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schestowitz-TRyou cannot say, "mommy and addy won't turn on the heating to save some money"Mar 15 00:00
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schestowitz-TRmany people are about to take indfintesmal downgrade to their "lifestyle"Mar 15 00:01
techrights-newsIn Korea (SK) about 1% of the population confirmed positive for COVID-19 in just one day.Mar 15 00:03
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schestowitz"infinitesimal"Mar 15 00:04
schestowitzin scare quotes evenMar 15 00:04
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Well, one reason he stopped it is if you keep handing out money for nothing, that causes inflation.Mar 15 00:04
schestowitzthose who lived modestly all along change almost nothingMar 15 00:04
schestowitzthose who borrowed from the future will be lucky not to be kicked to the streetMar 15 00:04
DaemonFCAnd the SALT deduction mostly benefits millionaires and billionaires and causes larger deficits.Mar 15 00:04
schestowitzno, that's not whyMar 15 00:05
schestowitzwhere did you read thisMar 15 00:05
schestowitzurlMar 15 00:05
kingoffrance"those who borrowed from the future" in other words, the gov and corporations Mar 15 00:05
schestowitzthem tooMar 15 00:05
kingoffrance:)Mar 15 00:05
schestowitzbut there's private debtMar 15 00:05
kingoffrancepeople dont really have a choice in this matter :)Mar 15 00:05
schestowitzthat's separateMar 15 00:05
schestowitzpiled on topMar 15 00:06
kingoffrancefairMar 15 00:06
schestowitzhttp://usdebtclock.comMar 15 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-302 redirect with weird Location: index.php?check_cookie=trueMar 15 00:06
schestowitzhttps://usdebtclock.org/Mar 15 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-usdebtclock.org | U.S. National Debt Clock : Real TimeMar 15 00:06
schestowitzwrong urlMar 15 00:06
schestowitzus now at 125% debt-to-gdop ratioMar 15 00:08
schestowitzit says it was 58% in 2000Mar 15 00:08
schestowitz34% in 1980Mar 15 00:08
schestowitz53% in 1960Mar 15 00:08
schestowitzyears ago that page also showed personal debtMar 15 00:09
schestowitzwhich is even higher than the national debtMar 15 00:09
schestowitzso a citizen might be $250,000 in debt through the govMar 15 00:09
schestowitzand a similar amount owed to a bank, e.g. mortgageMar 15 00:10
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schestowitzso the home as asset thing is basically fictional, speculativeMar 15 00:10
schestowitzthis says 40 milliion USians live in povertyMar 15 00:10
schestowitzwhile 22 million have over a millionMar 15 00:10
schestowitzand you know where they liveMar 15 00:11
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mimorek<schestowitz> years ago that page also showed personal debt   >> It does so right now.Mar 15 00:11
schestowitz41+ million on food stampsMar 15 00:11
schestowitzUS workfroce 158 millionMar 15 00:11
schestowitzless than halfMar 15 00:11
mimorekunder: "Unfunded Debt/Interest"Mar 15 00:12
schestowitz-TRoh, I see nowMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TRit is WORSE than I thoughtMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TR1:3 ratioMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TR89.0 TRILLIONMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TR3 times the national debtMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TRif this was a homeMar 15 00:13
schestowitz-TRnot a countryMar 15 00:14
schestowitz-TRit would be 3 kids with maxed up credited cardsMar 15 00:14
schestowitz-TRand two parents working full time to pay for the homeMar 15 00:14
schestowitz-TRand even if they paid for the homeMar 15 00:14
schestowitz-TR(national debt)Mar 15 00:14
schestowitz-TRthey might still lose the stuff because the debt collector comes after the kidsMar 15 00:15
schestowitz-TRmedian income $35lMar 15 00:16
schestowitz-TR*kMar 15 00:16
schestowitz-TRfor full timeMar 15 00:16
schestowitz-TRwith half the people having no incomeMar 15 00:16
schestowitz-TRbarely offsets the living expensesMar 15 00:16
schestowitz-TRUS unfunded liabilities: 168 trillionMar 15 00:17
schestowitz-TRhalf a million per citizenMar 15 00:17
schestowitz-TRinc. kids and pensionersMar 15 00:17
schestowitz-TRblame putin!Mar 15 00:17
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MinceRblame putin, bomb putinMar 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRMinceR: when there are no humans left, there will be no more debtMar 15 00:26
immibisschestowitz-TR: infinitesimal means extremely small; not noticeableMar 15 00:26
MinceRindeedMar 15 00:26
immibisa downgrade so small nobody will realize it existsMar 15 00:26
schestowitz-TRhence thew scare quotesMar 15 00:27
schestowitz-TRsome people with 3 cars on three car loansMar 15 00:27
schestowitz-TRsuddently living with the parentsMar 15 00:27
schestowitz-TRand easting bread with jamMar 15 00:27
immibishow many americans are like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0HX4a5P8eEMar 15 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r0HX4a5P8eEMar 15 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | I'm in debt up to my eyeballs... - InvidiousMar 15 00:28
schestowitz-TRimmibis: freenode was destroyed by oneMar 15 00:28
schestowitz-TRhe called himself "king of debt"Mar 15 00:28
schestowitz-TReven bought a massive home second handMar 15 00:28
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XRevan86I keep seeing destruction of things I need by one.Mar 15 00:29
immibisif hyperinflation is selected, it will be a free home from the governmentMar 15 00:29
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XRevan86At least I could leave freenode.Mar 15 00:29
schestowitz-TRimmibis: savers sufferMar 15 00:29
schestowitz-TRno savings, less cryingMar 15 00:29
immibispeople need to know that if there is not a market crash there will be a communist revolution. It may not necessarily be true, but it should be presented as if it isMar 15 00:29
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immibisYes, the net effect is as if the government stole your money and used it to buy houses for financially irresponsible people. You know, that exact thing the moron right wing keeps complaining about. Except for real and the right wing's fault.Mar 15 00:30
MinceR:>Mar 15 00:30
schestowitz-TRimmibis: hence I said earn what you needMar 15 00:31
schestowitz-TRdon't tell your life for money you cannot ever useMar 15 00:31
schestowitz-TRmeaningfullyMar 15 00:31
schestowitz-TRnone of that "designers bag" nonsenseMar 15 00:31
immibisif hyperinflation is NOT chosen, the exact opposite is true and what you are suggesting is a completely terrible idea.Mar 15 00:31
*kingoffrance writes 1000 page tome, "right wing republicanism, an infantile disorder...triumphant"Mar 15 00:31
immibisIf the market crashes, you will be glad you saved as much money as possible, and you will be able to buy a home while over-leveraged financially irresponsible idiots wallow in slaveryMar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRimmibis: read up on what happened in cubaMar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRfor those with busissesMar 15 00:32
immibisyou are predicting communist revolutionMar 15 00:32
immibis?Mar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRnoMar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRyou described two situationsMar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRhyperinflationMar 15 00:32
schestowitz-TRor revolutionMar 15 00:32
immibisI described four situationsMar 15 00:33
immibisThose are two of themMar 15 00:33
immibisMarket crash, hyperinflation, return to feudalism, or communist revolutionMar 15 00:33
immibismaybe I should say revolt instead of revolution. Sounds scarier to some people, less scary to others..Mar 15 00:33
MinceRrevoltingMar 15 00:34
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immibisIn 1/4 cases savers win a lot. In 1/4 cases debtors win a lot. In 2/4 cases money becomes meaningless (so you should have tried to enjoy your life and ignored money)Mar 15 00:34
MinceRdemons to some, angels to othersMar 15 00:34
immibisAnd... any of the cases where savers do not win will completely destroy the foundations of the society we live in today.Mar 15 00:35
immibis(like the way the right wing keeps foretelling trans people will destroy it, but actually existent and worse)Mar 15 00:35
immibisthink ukraine, russia, venezuela, zimbabweMar 15 00:36
*kingoffrance puts review blurb on back of book "MULDERYou mean that apocalyptic trash youwrite? I knew your name was familiar.I just didn't know why.KURTZWEIL [excited]You know my work?"Mar 15 00:36
schestowitzwowoiwow https://www.maketecheasier.com/change-drive-letter-windows/Mar 15 00:42
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schestowitzimmibis: different nations, different outcomesMar 15 00:44
immibislife sucks/sucked in all of themMar 15 00:47
schestowitz-TRmaybe putin will 'regain' scandinavia soonMar 15 00:48
schestowitz-TRparts of itMar 15 00:48
immibiswhy can't you choose one computer to use?Mar 15 00:48
schestowitz-TRso even a healthy market gurantees nothingMar 15 00:48
immibisan unhealthy market guarantees something.Mar 15 00:48
schestowitz-TRimmibis: hard to explain without showing itMar 15 00:48
schestowitz-TRcall me a cynicMar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRor pessimistMar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRbut sitting on a big pile of moneyMar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRmight gurantee a decade of buying worthless "luxury goods"Mar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRbut also makes you a targetMar 15 00:49
immibisIt does not guarantee that, because hyperinflation.Mar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRrightMar 15 00:49
schestowitz-TRwe disagree on the minor details nowMar 15 00:50
schestowitz-TRwell-off ukrainians nowMar 15 00:50
schestowitz-TReven in big nice homes in kievMar 15 00:50
schestowitz-TRlikely left these behindMar 15 00:50
schestowitz-TRtheir bank account might help in some other stateMar 15 00:50
schestowitz-TRthose people left in the same training as the poorMar 15 00:51
schestowitz-TRand might be treated similarlyMar 15 00:51
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: what do you make of that protester in the newsroom?Mar 15 00:55
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60744605Mar 15 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Ukraine war: Protester interrupts Russian TV news show - BBC NewsMar 15 00:55
XRevan86schestowitz: BraveMar 15 00:55
schestowitz-TRcostlyMar 15 00:55
XRevan86She might get criminal charges for this.Mar 15 00:56
XRevan86Don't know what to expect.Mar 15 00:58
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XRevan86But I'm not expecting them to just let her go because they'll want to make an example of her. But maybe they won't be too cruel since her case is just too widely known.Mar 15 01:00
XRevan86Could be provocation, but right now I don't find that hypothesis compelling.Mar 15 01:04
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XRevan86https://t.me/bbcrussian/24773 So far her lawyers simply cannot find her anywhere.Mar 15 01:05
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DaemonFC"<XRevan86> Don't know what to expect."Mar 15 01:38
DaemonFCHooliganism. Spreading fake news....Mar 15 01:38
DaemonFCHow are these even charges?Mar 15 01:38
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activelow"russian ukrainian gas dispute"... i see, and Condoleezza Rice involvement isn't mentioned in the english language wiki article: crimeaMar 15 01:52
activelowseems USA spit oil into fire year 2005 alreadyMar 15 01:53
activelowin Poland, at the border of Germany, gasoline prices are 50% of the german onesMar 15 01:53
activelowyet, Poland is a member of EU...Mar 15 01:54
activelowUkraine seeked to associate with EU, yet wasn't willing to pay EU "market" priceMar 15 01:54
activelow25billion cash poof, because illegally diverted gasMar 15 01:54
activelowi bet Ukraine economy had crashed anyway, then stability of Germany/EU were threatenedMar 15 01:55
activelowfurthermore, subverting the Northstream project was the death sentence for peaceful negotiationsMar 15 01:56
activelowbecause Ukraine could have continued to operate their pipeline, and negotiate with whoever they wished about import/export pricesMar 15 01:56
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activelownext the current media spectacleMar 15 01:59
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activelowand today some lobbied military and ministry of defense announced F-35 bomber shall be acquiredMar 15 02:01
activelow"nuclear participation", yet german air force already got fighter jets, the aging Tornado, and the multi-role Eurofighter designed to replace it including air-to-groundMar 15 02:01
activelowseems, USA too seeks to capitalize upon this conflict by selling their F-35Mar 15 02:02
DaemonFCIf they ever charged me with Disorderly Conduct, I would say "I will answer to specific charges!".Mar 15 02:02
DaemonFCThe only reason I pleaded guilty was because they charged me with something more serious and I had played a weak hand for all it was worth.Mar 15 02:03
activelowthe F-35 was rather surprising today, and it's problematic, because it distracts from the question what the glorious Eurofighter wasMar 15 02:07
activelowso, air force can distract from this question, what the billions were wasted for with the EurofighterMar 15 02:08
activelowand ask for cash, 100billion granted out of nowhere... gasoline prices more than 10cash/gallon now, and risingMar 15 02:09
activelowcorona measures will be terminated 20th march they say... no more questions ask thenMar 15 02:11
activelowwhich makes me think, if and what would happen until thenMar 15 02:11
activelowbecause, so far nothing has changedMar 15 02:11
activelowmaybe they'll plug into northstream2 until then?Mar 15 02:12
DaemonFCSo for a year they weren't even letting you out and then on the 20th there are absolutely no restrictions.Mar 15 02:12
activelowi have another suspicion, which is it could be russian military secured ukrainian military installationsMar 15 02:13
activelowas a reminder, Ukraine was the 3rd largest nuclear force, globally (Budapest Memorandum)Mar 15 02:13
activelowwhich isn't discussed, if and how it was complied with, or not; because if Ukraine didn't comply, the intervention wasn't only justified, it was mandatory thenMar 15 02:14
activelowcurrently, Westinghouse Electric fiddling inside Ukrainian nuclear facilities was reported, which i consider confirmedMar 15 02:14
activelowif anythign was violated, then USA supported this, actively, as an act of warMar 15 02:15
activelowin EuropeMar 15 02:15
activelowrecent rumors were some other installations, of ballistic missiles, close to borders of russian federation, probably another violation and act of war of USAMar 15 02:15
activelowpreceeding the "russian aggression"Mar 15 02:16
schestowitz-TR[00:56] <XRevan86> She might get criminal charges for this.Mar 15 02:16
schestowitz-TRto make an example of herMar 15 02:16
schestowitz-TRthey might as well torture her and her relativesMar 15 02:16
schestowitz-TRlike the nazis did in villagesMar 15 02:16
DaemonFCThey'll make an example with criminal charges.Mar 15 02:16
DaemonFCThen they'll torment her and force her to read out a prepared confession.Mar 15 02:16
schestowitz-TRcrime: offending putin in frpont of peopleMar 15 02:16
DaemonFCThen they'll make her apologize for the harm she has caused to the Russian people.Mar 15 02:17
DaemonFCI wouldn't be surprised if she was forced to say she was under the influence of others who were spreading this propaganda.Mar 15 02:20
DaemonFCThat is the Communist playbook.Mar 15 02:20
DaemonFCSo the one Putin would be well trained in.Mar 15 02:20
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: does the suse stance/statement from suse extend to opensusseMar 15 02:20
schestowitz-TRwill they expel russian packagers, maintainers, code, projects?Mar 15 02:21
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: "I twas drunk"Mar 15 02:21
schestowitz-TR"I didn't know what I was saying"Mar 15 02:21
schestowitz-TR"I'm sorry I let the country down"Mar 15 02:22
schestowitz-TRmaybe under threat of punishment to loved onesMar 15 02:22
schestowitz-TRPutin=KGBMar 15 02:22
schestowitz-TRthis is his turfMar 15 02:22
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activelowthat's the trivial contradiction, i think: if Ukraine complied with Budapest memorandum, then the russian fleet at crimea couldn't existMar 15 02:27
activeloweither it's controlled by russian including various nuclear stockpiles and carriers, and if it isn't and Ukraine controlled it, then Budapest memorandom cannot be complied withMar 15 02:28
schestowitz-TR???Mar 15 02:28
activelowexcept if, Russia terminated the entire harbor, and with it access to mediterrenean coastMar 15 02:28
activelowschestowitz-TR: Ukraine must not have possessed any nuclear weaponsMar 15 02:28
activelowyet Ukraine controlled crimea and the military installation thereMar 15 02:29
activelowthat's a contradictionMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRyou said there were russian bases in crimeaMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRafaik, this is falseMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRand maybe you got that from russia propaganda sitesMar 15 02:29
activelowthe status of crimea was disputedMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRnoMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRit was part of ukraineMar 15 02:29
schestowitz-TRanyway, gnMar 15 02:30
activelowit's the military facilities there, which weren't "Ukraine", and cannot be, because this would violate the Budapest MemorandumMar 15 02:30
activelowif russians had decided to dispose all their weapons and carriers there, they had lost access to mediterrenean sea... another free pass for USA and their acts of war in middle eastMar 15 02:31
activelowthat's whyMar 15 02:31
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MinceRukraine gave up their nuclear weapons in the Budapest Memorandum, which then terrorussia violated in 2014Mar 15 02:35
activelowMinceR: contradiction, if Ukraine controls crimeaMar 15 02:35
MinceRwhat contradicts whatMar 15 02:36
activelowUkraine couldn't have both: crimea and compliance with budapest memorandumMar 15 02:36
activelowadd to this, i am still curious what Westinghouse Electric fiddled inside Ukrainian nuclear facilitiesMar 15 02:37
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activelowthe crimea question wasn't first and foremost a "violation of territorial integrity", it wasn't possible to retain "security guarantees" if Ukraine controlled crimea, which are the military facilitiesMar 15 02:40
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activelowand Russian could not lose control over those military facilities, not because of Ukraine, because of USA and their aggressionsMar 15 02:40
activelowsMar 15 02:41
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MinceR15 033630 < activelow> Ukraine couldn't have both: crimea and compliance with budapest memorandumMar 15 02:44
MinceRbullshitMar 15 02:44
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MinceRin the Budapest Memorandum, russia gave up all its territorial claims from ukraineMar 15 02:45
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MinceRand crimea was part of ukraine at the timeMar 15 02:45
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activelowMinceR: i am not talking about crimea, i am referring to the military installations including soviet nuclear and carriersMar 15 02:45
activelowUkraine must not have possessed any of this, to retain "security guarantees"Mar 15 02:46
MinceRfunny how crimea is literally in the message i citedMar 15 02:46
activelowand Russia could not have lost control over those military installations, even if they wanted to, because... USA and their global aggressionsMar 15 02:47
activelowand crimea probably wasn't the only oneMar 15 02:47
MinceRrussia kept control over their naval base in sevastopol, if that's what you meanMar 15 02:48
activelowMaruipol, and some othersMar 15 02:49
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MinceRmariupol isn't even in crimeaMar 15 02:50
activelowyes, there is moreMar 15 02:50
MinceRyou need to consume less russian propaganda, it's turning your brain into mushMar 15 02:50
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activelowthis isn't russian propaganda, it's factsMar 15 02:50
activelowhadn't seen a nuclear submarine before, admit this, anywayMar 15 02:51
MinceRyeah, i knowMar 15 02:51
MinceR"alternative facts"Mar 15 02:51
activelowunmentioned factsMar 15 02:51
activelowzero coverageMar 15 02:51
activelowi didn't hear anyone mention the Russian-Ukrainian gas dispute anymore either, or Westinghouse Electric fiddling inside Ukrainian nuclear facilitiesMar 15 02:52
activelowExxonMobile, Burisma, and who knows who elseMar 15 02:52
MinceRwell, it's pretty much irrelevant at this pointMar 15 02:53
activelowand even if Ukraine intended to join EU, ... guess what, ExxonMobile is USA, not USAMar 15 02:53
MinceRwhen this ends, there practically won't be a russia anymoreMar 15 02:53
MinceRpossibly also no ukraineMar 15 02:53
MinceR> USA, not USAMar 15 02:53
MinceRokMar 15 02:53
activelowno EUMar 15 02:53
MinceRguess what, usian corporations also do business in the EUMar 15 02:53
activelowsure, and Atlantic Bridge minion war ciminals control the entire media apparatus, industry, politicsMar 15 02:54
MinceRyeah, especially RTMar 15 02:54
MinceRand the other crap you read as gospelMar 15 02:55
activelowwhy would you say there won't be any Ukraine and Russia anymore soon?Mar 15 02:55
MinceRthe russian economy is crumblingMar 15 02:56
activeloweveryone isMar 15 02:56
activelowmore or less, mostly EUMar 15 02:56
MinceReven if putler isn't deposed (putting his oligarchs in power, possibly fragmenting the country) and russia isn't sliced up by the west, they'll become isolated from their former trading partners and dependent on red chinaMar 15 02:56
activelowwhich i consider social, political, and economical armageddonMar 15 02:56
MinceRand that is assuming putler doesn't start a nuclear war that wipes us all outMar 15 02:57
MinceRand who knows what will be left of ukraineMar 15 02:57
activelowthat's not his plan, neither for ukriane nor anyone elseMar 15 02:57
MinceRtoo badMar 15 02:57
MinceRhe doesn't have the power to implement his planMar 15 02:57
activelowif at all, it's the plan of... USAMar 15 02:57
MinceRhis underlings lied to himMar 15 02:57
MinceRand the west is more united than he thoughtMar 15 02:57
MinceRindeed, the west is more united against him than they were against hitlerMar 15 02:57
activelowwell, the "west" hasn't got me, which is the intelligenceMar 15 02:58
activelowor former, so to sayMar 15 02:58
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MinceRyeah, keep flattering yourself, it will help you understand what's going onMar 15 02:58
activelowi have no clue, what will happen nextMar 15 02:58
MinceRit depends on several thingsMar 15 02:59
MinceRwill putler's madness make him launch ICBMs? were those ICBMs properly maintained? will they make it anywhere near the target? will they be able to explode?Mar 15 02:59
MinceRwill the west respond? will red china and north korea respond to _that_?Mar 15 03:00
MinceRalso, how well do anti-ICBM systems work?Mar 15 03:01
MinceRwere the people who predicted that bombing modern urban sprawls will result in such a great output of carbon black it will cause global nuclear winter, or will the people who said those people were wrong right?Mar 15 03:01
MinceRwhich of these powers are using salted warheads?Mar 15 03:01
activelowi don't think this are the plans of russian militaryMar 15 03:02
MinceRalso, will putler's underlings finally decide to separate him from the chain of command before he does even more damage?Mar 15 03:02
MinceRyeahMar 15 03:02
MinceRthe russian military didn't plan on being bogged down in ukraine for weeksMar 15 03:02
MinceRthey didn't plan on abandoning their vehicles due to fuel running outMar 15 03:02
activelowoverrated reportingsMar 15 03:03
MinceRthey expected the ukrainians to welcome their new wannabe overlords with open armsMar 15 03:03
activelowunverifiableMar 15 03:03
MinceRis the reporting of the passage of time also overrated?Mar 15 03:03
MinceRhave only 24 hours passed after all?Mar 15 03:03
activelowhad a phone call today, my father said: "20th march there won't be any more questions asked about masks and vaccination status"Mar 15 03:04
MinceRand Papa Nurgle smiledMar 15 03:05
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DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/who-now-tracking-hybrid-covid-19-variant-deltacron/Mar 15 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | WHO now tracking hybrid COVID-19 variant: ‘deltacron’ | WGN-TVMar 15 03:54
DaemonFCThere's an Electioncron variant that doesn't require any masks now, you know.Mar 15 03:54
MinceRlolMar 15 03:55
MinceRi'm waiting for megacronMar 15 03:55
MinceRand/or galvacron and/or unicronMar 15 03:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, There's Facebook ads for a credit card backed by a "home equity loan".Mar 15 03:58
DaemonFCYOU CAN STILL SHOP!!!!Mar 15 03:58
DaemonFCJUST USE YOUR HOUSE!!!Mar 15 03:58
MinceRlolMar 15 03:58
DaemonFCWe take cash, debit, credit, and HOUSE!Mar 15 03:58
DaemonFCWe take house and then when you don't pay we take house.Mar 15 03:58
DaemonFCBut that's next year and Disney World is calling!Mar 15 03:59
DaemonFCThey have STAR WARS LAND!Mar 15 03:59
MinceRstill not as bad as russiaMar 15 03:59
MinceR"we take ukraine."Mar 15 03:59
DaemonFCMinceR, Gas is so expensive now that you probably need to borrow against your home to drive to work and back if you commute.Mar 15 04:00
DaemonFCMandy told me to get in the car and go get his medicine today. I told him "I'm not burning half a gallon of gas to get to the pharmacy when it'll still be there tomorrow when I'm on my way to pick you up!".Mar 15 04:01
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AdmFubarooopsie doodles  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/03/researcher-uses-600-year-old-algorithm-to-crack-crypto-keys-found-in-the-wild/Mar 15 05:40
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AdmFubarhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/torguard-vpn-blocks-bittorrent-on-us-servers-to-settle-piracy-lawsuit/Mar 15 05:45
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schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/icbm.pngMar 15 07:26
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techrights-news5 more! "There are 2234 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1795 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiMar 15 07:33
techrights-news"No desease but two more years of hard lockdown. Why? Because as much as I'd love to have open freedom as soon as possible, I would never choose to have COVID-19 or reduced fitness for that. It's not only the six-week desease: it also results in permanent damage to the lungs" gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-11-30-bronzies-five-questions-for-december-2021.gmiMar 15 07:34
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schestowitz-TRgm, XRevan86Mar 15 07:35
XRevan86schestowitz: openSUSE hasn't bannedme, no.Mar 15 07:36
techrights-news"I finally implemented a database on Amphipod and its soooo fast now!!! No more stupid json files. þough, it seems like MongoDB's "sample" aggregator or whatever is super biased towards oldest documents?" gemini://seapunk.xyz/log/4d6011653e251b63f78f37f1ebee3533.gmiMar 15 07:36
XRevan86"and Russian could not lose control over those military facilities, not because of Ukraine, because of USA and their aggressions" <- Crimea's existence violating the Budapest Memorandum is a new take to me.Mar 15 07:36
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: if they treated you poorly, be sure to tell meMar 15 07:36
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: yes, I ignore that revisionismMar 15 07:37
techrights-news"My main drive was filled to about 70 GB, and my backup was 89 GB." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-14-videos-are-big.gmiMar 15 07:38
techrights-news"It’s common to hear computer jobs described as “cushy” — at least compared to “manual work”. But I’m back at my desk for the first time in a few months, and let me tell you: if you aren’t acclimated to it, working on a computer all day long is exhausting." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220314_computer_workMar 15 07:40
techrights-news"Both sides engage in a propaganda war. The majority of citizens in the West seem capable of spotting lies, exaggerations, censorship, and repression on the Russian side, but completely unable to detect the same on their own side." gemini://oberdada.pollux.casa/gemlog/2022-03-14_madness.gmiMar 15 07:41
techrights-news"I have decided to write another GTK application in Rust, this time I am progressing extremely fast. Note that this post goes on for probably way to long, probably including too much unnecessary things. The tldr is: I was busy and very productive this week." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/03/14/gtk-in-one-week/Mar 15 07:41
techrights-newsI made a Gemini app! gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/i-made-a-gemini-appMar 15 07:42
XRevan86schestowitz: "yes, I ignore that revisionism" <- activelоw always has interesting takes.Mar 15 07:43
XRevan86At least he's not blaming the Jews I guess.Mar 15 07:43
schestowitz-TRleave that to Mel GibsonMar 15 07:44
techrights-news"I shared the code for a sample application a few weeks ago with the promise that I'd be making a follow-up video on the topic. Well, here it is!" gemini://tilde.team/~tomasino/journal/20220308-how-to-build-a-gemini-application.gmiMar 15 07:46
techrights-news"Offpunk looks very interesting. However I don't need a offline browser at the moment. It's nice that it's combining all aspects in one, and it's merging Gophersphere and Geminispace." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmiMar 15 07:48
techrights-news"I finally got around to tinker around with Arch on my Raspi 4 8GB. It seems that this will make a pretty capable small desktop replacement, especially if on SSD is attached. :) Well see if everything that i need for my daily driver will run." gemini://en.gmn.clttr.info/Mar 15 07:49
techrights-news𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 #IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 14, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/irc-log-140322/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/irc-log-140322/Mar 15 07:50
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techrights-news"Here are a few things I do immediately on any new Linux server" https://danielmiessler.com/blog/things-immediately-new-linux-box/Mar 15 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Things I Do Immediately on a New Linux Box - Daniel MiesslerMar 15 07:53
techrights-news"If you're trying to protect an Nginx server from a ton of traffic" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/rate-limiting-requests-ip-address-nginxMar 15 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Rate limiting requests per IP address in Nginx | Jeff GeerlingMar 15 07:53
techrights-news"A while back some Unix systems introduced a device called /dev/full. Reading from /dev/full returns zero bytes, just like /dev/zero" https://blog.plover.com/2022/03/13/#error-deviceMar 15 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.plover.com | The Universe of Discourse : Why no Unix error device?Mar 15 07:54
techrights-news"Brad Alexander emailed asking how I dual-boot my FreeBSD workstation that doubles as a Linux Steam game machine" https://rubenerd.com/my-lazy-approach-to-freebsd-dual-booting/Mar 15 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: My lazy approach to FreeBSD dual-bootingMar 15 07:54
techrights-news"Unix Philosophy was first put into writing by Doug McIlroy in the 1978 Bell System Technical Journal." https://klarasystems.com/articles/unix-philosophy-a-quick-look-at-the-ideas-that-made-unix/Mar 15 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | Unix Philosophy: A Quick Look at the Ideas that Made Unix | Klara Inc.Mar 15 07:55
