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| brabo/fn | Dad: smell this maple syrup | Jul 21 00:00 |
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| CrystalMath | brabo/fn: if you didn't get it from me you'd get it from someone else | Jul 21 00:01 |
| Dad/fn | im actually not worried about getting it. survival rate is well above 99% | Jul 21 00:01 |
| brabo/fn | CrystalMath: and while that may be true, others ignorant behaviour does not justify yours | Jul 21 00:01 |
| brabo/fn | if everyone thinks that way, we're all fucked | Jul 21 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | brabo/fn: it's a coronavirus, they spread amazingly well, you simply will get it | Jul 21 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | sometimes my principle is "never give up, never surrender"... | Jul 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | we're overrun by parasites yet we're not dead yet | Jul 21 00:02 |
| brabo/fn | and that is why some basic measures can help avoid that.. | Jul 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | we have parasites such as politicians, suits and cultists | Jul 21 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | but when it comes to natural stuff, it's more like "always give up, always surrender" :P | Jul 21 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: CrystalMath only cares when they do actual harm | Jul 21 00:03 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: do you want HIV? | Jul 21 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | the rest of society is a polar opposite | Jul 21 00:03 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: you got that Galaxy Quest quote wrong | Jul 21 00:03 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ2hJezvd2I | Jul 21 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never give up! Never surrender! - YouTube | Jul 21 00:03 | |
| Dad/fn | in this context, our immune systems are a product of millions of years of survival selection in an ongoing war between macro life and micro life. we have evidence of viruses in our dna that predate our species. then, a hundred years or so of facilitating (from nature's view) adverse selection and a coronovirus is putting us on our ass. i wonder if we'll have enough juice left for whatever is next. | Jul 21 00:04 |
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| kingoffrance | you're playing with fire. thats one small step to never gonna give you up :) | Jul 21 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: The myriad of side effects is also of no concern? | Jul 21 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: do i *want* HIV, tbh i was thinking about it as a possible way to guarantee an early death, but actually it's so painful and horrible that it might not be worth it; also without treatment (which is how i go through life) death can come very fast | Jul 21 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | so the answer is no actually | Jul 21 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | i'd rather die a different way | Jul 21 00:05 |
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| brabo/fn | hey Dad, you clearly snuck in a pun towards me, how about answering? or shall i just send you a flowers with mapple syrup over them? | Jul 21 00:05 |
| Dad/fn | XRevan86 most people people who contract it aren't even aware they did and have no symptoms | Jul 21 00:05 |
| MinceR | > i wonder if we'll have enough juice left for whatever is next. | Jul 21 00:05 |
| MinceR | i hope not | Jul 21 00:05 |
| MinceR | humanity is a menace | Jul 21 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: 99.9%? | Jul 21 00:05 |
| Dad/fn | XRevan86 im not sure of exact numbers, i know it's high 90's | Jul 21 00:06 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgv7U3GYlDY | Jul 21 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What a Savings - YouTube | Jul 21 00:06 | |
| Dad/fn | the danger from coronavirus was never loss of life, that was propaganda. the danger was overload to our medical infrastructure for that small fraction that was impacted by it | Jul 21 00:06 |
| MinceR | overloading our medical infrastructure would have led to loss of life | Jul 21 00:07 |
| Dad/fn | yep | Jul 21 00:07 |
| MinceR | also, there's PASC | Jul 21 00:07 |
| Dad/fn | its primary vs secondary though | Jul 21 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: but if i do get HIV, i won't sent complaints anywhere, i will just write a goodbye note here before my brain goes away | Jul 21 00:08 |
| CrystalMath | *send | Jul 21 00:08 |
| Dad/fn | western medical infra needs an overhaul anyway. they're killing a ton of people by what should be malpractice. | Jul 21 00:08 |
| Dad/fn | im sad today. i wanted to go to the range tonight but i forgot to do laundry. | Jul 21 00:10 |
| brabo/fn | Dad: ah is the range all you got after the AF refused you and courtney dumped you? i pity you.. | Jul 21 00:10 |
| brabo/fn | at least you got that nice lake closeby to cool off | Jul 21 00:12 |
| Dad/fn | so are you guys covering the bezos rocket thing? | Jul 21 00:13 |
| Dad/fn | kind of an austin powers moment | Jul 21 00:14 |
| Dad/fn | https://insider-voice.com/wp-content/uploads/106878484-1620221205794-blueorigin_newshepard_ns10_launchweb.jpeg | Jul 21 00:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 00:15 |
| Dad/fn | MinceR, first thing I thought was: https://youtu.be/CpiP_jN1Pv4 | Jul 21 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Austin powers - it looks like a giant..... - YouTube | Jul 21 00:15 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 00:16 |
| Dad/fn | what an oddly phallic design | Jul 21 00:17 |
| Dad/fn | like how is that not deliberate | Jul 21 00:17 |
| Dad/fn | seems like you could have some fun with that | Jul 21 00:18 |
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| techrights-news | Thousands of #penguins crowding near Ukrainian polar station https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3283216-thousands-of-penguins-crowding-near-ukrainian-polar-station.html | Jul 21 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ukrinform.net | Thousands of penguins crowding near Ukrainian polar station | Jul 21 00:24 | |
| techrights-news | Design for Disassembly: This Old Idea is the Wave of the Future https://www.core77.com/posts/109506/Design-for-Disassembly-This-Old-Idea-is-the-Wave-of-the-Future | Jul 21 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Design for Disassembly: This Old Idea is the Wave of the Future - Core77 | Jul 21 00:24 | |
| techrights-news | #China says #Microsoft hacking accusations fabricated by US and allies https://www.databreaches.net/china-says-microsoft-hacking-accusations-fabricated-by-us-and-allies/ it is the fault of Microsoft that holes exist | Jul 21 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | China says Microsoft hacking accusations fabricated by US and allies | Jul 21 00:24 | |
| techrights-news | " #Huawei has made "no overall improvement" in software engineering processes for its #UK telecoms equipment's firmware, its #GCHQ overseers have warned." huawei_hcsec_oversight_report_muted_criticism | Jul 21 00:25 |
| Dad/fn | like any western news source is going to be credible about Huawei's internal processes now | Jul 21 00:26 |
| techrights-news | Probably #microsoft #windows (i.e. the usual) https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/northern_trains_ticketing_system/ | Jul 21 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Northern Train's ticketing system out to lunch as ransomware attack shuts down servers • The Register | Jul 21 00:28 | |
| techrights-news | The Killer Feature Of Tiling #WindowManagers Isn't Tiling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTzFoJfEXyU #gnu #linux | Jul 21 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Killer Feature Of Tiling Window Managers Isn't Tiling - YouTube | Jul 21 00:28 | |
| techrights-news | #proprietarySoftware https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/fortinet_rce/ | Jul 21 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Fortinet's security appliances hit by remote code execution vulnerability • The Register | Jul 21 00:28 | |
| techrights-news | #bospar is a malicious spamming operation. When they said they'd stop it always turned out to be a lie. Their offices should be raised and their spammers apprehended, | Jul 21 00:32 |
| techrights-news | Using Linux at work - KDE Edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAYN4Y2dew #kde #gnu #linux | Jul 21 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Linux at work - KDE Edition - YouTube | Jul 21 00:32 | |
| techrights-news | An Arduino-powered micro quadruped that fits in the palm of your hand | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/20/an-arduino-powered-micro-quadruped-that-fits-in-the-palm-of-your-hand/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/20/#latest | Jul 21 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | An Arduino-powered micro quadruped that fits in the palm of your hand | Arduino Blog | Jul 21 00:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 00:33 | |
| techrights-news | "and secure boot." That's an ANTI-feature http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-compute-module-and-dev-kit-give-root-to-stm32mp1-applications/ | Jul 21 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-compute-module-and-dev-kit-give-root-to-stm32mp1-applications/ ) | Jul 21 00:35 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm is #greenwashing #surveillance https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/how-natural-language-processing-can-fight-deforestation/ | Jul 21 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | How natural language processing can fight deforestation: MANA-Vox – IBM Developer | Jul 21 00:35 | |
| techrights-news | "A *loooong* conversation with Jeri Ellsworth, self-made inventor, chip designer, AR entrepreneur and keynote speaker at Akademy 2021." https://tube.kockatoo.org/videos/watch/32434d48-ce6f-4b95-a618-0109eb88223f | Jul 21 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Akademy 2021 Interview: In Conversation with Jeri Ellsworth - Kockatoo Tube | Jul 21 00:36 | |
| techrights-news | Conflating "Linux" with #systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153598#comment-30348 | Jul 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| techrights-news | #Mozilla is dead. And it is outsourcing to #Microsoft #proprietarysoftware now.. Stick a form it it. Mozilla is a walking dead. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/07/spring-cleaning-mdn-part-1/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jul 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Spring Cleaning MDN: Part 1 - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jul 21 00:37 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153622 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:40 | |
| techrights-news | WordPress 5.8 “Tatum” Released with Some Amazing New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153609#comment-30349 | Jul 21 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.8 Tatum | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:46 | |
| techrights-news | Warning about #Packt https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/packtpub-preorder.html | Jul 21 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Don’t preorder ebooks from Packt Publishing | Jul 21 00:46 | |
| techrights-news | Videos/Shows: Tiling Window Managers, GNU/Linux at Work, and Akademy 2021 Interview • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153621 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: Tiling Window Managers, GNU/Linux at Work, and Akademy 2021 Interview | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:47 | |
| techrights-news | #Devices : Arduino, Design for Disassembly, MYIR, #OnePlus • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153620 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Arduino, Design for Disassembly, MYIR, OnePlus | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:47 | |
| techrights-news | #AMD Posts Linux Graphics Driver Patches For "Cyan Skillfish" • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153619 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Posts Linux Graphics Driver Patches For "Cyan Skillfish" | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:48 | |
| XRevan86 | I was surprised to see this: https://falkon.org/development/ | Jul 21 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.falkon.org | Development - Falkon | Jul 21 00:49 | |
| techrights-news | "This guy really missed the point why PDF files exist and what they are for... PDF exist to print file, that's why the static layout, all the rest are additions created by non-design choices, commercial pressures etc." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006949.html | Jul 21 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Deurbanising the Web | Jul 21 00:49 | |
| XRevan86 | So I looked around and saw this: https://invent.kde.org/network/falkon/-/commit/249da2470d3b125325e1d6336d98dbd63fdb1088 | Jul 21 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invent.kde.org | Update IRC network in the README (249da247) · Commits · Network / Falkon · GitLab | Jul 21 00:49 | |
| schestowitz | Freenode is FOSS! | Jul 21 00:51 |
| schestowitz | "authored 1 month ago by Nicolás Alvarez's avatar Nicolás Alvarez " | Jul 21 00:52 |
| techrights-news | How Calls became a part of GNOME • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153618 #gnome #gnu #linux #purism | Jul 21 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Calls became a part of GNOME | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:53 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Britain is the largest empire on Earth! | Jul 21 00:53 |
| techrights-news | #NVIDIA Brings Its RTX Tech To #Linux On Arm http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153547#comment-30347 | Jul 21 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 470.57.02 Graphics Driver Brings Support for RTX 3070/80 Ti GPUs, DOOM Eternal Fixes | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:53 | |
| Dad/fn | there are like 150 people in #kde :: shrug :: | Jul 21 00:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: was | Jul 21 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: exactly :) | Jul 21 00:54 |
| techrights-news | #Wine 6.13 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153617 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.13 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:54 | |
| Dad/fn | US or China | Jul 21 00:54 |
| Dad/fn | hard to tell with big red though, sometimes their balloons pop and there's nothing in there | Jul 21 00:55 |
| kingoffrance | eh, surely empires need emperor(s) | Jul 21 00:55 |
| techrights-news | #Games : Ubisoft/SteamOS, Starmancer, and DXVK-NVAPI 0.4 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153616 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Ubisoft/SteamOS, Starmancer, and DXVK-NVAPI 0.4 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:55 | |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: Are ye implying teddy bears cannot be emperors? | Jul 21 00:55 |
| Dad/fn | we dont need an emperor | Jul 21 00:55 |
| Dad/fn | we have Dad | Jul 21 00:55 |
| kingoffrance | i can accept kingdoms :) | Jul 21 00:55 |
| kingoffrance | XRevan86, i will have to see, maybe pooh bear does claim that | Jul 21 00:56 |
| Dad/fn | doesnt he refer to himself as party general secretart | Jul 21 00:56 |
| Dad/fn | *secretary | Jul 21 00:56 |
| Dad/fn | "emperor xi" is a westernism i think | Jul 21 00:57 |
| kingoffrance | https://asiatimes.com/2020/06/xi-jinping-the-second-emperor-of-china/ that says yea | Jul 21 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-asiatimes.com | Xi Jinping: The second emperor of China - Asia Times | Jul 21 00:58 | |
| kingoffrance | yes looks like that Dad https://theconversation.com/why-china-wont-let-people-compare-xi-jinping-with-an-imperial-predecessor-92617 | Jul 21 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Why China won't let people compare Xi Jinping with an imperial predecessor | Jul 21 01:00 | |
| kingoffrance | subjective/objective thing perhaps | Jul 21 01:00 |
| kingoffrance | you cant *say* that | Jul 21 01:00 |
| Dad/fn | yeah the west formed all of its political views during WWII lol | Jul 21 01:01 |
| techrights-news | #Debian GNU/Linux 10 “Buster” Users Get New Linux Kernel Security Update, 4 Flaws Patched • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153615 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | I'd like to interject for a moment, what ye're referring to as Tsar Putin is, in fact, President Putin or as I've recently taken to calling him, National Leader Putin. | Jul 21 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 10 “Buster” Users Get New Linux Kernel Security Update, 4 Flaws Patched | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:02 | |
| XRevan86 | a westernism I think | Jul 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | is caesarism considered western? thats czar :) | Jul 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | theres probably a few types of "caesars" | Jul 21 01:03 |
| Dad/fn | we were talking about china | Jul 21 01:03 |
| Dad/fn | you are talking about russia | Jul 21 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | Emperor of Japan is a thing | Jul 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | we have borisnaro | Jul 21 01:03 |
| Dad/fn | yeah that's a thing | Jul 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they call him a clown | Jul 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | as if his malicious actions are just "jokes" | Jul 21 01:03 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▂▅▅▅▂▃▁▄▄▄▅▄▇▃▆▄▅▅▇▆▂▅▅▅▃▄▄▅▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 9.15▕ swarm size (avg): 285.66 ⟲ | Jul 21 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | Emperor of Korea was a thing, there is even an heir to that throne :D | Jul 21 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | (and we're back to freenode) | Jul 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | no | Jul 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | it's some particular part of it | Jul 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | and goes back over 100 years | Jul 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | so you might imagine dozens of descendants | Jul 21 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Naturally. | Jul 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | it helps him raise money )loans) | Jul 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | I took could come up with bogus fancy names | Jul 21 01:05 |
| Dad/fn | be careful not to confuse asian hereditary successsion to english renaissance hereditary succession | Jul 21 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But since he started calling himself that, I also no longer feel restrained from mocking him about this. | Jul 21 01:06 |
| Dad/fn | we have a tendency to think they all work the same with the same customs | Jul 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz | it's like those BROKE people who buy or rend a Ferrari to get laid | Jul 21 01:06 |
| Dad/fn | i have never seen andrew refer to himself as that | Jul 21 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: https://freenode.net/news/on-free-speech | Jul 21 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Free Speech - freenode | Jul 21 01:07 | |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz | beat me to it | Jul 21 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | He's a Highness now | Jul 21 01:07 |
| Dad/fn | he has not once ever in my presence demanded any royal acknowledgment | Jul 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz | I challenged hi over it inn person | Jul 21 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | (in more than one way) | Jul 21 01:07 |
| Dad/fn | well HIH, there it is | Jul 21 01:07 |
| Dad/fn | im surprised really | Jul 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz | (sorry for typos, netish keyboard) | Jul 21 01:07 |
| Dad/fn | i mean have you had a conversation with the guy | Jul 21 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: Yes, yes we have. | Jul 21 01:08 |
| Dad/fn | i have a hard time believing you did schestowitz, you seem to only communicate in public | Jul 21 01:08 |
| schestowitz | mark shuttleworth referred to himself as benevolent dictator | Jul 21 01:08 |
| Dad/fn | so does patrick volkerding | Jul 21 01:08 |
| Dad/fn | and pat is actually a really, really nice guy | Jul 21 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: No, they communicated in private, so have I. | Jul 21 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | but I not as much | Jul 21 01:09 |
| schestowitz | I share what I can | Jul 21 01:09 |
| schestowitz | but I made a promise to him to keep him private | Jul 21 01:09 |
| schestowitz | spoke about his kids and stuff | Jul 21 01:09 |
| Dad/fn | yeah i'd keep that out of the public spotlight as much as possible, these people are crazy | Jul 21 01:10 |
| Dad/fn | every 3rd brabo has a violence potential | Jul 21 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | IHOP must be desperate for customers. They had a bunch of discounts/rebates that stacked if you got carryout. Turned a $32 meal for me and Mandy into $20. | Jul 21 01:10 |
| techrights-news | Reverse-engineering the #Mali G78 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153614 #linux #graphics | Jul 21 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reverse-engineering the Mali G78 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Restaurant looked pretty dead inside. Like nobody was taking care of the fixtures. | Jul 21 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | One family sitting down and eating. | Jul 21 01:10 |
| techrights-news | #Firefox May Have Lost Up to 12% Of Its Users So Far In 2021 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153613 #www #freesw #mozilla #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox May Have Lost Up to 12% Of Its Users So Far In 2021 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:11 | |
| Dad/fn | i dont go to ihop | Jul 21 01:11 |
| Dad/fn | everything is sticky there | Jul 21 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Firefox May Have Lost Up to 12% Of Its Users So Far In 2021" | Jul 21 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't surprise me. | Jul 21 01:11 |
| brabo/fn | Dad: nice twisting there, as if i am the one trying to talk publicly about doxing me and approaching colleagues of mine to do it ;) | Jul 21 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has put some effort into rebranding Chrome and then leaning on people to keep it. | Jul 21 01:12 |
| brabo/fn | but hey, cool off in that nice lake just east of you | Jul 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: safer to eat at home | Jul 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz | and rianne is an excellent cook | Jul 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz | I doubt people will club for long | Jul 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz | given the risk and requirements like "apps" for spying | Jul 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz | people would rather drink and parties in homes | Jul 21 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | https://boost.org/community/irc.html this page hasn't been touched in a while, but #boost on freenode doesn't even have a topic set. | Jul 21 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.boost.org | Boost IRC Hangouts | Jul 21 01:14 | |
| brabo/fn | schestowitz: people are concerned about spying as much as they actually abandoned faceboob | Jul 21 01:14 |
| kingoffrance | Dad/fn "you are talking about russia" i believe XRevan86 was a bit tongue-in-cheek | Jul 21 01:14 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153612 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | indeed | Jul 21 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:15 | |
| techrights-news | The best #email client for Linux, Windows and macOS isn’t Outlook • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153611 | Jul 21 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best email client for Linux, Windows and macOS isn't Outlook | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | You mean where Boris can't do anything? | Jul 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Yeltsin | Jul 21 01:20 |
| techrights-news | #Security, Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153610 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security, Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:20 | |
| techrights-news | #WordPress 5.8 Tatum • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153609 #GPL #FreeSW #CMS #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.8 Tatum | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:21 | |
| techrights-news | "…and since the EPC does not stipulate that dogs cannot partipate in oral proceedings, I can take my dog with me to my next hearing. Your logic is unbeatable." #epo #corruption #kangarooCourts #germany http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/16/case-g1-21-eba-gives-no-clarity-about-videoconferencing/ | Jul 21 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Case G1/21: EBA gives no clarity about videoconferencing - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jul 21 01:23 | |
