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| DaemonFC[m] | You have to have a high enough IQ to form a relationship between actions and consequences. | Aug 15 00:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Most people learn after their parents turn them over their knee or go get the switch a time or two, or are at least smart enough to show up in court dressed right. | Aug 15 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd think, oh well maybe half the people out there are smart enough to go into damage control mode, but that too would be optimistic. | Aug 15 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really shocks me that I handled the police better (over a misdemeanor, but yeah), than somene Bill Gates hired as an IT guy. | Aug 15 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was reading those documents and giggling, when I got to the interview in the car. | Aug 15 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In less than 1 minute, the cop successfully baited him into destroying himself. If it wasn't going to hurt him, they wouldn't have interrogated him. They would just arrest him and let him post bail. In practice, they often don't strictly need a confession, but it never hurts their case if they get one. So they always want to talk. | Aug 15 00:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | When they were interviewing my other ex, I saw the transcripts of the police report as part of the discovery process. | Aug 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cop who was interviewing him was trying to lean on him to go further and accuse me of rape, even though that was not part of his complaint. | Aug 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm telling you, these cops are twisted and they operate on the fringes of the law. | Aug 15 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can tell you from reading the Jones file that this detective is one of those. | Aug 15 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They amuse themselves by destroying people. Guilt or innocence makes no difference. | Aug 15 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It appeals to a certain personality type to be a cop. | Aug 15 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I did enjoy the movie Captive State. | Aug 15 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The script could be changed only slightly and turned into a Half Life movie. | Aug 15 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it takes place in Chicago and the Chicago Police were all too eager to join the side of the invading aliens and collaborate against other humans. | Aug 15 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's funny is that long before the movie was released, I saw the Chicago Police in action and started referring to them as "Civil Protection". I had to explain to John that they were the human collaborators working for The Combine in Half Life. | Aug 15 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We were going through the airport and they had one of those commando police units with machine guns and I leaned over to John and said, "Hey you! Pick that up!". | Aug 15 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Duterte goes full honeybadger | Aug 15 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Giving zero f*cks about the vaccine's safety - or lack thereof, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said earlier in the week that he volunteered to participate in trials for the Russian vaccine - however a presidential spokesman reportedly said on Thursday that Duterte would be injected as early as May, 2021, according to CNBC." | Aug 15 00:31 |
| schestowitz | duterte is an idiot | Aug 15 00:32 |
| schestowitz | of the highest order | Aug 15 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm guessing that he holds off while the cops go grab some people in the Philippines who nobody will miss to strap to a table an inject. | Aug 15 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe experiment on prisoners or something. | Aug 15 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have so many because they just throw them in a cell until it's wall to wall people. | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | hey, they're human beings too | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | they may have screwed up, but they're not animals | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | even animals have rights | Aug 15 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't say they were. | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | you can experiment on pathogens in a lab without animals | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | first | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | it can take time | Aug 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | but this is how it's done, it can take over a decade to get approval | Aug 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | don't ask me the protocol, it's not my area | Aug 15 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was absolutely horrified when Mandy showed me a video of what a police holding cell looks like over there. | Aug 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | like in Indonesia maybe | Aug 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I saw some examples | Aug 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | they don't try to pamper you, to say the least | Aug 15 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, corners were cut. In the Russian vaccine, they only tested it on maybe 100 people and says "Looks fine." as quick as possible. | Aug 15 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it has a much higher probability of turning into a disaster than the "Operation Warp Speed" nonsense in the US and whatever comes of that. | Aug 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | [20:32] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: The Snap store in Ubuntu is hardly actually used by people. | Aug 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | good | Aug 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | fuck snap and flatpak too | Aug 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | their only innovation is bringing blobs to us | Aug 15 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They redid Chromium so the debian package is fake. | Aug 15 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It forces the Snap on your computer. | Aug 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | [00:35] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, corners were cut. In the Russian vaccine, they only tested it on maybe 100 people and says "Looks fine." as quick as possible. | Aug 15 00:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe will form keloids and do nothing against actual COVID-19/20/21 | Aug 15 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Russians claim that they had been working on this for years because of SARS and MERS. | Aug 15 00:38 |
| schestowitz | > The Russians claim t | Aug 15 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To try to downplay something Putin had them cook up in the lab real quick. | Aug 15 00:38 |
| schestowitz | There's your problem | Aug 15 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dr. Fauci basically said "Yeah, we would have had something back in May if we did what the Russians did.". | Aug 15 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rushing something out can hurt more people than the damned virus and make sure nobody ever trusts you again. | Aug 15 00:39 |
| MinceR | luckily for people like the khuilo, he doesn't care how many people he hurts | Aug 15 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's nice to see that we're at least following some kind of process to see what these candidates actually do first. | Aug 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I was slow to respond | Aug 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | as I was slseep while you highlighted me more than a dozen times | Aug 15 00:40 |
| schestowitz | thanks to COVID I've experimenting with sleeping several times a day instead of one long period of time | Aug 15 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They want something quickly just like everyone does, but if we pull out all the stops we can definitely get something that doesn't do a damned thing to the virus and the vaccine itself makes people very sick. | Aug 15 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Is Fauci connected to Gates? | Aug 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | I did not see much evidence? | Aug 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | other than a photo op when he stands next to Gates Sr. | Aug 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | maybe I am wrong and the connections run very deep | Aug 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Gates is VERY upset about the rumour mill | Aug 15 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci | Aug 15 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia | Aug 15 00:42 | |
| schestowitz | but he pretends that alone is the antagonism to his agenda | Aug 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | which is kind of funny | Aug 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | I know how to look up wikipedia | Aug 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | but it would not contain valuable info | Aug 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | not on sensitive topics such as this | Aug 15 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fauci has been in his current post since November 1984. | Aug 15 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So very nearly my entire life. | Aug 15 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This was before Microsoft was much of a thing really. | Aug 15 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Much less before Gates became a billionaire and started influence peddling. | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | One of those questions where, "CHECK WIKIPEDIA!" isn't the answer | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | EPO, Gates, Microsoft airbrush wikipedia | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | it's a PR apparatus to tem | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | *then | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | *them | Aug 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | So then we deal with questions like, did he get 'subverted' by Gates | Aug 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | which would be another question altogether | Aug 15 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.republicworld.com/fact-check/viral/fact-check-bill-gates-and-fauci-were-roommates.html | Aug 15 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.republicworld.com | Fact check: Were Bill Gate and Dr. Anthony Fauci roommates in college? - Republic World | Aug 15 00:44 | |
| schestowitz | False I take it? | Aug 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | college.. Gates | Aug 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | flunky bill | Aug 15 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | False according to this. People make so many accusations that it poisons search results. | Aug 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | studied "law" | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | like "dad" | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | didn't even finish | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | broke the law before and after | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the idea is to discedit accurate info | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | discredit | Aug 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | then just wave the hands in the air and say, ignore everything you read online, listen to Billness | Aug 15 00:45 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 5.9 Changes and Linux Plumbers Passes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140977 [https://pleroma.site/objects/df61c608-b808-46ac-b7fb-19dfeef1327e] | Aug 15 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: is erich still playing netkop in fedora while using Windows? | Aug 15 01:15 |
| schestowitz | any intel on the project? | Aug 15 01:15 |
| schestowitz | they're barely visible through their planet | Aug 15 01:15 |
| schestowitz | like... what the f's going on? | Aug 15 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't been paying attention. | Aug 15 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the current atmosphere, I don't see it continuing like this. | Aug 15 01:16 |
| schestowitz | ask them about aws move | Aug 15 01:17 |
| schestowitz | tell them you read aboyt it | Aug 15 01:17 |
| schestowitz | ask them what they know about it | Aug 15 01:17 |
| schestowitz | then judge by the reaction | Aug 15 01:17 |
| schestowitz | I just got ad hominem attacks when brought it up | Aug 15 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/tech/ibm-hybrid-cloud-investment/index.html | Aug 15 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CNN Business Exclusive: 109 year-old IBM is planning to take on Amazon. Here's how - CNN | Aug 15 01:18 | |
| schestowitz | like this http://techrights.org/2020/08/13/red-hat-on-red-hat/ | Aug 15 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Red Hat Response to Factual Information About Red Hat | Techrights | Aug 15 01:19 | |
| schestowitz | if it was false, they'd say it's false | Aug 15 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Government standard for return to work.. LOL | Aug 15 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the government has been able to command the economy every time it tried and that's why there have been absolutely no recessions in the US, and certainly never any botched recoveries that spanned a decade or more. | Aug 15 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, you know, you don't just tell people "Hey, there's this deadly virus, but you should risk your life to go buy junk because we say so!". | Aug 15 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Oh btw, here's no money and no job, so have fun with that." | Aug 15 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They act like people are hoarding money and that they're just being ridiculous. | Aug 15 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is this really how they see the "consumer"? Just an endless pit of money and when they don't spend it just means that they're being stubborn? | Aug 15 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it is, then that's an indicator of just how far removed the people who run the companies really are. | Aug 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | that's capitalism. It generally only worked when people 1) kept borrowing money 2) kept spending | Aug 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: we were in a dept. store 2 days ago | Aug 15 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: IBM isn't investing in Red Hat. They're chopping it for parts. | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | it was depressing ghost town | Aug 15 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This CNN article is horse shit. | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | barely any people | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | and those inside bought nothing | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | the "RL" stuff (which of course we don't buy) was just gathering dust | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | who at this time buys a pajama set for a hundred quid? | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | at this pace the whole shop will shut down | Aug 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | after who knows how long, maybe like a century | Aug 15 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The people in the stores at the mall are really leaning on people to buy things. Like, I asked if they had a t-shirt in my size and they were pressuring me to order it online. I said, "Oh, I have a computer at home.". | Aug 15 01:26 |
| schestowitz | maybe bezos wants to make all those buildings "warehouses" ('fulfillment') | Aug 15 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's like, "Oh, well we can get it in for you and then we get credited for the sale!" | Aug 15 01:26 |
| schestowitz | heck, maybe he'll employ people inside those containers from china | Aug 15 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're hurting bad. | Aug 15 01:26 |