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techrights-newsI have previously been running NetBSD/evbarm and OpenBSD/armv7 on my CubieBoard2, and wrote about it here and hereMar 15 07:55
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techrights-news"I have previously been running NetBSD/evbarm and OpenBSD/armv7 on my CubieBoard2, and wrote about it here and here" https://www.cambus.net/freebsd-on-the-cubieboard2/Mar 15 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cambus.net | FreeBSD on the CubieBoard2 | Frederic CambusMar 15 07:55
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techrights-news"The impending price rises are result of a pincer movement of sorts, according to the semiconductor industry researchers." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ddr3-supplies-rapidly-shrinking-as-consumers-hold-onto-older-hardwareMar 15 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | DDR3 Supplies ‘Rapidly Shrinking’ as Consumers Hold Onto Older Hardware | Tom's HardwareMar 15 07:56
techrights-news"With the r4.8 release of moteus, a not-yet-announced feature was included — the ability to have an off-board primary encoder!" https://jpieper.com/2022/03/08/external-primary-encoders-for-moteus/Mar 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jpieper.com | external primary encoders for moteus | A Modicum of FunMar 15 07:57
techrights-news"Today I needed to play back an MP3 or WAV file through a USB audio device on a Raspberry Pi, in a Python script. "Should be easy!" I thought!" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/playing-sounds-python-on-raspberry-piMar 15 07:57
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: jeffgeerling.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/playing-sounds-python-on-raspberry-piMar 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Playing sounds with Python on a Raspberry Pi | Jeff GeerlingMar 15 07:57
techrights-news"We have a very special announcement for today's blog: The Arduino Uno Mini Limited Edition is now available at SparkFun Electronics" https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4366Mar 15 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Uno Mini Limited Edition - News - SparkFun ElectronicsMar 15 07:58
techrights-news"I was talking to a friend last summer about what resources might be helpful for folks learning to program" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/03/08/tiny-programs/Mar 15 07:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | Some tiny personal programs I've writtenMar 15 07:59
techrights-news"The following is my experience with each of the above (as it relates to my blog—I get it, not all sites have the constraints and needs of a personal blog, so caveat noted)" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/inline-all-the-things/Mar 15 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Inline All The Things - Jim Nielsen’s BlogMar 15 07:59
techrights-news"Over the past few months, I’ve been hard at work trying to reduce the latency of workflows for one of the APIs that my team owns." https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2022/03/11/One-Weird-Trick/Mar 15 08:00
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techrights-news"The underlying courtroom confrontation kicked off way back in 2014, when Christian rapper Flame accused Katy Perry of infringing upon his “Joyful Noise” track, which first released in 2008." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/03/11/katy-perry-dark-horse-appeal-victory/Mar 15 08:01
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techrights-news"It seems that every time there is a large political event in the world, someone calls for someone else to be excluded from the Internet." https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/03/why-the-world-must-resist-calls-to-undermine-the-internet/Mar 15 08:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | Why the World Must Resist Calls to Undermine the Internet - Internet SocietyMar 15 08:02
techrights-news"Julian Assange’s solicitors Birnberg Peirce statement on Supreme Court Decision..." https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-release/uk-supreme-court-refuses-permission-to-appeal-in-assange-extradition/Mar 15 08:02
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XRevan86https://theins.ru/news/249294 Lawyers still cannot find her, The Investigative Committee are initiating an inquiry relating to the 144-145 criminal codes.Mar 15 08:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.ru | Делом редактора Первого канала Марины Овсянниковой занялся Следственный комитет, начата доследственная проверка — ТАССMar 15 08:04
techrights-news"In our last blog, GPS vs GNSS, we covered the basics of how satellites function together to create usable geolocation devices." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4278Mar 15 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Understanding GNSS Orbits - News - SparkFun ElectronicsMar 15 08:04
techrights-news"Let's say there's a network failure: half of the computers connected to the system can no longer communicate with each other" https://matt-rickard.com/blockchain-trade-offs/Mar 15 08:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Blockchain Trade-offsMar 15 08:05
techrights-news"At IOP Publishing, we have introduced two different but complementary approaches to bias reduction at all our self-owned open access journals." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/anonymity-or-transparency-best-solution-bias-peer-reviewMar 15 08:06
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techrights-news"The U.S. chipmaker unveiled plans last September to invest as much as $95 billion in Europe over the next decade" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/intel-to-announce-details-of-europe-investment-plans-on-tuesday/90213948 blah blah blah http://techrights.org/wiki/IntelMar 15 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | intel: Intel to announce details of Europe investment plans on Tuesday, CIO News, ET CIOMar 15 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel - TechrightsMar 15 08:13
techrights-newsMicrosoft: we want to kill Windows but make a few pennies in the process https://www.thurrott.com/windows/264202/microsoft-is-experimenting-with-ads-in-the-windows-11-file-explorerMar 15 08:13
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techrights-news"For the unversed YouTube Vanced is a modded version of the original app that allows users to block all video ads on YouTube without a premium subscription." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/enterprise-services-and-applications/youtube-vanced-to-shut-down-due-to-legal-reasons/90213924Mar 15 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | youtube vanced: YouTube Vanced to shut down 'due to legal reasons', CIO News, ET CIOMar 15 08:15
SomeH4x0ranyone else willing to continue developing it though?Mar 15 08:16
techrights-newsWe leaked your data, but we refuse to talk about it... https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22972768/ubisoft-cyber-security-incident-hackMar 15 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ubisoft says it experienced a ‘cyber security incident’, and the purported Nvidia hackers are taking credit - The VergeMar 15 08:16
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techrights-news"Why FIDO2 and WebAuthN are so much better than SMS and app-based auth" https://danielmiessler.com/blog/not-all-mfa-is-equal-and-the-differences-matter-a-lot/Mar 15 08:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Not All MFA is Equal, and the Differences Matter a Lot - Daniel MiesslerMar 15 08:20
mateymarina ovsanikova is already a hero, google translate worked pretty well on xrevans article but leaves something to be desiredMar 15 08:20
mateyhi someh4x0rMar 15 08:20
techrights-news"A month ago I tweeted about my annoyance with SSO or Single Sign On." https://goteleport.com/blog/why-sso-sucks/Mar 15 08:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goteleport.com | Why SSO Sucks and the future of SSO | TeleportMar 15 08:21
mateythe google translate version is pretty good, except for this line:Mar 15 08:21
mateyWhat kind of article is incriminated to oatmeal is still unknown.Mar 15 08:21
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mateyit would take a russian speaker i assume, to explain how that came about. but google will literally turn line noise into real words, so it could be the algorithm (and not have any real linguistic explanation)Mar 15 08:22
XRevan86Ah, it's because she's OvsyannikovaMar 15 08:22
XRevan86An oatmeal-related surname.Mar 15 08:22
mateythere you have itMar 15 08:23
mateyso the problem wasnt even in translation, it actually did a decent job thereMar 15 08:23
techrights-newsSurveillance "https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/bob-iger-avatar-metaverse-investment-1235110823/Mar 15 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Bob Iger Joins Web3 Metaverse Avatar Company Genies – The Hollywood ReporterMar 15 08:23
mateyi mean, its far from the random word it appears to beMar 15 08:23
techrights-news"The service was set to impose mandatory logins for use from today [Tuesday] but does not appear to have done so as of this writing [1140 AEDT]" https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/no-opt-out-for-users-as-iview-mandatory-logins-introduced-researcher.htmlMar 15 08:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - No opt-out for users as iview mandatory logins introduced: researcherMar 15 08:24
mateyi use google translate very sparingly, a couple times a month or less on averageMar 15 08:24
mateyit is easier than learning russianMar 15 08:24
techrights-news"The exact purpose for which Ukraine's defense ministry is using the technology is unclear, Ton-That said." https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/13/ukraine-has-started-using-clearview-ais-facial-recognition-during-war.htmlMar 15 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Ukraine has started using Clearview AI’s facial recognition during warMar 15 08:24
techrights-news"potentially vet people of interest at checkpoints, among other uses" https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-ukraine-has-started-using-clearview-ais-facial-recognition-during-war-2022-03-13/Mar 15 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: Ukraine has started using Clearview AI’s facial recognition during war | ReutersMar 15 08:25
techrights-news"He told the agency that his company has a database of more than 2 billion images from the Russian social media service VKontakte." https://www.thequint.com/explainers/clearview-ai-the-controversial-facial-recognition-tech-ukraine-is-using-against-russiaMar 15 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thequint.com | Clearview AI: The Controversial Facial Recognition Tech Ukraine is Using Against RussiaMar 15 08:26
techrights-news"Clearview AI's technology has been criticised by privacy watchdogs." https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60738204Mar 15 08:26
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mateyit would be awesome to take wiktionary, get the translated words for each word, and at least be able to do a mechanical translation on any text (only getting as far as the size of vocabulary that wiktionary has in its translation section, which is limited)Mar 15 08:26
mateywithout even an internet connectionMar 15 08:27
mateyor any sort of machine learningMar 15 08:27
techrights-news"That is changing. These days, authorities are also investigating XVideos. Survivors of sexualized violence are going public." https://netzpolitik.org/2022/xvideos-the-porn-empire-next-door/Mar 15 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netzpolitik.org | XVideos: The porn empire next doorMar 15 08:27
techrights-news"Match said up to 500,000 free Garbo searches would be made available, and thereafter a check would cost $2.50 plus a processing fee." https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tinder-lets-users-run-background-checks-before-dates-1698746Mar 15 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Tinder lets users run background checks before datesMar 15 08:27
mateyof course many of the translations would be hilarious, and it would settle once and for all the limitations of a mechanical and literal translation. maybe it would even end the baptist church.Mar 15 08:28
mateybut id find it useful either wayMar 15 08:28
techrights-news"Complaints in five countries. An alliance of organizations, including noyb, Privacy International (PI), Hermes Center, and Homo Digitalis, filed a series of complaints against Clearview AI Inc. in May 2021." https://noyb.eu/en/eu-20-mio-fine-clearview-ai-italyMar 15 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | € 20 Mio Fine for Clearview AI in ItalyMar 15 08:28
techrights-newsConfidentiality: ""Whistleblowing is dangerous business. Whistleblowers face grave consequences if they’re caught and, to make matters worse, the anonymity set – the set of potential whistleblowers for a given story – is often quite small." https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/03/11/coverdrop-securing-initial-contact-for-whistleblowers/Mar 15 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightbluetouchpaper.org | CoverDrop: Securing Initial Contact for Whistleblowers | Light Blue TouchpaperMar 15 08:29
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kingoffranceIs anonymity or transparency the best solution to bias in peer review? | Times Higher Education (THE)        it turns out the answer is..........neither, you have to register or subscribe to readMar 15 08:39
techrights-news"In cooperation between the worker’s union “UNI Global” and privacy NGO “noyb.eu”, Amazon warehouse workers from Germany, UK, Italy, Poland and Slovakia filed access requests under Article 15 GDPR today." https://noyb.eu/en/amazon-workers-demand-data-transparencyMar 15 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | Amazon Workers demand Data-TransparencyMar 15 08:39
mateyim not sure how anonymity would reduce biasMar 15 08:40
kingoffranceim not sure why they think there is such a thing as a non-biased individualMar 15 08:40
mateynor how nymity would reveal itMar 15 08:40
techrights-newsTrying to maintain US dominance amid economic collapse https://www.vice.com/en/article/akva8e/biden-signs-executive-order-bullish-on-crypto-digital-us-dollarMar 15 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Biden Signs Executive Order Bullish on Crypto, Digital U.S. DollarMar 15 08:40
mateyif there was, they would produce perfect argumentsMar 15 08:41
techrights-news"The EU Parliament’s committee on economic and monetary affairs voted on Monday to move forward with a legislative framework for regulating digital assets." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/14/22977132/bitcoin-european-union-parliament-ban-proof-of-work-cryptocurrenciesMar 15 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | EU Parliament backs off plans to phase out energy-hungry cryptocurrencies - The VergeMar 15 08:41
mateywell, not necessarilyMar 15 08:41
mateythey could still be in error, but none of their errors would be due to biasMar 15 08:41
mateybut those would still be the best arguments! and people would trust those arguments as if jesus came backMar 15 08:42
techrights-news"Meta Platforms Inc. after the owner of Facebook and Instagram Thursday said it will allow calls for violence" https://siliconangle.com/2022/03/10/facebook-instagram-will-now-allow-language-calling-violence-russian-troops/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/Mar 15 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia opens criminal case against Meta after it allows language calling for violence against Russian troops - SiliconANGLEMar 15 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Profits From Conflict | TechrightsMar 15 08:42
mateyof course its all imaginary, but most perfect things are Mar 15 08:42
techrights-news"There have been several calls for Russian Internet networks to be shut down in one way or another and announcements that Russia is going to make such cuts" https://labs.ripe.net/author/stephane_bortzmeyer/internet-network-shutdowns-in-russia/Mar 15 08:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labs.ripe.net | Internet Network Shutdowns in Russia | RIPE LabsMar 15 08:42
techrights-news"There is much speculation about what has been happening to the Internet in Ukraine since the ongoing conflict began on 24 February." https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/the-ukrainian-internet/Mar 15 08:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labs.ripe.net | The Ukrainian Internet | RIPE LabsMar 15 08:43
techrights-newsSocial control media = platforms for hate, violence and terror. Just make sure you're on the "right" side, i.e. the one more financially beneficial to Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/Mar 15 08:44
techrights-newsOligarchs' gerrymandering through thresholds? https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/electoral-threshold-plan-to-oust-german-small-party-meps/Mar 15 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Electoral threshold plan to oust German small party MEPs – Patrick BreyerMar 15 08:45
mateythe worst thing about that article is the title. it suggests that "anonymity" and "transparency" are mutually exclusiveMar 15 08:45
mateywhich they are (in some ways)Mar 15 08:45
techrights-newsCrazy ol man pretends he solved COVID-19 although a million USians died and are still dying https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/biden-says-infrastructure-bill-will-transform-america-in-first-in-person-dnc-winter-meeting-in-2-years/Mar 15 08:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Biden Says Infrastructure Bill Will Transform America in First In-Person DNC Winter Meeting in 2 Years : Broadband BreakfastMar 15 08:46
kingoffrancethats because they're biased!Mar 15 08:46
mateyi think there are too many studies that anonymise results in the process of removing bias for the question to (broadly) make senseMar 15 08:46
mateymaybe thats a different question thoughMar 15 08:47
kingoffranceno, that's a perfect exampleMar 15 08:47
mateythats because they're biased! <- exactly. whoever wrote the article was biased, whether they were anonymous or notMar 15 08:47
techrights-newsSpeaking of COVID deniers... http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/Mar 15 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | TechrightsMar 15 08:48
kingoffranceyou get totally different results if you mandate binary versus trinary versus etc.  conway's law :DMar 15 08:48
techrights-newsSocial control media https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/qanon-ukraine-biolabs-russian-propaganda-efforts-boosted-us-far-right-rcna19392Mar 15 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | QAnon, Ukraine and 'biolabs': Russian propaganda efforts boosted by U.S. far rightMar 15 08:48
kingoffranceto get back to your baptist quip lolMar 15 08:48
techrights-newsSocial control media far from harmless. We need to shun and boycott social control media for our own good... https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/first-war-tiktok-era-sees-tragedy-humor-deceit-1698779Mar 15 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | First war of the TikTok era sees tragedy, humor and deceitMar 15 08:49
mateyoh im only picking on them because theyre so "literalist" Mar 15 08:49
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techrights-newsSocial control media in action https://www.protocol.com/policy/tiktok-newsguard-covidMar 15 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok is pushing COVID-19 misinformation on kids - ProtocolMar 15 08:49
mateyand adore the letter of the law to the point where they think "jews for jesus" is a great ideaMar 15 08:49
kingoffrancethat wasnt a complaint ...Mar 15 08:49
mateyoh i didnt think it wasMar 15 08:49
kingoffrance:)Mar 15 08:49
techrights-news"A new report from Harvard researchers finds that TikTok remains a rich source of misinformation and disinformation about Ukraine" https://www.fastcompany.com/90730873/tiktok-ukrainian-war-misinformation-harvard-researchMar 15 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Why Ukrainian war misinformation spreads so quickly on TikTokMar 15 08:49
mateybut i mean, if everyone had an idea of how absurd literal translations really wereMar 15 08:50
mateyand could see them performed on anythingMar 15 08:50
techrights-news"Misinformation ricochets around the internet during any world event or political conflict — that’s nothing new — but TikTok poses new challenges" https://digiday.com/media/misinformation-on-tiktok-is-a-whole-different-beast-how-publishers-are-tackling-the-ukraine-russia-war-disinformation-problem-on-tiktok/Mar 15 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digiday.com | How publishers are tackling the war disinformation problem on TikTokMar 15 08:50
mateyim only saying that a pleasant side effect (hardly a goal) might be a reduction in "marketshare" for baptistsMar 15 08:50
techrights-news"Zoe Thomas: TikTok is home to millions of fun and silly videos. But since Russia invaded Ukraine, users' feeds have been flooded with videos about the war" https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/tech-news-briefing/tiktoks-new-moderation-challenge-ukraine-war-videos/4c2252bc-93ce-4085-95cf-7329618532c5Mar 15 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok’s New Moderation Challenge: Ukraine War Videos - Tech News Briefing - WSJ PodcastsMar 15 08:51
mateyid probably find that when i wanted to read an article in another language, it helped "just enough" for my purposesMar 15 08:51
techrights-news"In one video on Wednesday, RIA Novosti laced together recorded U.S. Senate testimony from Victoria Nuland, a State Department official, about biological-research labs in Ukraine with a voiceover falsely suggesting Ukraine has covered up bio-warfare projects" https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2022/03/09/tiktok-russia-ukraine-misinformation-ria-novosti-ban-putin/Mar 15 08:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Kremlin’s RIA Novosti Continues Posting TikTok Propaganda Despite Platform’s Russia ‘Ban’Mar 15 08:51
mateyor maybe it would only prove that it wasnt nearly enough.Mar 15 08:51
mateyif youre looking at a mechanical translation, a direct one, you either become a detective or you become lostMar 15 08:53
mateyfunnily enough, as you know as much as anyone here, even when youre looking at a scholarly and expert translation, you will sometimes become lost unless you are a detectiveMar 15 08:53
mateyand then as far as the media goes, even when looking at something written in the native language of the writer... without being a detective, you will be lostMar 15 08:54
mateybecause you have to compare what theyre saying to what you know. and this is just as true when you know their name. Mar 15 08:55
techrights-news"The Indiana State Teachers Association said it found out less than a week before the legislative session ended early Wednesday about emails sent through a form on its website not reaching the accounts of lawmakers" https://www.securityweek.com/filter-blocked-70000-emails-indiana-lawmakers-billMar 15 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Filter Blocked 70,000 Emails to Indiana Lawmakers on Bill | SecurityWeek.ComMar 15 08:55
kingoffrancehttps://xkcd.com/1168/   to save literal translations, simply enter your favorite passage of any book.  you have 10 seconds.         KOF?    KOF: ......   i'm so sorry....Mar 15 08:55
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techrights-news"Real-time network data show that the restrictions are coming into effect across multiple providers rendering the platform widely unusable, corroborating user reports." https://netblocks.org/reports/instagram-restricted-in-russia-as-online-space-continues-to-shrink-JBQXvVAoMar 15 08:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netblocks.org | Instagram restricted in Russia as online space continues to shrink - NetBlocksMar 15 08:56
mateylolMar 15 08:56
techrights-news"There are prisoners of conscience on Saudi death row, and others arrested as children or charged with non-violent crimes. We fear for every one of them following this brutal display of impunity." https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220313-saudi-arabia-executes-record-81-people-in-one-day-for-terrorism-related-offencesMar 15 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Saudi Arabia executes record 81 people in one day for terrorism-related offencesMar 15 08:57
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techrights-news"The present version of the AIA is a draft written by the European Commission published in 2021. Now the elected European Parliament is seeking commentary as it proposes a revised and hopefully improved version." https://www.wired.com/story/artificial-intelligence-regulation-european-union/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/Mar 15 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Europe Is in Danger of Using the Wrong Definition of AI | WIREDMar 15 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | TechrightsMar 15 08:57
techrights-news“the gap between those who have and do not have access to computers and the Internet” https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/03/what-is-the-digital-divide/Mar 15 08:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | What Is the Digital Divide? - Internet SocietyMar 15 08:58
mateyif i were the judge i have a simple verdict https://www.adrforum.com/DomainDecisions/1980642.htmMar 15 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adrforum.com | NATIONAL ARBITRATION FORUMMar 15 09:02
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mateyall charges would be dismissed as soon as the domains "weOWNfedora.com" and "weownyourcomputer.com" could be registered to ibm.Mar 15 09:02
mateyas that clearly reflects what ibm thinks is true.Mar 15 09:03
techrights-newsCOVID-19 surging in Europe, even in spring. Apathy and false assumption of safety will bite us. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/14/covid-cases-have-surged/Mar 15 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and HospitalisationsMar 15 09:03
techrights-news"But, I’ve been saying this for a while, prices in most areas have not started to come down. In fact, the prices of many of these items are continuing to rise." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/15/more-bad-news-on-inflation/Mar 15 09:04
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mateyid also want to know if wemakefedora.org is directly competing with ibm sales using that domain. its a lot easier to throw out if it isnt.Mar 15 09:05
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techrights-news"Arch and the Web make us feel old, the BBC makes us rather cross, a kernel vulnerability makes us laugh, Mozilla makes us wonder, and KDE makes us happy." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-168/Mar 15 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 168 – Late Night LinuxMar 15 09:06
mateythis isnt like this isnt like 1-800-its-unixMar 15 09:06
techrights-news"“Blowback” can also be applied to U.S. propaganda, particularly the CIA’s “black propaganda” that was designed for an overseas audience" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/14/the-united-states-of-america-victims-of-its-own-disinformation/Mar 15 09:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The United States Of America: Victims Of Its Own Disinformation - CounterPunch.orgMar 15 09:08
mateythat link actually answers my question: Mar 15 09:08
mateyAs to bad faith, Complainant has submitted five articles posted by different volunteers on <wemakefedora.org> in early October 2021 which appear to describe technical subjects and social phenomena in the open-source community (Exhibit 4). None of these articles appear to be asking for money. None of them are asking visitors to abandon Complainant’s Fedora product and use an alternative.Mar 15 09:08
mateythere you goMar 15 09:09
mateyFINDINGS Complainant has failed to establish all the elements entitling it to relief and has brought the Complaint primarily to harass the domain-name holder.Mar 15 09:09
mateyhey heyMar 15 09:09
mateynote this is the same company that controls gcc and gdb. gives you a warm fuzzy feeling... like a house centipede on a bare foot.Mar 15 09:10
mateyof course by "control" i only mean in the sense that github controls any project there-- or in the sense of the gcc steering committee.Mar 15 09:11
mateya nice mirror of ibm gcc https://sr.ht/~sourceware/gcc/Mar 15 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sr.ht | gcc: GNU Compiler CollectionMar 15 09:12
techrights-news"Two of the largest movie and TV streaming sharing sites have had their domain names suspended over the past few days." https://torrentfreak.com/major-streaming-piracy-sites-have-their-domain-names-suspended-220314/Mar 15 09:15
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SomeH4x0rmatey: ^ was I talking to you about it?Mar 15 09:15
techrights-news"YouTube Vanced is an extremely popular Android app that improves the standard YouTube experience with new features including ad-blocking and background play." https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-vanced-app-forced-to-shut-down-for-legal-reasons-220314/Mar 15 09:15
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SomeH4x0rnot exactly, it just removes stupid DRMMar 15 09:16
SomeH4x0rwhere applicableMar 15 09:16
mateymatey: ^ was I talking to you about it? <- SomeH4x0r, i dont know?Mar 15 09:20
SomeH4x0rsuspending domain namesMar 15 09:20
mateyoh, yesMar 15 09:20
mateyactually you wereMar 15 09:20
mateyi was not aware of this action from the ibm death star until today (or at least if i was, i wasnt paying attention until they reached a verdict)Mar 15 09:21
techrights-newsEFF Asks Federal Appellate Court to Re-hear Important Patent Transparency Case https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-asks-federal-appellate-court-re-hear-important-patent-transparency-caseMar 15 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Asks Federal Appellate Court to Re-hear Important Patent Transparency Case | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 15 09:22
mateyfrom the looks of it, ibm failed to convince anyone that pocock hurt anything but their prideMar 15 09:22
mateyat least in the legal sense. hopefully this destroys their reputation as a good company even furtherMar 15 09:23
mateyim not holding onto a lot of hope, i mean this is a company that can literally get away with mass murderMar 15 09:23
mateybut its not a crime to wish for better thingsMar 15 09:23
mateyunless you work for the russian news of courseMar 15 09:24
techrights-news"Without any explanation, the British Supreme Court denied WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange “permission to appeal” a decision by the British High Court." https://thedissenter.org/uk-supreme-court-slams-door-on-assange-appeal/Mar 15 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | UK Supreme Court Slams Door On Assange AppealMar 15 09:24
mateythen its a crimeMar 15 09:24
techrights-newsOnLogic announces Factor 201 Raspberry Pi CM4 industrial PC, Factor 202 controller coming soon • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162554Mar 15 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnLogic announces Factor 201 Raspberry Pi CM4 industrial PC, Factor 202 controller coming soon | Tux MachinesMar 15 09:25
techrights-news6 Best Free and Open Source Lightweight Front-End Frameworks • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162555Mar 15 09:25
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techrights-news"It was only after Poitras teamed up with EFF to sue the government that she was able to see evidence of the government’s six-year campaign of spying on her" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-watching-watchers oh, the old 'EFF' http://techrights.org/2021/11/05/not-the-frontier-anymore/Mar 15 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Watching the Watchers | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 15 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EFF Has Been Hijacked, and Just Like Mozilla and the Linux Foundation It Doesn’t Fight for What It Was Originally Made to Achieve | TechrightsMar 15 09:33
