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techrights-newsEven #MicrosoftTim seems to grasp that people should be fired or sued for deploying #Microsoft #Windows , more so when #ransom strike https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/googles_virustotal_malware see http://techrights.org/2020/05/31/windows-manslaughter/Oct 15 00:02
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/googles_virustotal_malwareOct 15 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 95% of ransomware malware targets Windows • The RegisterOct 15 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Ransomware Must Not be Unspeakable When People Die in Large Numbers Due to That (and Windows Has Intentional Back Doors) | TechrightsOct 15 00:02
techrights-news#france #epo #unifiedpatentcourt #teamupc #iloat http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-french-connection/Oct 15 00:03
techrights-newsA Deep Dive Into The Sound Of An Apple II | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/a-deep-dive-into-the-sound-of-an-apple-ii/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Deep Dive Into The Sound Of An Apple II | HackadayOct 15 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/10/15/Oct 15 00:06
techrights-newsThe #JackboxPartyPack 8 is out now with improved Linux support | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-jackbox-party-pack-8-is-out-now-with-improved-linux-support ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesOct 15 00:06
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-jackbox-party-pack-8-is-out-now-with-improved-linux-supportOct 15 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Jackbox Party Pack 8 is out now with improved Linux support | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 00:06
techrights-newsWeirdest #FileManager You’ve Never Heard Of - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=awBe11Em4p8 ䷉ #video #gnu #linuxOct 15 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Weirdest File Manager You've Never Heard Of - InvidiousOct 15 00:07
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techrights-news#Missouri needs to get PWN3D very soon https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/14/far-right-missouri-governor-threatens-criminal-charges-against-reporter-for-telling-the-state-about-a-security-vulnerability/Oct 15 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Far-right Missouri Governor threatens criminal charges against reporter for telling the state about a security vulnerability. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 00:08
techrights-newsDid the #EPO ‘s overseeing body properly tackle #BenoîtBattistelli ‘s illegal acts, authorised by that very same overseeing body? Don’t hold your breath as #AntónioCampinos continues to crack down on staff (maybe #ILOAT will rule on it in 2030) http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-maladministration/Oct 15 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Another Maladministration Meeting Comes to an End | TechrightsOct 15 00:09
techrights-newsThe #EPO ‘s presidency (led by Frenchmen for nearly 15 years out of the past 18 years; #BenoîtBattistelli and #AntónioCampinos are both French despite their somewhat misleading surnames) is extremely unlikely to even be mildly scrutinised by the French delegates because of a web of #nepotism and #protectionism http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-french-connection/Oct 15 00:10
techrights-news#microsoftTim is now #greenwashing #microsoft with misleading headline. Link omitted, but #linuxfoundation does the same: http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/Oct 15 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ‘Linux’ Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobody’s Business | TechrightsOct 15 00:11
techrights-newsLots and lots of #microsoft #googlebombing of the word "Linux" this past week. What's ours is ours and what's yours is ours, too...Oct 15 00:13
techrights-newsAlmost 30,000 page requests/day in the past two days over gemini:// in #techrights (just Gemini). If that was to persist, it's like a million pages per month or getting there. #geminiSpace growing fast!Oct 15 00:15
techrights-newsThe Compute Module Comes Of Age: Say Hello To The Real Cutting Edge Of #RaspberryPi | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/the-compute-module-comes-of-age-say-hello-to-the-real-cutting-edge-of-raspberry-pi/ ䷉ #hackaday #gnu #linuxOct 15 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Compute Module Comes Of Age: Say Hello To The Real Cutting Edge Of Raspberry Pi | HackadayOct 15 00:18
MinceR15 003515 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: why?Oct 15 00:18
MinceRto improve one's chances of finding something that others may want to suppressOct 15 00:18
MinceRthe more engines you use the more difficult it becomes to hide certain sitesOct 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRI don't know how searx worksOct 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRbut then againOct 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRI try to limit my use of web searchOct 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRif I can do local searches.Oct 15 00:19
schestowitz-TRe.g. techrights and wikipediaOct 15 00:19
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schestowitz-TRwww is a censorship blackbox or denyboxOct 15 00:19
techrights-news#Ubuntu 21.10 Review - A risk-free transition release (+flavors) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SXfpbsCXUmE ䷉ #video #gnu #linuxOct 15 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 21.10 Review - A risk-free transition release (+flavors) - InvidiousOct 15 00:21
techrights-newsThe New #Radeon RX 6600: WILL IT LINUX? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kBHImsEFPaw ䷉ #video #gnu #linuxOct 15 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The New Radeon RX 6600: WILL IT LINUX? - InvidiousOct 15 00:22
techrights-newsSome more late coverage of latest #Ubuntu release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31375 #gnu #linuxOct 15 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 “Impish Indri” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesOct 15 00:23
techrights-newsThis is not even REMOTELY competitive with ARM SBCs https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/13/beelink-u59-celeron-n5095-jasper-lake-mini-pc-to-ship-with-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd/ "The mini PC ships with Windows 10 Pro and supports Ubuntu Linux." So it's coming with MALWARE as OBLIGATORY. Why did #cnx cover this???Oct 15 00:26
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/13/beelink-u59-celeron-n5095-jasper-lake-mini-pc-to-ship-with-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd/Oct 15 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink U59 Celeron N5095 Jasper Lake mini PC ships with up to 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD - CNX SoftwareOct 15 00:26
techrights-newsThey make is sound like #Ubuntu is supported but any other #GNU / #Linux distro is not https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/Oct 15 00:28
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/Oct 15 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/ )Oct 15 00:28
techrights-news"On the 4th and the 5th of October 2021, the Web & Design team ran a remote Hackathon. The theme of it was to build tools that would make our life easier at Canonical." https://ubuntu.com//blog/top-6-projects-from-our-hackathonOct 15 00:31
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/top-6-projects-from-our-hackathonOct 15 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 6 projects from our Hackathon | UbuntuOct 15 00:31
techrights-newsMir 2.5, incorporating new features to improve the development of embedded graphic applications | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/mir-2-5-enhancing-digital-signage-and-smart-screen-development ䷉ #ubuntu | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 00:32
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/mir-2-5-enhancing-digital-signage-and-smart-screen-developmentOct 15 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mir 2.5, incorporating new features to improve the development of embedded graphic applications | UbuntuOct 15 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 15 00:32
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techrights-newsMS keynote at ClownNativeCon https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-kubecon-na2021 see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/Oct 15 00:41
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-kubecon-na2021Oct 15 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical Presence at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon NA: Keynote by Founder/CEO Mark Shuttleworth, Announcement of Ubuntu 21.10 Beta | UbuntuOct 15 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | TechrightsOct 15 00:41
techrights-news#gnu #linux as 'go-to' platform for everything. https://ubuntu.com//blog/driving-innovation-in-autonomous-mobile-robots-university-of-hawaii-hits-indy-500 they could choose better distros, but...Oct 15 00:42
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/driving-innovation-in-autonomous-mobile-robots-university-of-hawaii-hits-indy-500Oct 15 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Driving innovation in autonomous mobile robots – University of Hawaii hits Indy 500 | UbuntuOct 15 00:42
techrights-news"ICOP’s “EBOX-IMX8MM” embedded computer runs #Android 9 or #Linux on an i.MX8M Mini with up to 4GB LPDDR4 and 64GB eMMC plus 2x GbE, 3x USB, 4x COM, WiFi/BT, and a 12-36V input." https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/Oct 15 00:44
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/Oct 15 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/ )Oct 15 00:44
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techrights-newsConnect your space heater to the Arduino Clown and control it via #pentagon #listeningDevices | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/13/connect-your-space-heater-to-the-arduino-cloud-and-control-it-via-alexa/ ䷉ #Arduino #HardwareOct 15 00:48
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/13/connect-your-space-heater-to-the-arduino-cloud-and-control-it-via-alexa/Oct 15 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Connect your space heater to the Arduino Cloud and control it via Alexa | Arduino BlogOct 15 00:48
techrights-newsRespin of #openSUSE Leap Images are Coming • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156797 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #SUSEOct 15 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Respin of openSUSE Leap Images are Coming | Tux MachinesOct 15 00:50
techrights-newsImplementing form filling and accessibility in the #Firefox #PDF viewer https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/10/14/implementing-form-filling-and-accessibility-in-the-firefox-pdf-viewer/ #mozilla #securityOct 15 00:51
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/10/14/implementing-form-filling-and-accessibility-in-the-firefox-pdf-viewer/Oct 15 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Implementing form filling and accessibility in the Firefox PDF viewer – Attack & DefenseOct 15 00:51
techrights-news#microsoft has one last resort (other than getting bailouts via #pentagon budget): Register as a religion and chase down Microsoft critics for "offence" and #blasphemyOct 15 00:55
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techrights-news#mozilla : WE ARE GOOD AT WEB THINGS! Also Mozilla: we've outsourced our Web site to #clownflare (no, we don't know how to set up a server or CDN)Oct 15 01:00
techrights-news#Monopolies bad. https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/amazon_india_antitrust/Oct 15 01:01
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/amazon_india_antitrust/Oct 15 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon accused of copying merchant products in India • The RegisterOct 15 01:01
techrights-news#microsoft has bribed for fake reviews for decades https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/fake_reviews_ftc/ examples: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingOct 15 01:03
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/fake_reviews_ftc/Oct 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FTC warns that fake reviews will be punished • The RegisterOct 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - TechrightsOct 15 01:03
techrights-news#theregister also #outsourced itself to the US. Domain says co.uk but the site is served by #Surveillance Giant #clownflareOct 15 01:03
techrights-news#Integrity and #Security Issues • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Integrity and Security Issues | Tux MachinesOct 15 01:04
techrights-news#xorgserver 21.0.99.902 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156799 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | xorg-server 21.0.99.902 | Tux MachinesOct 15 01:04
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techrights-news#linuxfoundation : pay us money so that we can buy media coverage to promote your brand. We'll call this "Linux" "success", but we're in effect a PR company for #monopoliesOct 15 01:07
techrights-newsMissing options: none or landline. https://www.makeuseof.com/best-phones-for-privacy/Oct 15 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 4 Most Secure Phones for PrivacyOct 15 01:08
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techrights-newsThis make it sound like a #Python issue, but it is a #ProprietarySoftware issue completely irrelevant tot he #programming language https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-python-based-ransomware-encrypts-vms-quickly/Oct 15 01:11
-altlink_1b0/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: esecurityplanet.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-python-based-ransomware-encrypts-vms-quickly/Oct 15 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Python-based Ransomware Encrypts Virtual Machines Quickly | eSecurityPlanetOct 15 01:11
techrights-news#KuberLogic needs to #deletegithub to be taken more seriously https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/10/13/kuberlogic-paas/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubOct 15 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | KuberLogic open-source platform turns infrastructure into a managed PaaS - Help Net SecurityOct 15 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsOct 15 01:13
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▆▄▃▆▇▄▅▃▂▅▃▄▆▅▆▅▅▆▂▃▂▆▅▃▄▂▄▄▅▃▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.18 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁█▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▅▃▄▂▃▃▄▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 22.06▕ swarm size (avg): 260.61  ⟲Oct 15 01:19
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techrights-news9 ways to use open source every day | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/10/open-source-tools ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9 ways to use open source every day | Opensource.comOct 15 01:28
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156800 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 15 01:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/vivaldi-adblock-is-mostly-adblock-plus-and-ublock-origin/Oct 15 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Vivaldi Adblock is mostly Adblock Plus and ublock-origin. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 01:55
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DaemonFCI was wondering why it understood ublock-origin extensions to ABP format lists.Oct 15 02:06
DaemonFCAs well as Hosts files.Oct 15 02:06
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/microsofts-first-windows-11-update-addresses-amd-cpu-scheduling-problems-ends-up-making-them-worse/Oct 15 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft’s first Windows “11” update addresses AMD CPU scheduling problems. Ends up making them worse. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 02:17
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▅▆▅▄▆▃▂▃▆▆▁▅▅▄▁▂▆▅▄▅▅▁▅▇▅▆▅▄▅▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.53 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂█▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▅▁▂▇▁▂▁▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 6.88▕ swarm size (avg): 260.59  ⟲Oct 15 02:18
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betsyLet the record show that I'm saying fuck this placeOct 15 02:30
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I think you have an anonymous fan again.Oct 15 02:34
betsyNat and Miguel are fucked up for their own reasons, but this place is trashOct 15 02:34
techrights-news▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techpol + social irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-141021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-141021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-141021.txtOct 15 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 14, 2021Oct 15 02:37
betsyUsing sexual assault when it benefits you and defending Stallman and Torvalds  when they are clearly misogynists is  biased and dishonestOct 15 02:37
techrights-news▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techrights irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-141021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-141021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-141021.txtOct 15 02:38
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techrights-news▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ boycottnovell irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-141021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-141021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-141021.txtOct 15 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 14, 2021Oct 15 02:39
techrights-news▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techbytes irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-141021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-141021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-141021.txtOct 15 02:40
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AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/enthusiasts_dash_for_riscv_computer/Oct 15 04:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | A limited run runs out too soon • The RegisterOct 15 04:17
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #MailingListArchives #BSD ☞ OpenBSD 7.0 released, Oct 14 https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&amp;m=163422237101753&amp;w=2Oct 15 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marc.info | 'OpenBSD 7.0 released, Oct 14' - MARCOct 15 06:30
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextOct 15 06:32
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #LinuxLinks ☞ 8 Best Free and Open Source Calendar Software https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-calendar-software/Oct 15 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8 Best Free and Open Source Calendar Software - LinuxLinksOct 15 06:38
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RTL #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Nations vow to combat ransomware at US-led summit https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1802118.htmlOct 15 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Cyber-security: Nations vow to combat ransomware at US-led summitOct 15 06:40
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ComputerWorld #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Apple warns: Sideloading apps threatens an iCrime wave https://www.computerworld.com/article/3636244/apple-warns-sideloading-apps-threatens-an-icrime-wave.htmlOct 15 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple warns: Sideloading apps threatens an iCrime wave | ComputerworldOct 15 06:41
techrights-news● NEWS ● #BBC #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Amazon Alexa: Woman used smart speaker to threaten ex's new partner https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-58829224Oct 15 06:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Alexa: Woman used smart speaker to threaten ex's new partner - BBC NewsOct 15 06:44
techrights-news● NEWS ● #MontrealGazette #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Mafia bosses worry for future as 'soft' millennial mobsters prefer texting to pistol-whipping https://montrealgazette.com/news/world/mafia-bosses-worry-for-future-as-soft-millennial-mobsters-prefer-texting-to-pistol-whippingOct 15 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-montrealgazette.com | Mafia bosses worry for future as 'soft' millennial mobsters prefer texting to pistol-whipping | Montreal GazetteOct 15 06:44
techrights-newscomOct 15 06:45
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ITWire #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Tech industry bodies urge government to revise emergency powers bill https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/tech-industry-bodies-urge-government-to-revise-emergency-powers-bill.htmlOct 15 06:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Tech industry bodies urge government to revise emergency powers billOct 15 06:45
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Joinup ☞ The French public administration is opening up public data, algorithms and source codes. https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-open-data-and-public-algorithms-franceOct 15 06:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Open source, open data and public algorithms in France | JoinupOct 15 06:51
techrights-news#china #censorship by #microsoft ... now as a "product" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/576821-microsoft-shutting-down-linkedin-in-china-to-offer-new-appOct 15 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft shutting down LinkedIn in China, to offer new app | TheHillOct 15 06:51
psydruidbetsy was hereOct 15 06:52
psydruidhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2021/09/11/the-inconvenient-truth-about-windows-11-malware/Oct 15 06:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Inconvenient Truth About Windows 11Oct 15 06:52
psydruidsend in the bribe moneyOct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: ?Oct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TRwhat conext?Oct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TR'11'?Oct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TRWinder is a Microsoft shillOct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TRfor about a decader alreadyOct 15 06:53
schestowitz-TRwithout even clicking I know he's be shilling itOct 15 06:54
schestowitz-TR*he'dOct 15 06:54
psydruidschestowitz-TR, it was linked from a comment in an article you posted from the register about Google finding 95% of malware on WindowsOct 15 06:55
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: oh, I see what you mean nowOct 15 06:55
schestowitz-TRI scrolled up a bitOct 15 06:56
schestowitz-TRif people are attacked for saying Torvalds  is not sexist, that means facts are out the windowsOct 15 06:56
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: someone from Microsoft (former) told me about the Google ransom articleOct 15 06:57
schestowitz-TRso I linked to itOct 15 06:57
schestowitz-TRlater I saw it in my feeds regardlessOct 15 06:57
psydruidthe main thing I got from this is that Vista 11 is already dealing with malware, so maybe hence the media offensive to make it look as if people may want itOct 15 06:57
psydruidbut that doesn't seem to be the caseOct 15 06:58
psydruidlots of people are outright rejecting itOct 15 06:58
psydruidand not just threatening but actually moving to GNU/LinuxOct 15 06:58
psydruidshaming people for not having new enough hardware isn't going to workOct 15 06:59
psydruidalso TPM is just another façade, it's not going to helpOct 15 06:59
psydruidand when even Vista shills say so, the end is comingOct 15 07:00
