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| MinceR | maybe the people need a few more youtube-dl incidents until they learn | Nov 16 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: remember ipfs can be accused of 'piracy' | Nov 16 00:14 |
| schestowitz | among other things | Nov 16 00:14 |
| schestowitz | or transferring some "rogue" files | Nov 16 00:14 |
| schestowitz | with authorities demanding takedowns | Nov 16 00:14 |
| schestowitz | ipfs too needs to #deleteGithub | Nov 16 00:14 |
| schestowitz | to be censorship-resistant | Nov 16 00:15 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/amfcpo.png | Nov 16 00:15 |
| schestowitz | he shoots also | Nov 16 00:15 |
| schestowitz | but only frontally | Nov 16 00:16 |
| schestowitz | they're called imps, iirc | Nov 16 00:16 |
| schestowitz | or rather no... | Nov 16 00:16 |
| schestowitz | the imps are smaller | Nov 16 00:16 |
| schestowitz | this one is "boss" | Nov 16 00:16 |
| MinceR | the one on the picture is a cyberdemon | Nov 16 00:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-151120.html | Nov 16 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 15, 2020 | Nov 16 00:19 | |
| schestowitz | ok, sorted now | Nov 16 00:19 |
| schestowitz | had to chown and chgrp | Nov 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz | for moving to rsync | Nov 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz | rsnyc creates new tmp files | Nov 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz | during the transfer | Nov 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz | so must have permission to write new files | Nov 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I will code a sanity check now | Nov 16 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | decided not to | Nov 16 00:28 |
| schestowitz | as the morning would trigger issue if there's an error anyway | Nov 16 00:28 |
| schestowitz | and the command line would also spew out something if an error occurs | Nov 16 00:28 |
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| vZS1 | > [00:13] MinceR: maybe the people need a few more youtube-dl incidents until they learn | Nov 16 09:48 |
| vZS1 | I think it's a combination of factors | Nov 16 09:48 |
| vZS1 | Money from GAFAM | Nov 16 09:48 |
| vZS1 | Reluctance to run their own development solution | Nov 16 09:49 |
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| scientes | <schestowitz> https://blog.infura.io/an-introduction-to-ipfs/ | Nov 16 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.infura.io | An Introduction to IPFS (Interplanetary File System) | Infura Blog | Tutorials, Case Studies, News, Feature Announcements | Nov 16 09:50 | |
| scientes | Man, I want some of whatever they are smoking. | Nov 16 09:51 |
| vZS1 | I'm thinking hard about how to effectively leverage available technology to come up with a decentralised development tool. I've got some ideas but I need to prototype them. | Nov 16 09:53 |
| schestowitz | now we see Google leveraging GitHub too... to censor DRM-swatting tools | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | so on some level not only Microsoft benefits from GitHub monopoly | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | the site is deeply, inherently imperialistic | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | world police for free software | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | we need to destroy GitHub and Skype etc. | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | They're a force of occupation | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | FB too | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | it's not an exhaustive list | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | technology is a weapon | Nov 16 10:22 |
| schestowitz | proprietary more so | Nov 16 10:23 |
| schestowitz | and centralisation = consolidation of military power | Nov 16 10:23 |
| schestowitz | espionage, censorship, spy op (controlling narratives) | Nov 16 10:23 |
| schestowitz | *psy | Nov 16 10:23 |
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| vZS1 | I don't think we'll ever destroy them. What I'm doing is building an alternative where authors of software maintain full control of their entire project. | Nov 16 10:59 |
| vZS1 | The only way to do that is to get the entire suite to fit on a cheap computer like a RPi | Nov 16 11:00 |
| vZS1 | There's inherent necessity for some server-client components. That's just what some tools require. What I'm trying is to offload as much on to IPFS as possible | Nov 16 11:01 |
| vZS1 | Not looking to reinvent any wheels. Just use what's available in creative ways, with minor tweaks | Nov 16 11:02 |
| vZS1 | Once I've refined the ideas enough, I'll write a white-paper about it with reference examples. | Nov 16 11:03 |
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| vZS1 | Right now I'm thinking about the fundamental interactions between human beings required to develop software. Those will be refined into basic assumptions my system needs to satisfy. | Nov 16 11:05 |
| vZS1 | Then I'll need to work out how to fit tools satisfying those assumptions onto a low-powered computer. | Nov 16 11:06 |
| vZS1 | It shouldn't be too hard. Just need to think about it for a while. | Nov 16 11:07 |
| psydroid | RPis will also grow up over time, democratising the availability of and access to hardware, so there will be even fewer excuses to resort to clown computing companies and their accomplices | Nov 16 11:15 |
| vZS1 | psydroid: that's a very good point | Nov 16 11:16 |
| scientes | psydroid, I had the first one, the sheevaplug, but it doesn't solve the bandwidth problem | Nov 16 11:19 |
| scientes | and asyncronous connections are common | Nov 16 11:19 |
| scientes | with much higher download speeds | Nov 16 11:19 |
| vZS1 | One important thing I'm working with is to offload a lot of the processing work to a separate machine. There's too much bloat in server software today. | Nov 16 11:19 |
| scientes | and also ISPs often do not provide IPv6 | Nov 16 11:20 |
| scientes | particularly mobile is often NAT-ipv4-only | Nov 16 11:20 |
| vZS1 | The nice thing about IPFS is that all you really need to do is maintain indices | Nov 16 11:21 |
| vZS1 | Every application boils down to index management | Nov 16 11:22 |
| vZS1 | And the IPFS objects don't even need to live on the server coordinating indices | Nov 16 11:22 |
| Ariadne | vZS1: by the way, i am planning to publish alpine software repositories to IPFS, to enable a permanent archive (where you can select a date and get the repos that were published as of that date) | Nov 16 11:22 |
| vZS1 | That's my basic guiding principle | Nov 16 11:23 |
| MinceR | 16 104932 < vZS1> Reluctance to run their own development solution | Nov 16 11:43 |
| MinceR | they don't have to run their own, there are plenty of hosts not run by microshit | Nov 16 11:43 |
| vZS1 | Well, I'm going for full autonomy here | Nov 16 11:45 |
| vZS1 | So external hosting is not considered | Nov 16 11:45 |
| vZS1 | As a basic assumption | Nov 16 11:45 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Ez3FDEe.jpg | Nov 16 11:54 |
| MinceR | i suspect many developers are too cheap to run their own server | Nov 16 11:55 |
| vZS1 | They're free to run their project however they want | Nov 16 11:56 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: just got an electric splitter so I can hook up more devices | Nov 16 12:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'll by a second-hand dedicated display for the rapi in December | Nov 16 12:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19455499 | Nov 16 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Names can be misleading and acronyms too. Take FSFE fot example. The (real) FSF opposes the FSFE's use of the "FSF" name (there are leaks to show this) because FSFE does not stand for what FSF stands for. The "E" for Europe? Nope. Biggest sponsors AMERICAN ... #ProprietarySoftware giants | Nov 16 12:34 | |
| vZS1 | I just have mine on the bottom of my work desk. My monitor has 2 HDMI ports. One cable is always free for stuff like the Pi | Nov 16 12:34 |
| vZS1 | That's how I use my air-gapped computers | Nov 16 12:36 |
| vZS1 | They don't have any networking on them | Nov 16 12:36 |
| vZS1 | I just plug in a keyboard and hook it up to my monitor | Nov 16 12:36 |
| vZS1 | Some of them are old so I have a VGA-HDMI adapter for them | Nov 16 12:37 |
| vZS1 | Got a few PS/2 keyboards lying around as well, for the old units. | Nov 16 12:39 |
| schestowitz | cool | Nov 16 12:41 |
| schestowitz | sounds familiar a habit | Nov 16 12:41 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: the scripts are now chained | Nov 16 12:42 |
| oiaohm | there are some quite cheap KVM switch solutions out there for cases where monitors don't have don't have enough ports. | Nov 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | as noted after midnight | Nov 16 12:42 |
| oiaohm | For airgapping. | Nov 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | I just had to correct some permission barrier at the server side | Nov 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's not hard to switch manually | Nov 16 12:42 |
| vZS1 | Let me check the bot | Nov 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | only takes like 5 seconds | Nov 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | TotalIn: 13 GB | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | TotalOut: 5.0 GB | Nov 16 12:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is the issue of port wear to consider. | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | I spent an hour studying the firefox extensions | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "companion" | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | and reading about it | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | some of it still flies over my head | Nov 16 12:43 |
| vZS1 | The CLI is a lot simpler | Nov 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | here's a question | Nov 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz | I could not easily answer | Nov 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz | what command to cat a particular ipfs hash? | Nov 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz | just showing its contents in the CLI gives the hash/CID | Nov 16 12:44 |
| vZS1 | `ipfs cat CID` | Nov 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | i might want to post about this in techrights | Nov 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | and ask people to install it, then pin us | Nov 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe the manual you wrote already has something about that to reuse | Nov 16 12:45 |
| vZS1 | Sounds like a plan | Nov 16 12:46 |
| vZS1 | I logged into the Pi | Nov 16 12:47 |
| vZS1 | Your one | Nov 16 12:47 |
| vZS1 | The bot is working | Nov 16 12:47 |
| vZS1 | Going to head off now. Got stuff to do | Nov 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | liking ipfs | Nov 16 12:49 |
| vZS1 | Have a good day | Nov 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | will improve our workflow over time | Nov 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | will promote it | Nov 16 12:49 |
| schestowitz | still learning | Nov 16 12:49 |
| oiaohm | https://slashdot.org/story/20/11/15/2340224/amazons-alexa-can-now-guess-what-you-want-before-you-ask-for-it hmm this is could get worse in future. | Nov 16 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slashdot.org | Amazon's Alexa Can Now Guess What You Want Before You Ask For It - Slashdot | Nov 16 12:53 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, do you want to die? | Nov 16 13:07 |
| scientes | Alexa: yes | Nov 16 13:07 |
| scientes | oiaohm, have you seen the movie Brazil? | Nov 16 13:07 |
| oiaohm | scientes: the one I was thinking about was this is Amazon manage if Alexa gets smart and you find your self with no money and a huge stack of products that Alexa decided to order for you because it thought you were interested. | Nov 16 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Package return from hell. | Nov 16 13:10 |
| scientes | oiaohm, that is the least of your problems if you have one of those things | Nov 16 13:11 |
| scientes | watch Brazil | Nov 16 13:11 |
| schestowitz | [12:53] <oiaohm> https://slashdot.org/story/20/11/15/2340224/amazons-alexa-can-now-guess-what-you-want-before-you-ask-for-it hmm this is could get worse in future. | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | slashdot = spam | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | marketing | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | amazon says amazon | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | bill gates says | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | trump thinks | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | pfizer claims pfizer ... | Nov 16 13:12 |
| schestowitz | 'journalism' | Nov 16 13:12 |
| oiaohm | AI forward guessing is possible. | Nov 16 13:13 |
| scientes | why do usb 3 drives need external power adapter? | Nov 16 13:13 |
| scientes | 750 mA not enough? | Nov 16 13:14 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I have not watched the movie Brazil but its description matches a lot of other movies I have watched over the years. Like the net and so on. | Nov 16 13:15 |
| scientes | you won't regret it | Nov 16 13:15 |
| scientes | great movie | Nov 16 13:15 |
| oiaohm | when you say usb3 drives needing external power adapters. | Nov 16 13:15 |
| oiaohm | I guess you mean the harddrives. | Nov 16 13:15 |
| scientes | yeah | Nov 16 13:15 |
| scientes | the Xilinx suite takes fucking 70 GB | Nov 16 13:15 |
| scientes | I though 512GB ssd was pretty big, considering I lived with 64GB before | Nov 16 13:16 |
| scientes | but this thing is massive | Nov 16 13:16 |
| scientes | hmm the 2.5" hard drives seem to work without power adapter | Nov 16 13:17 |
| scientes | only 3.5" need it | Nov 16 13:17 |
| oiaohm | That correct. | Nov 16 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes it power draw. | Nov 16 13:17 |
| oiaohm | 3.5 inch harddrives to spin up need quite a bit of power. | Nov 16 13:18 |
| scientes | ok, this is still much cheaper than bigger SSD | Nov 16 13:18 |
| oiaohm | floppy drives and 2.5" can spin up if USB port does provide power up to specification. | Nov 16 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Some motherboards you have to use a powered hub or the 2.5"/floppy drives are not starting. | Nov 16 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Or if you have used too long of USB extention cable. | Nov 16 13:19 |
| MinceR | > FSFE does not stand for what FSF stands for. | Nov 16 13:19 |
| MinceR | the FSF no longer stands for what it used to, either | Nov 16 13:19 |
| oiaohm | scientes: also its not purely power draw. Lot of 3.5" drives require 12 volt for the motor as well. Steping that up from 5 volts has not been particularly fun. | Nov 16 13:20 |
| scientes | I think I can get a 4GB 2.5" external | Nov 16 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Normally I would use a caddy and a NAS grade drive. | Nov 16 13:21 |
| scientes | TB* | Nov 16 13:21 |
| oiaohm | Some of the prebuild drives are pure crap. | Nov 16 13:21 |
| scientes | I only have one port + m.2 | Nov 16 13:21 |
| scientes | and I want to keep my m.2 free so I can try to get this FPGA working | Nov 16 13:21 |
| scientes | also the external drives are actually cheaper | Nov 16 13:21 |
| oiaohm | There are WD where the USB controller is intergrated into the harddrive main board. | Nov 16 13:21 |
| scientes | and buying an external drive and removing the drive is actually something people do..... | Nov 16 13:22 |
| oiaohm | they don't think why they are cheaper. | Nov 16 13:22 |
| scientes | its mainly because of competition | Nov 16 13:22 |
| scientes | the volumes are much higher for USB | Nov 16 13:22 |
| scientes | unless you are datacenter/OEM | Nov 16 13:22 |
| scientes | I hate trying to get propritary software working | Nov 16 13:23 |
| scientes | and not having it be any fun | Nov 16 13:23 |
| scientes | spending money and having nothing work is no fun | Nov 16 13:23 |
| scientes | https://github.com/RHSResearchLLC/NiteFury-and-LiteFury | Nov 16 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - RHSResearchLLC/NiteFury-and-LiteFury: Public repository for uEVB | Nov 16 13:23 | |
| scientes | I have this | Nov 16 13:23 |
| oiaohm | scientes: that is not in fact right. | Nov 16 13:23 |
| scientes | but I haven't gotten anything working yet | Nov 16 13:23 |
| oiaohm | The specifcations the external harddrives are made to are way lower than a NAS drive. | Nov 16 13:24 |
| oiaohm | To the point that some external hardrives in prebuilt will grind the disk surface off themselves so making 100 percent zero data recovery. | Nov 16 13:25 |
| scientes | yeah that is why I am thinking I should get a bigger SSD | Nov 16 13:25 |
| scientes | but it will hold nothing important | Nov 16 13:25 |
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| scientes | only this shitty propirtary software and movies | Nov 16 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases if you cannot see the SSD or harddrive inside you can fairly much better is their worst grade of drive they make. | Nov 16 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Prebuild drives you have a horrible risk of it will eat your data basically. | Nov 16 13:26 |
| scientes | I haven't had a hard drive fail on me yet | Nov 16 13:26 |
| scientes | not a single one | Nov 16 13:26 |
| scientes | except for software bugs in MicroShit | Nov 16 13:26 |
| oiaohm | I have had 3.5 inch drives fail on me when old that were bought as desktop/NAS. | Nov 16 13:27 |
| MinceR | i've had a USB drive case fry a HDD in it | Nov 16 13:27 |
| oiaohm | But I have had prebuild external harddrives fail just warnatiy. | Nov 16 13:27 |
| MinceR | because it didn't have enough cooling | Nov 16 13:27 |