techrights-news#ibm #redhat just another corporate shill in service of Empire, resorting to collective punishment https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-response-war-ukraine see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishmentMar 15 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat’s response to the war in UkraineMar 15 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Collective punishment - WikipediaMar 15 09:35
techrights-newsAs if they punish the war machine in Russia, rather than ordinary citizens (many of whom are brainwashed, some strongly object to the invasion... if they know it is one) https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/03/11/music-industry-russia-exits/Mar 15 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmusicnews.com | Here Are All the Music Industry Companies That Have Left RussiaMar 15 09:36
techrights-newsIRC being IRC, and people using pseudonyms http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140322.html#tMar%2014%2014:51:59Mar 15 09:37
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techrights-newsThis is where taxpayers' money goes... https://www.voanews.com/a/us-pays-2m-a-month-to-protect-pompeo-aide-due-to-iran-threat/6482364.htmlMar 15 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | US Pays $2M a Month to Protect Pompeo, Aide Due to Iran ThreatMar 15 09:38
techrights-newsCAs = MLM, fake security model https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/russia-force-feeds-new-trusted-ca-yeah-right/Mar 15 09:38
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techrights-newsTikTok Sounds used to spread COVID vaccine misinformation: think tank | Arab News ⚓ https://www.arabnews.com/node/1893961/media social control media NOT harmlessMar 15 09:40
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techrights-news"Washington state lawmakers are set to dedicate $1.5 million to removing toxic fluorescent lights from schools and another $125,000 to studying environmental hazards and creating new standards to protect students from exposure to harmful substances." https://www.propublica.org/article/washington-state-budgets-1-6-million-for-study-and-removal-of-toxic-lightsMar 15 09:41
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techrights-news"Pretextual stops are law enforcement at its most shameless." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/lapd-police-commission-enrages-police-union-by-enacting-minor-changes-to-pretextual-stops/Mar 15 09:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LAPD Police Commission Enrages Police Union By Enacting Minor Changes To Pretextual Stops | TechdirtMar 15 09:43
techrights-news"I’ve been writing about quackery and the antivaccine movement for over two decades" https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/03/14/mms-as-a-cure-for-covid-19/ WWW does its thing...Mar 15 09:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | MMS (a.k.a. bleach) as a "cure" for COVID-19 - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCEMar 15 09:44
techrights-newsEveryone should quit paying Starbucks even a nickel https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-union-files-complaint-saying-company-is-cutting-hours-to-union-bust/Mar 15 09:47
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techrights-news"Shenzhen just recently got put on a week-long lockdown." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/14/hackers-beware-shenzhen-is-closing/Mar 15 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackers Beware: Shenzhen Is Closing | HackadayMar 15 09:47
techrights-news"Join us on Wednesday, March 16 at noon Pacific for the Open Source ASICs Hack Chat with Matt Venn!" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/14/open-source-asics-hack-chat-with-matt-venn/Mar 15 09:48
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techrights-news"When you’re a natural telecom monopoly in America you get away with a lot." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/big-isps-avoided-2020-law-banning-predatory-modem-rental-fees-by-simply-calling-them-something-else/Mar 15 09:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Big ISPs Avoided 2020 Law Banning Predatory Modem ‘Rental’ Fees By Simply Calling Them… Something Else | TechdirtMar 15 09:49
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techrights-newsBad to be understocked on tech at the moment https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/14/supply-chain-problems-continue-as-inflation-jumps-in-february/Mar 15 09:52
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techrights-news"Private companies have a lot of people to answer to. When you ask them, they’ll claim its either shareholders or customers that they owe their ultimate duty to." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/corporate-information-wants-to-be-free/Mar 15 09:53
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techrights-newsOil cartel https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/14/there-should-be-consequences-it-ocasio-cortez-slams-big-oil-price-gougingMar 15 09:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'There Should Be Consequences for It': Ocasio-Cortez Slams Big Oil Price GougingMar 15 09:58
DaemonFChttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/us/yonkers-alleged-hate-crime-attack/index.htmlMar 15 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yonkers NY attack: Asian woman stomped on and punched more than 125 times after being called racial slur, police say - CNNMar 15 10:02
DaemonFCSurprised CNN shows her attacker. Surprise, surprise....Mar 15 10:02
DaemonFCDemocrat city, black guy attacking her. Notice any patterns here? It's never Indiana. It's never a white guy.Mar 15 10:03
DaemonFCIt's always some Democrat city.Mar 15 10:03
schestowitz-TRyou are always off topicMar 15 10:03
schestowitz-TRtake it to another channelMar 15 10:03
DaemonFCMr. GAFAM likes to live where people get it.Mar 15 10:04
DaemonFCA boot in the face for being Asian.Mar 15 10:04
DaemonFCLike San Francisco. Yet another reason to live there.... /sarcasmMar 15 10:05
mateyIt's never Indiana. It's never a white guy. <- im sure you dont mean that white people never commit carjackings or hate crimes, because thats hilariousMar 15 10:05
DaemonFCWhy, everywhere else, we're just a bunch of hayseeds who need to be told (by him, naturally), what's right and wrong.Mar 15 10:05
DaemonFC<matey> It's never Indiana. It's never a white guy. <- im sure you dont mean that white people never commit carjackings or hate crimes, because thats hilariousMar 15 10:07
DaemonFCIndiana was the last place to pass a hate crimes law, but.... There was also no pressing need for one as things like this rarely, if ever, happen in the entire state.Mar 15 10:07
DaemonFCThe FBI statistics even show that.Mar 15 10:07
mateyi get it Mar 15 10:07
techrights-news"For years we’ve noted how the U.S. has consistently maintained a fairly pathetic speed definition of “broadband” at the behest of major monopolies" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/washington-state-bill-would-boost-definition-of-broadband-to-100-mbps/Mar 15 10:07
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mateyits the law you think is stupidMar 15 10:08
mateylaws usually are (more often than not)Mar 15 10:08
mateypeople judge them based on their intent more than their effectsMar 15 10:08
DaemonFCWell, the law already allowed for trebling as aggravating factors were present.Mar 15 10:08
DaemonFCIt just wasn't a separate charge of hate crime.Mar 15 10:09
mateyid love to see a study on the effects of hate crime legislationMar 15 10:09
DaemonFCYou just got a higher degree of that offense with more penalties every time the attack ticked another box.Mar 15 10:09
techrights-newsThe latest openwashing salad from IBM Red Hat https://opensource.com/open-organization/22/3/open-history-human-progressMar 15 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open exchange, open doors, open minds: A recipe for global progress | Opensource.comMar 15 10:09
DaemonFCNow, with the reform, I wouldn't be surprised if the police charge Hate Crime less than the multiple aggravations of assault and battery or forcible rape or something.Mar 15 10:10
DaemonFCBecause before, they had no choice in what to present the prosecution.Mar 15 10:10
DaemonFCNow they do.Mar 15 10:10
DaemonFCA hate crimes law that puts the cops in charge. Fantastic.Mar 15 10:10
mateylaws typically do put the cops in chargeMar 15 10:11
mateyits where a lot of the whole thing falls apart reallyMar 15 10:11
techrights-newsbrent_renaud_killed_russia_ukraine_pressMar 15 10:11
techrights-newsbrent_renaud_killed_russia_ukraine_pressMar 15 10:11
techrights-newsDying to inform https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/14/brent_renaud_killed_russia_ukraine_pressMar 15 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Brent Renaud, First U.S. Reporter Killed in Ukraine, Praised for His Humanity & Exposing Horrors of War | Democracy Now!Mar 15 10:11
mateypeople focus on the rules themselves for good reasonMar 15 10:12
mateybut like, chess has rulesMar 15 10:12
DaemonFCHate crime is kind of bullshit anyway.Mar 15 10:12
mateysuppose you kept all the rules chess, right? but instead of tournament judges you brought the police in to handle everythingMar 15 10:13
DaemonFCCriminal: "I see I could go to prison for 20 years for raping you, but since as a Hate Crime it would add a year, I checked the law books, I have decided not to rape you. Carry on!"Mar 15 10:13
mateyin the long run it would be better to just have every woman carry a deadly weaponMar 15 10:14
DaemonFCThat's what I've been saying.Mar 15 10:14
mateyin the short run a lot of people think thats insaneMar 15 10:14
mateyin the long run theyll understandMar 15 10:14
DaemonFCGive each one of them a revolver and lessons and let nature run its course with the rapists.Mar 15 10:14
techrights-news"For a few years now, the Australian government has been seeking to outlaw online anonymity." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/australias-online-safety-commissioner-say-anti-trolling-bill-wont-protect-people-is-mostly-about-enabling-defamation-lawsuits/Mar 15 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australia’s Online Safety Commissioner Say Anti-Trolling Bill Won’t Protect People, Is Mostly About Enabling Defamation Lawsuits | TechdirtMar 15 10:14
mateybut think of the cops, the cant ALL become dare officersMar 15 10:15
DaemonFCYeah, remember when they would drive by your school in a sports car that cost $50,000 (in 1990!) and you'd ask where they got it.Mar 15 10:16
DaemonFCAnd they'd say "We took it from a drug dealer we arrested.".Mar 15 10:16
mateysounds legitMar 15 10:17
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162556Mar 15 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 10:17
mateyof course they got it at auction, anyone else has just as much claim to that vehicle as anyone elseMar 15 10:18
mateyjust like with cam footageMar 15 10:18
kingoffrance join either #boycottnovell-social  or #techpol   matey so i can tell you how chess changed with the times :DMar 15 10:18
mateykingoffrance omg Mar 15 10:18
mateyhehe, do itMar 15 10:18
techrights-news"Wars rage, countless humans suffer, the rich get richer, life goes on" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/14/life-goes-on-right/Mar 15 10:19
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matey/me hopes the police never ruin chess Mar 15 10:19
mateyi draw the line at sting doing a bad album with murray headMar 15 10:19
kingoffrancei tried :D  "but like, chess has rules"  you'd be surprised.   i found the other day in a random filing cabinet from a thrift store..."chessmaster 4000 turbo" instruction book.  the queen was a counselor, but then virgin had to be powerful.  bishop was an elephant, somewhere else i read a church might've demanded "representation".   even says the horse was arabic -- medieval switched to knight.    so "horsie" is actually correct lolMar 15 10:19
kingoffranceim sure there's moreMar 15 10:20
mateyokay im pretty sure i remember chessmaster 3000Mar 15 10:20
mateyand i dont think video game versions count, but maybe youre rightMar 15 10:20
kingoffrancei dont know, it must've been early, talks about human versus computer, all the trials ...Mar 15 10:21
kingoffrancei mean the name they were trying to say they were the most advanced at the time or whateverMar 15 10:21
kingoffrance"early" as in i dont know anything, but guessing modern engines are more powerfulMar 15 10:22
mateyi think the dos-based chess games were more flash than raw game powerMar 15 10:22
mateybut im no expertMar 15 10:22
kingoffrancethe queen surprised me...counsellor was weakMar 15 10:22
mateymy interest in chess is barely academic, let alone practicalMar 15 10:22
mateyover the years ive been more interested in dos than chessMar 15 10:23
kingoffrancei was going to ask (nothing personal) what kind of stuff you are into?  software? gaming? programming?  web stuff ? sysadmin?Mar 15 10:23
techrights-news"About the only positive thing you can say about famed play/movie writer David Mamet deciding to file an amicus brief in support of Texas in that state’s appeal of a district court correctly tossing the state’s social media content moderation bill as unconstitutional is…" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/fucking-hell-david-mamet-files-the-most-pointless-silly-amicus-brief-in-texas-content-moderation-appeal/Mar 15 10:23
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mateytechnically softwareMar 15 10:24
mateybut the fsf doesnt get hardware (within reason)Mar 15 10:24
mateyit needs to hear the hardware people, but that will destroy ryf (good riddance)Mar 15 10:24
mateyryf was a good ideaMar 15 10:24
techrights-newsImagine a US president caring about health and environment as much as he cares about sending weapons to other countriesMar 15 10:24
mateyim not a hardware person. im a software person that understands how important hardware isMar 15 10:24
mateyand its only going to become more important. and not "ten years from now" which rms literally said the other dayMar 15 10:25
mateyokay literally it was a couple weeks ago, but literally he said "ten years from now"Mar 15 10:25
schestowitz-TRhardware has lots of software in it these daysMar 15 10:25
schestowitz-TRthat cannot be ignoredMar 15 10:25
schestowitz-TRalso in the context of software patentsMar 15 10:25
schestowitz-TRit has long been used as a Trojan horseMar 15 10:26
mateythe thing is, the fsfs entire picture is based on a caricature of years ago, neither the present nor realityMar 15 10:26
mateyits a self-serving caricature that props up decisions they made long agoMar 15 10:26
mateyits not even the biggest problem they have. just one of many that wont go away with make believeMar 15 10:27
mateyor marketing, which is pretty closeMar 15 10:27
techrights-news"This idea is closely linked to modernisation theory, which was popularised as part of American post-WWII rhetoric." Subtler form of racism or elitism or supremacist ideology. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/14/re-thinking-the-idea-of-developing-countries/Mar 15 10:28
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DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/2022/03/14/1086390817/new-york-d-c-police-open-joint-investigation-into-recent-shootings-of-homeless-mMar 15 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | NYC, D.C. mayors urge homeless to seek shelter after shootings : NPRMar 15 10:31
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: FFS!Mar 15 10:31
schestowitz-TRGTFO or move to another channelMar 15 10:32
schestowitz-TRstop interjecting this stuff hereMar 15 10:32
schestowitz-TRif you want to start cancel culture keg-powder, do it in another network Mar 15 10:32
schestowitz-TRthat's not helping usMar 15 10:32
DaemonFCMost people gain absolutely nothing from living in a large city. Mar 15 10:33
mateythe point of cancel culture is to get people to self-censorMar 15 10:33
DaemonFCStallman tries to promote it as a cure all for climate change.Mar 15 10:33
schestowitz-TRthis is a channel on techMar 15 10:33
mateyinitially, like with stallman, its to censor directlyMar 15 10:33
schestowitz-TRand civil rights related to thatMar 15 10:33
mateybut thats not sustainable. the transition to self-censorship is requiredMar 15 10:34
schestowitz-TRit's not a place to start demonising black americansMar 15 10:34
schestowitz-TRwhich is what DaemonFC is trying to doMar 15 10:34
mateyim not sure where his obsession with minorities comes fromMar 15 10:34
DaemonFCI was pointing out that two more Democrat paradises have a serial killer running around murdering homeless people.Mar 15 10:34
schestowitz-TRit doesn't matterMar 15 10:34
schestowitz-TRit's off topicMar 15 10:34
DaemonFCOn top of all the other "reasons to live there".Mar 15 10:34
schestowitz-TRand it gives ammo to people who try to demonise usMar 15 10:34
DaemonFCStallman doesn't "get it" That there's no gain to be had by living in a city. You get depression, high taxes, and crime.Mar 15 10:35
mateyits the second complaint i was addressingMar 15 10:35
DaemonFCCan't even leave your house in broad daylight.Mar 15 10:35
mateykowtowing to the cancel brigades wont protect youMar 15 10:35
mateythe off topic complaint i have no quarrel withMar 15 10:35
schestowitz-TRwe have many channel;sMar 15 10:36
schestowitz-TRhe's already in some of themMar 15 10:36
schestowitz-TRbut he wants more audienceMar 15 10:36
schestowitz-TRfor the scapegoatingMar 15 10:36
mateyim still not sure what his objective isMar 15 10:36
DaemonFCSouth Chicago was just eery.Mar 15 10:36
mateysome of his critiques of law are reasonable. i dont share his views on minoritiesMar 15 10:36
DaemonFCTHey build parks, there should be kids playing there. There's no kids playing there. It's because their parents know what will happen to them there.Mar 15 10:36
mateyStallman doesn't "get it" That there's no gain to be had by living in a city. You get depression, high taxes, and crime. <- im not sure this sums up a cityMar 15 10:37
mateyin the past, many people loved living in a city (others still do)Mar 15 10:37
DaemonFCOnce you get past a certain size of city, 20,000-30,000 people or so, violent crime starts rising exponentially.Mar 15 10:37
mateyim not sure stallmans opinions on where to live arent deeply affected by his tendency to travel all over the worldMar 15 10:37
DaemonFCThere's also more people like John or Mr. GULAG living there for the anonymity while they carry out their perversions.Mar 15 10:38
mateyon the one hand it should give more perspective. on the other hand, hes not "stuck" anywhere per seMar 15 10:38
mateywhen you can just piss off to south america like he does, its hard to say if he really understands boston. but he might.Mar 15 10:38
mateyjohn?Mar 15 10:38
DaemonFCMy ex. Big cities appeal to perverts and criminals because they figure there's anonymity.Mar 15 10:39
DaemonFCThey can do what they want and then quickly fade back into the crowd.Mar 15 10:39
DaemonFCOf course, it's not entirely true (lots of cameras, for example).Mar 15 10:40
mateyi think rurals have their share of perverts and criminals as well thoughMar 15 10:40
DaemonFCIronically, you have perverts and criminals moving to a big city with lots of surveillance to become anonymous.Mar 15 10:40
mateythat is ironicMar 15 10:40
mateyit may even say a lot about surveillanceMar 15 10:40
mateythe uk has cameras up every arse, the obvious result being that crime has endedMar 15 10:41
mateyso we know it worksMar 15 10:41
DaemonFCIt works sometimes in Chicago.Mar 15 10:41
mateyhow oftenMar 15 10:41
DaemonFCThose license plate readers are catching some for now.Mar 15 10:41
mateyshould be illegal, its not constitutional to track everyone that wayMar 15 10:42
DaemonFCThey're always recording though.Mar 15 10:42
DaemonFCThey've caught people due to recordings that the plate readers made and saved that were not in a car.Mar 15 10:42
mateyits not constitutional in britain either, at least not when they were part of the euMar 15 10:42
DaemonFCSo we know they're just cameras that ALSO record plate numbers.Mar 15 10:42
mateysneakyMar 15 10:42
mateythe thing about constituions is that theyre a formal list of things the government isnt allowed to do but they do anywayMar 15 10:43
DaemonFCWell, they say it's fine because the license plate scanners can't see anything a cop couldn't.Mar 15 10:43
mateyit still works sometimes, pocock gets to keep his url.Mar 15 10:44
DaemonFCIf a cop was a computer that could just sit there all day and process every single plate that went by.Mar 15 10:44
mateyWell, they say it's fine because the license plate scanners can't see anything a cop couldn't. <- nothing beats constitutional protection like a straw man!Mar 15 10:44
mateyscalia was a genius that wayMar 15 10:44
mateyhe went about the constitution like a baptist preacher goes about the bibleMar 15 10:45
kingoffrance^^^^^^^^ he literally was full "formalism"Mar 15 10:45
mateyreally literally and really stupidly, and in a way that was difficult enough for people to argue with unless they had any senseMar 15 10:45
matey"the letter of the law killeth" said mother theresa, and scalia enjoyed stabbing the constitution to bitsMar 15 10:46
DaemonFCGrindr doesn't work for people like John in smaller cities. Because you see the same people on it all the time.Mar 15 10:46
DaemonFCAnd you probably know a lot of them.Mar 15 10:46
DaemonFCLooking back, I'm almost certain that's why he insisted on moving to Chicago.Mar 15 10:46
mateylike bill gates with "what do you mean by 'abridging'"Mar 15 10:47
mateyscrutinise each individual word until the text loses all meaningMar 15 10:47
mateyalso put the text on the "meaningless until proven to have meaning" footingMar 15 10:47
matey"how can we be sure they meant that!"Mar 15 10:47
mateyhistorians might know, but their testimony doesnt count, all we have is the words before usMar 15 10:48
matey Grindr doesn't work for people like John in smaller cities. Because you see the same people on it all the time. <- sounds like it would chafeMar 15 10:48
mateyyou cant make it expand to larger areas?Mar 15 10:49
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matey"i wonder what the scene is like in aurora"Mar 15 10:49
DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/14/1086345393/strokes-young-people-hailey-bieberMar 15 10:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | What you need to know about strokes and young people : Shots - Health News : NPRMar 15 10:49
DaemonFC"More young people are having strokes"Mar 15 10:49
DaemonFCLots of articles like this lately.Mar 15 10:50
DaemonFCI wonder if it has something to do with the COVID shots.Mar 15 10:50
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techrights-newsProprietary, Fake Security, and Openwashing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162557Mar 15 10:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 15 10:51
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mateyeither way you cant read it without javascriptMar 15 10:52
mateyyou just get a form telling you that npr cares about things its legally required to care about, almost as if to say "thats why we are forcing you to use a browser with js enabled"Mar 15 10:53
mateywhich isnt true, but thats nprMar 15 10:54
mateystay classy people magazineMar 15 10:57
DaemonFChttps://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/01/ubuntu-22-04-release-featuresMar 15 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 22.04 Release Date & New Features - OMG! Ubuntu!Mar 15 10:57
mateypeople.com/health/justin-bieber-is-probably-more-traumatized-than-hailey-bieberMar 15 10:57
mateytheir take on itMar 15 10:57
mateyits probably trueMar 15 10:57
DaemonFCUbuntu is back to hacking together a variant of GNOME from mismatching pieces.Mar 15 10:58
DaemonFCI'm sure that goes well.Mar 15 10:58
mateyfunny how close that is to what my guess the story would be aboutMar 15 10:58
matey"ubuntu: it still sucks"Mar 15 10:58
mateygnome, now with more features for cancelling peopleMar 15 10:58
mateyi predict that in the next few years, the fsf (or libreplanet) will offer a new tool similar to libre.jsMar 15 10:59
mateybut instead of using it to complain to website owners about non-free javascript, it will simply report peoples tweets and emails to their boss with "one-click" convenienceMar 15 11:00
mateywhich probably already exists, the novelty being that the fsf endorses it.Mar 15 11:00
mateythe riaa had a form for this in the days of the napster inquisitionMar 15 11:00
mateyif your children were using napster without you being aware, and you got one of their demands to settle for $10,000Mar 15 11:01
mateythey would offer you a form so you could implicate your children insteadMar 15 11:01
mateyim not sure what thats supposed to do, other than provide evidence that you agree with the position of the complainant?Mar 15 11:01
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mateyis there a lesser fee demanded then?Mar 15 11:02
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DaemonFCIt's better to never talk to the other side without your attorney.Mar 15 11:03
mateyexactlyMar 15 11:04
DaemonFCPeople who blamed their kids were admitting that their internet connection was used to share MP3s.Mar 15 11:04
mateyand for what its worth, that was actually a "small clot with stroke-like symptoms"Mar 15 11:04
DaemonFCThey're responsible for what their children do.Mar 15 11:04
XRevan86Аriadne shared https://nitter.eu/oneunderscore__/status/1503434867614228480 , and… I had no idea that Russian propaganda took this idea from conspirologists.Mar 15 11:05
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XRevan86I was wondering how they're managing to produce so much bonkers nonsense. Turns out, they're appropriating other's work.Mar 15 11:05
matey"i still dont understand what the theory isMar 15 11:06
XRevan86Putin's propaganda has been using that tactic for many years, but it never occured to me that they're doing this even when making international claims.Mar 15 11:07
mateyits a fact that labs exist. it seems likely that some produce at least research into bioweaponsMar 15 11:07
mateywhats the conspiracy theory?Mar 15 11:07
XRevan86"it seems likely that some produce at least research into bioweapons" <- I think ye're imagining some kind of top-notch mega facility.Mar 15 11:08
mateynot at allMar 15 11:08
mateya fridge and some test tubes and some people in white coatsMar 15 11:08
mateymaybe even an office buildingMar 15 11:09
XRevan86https://youtu.be/LKSTmcvEdoU even this is a biolabMar 15 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LKSTmcvEdoUMar 15 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | How one British laboratory protects the world's chocolate - InvidiousMar 15 11:09
mateyanything down to and not including a meth lab.Mar 15 11:09
mateyat least one guard outside. at most times. hopefully.Mar 15 11:09
XRevan86matey: Why would there be anything even close to research into bioweapons? In Ukraine of all places.Mar 15 11:09
mateyoh, in ukraine? heheheheMar 15 11:10
mateyis that the theory? Mar 15 11:10
mateyi meant like in chinaMar 15 11:10
XRevan86matey: Oh, ye misunderstood the whole premise, now it makes sense :)Mar 15 11:10
mateyopenly-- i didnt know the premise, i was curiousMar 15 11:10
mateyi expect global superpowers to work on such thingsMar 15 11:10
mateymaybe ukraine has a hobby, but they cant even refine their own gas reserves you know? seems kind of ambitiousMar 15 11:11
XRevan86matey: Boy ye're in for a treat.Mar 15 11:11
XRevan86https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/11/russia-biological-weapon-claim-us-un-ukraine-bio-labs-explainerMar 15 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | What are Russia’s biological weapons claims and what’s actually happening? | United Nations | The GuardianMar 15 11:11
mateylike that kid who built a reactor out of smoke detectorsMar 15 11:11
mateypfft, everyone knows ukraine is the world leader in biological weaponsMar 15 11:11
mateythats why im surprised they didnt take over the eu soonerMar 15 11:12
XRevan86matey: Also in nuclear weapon developmentMar 15 11:12
mateythe president of ukraine developers all of this from his secret lair in the middle of a volcaynooMar 15 11:12
XRevan86It's practically a super-power.Mar 15 11:12
mateythe big secret to the success of ukraines nuclear weapons programme is they figured out how to detonate radioactive isotypes using UNREFINED natural gas reservesMar 15 11:13
mateybecause they arent technically equipped to refine natural gas. but plutonium? piece of (yellow) cake!Mar 15 11:14
XRevan86matey: Maybe аctivelow can explain to us exactly how they're doing that :)Mar 15 11:15
XRevan86He's the local expert.Mar 15 11:15
mateyif i wanted to pick on him, id joke about using gpus as high-speed switchesMar 15 11:15
mateybut honestly what he says about gnu/linux is interestingMar 15 11:16
mateyhis politics... Mar 15 11:16
mateyhes clearly to the right of daemonfcMar 15 11:16
mateyim not sure where daemonfc actually is, but i know that no matter what, activelow is clearly to the right of himMar 15 11:16
DaemonFC<matey> im not sure where daemonfc actually isMar 15 11:17
DaemonFCSick of government, honestly.Mar 15 11:17
mateydont blame you for thatMar 15 11:17
DaemonFCThey did absolutely nothing to stop or contain COVID-19 and now they pretend it's gone away entirely.Mar 15 11:17
DaemonFCExcept that you "need more shots".Mar 15 11:18
mateyif they want to increase voter registration, all they have to do is put "no government" on the ballotMar 15 11:18
XRevan86matey: When I classify someone as mentally ill I stop at attempting to dig further.Mar 15 11:18
DaemonFCAnd that's going on in the US, UK, and Germany.Mar 15 11:18
mateyit doesnt work that way, except rhetorically of courseMar 15 11:18
DaemonFCSo it may be one thing that schestowitz-TR and activelow agree with me about.Mar 15 11:18
mateyit does SORT of work that way, just not through that process exactlyMar 15 11:18
DaemonFCBut 20 years ago I was smart enough to say "Why are these assholes in charge of anything. It's clear they don't know what they're doing and they're corrupt.".Mar 15 11:19
matey<XRevan86> matey: When I classify someone as mentally ill I stop at attempting to dig further. <- luxuryMar 15 11:19
mateyi start from the point of view that everyone is insane, because it explains everythingMar 15 11:19
matey"Why are these assholes in charge of anything. It's clear they don't know what they're doing and they're corrupt.". <- thats why theyre in chargeMar 15 11:20
XRevan86matey: Not really, let's just say my bar is very low, and even then he managed to not pass.Mar 15 11:20
mateyim not sure youre being fair though. what if hes some kind of nazi savant?Mar 15 11:21
mateyokay maybe "unfair" is the wrong word. inaccurate?Mar 15 11:21
mateywhat i really mean is that whatever explains him may not be fair to call mental illness in others, even if it is in one instanceMar 15 11:23
XRevan86matey: His counterproductive endeavours are respected by some and politics are a complicated topic, so instead just look at what he's writing about (human speech) languages.Mar 15 11:23
mateydo you have a rough example? if not, ill just watch for what youre talking about.Mar 15 11:23
XRevan86No one in their right mind would come to conclusions like that, and he's got a lot of them.Mar 15 11:24
mateymmhmmMar 15 11:24
mateyi pay more attention to his "counterproductive endeavours" which im not certain are entirelyMar 15 11:24
mateysome of the decisions hes made are counterproductive without questionMar 15 11:24
mateyi wish more people paid attention to the level of dependency hell thats being createdMar 15 11:24
mateyand where that might be goingMar 15 11:25
mateyalso wish he published his work so we could be sure he isnt making it upMar 15 11:25
XRevan86matey: That's why they're respected. But I can guarantee his efforts are going nowhere.Mar 15 11:25
mateyinstead, the only way to verify his experiments is to recreate them from scratchMar 15 11:25
