunday morning backup | Apr 12 02:06 |
| schestowitz | but I thought of having a go at moving to a whole new OS for the site during easter | Apr 12 02:06 |
| schestowitz | so this is an opportunity, too | Apr 12 02:07 |
| chunky | im not strung out enough to chat with u + u tried on a burka + no one talks to u on omegle + u listen to kpop + you dont even skate + micropenis + u watch yoga pants vids | Apr 12 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | I'm going to sleep though. | Apr 12 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | Is chunky a person? | Apr 12 02:07 |
| chunky | sup | Apr 12 02:07 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ok, thank you | Apr 12 02:08 |
| psydruid | ΠΡ, Π²ΡΠ½ ΡΠ²ΠΈΠ½Ρ | Apr 12 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | ΠΡ Ρ ΠΎΡΠ° Π±ΠΈ ΠΆΠΈΠ²Π°, Π° Π½Π΅ ΡΠΎΠ±ΠΎΡ? | Apr 12 02:09 |
| kingoffrance | i was hoping chunky would bust out some rhymes | Apr 12 02:09 |
| chunky | u pay for youtube premium + u shower with sister + save hot water + cant bbq + don't care + your mom fucks your friends + u pay for pornhub | Apr 12 02:10 |
| psydruid | Ρ Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΏΠ΅Π²Π½Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ | Apr 12 02:10 |
| Π£Π Π | fucking script kifs | Apr 12 02:10 |
| Π£Π Π | script kids | Apr 12 02:10 |
| chunky | :( | Apr 12 02:10 |
| chunky | lighten up pal | Apr 12 02:10 |
| chunky | have some FUN | Apr 12 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Π’Π° Ρ Ρ ΡΠ΅ΠΆβ¦ | Apr 12 02:11 |
| psydruid | just ignore him in your client | Apr 12 02:11 |
| Π£Π Π | why you whont let me? | Apr 12 02:11 |
| chunky | u think anonymous is cool + your dad fucked my ass + proactiv didnt work for u + u thought invading iraq was a good idea + all ur memes are deepfried + micropenis + irrelevant | Apr 12 02:11 |
| psydruid | until someone here sees the light and bans him | Apr 12 02:11 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: I think MinceR should actually consider. | Apr 12 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is time. | Apr 12 02:12 |
| chunky | MODS!!!!! BAN THIS EVIL PERSON!!! | Apr 12 02:12 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, he could have done so a long time ago, if he wanted | Apr 12 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | I'm impressed, that looked coherent. | Apr 12 02:13 |
| psydruid | not evil, just stupid beyond limits | Apr 12 02:13 |
| chunky | yea well.. | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | u watch hentai (weeb) + u talk to mormons that come to your house + irrelevant + u wear a bath robe + u were born with herpes + proactiv didnt work for u + ur dehydated | Apr 12 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | What is a sign that someone should get banned? When they fail to string a sentence together? | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | i can string so many sentences together dude | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | i can string them all around you | Apr 12 02:14 |
| MinceR | chunky: yeah, but can you make them make sense? | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | you'll be covered in strings that are actually sentences | Apr 12 02:14 |
| psydruid | if this is the best LF and friends can do, they need to try harder | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | gonna be fun | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | sounds like a party tbh | Apr 12 02:14 |
| Π£Π Π | pig talk | Apr 12 02:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 02:14 |
| chunky | what's LF? | Apr 12 02:15 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: https://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/22684/drupal-6-database-has-mixed-innodb-myisam-need-to-fix-before-migration | Apr 12 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drupal.stackexchange.com | Drupal 6 database has mixed InnoDB & MyISAM. Need to fix before migration - Drupal Answers | Apr 12 02:15 | |
| Π£Π Π | low life | Apr 12 02:15 |
| kingoffrance | linux foundation | Apr 12 02:15 |
| chunky | ah | Apr 12 02:16 |
| chunky | you guys do kernel stuff? | Apr 12 02:16 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.drupal.org/node/95364 https://www.drupal.org/project/dbtuner | Apr 12 02:16 |
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| chunky | any thoughts on io_uring? | Apr 12 02:16 |
| kingoffrance | long ago there was free software, and then there was open source, and now its just a confusion of tongues :D | Apr 12 02:17 |
| schestowitz | db tuner deprecated like 8 years ago | Apr 12 02:17 |
| chunky | long ago there was free software, and then there was open source, and now there's both | Apr 12 02:17 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: if you're still about, any way of running things with MyISAM on a modern OS? | Apr 12 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I never said MyISAM won't run. | Apr 12 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | It's just not a reliable way of storing information. | Apr 12 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | right, thanks. | Apr 12 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so a modern OS can be configured to use it? | Apr 12 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | we typically make backup dumps each morning, locally and remotely | Apr 12 02:20 |
| chunky | slipknot + u still wear your highschool football jersey + career complainer + ratio'd + u have mold under your sink + u pay for cable + u bought fake kratom | Apr 12 02:20 |
| Π£Π Π | are you using mango or maria DB? | Apr 12 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: MariaDB and Oracle MySQL both maintain compatibility. | Apr 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, OK, so if I were to install them, I just need to set some flag right? | Apr 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that would be done separately from handling the DB dump? | Apr 12 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's no flag. | Apr 12 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | MyISAM tables will just work (badly, but that's just their nature). | Apr 12 02:22 |
| bnchs__ | gn | Apr 12 02:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | when we imported this DB about 2 years ago it was failing the moment I added new nodes | Apr 12 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | everything else seemed OK, when importing, but when Drupal got used it would break. We tried 2-3 times. | Apr 12 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | So the goal is to preserve all site data (18 years) while moving to a modern OS. | Apr 12 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | MyISAM was "good enough" to come this far | Apr 12 02:24 |
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| Π£Π Π | you should use bleachbit and start anew | Apr 12 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need solutions, not jokes | Apr 12 02:27 |
| chunky | cancelled + u read articles about celebs + u think u 'have a connection' with the stripper + micropenis + u punch holes in your walls + u own collectibles + u use telegram + u draw on money | Apr 12 02:28 |
| AdmFubar | schestowitz-TR: did you check aria for a db replacement? | Apr 12 02:29 |
| Π£Π Π | all i know aboutΒ MyISAM is that its an exploit waiting to happen | Apr 12 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not | Apr 12 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now I officially own a luxury car. | Apr 12 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 12 02:30 |
| Π£Π Π | how much CO2 per galon? | Apr 12 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | The old lady that owned it before me drove it over a curb and fucked up the front suspension too, so they had to do a front end rebuild on it. | Apr 12 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Rides like a dream. | Apr 12 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | <Π£Π Π> how much CO2 per galon? | Apr 12 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | That would be consistent among all cars. | Apr 12 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | You mean how much CO2 per mile driven? | Apr 12 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | Who knows. It's a 3800 V6 Series III so probably a lot. | Apr 12 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather buy more gas than deal with an aluminum and plastic engine. | Apr 12 02:32 |
| Π£Π Π | no luxury cars release more CO2 per galon | Apr 12 02:32 |
| XRevan86 | Π£Π Π: Aria is better, but InnoDB would still be a better fit for this type of table. | Apr 12 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Well, with aluminum and plastic, you can't win on TCO vs. an old gas guzzler. | Apr 12 02:32 |
| MinceR | how much CO2 does a BMW release while burning into a pile of ash? | Apr 12 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | Just warming it up and cooling it back down fatigues the plastic intakes. | Apr 12 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> how much CO2 does a BMW release while burning into a pile of ash? | Apr 12 02:33 |
| Π£Π Π | XRevan86 pick one that you can port in another 5 years | Apr 12 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | With a BMW, you _can_ keep the engine going a long time, but few of them listen to the mechanic when they tell them how you manage that. | Apr 12 02:33 |
| MinceR | just don't start it, ever | Apr 12 02:33 |
| MinceR | keep it in a garage | Apr 12 02:33 |
| MinceR | better yet, don't even buy it | Apr 12 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | You basically have to proactively replace the entire cooling system every 7 years or 75,000 miles, MinceR | Apr 12 02:34 |
| MinceR | as for plastic parts, some manufacturers manage to get away with them | Apr 12 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's VERY expensive, so then their engine gets destroyed the first time it overheats. | Apr 12 02:34 |
| MinceR | just not the germans | Apr 12 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | And they need a new engine PLUS a cooling system. | Apr 12 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The 3800 V6 has some quirks, but the later models were very reliable overall. | Apr 12 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Cheap to fix. | Apr 12 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | It was ranked one of the top 10 engines of the 20th century. | Apr 12 02:35 |
| Π£Π Π | so they are perfect cars for innuits | Apr 12 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Though GM improved it again in 2005. | Apr 12 02:35 |
| AdmFubar | https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-youre-muted-videoconferencing-apps-mic.html | Apr 12 02:35 |
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| DaemonFC | Better connecting rods. | Apr 12 02:35 |
| MinceR | usually i just used the hw mute switch on my headset | Apr 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I have it scheduled back into the shop on Wednesday. | Apr 12 02:36 |
| MinceR | good luck listening through that :> | Apr 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Coolant and transmission flush and oil change. | Apr 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'm picking up a new AGM style car battery too eventually. | Apr 12 02:36 |
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| DaemonFC | I was talking to Shaq about that and said "Well, I always flush the coolant and get the transmission serviced after I buy a used car. Sometimes a new S-belt right away too, but this one looks fine. In the long run, it's a lot cheaper than what continuing to run old fluid will do.". | Apr 12 02:37 |
| chunky | lmao | Apr 12 02:38 |
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| schestowitz | "The USE_FRM option is available for use if the .MYI index file is missing or if its header is corrupted. This option tells MySQL not to trust the information in the .MYI file header and to re-create it using information from the .frm file. This kind of repair cannot be done with myisamchk." | Apr 12 02:39 |
| schestowitz | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2428738/how-do-you-fix-a-mysql-incorrect-key-file-error-when-you-cant-repair-the-tabl | Apr 12 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | How do you fix a MySQL "Incorrect key file" error when you can't repair the table? - Stack Overflow | Apr 12 02:39 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-transistor-world-digital-energy.html | Apr 12 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techxplore.com | New transistor could cut 5% from world's digital energy budget | Apr 12 02:42 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-jnkQcj0sA | Apr 12 02:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J-jnkQcj0sA | Apr 12 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Allstate Insurance "Lawyer" - Invidious | Apr 12 02:53 | |
| kingoffrance | lol well hegelianism sells | Apr 12 02:55 |
| kingoffrance | great example of "the system" co-opts any real resistance | Apr 12 02:55 |
| kingoffrance | "anarchy for sale" -- dead kennedys | Apr 12 02:56 |
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| Π£Π Π | the site is ofline | Apr 12 03:04 |
| chunky | dick so small cant even hit the IUD + never grilled corn + u still play pokemon go + u call ppl beta and alpha males + you leave the tags on your hats + you blame black folk for ruining your life | Apr 12 03:05 |
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| Π£Π Π | stfu pig | Apr 12 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | can we be on topic? | Apr 12 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so anyway, anyone here good at DBs? | Apr 12 03:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Apr 12 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried manual repairs too | Apr 12 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to be clear: | Apr 12 03:06 |
| Π£Π Π | Firefox canβt establish a connection to the server at www.tuxmachines.org. | Apr 12 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | this happened before | Apr 12 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the simplest fix is, revert back to OK backup | Apr 12 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Π£Π Π you try https probab | Apr 12 03:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmXXLtscfDbwVhn13YG3uYit85zkFCS4WjNa9MM64s3Ee4 | Apr 12 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Apr 12 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | one route out of this is to upgrade a bunch of other stuff too, and add TLS | Apr 12 03:07 |
| MinceR | chunky: you're becoming repetitive | Apr 12 03:07 |
| chunky | sowwy :( | Apr 12 03:07 |
| chunky | owl do better | Apr 12 03:07 |
| Π£Π Π | Β your new Drupal website! | Apr 12 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixing the site isn't impossible, I could fix it in a couple of minutes | Apr 12 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I contacted Ariadne as it might be a good chance to just move it to another OS, too | Apr 12 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | ahead of Easter Weekend | Apr 12 03:08 |
| Π£Π Π | what os? | Apr 12 03:09 |
| AdmFubar | from the don't tase me bro department https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/04/cops-take-dim-view-of-autonomous-vehicle-driving-with-no-lights-at-night/ | Apr 12 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Driverless car appears to flee the scene after being pulled over by cops | Ars Technica | Apr 12 03:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | centos | Apr 12 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the dying os | Apr 12 03:10 |
| Π£Π Π | you trust redhat suits you right | Apr 12 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | tessier was good at centos | Apr 12 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was his choice | Apr 12 03:11 |
| Π£Π Π | everyone knows the best server is debian | Apr 12 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it used to be on debian until 2013, gentoo in the early days | Apr 12 03:11 |
| Π£Π Π | distrowatch is using debian | Apr 12 03:12 |
| MinceR | deadian used to be a good server, but that was long ago | Apr 12 03:13 |
| MinceR | before they gave up everything debian was about | Apr 12 03:13 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme | Apr 12 03:14 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: darkreading.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme | Apr 12 03:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Former DHS Acting IT Chief Convicted in Software, Database Theft Scheme | Apr 12 03:14 | |
| Π£Π Π | MX linux | Apr 12 03:14 |
| Π£Π Π | mexican linux holle | Apr 12 03:15 |
| Π£Π Π | it doesn't sport systemd | Apr 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm back on Fedora. | Apr 12 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | 36 seems to run well on this computer. | Apr 12 03:20 |
| Π£Π Π | isnt it at 42? | Apr 12 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME? Yes. | Apr 12 03:21 |
| Π£Π Π | ha okay | Apr 12 03:21 |
| Π£Π Π | luxury OS for ya | Apr 12 03:22 |
| chunky | guys i am sorry for my past behavior | Apr 12 03:22 |
| chunky | really hope u can find it in your hearts to forgive me | Apr 12 03:23 |
| chunky | i am a good person | Apr 12 03:23 |
| Π£Π Π | gnome tablet od on the desktop ? | Apr 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99 | Apr 12 03:23 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: mozilla.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99 | Apr 12 03:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | Firefox 99 for developers - Mozilla | MDN | Apr 12 03:23 | |
| Π£Π Π | IM NOT | Apr 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | No notable changed to the web platform in Firefox 99. | Apr 12 03:23 |
| psydruid | Π‘Π²ΠΈΠ½Ρ Π½Π΅ ΡΠ΅Π»ΠΎΠ²ΡΠΊ | Apr 12 03:24 |
| kingoffrance | i dont believe there's such a thing as good people, but you are forgiven chunky lol | Apr 12 03:24 |
| Π£Π Π | gnome is a WM designed for a tablet | Apr 12 03:24 |
| chunky | ty kingoffrance what a big heart u must have to say something like that | Apr 12 03:24 |
| kingoffrance | no, no heart | Apr 12 03:25 |
| chunky | damn, how does your blood get pumped? | Apr 12 03:25 |
| kingoffrance | caffeine | Apr 12 03:25 |
| chunky | that's cool | Apr 12 03:25 |
| chunky | sounds like new technology | Apr 12 03:25 |
| Π£Π Π | get a room | Apr 12 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think (THINK!) I might manage to repair the existing 'broken' DB | Apr 12 03:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | with myisamchk | Apr 12 03:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but even if I did, not too sure I'd trust its integrity after this repair, unlike older backups which predate the incident | Apr 12 03:29 |
| psydruid | how much data are we talking about here? | Apr 12 03:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | 470mb compressed | Apr 12 03:30 |
| psydruid | that isn't a lot, but I'm not that familiar with mysql | Apr 12 03:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is rather old mysql | Apr 12 03:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again the DB was populated since 2004 | Apr 12 03:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a student back then | Apr 12 03:31 |
| psydruid | my experience is mostly with oracle at a former employer, one of the major data integration companies | Apr 12 03:32 |
| psydruid | and postgres more recently | Apr 12 03:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | this repair operation did not help | Apr 12 03:33 |
| Π£Π Π | try it on windows :D | Apr 12 03:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can access everything OK only if I am logged in | Apr 12 03:33 |
| psydruid | the tools don't work? | Apr 12 03:33 |
| kingoffrance | we cant get a room, mincer doesnt believe in rooms, everyone is supposed to delphi technique synthesize | Apr 12 03:35 |
| kingoffrance | and with that i bid you adieu | Apr 12 03:35 |
| *kingoffrance has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 12 03:35 | |
| psydruid | maybe you have to set the permissions correctly | Apr 12 03:38 |
| psydruid | but using myisam isn't really recommended | Apr 12 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, it seems to have been caused by a bad write | Apr 12 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | which messes up a table | Apr 12 03:39 |
| psydruid | I thought everything ws innodb for years | Apr 12 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and makes recovery hard or impossible | Apr 12 03:39 |
| psydruid | do you have a backup that you know is good? | Apr 12 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 12 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it would be nice to upgrade the whole system | Apr 12 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | while we're at it | Apr 12 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've put the site in offline mode to prevent confusion | Apr 12 03:40 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/ | Apr 12 03:40 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: ghacks.net | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/ | Apr 12 03:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Symantec says that hackers distributed a modified version of VLC and exploited it for malware attacks - gHacks Tech News | Apr 12 03:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Windows users downloading exe and msi files? | Apr 12 03:41 |
| psydruid | and what cms are you using? Drupal? | Apr 12 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 12 03:43 |
| *matey (~matey@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 12 03:44 | |
| psydruid | I see that Drupal supports Postgres in addition to MySQL now | Apr 12 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but moving upwards in drupal versions renders lots of stuff obsolete | Apr 12 03:46 |
| matey | i see that drupal is self-hosted, nice | Apr 12 03:47 |
| matey | (its also in the fsd fork) | Apr 12 03:48 |
| matey | SO MUCH OF WHICH is fucking cpan (this isnt cpans fault-- if indeed it is anyones) | Apr 12 03:48 |
| matey | i made another little automated tool to help me manage all of that | Apr 12 03:49 |
| matey | its not really "automated", it just does most of the work for me | Apr 12 03:49 |
| matey | mostly automated | Apr 12 03:49 |
| psydruid | which version of Drupal are you currently on? | Apr 12 03:50 |
| matey | i spent about 30 minutes making it, it already saved me 2 or 3 hours, and that was less than 2 or 3 hours ago | Apr 12 03:50 |
| matey | oh im not using drupal, sorry | Apr 12 03:51 |
| psydruid | neither am I | Apr 12 03:51 |
| matey | what i meant was, if you fork the fsd | Apr 12 03:51 |
| psydruid | I've never even used it | Apr 12 03:51 |
| matey | and you remove projects that dont meet its rather strict criteria | Apr 12 03:51 |
| matey | drupal is still there | Apr 12 03:51 |
| matey | both hypothetically and actually | Apr 12 03:51 |
| psydruid | I'm just trying to understand what the situation is | Apr 12 03:51 |
| matey | what situation exactly? | Apr 12 03:52 |
| matey | with drupal adding support? | Apr 12 03:52 |
| matey | for postgres? | Apr 12 03:52 |
| psydruid | mysql data dump from a mysql myisam database that seems corrupt and can't be moved to something like postgres, because the drupal cms is an older version | Apr 12 03:53 |
| Π£Π Π | chunky hacked your site | Apr 12 03:53 |
| psydruid | newer versions of drupal have removed support for certain things, so moving to them is not an option | Apr 12 03:54 |
| psydruid | that's my understanding at present | Apr 12 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am rebuilding the index | Apr 12 03:54 |
| chunky | Π£Π Π: woah there, that's not true and a serious accusation!! | Apr 12 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems promising | Apr 12 03:54 |
| matey | oh that sucks | Apr 12 03:54 |
| matey | do you suspect foul play? | Apr 12 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said before, even if I FIX the existing thing, I would not trust its integrity going foward | Apr 12 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not without tons of testing | Apr 12 03:55 |
| matey | /me is asking psydroid because he isnt sure what roy is talking about is even related yet | Apr 12 03:55 |
| matey | though it could be the same thing | Apr 12 03:55 |
| *Π£Π Π Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 3 | Apr 12 03:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 17,000,000 data records in search index | Apr 12 03:56 |
| psydruid | no foul play, just not great technology | Apr 12 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: just throwing out there this remark, ymmv | Apr 12 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | techdirt moved to wordpress last month | Apr 12 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | they were anxious to migrate | Apr 12 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure what they used before | Apr 12 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | techdirt goes back to the 1990s | Apr 12 03:57 |
| matey | "just not great technology" when technology gets worse, i dont rule out foul play until i come up with a better explanation :) | Apr 12 03:57 |
| matey | only because ive learned its fucking common | Apr 12 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | running sites for this long is very hard, without "overhaul", as technology changes far too fast | Apr 12 03:57 |
| matey | techdirt moved to wordpress last month <- masochism? | Apr 12 03:58 |
| matey | technology changes far too fast <- technology tends to change more slowly if you keep things simple | Apr 12 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | php may not work after a version bump, OSes deprecate support for "old" things, some projects get abandoned, so no security fixes | Apr 12 03:58 |
| matey | /me hasnt considered php stable since it turned into a langauge he cant figure out how to use | Apr 12 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | meh | Apr 12 03:59 |
| matey | /me used to code in php (though nothing extensive) | Apr 12 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | even after this long repair process it still does not work :/ | Apr 12 03:59 |
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| matey | php was so simple you could mock it for its simplicity, and people did | Apr 12 04:00 |
| matey | then they fixed it. | Apr 12 04:00 |
| matey | /me wouldnt know how to follow Π£Π Π | Apr 12 04:00 |
| matey | i used to be able to make a really simple guestbook in php in minutes | Apr 12 04:01 |
| matey | i can still do it in python | Apr 12 04:01 |
| chunky | that guy sure didn't seem to like me! | Apr 12 04:01 |
| matey | i think half the people here consider you a troll | Apr 12 04:02 |
| psydruid | Π£Π Π is Π£rainian | Apr 12 04:02 |
| matey | though thats just my impression | Apr 12 04:02 |
| chunky | i'll have to do some public image repairing around here | Apr 12 04:02 |
| chunky | i've gone TOO FAR this time | Apr 12 04:02 |
| matey | rofl | Apr 12 04:02 |
| psydruid | I consider him a dead troll | Apr 12 04:02 |
| chunky | that sounds menacing | Apr 12 04:02 |
| psydruid | I just need to write some patches to add ignore functionality in XMPP clients | Apr 12 04:03 |