| MinceR | my prebuilt externals behave far better | Nov 16 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Yes that happens with the prebuilt as well/ | Nov 16 13:28 |
| MinceR | hasn't happened with my WDsyet | Nov 16 13:28 |
| MinceR | s/sy/s y/ | Nov 16 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Don't think prebuilt cases will have suitable cooling for the drive inside yet. | Nov 16 13:28 |
| MinceR | they will, if the manufacturer doesn't want to lose a lot on warranty :> | Nov 16 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Out of the 20 WD external prebuilds I have pulled apart only 1 had correct amount of cooling for the drive inside. | Nov 16 13:29 |
| oiaohm | That 20 different models. | Nov 16 13:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: maybe you got lucky and picked one that is right. | Nov 16 13:30 |
| MinceR | more like at least 8 | Nov 16 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Always in AC? | Nov 16 13:30 |
| oiaohm | when in use? | Nov 16 13:30 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Nov 16 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Airconditioned offices | Nov 16 13:30 |
| MinceR | i have no AC here | Nov 16 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Lot of WD drives if you read the specification sheets they are only rated to work in AC | Nov 16 13:31 |
| oiaohm | that the external ones. | Nov 16 13:31 |
| MinceR | great | Nov 16 13:31 |
| oiaohm | I guess no cooling fan. | Nov 16 13:31 |
| MinceR | none of mine have cooling fans | Nov 16 13:32 |
| oiaohm | The ones designed for not for AC have a fan. | Nov 16 13:32 |
| MinceR | neither did the non-WD case that fried the HDD | Nov 16 13:32 |
| oiaohm | That would be another item designed for AC | Nov 16 13:33 |
| oiaohm | As in under 28 C room. | Nov 16 13:33 |
| MinceR | i had a replaceable drive caddy in my desktop which had a tiny whiny fan, but that fan eventually broke | Nov 16 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Preferable under 24C | Nov 16 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Annoying to avoid wihine fan equals going up to a NAS case. | Nov 16 13:35 |
| oiaohm | So you get a 12cm fan. | Nov 16 13:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the metal case harddrive enclosures will work safely if you put them in airflow outside AC. | Nov 16 13:40 |
| oiaohm | So drive with USB fan as traveling kit. | Nov 16 13:40 |
| oiaohm | So generally there has to be a fan there by some form. The plastic case ones the case is basically thermal insulation. | Nov 16 13:41 |
| oiaohm | Nice of you want the drive and circuit wammer not good if you want to keep the temp where it should be. | Nov 16 13:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:19] <MinceR> the FSF no longer stands for what it used to, either | Nov 16 13:46 |
| schestowitz | That's another issue LOL and it did not fly over my head when I typed iot | Nov 16 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm not even sure GNU stands for GNU anymore | Nov 16 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Seeing GNOME statements and Guix petition | Nov 16 13:47 |
| schestowitz | Gnu GNU | Nov 16 13:47 |
| schestowitz | the new order | Nov 16 13:47 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Word New Order | Nov 16 13:47 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: the one that failed was metal | Nov 16 15:34 |
| MinceR | also, it seems to me that the WD MyBooks (based on 3.5" drives) have a lot of airflow holes and are much bigger than the actual HDD | Nov 16 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: https://www.dedoimedo.com/games/goat-simulator.html | Nov 16 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Goat Simulator - It's the GOAT | Nov 16 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/837343/rss | Nov 16 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube-dl repository restored at GitHub [LWN.net] | Nov 16 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: OOO SHITTTTEE!!! | Nov 16 16:05 |
| schestowitz | People #deleteGithub ... quick!!! We gotta do something. No, not that shite we made up about "Arctic vault" when ICE backlash caused chaos. | Nov 16 16:06 |
| scientes | schestowitz, that is a real game? | Nov 16 16:07 |
| scientes | I thought it was a joke | Nov 16 16:07 |
| scientes | well, of course it is a joke | Nov 16 16:07 |
| scientes | but a really well-developed joke | Nov 16 16:07 |
| schestowitz | the graphics looks ok | Nov 16 16:08 |
| schestowitz | the story is right up some people's alley | Nov 16 16:08 |
| scientes | World of Goo is a really polished game | Nov 16 16:08 |
| scientes | with stellar 2D physics | Nov 16 16:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plasma 5.18 LTS seems to be relatively trouble-free for me. | Nov 16 16:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Someone was mentioning the HP Spectre, and some Linux distributions are a little cranky on it apparently, but Ubuntu 20.04 LTS works fine on the latest model from what I was told. | Nov 16 16:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said Kubuntu had HiDPI issues. I assume they're just the ones I've been running into all along. | Nov 16 16:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They are pretty trivial to fix. You just have to set it to scale the desktop properly and then resize the panel. | Nov 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do wish they would fix that though with autodetect. | Nov 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On a 5 star scale, I'd say 4 stars, just because people see that and go wtf, even though it's quite easy to fix. | Nov 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On a FHD display it works just fine out of the box though. | Nov 16 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And those have become the standard quality of display you get on a sub $1,000 laptop and therefore what most people will see Plasma on. | Nov 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This laptop was about 4 years ahead of its time in many ways and Lenovo got so many things right with the hardware that most of the newer laptops are just not that compelling. | Nov 16 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To be a fair critic here, Windows 10 actually had more problems with the hardware around the time it launched. The Intel graphics crashed the programs you tried to run quite often, the HiDPI scaling was (maybe still is) a complete joke. | Nov 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like it would work but programs that did not know what it was looked stretched and fuzzy to the point where they actually look better running on Wine. | Nov 16 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Lenovo wanted a good customer experience, they would have been shipping some sort of Linux distribution on these things all along because the hardware support was so much farther along. | Nov 16 16:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | mjg59mentioned power management sucked, but if you looked at Windows 10 it was actually much worse. | Nov 16 16:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Especially at idle and it rarely, if ever, got past pc2 or 3, and that was Windows 10, you know. | Nov 16 16:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | What it was "designed for", and now Linux gets to pc7 or pc8 quite often, and even then it would get to deeper sleep states than Windows 10 easily. | Nov 16 16:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At idle, Windows 10 was drawing 11-12 watts and Linux at the same time with GNOME and some power tweaks was hitting 5-6. Now Linux at idle is usually 3-4. | Nov 16 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Vista10 is never idle | Nov 16 16:20 |
| schestowitz | it's always talking | Nov 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They claimed an all day battery with Windows 10, but Windows 10 would last 4-5 hours at best when the battery was brand new. | Nov 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Linux was hitting 7-8. | Nov 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is my second battery, and Linux can now get to 9 or maybe 9.5 hours. | Nov 16 16:20 |
| schestowitz | when you press the calculator's digit it's talking also | Nov 16 16:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, there's always something keeping the CPU from hitting deeper sleep states on Windows, whether that be bugs in Windows or just the spyware keeping something up. | Nov 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Garrett was dishonest as usual and figured nobody would ever fact check. | Nov 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like listening to President for the next 60 days Trump with his alternative facts, whatever those are. | Nov 16 16:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not just the spurious allegations of you condoning rape. | Nov 16 16:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | He flat out lied about power management on my particular laptop, rushing to the defense of Microsoft and Lenovo, and if we're very generous we'll just say he was talking out his ass based on assumption and speculation. | Nov 16 16:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, I mentioned that I was not seeing this "horrible" (compared with Windows 10) power situation once the firmware was fixed and I could run Linux that he was talking about, but Garrett is a very evasive and squirrely person who will run and hide when he's losing and then come out to take pot shots. | Nov 16 16:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz They also lie about the Intel mitigation drag. | Nov 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's much worse, collectively, than they admit, in certain situations. | Nov 16 16:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For example, with the defaults I can only get WavPack to transcode from FLAC at about 2x, but with all of them turned off it's just shy of 6x all of a sudden. | Nov 16 16:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I can either get by with a horribly crippled processor or at my own risk. | Nov 16 16:27 |
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| schestowitz | [16:21] <DaemonFC[m]> So Garrett was dishonest as usual and figured nobody would ever fact check. | Nov 16 16:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't view Garrett as much | Nov 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz | he's good at hacking and undermining security, apparently | Nov 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz | but that says little or nothing about software freedom, science, honesty etc. | Nov 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz | in fact, if you were to ask me, the sort of ommunity he's in has been full of perverts and "Crims" | Nov 16 16:31 |
| schestowitz | people who break things for "shits and giggles" | Nov 16 16:32 |
| scientes | he is just a SJW | Nov 16 16:32 |
| scientes | but not a bad person | Nov 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz | he can be bad if he targets you | Nov 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz | for "shits and giggles" | Nov 16 16:32 |
| scientes | well yes | Nov 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz | "fart fart fart" | Nov 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | see some of his tweets | Nov 16 16:33 |
| scientes | like believing in MS and security-for-us boot | Nov 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | even worse I've seen | Nov 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | lots of security pretense is imperialistic | Nov 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | posers basically | Nov 16 16:33 |
| scientes | EFI has been a massive blow for software freedom | Nov 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | mjg59 participates in all that posting at times | Nov 16 16:33 |
| scientes | and no x86 systems boot without signed firmware these days | Nov 16 16:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Microsoft's security was so bad that I figured out how to takeover MSN chat rooms when I was like 14, right? | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | as if giving keys to someone else will save us from mythical rootkits and bootkits | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | people are more likely to be attacked on other surfaces/vectors | Nov 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tossed everyone out of the Computer Help room and made myself the HOST (owner). | Nov 16 16:34 |
| scientes | (which was Intel's plan) | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | no need to boot some shit on Windows | Nov 16 16:34 |
| scientes | EFI was Intel's plan to steal the platform from Windows | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | you just sent them rogue Windows Update or email with executable | Nov 16 16:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I gave it back eventually after making them say please. | Nov 16 16:34 |
| scientes | by putting their own OS under Windows | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | or use the latest microsoft 0-day | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | unpatched at the NSA's request | Nov 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | so he participates in what Torvbalds called "masturbating monkets" | Nov 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I plan to either get a Pixelbook or a System76 laptop eventually probably. | Nov 16 16:35 |
| scientes | and EFI is also why x86 computers boot so damn slow | Nov 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | bragging about things that the ordinary person does not and won't benefit from | Nov 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Nov 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can no longer be bothered with substandard software that doesn't work right, or ever, and that definitely rules out Windows. | Nov 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds hates him | Nov 16 16:35 |
| scientes | because Torvalds is sane | Nov 16 16:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And uEFI is the most poorly written mess I've ever seen. | Nov 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | look at some of their exchanges in lkml | Nov 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | afaik, Torvalds is OK with me | Nov 16 16:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It makes the legacy BIOS look fucking perfect in comparison. | Nov 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | never told me something rude directly or indirectly | Nov 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | but he works for LF | Nov 16 16:36 |
| scientes | he is naïevely stupid about software freedom | Nov 16 16:36 |
| scientes | but sane | Nov 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | so he needs to be careful what he says | Nov 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | [16:35] <DaemonFC[m]> I plan to either get a Pixelbook or a System76 laptop eventually probably. | Nov 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | those are overpriced | Nov 16 16:36 |
| scientes | the GPL2-GPL3 split is very poisonous to solidarity | Nov 16 16:37 |
| scientes | pushes lots of hackers to permissive licenses | Nov 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | but sure, they at least support gnu/linux on practice | Nov 16 16:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: You get what you pay for really, with hardware. | Nov 16 16:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most stuff intended for retail under $1,000 just doesn't hold up. | Nov 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | you could buy refurbished and wipe | Nov 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | so the "tax" was paid by someone else | Nov 16 16:37 |
| scientes | just get a thinkpad | Nov 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | even more pricey | Nov 16 16:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yes, that's certainly an option. Scratch and dent stuff from Amazon is often 20-25% off. | Nov 16 16:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can score a $1,300 laptop under $1,000 for sure and it's never even been used. | Nov 16 16:38 |
| scientes | yeah but thinkpads are actually designed for spilling water on the keyboard | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | still overpriced | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | no laptop is worth that much | Nov 16 16:38 |
| scientes | I only buy them used | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | you could buy 5 for that price | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | then group them | Nov 16 16:38 |
| scientes | if you are in SF the used laptop market is excellent | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | electron kills em | Nov 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | no 32 gb of ram? TRASH! | Nov 16 16:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, it's like this really.... You can go 5 years and buy three pieces of junk that go on the fritz and nobody stands behind it. | Nov 16 16:39 |
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| scientes | hahahahahahaha | Nov 16 16:39 |
| scientes | elecTRON | Nov 16 16:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or you can just buy one quality product and end up shelling out less to begin with, and no disruptions. | Nov 16 16:39 |
| schestowitz | ErecTON | Nov 16 16:39 |
| scientes | hahahahaa | Nov 16 16:39 |
| scientes | supposedly spaceX is "pwoered" by chromium | Nov 16 16:39 |
| schestowitz | tabs that take up 1gb of ram | Nov 16 16:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm just not sure about those $479 laptops at Walmart. The hardware looks fine mostly. | Nov 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | and are NOT a virtual desktop running kde plasma5 | Nov 16 16:40 |