mateyBut I can guarantee his efforts are going nowhere. <- i think most if not all people admiring his work (if its not a farce) probably already realise thatMar 15 11:26
DaemonFCLine up for Russian shot. Is good. Make you smart like bear.Mar 15 11:26
mateyhes not creating a product, hes not publishing researchMar 15 11:26
DaemonFCNothing bad ever happen from Russian injection.Mar 15 11:26
mateyhes either going to the ends of the earth for something only he can make proper use ofMar 15 11:26
mateyor he wants us to think he isMar 15 11:26
XRevan86matey: Regarding languages, if ye have the history, look up words "chaos" and "slime".Mar 15 11:28
mateyi dont, but i will at some pointMar 15 11:28
mateyill be sure to check on those, cheersMar 15 11:28
XRevan86That'll lead to the last discussion on the topic when he made quite a bunch of peculiar statements.Mar 15 11:29
mateymaybe "inaccurate" was the wrong word too.Mar 15 11:30
XRevan86matey: The best part was probably that "Titan" comes from the word "tit", related to "the origin of the universe, melked from a cows tit, the Audhumbla, or Goat Heidrun" (I wish Conversations had better search functionality).Mar 15 11:31
matey"clash of the tits" has surely already been used in a context that cant be posted hereMar 15 11:33
XRevan86matey: It's too bizarre to paraphrase, and search sucks.Mar 15 11:33
mateyim no longer sceptical of what youre saying anyway. maybe youre right and maybe youre wrong, but im convinced you most likely have a point.Mar 15 11:33
matey/me looks it upMar 15 11:37
mateyAudhumla is the divine cow whose milk made up the four rivers that nourished Ymir. She sustained herself by licking the salty ice. Audhumla existed in Ginnungagap before the begining of the world, and was the first creature. She was born from the mists created when the warm winds of the south warmed the northern ice fields.Mar 15 11:37
mateybut its the etymological argument you take issue with, yes?Mar 15 11:37
XRevan86matey: Naturally. All his etymologies are completely fictitious and German.Mar 15 11:37
XRevan86For some reason people like him always trace everything to their home language.Mar 15 11:38
mateynationalistic self-serving pro-german ancient symbolismMar 15 11:38
mateyand probably not for the first time in history...Mar 15 11:38
XRevan86If he were Russian, he'd be tracing everything to Russian.Mar 15 11:39
mateyof courseMar 15 11:39
XRevan86I certainly know of quite a bunch of people like him.Mar 15 11:39
mateythere are no false friends, only foreign enemiesMar 15 11:39
mateyim sorry to hear youve been collecting themMar 15 11:39
XRevan86I personally know only one.Mar 15 11:40
mateybut all this begs the questionMar 15 11:41
mateyis nationalism really a mental illness per se, or just REALLY stupid politics?Mar 15 11:41
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XRevan86matey: "Nationalism" is a very broad term, and I don't think I can brush all of it under the same umbrella judgement.Mar 15 11:42
mateyat least youre setting a good exampleMar 15 11:42
mateyi dont think we should necessarily be as broad as that eitherMar 15 11:43
mateyi mean i dont think theres any problem at all if someone is for example, proud to be from france, or even a particular region within itMar 15 11:43
mateyunless every political decision they ever make is in service of this fact solely, which is how it works for a bunch of peopleMar 15 11:44
kingoffranceim sure someone has a fertile croissant theoryMar 15 11:44
mateywhen your croissants become fertile its time to throw them away and get new onesMar 15 11:44
XRevan86matey: "Stupid politics" of the kind ye have in mind are called "populism" by the way :)Mar 15 11:45
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XRevan86Very often nationalist in nature, albeit not completely necessarily.Mar 15 11:45
mateyXRevan86: we just agreed that nationalism is too broad a term, and now you give me a broader oneMar 15 11:46
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mateythough the combination of nationalism and populism would be smallerMar 15 11:46
XRevan86matey: Well it is broad, but it encompasses everything that is wrong with public politics.Mar 15 11:46
XRevan86Right.Mar 15 11:47
mateyi like the anti-elitist partsMar 15 11:47
mateyits just that populism is known to suck really hard at being anti-elitistMar 15 11:47
mateybecause it sucks really hard at figuring out where the elitism isMar 15 11:48
XRevan86Populism is practically by definition bad at actually delivering the solution for the root problem.Mar 15 11:48
mateyits like when medicine skipped diagnosis mostly and just went for the jar of leechesMar 15 11:48
matey"what the hell, it cant hurt"Mar 15 11:48
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mateyPopulism is practically by definition bad at actually delivering the solution for the root problem. <- the whole idea of scapegoating is to get the cause wrong, while thinking its rightMar 15 11:49
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mateyand if youre german and nationlist, its not too hard to figure out that the problem is all other countriesMar 15 11:50
mateyand thatll helpMar 15 11:50
matey"mr garrison, every year you tell us to get rid of all the mexicans, and every year we tell you 'no'."Mar 15 11:53
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XRevan86In disappointed in some people I know that actually believed the biolab conspiracy, just because they were not willing to admit to themselves that the state of affairs in the Russian government is that bad.Mar 15 11:54
mateythe attachment some people have to the wrong idea would be nothing short of heroic, if it werent based on sheer cowardiceMar 15 11:55
mateyim impressed that the russian propaganda is so bad that russian journalists are recreating scenes from daemonfcs favourite sci-fi (which im a fan of as well)Mar 15 11:58
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XRevan86matey: Which scene?Mar 15 12:00
mateywow, babylon 5 is coming back in 2023, but without mira furlan its only going to be babylon 4 1/2Mar 15 12:00
XRevan86I'm not exactly a fan of Star Trek, but I've seen a lot of it :)Mar 15 12:00
mateyshes far from the only actor goneMar 15 12:00
XRevan86Babylon 5 is being rebootedMar 15 12:01
mateyyesMar 15 12:01
XRevan86Is some of the cast coming back?Mar 15 12:01
mateytheyre almost all deadMar 15 12:01
XRevan86Makes sense.Mar 15 12:01
mateylando, garibaldi, delennMar 15 12:01
mateyi was heartbroken about mira furlanMar 15 12:01
mateyshes more amazing than anyone from star trekMar 15 12:02
mateycroatian i thinkMar 15 12:02
XRevan86I really-really like the Season 1 cast.Mar 15 12:02
mateyyeah but the acting on season 1 was as stiff as a new pair of bootsMar 15 12:02
mateystill if this is about the captain, i think we all agreeMar 15 12:03
XRevan86True, I said it like that because Sinclair > SheridanMar 15 12:03
mateyof course Mar 15 12:03
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mateyi mean i actually watched scarecrow and mrs king when it was onMar 15 12:03
mateysheridan was one of the main charactersMar 15 12:03
mateythey brought him on because they had to, not because it was idealMar 15 12:03
mateyi didnt think he was crap thoughMar 15 12:04
XRevan86He is adequate.Mar 15 12:04
XRevan86But Michael O'Hare was perfect.Mar 15 12:04
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mateyno argument thereMar 15 12:04
mateybut to answer your question, when the isn studio was being stormed by troopsMar 15 12:04
mateyone of the top guys on the team came to the camera with a microphone to explain that theyd been forced to lie for some timeMar 15 12:05
mateythen there were ROCKS! (junkball reference) and you know the restMar 15 12:05
mateyim pretty sure the ROCKS were actually pieces of studio, but close enoughMar 15 12:06
mateythere used to be more clips of b5 on youtubeMar 15 12:07
XRevan86matey: Sounds like Season 4Mar 15 12:07
mateyi used to own the first 5 seasons but im pretty sure i watched the scene on youtube as wellMar 15 12:08
mateyyeah it does, im sure i can find the episodeMar 15 12:08
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DaemonFCCNN: The world is being bombed to shit while inflation is through the roof.Mar 15 12:13
DaemonFCHere's a pizza oven you can buy on Amazon!Mar 15 12:13
mateyXRevan86 season 3, episode 10Mar 15 12:15
mateyThe news network ISN, which has avoided broadcasting material critical of Clark, reports that the Proxima III and Orion VII colonies have seceded from the Earth Alliance. The television station is raided by Earth Alliance forces, terminating their broadcast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severed_DreamsMar 15 12:15
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activelowXRevan86: "Crimea's existence violating the Budapest Memorandum is a new take to me" -> WRONG. It is the military installations with nuclear capabilities and carriers which potentially violates the Budapest memorandum.Mar 15 12:16
activelowfurthermore, i raise questions about the interference of Westinghouse Electric (fiddling with nuclear facilities), ExxonMobile, Burisma in UkraineMar 15 12:17
XRevan86activelow: Except it's a Putin *assumption* that Ukraine would've changed anything regarding that.Mar 15 12:17
XRevan86"oh no, yet another revolution, this time they'll for sure screw up our fleet"Mar 15 12:17
mateyim not clear on whether activelow denies the right of ukraine to invite ExxonMobile there (instead of a russian contractor)Mar 15 12:18
mateyim certainly not saying this as an exxon fanMar 15 12:19
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DaemonFCJMS is Russian.Mar 15 12:29
DaemonFCIt stands to reason he modeled the whole takeover of Earth by Clark and Propaganda ISN after the sort of things that happened in the Soviet Union.Mar 15 12:29
DaemonFCBabylon 5 wouldn't have survived another round of fighting had the Minbari not showed up with Delenn at the end of that episode.Mar 15 12:30
mateytheres no questionMar 15 12:30
DaemonFCThe first wave of the attack took out one of the two EAS destroyers that had defected and badly damaged the station.Mar 15 12:30
mateyive watched it a few timesMar 15 12:31
mateythe episode i was talking about won a hugo, beating out star trek first contact in the same categoryMar 15 12:31
DaemonFCClark's plan probably figured on this. The first wave goes in and softens them up and the next wave captures or destroys them.Mar 15 12:31
DaemonFCBut the interesting thing is that he was in cahoots with the Shadows.Mar 15 12:32
DaemonFCSo why not have them take care of B5 at this point?Mar 15 12:32
mateyif more people read about the rise of stalin they might think twice about repeating a number of the same mistakesMar 15 12:32
mateythe shadows (and the vorlons) prefer to work quietly and through other peopleMar 15 12:32
DaemonFCIt's established that the Shadows are aware of the White Stars and they are also aware that B4 went back in time 1,000 years.Mar 15 12:32
mateythey dont do war when they can do proxy warMar 15 12:33
DaemonFCThey really should be more apprehensive of the Minbari and B5 and take immediate action to eliminate it.Mar 15 12:33
mateytheres another important thing to point outMar 15 12:33
mateywhich is that i always thought trek plotlines were pretty tightMar 15 12:33
DaemonFCWell, Londo kept calling on the Shadows and they practically won the Centauri war against the Narn.Mar 15 12:33
mateyuntil i found people really good at ripping apart plotholesMar 15 12:33
DaemonFCThat would have gone on forever with inconclusive results without Shadow intervention.Mar 15 12:34
mateymy favourite trek ship cant even dock! (but it does anyway)Mar 15 12:34
mateyoh i didnt say they wont interveneMar 15 12:34
DaemonFCThe Narn seemed to be at least as technologically developed as the Centauri and with about as large of a military.Mar 15 12:34
mateyjust that they prefer war THROUGH younger racesMar 15 12:34
mateythe volons tooMar 15 12:34
mateyvorlons-- the whole point of the younger races (for them) was to win their war for themMar 15 12:35
DaemonFCAt the end, the Shadows and Vorlons were going to have an all out direct confrontation.Mar 15 12:35
DaemonFCUntil one of them was completely destroyed.Mar 15 12:35
mateywhich is an old trope: the old send the young to die for their warsMar 15 12:35
mateyyeah with the planet destroyers Mar 15 12:35
DaemonFCWould it not have been easier to sit back and watch them kick each other's asses and then move in to mop up what was left?Mar 15 12:36
mateythey got impatient.Mar 15 12:36
DaemonFCIt was a big risk to move in with most of both fleets intact.Mar 15 12:36
mateyits really that simpleMar 15 12:36
mateyyou cant even blame jms for it, as its a theme in real warsMar 15 12:36
DaemonFCThe White Stars could have probably finished off whatever was left of whichever side "won".Mar 15 12:37
DaemonFCBecause "winning" would still mean losing the majority of their fleet.Mar 15 12:37
mateyyou think they could have fought the vorlons?Mar 15 12:37
DaemonFCThey were successful in destroying that listening outpost.Mar 15 12:37
DaemonFCPlus, they still had nuclear weapons hidden in the asteroid field.Mar 15 12:38
mateyas i recall, the turning point was when ivanova started recruited older racesMar 15 12:38
mateybecause they had better ships and knowledge of the vorlons and shadowsMar 15 12:38
DaemonFCIt turned out later on that Clark had indeed managed to get his hands on advanced Shadow tech.Mar 15 12:38
DaemonFCProbably from the dig on Mars.Mar 15 12:39
mateyrightMar 15 12:39
mateyi love the show more than almost any other, but im not sure where youre going with thisMar 15 12:39
DaemonFCThe White Stars had to fight the Shadow-enhanced Omega destroyer fleet. Those were using beam weapons similar to the Shadows.Mar 15 12:39
DaemonFCThey could destroy an enemy vessel with one hit, but it seemed like the tracking sensors were not Shadow-derived.Mar 15 12:40
mateyi thought their beam weapons were more like the vorlon planet destroyerMar 15 12:40
DaemonFCBecause they can miss.Mar 15 12:40
mateyand the shadows used telepaths for targetingMar 15 12:40
mateywhich pissed off bester because they got his girlfriendMar 15 12:41
DaemonFCIt was the Psi Corps that handed her over.Mar 15 12:41
DaemonFCAnd modified her to where it's unlikely she would ever recover.Mar 15 12:41
mateyand then she turned the medlab into a smart homeMar 15 12:41
DaemonFCWell, Sheridan slipped them onto the destroyers waiting at Mars. They integrate into the nearest computer system and they really fuck it up if it's not a Shadow system.Mar 15 12:42
mateyi remember thatMar 15 12:42
mateyThe White Stars had to fight the Shadow-enhanced Omega destroyer fleet. Those were using beam weapons similar to the Shadows. <- i parsed this incorrectly the first time. got you now.Mar 15 12:45
mateyi really wish i could watch all that againMar 15 12:45
mateyi no longer have a dvd player or the dvdsMar 15 12:45
mateyand i dont do streamingMar 15 12:45
mateygiven enough time i may pirate the whole series someday, but i dont do a lot of that eitherMar 15 12:46
techrights-newsLibrem 5 First Impression • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162561Mar 15 13:02
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techrights-newsArch Linux turns 20: Small, simple, great documentation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162480#comment-33067Mar 15 13:08
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techrights-newsIPFire 2.27 - Core Update 165 is available for testing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162562Mar 15 13:08
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techrights-newsTop 5 Best Simulation Games for Linux: Live Out Another Life • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162563Mar 15 13:08
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techrights-newsThe C4C Linux Distro Rises from the Grave • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162564Mar 15 13:11
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techrights-newsSolène: "Let me present you my latest project: home-impermanence, under this name is a reference to the NixOS community project impermanence. The name may not be obvious about what it is doing, let me explain." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-impermanence.gmiMar 15 13:13
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techrights-news"I've since been a tech addict interested in coding and admin stuff. I embrace the KISS principle, i guess that's why i'm so excited about gemini." gemini://en.gmn.clttr.info/Mar 15 13:14
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techrights-news"I'll have to look into programming it (which was the main reason I was interested in it in the first place) and also check out some community-made games. Maybe the community will have figured out how to make more legitimately playable games." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-02-23.gmiMar 15 13:16
techrights-news"Yes I have used SMS-based one time passwords historically on some sites but such setups are problematic and not much of a security improvement. Some argue they make things worse because the false sense of security stops people using higher quality passwords. Here are just a couple of articles that scratch the surface of this topic." gemini://ruario.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-03-09_MFA-involving-TOTP.gmiMar 15 13:18
techrights-news"Valve has released the latest small update for the Steam Deck to fix up a couple of nuisances, a few of which were definitely annoying me." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-update-fixes-buying-games-for-some-touch-input-on-digital-keyboard-themeMar 15 13:19
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techrights-news"While they're now pretty late on it, Double Fine say that the Linux and macOS dedicated builds of Psychonauts 2 are still actually on the way." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/double-fine-say-psychonauts-2-for-linux-and-macos-still-comingMar 15 13:19
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techrights-newsNews publishers furnish their details voluntarily, MIB claims in RTI Appeal ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/rule-18-it-rules-rti-appeal/Mar 15 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | News publishers furnish their details voluntarily, MIB claims in RTI AppealMar 15 13:22
techrights-newsPhoronix pushing Microsoft again, while other (actual) Linux sites rightly ignore this rubbish https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-CBL-Mariner-March-22 Larabel sold us out...Mar 15 13:23
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techrights-news"We're nowhere close to even having Vulkan 1.0 working yet, there's no reason to get too excited about 1.1. It just means piles more test crashes for features we're claiming to support but don't. If we want to enable more tests, we can turn on the extensions for those features once we actually have them working." https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=a35e721162bb7dad087e75fd07fec08bc635dc96Mar 15 13:23
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techrights-newsRed Hat (IBM) reduced to mindless clouds of buzzwords https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/digital-transformation-4-pillars-successMar 15 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 4 pillars for success | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 15 13:26
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DaemonFC<matey> given enough time i may pirate the whole series someday, but i dont do a lot of that eitherMar 15 13:27
DaemonFCHBO "remastered" it, but it didn't do a great job of it.Mar 15 13:27
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techrights-newsThis is the same IBM that was forcing staff to stop working from home and also forced staff working from home to get an experimental vaccine without proper clinical trials (in spite of complete lack of contact with colleagues) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/hybrid-work-tipsMar 15 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: 5 tips for a flexible future | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 15 13:27
DaemonFCThe live action shots were done up so they could be full HD later, but the studio cut the budget for CGI.Mar 15 13:27
schestowitz-TRdon't say remasteredMar 15 13:28
schestowitz-TRremainedMar 15 13:28
schestowitz-TRIBM prefers "inclusive" wordsMar 15 13:28
schestowitz-TRlike reMAINedMar 15 13:28
SomeH4x0rsomeone took down YouTube Vanced, but it will be forgotten in a few months when some fork replaces it. Instead of fucking trying to decentralize the development a bit.Mar 15 13:30
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DaemonFCNewPipe works.Mar 15 13:31
DaemonFCGoogle hasn't gone after them yet.Mar 15 13:31
SomeH4x0r"yet", but still #deletegithub or whateverMar 15 13:32
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SomeH4x0rit does not matter where it is hosted thoughMar 15 13:33
SomeH4x0rcentral entity needs to be killedMar 15 13:33
SomeH4x0rit needs to be developed on multiple hostings, with commits fetchedMar 15 13:34
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techrights-newsIBM Red Hat pushing Microsoft's proprietary garbage while asking us to cancel GNU's founder https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/15/preview-clustering-support-jboss-eap-azure-app-service see http://techrights.org/2021/11/24/fedora-slaves-at-microsoft/Mar 15 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 3.5 Years Later the ‘Master’ of Fedora is Still Microsoft and IBM Cannot Be Bothered to Alter Git Branch Names (Refuting or Ignoring Its Very Own Directive About Supposedly Racially-Insensitive Terms) | TechrightsMar 15 13:35
techrights-newsCongrats on becoming slave of IBM https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/ibm-power-champion-2022/ a nukes company http://techrights.org/2020/08/07/ibm-atomic-bombs/Mar 15 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | I'm an IBM Power Champion for 2022 | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' CzanikMar 15 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb: Series Index (on 75th Anniversary of Atomic Bombs Being Dropped on Civilians) | TechrightsMar 15 13:37
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I'd probably just use Ubuntu except I dislike the thought of them promoting WSL and having Microsoft's logo on their front page.Mar 15 13:37
DaemonFCAlmost nobody uses WSL. To the point that their WSL revenue is probably Microsoft slipping them payments just to promote it.Mar 15 13:38
DaemonFCWhich would otherwise be a business loss.Mar 15 13:38
techrights-news"Between 2022-03-08 and 2022-03-15 there were 30 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 280 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 10.7 % of total released titles" https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-03-15-edition/Mar 15 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-03-15 Edition - Boiling SteamMar 15 13:38
DaemonFCAlmost all "Windows" games, in fact, work with Proton.Mar 15 13:39
DaemonFC"Windows" games are designed to use the Windows ABI and APIs, and Proton supports most of it that matters to games.Mar 15 13:39
techrights-news"Recent reports indicate that over 1.2 million active Linux users are currently utilizing the gaming platform Steam, and the numbers are continuing to grow." https://linuxbuz.com/best-resources/whats-the-state-of-play-with-linux-online-poker-roomsMar 15 13:39
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DaemonFCSince there's not enough of a "drag" to provide these anymore to really matter, it all comes down to why you would even bother with Windows.Mar 15 13:40
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techrights-news[Update] Apex Legends Is Borked Again On Steam Deck & Linux ⚓ https://fossbytes.com/apex-legends-is-borked-again-on-steam-deck-and-linux/Mar 15 13:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | [Update] Apex Legends Is Borked Again On Steam Deck & LinuxMar 15 13:40
DaemonFCFor the viruses, maybe.Mar 15 13:40
DaemonFCWindows blogs don't like to use the term "virus" anymore.Mar 15 13:41
DaemonFCYou almost never see it.Mar 15 13:41
DaemonFCIt's always "ransomware" now, even when that's not exactly what it does.Mar 15 13:41
DaemonFCA "virus" is a self-replicating program that is intended to cause harm.Mar 15 13:42
DaemonFCSo it's best to use that if you need a generic term for such a program.Mar 15 13:42
techrights-news"Please join us at the next regular Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 28 March at 1300 UTC The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend." They owned to rebase on a distro not controlled by evil, malicious IBM. https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/03/15/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-28-march-1300-utc.html http://techrights.org/wiki/IBMMar 15 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 28 March 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: BlogMar 15 13:42
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DaemonFC"Ransomware" is designed to change th conversation from how the virus spreads to one particular thing it may do when it runs.Mar 15 13:42
SomeH4x0rransomware might be spread by humansMar 15 13:43
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techrights-news"Every quarter, the team together with CentOS and Fedora community representatives, choose initiatives to work on"... No, CentOS is NOT a community and Fedora is no longer a community. All the slaves there have escaped IBM's grip and aren't involved anymore. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-quarterly-update-q4-2021/Mar 15 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | CPE Quarterly Update Q4 2021 – Fedora Community BlogMar 15 13:43
techrights-newsIntel CPUs are such an utter pile of garbage that they cannot just sell them, they want to keep modifying them on live machines. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220315010300.10199-1-cathy.zhang@intel.com/Mar 15 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] Support microcode updates affecting SGX - Cathy ZhangMar 15 13:45
techrights-newsDoom ported to Raspberry Pi RP2040 - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/15/doom-ported-to-raspberry-pi-rp2040/Mar 15 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Doom ported to Raspberry Pi RP2040 - CNX SoftwareMar 15 13:45
DaemonFCRemember Conficker? That was a really bad one.Mar 15 13:46
DaemonFCIt had dozens of ways of spreading on Windows.Mar 15 13:46
techrights-newsIngo Molnar: "This is -v3 of the "Fast Kernel Headers" tree, which is an ongoing rework of the Linux kernel's header hierarchy & header dependencies" https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjBr10JXLGHfEFfi@gmail.com/Mar 15 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [TREE] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v3 - Ingo MolnarMar 15 13:46
DaemonFCBut it never used more than a few at once.Mar 15 13:46
DaemonFCThey'd patch something and it would update itself and start using something else.Mar 15 13:46
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schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: yes, all those app stores were always a riskMar 15 13:48
schestowitz-TRand some challenged themMar 15 13:48
schestowitz-TRFSF warned about them earlyMar 15 13:48
schestowitz-TRin apple's case they shut the doorMar 15 13:48
schestowitz-TRand if you work around it they imply you do something illegaMar 15 13:48
schestowitz-TRhence, people coined "jailbreak"Mar 15 13:49
schestowitz-TRand apple refers to installing something on your device as "sideloading"Mar 15 13:49
DaemonFCThat's what Microsoft calls it too, in the context of an AppX package.Mar 15 13:49
DaemonFCBut increasingly, anything from outside their store.Mar 15 13:50
DaemonFCDue to the history of Windows, they are making incremental changes to make installing software yourself feel "wrong".Mar 15 13:50
DaemonFCNot cutting it all off at once,.Mar 15 13:50
schestowitz-TRMSI/EXEMar 15 13:50
schestowitz-TRnot safe eitherMar 15 13:50
schestowitz-TRrandom binariesMar 15 13:50
schestowitz-TRthen again, WIndows itself is not safeMar 15 13:50
schestowitz-TRthe whole "ecosystem" is one massive clusterfuckMar 15 13:51
DaemonFCThat's been how it goes.Mar 15 13:51
schestowitz-TRthe "Security" or "antivirus" software is just as dodgy as what it claims to be tacklingMar 15 13:51
DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't know what's malware and what isn't so now it just attacks Nullsoft installers at random.Mar 15 13:51
schestowitz-TRdebian lets me add "stores"Mar 15 13:51
schestowitz-TRand has a base "trusted" oneMar 15 13:51
schestowitz-TRand those have binaries that get studied independentlyMar 15 13:52
schestowitz-TRand I can compile them myself if I wishMar 15 13:52
schestowitz-TRor if I am deep pocketed like a governmentMar 15 13:52
techrights-newsGames: Steam Deck, Psychonauts 2, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162565Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Psychonauts 2, and More | Tux MachinesMar 15 13:52
DaemonFCRight, but you don't really have to worry too much about what's in them.Mar 15 13:52
DaemonFCIt's not "grab this from some random website and run it".Mar 15 13:52
techrights-newsKaOS 2022.02 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Kip78pcl3v0"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Mar 15 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | KaOS 2022.02 Quick overview #Shorts - InvidiousMar 15 13:53
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techrights-news"A Quick overview of KaOS 2022.02." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Kip78pcl3v0Mar 15 13:53
techrights-newsIBM: we are not racist. We use stock photography to compensate for the fact we seldom hire any women programmers, let alone black women. https://opensource.com/article/22/3/manage-java-versions-sdkman like LF: http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/Mar 15 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage Java versions with SDKMan | Opensource.comMar 15 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | TechrightsMar 15 13:56
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162566Mar 15 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 15 13:57
techrights-newsFedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162567Mar 15 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 13:58
techrights-newsOh, come on, tecmint. You are recycling an article almost ten years old (see age of comments) because you cannot produce new stories? Ravi Saive keeps doing this. Change date to today, republish 9 years later. Pretend it's "NEW" https://www.tecmint.com/mx-linux-review/#commentsMar 15 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | MX Linux Review – A Debian Based OS for Linux BeginnersMar 15 14:01
techrights-newsAMD outsourcing to Microsoft proprietary software because LLVM did. We need to eradicate GitHub. It should be a top priority. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-GFX940-MM-LLVM GitHub = attack on Free software AND on Git: http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-enemy/Mar 15 14:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More AMD "GFX940" Enablement Work Landing In LLVM - PhoronixMar 15 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The State of Free Software | TechrightsMar 15 14:03
techrights-newsIf you have a choice between two packages and one of them is on GitHub, choose the "other one". On average, in general, projects that use Microsoft proprietary software for hosting do not care about users' freedom and possibly never will.Mar 15 14:04
techrights-newsopenSUSE on the Raspberry Pi 400 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162568Mar 15 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE on the Raspberry Pi 400 | Tux MachinesMar 15 14:04
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techrights-newsMicrosofters have found a new angle for attacking Linux (recycle) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33068 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/Mar 15 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This is the Media’s Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called “Masturbating Monkeys” | TechrightsMar 15 14:07