| schestowitz | because who needs another sorting warehouse anyway, dispatch directly from containers that sweatshops sent | Aug 15 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can only imagine what Corporate is threatening them with if they don't get their sales up. | Aug 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | the cashiers are there like mannequins | Aug 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | they OUTNUMBER the customers | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | and it's soooo sooo quiet | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | you can just about feel the CCTV zooming in on you | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | as there's nobody else around | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | and you know they employ people to man those cameras and narrow down shoplifters | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | anyway, we bought 3 items at the end | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | reduced about 70% | Aug 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | it's possible to find things they really desperately want to dispose of | Aug 15 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/bankruptcies-companies-2020-retail | Aug 15 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | Coronavirus could push US bankruptcies to worst levels in 10 years | Fox Business | Aug 15 01:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of the companies filing bankruptcy just sold cheap garbage that pretty much nobody is buying now. | Aug 15 01:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Right now, all of the shit that's hitting the bankruptcy courts is what was hanging on by a thread anyway. | Aug 15 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Might be the biggest downsizing of retail square footage per American ever. | Aug 15 01:33 |
| schestowitz | not just America | Aug 15 01:33 |
| schestowitz | (US) | Aug 15 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I recall reading about 15 years ago that it was in a "ridiculously overbuilt" situation. | Aug 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | sad thing is, giants like Amazon can consolidate | Aug 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | no more seeing or trying what you buy | Aug 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | or buying anonymously | Aug 15 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Spreads itself too thin for its own good, then this happens and destroys more than it neds to. | Aug 15 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *needs | Aug 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | traceroute copr.fedorainfracloud.org | Aug 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | traceroute to copr.fedorainfracloud.org (3.81.0.123), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets | Aug 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | #amazon #aws #fedora #redhat #ibm | Aug 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | https://db-ip.com/all/3.81.0 | Aug 15 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-db-ip.com | 3.81.0 amazonaws.com - United States - Amazon.com, Inc. - Search IP addresses | Aug 15 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | I saw that in Planet Fedora just now | Aug 15 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, "the competition". | Aug 15 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yet, strangely, Red Hat is forcing Fedora to go host on it. | Aug 15 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How does that work | Aug 15 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "sad thing is, giants like Amazon"> Lots of WARN Act notices. | Aug 15 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon is cutting a lot of delivery contracts. | Aug 15 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With nothing to deliver from Amazon, the contracting companies fire their employees. | Aug 15 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something big is going on. | Aug 15 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could be Amazon just consolidating their contracts with bigger vendors to streamline. | Aug 15 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who knows? | Aug 15 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon doesn't want to be connected with the workers or the products that people sell on Amazon. | Aug 15 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Serious court ruling came down on Amazon yesterday. | Aug 15 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A federal court in California ruled that they're liable for product safety issues with stuff for sale on their marketplace. | Aug 15 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some lady bought a replacement laptop battery and it blew up and left her with third degree burns. | Aug 15 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon was trying to use the Uber Defense, claiming "We're just a tech company that hooks up customers with third party vendors." and the judge didn't go for it. | Aug 15 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's an Uber Defense for everything. Grindr does it too. | Aug 15 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Oh, we're sorry we hooked you up with Ted Bundy, but we're just a tech company that connects you with a hook up that could be a drug dealer, a cannibal, a police officer, or an underage minor." | Aug 15 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Don't call us if you get a disease, but please post your status here so we can tell Facebook!" | Aug 15 01:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If you use Grindr, you start getting PrEP ads and PrEP lawsuit ads on Facebook. | Aug 15 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ariadne: I don't suppose you noticed that? | Aug 15 01:51 |
| Ariadne | I use a VPN which blocks all ads | Aug 15 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both companies are the definition of shady shit, and you can't hold tech companies liable for anything apparently. | Aug 15 01:51 |
| Ariadne | I also don't use facebook | Aug 15 01:52 |
| Ariadne | nor do I use Grindr in any serious way | Aug 15 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ariadne: Take PrEP! Also, did you suffer kidney or bone damage because of PrEP? You may be entitled to compensation! | Aug 15 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Quest Diagnostics is seriously fucking up COVID-19 testing, and Bill Gates lashed out about it without naming them. | Aug 15 01:53 |
| Ariadne | my experience with Grindr is that the majority of users are bots | Aug 15 01:53 |
| Ariadne | or creepy grandpas | Aug 15 01:53 |
| Ariadne | or bros | Aug 15 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't surprise me though. They've given me false positive results for something and incorrect readings on electrolytes and my valproic acid levels, and their billing department is the seventh circle of hell. | Aug 15 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think their lab is contaminated or something. | Aug 15 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I would definitely get tested again before I let the doctor do anything with the initial results. | Aug 15 01:54 |
| Ariadne | in Wyoming all medical testing is done by the state lab | Aug 15 01:55 |
| Ariadne | there is no quest diagnostics it's pretty great | Aug 15 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's some twinks with a daddy fetish, but yes. For the most part nothing that any sane person would be interested in. | Aug 15 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, I'm glad I haven't had that app in well over a year now. | Aug 15 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John used fake accounts and various GPS tricks and stuff like that to help catfish people. | Aug 15 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure that since they demanded phone numbers it's put a serious crimp on his ability to make fake accounts to wait for everyone to block him so he can make another one and pester them some more. | Aug 15 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "in Wyoming all medical testing i"> Yeah, well the population of Wyoming is like one small Illinois county. | Aug 15 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's probably doable. | Aug 15 01:57 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's the go to state if you want to demonstrate why the electoral college is unfair. Wyoming has 3 electoral votes because it's the minimum, and Illinois has about 15 times as many people and only 20 electoral votes. | Aug 15 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you went with population, then using Wyoming as the baseline, Illinois should have 45 electoral votes, round about. | Aug 15 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bigger the population, the more people you need to add another vote. By the time you get to California, it takes the entire population of Wyoming to get 1 EV. | Aug 15 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's really little incentive for them to enlarge the House to compensate for that. It would dilute the power of the people who are already there. | Aug 15 02:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: link for amazon notices? | Aug 15 02:01 |
| schestowitz | i find that one interesting | Aug 15 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wyoming tried pulling that "We don't have a COVID-19 problem even without masks and a shutdown." bullshit. They're a very big.....county more than a state. | Aug 15 02:01 |
| schestowitz | as the media says nothing to that effect | Aug 15 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.ibtimes.com/amazon-liable-defective-marketplace-sales-after-judge-overturns-prior-ruling-3028592 | Aug 15 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Amazon Liable For Defective Marketplace Sales After Judge Overturns Prior Ruling | Aug 15 02:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, it was a state court. | Aug 15 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, California is really laying into those "We're just a tech company!" arguments. | Aug 15 02:04 |
| schestowitz | the warn act stuff | Aug 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | there's also gab's "We're just tech" argument | Aug 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | when people go about massacring people after getting radicalised | Aug 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | I have not heard anything about gab in like a year or longer | Aug 15 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/more-than-1200-amazon-delivery-drivers-laid-off.html | Aug 15 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | More than 1,200 Amazon delivery drivers laid off | Aug 15 02:11 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: 1,200 Amazon layoffs. | Aug 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | ty | Aug 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | good, too, in a sense | Aug 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | though I hope they find employment elsewhere | Aug 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | "start something new"-ivanka | Aug 15 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You think this has anything to do with Trump's war on the post office? | Aug 15 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know how they could compel Amazon though. The USPS doesn't have a monopoly on packages, just the mail. | Aug 15 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they said the package volume is what it normally is during Christmas. | Aug 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | just now: | Aug 15 02:13 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200811/07375045088/att-fires-hundreds-dc-hbo-execs-latest-example-merger-synergies.shtml | Aug 15 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AT&T Fires Hundreds Of DC, HBO Execs In Latest Example Of 'Merger Synergies' | Techdirt | Aug 15 02:13 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: | Aug 15 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | 92820 2165482 23150396 | Aug 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | almost 100k | Aug 15 02:14 |
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| Ariadne | DaemonFC[m]: the national popular vote interstate compact will solve this anyway | Aug 15 02:16 |
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| Ariadne | DaemonFC[m]: basically, once enough states agree to pledge their electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote, the electoral college goes away | Aug 15 02:17 |
| Ariadne | :D | Aug 15 02:17 |
| Ariadne | i mean, it does not "go away" but it becomes a formality | Aug 15 02:17 |
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| schestowitz | electoral college = some voters have more weight then others | Aug 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | US 'democracy' = our barons bribe the parties, look for something in return, shape the election maps to suit 'desirable' outcome and technically make it an impossibility for parties they don't control to gain foothold | Aug 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7U5JVk_y7U | Aug 15 02:24 |
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| Ariadne | the national popular vote interstate compact is a workaround for that issue | Aug 15 02:26 |
| Ariadne | but without making commercial lobbying illegal and requiring public finance of all elections, there will still be corruption | Aug 15 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm pretty sure the Democrats will pick up seats in the House again. | Aug 15 02:29 |
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| schestowitz | lesser evilism | Aug 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fairly certain Trump will lose. | Aug 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Senate could go either way. | Aug 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's the assessment that the Republican donors are making too. | Aug 15 02:29 |
| schestowitz | watch out, wall street and pentagon | Aug 15 02:29 |
| schestowitz | "D" is coming | Aug 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | to increase your bailouts and budget | Aug 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | just like "R" | Aug 15 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not giving any real money to House Republicans and they're even starting to really stiff Trump. | Aug 15 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're all in on the Senate because they see it as the best way to make sure nothing gets done under a President Biden. | Aug 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | he's trying to start tensions with Iran again | Aug 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | good pretext for postponing election | Aug 15 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the UN Security Council made it pretty clear he's totally on his own and it won't be a repeat of the Iraq mess. | Aug 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | throwing a spanner at usps seems to have backfired | Aug 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | there's not a bill to undo that sabotage | Aug 15 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The USPS wrote to 48 states warning them to change their deadlines for ballots or they couldn't guarantee on time delivery. | Aug 15 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois was one of them, even though they begin mailing ballots on the 24th of September and they only have to be postmarked by election day, November 3rd, as long as they arrive by the 17th. | Aug 15 02:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If the Post Office is warning that they might not be able to accommodate that, we have a serious problem. | Aug 15 02:33 |
| schestowitz | yup | Aug 15 02:33 |
| schestowitz | "da faq's wrong wif yo country?" | Aug 15 02:33 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I need you to help me research something | Aug 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | mostly the fedora aws thing | Aug 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | it's a big deal | Aug 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | the people 'in the know' about it are gaslighting the community | Aug 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | so-called 'community' | Aug 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | IBM doesn't know what that term even means | Aug 15 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, they've never had to deal with one before and they aren't about to start now. | Aug 15 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora is a holdover. | Aug 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | They already know I pursue these answers | Aug 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | so they would offer no additional info to me | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | but you can ask and judge the nature of replies | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | ask higher level workers | Aug 15 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even keeping Fedora around for propaganda value doesn't seem to be in the cards. | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | testers for free | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | if anyone still participates | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | koffler never replied to me | Aug 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | and the mail did not bounce, so the email address is likely valid | Aug 15 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple" on iPhone backdoors. | Aug 15 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple already turns over complete phone backups from iCloud, which it can decrypt just fine. | Aug 15 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there is already a backdoor and the rest of this crap is Kabuki Theater to get into the phone itself without asking Apple, whenever they want. | Aug 15 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Apple hasn't already built something like this in, they could and you couldn't refuse it, which is what's wrong with this picture in the first place. | Aug 15 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As we've seen already, there are automated reports and the entire warrant process is too lax as it is. | Aug 15 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're pissed off because right now, you could turn the backups off if you change a setting. | Aug 15 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they have to figure out how to break into the phone. | Aug 15 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Fourth Amendment isn't holding up so well. | Aug 15 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then again, which one of them is? The Third, I guess. | Aug 15 02:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That's why I wasn't really concerned about the probation too much. Everything you see these days is "In today's complete joke of a constitutional process.....". | Aug 15 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police figure out how to get people to talk. How to get someone to open the door and invite them in, etc. | Aug 15 02:51 |