| psydruid | not menacing, just dead | Apr 12 04:03 |
| chunky | please do not hurt me :( | Apr 12 04:04 |
| chunky | i swear i'm alright | Apr 12 04:04 |
| matey | pipelines make things too fucking easy | Apr 12 04:04 |
| chunky | i just got caught up the meme | Apr 12 04:04 |
| psydruid | it's too late for that now | Apr 12 04:04 |
| psydruid | try in your next life | Apr 12 04:04 |
| matey | :) | Apr 12 04:04 |
| matey | whats something you like and something you dislike | Apr 12 04:04 |
| matey | i will judge you for the next 100 years based on the answer (or not) | Apr 12 04:05 |
| chunky | i like freebsd, i hate windows | Apr 12 04:05 |
| matey | its a start | Apr 12 04:05 |
| chunky | wait can i change my answer | Apr 12 04:05 |
| chunky | let me edit | Apr 12 04:05 |
| chunky | s/windows/microsoft | Apr 12 04:05 |
| matey | even better would be s/windows/windows and microsoft/ | Apr 12 04:06 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, April 11, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 12 04:06 |
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| chunky | microsoft covers a great many thing | Apr 12 04:06 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 12 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 12 04:06 | |
| chunky | getting angry rn thinking about how microsoft owns github | Apr 12 04:06 |
| matey | it covers too much (though thats not your fault) | Apr 12 04:06 |
| chunky | brb gotta pace around the room for 3-8 minutes | Apr 12 04:06 |
| matey | /me knows hes taking the piss | Apr 12 04:06 |
| chunky | ;D | Apr 12 04:06 |
| chunky | yeah i don't feel too much anger but i sincerely dislike microsoft's history of abuse | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | and i don't see how them controlling the open source dev ecosystem is good for anyone | Apr 12 04:07 |
| matey | theyre a bit crap | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | it's gonna flop on everyone | Apr 12 04:07 |
| matey | open source was always a scam imo | Apr 12 04:07 |
| matey | though the prehistory and VERY early history im still unsure on | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | the wrong people were definitely in charge of the freedom movement | Apr 12 04:07 |
| matey | not because im unfamiliar, some of it remains a mystery | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | stallman has basically sabotaged it w/o trying | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | just by being himself | Apr 12 04:07 |
| chunky | i think the guy is a genius but he should have delegated the public figure stuff | Apr 12 04:08 |
| matey | i mean youve got it backwards but | Apr 12 04:08 |
| psydruid | microsoft only looks big because people allow it to look big | Apr 12 04:08 |
| matey | i dont think its his public figure that has done the real damage tbh | Apr 12 04:08 |
| matey | though its a common scapegoat | Apr 12 04:08 |
| psydruid | in reality they are nothing and their solutions don't even work | Apr 12 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the size is not the issue | Apr 12 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the behaviour | Apr 12 04:08 |
| psydruid | or not for long | Apr 12 04:08 |
| chunky | github works fine because microsoft didn't build it | Apr 12 04:08 |
| chunky | but they are screwing it up fairly quickly | Apr 12 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are | Apr 12 04:09 |
| matey | the size is not the issue <- it's the behaviour <- if you mean github, the two are definitely related | Apr 12 04:09 |
| psydruid | microsoft could be ousted from every organization within a few years at most, but there are microsoft moles who keep it in place for selfish gains | Apr 12 04:09 |
| matey | monopoly behaves like a monopoly | Apr 12 04:09 |
| matey | monopoly becomes monopoly by behaving like one | Apr 12 04:09 |
| matey | the size is a product of the monopoly | Apr 12 04:10 |
| chunky | microsoft owning github and the most popular text editor on the market is a bad thing, they've fooled a lot of new and old devs alike by virtue signalling about how much they love open source | Apr 12 04:10 |
| matey | and the most popular text editor on the market <- which? | Apr 12 04:10 |
| chunky | "microsoft is good now!!!" jslover34 | Apr 12 04:10 |
| psydruid | I consider the devs the fools and make no excuses for them | Apr 12 04:11 |
| matey | ^ | Apr 12 04:11 |
| matey | call me sentimental, i want projects run by people who give a shit about my freedom | Apr 12 04:11 |
| chunky | that's pretty fair psydruid but ultimately everyone suffers for it | Apr 12 04:11 |
| matey | people who hold the door open for microsoft are no better for free software than people who held the door open for the early january coup are for america | Apr 12 04:11 |
| psydruid | if you are a good dev you can create anything from scratch given enough resources | Apr 12 04:11 |
| chunky | and i think a lot of devs could be convinced to not prop up microsoft if they even had a clue about it | Apr 12 04:12 |
| chunky | but most people just want to get stuff done and use the popular/available tools for the job | Apr 12 04:12 |
| matey | which text editor is the most popular on the market? | Apr 12 04:12 |
| chunky | vscode | Apr 12 04:12 |
| matey | hehehe | Apr 12 04:12 |
| chunky | and it's barely even open source | Apr 12 04:12 |
| chunky | all the good features are proprietary plugins by microsoft | Apr 12 04:12 |
| chunky | they've taken everyone for absolute fools! | Apr 12 04:13 |
| matey | its what they do best | Apr 12 04:13 |
| psydruid | I've avoided anything from microsoft for decades | Apr 12 04:14 |
| psydruid | you never use it and don't become dependent on it | Apr 12 04:14 |
| chunky | yeah i don't use any of their products | Apr 12 04:15 |
| psydruid | but I understand the market has changed and embraced all of these "freebies" | Apr 12 04:15 |
| psydruid | especially in "hip" fields like web development | Apr 12 04:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: I will try another pair of recovery modes, but failing that we can always recover fully, manually, though i assume Ariadne is afk (it would be better to also move to a newer OS while at it; should not be hard technically | Apr 12 04:17 |
| chunky | i do a bit of webdev and there's absolutely no reason to use m$ products | Apr 12 04:17 |
| chunky | the one good thing microsoft did was create LSP | Apr 12 04:18 |
| matey | /me can access techrights.org, the wiki and an article, wonders whats down | Apr 12 04:20 |
| chunky | maybe if it were hosted on azure it would be working fine | Apr 12 04:20 |
| matey | granted its an old article and i didnt check any links on the front page | Apr 12 04:20 |
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| psydruid | schestowitz-TR, I think it would be better to get Ariadne involved when available, because it's about several things I am not familiar with | Apr 12 04:21 |
| matey | maybe if it were hosted on azure <- maybe if it were written on a macbook :) | Apr 12 04:21 |
| chunky | hahahaha | Apr 12 04:21 |
| matey | /me wonders what the linux-killing foundation uses for a server | Apr 12 04:21 |
| psydruid | never used Azure or Oracle Cloud, only IBM Cloud with free credits | Apr 12 04:21 |
| matey | i wonder if anyone has ever used a pickup truck chassis in a "server room" | Apr 12 04:22 |
| psydruid | they all want that credit card info that I don't have | Apr 12 04:22 |
| psydruid | at least not anymore | Apr 12 04:22 |
| matey | either for bitcoin mining, or even an actual server (this would probably be in texas or something) | Apr 12 04:22 |
| matey | its hard to imagine no one else has thought of it at least | Apr 12 04:23 |
| chunky | i have to use google cloud stuff for work | Apr 12 04:23 |
| matey | "why a pickup truck chassis?" | Apr 12 04:23 |
| matey | "i mean, yknow, it was just sittin there" | Apr 12 04:23 |
| matey | "and theyre real sturdy, so i just put the servers up on that on cinder blocks, an there ya go" | Apr 12 04:23 |
| matey | "what kind of rack is that?" | Apr 12 04:24 |
| matey | "its an old chevy" | Apr 12 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: yes, she's very helpful and better than me at those things | Apr 12 04:26 |
| matey | psydruid: do you know whats actually down? its a mystery to me | Apr 12 04:29 |
| psydruid | matey, one of the sites has a corrupt database, so it's offline now | Apr 12 04:30 |
| matey | ust be tuxmachines, techrights seems fine | Apr 12 04:30 |
| matey | ah yes, tuxmachines is doing 503 | Apr 12 04:31 |
| chunky | men of culture idb (in dis bitch) | Apr 12 04:33 |
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| matey | kingoffrance β no, as your punishment you must write 200 pages single spaced defining "state" and "rights" and "person" and "human" and "property" and "family" and how abolishing the "state" will magically lead to a coherent system instead of just meaningless gibberish and more confusion of tongues <- i knew it would come to this | Apr 12 04:44 |
| matey | thats a terrible setup, it would be more coherent in less than 200 pages and its only going to be padded with more of the same problem | Apr 12 04:45 |
| matey | "hai is shark in german" <- shark exists. man boat mein. boat paina mein. shark paina mein. humira shark. | Apr 12 04:48 |
| matey | s/paina/pani | Apr 12 04:49 |
| matey | i knew that was wrong | Apr 12 04:49 |
| matey | main ishaan hoon | Apr 12 04:49 |
| psydruid | haai is Dutch for German Hai | Apr 12 04:53 |
| psydruid | main sochta hun ki hindi mein boat ko "kishti" bolte hain | Apr 12 04:54 |
| matey | hmm | Apr 12 04:54 |
| matey | distrowatch is using debian <- funny, i was sure they said they used bsd (freebsd?) and i used to think "good luck with that" | Apr 12 04:55 |
| matey | /me doubts they use debian, but maybe its possible | Apr 12 04:55 |
| chunky | what's wrong w/ freebsd? | Apr 12 04:58 |
| chunky | i use it | Apr 12 04:58 |
| psydruid | aur shark ko "grah", lekin ye shabd mujhe malum nahin tha | Apr 12 04:58 |
| matey | what's wrong w/ freebsd? <- this was years before i switched to bsd, and figured they were makings things difficult for themselves | Apr 12 04:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββ βββ βββββ ββββββββββ ββββββ ββββββββ avg(k/sec) 36.80 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββ βββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 98.25β swarm size (avg): 332.45 β² | Apr 12 04:59 |
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| psydruid | FreeBSD used to not fix bugs for years according to what some people told me, but I haven't had problems with 13.0 running on an older laptop | Apr 12 05:00 |
| matey | /me gets "hangar" and "sark" for m / f hindi | Apr 12 05:00 |
| psydruid | that is, until the hard drive broke | Apr 12 05:01 |
| matey | my limited experience with freebsd was mostly positive | Apr 12 05:01 |
| matey | t was my first bsd really | Apr 12 05:01 |
| psydruid | it was for me too | Apr 12 05:01 |
| psydruid | but it also depends on your hardware | Apr 12 05:02 |
| matey | i would use it before midnightbsd :) | Apr 12 05:02 |
| matey | it also depends on your hardwar <- hence "mostly" as it didnt install on the laptop | Apr 12 05:02 |
| matey | surprisingly, openbsd did | Apr 12 05:02 |
| psydruid | and after midnightbsd? | Apr 12 05:02 |
| matey | after midnightbsd of course i would run dd | Apr 12 05:02 |
| psydruid | OpenBSD installs on almost anything I've thrown at it | Apr 12 05:03 |
| matey | i know someone who had trouble getting it onto an sbc | Apr 12 05:03 |
| matey | lack of documentation | Apr 12 05:03 |
| psydruid | I thought it would be something like earlymorningbsd or ghostbsd :) | Apr 12 05:03 |
| matey | midnightbsd is both github based and a stallman backstabber | Apr 12 05:04 |
| psydruid | yes, ARM support is a weakness | Apr 12 05:04 |
| matey | i sometimes confuse it with mirbsd but im 85% certain mir is the good one | Apr 12 05:04 |
| psydruid | I talked to some OpenBSD people this weekend | Apr 12 05:04 |
| matey | nice, howd that go | Apr 12 05:04 |
| psydruid | I think NetBSD is more suitable for ARM SBCs | Apr 12 05:05 |
| psydruid | well, it was more of a general discussion | Apr 12 05:05 |
| matey | I think NetBSD is more suitable for ARM SBCs <- thats what they went for instead | Apr 12 05:06 |
| matey | on the sbc | Apr 12 05:06 |
| matey | where kajol gets her cute from https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aR3wrIa1Iis | Apr 12 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Raat Akeli Hai, Bhuj Gaye Diye(HQ) JEWEL THIEF (1967) - Invidious | Apr 12 05:07 | |
| psydruid | I don't know so much about that era of film and music | Apr 12 05:10 |
| matey | but im sure youve seen kajol in something | Apr 12 05:10 |
| matey | probably with shah rukh khan | Apr 12 05:11 |
| psydruid | yes, I know her | Apr 12 05:11 |
| matey | thats her mother | Apr 12 05:11 |
| matey | from "jewel thief" | Apr 12 05:11 |
| matey | whats funnier (imo) is that kajol played someone named anjeli opposite a girl named angeli and in jewel thief her mother is also named angeli | Apr 12 05:13 |
| psydruid | sometimes I'm wondering if people in our family would have ended up in film and music if we had stayed in india | Apr 12 05:13 |
| matey | or anjuli | Apr 12 05:13 |
| matey | i dont know, it seems like the most common jobs are doctor, pharmacy, entertainment and it | Apr 12 05:14 |
| psydruid | my grandparents were touring musicians long before I was born | Apr 12 05:14 |
| matey | even if those are also stereotypes | Apr 12 05:14 |
| psydruid | and also involved in theatre | Apr 12 05:14 |
| matey | i never wanted to play the flute, but the tiny brass indian ones sound so fucking beautiful | Apr 12 05:15 |
| matey | i think a lot of it is probably the style | Apr 12 05:15 |
| psydruid | sometimes I find some of their music such as folk songs on youtube | Apr 12 05:15 |
| matey | thats awesome | Apr 12 05:16 |
| psydruid | recently even someone from india told me they know some of my relatives from suriname | Apr 12 05:16 |
| matey | the internet definitely makes the world smaller | Apr 12 05:17 |
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| psydruid | my generation is really the first in my family that had the opportunity to go to university, so becoming a doctor or an engineer wasn't really an option | Apr 12 05:21 |
| matey | of course | Apr 12 05:21 |
| matey | its like that for so many | Apr 12 05:21 |
| matey | by the way if you see a good movie (or any movie) on t-series let me know-- i dont do netflix | Apr 12 05:23 |
| matey | ive seen a bunch of them | Apr 12 05:23 |
| matey | same for any other channel, if you watch movies at all i mean | Apr 12 05:23 |
| psydruid | I do, but I don't watch that many | Apr 12 05:23 |
| matey | i dont watch that many, though i try to | Apr 12 05:24 |
| matey | subtitles arent important. sometimes i find them distracting but theyre not a dealbreaker | Apr 12 05:24 |
| matey | theyre probably in 1/3 of what i watch | Apr 12 05:24 |
| psydruid | with the number of languages I speak hindi movies are a small part of what I watch, although I do enjoy them at times | Apr 12 05:25 |
| matey | of course | Apr 12 05:25 |
| matey | and i never bother with english movies at all, not in years | Apr 12 05:26 |
| psydruid | there are many older films also from shemaroo and yash raj | Apr 12 05:26 |
| matey | i passionately hate hollywood | Apr 12 05:26 |
| matey | i love yashraj | Apr 12 05:26 |
| psydruid | I saw quite a mix of movies at film festivals | Apr 12 05:27 |
| psydruid | I watch very little in the way of hollywood | Apr 12 05:27 |
| matey | ive apart from the fact that the past 10-20 years are recycled everything | Apr 12 05:27 |
| psydruid | it's all so hollow and inane | Apr 12 05:27 |
| matey | i think to some degree thats true of bollywood too | Apr 12 05:27 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 12 05:28 |
| matey | hollywood is like going to the mafia for entertainment | Apr 12 05:28 |
| matey | as long as you have cash and never do anything they dont like, youre fine | Apr 12 05:28 |
| psydruid | I've probably watched just as many Iranian movies over the years | Apr 12 05:28 |
| matey | but you hear stories about what happens to other people, and youre like wtf | Apr 12 05:28 |
| psydruid | which are not on netflix | Apr 12 05:28 |
| matey | ive watched netflix just enough to be familiar with it | Apr 12 05:29 |
| matey | but of course i dont own anything capable of playing it and ive never paid them for anything | Apr 12 05:29 |
| matey | but ive lived with people who had it before | Apr 12 05:29 |
| psydruid | I've never paid for it either | Apr 12 05:29 |
| matey | i havent seen it in years, but ive binge watched stuff on it | Apr 12 05:30 |
| matey | when people i know have technology id never want to own | Apr 12 05:30 |
| matey | ill often play with it a couple times to get an idea | Apr 12 05:30 |
| matey | ive used an xbox with the face recognition thing. i put something over my head too. | Apr 12 05:31 |
| matey | i looked like the robot guy from the lmfao video | Apr 12 05:31 |
| psydruid | it's just that you look for something on Netflix and you can't find anything | Apr 12 05:32 |
| matey | granted ive only used an xbox about 3 times | Apr 12 05:32 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 12 05:32 |
| matey | no, one of the experiences i had with netflix was that anything that was really good, they would pull after a few months! | Apr 12 05:32 |
| matey | then they added commercials (that was after i stopped watching) | Apr 12 05:32 |
| matey | and you pay them, to watch commercials | Apr 12 05:32 |
| matey | wtf? | Apr 12 05:32 |
| psydruid | movies from "unapproved country" in "unapproved language" | Apr 12 05:33 |
| psydruid | zero results | Apr 12 05:33 |
| psydruid | oh wow | Apr 12 05:33 |
| matey | yeah thats when i deleted my youtube account | Apr 12 05:33 |
| matey | when they started doing country restrictions i was like "you broke the internet, bye" | Apr 12 05:33 |
| matey | didnt go back for years, then they wanted a phone number, so of course i didnt bother | Apr 12 05:34 |
| psydruid | you can still get phone numbers without registration here | Apr 12 05:34 |
| matey | sure | Apr 12 05:34 |
| psydruid | but it's almost impossible anywhere else | Apr 12 05:34 |
| matey | but its none of googles fucking business | Apr 12 05:34 |
| activelow | don't ask what the remaining www experience is with netsurf-gtk gui browser and no other remaining | Apr 12 05:34 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 12 05:34 |
| matey | which is only true by figure of speech, because of course googles business is literally being a nosy fuck | Apr 12 05:35 |
| matey | i think weve all seen what the web is like with netsurf-gtk | Apr 12 05:35 |
| activelow | yet i must admit, the remaining content is rather pleasent, no advertisements, no tracking, no cookies, no js, none of this | Apr 12 05:36 |
| psydruid | I had my gmail account "recovered" a few days ago and they were asking for a current phone number, which I hadn't set | Apr 12 05:36 |
| matey | google is terrible, i wouldnt host shit there | Apr 12 05:36 |
| psydruid | if it doesn't work in netsurf, I consider it broken | Apr 12 05:37 |
| matey | theres still some js worth loading (not a lot) and i have yet to see netsurf load any of it | Apr 12 05:37 |
| psydruid | I have different e-mail addresses for different purposes | Apr 12 05:37 |
| activelow | netsurf does implement the relevant w3c standards, these are _not_ obsolete, it is the content which doesn't recognize those standards anymore | Apr 12 05:37 |
| matey | theres a js feature, aka crash instantly feature | Apr 12 05:37 |
| matey | is netsurf to blame? probably. is pledge to blame? possibly | Apr 12 05:38 |
| activelow | yes, too, with the w3c standards netsurf does implement, modern features including multimedia were possible too, yet GAFAM chose to implement theirs violating those w3c standards | Apr 12 05:38 |
| matey | pledge is awesome but they wanted to get it working on ff simply because its basically a miracle | Apr 12 05:38 |
| matey | and they did it | Apr 12 05:38 |
| matey | sometimes you cant go to about:preferences but maybe thats reveal (which is less hardcoded anyway afaik) | Apr 12 05:39 |
| matey | this is research of course-- its less of a product | Apr 12 05:39 |
| matey | which is mostly a good thing, most of the time | Apr 12 05:39 |
| matey | linus says fapping monkeys, but corporations fap all the time as well | Apr 12 05:40 |
| matey | only difference is that openbsd cleans up after and corporations do it in your face | Apr 12 05:40 |
| matey | like systemd isnt the biggest fap of all time | Apr 12 05:40 |
| matey | jesus lennart, where i can go to get out of the line of fire? | Apr 12 05:41 |
| matey | gentoo, here is your umbrella | Apr 12 05:41 |
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| matey | raat akeli hai (american version... not really) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C5TaeDhPUQQ | Apr 12 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Lonely Is The Night - Invidious | Apr 12 05:49 | |
| psydruid | https://lateblt.livejournal.com/413260.html | Apr 12 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lateblt.livejournal.com | My take on "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy": lateblt β LiveJournal | Apr 12 05:51 | |
| matey | abolishing private property would be better than letting the corporations abolish personal property | Apr 12 05:55 |
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| matey | and if everything is smart and controlled with drm, theres is no personal property | Apr 12 05:55 |
| matey | your car, your computer, your stereo, your air conditioner, your appliances, everything is leased from the company that makes it | Apr 12 05:56 |
| matey | theyre trying to absolish personal property, and keep private property | Apr 12 05:56 |
| matey | when people realise that, they will be less upset about abolishing private property | Apr 12 05:57 |
| matey | realising that the ultimately outcome of private property is that corporations own everything, and people own nothing at all | Apr 12 05:57 |
| matey | thats the direction weve been headed in since steve ballmer ran microsoft | Apr 12 05:58 |
| matey | steve ballmer didnt manage to get microsoft into the cloud | Apr 12 05:58 |
| matey | but he set the wheels in motion. now hes one of the 10 richest people on earth. not exactly the image of a failure, even if he is insane | Apr 12 05:58 |
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| matey | where weve gotten to, at the hands of capitalism is basically this | Apr 12 05:59 |
| matey | you can have 99% of the world own everything, OR | Apr 12 05:59 |
| matey | you can have 1% of 1% of the world own everything | Apr 12 05:59 |
| matey | pick one. there should be a third option-- theyve already gotten rid of it. | Apr 12 05:59 |
| matey | so pick one. | Apr 12 05:59 |
| matey | when enough people realise those are the choices, theyre going to choose to abolish private property, so that personal property isnt abolished | Apr 12 06:00 |
| psydruid | I don't think people are aware of the extent to which they're being taken for a ride | Apr 12 06:00 |
| matey | of course not | Apr 12 06:00 |
| matey | the ride wouldnt last if people saw where it was going | Apr 12 06:00 |
| matey | software is a microcosm of this | Apr 12 06:01 |
| psydruid | or if they are aware if of they don't know what to do about it | Apr 12 06:01 |
| matey | people like mincer assume its hopeless | Apr 12 06:01 |
| psydruid | of it* | Apr 12 06:01 |
| matey | based o failures that are put in a context that makes the good ideas seem the same as the bad ideas | Apr 12 06:01 |
| matey | theyre completely separate ideas | Apr 12 06:01 |
| psydruid | I'll keep fighting until the very end | Apr 12 06:01 |
| psydruid | at least until my end | Apr 12 06:02 |
| psydruid | but that's me | Apr 12 06:02 |
| matey | unions arent the answer | Apr 12 06:02 |
| matey | but theyre a step in the right direction | Apr 12 06:02 |
| matey | a necessary step | Apr 12 06:02 |
| matey | recent: https://nitter.fdn.fr/MITGradUnion | Apr 12 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | MIT Graduate Student Union (@MITGradUnion) | FDNitter | Apr 12 06:04 | |
| psydruid | if what is happening in Ukraine and happened in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan before is a sign of what is to come, we'll have more of the same elsewhere soon | Apr 12 06:04 |
| matey | war can only get so bullshit until the military itself pushes for change | Apr 12 06:05 |
| matey | and not from the top down | Apr 12 06:05 |
| matey | and not necessarily in a violent coup per se | Apr 12 06:05 |
| matey | of course it would be incredibly naive to think that everythings going to be gandhi and sitins | Apr 12 06:05 |
| matey | but for example, consider the american revolution | Apr 12 06:06 |
| techrights-news | "Moving on from legacy BIOS and Xorg, Raspberry Pi OS finally catches up with security basics, the UK government give us more reasons to be angry, the usual KDE goodness, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-172/ | Apr 12 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux β Episode 172 β Late Night Linux | Apr 12 06:06 | |
| psydruid | I think that was rather a historical anomaly | Apr 12 06:06 |
| matey | it really isnt, it just looks like one | Apr 12 06:06 |
| matey | once you manage to put it in context of other things, it makes sense | Apr 12 06:06 |
| matey | and paints SOME hope for the future | Apr 12 06:06 |
| matey | im a pessimist, however | Apr 12 06:07 |
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| psydruid | I meant the peace we have right now | Apr 12 06:07 |
| matey | im a pessimist constantly on the lookout for reasons to avoid being a nihilist | Apr 12 06:07 |
| matey | and things are bad right now. | Apr 12 06:07 |
| matey | but the thing is, the american revolution wasnt america attacking britain | Apr 12 06:07 |
| matey | they got together and simply said "no more" | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | no fucking more | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | and britain said "ok, then we will attack you" | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | and america fought back | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | this of course, is an incredibly oversimplification | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | but if you want to win a revolution, you dont START the fight | Apr 12 06:08 |
| psydruid | we need more of that attitude now | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | you start living the way you should live, and the fight will come to you | Apr 12 06:08 |
| matey | more people should read about the russian revolution | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | not because it will be the same | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | revolutions arent cookie cutter, theyre incredibly depedendent on context | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | other revolutions dont look the same | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | no two are identical | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | or whoever said history doesnt repeat itself, but it often rhymes | Apr 12 06:09 |
| matey | youll know when revolution is here because everyone will be talking about it | Apr 12 06:10 |
| matey | openly | Apr 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are building a test machine for tuxmachines | Apr 12 06:10 |