techrights-newsMaybe the Microsofters want to start naming EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT THAT USES LINUX... and then name-drop "dirty pipe" for FUD's sake.Mar 15 14:08
techrights-news802.11ah WiFi HaLow development board launched for $99 (Crowdfunding) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162569Mar 15 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 802.11ah WiFi HaLow development board launched for $99 (Crowdfunding) | Tux MachinesMar 15 14:11
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techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearchaswf_report/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearchaswf_report/Mar 15 14:20
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techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearchaswf_report/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearchaswf_report/Mar 15 14:21
MinceR15 082636 <~schestowitz> MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/icbm.pngMar 15 14:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearch_aswf_report/Mar 15 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Linux’ Foundation ‘Research’ ASWF Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | TechrightsMar 15 14:22
MinceRlolMar 15 14:22
schestowitz-TRit'sa , pngMar 15 14:22
schestowitz-TRI can have fun with it in the future, has transparency in itMar 15 14:22
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schestowitz-TRmaybe we can help that catch onMar 15 14:22
schestowitz-TRICMB Red HatMar 15 14:22
schestowitz-TRthat'll sellMar 15 14:22
schestowitz-TR*ICBMMar 15 14:23
schestowitz-TRwait, I'll make a meme nowMar 15 14:23
schestowitz-TRshould be funMar 15 14:23
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Attacking_Communities.2FVolunteersMar 15 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - TechrightsMar 15 14:25
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/815133.jpgMar 15 14:27
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activelow"Intel establishes production facility in Magdeburg/Germany"; "Intel will ensure a reliable independent supply chain", 17billion, 2027, 3000 jobs, Chancellor Scholz OlafMar 15 14:29
schestowitz"We aren't always slapping Free software volunteers; But when we do, we nuke 'em"Mar 15 14:30
activelowi would rather have asked, if and how all IBM Wintel could be removed, to establish reliable independent manufacturingMar 15 14:30
MinceRthat wouldn't establish reliable independent manufacturingMar 15 14:31
MinceRamd and arm puts pretty much the same shit in their CPUsMar 15 14:31
activelowyesMar 15 14:31
activelowsureMar 15 14:31
activelowand if anything Intel/Pentagon/USA had proven, it was their hostile business habitsMar 15 14:31
MinceRwell, it couldn't be the russians or red china because they can't come up with anything on their ownMar 15 14:32
activelowin 1980s we already had it, semiconductor manufacturing and the know how; yet it was destroyed, and even if Intel plants it's corruption into the middle of east-germany now this changes nothingMar 15 14:33
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activelowmy opinion, of cause, besides the fact this corrupt criminal gang of RAND corp war criminals now establishes manufacturing plants in east-germanyMar 15 14:34
activelowof cause, too it's a fact the former semi-conductor manufactoring is lost, and cannot be re-establishedMar 15 14:35
activelowas a reminder, NASA itself couldn't source required parts anymore for their space-shuttle, which was their dumpster diving for i8086/Z80/Gigatron era partsMar 15 14:35
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activelowno surprise, Atlantic Bridge minion war criminals in german politics and media boast about it, the benefits of IBM Wintel offloading their proprietary stuff into eastern universitiesMar 15 14:38
activelowi could sing a dozen songs, their peddling in Deutsche Telekom universityMar 15 14:39
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activelowand the consequences of thisMar 15 14:39
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activelowin parallel, recently tightened "anti hate speech", surveillence, "strengthening inner peace of society" was announced by ministry of the interior a moment ago, which is total propaganda and agitation of theirs boiled up to the maxMar 15 14:41
schestowitz-TRhi, techrights_guest|47Mar 15 14:41
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162570Mar 15 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 15 14:45
techrights-newsGames modified specifically to work with GNU/Linux. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/action-shooter-the-ascent-is-steam-deck-verified-adds-a-little-tweak-for-deck-playersMar 15 14:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Action-shooter The Ascent is Steam Deck Verified, adds a little tweak for Deck players | GamingOnLinuxMar 15 14:47
techrights-news"Currently across games, software and DLC there's a total of 1,352 that are either Verified (740) or Playable (612)." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-some-of-the-latest-steam-deck-verified-titles-including-the-popular-valheimMar 15 14:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's some of the latest Steam Deck Verified titles including the popular Valheim | GamingOnLinuxMar 15 14:48
techrights-newsOf course this has NOTHING to do with Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-releases-april-20-more-zen-processors-on-the-way is AMD sending crates of gifts to people other than MicroLarabel? http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Mar 15 14:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D releases April 20, more Zen processors on the way | GamingOnLinuxMar 15 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsMar 15 14:48
techrights-newsSeems like he really ordered it. Not a gift. https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-first-impressions/Mar 15 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Deck First Impressions - Boiling SteamMar 15 14:49
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activelow"Intel investment important impulse", "Germany attractive to high-tech investors"; Habeck, ministry of economicsMar 15 14:54
techrights-news‘Linux’ Foundation ‘Research’ ASWF Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearch_aswf_report/Mar 15 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Linux’ Foundation ‘Research’ ASWF Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | TechrightsMar 15 14:54
activelowwhoever IBM Wintel were (Pentagon RAND Corp.); they're not attractive to me, they're hostile, corrupt and ruinousMar 15 14:55
techrights-newsandMar 15 14:55
techrights-news"Apparently there's some sort of anti-copy mechanism for discs recorded via optical (but not analog), but I'm the only person I've ever known with minidisc anything so I think I'm okay on that front, and I still have all the original sources anyways." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2020-11-16.gmiMar 15 14:56
techrights-newsGames: Deck Stuff and Beat Invaders • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162571Mar 15 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Deck Stuff and Beat Invaders | Tux MachinesMar 15 14:56
techrights-newsDrew DeVault's blog: "I mainly focused on the programming language this month. I started writing a kernel, which you can see a screenshot of below. This screenshot shows a simulated page fault, demonstrating that we have a working interrupt handler, and also shows something mildly interesting: backtraces." https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/15/Status-update-March-2022.htmlMar 15 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Status update, March 2022Mar 15 14:59
techrights-newsPhoronix Intel spam, unrelated to Linux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-IDM-EU-Investment Intel pays him to do this...Mar 15 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Announces €33 Billion Investment In The EU - PhoronixMar 15 15:00
techrights-newsTypical lies and hogwash from ICBM Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-equal-pay there are lawsuits to that effect http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/the-ibm-standards/Mar 15 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat’s commitment to equal payMar 15 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat (IBM): FSF is Vile, Microsoft is Great; Our Sexism and Racism Are Also OK | TechrightsMar 15 15:04
activelowRussia announces: "Blinken and Biden forbidden to visit Russia"Mar 15 15:04
schestowitz-TRthat's news?Mar 15 15:04
schestowitz-TRyou seem to be reading Russian BSMar 15 15:05
schestowitz-TRHitler did not welcome Churchill to Belin, eitherMar 15 15:05
schestowitz-TR*BerlinMar 15 15:05
techrights-newsReactOS now supports SMP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162572Mar 15 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ReactOS now supports SMP | Tux MachinesMar 15 15:05
MinceRdid they want to?Mar 15 15:06
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: [Cr]acked US companies to face new reporting requirements https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-business-congress-gary-peters-c46e063220568b2beb56220ac60f6041 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/Mar 15 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Hacked US companies to face new reporting requirements | AP NewsMar 15 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force” | TechrightsMar 15 15:07
schestowitz-TRMinceR: usually they convene in some third, "neutral" countryMar 15 15:07
schestowitz-TRlike poland or singaporeMar 15 15:08
schestowitz-TRpolanf is natoMar 15 15:08
schestowitz-TRso not neutralMar 15 15:08
schestowitz-TRchina isn't eitherMar 15 15:08
schestowitz-TRhungary is a double agnts spyMar 15 15:08
MinceRlet them do thatMar 15 15:08
MinceRand assassinate putlerMar 15 15:08
schestowitz-TRRussia will send out a fake cloneMar 15 15:10
techrights-newsPhoronix... boring. Paid-for x86 MARKETING. NO connection to Linux. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-5800X3D-New-CPUs paid-for junk, cruft. http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Mar 15 15:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Announces Ryzen 7 5800X3D Shipping On 4/20, New Mainstream CPUs - PhoronixMar 15 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsMar 15 15:11
techrights-news"Even better would be if they had to report it to the public." Would be better if the "news" reported this that is a Microsoft Windows issue. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/us-critical-infrastructure-companies-will-have-to-report-when-they-are-hacked.htmlMar 15 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Critical Infrastructure Companies Will Have to Report When They Are Hacked - Schneier on SecurityMar 15 15:11
techrights-news"Even better would be if they had to report it to the public." Would be better if the "news" reported that this is a Microsoft Windows issue. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/us-critical-infrastructure-companies-will-have-to-report-when-they-are-hacked.htmlMar 15 15:12
techrights-newsRecycle and reuse are kinder to the planet. Let's hope this lasts a while. Buy less, learn to repair and maintain. https://www.maketecheasier.com/covid-foxconn-delaying-next-iphones/Mar 15 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | COVID Closes Foxconn, Possibly Delaying Next iPhones - Make Tech EasierMar 15 15:13
SomeH4x0rCOVID closes? Maybe the restrictions do?Mar 15 15:14
techrights-newsSUSE: proprietary software reseller of Microsoft and SAP. Almost half of their blog posts are SAP shilling. https://www.suse.com/c/rise-with-sap-still-one-of-the-most-discussed-topics-in-the-sap-community/ see http://techrights.org/2011/09/16/linux-tax-at-sap/Mar 15 15:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISE with SAP- still one of the most discussed topics in the SAP community | SUSE CommunitiesMar 15 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SAP Offers Lip Service to Red Hat But Continues to Pay Microsoft for GNU/Linux, Thanks to SUSE | TechrightsMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: no, it's not like that in EnglishMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRthat means to sayMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRCOVID causes closureMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRbut still improperly phraseMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRit's not the virus itself doing itMar 15 15:15
immibisSomeH4x0r: why do you think stopping COVID is bad?Mar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRit's humans closing the factoriesMar 15 15:15
schestowitz-TRdue to COVID killing themMar 15 15:15
immibisin place where governments make no attempt to coordinate the stoppage of COVID, stuff is still closed, businesses are still failing, people are still staying at home, etcMar 15 15:16
immibisplaces*Mar 15 15:16
SomeH4x0rgovernments closing stuffMar 15 15:16
SomeH4x0rgovernment actions cause closureMar 15 15:16
schestowitz-TRHK is drowning in COVID atmMar 15 15:16
schestowitz-TRsame in South KoreaMar 15 15:16
immibisthen explain why closure happens in places without government actionsMar 15 15:16
schestowitz-TRHK is close to shenzhenMar 15 15:16
immibisexplain why less closure happened in places with strong government actionsMar 15 15:17
schestowitz-TRwhere much Foxconn production happens iircMar 15 15:17
immibisyour ideological possession does not match up to realityMar 15 15:17
schestowitz-TRthen shipped from the ports in or near HKMar 15 15:17
schestowitz-TRfwiw, we barely know what goes in chinaMar 15 15:17
schestowitz-TRthey carefully control what info "gets out"Mar 15 15:17
SomeH4x0rstopping COVID-19 is not bad, introducing new-normal restrictions which might stay for years or more is badMar 15 15:18
techrights-newsGulag, I don't care how FAST your malware is https://blog.chromium.org/2022/03/how-chrome-became-highest-scoring.htmlMar 15 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: How Chrome Became Highest Scoring Browser on Speedometer, EverMar 15 15:19
SomeH4x0rgovernments spread information, people might decide to close places tooMar 15 15:20
SomeH4x0ranyway, I think it is more about the panic (if this word is applicable) than about the virusMar 15 15:21
schestowitz-TRit's causing hoispitals to go above capacityMar 15 15:21
schestowitz-TRand that harms all patientsMar 15 15:21
schestowitz-TRof all agesMar 15 15:21
schestowitz-TRwe have a surge in COVID patients here this monthMar 15 15:22
schestowitz-TRsee schestowitz.com/Weblog for visuals and anniotationsMar 15 15:22
SomeH4x0ryou didn't specify the protocolMar 15 15:23
SomeH4x0rif it is a webplaceMar 15 15:23
SomeH4x0ror geminiplaceMar 15 15:23
SomeH4x0ror both?Mar 15 15:23
techrights-newsLinux Foundation is trying to reinvent itself as a diploma mill https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-cloud-native-developer-bootcamp-provides-a-clear-path-to-cloud-native-careers-301501931.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/Mar 15 15:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | New Cloud Native Developer Bootcamp Provides a Clear Path to Cloud Native CareersMar 15 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation and Other ‘Diploma Mills’ Say There’s Demand for Their Products in Their New ‘Research’ (Marketing) | TechrightsMar 15 15:24
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: just http for nowMar 15 15:24
schestowitz-TRit's an old site, 20 yearsMar 15 15:25
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162573Mar 15 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 15 15:25
techrights-newsQt now abandons GNU/Linux? "There is no simple API for doing that on any platform we target - iOS, Android and Windows." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-webassembly-on-mobile-devicesMar 15 15:26
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: qt.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-webassembly-on-mobile-devicesMar 15 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt for WebAssembly on mobile devicesMar 15 15:26
SomeH4x0rweird, why would HTTPS redirect to some weird 404 pageMar 15 15:28
techrights-news"SAP and Arvato, for example, want to offer Microsoft products to German administrations and the new government is open to this." And FSFE was OPEN TO MICROSOFT MONEY!! https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220315-01.en.htmlMar 15 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Germany: 100 days of coalition agreement - hardly one day for Free Software - FSFEMar 15 15:28
schestowitzSomeH4x0r: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/Mar 15 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.comMar 15 15:29
schestowitznot 404Mar 15 15:30
schestowitzmaybe you put small wMar 15 15:30
SomeH4x0ryes, but https:// results in 404Mar 15 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: results; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// results )Mar 15 15:30
schestowitz-TRI'll look into itMar 15 15:31
schestowitz-TRI don't want to force CAs on peopleMar 15 15:32
schestowitz-TRimpose/enforceMar 15 15:32
SomeH4x0rself-signed works already, just wrong pageMar 15 15:33
SomeH4x0rI don't care about these stupid warningsMar 15 15:33
SomeH4x0rbut they will censor usMar 15 15:33
schestowitz-TRthis is shared hosting with no shell accessMar 15 15:33
schestowitz-TRnot proper shell accessMar 15 15:33
schestowitz-TRso I cannot self-sign, I don't think...Mar 15 15:33
SomeH4x0rwith mandatory HSTS I'm not aware how to disable in the big browsersMar 15 15:33
schestowitz-TRI'm looking into it at this momentMar 15 15:34
SomeH4x0rafaik Pale Moon did implement it themselvesMar 15 15:34
schestowitz-TRI changed my mindMar 15 15:35
schestowitz-TRI'd rather not do ssl than send ZemlinShitPAC my "trust"Mar 15 15:35
schestowitz-TRcpanel is what they give me hereMar 15 15:35
schestowitz-TRand it defaults to LEMar 15 15:35
SomeH4x0rcan't upload own certificate?Mar 15 15:36
schestowitz-TRno, I can only access ~/public_htmlMar 15 15:36
schestowitz-TRafaikMar 15 15:36
SomeH4x0roh, fuck it thenMar 15 15:36
XRevan86Ovsyannikova got herself a civil case.Mar 15 15:36
SomeH4x0rI expect them to eventually censor http:// eitherMar 15 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: either; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// either )Mar 15 15:37
XRevan86Seems like the gods were merciful on her.Mar 15 15:37
SomeH4x0rjust like they simply removed ftp:// already, afaikMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRthe browsers didMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRyou can still use ftpMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRmostly gulag-controlled browsersMar 15 15:37
SomeH4x0ryes, but most brainwashed users don't careMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRfor some things ftp is fineMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRanon accessMar 15 15:37
schestowitz-TRlike in the old daysMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRno passwordMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRand no sensitive thingsMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRlike, for download of stuffMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRand you can check against md5sum or similarMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRschestowitz.com had ftp many years agoMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRpublic ftpMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRwith some software of mineMar 15 15:38
schestowitz-TRanon accessMar 15 15:38
techrights-newsQuartzPro64 SBC coming soon with RK3588 SoC, 16GB RAM, $300+ price tag • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162574Mar 15 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QuartzPro64 SBC coming soon with RK3588 SoC, 16GB RAM, $300+ price tag | Tux MachinesMar 15 15:40
schestowitz-TRone upside of the Internet wars of the past 3 weeks is that we see many bubbles busrtngMar 15 15:40
schestowitz-TRone of them is the CAs with their "trust" modelMar 15 15:40
schestowitz-TRit's more of an instrument of unjust powerMar 15 15:41
schestowitz-TRover millions of sites that would otherwise be openly availableMar 15 15:41
psydroid2those prices for ARM SBCs are becoming crazy tooMar 15 15:41
techrights-newsJim Zemlin is selling sears again. This is how it works; they're up for sale. https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/the-linux-foundation-welcomes-new-board-members-from-ericsson-fujitsu-meta-panasonic-sony-and-vmware/Mar 15 15:42
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/the-linux-foundation-welcomes-new-board-members-from-ericsson-fujitsu-meta-panasonic-sony-and-vmware/Mar 15 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation Welcomes New Board Members from Ericsson, Fujitsu, Meta, Panasonic, Sony, and VMWare - Linux FoundationMar 15 15:42
techrights-newsDrew DeVault’s latest criticism of the Linux Foundation might be overlooking the fact that nowadays Linux Foundation seats are literally on sale (that’s how it’s raising money, in effect handing over or selling Linux direction/control) http://techrights.org/2020/08/28/linux-foundation-for-sale/Mar 15 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If You Don’t Understand Why Linux Foundation Board is Less Than 5% Geeks, Then You Don’t Understand the Linux Foundation | TechrightsMar 15 15:43
techrights-news"The National Science Foundation (NSF) has launched a new initiative called “Pathways to Enable Open-Source Ecosystems” (POSE), which will “harness the power of open source development for the creation of new technology solutions to problems of national and societal importance.”" https://www.fosslife.org/nsf-announces-pathways-enable-open-source-ecosystemsMar 15 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | NSF Announces Pathways to Enable Open Source EcosystemsMar 15 15:45
techrights-newsProprietary software. "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-074-01Mar 15 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ABB OPC Server for AC 800M | CISAMar 15 15:46
XRevan86https://video.foxnews.com/v/6300747814001Mar 15 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-video.foxnews.com | Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski killed in Ukraine | On Air Videos | Fox NewsMar 15 15:46
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: foxnews.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://video.foxnews.com/v/6300747814001Mar 15 15:46
XRevan86Ariadne: ^ Republican support for Putin might just shrink a little nowMar 15 15:46
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO: "Axeda Desktop Server for Windows: All versions" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-067-01 "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity"Mar 15 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | PTC Axeda agent and Axeda Desktop Server (Update B) | CISAMar 15 15:47
techrights-newsLinux: LOCAL priv escalation bug. MEDIA: OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Microsoft Windows "exploitable remotely/low attack complexity".... media: what? Sorry? Did you say something? They're still working on ruining us. http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/Mar 15 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | TechrightsMar 15 15:48
techrights-newsThe Internet as we know it is dying a fast death (not yet end of life) https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/russia-nearly-isolated-online-mean-internets-future-rcna19389 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/Mar 15 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Russia is nearly isolated online. What does that mean for the internet’s future?Mar 15 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | TechrightsMar 15 15:51
techrights-news"A cryptic, Rosicrucian-inspired text of disputed authorship, featuring engravings rich in alchemical symbolism." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/cabala-spiegel/Mar 15 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | A Hall of Mirrors: *Cabala, Spiegel Der Kunst Und Natur, In Alchymia* (1615) – The Public Domain ReviewMar 15 15:52
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162575Mar 15 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 15:53
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schestowitzclownflare test https://opensource.com/article/22/3/manage-java-versions-sdkmanMar 15 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage Java versions with SDKMan | Opensource.comMar 15 15:59
schestowitzOK, they moved the siteMar 15 15:59
schestowitzbut no CFMar 15 15:59
techrights-newsICBM Red Hat continues outsourcing itself to Amazon. ping opensource.com PING opensource.com (54.204.39.132) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from ec2-54-204-39-132.compute-1.amazonaws.com (54.204.39.132): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=105 ms ... see http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/Mar 15 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Looks Like Red Hat’s (IBM) Fedora Project May be ‘Outsourced’ to Amazon’s Datacentres | TechrightsMar 15 16:01
techrights-newsICBM Red Hat has long been slow to adopt female workers at higher levels http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/Mar 15 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | TechrightsMar 15 16:03
techrights-newsLinux Foundation Marketing Fluff • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162576Mar 15 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Marketing Fluff | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:03
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▅▄▆▇▆▆▅▅▆▄▁▅▄▅▆▅▂▃▄▁▆▇▇▂▁▄▅▅▄▅▅▆▃▁ avg(k/sec) 22.05 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁█▁▂▂█▁▂▁▁▆▇▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 64.28▕ swarm size (avg): 277.49  ⟲Mar 15 16:10
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▅▄▆▇▆▆▅▅▆▄▁▅▄▅▆▅▂▃▄▁▆▇▇▂▁▄▅▅▄▅▅▆▃▁ avg(k/sec) 22.05 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁█▁▂▂█▁▂▁▁▆▇▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 64.28▕ swarm size (avg): 277.49  ⟲Mar 15 16:10
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techrights-news"There are many terminal apps available that you can use while working with the command-line, but which one should you consider using? In this video, Jay from LearnLinuxTV shows you his top 5 favorite terminal emulators." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aCIph71bBicMar 15 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Top 5 Terminal Emulators - InvidiousMar 15 16:24
techrights-newsMicrosoft and a Node/JS are piles of shit. https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/node-js-security-parse-server-remote-code-execution-vulnerability-resolvedMar 15 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Node.js security: Parse Server remote code execution vulnerability resolved | The Daily SwigMar 15 16:25
techrights-newsRun Your Own Server For Fun (and Zero Profit) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162577Mar 15 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Run Your Own Server For Fun (and Zero Profit) | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:25
techrights-newsAnnouncement: gcobol https://lwn.net/ml/gcc/20220314163437.54ed696e0499d0875743a0f3@schemamania.org/Mar 15 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Announcement: gcobol [LWN.net]Mar 15 16:29
techrights-newsThree Tools to Scan a Linux Server for Viruses, Malware and Rootkits • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162578Mar 15 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three Tools to Scan a Linux Server for Viruses, Malware and Rootkits | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:29
techrights-newsPine64 previews RK3588-based QuartzPro64 SBC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162574#comment-33070Mar 15 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QuartzPro64 SBC coming soon with RK3588 SoC, 16GB RAM, $300+ price tag | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:31
activelowrk3588 is heterogenous SMP, no thanksMar 15 16:35
techrights-newsAn OpenStreetMap viewer for Emacs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162579Mar 15 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An OpenStreetMap viewer for Emacs | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:39
techrights-newsVideos/Audiocasts/Shows: Document Foundation, Terminals, and KaOS 2022.02 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162580Mar 15 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Document Foundation, Terminals, and KaOS 2022.02 | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:39
psydroid2I don't know what is happening with Cortex-A78C and Cortex-X1CMar 15 16:41
psydroid2it's very quiet on that frontMar 15 16:41
techrights-news"I decided not to once I had finished the 54 gig download of over 140,000 MOD files. The directory structure of the downloaded files was going to make it a little cumbersome to be useful on a gopher site." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-01-29-welcome-to-the-modcast.gmiMar 15 16:41
schestowitz-TRpsydroid2: indeedMar 15 16:42
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162581Mar 15 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:43
psydroid2I would look towards RISC-V now with hopefully more chips in the pipelineMar 15 16:46
activelowi'll be heading towards Gigatron/Z80 era once done with the linux distro (which i try to keep as minimal and clean as possible, including removal of GCC if possible, no kernel updates beyond v5.10LTS anymore)Mar 15 16:48
techrights-newsLinks 15/3/2022: C4C Linux is Back and gcobol Unveiled | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/gcobol-unveiled/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/gcobol-unveiled/Mar 15 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/3/2022: C4C Linux is Back and gcobol Unveiled | TechrightsMar 15 16:50
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162582Mar 15 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 16:50
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XRevan86Huh, Yandex is going to sell its publication resources: News and (D)zen.Mar 15 17:05
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schestowitz-TRwhat are those?Mar 15 17:15
MinceRwell, it seems yandex is going awayMar 15 17:16
MinceRi guess whoever owned it is no longer comfortable with serving vladolfMar 15 17:16
XRevan86Not really.Mar 15 17:16
XRevan86But it seems like News and Zen are too much of a liability to them now.Mar 15 17:17
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XRevan86They had to censor them extremely, and no one is happy.Mar 15 17:17
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XRevan86Maybe they're hoping that they'll look less pro-Kremlin if they ditch the services that the Kremlin wants the most control over.Mar 15 17:19
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/814958.jpgMar 15 17:42
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activelowhttps://www.dw.com/en/russia-formally-departs-council-of-europe/a-61136962Mar 15 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia formally departs Council of Europe | News | DW | 15.03.2022Mar 15 18:05
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DaemonFC"Fixed: A bug that slipped into the previous release and prevented OpenVPN from working on any devices except ones with the AMD64 architecture."Mar 15 18:12
DaemonFChttps://nordvpn.com/blog/nordvpn-linux-release-notes/Mar 15 18:12
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nordvpn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nordvpn.com/blog/nordvpn-linux-release-notes/Mar 15 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NordVPN for Linux: release notes | NordVPNMar 15 18:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, So this basically confirms that they aren't testing on anything except x86-64.Mar 15 18:13
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DaemonFCI don't kno what architectures they "support".Mar 15 18:14