| techrights-news | "One more blow at the Boards independence?" #epo #corruption #kangarooCourts #germany http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/16/case-g1-21-eba-gives-no-clarity-about-videoconferencing/ | Jul 21 01:26 |
| techrights-news | #GPL Enforcement and Violations: #Stockfish and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153608 #GNU #FreeSW #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPL Enforcement and Violations: Stockfish and More | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:27 | |
| techrights-news | #VirtualBox 6.1.24 Released with Support for Linux 5.13 and Ubuntu Specific Kernels • 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 ⚓ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153602 ䷉ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VirtualBox 6.1.24 Released with Support for Linux 5.13 and Ubuntu Specific Kernels | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:29 | |
| techrights-news | Linux 5.12 Kernel Reaches End of Life, Upgrade to Linux Kernel 5.13 Now • 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 ⚓ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153603 ䷉ #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.12 Kernel Reaches End of Life, Upgrade to Linux Kernel 5.13 Now | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:31 | |
| techrights-news | Freedom moving forward: An overview of the FSF’s history • 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 ⚓ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153604 ䷉ #GNU #FSF #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Freedom moving forward: An overview of the FSF's history | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:31 | |
| MinceR | Dad/fn: someone called bezos' vehicle "The Blue Organ" :> | Jul 21 01:32 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153607 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:33 | |
| techrights-news | Stable Kernels: 5.13.4, 5.12.19, 5.10.52, 5.4.134, 4.19.198, 4.14.240, 4.9.276, and 4.4.276 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153606 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.13.4, 5.12.19, 5.10.52, 5.4.134, 4.19.198, 4.14.240, 4.9.276, and 4.4.276 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:34 | |
| techrights-news | Links 21/7/2021: WordPress 5.8, Wine 6.13, and VirtualBox 6.1.24 • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/20/virtualbox-6-1-24/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/20/virtualbox-6-1-24/ | Jul 21 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/7/2021: WordPress 5.8, Wine 6.13, and VirtualBox 6.1.24 | Techrights | Jul 21 01:35 | |
| techrights-news | "handheld called the #SteamDeck but unlike the last time they tried this, Linux gaming is very different in fact Linux gaming for most titles is basically seamless." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfqwUXU2FQ0 | Jul 21 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SteamDeck Is Here: Has Valve Learnt From Last Time - YouTube | Jul 21 01:38 | |
| techrights-news | Dan Goodin interjecting extra drama, comparing an OS with #backdoors to this #systemd bug http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153598#comment-30350 | Jul 21 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:41 | |
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| techrights-news | The Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/20/the-snoring-guardian-listens-while-you-sleep-and-vibrates-when-you-start-to-snore/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino Blog | Jul 21 01:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/ooc29b/im_not_making_this_up_this_is_an_actual_picture/ | Jul 21 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I'm not making this up, this is an actual picture of Jeff Bezos' rocket : dogecoin | Jul 21 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Jul 21 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | The Austin Powers comments happened quickly. | Jul 21 01:44 |
| techrights-news | New #malware released from #gulag https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2021/07/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_20.html | Jul 21 01:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop | Jul 21 01:45 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/onpdnl/dont_forget_to_store_use_that_fan/ | Jul 21 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don’t forget to “store use” that fan : walmart | Jul 21 01:47 | |
| techrights-news | #mozila #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://medium.com/@mmayo/how-we-airdropped-4700-meebitsdao-red-ticket-nfts-f46175bd44c9 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jul 21 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How we airdropped 4700 MeebitsDAO “Red Ticket” NFTs | by Mark Mayo | Jul, 2021 | Medium | Jul 21 01:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jul 21 01:48 | |
| techrights-news | Authentication in an Enterprise https://prezu.ca/post/2021-01-20-authentication-at-enterprise/ "With additional DNS spoofing you might be connecting to the wrong website." | Jul 21 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prezu.ca | Authentication in an Enterprise | Jul 21 01:49 | |
| techrights-news | Dirk Eddelbuettel: #pkgKitten 0.2.2 on CRAN: Small Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/07/20#pkgKitten_0.2.2 | Jul 21 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Jul 21 01:50 | |
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| techrights-news | A lot of this can be automated https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/07/14/security-vulnerabilities-data-center-servers/ | Jul 21 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Dealing with security vulnerabilities on data center servers requires more skilled staff - Help Net Security | Jul 21 01:55 | |
| techrights-news | #Australia government in talks to buy Pacific Islands' top #telco https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/telstra_government_funded_digicel_purchase/ | Jul 21 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Australian government in talks to buy Pacific Islands' top telco • The Register | Jul 21 01:57 | |
| techrights-news | 8 Best Icon Themes for Ubuntu (2021 Edition) • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153623 | Jul 21 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Best Icon Themes for Ubuntu (2021 Edition) | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:01 | |
| techrights-news | #Kaisen Linux Rolling 1.7 Release Notes • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153624 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaisen Linux Rolling 1.7 Release Notes | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:01 | |
| techrights-news | Is Access Advanced Really Checking Essentiality? -- An #HEVC Case Study https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/12/access-advanced-checking-essentiality a #swpats #cartel http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/ | Jul 21 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Is Access Advanced Really Checking Essentiality? -- An HEVC Case Study — Unified Patents | Jul 21 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HEVC Cartel is Not News, Only the Names of Backers and the Costs Are New | Techrights | Jul 21 02:03 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▁▃▄▅▅▂▃▅▅▂▅▄▄▅▂▃▄▄▄▅▅▄▅▅▆▅▅▅▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 21.81 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 26.60▕ swarm size (avg): 285.68 ⟲ | Jul 21 02:03 |
| techrights-news | #patent extremist and blowhard Gene Quinn now uses #watchtroll to prop up #HeritageFoundation ... can people recognise that site for what it truly is? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll | Jul 21 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights | Jul 21 02:04 | |
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| schestowitz | 22k is now the max for freenode https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jul 21 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jul 21 02:11 | |
| techrights-news | Legal Alert: New Hatch-Waxman-Style #Patent #Law Formally Adopted by China’s National People’s Congress; to Take Effect June 1, 2021 https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/legal-alert-new-hatch-waxman-style-30195/ | Jul 21 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Alert: New Hatch-Waxman-Style Patent Law Formally Adopted by China’s National People’s Congress; to Take Effect June 1, 2021 | Fish & Richardson - JDSupra | Jul 21 02:12 | |
| techrights-news | Hoarding #patents in place of products https://lamberteatonnews.com/news-posts/2021/07/20/second-firdapse-us-patent-secured-catalyst-3-still-pending/ | Jul 21 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lamberteatonnews.com | Second Firdapse Patent Secured in US by Catalyst With 3 Still Pending | Jul 21 02:17 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Nothing new is happening on that front, things have pretty much settled for now. | Jul 21 02:17 |
| techrights-news | "The vast majority of ex parte #patent appeals (92%) are focused on obviousness, with 2/3 of those only addressing obviousness questions." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/notes-appeals-patent.html #uspto #fakepatents #ptab | Jul 21 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Notes on Ex Parte Appeals of Patent Cases | Patently-O | Jul 21 02:17 | |
| XRevan86 | Idlers idle, CMaths enjoy their new network without the FOSS annoyances, FOSS has moved to Libera mostly, and the people move on with their lives leaving the past in the past. | Jul 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what it will take for cubexyz zoobab et al to move over to self-hosted | Jul 21 02:20 |
| schestowitz | We actually moved to #techrights at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) which is the correct channel to use). | Jul 21 02:21 |
| schestowitz | we are on freenode as backup in case of downtime mostly | Jul 21 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Something should be done to the wording in http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ | Jul 21 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights | Jul 21 02:22 | |
| techrights-news | Journo who went to prison for 2 years for breaking US cyber-security law is jailed again https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/journalist_prison_offending/ "Deletion of employer's YouTube account" | Jul 21 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Journo who went to prison for 2 years for breaking US cyber-security law is jailed again • The Register | Jul 21 02:22 | |
| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153625 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:26 | |
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| techrights-news | #Google and Mozilla Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153626 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google and Mozilla Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:31 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153627 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:34 | |
| techrights-news | "The virus has the audacity not to even notify the person that they were infected." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200721.html#tJul%2020%2023:33:28 | Jul 21 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 | Jul 21 02:35 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200721.txt Read the log now... | Jul 21 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 | Jul 21 02:36 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Bringing my mocking of CMath to a wider audience :D | Jul 21 02:37 |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200721.txt Read the log now... | Jul 21 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 | Jul 21 02:37 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200721.txt Read the log now... | Jul 21 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 | Jul 21 02:38 | |
| techrights-news | "nVidia proprietary drivers updated for OpenMandriva Lx 4.2 and Rolling branches. Also instructions for installing the drivers." https://www.openmandriva.org/en/breve/nvidia-proprietary-driver-packages-for-om-lx-4-2-and-rolling | Jul 21 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openmandriva.org | nVidia proprietary driver packages for OM Lx 4.2 and (...) - OpenMandriva | Jul 21 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: yes | Jul 21 02:39 |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200721.txt Read the log now... | Jul 21 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 | Jul 21 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | budy night ahead | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | I fight with BT | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | also: | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | DDOS on Tuxmachines | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | I've just improved the protections | Jul 21 02:40 |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-07-20.txt | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | tux machines is very prominent in results now | Jul 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | as much of the 'competition' perished | Jul 21 02:41 |
| techrights-news | Dave Airlie: llvmpipe/lavapipe: anisotropic texture filtering • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153628 #linux #graphics | Jul 21 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dave Airlie: llvmpipe/lavapipe: anisotropic texture filtering | Tux Machines | Jul 21 02:41 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I wanted to write to cubexyz about the network today (again) but I thought of that after your answer to him, which was a few hours past his moment of activity. | Jul 21 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | Haven't had a conversation with him in a while. | Jul 21 02:44 |
| schestowitz | he is busy moving to slackware latest | Jul 21 02:44 |
| schestowitz | slackware 'left' freenode | Jul 21 02:44 |
| schestowitz | (read: was kicked out) | Jul 21 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Haven't heard of that, as far as I am aware it never was on it in the first place. | Jul 21 02:45 |
| *acer-box____ is now known as schestowitz2 | Jul 21 02:45 | |
| schestowitz2 | so it is no "safe space" for users of slackware | Jul 21 02:45 |
| schestowitz2 | heck, I think I might start typing into IRC from this PC instead | Jul 21 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe some developers were involved in the channel, I don't know… freenode doesn't fancy the developer" kind. | Jul 21 02:46 |
| *schestowitz2 is now known as schestowitz-TR | Jul 21 02:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: FWICT, lee isn't much of a dev | Jul 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | he tinkers a bit with JS | Jul 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least he was persuaded to host his own git repo | Jul 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's always good to be in control of one's code, changes, infra etc. | Jul 21 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://slackware.com/~rworkman/slackware-irc/ expectations and reality matched once again | Jul 21 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to slackware.com:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://slackware.com/~rworkman/slackware-irc/ ) | Jul 21 02:48 | |
| XRevan86 | http://slackware.com/~rworkman/slackware-irc/ I mean | Jul 21 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-##slackware info | Jul 21 02:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://ariadne.space/ | Jul 21 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | Ariadne's Space | Jul 21 02:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz | My first experience with IRC was in 1999. I was in middle school, and a friend of mine ordered a Slackware CD from Walnut Creek CDROM. This was Slackware 3.4, and contained the GNOME 1.x desktop environment on the disc, which came with the BitchX IRC client. | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz | At first, I didn’t really know what BitchX was, I just thought it was a cool program that displayed random ascii art, and then tried to connect to various servers. After a while, I found out that an IRC client allowed you to connect to an IRC network, and get help with Slackware. | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz | At that time, freenode didn’t exist. The Slackware IRC channel was on DALnet, and I started using DALnet to learn more about Slackware. Like most IRC newbies, it didn’t go so well: I got banned from #slackware in like 5 minutes or something. I pleaded for forgiveness, in the way redolent of a middle schooler. And eventually, I got unbanned and stuck around for a while. That was my first experience with IRC. | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | :) " I got unbanned and stuck around for a while." | Jul 21 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | who knew slackware itself would be banned a couple of decades down the line | Jul 21 02:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's a new Slackware-related channel on freenode, it has a whopping 11 people. | Jul 21 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | because Park the Bear got pissed off | Jul 21 02:50 |
| Ariadne | slackware was originally on DALnet, then DALnet was ddos attacked so they moved to openprojects | Jul 21 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I know it predates its presence there in freenode | Jul 21 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | dalnet was how I got started | Jul 21 02:51 |
| Dad/fn | you're not looking in the right place | Jul 21 02:51 |
| Ariadne | 00:33 [freenode] -!- You are banned from this server- Courtesy of Phanes/Bagira (2021/6/13 01.33) | Jul 21 02:52 |
| Ariadne | 00:33 [freenode] -!- ERROR Closing Link: mirrors.slackware.com (K-Lined) | Jul 21 02:52 |
| Ariadne | 00:33 [freenode] -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net | Jul 21 02:52 |
| Ariadne | why am i not surprised | Jul 21 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: #slackware is not the right place? | Jul 21 02:52 |
| Dad/fn | ##slackware is where the cool kids are XRevan86 | Jul 21 02:52 |
| Ariadne | to the extent that any child is actually using slackware in 2021 | Jul 21 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: With a pointer away to a single-hash one in the topic. | Jul 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | 45 users | Jul 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | in ##slackware | Jul 21 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 145, on Libera | Jul 21 02:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they have been partitioned | Jul 21 02:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like many other projects | Jul 21 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: So, why aren't the cool kids following the topic? Idling? | Jul 21 02:54 |
| Dad/fn | that's actually expected. one of the first things i did on this network was remove some old stalkers that had made it high up in that community over the years with the staff turning a blind eye to it | Jul 21 02:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you can never maximise reach to people who can help | Jul 21 02:55 |
| Dad/fn | so they took some people with them to Libera where their behaviours and natures will be overlooked and enabled | Jul 21 02:55 |
| Ariadne | fascinating | Jul 21 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Nah, people who can help are not partitioned, luckily. | Jul 21 02:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I know what you mean | Jul 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the reason over 95% of our constructive conversations are here | Jul 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in libera not a work all day yesterday | Jul 21 02:56 |
| Ariadne | let’s get it to 100% and kill the bridge :p | Jul 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: when everyone has crossed over | Jul 21 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's the same for other channels, the official destination is where it's at, unpartitioned. | Jul 21 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also a downtime contingency | Jul 21 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: interesting | Jul 21 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The slowpokes and renegades are not really all that helpful. | Jul 21 02:58 |
| Dad/fn | to be honest it doesn't really matter if one is official or the other is not, as a project folks should want as many support venues as possible in as many places as possible | Jul 21 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, IRC is not dead yet, but those wars would only help if many alternatives emerge in 66** | Jul 21 02:58 |
| Ariadne | so much to do | Jul 21 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | not in matrix, jabber etc. | Jul 21 02:58 |
| Dad/fn | the whole idea of centralizing to control everything is what created the problems that got addressed here | Jul 21 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | It's cool how what I'm saying is the exact opposite of what Dad is saying. | Jul 21 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | pleroma and mastodon tackle some issues, not others | Jul 21 02:59 |
| *Dad/fn shrugs | Jul 21 02:59 | |
| Ariadne | i’ve largely concluded that social media is bad | Jul 21 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | for instance, they're still susceptible to distraction and misinformation, even some forms of censorship | Jul 21 02:59 |
| Dad/fn | you're entitled to be wrong | Jul 21 02:59 |
| Ariadne | i also agree with phones | Jul 21 03:00 |
| Ariadne | phanes | Jul 21 03:00 |
| Ariadne | actually | Jul 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I missed 2005 when we had millions of active blogs and technorati etc | Jul 21 03:00 |
| Ariadne | on the point that more support channels are better than less | Jul 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other day I saw that delicious had been offlined | Jul 21 03:00 |
| Ariadne | big tech doesn’t want blogs | Jul 21 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | Fringe locations are not going to provide technical help at a level an official would. | Jul 21 03:01 |
| Ariadne | they want social control media | Jul 21 03:01 |
| kingoffrance | ^ "big tech" irony perhaps is social media is a type of centralized blog. ^^^^ | Jul 21 03:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: if those don't divide people along politics in otherwise technical project | Jul 21 03:01 |
| kingoffrance | they want their own "blog repalcement" | Jul 21 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | an official channel would I mean | Jul 21 03:01 |
| kingoffrance | curated | Jul 21 03:01 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86 not necessarily | Jul 21 03:01 |
| kingoffrance | they dont want blogs out of their hands, they want their curated form | Jul 21 03:01 |
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| Ariadne | official channels may be more conservative in the help they provide out of fear that a newbie may break their system | Jul 21 03:02 |
| Dad/fn | depends on if the project has a code of conduct to use as a control mechanism | Jul 21 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Maybe, but the context is this partition where developers left freenode. | Jul 21 03:02 |
| Ariadne | unofficial channels on the other hand may suggest riskier but usable fixes | Jul 21 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Ah, I understand what ye mean. | Jul 21 03:02 |
| Dad/fn | they might also not be drinking the koolaid of fixated project leaders | Jul 21 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, our logger covers all 3 networks | Jul 21 03:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | all goes into the same file on disk | Jul 21 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I got reprimanded in #lineageos for giving help to those who asked about microG, I just left. | Jul 21 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Three? What? | Jul 21 03:03 |
| Ariadne | precisely | Jul 21 03:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still need to decide what to do regarding techpol seeing that it is active, we might combine that with an existing file | Jul 21 03:04 |
| Dad/fn | how apt for my position on all of this that someone felt you should be "reprimanded" for the manner in which you volunteer your assistance | Jul 21 03:04 |
| Dad/fn | i hope you told them to go to hell | Jul 21 03:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might, eventually | Jul 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like cyanogenmode | Jul 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | mod | Jul 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | pmos is more interesting | Jul 21 03:05 |