| matey | but if you look around, people are talking more and more | Apr 12 06:10 |
| matey | everywhere | Apr 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | devuan probably, might export to gemini also (160,000+ pages) | Apr 12 06:10 |
| matey | one of the most important things for people to understand about revolution isnt even revolution | Apr 12 06:13 |
| matey | but what counterrevolution looks like | Apr 12 06:13 |
| matey | for free software, counterrevolution looks like (is) open source | Apr 12 06:13 |
| matey | but history is full of counterrevolution | Apr 12 06:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not initially | Apr 12 06:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI | Apr 12 06:13 |
| matey | the conditions that led to stalinism and the conditions that led to the osi you see today are similar | Apr 12 06:14 |
| matey | stalin, funnily enough, wasnt originally hitler | Apr 12 06:14 |
| matey | he was originally just kind of a cunt | Apr 12 06:14 |
| matey | like esr he was jealous of people like lenin and trotsky | Apr 12 06:15 |
| matey | ultimately he had all the bolsheviks murdered | Apr 12 06:15 |
| matey | the people who created the revolution, who won it-- he knew they were the greatest threat to his bureaucracy | Apr 12 06:15 |
| matey | and at some point the bureaucracy became more important than the workers | Apr 12 06:16 |
| matey | and once that happens, the workers are the threat | Apr 12 06:16 |
| matey | stalin created a monster out of himself | Apr 12 06:16 |
| psydruid | that's where we seem to be at when it comes to free^Wopen source software | Apr 12 06:17 |
| matey | starved and murdered millions | Apr 12 06:17 |
| matey | well at least esr isnt at the helm of this monstrosity | Apr 12 06:17 |
| matey | but the "modest" beginnings of osi (which within one year were running off the track, if we believe perens in his 1999 letteR) | Apr 12 06:17 |
| matey | had already co-opted free software | Apr 12 06:18 |
| matey | and ive always tried to understand why | Apr 12 06:18 |
| matey | ive spent years trying to come up with some reason other than "esr was jealous" | Apr 12 06:18 |
| matey | ive looked at pretty much every story on techrights too | Apr 12 06:18 |
| matey | minus the epo stuff | Apr 12 06:18 |
| matey | ive even talked to esr | Apr 12 06:19 |
| matey | stalins rise to power started modest-- and with jealous | Apr 12 06:19 |
| matey | jealousy | Apr 12 06:19 |
| matey | and it led to a chain reaction of sacrifices of good for less good | Apr 12 06:20 |
| matey | leading to one of the most terrible governments in the history of civilisation | Apr 12 06:20 |
| matey | by far | Apr 12 06:20 |
| psydruid | esr's claim to fame was more important than letting free software thrive? | Apr 12 06:20 |
| matey | and almost certainly inspiring the only ones that were worse (on a competing scale at least) | Apr 12 06:21 |
| matey | esr's claim to fame was more important than letting free software thrive? <- almost beyond any doubt | Apr 12 06:21 |
| matey | id LOVE a better theory | Apr 12 06:21 |
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| matey | because if the truth comes down to something that petty, no one believes it | Apr 12 06:21 |
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| matey | now this isnt openbsd, this is ORIGINAL bsd history | Apr 12 06:21 |
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| psydruid | wasn't he put there as a puppet for the closed source software industry? | Apr 12 06:22 |
| matey | kirk mckusick of bsd and freebsd | Apr 12 06:22 |
| SomeH4x0r | hi | Apr 12 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | 0. | Apr 12 06:22 |
| matey | says of linus | Apr 12 06:22 |
| matey | linus said that if bsd had been available (at&t lawsuit etc) | Apr 12 06:23 |
| matey | he wouldnt have written linux | Apr 12 06:23 |
| matey | but then by the time bsd was freely available, linux was a thing | Apr 12 06:23 |
| psydruid | ΠΏΡΠΈΠ²ΡΡ | Apr 12 06:23 |
| matey | and i think mckusick was sort of joking that at that point he could have simply ported / adapted a better (bsd) kernel instead | Apr 12 06:23 |
| matey | but by then it was running on its own steam | Apr 12 06:23 |
| matey | so today we have this... i mean you can see what linux is not | Apr 12 06:24 |
| matey | is now ^ | Apr 12 06:24 |
| matey | its a sort of corporate gangbang now | Apr 12 06:24 |
| psydruid | a nice throwaway kernel | Apr 12 06:24 |
| matey | fsvo nice | Apr 12 06:24 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 12 06:24 |
| matey | but linux and open source (hand in hand) were absolutely a counterrevolution | Apr 12 06:25 |
| psydruid | I think linux may get abandoned before any of the less corporate kernels | Apr 12 06:25 |
| matey | and i think both open source and the kernel are the way they are because of ego stuff | Apr 12 06:25 |
| matey | and i mean ego stuff is common | Apr 12 06:25 |
| psydruid | even illumos may outlive it at some point | Apr 12 06:25 |
| matey | but the level of... fuckery | Apr 12 06:25 |
| matey | i cant imagine illumos ever being relevant, but you know a lot more about this shit than i do | Apr 12 06:26 |
| matey | i originally turned my nose up at mp3 because id always wanted flac | Apr 12 06:27 |
| matey | and except for a couple experiments, ive simply never used flac | Apr 12 06:27 |
| psydruid | it still does quite a few things better than gnu/linux does, but its footprint is too large | Apr 12 06:27 |
| matey | but when mp3 came out i was like "bah, why" | Apr 12 06:27 |
| psydruid | so while gnu/linux ballooned, so did Illumos | Apr 12 06:27 |
| matey | flac is the ccompressed music i imagined before it existed | Apr 12 06:27 |
| matey | not mp3 | Apr 12 06:27 |
| matey | its footprint is too larg <- linux is already a beat | Apr 12 06:28 |
| matey | beast | Apr 12 06:28 |
| matey | i mean we should be able to port software to tiny things | Apr 12 06:28 |
| matey | maybe not internet of trash tiny | Apr 12 06:28 |
| psydruid | I only created mp3s on a per case basis | Apr 12 06:28 |
| matey | but you know, we should be able to use the same os on a router and a mainframe really | Apr 12 06:28 |
| psydruid | now there isn't a point anymore | Apr 12 06:29 |
| matey | whether its the best option is another matter | Apr 12 06:29 |
| psydruid | linux is also becoming too large, which us natural | Apr 12 06:29 |
| matey | i dont think natural is the right word | Apr 12 06:29 |
| matey | maybe you mean typical | Apr 12 06:29 |
| psydruid | but therefore other things will take its place | Apr 12 06:30 |
| matey | some projects stay small without being abandoned | Apr 12 06:30 |
| psydruid | well, typical is probably the right word | Apr 12 06:30 |
| psydruid | but it happens even to BSD kernels | Apr 12 06:30 |
| matey | sure, you can bastardise bsd like anything else | Apr 12 06:30 |
| matey | how the ecosystem works around that is what matters | Apr 12 06:31 |
| psydruid | OpenBSD kernels have grown in size too over the years | Apr 12 06:31 |
| matey | i know stallman hates that word. if he cant offer a replacement and the concept is useful then its too fucking bad | Apr 12 06:31 |
| matey | OpenBSD kernels have grown in size too over the years <- of course | Apr 12 06:32 |
| matey | but its not a dumping ground the way that linux is | Apr 12 06:32 |
| matey | and if it was, someone would (hopefully) fork it into a non-dumping ground | Apr 12 06:32 |
| matey | the thing i worry about most is whether its forkable | Apr 12 06:33 |
| psydruid | I think the world needed at least one dumping ground | Apr 12 06:33 |
| matey | if its forkable you can salvage it, if its forkable you have freedom 3 | Apr 12 06:33 |
| matey | if its pretend-forkable like a lot of gnu, theres no freedom 3, its imaginary | Apr 12 06:33 |
| psydruid | that doesn't mean we should all use that dumping ground | Apr 12 06:33 |
| matey | I think the world needed at least one dumping ground <- windows isnt good enough? | Apr 12 06:33 |
| psydruid | unfortunately not | Apr 12 06:34 |
| matey | the harder it is to fork, the more doomed it is | Apr 12 06:34 |
| psydruid | it doesn't even meet Linux's already low standards | Apr 12 06:34 |
| matey | this is basic freedom 3, but from an angle the fsf gets wrong | Apr 12 06:35 |
| matey | so they fail to protect freedom 3, even while demanding it in theory | Apr 12 06:35 |
| matey | they have a piece of paper that says you have freedom 3 on paper | Apr 12 06:36 |
| matey | but you cant find freedom 3 in the wild | Apr 12 06:36 |
| matey | you just have to trust god | Apr 12 06:36 |
| matey | stallmans an atheist, he should know better | Apr 12 06:36 |
| matey | freedom 0, freedom 1, freedom 2 and faith 3 | Apr 12 06:37 |
| psydruid | it looks like going to trial in a sham court | Apr 12 06:37 |
| matey | one guy in here says he knows some people who forked the linux kernel so maybe im wrong | Apr 12 06:38 |
| psydruid | as long as you can parrot the freedoms you are free to live as a parrot | Apr 12 06:38 |
| matey | but i dont think the world is going to see a linux fork | Apr 12 06:38 |
| psydruid | I hope the world will see many linux forks | Apr 12 06:38 |
| psydruid | but I don't think it's going to happen | Apr 12 06:38 |
| matey | the thing is, if you have something thats underrated and easy to fork | Apr 12 06:39 |
| matey | and you have something thats overrated and really difficult to fork | Apr 12 06:39 |
| matey | its not hard to guess whats going to happen in terms of forks later on | Apr 12 06:39 |
| activelow | OpenBSD switched to llvm/clang | Apr 12 06:39 |
| psydruid | other than the "forks" that already exist on current kernel developers' drives | Apr 12 06:39 |
| matey | i think everyone is going to switch to llvm/clang. i am not saying this as a fan. | Apr 12 06:39 |
| matey | i taught someone how to use gcc recently | Apr 12 06:40 |
| matey | theyve used it since then | Apr 12 06:40 |
| activelow | a kernel which can be compiled with a c++ compiler only (llvm is a c++ compiler, written in c++), no thanks | Apr 12 06:40 |
| activelow | and the BSD pushed aggresively towards llvm, linux too | Apr 12 06:40 |
| matey | i wonder when c became impossibly bloated under our noses really | Apr 12 06:41 |
| matey | another mystery | Apr 12 06:41 |
| psydruid | I think it's going to happen too | Apr 12 06:41 |
| psydruid | but for reasons of hackability | Apr 12 06:41 |
| matey | mincer will like my associates quote "bloat is sort of like the state" | Apr 12 06:41 |
| activelow | C itself, although troublesome, isn't impossibly; it is the compilers, with a demaracation line drawn at C11 features | Apr 12 06:42 |
| activelow | *isn't impossibly bloated | Apr 12 06:43 |
| matey | actually it was "bloat is a lot like the state, really." | Apr 12 06:43 |
| matey | "it is the compilers" first it is the compilers | Apr 12 06:44 |
| matey | then it is the compiled programs | Apr 12 06:44 |
| matey | then the language changes | Apr 12 06:44 |
| matey | we can use sane languages while programs are written in them | Apr 12 06:45 |
| matey | then when programs shift towards insane languages, so do we | Apr 12 06:45 |
| matey | and its via the compilers but ultimately its the culture that shits itself | Apr 12 06:45 |
| matey | the only solution is to fix the culture-- the software will echo the culture | Apr 12 06:45 |
| matey | if the culture is sane the tools will be sane | Apr 12 06:46 |
| matey | if not at first then as they are worked on | Apr 12 06:46 |
| matey | and vice versa, if the culture is nuts, the tools will be ridiculous | Apr 12 06:46 |
| psydruid | it's failure on multiple levels | Apr 12 06:46 |
| matey | yes | Apr 12 06:46 |
| matey | but tools always conform to culture, with exceptions that come and go | Apr 12 06:46 |
| matey | tools can change culture, but only if culture is ready to make the mistake (or progress) | Apr 12 06:47 |
| matey | culture is always at a crossroads | Apr 12 06:47 |
| matey | sometimes it makes a good choice, other times it does something really stupid | Apr 12 06:47 |
| psydruid | if no one documented how the first free software was developed people are doomed to reinvent it, because the process got lost | Apr 12 06:47 |
| matey | youre talking about collective history | Apr 12 06:47 |
| matey | which is one of the most important things about a culture | Apr 12 06:48 |
| matey | its fucking nearly synonymous | Apr 12 06:48 |
| matey | collective historical awareness | Apr 12 06:48 |
| matey | has much more to do with the present than the past | Apr 12 06:48 |
| matey | the past didnt just shape the present once | Apr 12 06:49 |
| matey | it is constantly shaping the present | Apr 12 06:49 |
| matey | the future also shapes the present | Apr 12 06:49 |
| matey | although people dont think of it that way | Apr 12 06:49 |
| matey | their perception of the future is constantly shaping the present | Apr 12 06:49 |
| matey | but their perception of the past does at least as much | Apr 12 06:50 |
| matey | if we dont understand the past, we fuck with the present and the future | Apr 12 06:50 |
| matey | most of the most important information we have comes from the past | Apr 12 06:50 |
| psydruid | if there were history books (unix v7, MINIX, bsd), you could go back and build a better future from there skipping over the present | Apr 12 06:50 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.thedailybeast.com/psilocybin-magic-mushrooms-fight-depression-better-than-normal-medication-study-suggests?source=articles&via=rss | Apr 12 06:51 |
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| matey | history is very important | Apr 12 06:51 |
| matey | the present is also somewhat important | Apr 12 06:51 |
| matey | even now, people are making good decisions we can learn from | Apr 12 06:51 |
| matey | but lots more people are making stupid decisions right now | Apr 12 06:51 |
| psydruid | I consider gnu/linux a deadend | Apr 12 06:51 |
| matey | we have to be able to tell the difference | Apr 12 06:51 |
| matey | it is a dead end | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | if i ran the world there would be a museum for gnu | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | before they fuck it up any worse | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | youd still be free to work on it of course | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | ie to continue fucking it up | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | its freely licensed | Apr 12 06:52 |
| matey | then people would have a museum to look back on before it fucked itself | Apr 12 06:53 |
| matey | before fucking half of it was run by fucking microsoft | Apr 12 06:53 |
| matey | idiots | Apr 12 06:53 |
| matey | seriously, idiots! | Apr 12 06:53 |
| matey | dumb shit like this is what put stalin power | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | in power | Apr 12 06:54 |
| psydruid | gnu/linux has found a new home at microsoft and its abusive dad ibm | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | big disasters always start with little stupid things | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | like running windows on a fucking oil rig. | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | an oil rig! | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | and what happened, a fucking disaster | Apr 12 06:54 |
| matey | running windows on hospital equipment | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | so people see disasters like the deepwater horizon | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | like hospital equipment fucking up | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | and some stupid fuck at gnu says | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | hey, ive got a great idea! | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | lets trust these fuckwits with our gnu project! | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | fucking stupid. | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | its not even gnu at that point | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | its just fucking dumb. | Apr 12 06:55 |
| psydruid | systemdead at the hospital | Apr 12 06:55 |
| matey | so yeah, build gnu a museum | Apr 12 06:56 |
| matey | so people can see what it was before it was fucking stupid. | Apr 12 06:56 |
| psydruid | humandead at the hospital | Apr 12 06:56 |
| chunky | u use emacs + u suffer from jaundice + slipknot + u got a DNA test for all of ur children + u pay for spotify | Apr 12 06:56 |
| matey | brb | Apr 12 06:56 |
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| matey | at least gnu is making these mistakes in public | Apr 12 06:57 |
| matey | where more people can learn from them | Apr 12 06:57 |
| matey | too bad the public isnt more keen on learning | Apr 12 06:57 |
| matey | too bad gnu isnt either | Apr 12 06:57 |
| matey | "how to fuck up your revolution" | Apr 12 06:58 |
| matey | stalin made a pact with hitler for fucks sake | Apr 12 06:58 |
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| chunky | "Sorry we had to shut down your oil rig for updates" | Apr 12 06:59 |
| matey | stalin wasnt the worst communist in history, but he almost certainly inspired (and was one of) the worst communists in history | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | ATTENTION | Apr 12 07:00 |
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| chunky | Windows Protection Error | Apr 12 07:00 |
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| chunky | A fatal exception 0E has occured at 0028:C0011E36 in | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | VXD VMM(01) + 00010E36. The current application will | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | be terminated. | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | Apr 12 07:00 | |
| chunky | * Press any key to terminate the current application. | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | * Press CTRL+ALT+DEL again to restart your computer. | Apr 12 07:00 |
| chunky | You will lose any unsaved information in all applications. | Apr 12 07:00 |
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| matey | the worst sorts of "communism" take many pages from him | Apr 12 07:00 |
| matey | and they often get similar reults | Apr 12 07:00 |
| matey | you see a lot of mistakes being made in free software | Apr 12 07:01 |
| matey | ones that will destroy the movement for a while | Apr 12 07:01 |
| matey | could take years to rebuild | Apr 12 07:01 |
| matey | imo already has taken years. ive called systemd a cyberweapon against software freedom | Apr 12 07:02 |
| matey | its certainly effective | Apr 12 07:02 |
| psydruid | I hope some people eventually will do just that | Apr 12 07:02 |
| matey | freedom matters | Apr 12 07:02 |
| chunky | sometimes i wake up at night sweating thinking about how i use systemd and it makes me feel like i deserve to live in a sewage processing plant | Apr 12 07:02 |
| psydruid | maybe the likes of alan cox and activelow | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | and the answer isnt going pre-industrialist like pol pot wanted | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | i have no faith in alan cox. dont hate him or anything | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | he does some neat stuff | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | but he also really doesnt give a shit | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | so maybe someone who gives a shit can learn from his tech and apply it | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | but cox wont lead anything | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | he wont even follow anything | Apr 12 07:03 |
| matey | cox personality wise reminds me so much of linus i think they must be close relatives | Apr 12 07:04 |
| matey | most technologists dont give a shit about "other things" | Apr 12 07:05 |
| matey | stallman does, thats too rare | Apr 12 07:05 |
| matey | but free software is built on giving a shit about more than just tech | Apr 12 07:05 |
| matey | open source is like "we get it. you dont care. neither do we. join us." | Apr 12 07:05 |
| psydruid | it looks like most technologists care about some things | Apr 12 07:06 |
| matey | sure, the thing about blanket statements is none of them are true :) | Apr 12 07:06 |
| psydruid | like screwing over others for their personal gain | Apr 12 07:06 |
| matey | i mean thats corporate culture | Apr 12 07:06 |
| psydruid | even whole societies | Apr 12 07:06 |
| matey | society is owned by corporations | Apr 12 07:06 |
| matey | sure, the thing about blanket statements is none of them are true <- for kingoffrance | Apr 12 07:07 |
| psydruid | "world economic forum" for "society" | Apr 12 07:08 |
| matey | heh | Apr 12 07:08 |
| matey | madmen and upper class twits | Apr 12 07:09 |
| psydruid | makes me want to colonize mars to get away from all of these twats | Apr 12 07:09 |
| psydruid | but mincer would say the problem is us humans | Apr 12 07:09 |
| chunky | how can i cure my systemd dependence? | Apr 12 07:11 |
| psydruid | you are on freebsd so you have no systemd | Apr 12 07:11 |
| matey | mincer has run out of solutions | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | with that said hes funny as hell and smarter than average | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | being smart sucks | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | it means you too often know how full of shit people are | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | how bullshit so many things are | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | being smart makes you more likely to feel depressed and hopeless | Apr 12 07:12 |
| matey | as the same time, fighting that all your life can make you seriously fucking hilarious. | Apr 12 07:13 |
| matey | or suicidal | Apr 12 07:13 |
| matey | mincer is both | Apr 12 07:13 |
| matey | hes an extremely funny person, and hes waiting for the entire species to kill itself | Apr 12 07:13 |
| matey | suicide by proxy, times billions | Apr 12 07:13 |
| matey | im not saying hes likely to off himself, just that he wouldnt say no to the entire species doing it | Apr 12 07:14 |
| matey | but thats a KIND of suicidal. | Apr 12 07:14 |
| psydruid | then he wins | Apr 12 07:14 |
| matey | theres a talk that daniel quinn gave once called "the little engine that couldnt" | Apr 12 07:15 |
| matey | which is very much a response to what mincer says | Apr 12 07:15 |
| chunky | psydruid: i use arch on this machine | Apr 12 07:15 |
| matey | but this idea that the human race itself is so fundamentally fucked that it cant justify its existence | Apr 12 07:15 |
| chunky | i have a laptop w/ freebsd and i run it on any servers where i get to choose the OS | Apr 12 07:15 |
| matey | humanity is still fucking young | Apr 12 07:15 |
| matey | look at a toddler ffs | Apr 12 07:16 |
| matey | how can a toddler justify its existence? its the centre of its own universe and simply destroys everything until it gets its way | Apr 12 07:16 |
| activelow | there isn't any clean distribution remaining; not at least BaphometOS, which requires gcc-4.7 still | Apr 12 07:16 |
| matey | then it carries on its reign of destruction, while crying, laughing and shitting everywhere | Apr 12 07:16 |
| matey | and this grows into something that can give a shit about other people | Apr 12 07:17 |
| activelow | nonetheless, my IRC box and firewall are already migrated to the c-only system profile of baphometos | Apr 12 07:17 |
| matey | something that can reason and create and plan and make sense (sometimes) | Apr 12 07:17 |
| activelow | meaning, if it can be fed into tinycc compiler, baphometos will be the _last_ remaining | Apr 12 07:17 |
| matey | its very clear that humanity is in a toddler like state | Apr 12 07:17 |
| matey | or maybe its teens | Apr 12 07:18 |
| matey | and you know teen angst and teen suicide are very common themes | Apr 12 07:18 |
| matey | humanity needs to grow up, and its trying | Apr 12 07:18 |
| activelow | currently, baphometos is the last line of defense against gnu/linux/gcc and bsd/llvm distributions | Apr 12 07:18 |
| matey | its hard to look at a pissed off teen whose life is going nowhere, and try to figure out what you can even do with such a person | Apr 12 07:19 |
| matey | and yet some people manage just that | Apr 12 07:19 |
| matey | i havent given up on humanity yet, though ive gotten awfully close a bunch of times | Apr 12 07:19 |
| matey | to where im like "yeah, go ahead humanity, just kill yourself" | Apr 12 07:19 |
| matey | but usually only for a day. | Apr 12 07:20 |
| matey | i havent got that outlook like mincer does | Apr 12 07:20 |
| matey | and yet i agree with him on like 95% of the problem | Apr 12 07:20 |
| matey | its the rest of the picture that makes the world of difference | Apr 12 07:20 |
| matey | the thing is, even mincer still sort of believes in human evolution as a concept | Apr 12 07:21 |
| matey | but its obvious he barely manages to cling to it | Apr 12 07:21 |
| psydruid | mincer loves minced meat | Apr 12 07:21 |
| matey | i dont think ive ever had it | Apr 12 07:22 |
| matey | unless it was an ingredient in something | Apr 12 07:22 |
| psydruid | that was figuratively speaking | Apr 12 07:22 |
| matey | im not hopeless about free software either | Apr 12 07:23 |
| matey | its just that a lot of shits going to be very ugly | Apr 12 07:23 |
| psydruid | one of the things I realized a long time ago is that you can't stop people from dying | Apr 12 07:23 |
| matey | and i have no patiences for people polishing a golden turd | Apr 12 07:23 |
| psydruid | I'm not pessimistic at all | Apr 12 07:23 |
| psydruid | it's just that gnu/linux is an evolutionary dead end | Apr 12 07:24 |
| matey | its missing freedom 3 | Apr 12 07:24 |
| matey | but it swears otherwise, so thats the same as actually having it | Apr 12 07:25 |
| activelow | freedom 3, which was? | Apr 12 07:25 |
| psydruid | but baphometos can save it and also humanity | Apr 12 07:25 |
| matey | REALLY, YOU HAVE IT! LOOK AT THE LICENSE! | Apr 12 07:25 |
| psydruid | and the galaxy | Apr 12 07:25 |
| matey | i think baph is most useful as a tutorial | Apr 12 07:25 |
| matey | and performance art | Apr 12 07:25 |
| matey | if more people watched baph being made | Apr 12 07:25 |
| matey | they woudl learn something | Apr 12 07:26 |
| matey | it might change the way they do things | Apr 12 07:26 |
| matey | this is about all the praise i can muster for something based on the linux kernel | Apr 12 07:26 |
| matey | but im not being charitable | Apr 12 07:26 |
| matey | and im not joking either | Apr 12 07:26 |
| psydruid | you are being fair | Apr 12 07:30 |
| matey | i always try to be fair | Apr 12 07:33 |
| matey | its neither easy nor (imo) simple | Apr 12 07:33 |
| matey | because people are fucked up, almost like mincer says | Apr 12 07:33 |
| matey | almost | Apr 12 07:33 |
| matey | also i didnt learn fairness from my parents | Apr 12 07:33 |
| matey | i had to teach myself | Apr 12 07:34 |
| matey | i mean everybody can be fair to themselves, except masochists | Apr 12 07:34 |
| matey | simple, just give yourself loads of slack | Apr 12 07:34 |
| matey | being fair to other people is tricky | Apr 12 07:34 |
| matey | im using the word masochists as a joke, lots of people are actually really hard on themselves | Apr 12 07:35 |
| matey | for various reasons | Apr 12 07:35 |
| matey | suicide almost always happens to the wrong people | Apr 12 07:35 |
| matey | its almost never the people who can really make the world a better place by doing that | Apr 12 07:36 |