DaemonFCThe main package just adds their repo and signing key.Mar 15 18:14
DaemonFCUkraine has charged the Russian puppet mayor of Mariupol with treason.Mar 15 18:17
DaemonFCNobody has seen the real mayor alive since Saturday.Mar 15 18:17
MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/fTr3ZBL.mp4Mar 15 18:18
-altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: imgur.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/fTr3ZBL.mp4Mar 15 18:18
DaemonFCMinceR, The movie Lifeforce was pretty good.Mar 15 18:23
DaemonFCBest line, one of the male energy vampires says "It will be far less horrifying if you simply come here.".Mar 15 18:23
DaemonFCEvery government ever.Mar 15 18:23
MinceR:>Mar 15 18:23
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DaemonFCMinceR, What I don't get is how they could be hovering above a major city like that and no world government decides to nuke their spaceship.Mar 15 18:25
DaemonFCThere's no evidence that they have any defenses for that. They're a race of parasites that apparently descends upon Earth to feed on the humans every several thousand years. Their ship stores the life energy like a battery.Mar 15 18:26
MinceRso they're nicer than the usual politicians, managers and priests, who do this constantly instead of every several thousand yearsMar 15 18:26
DaemonFCLife Sucking Energy Vampires 2024Mar 15 18:27
DaemonFCThey're better than the Democrats.Mar 15 18:27
DaemonFCMinceR, I was watching a movie once where the aliens show up and promise humans all sorts of advanced technology and as a demonstration, they start cleaning all of the smog and pollution out of the atmosphere.Mar 15 18:29
DaemonFCAll they want are the black people. So after a little bit of debate, we turn them over and have the military forcing them onto the alien ships.Mar 15 18:29
techrights-news20 Million Confirmed COVID-19 Infections in the UK by Week’s End http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/15/20-million-uk-covid19/Mar 15 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 20 Million Confirmed COVID-19 Infections in the UK by Week’s EndMar 15 18:29
DaemonFCThere was a debate over whether this was ethical or not and what the aliens could possibly want them for and then the result was "Who knows? Who cares? Look at what they're offering us and look at what we have.".Mar 15 18:30
DaemonFCMinceR, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109487/Mar 15 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cosmic Slop (TV Movie 1994) - IMDbMar 15 18:31
DaemonFCFrom the way the movie was written, I think it was meant to be critical of white people.Mar 15 18:32
DaemonFCBut it didn't do a very good job of it.Mar 15 18:32
DaemonFCMinceR, At no point did anyone in the movie explicitly put the alien offer on the table as "You mean we get technology 1,000 years more advanced than our own and in exchange there won't be any crime or need for prisons?".Mar 15 18:34
MinceRwhich would be obviously false anywayMar 15 18:34
DaemonFCIf you reduced the prison load by 84% in America, you could do a combination of community corrections and county jails with what was left.Mar 15 18:35
techrights-newsWhen Europe’s Largest Patent Office is Run by Opportunistic Politicians Who Break the Law and Look for Distractions | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/opportunistic-patent-office/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/opportunistic-patent-office/Mar 15 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Europe’s Largest Patent Office is Run by Opportunistic Politicians Who Break the Law and Look for Distractions | TechrightsMar 15 18:35
MinceReven if you could, that would not eliminate all crime or all need for prisonsMar 15 18:35
DaemonFCEssentially all serious crime.Mar 15 18:35
MinceRand we don't even imprison the worst of our criminalsMar 15 18:36
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MinceRor otherwise punishMar 15 18:36
DaemonFCWhat would be left? The occasional guy who walks in on his wife and another man?Mar 15 18:36
MinceRputler is unpunishedMar 15 18:36
MinceRthe CPC is unpunishedMar 15 18:36
MinceRrocket man is unpunishedMar 15 18:36
MinceRbill gAIDS, steve ballmer, asatya nadella and the entire management of MICROS~1 is unpunishedMar 15 18:36
MinceRthe management of ibm/deadrat is unpunishedMar 15 18:36
MinceRviktor orban is unpunishedMar 15 18:37
DaemonFCYeah, but the statistics would be a damned sight better than they are now.Mar 15 18:37
MinceRwe imprison people for committing crimes that are not great enoughMar 15 18:37
DaemonFCI liked that world they went to on Star Trek: TNG where there was only one penalty for anything. Death.Mar 15 18:37
MinceRand most of those people aren't even blackMar 15 18:37
DaemonFCThey chose a zone for enforcement each day.Mar 15 18:37
DaemonFCMost people wouldn't risk death to commit any offense, so crime dropped to almost nothing.Mar 15 18:38
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DaemonFCMinceR, Most people should know not to talk to the police. Very few can actually keep their mouths shut though.Mar 15 18:39
DaemonFCThere's absolutely no chance of helping your case, but you will eventually start telling them things they do not know.Mar 15 18:39
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DaemonFCI was reading about a police chief in Arkansas that murdered a man.Mar 15 18:40
DaemonFCHe even eventually started talking to them.Mar 15 18:40
MinceR"l'enfer, c'est les autres."Mar 15 18:41
bnchshelloMar 15 18:41
DaemonFC"We just need to know about your day. And by not talking to us, that means you did something bad today, right?"Mar 15 18:41
DaemonFCSee what they did there? Not talking to them is not admissible in court as evidence of wrongdoing.Mar 15 18:41
bnchsDaemonFC, so they manipulate people into spillingMar 15 18:41
DaemonFCBut they make you think it might be. As a cop, he should have known better.Mar 15 18:41
DaemonFCOh yes, they'll sit there for hours.Mar 15 18:42
DaemonFCThey'll alternate between threats of things they can't do and promises they can't make and won't keep.Mar 15 18:42
DaemonFCAnd they'll get it out of you a little at a time.Mar 15 18:42
DaemonFCMost people, that is.Mar 15 18:42
bnchslolMar 15 18:42
bnchsonce you tell them everythingMar 15 18:42
DaemonFCOut come the handcuffs.Mar 15 18:43
DaemonFC"Hey, you said you'd let me go home!"Mar 15 18:43
bnchsyou're not gonna win your caseMar 15 18:43
DaemonFCCop: "Yeah, that's not what's happening!"Mar 15 18:43
bnchsbecause they'll learn from what you saidMar 15 18:43
bnchsthe lawyersMar 15 18:43
DaemonFCThen many people who are arrested again didn't learn the first time.Mar 15 18:43
DaemonFCAnd go right back to sitting there talking to the police without their attorney.Mar 15 18:43
bnchsthey have a right to remain slientMar 15 18:44
DaemonFCAnd they get themselves in trouble, again and again.Mar 15 18:44
DaemonFC<bnchs> they have a right to remain slientMar 15 18:44
DaemonFC"But not the ability....." -Ron WhiteMar 15 18:44
DaemonFCbbiabMar 15 18:44
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bnchsthey actually pirate netflix accountsMar 15 18:47
bnchsrather than downloading the movies directlyMar 15 18:47
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schestowitz-TRactivelow: will use your linkMar 15 19:09
schestowitz-TRfor epo metaphorMar 15 19:09
activelowcurrently following this one "Intel City Magdeburg", and F-35 acquisition plans in GermanyMar 15 19:13
activelowschestowitz-TR: which link?Mar 15 19:13
schestowitzactivelow: http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/russia-joins-epo/Mar 15 19:14
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techrights-news[Meme] Russia Joins EPO (in Officially Discarding the Rule of Law) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/russia-joins-epo/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/russia-joins-epo/Mar 15 19:17
immibis_wait, are we talking about the EPO because its cafeteria doesn't accept cash?Mar 15 19:20
techrights-news"I disagree. I don't think companies should be able to shutdown commentary they don't like by taking domain names from others." https://lwn.net/Articles/887931/#CommentsMar 15 19:22
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schestowitz-TRimmibis_: haha,Mar 15 19:26
schestowitz-TRlike THAT'S the REAL issue thereMar 15 19:26
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bnchsthey don't accept cash?Mar 15 19:33
DaemonFC<bnchs> rather than downloading the movies directlyMar 15 19:33
DaemonFCNetflix is useful. It's a source of new AV1/Opus rips.Mar 15 19:33
bnchsyes of courseMar 15 19:33
DaemonFCOnce people rip that particular thing, Netflix can't control it anymore.Mar 15 19:33
bnchsbecause people actually managed to crack the widevine DRMMar 15 19:33
DaemonFCThen there's no incentive to give them any money.Mar 15 19:33
DaemonFCNope, it's not Widevine.Mar 15 19:33
bnchswell what DRM is itMar 15 19:34
DaemonFCNetflix only streams in 720p in Widevine.Mar 15 19:34
DaemonFCPeople crack Microsoft "PlayReady" to get the 1080p and 2160p rips.Mar 15 19:34
SomeH4x0rIsn't it Widevine L1, L2 and L3?Mar 15 19:34
DaemonFCSo you actually do have to use Edge on Windows to do that.Mar 15 19:34
bnchs"microsoft drm"Mar 15 19:34
DaemonFC<SomeH4x0r> Isn't it Widevine L1, L2 and L3?Mar 15 19:34
bnchsgeez what could go wrongMar 15 19:34
DaemonFCThey have different levels of Widevine, but Netflix and Amazon both constrain the video to 720p if Widevine is the CDM.Mar 15 19:35
DaemonFCBecause they know there's a million ways to crack it.Mar 15 19:35
bnchsDaemonFC, i think DRMs that use hardware can be crackedMar 15 19:35
DaemonFCI don't know what Hulu does.Mar 15 19:35
bnchsyou could make a hardware emulatorMar 15 19:35
DaemonFCAll DRM *can* be cracked.Mar 15 19:35
bnchsyou could make a TPM emulator that intercepts callsMar 15 19:35
DaemonFCPeople like mjg59_ work hard to try to stop it, or at least with code other people hand them perhaps.Mar 15 19:35
SomeH4x0ror just find the weakest hardware unit supportedMar 15 19:36
schestowitz-TR"BUT DIS NOT LEGAL !!"Mar 15 19:36
SomeH4x0rbut yes, emulator is betterMar 15 19:36
DaemonFCschestowitz implied that he's not nearly as smart as he wants people to think he is and may just be getting paid to be a front for code handed to him by other actors.Mar 15 19:36
DaemonFCTo make it seem legit.Mar 15 19:36
bnchswith microsoft pluton its not gonna be really easyMar 15 19:36
bnchsunless you manage to reverse engineer plutonMar 15 19:36
bnchsand emulate itMar 15 19:36
immibis_bnchs: the problem is reverse-engineering the hardware enough to extract the private key (not to mention the algorithm). If implemented right, it can't be done without dissolving away the chip with acid.Mar 15 19:36
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schestowitz-TRpluton seems to be dying alreadyMar 15 19:36
DaemonFCmjg59_ was pitching Pluton the other day.Mar 15 19:37
immibisand using an electron microscope.Mar 15 19:37
schestowitz-TRAMD pulled out of it this monthMar 15 19:37
schestowitz-TRiircMar 15 19:37
DaemonFCIt seems AMD locks it to OFF right now and he was trying to get the fucking thing to turn ON.Mar 15 19:37
XRevan86coub.com is done forMar 15 19:37
DaemonFCFor some ungodly reason.Mar 15 19:37
immibisand then reverse-engineering a hundred billion transistors to find which 256 of them encode the private keyMar 15 19:37
bnchsyesMar 15 19:37
DaemonFCYou go to install an "update" for your "BIOS" later. It flips "Pluton" on without asking.Mar 15 19:37
mjg59_DaemonFC: Well roy does tend to keep saying untrue things about meMar 15 19:38
bnchsor just don't use the hardwareMar 15 19:38
DaemonFCYou can't backflash because reasons.Mar 15 19:38
DaemonFCAnd then you have another nasty thing that locks you out of the computer.Mar 15 19:38
mjg59_But no, I do not do any work that enables DRMMar 15 19:38
bnchsyou can implement a TPM emulator or some emulator in the kernelMar 15 19:38
immibisA better way might be to film your TV screen.Mar 15 19:38
immibisyou know, the HDCP protection only goes up to the main circuit board on your TV. It doesn't extend from the HDCP decoder chip to the actual pixelsMar 15 19:38
mjg59_I have refused to take jobs that would involve me implementing or managing DRMMar 15 19:38
DaemonFCI dealt with "Secure" boot by turning it off completely.Mar 15 19:38
bnchsimmibis, that already existsMar 15 19:38
techrights-news"My post "Why I Will Not Contribute To StackOverflow Again" has a shorter URL to the reply I want you to upvote." gopher://gopher.club:70/1/users/ayaron/Mar 15 19:38
DaemonFCIt doesn't solve any actual problems that pertain to me.Mar 15 19:39
bnchsit's called CAMRIPMar 15 19:39
immibisbnchs: oh yes, you can absolutely implement a TPM... TPMs will soon come with private keys signed by Intel and Windows won't run unless you have one of thoseMar 15 19:39
bnchsand it's mostly low quality camera recordingMar 15 19:39
mjg59_Cool? If your threat model doesn't involve people attacking your boot chain, it doesn't buy you anythingMar 15 19:39
DaemonFCAnd I install the OS and application security updates from Debian and Flathub immediately.Mar 15 19:39
DaemonFCWithout delay.Mar 15 19:39
bnchsimmibis, wowMar 15 19:39
DaemonFCSome people let security updates pile up, and I mean, if they want to, that's their problem.Mar 15 19:39
techrights-news"I've been gradually tweaking my PineDA (Pinephone PDA) and molding it into my ideal personal computing interface. Well as close to ideal as I can get with my limited skills." gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-03-15-convergence.gmiMar 15 19:39
DaemonFCIf it causes them harm, they can blame themselves.Mar 15 19:39
immibis(btw I don't know if that is actual technology. It would be easy to implement and I *expect* it to be implemented especially if people start hooking up fake TPMs)Mar 15 19:40
DaemonFCBut none of this should be going on in firmware.Mar 15 19:40
DaemonFCFirmware is already super shitty without this nonsense in it.Mar 15 19:40
MinceRif your threat model is all about people compromising your windows installation or replacing it with a real OS, it is impossible for your data to be secureMar 15 19:40
techrights-news"Yesterday I noticed by accident while googling something for work the word "Gemini" which caught my attention so I decided to enter and see what it is, after a few moments I really liked this idea of a new way of browsing and creating web pages which are based only on text files" gemini://grizzly.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-03-15-Welcome-Gemini.gmiMar 15 19:40
mjg59_immibis: It's already easy to verify that a TPM is real, but it's also easy to lie to the TPM about the system stateMar 15 19:40
DaemonFCFirmware is so super shitty that if you can get it to boot your OS at all, LEAVE IT ALONE.Mar 15 19:40
bnchscan you dump a TPMMar 15 19:40
mjg59_immibis: So if you want to fake any of this stuff, just buy a second TPM, lie to it, and have it attestMar 15 19:41
mjg59_Define "dump"Mar 15 19:41
DaemonFCLenovo or someone will come in and brick things that worked before.Mar 15 19:41
immibismjg59_: that's why you have the chain of trust. Each stage attests the next stage so that by the time you get to a malicious stage, the TPM already knows something is differentMar 15 19:41
DaemonFCAnd if they don't, Intel and Microsoft will.Mar 15 19:41
bnchsmjg59_, dump the data stored in itMar 15 19:41
bnchsprivate keysMar 15 19:41
bnchsetcMar 15 19:41
MinceRooh, remote attestationMar 15 19:41
mjg59_immibis: If you have a second TPM then you can establish your own root of trustMar 15 19:41
DaemonFCmjg59_, Thanks to this fucking uEFI crap, I have my firmware complaining "NO INTERNET CONNECTION AT BOOT".Mar 15 19:41
techrights-news2240 capsules now. It was 2200 only a few days ago gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiMar 15 19:42
MinceRgot to have daddy gAIDS decide what you're allowed to run on your property, and prove it to him!Mar 15 19:42
mjg59_bnchs: NoMar 15 19:42
DaemonFCWhy in the fuck would system firmware NEED that?Mar 15 19:42
activelowBIOS/UEFI is the "real" OS itself with direct access to hardware; any other is merely a supervised and jailed guest systemMar 15 19:42
bnchsDaemonFC, lol modern computers really be like thatMar 15 19:42
DaemonFCWhy do I want it reaching out, independent of the OS, and accessing the Internet?Mar 15 19:42
DaemonFCHow does that SECURE my laptop?Mar 15 19:42
bnchsi'm pretty sure a computer from 2010s won't complain about internet connectionMar 15 19:42
mjg59_activelow: No, UEFI provides no meaningful runtime interface and the OS retains full access to the hardwareMar 15 19:42
immibismjg59_: assuming it's not integrated with your processorMar 15 19:42
MinceRapparently they've redefined what "secure" meansMar 15 19:42
immibisDaemonFC: it secures it from yourself. Remember, it's not your laptop, it's Microsoft's.Mar 15 19:43
DaemonFCBIOS systems (Legacy BIOS) were so much more pleasant.Mar 15 19:43
immibisMicrosoft's laptop is secure from you.Mar 15 19:43
MinceRto them, it means that your laptop has the standard set of vulnerabilities passed from on high by your would-be owners at MICROS~1.Mar 15 19:43
MinceRoh, and backdoorsMar 15 19:43
DaemonFCUnfortunately, they're all getting so old that even most GNU/Linux distros barely run on them anymore.Mar 15 19:43
bnchsthe only thing i liked about UEFIMar 15 19:43
DaemonFCThe last ones that went out were like early 2009 I think.Mar 15 19:43
bnchswas about the ability to boot many EFI filesMar 15 19:43
bnchsother than that it's shitMar 15 19:43
DaemonFCI bought one of the last anticipating uEFI would be a big shitheap.Mar 15 19:43
SomeH4x0rwhat is getting old?Mar 15 19:43
activelowmjg59_: just because firmware doesn't expose various interfaces doesn't mean those didn't existMar 15 19:43
DaemonFCAnd it's an even bigger shitheap than I thought it would be.Mar 15 19:43
DaemonFCAnd mjg59_ seems to think it's great.Mar 15 19:44
DaemonFCHe's in the minority. People who actually have to use systems with it don't like it.Mar 15 19:44
MinceRwell, it's "modern" and it's pushed by MICROS~1 _and_ ibm/deadrat, so it's got to be great.Mar 15 19:44
immibissomeone will probably write a BIOS to UEFI adapterMar 15 19:44
immibisBIOS is full of outdated legacy crap technologyMar 15 19:44
MinceRi'll take "outdated legacy crap" over a "modern" tumor that's designed to lock me into Backdoors any time.Mar 15 19:44
mjg59_DaemonFC: ? I am on record as calling UEFI terribleMar 15 19:45
techrights-newsWindows monopoly on gaming (on desktops/laptops, not mobile) will rot away fast https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-announces-steam-for-chromeos-chromebooks-in-alphaMar 15 19:45
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bnchsimmibis, you mean something that already exists?Mar 15 19:45
mjg59_It solves some problems that BIOS had, but it's not *good*Mar 15 19:45
DaemonFCThe BIOS did one thing. It loaded the bootloader, then it was just sort of dangling there, unused (by anything modern).Mar 15 19:45
DaemonFCSo unless you loaded DOS there wasn't much more to it at that.Mar 15 19:45
DaemonFCIt got the computer running and that's all that matters.Mar 15 19:45
techrights-newsMicrosoft must be scratching is head now. It cannot buy ALL gaming studios. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-talk-about-their-windows-emulator-for-stadia-and-they-use-dxvk-alreadyMar 15 19:45
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MinceRyeah, BIOS had the "problem" where the owner of the computer could replace the OSMar 15 19:45
DaemonFCSo if they're going to make things worse than the BIOS, they should have stopped right there.Mar 15 19:45
mjg59_DaemonFC: The bootloader also used BIOS interfacesMar 15 19:45
MinceRimagine that, getting to use your own property the way you want!Mar 15 19:46
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: The bootloader also used BIOS interfacesMar 15 19:46
techrights-newsNative GNU/Linux port https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/hyperbolica-is-a-new-non-euclidean-adventure-out-nowMar 15 19:46
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DaemonFCWhich was a solved problem.Mar 15 19:46
bnchsGoogle talk about their 'Windows emulator'Mar 15 19:46
DaemonFCThe code for that was already written and debugged.Mar 15 19:46
bnchswine is not an emulatorMar 15 19:46
mjg59_DaemonFC: Yeah, but the interfaces also didn't allow for >2TB disksMar 15 19:46
DaemonFCThey didn't need to.Mar 15 19:47
DaemonFCI had a 4 TB disk with the Legacy BIOS.Mar 15 19:47
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 2 ⚓ https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-2 godotengine needs to get off Microsoft GithubMar 15 19:47
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MinceRi had a windows emulatorMar 15 19:47
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DaemonFCThe BIOS Boot specification meant that that limitation was more or less irrelevant.Mar 15 19:47
MinceRit consisted of the CLI and HLT instructions in the boot sectorMar 15 19:47
DaemonFCGRUB knows what GPT partitioning is, even on a BIOS system.Mar 15 19:47
activelowand legacy BIOS implemented various device drivers for usb, pata/sata, vga, serial i/o (recalling coreboot, u-boot), which are duplicated by the operating system; and "BIOS"/UEFI offer a shellMar 15 19:47
mjg59_DaemonFC: It was fine as long as you could ensure that your kernel was in the <2TB regionMar 15 19:47
DaemonFCSo only one "partition" had to make any sense to the BIOS.Mar 15 19:47
DaemonFCThe one that GRUB was on.Mar 15 19:48
DaemonFCAnd it only neeeds to be about 1 MB.Mar 15 19:48
techrights-newsThe Linux Foundation won’t follow its own advice or eat its own ‘dogfood’; what message does this repeatedly-condemned practice send to people out there? That “Open Source” isn’t good enough even for the so-called ‘Linux’ Foundation? http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearch_aswf_report/Mar 15 19:48
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XRevan86DaemonFC: Actually, no.Mar 15 19:48
MinceRGRUB has a fatal flaw, though -- it isn't a MICROS~1 product.Mar 15 19:48
XRevan86DaemonFC: BIOS doesn't have to know about any partitions.Mar 15 19:48
MinceRasatya nadella doesn't want you to run GRUB.Mar 15 19:48
activelowmeaning, if such a shell was accessible (serial line) the entire system is compromised, even without access to the operating system; that's why i am wondering about the many other surveillance stuffMar 15 19:48
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XRevan86It will load the first 446 bytes on the drive, and then they will find their way to the BIOS Boot Partition.Mar 15 19:49
immibisDaemonFC: but it was a complete mess internally because different parts of the system couldn't access the entire disk. The concept of BIOS is okay, but the implementation is full of legacy crap everyone hatesMar 15 19:49
DaemonFCThe whole point of systemd-boot is to encourage GPL violations.Mar 15 19:49
techrights-newsThe EPO’s handling of the Russian invasion can be summed up in one word: opportunism http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/opportunistic-patent-office/Mar 15 19:49
DaemonFCAnd I think mjg59_ is one of the promoters of that if I'm not mistaken.Mar 15 19:49
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techrights-newsEurope’s second-largest institution and Europe’s largest patent office is in a very bad state; but it has managed to sabotage the media, so you probably won’t hear about it anywhere http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/epo-strike-media-blackout/Mar 15 19:49
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mjg59_DaemonFC: I'm not a fan of systemd-boot in the general case?Mar 15 19:50
techrights-newsJust like EPO management, which works for Team UPC (the patent litigation lobby), Putin’s Russia recognises that nobody can stand in its way, so it might as well do whatever the Hell it wishes, irrespective of laws and constitutions, then spread a bunch of fake news http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/russia-joins-epo/Mar 15 19:50
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mjg59_It solves a very narrow set of problemsMar 15 19:50
XRevan86Who cares about how much space of a stub partition ("protective MBR") a BIOS sees?Mar 15 19:50
DaemonFCIf you can just get all of the GPLv3 code out of the way, then it makes life easier on the parasites.Mar 15 19:50
DaemonFCAnd that's why Apple did the GPL purge.Mar 15 19:50
MinceRit solves one problem: that of systemd not having a bootloader built into itMar 15 19:50
DaemonFCNobody behind systemd has shown that they can actually manage to do anything without it leaking GB of memory, opening up insane security holes, and corrupting data.Mar 15 19:51
MinceRor to do it properlyMar 15 19:51
bnchsnow i wanna know this mental gym that poettering hasMar 15 19:52
bnchswhy should a init systemMar 15 19:52
bnchshave a bootloaderMar 15 19:52
DaemonFCRat Crap "Alleged" Enterprise Linux - Thanks to systemd you can have your alleged Enterprise Linux distro there leaking out 4 GB of RAM after running for three weeks.Mar 15 19:52
immibissystemd as an init system is quite reasonable. The rest of the crap behind it is notMar 15 19:52
MinceRbecause it's not an init systemMar 15 19:52
MinceRit's an operating systemMar 15 19:52
MinceRit's a tumor that has no scope and no purpose other than growing and taking over everythingMar 15 19:52
immibisperhaps systemd is trying to be to your operating system what your motherboard is to your computerMar 15 19:52
bnchslike poetteringMar 15 19:53
immibiswhich is to say: your motherboard *is* your computer, even though nobody thinks of it that wayMar 15 19:53
immibisthe rest of the components are just add-on modules to your computerMar 15 19:53
DaemonFCuEFI could have started over and done things right.Mar 15 19:53
MinceRit would have to be designed by engineers for thatMar 15 19:53
DaemonFCInstead it copypasted all of the dumbest shit over, verbatim, and then kept going.Mar 15 19:53
DaemonFCThere's even legacy ACPI stuff in there from 20 years ago.Mar 15 19:53
mjg59_DaemonFC: Like I said, I am never going to claim UEFI is goodMar 15 19:54
DaemonFCSo there's code for motherboards that uEFI can't run on.Mar 15 19:54
MinceRit was designed by sociopaths who thought they didn't have sufficiently complete control over the IT industry yetMar 15 19:54
bnchspoettering should be locked away with a copy of the UNIX philosopy on paperMar 15 19:54
bnchsfor a yearMar 15 19:54
DaemonFC<MinceR> it was designed by sociopaths who thought they didn't have sufficiently complete control over the IT industry yetMar 15 19:54
SomeH4x0rbnchs: he will rewrite itMar 15 19:55
DaemonFCSince the first release of systemd it has caused system hangs on shutdown that nobody behind it seems to care about fixing.Mar 15 19:55
MinceRhe won't understand itMar 15 19:55
DaemonFCIt still does it on every syste, it runs on.Mar 15 19:55
SomeH4x0rmake it evilMar 15 19:55
SomeH4x0rand then brainwash everyone once releasedMar 15 19:55
DaemonFCServices that are obviously frozen.Mar 15 19:55
bnchsyesMar 15 19:55
DaemonFCThe default is to wait minutes for them to shut down when they're obviously not going to.Mar 15 19:56
bnchsmy program froze the entire systemMar 15 19:56
bnchsand it's not even running as rootMar 15 19:56
MinceRi think it's closer to wait foreverMar 15 19:56
MinceRi'm pretty sure i waited a pretty long time the first time i saw it do thatMar 15 19:56
DaemonFCsystemd is because Poettering didn't think his laptop shut down enough like Windows Me did.Mar 15 19:56
MinceR:>Mar 15 19:57
MinceRthe famous multiseat laptopMar 15 19:57
DaemonFCYou know why the multiseat thing is bullshit?Mar 15 19:57
bnchswhenever i shutdown my laptopMar 15 19:57
bnchsit always ends with 5 seconds of systemd errorsMar 15 19:57
bnchsi hate itMar 15 19:57
DaemonFCThe public library in Marion had a multiseat GNU/Linux configuration on their public internet terminals.Mar 15 19:57
MinceRbecause deadrat started promoting it when nobody was doing it anymoreMar 15 19:57
DaemonFCIn 2007.Mar 15 19:58
MinceRpeople used to do it well before cancerdMar 15 19:58
MinceRand then computers got a lot cheaperMar 15 19:58
DaemonFCIt was based on Fedora and called Userful Discoverstation.Mar 15 19:58
MinceRbut it was a fine excuse to break the way sessions work, apparentlyMar 15 19:58
MinceRand to force polkit on peopleMar 15 19:58
immibisand I'm sure the lessons from that system were carried forward to all future multiseat systemsMar 15 19:59
bnchspolkit uses javascriptMar 15 19:59
bnchsit has a hard dependency on mozilla JS engineMar 15 19:59
MinceRrunning javascript as root, what could possibly go wrong?Mar 15 19:59
bnchseverythingMar 15 20:00
mjg59_Not really?Mar 15 20:00
bnchsbecause when javascript was first designed, it was designed for websitesMar 15 20:00
mjg59_Javascript engines are some of the best tested code for invalid input, given what they're used forMar 15 20:00
bnchsnot a program that gives out rootMar 15 20:00
techrights-news⚓ 156439 | ♾ Gemini address: 156439Mar 15 20:00
MinceRin a daemon written by proprietarydesktop people, the mozilla js engine is probably one's least concernMar 15 20:00
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bnchsfunction root_callback() { if ({} == "[object Object]") return true; }Mar 15 20:01
MinceRNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!Mar 15 20:02
DaemonFC<mjg59_> Javascript engines are some of the best tested code for invalid input, given what they're used forMar 15 20:02
DaemonFCAnd they're still the source of 95% of the attack surface on a web browser.Mar 15 20:02
bnchsDaemonFC, turn that "web browser" into a system-critical programMar 15 20:03
bnchsrunning as rootMar 15 20:03
MinceRsystemd-webbrowserd?Mar 15 20:03
bnchsyesMar 15 20:03
DaemonFC<MinceR> systemd-webbrowserd?Mar 15 20:04
DaemonFCThe Microsoft media hasn't managed to turn bugs in Firefox into "Linux holes" yet.Mar 15 20:04
DaemonFCAFAIKMar 15 20:04
MinceR:>Mar 15 20:04
bnchssystemd philo: everything must run as rootMar 15 20:08
techrights-news73,160 new COVID-19 cases in the UK this past Saturday, I believe highest since January. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/15/20-million-uk-covid19/Mar 15 20:08
bnchseverything must be apart of systemd and run as rootMar 15 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 20 Million Confirmed COVID-19 Infections in the UK by Week’s EndMar 15 20:08
techrights-newsCOVID-19 will be around and be a nuisance (death threat and show stopper) for AT LEAST 2 more years. Don't make false assumptions or plans based on unbridled optimism. Of course other issues exist, but they don't detract -- only distract -- from coronavirus. Our regimes failed us.Mar 15 20:10
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activelowreplaced the entire sysvinit/openrc with /bin/sh as pid1; while `true` ; respawn_getty ; sleep 1 ; doneMar 15 20:11
DaemonFCMinceR, I like to think that the movie Con-Air takes place in the Stargate universe.Mar 15 20:11
MinceRlolMar 15 20:11
schestowitz-TRsystemd-systemd-systemdMar 15 20:11
MinceRsystemd-kerneldMar 15 20:11
activelowat first, i was thinking openrc/sysvinit were a suitable alternative to systemd; until realizing none of this is requiredMar 15 20:11
DaemonFCDon S. Davis appears in a short scene driving a large luxury sedan complaining that a bird just shit on it.Mar 15 20:11
schestowitz-TRMinceR: next thing you know, they've made a bootloader, too ;-)Mar 15 20:11
DaemonFC"It never fails. You take it to the car wash and then a bird doo doos right on top of it."Mar 15 20:11
MinceRschestowitz-TR: you mean, they've assimilated a bootloaderMar 15 20:11
DaemonFCAnd then the dead body they tossed from the plane lands on his hood.Mar 15 20:11
DaemonFC(General Hammond)Mar 15 20:12
MinceRgummiboot was not a part of systemdMar 15 20:12
MinceRneither was udevMar 15 20:12
schestowitz-TRnext up: cheap/chip designMar 15 20:12
MinceRand neither was LinuxMar 15 20:12
schestowitz-TRsystemd-POWERMar 15 20:12
schestowitz-TRit comes in many coloursMar 15 20:12
schestowitz-TReven in whiteMar 15 20:12
MinceRDaemonFC: lolMar 15 20:12
techrights-newsGames: ChromeOS, Hyperbolica, and Godot Engine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162583Mar 15 20:13
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activelowudev removed too, not necessary, although device node permissions are slightly cumbersome to chmod/chown as desiredMar 15 20:14