| scientes | e17 is actually quite good | Nov 16 16:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But what corners did they cut to get there? Is there a shoddy battery, a keyboard that will break, a screen that will short out? | Nov 16 16:40 |
| scientes | Tizon switched to e17 before folding | Nov 16 16:40 |
| scientes | they also developed systemd --user | Nov 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | *Tizen | Nov 16 16:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't get to <$500 without sacrificing something. | Nov 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I think it's not dead | Nov 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | not officially anyway | Nov 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | some people still use it | Nov 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | I think in developing markets | Nov 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | their lack of software is a barrier | Nov 16 16:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can get away with it on phones because those ARM boards are cheap as heell and reasonably performant and Android has gotten better, | Nov 16 16:41 |
| scientes | yeah, but pinephone is the only thing with momentum anymore | Nov 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | we used to support the tizen infra | Nov 16 16:41 |
| scientes | sailfishOS could have had the momentum if they had better PR | Nov 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | we still get domain registration reminders | Nov 16 16:41 |
| scientes | pinephone bugs are doing great | Nov 16 16:41 |
| scientes | I get mine soon | Nov 16 16:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, there's not as much actual hardware there, so no keyboard, one physical port, etc. | Nov 16 16:41 |
| scientes | I just love their community involvement | Nov 16 16:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: But something pissed me off yesterday. | Nov 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Trump's g/f? | Nov 16 16:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was in Walmart using my photo gallery and this thing popped up over the app asking me to back up my photos on OneDrive, which I had disabled. | Nov 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | OneDrive, one Nation | Nov 16 16:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is determined as hell to pester you on Android even if you've removed or disabled their shitty apps. | Nov 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | One World, One Web, One Program. | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | - Ad for Internet Explorer | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer. | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | - Adolf Hitler | Nov 16 16:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're even baked into the firmware in some places on Samsung, like a button to "Connect to Windows.". | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | they put those "apps" there using patent blackmail | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | to "settle" | Nov 16 16:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is funny because I'm using KDE Connect on it and I can take control of my laptop for the most part with that. | Nov 16 16:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And beam things back and forth just fine. | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | They sued Samsung in 2015 | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | The 'new' Microsoft | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | nadella | Nov 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Around the time they said they "love Linux" | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | they sued Samsung | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Don't tell SJVN | Nov 16 16:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Best Buy guy said "Oh you can disable or remove almost all of that.". | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | He'll go on a rant saying the victim is nasty | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | something "about Trump" | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | so it's OK for Microsoft to assault Linux | Nov 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Because "trump something" | Nov 16 16:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He wasn't lying. Hell, maybe Microsoft is the reason that the Galaxy S20 FE was $100 cheaper than the Pixel 4a 5G. | Nov 16 16:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bribery you know. | Nov 16 16:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pay them to barrage you with junk. | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | preloads | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft even sold S phones | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | with Windows and "Cloud" junk | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | didn't go well | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | but they try to dominate Android | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Through "apps" | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves everything | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | esp. when they "wrest control" | Nov 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/ | Nov 16 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | History’s Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating ‘Schism’ to ‘Wrest Control’) | Techrights | Nov 16 16:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, "dominate". It's a good word. In the sense that Trump tried "dominating" the debate. | Nov 16 16:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing important. Just interruptions and aggravations to show that he was going to troll the entire thing. | Nov 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.ghacks.net/2020/11/16/dont-activate-the-lets-go-button-in-the-windows-10-settings-application/ | Nov 16 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Don't activate the "Let's Go" button in the Windows 10 Settings application - gHacks Tech News | Nov 16 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Gates "dominates" the covid debate | Nov 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | look at the media | Nov 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates thinks | Nov 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates plans | Nov 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates says | Nov 16 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://youtu.be/TO6QwGOoYbs | Nov 16 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Село за Путина! - YouTube | Nov 16 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates ponders | Nov 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates predicts | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates didn't finish college | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates is no computer scientist | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates is no medical pro | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates isn't without criminal record :-) | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | but money! | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | what did bill invest? | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | money | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | oh wait | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | that's what his grandparents did | Nov 16 16:49 |
| schestowitz | and his parents were already rich anyway | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | But he dominates | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft dominates | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Bill's mom dominated the IBM Board | Nov 16 16:50 |
| scientes | XRevan86, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | so they gave failing bill (already failing companies) a contract | Nov 16 16:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: did you see headline about android/google and gates? | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | he blames the "government" for android domination | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | the government | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | like those vets who shout in the streets | Nov 16 16:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is trying to push itself as a "premium" product, like you buy a laptop that's sky high expensive and you do get great hardware, but unfortunately it comes with this complete mess, Windows 10. | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | "big government" | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | because antitrust action sought to enforce the law, belatedly | Nov 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: premium cocaine | Nov 16 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even without all of the bloatware from OEMs (which is part of the retail price you pay even if you do nuke it and run Linux), Windows 10 is too unreliable and foul tempered to try to use for any period of time. | Nov 16 16:52 |
| schestowitz | best of the best, puts you to sleep | Nov 16 16:52 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: someone from Microsoft told me he needs to reboot every week | Nov 16 16:52 |
| schestowitz | because like 16-32gb of ram is not enough | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | it adds up | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | leaks and stuff | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | memory running low | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | so must reboot | Nov 16 16:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, I'd say if the Spectre is a wipe and put Linux on it solution and the Surface needs its own fucking kernel.... | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | I've not reboot this laptop in 110 days now | Nov 16 16:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why would people be doing the Surface and not the HP Spectre for a wipe and install job? | Nov 16 16:53 |
| schestowitz | brb, gonna post Daily Links | Nov 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, if you need a "surface-Linux" kernel package that should raise alarm bells. it means those drivers are not even good enough to be in -staging, which most distributions build out of anyway. | Nov 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you're unlikely to have a good time with it, right? | Nov 16 16:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm fine with -staging drivers that definitely have a future and that's why they're in there right now. | Nov 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But surface-linux kernels that people can just walk away from? One a $1,600 laptop? Nope. | Nov 16 16:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *on | Nov 16 16:55 |
| psydroid | I don't know why anyone would buy those expensive unfixable Surface devices that are designed to run only Windows and then try to put Linux on them | Nov 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, you can, but why would you? | Nov 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not the best hardware, certainly not at the best price for what you're getting, and it needs out of tree drivers that could do anything. | Nov 16 16:56 |
| psydroid | if anything people should steer clear of them and let that become another failed Microsoft experiment | Nov 16 16:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't buy a laptop without at least 16 GB of RAM. | Nov 16 16:57 |
| scientes | psydroid, same for jailbreaking iPhones | Nov 16 16:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's my red line right there, not because I am used to running laptops out of RAM, but because 10% of the time I use the laptop I exceed 8 GB of RAM and I don't want to occasionally walk into a problem. | Nov 16 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think 16 GB should be the floor right now. I really do. | Nov 16 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 16 GB is a "never worry about it" amount of RAM for me and so I'll buy it expecting to rarely use all of it, and if I don't that's fine. The remainder isn't wasted. It's a disk cache. | Nov 16 16:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The idea of Windows devices with 8 GB or 4 GB is comical. | Nov 16 16:59 |
| psydroid | I am on a Zbook Studio G3 that I could just not get Linux on for the first 6 months due to UEFI bugs, but after that I upgraded the RAM to 32 GB and put another SSD in so I could go back to being productive without having to run everything in a Linux VM because I just don't trust MS at all to do anything in an acceptable way | Nov 16 16:59 |
| psydroid | I was so relieved because the MS POS would still crash several times a week while running only Virtualbox with my Linux VM | Nov 16 17:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would maybe go as low as 8 on a Chromebook. | Nov 16 17:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the reason, of course, is that zram setup they have, which is brilliant. | Nov 16 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's pleasant to use at 4 GB so I think even with lots of Linux apps running 8 would be enough for the life of the computer. | Nov 16 17:01 |
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| scientes | working in a VM is torture | Nov 16 17:03 |
| scientes | I've done it | Nov 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They really throw a lot of software tricks into optimizing Chromebooks for low RAM. | Nov 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Helps get the prices down and the user probably won't notice. | Nov 16 17:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Windows 10, and everyone who buys a Windows 10 S device for those prices, only lives to regret it. | Nov 16 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say even with 4 GB it's slow and terrible. | Nov 16 17:04 |
| MinceR | 16 173214 < scientes> he is just a SJW | Nov 16 17:06 |
| MinceR | 16 173220 < scientes> but not a bad person | Nov 16 17:06 |
| MinceR | contradiction in terms | Nov 16 17:06 |
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| psydroid | my Windows 10 VM with 4 cores and 12 GB of RAM (which I needed for ModelSim recently) is still slow and I only expect things to get worse to the point that you would need to buy more and more powerful systems to keep that monster running at acceptable speed | Nov 16 17:10 |
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| psydroid | Chromebooks are selling better and better these days and with Lenovo's movement towards Linux preloads it looks like hardware vendors are growing wary of MS and Windows too | Nov 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | [17:06] <MinceR> contradiction in terms | Nov 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | he made American Great Again | Nov 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | by untaxing the rich | Nov 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | who were already largely untaxed | Nov 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | SJW = fake populism | Nov 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | often leveraged by the most privileged people | Nov 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | not the ones who riot and actually scare the crap out of the rich | Nov 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | and cause them to >actually< make some concessions in exchange for peace/calm/biz as usual | Nov 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | fake population = we'll take away words | Nov 16 17:13 |
| MinceR | SJW = trendy bigotry | Nov 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | done | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | no bad words | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | go back to work, lads | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | (and gals... not many of you... except in our marketing brochure) | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | (in the "Diversity" and "Recruitment" section) | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | For the PR "checklist" | Nov 16 17:14 |