| matey | but lets say youre fair to yourself | Apr 12 07:36 |
| matey | being fair to other people is usually the tricky bit | Apr 12 07:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | could go to some corporation building and bomb oneself | Apr 12 07:37 |
| matey | i dont think that would help much | Apr 12 07:37 |
| matey | ive never seen much accomplished by people doing that either | Apr 12 07:37 |
| matey | the best way to be a martyr is to get killed by someone other than yourself | Apr 12 07:37 |
| matey | also martyrdom is not necessarily the best route to progress | Apr 12 07:38 |
| matey | martyrs have get this idea that the best way to get progress is to figure out how much your life is worth | Apr 12 07:39 |
| matey | and then they just try to cash that in on a one-time payment | Apr 12 07:39 |
| matey | you can make an economic argument that its stupid. i think most people go for an argument that its insane | Apr 12 07:39 |
| matey | but im sceptical that its the most useful course of action | Apr 12 07:39 |
| matey | che guevara was a martyr, and imo roughly useless as a revolutionary | Apr 12 07:41 |
| matey | he probably did everything wrong | Apr 12 07:41 |
| matey | most revolutionaries that make any sense dont propose anything remotely like what he did | Apr 12 07:42 |
| matey | starting out by resorting to violence in general is fucking stupid | Apr 12 07:42 |
| matey | thats not the same as being pacifist | Apr 12 07:42 |
| matey | somewhere between gandhi and che theres a good idea | Apr 12 07:43 |
| matey | but theres an awful lot of ideas between gandhi and che | Apr 12 07:43 |
| matey | gandhi was a bit of a charlatan | Apr 12 07:44 |
| matey | a lot of people i know would laugh at the understatement | Apr 12 07:44 |
| matey | i like thoreau and mlk | Apr 12 07:45 |
| matey | thoreau inspired both gandhi and mlk, and one of the reasons he was a minimalist was "voluntary poverty" to avoid being taxed and having taxes go to wars he thought were bullshit | Apr 12 07:46 |
| matey | not because he was a pacifist, afaik he just didnt like profiteering | Apr 12 07:46 |
| matey | thoreau inspires a lot of my approach to software | Apr 12 07:47 |
| matey | though so does one gandhi quote, from the movie, which may not even be his | Apr 12 07:48 |
| matey | for whatever reason, gandhi pushed the importance of homespun fabric | Apr 12 07:51 |
| matey | the mainstream western version of this is "buy local" | Apr 12 07:51 |
| matey | i got so tired of stores using "buy local" as an opportunity to milk customer and craftmaker alike that i wanted to wear a parody shirt to mock it | Apr 12 07:53 |
| matey | i wanted something to show two objects with quantum entanglement and for it to say "bi-local" | Apr 12 07:54 |
| matey | but i didnt think people would get it was a protest, and i dont have shirts made very often | Apr 12 07:54 |
| matey | it still would be a fun shirt though | Apr 12 07:54 |
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| matey | people could say "oh, heh, like buy local and i could say "yes, except it actually means something" | Apr 12 07:55 |
| matey | "On 23 December 2019, Drupal patched an arbitrary file upload flaw. The file-upload flaw affects Drupal 8.8.x before 8.8.1 and 8.7.x before 8.7.11, and the vulnerability is listed as moderately critical by Drupal." | Apr 12 07:57 |
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| matey | "In late March 2018, a patch for vulnerability CVE-2018-7600, also dubbed Drupalgeddon2, was released. The underlying bug allows remote attackers without special roles or permissions to take complete control of Drupal 6, 7, and 8 sites." | Apr 12 07:59 |
| matey | ouch | Apr 12 07:59 |
| matey | "Kris Buytaert is one of instigators of the devops movement and a long time Linux and Open Source Consultant." | Apr 12 08:04 |
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| matey | he also signed the anti-rms letter | Apr 12 08:04 |
| activelow | if a static site generator suffices, i'll choose this | Apr 12 08:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | I should have signed both letters just for fun | Apr 12 08:05 |
| chunky | hugo is a very good static site generator | Apr 12 08:06 |
| matey | /me is sure its fun for 3000 idiots to say all sorts of horrible generally untrue things about you and then sign it while demanding for a second time you get deposed from the very thing you founded thirty fucking years ago | Apr 12 08:08 |
| matey | but some people just dont give a fuck | Apr 12 08:09 |
| matey | at any rate i can be pretty sure that 90%+ of the people who signed it dont give a shit about my freedom, nor stallmans, and not likely anyone elses | Apr 12 08:14 |
| matey | but im not a statistician, so i cant be completely sure | Apr 12 08:14 |
| matey | ironically, mjg is. he MIGHT be able to help me figure it out, but i wouldnt count on it. | Apr 12 08:15 |
| matey | then again, taking it in school and doing it on a daily basis are two different things | Apr 12 08:16 |
| matey | but lets assume for one moment theyre the same, and-- same conclusion | Apr 12 08:17 |
| matey | we could simply invoke sturgeons law | Apr 12 08:17 |
| mjg59_ | My stats is pretty out of date | Apr 12 08:20 |
| mjg59_ | Over a decade since I really did statistical analysis of anything | Apr 12 08:21 |
| matey | it was mostly rhetorical | Apr 12 08:21 |
| matey | still you have far more statistics training than i do | Apr 12 08:21 |
| mjg59_ | I even used to teach some! | Apr 12 08:21 |
| matey | there you go | Apr 12 08:21 |
| mjg59_ | It's usually taught dreadfully | Apr 12 08:22 |
| matey | most things are | Apr 12 08:22 |
| matey | teaching i figure, isnt taught well either | Apr 12 08:22 |
| matey | though i dont always blame the teachers. schools DO get in the way | Apr 12 08:22 |
| matey | and the state in the way of the schools | Apr 12 08:22 |
| matey | sometimes in good ways, and certainly not always | Apr 12 08:22 |
| mjg59_ | Eh this was at Cambridge, I think blaming the teachers there is legit | Apr 12 08:23 |
| matey | ive never heard of a school where all the teachers were good | Apr 12 08:23 |
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| SomeH4x0r | no idea why would one go work into a weird education system which damages children mental health for their entire life | Apr 12 08:39 |
| matey | i think a lot of people view university as separate from that | Apr 12 08:40 |
| matey | which i agree and disagree with | Apr 12 08:40 |
| SomeH4x0r | past child education it is probably different | Apr 12 08:40 |
| matey | child education has barely evolved in 1000 years, though its certainly scaled up a bit | Apr 12 08:40 |
| SomeH4x0r | I meant to say adult education | Apr 12 08:41 |
| matey | also children are beaten less, though most abuse (at school or anywhere else) isnt physical in nature | Apr 12 08:41 |
| SomeH4x0r | governments treats children as slaves of their parents | Apr 12 08:41 |
| matey | yes and no | Apr 12 08:41 |
| matey | one of the goals of marxism is to make it so that children arent property of the state or their parents | Apr 12 08:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | some restrictions of course, but otherwise yes | Apr 12 08:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | I'm for banning of reproduction | Apr 12 08:42 |
| matey | in a society where basic needs are taken care of, you dont technically have to raise, feed or even clothe your kids | Apr 12 08:42 |
| matey | I'm for banning of reproduction <- somehow i think thats worse | Apr 12 08:43 |
| matey | china and nazi germany have both toyed with that idea, rather infamously | Apr 12 08:43 |
| matey | unfortunately mike godwin was still born | Apr 12 08:43 |
| matey | or i should say, born anyway | Apr 12 08:44 |
| SomeH4x0r | though I got my mental health damaged by parent stupidity and I am now unhappy when I see kids or pets | Apr 12 08:44 |
| matey | a lot of mental health problems are treatable | Apr 12 08:44 |
| matey | which isnt as good as prevention obviously | Apr 12 08:44 |
| matey | but prevention isnt the last option | Apr 12 08:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | won't forget "baby talk" and not taking children seriously, and lies | Apr 12 08:46 |
| matey | i think baby talk is well intentioned | Apr 12 08:47 |
| matey | its always been my inclination to talk to babies with normal language | Apr 12 08:48 |
| SomeH4x0r | years of my life were wasted on stupid things my parents have had no interest in, but pretended like they did | Apr 12 08:48 |
| matey | i dont think most people have great parents | Apr 12 08:48 |
| matey | some at least have decent parents | Apr 12 08:48 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't talk to kids, at least on purpose. Thanks to evil laws, if one is less than 13 on the Internet, they'd better not disclose it. | Apr 12 08:49 |
| matey | that was a naive law, at best | Apr 12 08:49 |
| matey | its the sort of law they pass to prevent a mob | Apr 12 08:50 |
| SomeH4x0r | oh, though I talk to some people who are less than 18, but I don't treat them any different | Apr 12 08:50 |
| SomeH4x0r | wasting one's time on purpose is not productive at all, and people generally don't know when they die | Apr 12 08:51 |
| matey | unfortunatly society is full of time sinks | Apr 12 08:52 |
| SomeH4x0r | parents waste 18 years of their lives at least. A lot can happen during this time, wars escalate in a few days sometimes. | Apr 12 08:52 |
| matey | a lot of parents dont consider it a waste of time | Apr 12 08:53 |
| SomeH4x0r | I want to not have persistent people in my home, so they don't annoy me | Apr 12 08:53 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't get marriage and childbirth | Apr 12 08:54 |
| matey | i think your take on this is highly subjective and probably doesnt explain society in general | Apr 12 08:54 |
| matey | of course everyones take is subjective, some takes more than others | Apr 12 08:54 |
| matey | marriage of course isnt required for childbirth | Apr 12 08:55 |
| matey | a lot of people prefer childbirth in a situation where someone has promised to help them for a really long time | Apr 12 08:56 |
| matey | childbirth isnt required for marriage either | Apr 12 08:57 |
| matey | some people just like knowing someone has promised to help them for a really long time | Apr 12 08:57 |
| SomeH4x0r | it is weird, I don't imagine having children with my IRC friends no matter what they do | Apr 12 08:59 |
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| matey | i dont think thats weird | Apr 12 08:59 |
| matey | most people dont imagine having kids with someone until theyve at least met in person | Apr 12 08:59 |
| matey | id say if youre not inclined to think of anyone as a life partner, youre a lot less likely to imagine having kids with them | Apr 12 09:00 |
| SomeH4x0r | and I'm just too tired from my parents, would need to spend a while without persistent people at least before I feel better, if I ever do | Apr 12 09:01 |
| matey | of course | Apr 12 09:01 |
| matey | then again, if you dont want kids, you shouldnt have them | Apr 12 09:01 |
| SomeH4x0r | I want offline AI to talk with | Apr 12 09:02 |
| SomeH4x0r | though I won't want it anymore at some point as computers would turn into government abuse machines | Apr 12 09:02 |
| matey | are you certain that would fulfil your needs for communication? | Apr 12 09:02 |
| matey | yeah i mean most machines can be listened to from either the airwaves or the electrical system | Apr 12 09:03 |
| matey | if you managed to shield your computer and monitor and keyboard sufficiently, its still possible to tap the power to your home | Apr 12 09:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | not sure, though not sure if a properly isolated human would fulfil them either | Apr 12 09:04 |
| matey | why isolated? | Apr 12 09:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | so they don't leak stuff | Apr 12 09:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | I try not to put random stuff I hear into search engines. Others probably will. | Apr 12 09:05 |
| matey | i think you have an exaggerated case of a reasonable concern there | Apr 12 09:05 |
| matey | or an extreme case of a reasonable concern | Apr 12 09:06 |
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| matey | healthy relationships are based on the right level of trust | Apr 12 09:15 |
| matey | too trusting and youll be taken advantage of, sometimes, maybe often | Apr 12 09:15 |
| matey | not trusting enough and youll never gain the full benefits of friendship | Apr 12 09:16 |
| matey | i started talking to a girl not too long ago, just as a friend | Apr 12 09:16 |
| matey | shes in her late 30s | Apr 12 09:16 |
| matey | she let me into her home to give me something, even though i did not need to enter her home to get it | Apr 12 09:17 |
| matey | she joined me for lunch but was against either of us eating in her home, which is perfectly reasonable | Apr 12 09:17 |
| matey | though from the details of what she said it was clear she trusted me enough to let me into her home, as long as i didnt stay there for lunch | Apr 12 09:18 |
| matey | which i personally think is a bit weird, but not terribly | Apr 12 09:18 |
| matey | i suppose lunch is a different level of comfortable than letting me in for a moment, even when i didnt need to enter at all | Apr 12 09:18 |
| matey | but the point is that the entire time i knew her | Apr 12 09:19 |
| matey | it was a mix of randomly displaying comfort and trust and the lack of an ordinary level of comfort and trust | Apr 12 09:19 |
| SomeH4x0r | I have issues socializing irl, it is better on the Internet, but then the government will take the Internet and I will have to leave | Apr 12 09:19 |
| matey | if there had been an adequate level of communication we could have worked around that | Apr 12 09:19 |
| matey | but every conversation was the same way as the rest of the interaction | Apr 12 09:20 |
| matey | she clearly has trust issues and i appreciate that | Apr 12 09:20 |
| matey | but i was unable to find a way to navigate those, tried as i might | Apr 12 09:20 |
| matey | ultimately i decided to leave her alone, as i felt that would make her more comfortable | Apr 12 09:20 |
| matey | i appreciate her making the effort, and i tried to return the favour | Apr 12 09:21 |
| matey | but i just didnt have any confidence it was doing either of us any good | Apr 12 09:21 |
| matey | she has 5 ways to contact me-- more than most (i didnt supply all of them) | Apr 12 09:22 |
| matey | she hasnt used any of them, i think i made the right choice. | Apr 12 09:22 |
| matey | or maybe she feels bad, but either way it was just way too much trouble | Apr 12 09:23 |
| matey | do you have cb radio in your country? | Apr 12 09:25 |
| matey | ive known people who have serious problems interacting with people (on and off the spectrum) who enjoyed dealing with people over radio instead | Apr 12 09:26 |
| matey | one is a ham operator but uses it a lot like cb | Apr 12 09:26 |
| matey | the other had a cb radio in her home | Apr 12 09:26 |
| matey | before the internet was common, a number of people had cb radios in their homes | Apr 12 09:27 |
| SomeH4x0r | no idea if there is, but I only have FM receivers | Apr 12 09:27 |
| matey | https://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Ham_Radio/Regional/Ukraine/ https://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Ham_Radio/Clubs/Europe/Ukraine/ | Apr 12 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ukraine : Ham Radio in Ukraine - The DXZone.com | Apr 12 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dxzone.com | Amateur radio clubs in Ukraine : Amateur radio clubs in Ukraine | Apr 12 09:30 | |
| SomeH4x0r | anyway, there is another person on IRC I know who is/was interested in this topic | Apr 12 09:30 |
| SomeH4x0r | just realized there is a siren outside, bbl | Apr 12 09:32 |
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| matey | "According to the media outlet Kyiv Independent, amateur radio transmitting devices have been suspended under the newly approved country-wide state of emergency." | Apr 12 09:33 |
| matey | ffs | Apr 12 09:33 |
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| matey | lol | Apr 12 09:38 |
| matey | https://www.insider.com/hackers-change-call-sign-of-putin-linked-superyacht-to-fckptn-2022-3 | Apr 12 09:38 |
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| matey | "You cannot change AIS data by hacking into the AIS transponder of a ship. This was done by feeding fake AIS messages into marinetraffic.com, something that everyone can do." | Apr 12 09:39 |
| matey | "A friend of mine once wrote a small script that fed the data of 14 fake ships into marinetraffic.com, resulting in a clock drawn at sea (12 for each hour position in a circle) and two acting as hour and minute hands." | Apr 12 09:39 |
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| kingoffrance | just came to say i wont be back, cant be "governed" by "luciferian" MinceR with what could amount to an invisible undeclared CoCs. thats my pass T8Aq5735GYRmXTYb if anyone shows up on this server it aint me. seen enough trumpism nonsense from "anarchists" for one lifetime matey has a great sense of humor lol enjoy the "anarchy" with corporate "persons" as "god" i guess, inquisition 2.0 invisible "law" invisible "crimes" invisible "court | Apr 12 09:41 |
| kingoffrance | s" lol adios amigos, you can ban my IP would be appreciated ANARCHY!!! | Apr 12 09:41 |
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| matey | that was unexpected | Apr 12 09:52 |
| matey | cheers kingoffrance | Apr 12 09:54 |
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| matey | kof has been pretty chill every day ive known him, so i would have never expected burnout | Apr 12 10:04 |
| matey | or for him to take mincer (too) seriously | Apr 12 10:04 |
| matey | every day ive known him <- for more than a year | Apr 12 10:04 |
| activelow | :( | Apr 12 10:05 |
| matey | anarchy is a reasonable goal, i only differ enough on how to get there that i have to turn in my "anarchist" card | Apr 12 10:06 |
| matey | i can probably get it back later, when i dont need it anyway | Apr 12 10:06 |
| *activelow did not follow the drama | Apr 12 10:06 | |
| matey | eh | Apr 12 10:06 |
| activelow | exactly why did he leave? | Apr 12 10:06 |
| matey | im blaming msg. | Apr 12 10:07 |
| activelow | ? | Apr 12 10:07 |
| matey | long story | Apr 12 10:07 |
| matey | but seriously, im calling burnout | Apr 12 10:07 |
| matey | i just wasnt expecting it from him | Apr 12 10:08 |
| matey | i still think hes cool by the way | Apr 12 10:09 |
| matey | burnout makes people quit | Apr 12 10:09 |
| matey | or think they have to | Apr 12 10:09 |
| matey | as for how to live without a state... | Apr 12 10:14 |
| matey | humanity has done that for most of its existence | Apr 12 10:14 |
| activelow | "humanity" is an _abstract_ | Apr 12 10:14 |
| matey | fair enough | Apr 12 10:14 |
| matey | by "humanity" i mean the billions of people on the face of the planet at a given time | Apr 12 10:15 |
| matey | in this instance i mean the ones on the planet right now | Apr 12 10:15 |
| matey | though i wont promise to never speak of humanity in a historical context | Apr 12 10:15 |
| activelow | unspecific again, then how do the billions live, where and when? | Apr 12 10:15 |
| matey | actually in this instance im speaking of all the people who have lived on earth up to and including this point | Apr 12 10:16 |
| matey | unspecific again <- you want me to be specific about every person ever? | Apr 12 10:16 |
| activelow | even tribal societies establish some social order etc.; which served survival, and without it extinction | Apr 12 10:16 |
| matey | thats not entirely reasonable is it? | Apr 12 10:16 |
| matey | take the sum of the experience of the species homo sapiens, cut that in half, and even less of it has ever pertained to experience of a "state" of any sort | Apr 12 10:18 |
| matey | in terms of government | Apr 12 10:18 |
| matey | anarchy is natural, but more importantly its a default. | Apr 12 10:18 |
| matey | the state is an exception | Apr 12 10:19 |
| matey | sort of like internal combustion vehicles or copyright law | Apr 12 10:19 |
| matey | most of the time that homo sapiens have existed, copyright, internal combusion vehicles and state governments did not exist | Apr 12 10:20 |
| matey | of course since that time weve also been to outer space, developed treatments for diabetics and cancer patients, and harnessed (to some degree) the atom | Apr 12 10:21 |
| matey | and if we arent careful, we will attribute those achievements to things that existed in the same timeframe, whether the credit can truly go to those or not | Apr 12 10:22 |
| matey | but the state is a powerful drug, and people get addicted to it, and feel threatened without it | Apr 12 10:23 |
| activelow | if you attribute "anarchy" with "natural", you're again resorting to some _abstract_; and again some type of natural order isn't anarchist - rather the opposite | Apr 12 10:24 |
| matey | my argument doesnt depend on anarchy being natural | Apr 12 10:24 |
| matey | the only reason i mention it is to show that our species has ALREADY managed to live without a state | Apr 12 10:24 |
| activelow | it hasn't | Apr 12 10:25 |
| matey | really | Apr 12 10:25 |
| matey | so um | Apr 12 10:25 |
| matey | how old is the state then? | Apr 12 10:25 |
| matey | i mean how far back was the first one? | Apr 12 10:25 |
| activelow | yet, a "government" isn't the state; or whatever else you are referring to with "the state" | Apr 12 10:25 |
| matey | whether you call it government or state | Apr 12 10:26 |
| matey | i think its safe to say that its newer than homo sapiens | Apr 12 10:26 |
| matey | but maybe you know something i dont | Apr 12 10:26 |
| activelow | well, this distinction is important, what government and state were | Apr 12 10:26 |
| activelow | and both existed since the beginning, of homo | Apr 12 10:26 |
| matey | that sounds a lot like rewriting history to me | Apr 12 10:27 |
| activelow | within any family clan, if any social order exists, which it does, almost always among homo sapiens, then this establish both some "state", the social order, and any type of authority/ruler of it | Apr 12 10:28 |
| matey | ah i see | Apr 12 10:28 |
| activelow | anyway, why would anyone leave the server over a dispute concerning this? | Apr 12 10:28 |
| matey | so you consider any form of social order to be government or state | Apr 12 10:28 |
| matey | anyway, why would anyone leave the server over a dispute concerning this? <- burnout | Apr 12 10:29 |
| matey | he was literally so tired of arguing that he decided not to anymore | Apr 12 10:29 |
| activelow | the social order _is_ the state, yet states may exist without any excessive authority (government) | Apr 12 10:29 |
| chunky | damn.. i miss kingoffrance.. | Apr 12 10:30 |
| matey | the social order _is_ the state <- not that i want to | Apr 12 10:32 |
| matey | but somehow i think if we explore that idea far enough we will debunk it | Apr 12 10:32 |
| matey | im content to simply disagree | Apr 12 10:33 |
| matey | german communism is notoriously obtuse and i wouldnt really expect german concepts of state to be different | Apr 12 10:34 |
| matey | i dont even know if germany is to blame here | Apr 12 10:34 |
| matey | only that politically speaking... i mean i wouldnt be too surprised | Apr 12 10:35 |
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| DaemonFC | I need an oil change. It seems like nobody really beats the dealership too much on those. | Apr 12 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Apr 12 11:28 |
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| DaemonFC | There we go. Dealership for an oil change and cabin air filter. | Apr 12 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Those videos make it look like cabin air filter replacement isn't a big deal on the Impala/Lacrosse, but it kind of is because of the way the filter goes in. | Apr 12 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | GM couldn't just make it like most other cars where you open up the glove box, yank it, and push the new one in. | Apr 12 11:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 11, 2022 | Techrights | Apr 12 12:00 | |
| DaemonFC | matey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kKoqE-sAb8 | Apr 12 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=1kKoqE-sAb8 | Apr 12 12:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Slavery With Extra Steps - Invidious | Apr 12 12:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, People go to Walmart for oil changes and they shouldn't. | Apr 12 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart costs about the same as a dealer oil change with a coupon, except that Walmart makes you wait 4 hours somehow to trap you in the stupid store. | Apr 12 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Then they have people who aren't mechanics work on your car for minimum wage. Half the time they strip out or round the oil pan drain plug, or cross thread it, or don't put oil in, and that will do a lot of damage to your wallet obviously. | Apr 12 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | ANd then if you file an engine damage claim, Walmart is their own insurance company and goes "We're Walmart. Sue us. LOL". | Apr 12 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | Half the time if you ask them for an air filter to be installed, they managed to break the retainer clips on your air intake box, and the other half the time they don't even do it, and still charge you for it. | Apr 12 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, that all assumes that they agree to do anything to your car to begin with. THEY ARE PICKY. If your car has ANY quirks at all, they make you wait 4 hours and page you back to the automotive center and refuse to do the service. | Apr 12 12:18 |
| zuka | whats the site that tell you what oil is suitable to what car? | Apr 12 12:19 |
| zuka | DaemonFC https://speedcamanywhere.com/ | Apr 12 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-speedcamanywhere.com | Speedcam Anywhere | Apr 12 12:26 | |
| zuka | make your roads safer | Apr 12 12:26 |
| zuka | Speedcam Anywhere turns your smartphone or tablet into a portable speed camera. | Apr 12 12:27 |
| zuka | how cool is that | Apr 12 12:27 |
| zuka | now anyone can be a trafic cop | Apr 12 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | <zuka> whats the site that tell you what oil is suitable to what car? | Apr 12 12:43 |
| zuka | yes? | Apr 12 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. Typically, if it says you use 5w20, 5w30, or 5w40 in the owner's manual, you can use the corresponding 0wxx for the car. | Apr 12 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | And a good rule is that engines that say you can use conventional oil will wear less on synthetic, but engines that specify full synthetic must not use conventional. | Apr 12 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Or it will do serious damage. | Apr 12 12:45 |
| zuka | so whats the site? | Apr 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | I just look at the manufacturer's manual or TSB. | Apr 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | Ford said run the 1996 Crown Victoria with 5w30, but later said you could use 5w20 back to 1992. | Apr 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | So I ran it on 0w20 for years and nothing bad ever happened. | Apr 12 12:46 |