schestowitz-TRTPM is not newsOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRVista is not newOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRand this this PR hardly gained them anythingOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRlike I said the other dayOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRbased on figures from the Web at leastOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRthey blew tons of moneyOct 15 07:01
schestowitz-TRthey cannot do this every weekOct 15 07:02
psydruidI already see the PR dying downOct 15 07:02
schestowitz-TRyeahOct 15 07:02
schestowitz-TRthey then used WSLOct 15 07:02
schestowitz-TRWSL.. something 11Oct 15 07:02
schestowitz-TRthen Windows Store... something WSLOct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TRnow there are a few smaller googlebombing wavesOct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TRthey pay for itOct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TRmaybe helped distract from Ubuntu 21.10Oct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TROpenBSD 7.0Oct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TRDevuan 4.0Oct 15 07:03
schestowitz-TRetc.Oct 15 07:03
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheHill #Censorship ☞ House Democrats announce bill to rein in tech algorithms https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/576729-house-democrats-announce-bill-to-rein-in-tech-algorithmsOct 15 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House Democrats announce bill to rein in tech algorithms | TheHillOct 15 07:04
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Censorship ☞ Freedom of speech should not be restricted lightly https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/freedom-speech-should-not-be-restricted-lightlyOct 15 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Freedom of speech should not be restricted lightly | Times Higher Education (THE)Oct 15 07:04
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NewYorkTimes #Censorship ☞ Georgia’s University System Takes On Tenure https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/us/georgia-university-system-tenure.htmlOct 15 07:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Georgia’s University System Takes On Tenure - The New York TimesOct 15 07:04
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NPR #Censorship ☞ Todd Haynes' new film takes us deep into The Velvet Underground https://text.npr.org/1045716558Oct 15 07:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Todd Haynes' new film takes us deep into The Velvet UndergroundOct 15 07:04
activelowgnu/linux worked hard to accomodate those who expect vista style softwareOct 15 07:08
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Hollywood and Netflix Signal "Piracy as a Service" (PaaS) as New Threat Vector https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-netflix-signal-piracy-as-a-service-paas-as-new-threat-vector/Oct 15 07:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hollywood and Netflix Signal "Piracy as a Service" (PaaS) as New Threat Vector * TorrentFreakOct 15 07:09
schestowitz-TRactivelow: there was "Linux Vista"Oct 15 07:09
schestowitz-TRIIRCOct 15 07:09
schestowitz-TRBut I suppose you collectively refer to all post-XP releasesOct 15 07:09
activelowmy idea is slighlty different, because i think vista style consumerist are unavoidable, and i think it would have been better to keep them out of gnu/linuxOct 15 07:09
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Hollywood and Publisher Injunctions Lead to New UK ISP Piracy Blocks https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-publisher-injunctions-lead-to-new-uk-isp-piracy-blocks-211014/Oct 15 07:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hollywood and Publisher Injunctions Lead to New UK ISP Piracy Blocks * TorrentFreakOct 15 07:09
activelowschestowitz-TR: well, i am referring to all WindowsNT (openvms) type systemsOct 15 07:10
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Should we teach AI and ML differently to other areas of computer science? A challenge https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/research-seminar-data-centric-ai-ml-teaching-in-school/Oct 15 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Should we teach AI and ML differently to other areas of computer science? A challenge - Raspberry PiOct 15 07:11
schestowitz-TRactivelow: ah, OKOct 15 07:11
activelowGNU/linux tries to accomodate those who felt comfortable with WinNT, with a result i am not happy withOct 15 07:11
schestowitz-TRnot sure about itOct 15 07:11
schestowitz-TRmany distros try to copy OS X, which in turn copies othersOct 15 07:12
schestowitz-TRand Windows copies KDE a lotOct 15 07:12
activelowbecause, for the reasons i reject WinNT and micorosft, same criteria are valid for any other systemOct 15 07:12
schestowitz-TRalso, iOS and then Android 'copied' Palm OSOct 15 07:12
activelowand it is both: particular business habits of microsoft, and particular design principles of operating systems to accomodate consumersOct 15 07:12
techrights-newsiophk: The press is helping Apple rename installation to "sideloading", in an effort to change public expectations about control of the devicesOct 15 07:13
schestowitzx https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/how_ntfs_finally_made_it/Oct 15 07:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | How Windows NTFS finally made it into Linux • The RegisterOct 15 07:13
schestowitz# useless spam about a useless, outdated file systemOct 15 07:13
psydruidhow NTFS finally made it ... from the cradle to the grave?Oct 15 07:14
techrights-news#microsofr #censorship for/in #china https://www.ktbs.com/news/business/microsoft-shutting-down-linkedin-app-in-china-amid-scrutiny/article_ecc36684-eb68-542f-abf5-66c292b09279.htmlOct 15 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft shutting down LinkedIn app in China amid scrutiny | Business | ktbs.comOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: wa<itOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRyou missed the best partOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRcheck authorOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRit's our old friend SJVNOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRhe used to be OKOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRbut everyone I speak to hates him nowOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRhe used to help us a lotOct 15 07:15
psydruid" Love it or hate it, Linux users in a Windows world must deal with Microsoft's New Technology File System (NTFS)." <- nope, set up a Samba server and you never have to deal with NTFS againOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRnow.... I can't say much positive about himOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRyou mentioned BetsyOct 15 07:15
schestowitz-TRwho was convinced by the likes of SJVN that RMS supports EpsteinOct 15 07:16
schestowitz-TRand Torvalds of some sexual monsterOct 15 07:16
schestowitz-TRand if you don't agree, they lose itOct 15 07:16
schestowitz-TRSJVN is part of thatOct 15 07:16
schestowitz-TRbecause he defamed RMSOct 15 07:16
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/Oct 15 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | TechrightsOct 15 07:16
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: yes, I saw that articleOct 15 07:17
schestowitz-TRI even told rianneOct 15 07:17
schestowitz-TRand I'd rather not quote what rianne_ said about himOct 15 07:17
schestowitz-TRshe's a lot less forgiving them I amOct 15 07:17
schestowitz-TRSJVM became a lot like SPAMnilOct 15 07:17
schestowitz-TR*SJVNOct 15 07:17
techrights-news#theverge is lying to its readers, marketing #nsa and #facebook #surveillance as #privacy and "end-to-end"... I omit the linkOct 15 07:19
schestowitzx https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22726803/facebook-whatsapp-end-to-end-encrypted-backupsOct 15 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook starts rolling out end-to-end encrypted backups to WhatsApp - The VergeOct 15 07:19
schestowitz# lies: this is /not/ end-to-end in any way at allOct 15 07:19
schestowitzlink for IRC onlyOct 15 07:19
techrights-newsI can't believe that some people still use and sometimes pay for things from #microsoft https://www.pcworld.com/article/544601/microsoft-says-outlook-coms-failed-calendar-subscriptions-are-a-bug.htmlOct 15 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft fixing Outlook.com's calendar subscription issues | PCWorldOct 15 07:21
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▃▄▃▃▂▄▅▅▃▄▅▅▄▆▅▃▂▃▂▃▄▄▄▅▂▃▅▃▅▄▅▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 18.21 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▇▁▄▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 13.85▕ swarm size (avg): 260.50  ⟲Oct 15 07:21
activelowntfs, same strategy, creating a dependency and vendor-specific extension, some incompatibility, and then *enforce* it.Oct 15 07:21
activelowcifs/smb, kerberos/ldap... what was it, active directory, it hurtsOct 15 07:21
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techrights-news"I've been doing more with #coreboot on #Chromebook hardware. Liberated an Acer C740 with the mrchromebox.tech firmware. Now that I know how to do it, it's almost easy. Can be intimidating until you successfully flash one, though. " https://distrotoot.com/@retroedgetech/107103272959918727Oct 15 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroEdge.Tech: "I've been doing more with #coreboot on Chromebook…" - DistroTootOct 15 07:22
techrights-news" #Finland bought its first supercomputer in 1989, a used Cray X-MP. It has 4 vector processors running at a bit over 100 MHz, 128 MiB RAM, and 38.4 GiB storage. It was used for predicting weather and scientific research." https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/107098618957944077Oct 15 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "Finland bought its first supercomputer in 1989, a…" - toot.liw.fiOct 15 07:23
techrights-news"Are you also concerned that the EU wants to ban anonymous/protected domains and mandate identification of domain owners incl. your address and phone number?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107098986994490290 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/Oct 15 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "🇬🇧Are you also concerned that the EU wants to ban…" - chaos.socialOct 15 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office ‘Force’ EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices?Oct 15 07:24
activelowthey say it is a "free market", however in a free market a developer was not forced to suppot any vendor, in particular microsoftOct 15 07:25
psydruidI still think killing off windows is worth it, but those of us who know better know that gnu/linux is going to take its place and it will not all be happy campingOct 15 07:25
activelowi think the best approach was to keep particular customers at microsoft/apple/IBM Wintel, and keep clean gnu/linux and bsd from specific influencesOct 15 07:26
psydruidbut it is still much easier to move from gnu/linux to something else than to be stuck in a family of operating systems such as OpenVMS and Vista with nowhere to goOct 15 07:26
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psydruidI don't think that would be the solution either, as you are keeping moribund companies alive by paying them for their obsolete productsOct 15 07:27
psydruidas much as I dislike what gnu/linux has been turned intoOct 15 07:28
activelowthe problem is that corrupt companies *enforce* their products onto those who deny themOct 15 07:28
activelowbecause, if microsoft/apple/android served those who want it then this wasn't any concern of mineOct 15 07:28
psydruidgnu/linux is just an implementation of a POSIX a compatible operating systemOct 15 07:29
psydruidmany came before and many will come afterOct 15 07:29
activelowinstead microsoft (and IBM Wintel PC) enforces their products onto everyone, event those who deny itOct 15 07:29
psydruidthe problem lies in thinking it was the end all and be all of computing, but that was probably a naive thought by some peopleOct 15 07:30
activelowand i do not appreciate the idea microsoft affiliates dress up with gnu/linux or bsd and push their agenda under this bannerOct 15 07:31
psydruidthat's why those companies need to be attacked in the marketplaceOct 15 07:31
psydruidtheir products can't compete so they cooptOct 15 07:32
psydruidit's expected behaviour on the part of sociopathsOct 15 07:32
activelowthe products can compete and do accomodate particular customers whom i wouldn't want to deal with myself; however, the problem is microsoft ibm wintel pc *enforce* their products onto everyoneOct 15 07:33
psydruid"we are linux too now"Oct 15 07:33
psydruidthey compete in an ever shrinking niche perhapsOct 15 07:34
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activelowneither, the majority of systems are "consumer electronics" and entertainmentOct 15 07:34
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activelowand this is what products are tailored for now, even when it isn't useful for those who have other interestsOct 15 07:35
psydruidbribes probably have a lot to do with pushing things like TeamsOct 15 07:35
psydruidI don't know anyone who would willingly use thatOct 15 07:35
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psydruidand I believe I read that the EU is going to investigate bundling it into Microsoft 365Oct 15 07:36
activelowthe EU so far ruled in the interest of microsoft mostlyOct 15 07:36
schestowitz-TR[07:35] <psydruid> I don't know anyone who would willingly use thatOct 15 07:37
psydruidI think I used Teams twice from a browser, but it's basically pushing things that already have free alternatives such as IRC, Jitsi etc.Oct 15 07:37
schestowitz-TRbundlingOct 15 07:37
activelowremember their decision concerning Internet Explorer bundled? as if choosing Mozilla had changed anything, the EU decision barely scratched the surface of interests involvedOct 15 07:37
schestowitz-TRthey need to also look into EPOOct 15 07:37
schestowitz-TRbut they are not going toOct 15 07:37
schestowitz-TRactivelow: it's politicalOct 15 07:38
schestowitz-TRthe handling of itOct 15 07:38
schestowitz-TRthey just need to keep x people bribedOct 15 07:38
schestowitz-TRand they are offthe hookOct 15 07:38
activelowif EU had decided, for example, vendor-independent criteria must exist to comply with, otherwise vendors were *forbidden* to supply schools, universities and public institutionsOct 15 07:38
activelowin fact, even without EU ruling, specific consumer protection among other legisltion might suffice already all IBM Wintel PC microsoft products had to be removed from schools and universitiesOct 15 07:39
activelowso, instead EU "sanctioning" IBM Wintel PC microsoft products, they somehow legitimize this, with an argument implied this problem was dealt with alreadyOct 15 07:39
activelowalthough it hasn't beenOct 15 07:39
schestowitz-TREU auths are useless for competitonOct 15 07:40
schestowitz-TRat the end we need to drive change without the beurocratsOct 15 07:41
schestowitz-TRboycotts are one meansOct 15 07:41
schestowitz-TR*bureaucrats Oct 15 07:41
activelowdifficulty, boycott exactly whom or what? the malicious products and business habits are common everywhereOct 15 07:41
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psydruidMicrosoft perpetuated IBM and DEC's position into the modern era, but we have a chance to beat them and kill the VMS line of operating systems and applications and middleware foreverOct 15 07:42
activelowno, i think what must be prevented is particular vendors *enforcing* their products onto those who deny themOct 15 07:43
psydruidthey are only still alive because it's incompatible with anything else out there, making it harder to move software overOct 15 07:43
psydruidyou have to start somewhereOct 15 07:43
schestowitz-TRat least we can recognise the barrier IBM too has becomeOct 15 07:43
schestowitz-TRBTW, you won't see any more thelayoff links hereOct 15 07:44
schestowitz-TRhopefully neverOct 15 07:44
schestowitz-TRthey went overboard with censorshipOct 15 07:44
schestowitz-TRso now it's hard for me to know if and when IBM lays off whole teams and groups surgically while glaslighting what's left of the "media"Oct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRIBM is openwashing mainframesOct 15 07:45
psydruidand the operating system is often the biggest barrier, as applications are intentionally tied to itOct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRwhen in fact overtime POWER got more proprietaryOct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRand IBM still tries to leverage monopoly powerOct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRLF does this openwashingOct 15 07:45
psydruid"Open"POWEROct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRdisguised as "open" and "ethics"Oct 15 07:45
schestowitz-TRsometimes I wonder if IBM has 2-3 times more power over LF than MicrosoftOct 15 07:46
activelowproblem is, any corporation which played fair has a severe competitive disadvantageOct 15 07:46
schestowitz-TRIntel was an OSDL handler and still has tons of power over LF. Intel also works for Microsoft.Oct 15 07:46
psydruidRaptor is helping them by being useful idiots, even though their intentions may be in principle nobleOct 15 07:46
schestowitz-TRTALOSOct 15 07:46
schestowitz-TRyes, I mentioned that the other dayOct 15 07:47
schestowitz-TRI can find/locate the contextOct 15 07:47
schestowitz-TRsome people blow tons of money on these thingsOct 15 07:47
schestowitz-TRlike they'e finding "Freedom"Oct 15 07:47
schestowitz-TRand all they get is IBM as their masterOct 15 07:47
Ariadnetalos is jokeOct 15 07:48
psydruidI found it hilarious when they started selling the systems and I find it hilarious nowOct 15 07:48
Ariadneopenpower is total shitOct 15 07:48
Ariadneyou can get the same level of openness from ARMOct 15 07:48
schestowitz-TRAriadne: I did not knowOct 15 07:48
Ariadne"""openness"""Oct 15 07:48
Ariadnerisc-v is what we should be pushingOct 15 07:49
psydruidARM assembly also looks much nicer than POWER assemblyOct 15 07:49
schestowitz-TRa few years ago with pleroma.site you tried to transition to POWER and has IBM reps overOct 15 07:49
Ariadne:DOct 15 07:49
schestowitz-TRso you would know how performant those things areOct 15 07:49
schestowitz-TRI remember them locking up or somethingOct 15 07:49
Ariadnequite performant, when you do not have buggy firmware and defective system boardOct 15 07:49
schestowitz-TRis what IBM hopes to distract from --> [07:49] <Ariadne> risc-v is what we should be pushingOct 15 07:50
Ariadneafter three (3!) replacements, i finally got a POWER9 machine that actually workedOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRopenMicrosoftOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRopenUEFIOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRopenFSFOct 15 07:50
Ariadnetbh UEFI is not that badOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRopenGNUOct 15 07:50
Ariadneokay, it is pretty badOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRAriadne: not uefi itselfOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRbut some antifeatures of itOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRit's also too complexOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRthose things should stay simpleOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRand now network-accessibleOct 15 07:50
Ariadnethe only antifeature is that microsoft is the only default root of trustOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TR*notOct 15 07:50
schestowitz-TRand not possible for the OS to modifyOct 15 07:51
Ariadnebut, admittedly, that is a hard one to solveOct 15 07:51
schestowitz-TRAriadne: Windows has bug doorsOct 15 07:51
Ariadneif you do your security based on PKI anywayOct 15 07:51
schestowitz-TRand then they tell us about bootkitsOct 15 07:51
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schestowitz-TRlike a home with a front door wide open bragging about the alarm systemOct 15 07:51
Ariadnethe Apple M1 has totally open secure bootOct 15 07:51
Ariadnethe way it works is very simpleOct 15 07:52
Ariadneyou just enroll the hash of the next boot payloadOct 15 07:52
schestowitz-TRm1 is even more restrictiveOct 15 07:52
Ariadnenah, it's notOct 15 07:52
schestowitz-TRfor mac os users it has spying 'features' tooOct 15 07:52
schestowitz-TRso it's another bag of wormsOct 15 07:52
Ariadnethe hardware side is totally fineOct 15 07:52
schestowitz-TRalso, it pays a company that treats everyone like a pedopileOct 15 07:52
schestowitz-TR*phileOct 15 07:52
Ariadneit is more "restrictive" in that secure boot is enabled and cannot be disabled, but the end-user may install whatever payload she wishesOct 15 07:53
Ariadneso, for example, to run Linux on M1Oct 15 07:53
schestowitz-TRAriadne: I'd rather give money to more modest chip makersOct 15 07:53
schestowitz-TRsadly, arm might eventually be nvidia (still)Oct 15 07:53
Ariadneyou install m1n1 bootloader on the machine, and enroll its hash in secure bootOct 15 07:53
Ariadneand after that, you're doneOct 15 07:53
Ariadnenever have to touch the system firmware ever againOct 15 07:53
schestowitz-TRbut you still pay appleOct 15 07:53
Ariadnebetter them than intel/microsoftOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRlike people who buy "mac" PCs for gnu/linuxOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRwe need to move towards support of OEMs committed to freedomOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRsome do existOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRyes, many use AMD or Intel chipsOct 15 07:54
Ariadnesure, there's multiple gambits at play hereOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRthe more I use non-x86 the more I like itOct 15 07:54
schestowitz-TRlike my fanless laptop Oct 15 07:55
AriadneM1 is a path to getting reasonably free, user-controlled hardware *now*Oct 15 07:55
Ariadnethat is actually performantOct 15 07:55
Ariadneand cheapOct 15 07:55
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schestowitz-TRonly apple can sell theseOct 15 07:55
schestowitz-TRand by giving money to apple we feed the wrong companyOct 15 07:55
Ariadnethe companies we want to feed aren't making viable kit yet, as riscv64 CPUs aren't there yetOct 15 07:55
Ariadneprobably in 2022 thoughOct 15 07:56
schestowitz-TRanyway, chip shortage :-)Oct 15 07:56
Ariadnebut for now, if you want fastest possible performance with minimal freedom loss, M1 really is the best bet.  it's sad, but it's also the truthOct 15 07:56
schestowitz-TRI think I have enough chips at home for nowOct 15 07:56
schestowitz-TRto last me another decade assuming I can reuse bitsOct 15 07:57
Ariadneif you do not need performance, then buy libreboot hardware, that's another good optionOct 15 07:57
schestowitz-TRwhere can I buy m1 chip?Oct 15 07:57
Ariadnethe only competitive ARM silicon to M1 is by qualcomm, and that is far more locked downOct 15 07:57
psydruidit's not about M1, it's about all other companies dropping the ballOct 15 07:58
Ariadne^Oct 15 07:58
psydruidif those had competitive chips, we wouldn't be talking about M1 in the first placeOct 15 07:58
Ariadneexactly, nobody would care about M1Oct 15 07:59
schestowitz-TRanyway, paying $1000 for a chip seems unreasonableOct 15 07:59
schestowitz-TRI can get 10 arm laptops for that priceOct 15 07:59
Ariadneyou're not paying $1000 for an M1 machineOct 15 07:59
Ariadneyou can get a mac mini for like $499Oct 15 07:59
schestowitz-TRstill expensiveOct 15 07:59
schestowitz-TRand it's "low end"Oct 15 07:59
Ariadnenot for what you get performance wiseOct 15 07:59
AriadnenahOct 15 07:59
schestowitz-TRby Apple's own standardsOct 15 07:59
Ariadneby their standards, yesOct 15 08:00
Ariadneby the rest of the playing field, noOct 15 08:00
schestowitz-TRmy main laptop was 200 poundsOct 15 08:00
Ariadnealmost all other ARM silicon that isn't qualcomm is still cortex-a72 crapOct 15 08:00
Ariadnesome of the chromebooks are cortex-a76Oct 15 08:00
schestowitz-TRyesOct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TRbut...Oct 15 08:01