| MinceR | (nasty paywall attempt) https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-mail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html | Aug 15 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | USPS warns 46 states, DC that delayed mail-in ballots could disenfranchise voters - The Washington Post | Aug 15 02:51 | |
| MinceR | (incognito seems to work nicely against this paywall) | Aug 15 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you live with anyone or they have guests over, and the police knock on your door, you're fucked. | Aug 15 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *you have guests over | Aug 15 02:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe you know to tell them to come back with a warrant, but the people who are over won't. | Aug 15 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've talked to the cops through the door before. It went "Got a warrant?" they say no....I say, "OK, get lost.". | Aug 15 02:53 |
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| schestowitz | [02:46] <DaemonFC[m]> So there is already a backdoor and the rest of this crap is Kabuki Theater to get into the phone itself without asking Apple, whenever they want. | Aug 15 02:57 |
| schestowitz | That's what Thomas Drake, NSA WBer, called it | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | but he then worked for Apple | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | after they blacklisted him from govt. jobs | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | [02:51] <DaemonFC[m]> The police figure out how to get people to talk. How to get someone to open the door and invite them in, etc. | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | if not the kind way, then blackmail and threats | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | based on falsehoods | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | e.g. "you're free to leave at any time" | Aug 15 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and most of it are threats to do things they can't do. | Aug 15 02:58 |
| schestowitz | and they get away with it | Aug 15 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Aren't even remotely possible, etc. | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | but you're never sure | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | and you don't even have it recorded | Aug 15 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't tell me the cops didn't know the absolute worst thing that could happen in court was a year in jail. | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | so it's your word against theirs | Aug 15 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said 2 years, 3 maybe. | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | even telling them, "can I record for my own protection" | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | They can assault you for asking | Aug 15 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said, "Or it can be a Disorderly Conduct if you cooperate.". | Aug 15 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't cooperate and it was a Disorderly Conduct. | Aug 15 02:59 |
| schestowitz | or, they can delete or seize the device if they do something embarrassing, to deny you access to evidence of it | Aug 15 03:00 |
| schestowitz | [02:53] <DaemonFC[m]> I've talked to the cops through the door before. It went "Got a warrant?" they say no....I say, "OK, get lost.". | Aug 15 03:00 |
| schestowitz | rudeness can be used as pretext of force against you | Aug 15 03:00 |
| schestowitz | better put it more politely | Aug 15 03:00 |
| schestowitz | I don't know UK and US laws too well, you seem to have experienced it first hand | Aug 15 03:02 |
| schestowitz | but I assume police cannot just barge in | Aug 15 03:02 |
| schestowitz | except if they get a warrant on drugs | Aug 15 03:02 |
| schestowitz | which they fear you might flush down the toilet | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | or grab a weapon | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | or encrypt your machine etc. | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | so it's a bit of a catch-22 | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | if you ask to see a warrant | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | they would more likely trick you | Aug 15 03:03 |
| schestowitz | did you read the case on Lauri Love | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, the cops pretended to be a parcel courier | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | once Lauri or his mom (can't recall) opened the door the cops came rushing in | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | so even that is a risk fator | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | *factor | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | you might think you open up to a postman | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | and then they come rushing in without even a technical "breach" | Aug 15 03:04 |
| schestowitz | if your email box has names of sources not expunged | Aug 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | or if pgp passphrase is in cache | Aug 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | then they can get to it fast enough to try to punish people who merely report corruption | Aug 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Lauri Love is a OK case | Aug 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | I have not seen Lauri Love in a while | Aug 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | he used to hang around online, twitter kept banning him | Aug 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | then he was in mastodon with a number of accounts for a few years | Aug 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if the US just abandoned the case and let him 'hang around'... no media reports on that anymore | Aug 15 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "except if they get a warrant on "> If they do a no knock warrant in Indiana and they panic you into shooting them because you can't tell who they are, it's covered under self-defense. | Aug 15 03:08 |
| schestowitz | (if the allegations are true, he's no harmless person; broke into a bunch of windows boxes in the US, but did no actual sabotage... just "for the lols" so to speak) | Aug 15 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They weren't happy about that. | Aug 15 03:08 |
| schestowitz | the courier loophole is naaaasty | Aug 15 03:09 |
| schestowitz | because it means you can no longer trust them | Aug 15 03:09 |
| schestowitz | if they are impersonators | Aug 15 03:09 |
| schestowitz | and if you have a spouse, they migth fall for it | Aug 15 03:09 |
| schestowitz | "oh, we have a parcel!" | Aug 15 03:09 |
| schestowitz | oh shit, "it's the cops!!" | Aug 15 03:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh good. My Amazon pack.....FUCK FUCK!! | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | with like half a dozen hiding in no plain sight | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | they park their vans far away from your home and form a swarm | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | "run before the postman leaves!!!!"" | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | "Open the door fast" | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | "or we have to walk all the way to the warehouse" | Aug 15 03:10 |
| schestowitz | one day postmen will get shot | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | by people who hide something and suspect they're actually cops | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | FBI also illegally impersonates | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | also on the phone | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | of course they get away with it | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | balance of threats | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | "this person was so dangerous, so what we did was justified..." | Aug 15 03:11 |
| schestowitz | but you get years in prison for impersonating them... even on the phone | Aug 15 03:12 |
| schestowitz | the balance of powers is all wrong | Aug 15 03:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that after the DoJ destroyed GirlsDoPorn, it had unintended consequences. | Aug 15 03:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody is around who has the copyrights anymore. They all went to jail. So it's a free for all, people posting them everywhere. | Aug 15 03:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | More exposure for the people who said they got out there and were tricked. | Aug 15 03:13 |
| schestowitz | BTW, on door breach, they can do test runs | Aug 15 03:13 |
| schestowitz | they can test to learn how to enter by social engineering | Aug 15 03:13 |
| schestowitz | either by observing from afar who answers the door and when | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | or doing a mock drill, "sorry, wrong house mate.." | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | do you know about laster microphones | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | laser | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I was amused when a BT engineer who came over asked me if I had heard of it | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I said yes | Aug 15 03:14 |
| schestowitz | not sure how accurate these are and from what distance | Aug 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | but I guess they use these in very exceptional circumstances, like those FBi xray vans that try to 'see through' your home | Aug 15 03:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw them advertised in a mail order catalog in the 90s. | Aug 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | they probably will get drones to do the same | Aug 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | didn't read about drones that do this already | Aug 15 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'm not sure if they work well. You're supposed to aim it at a window and you can hear what's going on inside. | Aug 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | yes, but must extrapolate a lot | Aug 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | and with double glazing I guess it gets trickier | Aug 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | because the things bounce through several layers | Aug 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | just in: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/08/13/armed-men-raid-minsk-offices-of-yandex-and-uber | Aug 15 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 15 03:17 | |
| schestowitz | armed, too... | Aug 15 03:20 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: like I said, feel free to ask around about Fedora | Aug 15 03:30 |
| schestowitz | it would make for an important exploratory piece | Aug 15 03:30 |
| schestowitz | though they may never admit the plan directly | Aug 15 03:30 |
| schestowitz | fear of being laid off by Big BLOOOO | Aug 15 03:30 |
| schestowitz | das nacht ist blau | Aug 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Let me see if I can do another Jones disclosure | Aug 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | must thing of an angle for it, cannot release these pdfs as raw | Aug 15 03:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #Trump Declares #USPS Can’t Handle Mail-In Voting Because He’s Blocking Funding https://truthout.org/articles/trump-declares-usps-cant-handle-mail-in-voting-because-hes-blocking-funding/ | Aug 15 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump Declares USPS Can't Handle Mail-In Voting Because He's Blocking Funding | Aug 15 03:34 | |
| schestowitz | “This is crazy by any standard. The president of the United States is actively trying to sabotage the election.” https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/13/just-comes-right-out-and-says-it-trump-declares-postal-service-cant-handle-mail | Aug 15 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Just Comes Out and Says It': Trump Declares Postal Service Can't Handle Mail-In Voting Because He's Blocking Funding | Common Dreams News | Aug 15 03:34 | |
| schestowitz | trying to find 'sick' filenames | Aug 15 03:36 |
| schestowitz | to show what he was into | Aug 15 03:36 |
| schestowitz | D:\ricks folder\Kerri @ Leilani Lanes 2 15 | Aug 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | 2006.JPG | Aug 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | That's his sister | Aug 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | Kerri, whom he spoke to over gmail | Aug 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | she has an email account named there too | Aug 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: do you want to send her an email | Aug 15 03:38 |
| schestowitz | assuming she still uses that same address? | Aug 15 03:38 |
| schestowitz | you might be able to pick intel' on her brother | Aug 15 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not from an email address I want to keep. | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | (side note: I have a cousin called Leilani in Florida) | Aug 15 03:39 |
| MinceR | sick filename, bro! | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I could give examples | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | but I was hoping to find some zoophile crap | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | to really embarrass them | Aug 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | (the Gates household) | Aug 15 03:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 15 03:40 |
| schestowitz | "D:\\Alexey&Garik_Pissing_004.jpg" | Aug 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: "Case Reference: 14-22121 Item 6_CD label 2" | Aug 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | Would that be a CD in his room? | Aug 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | external, portable media | Aug 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | could be copied to any machine, anywhere... | Aug 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | "D:\\Ivan_Pissing_003.jpg" | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | "D:\\Ivan_Pissing_006.jpg' | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe we found our own pissgate | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | or urinegate | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | no tapes | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | just CDs | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | D:\\Raul_Pissing_003.jpg | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | D:\\Raul_Pissing_005.jpg | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 15 03:42 |
| schestowitz | "D:\\Yaroslav_Pissing_001.jpg" | Aug 15 03:43 |
| schestowitz | for trump they called it "peegate" iirc | Aug 15 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rick is into Russian Pee Pee Parties, like the president. | Aug 15 03:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah, lots of Russian names in there | Aug 15 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe he likes them a little younger and male, but yeah. | Aug 15 03:43 |
| schestowitz | or eastern european | Aug 15 03:43 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned it before | Aug 15 03:43 |
| schestowitz | How's this: | Aug 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | The Real Peegate is on External Media of Bill Gates' Engineer, Arrested Over Pedophilia | Aug 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | and then give examples | Aug 15 03:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems Russians don't really come down hard on child pornographers. | Aug 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | was it called "peegate"? | Aug 15 03:44 |
| schestowitz | wrt Trump? | Aug 15 03:45 |
| MinceR | tea party -> pee party | Aug 15 03:45 |
| schestowitz | let me check | Aug 15 03:45 |
| schestowitz | https://newrepublic.com/article/139806/even-pee-gate-isnt-true-donald-trump-stuck-it | Aug 15 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newrepublic.com | Even if Pee-gate isn’t true, Donald Trump is stuck with it. | The New Republic | Aug 15 03:45 | |
| schestowitz | yes, pee-gate with a dash | Aug 15 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/img_0383.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780 | Aug 15 03:46 |