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| techrights-news | TuxMachines will be back shortly. Please do not submit any stories until the evening as we restore the site to its ptevious state (there was a DB issue) | Apr 12 12:52 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββ βββββ β β β β βββ βββ βββββββ ββββββββ ββ avg(k/sec) 20.18 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 68.13β swarm size (avg): 358.48 β² | Apr 12 12:59 |
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| psydruid | Π·ΡΠΊΠ° Π±Π»ΡΡΡ | Apr 12 13:34 |
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| zuka | psydruid 13:33:37 | Apr 12 13:44 |
| psydruid | :) | Apr 12 13:45 |
| *zuka Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 2 | Apr 12 13:47 | |
| zuka | cantt one virtualize a tpm chip | Apr 12 13:51 |
| zuka | to make windows 11 happy | Apr 12 13:51 |
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| techrights-news | Archcraft April Release Available β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163621 | Apr 12 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Archcraft April Release Available | Tux Machines | Apr 12 13:59 | |
| techrights-news | TuxMachines now fully recovered from its database crash. We had to restore many nodes by hand. | Apr 12 14:00 |
| zuka | the site is working agian :) | Apr 12 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, lots of work on that | Apr 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll need to also upgrade the software some time soon | Apr 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the storage engine is not so reliable | Apr 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had an incident similar to this about 3-4 years agoi | Apr 12 14:04 |
| MinceR | 12 080929 < psydruid> makes me want to colonize mars to get away from all of these twats | Apr 12 14:09 |
| MinceR | with the right subset, it could theoretically work | Apr 12 14:10 |
| MinceR | the problems are getting the right subset to go and terraforming mars | Apr 12 14:10 |
| MinceR | we don't have the technology for the latter | Apr 12 14:10 |
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| techrights-news | "Earlier this year I started a PhD in pure mathematics at KU Leuven in Belgium and in this blog post I discuss my research workflow." β https://castel.dev/post/research-workflow/ | Source: 0 | Apr 12 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-castel.dev | My Mathematics PhD research workflow | Gilles Castel | Apr 12 14:26 | |
| techrights-news | "It's amazing to me how much FUD is being spread about the Fediverse in that post." β https://blog.peerverse.space/lets-talk-about-project/ | Source: 0 | Apr 12 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.peerverse.space | Let's talk about Bluesky | Apr 12 14:26 | |
| techrights-news | "At least 153 pieces of cryptocurrency-related legislation were pending this year in 40 states and Puerto Rico" β https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html | Source: New York Times | Apr 12 14:29 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: nytimes.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html | Apr 12 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Crypto Industry Helps Write, and Pass, Its Own Agenda in State Capitols - The New York Times | Apr 12 14:29 | |
| techrights-news | Hungary, Orban, and the other virus β https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/fact-check-have-hungarian-researchers-proven-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-not-quite | Source: Hungary | Apr 12 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Fact-check: Have Hungarian researchers proven that Covid βescapedβ from a lab? Not quite. | Apr 12 14:44 | |
| techrights-news | They always say they care about children... β https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/ngos-to-be-fined-for-encouraging-invalid-votes-at-the-hungarian-governments-child-protection-referendum | Source: Hungary | Apr 12 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: NGOs to be fined for encouraging invalid votes at the Hungarian governmentβs child protection referendum | Apr 12 14:44 | |
| psydruid | > cantt one virtualize a tpm chip | Apr 12 14:49 |
| psydruid | > to make windows 11 happy | Apr 12 14:49 |
| psydruid | I did that, but it's slow as hell on my hardware when updating | Apr 12 14:49 |
| psydruid | I would need to buy new hardware to be able to run it comfortably and to be abused by it properly | Apr 12 14:49 |
| activelow | tpm => serial number => user identification | Apr 12 14:51 |
| activelow | the idea, to install any operating system, is confabulated brain washing; | Apr 12 14:52 |
| activelow | it is flawed by design somehow, not because of political reasons, because of technical ones; given the fact which benefit an immutable operating system residing on ROM-type memorys can have | Apr 12 14:53 |
| MinceR | ah yes, immutable security holes | Apr 12 14:56 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββββ β βββ βββββββββββββ ββββ ββββββ avg(k/sec) 14.68 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββ ββββββββββββββ ββ avg(k/sec) 122.13β swarm size (avg): 300.96 β² | Apr 12 14:59 |
| techrights-news | "Although the hearing covered bread and butter issues, the mainstream corporate media ignored it." β https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/11/corporate-media-ignores-senate-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-inflation/ | Source: Counter Punch | Apr 12 14:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corporate Media Ignores Senate Hearing on Corporate Greed and Inflation - CounterPunch.org | Apr 12 14:59 | |
| techrights-news | "3D laser engraving" β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/quick-hacks-countersinking-screw-heads-with-3d-laser-engraving/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quick Hacks: Countersinking Screw Heads With 3D Laser Engraving | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | "Computer memory has taken on many forms over the years" β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/glow-in-the-dark-computer-memory-illuminates-the-fundamentals/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glow In The Dark Computer Memory Illuminates The Fundamentals | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | "IΒ likened ivermectin to acupuncture" β https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/11/sbm-versus-ivermectin-and-other-implausible-treatments/ | Source: Orac | Apr 12 15:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | SBM versus ivermectin and other implausible treatments - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE | Apr 12 15:02 | |
| techrights-news | "/e/OS from /e/ Foundation is one of the very few Android-based operating systems" β https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/ | Source: PIA | Apr 12 15:02 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/ | Apr 12 15:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Get Google out of Your Mobile Life with /e/OS | Apr 12 15:02 | |
| techrights-news | The 5 Things That Taught Me The Most About Linux β https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/the-5-things-that-taught-me-the-most:7 δ· Source: DistroTube | Apr 12 15:06 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: odysee.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/the-5-things-that-taught-me-the-most:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/the-5-things-that-taught-me-the-most:7 | Apr 12 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | The 5 Things That Taught Me The Most About Linux | Apr 12 15:06 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: MS = sabotage; microsofters = saboteurs; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/politics/us-russia-malware-cyberattacks.html | Apr 12 15:06 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: nytimes.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/politics/us-russia-malware-cyberattacks.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/politics/us-russia-malware-cyberattacks.html | Apr 12 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | U.S. Says It Secretly Removed Malware Worldwide, Pre-empting Russian Cyberattacks - The New York Times | Apr 12 15:06 | |
| techrights-news | Meet Lite XL: A Lightweight, Open-Source Text Editor for Linux Users β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163622 | Apr 12 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet Lite XL: A Lightweight, Open-Source Text Editor for Linux Users | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:13 | |
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| techrights-news | A liberal education https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/liberal-education | Apr 12 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Liberal Education | Apr 12 15:16 | |
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| activelow | MinceR: a ROM doesn't prevent "updates"; and updates are sickening more often than providing a cure | Apr 12 15:19 |
| techrights-news | Try this open source alternative to Salesforce β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163623 | Apr 12 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Try this open source alternative to Salesforce | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:19 | |
| techrights-news | 5 Best Free and Open Source Incident Response Tools β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163624 | Apr 12 15:19 |
| MinceR | it's painful to fix bugs in ROM | Apr 12 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Free and Open Source Incident Response Tools | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:20 | |
| MinceR | but sure, OS-es shouldn't be so crap that their updates make them worse | Apr 12 15:20 |
| activelow | some bios roms got a mechanical dip switch, to enable read-only, floppy disk too contained a mechanical switch, for read-only | Apr 12 15:20 |
| activelow | i keep my linux rootfs inside squashfs, for obvious reasons | Apr 12 15:21 |
| techrights-news | "EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OβBrien" β https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-making-hope-adam-savage | Gilmore and Barlow knew better how to run EFF | Apr 12 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Making Hope, with Adam Savage | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 12 15:22 | |
| MinceR | flip a switch to toggle read-only is a good idea | Apr 12 15:24 |
| activelow | it is the basic principle, of many "security" features | Apr 12 15:25 |
| techrights-news | "The fallout from Russia's invasion of Ukraine has reminded us of the unforeseeable disruptions constantly confronting the global economy." β https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/11/economic-shock-therapy-neoliberals | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 12 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Economic Shock Therapy for Neoliberals | Joseph Stiglitz | Apr 12 15:25 | |
| activelow | reminds me, of the harvard architecture again, and the nx-bit, which Intel boasted about, yet rarely is any policy enforced, to utilize it, this read-only mechanism for memory | Apr 12 15:26 |
| techrights-news | "The United Kingdom's ostensibly leftist Labour Party came under fire Monday after calling for nationwide injunctions to block direct actions" β https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/disgrace-uk-labour-party-slammed-seeking-injunction-against-climate-activists | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 12 15:26 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/disgrace-uk-labour-party-slammed-seeking-injunction-against-climate-activists https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/disgrace-uk-labour-party-slammed-seeking-injunction-against-climate-activists | Apr 12 15:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'A Disgrace': UK Labour Party Slammed for Seeking Injunction Against Climate Activists | Apr 12 15:26 | |
| activelow | got some kernel patches still, for amd64, which i sraped and forward-ported to kernel 5.10, to enforce nx-bit policy for main memory | Apr 12 15:27 |
| techrights-news | "A coalition of progressive leaders from across the globe demanded Monday that the Biden administration immediately drop all charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange" β https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/global-progressive-leaders-urge-biden-drop-us-charges-against-assange | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 12 15:27 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/global-progressive-leaders-urge-biden-drop-us-charges-against-assange https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/global-progressive-leaders-urge-biden-drop-us-charges-against-assange | Apr 12 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Global Progressive Leaders Urge Biden to Drop US Charges Against Assange | Apr 12 15:27 | |
| activelow | no clue, why not at least this is maintained as it should, with the mountain of "security" fuzz around linux kernel | Apr 12 15:27 |
| techrights-news | Linux 4.9.310 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163625 | Apr 12 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.310 | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:30 | |
| techrights-news | 8+ Locate command usage with examples for Linux β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163626 | Apr 12 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8+ Locate command usage with examples for Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:30 | |
| activelow | anyway, "installation" of an operating system is CIA brainwashing their customers, to think this is how it should be, instead of loading DOS from read-only floppy disk into memory, as it was | Apr 12 15:30 |
| techrights-news | Pscp in Linux System: Everything You Need To Know About β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163627 | Apr 12 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pscp in Linux System: Everything You Need To Know About | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:30 | |
| techrights-news | MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower" β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163628 | Apr 12 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower" | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:30 | |
| activelow | and how much had progressed operating system design since then, what a glory | Apr 12 15:31 |
| techrights-news | "Commenters told him that the best fluid level sensor was a hacked blood pressure monitor." β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/blood-pressure-cuff-hacked-into-water-level-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blood Pressure Cuff Hacked Into Water Level Sensor | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | GulagTube is not suitable for science β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/trenton-computer-festival-makes-youtube-debut/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trenton Computer Festival Makes YouTube Debut | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:32 | |
| techrights-news | 5G β https://www.projectcensored.org/expansion-of-wireless-5g-technology-to-oceans-threatens-wildlife/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 12 15:32 |
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| techrights-news | "Steam Turbine Skateboard" β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/a-v2-rocket-inspired-steam-turbine-skateboard-is-just-around-the-corner/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A V2 Rocket Inspired Steam Turbine Skateboard Is Just Around The Corner | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:38 | |
| techrights-news | "Weβre fans of unusual forms of transport here, so when we saw an article featuring a home-made motorcycle chariot we knew we had to share it with you." β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/this-chariot-is-pulled-by-a-team-of-motorcycles/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 12 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Chariot Is Pulled By A Team Of Motorcycles | Hackaday | Apr 12 15:38 | |
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| techrights-news | EndeavourOS Apollo Release Introduces a new Worm Window Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163607#comment-33327 | Apr 12 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EndeavourOS: The Apollo release has landed | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:41 | |
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| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163629 | Apr 12 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:44 | |
| techrights-news | Patents kill. WTO profits from death. β https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/11/leaked-wto-covid-patent-waiver-text-very-bad | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 12 15:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Leaked WTO Covid Patent Waiver Text Is Very Bad | Fatima Hassan | Apr 12 15:45 | |
| techrights-news | Qualcomm Edge AI Vision kit combines Qualcomm QCS610 SoC & Sony IMX415 4K ultra low light camera β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163630 | Apr 12 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomm Edge AI Vision kit combines Qualcomm QCS610 SoC & Sony IMX415 4K ultra low light camera | Tux Machines | Apr 12 15:58 | |
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| matey | well if the cia is trying to stop people from loading the os from a chip | Apr 12 16:11 |
| matey | theyre losing big time on the smartphone front | Apr 12 16:12 |
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| zuka | the cia wants to be able to load the ciaOS | Apr 12 16:19 |
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| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/criminalized-onion-relish.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/just-wait-til-the-onion-hits-my-colon/ ) | Apr 12 16:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | Just wait til the onion hits my colon⦠| Apr 12 16:52 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββ ββββββββ ββ βββ β ββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 17.88 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 87.68β swarm size (avg): 366.13 β² | Apr 12 16:59 |
| techrights-news | "Facebookβs DIO consists of three tiers of banned users." β https://www.projectcensored.org/facebooks-blacklist-of-dangerous-individuals-and-organizations-stifles-public-debate/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 12 17:04 |
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| techrights-news | ScamCoins β https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/double-your-crypto-scams-share-crypto-scam-host/ | Source: Krebs On Security | Apr 12 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Double-Your-Crypto Scams Share Crypto Scam Host β Krebs on Security | Apr 12 17:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Today also marks the three year anniversary of when Julian Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy in London by the Metropolitan Police" β https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/progressive-leaders-call-on-us-president-joe-biden-to-drop-the-charges-against-julian-assange/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange | Apr 12 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Progressive Leaders call on US President Joe Biden to drop the charges against Julian Assange - Don't Extradite Assange | Apr 12 17:13 | |
| techrights-news | "The charges against Assange are an affront to journalists everywhere and a threat to press freedom." β https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/three-years-since-julian-assanges-arrest-from-the-ecuador-embassy-reactions-statements/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange | Apr 12 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Three years since Julian Assangeβs arrest from the Ecuador Embassy - Reactions & Statements - Don't Extradite Assange | Apr 12 17:13 | |
| techrights-news | "telecom monopolies" β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/illinois-missouri-and-new-york-lawmakers-are-helping-telecom-monopolies-block-broadband-competition/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 12 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Illinois, Missouri, and New York Lawmakers Are Helping Telecom Monopolies Block Broadband Competition | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:14 | |
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| techrights-news | FBI works for... β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/appeals-court-calls-out-fbi-for-treating-rich-people-better-than-poor-people/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 12 17:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Calls Out FBI For Treating Rich People Better Than Poor People | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:15 | |
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| techrights-news | "This agenda is anti-worker, anti-consumer" β https://robertreich.org/post/681207712764346368 | Source: Robert Reich | Apr 12 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (How the Supreme Court Could Make Your Life More...) | Apr 12 17:18 | |
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| techrights-news | Avoid starbucks 'ambiance' cult β https://truthout.org/articles/labor-officials-find-starbucks-illegally-fired-seven-union-organizers-in-memphis/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 12 17:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Labor Officials Find Starbucks Illegally Fired 7 Union Organizers in Memphis | Apr 12 17:20 | |
| techrights-news | "interminably long βtech CEOβ hearings in front of Congress" β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/despite-what-fox-news-tells-you-a-new-study-did-not-prove-that-gmail-is-biased-against-conservatives/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 12 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Despite What Fox News Tells You, A New Study Did Not βProveβ That Gmail Is Targeting Conservatives | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:22 | |
| techrights-news | "Twitter labeled his account as being βRussia state-affiliated media.β" β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/uk-politician-who-had-shows-on-russian-tv-channel-threatens-to-sue-twitter-for-noting-his-connections-to-russian-media/ | Source: Techdirt, WTH?? | Apr 12 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Politician Who Had Shows On Russian TV Channel Threatens To Sue Twitter For Noting His Connections To Russian Media | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Janine Jackson interviewed EFFβs Dave Maass about transparency and journalism for the April 22, 2022, episode of CounterSpin." β https://fair.org/home/you-have-to-laugh-at-the-ways-agencies-will-evade-giving-you-information/ | Source: FAIR | Apr 12 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | 'You Have to Laugh at the Ways Agencies Will Evade Giving You Information' - FAIR | Apr 12 17:27 | |
| techrights-news | "On April 1, a Moscow court debated the case of four editors from the student magazine Doxa on trial for charges of inciting minors to take part in protests." β https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/self-censorship-leads-to-impotence | Source: Meduza | Apr 12 17:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 12 17:29 | |
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| techrights-news | "The Government of Indonesia continues to crack down on piracy." [sic] β https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-numbers-drop-after-indonesia-blocks-over-3500-pirate-sites-220411/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Apr 12 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Piracy Numbers Drop After Indonesia Blocks Over 3,500 Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak | Apr 12 17:31 | |
| techrights-news | "In 2013, pirate streaming site Afdah began offering a comprehensive library of infringing movies to millions of users." β https://torrentfreak.com/ace-finally-seizes-pirate-streaming-domains-after-years-of-legal-action-220411/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Apr 12 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACE Finally Seizes Pirate Streaming Domains After Years of Legal Action * TorrentFreak | Apr 12 17:31 | |
| techrights-news | "A couple months back, Starlink and Elon Musk got several weeks of press adulation for shipping thousands of low orbit satellite terminals to Ukraine" β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/u-s-buries-fact-it-gave-elon-musk-3-million-to-send-satellite-dishes-to-ukraine/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 12 17:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Buries Fact It Gave Elon Musk $3 Million To Send Satellite Dishes To Ukraine | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:32 | |
| techrights-news | Crazy trademark policy β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/stone-brewing-fresh-off-trademark-win-against-keystone-sued-for-blatant-tm-infringement/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 12 17:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stone Brewing, Fresh Off Trademark Win Against Keystone, Sued For Blatant TM Infringement | Techdirt | Apr 12 17:33 | |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 still out there, getting stronger β https://truthout.org/articles/the-ba-2-variant-is-now-dominant-and-weary-as-we-are-we-cant-dismiss-it/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 12 17:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | The BA.2 Subvariant Is Now Dominant, and Weary as We Are, We Can't Dismiss It | Apr 12 17:34 | |
| zuka | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-12/microsoft-customers-decry-cloud-contracts-that-sideline-rivals | Apr 12 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Apr 12 17:42 | |
| zuka | lol | Apr 12 17:43 |
| zuka | this channel is too quite today | Apr 12 17:44 |
| zuka | is anyone in here? | Apr 12 17:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | I am | Apr 12 17:51 |
| *bnchs_ (~bnchs_@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 12 17:55 | |
| bnchs_ | I am | Apr 12 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | zuka: a lot of energy was expended this weekend | Apr 12 17:58 |
| bnchs_ | hello anyway | Apr 12 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | on stuff like codiming , maintaining and D-R | Apr 12 17:58 |
| bnchs_ | was the DB recovered? | Apr 12 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | also had problem with my connection for 4 hours last night, among DB issues... hence barely articles until tomorrow | Apr 12 17:58 |
| bnchs_ | and working now? | Apr 12 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: yes | Apr 12 17:58 |
| bnchs_ | well thats great | Apr 12 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: yes, we recovered from backup and merged in the diffs | Apr 12 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an old DB | Apr 12 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | 18 years | Apr 12 17:59 |
| Ariadne | the entire everything needs to be redone | Apr 12 17:59 |