activelowneedless to say, wiped all UEFI support form kernel and u-boot loader too, what would this be good for?Mar 15 20:15
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techrights-newsTaking security advice from the NSA? Well, if they want us to use Kubernetes, then maybe Kubernetes does not exactly enhance security (or worse yet -- it undermines it) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/15/updated-kubernetes-hardening-guide see http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/Mar 15 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Updated: Kubernetes Hardening Guide | CISAMar 15 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | TechrightsMar 15 20:16
activelowinstead of secure-boot, i'll rely on custom compression of root.squashfs, which isn't enterprise scale of IBM Wintel mindsetMar 15 20:16
techrights-newsCanonical selling complexity for "clown" era https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-are-linux-containersMar 15 20:16
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techrights-newsCloudReady 96.4.6 https://www.neverware.com/Mar 15 20:17
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activelowanyway, with GCC (any later than v4.7) and Linux (any later than v5.10LTS) arrived where i won't follow along anymore;Mar 15 20:18
mjg59_bnchs: How does an attacker get arbitrary javascript into polkit?Mar 15 20:18
mjg59_You need untrusted input for there it to be a realistic attack vectorMar 15 20:19
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techrights-news"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Zorin OS 16.1 core and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9tiSRbhbQq4Mar 15 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zorin OS 16.1 Core overview | Make your computer better. - InvidiousMar 15 20:21
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activelowEurofighter (equipped with MC68000 which Verilog and similar are available for) was put into operation 2006, few years later Intel plans to build some factory in east-germany and F-35 acquisition is announcedMar 15 20:21
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activelowAirbus chose SPARC Leon, too available as softcore for FPGA deploymentMar 15 20:21
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techrights-news10 Things You Can Do on Linux but Not on Windows • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162584Mar 15 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Things You Can Do on Linux but Not on Windows | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:21
techrights-news10 Must Have GNOME Shell Extensions for Customizing Your Linux Desktop in 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162585Mar 15 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Must Have GNOME Shell Extensions for Customizing Your Linux Desktop in 2022 | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:22
activelowhowever i think none of this is fully compliant with free/opensource... digging deeper... Z80/Gigatron/MyCPU.eu ... this is it nowadays, as far as freedom is concerned, some late 1970s early 1980s designsMar 15 20:22
activelowthe z80 clone manufacturing in east-germany is defunct since 1990, sadlyMar 15 20:23
activelowsome manufacturing is remaing in White-Russia, including TTL 7400 series type chipsMar 15 20:23
activelowand anything else isn't of particular interest anymore, concernign freedom made in Pentagon/RAND corp. USAMar 15 20:24
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techrights-news9 Best Free and Open Source Lightweight Graphical Web Browsers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162586Mar 15 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Best Free and Open Source Lightweight Graphical Web Browsers | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The Star Trek: TNG episode "Data's Day", got remastered and revealed something pretty gross.Mar 15 20:30
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DaemonFCAfter Data replicated some cat food for Spot and set it on the floor, there's a bug crawling around in the cat food.Mar 15 20:30
DaemonFCNot visible in the DVD or VHS versions.Mar 15 20:31
techrights-news#HowTo Use SongRec: The Best Shazam Client for Identifying Songs on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162587Mar 15 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Use SongRec: The Best Shazam Client for Identifying Songs on Linux | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:32
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162588Mar 15 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:35
techrights-newsThis spinning disk produces animations using a single LED | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/15/this-spinning-disk-produces-animations-using-a-single-led/Mar 15 20:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This spinning disk produces animations using a single LED | Arduino BlogMar 15 20:37
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-28-memes-12.jpgMar 15 20:37
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techrights-newsArduino device uses tinyML to help wearers recover from shoulder injury | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/15/arduino-device-uses-tinyml-to-help-wearers-recover-from-shoulder-injury/Mar 15 20:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino device uses tinyML to help wearers recover from shoulder injury | Arduino BlogMar 15 20:37
techrights-news"I'm super excited: I received print proof prototypes for Pepper&Carrot book 4. In English from DriveThrucomics and in French from Glénat, the two almost in sync. They both looks perfect! 😸 They'll be available at the same time next week, I'm working on the release." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article900/book-4-print-proof-prototypesMar 15 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Book 4 print-proof prototypes - David RevoyMar 15 20:38
techrights-news"On February 8, Robert Sirchia and I taught a Master Class for the SUSE and Rancher Community that explained how to use K3s with Traefik Proxy." OMG! He said "master"!!! https://www.suse.com/c/new-on-demand-class-secure-the-edge-with-k3s-and-traefik-proxy/Mar 15 20:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New on-demand class: Secure the Edge with K3s and Traefik Proxy | SUSE CommunitiesMar 15 20:40
immibismjg59_: isn't polkit something whose entire reason for existing is to communicate with untrusted processes?Mar 15 20:41
techrights-news"In my previous blog, I mentioned the initialization of the Left / Right click activity inside GCompris and its basic layout." https://samarthrajwrites.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/sok22-week-8-random-and-uniform-placement-of-the-animal-cards/Mar 15 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-samarthrajwrites.wordpress.com | SoK’22 Week 8: Random and Uniform Placement of the Animal Cards – Samarth rajMar 15 20:41
immibisactivelow: having a list of running background services is pretty useful. also the separate log for each one is pretty useful. systemd does that, init does not. Someone could write this in a way that isn't systemd thoughMar 15 20:42
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techrights-newsRaspberry Pi CM4 powered gateway with dual M.2 B-key slots starts at $333 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162589Mar 15 20:42
mjg59_immibis: Yes, through a defined interface. The javascript is behind that interface.Mar 15 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi CM4 powered gateway with dual M.2 B-key slots starts at $333 | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:43
immibisso it sends untrusted input to javascriptMar 15 20:43
mjg59_immibis: Websites get to just give you whatever javascript they want you to execute - there's no way for a polkit client to pass arbitrary javascript to the privileged daemonMar 15 20:43
mjg59_I'd rather pass untrusted input to javascript than pass untrusted input to CMar 15 20:44
DaemonFCThis is why web browsers suck.Mar 15 20:44
DaemonFCIt's something bad every month. It's all reactionary.Mar 15 20:44
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MinceRi'm sure the extremely eager type conversion isn't going to cause any problems with thatMar 15 20:44
activelowimmibis: ps ax, top/htop, and metalog; did i miss anything?Mar 15 20:45
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162590Mar 15 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:46
mjg59_If you look at Polkit's CVE history, it's pretty clear that javascript is not a terribly pressing security concernMar 15 20:46
MinceRlike i said, the rest is probably even worseMar 15 20:47
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mjg59_Turns out we probably shouldn't write security-critical code in C!Mar 15 20:48
MinceRturns out we shouldn't run security-critical code from ibm/deadrat or proprietarydesktopMar 15 20:48
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mjg59_I'd be fascinated to see evidence that it's worse than any other average piece of security-critical codeMar 15 20:49
MinceRthey should put that on the box, it's a glowing recommendationMar 15 20:50
techrights-newsContainers and Kubernetes: Canonical. NSA, and SUSE • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162591Mar 15 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers and Kubernetes: Canonical. NSA, and SUSE | Tux MachinesMar 15 20:53
schestowitz-TRcompanies need to invest more in tstingMar 15 20:54
schestowitz-TRbut managers only care about moneyMar 15 20:54
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schestowitz-TRthey cannot 'grasp' "the real world"Mar 15 20:54
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schestowitz-TRthe zero-days are not "in this current quarter"Mar 15 20:54
schestowitz-TRit compiles? SHIP!!!Mar 15 20:55
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techrights-newsThe OSI has quit pretending that it has a mind of its own; check the names of blog authors (yes, it’s Microsoft and GitHub is proprietary software) http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/github-drives-osi/Mar 15 20:57
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immibisactivelow: automation?Mar 15 20:59
*activelow shrugsMar 15 20:59
activelowthere's an rc.init script, and this automates pretty much all that's necessary during bootMar 15 21:00
activelowwith the difference, i wiped dozens of millions of lines of code and don't miss anything yetMar 15 21:01
schestowitzhttps://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202203 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202203Mar 15 21:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsMar 15 21:01
schestowitzwindows down again this monthMar 15 21:01
SomeH4x0rdisabled Windows Defender on Windows 10 through group policy, it says like its own registry key is malwareMar 15 21:02
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psydroid2they started pushing Vista 11 and then people didn't like it and started moving away from it?Mar 15 21:10
bnchswindows is downMar 15 21:10
bnchsbecause microsoft keeps doing stupid shitMar 15 21:10
bnchs<psydroid2> they started pushing Vista 11 and then people didn't like it and started moving away from it?Mar 15 21:11
schestowitz-TRexactlyMar 15 21:11
bnchsnobody would like ads in their file managerMar 15 21:11
schestowitz-TRand they wasted billions of "marketing"Mar 15 21:11
schestowitz-TR(lies)Mar 15 21:11
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/19/vista-11-hoax/Mar 15 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proof That Windows “11” is a Hoax | TechrightsMar 15 21:12
bnchsit seems like GNU/Linux is rising a bitMar 15 21:12
schestowitz-TRdoesn't matterMar 15 21:12
bnchsand mac is rising alotMar 15 21:12
schestowitz-TRAndroid is also "Linux" Mar 15 21:12
schestowitz-TRtechnicallyMar 15 21:12
schestowitz-TRbut not freedomMar 15 21:12
schestowitz-TRchromeOS is not freedom eitherMar 15 21:12
schestowitzThis is what "Linux" channels promote this evening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EywWnfKw5UcMar 15 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EywWnfKw5UcMar 15 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | How to install Minecraft on Zorin OS 16 - InvidiousMar 15 21:13
schestowitzmaybe they think this is "OK"Mar 15 21:13
bnchsminecraft [java edition]Mar 15 21:13
bnchsthats goodMar 15 21:13
schestowitzPlanet Fedora moments ago https://fedorafans.com/%DA%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9/Mar 15 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedorafans.com | چهارشنبه سوری مبارک | طرفداران فدوراMar 15 21:13
schestowitznot even on topicMar 15 21:13
bnchsas long as it's not bedrock (aka microsoft's own version) editionMar 15 21:13
schestowitznot english eitherMar 15 21:13
schestowitzfedora is on fireMar 15 21:13
bnchsschestowitz, fedora got hacked by ISISMar 15 21:14
schestowitzbnchs: it's not free software, minetest would be betterMar 15 21:14
bnchsyes minetest would be betterMar 15 21:14
bnchsminetest > minecraft java edition > minecraft bedrock editionMar 15 21:14
schestowitzno, fedora seems to be US Imperislism http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/Mar 15 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat — Just Like Donald Trump — Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | TechrightsMar 15 21:14
immibisactivelow: see, rc.init doesn't automatically restart something that crashes, unless it keeps crashingMar 15 21:14
schestowitzand ICBM is ruining Red HatMar 15 21:14
schestowitzISBM already killed centosMar 15 21:15
schestowitzthe board of CentOS fledMar 15 21:15
schestowitzand they put some token placeholder to pretend there's still such a distroMar 15 21:15
bnchsschestowitz, that blog post you madeMar 15 21:15
bnchsit was published by hos7ein Mar 15 21:15
bnchshttps://fedorafans.com/author/dhtmagmag/Mar 15 21:16
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MinceRhttps://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/adg1j7V_700bwp.webpMar 15 21:18
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techrights-newsGulag is evil. We all need to leave Gulag behind. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hatuAtICv_UMar 15 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | YouTube Vanced Is Dead And Google Killed It - InvidiousMar 15 21:19
bnchsthe joke isMar 15 21:19
bnchsyoutube vanced is a modification of gulag's proprietary gulagtube clientMar 15 21:20
bnchsthey would have already gotten suedMar 15 21:20
bnchsit was just delayedMar 15 21:20
techrights-newsLike ICBM with Fedora "badges", Gulag gives fake "badges" instead of real money to the tenants of the Gulag, who do ALL the ACTUAL worj ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9cKs52pdIG8Mar 15 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Unboxing Silver Play Button And The Journey To Get Here - InvidiousMar 15 21:20
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activelowimmibis: true. although i do not miss this feature yet; and process supervision isn't too difficult, if desired.Mar 15 21:28
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techrights-newsWhat Is the Yggdrasil Network and #HowTo Install It • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162592Mar 15 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is the Yggdrasil Network and How to Install It | Tux MachinesMar 15 21:28
techrights-newsMicrosoft friendly media finding new excuses to recycle last week's panic http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33071 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/Mar 15 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This is the Media’s Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called “Masturbating Monkeys” | TechrightsMar 15 21:31
techrights-newsSJVN nowadays PARTICIPATES in the FUD attacks on "LINUX". Well, look who pays his salary...Mar 15 21:32
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techrights-newsSJVN actually USED to promote GNU/Linux, but when funded by Microsoft ICBM his agenda is altered to secure a salaryMar 15 21:33
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techrights-newsMaybe we should spent the next 10 years, every day, naming one of 3,650 devices that run Linux and are affected by LOCAL priv escalation bug, which was already resolved before it was announced http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/Mar 15 21:35
techrights-newsBallmer would have thrown a chair https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Steam-For-Chrome-OSMar 15 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Finally Announces Steam For Chrome OS - PhoronixMar 15 21:35
AdmFubarhttps://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/stephen-hawking-death-anniversary-here-are-some-of-his-groundbreaking-theories-10451361.htmlMar 15 21:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stephen Hawking death anniversary: Here are some of his groundbreaking theories- Technology News, FirstpostMar 15 21:37
techrights-newsA real problem... while corrupt media is busy scratching its behind over some LOCAL priv escalation bug that was fixed more than a week ago https://lwn.net/Articles/887970/Mar 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A remotely exploitable OpenSSL/LibreSSL vulnerability [LWN.net]Mar 15 21:38
immibisactivelow: you have to reimplement it for every processMar 15 21:38
techrights-newsThe real security problem is Microsoft; watch this list https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/15/cisa-adds-15-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalogMar 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds 15 Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISAMar 15 21:38
immibisLWN is the real news for nerds, stuff that mattersMar 15 21:38
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immibiswell, a DoS, that's significantly less bad than heartbleedMar 15 21:38
immibisyou can crash almost any server running openssl so that's funMar 15 21:39
immibisinternet goes down for a day until everyone updatesMar 15 21:39
immibisNSA could intercept all our traffic and crash all our clientsMar 15 21:39
techrights-newsRussia loves Microsoft Windows because it puts plenty of holes in its targets https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/15/russian-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-access-network-misconfigured http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/Mar 15 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Russian State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Access Network Misconfigured with Default MFA Protocols | CISAMar 15 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | TechrightsMar 15 21:40
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activelowimmibis: no, not necessary; and with systemd or any other init system crash/restart behaviour needs to be administered too, no difference in this regardMar 15 21:40
techrights-newsDid ICBM pay him to say this? This vlogger takes tons of bribes, even got banned for it already. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D9h_0dnSGWkMar 15 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fedora is the new Ubuntu - Fedora Long Term Review - InvidiousMar 15 21:41
techrights-newsYou cannot trust anybody on 'You'Tube http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/Mar 15 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Circle of YouTube “Influencers” | TechrightsMar 15 21:42
activelowand if anything crashes, often this requires an administrator to see what and why it crashedMar 15 21:42
techrights-newsHow much does 'Linux' Foundation pay this site for such puff pieces? https://sdtimes.com/softwaredev/linux-foundation-launches-cloud-native-developer-bootcamp/ promoting the diploma mills: http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/Mar 15 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | Linux Foundation launches cloud native developer bootcamp - SD TimesMar 15 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation and Other ‘Diploma Mills’ Say There’s Demand for Their Products in Their New ‘Research’ (Marketing) | TechrightsMar 15 21:43
MinceRdoes chrom{e,ium} os include systemd yet?Mar 15 21:44
schestowitz-TRchromeos does not bootm with systemdMar 15 21:44
schestowitz-TRiirc, it uses upstart Mar 15 21:44
MinceRso they'll make steam work without systemd?Mar 15 21:44
schestowitz-TRor the older debian init systemMar 15 21:44
MinceRupstart is canonical, not deadianMar 15 21:44
schestowitz-TRMinceR: maybe they has changed Mar 15 21:44
schestowitz-TRyes, I knowMar 15 21:44
MinceRweirdMar 15 21:45
immibisactivelow: of course you want to restart sshd if it crashesMar 15 21:47
techrights-newsSecurity: OpenSSL/LibreSSL Denial-of-service Vulnerability and Massive Microsoft Holes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162593Mar 15 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenSSL/LibreSSL Denial-of-service Vulnerability and Massive Microsoft Holes | Tux MachinesMar 15 21:48
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techrights-newsVideos: Vanced, Zorin OS, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162594Mar 15 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Vanced, Zorin OS, and More | Tux MachinesMar 15 21:50
XRevan86https://mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/live-ukraine-putin-war-russia-26459157Mar 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Ukraine Russia war LIVE: Kim Jong-un refuses 'insane' plea amid Putin's nuke threat - World News - Mirror OnlineMar 15 21:52
activelowimmibis: or press reset button; that's why, data-centers often use KVM and/or serial line terminal or similar anyway, if something networking related is downMar 15 21:52
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162595Mar 15 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 15 21:54
techrights-newsLinks 15/3/2022: Steam on ChromeOS and Lightweight Graphical Web Browsers | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lightweight-graphical-web-browsers/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/15/lightweight-graphical-web-browsers/Mar 15 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/3/2022: Steam on ChromeOS and Lightweight Graphical Web Browsers | TechrightsMar 15 21:55
techrights-newsAnything to distract from absolutely appalling news about Microsoft holes and exploits, in media that's partly controlled by Microsoft https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-botnet-exploits-log4j-uses-dns-tunneling-for-comms/Mar 15 21:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Linux botnet exploits Log4J, uses DNS tunneling for commsMar 15 21:58
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: mirror is not reliableMar 15 21:59
schestowitz-TRlabour tabloidMar 15 21:59
schestowitz-TRthey likely exaqggerate thingsMar 15 21:59
schestowitz-TRlike some russian sitesMar 15 21:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▄▃▇▂▆▅▂▄▆▂▃▄▃▇▅▄▄▅▂▆▇▅▅▇▆▅▆▂▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.15 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁█▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 14.33▕ swarm size (avg): 277.54  ⟲Mar 15 21:59
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techrights-newsGo 1.18 is released! - The Go Programming Language • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162596Mar 15 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go 1.18 is released! - The Go Programming Language | Tux MachinesMar 15 22:00
techrights-newsA lot of the people in change of CentOS have left. ICBM nuked it. https://blog.centos.org/2022/03/centos-community-newsletter-march-2022/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=centos-community-newsletter-march-2022Mar 15 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CentOS Community Newsletter, March 2022 – Blog.CentOS.orgMar 15 22:01
techrights-newsChanging the subject? To distract from Microsoft back doors? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162593#comment-33073Mar 15 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenSSL/LibreSSL Denial-of-service Vulnerability and Massive Microsoft Holes | Tux MachinesMar 15 22:01
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techrights-newsThugs from ICBM are trying very hard today to pose as an ethical company (several examples of this so far). Thugs. Mayne timed to coincide with an embarrassing decision showing that Red Hat attacks the community? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-academys-efforts-improve-representation-and-inclusivity-tech-industryMar 15 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Bringing more voices to the table: Red Hat Academy’s efforts to improve representation and inclusivity in the tech industryMar 15 22:03
mjg59_schestowitz-TR: Are you really trying to argue that Pocock is representative of the community?Mar 15 22:04
techrights-newsICBM: let's deplatform techrights? http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/Mar 15 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | TechrightsMar 15 22:05
XRevan86schestowitz: Dang, "Kim Jong-un has reportedly" <- they're no help.Mar 15 22:05
techrights-newsICBM has spent all its time since buying Red Hat basically nuking the very core of GNU/Linux, hoping that from remnants and pieces it can somehow scoop up a monopoly (which is what IBM once had) http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/Mar 15 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | TechrightsMar 15 22:06
XRevan86https://nitter.eu/XSovietNews/status/1503843021405802502Mar 15 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | X Soviet 🇺🇦 (@XSovietNews): "I made up a joke about North Korea calling Russia too insane and the Mirror reported it as fact. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kim-jong-un-humiliates-vladimir-26474461" | nitterMar 15 22:06
XRevan86schestowitz: Good call.Mar 15 22:06
schestowitz-TRKim REPORTEDLY eats babiesMar 15 22:06
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I said to rioanneMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRon the day of the invasionMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRdon't read to me any billBC or othersMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRas it's all propagandaMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRthe russian and the westernMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRat times of war all the national broadcasters are worse than farcMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRthat has proved to be trueMar 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRmeduza is still okMar 15 22:08
XRevan86schestowitz: I caught it as translation into Russian. I reported the issue to the news reposter.Mar 15 22:08
schestowitz-TRbut not publishing in english lately, or barelyMar 15 22:08
XRevan86Most Russian speaking websites have Ctrl+Enter reporting, really nifty sometimes.Mar 15 22:08
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: when "journalists" take "tweets" as factsMar 15 22:08
schestowitz-TRand write for clicksMar 15 22:08
DaemonFCWalmart raised Softsoap 50 ounce refills from $3.98 to $5. Well, there's something else.Mar 15 22:08
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DaemonFCBut iBotta has a $1.25 rebate up to 5.Mar 15 22:09
DaemonFCMaybe I'll stock up. I use that in the shower.Mar 15 22:09
schestowitz-TRbotta?Mar 15 22:09
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schestowitz-TRbutta thought it was a bad nameMar 15 22:10
schestowitz-TRdon't drop the soapMar 15 22:10
schestowitz-TRpeople will see your bottaMar 15 22:10
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techrights-newsPostgreSQL-Related Releases: pgAdmin, Anonymizer, pg_dumpbinary • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162597Mar 15 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL-Related Releases: pgAdmin, Anonymizer, pg_dumpbinary | Tux MachinesMar 15 22:13
techrights-newsUbuntu GNU/Linux in there... https://www.joplinglobe.com/region/national_business/dt-research-delivers-the-most-comprehensive-line-of-healthcare-computing-solutions-purpose-built-for-diverse/article_e61dccf3-b91b-5373-b7fe-7362b04d839a.htmlMar 15 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DT Research Delivers the Most Comprehensive Line of Healthcare Computing Solutions Purpose-built for Diverse Medical Environments | National Business | joplinglobe.comMar 15 22:14
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techrights-news"But recently, I decided I needed to cut as many non-free software from my life as possible, including macOS" gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-05-28-new-computer-new-age.gmiMar 15 22:16
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techrights-news"I have decided to term the spaces where you are being “bugged” as “bugspace”." Social control media. gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2020-12-28_bugspace.gmiMar 15 22:18
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techrights-newsDebian developer demoted, quits after two decades with project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162598 The 'anti-harassment' harasses innocent people, ruins the project http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/debian-social-contract/Mar 15 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian developer demoted, quits after two decades with project | Tux MachinesMar 15 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Scientific Excellence and the Debian Social Contract | TechrightsMar 15 22:23
techrights-news'Linux' Foundation. Acting more like Microsoft proxy than a guardian of security https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/linux-foundation-census-of-open-source-software-libraries-identifying-vulnerabilities-in-the-most-common-components-of-foss/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/07/marketing-with-microsoft-npm/Mar 15 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/linux-foundation-census-of-open-source-software-libraries-identifying-vulnerabilities-in-the-most-common-components-of-foss/ )Mar 15 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Studies’ of ‘Linux’ Foundation ‘Research’ Based on Data From Microsoft and Experts in Adobe, Not ‘Open Source’ | TechrightsMar 15 22:24
techrights-news"It is an introduction to doing Internet transfers using libcurl, may 30-35 minutes presentation followed by a Q&A session where I can answer all and any questions you may have." cURL needs to delete Microsoft GitHub. Unhealthy relationship. https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/15/webinar-getting-started-with-libcurl/Mar 15 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webinar: getting started with libcurl | daniel.haxx.seMar 15 22:25
techrights-newsThis week or next week techrighs exceeds 33,000 blog postsMar 15 22:27
techrights-newsTechrights traffic this past month (31 days): 3.3MB/sec.Mar 15 22:28
techrights-newsSome time this month the Gemini capsule of techrights will exceed 40k pages.Mar 15 22:28
techrights-newsIn geminispace fewer than 1% of capsules uses non-SHA256 encryption gemini://botond.online/en/stats/Mar 15 22:30
techrights-news"Hiawatha is a lightweight Web server with a variety of features that distinguish it from heavyweights such as Apache." gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/hiawatha.gmiMar 15 22:31
techrights-newsWords? Good. Now follow up with more actions. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/white-house-task-force-on-worker-organizing-and-empowerment-report/Mar 15 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whitehouse.gov | White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment Report | The White HouseMar 15 22:33
techrights-newsICBM outsourced a lot of Fedora to Amazon!!! Yes, Amazon. ICBM : buy our CLOWN. But we do NOT trust OUR OWN Clown! So we send it to AWS http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/ earlier today ICBM also sent Opensource.com to Amazon AWS. Rejecting their OWN dogfood.Mar 15 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Looks Like Red Hat’s (IBM) Fedora Project May be ‘Outsourced’ to Amazon’s Datacentres | TechrightsMar 15 22:36