| Ariadne | hell yeah alpine on phones | Jul 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but when you start from the assumption we need "another" Android I think you go about with false premise | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Ariadne | nah we need real linux on phones | Jul 21 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | "real" as in gnu | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Dad/fn | we do | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Dad/fn | desperately | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Dad/fn | android is poison | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Ariadne | real as in whatever userspace you want | Jul 21 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | more people now know Linux is not enough | Jul 21 03:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux in TomTom is not freedom | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Ariadne | personally i think gnu code quality is not good | Jul 21 03:06 |
| Dad/fn | yeah well we've seen your code | Jul 21 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the point is, kernel level freedom is not enough | Jul 21 03:07 |
| Dad/fn | and we've seen the gnu code | Jul 21 03:07 |
| Ariadne | my code is fine :) | Jul 21 03:07 |
| Dad/fn | i'll take the gnu code | Jul 21 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to expand further up the stack | Jul 21 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux "won" | Jul 21 03:07 |
| Dad/fn | it doesn't win if it becomes virtually acquired | Jul 21 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne, Dad: Their channel is very big, if they feel like they don't want to see anything microG-related, it's their opinion about how to maintain order. | Jul 21 03:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Valve might take KDE to 10-50 million people's machines | Jul 21 03:07 |
| Dad/fn | an army of big 5 developers driving it off a cliff | Jul 21 03:08 |
| Dad/fn | make it dependent | Jul 21 03:08 |
| Dad/fn | put some money in it | Jul 21 03:08 |
| Ariadne | if you’re looking at my ircd code yes that sucks but it sucked prior to my arrival | Jul 21 03:08 |
| Dad/fn | celebrate that with some fuzzy pr | Jul 21 03:08 |
| Ariadne | and well atheme i wrote as a teenager | Jul 21 03:08 |
| XRevan86 | And I use the fruits of their labour (with microG), they know how not to make a mess at least. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| Dad/fn | and then one day | Jul 21 03:09 |
| techrights-news | "Siteage, LLC announces release sponsorship of Navy Linux, #NavyLinux is currently the only option for in-place upgrades for #CentOS " https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/546758992/siteage-llc-announces-release-sponsorship-of-navy-linux | Jul 21 03:09 |
| Dad/fn | "hey we want you to implement the archit. for these proprietary features we sell that expand it" | Jul 21 03:09 |
| Dad/fn | and then we're nerfing the open source parts | Jul 21 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | Siteage, LLC announces release sponsorship of Navy Linux - EIN Presswire | Jul 21 03:09 | |
| XRevan86 | CyanogenOS is not coming back | Jul 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for the better | Jul 21 03:10 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: So I should find new software because they said I shouldn't give microG advice in their IRC? | Jul 21 03:10 |
| Dad/fn | its more subtle than what im describing though | Jul 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was working as a bit of a Microsoft proxy at a later stage | Jul 21 03:11 |
| Dad/fn | its more like "this version sucks, use the paid version" | Jul 21 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | (of course that killed it) | Jul 21 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody survives Microsoft partnerships | Jul 21 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was a giant failure that even destroyed CyanogenMod with it (but only the name). | Jul 21 03:11 |
| Dad/fn | Xrevan86 no im saying you should tell them to go to hell, do it anyway, and then champion the removal of assholes who try to bully their communities | Jul 21 03:12 |
| Ariadne | open core is indeed a problem | Jul 21 03:12 |
| Dad/fn | and then when they're all gone, remove me too | Jul 21 03:12 |
| techrights-news | "it makes me absolutely sick seeing the paint peeling and the stucco falling off ... but they're an apt metaphor for the current state of the #IBM Corporation." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bVGzuqb | Jul 21 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Campuses, Revived - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jul 21 03:13 | |
| *XRevan86 needs translation for this proverb: "В чужой монастырь со своим уставом не ходят". | Jul 21 03:13 | |
| kingoffrance | "They don't go to someone else's monastery with their own charter." | Jul 21 03:14 |
| kingoffrance | sounds like whoever has the gold makes the rules : ) | Jul 21 03:14 |
| XRevan86 | > When in Rome, do as the Romans do. | Jul 21 03:14 |
| kingoffrance | obey the master of whoever's house, land you sit on. yeah, that too | Jul 21 03:14 |
| XRevan86 | Found this one. | Jul 21 03:14 |
| Dad/fn | yall's description of the state of ibm is completely different than my experience with them | Jul 21 03:14 |
| techrights-news | "Those who celebrate this miserable rise in the stocks are the losers who will be stuck jobless when the company goes belly up." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bUEafu3#replies | Jul 21 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why are you guys so negative, just say hurray! - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jul 21 03:14 | |
| Ariadne | IBM is very IBM | Jul 21 03:15 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft = financial engineering, not computer engineering http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials | Jul 21 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - Techrights | Jul 21 03:15 | |
| Ariadne | they largely abandoned alpine and debian ppc64le ports after the redhat acquisition | Jul 21 03:15 |
| Dad/fn | well yeah market analysis, i already covered why with you via pm | Jul 21 03:16 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not going to just march in and try to wreck the place because their policy restricts a complicated topic. | Jul 21 03:16 |
| Dad/fn | divestiture should have been expected there | Jul 21 03:16 |
| Ariadne | it was | Jul 21 03:16 |
| Ariadne | then when alpine disqualified ppc64le moving forward they were like | Jul 21 03:17 |
| Ariadne | oh no we are still committed | Jul 21 03:17 |
| Ariadne | here is free softlayer ppc64le cloud account | Jul 21 03:17 |
| Ariadne | loooooooooool | Jul 21 03:17 |
| Dad/fn | lol @ softlayer | Jul 21 03:18 |
| kingoffrance | XRevan86, another related is "a man's home is his castle" :) | Jul 21 03:18 |
| Dad/fn | that shit is where dreams go to die man | Jul 21 03:18 |
| Ariadne | i used to have a softlayer dedicated server back in the day | Jul 21 03:18 |
| Ariadne | it was ok | Jul 21 03:18 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: I thought that's more about invading one's place rather than trying to push own rules to a new environment. | Jul 21 03:19 |
| Dad/fn | better off just hosting your own from a business internet account in a closet at the house | Jul 21 03:19 |
| Ariadne | servers do | Jul 21 03:20 |
| Ariadne | make a nice white noise generator | Jul 21 03:21 |
| Dad/fn | at least its not oracle cloud though | Jul 21 03:21 |
| Dad/fn | only an idiot would use oracle cloud | Jul 21 03:21 |
| Dad/fn | would not recommend | Jul 21 03:21 |
| Ariadne | ARM vps offerings are still emergent | Jul 21 03:21 |
| Dad/fn | lol @ emergent | Jul 21 03:22 |
| Ariadne | it’s basically them or AWS or renting a raspberry pi with SAN storage | Jul 21 03:22 |
| Dad/fn | aaws is still top of the line for iaas | Jul 21 03:22 |
| XRevan86 | And, either way, #microg is a better place for discussing such stuff. If one has a question about microG on LineageOS, just go there. | Jul 21 03:22 |
| Ariadne | there used to be scaleway but they dropped ARM | Jul 21 03:22 |
| Ariadne | AWS is also quite pricey | Jul 21 03:22 |
| techrights-news | Old: "The internet is a phenomenal communications tool that very few people had even heard of not so long ago. The world wide web only came into being slightly more than fifteen years ago." https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/2351323263.shtml | Jul 21 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-On Staying Happy | Techdirt | Jul 21 03:23 | |
| Dad/fn | compared to SL??? | Jul 21 03:23 |
| Dad/fn | hahaha | Jul 21 03:23 |
| Ariadne | the oracle ARM vps start at $7 per month | Jul 21 03:23 |
| Dad/fn | or Azure? | Jul 21 03:23 |
| techrights-news | #7Zip 21.03 Beta https://www.neowin.net/news/7-zip-2103-beta/ | Jul 21 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | 7-Zip 21.03 Beta - Neowin | Jul 21 03:23 | |
| XRevan86 | It's really not that complicated though: Magisk (Riru, LSPosed, microG), LSPosed (FakeGapps) and it's done. | Jul 21 03:23 |
| Ariadne | SL is quite pricy, as one would expect of an IBM owned company | Jul 21 03:24 |
| XRevan86 | Magisk has made it a lot simpler to get microG working under anything. | Jul 21 03:24 |
| techrights-news | Open-source dev and critic of Beijing claims Audacity owner Muse threatened him with deportation to China in row over copyright • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153629 | Jul 21 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source dev and critic of Beijing claims Audacity owner Muse threatened him with deportation to China in row over copyright | Tux Machines | Jul 21 03:24 | |
| techrights-news | Muse is starting to come across as another Andrew Lee and #audacity another #freenode | Jul 21 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, and one should enable FakeGapps for the system framework in LSPosed. It's too old to support scopes. | Jul 21 03:26 |
| XRevan86 | so it won't be done automatically | Jul 21 03:26 |
| techrights-news | Wow, #serverwatch is still around? https://www.serverwatch.com/servers/server-security-tools/ | Jul 21 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Server Security Tools & Software for 2021 | ServerWatch | Jul 21 03:28 | |
| Dad/fn | there should be more coverage of the folks who are stalking that guy who forked audacity | Jul 21 03:28 |
| kingoffrance | XRevan86, well it was about the owner of the house makes the rules within his borders. thus, police need a warrant | Jul 21 03:29 |
| kingoffrance | they dont get "automatic access" | Jul 21 03:29 |
| techrights-news | "Despite advances in tools, platforms, and languages, software programming challenges dog developers." https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/4-software-programming-challenges-today-s-developers | Jul 21 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | 4 Software Programming Challenges for Today’s Developers | IT Pro | Jul 21 03:29 | |
| kingoffrance | truth of course is surely a mixture | Jul 21 03:29 |
| kingoffrance | both then and now | Jul 21 03:29 |
| kingoffrance | for the example, the channel is under the irc network is under ... | Jul 21 03:30 |
| kingoffrance | they dont quite have "full autonomy" either, still have to obey network rules, etc. | Jul 21 03:30 |
| techrights-news | "It allows users to run high speed and complex applications with its quad-core processor as well as applications through Docker Containers with its Linux-based real time operating system." https://www.aerospacemanufacturinganddesign.com/product/wago-edge-controller-computer/ | Jul 21 03:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aerospacemanufacturinganddesign.com | Edge controller, edge computer - Aerospace Manufacturing and Design | Jul 21 03:31 | |
| kingoffrance | basically, if you had full title you wouldnt have to pay taxes. so doubtful many people had that, if any | Jul 21 03:31 |
| kingoffrance | thats why i say was always likely a "mixture" | Jul 21 03:32 |
| techrights-news | ...From #security through obscurity to security through #buzzwords https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/cloud-native-security/the-what-and-why-of-cloud-native-security/ | Jul 21 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | The What and Why of Cloud-Native Security - Container Journal | Jul 21 03:32 | |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: Feels more about law and rights and less about respect. | Jul 21 03:34 |
| kingoffrance | yes, but im not sure theres a huge difference | Jul 21 03:34 |
| kingoffrance | it should be common sense i think yes | Jul 21 03:35 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: A channel is not exactly a house with a proprietor. | Jul 21 03:35 |
| XRevan86 | It's a community with leaders and customs. | Jul 21 03:35 |
| kingoffrance | eh, it has ops/owners | Jul 21 03:35 |
| kingoffrance | not all chatters are created equal | Jul 21 03:35 |
| kingoffrance | not all can set the topic | Jul 21 03:35 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: It's not as individual | Jul 21 03:36 |
| kingoffrance | yes, agree | Jul 21 03:36 |
| techrights-news | Something Sinister Below Deck | LINUX Unplugged 415 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145637/something-sinister-below-deck-linux-unplugged-415/ #gnu #linux | Jul 21 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Something Sinister Below Deck | LINUX Unplugged 415 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Jul 21 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: there are hostile elements | Jul 21 03:41 |
| schestowitz | those cannot be given the same privs as the rest | Jul 21 03:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ye mean troublemakers like Dad? :D | Jul 21 03:41 |
| schestowitz | I meant in the abstract | Jul 21 03:42 |
| schestowitz | there have always been forces trying to silence us | Jul 21 03:42 |
| schestowitz | (or to discredit) | Jul 21 03:42 |
| schestowitz | we're stilm here, or we clearly overcame it all | Jul 21 03:43 |
| Dad/fn | same so far | Jul 21 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill gates bribing my boss was a 'dick move' | Jul 21 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I can use that phrase colourfully now | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | as we know he had his dicks in many places | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | (other than his wife's) | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with NDAs | Jul 21 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | > no im saying you should tell them to go to hell, do it anyway, and then champion the removal of assholes who try to bully their communities | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | my boss had to sign an NDA | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | before he even told me about it | Jul 21 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | I'm basing that on the assumption that this is what Dad would've done. | Jul 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mr. failed lawyers | Jul 21 03:44 |
| Dad/fn | XRevan86 i didn't say we had the same approach in dealing with it :) | Jul 21 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | getting everyone to sign NDAs | Jul 21 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's also how Microsot did its 'busines' | Jul 21 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that's the brain of bill's dad atrk | Jul 21 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | his dad is dead... as of a year ago | Jul 21 03:45 |
| Dad/fn | if someone presents a credible threat to you, rip off their limbs and beat them to death it. or make peace, whichever is less energy. | Jul 21 03:46 |
| Dad/fn | never move based on fear in an adversarial situation. ever. ever ever ever. | Jul 21 03:47 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: Is that what happened to ##slackware ? | Jul 21 03:47 |
| Dad/fn | no that was doing a community a favor to make sure it doesn't happen to other folks. | Jul 21 03:47 |
| Dad/fn | at least here anyway | Jul 21 03:47 |
| XRevan86 | Well, now it's on Libera, so I guess that worked out. | Jul 21 03:48 |
| Dad/fn | in a sense sure, but look what happened. it concentrated those assholes all into one new place with a substory of it being due to their bad culture. there's a stage set for the next "bagira". | Jul 21 03:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: there will be LC scandals to come | Jul 21 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | for sure | Jul 21 03:50 |
| Dad/fn | and alot of those project leaders are in a convenient place for another big shift to occur that won't be anywhere near as pleasant if it comes | Jul 21 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the question is, of what nature... | Jul 21 03:50 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: Are ye from the US? | Jul 21 03:50 |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/20/0712249&from=rss | Jul 21 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Apple Employees Threaten to Quit as Company Takes Hard Line Stance on Remote Work - SoylentNews | Jul 21 03:50 | |
| Dad/fn | this has resulted in the resignation of members of the board of the OSI, top leaders at the Gnome Foundation, several members of the management at the FSF, and it brought a huge culture problem to the forefront of the social consciousness | Jul 21 03:51 |
| Dad/fn | im not in any way regretting how much we've accompolished with this | Jul 21 03:51 |
| Dad/fn | if freenode dies tomorrow i still made some critical strategic objectives | Jul 21 03:52 |
| AdmFubar | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/21/07/19/228225/edward-snowden-calls-for-spyware-trade-ban-amid-pegasus-revelations?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Jul 21 03:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Edward Snowden Calls For Spyware Trade Ban Amid Pegasus Revelations - Slashdot | Jul 21 03:53 | |
| Dad/fn | they'll sweep my story under the rug, or make a new one that makes me a monster, but there will be a path to the state i want to see | Jul 21 03:53 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: Internet has self-healing properties, it's just going to continue routing around your strategic objectives. | Jul 21 03:53 |
| Dad/fn | nah that's so abstract it doesn't mean anything | Jul 21 03:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's a lot harder to predict because I don't see any preconditions for that. | Jul 21 03:54 |
| Dad/fn | this is a counter culture-shaping effort | Jul 21 03:54 |
| Dad/fn | im making a big, big omelette | Jul 21 03:54 |
| Dad/fn | and its an omelette that deserves to get made | Jul 21 03:54 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: I'm not really in a culture-shaping business. | Jul 21 03:54 |
| Dad/fn | i only use the bad eggs | Jul 21 03:55 |
| Dad/fn | except ariadne, she's not even useful as cannon fodder | Jul 21 03:55 |
| XRevan86 | I used to think of myself as a too respectful person before the freenode kerfuffle. | Jul 21 03:56 |
| Dad/fn | a pearl amongst swine on IRC | Jul 21 03:57 |
| XRevan86 | What an omelette some people have in their heads, and the arrogance to shove it into everyone's faces. | Jul 21 03:58 |
| Dad/fn | arrogance has utility in some scenarios | Jul 21 03:58 |
| Ariadne | does it | Jul 21 03:58 |
| Dad/fn | yes absolutely | Jul 21 03:58 |
| Ariadne | such as? | Jul 21 03:59 |
| techrights-news | For #IBM to take 'growth' it needed to compare performance to a disastrous pandemic years and not count expenses like takeovers https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/ibm_q2_results/ | Jul 21 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM's 3% sales growth may not seem like much but it's the biggest it's had in three years • The Register | Jul 21 03:59 | |
| Ariadne | i need to hit the road soon | Jul 21 04:00 |
| Ariadne | i have to go visit my grandmother tomorrow who is going into memory care 🙃 | Jul 21 04:00 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What's memory care? | Jul 21 04:00 |
| Ariadne | gotta say the sxmo emoji compose stuff is great | Jul 21 04:00 |
| Ariadne | memory care is basically alzheimer’s lockdown shit | Jul 21 04:01 |
| AdmFubar | don't know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs | Jul 21 04:01 |
| XRevan86 | AdmFubar: Give them to Dad | Jul 21 04:01 |
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| techrights-news | Alphabet agency #Gulag hiring all the "fine people" https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/amr_awadallah_jewish_people_google/ | Jul 21 04:01 |
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| Ariadne | that meeting was rather wild | Jul 21 04:02 |
| Ariadne | from what i have been told | Jul 21 04:02 |
| AdmFubar | sounds like someone needs a jop and has to publicly clean up his act | Jul 21 04:02 |
| techrights-news | #Patent systems as a total waste of human capacity http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/21/further-updates-on-patent-linkage-and-patent-term-extension-in-china/ anything to protect the powerful... | Jul 21 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Further Updates on Patent Linkage and Patent Term Extension in China - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jul 21 04:03 | |
| XRevan86 | Dad needs to stop doing "activism" that the community is openly disliking. | Jul 21 04:03 |
| Dad/fn | yeah as soon as you associate your personal life with your job like its some status symbol you stop being a private person and start being an owned extension of that company | Jul 21 04:03 |
| XRevan86 | What's the opposite of social activism? | Jul 21 04:04 |
| Dad/fn | XRevan86 then alot of people need to resign or dramatically change how things work around them. | Jul 21 04:04 |
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| XRevan86 | Ariadne: How badly is she having it? | Jul 21 04:05 |
| Ariadne | ummm | Jul 21 04:05 |
| Dad/fn | alzheimers is brutal watch a loved one go through | Jul 21 04:05 |
| Dad/fn | *to watch | Jul 21 04:05 |
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| XRevan86 | I'm glad I haven't. | Jul 21 04:06 |
| AdmFubar | https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/21/07/19/1837215/nvidia-shield-tv-owners-are-pissed-about-the-banner-ads-in-android-tv?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Jul 21 04:06 |
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| Ariadne | yesterday she started freaking out hard core about her mother dying (dead since 1987). my cousin gave her a xanax and a pot gummie and it didn’t phase her at all | Jul 21 04:06 |
| Ariadne | so i would say it is taking a turn for the worse | Jul 21 04:06 |
| Dad/fn | are you guys all in counseling too, it affects the fam just as much as it does the patient | Jul 21 04:07 |
| Ariadne | i mean i used to be a social worker so this isn’t really phasing me too bad but my mom is seeing a shrink | Jul 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night I dreamed a friend of ours died | Jul 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and his wife was devastated, that's when I woke up | Jul 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems everyone has the occasional dreams where parents die too | Jul 21 04:11 |
| XRevan86 | I don't, but I did see dreams about myself dying | Jul 21 04:12 |
| XRevan86 | A bit of a weird concept as one cannot possibly have a perspective on that. | Jul 21 04:12 |
| AdmFubar | that is a nightmare not a dream! | Jul 21 04:13 |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/20/0658254&from=rss | Jul 21 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Semiconductor Crystals Tweaked to Realize Superior Properties for Electronics - SoylentNews | Jul 21 04:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the 'out of body experience' thing | Jul 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | turns out many mistake sleep paralysis experiences for something else | Jul 21 04:13 |
| XRevan86 | No, it's just depression and stuff. | Jul 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like near death experience, meeting god, alien abduction | Jul 21 04:13 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Jul 21 04:13 |
| AdmFubar | stop that late night snacking! | Jul 21 04:13 |
| kingoffrance | some channels me and others always laugh because they try to purposely have such an experience, and cant do it lol | Jul 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to make it happen | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to know how ti trick myself into it | Jul 21 04:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The dreams focused on what my loved ones would feel. | Jul 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | actually, even if you know you are having sleep paralysis, it's still not pleasant, esp. if you don't know how to snap out of it | Jul 21 04:15 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, i just mean, lack of sleep will make you hallucinate | Jul 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing how to snap out fo a bad dream when you know it's just a dream is a valuable skill | Jul 21 04:15 |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/19/235217&from=rss | Jul 21 04:15 |
| kingoffrance | i dont recommend it, just saying :) | Jul 21 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Drought Threatens to Close California Hydropower Plant for First Time - SoylentNews | Jul 21 04:15 | |
| XRevan86 | Haven't had sleep paralysis, but it's not that hard to imagine. | Jul 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's always not pleasant | Jul 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | one option is to go back to sleep | Jul 21 04:16 |