Ariadnebut mt8172 SoC has a GPU which will never be RE'd because there is no valueOct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TRfor many purposes that is enoughOct 15 08:01
AriadneM1 is basically 4x fasterOct 15 08:01
Ariadnethan cortex-a72Oct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TReven for video editing if you get enough of themOct 15 08:01
Ariadneon a *single* efficiency coreOct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TRwhat software do people use? CNN.com? :-)Oct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TR'crypto' mining/Oct 15 08:01
schestowitz-TRgames?Oct 15 08:02
schestowitz-TRa lot of gpu-intensive stuffOct 15 08:02
schestowitz-TRnot cpuOct 15 08:02
Ariadneyes, and ARM's Mali GPU is shitOct 15 08:02
schestowitz-TRand the gameplay sucksOct 15 08:02
AriadneM1 has a decent GPU on the SoCOct 15 08:02
Ariadnethere's a reason why all these people are hacking on itOct 15 08:02
activelowperformance/watt it isOct 15 08:03
schestowitz-TRfor people who put vanilla debian on itOct 15 08:03
Ariadneits not because they love apple, but because apple is the only vendor offering anything with compelling economics and performanceOct 15 08:03
schestowitz-TRbut they help apple make salesOct 15 08:03
Ariadneand no bullshit secure boot lockdown like qualcommOct 15 08:03
activelowand i do not trust AppleM1, couldn't review firmware/init of it yet, doubt it is free and openOct 15 08:03
Ariadneagain, apple's "secure boot" is: you enroll the hash of whatever you're booting, and the system firmware checks the hash before chainloading to itOct 15 08:03
schestowitz-TRqualcomm and apple both harm us with patentsOct 15 08:03
schestowitz-TRqualcomm does its own unique bad things, as does apple..Oct 15 08:04
schestowitz-TRthat's like buying Microsoft 'Surface' for some reasonOct 15 08:04
schestowitz-TRbetter not do that at allOct 15 08:04
activelowok, however i do not trust the entire firmware, regardless of securboot implementation detailsOct 15 08:04
Ariadneactivelow: that's the entire firmwareOct 15 08:04
schestowitz-TR"secure boot" is worthless for many reasonsOct 15 08:04
Ariadnethere is nothing like BIOS or UEFI on M1Oct 15 08:04
schestowitz-TRnotably, those who promote it don't care for security in the first placeOct 15 08:05
Ariadnethe M1 firmware is basically apple's take on ubootOct 15 08:05
schestowitz-TRit's about cracking down on computers that let the owners, eeerm, own themOct 15 08:05
Ariadneit doesn't even know what USB or wifi or nvme isOct 15 08:05
schestowitz-TRand instead dictate what "secure" meansOct 15 08:05
schestowitz-TRlike Apple scanning thingsOct 15 08:05
activelowok, so there's no free and open u-boot for apple-m1 (not talking about a chainloaded u-boot loader)Oct 15 08:05
Ariadnewell, of course notOct 15 08:06
Ariadnebut the bootloader is burned into mask rom anywayOct 15 08:06
Ariadneit can't be upgraded by anyoneOct 15 08:06
Ariadneso really M1 meets FSF RYF certification ^_^Oct 15 08:06
activelowdoubt itOct 15 08:06
Ariadneno, really, it doesOct 15 08:06
schestowitz-TRI personally antagonise "advancement" based on the argument of "new" or "powerful" alone...that's why we ended with "sites" that take up 500MB of RAMOct 15 08:07
Ariadneif nobody can upgrade it, then there is no freedom issue, go read the RYF certification guidelinesOct 15 08:07
schestowitz-TRthunderbird now takes up 1.5GB of RAM to openOct 15 08:07
Ariadneit is "just a circuit" as far as FSF is concernedOct 15 08:07
schestowitz-TRsettles after thatOct 15 08:07
schestowitz-TRI used to use that on a PC with 32MB or RAM total, for everything inc. OSOct 15 08:07
schestowitz-TR[08:06] <Ariadne> so really M1 meets FSF RYF certification ^_^Oct 15 08:08
Ariadne(but Ariadne, there is a graphical boot menu that you can open on the M1)Oct 15 08:08
schestowitz-TRI will believe it when I see itOct 15 08:08
schestowitz-TRthey probably would find many other issuesOct 15 08:08
Ariadnewell, the default OS it comes with obviously does not RYFOct 15 08:08
Ariadnebut if somebody took M1s, and Asahized them, it would RYFOct 15 08:08
schestowitz-TRthere is that...Oct 15 08:08
Ariadneanyway, the stuff you would normally expect in UEFIOct 15 08:09
Ariadneon the M1Oct 15 08:09
Ariadneis done by the second stage bootloaderOct 15 08:09
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Ariadnewhich is literally a micro MacOS imageOct 15 08:09
Ariadnestored on emmc flashOct 15 08:09
Ariadneyou can totally replace that todayOct 15 08:09
Ariadneif you wantOct 15 08:09
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Ariadneit is pretty funny honestlyOct 15 08:09
schestowitz-TRAriadne: you need Apple to license itOct 15 08:10
schestowitz-TRunless they do, m1 is 100% appleOct 15 08:10
Ariadnelicense what?Oct 15 08:10
Ariadneyes, we agree that m1 is 100% apple cpuOct 15 08:10
schestowitz-TRin which case, that's not freedomOct 15 08:10
Ariadnejust like intel core i7Oct 15 08:10
Ariadneis 100% intel cpuOct 15 08:10
schestowitz-TRAriadne: licence of reuse for exampleOct 15 08:10
Ariadnewhat is your pointOct 15 08:10
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schestowitz-TRm1 is a monopolyOct 15 08:10
Ariadnem1 is an implementation of ARMOct 15 08:10
Ariadnebuy a license from ARMOct 15 08:10
Ariadnemake your own CPUOct 15 08:10
schestowitz-TRmake one shouldOct 15 08:10
schestowitz-TRapple's is apple'sOct 15 08:10
Ariadneyes, just like intel core i7 is intel'sOct 15 08:11
Ariadneand amd ryzen is amd'sOct 15 08:11
schestowitz-TRyupOct 15 08:11
Ariadnethe underlying ISA is licensable thoughOct 15 08:11
schestowitz-TRm1 is notOct 15 08:11
schestowitz-TRso you are locked into one vendorOct 15 08:11
schestowitz-TRand not an ethical one at thatOct 15 08:11
Ariadnewhat?Oct 15 08:11
schestowitz-TRapple promotes many bad things outside chipsOct 15 08:12
Ariadnethis is like saying that x86 is not open because intel won't license their CPU designOct 15 08:12
psydruidAllwinner, Rockchip, Mediatek, Amlogic, Qualcomm ...Oct 15 08:12
Ariadnethere is no shortage of competing ARM chips out thereOct 15 08:12
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Ariadnei mean, admittedly, most of them are crappy cortex-a72 derivativesOct 15 08:13
schestowitz-TRapple m1: starting point of $500Oct 15 08:13
activelowopencores.org documents what's free and opensource, and what's missingOct 15 08:13
Ariadneand most of them do not use IOMMUs to properly contain I/O accessesOct 15 08:13
schestowitz-TRrasp: starting price around $50Oct 15 08:13
AriadneyesOct 15 08:13
schestowitz-TReven less for older models, 35 pounsOct 15 08:13
AriadneandOct 15 08:13
schestowitz-TR*poundsOct 15 08:13
Ariadneits the same shitOct 15 08:13
activeloweven if an instruction set architecture ws free and opensource, a full SoC design contains many more componentsOct 15 08:14
Ariadneactivelow: yes, and full SoC designsOct 15 08:14
Ariadnecan be purchased from dozens of vendorsOct 15 08:14
Ariadneif you don't like M1, go buy a raspberry piOct 15 08:14
schestowitz-TRfor $499 I get all my PCs, 4 of themOct 15 08:14
Ariadnethe performance even on rpi4 won't be anywhere near the sameOct 15 08:14
Ariadnebut if you're not compiling packages all day, i'm sure it will be fine for youOct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRunlike mac "mini", they have 4 screens, tooOct 15 08:15
Ariadnefor people who *are* compiling shit all dayOct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRAriadne: can compile on computation serverOct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRsome are made as serversOct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRI don't want my desktops to be like serversOct 15 08:15
activelowi do compile all day, on a distcc cluster of cortex a53Oct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRit slows them downOct 15 08:15
schestowitz-TRit also increases latency a lotOct 15 08:16
*Ariadne shrugsOct 15 08:16
schestowitz-TRwhen I re-encode videos I have to nice aggressivelyOct 15 08:16
schestowitz-TRrenice alsoOct 15 08:16
Ariadneso, just because you offload tasks to other machines, you don't care how fast those tasks get completed?Oct 15 08:16
Ariadneis that what you're saying here?Oct 15 08:16
activelowAriadne: me?Oct 15 08:16
schestowitz-TRthere are some server setups based on ARM cores with like 100 coresOct 15 08:16
AriadneyesOct 15 08:17
schestowitz-TRand they're not very expensiveOct 15 08:17
Ariadneand those costOct 15 08:17
AriadnehahahahahaOct 15 08:17
Ariadnewhat?Oct 15 08:17
schestowitz-TRless than $1000Oct 15 08:17
activelowAriadne: power consumption and costs is what i care aboutOct 15 08:17
AriadnenoOct 15 08:17
schestowitz-TRthe ARM onesOct 15 08:17
AriadneAltra, with 80 Neoverse N1 coresOct 15 08:17
schestowitz-TRpsydruid might have a link handyOct 15 08:17
Ariadneis 7900 GBPOct 15 08:17
Ariadneunless you are talking about the thunderx2 stuff that hyperscalers are dumping on the secondary marketOct 15 08:18
Ariadnein which caseOct 15 08:18
schestowitz-TRwhatever worksOct 15 08:18
activelowwith the distcc setup i got 16 threads in total, on four tiniest cortex-a53 SBC, with each requiring ~5Watts under full loadOct 15 08:18
Ariadnetrust me, you do not want those thunderx2 machinesOct 15 08:18
Ariadnethey have tons of errataOct 15 08:18
schestowitz-TRbrbOct 15 08:18
schestowitz-TRgymOct 15 08:18
psydruidthere aren't a lot of affordable options for higher-end ARM boards and systems, sadlyOct 15 08:18
activelowdistcc scalability is limitedOct 15 08:18
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activelowhowever, i've come to conclude, 16 threads at 1.2GHz is alot of processing power for compilation, and this simply must be enoughOct 15 08:19
psydruidMac Mini M1 is one of the more affordable ones and that is why a small part of the GNU/Linux developer community flocked to themOct 15 08:20
activelowotherwise i cut down elsewhereOct 15 08:20
psydruidhopefully more options will become available, either ARM or (better) RISC-VOct 15 08:20
activelowand that's one reason why, i've got so many things on my hitlist here, of great free and opensource softwareOct 15 08:20
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AriadnebtwOct 15 08:21
Ariadneactivelow, the mac mini m1 running as a headless server, uses ~5wOct 15 08:21
Ariadnefor the entire thingOct 15 08:21
Ariadneso you get 8 threads at 3ghzOct 15 08:21
Ariadnein ~5wOct 15 08:21
activelowawesome, no need to argueOct 15 08:22
Ariadneseems to me like distccing that makes more senseOct 15 08:22
Ariadneif you can afford the $499 per node anywayOct 15 08:22
activelow8threads at 3ghz are sufficient, no need for distcc thenOct 15 08:22
Ariadneand i am 100% dead serious about M1 being RYF certifiableOct 15 08:23
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Ariadne(this is of course more a criticism of the usefulness of RYF than an assessment of the freedom of the M1 SoC)Oct 15 08:27
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Ariadneoh, i stand corrected, the M1 does have one blob that Linux has to deal withOct 15 08:33
Ariadnethe broadcom wifi firmwareOct 15 08:33
Ariadnewhich is the same old shit every linux has to deal with if they use broadcom wifi :pOct 15 08:34
psydruidI don't even use the Broadcom WiFi on my Powermac G5 and prefer to have it connected over EthernetOct 15 08:36
Ariadnewell if you dont care then :POct 15 08:36
activelowi prefer no WiFi chip soldered anywhereOct 15 08:36
Ariadnelinux-libre will work out of the box on M1 ^_^Oct 15 08:36
activelowdoesn't mean various option roms were free just because linux kernel didn't load themOct 15 08:37
activelowanyway, i got no long term plans with neither x86 nor arm anymoreOct 15 08:38
psydruidI don't even use it on my Orange Pi, but that's because the (crappy) Realtek hardware and the driver aren't ready to be used in any shape or formOct 15 08:38
activelowrockchip has the benefit of decent u-boot loader support, i wouldn't depend on this vendor eitherOct 15 08:39
activelowpsydruid: if you check the documentation for memory maps, rockchip marks various memory address regions as "reserved"/undocumented, even when a fully opensource and free u-boot loader is deployedOct 15 08:39
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techrights_guest|84Cool article. So what is an alternative...?Oct 15 08:40
activelowmore than 100MiB of memory "reserved"/undocumentedOct 15 08:40
activelowtechrights_guest|84: a fully free and opensource SoC deployed onto FPGA is the alternativeOct 15 08:41
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activelowwhich may not necessarily support linux anymore either, and many FPGA boards (Xilinx/Altera and required tooling) are anything but free and openOct 15 08:41
activelowand then, if any individual peripheral chip is verified, often some USB controller or similar raise suspicionOct 15 08:43
activelowAdafruit/Atmega(AVR RISC) isn't free and opensource, and often deployed to attach flash storage, ftdi usb for jtag debugging or flashing, none of this is free and opensourceOct 15 08:44
psydruidis there no alternative to FTDI?Oct 15 08:46
activelowyes, no usb at all, or some usb-controller available on opencores.org, however, no ready-made SoC design existsOct 15 08:46
activelowneedless to say, deployment onto FPGA is expensive, and i doubt affordable FPGA boards are available (checked already)Oct 15 08:47
activelowadd to this, FPGA boards have limited cells and GPIOs available, i would rather drop the idea of USB entirely, and resort to some FloppyDisk controller for storage, serial line for networkingOct 15 08:48
activelowlong story short, there is always something, some microchip, some firmware, some proprietary toolingOct 15 08:49
activelownot at least some serial to vt100 termination (geoff's vt100 or Z80 RC2014 vt100 terminal board) were fully free and open (PIC32, or STM32 with the ones i found)Oct 15 08:50
psydruidI just see it as free hardware design being at the start of its life cycle, just as free software was 40 years agoOct 15 08:52
psydruidwe will have to replace parts one by one until we end up with a fully free hardware designOct 15 08:52
psydruidthere will be threats and lawsuits, but that's the price you pay for valuing freedom over convenienceOct 15 08:53
activelowi think a clean VT100 was something to think about first, such as replaceing the microchip pic32 or stm32 in the vt100 terminal boards mentioned, with some free and open chip and free softwareOct 15 08:54
activelowVGA graphics out for vt100 termination is a problem, because it requires relatively fast RAM, and relatively high clock speeds, which rules out most FPGA alreadyOct 15 08:56
activelowgeoff's vt100 or Z80 RC 2014 vt100 terminal boards are a good start to think about what freedom respecting hardware and software areOct 15 08:57
psydruidis there any chance of seeing more powerful FPGAs coming out of Lattice Semiconductor?Oct 15 08:57
activelowlattice offerings are decent, i got one on my list shipped in europe, with 512KiB SRAM available even, but it's clock speed is too slow for VGA output for vt100 terminationOct 15 08:58
activelowsome other VT100 termination project used 7400TTL chips, fully free and open schematics, but it's software was closed sourceOct 15 08:59
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schestowitz-TR[08:33] <Ariadne> oh, i stand corrected, the M1 does have one blob that Linux has to deal withOct 15 09:05
schestowitz-TR:-)Oct 15 09:05
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schestowitz-TRCC should know better :/Oct 15 09:18
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activelowitaly fully enforces covid restrictions now: either vaccination, testing or medical approval of recovery are mandatory everywhereOct 15 09:24
activelowverified with a QR code on mobile phone, and culture and artists welcome this idea to continue their businessOct 15 09:25
techrights-news#rms speaks tomorrow in #claret #france https://stallman.org/talks.html #freesw #frOct 15 09:25
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activelowwell, sure, political opposition from culture and arts... who welcome thisOct 15 09:25
schestowitz-TRactivelow: but they allow testingOct 15 09:26
activelowhow liberal and anti-fascist they are, culture and artsOct 15 09:26
schestowitz-TRand that's not likely enforced to buy essentials such as foodOct 15 09:26
schestowitz-TRtesting is not badOct 15 09:26
schestowitz-TRfor flights I think they should also require testing from the vaccinatedOct 15 09:27
activelowschestowitz-TR: i read some news report this morning already, in some federal state in germany (Hessen) it was legally compliant to deny entrance into supermarketOct 15 09:27
schestowitz-TRas testing is more importantOct 15 09:27
activelowonly vaccinated or tested, and a test costs ~25EurosOct 15 09:27
schestowitz-TRbut anyway, this is mostly ot for this channel while people quote-mine is to distract from the technical writyingsOct 15 09:27
activelowwhich isn't enforced yet, however, it is considered legally compliantOct 15 09:28
schestowitz-TRtesting is likely OKOct 15 09:28
activelowand, mobile phone with QR code, as far as the technology of this is concernedOct 15 09:28
schestowitz-TRand if they don't mandate "phones"Oct 15 09:28
activelowthe testing is scam to begin withOct 15 09:28
schestowitz-TRbetter than noneOct 15 09:28
schestowitz-TRat least you can roughly guess who has itOct 15 09:28
activelowif they measured fever at the entrance and insist on face mask, ok, maybe, if this qualified as testingOct 15 09:29
schestowitz-TRdepends whereOct 15 09:29
activelowspitting slime with a 50/50 chance of false positive/negative isn't anyOct 15 09:29
schestowitz-TRdon't do this for food shoppingOct 15 09:29
schestowitz-TRmandating masks seems fair to meOct 15 09:29
schestowitz-TRmasks don't pain people except fewOct 15 09:29
schestowitz-TRand they can get exemptions, usually people with chronic respiratory problemsOct 15 09:30
activelowmasks at least do not infringe constitutional rightsOct 15 09:30
schestowitz-TRactivelow: you are 40 this year, you def. don't want to get infected with thisOct 15 09:30
schestowitz-TRit might not kill you, but can turn you inside outOct 15 09:30
activelowit isn't clear yet if EU/Germany will escalate with this agenda; italy does escalateOct 15 09:31
schestowitz[09:31] <schestowitz> activelow: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/Oct 15 09:32
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schestowitz[09:31] <schestowitz> thios is more worrisome to meOct 15 09:32
schestowitz[09:31] <schestowitz> the pressure on people to be de facto RDIFed by 'phone' ownershipOct 15 09:32
schestowitz[09:32] <schestowitz> and all this QR thing also compel them to carry them around all the timeOct 15 09:32
schestowitz[09:32] <schestowitz> this we must opposeOct 15 09:32
schestowitz[09:32] <schestowitz> it's tyranny of unprecedented proportions, worse than DehomagOct 15 09:32
schestowitzsorry, posted this to the wrong channelOct 15 09:33
schestowitz ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams  ☞ Opinion | There Can Be No Compromise on #VotingRights https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/14/there-can-be-no-compromise-voting-rights Oct 15 09:38
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Ariadnei mean, laptops can read QR codes tooOct 15 09:39
Ariadnejust pull out a thinkpad and go with itOct 15 09:39
activelowi'll rather carry along a Z80 SBC instead, with AX.25 radioOct 15 09:40
schestowitz-TRgnome has an "app" for tokenOct 15 09:40
schestowitz-TRwith flatpakOct 15 09:40
schestowitz-TRbut still, that raises barriersOct 15 09:40
schestowitz-TRrather needlesslyOct 15 09:40
activelowi departed from Telekom 2005 already, after they implemented "mobile number portability", which wasn't the only reasonOct 15 09:43
schestowitz-TRwhat does that term mean?Oct 15 09:43
activelownonetheless, with MNP implement in mobile phone signalling, "routing on IMSI" was introducedOct 15 09:44
schestowitz-TRto some, at work, it may mean "boss must be able to reach me at all times"Oct 15 09:44
schestowitz-TRIBM: "you are IBM employee 100% of the time"Oct 15 09:44
activelowmeaning, it isn't the phone-number anymore to route signallig, it is the IMSI since thenOct 15 09:44
schestowitz-TRphone number is not the only fingerprintOct 15 09:44
activelow"mobile number portability" is a signaling protocol extension, to route signalling in circuit switched telcoOct 15 09:45
schestowitz-TRa decade ago I came to the conclusion that anonymous mobile phone ownership is not possibleOct 15 09:45
activelowand MNP changed the design fundementally, around year 2005, when *all* calls needed to be triggered into "intelligent network" to "route on IMSI"Oct 15 09:45
schestowitz-TRso they have, in effect, had already become "Stalin's Dream"Oct 15 09:45
schestowitz-TRactivelow: what are the effects on battery life?Oct 15 09:47
schestowitz-TRI don't know IMSIOct 15 09:47
activelow"international mobile subscriber identity"Oct 15 09:47
activelowwhich isn't the phone number to dial (MSISDN)Oct 15 09:47
schestowitz-TRobviouslyy a russian system :-)Oct 15 09:48
schestowitz-TRlike gps -)Oct 15 09:48
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activelowno, telco protocol signalling isn't some national standard, such as russian, it is international standard, ITU-T/ETSI/ANSIOct 15 09:57
schestowitz-TRI was jokingOct 15 09:57
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techrights-newsCanonical/Ubuntu: Hackathon, Mir, and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156807 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 10:46
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techrights-news#ArchLinux vs Ubuntu: which to choose? • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156808 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux vs Ubuntu: which to choose? | Tux MachinesOct 15 10:47
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techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156809 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 10:48
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techrights-newsLinks 15/10/2021: 95% of #Ransomware Targets Windows • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/windows-ransomware-2021/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/windows-ransomware-2021/Oct 15 11:11
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techrights-newsMy #Fedora Linux home network part 1 – the data server • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156810 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Fedora Linux home network part 1 – the data server | Tux MachinesOct 15 11:12
techrights-newsA new conceptual model for #Fedora • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156811 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A new conceptual model for Fedora | Tux MachinesOct 15 11:12
techrights-newsDevuan debuts version 4.0 – as usual without a hint of the hated systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156785#comment-31379Oct 15 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan GNU+Linux 4.0 “Chimaera” Released for Software Freedom Lovers, Based on Debian Bullseye | Tux MachinesOct 15 11:13
activelowChina: President Xi denies participation with next scheduled climate conferenceOct 15 11:13
techrights-newsCanonical launches Ubuntu 21.10 for desktop and server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31380Oct 15 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 “Impish Indri” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesOct 15 11:14
schestowitz-TRactivelow: send the COPSOct 15 11:14
activelowmeanwhile energy prices in Germany explodeOct 15 11:16
schestowitz-TRyeahOct 15 11:16
schestowitz-TRapparently here as wellOct 15 11:16
schestowitz-TRwhen I pay attentionOct 15 11:17
schestowitz-TRthey will blame the pandemicOct 15 11:17
schestowitz-TRfood prices alsoOct 15 11:17
schestowitz-TRthis they blame on oilOct 15 11:17
schestowitz-TRexpensive transportOct 15 11:17
activelowmost of the energy costs aren't energy, it is taxationOct 15 11:18
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▄▄▄▅▂▃▅▄▃▄▅▅▅▂▅▂▅▅▄▅▅▃▅▅▄▂▅▆▁▅▆▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 16.93 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▂▁█▂▂▁▃▄▂▂▅▁▁▂▃▂▂▅▁▂▁▁█▂▁▂▁▂▆▁▁ avg(k/sec) 38.83▕ swarm size (avg): 260.46  ⟲Oct 15 11:19