| MinceR | "i'd never pay to have a garbanzo bean on my face" | Aug 15 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems the Supreme Court is not in the mood to get in the way of how states interpret their election laws. | Aug 15 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump sued Rhode Island trying to re-impose the requirement of a sworn witness signing your absentee ballot. | Aug 15 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Supreme Court said Rhode Island can run their election without that requirement because none of the state officials in charge of the election want to impose it. | Aug 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The next one up is Pennsylvania. | Aug 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A double whammy. | Aug 15 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump is suing to prevent them from sidestepping the postal log jam by setting up secured ballot boxes that you can put your ballot into, and is trying to make sure that the deadline for the state to receive the ballot is election day and that they don't try to change it to "postmarked by election day". | Aug 15 03:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The secured ballot box lawsuit is in a federal court, and a judge that he appointed got pissed off with the Trump Campaign and demanded proof that this would lead to fraud and gave them one day (today) to provide it or else face a default ruling for the state. | Aug 15 03:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The deadline lawsuit is going to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and the majority is Democrats. | Aug 15 03:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's looking like the $27 million dollars budgeted by the campaign to sue states in order to impose more restrictions on voting is fizzling out fast. | Aug 15 03:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Republican judges are deferring to what the states want to do and throwing out the lawsuits. | Aug 15 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the prong of using the courts to rig the election doesn't seem to be going anywhere. | Aug 15 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When he loses these lawsuits, the courts can make his campaign pay the state's expenses, so yeah. | Aug 15 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This was a big waste of money that can't be used by the actual campaign. | Aug 15 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Perhaps 4-5% of the total campaign spend. | Aug 15 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, in 24 hours after announcing Kamala Harris, Biden pulled in $36 million for his campaign. | Aug 15 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's been pulling in about $50-55 million in a month. | Aug 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty clear that Trump will be outspent on the campaign. | Aug 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's bad is that the Republicans learned their lesson from their joke of a digital advertising campaign in 2008 and 2012. | Aug 15 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They now know how to use Facebook to spread all sorts of lies and deceit and nobody will stop them. | Aug 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also claim they have lots of volunteers on the ground knocking doors in person during a pandemic. | Aug 15 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We'll see how that turns out. | Aug 15 03:58 |
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| schestowitz | is is fair to state CD-ROM is "portable media without journaling" | Aug 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 15 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Just want to make sure I get all the i's and t's crossed right | Aug 15 04:02 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: did esptein folks have any peegate related revelations? | Aug 15 04:11 |
| schestowitz | I did not follow these things | Aug 15 04:11 |
| schestowitz | but it would not surprise me | Aug 15 04:11 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to search around those terms | Aug 15 04:11 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | I just thought of a game of words | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | pee-gates | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | gate | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | gates | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | I'll put that in URL slug | Aug 15 04:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: want to read over it? | Aug 15 04:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/pee-gates/ | Aug 15 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real ‘Pee-gate’ Was on External (Portable) Media of Bill Gates’ Engineer, Arrested Over Pedophilia at the Gates Mansion | Techrights | Aug 15 04:22 | |
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| Ariadne | iso9660 FS is not journaled | Aug 15 04:36 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: thanks | Aug 15 04:44 |
| Ariadne | signed the contract for new colo in HE fremont-2, which will replace fibershit | Aug 15 04:50 |
| Ariadne | going to deploy ARM machines | Aug 15 04:51 |
| Ariadne | no more x86 | Aug 15 04:51 |
| Ariadne | fuck x86 | Aug 15 04:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Security holes. Security holes, everywhere! | Aug 15 05:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Also, fake security features that take up transistors. | Aug 15 05:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose it's plausible that someone will find a use case for AVX-512. | Aug 15 05:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Never where latency matters. | Aug 15 05:04 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200813/08060745103/amc-theaters-risk-death-disability-to-watch-movie-reruns-15-cents.shtml | Aug 15 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMC Theaters: Risk Death And Disability To Watch Movie Reruns For 15 Cents! | Techdirt | Aug 15 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | I like this title | Aug 15 05:12 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: no more ME and PSP | Aug 15 05:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was considering going to that. | Aug 15 05:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're doing a partial seating thing where there's 3 seats separating each group. | Aug 15 05:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know some asshole is going to cause trouble though. | Aug 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, btw, the people demanding that I be banned from this room for disorderly conduct :) were the same ones who had a little sockpuppet thing going on in various forums who referred to you as shitzferwitz, if memory serves me right. (2009 ish) | Aug 15 05:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems rather non-organic that there's a "movement" to discredit a guy with a blog, basically. | Aug 15 05:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who would sit and devote time to that, much less as a group? | Aug 15 05:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Disorderly Conduct. Be polite! It's the law! Except when it's not..... | Aug 15 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd think they'd be out there every day citing all the Karens with it, wouldn't you? | Aug 15 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Karen police. The Karen no longer wishes to speak with the manager, or the police, and especially not the police manager. | Aug 15 05:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: where was that? | Aug 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | (in 2009) | Aug 15 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Twitter maybe? | Aug 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't quite follow... | Aug 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | when? where? | Aug 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | context? | Aug 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | you talked about AMC | Aug 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was looking at it the other day and then I forgot. | Aug 15 05:21 |
| schestowitz | and then something else completely | Aug 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone was complaining about me on Twitter and you said oh yeah we're thinking about getting rid of him for his disorderly conduct. | Aug 15 05:21 |
| schestowitz | when? 2009? | Aug 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 15 05:22 |
| schestowitz | I cannot remember what you did | Aug 15 05:22 |
| schestowitz | but it must have been quite serious, you did go rather crazy at times | Aug 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I was not taking my medicine. | Aug 15 05:23 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I lost my health insurance and the best I could do was going to this shitty clinic where they gave me something that put me in the hospital with a seizure. | Aug 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, in 2009. The seizure that Maricel is going to have the state of Illinois take my license over, don'tcha know. | Aug 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because Maricel is the legislature and the governor of Illinois and can totally change the "within the last 12 months" part of the law specifically for me. | Aug 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They had me on lithium and prozac I think. Crummy generics that there were to treat bipolar disorder 11 years ago. | Aug 15 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The patent expirations in the last 10 years have made more modern alternatives affordable. | Aug 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think going on lithium and prozac actually just made me stranger. | Aug 15 05:27 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: "but trustzone!!!!" x86 people say, not realizing that trustzone is literally open source | Aug 15 05:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That's the problem with being mentally ill. Eventually they adjust your medication and you'll think of something you did years ago and go "Holy shit, dude.....". | Aug 15 05:28 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: like. literally, it is open source. https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware | Aug 15 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware: Read-only mirror of Trusted Firmware-A | Aug 15 05:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | You won't think it was odd or feel ashamed or embarrassed until like 20 years later when that person is dead already or something. | Aug 15 05:28 |
| Ariadne | you can audit it, and even build your own trustzone blob if you want | Aug 15 05:28 |
| Ariadne | BSD license and everything | Aug 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, that's definitely an improvement. | Aug 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedoras "Yeah, we're not happy about it either, but it's what there is." policy on firmware managed to evolve into "Yeah, we have proprietary software repos and we host on Amazon. What the hell? It's rude to say Nvidia crashes Linux a lot. CoC!!!!!". | Aug 15 05:31 |
| Ariadne | the problem isn't having a system controller (that is actually good) | Aug 15 05:31 |
| Ariadne | the problem is that the system controller firmware on x86 is not open source and is not user replacable | Aug 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The thing about the Snap store is I went to install one I actually did want and it failed to start. | Aug 15 05:31 |
| Ariadne | i can use whatever trustzone firmware i want, and even have UEFI with components i've built myself | Aug 15 05:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wanted GZDoom and it complains about some deprecated KDE file dialog. Fixed upstream, but the guy hasn't fixed the Snap yet. | Aug 15 05:32 |
| Ariadne | namely, the system firmware i am running on my honeycomb, i built from source, including trustzone | Aug 15 05:32 |
| Ariadne | so "but trustzone" is a fallacy really | Aug 15 05:32 |
| Ariadne | i even have trusted boot, where the firmware is signed with keys i control | Aug 15 05:33 |
| Ariadne | and i even measure the boot using a yubikey | Aug 15 05:33 |
| Ariadne | it is pretty great | Aug 15 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's unbelievable that the FSF was promoting "Secure Boot" when there's actually no user control over it at all other than on/off with Microsoft's keys on most systems. | Aug 15 05:33 |
| Ariadne | secure boot can be good, if you control the keyring | Aug 15 05:33 |
| Ariadne | but | Aug 15 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're just going to ignore that, apparently, and hope things don't get worse. | Aug 15 05:34 |
| Ariadne | yeah if it is microsoft's keyring, that is useless :) | Aug 15 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora was the first distribution to do that. | Aug 15 05:34 |
| Ariadne | or ARM's keyring | Aug 15 05:34 |
| Ariadne | you can only have secure boot if you sign the payloads yourself | Aug 15 05:34 |
| Ariadne | otherwise it is "lol microsoft or ARM say this is secure boot" | Aug 15 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now with Kernel Lockdown, Secure Boot actually breaks things. | Aug 15 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Including Hibernation. | Aug 15 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Every time KDE tries to Hibernate, you get an error message in the Journal. | Aug 15 05:35 |
| Ariadne | weird | Aug 15 05:35 |
| Ariadne | you would think they would configure lockdown to allow for that | Aug 15 05:35 |
| Ariadne | but fedora's positions on security features is inconsistent | Aug 15 05:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say it's because restoring from hibernate actually basically launches a new kernel, like kexec, and you can't "trust" that. | Aug 15 05:35 |
| Ariadne | sure you can | Aug 15 05:36 |
| Ariadne | just sign the hibernation state | Aug 15 05:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say there's no mechanism for doing that. | Aug 15 05:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's just broken. :P | Aug 15 05:36 |
| Ariadne | write one :) | Aug 15 05:36 |
| schestowitz | [05:28] <Ariadne> schestowitz: like. literally, it is open source. https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware | Aug 15 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware: Read-only mirror of Trusted Firmware-A | Aug 15 05:39 | |
| schestowitz | hosted by proprietary platform :-) | Aug 15 05:39 |
| schestowitz | [05:33] <DaemonFC[m]> It's unbelievable that the FSF was promoting "Secure Boot" when there's actually no user control over it at all other than on/off with Microsoft's keys on most systems. | Aug 15 05:40 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat and Intel paid FSF at the time | Aug 15 05:40 |
| schestowitz | So I don't discount this as a factor | Aug 15 05:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200811/01014745087/scientists-forced-to-change-names-human-genes-because-microsofts-failure-to-patch-excel.shtml | Aug 15 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scientists Forced To Change Names Of Human Genes Because Of Microsoft's Failure To Patch Excel | Techdirt | Aug 15 05:48 | |
| schestowitz | yeah, we linked to that | Aug 15 05:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: want to read about gsoc? | Aug 15 05:50 |
| schestowitz | it's a draft now.. | Aug 15 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | yeah | Aug 15 05:50 |
| schestowitz | here, quickly! http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/summer-of-code/ | Aug 15 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Summer of Code or Nuclear Winter? | Techrights | Aug 15 05:52 | |
| schestowitz | must be typos there | Aug 15 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks okay. | Aug 15 05:58 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Aug 15 05:58 |
| schestowitz | I made slight amendments | Aug 15 05:58 |
| schestowitz | for clarity | Aug 15 05:58 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: do you know of tricks for nightly backups that don't choke up a site? we already nice sqldumps and gzip to the max | Aug 15 06:00 |
| Ariadne | nope :p | Aug 15 06:00 |
| schestowitz | unless we have ha with two instances we can't isolated live from backup | Aug 15 06:01 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: if you need me to write a letter for asylum/immigration application, rianne and I are here | Aug 15 06:01 |
| schestowitz | we also owe you some monies | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | nah i am going to use the DAFT | Aug 15 06:02 |
| schestowitz | what an acronym | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | i have a holding company for all of my things | Aug 15 06:02 |
| schestowitz | named after "the donald" | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | just transfer my enterprises to netherlands | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | and i'm in | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | :) | Aug 15 06:02 |
| schestowitz | that's kind of daft... | Aug 15 06:02 |
| Ariadne | DAFT allows you essentially to buy a visa | Aug 15 06:02 |
| schestowitz | like a man who pays someone to sit his SATs | Aug 15 06:03 |