| Ariadne | never had a sleep paralysis event | Jul 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | sleeping while sitting helps that happen | Jul 21 04:16 |
| Ariadne | does not seem fun | Jul 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps when you know a feeling of nearby presence is "normal" | Jul 21 04:17 |
| Ariadne | i don’t sleep while sitting. at most i meditate | Jul 21 04:17 |
| AdmFubar | you've had it... just you weren't aware of it.. | Jul 21 04:17 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not falling asleep easily, could be why. | Jul 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I brought this up in USENET ages ago | Jul 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I now know how to sleep fast, which comes in handy if I want to split sleep into many parts | Jul 21 04:18 |
| kingoffrance | i got 99 problems but sleep paralysis aint one </phanes> | Jul 21 04:18 |
| Ariadne | but my bed is kind of a sacred space, so i’m usually in a happy mood when i’m sleeping | Jul 21 04:18 |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/17/2257243&from=rss | Jul 21 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | NTSC Finally Goes Dark in America - SoylentNews | Jul 21 04:19 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe usenet and irc are next | Jul 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | next frontier: google cctv glasses and ar | Jul 21 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "to improve user experience' | Jul 21 04:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If IRC can survive Andrew Lee, it has a lot of strength built-in. | Jul 21 04:21 |
| Dad/fn | maybe | Jul 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | mass media and tv as social control tool has outlived its reach | Jul 21 04:21 |
| Dad/fn | google glass had the potential to change the evolution of our species | Jul 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not they herd "the masses" in social control media | Jul 21 04:21 |
| Dad/fn | they went about it all wrong though | Jul 21 04:21 |
| Dad/fn | should've created secondary markets by opening up the firmware and just been a provider from a hardware perspective | Jul 21 04:22 |
| Dad/fn | and then taken a hard loss on gen 1 | Jul 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/everything-we-know-about-facebooks-secret-mood-manipulation-experiment/373648/ | Jul 21 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Everything We Know About Facebook's Secret Mood Manipulation Experiment - The Atlantic | Jul 21 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds | Jul 21 04:22 |
| AdmFubar | the hardware was nowhere near ready at the time.. got to try... wasn't impressed | Jul 21 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News | Jul 21 04:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions | Facebook | The Guardian | Jul 21 04:22 | |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/19/1827252&from=rss | Jul 21 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Ukraine Warehouse Packed with Thousands of PS4s was Actually a FIFA Ultimate Team Bot Farm - SoylentNews | Jul 21 04:22 | |
| Dad/fn | they needed to flood the market with the parts | Jul 21 04:22 |
| Dad/fn | for the builder scene | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Dad/fn | and didn't | Jul 21 04:23 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I don't feel the same way about my bed. | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Dad/fn | because it's google and they're just building things without thinking | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Ariadne | if you have a bed that is comfy and calming, you probably won't have nightmares and stuff | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Ariadne | my stuffed animal friends annihilate the gloomies :p | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Dad/fn | even my nightmares aren't scary | Jul 21 04:23 |
| Dad/fn | they're rare but it does happen | Jul 21 04:24 |
| XRevan86 | I got a new mattress, and I'm still not happy. | Jul 21 04:24 |
| Dad/fn | they're not really like nightmares though they're like | Jul 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I have a bad dream, the wife will wake me up and vice versa | Jul 21 04:24 |
| Dad/fn | like if someone was playing with the physics engine | Jul 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I seem to have solved the issue of TM load with some tweaks. yay! | Jul 21 04:25 |
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| schestowitz-TR | no apache restarted since I made those change | Jul 21 04:26 |
| AdmFubar | off to chill and have tv watch me with my eyes closed. later all | Jul 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | *changes | Jul 21 04:26 |
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| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: may you enjoy your next sleep paralysis experience;-) | Jul 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, too late | Jul 21 04:26 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: for me, its having familiar things in bed. mattress is whatever | Jul 21 04:27 |
| Ariadne | blankets, stuffed animals, etc | Jul 21 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, you need a lot of force to snap out of such paralysis, like creating an adrenalin rush to supresede it | Jul 21 04:27 |
| Dad/fn | lol @ stuffed animals | Jul 21 04:28 |
| Ariadne | i can sleep anywhere if i use my own blankets | Jul 21 04:28 |
| Ariadne | lol @ phanes | Jul 21 04:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | during this heat wave blankets only ruin the sleep | Jul 21 04:28 |
| Dad/fn | ive always been a minimalist with that stuff | Jul 21 04:28 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I can lie sleepless while having a living animal sleeping next to me. | Jul 21 04:28 |
| XRevan86 | (I mean a cat) | Jul 21 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | small one? | Jul 21 04:29 |
| XRevan86 | yes, 3kg | Jul 21 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so technically a "pussy" (kitten) | Jul 21 04:29 |
| Dad/fn | my pup sits at the end of the bed | Jul 21 04:29 |
| XRevan86 | Not by age, so not a kitten, but a pussy, yes. | Jul 21 04:30 |
| Dad/fn | occassional wakeup scene with him barking a skunk away from the window | Jul 21 04:30 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930 | Jul 21 04:30 |
| schestowitz | "Facebook is facing criticism after it emerged it had conducted a psychology experiment on nearly 700,000 users without their knowledge." | Jul 21 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News | Jul 21 04:30 | |
| schestowitz | whose experiment, cui bono? | Jul 21 04:30 |
| Dad/fn | from his perspective he's doing his job and earning his rent so he just gets a pat on the head and a shush | Jul 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | "Facebook secretly experiments on users to try make them sad. What could go wrong?" | Jul 21 04:31 |
| XRevan86 | For me the heat wave is over. | Jul 21 04:31 |
| Dad/fn | yes this sounds like an organization who should be coordinating an army of culture shapers to keep the open source world moving | Jul 21 04:31 |
| XRevan86 | But apparently it will make a comeback. | Jul 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | shithub | Jul 21 04:32 |
| Dad/fn | idgaf who approves | Jul 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | in linkedin microsoft can also decided who gets no job interviews, to some degree | Jul 21 04:32 |
| Dad/fn | ive been posting about that for 2 years on my blog | Jul 21 04:32 |
| Dad/fn | they own github where the most of the open source code is | Jul 21 04:33 |
| Dad/fn | they own linkedin where those same people find jobs | Jul 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | centralised media doesn't like talking about centralised stuff as a threat to society | Jul 21 04:33 |
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| Dad/fn | not many people could get away with it | Jul 21 04:34 |
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| Ariadne | linkedin sucks | Jul 21 04:35 |
| Ariadne | polywork is the new hotness | Jul 21 04:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have another approach: | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | employers that rely on Microsoft to find recruits... | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not interested in them | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | hiring people don't care about resumes anymore | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for Twitter, shuthub etc. | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | they care about what people are doing now | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they already broadcast bad tendencies | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | so, what i do is | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | i blog about stuff | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | a charity in kenya sending me docx files said enough... | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | and then i have wordpress syndicate links to my blog | Jul 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | to twitter etc | Jul 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Jul 21 04:37 |
| Dad/fn | yeah they do | Jul 21 04:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the real stuff is not in twitter | Jul 21 04:37 |
| Dad/fn | resumes are still one of the most important parts of the process besides network reputation | Jul 21 04:37 |
| Ariadne | i should clarify: hiring people at companies i want to work for | Jul 21 04:37 |
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| Ariadne | dont care so much about resumes | Jul 21 04:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | resumes are so 90s | Jul 21 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had landlines and points of contact for references | Jul 21 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | no code to see over electronic means | Jul 21 04:38 |
| Ariadne | github sucks | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll be another skype | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | skype is dying badly | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft uses it to rebrand | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | for illusion of "teams" growth | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | give shithub another 5 years and see it as one of "many" that really count | Jul 21 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | slow-motion codeplex-isation | Jul 21 04:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll be dominant like "edge" and "bing" | Jul 21 04:40 |
| Ariadne | i don't like this whole GPT3 coding thing | Jul 21 04:40 |
| Ariadne | i think it is going to create a legal compliance nightmare | Jul 21 04:40 |
| Ariadne | they did not teach their AI thing about licenses | Jul 21 04:41 |
| Dad/fn | anotehr gimmick | Jul 21 04:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | even before microsoft shithub didn't care about licensing | Jul 21 04:41 |
| Dad/fn | openai shit is just that | Jul 21 04:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they use "hey hiu" as a legal dodge | Jul 21 04:41 |
| Dad/fn | its all sunken cost fallacy after marketers realized they can sell AI but it isn't AI | Jul 21 04:41 |
| Ariadne | people have demonstrated it reproducing code from GPL quake3 engine and then saying it was something else | Jul 21 04:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "it's a computer that violated the GPL... SUE THE COMPUTER" | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Ariadne | so it seems like a serious footgun | Jul 21 04:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | dad: same with "cloud" | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Dad/fn | these big corps are vulturing around looking for any viable means to start rampantly violating the gpl | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Ariadne | basically | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Dad/fn | you've got an entire software industry crumbling that desperately needs that to survive | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Ariadne | so they'll launder it throuigh this AI thing | Jul 21 04:42 |
| Dad/fn | and the gpl doesn't ever get enforced | Jul 21 04:43 |
| Dad/fn | bluemix, yay | Jul 21 04:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it just did get enforced | Jul 21 04:43 |
| Dad/fn | that was a big assed flop | Jul 21 04:43 |
| kingoffrance | well i said in another channel, what is more needed, something to write new code, or something to refactor? normally its a "code smell" "antipattern" if you have a bunch of code, spread across multiple files/projects, almost the same but not quite. you are in a repo of twisty little codeblocks, each slightly different. you are likely to be eaten by a copilot | Jul 21 04:43 |
| Ariadne | hellwig vs vmware makes enforcement kinda sketchy for large projects | Jul 21 04:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [01:27] <techrights-news> #GPL Enforcement and Violations: #Stockfish and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153608 #GNU #FreeSW #TuxMachines | Jul 21 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPL Enforcement and Violations: Stockfish and More | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:43 | |
| Ariadne | hellwig vs vmware was dismissed because they concluded that hellwig did not have enough copyright interest in linux to enforce | Jul 21 04:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | vmware insider admitted the violation | Jul 21 04:44 |
| Dad/fn | we should have ariadne push new code to copilot's sources on the weekends | Jul 21 04:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ | Jul 21 04:44 |
| Dad/fn | it'll fuck that AI up so hard it won't get shit done | Jul 21 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights | Jul 21 04:44 | |
| Dad/fn | sure msft wouldn't notice right away | Jul 21 04:45 |
| Ariadne | phanes i mean, if you want me to write bad code, i can intentionally write bad code and push it to github :p | Jul 21 04:45 |
| Dad/fn | but a few months down the line someone's using it and waht comes out looks like a star trek teleporter malfunction | Jul 21 04:45 |
| Dad/fn | screaming to be purged | Jul 21 04:45 |
| Ariadne | i have made submissions to IOCCC before | Jul 21 04:45 |
| Dad/fn | just take a few big hits of ALD-52 and set up a hotkey to commit and push | Jul 21 04:46 |
| Ariadne | i mean, my doing LSD in the desert days are kinda behind me tbh | Jul 21 04:47 |
| Dad/fn | nah | Jul 21 04:48 |
| Dad/fn | im pretty sure you're still draggin them behind you with a rope everywhere | Jul 21 04:48 |
| Ariadne | not really | Jul 21 04:48 |
| Dad/fn | draggin' somethin | Jul 21 04:48 |
| Ariadne | last time i tripped on acid it was not a particularly great time | Jul 21 04:48 |
| Dad/fn | nobody goes "sorry for lying about you it was just business" who isn't dragging something heavy that they can't handle on their own | Jul 21 04:50 |
| Ariadne | i don't think i've lied about you, i've disclosed logs that were sent to me, and that was indeed, just business | Jul 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/10/23/steve-jobs-exposed/ | Jul 21 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Steve Jobs and His War on Linux, LSD Addiction, and ‘Theft’ of Credit for UNIX, Java, Xerox Inventions | Techrights | Jul 21 04:50 | |
| Ariadne | i also removed those logs on your request | Jul 21 04:52 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153630 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 04:53 | |
| Ariadne | however, after andrew decided that freenode should commit seppaku, my interest in discussing freenode (to discourage use of andrew's bouncy castle) waned | Jul 21 04:55 |
| Ariadne | but, yes, attempt to gaslight me all you want :) | Jul 21 04:56 |
| Dad/fn | my impression was that it was turning out to be less supply than you can get elsewhere | Jul 21 04:56 |
| Dad/fn | the whole freenode thing i mean | Jul 21 04:56 |
| Ariadne | i was just covering the swamp, specifically andrew's reconfiguration of it | Jul 21 04:57 |
| Ariadne | after he, in his words, "obliterated the swamp" there was no reason to cover it anymore | Jul 21 04:57 |
| Ariadne | i have in fact, criticized previous freenode personnel in the same way. ask christel :) | Jul 21 04:58 |
| Ariadne | christel tried to involve herself in the administration of one of my projects simply because we used freenode | Jul 21 04:59 |
| Dad/fn | oh i dont doubt that it's been convenient for you at times | Jul 21 04:59 |
| techrights-news | #Server: Clown, Security, and Navy Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153631 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 04:59 |
| Ariadne | and she did not like that i accepted patches from somebody she did not like (jzk) | Jul 21 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: Clown, Security, and Navy Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 21 05:00 | |
| Ariadne | the reason i give libera the benefit of the doubt is because christel is explicitly not involved | Jul 21 05:00 |
| Ariadne | if christel were involved, i would not have anything nice to say about libera either :) | Jul 21 05:00 |
| Dad/fn | they're the same people that created the atmosphere that facilitated that entire fiasco | Jul 21 05:00 |
| Ariadne | to some extent, but christel is really the person responsible, she told her team one thing, and she told andrew another thing | Jul 21 05:01 |
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| Dad/fn | her team needs to be working at aldi | Jul 21 05:01 |
| Ariadne | given that, it is not surprising that the libera team moved to protect their own interests | Jul 21 05:01 |
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| Dad/fn | the ends don't justify the means | Jul 21 05:02 |
| Dad/fn | the way in which people do things is as important as what they do | Jul 21 05:02 |
| Dad/fn | and in some cases more important than why they do them | Jul 21 05:03 |
| Ariadne | well, i agree, which is why i covered the way which freenode's new staff did things | Jul 21 05:03 |
| Ariadne | :) | Jul 21 05:03 |
| XRevan86 | Dad: Are ye talking about the Liberia spam again? | Jul 21 05:03 |
| Dad/fn | its not just the spam | Jul 21 05:03 |
| Ariadne | well, really, all of this is grumble's doing | Jul 21 05:03 |
| Dad/fn | these people deliberately fostered a breeding ground for those kinds of toxic behaviours for more than a decade | Jul 21 05:03 |
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| Ariadne | hes the one who set things in motion with that mass kill he did | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Ariadne | i was planning on just setting up ircds for my projects | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Dad/fn | they turn a blind eye selectively to that shit for plausible deniability but that doesn't mean its ethical | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Ariadne | alpine was already working on setting up its own irc servers | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Dad/fn | they also did deliberately set out to burn the walls down on the way out | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Dad/fn | fuchs' threats to andrew were telling | Jul 21 05:04 |
| Ariadne | oh, i agree with you there 100% | Jul 21 05:04 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Ye do? | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Dad/fn | but its not just these events | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Ariadne | yes, i think the network was handed over in a barely operational state | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Dad/fn | its the atmosphere they've bred, the toxic miasma that forms around them and permeates these projects | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Ariadne | i saw it for myself | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Dad/fn | toxic people seek toxic people for safety in numbers | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Dad/fn | and then they establish authority | Jul 21 05:05 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Was it something they did? | Jul 21 05:05 |
| Dad/fn | and then they misuse that authority | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: they deleted the ansible playbooks or whatever | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | so literally | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Dad/fn | and the ticket system | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | the way andrew's team was running the network | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | for like | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | the first week | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | they were literally just sshing into things | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Ariadne | and doing it by hand | Jul 21 05:06 |
| Dad/fn | but like i said this isn't just about what they did on the way out, or their campaign after the fact to try to reclaim what they appropriately lost | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Ariadne | anyway, i had issues with christel's freenode too | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Dad/fn | after a while the potential of what you could be gets eaten by what you've been | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Ariadne | i'm willing to, to an extent, give libera some benefit of the doubt | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Ariadne | but, alpine chose OFTC for a reason | Jul 21 05:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I see, haven't heard about that before. | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Dad/fn | what | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Dad/fn | OFTC are the SAME PEOPLE | Jul 21 05:07 |
| Dad/fn | as long as tom wesley and his stooges are strangling it OFTC will be just as broken as libera | Jul 21 05:08 |
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| Dad/fn | when you have corrupt network authority you get corrupt project leadership because they lean on each other to obfuscate and enable their behaviours | Jul 21 05:09 |
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| Ariadne | to an extent, but to an extent also not | Jul 21 05:10 |
| Ariadne | ultimately OFTC answers to the debian folks | Jul 21 05:10 |
| Dad/fn | what not extent, he's been using oftc as a springboard into freenode to try to establish a mini-coup and still has that influence with that same group because libera is old freenode's crew | Jul 21 05:10 |
| Ariadne | no | Jul 21 05:10 |
| Ariadne | tomaw has been freenode staff since 2005 | Jul 21 05:11 |
| Dad/fn | yes, and that's why he's been completely invisible through all of this because he knows libera and oftc have the open source projects so he can keep moving forward with it when the dust settles | Jul 21 05:11 |
| Ariadne | his involvement in OFTC is much newer | Jul 21 05:11 |
| Dad/fn | im not talking about the timeline im talking about the establishment of OFTC furthering his interests at freenode | Jul 21 05:12 |
| Ariadne | his interests to do what, precisely? | Jul 21 05:12 |
| Dad/fn | its a coup | Jul 21 05:12 |
| Ariadne | solanum is the continuation of charybdis, it has my blessing | Jul 21 05:12 |
| Ariadne | charybdis was ultimately destroyed because of christel mucking around and intimidating the project | Jul 21 05:12 |
| Dad/fn | some people just want to control stuff, and this is what he thinks will give him the most supply | Jul 21 05:13 |
| Ariadne | everyone left because they did not wish to be k-lined by christel | Jul 21 05:13 |
| Dad/fn | you know when i hear your version of that it sounds so much like the cover story the slackware heads are using | Jul 21 05:14 |
| Ariadne | i mean, there does seem to be some similarities, except instead of a fear of being k-lined by christel, they were actually k-lined by you | Jul 21 05:18 |
| Ariadne | but i need to take a nap | Jul 21 05:18 |
| Ariadne | so, toodles | Jul 21 05:18 |
| Dad/fn | yep they were | Jul 21 05:18 |
| Ariadne | well, it is unsurprising that people who have been k-lined from freenode would recommend not using it | Jul 21 05:19 |
| Dad/fn | yeah i dont care what they recommend | Jul 21 05:20 |
| Ariadne | you seem to care, we've been discussing it for the past 2 hours :) | Jul 21 05:20 |
| Ariadne | amongst other topics, admittedly | Jul 21 05:20 |
| Dad/fn | i did mention it 3 minutes ago once but i appreciate that timelines aren't your forte | Jul 21 05:20 |
| Ariadne | i meant freenode at large | Jul 21 05:22 |
| Ariadne | anyway, goodnight | Jul 21 05:22 |
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| gustaf | Dad/fn: gotta agree with you that the main issue with uncontrolled spread of Covid would have been healthcare collapse, not mass death | Jul 21 06:21 |
| gustaf | but I do think western govs don't want to imply that healthcare is limited | Jul 21 06:22 |
| gustaf | but I also think a situation with overloaded ICUs and triage would have led to a bigger panic and issues than what we have with lockdowns etc | Jul 21 06:23 |
| gustaf | vz. Spanish Flu | Jul 21 06:24 |