activelownext, both will probably happen: taxation on energy are planned for cuts (with cost cuts elsewhere necessary), and in parallel energy prices will continue to increaseOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRaverage person: why did food become so expensive?Oct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRa: because of transportOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRperson: why is transport more expensive?Oct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRa: oilOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRbut a year ago prices of energy collapsedOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRdue to lowered demandOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRso they need to make up their mindsOct 15 11:19
schestowitz-TRdoes pandmic reduce or increase energy pricesOct 15 11:20
activelownot at the scale announced, it is the taxation system surrounding "renewable" agenda which collapsesOct 15 11:20
schestowitz-TRcan't be both..Oct 15 11:20
activelowit is enterntaining, when "renewables" are announced as cheap energy supply. only problem: there is no supply with them, it is marginal, if at all.Oct 15 11:21
schestowitz-TR"LOOK! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE OF ENERGY, DO NOT BUY IT!!"Oct 15 11:21
activelowheating with wood pellets has become attractive, with specialized "solar" companies selling themOct 15 11:21
activelowhere is the next best thing with the "renewable" agenda: with only 20% of wood harvested in germany alot of construction (buildings) could be supplied, but aren't because, lack of wood supplyOct 15 11:22
activelowhow "innovative" they are, with their "renewable" energy agendaOct 15 11:23
activelownext epic mistake of them was associating "eco tax" with pension fund, in germany, and if energy taxation system collapses then this poses another threat, not only energy supply, but pensionsOct 15 11:24
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techrights-news#billBC (funded by #billgates for #propaganda purposes) doesn't get #poverty ... obsessing over the price of turkey and chocolates... if if everyone can afford theseOct 15 11:25
schestowitz-TRactivelow: what is better?Oct 15 11:25
schestowitz-TRa lot of current pension funds are tied to fossil fuel "investments"Oct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TRthe whole thing is a scamOct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TRI mean many pensions]Oct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TRspeculative and akin to ponzoOct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TR*ponzi schemeOct 15 11:26
activelowwell, fossil fuels aren't scam, nuclear power isn't either, the scam is the "renewable energy"Oct 15 11:26
activelowbecause, there is noneOct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe NFT... I hereby issue money to myself based on NFTOct 15 11:26
schestowitz-TRrenewable is mostly a buzzwordOct 15 11:27
schestowitz-TRlike "sustinable"Oct 15 11:27
schestowitz-TR[00:11] <techrights-news> #microsoftTim is now #greenwashing #microsoft with misleading headline. Link omitted, but #linuxfoundation does the same: http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/Oct 15 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ‘Linux’ Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobody’s Business | TechrightsOct 15 11:27
schestowitz-TRwe need to reduce pollutionOct 15 11:27
schestowitz-TRwe need to thus use meaningful termsOct 15 11:27
schestowitz-TRnotablyOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRconsumptionOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRoverpopulationOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRrecyclingOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRbut the corporations do not want thatOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRthe rich drive salesOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRnew "technologies"Oct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRmore gadgets... "green" onesOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRit's fakeOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRlike a lot of fake activismOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRand fake securityOct 15 11:28
schestowitz-TRthe parallel 'movements' are corporate-ledOct 15 11:29
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techrights-news#CutefishOS Built on #Ubuntu Run Through - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x_5aWxlmImM ䷉ #video #invidiousOct 15 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | CutefishOS Built on Ubuntu Run Through - InvidiousOct 15 11:36
techrights-news#KDE Plasma 5.23 Continues the Trend of Incremental Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156772#comment-31381Oct 15 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.23 Release Brings a Fresh Look with Performance Updates | Tux MachinesOct 15 11:38
activelownext inteview: "we need eco taxation to subsidize wind turbines and solar panels because we need electricity for heating and mobility and everything", sure. only problem, there is no energy supply available with solar and wind.Oct 15 11:38
schestowitz-TRsolar-powered welding:DOct 15 11:39
activelowthat's why they obfuscate and falsify all data, because the argument collapses, as soon as it is shown that wind turbines and solar do NOT supply, at whatever costs. energy which does not exist cannot be sold nor consumed nor taxed.Oct 15 11:39
techrights-news#microsoft #windows #vista Service Pack '11' already in trouble - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/microsofts-first-windows-11-update-addresses-amd-cpu-scheduling-problems-ends-up-making-them-worse/Oct 15 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft’s first Windows “11” update addresses AMD CPU scheduling problems. Ends up making them worse. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 11:40
techrights-news#DuckDuckGo is #snakeOil https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/vivaldi-adblock-is-mostly-adblock-plus-and-ublock-origin/ or much worse: http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/Oct 15 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Vivaldi Adblock is mostly Adblock Plus and ublock-origin. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | TechrightsOct 15 11:43
techrights-newsCorporate #greenwashing rapidly kills the debate about #climate and global warming. The solution isn't to make and sell more "green" things but to consume less, reuse more, reduce population sizes over decades. Corporations and oligarchs don't like that; it reduces their power over the population.Oct 15 11:46
techrights-newsThe environment does not care about "the economy" but the ecology (the former is a man-made artificial construct)Oct 15 11:47
schestowitz-TRactivelow: ^Oct 15 11:47
activelowschestowitz-TR: notedOct 15 11:48
techrights-news[Meme] ’Linux’ Foundation is #Greenwashing #Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobody’s Business • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ ䷉ #Techrights #Linux #greenwash | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/Oct 15 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ‘Linux’ Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobody’s Business | TechrightsOct 15 11:48
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activelowi'm not radical. i think "Vernunft" (reasonable behaviour) had sufficed.Oct 15 11:48
techrights-news#ibm #redhat : yes, we lay off and lose lots of staff; maybe we just need to use more buzzwords and leverage #covid19 somehow... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/devsecops-lessons-pandemicOct 15 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | DevSecOps lessons learned during a pandemic | The Enterprisers ProjectOct 15 11:49
activelowmaybe energy and resource consumption could be cut down by whatever 50% without any loss of comfort or productivity at allOct 15 11:49
schestowitz-TRproductivity is relativeOct 15 11:49
schestowitz-TRa lot of supposed "productivity" is mis-measuredOct 15 11:49
schestowitz-TRare telemarketers "productivity"?Oct 15 11:49
schestowitz-TRis marketing in general "productivity"?Oct 15 11:49
schestowitz-TRDoes it improve lives?Oct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRlike 100,000 brochures in people's mail boxes?Oct 15 11:50
activelowthe "eco green" agenda aimed and productive and competitive business, the industry, science, engineering, which is ruinousOct 15 11:50
activelowaimed atOct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRbut wautOct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRthere are environmentalistsOct 15 11:50
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schestowitz-TRthen there are fakesOct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRas with many things in lifeOct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRlike fake activistsOct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRand fake 'charities'Oct 15 11:50
schestowitz-TRdon't conflate the twoOct 15 11:51
schestowitz-TRmany people of racial minorities prove their worth by excellingOct 15 11:51
schestowitz-TRand make a strong case for equalityOct 15 11:51
schestowitz-TRnot cancelling people for calling their project in git something -> masterOct 15 11:51
activelowthis is an interesting aspect too, language pecularitiesOct 15 11:52
techrights-newsTIL Ray Kurzweil works for #Gulag https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/why-digital-transformation-demands-change-leadership-mindsetOct 15 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Why digital transformation demands a change in leadership mindset | The Enterprisers ProjectOct 15 11:52
activelowbecause, german language has a different meaning for "master", as I said, a master is a craftsman status based on competence, who instructs trainees (not slaves) to become masters themselves, based on competence and skills; this is the one and only meaning of "master" in german languageOct 15 11:53
schestowitz-TRon origin of the word:Oct 15 11:54
schestowitz-TR(french iirc)Oct 15 11:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/02/23/minds-of-profound-racists/Oct 15 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Word Master is Not Problematic in Most Contexts and Its Origin Hasn’t a Connection to Slavery | TechrightsOct 15 11:54
schestowitzI researched this for a bitOct 15 11:54
schestowitzconclusion was,Oct 15 11:54
schestowitzoriginal meaning has NOTHING to do with subjugationOct 15 11:54
schestowitzIBM et al might even be DELIBERATELY concern-trolling: http://techrights.org/2020/10/13/ibm-and-masters/Oct 15 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM: The Word “Master” is Rude (Except When We Use It Ourselves) | TechrightsOct 15 11:55
activelow"slave" is derived from schlafen, to sleep... ironic isn't it?Oct 15 11:55
schestowitzcreating some parallel dimension of "ethics"Oct 15 11:55
schestowitzbecause dropping their racist Pentagon contracts is not an optionOct 15 11:55
schestowitzin English slave is a negative connotationOct 15 11:56
schestowitzI can understand thatOct 15 11:56
schestowitzbut they never stopped at "slave"Oct 15 11:56
activelowto correct spelling is schlafenOct 15 11:56
schestowitznow the colour black is considered probematicOct 15 11:56
XRevan86activelow: It would be if that were true.Oct 15 11:56
schestowitzand at some stage you say, "ok, enough!"Oct 15 11:56
schestowitzXRevan86: any connection to "slav"?Oct 15 11:57
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes.Oct 15 11:58
techrights-news"Judge just approved the settlement [SCOBK-1535]. Lots of rubber stamping still to go. Xinuos still wants it chance to beat a dead horse, so we'll have to see how that goes." #sco #ibm #linux https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/overOct 15 11:59
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: freeforums.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/overOct 15 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grokthelaw.freeforums.net | Is it - over? | GroktheLawOct 15 11:59
schestowitz-TRIBM so IBM cares about Soviet area now?Oct 15 11:59
schestowitz-TRfwiw, Thomas Watson Jr. collaborated with the SovietsOct 15 12:00
schestowitz-TRhe was even ambassador thereOct 15 12:00
techrights-news"The overall build is relatively simple. Audio is acquired via a line-in jack or a microphone, and then piped into an ESP32." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/art-project-fast-and-fouriously-transforms-audio-into-eye-candy/Oct 15 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Art Project Fast And Fouriously Transforms Audio Into Eye Candy | HackadayOct 15 12:02
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs_(ethnonym)#Etymology "The English term slave derives from the ethnonym Slav. In medieval wars many Slavs were captured and enslaved, which led to the word slav becoming synonym to "enslaved person". In addition, the English word Slav derives from the Middle English word sclave, which was borrowed from Medieval Latin sclavus or slavus, itself a borrowing and ByzantinOct 15 12:03
XRevan86e Greek σκλάβος sklábos "slave," which was in turn apparently derived from a misunderstanding of the Slavic autonym (denoting a speaker of their own languages)."Oct 15 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Slavs (ethnonym) - WikipediaOct 15 12:03
techrights-newsFPGA Boards Add VGA And HMDI Interfaces To The Original Game Boy | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/15/fpga-boards-add-vga-and-hmdi-interfaces-to-the-original-game-boy/Oct 15 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FPGA Boards Add VGA And HMDI Interfaces To The Original Game Boy | HackadayOct 15 12:03
activelowin german language: sklave and schlaf is distinguished, it's a pronounciation pecularity againOct 15 12:04
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activelowin any case, a masters subordinate isn't a "sklave" in german language, it is a trainee (Lehrling)Oct 15 12:04
XRevan86activelow: I'm curious what is the basis for your conclusions.Oct 15 12:04
XRevan86activelow: In the English language a master's subordinate is called an apprentice.Oct 15 12:05
activelowXRevan86: one famous peom, among the most important pieces of literate, in german language is "Der Zauberlehrling", an apprentice, who practices dark magic, and loosing control over the spirits he called forOct 15 12:06
activelowand desperately calls for his master to return, to prevent disasterOct 15 12:07
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techrights-newsSomeone should explain the 'new' #mozilla what "hack" means; but they've fired all their good coders (hackers), now it's like #politicalParty https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/hacked-unravelling-a-data-breach/Oct 15 12:07
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/hacked-unravelling-a-data-breach/Oct 15 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Hacked! Unravelling a data breach - The Mozilla BlogOct 15 12:07
activelowXRevan86: another one is: Dr. Faust , a science master who signs a pact with the devilOct 15 12:07
*psydruid on orjaOct 15 12:07
techrights-news"At Mozilla, we work towards creating a safe and joyful Internet experience every day" Not really. #drm screws blind people, harms the Web, and confronts #firefox users, who are presumed criminals. Less posing, #mozilla ... go back to your roots.Oct 15 12:09
psydruidhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orja#EtymologyOct 15 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | orja - WiktionaryOct 15 12:09
psydruid#mozilla, go and find your roots ... six feet underOct 15 12:10
techrights-newsAll the links here are #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware "apps"; I don't think #mozilla grasps or cares for freedom anymore. http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/10/13/ctcft-2021-10-18-agenda/Oct 15 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smallcultfollowing.com | Baby StepsOct 15 12:11
techrights-newsOh, crap. #firefox mobile has BEEN OUTSOURCED TO #MICROSOFT ! You need to sign up with #microsoft and use #ProprietarySoftware to participate ... #mozilla is dead to me. https://fnordig.de/2021/10/14/fenix-physical-device-testingOct 15 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fnordig.de | Fenix Physical Device TestingOct 15 12:13
techrights-news#mozilla : subsidiary of #google powered by #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly to produce #drm sandbox for both. #www is dead, even with #firefoxOct 15 12:14
techrights-newsIf you value the open Web and #freesw you should regard today's #mozilla and #firefox mostly useless to you, at best a "lesser evil"... at bestOct 15 12:16
techrights-news#Sideload is a misnomer. Stop using that term. You're demonising the act of people taking control of their own devices which they paid for it. https://www.maketecheasier.com/sideload-apps-android-tv/Oct 15 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Sideload Apps on Fire TV, Roku, Android TV, Google Chromecast - Make Tech EasierOct 15 12:21
techrights-news#OSI is corrupt, so it attracts some of the corrupt like #microsoft and its #linuxfoundation https://www.linux.com/audience/iso-establishes-sbom-standard-for-open-source-development-with-spdx/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ISOOct 15 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISO establishes SBOM standard for open source development with SPDX - Linux.comOct 15 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ISO - TechrightsOct 15 12:27
gustafI guess other forges are ok with "master" ? Oct 15 12:30
techrights-newsMisleading headline because for a very long time #Microsoft has been keely censoring for China's regime https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/linkedin_china_microsoft/ #linkedin #censorship also in http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/Oct 15 12:31
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/linkedin_china_microsoft/Oct 15 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | LinkedIn is shutting down in China over increased censorship • The RegisterOct 15 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | TechrightsOct 15 12:31
schestowitz-TRgustaf: other forges do not work for ICEOct 15 12:31
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schestowitzpsydruid: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110Oct 15 12:35
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: statcounter.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110Oct 15 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsOct 15 12:35
schestowitznotice the 'rebound'Oct 15 12:35
schestowitztwo points for two billion dollars in spam?Oct 15 12:35
schestowitzthe WOW! starts now...Oct 15 12:35
psydruidtotal failure of a marketing campaignOct 15 12:35
techrights-news#Mozilla Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156812 #TuxMachinesOct 15 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 12:36
psydruidI have also noticed they have been sending more shills to social mediaOct 15 12:36
techrights-news#GNOME 41 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma 5.23 Is Coming Soon • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156813 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 41 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma 5.23 Is Coming Soon | Tux MachinesOct 15 12:36
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156814 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 15 12:36
psydruid"new" ones because previous "nicks"had become taintedOct 15 12:36
gustafall the more reson to change Oct 15 12:37
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: social control media is part of the budgetOct 15 12:37
schestowitz-TRbut bribing bloggers is oldOct 15 12:37
gustafI hear from geminispace that Gitlab don't work w/o jabbascriptOct 15 12:37
schestowitz-TRyeahOct 15 12:37
schestowitz-TRor barelyOct 15 12:37
schestowitz-TRevewn for reasonably simple functionalityOct 15 12:38
schestowitz-TRnot even use input or anythingOct 15 12:38
techrights-news"The goal of this project is to provide a conservative CSS toolkit which allows you to build web interfaces which are compatible with marginalized browsers like Netsurf and Lynx." https://drewdevault.com/2021/10/15/Status-update-October-2021.html #visurf #drewdevault #www #freeswOct 15 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Status update, October 2021Oct 15 12:40
techrights-news"Rails programmers have almost always tried to figure out the golden approach to business logic in their applications. From getting better at object-oriented design, to service objects, all the way to entirely new ideas like Trailblazer or leaving Active Record altogether. Here’s one more design approach that’s clean yet railsy." https://nts.strzibny.name/business-logic-in-rails-with-contexts/Oct 15 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Organizing business logic in Rails with contextsOct 15 12:41
gustaftbh it's weird that the gemini standards team isn't using Sr.htOct 15 12:41
gustafguess not everyone is a raving fan of DrewOct 15 12:42
schestowitz-TRgitlab was not always this badOct 15 12:42
schestowitz-TRRMS too said it was getting worse over timeOct 15 12:42
schestowitz-TRsome years ago I could still access gitlab forgresOct 15 12:42
schestowitz-TRnow they want some "Big Browser"Oct 15 12:43
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techrights-news"And it's still ugly as hell by default. How difficult is it for KDE devs to create a nice and polished default theme? They invest a lot in bug fixes, new features, new functions etc, but they forget about the interface theme...." https://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2021/10/congrats-kde.htmlOct 15 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com | Congrats KDEOct 15 13:09
activelowpreceeding scheduled coalition talks in germany: "planned mega write-off for digitalization"Oct 15 13:13
activelowthis isn't fixated with a coalition contract yet, and it isn't clear either what the intents areOct 15 13:14
techrights-news#Ubuntu 21.10 Available, News and Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31384Oct 15 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 “Impish Indri” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesOct 15 13:15
techrights-newsClient-side content scanning as an unworkable, insecure disaster for democracy • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/clientside_side_scanning/ ䷉ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Client-side content scanning as an unworkable, insecure disaster for democracy • The RegisterOct 15 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 15 13:16
activelowtypically, balance sheet write-offs cut down the rated value of a company, and too lowers taxation, and potential credits granted by banksOct 15 13:16
activelowanother plan is cutting down "renewable energy" subsidies, to lower electricity costs, which will be marginal given electricity reached ~30ct/kWh in germany, and subsidy-related tax is accounted for with ~3ct/kWh, which is marginal given the fact electricity costs almost doubledOct 15 13:17
techrights-news#microsoft #windows #vista Service Pack '11' (or #vista11 for short) is even worse than #vista10 (not that bribed-for media coverage is running dry) https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/windows_11_amd/Oct 15 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | This week's Windows 11 patch didn't fix AMD performance woes • The RegisterOct 15 13:18
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▂▂▅▂▄▅▇▂▁▃▃▄▆▅▂▄▂▂▃▃▆▅▄▅▄▄▅▂▃▇▁ avg(k/sec) 18.98 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▂▁█▁▁▂▂▁▁▁█▁▂▁▃▄▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 32.50▕ swarm size (avg): 260.44  ⟲Oct 15 13:18
psydruidso non-subsidised electricity is paying for subsidised electricity for companies by 5 timesOct 15 13:20
techrights-newsAndy Grove spoke with sick pervert and #famousCriminal #billgates to prop up another #monopoly https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/xbox_sorry_amd/Oct 15 13:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Xbox designer issues Twitter apology to AMD • The RegisterOct 15 13:20