| MinceR | did you just assume their genders? | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | these days you can't even name gender and pronouns | Nov 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Reverse racism is just racism. | Nov 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | you might accidentally offend someone | Nov 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It still fosters resentment, and that's part of why Trump got elected. | Nov 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/New_buffer_2:2 | Nov 16 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New buffer 2:2 - Techrights | Nov 16 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | "Newspeak contains no negative terms. For example, the only way to express the meaning of 'bad' is through the word 'ungood.' Something extremely bad is called 'doubleplus ungood.'" " | Nov 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | We need ungendered language with no negative works | Nov 16 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess Biden will try to unwind the decisions to give white and black people equal access to higher education if they have equal test scores. | Nov 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | "not good" would be as negative as it gets ;-) | Nov 16 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course Garrett is one of those pussies who says that they make the tests impossible for black people, which is racist because he would then be asserting that black people are incapable of studying for a test and that the standard should be lowered for them. | Nov 16 17:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is how we got here in the first place. | Nov 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Trump is 'doubleplus ungood.' | Nov 16 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When you ask them an example of a racist SAT question, they go "Well, how the fuck is a black person supposed to know the meaning of that word?" and they say a word and I'm like "I don't fucking know that word! I need 'affirmative action' apparently. Who knew?'". | Nov 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | customising tests and standards for different groups is not helping | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | because the customisation process itself make offensive presumptions | Nov 16 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But their question implies that black people are dumber than white people and the test needs to be watered down. | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | if you lower the bar in recruitment of women... | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | what does that say? | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | about you and the company? | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | that you presume women are less abled thinkers | Nov 16 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though I'm white and you get me in there and I wouldn't get that question right either, and you know, totally because I'm black oh wait I'm not. :/ | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | women aren't stupid and they can see this | Nov 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | it offends and can cause resentment | Nov 16 17:20 |
| vZS1 | Don't forget about swap space. It comes in handy when you want to compile things but don't have enough RAM. | Nov 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | if you're a disabled athletes you know your limitations | Nov 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | and they are visible | Nov 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | for women, nothing is visible | Nov 16 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | English is littered with words that almost nobody uses. | Nov 16 17:20 |
| vZS1 | I'm actually thinking of plugging in a USB stick into my Pi as dedicated swap space module. Should help when RAM gets scarce | Nov 16 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not even the people that make these tests use those words. | Nov 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | and balancing the scales artificially means you subscribe into the theory of "lesser women brains" | Nov 16 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's elitism and pretty much nothing else. | Nov 16 17:21 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i've seen Red Hat employees actually insist that they're woke for saying that women are unable to take criticism | Nov 16 17:21 |
| CrystalMath | seriously | Nov 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: he doesn't compile anything | Nov 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | just posting | Nov 16 17:21 |
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| CrystalMath | this was on some reddit IBM "AMA" | Nov 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | listening to some Pet Shop Boys, using IRC, Web browser | Nov 16 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Women can't stand criticism and black people and women are stupid. See how progressive I am? | Nov 16 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Give me a job at Red Hat. | Nov 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | says he's buy no laptop with <16gb of ram | Nov 16 17:22 |
| vZS1 | Every for running daemons, it's a bit slow but at least you can operate. | Nov 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat employs few women | Nov 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | they allocate them to non-tech roles | Nov 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even Elon Musk doesn't have a hard requirement for any sort of college degree. | Nov 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | and they boast selectively about those depts | Nov 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Said so, anyway. | Nov 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | like marketing | Nov 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So much of what college has turned into are years and years of things that make absolutely no sense in the real world just to run up the meter. | Nov 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | this also means women a red aht get the low-paying jobs | Nov 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | but they don't like to measure those things | Nov 16 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know? Like a quarter of your studies now are just absolute bullshit designed to run up the bill. | Nov 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | makes IBM look bad and dishonest | Nov 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | imagine testosterone-run companies employing lots of female maids, paying them barely minimum wage | Nov 16 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they can soak every person that goes there, to a state college, for another $20,000, that turns into real money. | Nov 16 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's what they do. | Nov 16 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why it's gotten completely out of control and the only way to win is to not play. | Nov 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | [17:23] <DaemonFC[m]> Even Elon Musk doesn't have a hard requirement for any sort of college degree. | Nov 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Liar and frraud | Nov 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | like Larrison | Nov 16 17:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also why our country is breaking down and is top heavy with idiots who can't get a job. | Nov 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | *keep | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | that's different | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | oppressibe work environments shock people | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | some would rather be poor | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know what makes me think "Progressive"? A company full of white men pontificating about how dumb and incapable those women and blacks are. | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (Red Hat) | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | than oppressed | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they go into the next stage of Progressive Politics. | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | like, in Europe many work strictly 9-5 | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | health coverage, leave etc. | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "But it's not their fault they're stupid. They must be abled in some way!" | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | and hard to fire them | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Perhaps we can have quotas!" | Nov 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | like in Norway | Nov 16 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You want to fix the fucking problem, you have to get rid of these administrators and student loan companies who are bilking people just for a chance. | Nov 16 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know? | Nov 16 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Quotas and condescension are never going to fix this. | Nov 16 17:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that's really what mjg59 is doing. That's what he stands for. | Nov 16 17:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 16/11/2020: OpenSUSE Board Election, MidnightBSD 2.0, LabPlot 2.8.1 • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/11/16/midnightbsd-2-0/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/efd02349-8c4e-415d-a034-c89813e331b4] | Nov 16 17:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bad enough that the average 4 year college education is now $60,000, but that's at 6% interest too, and it starts accruing, deferred, when the first payment goes out and you won't even be paying on it for years. | Nov 16 17:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So first, you get rid of the bureaucracy that is adding unnecessary cost and then you get rid of interest, or only charge an amount equal to inflation. | Nov 16 17:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also not helping that these colleges are showing preference to foreigners who they can bill more, who just take our skills and use them to compete with us. | Nov 16 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This foreign student thing was another one of Maricel's fucking ideas. | Nov 16 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I put an end to that, right quick, believe you me. | Nov 16 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's probably still over there ready to have an infarction over what I did to her "plans". Then she thought she could start the whole process over with Mandy's brother and use him as a house slave. | Nov 16 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the last thing I did on Facebook before I deleted my account was warn the guy what she did to Mandy and then he never even tried to come over here. | Nov 16 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These people who think very highly of themselves because they have a college degree never think anyone "lesser" than them will think more strategically, schestowitz | Nov 16 17:34 |
| schestowitz | I mostly agree with the latter thoughts | Nov 16 17:35 |
| schestowitz | I disagree with most of what you said about women | Nov 16 17:35 |
| schestowitz | myself and another admin think you overuse your gayness | Nov 16 17:35 |
| schestowitz | to abuse and bash women | Nov 16 17:35 |
| schestowitz | but about college scans I agree | Nov 16 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The reason I'm still here after last year was because I got into the mindset of "This is war and I'm outgunned and surrounded and, what do I do?". | Nov 16 17:35 |
| schestowitz | those are the fiscal aspects of scams | Nov 16 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I don't think women and black people are stupid, I was saying Red Hat does. | Nov 16 17:36 |
| scientes | schestowitz, if they only lived on-site then it would have some resiliance | Nov 16 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And so does mjg59. | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes diversity is used to amplify the scope and breath of scams | Nov 16 17:36 |
| scientes | but they removed many of the railroads in Europe | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | like patent litigation | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | as in, "We need more woman in patents" | Nov 16 17:36 |
| scientes | "American dream" | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | means, "let's give women lots of patents" | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | more litigation | Nov 16 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And instead of talking about the real problems they talk of schemes to put people who may well not be qualified, in power. | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | or more women lawyers, more lawsuits | Nov 16 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like Carly Fiorina. | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | it's not about women at all | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | it's about overcrowding courts | Nov 16 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe Red Hat can hire her. She's got lady parts. | Nov 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | military wants blacks | Nov 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | more cannon fodder | Nov 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | even less accountable to them | Nov 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | their families are poorer | Nov 16 17:37 |
| scientes | with all the border closures it is as if the EU doesn't exist | Nov 16 17:37 |
| scientes | that is a big blow to the patent scams | Nov 16 17:37 |
| scientes | beurocratic hell | Nov 16 17:37 |
| scientes | and also beurocratic attention-getting | Nov 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | [17:36] <DaemonFC[m]> And instead of talking about the real problems they talk of schemes to put people who may well not be qualified, in power. | Nov 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin | Nov 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2017/196/Interview-Meet-Jim-Zemlin | Nov 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | "JZ: When Covalent Technologies ended up being acquired by VMware, I kind of started having a midlife crisis. At that time I thought of becoming a chef, a professional rock climber… " | Nov 16 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Interview – Meet Jim Zemlin » Linux Magazine | Nov 16 17:38 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "military wants blacks"> Black and brown people. | Nov 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | then he became the boss of someone who ACTUALLY accomplished something | Nov 16 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no downside to war when it's not middle class whites being drafted. | Nov 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | and wiped Ballmer's arse to keep his job there | Nov 16 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nixon said it. | Nov 16 17:38 |
| scientes | Linux Magazine: Can you tell us a bit about your childhood and your exposure to computers? What kind of technical background do you have? | Nov 16 17:39 |
| scientes | Jim Zemlin: I have a very weak technical background. | Nov 16 17:39 |
| scientes | hahahahahahaha | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | that too | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | I quoted it before | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | he speaks of his grandpa | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | go reseach Cray | Nov 16 17:39 |
| scientes | whatever | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | his grandpa is never mentioned | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | overambitious claim | Nov 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe he was "friends" with the founder, and that's about all there was to it | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin is a big phat phony | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | > JZ: When Covalent Technologies ended up being acquired by VMware, I kind of started having a midlife crisis. At that time I thought of becoming a chef, a professional rock climber… But I really got intrigued by the open source community. I got involved with the idea of creating a standardized way to run applications across the variety of different Linux distributions. That was sort of a response to fragmentation in Unix. That led me t | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | o working on the Linux Foundation by essentially consolidating a lot of different open source organizations into what the modern Linux Foundation is. | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | but this is fine | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | PR doesn't require technical excellence | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | it doesn't have to be LWN | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | it becomes politics | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | corporate politics | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | money-raising | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | "yes, please" | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft? YUS!! | Nov 16 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Gimme | Nov 16 17:40 |
| scientes | well yeah that is problematic | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "OK, we'll put that project in ShitHub" | Nov 16 17:41 |
| scientes | so I guess you are right | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "YUS, MOAR $" | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "I'm so good at this!" | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/ | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | http:/techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/ | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/ | Nov 16 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Exceeds $100,000,000 in Revenue and Jim Zemlin Now Pays Himself About a Million Dollars a Year While ‘His’ Foundation Operates at a Loss of $732,261 | Techrights | Nov 16 17:41 | |
| scientes | when it compromised the community philosophy | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | when mozilla decides you don't need http anymore | Nov 16 17:41 |
| scientes | but I am not sure it is doing that | Nov 16 17:41 |
| schestowitz | and 'helps' you by culling it | Nov 16 17:41 |
| scientes | Linux Foundation is basically where projects go that have no maintainer | Nov 16 17:41 |
| scientes | including Linux itsself | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | "open source has won" -> http has won | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | monopoly has won | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | GAFAMazon | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | GitHubZone | Nov 16 17:42 |