| Ariadne | yes | Aug 15 06:03 |
| Ariadne | the irony is not lost on me | Aug 15 06:03 |
| Ariadne | but seems like the easiest way to deal with immigration | Aug 15 06:03 |
| schestowitz | they don't want people to become "burden" on "the system" | Aug 15 06:03 |
| schestowitz | so they ask about medical insurance, income etc. | Aug 15 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "dependents" | Aug 15 06:03 |
| Ariadne | yes, and DAFT allows you to demonstrate that you have your own ability to support yourself | Aug 15 06:04 |
| Ariadne | :) | Aug 15 06:04 |
| Ariadne | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAFT | Aug 15 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | DAFT - Wikipedia | Aug 15 06:04 | |
| schestowitz | the rest is paperwork and bureaucracy, testing one's patience and persistence to weed out 'immigration trolls' | Aug 15 06:04 |
| schestowitz | took thiel just 2 weeks in NZ to buy a citizenship there | Aug 15 06:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe his "intelligence" told him something about the future of the Trumpland he sponsors | Aug 15 06:05 |
| Ariadne | my intelligence is telling me that we are about to enter a time of evangelical fascism | Aug 15 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8627191/New-CCTV-footage-emerges-looting-Sunglass-Hut-night-violence-Chicago.html | Aug 15 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | New CCTV footage emerges of a looting at a Sunglass Hut in night of violence in Chicago | Daily Mail Online | Aug 15 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "reparations" | Aug 15 06:05 |
| Ariadne | i think i would like to continue existing | Aug 15 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 15 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, eh, they got Luxottica. Good. | Aug 15 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The eyeglass cartel. | Aug 15 06:06 |
| Ariadne | honestly fuck sunglass hut | Aug 15 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Makes cheap eyeglasses, sells them to Maricel and the family for $1,000 a pair. | Aug 15 06:06 |
| gde33 | they map the essential occupations now, everyone else can go now | Aug 15 06:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eyeglass prices are ridiculous everywhere but Zenni, and possibly Walmart now that I have a 20% discount on there. | Aug 15 06:07 |
| Ariadne | gde33: i happen to already provide essential services to the dutch government so :) | Aug 15 06:11 |
| schestowitz | how much to manufacture a pair? | Aug 15 06:11 |
| schestowitz | with all the ridiculous design patents and whatnot? | Aug 15 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I never buy a pair for more than a paid of pounds | Aug 15 06:12 |
| schestowitz | which is already quadruples production and shipping costs | Aug 15 06:12 |
| schestowitz | *pair of pounds | Aug 15 06:12 |
| schestowitz | even at M&S clearance they're sometimes disposed of at like 2 pounds | Aug 15 06:12 |
| schestowitz | just need to be patient | Aug 15 06:13 |
| gde33 | Ariadne: I'm offically useful too now! | Aug 15 06:13 |
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| Ariadne | gde33: in fact, this would just be a transfer of an already existent US entity to NL. the europeans should be thrilled :) | Aug 15 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "how much to manufacture a pair?"> Maybe a few bucks. Maricel is just an idiot. | Aug 15 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Herr derr. Let's work for a week to buy a pair of eyeglasses. Derrr. | Aug 15 06:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They sucker people in with free eye exams so they don't have to give you your prescription, since you didn't pay for the exam. | Aug 15 06:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just pay $50 for an exam and get your prescription. | Aug 15 06:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The $35 pairs at Zenni are actually quite good. | Aug 15 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason they're even that much is because I got polycarbonate lenses and clip ons to use on sunny days. | Aug 15 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/investing/curevac-ipo-coronavirus-vaccine-bill-melinda-gates/index.html | Aug 15 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill and Melinda Gates-backed coronavirus vaccine maker soars in Wall Street debut - CNN | Aug 15 06:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: MOAR Bill Gates news. Notice it doesn't say how he profits from this. Just that he "backs" it. | Aug 15 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not getting a Coronavirus vaccine until we know what we're dealing with. | Aug 15 06:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-lake-county-private-schools-st-0815-20200814-niypbsrydbcmhh5ge3how5k4f4-story.html | Aug 15 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Private schools in Lake County preparing for in-person classes in coronavirus era - Chicago Tribune | Aug 15 06:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Parents generally send their kids to private school on top of the taxes that they already pay because public schools are a disaster. | Aug 15 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not a recent thing either. They blame school vouchers but those are a very small part of it. | Aug 15 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, since they're doing in person and most of them are church affiliated, guess who they go home and infect. | Aug 15 06:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they'll go mingle at church. | Aug 15 06:44 |
| gde33 | Ricardo Semler discovered that old people should run schools. No one wants them for anything and they have experience | Aug 15 06:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://futurism.com/the-byte/star-moving-fast-warps-spacetime | Aug 15 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | This Star Is Moving So Fast it Visibly Warps Spacetime | Aug 15 06:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "When two objects — like S62 and scientists stationed on Earth — move at different speeds, they measure the passage of time differently. Scientists watching S62 will see it take a longer amount of time tor each its destination than a passenger on the actual star would." | Aug 15 06:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, if someone was on a star they'd be dead, so. | Aug 15 06:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Demolition Man on AMC, MinceR | Aug 15 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone has a sense of humor. | Aug 15 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The NYPD police union endorsed Trump. | Aug 15 07:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Heh, well, they're getting a $1 billion dollar budget cut so less members soon. | Aug 15 07:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Austin, TX cut the police budget by a third. ($150 million) | Aug 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: just published http://techrights.org/2020/08/15/philanthropy-of-bill-and-jeffrey/ | Aug 15 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Employee Explains the Deception, Lies, and ‘Philanthropy’ of Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights | Aug 15 07:21 | |
| schestowitz | summary and title are mine | Aug 15 07:21 |
| schestowitz | can you have a quick look? | Aug 15 07:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "without the foundation, Melinda Gates, his wife, being aware of it." | Aug 15 07:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | without the foundation or Melinda Gates, his wife, being aware of it. | Aug 15 07:28 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Aug 15 07:30 |
| schestowitz | will amend | Aug 15 07:30 |
| schestowitz | did you see http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/pee-gates/ by the way? | Aug 15 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real ‘Pee-gate’ Was on External (Portable) Media of Bill Gates’ Engineer, Arrested Over Pedophilia at the Gates Mansion | Techrights | Aug 15 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | maybe there's no trump peegate | Aug 15 07:32 |
| schestowitz | but there's a peegates | Aug 15 07:33 |
| schestowitz | his engineer | Aug 15 07:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Even more suspicious, Gates wasn’t exactly alone in his friendship with Epstein though as others in his circle that were quite close to Epstein too." | Aug 15 07:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even more suspicious, Gates wasn’t exactly alone in his friendship with Epstein, as others in his circle were quite close to Epstein. | Aug 15 07:36 |
| schestowitz | remove "that"? | Aug 15 07:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just reads a bit weird | Aug 15 07:36 |
| schestowitz | ok, will rewrite | Aug 15 07:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Needs a tweak. | Aug 15 07:36 |
| schestowitz | done | Aug 15 07:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Melanie Walker, of the Gates Foundation and the significant other of Steven Sinofsky was also a long-time friend of Epstein as well as Prince Andrew unironically." | Aug 15 07:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Run-on sentence. | Aug 15 07:39 |
| schestowitz | how to put it? | Aug 15 07:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Melanie Walker, of the Gates Foundation, who is also the significant other of Steven Sinofsky, was also a long-time friend of Epstein. As was Prince Andrew, unironically." | Aug 15 07:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose.... | Aug 15 07:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "On top of meeting with the likes of Epstein behind his wife’s back, keeping the same friends as Epstein, and lying about it while hiding behind his lawyers and PR people, Bill Gates did something else entirely out of character and subsequently suspicious by simply deviating greatly from his operational security and a well-established pattern of flying on his own jets by flying with Epstein on one of his jets to | Aug 15 07:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida instead." | Aug 15 07:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This needs to be split up. | Aug 15 07:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "blood of his type waiting for him at many of his destinations as if he were a Bond villain" | Aug 15 07:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No criticism, just whoa. | Aug 15 07:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sounds like an episode of Breaking Bad. | Aug 15 07:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Desperate for what?" is the real question, though. | Aug 15 07:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems like a pause to encourage thought. | Aug 15 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Re: Feedback Welcome: Bill Gates & Jeffrey Epstein: Deception, Lies, and Philanthrop | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > Enjoy! | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > Not that it really matters when considering that he was hanging out with the likes of Epstein for “philanthropic purposes” behind the back of his wife and his foundation, what do you think the odds are of Bill Gates jets being flight ready and available during his flight with Epstein? | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > Something tells me that 2020 is just getting warmed up... | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | I asked some people if they think Gates is guilty (I lean towards "no" myself) and they say "yes". | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Some amendments were made to your copy of the text for clarify mostly... :-) | Aug 15 07:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: let me see how to rewrite that bit | Aug 15 07:51 |
| schestowitz | Mr. Lewis will see the diffs | Aug 15 07:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Further and given his Bond villain-esque operational security, including but not limited to redundant private jets and armed guards 24/7, along with Jeffrey Epstein’s reputation, hence Gates initial denial, there are few legitimate circumstances, if any at all, that would force the likes of Bill Gates onto Epstein’s private jet and Gates has yet to provide a single justification for doing so as of yet." | Aug 15 07:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's another knuckle biter. | Aug 15 07:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "When combined, the lying, the sneaking around, their mutual friends, their inexplicable flight, his hiding behind PR/legal, their lacking explanations, and the fact that Bill Gates was doing all of this while with Jeffrey Epstein, the most notorious pedophile in human history, Gates’ behavior is no less suspicious and confounding than Prince Andrews, if not worse, and his stated benevolent motivations do not even | Aug 15 07:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | come close to aligning with his behavior." | Aug 15 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > [07:43] <DaemonFC[m]> "On top of meeting with the likes of Epstein behind his wife’s back, keeping the same friends as Epstein, and lying about it while hiding behind his lawyers and PR people, Bill Gates did something else entirely out of character and subsequently suspicious by simply deviating greatly from his operational security and a well-established pattern of flying on his own jets by flying with Epstein on one of his jets | Aug 15 07:54 |
| schestowitz | to | Aug 15 07:54 |
| schestowitz | I see no editing of the original in your quote, only the one before that | Aug 15 07:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "When combined, the lying, the sneaking around, their mutual friends, their inexplicable flight, his hiding behind PR/legal, their lacking explanations, and the fact that Bill Gates was doing all of this while with Jeffrey Epstein (the most notorious pedophile in human history) Gates’ behavior is no less suspicious and confounding than Prince Andrews. If not worse... His stated benevolent motivations do not even co | Aug 15 07:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | close to aligning with his behavior." | Aug 15 07:54 |
| schestowitz | This line from you is also unchanged, so I assume no amendments suggested in it >>>[07:52] <DaemonFC[m]> "Further and given his Bond villain-esque | Aug 15 07:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's one I just didn't do anything with. | Aug 15 07:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's too long. | Aug 15 07:58 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Aug 15 07:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "and Gates has yet to provide a single justification for doing so as of yet." | Aug 15 07:59 |
| schestowitz | I edited to incorporate your last suggestion | Aug 15 07:59 |
| schestowitz | I superimposed with undo/redo to see the difference, going back and forth | Aug 15 07:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe end the sentence before "and" and then make "Gates has yet to provide a single justification for doing so as of yet." its own sentence. | Aug 15 07:59 |
| schestowitz | ok, done | Aug 15 08:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks a lot, let's hope it can reach 100k people | Aug 15 08:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yep. | Aug 15 08:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | English class was a while back but I ghost wrote a paper and did well enough on it. | Aug 15 08:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I guess I haven't gotten too rusty. | Aug 15 08:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The professor only pointed out one small mistake. | Aug 15 08:02 |
| schestowitz | when I quote you I rarely need to edit | Aug 15 08:03 |
| schestowitz | you get the spelling and grammar right the first time around, unlike oiaohm :-) | Aug 15 08:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I never have any trouble figuring out which posts are his on Phoronix forums. | Aug 15 08:04 |
| schestowitz | he said he was dyslectic | Aug 15 08:04 |
| schestowitz | (iirc) | Aug 15 08:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That makes sense. | Aug 15 08:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm is OK, he's a longstanding lurker here | Aug 15 08:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hopefully he doesn't worship the devil. He'll sell his soul to Santa. | Aug 15 08:07 |
| schestowitz | we like him as he is, even though he's playing devil's advocate for monopolies at times | Aug 15 08:07 |
| schestowitz | not just here, in phoronix forums too | Aug 15 08:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nearly-third-americans-had-unpaid-housing-bills-august | Aug 15 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Nearly A Third Of Americans Had Unpaid Housing Bills In August | Zero Hedge | Aug 15 08:07 | |
| schestowitz | whoa | Aug 15 08:08 |
| schestowitz | third | Aug 15 08:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is something that can't be fixed at this point. | Aug 15 08:08 |
| schestowitz | I read this would happen | Aug 15 08:08 |
| schestowitz | back in May | Aug 15 08:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government would go broke trying to bail this out, and the banks will fail if they don't. | Aug 15 08:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, lots of people will be homeless. | Aug 15 08:08 |