psydruidand  even then they don't pay market ratesOct 15 13:20
activelowproblem is, the only credible data i had seen indicated "renewable energy" market share is marginal, effectively it is close to nothing.Oct 15 13:22
techrights-newsThe "What If" Performance Cost To Kernel Page Table Isolation On AMD CPUs - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=if-amd-kpti&num=1 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "What If" Performance Cost To Kernel Page Table Isolation On AMD CPUs - PhoronixOct 15 13:22
activelowand the taxation is justified by "renewable energy", which is taxation of nothing, to backup pension funds (eco tax, german, 1998/1999)Oct 15 13:23
activelowin parallel they plan to reform social security, replacing unemployment support with some type of generic "citizen basic income"Oct 15 13:24
activelowgiven the quality of unemployment services, such as the german employment database spammed and flooded by data scrapersOct 15 13:26
activelowi doubt they will cut down thereOct 15 13:26
techrights-newsMoments ago, Sky Noise: 43,000 people who were positive for #covid19 were tested "negative" (PCR). The "whole system seems broken" and number #covid cases in the #uk higher than reported, same for deaths by the way: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/Oct 15 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official FiguresOct 15 13:26
activelowbesides i asked for legal support from them, in case some employers didn't behave, and to my surprise such wasn't ever considered by themOct 15 13:27
techrights-newsContracts with #borisnaro will soon make "PCR billionaires". Who foots the bill to subsidise these "success" stories? British taxpayers with national insurance fee hikes.Oct 15 13:28
techrights-newsThey need to crack down on #Microsoft #Windows , instead; they use their #NSA #backdoors as a ruse to protect #bigbanks https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/Oct 15 13:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | White House ransomware summit calls for crypto crackdown • The RegisterOct 15 13:32
activelownext plan, "real estate acquisition with cash forbidden"... i am surprised this has been possible, to acquire real estate with cash instead of a registered transactionOct 15 13:33
gustafheheOct 15 13:35
gustafgood money-laundering opportunityOct 15 13:35
activelowyes, germany is considered a money laundering heaven, to buy anythin with excess cash, unregisteredOct 15 13:35
techrights-news#IBM has totally lost direction; this is how they think of Free software]... https://opensource.com/article/21/10/content-marketing-open-source-community #redhatOct 15 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reach your open source community with content marketing | Opensource.comOct 15 13:37
activelowanother one "400.000 new flats", in urban centers, rather late after the migration influx in recent yearsOct 15 13:38
techrights-newsExtreme Overclocker Takes #RaspberryPi to 3 GHz • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156815 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Extreme Overclocker Takes Raspberry Pi to 3 GHz | Tux MachinesOct 15 13:38
techrights-news#ProprietaryWeb and #Vista11 Performance Catastrophe • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156816 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Web and Vista 11 Performance Catastrophe | Tux MachinesOct 15 13:38
activelowside note: covid vaccination was supposed to be registered centrally, who had been vaccinated when; and this discrepancy was noted far more vaccine shots were distributed and administered than vaccinations reportedOct 15 13:39
schestowitz-TRthere are stockpiles of theseOct 15 13:39
schestowitz-TRthere is no shortageOct 15 13:39
schestowitz-TRUS stockpiles like half a billion dosesOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRin "world's lab" it's like 4 times more than there are citizensOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRso the big companies can sell more than there are peopleOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRbut in rich countriesOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRthey don't care about poor countriesOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TR"devaluing" their patent poolsOct 15 13:40
activelowi suspect this, immigrants required a vaccination status, and received it, but were not reported as vaccinatedOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRit's absurdOct 15 13:40
schestowitz-TRbut if you oppose this hoard, they might label you "anti-vaxxer"Oct 15 13:41
techrights-news#Thingiverse Data Leaked - Check Your Passwords | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/thingiverse-data-leaked-check-your-passwords/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thingiverse Data Leaked — Check Your Passwords | HackadayOct 15 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 15 13:42
techrights-news10 Things To Do After Installing #Ubuntu 21.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31385Oct 15 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 “Impish Indri” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesOct 15 13:45
techrights-news#Microsoft has infiltrated think tanks about #ransomware , so now instead of tackling the #security breaches themselves (which can lead to sabotage or worse) they treat it like a financial transaction issue. http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/Oct 15 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force” | TechrightsOct 15 13:47
techrights-newsNew #PureBoot Feature: Scanning Root for Tampering ⚓ https://puri.sm/posts/new-pureboot-feature-scanning-root-for-tampering/ ䷉ #purism #gnu #linuxOct 15 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | New PureBoot Feature: Scanning Root for Tampering – PurismOct 15 13:48
techrights-newsPrinted Piano Mechanism Sure Is Grand | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/printed-piano-mechanism-sure-is-grand/ ䷉ #hackadayOct 15 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Printed Piano Mechanism Sure Is Grand | HackadayOct 15 13:50
techrights-newsWe need to talk about digital ID: why the World Bank must recognize the harm in #Afghanistan and beyond - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/digital-id-world-bank/ ䷉ #accessnowOct 15 13:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | We need to talk about digital ID: why the World Bank must recognize the harm in Afghanistan and beyond - Access NowOct 15 13:51
techrights-news"HIBP's maintainer also claimed that some of the data included poorly encrypted passwords: one he highlighted was an unsalted SHA-1 hash which resolved to the password "test123"." https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/thingiverse_data_breach_228k_email_addresses/Oct 15 13:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Thingiverse suffers breach of 228,000 email addresses • The RegisterOct 15 13:52
techrights-news#Kubernetes becoming increasingly just an #openwashing shim for #proprietarySoftware with back doors https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/anthos_adds_virtual_machine_support/Oct 15 13:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google adds virtual machine support to Anthos • The RegisterOct 15 13:54
psydruidhttps://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110Oct 15 13:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global StatsOct 15 13:55
techrights-news#dell is still beholden to #microsoft but it does not want to leave #gnu #linux 'money on the table' https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Dell-Inspiron-15-3501-supports-Linux.573012.0.htmlOct 15 13:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Dell Inspiron 15 3501 supports Linux - NotebookCheck.net ReviewsOct 15 13:55
psydruidif this happened in slightly more than a decade, what will it be in the second decade?Oct 15 13:56
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft Fscks LinuxOct 15 13:56
schestowitz-TRwith NTFSOct 15 13:56
schestowitz-TRask SJVNOct 15 13:56
psydruidjust invent more categories where Vista has no role to play and see its market share go to zeroOct 15 13:56
psydruidyes, that's why they are so madly in love with LinuxOct 15 13:56
schestowitz-TR[07:13] [Notice] -altlink_6b2 to #techrights- 📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/how_ntfs_finally_made_it/Oct 15 13:57
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Please read IRC | http://about-altlink.go.crimeflare.eu.orgOct 15 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | How Windows NTFS finally made it into Linux • The RegisterOct 15 13:57
schestowitz-TRrebrand WindowsOct 15 13:57
psydruidand with the x86 desktop slowly evaporating they have nowhere to goOct 15 13:57
schestowitz-TRthen claim to shareholders, this new thing ig GROWINGOct 15 13:58
schestowitz-TR40,000% growth in one yearOct 15 13:58
schestowitz-TRhttps://lwn.net/Articles/871989/Oct 15 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rolling stable kernels [LWN.net]Oct 15 13:59
psydruidthis is like Enron 2.0Oct 15 13:59
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft LevinOct 15 13:59
schestowitz-TRthey already have the finger in this pieOct 15 13:59
schestowitz-TRin a position one level below greg KHOct 15 13:59
schestowitz-TRwhen they sent Torvalds to therapist with forced apololgyOct 15 13:59
schestowitz-TRGreg did not defend TorvaldsOct 15 14:00
schestowitz-TRhe's also responsible for putting this Microsoft in his deputy slotOct 15 14:00
schestowitz-TRso Linux is at risk nowOct 15 14:00
psydruidGreg wants to be a MicrosoftieOct 15 14:00
MinceRat least in spirit, gkh is already a microsoftieOct 15 14:00
schestowitz-TRhe put a Microsofters as his deputyOct 15 14:00
psydruidGreg De IcazaOct 15 14:00
MinceRhe's a staunch believer in "Throw It In The Kernel"Oct 15 14:01
schestowitz-TRkdbusOct 15 14:01
activelowMinceR: any quote?Oct 15 14:01
MinceRactivelow: he pushed for kdbus and he let ksmbd (or whatever) inOct 15 14:01
activelowis it optional? if i can deactivate and remove it then it is less of an issue. so far kernel devs seemed to have been cautious with strong dependencies (except gcc as one major)Oct 15 14:02
MinceRmaybe for nowOct 15 14:03
psydruidMicrosux LinuxOct 15 14:03
MinceRbut why should users and admins be responsible for doing QA on the kernel they run?Oct 15 14:03
MinceRthey were also rather careless with the whole udev thingOct 15 14:04
activelownonetheless, i have no explanation yet why a static kernel image with modules included for arm64 reached the size of 13MiB, and i have removed alot of stuff from kconfig, most device drivers,Oct 15 14:04
psydruidI have no explanation for it eitherOct 15 14:07
psydruidI just know that back in 2009 I was almost able to build a kernel that was 1 MB for my Sparcstation 5Oct 15 14:08
activelowstatic kernel with modules included?Oct 15 14:08
psydruidmostly static, yesOct 15 14:09
psydruid2.6.xxOct 15 14:09
psydruidI think I didn't even have modules builtOct 15 14:10
psydruidI think it ended up being 1.1 MB, which was too largeOct 15 14:10
activelowgood point, modules for what...Oct 15 14:10
psydruidand then I realised that machine probably won't be able to run Linux after 2.6.10Oct 15 14:11
psydruidI knew it was constrained hardware already by then, but it was my first experience with the limitations of LInux itselfOct 15 14:12
activelowi'll verify downgrading to 32bit soon (if possible), should make a comparison easierOct 15 14:16
activelowpsydruid: by coincidence, are u64 long integer available with arm32? i know arm32 is limited to, well, 32bit address space, but i need u64 long integer.Oct 15 14:16
psydruidactivelow, I don't think so, but I haven't used arm32 that muchOct 15 14:17
activelowi know, 32bit DEC VAX could process 128bit data types even, general purposeOct 15 14:17
psydruidfrom a few quick searches arm32 doesn't seem to have u64 long integerOct 15 14:19
schestowitz-TRjust got major doc on epoOct 15 14:19
psydruidyou are also constrained to 16 registersOct 15 14:19
*schestowitz-TR will publish asapOct 15 14:20
psydruidbut how can OpenBSD then have a 64-bit time_t?Oct 15 14:25
psydruidI should look into this in a few weeksOct 15 14:25
psydruidon 32-bit hardware, I meanOct 15 14:27
activelowan ALU with small registers can concatenate those, to process any general purpose integer operation (add, mul, div, shift, xor etc)Oct 15 14:32
activelowZ80 already, was known to have 4bit ALU, and processed 8bit (or larger), with 16bit address bus, and 8bit data busOct 15 14:32
activelowsome recent gcc extension introduced support for 128bit general purpose processing, on 64bit intel/amd systemsOct 15 14:33
activelowneed to check, the east-german Z80 clone was known to have a bug, with the carry-flag, which must be set correctly when bigger data types are requiredOct 15 14:40
activelowi think, 128 data types didn't arrive (only some weird SIMD), because this was required for some crypto (fast and efficient), to xor-shift/rotate on 128bit, meaning de/ciphering operating bitwise, not character-wise/permutationOct 15 14:42
techrights-newsWith EPO #StrikeRegulations Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, #EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside 'Temps' or Casual Workers http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/Oct 15 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With EPO ‘Strike Regulations’ Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside ‘Temps’ or Casual Workers | TechrightsOct 15 14:44
schestowitz-TR^^Oct 15 14:45
schestowitz-TRdeutschlandOct 15 14:45
schestowitz-TRanti-workersOct 15 14:45
activelowschestowitz-TR: i do not know strike-regulation and laws in detail, i do know however an employer can sue those who strike, and a court can rule a strike being ilegitimateOct 15 14:47
activelowin germanyOct 15 14:47
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techrights-news#PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156817 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC | Tux MachinesOct 15 15:06
psydruidPinephone Pro, that is starting to look betterOct 15 15:13
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gustafsame in SwedenOct 15 15:17
gustaf"wild strike" Oct 15 15:17
gustafthe union should let people know a strike is comingOct 15 15:17
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▃▅▄▆▅▅▂▃▆▆▄▅▄▂▃▄▄▃▆▄▂▇▅▄▄▂▃▃▃▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 19.45 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▇█▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 35.06▕ swarm size (avg): 260.42  ⟲Oct 15 15:19
psydruidhttps://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-binge-cheap-food-is-over-biggest-chicken-producer-says-2021-10-14/Oct 15 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Britain's chicken king says the 20-year binge on cheap food is over | ReutersOct 15 15:24
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psydruidmoar automationOct 15 15:31
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psydruidbut a steep price for the Pinephone ProOct 15 15:49
psydruidit's moving in the direction of Macbook ProOct 15 15:49
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activelowincluding tax and shipping ~500Euros?Oct 15 15:56
activelownot specific to pinephone, i refrain from any such deviceOct 15 15:57
activelowand the development model behind, isn't particularly practical for meOct 15 15:58
activelowfor example, armbian maintains dozens of patches, and these didn't reach mainlineOct 15 15:58
activelowso, when thinking to git clone any kernel/uboot with rockchip/pinephone support present, chances are something is missingOct 15 16:00
activelowno thanks. and it's not as if rockchip didn't sell millions of devices, based on their platform (tv boxes, SBC)Oct 15 16:01
activelowin the end, download an android image? no thanks. it's not the same as an Apple Mac product, or a windows laptop, however, no thanks.Oct 15 16:01
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techrights-news#nhs under #borisnaro in 2021: you phone them on a Friday for urgent appointment. They tell you to phone again on Monday; nothing done, nothing booked. #tories squash our health services while charging us more. Death cult. Remember our head of state said "let the bodies pile up high" (and he is still in power).Oct 15 16:46
techrights-newsThe wealthy and the greedy keep getting wealthier and greedier (and they use this money to effectively buy our political system) https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-binge-cheap-food-is-over-biggest-chicken-producer-says-2021-10-14/Oct 15 16:49
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: interestingOct 15 16:50
schestowitz-TRbillBC reported something similarOct 15 16:50
schestowitz-TRif people here shop smarter, they can get heavily discounted foodOct 15 16:50
schestowitz-TRprovided not everyone is doing itOct 15 16:50
schestowitz-TRit's a zero-game with almost-expired itemsOct 15 16:51
schestowitz-TRrianne just hunted down very heavily discounted stuff, some 90% off, most 3/4 offOct 15 16:51
activelownext interview: "50% electricity is renewable... need more investments"; lies lies liesOct 15 16:53
activelow"electricity subsidies fund renewable energy installations", lie.Oct 15 16:54
activelowrenewable market share is practically this: nothing, the installations do not supply energy, and subsidies and taxes for energy since year 2000 summed up to ~1.5bill (us trillion) in germanyOct 15 16:55
schestowitz-TR"renewable"Oct 15 16:56
schestowitz-TRlet's make energy out of thin airOct 15 16:56
schestowitz-TRlike we do with moneyOct 15 16:56
schestowitz-TRthe public pays, e.g. through inflationOct 15 16:57
activelow"social ecological"Oct 15 16:57
schestowitz-TRthen we give fake (non)'Nobel' prizes to bankstersOct 15 16:57
schestowitz-TRwho pretend increase in minimum wage is like a gift from themOct 15 16:57
schestowitz-TRwhen in fact salaries aren't increasing but decreasing, compared to inflation ratesOct 15 16:58
activelowsocial democrats demand 12Euros minimum wage now (~15USD)Oct 15 16:58
gustafactivelow: https://lobste.rs/s/wbuvji/100_mhz_6502#c_gmezdeOct 15 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | The 100 MHz 6502 | LobstersOct 15 16:58
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I've even seen "Bill Gates wants to pull CO2 out of the air to make gasoline!".Oct 15 17:18
schestowitz-TRgnOct 15 17:18
DaemonFCIf it was cheap or easy to do that, they'd just do that instead of all of this electric car stuff.Oct 15 17:18
schestowitz-TRdoes bill do cow farts?Oct 15 17:18
DaemonFCThere's a lot of "legacy" vehicles on the road that only run on gasoline.Oct 15 17:18
schestowitz-TRbuy new ones!Oct 15 17:18
schestowitz-TRmore manufacturing!Oct 15 17:18
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DaemonFCWith what money?Oct 15 17:19
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: you know what bill might sayOct 15 17:19
DaemonFCI assume Uncle Bill has a plan to pay workers to buy these things.Oct 15 17:19
schestowitz-TRonce then turn 10 they're of no use anymorewOct 15 17:19
DaemonFCMine's nearly 20 years old.Oct 15 17:19
schestowitz-TRyou missed the jokeOct 15 17:20
DaemonFCEven with repair bills, it's cheaper than buying something new.Oct 15 17:20
DaemonFCNo, I didn't.Oct 15 17:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe if bill's parents were still alive, he'd move to arizonaOct 15 17:20
schestowitz-TRand say he needs to look after themOct 15 17:20
schestowitz-TRhis dad has been dead for about a yearOct 15 17:21
DaemonFCI call him Uncle Bill as in "your creepy uncle", you know, because the media puff pieces try to turn him into a kind man with a reading list.Oct 15 17:21
DaemonFCHe wears turtle neck sweaters and glasses, so can't be that bad.Oct 15 17:21
schestowitz-TRhas naked pool parties at homerOct 15 17:21
schestowitz-TR*homeOct 15 17:21
schestowitz-TRwhile calling unmasked people "nudists"Oct 15 17:21
schestowitz-TRI'm sure he wears a mask in his mansionOct 15 17:21
schestowitz-TRwith all those butlersOct 15 17:22
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Did you see my article on Vivaldi trying to pass off their Adblock code as their own and potentially being a GPL violation, and taking source code from both of the major ad blockers for whatever reason?Oct 15 17:22
schestowitzreference: http://techrights.org/2021/05/11/bill-gates-exposed-2021/Oct 15 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Exposed | TechrightsOct 15 17:23
DaemonFCThey know most people who read their blog will never go look at their code.Oct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: I put that in tuxmachinesOct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRsoon techrightsOct 15 17:23
DaemonFCThe code dumps are legally required, but most of it isn't Vivaldi's code.Oct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRyes, I confronted them about itOct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRyears agoOct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRwhen they were still openwashing itOct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRand I said, NO! it's PROPRIETARYOct 15 17:23
schestowitz-TRthen they gave up pretendingOct 15 17:24
DaemonFCI'm going to look at Vivaldi 4.3's code tree and see if they've actually released their email client or not.Oct 15 17:24
schestowitz-TRgreat ideaOct 15 17:24
schestowitz-TRwrite notesOct 15 17:24
schestowitz-TRtake screenshotsOct 15 17:24
schestowitz-TRit's a subject the media never covered afaikOct 15 17:24
DaemonFCExposing their ad blocker was easier.Oct 15 17:29
DaemonFCSomeone uploaded the dumped source tarball into GitHub and I only had to figure out the tree structure.Oct 15 17:29
DaemonFCBut it wasn't their code and frankly it looked like they could have done a cleaner job.Oct 15 17:29
techrights-news[Meme] #GitHub Isn't Free Hosting, It's All About Control by #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/github-control-by-microsoft/ #deletegithub #proprietarySoftwareOct 15 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] GitHub Isn’t Free Hosting, It’s All About Control by Microsoft | TechrightsOct 15 17:29
DaemonFCAlso, since both are under the GPLv3 and they are "conveying" it as a complete work, I believe they are violating that license.Oct 15 17:30
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: lol, blobs in proprietary microsoftOct 15 17:30
schestowitz-TRvivaldi just wants to say, look, we have repoOct 15 17:30
schestowitz-TRsomething "open"Oct 15 17:30
schestowitz-TRgithub itself is proprietaryOct 15 17:30
DaemonFCThere's never been any sort of linking exception in either of the extensions because they were intended to be installed into a browser by the user.Oct 15 17:30
schestowitz-TRcontrolled by a GPL violation giantOct 15 17:30
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Should I tap Raymond Hill and Wladimir Palant and see if they want to have a look?Oct 15 17:31
DaemonFCI might post on Reddit asking for clarification by the ubo developers.Oct 15 17:32
schestowitz-TRPalant = MozOct 15 17:33
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/q8s73p/vivaldi_adblock_a_gplv3_violation_of_ublockorigin/Oct 15 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Vivaldi Adblock a GPLv3 violation of ublock-origin? : uBlockOriginOct 15 17:36
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, It would be hilarious if someone enforces their copyright against Vivaldi and either sues them or invokes the DMCA.Oct 15 17:37
DaemonFCOr whatever the equivalent of that is in the EU.Oct 15 17:38
DaemonFCThe GPLv3 doesn't say you can "convey" something like this. The only way to make it legal would be to make all of Vivaldi GPLv3 or at least the reast of the source something compatible.Oct 15 17:39
DaemonFC*restOct 15 17:39
DaemonFCSince they don't even own the copyright on most of it, that would be a problem.Oct 15 17:39
DaemonFCDoes the LGPLv2.1 part of Webcore (from KHTML) have the + option that lets you distribute it under the full GPLv2 or later?Oct 15 17:40
DaemonFCIf not and you're linking into the browser's rendering engine that's a problem.Oct 15 17:41