| scientes | Torvalds ended up with LF because he didn't want to seem biased to any company | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | showing people "http" might make them think there MIGHT be an alternative ;0-) | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | like IPFS | Nov 16 17:42 |
| scientes | and then Grek Kroah-Hartman, that does the work of 10 people, ended up in LF cause he can get more work done without a boss | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Grek | Nov 16 17:42 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a burp | Nov 16 17:43 |
| schestowitz | or a grunt | Nov 16 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom asked what those 4 extra numbers are past a ZIP code. I had to explain what ZIP +4 are and that it's not new. | Nov 16 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It gets your mail there a bit faster with less sorting and so it reduces the chance of a misdelivered letter or package. | Nov 16 17:44 |
| schestowitz | checksum | Nov 16 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But most people have no idea what they are. They never caught on because they're unique to a particular house or building or floor of a building. | Nov 16 17:44 |
| schestowitz | dejoy, oh joy | Nov 16 17:44 |
| schestowitz | two weeks to deliver a ballot | Nov 16 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With PO Boxes it's easy, usually. | Nov 16 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most likely the last digits of a PO Box or the last 4 digits, but you can look up any address on the post office website. | Nov 16 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like for mine, you use 1084 because it's box 1084. | Nov 16 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But with the apartment I live in, all of the ones on the first floor and even numbers have the same code. | Nov 16 17:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They broke it up into first and second floor for the first 2 and evens and odds for the last 2. | Nov 16 17:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So most people don't even try to figure it out or mess with it. | Nov 16 17:46 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144427 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c03718fe-d822-4e46-a439-a50c06372d5e] | Nov 16 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: but they know how to vote Trump | Nov 16 17:55 |
| schestowitz | to 'own the libs' | Nov 16 17:56 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/qk9cofR.jpg | Nov 16 17:57 |
| schestowitz | he shot 'er | Nov 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | mfer! | Nov 16 18:00 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MidnightBSD 2.0 Released: A FreeBSD-Derived OS For Desktop Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144396#comment-27157 [https://pleroma.site/objects/05ea11fe-fa67-47c9-9b23-c8a152c9a970] | Nov 16 18:13 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699537.jpg | Nov 16 18:14 |
| schestowitz | it did get worse over time | Nov 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz | the logo staff needs to be kept busy | Nov 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz | somehow | Nov 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz | google is paying | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | the "ux" team is busy removing "xu" (xul | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | because "ux" | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | "for the user" | Nov 16 18:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | "XUL" is "confusing" | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | btw | Nov 16 18:18 |
| schestowitz | they did rename ux | Nov 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | days ago | Nov 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | wait, let me find it | Nov 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2020/11/were-changing-our-name-to-content-design/ | Nov 16 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | We’re Changing Our Name to Content Design – Firefox UX | Nov 16 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | "CONTENT design" | Nov 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | "content" | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | we have "content" | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | to generate | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | and the "consume" | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | *then | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | they hire from Microsoft | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | for "HEY HI" | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http:/techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ | Nov 16 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ | Nov 16 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozilla’s Board | Techrights | Nov 16 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | firefox "ux" | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | removing http:// for me | Nov 16 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: for; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// for ) | Nov 16 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | because they lost to Chrome because "not enougn HEY HI" | Nov 16 18:21 |
| MinceR | lol @ content | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Now they hire "ALL THE HEY HI'S" | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | from MICROSOFT :-) | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla back on track now | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | with their new HEY HI talent inflow | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | from Microsoft | Nov 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | diversity will save firefox | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | and BLM also | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | because BLM is all about browsers | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | people committed arson | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | to show flaming foxes | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | and "spread Firefox" | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | They literally put "BLM" in new Firefox tabs | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | for everyone | Nov 16 18:22 |
| MinceR | browser lives matter? | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I could not see how it was remotely connected or even necessary | Nov 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | and that's where it hit me... and when I realise Mozilla is dead | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | and thinks those social causes will help a defunct UX without XUL | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | a a browser with no useful extensions anymore | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Because "YOU AYE | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Sorry | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | "CONTENT design" | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I am staying with Firefox after 16 years | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | for all the "CONTENT design" | Nov 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | whatever that bloody means | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | "CONTENT design" | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | They redesign the pages they renders? | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | *render | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | if not, design of what? | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | They already removed a proper menu | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | put a hamburger menu | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | now it doesn't even cascade tight | Nov 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | you cannot see level 1 item when you enter level 2 | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | but | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | it ANIMATED | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | it ANIMATES | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | the menu is useless and animated | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | like the SLAB menu in KDE | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | made by/for SUSE | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | "CONTENT design" | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's what it means | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | menus in motion | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | with a burger instead of a menu | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | because mobile | Nov 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | the desktop is like mobile you pinch... that's :-) "CONTENT design" ..! Badabum! :-) | Nov 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | heh https://www.makeuseof.com/difference-between-ui-and-ux-design/ | Nov 16 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Is the Difference Between UI and UX Design? | MakeUseOf | Nov 16 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | just not in my RSS feeds | Nov 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | secs ago | Nov 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | two overhyped buzzwords | Nov 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | from people who spell experience "Xperience" | Nov 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | for the X factor | Nov 16 18:27 |
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| vZS1 | Btw | Nov 16 18:32 |
| vZS1 | It's not a coincidence a lot of things look life mobile | Nov 16 18:32 |
| schestowitz | it's cheaper | Nov 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | to develop | Nov 16 18:33 |
| vZS1 | Cross-platform front end frameworks | Nov 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | one product, let the desktop users struggle and lose worklow advantage | Nov 16 18:33 |
| vZS1 | Means they hire less people | Nov 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | also fewer options to develop and debug | Nov 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | because "UX" (it means, users are dumb, take away features from them!) | Nov 16 18:33 |
| vZS1 | Aggressive cost cutting | Nov 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | yup | Nov 16 18:34 |
| vZS1 | I noticed my main bank do this | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | and outsourcing too while at it | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | bank 'apps' | Nov 16 18:34 |
| vZS1 | The desktop website is terrible | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | based on shared frameowkr | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "add logo here" | Nov 16 18:34 |
| vZS1 | It used to be really good | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | they get worse | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | and it's "cloud" | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | so you don't get to reject "upgrades" | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | same with MyHermes | Nov 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | and many sites that do commerce | Nov 16 18:35 |
| vZS1 | Now it's perishing because of the mobile focus | Nov 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | the GUIs change in corrosive ways | Nov 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | but it's not for you, it's for them | Nov 16 18:35 |
| vZS1 | That's pretty much the point | Nov 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Techrights never did "mobile-friendly" | Nov 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | let me show you a visual example | Nov 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/05/dumber-is-better/ | Nov 16 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Technological Progress? Only If We Assume The Wrong Things… | Techrights | Nov 16 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | it's visual, take a lool | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | *look | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | and lol later | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Watch EFF site | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | the example in the middle | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | you could get lots of navigation and info before | Nov 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | now it's as useless as a 5-inch mobile screen, the width of a few fat fingers | Nov 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | this is leading to Web fatigue | Nov 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | we need to create alternatives | Nov 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | no JS and bloat | Nov 16 18:37 |
| vZS1 | I had a read | Nov 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | just signal and good use of screen space | Nov 16 18:37 |
| vZS1 | Sums it up pretty well | Nov 16 18:38 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Nov 16 18:38 |
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| vZS1 | I've also noticed that a lot of stuff spams Dbus now | Nov 16 18:40 |
| vZS1 | You get notifications on desktop | Nov 16 18:41 |
| vZS1 | Which is strange | Nov 16 18:41 |
| vZS1 | I never asked for any of that | Nov 16 18:41 |
| vZS1 | Need to turn that off. Just remembered. | Nov 16 18:41 |
| schestowitz | like which ones...? | Nov 16 18:43 |
| schestowitz | They've existed for a while | Nov 16 18:43 |
| schestowitz | for some just don't permit adding them | Nov 16 18:43 |
| schestowitz | I code my own notifications | Nov 16 18:44 |
| schestowitz | for my own needs | Nov 16 18:44 |
| schestowitz | knotify with arguments | Nov 16 18:44 |
| vZS1 | awesome wm | Nov 16 18:44 |
| schestowitz | can you not disable/block them? | Nov 16 18:44 |
| vZS1 | I think I can | Nov 16 18:44 |
| vZS1 | Just need to check the config file | Nov 16 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | sometimes notifications can cause you to click on the wrong thing | Nov 16 18:45 |
| vZS1 | Yep | Nov 16 18:45 |
| schestowitz | it's that symptom of guis that change under your finger | Nov 16 18:45 |
| vZS1 | Chrome is the main culprit | Nov 16 18:45 |
| vZS1 | I'll just mute all chrome notifications | Nov 16 18:45 |
| schestowitz | you got infected with chrome? | Nov 16 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I can find you a howto on how to remove it | Nov 16 18:45 |
| vZS1 | I have all the browsers | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | most browsers are malware | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | proprietary, too | Nov 16 18:46 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | so installing all of them is a Bad Idea | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | for Edge you might even add Microsoft PPA | Nov 16 18:46 |
| vZS1 | I don't have edge | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | so they can remotely modify lots of stuff on your machine | Nov 16 18:46 |
| schestowitz | the closest I get to chrome is falkon | Nov 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | which uses blink, iirc | Nov 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | all the others are proprietary | Nov 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | brave also, partly | Nov 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz | and it's on shithub | Nov 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz | vivaldi, opera, chrome, edge... all proprietary | Nov 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz | GNOME's epiphany might be OK | Nov 16 18:49 |
| schestowitz | but... you know... GNOME cough cough | Nov 16 18:49 |
| vZS1 | I use Tor browser and Firefox | Nov 16 18:50 |
| vZS1 | Those are the main two for my daily stuff | Nov 16 18:50 |
| vZS1 | I don't like GNOME anything | Nov 16 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2020/11/15/google-chrome-update-gets-serious-homeland-security-cisa-confirms-attacks-underway/?sh=21f497441f08 | Nov 16 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Google Chrome Update Gets Serious: Homeland Security (CISA) Confirms Attacks Underway | Nov 16 18:53 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699172.jpg | Nov 16 18:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19458229 | Nov 16 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LastPass is #ProprietarySoftware with deep #Surveillance so when you feed passwords to it you're already compromised, and not just by #NSA (no sane person/company should use it.. without someone getting sacked!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiywIEvkWgY | Nov 16 18:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Leaving LastPass and Adopting Another Password Manager - YouTube | Nov 16 18:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/t6n9b0.jpg | Nov 16 19:02 |
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| XRevan86 | https://xmppshare.meowr.ru/7018dab47d96f0125923921d7e7b834efc33c532/l3iKtsXcg5FCm14hqbNJZwnjjX39gp1D5M9E0doE/Screenshot_2020-11-16-22-22-13.png | Nov 16 19:23 |
| XRevan86 | At least some of those "Tux Machines" render on Android %). | Nov 16 19:23 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699158.jpg | Nov 16 19:23 |
| XRevan86 | Except this is not *how* they should render, but it's *a* render. | Nov 16 19:24 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: what's Android %%)) ;-) | Nov 16 19:24 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: An operating system that struggles with them fancy unicode blocks that you use %). | Nov 16 19:25 |
| schestowitz | it's too advanced ;-) | Nov 16 19:25 |
| schestowitz | too many bytes | Nov 16 19:25 |