| Ariadne | i dont have time to do it | Apr 12 18:00 |
| Ariadne | i probably won't for a while | Apr 12 18:00 |
| Ariadne | between work and other concerns, i don't have a lot of free time atm | Apr 12 18:00 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is bribery and the author of this article is Microsoft's media mole for nearly 15 years already https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-12/microsoft-customers-decry-cloud-contracts-that-sideline-rivals | Apr 12 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: understandable | Apr 12 18:00 |
| bnchs_ | techrights' technical debt | Apr 12 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | just just ours | Apr 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines started on gentoo | Apr 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | ages ago | Apr 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | we actually tidied up lots of things | Apr 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the site is in general easy to contribute to and navigate, imho | Apr 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the stuff is in two CMSs, strictly, Gallery and Drupal | Apr 12 18:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | today we split the backup regime so that it does remote at 5pm and local dump at 5am | Apr 12 18:02 |
| bnchs_ | i can see you planned out your backups | Apr 12 18:03 |
| bnchs_ | and it was all worth it | Apr 12 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, we keep many backups | Apr 12 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is fortunate as 2 days of backups were broken | Apr 12 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | we used the one from the 9th | Apr 12 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, it used to tun on gentoo, then debian, before gentoo started running "Chrome" "books" | Apr 12 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | those were the days when you could barely get your graphics card to work | Apr 12 18:04 |
| matey | /me doubts gentoo had anything to do with gentoo running on chrome books (at least initially) | Apr 12 18:04 |
| techrights-news | "digi-fascism" β https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/11/the-rise-of-digi-fascism/ | Source: Counter Punch | Apr 12 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Rise of Digi-Fascism - CounterPunch.org | Apr 12 18:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: yes, but it does no harm to them | Apr 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | gentoo's founder is proud of it | Apr 12 18:05 |
| matey | thats a bit perverse, but i can see it | Apr 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again, he joined part 25 | Apr 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | (microsoft) | Apr 12 18:05 |
| matey | oh no | Apr 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | *port 25 | Apr 12 18:05 |
| bnchs_ | "gentoo running on chromebooks" | Apr 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | a very bad derivative of it | Apr 12 18:05 |
| bnchs_ | and they used it like a marketing pro | Apr 12 18:05 |
| bnchs_ | heres a locked down chromebook that can only use the clown | Apr 12 18:06 |
| bnchs_ | but at least it runs gentoo | Apr 12 18:06 |
| matey | i imagine siemens had a similar line in their brochures | Apr 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, they even bear Microsoft to it | Apr 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft pursued patents on the idea 15 years ago | Apr 12 18:06 |
| psydruid | the worst part is that some laptop configurations are only available as chromebooks | Apr 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gulag did it | Apr 12 18:06 |
| matey | "the #1 industrial supplier of modern germany!" | Apr 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | now Windows follows | Apr 12 18:07 |
| matey | in the 1930s and 40s | Apr 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "can't afford a computer? Here, become our serf" | Apr 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: steam deck is a drm machine | Apr 12 18:07 |
| psydruid | the war on general-purpose computing | Apr 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | kde and arch but locked down to FS level | Apr 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but still, better than gpd and all that windows crap | Apr 12 18:07 |
| psydruid | I would never buy a steam deck | Apr 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | give them ma run for the money | Apr 12 18:07 |
| psydruid | but kudos to valve | Apr 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: it's not for you | Apr 12 18:08 |
| matey | /me hopes gentoo isnt behind steam dick too, or they could get a reputation for being drm happy | Apr 12 18:08 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might help you convince some people to move to gnu/linux with steam store or whatever they call it | Apr 12 18:08 |
| matey | i think freebsd is proud of netflix, sadly | Apr 12 18:08 |
| bnchs_ | schestowitz-TR: not locked down enough for tim swine-e | Apr 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used to have hotmail | Apr 12 18:08 |
| psydruid | gabe newell is being a steam dick | Apr 12 18:08 |
| bnchs_ | he needs rootkits | Apr 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | this was actually brought up this morning | Apr 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | freebsd and netflix | Apr 12 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | (in antoher channel) | Apr 12 18:09 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 12 18:09 |
| matey | netlix sponsored some of their talks | Apr 12 18:09 |
| bnchs_ | gabe newell cant even count to 3 | Apr 12 18:09 |
| psydruid | there are presentations by netflix employees at fosdem | Apr 12 18:09 |
| matey | getting on without takeover by corporate sponsors is vital to free software | Apr 12 18:09 |
| matey | you can handle maybe a minimal percentage of such things | Apr 12 18:10 |
| matey | until the microbel effect sets in | Apr 12 18:10 |
| *schestowitz-TR about to start "linux" links | Apr 12 18:10 | |
| bnchs_ | wait, freebsd and netfilx? | Apr 12 18:11 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 12 18:11 |
| matey | for years now | Apr 12 18:11 |
| bnchs_ | did they bribe freebsd to add DRM? | Apr 12 18:11 |
| matey | netflix runs on freebsd | Apr 12 18:11 |
| psydruid | freebsd's network stack is better than linux's | Apr 12 18:12 |
| matey | i think they run their drm on top of freebsd | Apr 12 18:12 |
| matey | its clown-based so you dont need a rootkit | Apr 12 18:12 |
| psydruid | and can handle higher workloads | Apr 12 18:12 |
| matey | of course you may need a rootkit on the client side, but that generally means windows or whatever roku runs on | Apr 12 18:13 |
| matey | android as well | Apr 12 18:13 |
| matey | roku os is based on "linux" it would seem | Apr 12 18:15 |
| Ariadne | psydruid: not so much anymore | Apr 12 18:15 |
| Ariadne | there is also a lot of alpine inside netflix these days | Apr 12 18:15 |
| psydruid | did linux improve or is this completely because of alpine? | Apr 12 18:19 |
| Ariadne | linux improved | Apr 12 18:19 |
| matey | "You have to understand that the Roku OS isn't an Android-based operating system. This is a closed-loop Linux-based OS which wasn't designed to accommodate web browsers, online shopping, or mobile gaming. As such, when it comes to the types of APK files you can install, you're really limited only to entertainment channels." | Apr 12 18:20 |
| matey | "closed-loop" | Apr 12 18:20 |
| matey | not android-based. has "apks" anyway? | Apr 12 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | netflix is connected to microsoft, so they dislike gpl | Apr 12 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't think freebsd there is based on merit vs linux | Apr 12 18:20 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz-TR: mmm, no | Apr 12 18:21 |
| Ariadne | freebsd has historically had superior networking performance | Apr 12 18:21 |
| Ariadne | linux has just caught up in recent years | Apr 12 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i see... | Apr 12 18:21 |
| matey | /me isnt a fan of freebsd, but is still aware of its technical merits | Apr 12 18:21 |
| techrights-news | "I survived 30 days in ChromeOS as a poweruser. I donβt use Chrome Browser and I donβt enjoy using Andorid apps." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk | Apr 12 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk | Apr 12 18:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk ) | Apr 12 18:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: that instance is still down ^^ | Apr 12 18:22 |
| bnchs_ | yeah | Apr 12 18:23 |
| matey | for example, if something does a particular thing really well, and you still dont prefer it, you can say things like: | Apr 12 18:23 |
| bnchs_ | its been down for days now | Apr 12 18:23 |
| techrights-news | Mythbusting: Linux apps SUCK and they SLOW Linux growth - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE δ· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 12 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Mythbusting: Linux apps SUCK and they SLOW Linux growth - Invidious | Apr 12 18:23 | |
| matey | "its a shame that freebsd isnt _____________ or _________, when its so good at ______________" | Apr 12 18:23 |
| matey | though if youre not a fan, you probably wont bring it up as often until someone else does | Apr 12 18:23 |
| techrights-news | Which is your preferred way to control logical flow? #programming #javascript - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o3pQbZpJ6Nc δ· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 12 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Which is your preferred way to control logical flow? #programming #javascript - Invidious | Apr 12 18:24 | |
| matey | microsoft takes things over by getting people to focus on the good and ignore the mountain of terrible faults, so this isnt a recommended approach for anything microsoft | Apr 12 18:24 |
| matey | if someone say anything good about microsoft, the best response is "yes, buts its satans festering turds" | Apr 12 18:25 |
| matey | or something along those lines | Apr 12 18:25 |
| bnchs_ | theres no reason to stay on windows anymore | Apr 12 18:25 |
| bnchs_ | unless you use abandonware | Apr 12 18:25 |
| bnchs_ | unless you HAVE to use abandonware | Apr 12 18:25 |
| matey | hyperbole is insufficient for describing the horrors of microsoft. english fails to convey it completely, you would need an entirely new language | Apr 12 18:25 |
| matey | something like a cross between esperanto and the elder scrolls | Apr 12 18:26 |
| psydruid | windows itself is abandonware | Apr 12 18:26 |
| matey | if lovecraft were alive today he could do it | Apr 12 18:26 |
| matey | it would still lose something in the translation to english | Apr 12 18:26 |
| psydruid | they just put enough lipstick on the pig to make it look as it's still alive and thriving | Apr 12 18:27 |
| psydruid | as if* | Apr 12 18:27 |
| matey | "its a pig made almost entirely of lipstick!" | Apr 12 18:27 |
| matey | to be fair, the lipstick is made partly of pork grease | Apr 12 18:27 |
| matey | "clutching forks and knives, to eat their bacon!"-- beatles (from the allow album) | Apr 12 18:28 |
| techrights-news | 'Security' as expensive gadgets that won't compensate for real issues: "Have you considered using a YubiKey? In this complete guide, you'll learn everything you need in order to get started with these awesome security keys." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pANjo6B09iI | Apr 12 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=pANjo6B09iI | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.riverside.rocks | YubiKey Complete Getting Started Guide! - Invidious | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| bnchs_ | if you really need adobe | Apr 12 18:29 |
| matey | you dont | Apr 12 18:29 |
| bnchs_ | then you can use wine | Apr 12 18:29 |
| techrights-news | "In the 25th episode of Enterprise Linux Security, Jay and Joao catch up on a few things in the news, including the results of a recent Internet Crime Report, and more!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUYg-Pi2G8 | Apr 12 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=6EUYg-Pi2G8 | Apr 12 18:29 | |
| bnchs_ | matey: i wouldnt use adobe photoshop in a bit | Apr 12 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.osi.kr | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 25 - News Roundup - Invidious | Apr 12 18:29 | |
| matey | i know | Apr 12 18:29 |
| matey | i just think its the best way to end the sentence | Apr 12 18:30 |
| matey | "if you really need adobe... you dont" | Apr 12 18:30 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of MX Linux 21.1 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oVCZtlVKZU | Apr 12 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=1oVCZtlVKZU | Apr 12 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.namazso.eu | MX Linux 21.1 overview | simple configuration, high stability, solid performance. - Invidious | Apr 12 18:30 | |
| bnchs_ | bur even then | Apr 12 18:30 |
| psydruid | adobe is offerings its applications on the web these days | Apr 12 18:30 |
| matey | lol | Apr 12 18:30 |
| bnchs_ | adobe is the ONLY reason | Apr 12 18:30 |
| bnchs_ | why people stay on windows | Apr 12 18:30 |
| bnchs_ | that and abandonware | Apr 12 18:30 |
| matey | which is weird, i thought they had it on macs too | Apr 12 18:30 |
| bnchs_ | you can use wine in the latter | Apr 12 18:30 |
| psydruid | they realize they are missing out on a whole generation of useds | Apr 12 18:30 |
| matey | watching a windows user use adobe would be like watching an amish person using a self-service kiosk at starbucks | Apr 12 18:31 |
| matey | probably in more ways than one | Apr 12 18:31 |
| matey | /me has never seen a self-service kiosk at starbucks, but has used one at mcdonalds a couple times | Apr 12 18:32 |
| matey | before the pandemic. after? fuck that. | Apr 12 18:32 |
| bnchs_ | but theres one | Apr 12 18:32 |
| bnchs_ | adobe flash seems much easier to use | Apr 12 18:33 |
| bnchs_ | than synfig | Apr 12 18:33 |
| matey | i dont doubt it | Apr 12 18:33 |
| matey | but when you use non-free software youre really just borrowing someone elses stuff | Apr 12 18:34 |
| matey | its never yours, theyll see to that | Apr 12 18:34 |
| bnchs_ | yeah | Apr 12 18:34 |
| psydruid | I heard that people are using adobe animation to create games | Apr 12 18:34 |
| matey | if youre replacing something where you buy tubes of paint and use them up, i can see how people get pulled into that | Apr 12 18:34 |
| psydruid | and comics | Apr 12 18:34 |
| psydruid | or whatever | Apr 12 18:34 |
| matey | sure, you could | Apr 12 18:34 |
| matey | i mean blender has been used the same way | Apr 12 18:34 |
| matey | not that i can figure out how | Apr 12 18:34 |
| bnchs_ | adobe flash is good for beginners because it doesnt overcomplicate shit | Apr 12 18:35 |
| mjg59_ | It's often easier for businesses to account for ongoing costs rather than up-front costs | Apr 12 18:35 |
| matey | sure, for the same reason its easier to navigate a ship than set it to run automatically from a to b | Apr 12 18:35 |
| techrights-news | "Here is a stylisation research for "Pepper the traveler in incognito mode" for episode 37. But why a stylisation research now?" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article906/ep37-production-report-style | Apr 12 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Ep37 production report: style - David Revoy | Apr 12 18:35 | |
| mjg59_ | Finance departments may well prefer spending $10 a month forever than $500 as a one-off | Apr 12 18:35 |
| psydruid | animate* | Apr 12 18:36 |
| techrights-news | Ruby Patches Important Bugs β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163631 | Apr 12 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines | Apr 12 18:37 | |
| matey | the whole idea of basing software choices on finance depts falls apart if you get rid of capitalism | Apr 12 18:37 |
| bnchs_ | maybe because you can simply use it without that much knowledge of the software | Apr 12 18:37 |
| matey | of course then it moves from finance depts to financial planning, but its not exactly the same | Apr 12 18:37 |
| mjg59_ | And, of course, if you want meaningful support you're paying per month anyway | Apr 12 18:38 |
| matey | except that if you stop paying you still have the software | Apr 12 18:39 |
| matey | and a choice where you get support from | Apr 12 18:39 |
| matey | my #1 gripe with any software is they make huge changes and then everyone waits for documentation to catch up | Apr 12 18:39 |
| matey | all those books you purchased, trash | Apr 12 18:40 |
| psydruid | that's a business too | Apr 12 18:40 |
| techrights-news | Shows and Videos: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux, and New Videos β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163632 | Apr 12 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows and Videos: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux, and New Videos | Tux Machines | Apr 12 18:40 | |
| psydruid | collateral business | Apr 12 18:40 |
| matey | but what i really dont like is the customers-are-cattle model | Apr 12 18:40 |
| matey | which permeates the software world | Apr 12 18:40 |
| techrights-news | Software Patents legitimised by Open Invention Network (OIN) https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Truist+Joins+the+Open+Invention+Network/19902267.html | Apr 12 18:41 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: streetinsider.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Truist+Joins+the+Open+Invention+Network/19902267.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Truist+Joins+the+Open+Invention+Network/19902267.html | Apr 12 18:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Truist Joins the Open Invention Network | Apr 12 18:41 | |
| matey | users, not just customers | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | if you dont want them in this place, just move their entire workflow somewhere else | Apr 12 18:41 |
| psydruid | it's because the software field is still so young | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | maybe | Apr 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | Corporations are people | Apr 12 18:41 |
| psydruid | everyone should be a developer | Apr 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | People are consumers | Apr 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | consumed by corporations | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | even if everyone could code | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | not professionally, not even well | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | just enough to have some idea how it works | Apr 12 18:41 |
| matey | literacy would be so much better | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | people would be better armed to understand whats being done to them | Apr 12 18:42 |
| psydruid | software as products doesn't seem to make much sense | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | of course microsoft already hijacks that | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | coding itself | Apr 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is infeasible in some parts of the world | Apr 12 18:42 |
| bnchs_ | matey: they dont like that | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | so that too has to be fought, but people being code literate still helps | Apr 12 18:42 |
| bnchs_ | they rather want people to consume | Apr 12 18:42 |
| mjg59_ | The problem here is that proprietary software generally doesn't allow you to get your support from someone else | Apr 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | even language literacy is low in some countries | Apr 12 18:42 |
| psydruid | but maybe that's because of how primitive this field still is | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | proprietary software generally doesn't allow you to get your support from someone else <- also true, at least in part | Apr 12 18:42 |
| matey | its more true to say that proprietary software companies have an unfair advantage in support | Apr 12 18:43 |
| matey | because they can have undocumented features or change things at will | Apr 12 18:43 |
| mjg59_ | I don't see the move to a subscription model as meaningfully worse than the previous model in that respect | Apr 12 18:43 |
| matey | its worse in other respects | Apr 12 18:43 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Also, if the issue I'm hitting is that there's a bug or missing feature, nobody else has the right to fix that for me | Apr 12 18:43 |
| matey | moving to a situation where the developers have even more control, while users have even less, is the problem | Apr 12 18:44 |
| matey | nobody else has the right to fix that for me <- freedom 3 disagrees entirely | Apr 12 18:44 |
| matey | of course nobody has a right to fix YOUR copy, even the copy you host in your repo | Apr 12 18:44 |
| matey | but they can fork | Apr 12 18:44 |
| matey | i do not want people fixing my stuff for me | Apr 12 18:44 |
| matey | but they can fork it | Apr 12 18:44 |
| techrights-news | KeepItOn: Turkmenistan rips a page from the authoritarian playbook, digitally disconnects nation - Access Now β https://www.accessnow.org/turkmenistan-digitally-disconnects-nation/ δ· Source: accessnow | Apr 12 18:45 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: accessnow.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/turkmenistan-digitally-disconnects-nation/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/turkmenistan-digitally-disconnects-nation/ | Apr 12 18:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | #KeepItOn: Turkmenistan rips a page from the authoritarian playbook, digitally disconnects nation - Access Now | Apr 12 18:45 | |
| matey | and maybe their fixed version is better, who knows | Apr 12 18:45 |
| bnchs_ | also the developers can sneak in a miner | Apr 12 18:45 |
| bnchs_ | or malware | Apr 12 18:45 |
| bnchs_ | anything | Apr 12 18:45 |
| mjg59_ | matey: If the software's proprietary then the only people who can legally modify the software to fix my problem are the vendor, so I'm tied to getting support from the vendor | Apr 12 18:45 |
| matey | you mean support in terms of fixes | Apr 12 18:45 |
| psydruid | with centralized free software we got into the situation of others fixing things for us | Apr 12 18:45 |
| matey | i meant support in terms of calling for help with the software | Apr 12 18:45 |
| psydruid | and breaking things for us too | Apr 12 18:46 |
| techrights-news | Says the company where older colleagues get labeled "dinobabies" and dismissed https://opensource.com/open-organization/22/4/open-world-inclusivity-norberg-review | Apr 12 18:46 |
| matey | i suppose both are legitimate uses of the word "support" | Apr 12 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | The path to an open world begins with inclusivity | Apr 12 18:46 | |
| mjg59_ | matey: Yes, support often involves fixes or feature development, not just telling me how to use the software | Apr 12 18:46 |
| mjg59_ | matey: That's what people are paying for in many cases | Apr 12 18:46 |
| matey | theyre suckers then, if theyre paying microsoft for support | Apr 12 18:47 |
| matey | they leave critical bugs in place for years, even after people find them | Apr 12 18:47 |
| *mib_7vg7pn has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) | Apr 12 18:47 | |
| techrights-news | Microsofters; "it appears that the most recent update to the game has rendered the FPS game unplayable on the portable gaming PC and other Linux Proton systems." https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck http://techrights.org/wiki/AARD | Apr 12 18:47 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: pcgamesn.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck | Apr 12 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Halo MCC update breaks the game on Steam Deck and Proton | PCGamesN | Apr 12 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AARD - Techrights | Apr 12 18:47 | |
| matey | maybe we can setup a fund for red hat to just stop developing software altogether | Apr 12 18:47 |
| matey | pay them to go away, like the mafia | Apr 12 18:47 |
| matey | obviously it wouldnt work, if you pay people to go away theyll be back | Apr 12 18:47 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 12 18:47 |
| techrights-news | "Between 2022-04-05 and 2022-04-12 there were 25 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 195 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 12.8 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-04-12/ | Apr 12 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-12 Edition - Boiling Steam | Apr 12 18:48 | |
| psydruid | so microsoft is breaking games on steam deck now | Apr 12 18:48 |
| matey | theyre ever so helpful | Apr 12 18:48 |
| matey | move fast and break competitors things | Apr 12 18:48 |
| psydruid | exactly what DaemonFC told us would happen | Apr 12 18:48 |
| matey | he knows microsoft | Apr 12 18:48 |
| bnchs_ | oh | Apr 12 18:48 |
| bnchs_ | it appears like | Apr 12 18:48 |
| bnchs_ | my UPDATE has broken your support | Apr 12 18:49 |
| bnchs_ | definitely an accident | Apr 12 18:49 |
| bnchs_ | i swear | Apr 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC mas "Microsoft MVP" at one point | Apr 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | ages ago | Apr 12 18:49 |
| matey | yes but | Apr 12 18:49 |
| matey | im still disappointed he wasnt an exec | Apr 12 18:49 |
| matey | i seriously pictured him going in with a briefcase and a suit and tie | Apr 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | not corrupt enough | Apr 12 18:49 |
| matey | then defecting | Apr 12 18:50 |
| matey | i mean its to his credit obviously that he never did that | Apr 12 18:50 |
| psydruid | I abandoned Microsoft before I could ever become a VIP | Apr 12 18:50 |
| matey | but i had this whole image of him | Apr 12 18:50 |
| matey | and now thats dashed to pieces | Apr 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz | some recently did just that http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323 | Apr 12 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Apr 12 18:50 | |
| matey | sure, microsoft has real defectors | Apr 12 18:50 |
| bnchs_ | what about former windows NT devs | Apr 12 18:50 |
| matey | but i thought there was one here | Apr 12 18:50 |
| matey | like mjg defected from google (but im sure we dont believe that) | Apr 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | defective from google | Apr 12 18:51 |
| matey | its a well known fact that google pays people to be undercover in techrights irc for years at a time | Apr 12 18:51 |
| bnchs_ | or gulag pays trolls | Apr 12 18:51 |
| bnchs_ | to raid techrights irc | Apr 12 18:51 |
| bnchs_ | and derail them with infighting | Apr 12 18:51 |
| matey | tnot many people know this but GAFAM is actually a global syndicate, like SPECTRE | Apr 12 18:52 |
| matey | they have an underground base in a volcano and everything | Apr 12 18:52 |
| techrights-news | Games: Most Steam and Handhelds β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163633 | Apr 12 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Most Steam and Handhelds | Tux Machines | Apr 12 18:52 | |