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| kingoffrance | evan (dont want to needlessly hilight) i should add, i dont think it is bad irc has some hierarchy. just that, there is implied contract when you connect to a network, you will follow the rules. there is implied you join a channel you will follow the rules of the channel, etc. so i think "freedom" marketing is largely illusion, there's always been implied "delegation" as it were just by connecting (nevermind any other "internet citizenship" | Jul 21 06:40 |
| kingoffrance | or local laws/whatever/wherever physical servers are located,etc.) | Jul 21 06:40 |
| kingoffrance | so maybe that is, apropos the saying. its an implied contract joining a channel you follow the rules | Jul 21 06:42 |
| kingoffrance | its implied by being in the vicinity | Jul 21 06:43 |
| kingoffrance | thus, freedom is irrelevant. you get compelled performance/equity, as if there was some contract in play. only q is did you honor contract or not | Jul 21 06:44 |
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| kingoffrance | anyways :) | Jul 21 06:44 |
| kingoffrance | when there's a contract at play "freedom" is irrelevant | Jul 21 06:45 |
| kingoffrance | the assumption is you agreed to sign away some "freedom" | Jul 21 06:45 |
| kingoffrance | in that sense, i would say "law" analogies are doomed | Jul 21 06:46 |
| kingoffrance | generically, castle or community, i think that perhaps is closer | Jul 21 06:49 |
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| kingoffrance | *or monastery, similar thing going on | Jul 21 06:54 |
| kingoffrance | so, not just a saying, applies to many things :) | Jul 21 06:59 |
| kingoffrance | irony is perhaps, EULAs versus old ftp sites "you agree by connecting you are not FBI" etc. lol | Jul 21 07:03 |
| kingoffrance | irony in that, both sides rely on such contracts | Jul 21 07:03 |
| kingoffrance | i dont think courts gave them equal powers, but yeah :) | Jul 21 07:04 |
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| gustaf | I don't view Lee as being particularly intelligent, and smarter people than he have a problem with distinguishing censorship from moderation | Jul 21 07:11 |
| gustaf | I have no problem with Freenode chanops or staff banning people | Jul 21 07:12 |
| gustaf | I do have a problem with them being hypocritical about it | Jul 21 07:12 |
| kingoffrance | yeah i dunno, although i agree with Dad " as soon as you associate your personal life with your job like its some status symbol you stop being a private person and start being an owned extension of that company" except i think businesses crossed that line long ago | Jul 21 07:13 |
| kingoffrance | maybe, there is more than just employees and that line | Jul 21 07:14 |
| kingoffrance | that pandora's box is wide open i think :) | Jul 21 07:14 |
| gustaf | I view my employment purely as transactional | Jul 21 07:15 |
| gustaf | maybe he means stuff like associating with open source/idealistic projects? | Jul 21 07:15 |
| gustaf | I dunno | Jul 21 07:15 |
| kingoffrance | well i just mean businesses doing any "politics". in usa you'll find car dealerships with flags everywhere etc. | Jul 21 07:16 |
| kingoffrance | so with lee "freedom" etc. | Jul 21 07:16 |
| kingoffrance | that line was crossed long ago IMO | Jul 21 07:16 |
| gustaf | that's jsut marketing | Jul 21 07:16 |
| gustaf | also ideally nationalism transcends politics | Jul 21 07:18 |
| gustaf | implying that if you're not proud to be a citizen you are an enemy is itself a political statement ;) | Jul 21 07:18 |
| kingoffrance | i suppose i find it interesting, from what i saw, 20-30 years ago, many things were "we dont do politics, rms/fsf/etc. are politics/extremists" now that seems to have kind of turned "we dont do rms/fsf, they dont match my politics" | Jul 21 07:21 |
| kingoffrance | like before, non-ethics was why you cant do free software. now it seems in some sense, free software is not ethical enough | Jul 21 07:22 |
| kingoffrance | i dont know if id even say that is a dominant theme, just kind of strange to me to see it 180ed | Jul 21 07:23 |
| kingoffrance | even if its just small, particular attacks | Jul 21 07:23 |
| kingoffrance | it could jsut be i didnt notice before either | Jul 21 07:23 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, tech is neutral used to be a huge thing | Jul 21 07:24 |
| kingoffrance | seems that is almost nowhere now | Jul 21 07:24 |
| kingoffrance | not even saying that is good or bad | Jul 21 07:24 |
| kingoffrance | just marketing has changed | Jul 21 07:24 |
| gustaf | an entire generation has grown up | Jul 21 07:25 |
| gustaf | with FOSS | Jul 21 07:26 |
| gustaf | there are developers active today who don't remember MSFT being as dominant as it was | Jul 21 07:26 |
| gustaf | action / reaction | Jul 21 07:26 |
| kingoffrance | lol yes the merinvingian :) | Jul 21 07:26 |
| gustaf | MSFT got greedy and got struck down by the DOJ, so now the current big incumbents avoid those tripwires | Jul 21 07:27 |
| gustaf | also erst kommen den Essen | Jul 21 07:27 |
| gustaf | you can't sustain yourself on righteousness forever | Jul 21 07:27 |
| gustaf | as FOSS has grown into general acceptance the fighting has turned inwards | Jul 21 07:28 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, that makes sense | Jul 21 07:29 |
| gustaf | I mean, central stuff like "freedom" haven't been settled ;) | Jul 21 07:30 |
| gustaf | GNU fans and BSD fans insist their view is the most "Free" | Jul 21 07:30 |
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| schestowitz | gustaf: I want to interject | Jul 21 07:50 |
| *schestowitz just woke up | Jul 21 07:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the inward thing has truck a never | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's "inwards" is infiltration | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like OSI defecting | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need disinfecting | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the old guards, like IBM an Microsoft, fight back | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | in less traditional ways | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to explain what's happening | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, why the GPL is under attack | Jul 21 07:51 |
| gustaf | I don't agree, but I don't have hard facts, just hunches | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | spoiler: because it is popular | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for Linux | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | very populare | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they are unable to compete anymore | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | Android also become too big to crush | Jul 21 07:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | another aspect is, we fight higher up the stack for freedom | Jul 21 07:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | as almost all Android "apps" are nonfree | Jul 21 07:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the fighr for "freedom" -- no matter what they made up with "open" -- will never end | Jul 21 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | naturally we get appetite and fight on for more | Jul 21 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | GitHub was always less GPL-centric | Jul 21 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | so Microsoft took over and uses that | Jul 21 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM also doesn't want reciprocal licences | Jul 21 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's why IBM cannot monopolise RHEL | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even with systemd, podman, ansible and whatnot | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | people clone and fork | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | github is failing | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not growing | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | more people learn the value of self-hosting | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to teach them that | Jul 21 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Android has many splinters, same for Chromium, so Google makes it harder to work around | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like very frequent release cycles | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (same as systemd) | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the community finds ways around it, as it did with audacity | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they try CLA | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but GPL wing at the end | Jul 21 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we find a way to regain freedom | Jul 21 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | with audio editors | Jul 21 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | so, going back to that "inward" thing | Jul 21 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's self-defence | Jul 21 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | whose? The freedom lovers (software freedom, mostly code geeks who know how to craft theiir own solutiobs) | Jul 21 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Groklaw fought back since the SCO lawsuit until 2013 -- about 10 years | Jul 21 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights started in 2006 (Microsoft-Novell collusion around software patents) and we still fight a similar battle (to Groklaw's) 15 years down the line | Jul 21 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | had we not had lots of people on our side, we would not have made it this far, so clearly people do pay attention and moreover care | Jul 21 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:51] <tr-bridge> [techrights-news/tr] ...The person who authored this piece of #Microsoft apologism had also raised Microsoft money (bribes) for #SFC for two years in a row and worked hard to destroy RMS after receiving an award from him. | Jul 21 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:49] <tr-bridge> [techrights-news/tr] The corrupted OSI, which now sends the majority of its budget Microsoft's way ( #GitHub / #proprietarysoftware ), is of course pretending that mass violation of the #GPL by #Microsoft is no big deal https://opensource.org/copilotimpact | Jul 21 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | What does Copilot Mean for Open Source? | Open Source Initiative | Jul 21 08:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR | we are not fighting inwards | Jul 21 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | GPL is under attack | Jul 21 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | by Mirosoft in HEY HI clothing | Jul 21 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | we fight back | Jul 21 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI was neutered some time last year | Jul 21 08:01 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Education ☞ Putting the social back into #socialscontrolmedia https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/putting-social-back-social-media | Jul 21 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Putting the social back into social media | Times Higher Education (THE) | Jul 21 08:02 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Cyber attackers ‘weaponising’ Operational Technology to harm, kill humans: study https://itwire.com/security/cyber-attackers-%E2%80%98weaponising%E2%80%99-operational-technology-to-harm,-kill-humans-study.html | Jul 21 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cyber attackers ‘weaponising’ Operational Technology to harm, kill humans: study | Jul 21 08:03 | |
| kingoffrance | well, i can see that. painting things as "infighting" is what many attackers want, to disguise themselves | Jul 21 08:03 |
| kingoffrance | then its just "infighting" not coordinated from outside, etc. | Jul 21 08:03 |
| kingoffrance | takes all the attention away from them | Jul 21 08:03 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #InternationalBusinessTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Israel ☞ Pegasus row continues; Govt officials, Oppn politicians, activists part of snooping list in India [details] https://www.ibtimes.co.in/pegasus-row-continues-govt-officials-oppn-politicians-activists-part-snooping-list-india-838806 | Jul 21 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.in | Govt officials, Opposition politicians, activists part of snooping list in India - IBTimes India | Jul 21 08:03 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #HTTPToolkit #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Public CDNs Are Useless and Dangerous https://httptoolkit.tech/blog/public-cdn-risks/ | Jul 21 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-httptoolkit.tech | Public CDNs Are Useless and Dangerous | HTTP Toolkit | Jul 21 08:03 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: there is that, too | Jul 21 08:04 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Mega six-screen cyberdeck https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/mega-six-screen-cyberdeck/ | Jul 21 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Mega six-screen cyberdeck - Raspberry Pi | Jul 21 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Google Delisted Hundreds of Thousands of URLs to Comply with Russian 'VPN Law' https://torrentfreak.com/google-delisted-hundreds-of-thousands-of-urls-to-comply-with-russian-vpn-law/ | Jul 21 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Delisted Hundreds of Thousands of URLs to Comply with Russian 'VPN Law' * TorrentFreak | Jul 21 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #UEFA Wins Two-Year Extension to Streaming Piracy Blocking Order https://torrentfreak.com/uefa-wins-two-year-extension-to-streaming-piracy-blocking-order-210720/ | Jul 21 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UEFA Wins Two-Year Extension to Streaming Piracy Blocking Order * TorrentFreak | Jul 21 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity ☞ Spam Kingpin Peter Levashov Gets Time Served https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/07/spam-kingpin-peter-levashov-gets-time-served/ | Jul 21 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Spam Kingpin Peter Levashov Gets Time Served – Krebs on Security | Jul 21 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: "easier said than done, US government services are done online and tied to facial scans of IDs which have been outsourced to /very/ dodgy companies" https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/to-protect-yourself,-never-give-your-dna:c? | Jul 21 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | To Protect Yourself, Never Give Your DNA Or Biometric Data | Jul 21 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | #xml 2.5 decades later https://schematron.com/2021/07/the-goals-of-xml-at-25-and-the-one-change-that-xml-really-has-needed/ | Jul 21 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schematron.com » The Goals of XML at 25: and the one change that XML really now needs | Jul 21 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3625870/in-the-fight-against-ransomwar-microsoft-must-do-more.html | Jul 21 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In the fight against ransomware, Microsoft must do more | Computerworld | Jul 21 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | # m$ and every last one of its minions simply needs to go away: | Jul 21 08:10 |
| schestowitz | # don't go away mad, just go away | Jul 21 08:10 |
| techrights-news | Can't tell the difference bwteeen #systemd and #linux then? Or local escalation versus remote (Windows has lots of that)? https://www.itnews.com.au/news/linux-systemd-bug-allows-denial-of-service-attacks-567690 https://duo.com/decipher/privilege-escalation-flaw-found-buried-in-linux-file-system | Jul 21 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Linux systemd bug allows denial of service attacks - Security - Software - iTnews | Jul 21 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duo.com | Privilege Escalation Flaw Found Buried in Linux File System | Decipher | Jul 21 08:12 | |
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| schestowitz | activelow: morning | Jul 21 08:13 |
| activelow | greetings | Jul 21 08:14 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #wikileaks ☞ Critics Note Blinken's Vow to Support 'Independent Journalists' Does Not Apply to Julian #Assange https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/20/critics-note-blinkens-vow-support-independent-journalists-does-not-apply-julian | Jul 21 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Critics Note Blinken's Vow to Support 'Independent Journalists' Does Not Apply to Julian Assange | Common Dreams News | Jul 21 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #DemocracyNow #wikileaks #assange ☞ Amnesty International: Julian Assange’s “Arbitrary” Detention Must End. Release Him Now. https://www.democracynow.org/2021/7/20/julian_assange_detention_agnes_callamard | Jul 21 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Amnesty International: Julian Assange’s “Arbitrary” Detention Must End. Release Him Now. | Democracy Now! | Jul 21 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Tor #mozilla ☞ New Release: Tor Browser 11.0a2 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-110a2 | Jul 21 08:16 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Tor #torproject ☞ New Release: #TorBrowser 10.5.3 (Android) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1053 | Jul 21 08:17 |
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| techrights-news | How Do You Solve a Privacy Problem Like Facebook? Two New Ways Emerge - PIA VPN Blog ⚓ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-do-you-solve-a-privacy-problem-like-facebook-two-new-ways-emerge/ ䷉ #privateinternetaccess | Jul 21 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How Do You Solve a Privacy Problem Like Facebook? Two New Ways Emerge – PIA VPN Blog | Jul 21 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #DemocracyNow ☞ Amnesty Int’l Calls for Moratorium on Private Spyware After Israeli #NSO#Group Pegasus Revelations https://www.democracynow.org/2021/7/20/pegasus_spyware_israel_nso_group | Jul 21 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Amnesty Int’l Calls for Moratorium on Private Spyware After Israeli NSO Group Pegasus Revelations | Democracy Now! | Jul 21 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Marjorie Taylor Greene Suspended From #Twitter for Posting False #COVID19 Claims https://truthout.org/articles/marjorie-taylor-greene-suspended-from-twitter-for-posting-false-covid-claims/ OK, but will Twitter still bag bribes from COVID profiteers? http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ | Jul 21 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Marjorie Taylor Greene Suspended From Twitter for Posting False COVID Claims | Jul 21 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights | Jul 21 08:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Calls Grow for Moratorium on Private Spyware After Pegasus Revelations | Jul 21 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #WIPO Says Johnson & Johnson Can't Seize Parody Website Suggesting Band Aids With Corporate Sponsors https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210716/16243147187/wipo-says-johnson-johnson-cant-seize-parody-website-suggesting-band-aids-with-corporate-sponsors.shtml WIPO does worse than J&J: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO | Jul 21 08:38 |
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| gustaf | kingoffrance, schestowitz-TR I see it as an internal "culture war" thing though. Lots of noise about "codes of conduct", anti-LGBT | Jul 21 08:52 |
| gustaf | just standard US politics thru a free software lens | Jul 21 08:52 |
| gustaf | whether it's internal or directed from the outside isn't really the point | Jul 21 08:53 |
| gustaf | accusing people who care about inclusivity in free software of being paid shills doesn't resolve anything | Jul 21 08:54 |
| gustaf | it just shifts the blame | Jul 21 08:54 |
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| kingoffrance | dont disagree. but codes of conduct is not software license, its some other issue | Jul 21 09:00 |
| gustaf | narrowly focussing on "code" as opposed to "codes of conduct" is itself dodging the issue | Jul 21 09:01 |
| gustaf | free software is a social activity | Jul 21 09:01 |
| gustaf | peopel will come into contact with other people | Jul 21 09:01 |
| kingoffrance | not according to freedom 0 | Jul 21 09:01 |
| kingoffrance | i agree to a point | Jul 21 09:02 |
| kingoffrance | i just dont have a solution | Jul 21 09:02 |
| gustaf | hehe me neither | Jul 21 09:02 |
| gustaf | because these things exist outside the FOSS community | Jul 21 09:02 |
| gustaf | people don't check ideas and prejudices at the door | Jul 21 09:02 |
| kingoffrance | i agree perhaps ignoring such things doesnt solve anything, but still dont have a solution | Jul 21 09:03 |
| kingoffrance | CM says its libertarian | Jul 21 09:03 |
| kingoffrance | so, ppl are all over the place | Jul 21 09:03 |
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| kingoffrance | point being, libertarian implies "freedom of association" | Jul 21 09:04 |
| kingoffrance | (or not) | Jul 21 09:04 |
| kingoffrance | (of who to associate with, or not) | Jul 21 09:04 |
| gustaf | the freedom to fork is always there, but Adam Smith's dictum of comparative advantage still applies | Jul 21 09:05 |
| gustaf | it's more efficient to have a larger community doing the work | Jul 21 09:06 |
| gustaf | schestowitz-TR: it really does look like Muse is doing a Lee instead of competing on the merits of their code | Jul 21 09:06 |
| gustaf | or community | Jul 21 09:06 |
| gustaf | kingoffrance: who is CM in this case? | Jul 21 09:06 |
| gustaf | I personally believe libertarianism is a pernicious ideology | Jul 21 09:07 |
| gustaf | but it's very prevalent online | Jul 21 09:07 |
| kingoffrance | crystal math | Jul 21 09:07 |
| gustaf | oh him ;) | Jul 21 09:08 |
| kingoffrance | just didnt want to highlight | Jul 21 09:08 |
| gustaf | at least he explicitely states that... for many people it's un-acknowledged | Jul 21 09:08 |
| kingoffrance | yes, i dont know where i am on that, but agree with that | Jul 21 09:08 |
| gustaf | doubt we will resolve the open source conumdrum today ;) | Jul 21 09:10 |
| gustaf | FWIW I think Free software / GNU is better in the long run than BSD/MIT | Jul 21 09:11 |
| gustaf | we're seeing digital sharecropping among popular MIT -licensed projects | Jul 21 09:12 |
| gustaf | big corps skimming off free labor | Jul 21 09:12 |
| gustaf | GNU might not have a solution to the "how to get paid writing free software" but it's also not giving away labor for absolutley nothing | Jul 21 09:13 |
| kingoffrance | i guess for me if i was in charge of some project the solution would be: 1) have -social channel 2) duke it out there | Jul 21 09:15 |
| gustaf | lol some people have weird hobbies https://www.npr.org/2014/05/21/314607045/penny-hoarders-hope-for-the-day-the-penny-dies?t=1626851547618 | Jul 21 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Penny Hoarders Hope For The Day The Penny Dies : NPR | Jul 21 09:16 | |
| gustaf | smallest unit of currency in Sweden is the 1 SEK coin, ~10 cents | Jul 21 09:17 |
| activelow | a thought about github crossed my mind, which is activity metrics are kept there which do not account for mine: remove and delete whatever possible | Jul 21 09:19 |
| kingoffrance | i guess, self-hosting means people/projects will make whatever rules for contributions/mailing lists/whatever | Jul 21 09:21 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, more a q of what more organized standards larger entities will enforce or not | Jul 21 09:22 |
| kingoffrance | as general "codes" etc. | Jul 21 09:22 |
| kingoffrance | i know that might sound like a cop out | Jul 21 09:22 |
| kingoffrance | i just not sure what else to say | Jul 21 09:22 |
| kingoffrance | *i am | Jul 21 09:23 |
| kingoffrance | unless someone wants to start wedding codes of conduct to licenses | Jul 21 09:23 |
| kingoffrance | and then, both are jointly required | Jul 21 09:23 |
| kingoffrance | and "self-hosting" is no escape | Jul 21 09:23 |
| kingoffrance | i cant say that will magically work out, but long run perhaps people will gravitate to wherever they feel comfortable | Jul 21 09:25 |
| kingoffrance | not saying it will be pretty | Jul 21 09:25 |
| kingoffrance | or even efficient | Jul 21 09:25 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, if nothing happens, thats what i see happening | Jul 21 09:31 |
| kingoffrance | http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=omen OMEN, n. A sign that something will happen if nothing happens. lol | Jul 21 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- omen | Jul 21 09:32 | |
| kingoffrance | a sign if some other sign doesnt throw it off lol | Jul 21 09:32 |
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| gustaf | "ethical licenses" are an attempt to enforce certain conducts thru licenses | Jul 21 09:38 |
| gustaf | ofc they break freedom 0 | Jul 21 09:39 |
| kingoffrance | yes, i havent really seen such, but its there for people who want them i guess | Jul 21 09:39 |
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| activelow | maybe a software license does not and cannot cover aspects of ethics and morality, besides freedom even | Jul 21 09:45 |