| MinceR | another one bytes the dust | Nov 16 19:26 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fosslife.org/google-defines-policy-more-inclusive-language | Nov 16 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Google Defines Policy for More Inclusive Language | Nov 16 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | "According to the blog post, the terms “slave,” “whitelist,” and “blacklist” will be replaced with more inclusive alternatives, such as “replica,” “allowlist,” and “blocklist.” The policy applies now to new projects dating from October 2020, and the Google OSPO intends to enforce the changes on more complex, established projects beginning in 2021. " | Nov 16 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Google: will kill people with the Pentagon, usually dark-skinned people, but the word "blacklist" is RACIST. https://www.fosslife.org/google-defines-policy-more-inclusive-language | Nov 16 19:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 19:29 |
| MinceR | those were only brown people anyway | Nov 16 19:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ | Nov 16 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away People’s Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb ‘in Peace’) | Techrights | Nov 16 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | greylisting, MinceR | Nov 16 19:29 |
| schestowitz | they're grey people | Nov 16 19:29 |
| scientes | MinceR, nice switcheroo | Nov 16 19:29 |
| scientes | schestowitz, <=== people who control language tolerant people ==============> | Nov 16 19:29 |
| scientes | > Corporations Taking Away People’s Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb ‘in Peace’ | Nov 16 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | soon: inclist, exclist | Nov 16 19:29 |
| scientes | that cuts the bullSHIT doesn't it? | Nov 16 19:30 |
| schestowitz | [19:29] <XRevan86> soon: inclist, exclist | Nov 16 19:30 |
| schestowitz | incest? | Nov 16 19:30 |
| schestowitz | incel? | Nov 16 19:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 16 19:30 |
| MinceR | incel inside | Nov 16 19:31 |
| XRevan86 | inclusive list, exclusive list | Nov 16 19:31 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel | Nov 16 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Incel - Wikipedia | Nov 16 19:31 | |
| XRevan86 | (inclusion list, exclusion list rather) | Nov 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | those things are getting boring | Nov 16 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I won't even write about it anymore | Nov 16 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I think there's consensus | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | at least based on COMMENTS | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | liek the ones in Phoronix | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | almost everyone agrees, and not with those companies | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I don't like the term "virtue signaling" | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | but those charm offensives would be textbook definition of it | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | because they have no virtue at all | Nov 16 19:35 |
| schestowitz | IBM, Microsoft, Google.. | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | how are they virturious? | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | And Intel? | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | What have they done for humanity? | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | they overcompensate with pure BS | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | and pretend to have feelings | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | and empathy | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | for humans it's understadable | Nov 16 19:36 |
| schestowitz | not for companies that tell us they're worth a trillion bucks | Nov 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | and spy on us | Nov 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | By overdoing it they kill the original causes | Nov 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | see, | Nov 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | if a black man told me not to say "blacklist" | Nov 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | or a woman I work with asked to not say "man hours" | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | I'd understand | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | apologise | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | change my communication accordingly | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | but when IBM/Intel/Microsoft/Google do this? | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | I laugh them off | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | who are THEY to monopolise morality | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and so they kill the original causes | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and cause people to have spite | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | like they do with antiwar movement, FS etc. | Nov 16 19:38 |
| schestowitz | they hijack and dilute support for social justice people as well | Nov 16 19:39 |
| schestowitz | by utilising them to overthrow people | Nov 16 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Then the real victims are presumed "corporate tools" | Nov 16 19:39 |
| schestowitz | and Green party voters are called "elitists" | Nov 16 19:39 |
| schestowitz | (Tom told me that) | Nov 16 19:39 |
| schestowitz | or "trolls" | Nov 16 19:40 |
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| XRevan86 | Hm, I left Noto Sans Symbols in tact, it seems it's the font that has these blocks. | Nov 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz | as a side note | Nov 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz | [19:37] <schestowitz> if a black man told me not to say "blacklist"\ | Nov 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz | This is unlikely to happen | Nov 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz | blacks are not THAT sensitive | Nov 16 19:43 |
| schestowitz | [19:38] <schestowitz> or a woman I work with asked to not say "man hours" | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I never met people who use that term anyway | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's garage talk | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | not tech talk | Nov 16 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | What does "man hours" mean? | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | and in garage few women work because of the requirements of the job | Nov 16 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | "is the amount of work performed by the average worker in one hour" – got it | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: like, this job will take about "4 manhours, should cost about 100 bucks" | Nov 16 19:44 |
| schestowitz | manual work hours | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | think of it as manual labour | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | mano means hand on french iirc | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | no connection to gender | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | but "man" does refer to man here | Nov 16 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | womanual work hours | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | so pretend it refers to hand labour | Nov 16 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | (that was a bad joke, I know) | Nov 16 19:45 |
| schestowitz | "huwoman hours" | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | because I'm told human is also biased | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | it has the dirty word "man" in it | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | like the gnu command | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | for MANUAL | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | manual maybe needs renaming too | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | just in case | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | alias woman=man | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | in .bashrc | Nov 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | job for red hat | Nov 16 19:47 |
| schestowitz | recall "all the fedoras" | Nov 16 19:47 |
| schestowitz | redistribute back | Nov 16 19:47 |
| *schestowitz aware the manpages project too would need to change loads of code accordingly, then test | Nov 16 19:48 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: For a noble cause it's worth it. | Nov 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | then get ready for ladies to flock in | Nov 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | and give tons of patches for the personpages project | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | in Microsoft ShitHub | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: it is | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | but women will still be assigned shitty jobs | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | by male bosses | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | at least the command line won't be offensive | Nov 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and when they git commit they won't worry about git being an insult or master being a black person's "owner" | Nov 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | wait till they meet fork bomb | Nov 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | the mental image itself causes trauma | Nov 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | sounds like IED | Nov 16 19:51 |
| schestowitz | with forks inside it, to increase casualties | Nov 16 19:51 |
| schestowitz | instead of nails and bearing balls | Nov 16 19:51 |
| *psydroid suggests the masterbaiter project in order to deal with all the unpleasant things persons have to deal with in their lives | Nov 16 19:52 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Nov 16 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | DOOM.EXE has a masterbaiter | Nov 16 20:01 |
| schestowitz | choosing which gallon of milk to pick | Nov 16 20:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Maybe thee Coca Cola ultra filtered milk that costs 5 times as much. | Nov 16 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Can you believe there are idiots that buy things like that? | Nov 16 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.today.com/food/fairlife-dairy-still-under-fire-over-alleged-animal-abuse-t156127 | Nov 16 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.today.com | Fairlife Dairy still under fire over alleged animal abuse after new viral video | Nov 16 20:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | No headline mention of Coca Cola anywhere | Nov 16 20:46 |
| vZS1 | A lot of man pages get left out these days | Nov 16 20:48 |
| vZS1 | And get this | Nov 16 20:48 |
| vZS1 | They call it the | Nov 16 20:48 |
| vZS1 | "Linux man pages project" | Nov 16 20:48 |
| vZS1 | Even when a lot of the stuff is GNU tools | Nov 16 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do think we need to pass a farm animal bill of rights of some sort. | Nov 16 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a difference between humane animal agriculture and just abusing them and causing them pain for no reason. | Nov 16 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't see anything wrong with eating meat and dairy products, but "breaking a cow's tail and hitting it with metal poles" because it "wasn't cooperating". Fuck. | Nov 16 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck these people. Fuck Coca Cola. | Nov 16 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People who abuse animals are quite often serial killers and domestic abusers as well. So like, if they're doing that to a dairy cow, what are they doing outside of work? | Nov 16 20:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana has a lot of problems, but it has severe punishment for animal abuse. | Nov 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz | [20:49] <vZS1> Even when a lot of the stuff is GNU tools | Nov 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz | if you scroll all the way down | Nov 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz | many have RMS in them | Nov 16 20:52 |
| schestowitz | he wrote some of the very key programs | Nov 16 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can spend almost as much time in prison for torturing an animal to death as you can for voluntary manslaughter in Indiana. | Nov 16 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois too. | Nov 16 20:53 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ | Nov 16 20:53 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ | Nov 16 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Programs Aren’t “Linux Commands” But GNU Programs | Techrights | Nov 16 20:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Some people got angry that so many black people in Illinois are getting long prison sentences after we passed a law similar to Florida's use a gun and you're done. | Nov 16 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Stop pointing guns at people. Yes, very racist, a system that makes it a minimum 7 years to point a loaded gun at someone without justification. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unfortunately, it passed after that guy mugged me. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He got two years house arrest. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When the ballot question of "Should there be a minimum of 5-7 for pointing a gun without justification?" got to me, I voted yes without giving it another thought. | Nov 16 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These damned judges and prosecutors were ramming these cases through to get it off their desks. | Nov 16 20:57 |
| vZS1 | The thing is. With the tools that are non-gnu, you don't even get the high quality info docs | Nov 16 21:05 |
| vZS1 | Git is an exception | Nov 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1328435911546302466 | Nov 16 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Judges at the EPO (Boards of Appeal) Can Still be Punished for Ruling ‘Unfavourably’ on Patent Maximalism #law… https://t.co/4Sn9mkVZkM | Nov 16 21:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Judges at the EPO (Boards of Appeal) Can Still be Punished for Ruling ‘Unfavourably’ on Patent Maximalism #law… https://t.co/4Sn9mkVZkM | Nov 16 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Judges at the EPO (Boards of Appeal) Can Still be Punished for Ruling ‘Unfavourably’ on Patent Maximalism #law #patents #Europe" | Nov 16 21:06 |
| vZS1 | A lot of the new stuff doesn't have documentation that you can easily read on the terminal offline | Nov 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it's not just this company that abuses animals | Nov 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | I still feel guilty for buying cheese | Nov 16 21:06 |
| vZS1 | I despise all this docbook nonsense | Nov 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | and we try to use soy drinks, not milk | Nov 16 21:06 |
| vZS1 | #saveinfodocs | Nov 16 21:08 |
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| kingoffrance | vZS1, its because "online" got 1984ed. it used to mean on this lan, or accessible to this system, or on cd-rom even. now it means 24/7 internet connection you can read stuff. internet and tcp/ip are perhaps THE net now, instead of a network of networks. | Nov 16 21:13 |
| kingoffrance | so, the old stuff was "online docs" you could read in a terminal, it was the word "online" that got 1984ed | Nov 16 21:13 |
| vZS1 | I see | Nov 16 21:14 |
| kingoffrance | im just saying it goes deeper :) | Nov 16 21:14 |
| vZS1 | Hey. I'm all about learning | Nov 16 21:14 |
| kingoffrance | i dont know if that was universal, but old stuff you can see "online documentation" meant that usage | Nov 16 21:15 |
| kingoffrance | i think the old definition was generic shorthand for "not dead tree books" didnt necessarily indicate where it was located necessarily (what network or media), just meant "in digital form" | Nov 16 21:18 |
| kingoffrance | so "offline" then would be dead tree manuals | Nov 16 21:18 |
| vZS1 | The GNU info docs actually care about the user and tries to educate them about not just the tool but how it fits in to the entire system. Linux manual pages are a ripoff. They're cryptic, hide a lot of undocumented stuff, and generally don't care about educating the user. | Nov 16 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, somehow milk got turned political too. | Nov 16 21:19 |
| vZS1 | I've had to dive into the source code a lot of the time, in an attempt to figure out how a lot of these "Linux" utils work | Nov 16 21:20 |
| vZS1 | And how is that helping the user. What if they can't program | Nov 16 21:21 |
| vZS1 | Git is the one exception to all this. The Git info documentation is pretty decent | Nov 16 21:21 |
| vZS1 | kingoffrance: I guess back then offline documentation was still practical to print. You probably had to deal a lot less with behemoths like systemd | Nov 16 21:23 |
| vZS1 | I've noticed this trend of shitty documentation a lot. | Nov 16 21:24 |
| vZS1 | Go projects are pretty notorious for this as well | Nov 16 21:24 |
| vZS1 | They generate "documentation" from source code and comments. | Nov 16 21:25 |
| vZS1 | That's not documentation | Nov 16 21:25 |
| vZS1 | That's just commented source code | Nov 16 21:25 |
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| vZS1 | With some beautified HTML | Nov 16 21:25 |
| vZS1 | I feel like the word "documentation" also got 1984ed | Nov 16 21:26 |
| vZS1 | There's also a lack of good books available. | Nov 16 21:27 |