| psydruid | bnchs_, Dave Cutler was on The Verge of cutting himself with the cutlery stored in his cupboard | Apr 12 18:52 |
| matey | ask mjg, he has a hairless cat which he named univac | Apr 12 18:53 |
| bnchs_ | linux has this rootkit backdoor that linus added | Apr 12 18:53 |
| bnchs_ | but you cant see it in the source code because | Apr 12 18:53 |
| bnchs_ | well because | Apr 12 18:53 |
| matey | also im actually from forbes. well, i cant confirm or deny that. | Apr 12 18:54 |
| techrights-news | WTF are you doing, ICBM Red Hat? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-deploy-run-and-monitor-microsoft-sql-server-rhel | Apr 12 18:54 |
| psydruid | it's metacode in the metaverse | Apr 12 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to deploy, run and monitor Microsoft SQL server on RHEL | Apr 12 18:54 | |
| matey | the matrixverse | Apr 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | metaBIGdata | Apr 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just "big data" | Apr 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and just 'metadata" | Apr 12 18:55 |
| matey | google never metadata it didnt like | Apr 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "moving along, nothing too sniff here | Apr 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Zubin Mehta Data | Apr 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | he is till alive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubin_Mehta | Apr 12 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zubin Mehta - Wikipedia | Apr 12 18:56 | |
| matey | zooby zooby zooby, zooby zooby zooby, zoo zoo | Apr 12 18:57 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HXbq49vLRC8 | Apr 12 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Zooby Zooby" Lyrical Video | Dance Dance | Alisha Chinoy | T-Series - Invidious | Apr 12 18:58 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat uses proprietary software here https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/ http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/ | Apr 12 18:58 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: tfir.io | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/ | Apr 12 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | Enterprise Open Source Adoption Is Growing: Red Hat Report - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya | Apr 12 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hatβs βState of Enterprise Open Sourceβ Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights | Apr 12 18:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββββ β ββββ β ββββββ ββββ βββ β βββββββ avg(k/sec) 48.40 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 58.50β swarm size (avg): 344.63 β² | Apr 12 18:59 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat loves "Open Source" so much that sometimes it even uses it itself. Sometimes... | Apr 12 18:59 |
| matey | strangers in the night, exchanging data | Apr 12 19:00 |
| bnchs_ | i didnt even know | Apr 12 19:01 |
| bnchs_ | a PDF can leak information about whos using it | Apr 12 19:01 |
| bnchs_ | and what software | Apr 12 19:01 |
| matey | oh yeah | Apr 12 19:01 |
| bnchs_ | maybe the software does it itself | Apr 12 19:01 |
| matey | it can fucking go online too | Apr 12 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: a lot more | Apr 12 19:01 |
| bnchs_ | injects metadata without knowing | Apr 12 19:01 |
| matey | you have three choices to keep a pdf from leaking data | Apr 12 19:02 |
| matey | 1. open it without an internet connection | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: use mat2 | Apr 12 19:02 |
| matey | 2. use a jail (even gnu/linux has one) to isolate it from the network | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's in the repo | Apr 12 19:02 |
| matey | 3. open it with a proxy, so at least the leak isnt tied to your ip | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~$ mat2 -elp | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | usage: mat2 [-h] [-v] [-l] [--check-dependencies] [-V] | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | [--unknown-members policy] [-s | -L] | Apr 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | [files [files ...]] | Apr 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | mat2: error: unrecognized arguments: -elp | Apr 12 19:03 |
| matey | you can also convert the pdf but i dont like this option as much | Apr 12 19:03 |
| bnchs_ | matey: its not the pdf's fault | Apr 12 19:03 |
| matey | as most of the converters suck | Apr 12 19:03 |
| bnchs_ | i would say | Apr 12 19:03 |
| bnchs_ | its the writer of the PDF's fault | Apr 12 19:03 |
| matey | its not the pdf's fault <- i mean, if someone is brainwashed and reprogrammed to kill you its not their fault | Apr 12 19:03 |
| matey | but you still shouldnt have them in for tea | Apr 12 19:03 |
| bnchs_ | writers tend to inject very VERY detailed metadata | Apr 12 19:03 |
| bnchs_ | into PDF | Apr 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs_: your mind will blow over prints arcoding printouts in pale yellow | Apr 12 19:04 |
| bnchs_ | without you knowing | Apr 12 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the receiver can figure out where the paper came from | Apr 12 19:04 |
| bnchs_ | yes | Apr 12 19:04 |
| bnchs_ | thats the printer's fault | Apr 12 19:04 |
| bnchs_ | not the paper | Apr 12 19:04 |
| matey | solution: dont colour print | Apr 12 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | *barcoding | Apr 12 19:04 |
| matey | it will be interesting when people build their own high quality printers | Apr 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | reality winner did not know | Apr 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | smuggled papers in his pantyhose literally | Apr 12 19:05 |
| matey | maybe the secret service will push towards cryptocurrency then | Apr 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | then sent it to dirty pierre omidyar | Apr 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they burned many sources | Apr 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they're still going | Apr 12 19:05 |
| matey | or maybe all currency will have a tiny chip in it by then | Apr 12 19:05 |
| bnchs_ | even if you print in color | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | remember that printers sperg out | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | about low color ink | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | even if you print in B&W | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | they secretly use the yellow ink | Apr 12 19:06 |
| matey | no i mean dont use a colour printer | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | in B&W | Apr 12 19:06 |
| matey | not print in b&w on a colour printer | Apr 12 19:06 |
| bnchs_ | matey: well idk about that | Apr 12 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | new media campaign: onlyh pedohphiles print in b and w | Apr 12 19:07 |
| matey | at some point people will figure out that half the world isnt pedos | Apr 12 19:07 |
| matey | they exist, but they arent like 35% of the population | Apr 12 19:08 |
| matey | so any time a movement is big enough, and they try to say "oh, theyre all perverts" | Apr 12 19:08 |
| matey | well, obviously not | Apr 12 19:08 |
| bnchs_ | only pedos use IRC | Apr 12 19:09 |
| matey | and duckduckgo | Apr 12 19:09 |
| matey | and linux | Apr 12 19:09 |
| matey | its becoming as silly as no true scotsman | Apr 12 19:09 |
| matey | "only a pedo would put sugar in his tea" | Apr 12 19:09 |
| matey | you wouldnt download a child | Apr 12 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft peter came here | Apr 12 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | to troll us | Apr 12 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "drpizza" | Apr 12 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | later he was arrested for raping kids | Apr 12 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | while acting as microsoft's mole at arse technically pedo | Apr 12 19:13 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fTaKDnSIb4c | Apr 12 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The IT Crowd: Peter File - Invidious | Apr 12 19:13 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163634 | Apr 12 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:13 | |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> microsoft peter came here <- i remember that story | Apr 12 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "peter, wtf are you doing here?" | Apr 12 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we're all over 18" | Apr 12 19:14 |
| matey | lol | Apr 12 19:14 |
| *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 12 19:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | he was not so Bright | Apr 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | infantile mind | Apr 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sucked up to Microsoft | Apr 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used him | Apr 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course the media never mentioned his relationship with Microsoft | Apr 12 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | just "reporter" | Apr 12 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, only sam varghese mentioned the Microsoft connection | Apr 12 19:16 |
| matey | whats varghese up to these days | Apr 12 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much, itwire stagnates | Apr 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | far fewer stories | Apr 12 19:19 |
| matey | tech press has nearly collapsed | Apr 12 19:19 |
| matey | something about massaging press releases and doing fuck-all else doesnt help a lot | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | " The media were happy to completely ignore the reality of declining real wages throughout the Reagan era " | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/12/the-reagan-and-biden-booms/ | Apr 12 19:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Reagan and Biden Booms - CounterPunch.org | Apr 12 19:20 | |
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| matey | seems unsustainable | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "The hedge fund Alden Global Capital is notorious for plundering newspapers, relentlessly creating βnews desertsβ and βghost papers.β" β https://fair.org/home/documenting-the-struggle-against-a-hedge-fund-stripping-journalism-for-parts/ | Apr 12 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Documenting the Struggle Against a Hedge Fund Stripping Journalism for Parts - FAIR | Apr 12 19:20 | |
| matey | one dept writes press releases, the other does marketing | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 12 19:20 |
| matey | the tech press slaps them together and adds some animation, video snippets | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I get about 10 spam a day from PR agencies | Apr 12 19:20 |
| matey | GRAPHICS! | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I delete immediately | Apr 12 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they persist I shout at them | Apr 12 19:21 |
| matey | "direct marketing" | Apr 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i always look at email addres first | Apr 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | many say "comm" or "pr" | Apr 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you know instant delete | Apr 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they target shits like spamnil | Apr 12 19:21 |
| bnchs_ | only pedos go on techrights IRC | Apr 12 19:21 |
| bnchs_ | like drpizza | Apr 12 19:22 |
| matey | they should really shut it down | Apr 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Years ago FOSS Force spoke about the corruption of Linux Foundation. Now, after getting money from Linux Foundation, it does puff pieces for the corrupt Linux Foundation. SJVN effect. | Apr 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | https://fossforce.com/2022/04/protecting-open-source-security-as-cold-war-turns-hot/ | Apr 12 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | OpenSSF Protects Open Source Security as Cold War Turns Hot- FOSS Force | Apr 12 19:22 | |
| matey | the only legit network is libera chat | Apr 12 19:22 |
| bnchs_ | i bet they still hire trolls | Apr 12 19:22 |
| bnchs_ | to go on techrights IRC | Apr 12 19:22 |
| matey | even if some of the other networks are sort of ok sometimes | Apr 12 19:23 |
| matey | just to be safe its better to stick to just libera chat | Apr 12 19:23 |
| matey | its what the fsf uses | Apr 12 19:23 |
| matey | if anyone invites you to a self-hosted irc | Apr 12 19:24 |
| matey | just say no, maybe report them | Apr 12 19:24 |
| MinceR | illibera isn't safe, especially not for the fsf | Apr 12 19:24 |
| matey | windows is perfectly safe, libera chat runs on windows, qed | Apr 12 19:24 |
| MinceR | or at least it wouldn't be safe for them, if they still did something | Apr 12 19:24 |
| bnchs_ | ok what about DAFnet | Apr 12 19:25 |
| matey | i feel a lot safer knowing alexa is listening | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | last time i went there | Apr 12 19:25 |
| matey | if someone gets killed, alexa will say "hold on, let me find that for you" | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | i saw tons of IRC color codes | Apr 12 19:25 |
| MinceR | don't you mean DALnet? | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | DALnet | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | yes | Apr 12 19:25 |
| MinceR | probably good | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | tons of IRC color codes | Apr 12 19:25 |
| MinceR | the last time i was there it was under heavy attack by script kiddies | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | i mean i was used to seeing no colors | Apr 12 19:25 |
| bnchs_ | then i saw dalnet | Apr 12 19:25 |
| MinceR | colors aren't network-specific | Apr 12 19:26 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Apr 12 19:26 | |
| bnchs_ | yes | Apr 12 19:26 |
| bnchs_ | i know | Apr 12 19:26 |
| bnchs_ | but techrights irc and liberachat had no color | Apr 12 19:27 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/beaker.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-beaker#comic ) | Apr 12 19:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Apr 12 19:27 | |
| bnchs_ | they rarely used colors | Apr 12 19:27 |
| MinceR | think again! | Apr 12 19:27 |
| bnchs_ | AHH | Apr 12 19:27 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 12 19:27 |
| techrights-news | Links 12/04/2022: Ruby Patched and Linux 4.9.310 Released | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/12/linux-4-9-310/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/12/linux-4-9-310/ | Apr 12 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/04/2022: Ruby Patched and Linux 4.9.310 Released | Techrights | Apr 12 19:36 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163635 | Apr 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:38 | |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Gadgets: Coverage of /e/OS and Arduino β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163636 | Apr 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Gadgets: Coverage of /e/OS and Arduino | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:38 | |
| techrights-news | Openwashed Corporatism (IBM and SUSE) β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163637 | Apr 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashed Corporatism (IBM and SUSE) | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:38 | |
| techrights-news | PeaZip 8.6 Released with More Customizable UI Layout, Improved Extraction and Archiving β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163638 | Apr 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PeaZip 8.6 Released with More Customizable UI Layout, Improved Extraction and Archiving | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:38 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163639 | Apr 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 12 19:38 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Apr 12 19:40 |
| schestowitz | lagrane would not start | Apr 12 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "SDL init failed: Could not connect to PulseAudio" | Apr 12 19:41 |
| bnchs_ | pulseaudio? | Apr 12 19:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | when you make a client for geminin in SDL... | Apr 12 19:41 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 12 19:41 | |
| bnchs_ | ah shit he came on bye | Apr 12 19:41 |
| *bnchs_ has quit (Quit: Quit) | Apr 12 19:41 | |
| MinceR | properly written SDL applications can work without poetteringaudio | Apr 12 19:41 |
| bnchs | schestowitz, relying on pulseaudio is too much of a lockin | Apr 12 19:42 |
| bnchs | for SDL programs | Apr 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio --check | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio -k | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio -D | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~$ | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | lol | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | welcome 2022 | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | and NOW I can browser GEMINI | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | with no sounds in it | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | *browse | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | an application that does not even use sound | Apr 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | would not start without PA | Apr 12 19:45 |
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| MinceR | turns out lagrange isn't only ugly and inflexible, but it's also poorly written | Apr 12 19:45 |
| bnchs_ | thanks firefox | Apr 12 19:45 |
| bnchs_ | consumed all my RAM in less than a second | Apr 12 19:45 |
| *bnchs has quit (connection closed) | Apr 12 19:45 | |
| bnchs_ | and completely froze my kernel | Apr 12 19:45 |
| bnchs_ | fucking asshole | Apr 12 19:45 |
| MinceR | welcome to the "modern" web | Apr 12 19:46 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 12 19:46 | |
| bnchs_ | it even consumed the swap | Apr 12 19:46 |
| bnchs_ | which made my HDD usage go high up | Apr 12 19:46 |
| techrights-news | Binary Coded Decimal gemini://hoseki.iensu.me/posts/binary-coded-decimal.gmi | Apr 12 19:47 |
| bnchs | back | Apr 12 19:47 |
| techrights-news | "So if you've read the last couple of entries on here you won't really be surprised to know that I'm quitting one of my jobs, the non-profit one that's been the source of a lot of my misery lately." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-11-quitting.gmi | Apr 12 19:47 |
| bnchs_ | browsers dont have memory limit per page | Apr 12 19:48 |
| techrights-news | "Yes, this is another post about my current project, mastersearch. But as progress was pretty good in the last two days, I thought I would just post a update." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/11/search-everything-with-dmenu/ | Apr 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D200.jpg | Apr 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D558.jpg | Apr 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | hmmm... our gemini proxy is offline | Apr 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixing... | Apr 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | first this this happens, since it started 2 months ago | Apr 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixed | Apr 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | need sleep now, back in a few, it's a long nap | Apr 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm on shift tonight :/ | Apr 12 19:56 |
| bnchs | one thing is | Apr 12 19:57 |
| bnchs | your gemini proxy doesn't recognize code tags | Apr 12 19:58 |
| bnchs | like ``` | Apr 12 19:58 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Im-Jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation,-making-it-that-much-more-Jewy.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-im-jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation-making-it-that-much-more-jewy#comic ) | Apr 12 19:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Apr 12 19:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I've relayed your request | Apr 12 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can be implemented | Apr 12 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | in perl | Apr 12 19:59 |
| techrights-news | LXQt 1.1.0 Promises Major Visual Uplift and Improvements β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163640 | Apr 12 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXQt 1.1.0 Promises Major Visual Uplift and Improvements | Tux Machines | Apr 12 20:00 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu MATE 22.04 β New Features and Release Details β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163641 | Apr 12 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 22.04 β New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines | Apr 12 20:00 | |
| AdmFubar | https://b3ta.com/challenge/meta/ | Apr 12 20:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-b3ta.com challenge: meta | Apr 12 20:10 | |
| bnchs | AdmFubar, lol | Apr 12 20:11 |
| bnchs | also nice lightweight website | Apr 12 20:12 |
| zuka | https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpgΒ Contra Strike might have copyright on META | Apr 12 20:17 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: b3ta.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpgΒ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpgΒ | Apr 12 20:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpgΒ ) | Apr 12 20:17 | |
| zuka | or maybe ETA does | Apr 12 20:18 |
| zuka | is that site facebook with out java script? | Apr 12 20:19 |
| bnchs | it's like 4chan | Apr 12 20:28 |
| bnchs | maybe | Apr 12 20:28 |
| bnchs | idk | Apr 12 20:28 |
| zuka | its like something with out JS | Apr 12 20:30 |
| zuka | or something like that | Apr 12 20:30 |
| zuka | should i reboot after upfates? | Apr 12 20:31 |
| zuka | updates | Apr 12 20:31 |
| zuka | libx11 got update so i should right? | Apr 12 20:32 |
| zuka | why is it that cromium asks me for some password at every boot and insists onb it 3 times | Apr 12 20:33 |
| zuka | thats just annoying | Apr 12 20:34 |
| psydruid | gulag is nosy | Apr 12 20:34 |
| psydruid | labor liberates | Apr 12 20:34 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/O0AK7RQ.jpeg | Apr 12 20:36 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: imgur.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/O0AK7RQ.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/O0AK7RQ.jpeg | Apr 12 20:36 | |
| zuka | i think its asking about some gnome feature called keyring | Apr 12 20:36 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.databreaches.net/singapore-to-license-pentesters-and-managed-infosec-operators/ | Apr 12 20:37 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: databreaches.net | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/singapore-to-license-pentesters-and-managed-infosec-operators/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.databreaches.net/singapore-to-license-pentesters-and-managed-infosec-operators/ | Apr 12 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Singapore to license pentesters and managed infosec operators | Apr 12 20:37 | |
| zuka | i never entered anything f* that s* | Apr 12 20:37 |
| zuka | can it be disabled? | Apr 12 20:38 |
| zuka | must be some optin on about config | Apr 12 20:40 |
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| DaemonFC | Okay, full synthetic 0w30 Delos oil change and Delco filter, new cabin air filter, new engine air filter, and a new Duracell Platinum AGM car battery and the terminals are cleaned and protected. | Apr 12 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Tomorrow, transmission fluid change and coolant flush. | Apr 12 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | After I switched batteries, the TPMS light didn't come back. | Apr 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think the computer just went weird or something. | Apr 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | The car's computer was telling me that the battery voltage was getting weird and I popped the hood and looked and it's a Die Hard battery from Sears! | Apr 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Which is bankrupt and they don't even have auto centers anymore! | Apr 12 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | These AGM batteries usually last a very long time. 7-8 years. | Apr 12 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes more. | Apr 12 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.eu/ngeurope_eng/status/1513881380622671872 | Apr 12 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@ngeurope_eng): "Here are some of Putinβs quotes from todayβs joint press conference with Belarusian leader Lukashenko: βWhatβs happening in Ukraine is a tragedy, without a doubt, but Russia had no other choice. Ukraine, Belarus and Russia are three united nations.β" | nitter | Apr 12 20:46 | |
| DaemonFC | They don't work the alternator as hard either, so they'll last longer. | Apr 12 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | An alternator that works harder is putting out more heat. Really shortens the life. | Apr 12 20:48 |
| zuka | elon musk should had bought nitter instead of twitter because its got no w in it | Apr 12 20:49 |
| MinceR | hopefully nitter is not for sale | Apr 12 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's too free for that. | Apr 12 20:51 |
| psydruid | Prison as a Service | Apr 12 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | "elon musk should had bought nitter instead of twitter because its got no w in it" <- I'm trying really hard to understand this reference. | Apr 12 20:52 |
| zuka | elon musk was twirring that twitter should drop the w | Apr 12 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | Oh. Hilarious. | Apr 12 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | I guess he does have things in common with Rogozin. | Apr 12 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | Or with activelow :) | Apr 12 20:54 |
| bnchs | nitter? | Apr 12 20:56 |
| zuka | i guess knitter was aready taken | Apr 12 20:57 |
| bnchs | elon musk should kill himself | Apr 12 20:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββ ββββ ββββ β βββ βββββββββββ ββββ ββββββββ avg(k/sec) 33.23 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 79.60β swarm size (avg): 379.63 β² | Apr 12 20:59 |
| zuka | does IPFS records every transaction just like bitcoin does? | Apr 12 21:00 |
| zuka | thats the best copyright enforcement thing ever | Apr 12 21:01 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html | Apr 12 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenSSH: Release Notes | Apr 12 21:04 | |
| AdmFubar | twitter just reminds me of monty python sketches | Apr 12 21:05 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-president-admits-antitrust-complaints-against-company-highlight-valid-concerns | Apr 12 21:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft President admits antitrust complaints against company highlight 'valid concerns' | Windows Central | Apr 12 21:11 | |