| activelow | GPL can enforce copyleft, as a utility to protect freedom, if possible, which often it isn't regardless of any type of license | Jul 21 09:46 |
| gustaf | it's a narrow sort of freedom | Jul 21 09:50 |
| gustaf | and that's ok | Jul 21 09:50 |
| gustaf | GPL doesn't ensure freedom from surveillance for example | Jul 21 09:50 |
| activelow | and neither most of software development nor any activity in "social control media" are "social" as such | Jul 21 09:56 |
| activelow | nonetheless free software development is framed into a debate about "social" issues, which doesn't help either to cope with such "social" issue nor with free software development itself | Jul 21 09:58 |
| gustaf | even if you just concentrate on the narrow sense of "producing working code" (as opposed to "changing the world") that is a _social_ activity | Jul 21 10:02 |
| gustaf | at least once the group exceeds a certain size | Jul 21 10:02 |
| gustaf | becasue you will get some asshole who will bring up another's gender or sexuality instead of working together for the good of the project | Jul 21 10:03 |
| gustaf | the best CoC are just codifications of the golden rule "don't be a dick" | Jul 21 10:03 |
| activelow | tend to disagree that staring at a computer monitor and programming are a social activity | Jul 21 10:04 |
| gustaf | free software implicitely invites others to collaborate wiht you | Jul 21 10:05 |
| gustaf | even projects like Suckless have participants who engage in debates re: CoC etc | Jul 21 10:07 |
| gustaf | even though they are explicitely "only about the code" | Jul 21 10:07 |
| gustaf | people are social and want to express themselves | Jul 21 10:07 |
| gustaf | this looks interesting https://lichess.org/blog/YPc7GREAACgAevs5/fat-fritz-is-not-the-only-ripoff-and-now-chessbase-is-getting-sued | Jul 21 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fat Fritz is not the Only Ripoff and now ChessBase is Getting Sued | Blog • lichess.org | Jul 21 10:11 | |
| activelow | ^ i think the question is who the author of the relevant sources was, since authors themselves may decide upon what is published and which license applied to their own work | Jul 21 10:27 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #india ☞ India’s Draconian Rules for Internet Platforms Threaten User #Privacy and Undermine #Encryption https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/indias-draconian-rules-internet-platforms-threaten-user-privacy-and-undermine | Jul 21 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | India’s Draconian Rules for Internet Platforms Threaten User Privacy and Undermine Encryption | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 10:52 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #Internet ☞ Victory! #California Can Now Choose Their #Broadband Destiny https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/victory-californians-can-now-choose-their-broadband-destiny | Jul 21 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Victory! Californians Can Now Choose Their Broadband Destiny | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | <kingoffrance> dont disagree. but codes of conduct is not software license, its some other issue | Jul 21 10:55 |
| schestowitz | yes, that it the issue | Jul 21 10:55 |
| schestowitz | attempt to divide us along separate and parallel lines | Jul 21 10:55 |
| schestowitz | it's an old trick | Jul 21 10:55 |
| schestowitz | IRC wars have relied a lot on political divides rather than technical | Jul 21 10:56 |
| schestowitz | When I criticsed OSI for selling out, this is their modus: http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jul 21 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jul 21 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | in the company where I work there is a "no politics" policy | Jul 21 10:57 |
| schestowitz | there is no right or wrong politics | Jul 21 10:57 |
| schestowitz | just not mixing politics with the work | Jul 21 10:57 |
| techrights-news | When "freedom" does not actually mean freedom https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210719/11010147204/maga-freedom-phone-targets-rubes-with-dubious-promises-privacy.shtml | Jul 21 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MAGA 'Freedom Phone' Targets Rubes With Dubious Promises Of Privacy | Techdirt | Jul 21 10:59 | |
| kingoffrance | well im fine im someone says "theres no such thing as neutral"" all politics is everywhere (or personal or whatever) " i just think its 1) a giant can of worms 2) as you said, some places that is not allowed | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | <gustaf> smallest unit of currency in Sweden is the 1 SEK coin, ~10 cents | Jul 21 11:00 |
| kingoffrance | *fine if | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Sweden has been dump enough to sage a wat on cash | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | *dumb | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | *war | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | *wage | Jul 21 11:00 |
| kingoffrance | i guess, let ppl select the organizations they want to associate with etc. | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | with this keyboard I really must proofread | Jul 21 11:00 |
| kingoffrance | im ok with either view, but once that can is open, it never ends seemingly | Jul 21 11:01 |
| kingoffrance | so maybe "neutral" is illusion, but some places still dont want to open that can | Jul 21 11:01 |
| schestowitz | <gustaf> "ethical licenses" are an attempt to enforce certain conducts thru licenses | Jul 21 11:01 |
| schestowitz | violates freedom 0 | Jul 21 11:01 |
| schestowitz | for the sake of someone's political agenda | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | using code to impose one's thinking on others | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | it's an affinity licence | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | you can use my free' work, only as long as I like you... | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | <gustaf> GPL doesn't ensure freedom from surveillance for example | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | apacche does surveillance | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | it logs connections | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | so does some gnu software | Jul 21 11:03 |
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| techrights-news | "If there’s one thing antivaxxers love, it’s citing the Nuremberg Code. We’ve seen it (and I’ve discussed it here) many times before, coming from antivaxxers as diverse in their level of fanaticism as Mike Adams, who has all but called for “Nuremberg-style” trials for pro-vaccine physicians" https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/07/20/the-nuremberg-code-gambit/ | Jul 21 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | The "Nuremberg Code" gambit - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE | Jul 21 11:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ The Eternal October: Bringing Back Tech Optimism, Without The Naivety https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210718/01065747196/eternal-october-bringing-back-tech-optimism-without-naivety.shtml | Jul 21 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Eternal October: Bringing Back Tech Optimism, Without The Naivety | Techdirt | Jul 21 11:08 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Judge Ignores #FirstAmendment , Misreads Town Law, While Ordering Resident To Remove 'Fuck Biden' Signs https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210717/15544047194/judge-ignores-first-amendment-misreads-town-law-while-ordering-resident-to-remove-fuck-biden-signs.shtml #FreeSpeech means you can also give #trump the finger | Jul 21 11:19 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Pegasus Project Shows the Need for Real Device Security, Accountability and Redress for those Facing State-Sponsored Malware https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/nso-group-leak-shows-need-real-device-security-accountability-and-redress-those they mostly target so-called 'phones', which are #espionage magnets even without Pegasus | Jul 21 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Pegasus Project Shows the Need for Real Device Security, Accountability and Redress for those Facing State-Sponsored Malware | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 21 11:34 | |
| techrights-news | #Canonical Pushes New Ubuntu Kernel Updates to All Supported Releases • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153632 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 11:39 |
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| techrights-news | Is Valve CANCELING native games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SFBoB6xijY #games #gnu #linux | Jul 21 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Valve CANCELING native games? - YouTube | Jul 21 12:36 | |
| techrights-news | Valve corrects the RAM specs for the Steam Deck, games should run nicely from SD Card | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/valve-corrects-the-ram-specs-for-the-steam-deck-games-should-run-nicely-from-sd-card ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve corrects the RAM specs for the Steam Deck, games should run nicely from SD Card | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 12:37 | |
| techrights-news | Ryan Gordon and Ethan Lee on Proton and the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/ryan-gordon-and-ethan-lee-on-proton-and-the-steam-deck ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ryan Gordon and Ethan Lee on Proton and the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 12:39 | |
| techrights-news | The Wine 6.13 development release is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153617#comment-30351 | Jul 21 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.13 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:40 | |
| techrights-news | Ryan Gordon and Ethan Lee on Proton and the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/ryan-gordon-and-ethan-lee-on-proton-and-the-steam-deck ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 12:41 |
| techrights-news | Looks like #Splitgate will be the next 'big thing' FPS supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/looks-like-splitgate-will-be-the-next-big-thing-fps-supported-on-linux ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Jul 21 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like Splitgate will be the next 'big thing' FPS supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 12:42 | |
| techrights-news | #Games: Stadia, Valve, and Splitgate • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153633 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Valve, and Splitgate | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:46 | |
| techrights-news | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Files and Permissions – Part 10 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153634 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Files and Permissions – Part 10 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:54 | |
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| techrights-news | #Ubuntu Games for Kids • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153635 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Games for Kids | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:58 | |
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| techrights-news | #Top Android Emulators to Run and Test Android Apps on Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153636 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Android Emulators to Run and Test Android Apps on Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:04 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153637 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:11 | |
| techrights-news | #OpenSourceInitiative ( #OSI ) a Sinking Ship in Service of #Microsoft Monopoly, #ProprietarySoftware , and Even #GPL Violations http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/microsoft-plots-osi/ | Jul 21 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI) a Sinking Ship in Service of Microsoft Monopoly, Proprietary Software, and Even GPL Violations | Techrights | Jul 21 13:27 | |
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| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153638 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 13:27 | |
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| techrights-news | #GraalVM 21.2 Released With New Optimizations, Better Linux AArch64 Support https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GraalVM-21.2 | Jul 21 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GraalVM 21.2 Released With New Optimizations, Better Linux AArch64 Support - Phoronix | Jul 21 14:13 | |
| techrights-news | #google #germany : 20 years of empowering people to control technology https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210721-01.en.html | Jul 21 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | FSFE: 20 years of empowering people to control technology - FSFE | Jul 21 14:14 | |
| techrights-news | Well, #microsoft is ALL about the #corruption https://www.faqforge.com/microsoft-exchange-server-2016/dealing-with-ms-exchange-mailbox-corruption-reasons-solutions/ that's why it still exists: http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | Jul 21 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.faqforge.com | Dealing with MS Exchange Mailbox Corruption – Reasons & Solutions | Jul 21 14:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights | Jul 21 14:15 | |
| techrights-news | #PostgreSQL Weekly News - July 18, 2021 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-weekly-news-july-18-2021-2263/ #psql | Jul 21 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Weekly News - July 18, 2021 | Jul 21 14:17 | |
| techrights-news | #pgSCV 0.7.0 released. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgscv-070-released-2218/ #psql | Jul 21 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgSCV 0.7.0 released. | Jul 21 14:18 | |
| techrights-news | #GUADEC 2021 Online Conference Kicks Off for the GNOME 41 Desktop Environment • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153639 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GUADEC 2021 Online Conference Kicks Off for the GNOME 41 Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Jul 21 14:18 | |
| techrights-news | The #OpenSourceInitiative (OSI), which nowadays approves licences it ought not approve, not only takes funding from enemies of Open Source/Free software (for #openwashing and silence/complicity); it actively promotes them and makes excuses for their attacks on #software reedom http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/microsoft-plots-osi/ | Jul 21 14:19 |
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| techrights-news | Authorization Basics https://www.fosslife.org/authorization-basics | Jul 21 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Authorization Basics | Jul 21 14:52 | |
| MinceR | 21 095208 < gustaf> kingoffrance, schestowitz-TR I see it as an internal "culture war" thing though. Lots of noise about "codes of conduct", anti-LGBT | Jul 21 14:52 |
| MinceR | it isn't really internal | Jul 21 14:52 |
| MinceR | what have the likes of microsoft, ibm and ehmke ever done for free software? | Jul 21 14:53 |
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| techrights-news | Leadership lessons from the company whose leader left, because he was not happy https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/5-it-leadership-mistakes-avoid | Jul 21 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 IT leadership mistakes to avoid: Alabama CIO of the Year winners share | The Enterprisers Project | Jul 21 14:55 | |
| techrights-news | Bootstrap GitOps with Red Hat OpenShift Pipelines and kam CLI | Red Hat Developer ⚓ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/07/21/bootstrap-gitops-red-hat-openshift-pipelines-and-kam-cli ䷉ #developers | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Bootstrap GitOps with Red Hat OpenShift Pipelines and kam CLI | Red Hat Developer | Jul 21 14:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 14:56 | |
| techrights-news | LOLLLL!!!! "Tips on how journalists can avoid getting snooped" over at... yes, #proprietarySoftware with #surveillance and #backdoors https://kushaldas.in/posts/trouble-of-zoom-and-participant-name.html | Jul 21 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Trouble of zoom and participant name | Jul 21 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | This has got to be a joke. #Fedora Magazine is promoting #Microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly and #GPLviolations https://fedoramagazine.org/run-github-actions-on-fedora-coreos/ | Jul 21 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Run GitHub Actions on Fedora CoreOS - Fedora Magazine | Jul 21 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | Planet F#edora becomes inherently satirical, pushing Microsoft's #proprietarysoftware and anti-Linux things | Jul 21 15:03 |
| gustaf | MinceR: you and schestowitz think the corruption is from the outside, I think it's internal | Jul 21 15:03 |
| gustaf | but the issues are there | Jul 21 15:03 |
| gustaf | they're not going away | Jul 21 15:03 |
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| gustaf | and have to be dealt with | Jul 21 15:04 |
| MinceR | i think only the useful idiots are internal | Jul 21 15:04 |
| MinceR | some of them, anyway | Jul 21 15:04 |
| gustaf | No True Open Source Developer | Jul 21 15:04 |
| techrights-news | "Soon after I set up my Rockpro64 board, Peter Robinson told me about an annoying bug that happened on machines with a Rockchip SoC." https://blog.dowhile0.org/2021/07/21/a-framebuffer-hidden-in-plain-sight/ | Jul 21 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dowhile0.org | A framebuffer hidden in plain sight | Blog | Javier Martinez Canillas | Jul 21 15:05 | |
| MinceR | "open source" is dead | Jul 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz | yup | Jul 21 15:06 |
| MinceR | https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2021/07/20/cve-2021-33910-denial-of-service-stack-exhaustion-in-systemd-pid-1 | Jul 21 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qualys.com | CVE-2021-33910: Denial of Service (Stack Exhaustion) in systemd (PID 1) | Qualys Security Blog | Jul 21 15:07 | |
| schestowitz | let's redefine ptroptiatary as "open" | Jul 21 15:07 |
| schestowitz | then... WE WON | Jul 21 15:07 |
| schestowitz | even shithub did this | Jul 21 15:07 |
| schestowitz | friedman... herded free software in proprietary software | Jul 21 15:08 |
| schestowitz | than declariung we won | Jul 21 15:08 |
| schestowitz | who? microsot? | Jul 21 15:08 |
| MinceR | it went from involving suits in free software to parasites sucking free software dry and attempting to kill it off | Jul 21 15:08 |
| MinceR | there's a lesson in there for the community | Jul 21 15:08 |
| techrights-news | "A successful DevOps"... blah blah blah... more #buzzwords ttps://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/cicd-misconceptions-explained-part-2 #redhat #ibm | Jul 21 15:10 |
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| psydruid | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yZJHnwRy34&t=1461s | Jul 21 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dead Desktop Disco | Coder Radio 423 - YouTube | Jul 21 15:24 | |
| techrights-news | Ankush Das back to posting #zemlin SPAM https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-foundation-sysadmin-day-sale/ don't do that please. LF = #proprietarySoftare front group and parasite: http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation | Jul 21 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Linux Foundation Offers $100 Off on Courses & Certifications to Celebrate Sysadmin Day - It's FOSS News | Jul 21 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Jul 21 15:27 | |
| techrights-news | #Nautilus 40 Arrives in Ubuntu 21.10 Daily Builds • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153640 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nautilus 40 Arrives in Ubuntu 21.10 Daily Builds | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:37 | |
| techrights-news | Squeezing More Performance Out Of The Linux Kernel With Clang + LTO • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153641 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Squeezing More Performance Out Of The Linux Kernel With Clang + LTO | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:37 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153642 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:38 | |
| kingoffrance | well, simple fact is, some licenses give freedom 0, others "compel performance". "inclusive" is a red herring. its a q of can anyone force you to be "inclusive" or not | Jul 21 15:40 |
| kingoffrance | and no, us politics never dealth with this | Jul 21 15:40 |
| kingoffrance | they said everyone has to be a federal citizen. confederacy is dead, the end | Jul 21 15:40 |
| kingoffrance | *dealt. | Jul 21 15:41 |
| kingoffrance | thats a bad sign if you look thru that lens | Jul 21 15:41 |
| kingoffrance | means 160 years from now, still wont be over lol | Jul 21 15:41 |
| kingoffrance | no, it can be not dealt with for a long long long long time | Jul 21 15:42 |
| *MinceR wonders how many bits does a long long long have | Jul 21 15:43 | |
| techrights-news | #Sout Korea tables law to remove app stores' in-app purchase #monopolies • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/21/south_korea_in_app_purchase_law/ ䷉ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | South Korea tables law to remove app stores' in-app purchase monopolies • The Register | Jul 21 15:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 15:43 | |
| techrights-news | #Fedora and IBM/Red Hat • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153643 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat | Tux Machines | Jul 21 15:44 | |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/1e9fecc505353cb7.jpg | Jul 21 15:44 |
| techrights-news | LF paying sites for shameless marketing of itself and not #Linux is just more of the same. "Celebrate Sysadmin Day" when LF uses #Windows for it. http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/ | Jul 21 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | Techrights | Jul 21 15:46 | |
| kingoffrance | well my point is not just a "culture war" its different type of "contract" | Jul 21 15:47 |
| kingoffrance | one "use for any purpose" other "you can use to be inclusive only" | Jul 21 15:47 |
| kingoffrance | it does not have to be this way, but if they are not allowed to be separate issues, i dont see any alternative | Jul 21 15:48 |
| kingoffrance | so that might be blunt/hyperbolic, but if they cannot be separate issues, how else can it end up? | Jul 21 15:48 |
| kingoffrance | if they arent separate issues, that switcheroo will have to happen | Jul 21 15:49 |
| kingoffrance | the lens of whether they are separate issues or not, will shape the permitted solutions | Jul 21 15:51 |
| activelow | the confederacy is an anglo-american USA-specific issue, and it isn't a software license issue either | Jul 21 15:52 |
| kingoffrance | conway's law :) remember remember, conway's law | Jul 21 15:52 |
| kingoffrance | scroll up, responding to "just standard US politics thru a free software lens" | Jul 21 15:52 |
| kingoffrance | i didnt want to touch that, but others woke up/commented | Jul 21 15:53 |
| kingoffrance | the issue is can you compel "inclusiveness" or not | Jul 21 15:54 |
| kingoffrance | and is this inherent to software license or not | Jul 21 15:54 |
| kingoffrance | "ethical licenses" say yes | Jul 21 15:54 |
| kingoffrance | non-ethical say no | Jul 21 15:54 |
| activelow | as far as politics are concerned laws exist which prohibit incitement, and it isn't up to some software developers to decide upon this with their license either | Jul 21 15:54 |
| activelow | and no software license can forbid to study history just because some business entities sanction it | Jul 21 15:56 |
| activelow | i am under the impression it sufficed occasionally to do just that: read and think before talking and typing | Jul 21 15:56 |
| kingoffrance | another question is who/waht does "inclusiveness" mean? where does that start/end? | Jul 21 15:57 |
| kingoffrance | i think even someone for that, might wonder is it ever-shifting? | Jul 21 15:57 |
| kingoffrance | the point is, "use for any purpose" will be "incitement" if the 2 must be merged | Jul 21 15:59 |
| kingoffrance | so that doesnt really solve anything | Jul 21 15:59 |
| kingoffrance | should that be redefinition be allowed? | Jul 21 16:00 |
| kingoffrance | what before was not incitement, will be | Jul 21 16:00 |
| techrights-news | CLI Cloud Storage Manager Rclone 1.56.0 Adds New Serve Docker Command, Reworked Config, New librclone C Library • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153646 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CLI Cloud Storage Manager Rclone 1.56.0 Adds New Serve Docker Command, Reworked Config, New librclone C Library | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:00 | |
| techrights-news | #PipeWire 0.3.32 Released With Numerous Fixes • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153645 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PipeWire 0.3.32 Released With Numerous Fixes | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:00 | |