DaemonFCIf authors would release their code under the default license from the FSF instead of stripping the "+" language out of it, then distributing older code under LGPLv2 wouldn't be an issue. You just clarify you're asserting your right to "upgrade" to the full GPL 2 (or later) and as part of your conveyed work, it's either GPLv2 or 3.Oct 15 17:42
DaemonFCOr to the LGPLv3, which is also compatible with the GPLv3.Oct 15 17:43
DaemonFCLGPLv2 ONLY is never compatible with LGPLv3, Apache 2, or GPLv3. And it never can be.Oct 15 17:43
DaemonFCSo what these authors did with their anti-GNU paranoia (which Jamie Zawinski encouraged them to do a long time ago by saying never trust Richard Stallman) is make a large swath of Free Software unwieldy at best and unusable at worst.Oct 15 17:44
DaemonFCIf you want to pair it with something under a later version.Oct 15 17:44
DaemonFCYou end up with an incompatible mismatch and have to resort to torturing the definition of "convey" and "linked" like proprietary software developers.Oct 15 17:45
schestowitz-TRcheck who their legal staff areOct 15 17:47
schestowitz-TRand maybe contact themOct 15 17:47
schestowitz-TRthen check if what they tell you is trueOct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRif not, we have a problemOct 15 17:48
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, They quietly changed my post on Reddit.Oct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRManjaro spins think Vivaldi is OK Oct 15 17:48
DaemonFCNow it says only me and the mods of /r/uBlockOrigin can see it.Oct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRI think it's sillyOct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRFirefox sucksOct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRbut Vivaldi is likely worseOct 15 17:48
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: reddit is a censorship machineOct 15 17:49
schestowitz-TRit's what it doesOct 15 17:49
schestowitz-TRyou are not a reddit clientOct 15 17:49
schestowitz-TRyou don't get to decide what shows upOct 15 17:49
schestowitz-TRcuration as a business modelOct 15 17:49
activelowside-note: gentoo defines LICENSE="Vivaldi", not GPL, and requires explicite activation since this license isn't considered @FREEOct 15 17:50
activelowif this isn't related to the adblock addon only, vivaldi itself isn't freeOct 15 17:52
schestowitz-TRsystemVivalDOct 15 17:52
schestowitz-TR"we follow "open source" principles..."Oct 15 17:52
schestowitz-TR"there's some code"Oct 15 17:52
schestowitz-TR"all the coder are from the same cabal"Oct 15 17:52
schestowitz-TR"but there's some source code loser can play with"Oct 15 17:53
schestowitz-TRand then open "Issues" in proprietaryshithubOct 15 17:53
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schestowitz-TR"we might even fix some'Oct 15 17:53
techrights-news#Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename is a Jolly Good Choice • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156818 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename is a Jolly Good Choice | Tux MachinesOct 15 17:54
activelowa proprietary software system is compliant with law, labeling proprietary software as "free" is fraud, fraud is illegal, subject to penal code evenOct 15 17:54
schestowitz-TR penal code is for poor peopleOct 15 17:55
schestowitz-TRrich people need to do something exceptionally badOct 15 17:55
schestowitz-TRlike raping 10 womenOct 15 17:55
schestowitz-TRif it's a setting present, that too can be brushed asideOct 15 17:55
schestowitz-TRbecause "ELECTION FRAUD" and "DEEP STATE"Oct 15 17:56
techrights-newsMust Read: $399 PinePhone Pro Announced with More Power, 4GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154536#comment-31386Oct 15 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PineNote is a $399 E-ink Tablet that Runs Linux | Tux MachinesOct 15 17:58
techrights-newsEffective Tips To Improve Linux Environment • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156819 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Effective Tips To Improve Linux Environment | Tux MachinesOct 15 17:59
techrights-news#Kdenlive on TV for a main national Italian broadcaster • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156820 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive on TV for a main national Italian broadcaster | Tux MachinesOct 15 17:59
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techrights-newsUbuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Released with Flavors Download Links, Mirrors and Torrents http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31387Oct 15 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 “Impish Indri” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesOct 15 18:02
techrights-news#LibreOffice 7.2.2 for #Slackware-current is available • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156821 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.2.2 for Slackware-current is available | Tux MachinesOct 15 18:04
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/somethings-rotten-in-the-state-of-denmark-or-rather-norway-my-post-about-whether-vivaldi-is-a-gpl-violation-was-quietly-knifed-by-the-mods-of-r-ublockorigin-bonus-dont-strip-the-gpl-of-or/Oct 15 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Something’s rotten in the state of Denmark (or rather, Norway). My post about whether Vivaldi is a GPL violation was quietly knifed by the mods of /r/uBlockOrigin. Bonus: Don’t strip the GPL of “or any later version”. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 18:09
schestowitz-TRinterestingOct 15 18:13
schestowitz-TRI will read it all laterOct 15 18:14
schestowitz-TRvery long headlineOct 15 18:14
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156822 #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 18:15
DaemonFCIt's a long headline.Oct 15 18:16
DaemonFCI liked the "something rotten" part.Oct 15 18:16
DaemonFCBecause Denmark is relatively close to Norway, where the GPL violations are going on.Oct 15 18:17
schestowitz-TR"it's not illegal if you don't get caught.."Oct 15 18:18
DaemonFCWell, it's pretty stupid to do it in a way where you most certainly will get caught.Oct 15 18:18
schestowitz-TRwe'll do a series on copolit, the gpl violations factoryOct 15 18:19
DaemonFCAnd then toss the evidence into a tarball on your own website.Oct 15 18:19
techrights-news3 ways to manage RPG character sheets with open source • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156824 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3 ways to manage RPG character sheets with open source | Tux MachinesOct 15 18:22
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/q8hsif/debian_and_lenovo_preinstalls/Oct 15 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian and lenovo preinstalls? : debianOct 15 18:27
DaemonFCBaronHKOct 15 18:27
DaemonFC·Oct 15 18:27
DaemonFCjust nowOct 15 18:27
DaemonFCIt should be a Debian pre-install over anything from Rat Crap, but at least if it's not Windows, it'll probably be easier to switch it over to Debian without Windows kicking and screaming on the way out as you switch over the settings Windows uses (Fast Boot) to hide its horrendously slow bootup time, which confuses the Intel WiFI chipset when you boot up into Debian, as well as turning off VMD and Secure Boot, which trips up Bitlocker fake Oct 15 18:27
DaemonFCsecurity on the way out and makes you select something like "restore Bitlocker some other way", holding in the power key, and then pressing in the NOVO button with the end of a floss pick.Oct 15 18:27
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DaemonFCWindows _really_ doesn't want to go, and Lenovo helps them with all of these ridiculous uEFI settings. It's hilarious how it can't keep itself running until you want it to leave.Oct 15 18:27
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DaemonFCThen it becomes the vampire squid that just won't let go of your laptop.Oct 15 18:28
techrights-news4 more articles and a video about #PinePhone Pro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156817#comment-31391 #gnu #linuxOct 15 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC | Tux MachinesOct 15 18:29
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/comments/q8nn4r/got_another_copyright_notice_from_my_isp/Oct 15 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Got another copyright notice from my ISP. : nordvpnOct 15 18:30
DaemonFCBaronHKOct 15 18:30
DaemonFC·Oct 15 18:30
DaemonFCjust nowOct 15 18:30
DaemonFCTo be fair, their Windows software is hell on Earth. Half of that is because it's spammy, and the other half is because Windows networking sucks.Oct 15 18:30
DaemonFCIt's a lot easier to misconfigure Windows and end up with a VPN leak than it is when you're using their GNU/Linux client.Oct 15 18:30
DaemonFCBaronHKOct 15 18:34
DaemonFC·Oct 15 18:34
DaemonFCjust nowOct 15 18:34
DaemonFCBefore I got rid of Windows entirely, I was looking at the Split Tunneling "feature" and said "Oh sure, I'll bet that works great on the Windows network stack.".Oct 15 18:34
DaemonFCIf anyone hasn't read the Wireguard mailing lists about Jason Donenfield reverse engineering Windows networking, it's worth it, even if you have no idea how to read code, because it's immediately clear that it's horribly broken, Microsoft has no idea how to solve a problem, and then they patent some kind of mess that doesn't even work reliably and leaves things like the Windows Firewall susceptible to downgrade attacks.Oct 15 18:34
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, ^Oct 15 18:34
DaemonFCThat's what Microsoft is at the end of the day, an unscrupulous law firm with really bad software.Oct 15 18:36
schestowitz-TRyou are not the firstto say thisOct 15 18:37
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, It's clear that Mozilla has become malware, and is flying apart at the seams.Oct 15 18:37
schestowitz-TRre msftOct 15 18:37
schestowitz-TRmoz is agroup of loser nowOct 15 18:38
DaemonFCDebian 11 will end up with Firefox ESR 91 at some point, which doesn't have the "Suggest" keyloagger, and it'll probably be safe from that for a couple of years as such.Oct 15 18:38
schestowitz-TRthe managementOct 15 18:38
DaemonFCBut long term, Firefox is dead.Oct 15 18:38
schestowitz-TRlf sameOct 15 18:38
schestowitz-TRthyet lost the communityOct 15 18:38
schestowitz-TRand geeksfleeOct 15 18:38
DaemonFC*keyloggerOct 15 18:38
schestowitz-TR2014 ffhad msft keyloggerOct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRi was the only person to bemoan itOct 15 18:39
DaemonFCWindows is such a pile of shit that Mozilla Updater is effectively a RAT that they installed years ago.Oct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRtyping one-gandedOct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRhandedOct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRcoffee breakOct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRhad headacheOct 15 18:39
schestowitz-TRmaybe lack of sleepOct 15 18:40
schestowitz-TRtoo much workOct 15 18:40
schestowitz-TRwill do daily links nextOct 15 18:40
DaemonFCI edited that article about Vivaldi and Reddit.Oct 15 18:41
DaemonFCI added: "It's really hard to write an ad blocker that works right, much less an entire web browser. Vivaldi admits that their browser engine is Chromium, but they've effectively plagiarized the ad blocker as their own by stamping a "Vivaldi Adblock" brand on it."Oct 15 18:41
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I don't understand this.Oct 15 18:43
DaemonFCReddit says my post can only be seen by me and the mods.Oct 15 18:43
schestowitz-TRyeahOct 15 18:43
DaemonFCBut it also says 471 views and 10 likes.Oct 15 18:43
schestowitz-TRshadowbanOct 15 18:43
DaemonFCSo.....hmmmOct 15 18:43
DaemonFCWhat gives?Oct 15 18:43
DaemonFCThere's obviously not ~500 mods there.Oct 15 18:43
schestowitz-TRredditOct 15 18:44
schestowitz-TRwaste of timeOct 15 18:44
DaemonFCPretty much.Oct 15 18:45
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I've been getting some hits from the Linux Mint forum about Firefox being malware with a keylogger.Oct 15 18:45
DaemonFCMost of the chatter on the forum posts have been "I'm not in the US, so doesn't affect me." yet.Oct 15 18:45
DaemonFCYet.Oct 15 18:45
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: censorship is hotOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRpeople moan to me about youOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TReven this morningOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRyou know who I meanOct 15 18:46
DaemonFCWhat do they say?Oct 15 18:46
DaemonFCOh, Garrett?Oct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRwe live in a thin-skinned society nowOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRcomedians cannot make any jokeOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRit's sexist or racistOct 15 18:46
schestowitz-TRor talking about biologyOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRthat hurts some people's feelingsOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TReven if the comedian is blackOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRdoesn't matterOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRbe Greg KHOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRsay nothingOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRonly, yes sirOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRtake down the pantsOct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRand say, "yes, Microsoft, that was good!"Oct 15 18:47
schestowitz-TRThat's a good boyOct 15 18:47
DaemonFChttps://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=359227&p=2081259Oct 15 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.linuxmint.com | Firefox: Disturbing News - Linux Mint ForumsOct 15 18:48
schestowitz-TRbtw, iirc, Grfeg is in the CoC committeeOct 15 18:48
schestowitz-TRalong with the likes of IntelOct 15 18:48
DaemonFCOh, Chris Rock is one of my favorites.Oct 15 18:48
DaemonFCHe's great. He's black too, you know.Oct 15 18:48
AdmFubarhttps://www.itpro.co.uk/security/privacy/361191/is-australia-becoming-a-surveillance-stateOct 15 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Is Australia becoming a surveillance state? | IT PROOct 15 18:48
schestowitz-TRyes, he's funnyOct 15 18:48
DaemonFCMy favorite is how not to act when you get pulled over by the cops.Oct 15 18:48
schestowitz-TRhe voice adds to itOct 15 18:48
schestowitz-TR*hisOct 15 18:48
DaemonFCHere in Waukegan we had MOAR RIOTS because the cops shot some black guy. You know, just totally minding his own business, with the car in reverse trying to sandwich the cop that shot him between his rear bumper and the front of the squad car.Oct 15 18:49
DaemonFCDindu Nuffin!Oct 15 18:49
DaemonFCHe was a good boy!Oct 15 18:49
schestowitz-TRcops are low levelOct 15 18:49
schestowitz-TRlow level troopers for the richOct 15 18:49
schestowitz-TRthey're typically also quite racistOct 15 18:50
DaemonFCHave you tried NOT running them over?Oct 15 18:50
*DaemonFC sips his coffeeOct 15 18:50
schestowitz-TRbecause they have to compete for scraps at the bottomOct 15 18:50
schestowitz-TRthe people they fight with are also poorOct 15 18:50
schestowitz-TRit's not a pretty pictureOct 15 18:50
DaemonFCPretty much, I mean just take the fucking ticket though.Oct 15 18:50
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile the rich amass all the ac apitalOct 15 18:50
schestowitz-TRand live in gated communities with no shootingsOct 15 18:50
DaemonFCThe Chris Rock video showed some black guy mouthing off to the cops and then going down on the pavement with a gun at the back of his head. Caption: "NOT A TICKET!"Oct 15 18:50
DaemonFC:)Oct 15 18:51
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Oct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRanyway, subject changeOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRI'm doing daily linksOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRstick to techOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRyou're upsetting some peopleOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRand it's not necessaryOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRsometimes you upset me tooOct 15 18:51
schestowitz-TRbut I am thick-skinned compared to manyOct 15 18:52
DaemonFCMy point is sure they're awful, but take the goddamned ticket and tell them have a nice day. They know what you mean by that. They leave, you go to court and fight it.Oct 15 18:52
DaemonFCAt least you're alive.Oct 15 18:52
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/memes-of-the-week-8-27-21-10.jpgOct 15 18:52
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DaemonFCHave a nice day! After they write you a ticket means "Go die in a fire!" without having to antagonize them outright.Oct 15 18:53
DaemonFCThey're worse than the "street gangs" sometimes. They're heavily armed (with military surplus), they do whatever they want, and they rarely get charged with a crime unless someone manages to film them without getting shot or beaten up and having their phone confiscated and destroyed for doing that.Oct 15 18:54
DaemonFCWe all know that.Oct 15 18:54
schestowitz-TRback on topic nowOct 15 18:55
schestowitz-TRI could tell you stories but it would be off-topicOct 15 18:55
schestowitz-TRshort version: I once argued viciously with cops over the phone and a nearby security guard signalled to me, stop,stop... because he knows you're never supposed to confront themOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRhe said they can accuse me of libel or somethingaOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRand cops would be presumed to be telling the truthOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRanyway, back to techOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRsome pinephone news todayOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRnew codename for ubuntuOct 15 18:56
schestowitz-TRI am uploadfing a video over an hour longOct 15 18:56
DaemonFCBaronHKOct 15 19:07
DaemonFCOPOct 15 19:07
DaemonFC·Oct 15 19:07
DaemonFCjust nowOct 15 19:07
DaemonFCWell, the question has come up before in the context of the Linux kernel.Oct 15 19:07
DaemonFCTheir position is that the kernel exports "symbols" to drivers that are flagged "GPL-only" and ones that anyone can use. The programmers and lawyers decide which parts they feel are something that is "internal" and should be off limits to anything not under a compatible license.Oct 15 19:07
DaemonFCUnless Vivaldi has changed something dramatically in how the ublock-origin or Adblock Plus code works, I believe it should be using WebRequest API.Oct 15 19:07
DaemonFCGoogle's Manifest v3 didn't go over so well because it wanted to set WebRequest API such that extensions can't modify network requests and have to use a "DeclarativeNetRequest" API that has essentially been neutered to set an upper limit on the rules.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCHowever, since these extensions can use tons and tons of rules, and Vivaldi Adblock reports success loading well over 150,000 rules, I think it's probably still WebRequest.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCVivaldi said they were not happy with Google's Manifest v3 and were moving ad blocking to an internal feature to safeguard against that. Obviously, if they don't like the limitations on WebRequest, if Google decides to go through with them, Vivaldi can patch them back out and fork ad blocking to keep letting the user load as many rule sets as they like.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCOf course, there are other concerns, like Vivaldi doesn't have a large base of users, and at this point it would basically be them and possibly Firefox not going along with the neutered WebRequest, and are people going to maintain lists for browsers that don't neuter the API?Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCAnyway, my point, I suppose, is if Vivaldi is distributing them as if it were two different programs and if they are just using WebRequest, that _might_ be okay as long as they release their modifications to the ad blocker code under the GPLv3.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCHowever, if they move it, (or already have moved it) to use a special internal API (like Brave-Adblock does, which is okay because Brave wrote their own and licensed it under MPLv2) in the browser that is not generally available to other extensions (because it performs better or something), that's really where *I* would think they'd be in non-compliance.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCBut I'm not a lawyer.Oct 15 19:08
DaemonFCI'm just comparing this to the "Linux" model of "If it's available to everyone, go for it.".Oct 15 19:08
MinceRlol @ not a ticketOct 15 19:09
techrights-newsLinks 15/10/2021: #Pine64 New PinePhone Pro and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/ubuntu-22-04-lts-codename/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/ubuntu-22-04-lts-codename/Oct 15 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/10/2021: Pine64′s New PinePhone Pro and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename | TechrightsOct 15 19:10
techrights-news#Security Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156825 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 19:10
techrights-newsThis service is maintained by the Federated Networks AssociationOct 15 19:11
schestowitz#IBM  /#RedHat Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156826 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 19:11
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156827 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 19:11
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156828 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 19:11
DaemonFCSniffing their description of "Vivaldi Adblock", however, it seems they imply their built-in functionality performs better than an extension. If it uses WebRequest, then how does it perform better?Oct 15 19:12
DaemonFCSee: https://vivaldi.com/features/ad-blocker/Oct 15 19:12
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: vivaldi.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vivaldi.com/features/ad-blocker/Oct 15 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vivaldi.com | Ad Blocker – fast and free, no extensions neededOct 15 19:12
DaemonFCI added that just now.Oct 15 19:12
DaemonFCAlso: "Note: They also border on slandering uBlock-Origin just because it's an extension that they don't bundle. Lots of extensions are shady, even if they end up in Google's store, but Raymond Hill seems trustworthy and if you make sure to only install open source extensions, you're probably okay.Oct 15 19:15
DaemonFC"Oct 15 19:15
techrights-news#Today in #Techrights • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156829 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 15 19:16
DaemonFC"In fact, one of the biggest downsides to Chromium browsers getting extensions from Google's store vs. Firefox add-ons, is that Firefox lists what license you're agreeing to, and Google doesn't."Oct 15 19:16
DaemonFC"Oh, you paid us five bucks? Yeah, sure do whatever! Toss your Chinese malware in there!" -GoogleOct 15 19:17
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2021/08/27/brand-new-sentence-08-27-21/Oct 15 19:21
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/08/27/brand-new-sentence-08-27-21/Oct 15 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | Funny Sentences That Have Never Been Said In Human HistoryOct 15 19:21
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/more-discussion-of-vivaldi-adblock-from-my-reddit-account-bonus-browser-extension-store-policies/Oct 15 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | More discussion of Vivaldi Adblock from my Reddit account. Bonus: Browser extension store policies. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 19:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I've gone to the people who own the copyrights to the XFS file system. They didn't do anything about a violation I brought them years back.Oct 15 19:25
DaemonFCIt was when SGI still existed.Oct 15 19:25