| AdmFubar | https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/this-biden-proposal-could-make-the-us-a-digital-dictatorship/ | Apr 12 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | This Biden Proposal Could Make the US a βDigital Dictatorshipβ | Apr 12 21:16 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/wearable-solutions-and-the-internet-of-incarceration/ | Apr 12 21:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | Wearable "Solutions" and the Internet of Incarceration | Apr 12 21:19 | |
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| AdmFubar | Mr. Hyde anyone? https://www.cynerio.com/jekyllbot-5-command-center | Apr 12 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cynerio.com | JekyllBot:5 Command Center | Apr 12 21:45 | |
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| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/diagnosis.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-diagnosis#comic ) | Apr 12 22:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Apr 12 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fedora-36-beta-the-new-adwaita-gtk4-work-breaks-the-world-causes-confusion-but-the-performance-is-terrific/ | Apr 12 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. β BaronHK's Rants | Apr 12 22:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Chevy dealer had their mechanic go over the car with their usual "inspect everything and recommend all services possible" routine. | Apr 12 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | And when they were done with the Buick the guy said "I have never seen a 14 year old car that looked this good. The only thing that I could recommend is replacing the hood struts.". | Apr 12 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "I already ordered some from China. | Apr 12 22:39 |
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| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hCuMWrfXG4E | Apr 12 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Billy Joel - Uptown Girl (Official Video) - Invidious | Apr 12 22:47 | |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/250244 | Apr 12 22:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | German authorities to nationalize energy companies in a crisis and wean the country off Russian gas in two years | Apr 12 22:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Glad I didn't get a lemon for that sack full of $100s. | Apr 12 22:50 |
| matey | or a sack of 100 lemons | Apr 12 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | "I don't know if these are still worth anything, man. I mean they are Biden dollars.". | Apr 12 22:50 |
| bnchs | when life gives you lemons | Apr 12 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | GET MAD! | Apr 12 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! | Apr 12 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | MAKE LIFE RUE THE DAY IT THOUGHT IT COULD GIVE CAVE JOHNSON CANCER! | Apr 12 22:51 |
| bnchs | yeah i knew that was a portal reference | Apr 12 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | BURN LIFE'S HOUSE DOWN WITH THE LEMONS! | Apr 12 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Make Earl of Lemongrab? | Apr 12 22:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M GOING TO GET MY ENGINEERS TO MAKE COMBUSTIBLE LEMONS! | Apr 12 22:52 |
| bnchs | no | Apr 12 22:52 |
| bnchs | you're all not thinking well | Apr 12 22:52 |
| bnchs | make a lemonparty | Apr 12 22:52 |
| bnchs | ;) | Apr 12 22:52 |
| matey | eww | Apr 12 22:52 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ZzSBka1.jpeg | Apr 12 22:52 |
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| XRevan86 | https://yewtu.be/uVFU6dss3sE | Apr 12 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | POV: The Lock Picking Lawyer is Outside your Bunker - Invidious | Apr 12 22:56 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββ β βββββ βββββ β β ββββ ββ ββββ ββββββ ββ avg(k/sec) 34.38 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 48.83β swarm size (avg): 334.01 β² | Apr 12 22:59 |
| MinceR | Want to know how I got these cars? >> https://i.imgur.com/UBz5m9k.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/n1S6HbG ) | Apr 12 23:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Want to know how I got these cars? - Album on Imgur | Apr 12 23:00 | |
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| techrights-news | written on Pinebook Pro gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/phlog/2022-03-25-mo.txt | Apr 12 23:16 |
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| techrights-news | New-to-me Mandolin gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-04-12-new_mandolin.gmi | Apr 12 23:17 |
| techrights-news | A sort of 'photojournalism' in Gemini gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/korruptor/blog/2022-04-12-OLL22.gmi | Apr 12 23:18 |
| techrights-news | "In this blog, we will be introducing the concept of High-performance computing (HPC) and HPC clusters. We will also introduce a few categories of practical workloads important in the HPC space." https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-high-performance-computing-hpc-part-1 | Apr 12 23:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is High-performance computing (HPC)? [part 1] | Ubuntu | Apr 12 23:20 | |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: pg_dbms_job v1.2.0 released β https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_dbms_job-v120-released-2435/ δ· Source: postgresql | Apr 12 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pg_dbms_job v1.2.0 released | Apr 12 23:22 | |
| techrights-news | On "privacy initiatives" by spying companies... like Mozilla https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/12/competition-should-not-be-weaponized-to-hobble-privacy-protections-on-the-open-web/ | Apr 12 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Competition should not be weaponized to hobble privacy protections on the open web - Open Policy & Advocacy | Apr 12 23:23 | |
| techrights-news | Michael now shows just two from the AMD 'crate' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-aocc-milanx&num=1 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ | Apr 12 23:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD AOCC Performance On EPYC 7773X Milan-X Against GCC, Clang Compilers Review - Phoronix | Apr 12 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights | Apr 12 23:24 | |
| techrights-news | "April is a transition month, with the season starting to change from winter to spring, and a new quarter is beginning to unfold. A lot to plan, but it also means a lot of things to be excited about. With that spirit, letβs see what the Mozilla Support community has been up to these days..." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/04/11/whats-up-with-sumo-april-2022/ | Apr 12 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Whatβs up with SUMO β April 2022 β The Mozilla Support Blog | Apr 12 23:25 | |
| techrights-news | IBM openwashing surveillance, or spying "lite", with Microsoft proprietary GitHub (tied to NSA) https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/12/observability-2022-why-it-matters-and-how-opentelemetry-can-help | Apr 12 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Observability in 2022: Why it matters and how OpenTelemetry can help | Red Hat Developer | Apr 12 23:27 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM Red Hat uses GNU logo while attacking the founder of GNU, defaming him to hijack his work/projects https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/12/state-static-analysis-gcc-12-compiler | Apr 12 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | The state of static analysis in the GCC 12 compiler | Red Hat Developer | Apr 12 23:29 | |
| techrights-news | FAQ: The EUβs plan to regulate political ads - Access Now β https://www.accessnow.org/eu-regulation-political-ads/ δ· Source: accessnow | Apr 12 23:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | FAQ: The EUβs plan to regulate political ads - Access Now | Apr 12 23:29 | |
| techrights-news | IFF writes to the Chief Secretary of Rajasthan urging greater scrutiny of internet shutdown orders. KeepItOn β https://internetfreedom.in/iff-writes-to-the-chief-secretary-of-rajasthan-urging-greater-scrutiny-of-internet-shutdown-orders-keepiton/ δ· Source: internetfreedom | Apr 12 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | IFF writes to the Chief Secretary of Rajasthan urging greater scrutiny of internet shutdown orders. #KeepItOn | Apr 12 23:30 | |
| techrights-news | βThe Great Resignationβ myth/narrative is being promoted by IBM, which lays off its own workforce https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-hiring-4-tips-retain-attract-top-it-talent | Apr 12 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT hiring: 4 tips to retain and attract top IT talent right now | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 12 23:31 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM pushing buzzwords at the expense of actual substance or science https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/agile-hybrid-work-benefits | Apr 12 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Agile: 3 ways your organization can benefit during hybrid work | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 12 23:32 | |
| techrights-news | "This year the syslog-ng project will participate in the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) as a mentor organization again. If you are a university student or otherwise eligible to participate in the GSoC program, you can choose to develop a new feature for syslog-ng." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-in-gsoc-2022 | Apr 12 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Syslog-ng in GSoC 2022 - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community | Apr 12 23:33 | |
| matey | /me sees tuxmachines is up | Apr 12 23:34 |
| techrights-news | "Some criticisms though; the GUI has limited adjustments, mostly just colours. You copy an existing theme, then modify colours -- and you can't import a theme. Another criticism is that the generated theme is large, mostly because, for gtk 3.20+, it has a file 'gtk.gresource' that is about 5MB." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/oomox-gtk-theme-designer.html | Apr 12 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Oomox GTK theme designer | Apr 12 23:34 | |
| techrights-news | "In this project, weβre going to be making a set of wirelessly controlled animatronic eyes. Iβve been wanting to do this project for a while, so when Quantum Integration launched their new Motor & Servo Driver board, this project immediately came to mind." https://www.the-diy-life.com/3d-printed-wireless-joystick-controlled-animatronic-eyes/ | Apr 12 23:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-diy-life.com | 3D Printed Wireless Joystick Controlled Animatronic Eyes - The DIY Life | Apr 12 23:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: yes, took a lot of effort | Apr 12 23:36 |
| techrights-news | Use of isset() Function in PHP β https://linuxhint.com/isset-function-php/ δ· Source: LinuxHint | PHP | FreeSW π§ | Apr 12 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Use of isset() Function in PHP | Apr 12 23:36 | |
| matey | upgrades soon now | Apr 12 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: rms talk today | Apr 12 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | weds | Apr 12 23:38 |
| techrights-news | "How do different free and open source software projects do mentorship, and how can we all learn from each other? Daniel Garcia Moreno (EndlessOS Foundation and GNOME), Emily Gonyer (openSUSE), Ilmari Lauhakangas (The Document Foundation), and Marie Nordin (Fedora) discuss this in a panel moderated by Ben Cotton" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/12/panel-discussion-on-mentorship-fedora-mentor-summit-2022-including-lib | Apr 12 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Panel Discussion on Mentorship (Fedora Mentor Summit 2022) β including LibreOffice - The Document Foundation Blog | Apr 12 23:38 | |
| matey | still 10 where you are, iicc | Apr 12 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 23:40 | Apr 12 23:38 |
| matey | but yes ive been counting down | Apr 12 23:38 |
| matey | oh youre on dst now | Apr 12 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Even Linux FoundationForce mentioned this talk | Apr 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mentioned by a signer of the letter | Apr 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and former OSI | Apr 12 23:39 |
| matey | that sounds sinister | Apr 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | who sold to the org that was once criticised... because of money | Apr 12 23:39 |
| matey | maybe he really is a hostage | Apr 12 23:39 |
| matey | maybe he will announce a partnership with github | Apr 12 23:40 |
| matey | yes im being cynical | Apr 12 23:40 |
| matey | except the sinister part | Apr 12 23:40 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032433 | Apr 12 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/jtazo4nb9to81.jpg created on 2022-03-24 07:17:31.043950 | Apr 12 23:40 | |
| techrights-news | IBM zSystems: Add support for z16 as CPU name. β https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=82a4c5c704433249aa2adc89ef58b6b70e50c930 δ· Source: gcc | ibm | Apr 12 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org Git - gcc.git/commitdiff | Apr 12 23:40 | |
| matey | i dont think the fsf is going to turn away from "ruinous compromise" but i do think they will make greater efforts at obfuscation | Apr 12 23:41 |
| matey | cloaking, gaslighting, "marketing" | Apr 12 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I found a Buick LaCrosse one model year newer at Carvana with about the same mileage. | Apr 12 23:42 |
| matey | im not the only cynic in this bunch. i dont really think im cynical either | Apr 12 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | They wanted an additional $3,000 for it. | Apr 12 23:42 |
| techrights-news | How come the Microsoft boosters at BleepingComputer never use similar wording like 1.5 billion Windows users impacted...? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-hp-teradici-pcoip-flaws-impact-15-million-endpoints/ | Apr 12 23:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Critical HP Teradici PCoIP flaws impact 15 million endpoints | Apr 12 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | Carvana is a bubble. | Apr 12 23:42 |
| matey | but the funnier lines about it are | Apr 12 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Those idiots down in Skokie are going to be so sorry when they let Carvana build a "glass vending machine" there and only to watch it go bankrupt. | Apr 12 23:43 |
| matey | it vends glass? | Apr 12 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | No, it's like, a car vending machine that you can see into. | Apr 12 23:43 |
| matey | /me presses b5 and feeds in 16,000 ones | Apr 12 23:43 |
| MinceR | it's going to take a while to put in all those coins | Apr 12 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | You go up to a kiosk and tell it which one you want and it sets you up to pay for it or finance it with them, or you punch in a code for one you paid for and it pops out and hands you the keys. | Apr 12 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's dumb. | Apr 12 23:44 |
| matey | 15,997, 15,998... | Apr 12 23:44 |
| techrights-news | "Open-source Audacity can record and edit audio files on more tracks than you can imagine. It then outputs exactly what you need. It is perfect for noobs and pros alike, on any desktop OS." https://www.pcmag.com/picks/best-free-software | Apr 12 23:44 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: pcmag.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/picks/best-free-software https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pcmag.com/picks/best-free-software | Apr 12 23:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Free Software of 2022 | PCMag | Apr 12 23:44 | |
| MinceR | and then the car gets damaged when it gets pushed out by the helix and falls to the opening | Apr 12 23:44 |
| matey | /me tries to rock the machine | Apr 12 23:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 12 23:44 |
| matey | fuckers heavy as fuck | Apr 12 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's a really stupid way to buy a car because you're going to pay about 25-30% more on the car, plus you may decide to finance it and they want you to go 7 years at 14%. | Apr 12 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 12 23:44 |
| techrights-news | "Iβm happy to announce that Qt 6.3 has been released today. As always, the release is packed with many new features as well as a large amount of bug fixes." Still proprietary software though. No-go area? https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.3-released | Apr 12 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt 6.3 released | Apr 12 23:45 | |
| matey | does it include a coke at least? preferably a cold one | Apr 12 23:45 |
| matey | for that price they could throw in some pretzels | Apr 12 23:45 |
| matey | and a snickers | Apr 12 23:45 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft tumbles as UBS suggests Office 365 could see 'gentle deceleration' (NASDAQ:MSFT) | Seeking Alpha β https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration δ· Source: seekingalpha http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials | Apr 12 23:45 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: seekingalpha.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration | Apr 12 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seekingalpha.com | Microsoft tumbles as UBS suggests Office 365 could see 'gentle deceleration' (NASDAQ:MSFT) | Seeking Alpha | Apr 12 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - Techrights | Apr 12 23:45 | |
| MinceR | dunno, but there are some that can cool your coke down for you | Apr 12 23:46 |
| MinceR | like Land Cruisers :> | Apr 12 23:46 |
| matey | maybe one of those pine tree air fresheners that smell like the diseases they likely cause | Apr 12 23:46 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft = corruption. Bribes. Crime. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323 | Apr 12 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Apr 12 23:46 | |
| MinceR | what disease smells like pine trees? | Apr 12 23:46 |
| matey | beaveritis | Apr 12 23:46 |
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| matey | ive only heard of it, it sounds terrible | Apr 12 23:46 |
| techrights-news | Move to LibreOffice https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-365-is-getting-a-rather-uncharitable-price-hike stop supporting crimes; quit paying criminals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988 | Apr 12 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft 365 is getting a rather uncharitable price hike | TechRadar | Apr 12 23:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Apr 12 23:47 | |
| DaemonFC | <matey> does it include a coke at least? preferably a cold one | Apr 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/891052/ | Apr 12 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stable kernel 4.9.310 [LWN.net] | Apr 12 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | "The 4.9.310 stable kernel update has been released; the changes consist mostly of backported Spectre mitigation patches. " | Apr 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz | I've not seen Microsoft Levin for a while... | Apr 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I admit I go to the dealerships to use oil change coupons and suck them dry of Diet Pepsis in the waiting room. | Apr 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody there cares. | Apr 12 23:48 |
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| MinceR | lol | Apr 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL was bragging that they had complimentary sodas at BMW. | Apr 12 23:49 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS3LWOTCW4A | Apr 12 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wS3LWOTCW4A | Apr 12 23:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | The Naked Gun - Nice Beaver - Invidious | Apr 12 23:49 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Apr 12 23:49 |
| matey | and suck them dry of Diet Pepsis in the waiting room. <- goddammit enough with the straight lines | Apr 12 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "So does Chevy but I didn't need a $1,200 wheel bearing to get a Coke.". | Apr 12 23:49 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: well, at least MARISOL could get something at BMW that doesn't suck | Apr 12 23:49 |
| techrights-news | Ksplice Known Exploit Detection for VM_IO Use After Free, BPF bounds checking, and more⦠https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001 | Apr 12 23:49 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: oracle.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001 | Apr 12 23:49 | |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz, does your website's cert SHA 256 fingerprint begin with a 2D:E3:9F:A3:85:46:B6:B6 | Apr 12 23:49 |
| matey | regulars here already know marisol sucks enough for everybody | Apr 12 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Carvana basically buys up people's old cars and sells them to you. | Apr 12 23:50 |
| techrights-news | "Today's story, from a reader Regomised as "Al", concerns his time at a company in the 1980s. The company was working on a project to replace thousands of ageing "dumb" terminals with PCs. "The Great PC Invasion and Distributed Computing Revolution were under way," Al observed." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/ | Apr 12 23:50 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: theregister.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/ | Apr 12 23:50 | |
| DaemonFC | So it's hoping that instead of you finding a car at a fair price, private party, they can just suck up the market of decent used cars and then raise prices. | Apr 12 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | They're a predatory car lot that's saying they're a tech company. | Apr 12 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | More mjg59_ "San Francisco People Get It" crap. | Apr 12 23:51 |
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| matey | the linkin park pirates | Apr 12 23:52 |
| matey | the california chapter | Apr 12 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | From Wilmette to Gary, there's nothing so hairy, and we always collect our fee! | Apr 12 23:52 |
| matey | they need to use the vending machine idea to get your car back | Apr 12 23:52 |
| matey | jokes on them if you have arms like mr fantastic | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | And when all the cars are collected | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | And all of their fenders are ruined | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'll tow every boat in Belmont Harbor | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | To the Lincoln Park Lagoon | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | And when I've collected the ransom | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | And sunk all the ones that won't yield | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'll tow all the planes that are blocking the runways | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | At Midway, O'Hare and Meigs Field! | Apr 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | (Meigs Field is gone.) | Apr 12 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mayor Richard J. Daley blew it up. | Apr 12 23:54 |
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| DaemonFC | He reckoned paying the $40,000 fine to the FAA for illegally closing an airport (now a million dollars because of him), it would avoid court costs to sue the feds to allow it to shut down. | Apr 12 23:54 |
| matey | maybe they should have named it after him, it might still exist | Apr 12 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | It belongs to the parks department now. | Apr 12 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | He said he was worried about another 9/11 because there was an airfield so close to the buildings downtown. | Apr 12 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | But that makes no sense. | Apr 12 23:55 |
| matey | yes, thats how it works | Apr 12 23:56 |
| techrights-news | </p></blockquote></li> | Apr 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | The hijackers that day flew the planes several hundred miles. | Apr 12 23:56 |
| techrights-news | Git has security only on Microsoft Windows (the NSA back doors) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/xmqqv8veb5i6.fsf@gitster.g/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Apr 12 23:56 |
| matey | because planes looking to crash always check for an airstrip first | Apr 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | O'Hare and Midway are only about a few miles from the buildings. | Apr 12 23:56 |
| matey | before shoving themselves into a tall building | Apr 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Old versions of Microsoft Flight Simulator have Meigs Field. | Apr 12 23:57 |
| techrights-news | "Google has released Chrome version 100.0.4896.88 for Windows, Mac, and Linux. This version addresses vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/12/google-releases-security-updates-chrome https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/04/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_11.html | Apr 12 23:57 |
| matey | just like the ones in 9/11 were full of fuel-- because they were hoping to slam into the eiffel tower (but they got lost) | Apr 12 23:57 |
| techrights-news | US says internet services are exempt from Russian sanctions https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/11/23020221/us-russian-sanctions-treasury-department-exemption-internet-services because US spies on Russia | Apr 12 23:57 |
| matey | and no one stopped them because no one likes frenchies anyway | Apr 12 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | They chose international flights so they'd have lots of fuel. | Apr 12 23:58 |
| bnchs__ | https://youtube.com/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE | Apr 12 23:58 |
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| techrights-news | Costa Rica: first country to call for a moratorium on spyware technology β https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ δ· Source: accessnow | Apr 12 23:58 |
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| bnchs__ | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE | Apr 12 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | linux apps sucks | Apr 12 23:59 |
| techrights-news | "Mary Gartside's Essay antedates James Sowerbyβs and Goetheβs treatises on colour, while its illustrations have been deemed some of the earlier examples of abstraction in painting." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/gartside-theory-of-colours/ | Apr 12 23:59 |
| matey | Old versions of Microsoft Flight Simulator have Meigs Field. <- but the mayor had it removed so terrorists couldnt practice missing it entirely | Apr 12 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | all my boys hate linux apps | Apr 12 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | also the techrights bot is dead | Apr 12 23:59 |
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