| vZS1 | Back in the UNIX days and I guess early GNU days, there were so many great books available | Nov 16 21:28 |
| MinceR | the information in books might get obsolete too quickly :> | Nov 16 21:30 |
| vZS1 | I don't mind that | Nov 16 21:30 |
| vZS1 | I'll just buy the next book | Nov 16 21:30 |
| vZS1 | And programming is always evolving | Nov 16 21:31 |
| vZS1 | Just like utilities and operating systems | Nov 16 21:31 |
| MinceR | in reverse? :> | Nov 16 21:31 |
| vZS1 | Lol | Nov 16 21:32 |
| vZS1 | Take a look at the Documentation tree in the Linux Git repo | Nov 16 21:38 |
| vZS1 | It's basically notes for the developers....... | Nov 16 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, somehow milk got turned political too. | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | political? not sure | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I did not see a politician pushing to vote him/her based on milk | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | but it might happen in the future | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | covid got politicised | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | though it boils down to science | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | and we should not ask politicians about it | Nov 16 21:40 |
| schestowitz | milk is about animal rights | Nov 16 21:41 |
| schestowitz | those that produce milk eventually kill those cows too | Nov 16 21:41 |
| schestowitz | when they're no longer "useful" or "profitable" for their teats | Nov 16 21:41 |
| schestowitz | we've just changed, together, all the water in the fishtank | Nov 16 21:41 |
| vZS1 | Have a quick look at Documentation/filesystem/proc.rst | Nov 16 21:42 |
| schestowitz | we're not ready for veganism | Nov 16 21:42 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: more epo articles coming soon | Nov 16 21:42 |
| schestowitz | read a lot by epo staff | Nov 16 21:42 |
| vZS1 | SuSE plug, at the start | Nov 16 21:43 |
| vZS1 | "We don't guarantee the correctness of this document, and if you come to us complaining about how you screwed up your system because of incorrect documentation, we won't feel responsible..." | Nov 16 21:45 |
| vZS1 | Can't make this shit up | Nov 16 21:45 |
| vZS1 | > schestowitz: read a lot by epo staff | Nov 16 21:46 |
| vZS1 | Good | Nov 16 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/elon-musk-coronavirus-spacex-launch-covid-b1723556.html | Nov 16 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Elon Musk forced to watch historic SpaceX launch from home and mocked as ‘Space Karen’ after catching Covid | The Independent | Nov 16 21:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Mr Musk had previously questioned the legitimacy of the results." | Nov 16 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Space Trump | Nov 16 21:54 |
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| vZS1 | Emperor Elon | Nov 16 21:58 |
| schestowitz | mooching taxpayers | Nov 16 21:58 |
| schestowitz | a symptom of how the economy "works" | Nov 16 21:58 |
| schestowitz | 27 trillion national debt | Nov 16 21:58 |
| schestowitz | US billionaire alone at total wealth of 15 trillion and growing | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | gov prints more cash | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | borrowings from liabilities of the yet-unborn | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | and that money ends up in offshore bank accounts of these corporation and oligarchs who pay no tax | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | but keep voting | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | vote Biden | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | yeah, he'll fix all this shit... sure | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | for the people who sponsored his campaign like they do Trump's | Nov 16 21:59 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 | Nov 16 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters | Nov 16 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | Musk joined "the club" | Nov 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | the moochers' club | Nov 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | connections and lots of facial and scalp "work" | Nov 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | The actual African Michael Jackson | Nov 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | grifter | Nov 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: want to read the article? | Nov 16 22:01 |
| schestowitz | because it's distributed? | Nov 16 22:01 |
| vZS1 | I'm heading to bed. If it's in the bulletin, I'll read it as I have my morning tea | Nov 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | ok | Nov 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | we can figure it out | Nov 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I'm just proofreading | Nov 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | could use another pair of eyes | Nov 16 22:06 |
| schestowitz | maybe DaemonFC[m]? | Nov 16 22:06 |
| vZS1 | I'd not catch anything now. Eyes too tired | Nov 16 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/526171-trump-officials-preparing-to-move-forward-with-major-step-to-lower-medicare | Nov 16 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump officials preparing to move forward with major step to lower Medicare drug prices | TheHill | Nov 16 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right thing, wrong reasons. | Nov 16 22:15 |
| schestowitz | "Trump says" | Nov 16 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's taking revenge for not giving his campaign much money and supporting Biden. | Nov 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2020/11/03/deutsche-bank-eager-to-dump-340-million-in-loans-to-trump-businesses-after-election/ | Nov 16 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Report: Deutsche Bank ‘Eager’ To Dump $340 Million In Loans To Trump Businesses After Election | Nov 16 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it's going to be so far along in the process and so popular that Biden might just go ahead and let it take effect because try stopping that. | Nov 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: my next article is partly about thos | Nov 16 22:17 |
| schestowitz | wanna read? | Nov 16 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah | Nov 16 22:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/16/manufactured-hoax-in-study-veneer/ | Nov 16 22:17 |
| schestowitz | quick | Nov 16 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Patent Office Union (SUEPO) Reiterates Its Allegation, Backed by Professionals, That the Management is Crushing the Office and Its Staff Based on a Manufactured “Hoax” | Techrights | Nov 16 22:17 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | " implement his oppressive measured" | Nov 16 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | measures | Nov 16 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Only hours ago the EPO boasted" | Nov 16 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only hours ago, | Nov 16 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "aggressors and" | Nov 16 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | aggressors, and | Nov 16 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The EPO is so corrupt and rogue, so it’s" | Nov 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | fixedx3 | Nov 16 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would change it to "that it's". | Nov 16 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In this own words" | Nov 16 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In its own words"? | Nov 16 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | during a video conference on 16 November. | Nov 16 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Missing quotation mark at the end. | Nov 16 22:25 |
| schestowitz | fixed | Nov 16 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "we showed" | Nov 16 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | we've | Nov 16 22:26 |
| smnthermes | https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-youtube-dl-is-back/ | Nov 16 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.blog | Standing up for developers: youtube-dl is back - The GitHub Blog | Nov 16 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | (It's a nit.) | Nov 16 22:26 |
| smnthermes | wat | Nov 16 22:26 |
| smnthermes | Now they may not actually switch away from GitHub | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | changing to "we have shown" | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | idiots | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | after some moved to gitlab | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | but some damage was done | Nov 16 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These people must think the virus is overrated, just like Mr. Trump thinks… | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | this is "damage control" | Nov 16 22:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: "does" | Nov 16 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say, "These people must think the virus is overrated...just like Mr. Trump." | Nov 16 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Make the biting insult more immediate after a short pause to think. | Nov 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | right | Nov 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | done | Nov 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | rich people deny the severity | Nov 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | they have access to better care and drugs | Nov 16 22:28 |
| schestowitz | if they need these | Nov 16 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "There’s sometimes uniquely distressing when one witnesses a lie being told again and again, in spite of solid refutations." | Nov 16 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It's sometimes uniquely distressing" would read better. | Nov 16 22:30 |
| schestowitz | ack | Nov 16 22:30 |
| schestowitz | smnthermes: what about the google dmca takedown? | Nov 16 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, "pay freezes". | Nov 16 22:31 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/14/drm-loves-centralisation/ | Nov 16 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] DRM Loves Wintel/Microsoft/Centralisation/Monopoly | Techrights | Nov 16 22:31 | |
| smnthermes | Yeah | Nov 16 22:31 |
| schestowitz | it's just a lip service | Nov 16 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's done when the management wants to permanently tie the hands of their successors. | Nov 16 22:31 |
| schestowitz | to distort the historic record | Nov 16 22:31 |
| schestowitz | like they did Artic Vault when GitHub STAFF fled | Nov 16 22:32 |
| schestowitz | due to the ICE controversy | Nov 16 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As for Deutche Bank, even though the Democrats did not do extremely well in Congress this year.... | Nov 16 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden could still have his Attorney General investigate them, and so could MANY states that Trump has ties to. | Nov 16 22:33 |
| schestowitz | I'll quote you at the end | Nov 16 22:33 |
| schestowitz | re freezes | Nov 16 22:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: freeze military aid to germany ;-) | Nov 16 22:34 |
| schestowitz | until they 'cooperate' | Nov 16 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the wage and benefit freezes often affect future raises even if they're reinstated, because the COLAs are based on total pay, and if your pay didn't go up for several years, especially early during your career..... | Nov 16 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The next administration would have to go to the board and propose a huge budget to catch everyone up, and that's not something they want to do. | Nov 16 22:34 |
| schestowitz | well put | Nov 16 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump froze all civilian federal employees for a while and John was particularly upset. | Nov 16 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just keeps getting nastier every year. | Nov 16 22:36 |
| schestowitz | ok, refresh page | Nov 16 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Shared sacrifice." Frees up more money for Elon Musk and Bill Gates, with the "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act". | Nov 16 22:37 |
| schestowitz | see if your quotatios are OK | Nov 16 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Billionaire subsidies and blue collar layoffs act. | Nov 16 22:37 |
| schestowitz | tbh, you put it better than I could | Nov 16 22:38 |
| schestowitz | it's your countru | Nov 16 22:38 |
| schestowitz | *ry | Nov 16 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I honestly don't know what Biden can/will do. | Nov 16 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously some of it can be backed out. | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | little | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | symbolic | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | but Trump would crush on and on | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Biden might do it slowly | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | or retract just a bit | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | because "not Trump" | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | The Trump wrecking ball | Nov 16 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Trump was so ham fisted and sloppy that he got a lot of things a little bit wrong. | Nov 16 22:39 |
| schestowitz | versus the Biden steelball | Nov 16 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the courts threw it out and said try again, but now he won't have time. | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | even DACA | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | and a bunch of other stuff this past week | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | TikTok | Nov 16 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the courts reinstated DACA and didn't get to the merits of the program. | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | 1st amndement | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | all this noise for nothing | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | wait till china retaliates | Nov 16 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They just said that Chad Wolf was never legally serving as DHS secretary. | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | will block some US firms | Nov 16 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So all the stuff he did there is null and void. | Nov 16 22:40 |
| schestowitz | not likely Biden will appoint "folks" called "Chad" | Nov 16 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's still great news, don't get me wrong. It backs out dozens of regulations that he tried to put in and the administration has no time to go back and redo it. | Nov 16 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Means Biden can focus on other stuff. | Nov 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz | maybe he will reinstate protection for wolves | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | withdrawn just 2 weeks ago | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | same for paris accord | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | probably will asap | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe even iran deal, somehow... | Nov 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said we'll rejoin the Paris Accord. | Nov 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Much of the US is still in it because of state, county, and city laws. | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | it'll be fun to see 4 years of truck wreckage undone, BUT... | Nov 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it would obviously be more effective if the federal government rejoins it. | Nov 16 22:42 |
| schestowitz | with covid and lockdown nobody will notice | Nov 16 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://news.wttw.com/2019/01/23/gov-pritzker-signs-pact-committing-illinois-paris-climate-goals | Nov 16 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.wttw.com | Gov. Pritzker Signs Pact Committing Illinois to Paris Climate Goals | Chicago News | WTTW | Nov 16 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | good | Nov 16 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois can't sign treaties because Congress would have to approve it, but nothing stops it from putting in the requirements with state law and not technically agreeing to do it with anyone else. | Nov 16 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of funny, right? The states can't agree with each other to do this, but they can enact it into a state law after, you know, talking it over with each other. | Nov 16 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Put the rent check for December in the mail today. | Nov 16 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I know it's early and it's going to a PO Box at the same post office, but..... | Nov 16 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea what in the fuck is going on in there. | Nov 16 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And even though they still claim they can do first class mail within 4 days pretty much anywhere in the country, that's just not what I'm seeing. | Nov 16 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm seeing 6-9 days between postmark and into my mailbox and that's between Chicago and Waukegan. | Nov 16 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz, the landlord actually changed the lease when I pointed out how bad the post office was. | Nov 16 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It said, "The rent shall be considered paid on the date which it is received.". And he agreed to strike "received" and replace it with "postmarked". | Nov 16 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because sometimes they postmark it a day after you drop it in the collection box and then take 6-9 days to get it one city over. | Nov 16 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I told him "Normally, I try to drop the rent in no later than ten days before the 1st of the month.". The worst I'm seeing the post office do with first class mail these days is usually 6-9 days, but that ballot taking 14 days to get to me is just inexcusable. | Nov 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'm assuming that any particular piece of mail could take that long. | Nov 16 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I dropped the rent check in today. | Nov 16 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're fucking with people's lives. | Nov 16 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump sabotaged it to try to "win" by declaring that votes got there too late. | Nov 16 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it did permanent damage, and people are having their utilities cut off, their landlords going "OK, where's the rent?", they have to drive to the pharmacy and ask for an emergency supply of heart medicine. | Nov 16 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, they're fucking with people's lives. | Nov 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: you use cheques? | Nov 16 22:55 |