DaemonFCSome Windows developer lifted a snapshot of the code out of a Linux kernel and made a Windows Installable File System out of it, and then didn't release all of the source code used, which is impossible because you need the IFS porting kit from Microsoft, and you don't own that, and it isn't open source.Oct 15 19:26
DaemonFCI sent it to SGI's legal department and they never acted on it.Oct 15 19:27
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: there are many vivaldi postsOct 15 19:27
schestowitz-TRsome are shortOct 15 19:27
DaemonFCI doubt the Windows driver would even work anymore, and even if it did, why in God's name would you trust an XFS partition to it?Oct 15 19:27
schestowitz-TRaggregating them in one later on can be handyOct 15 19:27
DaemonFCYes, if you want to put them all in one, that might work better.Oct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRthat's the nature of bloggingOct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRmany short and disparate piecesOct 15 19:28
DaemonFCBlogging about developments in an investigation is.....yeah, like that.Oct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRthat's why we connect them in wiki clustersOct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRbut you need to first finish them and decide the orderOct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRnot always posting time chronologicallyOct 15 19:28
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: on github I have 15-20 partsOct 15 19:29
schestowitz-TRI still don't know about order of issuesOct 15 19:29
schestowitz-TRbut none is time-sensitiveOct 15 19:29
schestowitz-TRso monday it might start one part per weekOct 15 19:29
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/til-duckduckgos-headquarters-is-smaller-than-my-apartment/Oct 15 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | TIL: DuckDuckGo’s headquarters is smaller than my apartment. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 19:48
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, When they were new, they had a XMPP server at DDG.Oct 15 19:48
DaemonFCI ended up using it, and then they got rid of it.Oct 15 19:48
techrights-news[Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO ‘Mafia’ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/no-upca/ #upca #upc #teamupc #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatentOct 15 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO ‘Mafia’ | TechrightsOct 15 19:51
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: DDG is a scamOct 15 19:52
schestowitz-TRhighly advertised thoughOct 15 19:52
schestowitz-TRthey pretend to be some small startupOct 15 19:52
DaemonFCVery obvious, except superficially maybe.Oct 15 19:52
schestowitz-TRshoving lots of ads into technical forumsOct 15 19:53
DaemonFCBing (Microsoft)Oct 15 19:54
schestowitz-TRI vomit a litle when I see theseOct 15 19:54
DaemonFCGoogle (the Great Satan)Oct 15 19:54
DaemonFCDDG (Bing)Oct 15 19:54
schestowitz-TRthey pretend it's some forum post by "Hi, I'm gabe"Oct 15 19:54
DaemonFCYahoo (Bing)Oct 15 19:54
schestowitz-TRactually more like a front for "hi, I'm creepy uncle bill"Oct 15 19:54
DaemonFCNeeva (Ex-Google employees, pay us $60 a year to search for things. It's good, just pay us.")Oct 15 19:54
DaemonFCEcosia (We're Bing and plant trees.)Oct 15 19:55
schestowitz-TRgreenwashOct 15 19:55
schestowitz-TRnever head of themOct 15 19:55
DaemonFCStartpage (We're an "Ethical Ads" company and we scrape and pay Google.)Oct 15 19:55
schestowitz-TRstartpage is system1Oct 15 19:55
schestowitz-TRwhich also owned waterfox nowOct 15 19:55
schestowitz-TR*ownsOct 15 19:56
schestowitz-TRor mostly ownsOct 15 19:56
DaemonFCQwant (Weird French thing with bad results and lots of ads. Seems largely based on Bing. French government fiat says use Qwant at government offices.)Oct 15 19:56
DaemonFChttps://lutris.net/downloads/Oct 15 19:57
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: lutris.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lutris.net/downloads/Oct 15 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lutris.net | Download LutrisOct 15 19:57
DaemonFCLutris recommends using a Debian repo they host on OpenSUSE build service.Oct 15 19:57
schestowitz-TRdoes not say muchOct 15 19:57
DaemonFCOh sure, why not?Oct 15 19:58
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I'm definitely seeing better throughput with my MTU tweak.Oct 15 20:03
DaemonFCIt turns out that this fucking NOKIA router chokes if you have MTU higher than 1420.Oct 15 20:03
DaemonFCIf you use path MTU discovery, you find out that the router itself is the hop where everything gets fragmented otherwise.Oct 15 20:04
activelowmaybe it isn't the nokia router?Oct 15 20:05
DaemonFCCell networks in the US typically don't get along too well with MTU 1500.Oct 15 20:06
DaemonFCBut T-Mobile does Home Internet and then doesn't mention that it won't work well even though that's the default MTU on the three major operating systems.Oct 15 20:06
activelowMTU is ethernet without any encapsulation anywhereOct 15 20:07
activelowand ethernet isn't the only carrier, although, normally the nokia router should transparently handle this, and fragment the ipOct 15 20:08
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: sorry, cannot reply much atm. busy with two long epo articlesOct 15 20:11
techrights-newsUh oh, looks like Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder is going to suck all my time away | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/uh-oh-looks-like-despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-is-going-to-suck-all-my-time-away ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 20:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uh oh, looks like Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder is going to suck all my time away | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 15 20:12
techrights-news"Blue Mammoth Games announced that later in October that the platform-fighter Brawlhalla will be getting Easy Anti-Cheat. Thankfully, they've put up a Beta for #GNU #Linux users playing it on Steam Play Proton and it works." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/brawlhalla-to-get-easy-anti-cheat-dev-puts-up-beta-with-eac-working-on-linux-with-protonOct 15 20:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brawlhalla to get Easy Anti-Cheat, dev puts up Beta with EAC working on Linux with Proton | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 20:13
techrights-news#microsoft #apple and some Microsoft proxies gain more control over #blender3d (yes, that is what they pay for) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/apple-is-now-funding-blender-development-joining-many-big-namesOct 15 20:14
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/apple-is-now-funding-blender-development-joining-many-big-namesOct 15 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is now funding Blender development joining many big names | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 20:14
techrights-news#Google is breaking the web to rebuild it in their own image. - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P39Buvpzjaw #microsoft has even helped them... shared of overlapping interests, e.g. #drm (EME)Oct 15 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Google is breaking the web to rebuild it in their own image. - InvidiousOct 15 20:16
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/brave-web-browser-will-add-bounce-tracking-privacy-protection/Oct 15 20:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Brave web browser will add bounce tracking privacy protectionOct 15 20:19
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/999166836523520000.jpgOct 15 20:21
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DaemonFChttps://github.com/GSConnect/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect/issues/454Oct 15 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XWayland Clipboard Proxy · Issue #454 · GSConnect/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect · GitHubOct 15 20:24
DaemonFCandyholmes commented on Jun 30, 2019Oct 15 20:24
DaemonFCDisplay does not support owner-change; copy/paste will be broken!Oct 15 20:24
DaemonFCThis is because in GDK's Wayland backend the function gdk_display_supports_selection_notification () always returns false. This shouldn't be related to the problem though.Oct 15 20:24
DaemonFCI'm guessing the error is not showing up in the log because it's a debug message, which won't be logged until Generate Support Log is activated after GSConnect starts. Give this Zip a shot and see if there are any errors during around GSConnect startup:Oct 15 20:24
DaemonFCgsconnect@andyholmes.github.io.zipOct 15 20:24
DaemonFCIt's a misleading message then because there is actually no error.Oct 15 20:25
DaemonFCBut then again, the whole system log gets spammed like this. Oct 15 20:25
DaemonFCThat "Parental Controls" app in GNOME logs that it's hiding apps like the Terminal because no Parental Controls rules have been set up.Oct 15 20:26
DaemonFCBut every app it says it's hiding is visible.Oct 15 20:26
techrights-news#KDE Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition: Five Biggest Changes! - Kockatoo Tube ⚓ https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/xbJ8zb25JfekRsotmi1EVX ䷉ #gnu #linuxOct 15 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition: Five Biggest Changes! - Kockatoo TubeOct 15 20:28
techrights-news#Devuan 4.0 'Chimaera' Systemd-Free Distro Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156785#comment-31392 #gnu #linuxOct 15 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan GNU+Linux 4.0 “Chimaera” Released for Software Freedom Lovers, Based on Debian Bullseye | Tux MachinesOct 15 20:32
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156830 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 15 20:38
techrights-newsWhat Happens When You Run a Command in GNU/Linux? • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156831 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Happens When You Run a Command in Linux? | Tux MachinesOct 15 20:38
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techrights-newsAMD Finally Enabling PSR By Default For Newer Hardware With Linux 5.16 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Linux-5.16-PSR ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 20:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Finally Enabling PSR By Default For Newer Hardware With Linux 5.16 - PhoronixOct 15 20:56
techrights-newsCluster Scheduler Support Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.16 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-Cluster-Scheduler ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧Oct 15 21:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cluster Scheduler Support Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.16 - PhoronixOct 15 21:01
techrights-news#Facebook Should Clarify Terms of Service, Irish #Privacy Regulator Says https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-should-clarify-terms-of-service-irish-privacy-regulator-says-11634290201Oct 15 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Should Clarify Terms of Service, Irish Privacy Regulator Says - WSJOct 15 21:03
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techrights-newsGovernments are finding new ways to squash free expression online https://www.economist.com/international/2021/10/16/governments-are-finding-new-ways-to-squash-free-expression-onlineOct 15 21:04
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: economist.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/international/2021/10/16/governments-are-finding-new-ways-to-squash-free-expression-onlineOct 15 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Governments are finding new ways to squash free expression online | The EconomistOct 15 21:04
techrights-news#openwrt needs to #deletegithub ... these cosmetic changes are not enough to compel or drive mass adoption https://openwrt.org/submitting-patches?rev=1634286765&do=diff note: I know #microsoft has just a mirror of https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=summaryOct 15 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Submitting patchesOct 15 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.openwrt.org Git - openwrt/openwrt.git/summaryOct 15 21:06
techrights-news#Xubuntu 21.10 released • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156832 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 21.10 released! | Tux MachinesOct 15 21:08
techrights-newsdigiKam - digiKam Recipes 21.10.15 released ⚓ https://www.digikam.org/news/2021-10-13_digikam_recipes_21.10.15_released/ ䷉ #digikam #kde #gnu #linux #freeswOct 15 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digikam.org | digiKam - digiKam Recipes 21.10.15 releasedOct 15 21:12
techrights-news#Microsoft became so irrelevant in Web #servers that it is not even mentioned anymore and most tables don't even list Microsoft (it's miniscule, outside view) https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/10/15/october-2021-web-server-survey.htmlOct 15 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | October 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsOct 15 21:14
techrights-newsFrom Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month -- How the EPO is Becoming a #Sweatshop by Patent Examiners' Standards http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-sweatshop/ #epo #patents #europe @zoobab @glynmoody @fosspatentsOct 15 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month — How the EPO is Becoming a Sweatshop by Patent Examiners’ Standards | TechrightsOct 15 21:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/debian-blocks-vpn-and-tor-users-from-reading-its-wiki/Oct 15 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Debian blocks VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRclassyOct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRbut..Oct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRmaybe tor users abused itOct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRto get revengeOct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRor is that for reading too?Oct 15 21:30
schestowitz-TRor also editiingOct 15 21:31
schestowitz-TRdue to spam we limited edits on our own wikiOct 15 21:31
schestowitz-TRwhich used to be open for all to editOct 15 21:31
DaemonFCYou can't even read it.Oct 15 21:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe worth a mention in the blogOct 15 21:34
schestowitz-TRseems oddOct 15 21:34
schestowitz-TRit's not like they can abuse the wikiOct 15 21:35
schestowitz-TRunlike, say, irc serverOct 15 21:35
schestowitz-TRor blog with commentsOct 15 21:35
DaemonFC1,600+ views on the Vivaldi GPLv3 thing on Reddit.Oct 15 21:35
DaemonFCSeems like maybe others can read it, but it still says mods and me only.Oct 15 21:35
schestowitz-TRwhich "sub"?Oct 15 21:36
schestowitz-TRsometimes the mods have conflict of interestOct 15 21:36
schestowitz-TRlike working for the company the sub is aboutOct 15 21:36
schestowitz-TRin which case, maybe you exposed something vivaldi is fearful ofOct 15 21:37
DaemonFCr/uBlockOriginOct 15 21:40
schestowitz-TRwho are the mods?Oct 15 21:43
techrights-newsThe brand "Linux" is still bring spammed abuse by some supposed "artist" who goes by the name "Linux". Where #linuxfoundation when #trademark enforcement is in order? Afraid to sue someone trans?Oct 15 21:45
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/about/moderators/Oct 15 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The original uBlock projectOct 15 21:46
techrights-newsThomas Claburn in #theregister spreads #propaganda for #facebook and others. THIS IS NOT END-TO-END!!! This is mass #surveillance but they're spamming and misusing the term "E2E". They mislead the public into being spied on (without knowing it). https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/whatsapps_backups_encryption/Oct 15 21:47
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/whatsapps_backups_encryption/Oct 15 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | WhatsApp's got your back(ups) with encryption for stored messages • The RegisterOct 15 21:47
techrights-news"We have our script that sets up the system... now we make our script to automatically make our desktop the best looking one out there!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DwGXMLy0uwUOct 15 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 🔴 Live - Time to Rice and Make the Best Looking Desktop - InvidiousOct 15 21:48
DaemonFCI'm refreshing my Debian Live USB stick to 11.1.Oct 15 21:48
DaemonFCI did this every now and then on Fedora just in case.Oct 15 21:48
DaemonFCThey had a lot of update churn and if you used the original release ISO you basically had to re-download the entire OS again anyway through dnf update.Oct 15 21:49
techrights-news#ibm #redhat #clownwashing "Bare metal clowns are gaining a lot of momentum in the telecommunications industry—but why? What is a bare metal clown, and what are the benefits of using it? In this post, we answer these questions and more." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-bare-metal-cloud-powering-telecommunications-industryOct 15 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How bare metal cloud is powering the telecommunications industryOct 15 21:50
schestowitzhttps://lwn.net/Articles/872710/rssOct 15 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/872710/rss )Oct 15 21:51
schestowitz"[$] Possible changes to Debian's decision-making processes"Oct 15 21:51
schestowitznewOct 15 21:51
DaemonFCThere's a lot of odd errors in my GNOME logs.Oct 15 21:51
DaemonFCMost seem to be non-fatal and not the result of anything I've done. (They happen in the live USB, which would be all Debian's fault.)Oct 15 21:51
DaemonFCIt looks sort of tacky.Oct 15 21:51
techrights-news#canonical is naming #ubuntu #linux #kernel packages after #microsoft https://lwn.net/Articles/873056/rss Azure = EPIC failure. http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/Oct 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Friday [LWN.net]Oct 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | TechrightsOct 15 21:52
DaemonFC1,700 viewsOct 15 21:52
DaemonFCWhoa.Oct 15 21:52
DaemonFCRacking them up fast.Oct 15 21:52
DaemonFCI'm the top post on the sub right now.Oct 15 21:52
schestowitz-TRgoodOct 15 21:52
DaemonFCMaybe I'll get some reply from gorhill.Oct 15 21:52
DaemonFCIf Vivaldi is violating his license, they need to be poked in the eye.Oct 15 21:53
techrights-newsSoftware testing - a 32-year-old message ⚓ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-qa-message.html ䷉ #dedoimedo #programmingOct 15 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Software testing - a 32-year-old messageOct 15 21:55
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techrights-newsAutomated bibisect to find source of a bug - #LibreOffice Development Blog ⚓ https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/10/14/automated-bibisect-to-find-source-of-a-bug/ #documentfoundationOct 15 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.blog.documentfoundation.org | Automated bibisect to find source of a bug - LibreOffice Development BlogOct 15 21:56
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techrights-newsNext batch of videos from the LibreOffice Conference 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog ⚓ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/15/next-batch-of-videos-from-the-libreoffice-conference-2021/ ䷉ #documentfoundation #opendocument #freesw #libreoffice #odfOct 15 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Next batch of videos from the LibreOffice Conference 2021 - The Document Foundation BlogOct 15 21:57
XRevan86Rosbalt is now deemed a foreign agent.Oct 15 21:59
AdmFubarhttps://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/how-attackers-hack-humansOct 15 21:59
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: darkreading.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/how-attackers-hack-humansOct 15 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | How Attackers Hack HumansOct 15 21:59
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: So are you ;-)Oct 15 21:59
XRevan86For some reason the Russian government is determined to make every feed in my feed reader a "foreign agent".Oct 15 21:59
schestowitz-TRsooner or later even Putin's chef will be a foreign agentOct 15 22:00
schestowitz-TRfor causing bad publicityOct 15 22:00
XRevan86schestowitz: "Putin's chef" is a nickname that Prigozhin has.Oct 15 22:00
XRevan86Quite a notorious figure.Oct 15 22:01
techrights-news#raspberrypi Issue #373 - Robotic tickles https://www.raspberrypi.com/weekly/robotic-tickles/Oct 15 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.com | Raspberry Pi Weekly Issue #373 - Robotic ticklesOct 15 22:01
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: does he make good food?Oct 15 22:01
schestowitz-TRCan I taste?Oct 15 22:01
XRevan86schestowitz: https://newsweek.com/1380178Oct 15 22:02
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: newsweek.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsweek.com/1380178Oct 15 22:02
schestowitz-TRIn Saudi Arbia, chef cooks journalist...Oct 15 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | 'Putin's Chef' Yevgeniy Prigozhin, Accused of Poisoning Preschool Children, Allegedly Tried to Bribe Parents to Drop LawsuitOct 15 22:02
XRevan86(2019)Oct 15 22:02
XRevan86Navalny's ally Lubov' Sobol' got heavily sued by him for investigating this.Oct 15 22:03
techrights-newsInstitutional capture by an ‘IP’ (litigation) Mafia is nearly complete; with illegal so-called (anti) ‘Strike Regulations’ out the door, they’re quickly moving on to another plan, or so it seems on the surface http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/Oct 15 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With EPO ‘Strike Regulations’ Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside ‘Temps’ or Casual Workers | TechrightsOct 15 22:03
schestowitz-TRIs Navalny's ally Lubov' Sobol' Navalny's chef?Oct 15 22:03
XRevan86schestowitz: 🤔Oct 15 22:03
schestowitz-TRdo chefs have chefs?Oct 15 22:04
schestowitz-TRfor when they want to sit down for a nic dinners?Oct 15 22:04
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schestowitz-TRlike a barber's barber..Oct 15 22:04
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schestowitz-TRdentists' dentistsOct 15 22:05
schestowitz-TRwhat about prostitutes?Oct 15 22:05
XRevan86schestowitz: Those definitely don't need any additional services.Oct 15 22:05
schestowitz-TRdo prostitutes pay for other prostitutes?Oct 15 22:05
schestowitz-TRso you ask your barber:Oct 15 22:05
schestowitz-TR"who cuts your hair?"Oct 15 22:06
schestowitz-TR"is s/he any good?'Oct 15 22:06
AdmFubarhttps://www.databreaches.net/australia-to-tackle-ransomware-data-breaches-by-deleting-stolen-files/Oct 15 22:06
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: databreaches.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/australia-to-tackle-ransomware-data-breaches-by-deleting-stolen-files/Oct 15 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Australia to tackle ransomware data breaches by deleting stolen filesOct 15 22:06
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: ahOct 15 22:07
schestowitz-TR[13:47] <techrights-news> #Microsoft has infiltrated think tanks about #ransomware , so now instead of tackling the #security breaches themselves (which can lead to sabotage or worse) they treat it like a financial transaction issue. http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/Oct 15 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force” | TechrightsOct 15 22:07
schestowitz-TR[13:32] <techrights-news> They need to crack down on #Microsoft #Windows , instead; they use their #NSA #backdoors as a ruse to protect #bigbanks https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/Oct 15 22:07
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/Oct 15 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | White House ransomware summit calls for crypto crackdown • The RegisterOct 15 22:07
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: Australia being dense as usualOct 15 22:09