| activelow | by a software license? why? this isn't a concern of software licensing, it is common law. | Jul 21 16:01 |
| techrights-news | #LinuxFoundation Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153644 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:01 | |
| kingoffrance | well, it may not get to that point | Jul 21 16:01 |
| kingoffrance | but if only "ethical" is allowed | Jul 21 16:01 |
| kingoffrance | ...then will people try to outlaw "unethical" "use for any purpose" ? | Jul 21 16:01 |
| activelow | a software license cannot decide upon ethics, even if anyone wanted to | Jul 21 16:02 |
| techrights-news | #privacy issues notwithstanding https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/20/government_launches_plans_for_digital/ | Jul 21 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Verified: UK.gov launching plans for yet another digital identity scheme • The Register | Jul 21 16:02 | |
| techrights-news | " #Linux 5.12 Kernel has reached “End of Life”. #Kernel developer Greg Kroah-Hartman has asked users to upgrade their kernel to 5.13 now." Very short life. Moving too fast? https://itsubuntu.com/linux-5-12-kernel-reaches-end-of-life/ | Jul 21 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 Kernel Reaches End Of Life | Itsubuntu.com | Jul 21 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | #Firebird 4.0 #Docker has been released with images for AMD64, ARM64 and ARM/V7 https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2021/07/firebird-40-docker-has-been-released.html | Jul 21 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mapopa.blogspot.com | Mariuz's Blog: Firebird 4.0 Docker has been released with images for AMD64, ARM64 and ARM/V7 | Jul 21 16:05 | |
| techrights-news | #curl 7.78.0 five in one https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/07/21/curl-7-78-0-five-in-one/ #deletegithub #microsoft #monopoly #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jul 21 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl 7.78.0 five in one | daniel.haxx.se | Jul 21 16:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jul 21 16:07 | |
| activelow | i question the motives and honesty of those who seek to enforce politics with a software license beyond their scope | Jul 21 16:09 |
| kingoffrance | eh, there's a word for when neutral is not allowed: religion | Jul 21 16:10 |
| kingoffrance | again, us politics never solved this | Jul 21 16:10 |
| kingoffrance | there is no solution | Jul 21 16:10 |
| kingoffrance | in that sense i agree with gustaf | Jul 21 16:10 |
| kingoffrance | that raised its head | Jul 21 16:10 |
| techrights-news | Increase security???? You already gave all YOUR mail and OTHER PEOPLE'S mail to Gulag and NSA. What security are you talking about? What #gmail drug are you smoking :-) h https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-gmail-security-with-bimi/ | Jul 21 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Aims to Increase Gmail Security with BIMI - Make Tech Easier | Jul 21 16:12 | |
| kingoffrance | or, more generally, just incompatible philosophies | Jul 21 16:12 |
| techrights-news | Company owned by Microsofters: "Has Microsoft figured out a way to invalidate the GPL? We're skeptical." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145652/dead-desktop-disco-coder-radio-423/ say who? http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/ | Jul 21 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Dead Desktop Disco | Coder Radio 423 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Jul 21 16:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights | Jul 21 16:14 | |
| kingoffrance | i pretty much agree with you activelow | Jul 21 16:15 |
| kingoffrance | just...theres no answer | Jul 21 16:15 |
| kingoffrance | not without opening more cans of worms | Jul 21 16:15 |
| activelow | i remember some exemplary debates, about north german confederation, which merely is german history, and mentioning it sufficed to be defamed as "right wing extremist" recently | Jul 21 16:16 |
| activelow | while historical facts are, hanseatic league was a predecessor of current European Union and international trade | Jul 21 16:17 |
| kingoffrance | yes, daemon said something about "window of permissable discourse" | Jul 21 16:17 |
| kingoffrance | if such a redefinition did occur, then you generally wont be able to discuss the old system | Jul 21 16:17 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, SteamDeck, KDE Connect, Coder Radio • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153647 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, SteamDeck, KDE Connect, Coder Radio | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:17 | |
| activelow | i don't need any permission from a software license to read about german and european history, and a software license or business entities who seek to sanction this are on my list to "boycott" | Jul 21 16:19 |
| techrights-news | #proprietarySoftware drivers should always be presumed a #security hole, e.g. #hp with its keyloggers as "drivers" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/nvidia-announce-new-security-issues-make-sure-you-have-updated-drivers | Jul 21 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA announce new security issues, make sure you have updated drivers | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 16:19 | |
| activelow | a software license and some business entities cannot and must not define what constitutional rights were supposed to be | Jul 21 16:20 |
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| techrights-news | SPAMnil again helping blatant GPL violators sell #proprietarySoftware ... the #linuxfoundation is, like Bruce Pernes put it, a #GPL violators' club http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ | Jul 21 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights | Jul 21 16:21 | |
| kingoffrance | i did see someone arguing software devs should be licensed due to security holes/etc. and need held accountable | Jul 21 16:21 |
| kingoffrance | which im not sure intersects, just q who might be "exempt" if that came to pass | Jul 21 16:22 |
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| techrights-news | Defending Against Spyware Like #Pegasus https://puri.sm/posts/defending-against-spyware-like-pegasus/ #freesw is safer, but on a 'phone' nothing is safe from mass #surveillance because of the networking | Jul 21 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Defending Against Spyware Like Pegasus – Purism | Jul 21 16:22 | |
| kingoffrance | OTOH, if business uses ms or <insert product here> is that the devs fault some company used something <not how it was designed> <for purpose it was not designed for> <in critical situation it was not designed for> etc. | Jul 21 16:24 |
| kingoffrance | i dont see how a dev can be blamed someone misuses their software | Jul 21 16:24 |
| kingoffrance | IIRC ms used to have this buried in license text | Jul 21 16:24 |
| activelow | probably not an issue of software licensing: sabotage and industrial espionage are illegal anyway, doesn't require additional license terms | Jul 21 16:25 |
| kingoffrance | well, they meant developers need license to write code | Jul 21 16:25 |
| kingoffrance | since e.g. other types of professionals need to be licensed etc. | Jul 21 16:26 |
| kingoffrance | on the theory this would reduce security holes etc. | Jul 21 16:26 |
| kingoffrance | and shoddy people/companies could no longer conduct business | Jul 21 16:26 |
| kingoffrance | if they made crappy software | Jul 21 16:26 |
| kingoffrance | license would be suspended/pulled | Jul 21 16:26 |
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| kingoffrance | or maybe they'd need a bond lol | Jul 21 16:26 |
| techrights-news | #IBM and #Google uses the so-called 'Linux' Foundation to centralise control over what you can and cannot install on your own system https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/sigstore-open-answer-software-supply-chain-trust-and-security see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148632#comment-28571 | Jul 21 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Sigstore: An open answer to software supply chain trust and security | Jul 21 16:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Git, Tor, and Fake (Monopolised, Centralised) 'Security' From Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:26 | |
| activelow | a University degree or other education are granted by, well a university or school, independent from some big business | Jul 21 16:27 |
| activelow | couldn't follow argument how a software license should guarantee sufficient education | Jul 21 16:27 |
| activelow | besides, academic freedom | Jul 21 16:27 |
| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153648 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 16:28 | |
| activelow | and an employee's contract with a corporation can be terminted if bad quality code is produced, in compliance with labor market legislation | Jul 21 16:28 |
| activelow | if big corporations couldn't arrange for labor contracts to do so no idea who software licensing should address this | Jul 21 16:29 |
| activelow | *how | Jul 21 16:29 |
| kingoffrance | i agree, just was noting "use for any purpose" would not matter, because only professionals could write code for certain purposes | Jul 21 16:30 |
| activelow | "use for any purpose" only means the license itself doesn't impose restrictions. this doesn't imply other legal restrictions apply: which sanction sabotage, industrial espionage, proliferation, money laundring or any other illegal activity | Jul 21 16:32 |
| kingoffrance | agree | Jul 21 16:32 |
| activelow | a software license cannot and does not terminate other law, or constitutional rights | Jul 21 16:33 |
| techrights-news | #Blender3d has been racking up lots of money from enemies of software freedom lately https://linuxiac.com/adobe-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-a-corporate-gold-member/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/blender-payments-from-microsoft-and-unity/ | Jul 21 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Adobe Joins the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Gold Member | Jul 21 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Hand Inside the Blender: Microsoft Money for Blender’s Development Fund is Not a ‘Cookie Jar’ Donation But Another Power Move | Techrights | Jul 21 16:33 | |
| kingoffrance | i agree, but many dont | Jul 21 16:34 |
| kingoffrance | "social contract" | Jul 21 16:34 |
| kingoffrance | thats all the law and gov is -- one giant contract | Jul 21 16:34 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] #Microsoft Does to Free Software Projects What Bill Gates Has Done to the Media for Two Decades • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/tainted-microsoft-money/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/23/tainted-microsoft-money/ | Jul 21 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft Does to Free Software Projects What Bill Gates Has Done to the Media for Two Decades | Techrights | Jul 21 16:34 | |
| kingoffrance | *all it is to some ppl | Jul 21 16:34 |
| techrights-news | It’s 2020 and Some GNU/Linux Sites Still Celebrate Mono, Even When Microsoft Owns and Controls It Directly • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/helping-mono/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/27/helping-mono/ | Jul 21 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It’s 2020 and Some GNU/Linux Sites Still Celebrate Mono, Even When Microsoft Owns and Controls It Directly | Techrights | Jul 21 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | Turn Away From Microsoft Money (Influence for Sale) • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/influence-for-sale-to-microsoft/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/20/influence-for-sale-to-microsoft/ | Jul 21 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Turn Away From Microsoft Money (Influence for Sale) | Techrights | Jul 21 16:36 | |
| techrights-news | Jack Wallen -- like his publisher (mouthpiece of Microsoft and Linux Foundation) -- for adding bloat, complexity and Microsoft GitHub/blobs to Linux kernel https://www.techrepublic.com/article/let-the-linux-kernel-rust/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ | Jul 21 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Let the Linux kernel Rust - TechRepublic | Jul 21 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights | Jul 21 16:42 | |
| psydruid | > [notice] techrights.org | It’s 2020 and Some GNU/Linux Sites Still Celebrate Mono, Even When Microsoft Owns and Controls It Directly | Techrights | Jul 21 16:43 |
| psydruid | There is something shipped in Ubuntu and Debian which still pulls in Mono, as I recently found out when I suddenly had lots of updates for it | Jul 21 16:43 |
| techrights-news | Deep inside #Torvalds must have reached acceptance of the fact that he's no longer in charge of Linux because of financial strings of monopolies. http://techrights.org/2019/10/30/losing-control-of-linux/ | Jul 21 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Torvalds ‘Aging Faster’ Since Losing Control of Linux | Techrights | Jul 21 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | psydruid: can you find out what that was? | Jul 21 16:44 |
| schestowitz | we still need to eradicate it | Jul 21 16:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono | Jul 21 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono - Techrights | Jul 21 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | might also need to update http://techrights.org/wiki/Mono_Applications | Jul 21 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono Applications - Techrights | Jul 21 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | it's over a decade out of date | Jul 21 16:45 |
| techrights-news | 319 terabits – great Scott! Boffins in Japan speed along information superhighway at new world record https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/19/319_terabits_internet_speed/ meanwhile in #uk : http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/dont-fall-for-residential-fibre/ | Jul 21 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 319 terabits – great Scott! Boffins in Japan speed along information superhighway at new world record • The Register | Jul 21 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » The Optical Fibre Experience — Part IV | Jul 21 16:46 | |
| psydruid | schestowitz, there are still many packages which depend on it, so I'm hesitant to completely remove them now | Jul 21 16:48 |
| psydruid | But I will try to document what I see is being removed when I issue a command purge all Mono packages, as I have a full Debian install (I installed almost everything) | Jul 21 16:48 |
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| techrights-news | #RimWorld 1.3 and the Ideology DLC are officially out now | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/rimworld-13-and-the-ideology-dlc-are-officially-out-now ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest | Jul 21 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RimWorld 1.3 and the Ideology DLC are officially out now | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jul 21 16:55 | |
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| techrights-news | "Operations Manager specifically to build a premium customer experience for current and future Mozilla’s paid products." CHOKE CHOKE... https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/07/21/introducing-joseph-cuevas/ ䷉ #Mozilla #WWW #FreeSW #Firefox #Internet | Jul 21 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Introducing Joseph Cuevas – The Mozilla Support Blog | Jul 21 16:58 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/6a33a1a7985afe73.jpg | Jul 21 17:00 |
| techrights-news | Some 'Linux' sites still foolishly promote a Microsoft PR stunt that's a Microsoft 'distro' of Linux; they used several similar stunts in the past | Jul 21 17:00 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▆▇▆▅▆▇▅▇▅▁▃▂▃▆▆▄▆▄▅▅▄▂▄▂▃▅▃▆▄▄▆▂▁ avg(k/sec) 23.50 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▃▂█▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 19.90▕ swarm size (avg): 285.72 ⟲ | Jul 21 17:03 |
| kingoffrance | to answer your q MinceR , i like c89, before they started mandating bits lol | Jul 21 17:05 |
| kingoffrance | so, long long long >= long long is good enough for me lol | Jul 21 17:06 |
| psydruid | so long long long, welcome a long long long long | Jul 21 17:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 17:07 |
| techrights-news | #Databases: Firebird 4.0 and PostgreSQL • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153649 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Databases: Firebird 4.0 and PostgreSQL | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:08 | |
| techrights-news | #microsoft 'loves' Linux like I love COVID | Jul 21 17:09 |
| kingoffrance | should be noted, leenode is a good example of the "contracts/business > gov" | Jul 21 17:26 |
| kingoffrance | even if it somewhat tongue-in-cheek or a joke etc. | Jul 21 17:27 |
| kingoffrance | *if it is | Jul 21 17:27 |
| kingoffrance | can a corporation be autonomous? no, but doesnt stop them from trying | Jul 21 17:27 |
| MinceR | they can take over the government | Jul 21 17:29 |
| kingoffrance | touche :) | Jul 21 17:29 |
| techrights-news | Links 21/7/2021: Kaisen Linux Rolling 1.7, PipeWire 0.3.32, GUADEC 2021 Online Conference Starts • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/pipewire-0-3-32/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/21/pipewire-0-3-32/ | Jul 21 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/7/2021: Kaisen Linux Rolling 1.7, PipeWire 0.3.32, GUADEC 2021 Online Conference Starts | Techrights | Jul 21 17:30 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary #Games and #ProprietarySoftware • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153650 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Games and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:31 | |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153651 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:32 | |
| kingoffrance | not sure exactly how that goes, just whatever legal entity is chartered by some gov | Jul 21 17:32 |
| techrights-news | #Tor Releases and #Mozilla "Paid Products" • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153652 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:32 |
| kingoffrance | so llc ltd whatever, still applies | Jul 21 17:32 |
| activelow | they cannot re-write constitution | Jul 21 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Releases and Mozilla "Paid Products" | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:32 | |
| kingoffrance | they try :) | Jul 21 17:32 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:music) https://i.imgur.com/7sSUL9k.mp4 | Jul 21 17:32 |
| techrights-news | #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153653 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:32 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153654 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jul 21 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | psydruid: there are commands under apt for checking what's chained to mono | Jul 21 17:40 |
| activelow | psydruid: this should provide detailed information about the dependency graph https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/149805/how-to-find-the-packages-that-depend-on-a-certain-package-in-apt | Jul 21 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | debian - How to find the packages that depend on a certain package in apt? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange | Jul 21 17:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: re anonymous corporations, depends on country.. | Jul 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | .in uk we have companies house | Jul 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz | https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | Jul 21 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | Companies House service | Jul 21 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | so you can also find out a lot about what company YOU work for | Jul 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz | not just tyhers | Jul 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz | if they register abroad, it can be considered secretive and dodgy | Jul 21 17:46 |
| kingoffrance | yes, im not sure we'll ever know, since ppl asking where servers are didnt seem to get answers | Jul 21 17:47 |
| kingoffrance | not picking on freenode either, just saying "seems to be an example of that school of thought" is all | Jul 21 17:48 |
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| activelow | another debate i stumbled upon again recently was bitcoin: which was considered a utility to protect against autoritarian regimes. seems inplausible since it is exchanges required anyway to swap btc against fiat cash. | Jul 21 17:51 |
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| activelow | and a btc transaction requires energy equivalent to driving 1000km with a car, i heard | Jul 21 17:53 |
| kingoffrance | well, old ancient precursor hashcash that was the point. purposely make it use resources, to combat spam | Jul 21 17:54 |
| kingoffrance | not sure tehre is any direct lineage there, just people saying all the resources used....seems to have come full circle | Jul 21 17:54 |
| kingoffrance | that was the original intention :) | Jul 21 17:55 |
| activelow | don't know how anyone could argue BTC protected against autoritarian regimes with a straight face to begin with | Jul 21 17:55 |
| kingoffrance | i dont know, it means those who can afford power bill get richer, i never saw it as an "equalizing" much | Jul 21 17:56 |
| kingoffrance | to be fair, im not sure it was ever marketed as such | Jul 21 17:56 |
| activelow | this argument was presented by "finance news" broadcasted in public german tv, funded by tax payers | Jul 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > of note: starting at about the hour mark, a discussion of bill gates | Jul 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > malaria work wrt its legality | Jul 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > tl;dr probably illegal, if arguably beneficial long term | Jul 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.noagendashow.net/listen/70 | Jul 21 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noagendashow.net | 70: Short Changed - No Agenda | Jul 21 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | > <https://www.noagendashow.net/listen/70> | Jul 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2011 | Jul 21 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Jul 21 18:01 | |
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| alextee | https://www.reviewgeek.com/92661/microsofts-new-linux-distro-is-a-warning-shot-at-red-hat/ | Jul 21 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reviewgeek.com | Microsoft’s New Linux Distro Is a Warning Shot at Red Hat – Review Geek | Jul 21 18:46 | |
| MinceR | why, does it lack systemd? | Jul 21 18:47 |
| kingoffrance | activelow, was that program trying to convince people to use such things, or just trying to be informational? | Jul 21 18:47 |
| alextee | it does? would be very funny | Jul 21 18:47 |
| MinceR | well, otherwise it would be a "warning shot" delivered into their own head | Jul 21 18:47 |
| alextee | that's probably clickbait by the article author | Jul 21 18:48 |
| alextee | microsoft gives credit to GNU and FSF at the bottom of the README | Jul 21 18:48 |
| alextee | https://github.com/microsoft/CBL-Mariner | Jul 21 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - microsoft/CBL-Mariner: Linux OS for Azure 1P services and edge appliances | Jul 21 18:48 | |
| alextee | this is the first time I've seen them acknowledge that GNU/FSF exist | Jul 21 18:48 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, if china blocks btc or whatever which they did in some fashion, then i can see maybe not gov, but ppl trying to push it as "freedom coin" | Jul 21 18:49 |
| kingoffrance | which i think would be a giant fallacy, but will probably happen | Jul 21 18:49 |
| MinceR | "look out ibm, we can make our own customers beholden to you, and if you aren't careful enough, we'll even make them buy support from you!" | Jul 21 18:50 |
| activelow | kingoffrance: all public broadcasting is bound by a type of charta in germany. such publicly funded TV must be neutral/balanced and inform the public | Jul 21 18:50 |
| activelow | i question their motives with BTC, since by coincidence it is those who benefit most from BTC who are selling "mining" equipment listed at stock exchange | Jul 21 18:51 |
| kingoffrance | it may or may not be "freedom coin" but would be giant mistake IMO to say "x is against it, therefore pro is good" | Jul 21 18:51 |
| kingoffrance | whatever it is, xyz is against it i think is not a proper gauge | Jul 21 18:52 |
| kingoffrance | at least in general | Jul 21 18:53 |
| kingoffrance | i can see marketing devolving into single-dimensionality quickly anyway | Jul 21 18:54 |