| schestowitz | I've not written one in so long | Nov 16 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Postal money order. | Nov 16 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only charge like $1.25 to write one out, and you can replace it if it gets lost in the mail, of course. | Nov 16 22:56 |
| schestowitz | ah, yes | Nov 16 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose I could go to Walmart and get one cheaper. | Nov 16 22:56 |
| schestowitz | I know that service | Nov 16 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm there to drop Mandy off a lot. | Nov 16 22:56 |
| schestowitz | should be faster though if not immediate | Nov 16 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the Western Union money orders are like 75 cents or something. | Nov 16 22:56 |
| schestowitz | money for nothing | Nov 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz | for "handling" | Nov 16 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: he told me I could pay with Zelle using my bank account. | Nov 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz | not even insurance | Nov 16 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used to do that with "Joy". | Nov 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz | why not bank standing order? | Nov 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz | no commission here | Nov 16 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ironically named evil bitch queen landlord in Chicago. | Nov 16 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Zelle is free. | Nov 16 22:57 |
| schestowitz | sounds French | Nov 16 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might ask him for the info. He said pay it to his wife's email. | Nov 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz | usps is all dodgy | Nov 16 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I just, for someone who loves technology I'm just really conservative when it comes to certain things. | Nov 16 22:58 |
| schestowitz | if trump already killed it, so be it, the credibility is dead for sure | Nov 16 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder what my bank does charge for a book of checks. | Nov 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz | departing gift from what MinceR calls cheeto hitler | Nov 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz | banks used to hand them away free with new accounts | Nov 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz | not anymore, iirc | Nov 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz | as few people use them by default | Nov 16 22:59 |
| schestowitz | today in aldi they played audio on how you should "please use touchless" | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | or "contactless" | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | or "card | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I always pay cash | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | they're acting a bit surprised when I do | Nov 16 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "PNC Bank uses Harland Clarke as its supplier for checks and accessories. Prices start at $19.56 for a pack of 80 safety blue checks. The cost is $39.12 for a pack of 160 checks, $58.68 for a pack of 240 checks, and $78.24 for a pack of 320 checks. Shipping takes about two weeks." | Nov 16 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, that's lovely. | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | but I only give fine notes, not coins | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | the coins go home to a jar | Nov 16 23:00 |
| schestowitz | wow, so expensive | Nov 16 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The only thing I wrote checks for was the rent. | Nov 16 23:01 |
| schestowitz | what are those sheets of paper made of, algae? | Nov 16 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I actually got them and then had 4-5 addresses ago on them. | Nov 16 23:01 |
| schestowitz | imagine getting those 320 sheets, then closing that bank account | Nov 16 23:01 |
| schestowitz | need to order them all over again | Nov 16 23:02 |
| MinceR | what happens to the coins in the jar? | Nov 16 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ouch. | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I think they just try to rip off "business owners" | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | aldi charged me 9 quid for a friggin electric splitter | Nov 16 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, because most people don't write enough checks to really bother using them. | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes get basic ones for a pound | Nov 16 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might make my next two rent payments with those two starter checks I still have. | Nov 16 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Get rid of them. | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | but they seem to be exploiting the fact all the non-essential shops are shut | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | so I took one anyway | Nov 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: fed to machines | Nov 16 23:03 |
| schestowitz | they count the coins, give the balance | Nov 16 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "A two-pack of Walmart blue secure checks, which has 300 checks total, is $14.92. You’ll pay $22.38 for three packs, which contain 450 checks. A four-pack with 600 checks is $29.84." | Nov 16 23:03 |
| schestowitz | the money is then withdrawn in paper, deposited elsewhere | Nov 16 23:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | not a good time to do it now with covid and all... I think we have like 20kg of coins already | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | a new record | Nov 16 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 300 checks should be more than enough. | Nov 16 23:04 |
| MinceR | lol @ 20kg | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | wait until a thief shows uo | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | I have a weapon | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | "Take this, mfer!" | Nov 16 23:04 |
| schestowitz | there was a scene like this in Seinfeld | Nov 16 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Kramer and his coins | Nov 16 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then again.... | Nov 16 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I order them from Walmart, I can take my 10% associate discount and the 5% from the credit card people | Nov 16 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 150 checks for $8.46. | Nov 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not bad. | Nov 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they have Star Trek TNG characters on them. :D | Nov 16 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There's upsides to money orders too. | Nov 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The money order was paid for up front so you don't have to account for it being "out there" at some point and maybe hitting your account with non-sufficient funds. | Nov 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My bank tried to talk me into signing up for a line of credit overdraft "protection" account, at credit card interest rates of course. | Nov 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the other option was "decline the transaction if it will overdraw the account". | Nov 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I chose that. | Nov 16 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: seriously? Star Trek? | Nov 16 23:13 |
| schestowitz | "you jooooking!" | Nov 16 23:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I know, I know. | Nov 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz | hollywood and banks overlap | Nov 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz | what next? | Nov 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz | xxx checques? | Nov 16 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I gave her a "blowjob cheque"... I guess this was the logical step after credit cards with crap on their face | Nov 16 23:15 |
| schestowitz | as if banks are individuality cards | Nov 16 23:15 |
| schestowitz | "look, look at my card.... it's all about ME" | Nov 16 23:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SMARC module runs Linux on up to octa-core Renesas RZ/G2 • 🅃🅄🅇 🄼🄰🄲🄷🄸🄽🄴🅂 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144437 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e1931a02-3bc7-4d86-a45e-7dbcab9a4c33] | Nov 16 23:19 | |
| kingoffrance | yeah you can pay for custom debit or credit logo like vanity plates | Nov 16 23:22 |
| kingoffrance | the more "personal" they try to make it, the less it is, i suspect | Nov 16 23:22 |
| kingoffrance | 'my computer' | Nov 16 23:22 |
| kingoffrance | you're not just a number, you can choose your logo too | Nov 16 23:23 |
| schestowitz | you can upload your photo to shithub | Nov 16 23:24 |
| schestowitz | to 'your'(IAA) account | Nov 16 23:25 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Sam Thursfield: Search Pinboard.in from GNOME Shell • 🅃🅄🅇 🄼🄰🄲🄷🄸🄽🄴🅂 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144438 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31485b8c-a527-4243-b0f8-ca306a81db16] | Nov 16 23:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just have our electric set to autopay. | Nov 16 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They wanted me to do budget billing, which is their term for level bills, but that ends up costing you more because you get in the mindset of bills that don't drastically go up or down each month and so you don't conserve power thinking "If I do this, it adds that much to the bill next month.". | Nov 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm wondering just how much these new laptops save in power. | Nov 16 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The new ones have a pc9 and pc10, but I'm guessing not a hell of a lot. | Nov 16 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd have to be almost totally idle to spend any time there and then the uEFI which mjg59 loves so much would just be so broken that you may never get there at all. | Nov 16 23:37 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #PinePhone #KDE Community Edition will run Plasma Mobile out-of-the-boxPinePhone KDE Community Edition will run Plasma Mobile out-of-the-box ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144384#comment-27161 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1882ca4e-4a60-41db-aa56-4555c4666716] | Nov 16 23:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even as he touts how great it would be if it actually worked at all, and wasn't sabotaged by Windows 10 even if the firmware miraculously wasn't that bad. | Nov 16 23:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Nov 16 23:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So comparing Linux power management to Windows, you have to account for some things, like the fact that Windows 10 is so broken that it's a gas guzzler, and that's if Microsoft doesn't brick it or the firmware completely with an update, and just how bad the firmware is likely to be to begin with. | Nov 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're probably not going to get past serious EFI bugs in the Linux kernel. You might. Who knows? Lenovo and whoever gave them this 100% pure shit firmware of mine in the Yoga have the Linux kernel complaining about bugs and workarounds for bugs the likes of which I never saw under Legacy BIOS. | Nov 16 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Torvalds repeatedly said as much. It was bad but it was a known factor and did what it had to do and the code for the BIOS ROMs and the kernel code to deal with it was pretty battle tested. | Nov 16 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They replaced something that basically worked with something that has been a decade long and sometimes hardware killing monstrosity. | Nov 16 23:42 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat: Red Hat as ’Community’ and PR Fluff, Watson (Proprietary) Promotion • 🅃🅄🅇 🄼🄰🄲🄷🄸🄽🄴🅂 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144439 [https://pleroma.site/objects/47a7a1b2-b1cf-439f-ad33-56c9df26135c] | Nov 16 23:43 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | mjg59is not allowed to criticize uEFI for a multitude of reasons regardless of how he really feels about it because (1) CoCs imposed by Red Hat, IBM, Microsoft, and Intel would mean he'd probably get fired for saying what the true state of uEFI really is and (2) he's so obnoxiously fake polite he might still not say anything even if it didn't mean shitting where he drew a paycheck. | Nov 16 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But uEFI is a total disaster and I may pay System76 for the pleasure of not dealing with a system using it ever again. | Nov 16 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On my system, STILL (regardless of if it's Windows 10 or Linux, because this is a firmware bug that Lenovo and Intel and the uEFI vendor never patched), about 1 boot out of 10 you can't get past pc3 anyway. | Nov 16 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could you put it in Legacy Mode? Sure, but then you just get more problems because the uEFI is still there causing every issue it was before, and then there's this shitty BIOS abstraction layer too. So, Intel is killing the CSM because, well, for obvious reasons. | Nov 16 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It makes uEFI even more terrible and no supported version of Windows doesn't know what uEFI is. | Nov 16 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I had to finally click unsubscribe from those Red Roof Inn emails. | Nov 16 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They asked how my stay from July 2019 to November 2020 was. | Nov 16 23:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I cannot, in good conscience, review them because it was pretty horrific other than that it was cheap and the staff at the hotel was nice. | Nov 16 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mom totally didn't get what was going on. She asked why I moved over there. I said, "I wasn't going to last long at that other place and maybe over here I'll live long enough to come up with a plan.". | Nov 16 23:51 |
| mjg59 | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U | Nov 16 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFI and Linux: the future is here, and it's awful - Matthew Garrett - YouTube | Nov 16 23:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | At one point, you basically said that Linux power management for my laptop chipset was garbage compared with Windows. | Nov 16 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even at the time, Windows was, overall, using at least 30% more power. | Nov 16 23:55 |
| mjg59 | Linux support for power management on the chipset was | Nov 16 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the same time refusing to acknowledge Intel for writing pointless specs and refusing to document them. | Nov 16 23:56 |
| mjg59 | Because Intel wouldn't tell us under what circumstances it was safe to enable ALPM | Nov 16 23:56 |
| mjg59 | So you could enable it, but you risked data corruption | Nov 16 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And Microsoft-Lenovo compact locking PC devices to Windows. | Nov 16 23:56 |
| mjg59 | I was pretty open in my criticism of Intel there | Nov 16 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state of Illinois started sniffing around and made short work of that, mind you. | Nov 16 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They offered to settle with me 2 weeks after I filed the complaint. | Nov 16 23:57 |
| mjg59 | I guess the statute of limitations has passed since you signed me up to a bunch of spam lists | Nov 16 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It terminated the deal between them. | Nov 16 23:58 |
| mjg59 | Anyway, time to go teaching | Nov 16 23:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FSF has a habit of giving those awards out to saboteurs and trolls like you. | Nov 16 23:59 |
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