| schestowitz | trump and oligarchs won't bail out the unemployed, only themselves. | Aug 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | their workers? OK. | Aug 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | But they have salaries | Aug 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | and can pay bills | Aug 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | Not working? | Aug 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | "Not my problem," said the oligarch | Aug 15 08:10 |
| schestowitz | the nation is in a tailspin at this point and riots are responded to by ARMED police | Aug 15 08:10 |
| schestowitz | gas and bullets | Aug 15 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne said she was gassed last night, as a mere passer inside a vehicle | Aug 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | anyone 'suspicious'... abduct, gas, demoralise | Aug 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | [07:07] <DaemonFC[m]> The NYPD police union endorsed Trump | Aug 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | Ask this union is it also believed in elections | Aug 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | because Trump doesn't want elections | Aug 15 08:12 |
| schestowitz | /is/if/ | Aug 15 08:12 |
| schestowitz | /believed/believes/ | Aug 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The $1 billion a year in cuts to the NYPD probably just means less money flowing into the union, which goes to Republicans. | Aug 15 08:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The city's finances are in terrible trouble. | Aug 15 08:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like Chicago. | Aug 15 08:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have the cops out pulling overtime to protect expensive sunglasses. | Aug 15 08:13 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: My english is a mess. Yes I was dyslexic in fact still is if tested hard enough I started worse class I would screw up 2 letter words. Next that brings fun I do reading in multi eras of english documents including ones that are raw translations from latin that really does a number on your grammar rules. | Aug 15 08:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the english grammar rules are not in fact constant country to country either. | Aug 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | Guest Article: A Tale of Possible #Surveillance http://techrights.org/2020/08/15/pi-surveillance/ #figosdev #techrights #newengland #privacy | Aug 15 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Article: A Tale of Possible Surveillance | Techrights | Aug 15 08:56 | |
| schestowitz | [08:13] <DaemonFC[m]> They have the cops out pulling overtime to protect expensive sunglasses. | Aug 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | I like that sentence | Aug 15 08:56 |
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| schestowitz | but you mean overpriced | Aug 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | they're not expensive to make and sell | Aug 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | the margins are insane, and barely account for the marketing (brainwash) budget | Aug 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | that's how one French billionaire passed $100BN in total worth | Aug 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | selling people SNEAKERS for 700 dollars a pair | Aug 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | (Arnault) | Aug 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/11/21/breton-and-100-billion-man/ | Aug 15 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Thierry and the $100 Billion Man | Techrights | Aug 15 08:58 | |
| schestowitz | these bastards have infiltrated the EU/EC | Aug 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | through their friends and facilitators | Aug 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | we're becoming like US political system little by little... | Aug 15 08:58 |
| DarwinElf | it's completely like it now; you're not really a country anymore, but a state people can travel through borders freely, under EU law as much as 'country' law: EU actually has been one nation since sometime in '00s if you read the treaties... | Aug 15 09:07 |
| DarwinElf | 'state like US state' | Aug 15 09:07 |
| DarwinElf | before that, EU was a confederation; now it's a federation... | Aug 15 09:07 |
| DarwinElf | that's why they're threatening Austria for wanting to stay Austrian, and Eastern Europe (who knows about such situations from USSR) same... | Aug 15 09:08 |
| DarwinElf | "'10s" | Aug 15 09:09 |
| DarwinElf | maybe different topic (but related.) For a moment I thought I was in a different channel talking to someone saying similar things about EU, and especially Germany... | Aug 15 09:10 |
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| brendyyn | roy actually took a stab at gates and his wife for doing a good job educating their children about sex... ok....... | Aug 15 12:37 |
| schestowitz | #billgates is NOT a #vaccine expert but a vaccine #PROFITEER (all about monopoly and control) https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/investing/curevac-ipo-coronavirus-vaccine-bill-melinda-gates/index.html | Aug 15 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill and Melinda Gates-backed coronavirus vaccine maker soars in Wall Street debut - CNN | Aug 15 12:48 | |
| schestowitz | brendyyn: notice the ages | Aug 15 12:48 |
| schestowitz | when I was in school you had to be about 12 to be formally taught anything | Aug 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz | mostly because girls were starting to mature and possibly 'bleed', so it makes sense to explain or warn them in advance | Aug 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz | for men, public hair was either starting to grow or about to grow | Aug 15 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Melinda talks about age 7 | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | who talks to kids at age 7 about sex? | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Just a little unusual, I'd say... | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Like many kids my age, at one point by mistake we found pornographic magazine | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | which someone discarded in nature | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | and to children at particular ages this is baffling | Aug 15 12:50 |
| schestowitz | brendyyn: do you know schools that teach "sex education" at grade 1? | Aug 15 12:51 |
| schestowitz | "so, .... today, kids... we teach the alphabet... then sex, then basic calculus like 4+5" | Aug 15 12:51 |
| brendyyn | becuase its a perfectly normal human thing. talking to a 7 year old is fine | Aug 15 12:52 |
| brendyyn | plus ive spoken to crazy smart 7 year olds that could read novels and kick my ass at chess (my friends little brother) | Aug 15 12:53 |
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| schestowitz | brendyyn: that's different | Aug 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | I know kids as young as 4 or maybe 3 who can read | Aug 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | fluently even | Aug 15 13:05 |
| Digit | 7 year olds have the highest neural density | Aug 15 13:07 |
| Digit | frankly, i think they should be at the forefront of "policy" making. | Aug 15 13:07 |
| Digit | if even having "policy". or whatever a more anarchistic democractic deliberative participation looks like in place of having "policy". | Aug 15 13:08 |
| schestowitz | police of teaching kids about sex when they start school> | Aug 15 13:21 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 15 13:21 |
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| Digit | ? | Aug 15 13:26 |
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| Digit | society's decision making, i meant. it's just that in our impositional authoritarian systems that's often done via "policy". i'm sure 7 year olds could come up with better ways. ... i hope. though that could be the same misplaced hope as hoping an AI will be wise. inteligence, processing power, creativity and inventive capacity, are not the same as wisdom. | Aug 15 13:29 |
| schestowitz | I don't quite follow | Aug 15 13:30 |
| Digit | idk what 7 year olds would decide with regard to specifically sex education, but i had my first experiences before such education, ... and i'm not sure the education i got there helped. | Aug 15 13:31 |
| schestowitz | movies already have 'soft' elements of sex | Aug 15 13:32 |
| schestowitz | most kids will see a kiss or more by age 7 | Aug 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | whether on TV or IRL, even just people in the street | Aug 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | some people perhaps want it to start in kindergarten | Aug 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | like some certain dutch pedo party | Aug 15 13:33 |
| schestowitz | which got RMS to say stupid thing | Aug 15 13:34 |
| schestowitz | apparently some gnu contributor | Aug 15 13:34 |
| schestowitz | to some, this is a way of manufacturing consent for sexual 'maturity' at a young age | Aug 15 13:34 |
| schestowitz | based on my understanding of other such "introductions" at a young age, it's design to warp what we deem acceptable | Aug 15 13:34 |
| schestowitz | to some, it may be the idea that you can 'play' with kids | Aug 15 13:35 |
| schestowitz | or that kids aged 4 can say, "mom, I want to change my gender" | Aug 15 13:35 |
| schestowitz | whether that's immortal or not, leave it as an open question... | Aug 15 13:35 |
| schestowitz | brendyyn: you must view that post within its context | Aug 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz | which is a bunch of other posts about Gates and his total tolerance of what Epstein had done | Aug 15 13:36 |
| schestowitz | I am doing another post about it at this moment | Aug 15 13:36 |
| brendyyn | i was just talking about teaching the purely academic stuff, like showing diagrams and talking about how the body works. nothing to do with making kids behave a way that is inappropriate. | Aug 15 13:38 |
| schestowitz | that is nor sex education | Aug 15 13:41 |
| schestowitz | that's anatomy | Aug 15 13:41 |
| schestowitz | in sex education they teach about intercourse and erections and stuff | Aug 15 13:41 |
| schestowitz | which is, I think, what Melinda alluded to there | Aug 15 13:41 |
| CrystalMath | what about asexual children? | Aug 15 13:41 |
| CrystalMath | i'm so glad we only had anatomy and not sexual education, when i went to school | Aug 15 13:42 |
| CrystalMath | i would need a bucket | Aug 15 13:42 |
| schestowitz | 20 years ago I read about a Russia school that taught kids how to masturbate | Aug 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I think Russia's attitude towards underage sex and CP is generally disturbing | Aug 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | and in Islam you have child brides | Aug 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | with grooms like 4 times their age | Aug 15 13:43 |
| CrystalMath | yeah but child brides don't have sex until puberty | Aug 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | ir's "OK", mom and dad said he'll look after me... | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | not even Muhammed had sex with his wife *that* long ago, until she was 14 | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | 14 is the AoC where i live | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | so he respected something from 2020, way back in 500 | Aug 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | how old was mo at the time? | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | idk 39? | Aug 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | usually AoC is subjected to the partner's age | Aug 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | like 15 and 14... boys gonna be boys and all | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | not really? | Aug 15 13:44 |
| CrystalMath | here, once you're past 14 even 90 is available to you | Aug 15 13:45 |
| CrystalMath | you're completely free | Aug 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz | sounds like an Epstin\ian heaven | Aug 15 13:45 |
| CrystalMath | well no | Aug 15 13:45 |
| CrystalMath | prostitution is illegal | Aug 15 13:45 |
| CrystalMath | for all ages | Aug 15 13:45 |
| CrystalMath | but in italy, you have 14 *an* prostitution is legal | Aug 15 13:46 |
| CrystalMath | *and | Aug 15 13:46 |
| CrystalMath | so Epstein could have gone to Italy and been fine | Aug 15 13:46 |
| CrystalMath | but not here | Aug 15 13:46 |
| CrystalMath | also, Spain i think, but he'd have to go up to 15 | Aug 15 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | portugal as well | Aug 15 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | like all of europe is like this | Aug 15 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | russia has 16 | Aug 15 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | and the highest AoC in all of europe is in ireland - 17 | Aug 15 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | then you have a bunch of countries with 16 | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | a bunch of countries with 15 | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | and quite a few with 14 | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | none with less | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | 14-16 is in my opinion a normal place to put the AoC, and the specific year should be picked by the culture | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | 16 is very good | Aug 15 13:48 |
| CrystalMath | example: UK | Aug 15 13:49 |
| schestowitz | It usually varies based on partner's age | Aug 15 13:50 |
| schestowitz | as I said, varies | Aug 15 13:50 |
| schestowitz | in the US they even use the terms (depending on state) "Romeo and Juliet" | Aug 15 13:50 |
| schestowitz | and then you need to define what constitute a sexual act | Aug 15 13:51 |
| schestowitz | as kissing is not the same as some other stuff, obviously... | Aug 15 13:51 |
| schestowitz | I read about US prosecuting kids for sending naked pics over SMS or similar | Aug 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | based on the assumption that they produce and disseminate | Aug 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | even if just to another person of their age group | Aug 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | i.e. child to child | Aug 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | but if the two are doing something sexual, you will almost never see prosecution | Aug 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | as both are below AoC and it would be absurd to stain their life and record based on something they did as kids | Aug 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | which was likely harmless to both sides | Aug 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | unless it's one child raping another, which I doubt happens much | Aug 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | maybe because their sex drive is very low | Aug 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | [GOING Back on topic...] | Aug 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Re Melinda remark | Aug 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | it should be interpreted in light of other articles | Aug 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | on its own it's just a cryptic title | Aug 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | maybe a lot of conservatives find it most offensive | Aug 15 13:54 |
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| CrystalMath | schestowitz: hmm, we have that in europe; in hungary the AoC is 14 but 12 is allowed if the partner is younger than 16 | Aug 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | just posted http://techrights.org/2020/08/15/impersonal-but-also-personal/ | Aug 15 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Deeds and Misdeeds of Bill Gates Have International Impact | Techrights | Aug 15 14:03 | |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: that's to prevent criminalising young people | Aug 15 14:04 |
| schestowitz | usually where neither side feels like a victim | Aug 15 14:04 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: but 14 and 90 is still allowed | Aug 15 14:04 |
| schestowitz | both sexes? | Aug 15 14:04 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 15 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I mean, girls mature sexually faster | Aug 15 14:04 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, hungary doesn't take that into account i think? | Aug 15 14:04 |
| CrystalMath | i only read wikipedia, and not the law itself | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | so an old teacher can seduce a very young Macron | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | as young as 14 | Aug 15 14:05 |
| CrystalMath | err... no | Aug 15 14:05 |
| CrystalMath | not if there's a position of power | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | because teacher? | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | ah | Aug 15 14:05 |
| CrystalMath | there's an exception for that | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | ok | Aug 15 14:05 |