techrights-newsICBM has also been busy trying to nuke (take offline) its critics who merely point out facts about ICBM http://techrights.org/2022/01/19/watson-pr/Mar 15 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Another Video IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | TechrightsMar 15 22:36
immibis_vimeo makes uploaders pay for storage and bandwidth consumed by people who watch their videos. now you know why youtube has adsMar 15 22:37
immibis_does schestowitz have a snarky backronym for TPM?Mar 15 22:38
techrights-newsICBM killed CentOS. Hours ago: "Sadly, we did not attract new volunteers to contribute to the SIGs" https://blog.centos.org/2022/03/centos-community-newsletter-march-2022/ nobody wants to be a "Slave" of ICBM. People aren't stupid. They watch closely the behaviour of the steward. Even Jim AllowHurst has left.Mar 15 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CentOS Community Newsletter, March 2022 – Blog.CentOS.orgMar 15 22:38
schestowitz-TRimmibis_: you can suggest one such backronymMar 15 22:39
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/sUpHpCd.jpegMar 15 22:39
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schestowitz-TRI never thought of oneMar 15 22:39
schestowitz-TRbut the T is problematicMar 15 22:39
MinceRtreacherousMar 15 22:39
schestowitz-TRso usually you would twist the T or use scare quotesMar 15 22:39
schestowitz-TRiirc, FSF still says "treacherous" Mar 15 22:40
schestowitz-TRMinceR: beat me to itMar 15 22:40
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techrights-newsIBM gets rid of old workers not because they're "lazy" or "need upskilling" but because it can hire young people in India for a little fraction of the "dinobaby" salary ($15,009/annum instead of $150,000). The media doesn't want to say it because it's "racist"... like IBM http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#AgeismMar 15 22:42
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techrights-newsBUT OK then... if ICBM wants to be a company of drones who say "DevOps" and "AIOps" and "clown" it won't be a "smart" decision. Because ICBM is already not competitive and the geniuses it got onboard by buying Red Hat are rapidly leaving, including the managers (lots of them left).Mar 15 22:44
techrights-newsICBM is also very tactless for STILL calling some of its products "WATSON" (as if people cannot study history) http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/Mar 15 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Watson®” is a Lot More Offensive Than “Whitelist” and “Master” | TechrightsMar 15 22:45
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/Wikinaut/status/1503824207641198595#mMar 15 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Wikinaut 💉³🔥🌋 (@Wikinaut): "cc "">@zoobab @schestowitz @KonstantinNotz Do you already have any information on that (Russia leaving these IP treaties)?" | nitterMar 15 22:46
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/KreissignalSh3/status/1503828734146662403#mMar 15 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | 𝕂𝕣𝕖𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕚𝕘𝕟𝕒𝕝 (@KreissignalSh3): "No, but a country with no patent laws, as suggested upthread, cannot in good faith remain in WIPO and/or the Paris Convention, for obvious reasons. If they‘re just planning on playing fast & loose with national IP held by non-Russians, then it‘s a different ballgame." | nitterMar 15 22:46
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/Wikinaut/status/1503826317183180805#mMar 15 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Wikinaut 💉³🔥🌋 (@Wikinaut): "Status Russian Federation: https://wipolex.wipo.int/en/treaties/ShowResults?country_id=147C" | nitterMar 15 22:46
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XRevan86"Looks like they're moving closer to self sustainability." <- hahahahaMar 15 22:48
techrights-news"The UN went gloves-off on AI last month, with High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet calling for a moratorium on the use and sale of any [HEY HI] (algorithmic) systems that threaten human rights." gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/ai.gmiMar 15 22:48
XRevan86No comment.Mar 15 22:48
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techrights-news"This is an older screenshot taken from my wife's phone during an attempt at reading an article. I measured the amount of actual readable content. It's not even 15% of the screen. We are well past the point of inducing a seizure." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-01-31-re-ads-what-ads.gmiMar 15 22:50
XRevan86https://smbc-comics.com/comic/bah-3 science!Mar 15 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - BahMar 15 22:51
techrights-newsPerl Weekly Challenge 156: Pernicious and Weird Numbers http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/03/perl-weekly-challenge-156-pernicious-and-weird-numbers.htmlMar 15 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 156: Pernicious and Weird Numbers | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]Mar 15 22:52
XRevan86https://yewtu.be/xjfn1-AJA8E?t=87 (no reason)Mar 15 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rocket Surgery - InvidiousMar 15 22:53
schestowitz[22:48] <XRevan86> "Looks like they're moving closer to self sustainability." <- hahahahaMar 15 22:53
schestowitzwhere from?Mar 15 22:53
schestowitzself-nuke?Mar 15 22:54
XRevan86https://nitter.eu/Nick_Boro1/status/1503539176632901636#m from hereMar 15 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Nick Dampier ✝️ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (@Nick_Boro1): "No patent laws exist in Russia now. They can have their research teams engineer the parts they need. Looks like they're moving closer to self sustainability." | nitterMar 15 22:54
XRevan86Lots of replies that can boil down to "hahahaha" as well.Mar 15 22:55
schestowitz-TRthere is truth to thatMar 15 22:55
schestowitz-TRbut I would not phrase it like thatMar 15 22:55
schestowitz-TRwatching your videoMar 15 22:55
schestowitz-TRthe animationMar 15 22:55
XRevan86Just a few seconds of it are relevant :)Mar 15 22:56
immibis_turd poop module if you are 12Mar 15 22:56
XRevan86The voice acting is from Borderlands: The Presequel, I've no idea about the game but I like the voice acting anyway :)Mar 15 22:56
immibis_https://www.patreon.com/posts/vimeo-is-holding-61514364Mar 15 22:56
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immibis_title: "Vimeo is holding our Patreon catalogue hostage"Mar 15 22:57
*immibis_ is now known as immibisMar 15 22:57
schestowitzwaitMar 15 22:57
schestowitzare you saying that video hosting sites lack a business model? ;-)Mar 15 22:57
immibiswell, youtube has one. ads and dataMar 15 22:57
immibisturns out, it is ads and data, excessive fees, or eating the richMar 15 22:58
schestowitz"Pay Vimeo between $8,000-$9000 a year, or our account will be deactivated and all videos hosted through Vimeo will be gone. Their figure for a 2 year plan is $16,500…"Mar 15 22:58
schestowitzLOLMar 15 22:58
schestowitzenjoy!!!Mar 15 22:58
schestowitzimmibis: how do you know:Mar 15 22:58
schestowitz1) gulagtube is profitableMar 15 22:58
schestowitz2) gulagtube is profitable AND not losing users due to it?Mar 15 22:59
immibiswhy would gulagtube still exist if it was notMar 15 22:59
schestowitz3) gulagtube will continue to be profitableMar 15 22:59
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MinceRbecause gulag can afford to maintain it at a lossMar 15 22:59
immibisthey either expect profit now or laterMar 15 22:59
schestowitzfor similarity (1-3), look back at what Twitter did in 2018Mar 15 22:59
schestowitzyou might 'cash in' for a few quarter and then the users fleeMar 15 22:59
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schestowitzimmibis: noMar 15 23:00
schestowitzit's also politically strategicMar 15 23:00
schestowitza lot of tech companies are maintained by loans from the American taxpayersMar 15 23:00
schestowitznational dentMar 15 23:00
immibisoh they want to usher in the communist new world order where you'll own nothing and be happy?Mar 15 23:00
schestowitzthey keep infusing money to keep a lid on other superpowersMar 15 23:00
schestowitzotherwise china/tiktok can have leverage over mindsMar 15 23:00
schestowitzrelated to this conceptMar 15 23:01
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance?wprov=srpw1_0Mar 15 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Full-spectrum dominance - WikipediaMar 15 23:01
schestowitzbut on a more mental/sympathetic levelMar 15 23:01
schestowitzlike funding radio channels in eastern europeMar 15 23:01
schestowitzgulagtube was not proftable wqhen it was soldMar 15 23:01
schestowitzGitHub = sameMar 15 23:01
schestowitzso they allegedly paid billions (in paper) for staff and a losing operationMar 15 23:02
schestowitzhoping to turn that into money, power, or bothMar 15 23:02
schestowitzor into "too big to fail"Mar 15 23:02
immibistech companies pay for users they can extort money from laterMar 15 23:02
schestowitzthat tooMar 15 23:02
schestowitzIF they can turn them into paying clientsMar 15 23:02
schestowitzand that's a big IFMar 15 23:02
schestowitzmany failMar 15 23:02
schestowitzI looked into LBRY too years agoMar 15 23:03
schestowitzit was uglyMar 15 23:03
schestowitzso we only self-host the videosMar 15 23:03
schestowitzmore and more sites do this nowMar 15 23:03
schestowitzthe football clubs started hosting their own audio/videoMar 15 23:03
XRevan86It's flawed as heck but it's not ugly, at least not anymore.Mar 15 23:03
schestowitzRT based a lot of its stuff on US services/disservicesMar 15 23:04
schestowitzbecause they're naiveMar 15 23:04
schestowitzRT is a rogue actorMar 15 23:04
schestowitzrogue and stupid is a good mixMar 15 23:04
XRevan86Or they didn't expect that shit would hit the fan.Mar 15 23:04
immibisRT is not stupidMar 15 23:04
schestowitzbecause the rogue gets undermined by its own lack of foresightMar 15 23:04
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schestowitzRT and other rogues were relying too much on GulagtubeMar 15 23:04
schestowitzand cranks like Ike, Alex Jones etc.Mar 15 23:05
immibisgotta go where the users areMar 15 23:05
schestowitzGulag also shut down more moderate voices like Corbet ReportMar 15 23:05
schestowitzand they keep sweeping closer and closer to the centerMar 15 23:05
schestowitzis CCTV (China) banned yet? Or just flagged?Mar 15 23:05
schestowitzimmibis: until you "go"Mar 15 23:06
MinceRLBRY was replaced by odysee, which doesn't serve video streams anymoreMar 15 23:06
MinceReven the main page is sluggishMar 15 23:06
schestowitz"go" into /dev/nullMar 15 23:06
schestowitzodysee is making its issues shallow to seeMar 15 23:06
schestowitzinc. some rather tasteless recommendationMar 15 23:06
schestowitzeven worse than gulag'sMar 15 23:06
schestowitzit's going down the bin or the binshuteMar 15 23:07
schestowitz*chuteMar 15 23:07
schestowitzliveleaks is dead btwMar 15 23:07
MinceRi haven't tried BitchUte yetMar 15 23:07
schestowitzthere's no business model in hosting videos for OTHER people whose work YOU do not care forMar 15 23:07
schestowitzthat's why so many social control media sites are shutting downMar 15 23:07
schestowitzthey are all ticking time bombsMar 15 23:08
techrights-newsAtari VCS Review: Niche, But Fine (If You Can Afford It) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162599Mar 15 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Atari VCS Review: Niche, But Fine (If You Can Afford It) | Tux MachinesMar 15 23:08
schestowitzmany sites outsourced to clownflareMar 15 23:08
schestowitzthat dependency is, for now, less riskyMar 15 23:08
schestowitzbecause bypassing that is doableMar 15 23:09
schestowitzbut down the lane clownflare will look to 'cash in'... somehowMar 15 23:09
schestowitzeven bezos clown services (AWS) are squeezing charities nowMar 15 23:09
schestowitzwe see them strugglingMar 15 23:09
schestowitzand then bezos turns up the heat on themMar 15 23:09
schestowitzno more free plansMar 15 23:09
schestowitzafter they had put proprietary hooks in place for awsMar 15 23:10
XRevan86https://nitter.eu/Rogozin/status/1503804239155449860 god-like EnglishMar 15 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | РОГОЗИН (@Rogozin): "The European Union has banned the supply of black caviar to Russia. They no longer know what to forbid to supply to us. They banned the supply of black caviar to Russia, which we ourselves supplied to them before!" | nitterMar 15 23:10
schestowitzlolMar 15 23:11
schestowitzPunish the RushansMar 15 23:11
schestowitz"oh wait"Mar 15 23:11
XRevan86Dimitry Rogozin's Twitter is a sight to observe.Mar 15 23:11
immibisschestowitz: wdym? you pay cloudflare. they get paid. for their servicesMar 15 23:12
schestowitz"They’re banning the supply of payloads for your 70-year-old rockets."Mar 15 23:12
schestowitzLOLMar 15 23:12
immibisit's no different from paying say hetznerMar 15 23:12
schestowitznoMar 15 23:12
XRevan86schestowitz: https://nitter.eu/Rogozin/status/1502375246183211008 god-like humour tooMar 15 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | РОГОЗИН (@Rogozin): "" | nitterMar 15 23:13
schestowitzclownflare gets paid by  a fractionMar 15 23:13
schestowitzotherwise they cannot build up a userbaseMar 15 23:13
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XRevan86The fun thing about this is that the subtext of the cartoon directly contradicts the official narrative.Mar 15 23:14
mateymincer: whatever worth bitchute allegedly had, that was a long time agoMar 15 23:14
XRevan86s/subtext/text/Mar 15 23:14
schestowitzXRevan86: LOLMar 15 23:14
schestowitzlike these scene was made just for Feb-March 2022Mar 15 23:14
mateyyou might try thedonald first, bitchute was too busy trolling a slovakian liberterian for not being altwoke enoughMar 15 23:15
mateythen again i havent checked on it in quite some timeMar 15 23:15
schestowitzXRevan86: I think I saw the original as a kidMar 15 23:16
immibisschestowitz: cloudflare doesn't exactly have network effects; they have enough big sites using them to pay for infrastructureMar 15 23:16
schestowitzbut cannot recall for sureMar 15 23:16
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a real scene of course. But arrogant captions slapped on top.Mar 15 23:16
schestowitzimmibis: they did an IPO, didn't they?Mar 15 23:16
schestowitzprofitable yet?Mar 15 23:16
XRevan86Director General of Roscosmos finds it funny.Mar 15 23:17
immibisif they are not profitable how does increasing their expenses help them get more profit?Mar 15 23:17
schestowitzXRevan86: yes, loss of tanks and allMar 15 23:17
schestowitzand cutting off their own economyMar 15 23:17
schestowitztom should be on crutchesMar 15 23:17
mateyit would be interesting to see which of these services really are profitable and which are simply pulling the wal mart model of undercut now, enjoy monopoly later, profitMar 15 23:17
schestowitzXRevan86: my dad would tooMar 15 23:18
schestowitzhe jokes at NATO's reactionMar 15 23:18
schestowitzNATO is like OINMar 15 23:18
schestowitzit doesn't do anythingMar 15 23:18
MinceR16 001407 < XRevan86> The fun thing about this is that the subtext of the cartoon directly contradicts the official narrative.Mar 15 23:18
schestowitzit's just thereMar 15 23:18
schestowitzdoing nothingMar 15 23:18
MinceRit also appears to be out of touch with realityMar 15 23:18
schestowitzsitting on patents and adding membersMar 15 23:18
XRevan86Official narrative: peacekeeping, liberationMar 15 23:18
XRevan86Rogozin: Haha, Russian army destroy Ukraine, NATO does nothing, pathetic, hahaMar 15 23:18
schestowitztoothless and rather worthlessMar 15 23:18
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immibisthat's not subtext, it's just textMar 15 23:18
XRevan86MinceR: It is :)Mar 15 23:18
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XRevan86immibis: I corrected myself almost immediately.Mar 15 23:19
schestowitzlet's see clownflare's reportsMar 15 23:19
schestowitzLOLOLOLOLOLOL https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139460/net-loss-cloudflare-worldwide/Mar 15 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-• Cloudflare global net loss/income 2016-2020 | StatistaMar 15 23:19
matey\o/Mar 15 23:19
schestowitzGo harder, clownsMar 15 23:19
schestowitzmake more lossesMar 15 23:19
schestowitzit's the Uber of CDNsMar 15 23:20
schestowitzthe more they do, the more they loseMar 15 23:20
schestowitzway to goMar 15 23:20
schestowitzthat's US capitalismMar 15 23:20
mateyus capitalism?Mar 15 23:20
schestowitzyesMar 15 23:20
schestowitzexreme capitalismMar 15 23:20
XRevan86https://nitter.eu/DanielS18352008/status/1502379203060187141#m :)Mar 15 23:20
schestowitzborrow, borrowMar 15 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Daniel Smith (@DanielS18352008): "But it seems that this video lacks the best part of it, the end. When Tomy breaks the line and when Cherry's bell works. I believe that this last part of the cartoon will explain the future geopolitical situation, the #NATO warning, the victory of Ukraine and the end of #Putin." | nitterMar 15 23:20
schestowitzmax upMar 15 23:20
schestowitzit's OKMar 15 23:20
matey/me nodsMar 15 23:21
schestowitzjesus will come and sed moneyMar 15 23:21
schestowitz*sendMar 15 23:21
schestowitzJesus will send it by Western UnionMar 15 23:21
mateycanadian capitalism: borrow from china, pay back in political influenceMar 15 23:21
schestowitzHow many trillions were pumped into US corproations since COVID-19 began?Mar 15 23:21
mateychina: "we take influence"Mar 15 23:21
schestowitzthey borrowed 11 TRILLION since (~ two years)Mar 15 23:22
schestowitzhow much of that went to actual households struggling with basics? 2?Mar 15 23:22
mateymexican capitalism: let american businesses use nafta like a crowbarMar 15 23:22
mateybut if you keep going south a similar thing happensMar 15 23:22
schestowitzchina: we make little profit by paying very little to sweatshop workersMar 15 23:22
mateyprobably because nafta wasnt all that different from caftaMar 15 23:22
schestowitzalways smallMar 15 23:22
schestowitzbut it adds upMar 15 23:22
immibisXRevan86: do you really pay $39/mo for statista?Mar 15 23:23
immibissorry, $59 without the discountMar 15 23:23
mateystatista: we have a business model Mar 15 23:23
schestowitzimmibis: you said, "[clownflare] [...] have enough big sites using them to pay for infrastructure"Mar 15 23:23
schestowitzthey are like a half a billion in debtMar 15 23:23
immibissomeone should invent a system where my internet bill goes up by $10/month and every site I visit gets a share of the $10 depending on how often I visit itMar 15 23:24
schestowitzthey live on shareholders' loansMar 15 23:24
XRevan86immibis: What's statista?Mar 15 23:24
schestowitzit's a decent site for authoritative dataMar 15 23:24
immibisXRevan86: sorry wrong ping. schestowitz linked to itMar 15 23:24
schestowitzthey study dataMar 15 23:24
immibisschestowitz pays 5x youtube premium, for graphsMar 15 23:24
matey/me looks up statista on statistaMar 15 23:24
immibisand refuses to use youtube because of its business model or somethingMar 15 23:24
schestowitzthey will all need to cash inMar 15 23:25
schestowitzor perishMar 15 23:25
schestowitzor become government-fundedMar 15 23:25
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schestowitzor become government filterMar 15 23:25
schestowitzbtw, netflix has had similar issuesMar 15 23:25
mateynetflix also sells something they have no control overMar 15 23:26
mateyand negotiations can increase the price of hollywood content at any timeMar 15 23:26
schestowitznetflix claims it did manage to swing into profits at the end https://www.statista.com/statistics/273884/netflixs-quarterly-net-income/Mar 15 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-• Netflix: quarterly net income 2021 | StatistaMar 15 23:26
schestowitzhttps://www.statista.com/chart/26773/profitability-development-of-spotify/Mar 15 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-• Chart: Spotify Presses Pause on Profits | StatistaMar 15 23:27
mateywhen you put a movie on netflix, they dont really dictate anything, the owners of the movie have the most leverageMar 15 23:27
*x_ is now known as kingoffranceMar 15 23:27
mateyits a bit different than somewhere where the host has more leverage than the users (paid or gratis)Mar 15 23:27
schestowitzSpotify mostly loses moneyMar 15 23:27
mateyalso the paying users of netflix have no leverage eitherMar 15 23:27
kingoffrance"Jesus will send it by Western Union" thats not wrong, thats what identity thieves and drug dealers do. guess who runs the churches :DMar 15 23:27
schestowitzhttps://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/26773.jpegMar 15 23:27
mateythey can pay or not pay, thats itMar 15 23:27
mateydrug dealers run the churches?Mar 15 23:28
schestowitzso you cannot compete with them unless you too can afford to lose a ton of moneyMar 15 23:28
mateydoes that make them the opium smugglers of the masses?Mar 15 23:28
schestowitzand hope for an upswing/inflection point some time in the futureMar 15 23:28
schestowitzif you are ICBM, you make up a new companyMar 15 23:29
schestowitzand offload dying things onto itMar 15 23:29
schestowitzMicrosoft does the same, to an extentMar 15 23:29
schestowitzI heard Azure was still making losses, just like shithubMar 15 23:29
schestowitzbut they hide itMar 15 23:29
schestowitzmostly by rebranding old things "Azure"Mar 15 23:29
immibisgoogle says cloudflare's profit margin is -40% - i'm sure they can afford to raise prices by 40% Mar 15 23:29
schestowitzGulag's AWS rival make HUUUUGE lossesMar 15 23:30
schestowitzlike billions per quarterMar 15 23:30
immibisbtw when there is a lot of unprofitable stuff happening, that means it's time for a market crash and recessionMar 15 23:30
schestowitzyesMar 15 23:30
immibishope you shorted azure and gulagMar 15 23:30
schestowitzyou just follow my thinking hereMar 15 23:30
schestowitza lot of these companies are making up bubblesMar 15 23:30
immibisit's been time for a recession for several years now; hasn't happenedMar 15 23:30
mateywhen arguing that google needs to consider a model based on government funding, why not consider that they already have oneMar 15 23:30
schestowitzand drag people's savings accounts into themMar 15 23:30
schestowitzbecause interest rates in the banks are near 0%Mar 15 23:31
schestowitzwith inflation gone mad, so in essense the savings shrink (in purchasing power)Mar 15 23:31
mateyit's been time for a recession for several years now <- lots of ways to postpone such a thing Mar 15 23:31
schestowitzmatey: they doMar 15 23:31
schestowitzsee what happened the past 3 weeksMar 15 23:31
mateyschestowitz: thats my pointMar 15 23:31
schestowitzand even without banningMar 15 23:31
schestowitzthey derank and flag thingsMar 15 23:32
mateyi thought you were saying they should seek oneMar 15 23:32
schestowitzin the US companies took over decades agoMar 15 23:32
schestowitznot just the tech companiesMar 15 23:32
schestowitzall the sectorsMar 15 23:32
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-14-22-25.jpgMar 15 23:32
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schestowitzinsurance, oil...Mar 15 23:32
schestowitzwe have a purse-oicracyMar 15 23:32
schestowitz"open your purse, Jo"Mar 15 23:32
schestowitz"open your purse, Don"Mar 15 23:33
mateyno question about itMar 15 23:33
schestowitz"open your purse, {next president}"Mar 15 23:33
schestowitzhttps://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debtMar 15 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt - February 2022 Data - 1942-2021 HistoricalMar 15 23:33
schestowitzpress "MAX"Mar 15 23:33
immibisschestowitz: government does that. The fed basically controls the business cycle AFAIK?Mar 15 23:33
immibisor rather, tries to counteract it (thus controlling it)Mar 15 23:34
mateyregulatesMar 15 23:34
immibisregulates is a good word - like a pressure regulator, not like the FDAMar 15 23:34
schestowitz"open your purse" has become "open your zipper"Mar 15 23:34
kingoffranceunity of opposites matey :)Mar 15 23:34
mateycontrol might give them too much creditMar 15 23:34
schestowitzwarch how the curve goes vertical around 2020Mar 15 23:34
mateywhen it does thing they cant stop even if they want it to, its still regulation, its not controlMar 15 23:34
immibisschestowitz: if you are betting on that, then I hope you took out as much debt as possible, because the USD will become worthlessMar 15 23:34
schestowitzit's not like this year suddenly it'll plataea Mar 15 23:34
immibismatey: thing can only happen when money is abundantMar 15 23:35
immibisor rather time*moneyMar 15 23:35
schestowitzdebt is paid back with interestMar 15 23:35
schestowitzand they can take stuff of yoursMar 15 23:35
schestowitzwhich can lose a lot of value very quicklyMar 15 23:35
schestowitzyour 10,000 pound cars now worth 1,000Mar 15 23:35
immibisthe fed controls the price of time*money. Companies need time*money to do stuff and the more they have the more stuff they will do, scraping lower and lower into the barrelMar 15 23:35
schestowitz"we'll have that, thanks, that's 1000 off your debt"Mar 15 23:36
schestowitz"but my car cost 10k"Mar 15 23:36
schestowitz"yeah yeah.... whatever... they always say that'\Mar 15 23:36
immibisschestowitz: but you are predicting that we're in the hyperinflation timeline. So your car is worth 100 billionMar 15 23:36
kingoffranceimmibis, fed is PPP.  they are both appointed by government, but were deliberately meant to be business people...because they didnt trust gov wont just rig things to win an election. this was how it was sold, eliminating panics, long-term, letting the experts run things instead of politiciansMar 15 23:36
kingoffranceignore shares for the moment etc.   Mar 15 23:36
schestowitzright now in usland [sic] most companies that are "most successful" are also loss leaderMar 15 23:37
immibisIf the government debt curve goes vertical, then soon after that, the government will either default on its debt (meaning nobody will want US$ ever again) or the government will print unlimited amounts of it (meaning nobody will want US$ ever again)Mar 15 23:37
schestowitzyears ago even amazon announced lossesMar 15 23:37
schestowitznot big lossesMar 15 23:37
schestowitzbut lossesMar 15 23:37
mateyhow are things in bor-usland?Mar 15 23:37
schestowitzpaying 1.2 million salaries isn't easyMar 15 23:37
schestowitzand when people have no money to buy things and china cannot produce (or export) you need to rethink the whole operationMar 15 23:38
schestowitzmatey: borisnaro is killing many of usMar 15 23:38
schestowitzesp. the families with young kidsMar 15 23:38
mateyits amazing how much the uk has fallenMar 15 23:38
MinceRnice way to sell regulatory captureMar 15 23:38
kingoffrance:)Mar 15 23:39
mateyi blame it on capitualation from labour many years agoMar 15 23:39
mateyof course there are many other factorsMar 15 23:39
schestowitzbased on 4 Nov 2021 report, clownflare losses increased in last reportMar 15 23:39
schestowitzcompared to prior yearMar 15 23:39
schestowitztheir chief says to the media this month to be patientMar 15 23:40
mateythe fact that the eu benefit germant and france more than the uk pretty much guaranteed brexit sooner or later (good or bad, just inevitable)Mar 15 23:40
schestowitzthat they bet on getting more sites hooksMar 15 23:40
schestowitzthen something will happenMar 15 23:40
immibiswhy does the EU benefit germany and france more than the UK?Mar 15 23:40
schestowitzthey are there for shareholders, not sitesMar 15 23:40
immibisevery business is for shareholdersMar 15 23:40
mateybecause the eu lets germany and france pretty much run the showMar 15 23:40
immibisincluding ones like hetznerMar 15 23:40
immibiswhich you seem to have no problem withMar 15 23:40
schestowitzepoMar 15 23:41
schestowitznot many british wortkers thereMar 15 23:41
schestowitznot anymore anywayMar 15 23:41
schestowitzit fell sharplyMar 15 23:41
immibiswell the UK's not in the EUMar 15 23:41
immibiswhy would there be?Mar 15 23:41
mateyim talking about the events leading to brexit, not afterMar 15 23:41
mateyso by necessity im not talking about the presentMar 15 23:41
immibiswhy didn't some apply for jobs?Mar 15 23:42
kingoffranceway back with woodrow wilson, they had to get william jennings bryan on board.   so fed was given the appearance of "public" money, but this just meant the gov would pick up any debts, just thought it was the only way it would pass.    didn't really matter perhaps until the depression.     point: PPP:  private made public legal tender.   gov/public on the hook for it.    PPP/both.  any alone "public" or "private" analysis will fail, its a partnerMar 15 23:42
kingoffranceshipMar 15 23:42
kingoffranceits both!   Mar 15 23:43
matey/me wonders if one side always wears the PPPPMar 15 23:43
matey(the Pants in the Public Private Partnership)Mar 15 23:43
kingoffrancelolMar 15 23:43
kingoffranceinsert "it's pat!" hereMar 15 23:44
mateyoh, oldschool snlMar 15 23:44
mateybut point takenMar 15 23:44
schestowitz[23:41] <immibis> well the UK's not in the EUMar 15 23:44
schestowitzit is in EPC, hence EPOMar 15 23:44
schestowitzfor nowMar 15 23:44
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2017/11/09/administrative-council-of-the-epo-is-concerned-that-the-office-is-largely-german-and-male-recruitment-bar-has-fallen/Mar 15 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Administrative Council of the EPO is Concerned That the Office is Largely German and Male, Recruitment Bar Has Fallen | TechrightsMar 15 23:47
schestowitzthis is still trueMar 15 23:47
schestowitzI cannot find the article about massive decrease in british workersMar 15 23:47
schestowitzit was around 2016Mar 15 23:47
mateynote i was speaking more broadly, but the epo seems to support what im saying (incidentally or otherwise)Mar 15 23:48
matey/me wonders what percentage of epo workers are frenchMar 15 23:48
techrights-news"I know I've been very negative on my gemlog lately. I'm trying to find things to be positive about but it's very difficult and a lot easier to write about all the stuff I don't like." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-29.gmiMar 15 23:48
mateynot that it has to be that way in every departmentMar 15 23:48
schestowitz-TRquite highMar 15 23:49
schestowitz-TRfor sure more than british and irishMar 15 23:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/06/epo-founding-states-vs-epo-staff/Mar 15 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Top EPO Applicants (Six Nations/States of Seven Founding States) Approved Unlawful Strike Regulations, Illegally Crushing EPO Examiners | TechrightsMar 15 23:49
mateyseems like hitler would have achieved more of his plan with the eu than than the third reichMar 15 23:49
schestowitzyou need to understand where EPO comes fromMar 15 23:49
mateyim not saying the eu is worse, just more in line with his political ambitions Mar 15 23:50
schestowitzBenelux UnionMar 15 23:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/06/epo-founding-states/Mar 15 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IV: The Founding States | TechrightsMar 15 23:50
schestowitzand some institution in NL and one in DEMar 15 23:50
schestowitzno idea why UKIPO wants to give them more leverageMar 15 23:50
techrights-news"It's been a slow build up ever since a few weeks after classes started, but I've finally reached near-zero levels of motivation. Missing over a week of classes to covid at the start of the month certainly didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of the problem." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-11-30-november-is-gone.gmiMar 15 23:52
techrights-news"Let's just be honest, and admit that [Linux] wasn't designed. [Linux] grew. It grew with a lot of mutations - and because the mutations were less than random, they were faster and more directed than alpha-particles in DNA." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-01-14-design-vs-evolution.gmiMar 15 23:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▇▃▅▆▂▂▄▅▆▄▅▂▅▅▃▄▂▆▃▄▅▁▂▃▆▄▆▅▆▅▅▃▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 21.16 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▁▂▂█▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁█▁▁▂█▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 82.73▕ swarm size (avg): 277.55  ⟲Mar 15 23:59

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