schestowitz-TRthey also expressed willingless to grant a patent to a botOct 15 22:09
schestowitz-TRinventor on the 'puter ;-)Oct 15 22:09
schestowitz-TR"hey hi"Oct 15 22:09
techrights-newsDeleting #GitHub isn’t a political statement but a pragmatic decision, seeing how #Microsoft routinely misuses its control over GitHub to manipulate the market http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/github-control-by-microsoft/Oct 15 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] GitHub Isn’t Free Hosting, It’s All About Control by Microsoft | TechrightsOct 15 22:11
DaemonFCOh nice.Oct 15 22:11
DaemonFCLutris seems to be stuck on checking for runtime updates.Oct 15 22:11
techrights-newsA longish video about the dreadful situation at the EPO, where staff is being ‘robbed’ and #EPO funds get funnelled into some dodgy #stockmarket investments (a clear violation of the institution’s charter) http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-sweatshop/Oct 15 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month — How the EPO is Becoming a Sweatshop by Patent Examiners’ Standards | TechrightsOct 15 22:11
techrights-newsWith flagrant disregard for court rulings (or workarounds to dodge actual compliance) it seems clear that today’s #EPO management is allergic to justice and to judges; European #Patents perish at unprecedented levels in national European courts and it should be kept that way http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/no-upca/Oct 15 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO ‘Mafia’ | TechrightsOct 15 22:12
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techrights-newsLHS Crew: latest on #gnu #linux https://lhspodcast.info/2021/10/lhs-episode-435-the-weekender-lxxx-2/Oct 15 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #435: The Weekender LXXX | Linux in the Ham ShackOct 15 22:14
techrights-newsMichael Meeks: "A day of gut-wrenching TDF administrative angst; draining." What happened? #libreofficeOct 15 22:15
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I really hate computer software in general.Oct 15 22:15
DaemonFCThe whole smash. I mean, open source stuff tends to be better than Microsoft, but it's hard to not be.Oct 15 22:15
DaemonFCDebian is just a packager, like other distributions, and when they bring in GNOME, they get the bugs straight outta GNOME, and it logs its bugs to the system log, and some of them are just kind of an embarrassment, like "This is ugly and seems trivial. Why don't they fix it?".Oct 15 22:16
DaemonFCKDE has those too.Oct 15 22:16
DaemonFCEvery Event Viewer I bring up (that's what Windows calls it) logs bugs in the OS. All over the OS.Oct 15 22:17
DaemonFCThe Windows event viewer logged tons of them, of course.Oct 15 22:17
DaemonFCSo it's obviously pretty messed up and as long as it isn't visible to the user, they don't seem to care at all, and they don't care much if it is.Oct 15 22:17
DaemonFCThey have this app called Feedback Hub. When I saw it in Windows 10, I started reporting feedback, but nobody from Microsoft ever responded.Oct 15 22:18
DaemonFCThen it turned into a den of "COVID vaccines are the new world order, Trump won the election, and Joe Biden drinks the blood of children", in area for feedback on Windows components.Oct 15 22:19
schestowitz-TR:-)Oct 15 22:19
techrights-news"What you shouldn’t publish on Steam" there's a new line that states "Applications built on blockchain technology that issue or allow exchange of cryptocurrencies or NFTs". https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/valve-banning-games-that-allow-exchanging-cryptocurrencies-or-nftsOct 15 22:21
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/valve-banning-games-that-allow-exchanging-cryptocurrencies-or-nftsOct 15 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve banning games that allow exchanging cryptocurrencies or NFTs | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 22:21
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I have a reader in Hong Kong that seems to come back and read something every day.Oct 15 22:21
techrights-news" #GDQuest , a well-known name in the free and open source Godot Engine land has launched a new crowdfunding campaign aiming to get you to go from zero to hero with #Godot #programming ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/check-out-this-crowdfunding-campaign-to-learn-godot-engine-from-gdquestOct 15 22:22
-altlink_6b2/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/check-out-this-crowdfunding-campaign-to-learn-godot-engine-from-gdquestOct 15 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Check out this crowdfunding campaign to learn Godot Engine from GDQuest | GamingOnLinuxOct 15 22:22
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: the baron?Oct 15 22:22
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DaemonFCYes.Oct 15 22:24
techrights-news#LibreOffice Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156833 #tdf #freesw #TuxMachinesOct 15 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 15 22:24
DaemonFCI started using that a long time ago because I watched the 1984 version of Dune and while I've always thought it was a terrible movie, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen made me laugh hysterically.Oct 15 22:25
DaemonFCIt also got me to read the book, which was great. It's not the best selling sci fi book of all time for no reason.Oct 15 22:25
schestowitz-TRah, yes, that's the reference Oct 15 22:26
DaemonFCThe movie was just completely stupid from beginning to end, but the Baron was at least funny.Oct 15 22:26
schestowitz-TRtoday I think our gemini capsule will serve 30k pagesOct 15 22:26
schestowitz-TRI think all-time highOct 15 22:26
schestowitz-TRdownside is, it's starting to slow down our home networkOct 15 22:26
schestowitz-TReven at 10k per page, that adds upOct 15 22:27
schestowitz-TR10KBOct 15 22:27
schestowitz-TRplus the TLS stuffOct 15 22:27
DaemonFCI'm not sure anyone will ever do the book quite right.Oct 15 22:27
techrights-news#Games: Dystopian Army Builder, Hellraid DLC, and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156834 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Dystopian Army Builder, Hellraid DLC, and More | Tux MachinesOct 15 22:27
DaemonFCThe Sci-Fi Channel miniseries and the sequel were quite good, if a bit dry.Oct 15 22:28
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: can you read a detailed post of ours?Oct 15 22:28
DaemonFCAgain, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen stole the show. But he did in all of the books too.Oct 15 22:28
DaemonFCYeah.Oct 15 22:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/Oct 15 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XIII: Battistelli’s Iberian Facilitators – Spain | TechrightsOct 15 22:29
schestowitzthanks.Oct 15 22:29
*schestowitz will read baronkh posts in the meantimeOct 15 22:30
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: is it ok to merge the two vivaldi posts?Oct 15 22:42
DaemonFCYeahOct 15 22:42
schestowitz-TRI will thing how to fuse themOct 15 22:42
schestowitz-TRreddit post secondOct 15 22:43
techrights-newsThe EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XIII: #Battistelli ’s Iberian Facilitators – #Spain http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ #epo #corruption #es @zoobabOct 15 22:43
DaemonFCSorry, NordVPN keeps wanting to give me servers that are overloaded.Oct 15 22:48
DaemonFCArticle looks okay.Oct 15 22:49
schestowitz-TRthanks!Oct 15 22:49
schestowitz-TRgithub :/Oct 15 22:50
schestowitz-TRahahaOct 15 22:53
schestowitz-TRIBM-paid NPROct 15 22:53
schestowitz-TRyes, IBM controls the media  a lotOct 15 22:53
schestowitz-TRmore than most companies I know, except maybe MicrosoftOct 15 22:53
schestowitz-TRsometimes they control the media by proxy, e.g. LFOct 15 22:53
schestowitz-TRBig Blue Liars.Oct 15 22:54
DaemonFCI'm downloading Vivaldi's latest source code dump.Oct 15 22:55
DaemonFCSee if it has anything interesting when I go through it.Oct 15 22:56
schestowitz-TRI did not find any errors or typosOct 15 22:59
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techrights-newsPost About Whether Vivaldi is a #GPL violation Was Quietly Knifed by the Mods of /r/uBlockOrigin in #Reddit • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/vivaldi-and-gpl/ ䷉ #Techrights #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/vivaldi-and-gpl/Oct 15 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Post About Whether Vivaldi is a GPL violation Was Quietly Knifed by the Mods of /r/uBlockOrigin in Reddit | TechrightsOct 15 23:00
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, It's apparently been visible again to others for a while now.Oct 15 23:03
DaemonFCIt got the attention of the author, who said he didn't see the code I was referring to.Oct 15 23:03
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DaemonFCI pointed him to the ThirdParty subfolder.Oct 15 23:03
DaemonFCIt's going to be a while before I can look at the code from Vivaldi 4.3.Oct 15 23:04
DaemonFCIt's almsot 2 GB and that's very large for a web browser.Oct 15 23:04
DaemonFCToo large.Oct 15 23:04
activelowsickOct 15 23:04
activelowto remain fair counting lines of code is necessary too, and compare this against any other referenceOct 15 23:05
DaemonFCOpera 3.62 (binary form) was 1.38 MB, and that was installed.Oct 15 23:06
DaemonFCYou actually could run it from a floppy disk.Oct 15 23:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Web browsers"Oct 15 23:07
schestowitzI prefer uppercase Oct 15 23:07
schestowitzlike "InternetOct 15 23:07
DaemonFCAn entire Linux kernel tarball is 1/20th the size of Chromium.Oct 15 23:07
activelowfloppy disk is relevant as a reference to envision thisOct 15 23:07
DaemonFCAnd that has to run dozens of architectures of CPU, tens of thousands of devices (more)?Oct 15 23:08
DaemonFCIt has to do a lot of stuff, and a stinking web browser is 20 times that big.Oct 15 23:08
schestowitz"DuckDuckGo quite easy" -> DuckDuckGo quite easilyOct 15 23:08
DaemonFCahhOct 15 23:08
DaemonFCWhere was this?Oct 15 23:09
DaemonFCThe problem with running NordVPN on T-Mobile is mostly that each one of them has throttling policies in place for when their networks get congested.Oct 15 23:10
DaemonFCIt avoids them having to add capacity.Oct 15 23:11
schestowitz-TRthe rest is perfectOct 15 23:11
DaemonFCYou never know which one is doing it, but if you disconnect from the VPN it's less likely, because then only T-Mobile's policy is in effect.Oct 15 23:11
schestowitz-TRand covers all the important "bases", I thinOct 15 23:11
schestowitz-TR*thinkOct 15 23:11
schestowitz-TRI've linked to our catalogue of issues with DDGOct 15 23:11
schestowitz-TRit's accessed hundreds of times each day, stillOct 15 23:12
DaemonFCI'll fix that.Oct 15 23:12
schestowitz-TRbtwOct 15 23:13
schestowitz-TRrecently, according to microsoft tim, ddg was frontiong for microsoft's anti-google lobbyOct 15 23:13
schestowitz-TRin the euwOct 15 23:13
schestowitz-TR*wuOct 15 23:13
schestowitz-TRwhich might be revealing of their tue purpuseOct 15 23:13
schestowitz-TRenvious microsoft has long done that in the euOct 15 23:13
techrights-news#DuckDuckGo ’s HQ is Smaller Than My Apartment • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/dodgyduckgo/ ䷉ #Techrights #privacy #microsoft #google | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/dodgyduckgo/Oct 15 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo’s HQ is Smaller Than My Apartment | TechrightsOct 15 23:14
techrights-news#Debian blocks #VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/debian-blocks-vpn-and-tor-users-from-reading-its-wiki/ #privacyOct 15 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Debian blocks VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. – BaronHK's RantsOct 15 23:15
techrights-newsThe EPO‘s António Campinos is an ‘Academy’ of overt nepotism; what Benoît Battistelli did mostly in #France Campinos does in #Spain and #Portugal , severely harming the international image of these countries • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/Oct 15 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XIII: Battistelli’s Iberian Facilitators – Spain | TechrightsOct 15 23:16
techrights-newsBasics Of Remote Cellular Access: Watchdogs | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/basics-of-remote-cellular-access-watchdogs/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latestOct 15 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Basics Of Remote Cellular Access: Watchdogs | HackadayOct 15 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsOct 15 23:17
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I think the whole point of DuckDuckGo is to trick people into using Bing because it doesn't have the Microsoft stench all over it.Oct 15 23:18
DaemonFCThat was the point of their Yahoo Deal.Oct 15 23:18
techrights-news#microsoft is #googlebombing "Linux" again with #openwashing and old spam. #deletegithubOct 15 23:18
DaemonFCIt redirects people to Bing search results and makes money for Microsoft. DuckDuckGo may not be using Microsoft's ads network, but they have to pay them royalties to get Bing's search results.Oct 15 23:19
techrights-news#microsoft won't let a single day pass by without #linux news being linked to Microsoft's #proprietarySoftware while #zemlin and his Sunshine Boys bag a big salary and grin at #billgatesOct 15 23:19
DaemonFCIf they really were interested in doing better than this, they'd be directing more money into improving the "duckduckbot" so that they didn't need Microsoft at all.Oct 15 23:19
schestowitz-TRI wonder who funds DDGOct 15 23:20
schestowitz-TRthat alone makes you wonderOct 15 23:20
schestowitz-TRor what bill they pay for hostingOct 15 23:20
DaemonFCWell, they can afford to be in the major browsers.Oct 15 23:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's free given some secret dealOct 15 23:20
DaemonFCSafari was the first.Oct 15 23:20
schestowitz-TRworth digging intoiOct 15 23:20
DaemonFCThen Firefox, then Chrome, then Vivaldi.Oct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TRalso qutebrowserOct 15 23:21
DaemonFCGoogle has reasons to offer them in there because of antitrust.Oct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TRlots of idiotic gnu/linux distros wrongly assume this is OKOct 15 23:21
DaemonFCThey can say you don't have to use Google Search just because you use Chrome.Oct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TRor they take money from those lying charlatansOct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TRso where does this money all come from?Oct 15 23:21
DaemonFCMeanwhile, Chrome is reporting everything about you to Google AND to DuckDuckGo now.Oct 15 23:21
DaemonFCSo that's not better.Oct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TRcouple dippingOct 15 23:21
schestowitz-TR*doubleOct 15 23:21
DaemonFCBy default, Chrome sync uses your Google password, which means they can decrypt it and start crawling everything in it.Oct 15 23:22
schestowitz-TRyes, it's terribleOct 15 23:22
DaemonFCVivaldi Sync forces you to have your Vivaldi account _and_ a separate password to decrypt the data client-side.Oct 15 23:22
schestowitz-TRpeople now think it's normal to "upload" their passwordsOct 15 23:23
schestowitz-TR"it's safe! They're BIG companies! Trust the big boyz"Oct 15 23:23
schestowitz-TRmy stupid employer did thisOct 15 23:23
schestowitz-TRworseOct 15 23:23
schestowitz-TRwe once had staff that send passwords around in plain text emailOct 15 23:23
schestowitz-TRusing gmail!Oct 15 23:24
schestowitz-TRor to a gmail accountOct 15 23:24
DaemonFCAt least Vivaldi doesn't use your Vivaldi Account password for the sync data!Oct 15 23:24
DaemonFCIf the server got attacked, then the people doing it could decrypt everything with the same password.Oct 15 23:24
schestowitz-TRdata sync should not leave your own networkOct 15 23:24
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: the company might not even tell you when that happensOct 15 23:25
schestowitz-TRor Jon might sell to china againOct 15 23:25
DaemonFCOnly some complete bonehead would do it where the sync and account passwords are the same.Oct 15 23:25
DaemonFCAdblock Plus and uBlock-Origin are in the Vivaldi 4.3 source bundle.Oct 15 23:31
DaemonFCSome of the Calendar code is.Oct 15 23:31
DaemonFCThe email code doesn't seem to be there.Oct 15 23:32
DaemonFCamazing_grace.mp3Oct 15 23:33
techrights-newsIs this site being paid to promote this #microsoft #windows trash? No other explanation for such a post. :/ Come on, Jean-Luc... https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Mini-PCs/PN-PB-series/Mini-PC-PN41/Oct 15 23:33
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DaemonFCThat's in the source bundle?Oct 15 23:33
DaemonFCA 7.3 MB MP3 of Amazing Grace?Oct 15 23:33
DaemonFCIt's from Chromium.Oct 15 23:34
DaemonFCIt's under third_party/libaom/fuzz/av1_dec_fuzzer_corpus/legacy_streamsOct 15 23:34
schestowitz-TRit is considered racist nowOct 15 23:34
schestowitz-TRwhich I can sort of understandOct 15 23:34
DaemonFCThey used that song in one of the movies that MST3K satirized. Oct 15 23:35
schestowitz-TRsome renditions of it are goodOct 15 23:35
psydruidJean-Luc Van DamnedOct 15 23:35
DaemonFCTom Servo sang "This song is in the public domain. That's why we used it 12 times!".Oct 15 23:35
schestowitz-TRJean-Luc Van IcazaOct 15 23:35
DaemonFCJean-Claude Gosh Darn.Oct 15 23:36
DaemonFCGeez, at least get it right. :)Oct 15 23:36
psydruid🙂Oct 15 23:36
psydruidMicrosoft did the world a huge favour actuallyOct 15 23:36
schestowitz-TRJean-Claude SiegalOct 15 23:36
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I can't seem to find that news article.Oct 15 23:37
DaemonFCMaybe in the Archive?Oct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRno idea...Oct 15 23:37
psydruidIf Vista 11 makes all hardware from before 2018 obsolete and sometimes even newerOct 15 23:37
DaemonFCThat Texas child molester that told the cops he got his CP trove off of Bing.Oct 15 23:37
psydruidWhat is the point of sticking with x86?Oct 15 23:37
DaemonFCThey tried to sweat it out of him like he had a dealer, and it was Microsoft.Oct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRcan't recall such a thingOct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRbut...Oct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRI can find related articlesOct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRin boinboingOct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRabout how bing gives CPOct 15 23:37
schestowitz-TRand then suggests more to youOct 15 23:38
DaemonFCI think those people should just be shot.Oct 15 23:38
schestowitz-TR"you gotta be careful"Oct 15 23:38
schestowitz-TRyou know?Oct 15 23:38
schestowitz-TR"well, he's dead"Oct 15 23:38
DaemonFCI mean, the state will ruin most of them in court to where they'll never do anything again except go to prison.Oct 15 23:38
DaemonFCWhy not just put them out of our misery or on a chain gang somewhere?Oct 15 23:38
schestowitz-TRI had a friend in the gym who thought the sameOct 15 23:38
schestowitz-TRthat convicted pedos should be executedOct 15 23:39
schestowitz-TRI responded by saying, what about murderers?Oct 15 23:39
schestowitz-TRShe said pedophiles were worseOct 15 23:39
DaemonFCI'd say executed or lifetime in prison and sentenced to hard labor.Oct 15 23:39
DaemonFCNo medical care.Oct 15 23:39
schestowitz-TRand had her explanation as to whyOct 15 23:39
DaemonFCThey die whenever they fall over.Oct 15 23:39
schestowitz-TRmental sickness is one thingOct 15 23:40
schestowitz-TRbut, according to her, this has many victimsOct 15 23:40
DaemonFCThat's not a mental illness.Oct 15 23:40
schestowitz-TRand they cannot help themselvesOct 15 23:40
schestowitz-TRrepeeated crime being a matter of timeOct 15 23:40
DaemonFCIt's a sexual preference that is 100% predatory.Oct 15 23:40
schestowitz-TRshe was abused as a kid, but not sexually afaikOct 15 23:40
DaemonFCI don't think we ought to show them much mercy.Oct 15 23:40
schestowitz-TR"Well, he's dead"Oct 15 23:41
DaemonFCThere are crimes I get, like, you come home and you find your spouse in bed with someone else, so you shoot both of them. Those people should go to prison for a while and the goal should be punishment and reform.Oct 15 23:41
DaemonFCYou can't reform a chomo.Oct 15 23:41
DaemonFCPeople have tried everything.Oct 15 23:41
schestowitz-TRhow is his name pronnounced?Oct 15 23:42
schestowitz-TRbear in mind, I don't watch TV?Oct 15 23:42
schestowitz-TR*pronouncedOct 15 23:42
schestowitz-TRI read that as ItalianOct 15 23:42
schestowitz-TRCoo-omoOct 15 23:42
DaemonFCCuomo? LOLOct 15 23:43
schestowitz-TRReminds me of the "no-homo" jokes in youtubeOct 15 23:43
schestowitz-TRI think it's made by gays Oct 15 23:43
schestowitz-TRthe ones that have a sense of humour anywayOct 15 23:43
schestowitz-TRnot very thin-skinned onesOct 15 23:43
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: how is that pronounced?Oct 15 23:46
schestowitz-TRfrom what I saw, Ballmer has his own inner-AndrewOct 15 23:46
kingoffrancequo-moe ?  is that wrong?Oct 15 23:47
schestowitz-TRah, okOct 15 23:47
kingoffrancei dont think ive heard anything elseOct 15 23:47
schestowitz-TRI thought quomoOct 15 23:48
DaemonFCkwaay moeOct 15 23:48
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: ryan, what do you make of that ballmer video?Oct 15 23:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4Oct 15 23:49
DaemonFCThe one with him sweating from his armpits and jumping up and down like an idiot?Oct 15 23:50
schestowitz-TRno, this new oneOct 15 23:50
schestowitz-TRhe and gatesOct 15 23:50
schestowitz-TRnoi geniusesOct 15 23:50
schestowitz-TRbut confirmed perverts of sortsOct 15 23:50
DaemonFCThat's....Oct 15 23:50
DaemonFCcreepyOct 15 23:51
schestowitz-TRcan't there be more sane tech execs?Oct 15 23:51
DaemonFCMaybe you should ask mjg59 about that.Oct 15 23:51
DaemonFCNext time he says something under a pseudonym in the middle of the night.Oct 15 23:51
schestowitz-TRwell, I'd rather ignore the trollOct 15 23:52
schestowitz-TRbut anywayOct 15 23:52
schestowitz-TRI notice much deflectionOct 15 23:52
schestowitz-TRlike the RMS thing in 2019Oct 15 23:52
DaemonFCI'm trying to track down that old Windows Adventure game.Oct 15 23:52
DaemonFCIt was a Windows 3 port of Colossal Cave Adventure.Oct 15 23:53
DaemonFCI think it was the first time I ran into the GNU GPL. Oddly, I had no idea what it meant.Oct 15 23:53
DaemonFCBut I don't recall seeing any source code included on the Galaxy of Games CD.Oct 15 23:53
schestowitz-TRmajor uproad over a poorly worded mailing list post in mitOct 15 23:53
schestowitz-TRcoverup over money from gates and epstein plus thier tight connectionOct 15 23:53
schestowitz-TRwe know who amplified the signal and who distracted from itOct 15 23:53
schestowitz-TRwhen is that game from?Oct 15 23:55
techrights-news#OpenSSH, Squid, PostgreSQL Update in #Tumbleweed • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156835 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSSH, Squid, PostgreSQL Update in Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesOct 15 23:56
MinceR15 230142 < schestowitz-TR> XRevan86: does he make good food?Oct 15 23:56
MinceRspices it all wrongOct 15 23:56
MinceRway too much poloniumOct 15 23:56
schestowitz-TRspaghetti pologneseOct 15 23:56
MinceRlolOct 15 23:56
schestowitz-TRone wrong moleculeOct 15 23:57
schestowitz-TRspoils the borthOct 15 23:57
schestowitz-TR*broth evenOct 15 23:57
MinceRToo Many Cooks...Oct 15 23:57
schestowitz-TRkeep the doctor awayOct 15 23:57
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8Oct 15 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Too Many Cooks | Adult Swim - YouTubeOct 15 23:57
schestowitz-TRyes, I knowOct 15 23:58
techrights-news#Kernel: Paul E. Mc Kenney and New Stuff in Linux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156836 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesOct 15 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Paul E. Mc Kenney and New Stuff in Linux | Tux MachinesOct 15 23:58
schestowitz-TRthere's also "too many chiefs and not enough indians in this place..."Oct 15 23:58

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