| schestowitz | so there are special cases, still | Aug 15 14:05 |
| CrystalMath | only at 18 you are considered to be equal to all, so nobody's in a position of power over you | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | at least here | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | but i mean, a truly willing 14yo could have sex with a 90yo that isn't their teacher or guardian | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | without any pressure | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | i know it's hard to imagine true love like that :P | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | and it can't possibly last :P | Aug 15 14:06 |
| CrystalMath | it's silly, but i like it when laws don't attack something just because it's statistically highly unlikely | Aug 15 14:07 |
| CrystalMath | i like laws based on theory, not practice | Aug 15 14:07 |
| scientes | If Civilization allows you to play Finland, they why can't you play Georgia? | Aug 15 14:14 |
| scientes | I mean, most European countries have more a claim to fame than Georgia, but Finland is about equal, also with a canonical history written in the local language | Aug 15 14:14 |
| scientes | Like the world map just ignores this place and while it includes the mountains, makes it a dessert | Aug 15 14:14 |
| scientes | probably because Finns have more money | Aug 15 14:15 |
| scientes | and buy more copies of Civilization games | Aug 15 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/14/the-execution-of-elephants-and-americans/ | Aug 15 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "but i mean, a truly willing 14yo"> 17 in Illinois with the same condition. 16 in Indiana, and 18 in Wisconsin. 18 if you cross a state line or you face federal charges, potentially. | Aug 15 19:20 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: yep america is 16-18 | Aug 15 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The federal government can only have an age of consent as it pertains to crossing a state line. | Aug 15 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's rarely enforced, because the burden is on them to prove that's the primary reason you crossed the state line. | Aug 15 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you can prove, like, you went to that state to go visit a theme park and on day 3 you met someone who was legal under that state's law, then that would mean the primary purpose was to go on vacation. | Aug 15 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If, however, they have a string of emails or something that shows your intent before you crossed the state line, was to meet that person, the law applies. | Aug 15 19:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "only at 18 you are considered to"> Parental rights continue in a limited sense if you're still in high school because you repeated a grade or something, and they can show that you depend on them for your financial support. | Aug 15 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: not here | Aug 15 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: high school is not mandatory | Aug 15 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they're next of kin because you're unmarried, and you end up in the hospital, they speak for you if you're incapacitated. | Aug 15 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, the federal government counts their income for a few more years for determining if you're eligible for college tuition grants. | Aug 15 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | here that goes both ways | Aug 15 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whether or not they'd actually help you. | Aug 15 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "DaemonFC: high school is not man"> Everything through high school is compulsory and the state can file charges against the parent and the child if they don't go. | Aug 15 19:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Although it does not have to be in public school. | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: not here | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | i know about america | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | but here it's different | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | high school not being mandatory is actually a huge part of the reason why 14 is the AoC | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | when one turns 14, they are no longer a child | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | officially | Aug 15 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | even if they're not fully free | Aug 15 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I ended up in Catholic school, public school, a Protestant school, homeschool, and GED. | Aug 15 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No matter where I was at, my grades were fine, but I'd get in trouble over minor infractions. | Aug 15 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "even if they're not fully free"> It's a firmware issue. | Aug 15 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | I think that today we have the lowest number of #covid19 deaths reported... since March 12th (11 days before lock-down). I hope this is true and also sustainable. | Aug 15 19:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "I think that today we have the l"> Well, what this virus has proven is that my mother was absolutely wrong. Couldn't have been more wrong, when she said "Oh I think the worst of it will be over in June and then you can just go ahead and move.". | Aug 15 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not only did the virus make a huge comeback because regions that Republicans never thought would get whacked got whacked harder than New York City, and that's uhhhhh, where the Republicans are, that's getting whacked right now in ne incredibly large never ending burst. | Aug 15 19:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Now the CDC is saying that they think you might be safe for all of three months after you recover, which is....not good. | Aug 15 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, so what they're really saying is that people who recovered in April and May might be out there getting it again. | Aug 15 19:54 |
| schestowitz | or mutation of it | Aug 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | we have 1000 new cases | Aug 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I think testing about a quarter million per day | Aug 15 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wonderful. So the "never goes away and just keeps hitting the same people over and over again" situation was rolled up as something that was worded as "Good news, everybody!" by Trump's apparatchiks at CDC, who have replaced the scientists after he hollowed it out. | Aug 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | esp. in strategic area worse hit | Aug 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | "1,012 new cases and 3 new deaths in the United Kingdom" | Aug 15 19:56 |
| schestowitz | https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | Aug 15 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coronavirus.data.gov.uk | Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK | Aug 15 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it kills about 1 in 500 people before it slows down a lot, if it burns out of control for a couple of months. So Florida not reporting their deaths properly aside, we can ascertain that about 42,000 people in Florida will be dead, sometime next month while the state's propaganda count will be much lower. | Aug 15 19:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's easy to extrapolate this based on what happened in New York and New Jersey, where the governments at least tried to give an honest count of their dead. | Aug 15 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it got so bad that they were starting to dig mass graves in Central Park, people in Florida must be noticing what's happening even if their state Republicans will never admit the truth. | Aug 15 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom doesn't like to hear anything that doesn't make her feel better about what a pig fuck she helped cause when she voted Trump. | Aug 15 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think I was meant to be German or something. I really do. | Aug 15 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember that German Finance Minister who walked in front of a train because he read a government report about what the virus would do? Thankfully, Germany has leadership that enacted a top down plan and it never got anywhere near this bad there. | Aug 15 20:04 |
| schestowitz | German handled it well | Aug 15 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump made the COVID-19 situation in America probably 90% as bad as the worst case by just completely abdicating all responsibility and leaving for the golf course, while Governors were left to either try to keep a lid on it, as Governor Pritzker in Illinois has done, or just left it alone while it killed everyone doing what Trump recommended, like Governors Kemp and DeSantis in Georgia and Florida. | Aug 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | so far | Aug 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | *Germany | Aug 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | The German PM does a fine job at leadership amid this crisis, too | Aug 15 20:05 |
| schestowitz | if US handled it like Germany did, maybe 20k USians would be dead now, not 170k | Aug 15 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm holed up in a hotel room and just watching in slow motion, while, you know, the death count total of two nuclear bombs that landed on Japan unfolds on the elderly in this country, because people like my mom voted for Trump because they hate immigrants and never thought there'd be a personal price to pay for him bungling something that matters very much to them. | Aug 15 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So she is in mortal danger from this mess and continues to live in a state of nearly complete denial. | Aug 15 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's insisting that Trump is in great mental health when he has a gaffe every time someone stick his demented stupid face in front of a camera. | Aug 15 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The people who would respond to his racist bullshit.... Like 250,000 of them aren't going to be here for the election to consider whether we should let vicious dogs loose on the blacks. So things are looking up from that perspective. | Aug 15 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem is that the shitter was completely full of these types and that's how Trump pulled the squeaker the last time. So hoping that there's enough assholes that die of this that we don't have to live through four more years of however Trump is planning to finish destroying our country is, morbid maybe, but it's what we have. | Aug 15 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The sneak preview in Arizona, halfway in, was that Joe Arpaio, the criminal Sheriff that Trump pardoned who ran a concentration camp, lost his bid to run for the US Senate. | Aug 15 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Just barely too. The racist old people don't have the edge they had before the Coronavirus started bowling them over. | Aug 15 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I really think that when the results were in, we're going to have an astronaut (on the Democratic ticket), Mark Kelly, in the US Senate from Arizona, and an open atheist. Not this Nazi filth that Trump wanted. | Aug 15 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the span of two cycles, no less. | Aug 15 20:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Kyrsten Sinema won the other seat. She's the atheist. They said she had no chance. Trump mocked her. She won. In Arizona. So it's clear that Joe Biden will probably do fine there. | Aug 15 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's not unacceptable to run statewide and admit that religion is a crock of shit in Arizona, that's big news as far as the US is concerned. | Aug 15 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine that there's only 1 atheist in Congress, but the rest will say whatever the wind is blowing, in either party. Most atheists are rich and have the benefit of a good education. Most of Congress is rich and with good education. I can't imagine there's really only 1 in there. | Aug 15 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Bill Gates believed in God, he probably wouldn't have blood of his type on hand wherever he travels and having them check every last bolt on the airplane too. | Aug 15 20:21 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 15 20:21 |
| schestowitz | he does believe in himself | Aug 15 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of these "top" people in the Evangelical Christian movement are just atheists who use it for money and power. Like Falwell Jr. who ran Liberty University like an autocratic dictator and accumulated wealth and control over other people and then exposed himself on Twitter. Maybe that scantily dressed woman is pregnant because he washed his winky in her kitchen sinky. | Aug 15 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There he is with his pants down and a shot of bourbon, with his arm around a floozy, and he posts it on his own Twitter and then says it was all a "joke". | Aug 15 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You have to be really dumb to do this. If it leaked, I'd at least understand that hey the guy isn't dumb enough to put it on his own Twitter. | Aug 15 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Bill Gates had another appearance in South Park. He came back and killed Steve Ballmer and put Eric Cartman in control of their XBOX division, and then personally beat the CEO of Sony to death. | Aug 15 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He had prison-style tattoos when he took off his shirt. The biggest one said MS-DOS. | Aug 15 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The producers of South Park portray him as an actual raging psychopath who murders people to get what he wants. | Aug 15 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I did appreciate that. | Aug 15 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm sure that he does pay PR companies to be internet trolls to chum "social" media and Nazi bulletin boards with ridiculous conspiracy theories about himself. | Aug 15 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then he can pay off the CNNs and NBCs to label everyone who criticizes him (like us) "internet trolls" because we're concerned about dodgy vaccines that were pushed through at least 10 times faster than it's ever been done before, which have been designed (they admit) to require you to pay for multiple doses, and (again, they admit) each year because it's a "multi-year opportunity" because there will be a Coronavirus | Aug 15 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | season. | Aug 15 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is exactly like Windows. They don't want a Windows XP vaccine where you buy a computer and use it for 10 or 15 years like that. They want a Windows 10 vaccine where you're constantly buying a new license. Only this time, you can drop dead if you don't. | Aug 15 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I can see why Bill Gates wants to invest in it. It's like Windows 10 only you die if you can't pay. | Aug 15 20:30 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The last thing they want is healthcare as a public right, where the government itself spins up the vaccine each year and goes "Fuck your profits, we don't want our citizens to die!", so they had to rig the election against Bernie Sanders. | Aug 15 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They very much want Trump. | Aug 15 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Will there be a vaccine? Yes. Will it be safe? Who knows, and it's not Bill Gates' problem because of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program which shields them and puts the government itself at risk, and only to the cheapest amount it can pay out, after you file a stack of forms, and maybe after some appeals, and, well you get it. Right? schestowitz It's not his problem. The risks have been socialized and the profit | Aug 15 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | have been privatized. So if the vaccine has problems, who cares? Not Bill Gates. | Aug 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Not a new issue | Aug 15 20:35 |
| schestowitz | the media props him up | Aug 15 20:35 |
| schestowitz | need to check who pays who for this marketing | Aug 15 20:35 |
| kingoffrance | well bill g. gets shot in the south park movie. on simpsons he "buys out" homer because he cant figure out what his web business is. "buy out" == sends goons to destroy equipment | Aug 15 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is anything but a free market with regulations. In a free market with civil tort, the vaccine companies would do everything they can to minimize risk to the recipient because their ass is grass and their company will be in bankruptcy if they put out a product that does as much harm as the disease. | Aug 15 20:36 |
| kingoffrance | homer IIRC didnt actually have an idea, it was spoofing dot com stuff, but bill didnt know for sure, so that was the safe choice | Aug 15 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "well bill g. gets shot in the so"> I liked that one the best. Homer makes a dot com company that doesn't do anything and gets a huge check from Microsoft, who sends people in to bash his computer up. | Aug 15 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's exactly how they are, to this day. | Aug 15 20:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That's what they'll do to TikTok too if Trump forces them to sell. | Aug 15 20:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | No lessons were learned from the dotcom bubble, so we have another technology bubble that's even worse. | Aug 15 20:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's not "everything that ends in dotcom gets bought up by morons". It's concentrated on several companies that either don't make a profit or don't make enough of one to justify the stock price multiples of P/E. | Aug 15 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Microsoft, Apple, and Facebook are big ones. | Aug 15 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google, to a lesser extent. | Aug 15 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the real crap is Netflix, Uber, and Tesla. | Aug 15 20:39 |
| kingoffrance | thats an old one https://www.theonion.com/bill-gates-grants-self-18-dexterity-20-charisma-1819564339 | Aug 15 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Bill Gates Grants Self 18 Dexterity, 20 Charisma | Aug 15 20:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you actually go by P/E and backtest, Microsoft and Apple have been seriously overvalued for most of the last decade. | Aug 15 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not to say that if you bought and held on and sold at the right time, you wouldn't be incredibly wealthy. There were people who sold at the right time on the dotcom bubble. | Aug 15 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a lot more who didn't and got left holding the bag. | Aug 15 20:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy is an awful option and it's a last resort really. | Aug 15 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're allowed to every 8 years, but the judge or the trustee might try using prior ones as evidence of a pattern. | Aug 15 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like you wait 8 years to the day and screw all your creditors over 3-4 times. | Aug 15 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | kingoffrance: buys himself | Aug 15 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nevertheless, there's a lot of people that were on the phone with the trustee where they were back after exactly 8 years, and most of it was medical bills. | Aug 15 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How do you argue that someone fraudulently needed surgery? I mean, jesus.... | Aug 15 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I was going to die without the appendectomy!" | Aug 15 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trustee: "Then you should have died, and decreased the surplus population!" | Aug 15 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I love this country. | Aug 15 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think these people who are holding out might just want to reconsider that. Probably the latest that it might be safe to wait is until the election. | Aug 15 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lame duck session is when Congress tends to unleash its dirtiest tricks as a going away present. | Aug 15 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | While everyone else is out buying shit they don't need in a stupid ritual after ditching their family on Thanksgiving, Congress is going to work figuring out how to screw them. | Aug 15 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My cousins do that Black Friday thing every year. | Aug 15 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both of them have been sued half a dozen times or more in the past 2 years and have outstanding judgments coming out of their paychecks. It got so bad that one of them was evicted from their apartment. | Aug 15 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Back in March. | Aug 15 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Consumerism is a disease. It's a mental disease. | Aug 15 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the virus has done anything good it's that it crashed the systems and left Trump with his dick hanging out right before the election, killed hundreds of thousands of his voters, and drove a stake through the rotten beating heart of the Christmas shopping season. | Aug 15 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There is also pretty much no appetite for a war in the middle of this mess because if Congress spends trillions on anything, it will be our badly damaged economy. | Aug 15 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, Trump could try to invade Venezuela or something but there's problems with that. He's limited to how many days the deployment can be without Congress authorizing something, and if he raids the overseas contingency fund to prop up a war nobody wants after he said he could raid any account to send stimulus checks and unemployment benefits to people, they're really going to be pissed. | Aug 15 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't think the USPS slowdown is going to have a huge effect on states that really want mail in elections to work. If anything, the shenanigans are going to choke off elderly people from voting absentee in red states which already made it as easy as possible to get in your vote too late to qualify. | Aug 15 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They reduced capacity in Indianapolis and Fort Wayne, and that's obviously because they're trying to get the Democrats out of office there, but it's going to backfire on them badly. | Aug 15 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it could actually backfire so badly that the Democrats will expand their control over both counties. | Aug 15 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If there is truth to the notion that younger people aren't terrified of the virus, but old people are, then you're disenfranchising people who are so old that if they come out of their house to try and vote, they risk a serious chance of death. | Aug 15 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he's taking the right to vote from, largely, his base. | Aug 15 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's risking mom's life is she wants to vote, not mine. | Aug 15 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm 36. I hate Trump. I'll go stand in line for 2 weeks in a sideways hail storm if I have to. | Aug 15 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | She's 63 years old and might not arrive at the same calculation when standing in line at a voting center means anyone who goes in there could infect everyone with the virus. | Aug 15 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, that assumes facts not in evidence. She hasn't ever done a damned thing that tells me she can arrive at a basic risk/benefit assessment. The polls bear out the fact that Republicans are really bad at assessing risk from the virus. | Aug 15 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "kingoffrance: buys himself"> You know, that's bordering on the Sovereign Citizen theory. | Aug 15 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John said that the TSA warns them about "Sovereign Citizens". | Aug 15 21:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I was explaining the "redemption theory" and he said, "Yeah, they told us about that.". | Aug 15 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government doesn't tend to respond well to Sovereign Citizen movements. | Aug 15 21:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They burned down the Branch Davidian compound in Texas and slaughtered dozens of children to show what happens when you start making this argument. | Aug 15 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump plays into it more than previous presidents have because they and QAnon and other domestic terrorist movements are part of his base. | Aug 15 21:05 |
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| kingoffrance | i didnt know what schestowitz meant, sorry :/ gates buys out himself? | Aug 15 21:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why all these sites say don't file bankruptcy, it'll destroy your credit. | Aug 15 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By the time you're where bankruptcy is the only option left, your credit is destroyed. | Aug 15 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They shot the hostage already and now they're acting like there's some additional penalty for dealing with them through bankruptcy. | Aug 15 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/11/girlsdoporn-owner-hit-with-child-porn-charges/ | Aug 15 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | GirlsDoPorn owner charged with child porn for scene with 16-year-old | Ars Technica | Aug 15 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where the hell is this guy, anyway? | Aug 15 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He fled the United States (good move), but nobody figured out to where. Is he back in New Zealand? | Aug 15 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They never turned over Kim Dotcom, but I don't think they would go to bad for a guy who raped a 16 year old on camera and put it on the internet. | Aug 15 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *to bat | Aug 15 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then again, France refuses to turn over Roman Polanski, so stranger things have happened. | Aug 15 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US is still trying to get him back to face sentencing in California after more than 40 years. | Aug 15 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The trial judge who was going to throw out the plea deal is dead, I think, and there's serious constitutional flaws in the legal proceedings that would probably scuttle the case, but he's so old now that why would he risk that just to come back to the US? I wouldn't. | Aug 15 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Especially not with what's happening now. | Aug 15 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Looks like they're trying to get a charge that applies to the USA/NZ extradition treaty from 1970." | Aug 15 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the treaty dates back to 1970, it's not exactly clear how it would have known about the DMCA or the internet, so there's how Kim Dotcom probably lucked out. | Aug 15 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless the treaty is ever updated to reflect this, then he's probably safe if he stays in NZ. | Aug 15 22:23 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The problem with the DMCA isn't just that it's a bad law, it's that every time the copyright cartel gets something nasty, they want something nastier a few years later. | Aug 15 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just emboldens them to keep going. "See how easy it was to get that? Let's go for more!". | Aug 15 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Obama Administration set us back a lot on copyright law. | Aug 15 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems like the Republicans are less likely to go for it because it helps Hollywood, which busts out 90% of the election money from there for the Democrats. | Aug 15 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Between both terms of Bush, the copyright situation kind of stayed where it was right after Clinton signed the DMCA. | Aug 15 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of other things got real bad. Recessions, wars, bankruptcy "reform" that saddled people with crippling debt and set the stage for a full recovery from 2008 or.....god help us now....to be impossible. | Aug 15 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If bankruptcy law was pre-BAPCPA, more people would have filed between 2009-2013 in that wave. Probably a million more filings, if not more than that. | Aug 15 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A million more households become debt free, they can go back to buying stuff. | Aug 15 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead, they got the 2008 mess and a "payment plan". | Aug 15 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The credit card reform bill from the Democrats was a joke. | Aug 15 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trying to deal with the big banks is like shooting at the T-1000. Every time you get a hit, it just morphs and repairs the damage and goes right on doing whatever it wants. | Aug 15 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You stop them from doing one thing, they get you someplace else. | Aug 15 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they don't attack you in those particular places again. They always find some other shoddy practices and then the next recession is something we've never seen before. | Aug 15 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sarbanes-Oxley obviously hasn't stopped Microsoft from fudging their SEC reports. | Aug 15 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's caused them to avoid making definitive statements. | Aug 15 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It reads like the Federal Reserve reports where you go "What does that even mean?". | Aug 15 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's intended to chum the waters, confuse, and move money around, without actually running afoul of SOX. | Aug 15 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So "Connected Cloud" has become part of Microsoft's version of Fedspeak. | Aug 15 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that's caught on at all of GAFAM. | Aug 15 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You just label everything as your Cloud revenue and then you don't have to talk about any particular product and how that product is faring. | Aug 15 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Skype is losing money buy Office is doing fine, you lump both under Cloud and then nobody can see what's happening. | Aug 15 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that a cash-only $30 billion acquisition of TikTok is not only bullshit, but major league bullshit. | Aug 15 22:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft claims to have roughly $130 billion in liquid assets. That is cash or things that could be converted to cash within a few months. | Aug 15 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it would be ridiculous to spend almost 25% of your liquidity to acquire such a worthless hyped up thing. | Aug 15 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Apple is doing more financial engineering. | Aug 15 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Did you see they're going to issue a bunch of bonds to the Federal Reserve soon and use it to buy back shares? | Aug 15 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Captive Investor. Just sell to the Central Bank why not? | Aug 15 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's buying bonds because they'll go bad and stick the US central bank with worthless shares while Apple pumps up the share price with something that destroys value for people who are not Tim Cook. | Aug 15 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *worthless bonds, I meant | Aug 15 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if Apple defaults on those bonds, it's not Tim Cook's problem. He'll cash out his shares while they're full of air and then leave Apple to crash. | Aug 15 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who in the actual fuck is buying a $1,500 phone in this economy? | Aug 15 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I came across a discussion between landlords on Reddit. | Aug 15 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were discussing ways to get tenants out that circumvent the eviction moratoriums in Illinois. | Aug 15 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of them suggested how to frame the tenant for "vandalizing" the property and then taking pictures of it and telling the court they needed an emergency eviction. | Aug 15 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I figured some would, but I didn't think that they would actually discuss it openly like that. | Aug 15 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The place we were renting in Fox Lake had a really nasty clause for if you continued occupying it with an expired lease. | Aug 15 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your rent would continue at double the amount specified. | Aug 15 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Landlords are nasty and their terms were getting more and more egregious to go along with higher rent. | Aug 15 22:48 |
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| kingoffrance | yeah when i caught a glimpse of recent nba games, my thought was "who is buying stuff with all these car ads?" | Aug 15 22:56 |
| kingoffrance | new car...thats on how many peoples minds right now? | Aug 15 22:56 |
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