| activelow | it is somewhat ironic, one moment BTC is portrayed as utility to protect against autoritarian regimes, with a single transaction requiring excess amount of energy, and next moment public TV weather report spreads the lie global temperature increase was limited to 2.5°C, meanwhile according to my rough estimates climate change temperature anomalies surpass 10°C in germany already | Jul 21 18:55 |
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| activelow | add to this the glorious "energy revolution" in germany had cost trillions of cash since year ~2000 already, to subsidise solar panels and wind turbines which contribute 0% of energy into the industrial energy grid, according to IfO Munich | Jul 21 19:09 |
| activelow | another such common propaganda lie, renewable energy had any relevant market share at all in germany, while it is effectively close to below ~1% in total | Jul 21 19:10 |
| activelow | truth is Germany relies on coal power plants (80% iirc), since it cannot compensate for the nuclear power shut down otherwise, and the renewable scam cannot either of cause | Jul 21 19:15 |
| activelow | so, next brilliant idea and propaganda scam was to agitate for "electric vehicles" by those "eco activists" (many of whom are usa-minions, atlantik brücke) | Jul 21 19:16 |
| activelow | electric vehicles will increase the electrical energy demans even further, with even more coal burned - this is what those "green" "eco actvists" agitate for, to benefit coal power plants and tsla shareholders | Jul 21 19:17 |
| activelow | in the realm of EU politics madhouse crazyness is unlimited, since there it is industry politics to sanction german manufacturing (germany didn't de-industrialize as much as other EU nations so even if an fake climate activism there didn't benefit climate it certainly will harm economy) | Jul 21 19:22 |
| activelow | the only relevant policy implemented was dismantling east-german industry (a minority of people which couldn't defend against mass dismissals ordered by western bureacucrtats after 1990) | Jul 21 19:23 |
| activelow | another propaganda lie was the "carbon tax", which is, such a tax exists in germany already, for 20years, with zero benefit except for those who distribute the cash (atlantik brücke minions mostly: Merkel, Röttgen, Merz Blackrock CEO, many "Alliance90/greens", it is a long list of those) | Jul 21 19:28 |
| activelow | all of them being enthusiast EU supporters of cause, regularly traveling to washington to express their gratitude for the blessings of USA | Jul 21 19:30 |
| activelow | guess who opposes this most prominently? https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-germany-and-us-strike-deal/a-58575935 | Jul 21 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nord Stream 2: Germany and US strike deal | News | DW | 21.07.2021 | Jul 21 19:33 | |
| activelow | WRONG: "The United States worries that Russia could cut off energy supplies to Ukraine or other countries as a form of aggression", truth is it was Ukrainians who rerouted supplies before the conflict there escalated (with Burisma/London and Biden clan involved), not Russians | Jul 21 19:39 |
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| activelow | those who agitate for "paris agreement" climate agenda are mouthpieces of the western oil industry, since temperature anomalies surpassed 10°C already in germany and those 2.5°C published by public news are fraudulent to begin with | Jul 21 19:52 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.accessnow.org/checking-up-on-big-tech-who-responded-to-the-2020-rdr-index/ | Jul 21 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | The 2020 RDR Index: which Big Tech responded to our recommendations? | Jul 21 19:56 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.accessnow.org/government-spyware-raging/ | Jul 21 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Unsafe and unchecked: government use of spyware raging around the world - Access Now | Jul 21 19:56 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/20/pegasus-project-india-modi-treason-spyware-snooping-scandal | Jul 21 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aljazeera.com | India’s PM Modi accused of ‘treason’ over Pegasus spyware scandal | Technology News | Al Jazeera | Jul 21 19:57 | |
| activelow | ^ i suspect this is propaganda too, since most equipment is probably tapped already, without the need for further spyware for governmental agencies | Jul 21 19:58 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/7458da3ec4507ec1.jpg | Jul 21 20:04 |
| activelow | the CO2 temperature argument is pseudo-science, CO2 increased ~+30%, methane concentration increased ~+300%!!! (and no, this wasn't cows farting into the atmosphere as those "eco activist" usa propaganda-minions claim, it was methane blowouts in california, deep water horizon blowout and similar) | Jul 21 20:12 |
| AdmFubar | uhm no those are from my personal blowouts! :"> | Jul 21 20:13 |
| activelow | whichever newspaper i read in germany, full of lies: "If Laschet wants to become chancellor, he must take these concerns seriously and finally come clean about how he intends to reduce CO2 emissions in concrete terms". for what? carbon tax? | Jul 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | iirc methane is also freed from permafrost due to global warming | Jul 21 20:15 |
| activelow | maybe, what is confirmed are the methane blowouts from "deep water horizon" and another record blowout in california | Jul 21 20:16 |
| activelow | oil industry prefers to distract from *dirty* energy production, instead consumption is taxed to redistribute cash (not climate protection) | Jul 21 20:18 |
| activelow | in parallel to the climate pseudo science the propaganda campaign hooked onto arguments related to migration in germany, which is even more challenging | Jul 21 20:23 |
| activelow | since this is what the carbon tax increase is required for: to compensate the related costs (among other social issues like mass unemployment) | Jul 21 20:24 |
| activelow | and with this, again, almost everything which is published is lies and propaganda, beginning with the relevant demographic data | Jul 21 20:26 |
| activelow | some plausible arguments were: immigration is required to compensate low birth rate and secure pension funds, and immigration was required for the labor market | Jul 21 20:27 |
| activelow | truth is: population size in germany *increased*, 3 million, although it should have shrunk since 1990, population size increased (so much for climate protection) | Jul 21 20:28 |
| activelow | and, although population size increased: pension funds are not secured, and lack of staff is reported although many million immigrants arrived | Jul 21 20:29 |
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| activelow | and anyone questioning this wisdom is defamed as "right wing extremist", "climate denier", "conspiracy theorist", meanwhile public news channels and TV spread nothing but lies | Jul 21 20:32 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArprk0q9eE | Jul 21 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Particle Breaks Time Symmetry - YouTube | Jul 21 20:33 | |
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| activelow | up until when a record flood hit villages, many of them established in river-beds and swamp regions, and CO2 required further taxation they say now, which is the argument presented ahead of the national parliament elections in germany | Jul 21 20:44 |
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| activelow | Merkel government increased the cars on german roads by 5 million in absolute numbers iirc, 5 million more cars (not less) in 16 years | Jul 21 20:56 |
| activelow | most of the climate propaganda nonsense originates in the "transatlantik" realm of politics, which is 99% west-german, their corporations, media channels, and politics, and Merkel portrayed as east-german, which she isn't and probably never was | Jul 21 20:56 |
| activelow | wouldn't surprise me if this puppet "won" the next "democratic election" in germany: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/news/transcripts/annalena-baerbock-on-a-transatlantic-green-deal-and-german-strategies-in-facing-russia-and-china/ | Jul 21 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlanticcouncil.org | Annalena Baerbock on a ‘transatlantic green deal’ and German strategies in facing Russia and China - Atlantic Council | Jul 21 20:57 | |
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| activelow | a person whose german language skills wouldn't suffice for an undergraduate degree | Jul 21 20:59 |
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| DaemonFC | American colleges don't generally care if you are intelligent in any meaning of the word. | Jul 21 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Got money? Get in there. Got student loans? They have classes! | Jul 21 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | They'll get it all out of you eventually so low interest rates.... | Jul 21 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost impossible to the point of not worth trying to discharge student loans in bankruptcy. In fact, the major reason for people with student loans to file bankruptcy is to clear other debts that wouldn't have driven them under without the student loans, so they can direct more income towards the student loans. | Jul 21 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've noticed that the general demeanor of people you run into in public has changed for the worse. | Jul 21 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | There was some sort of world happiness score that I saw the other day. It rated the US as 7.5 and South Africa as 5. I said, "Well, South Africa is under martial law.....". | Jul 21 21:23 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.osnews.com/story/133727/revealed-leak-uncovers-global-abuse-of-cyber-surveillance-weapon/ | Jul 21 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Revealed: leak uncovers global abuse of cyber-surveillance weapon – OSnews | Jul 21 21:27 | |
| AdmFubar | https://eclecticlight.co/2021/07/18/last-week-on-my-mac-the-perils-of-m1-ownership/ | Jul 21 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | Last Week on My Mac: The perils of M1 Ownership – The Eclectic Light Company | Jul 21 21:33 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/cisa-warns-of-stealthy-malware-found-on-hacked-pulse-secure-devices/ | Jul 21 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | CISA warns of stealthy malware found on hacked Pulse Secure devices | Jul 21 21:35 | |
| psymin | see the linux foundation survey about inclusion? | Jul 21 21:42 |
| AdmFubar | WTF? https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/20/venmo-removes-its-global-public-feed-in-a-significant-app-redesign/ | Jul 21 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Venmo removes its global, public feed as part of a major redesign – TechCrunch | Jul 21 21:57 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210719/09354047203/axios-parrots-lot-dumb-debunked-nonsense-about-net-neutrality.shtml | Jul 21 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Axios Parrots A Lot Of Dumb, Debunked Nonsense About Net Neutrality | Techdirt | Jul 21 22:00 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210713/08322647160/2021-bullshit-broadband-cable-tv-fees-are-somehow-still-thing.shtml | Jul 21 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's 2021 And Bullshit Broadband And Cable TV Fees Are Somehow Still A Thing | Techdirt | Jul 21 22:01 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210716/16180947186/seventh-circuit-says-reluctantly-that-18-months-pole-mounted-camera-surveillance-isnt-unconstitutional.shtml | Jul 21 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seventh Circuit Says (Reluctantly) That 18 Months Of Pole-Mounted Camera Surveillance Isn't Unconstitutional | Techdirt | Jul 21 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-booster-shots-are-probably-on-the-way/ar-AAMphrK | Jul 21 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Covid Booster Shots Are Probably on the Way | Jul 21 22:10 | |
| DaemonFC | COVID booster shots are probably going to happen. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| AdmFubar | https://eclecticlight.co/2021/07/19/are-there-flaws-in-some-arm64-instructions/ | Jul 21 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | Are there flaws in some ARM64 instructions? – The Eclectic Light Company | Jul 21 22:10 | |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/07/21/threes_asa_fastest_5g/ | Jul 21 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Watchdog slaps down Three's claims to be building the UK's 'fastest 5G network' – again • The Register | Jul 21 22:11 | |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/07/21/gartner_op_tech_risk/ | Jul 21 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Hijacked, rampaging infrastructure will kill humans by 2025 – Gartner • The Register | Jul 21 22:14 | |
| activelow | apropos 5G, vodafone insisted my old cable modem had to be replaced, and the new one automatically enables WLAN with every reboot | Jul 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz | What is she on about? http://deblanc.net/blog/2021/07/21/updates-2/ | Jul 21 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deblanc.net | Updates (2) | Life on M | Jul 21 22:14 | |
| schestowitz | seems like ma mindless rambloe | Jul 21 22:14 |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/07/21/steve_jobs_application_nft_auction/ | Jul 21 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Former ad exec sticks Steve Jobs' 1973 job application in a scanner for physical-versus-digital NFT auction • The Register | Jul 21 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | cult | Jul 21 22:15 |
| activelow | furthermore this new router/modem requires twice as much electricity, 10watts instead of 5w | Jul 21 22:15 |
| activelow | and, it is dual-stack lite now, without any public ipv4 anymore, which vodafone said they would enable for this router, but they didn't | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "I feel like I haven’t had a lot to say about open source or, in general, tech for a while. From another perspective, I have a whole lot of heady things to say about open source and technology and writing about it seems like a questionable use of time when I have so much other writing and reading and job hunting to do. I will briefly share the two ideas I am obsessed with at the moment, and then try to write more about them later." | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | She says "open source" | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | enough pretending then | Jul 21 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast isn't bitching about my old Netgear gateway from 2013, and it still tests at the rated speed even over my VPN. | Jul 21 22:17 |
| AdmFubar | probably wrote while stoned | Jul 21 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | So as long as they don't give it the boot, I can't see a reason to spend more. | Jul 21 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | By the time they do, a lot of these expensive 32x16 DOCSIS 3.1 gateways will be "Amazon recertified" for $70. | Jul 21 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Whereas they'd cost me $200+ now. | Jul 21 22:18 |
| activelow | i am surprised the 10year old modem required only 50% of electricity, while the new one is manufactured with modern semiconductors, 10watts is very much | Jul 21 22:19 |
| activelow | and i am rather angry vodafone can enable WLAN in my flat, without my consent, it is the operator who configurs the router | Jul 21 22:20 |
| activelow | this is the fourth time vodafone (UK) cheated beyond limits | Jul 21 22:23 |
| activelow | since when kabeldeutschland was "sold" to them | Jul 21 22:23 |
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| activelow | and, no more public ipv4, which isn't "internet", this is some private LAN with access outbound behind a proxy, which i am paying for 31Euros monthly for 32mbit/2mbit | Jul 21 22:25 |
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| DaemonFC | If you rent a Comcrap modem, they open up a public wifi network on it for their other customers, and in return, you add $14 a month to your bill. | Jul 21 22:43 |
| activelow | the router LED for WLAN doesn't at least indicate it is activated, i can only see this in the config menu, and even if i deactivate WLAN with the next reboot it is enabled again. add to this remote provisioning by vodafone which they silently do/did. | Jul 21 22:44 |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/7a9pNMB.mp4 | Jul 21 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Wingstop says that inflation on chicken wings has gotten so bad that the wholesale price is up over 500% vs. what they paid last year. | Jul 21 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | They switched to chicken thighs with wing sauce because those only cost about double what they paid for wings last year. | Jul 21 22:47 |
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| DaemonFC | I always thought that wings were overrated. They used to be the cheapest part of the chicken until bars started serving them, and then the price went up from like 19 cents per pound just so the shop could get rid of them to like over $3. | Jul 21 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Mom quit buying chicken breasts because of inflation and started buying chicken thighs for everything that calls for chicken breasts. | Jul 21 22:49 |
| activelow | 19cents/500grams is very cheap, in comparison to supermarket prices in germany (~60cents/100grams) | Jul 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Before the inflation she always said she hated dark meat and would demand that they put all white meat chicken in the buckets at KFC. | Jul 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't charge much more for that back then. | Jul 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> 19cents/500grams is very cheap, in comparison to supermarket prices in germany (~60cents/100grams) | Jul 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Chicken is still the cheapest thing in the meat department. It'll take years for the beef industry to recover from the mess that COVID made. | Jul 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have to wait until markdown day and when steak is 40% off now to pay what the normal price was last year. | Jul 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Then I hurry up and freeze it. | Jul 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Of course with the sticker shock, they sell less of it at full price and then they do mark down more of it than they used to. | Jul 21 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that for whatever reason, Walmart tends to order more halal chicken than they sell and so it's marked down constantly, so my freezer is full of it. | Jul 21 22:53 |
| activelow | quality cattle beef is even more expensive, 1Euro/100grams or more. separator meat from pork is affordable still, and grinded burger pork meat. suspect many immigrants do not eat it. | Jul 21 22:54 |
| activelow | the argument to justify this in germany was "climate", same with electricty prices, nonetheless all those carbon taxation isn't enough. no surprise, since those taxes never were intended for "climate change". | Jul 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's running $12.97 per pound for USDA Choice sirloin, and that's at Walmart. | Jul 21 22:55 |
| activelow | next price shock will be when "bio fuels" are agitated for, to burn corn and wheat as petrol. | Jul 21 22:55 |
| activelow | which is on the agenda of those "eco activist" safe the planet climate agitators | Jul 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | If you want grass fed, it'll run clear over $14, and if you go to Jewel-Osco add about 15% on top of either figure. | Jul 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I switched my Discover account to one with rotating 5% categories. | Jul 21 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I figure I have 6 months until it's grocery stores, and when it is I'll have my freezer emptied and I'll go to Aldi and load up on steak and chicken. | Jul 21 22:57 |
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| AdmFubar | buy beef cuts of flank, hanger, flat iron, skirt steaks.. they are lower cost and tastier...:) | Jul 21 22:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.actionsack.com/Tedimayozarks/status/1417929846630535170#m | Jul 21 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Tedi (@Tedimayozarks): "#privacyonline #jesusspokeinparables Thoughts? http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/" | nitter | Jul 21 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpanishNorseman/status/1417470467603054629 | Jul 21 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpanishNorseman: I suppose we should have known it was too good to be true... https://t.co/gWCpBf9Us2 | Jul 21 23:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights | Jul 21 23:01 | |
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| activelow | schestowitz: DDG does not block access through onions, DDG does not require any javascript either. google search is worse than DDG. | Jul 21 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I posted this elsewhere but it's sort of tech-related. | Jul 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Aldi doesn't save you much money these days. | Jul 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Back in the day, they didn't accept credit cards because they didn't want to pay the network fees. As soon as they started taking them, the price of groceries went up to damned near what they cost at Walmart, sometimes more. | Jul 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Someone is going to pay the 2-3% card network fees, and it's going to be everybody even if you don't use the cards. | Jul 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | I used to go out of my way to shop at Aldi because they didn't make me pay more for food so someone with an AmEx could save for a trip to Disney with my grocery money. | Jul 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | But now, nope. | Jul 21 23:11 |
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| DaemonFC | The Federal Reserve has studied the issue, and found that they are an upwards wealth redistribution from the poor to the rich. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-wealthtransfer-idUSTRE66P50S20100726 | Jul 21 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Credit card fees transfer wealth to rich, study finds | Reuters | Jul 21 23:15 | |
| DaemonFC | On top of this problem, the IRS also gives people who receive the rewards a pass for the income by not taxing it. They don't care how much you bring in, even if it's over the normal $600 that would trigger a form 1099. | Jul 21 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.drupal.org/sa-core-2021-004 | Jul 21 23:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you see where TurboTax is no longer offering a free tax filing product for simple returns? | Jul 21 23:17 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not sure this is applicable to our sites, but a client has tons of stuff added." | Jul 21 23:17 |
| schestowitz | "Exploitation may be possible if contrib or custom code uses the library to extract tar archives (for example .tar, .tar.gz, .bz2, or .tlz) which come from a potentially untrusted source." | Jul 21 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | The IRS dropped a promise not to develop a direct filing program, but has not created one. | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, I saw | Jul 21 23:18 |
| schestowitz | propublica covered it | Jul 21 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | So now the tax software people are dropping their free file and there soon won't be any way to do so without grabbing paper forms and mailing them in yourself, which the IRS says you shouldn't do. | Jul 21 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | They're so backlogged that people who filed more than a year ago still haven't seen their 2019 return come in. | Jul 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | IRS is not doing its job | Jul 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's only pretending to | Jul 21 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | the IRS has completely broken down. | Jul 21 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're not auditing the people who are telling major whoppers on their 1040. | Jul 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it goes after poor and vulnerable people | Jul 21 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | You call and nobody answers and it hangs up on you after 6 hours. | Jul 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to keep numbers up, ior intact | Jul 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the IRS is a symptom of your crumbling country | Jul 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | *not that we are doing all that great either | Jul 21 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, because to fight a tax audit you get an attorney and nobody will do that if the IRS says you owe us $50 because we corrected your return. | Jul 21 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | But it probably cost them $600 to figure that out. | Jul 21 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I had to grab an attorney to fight off more false accusations by the police with the traffic incident they didn't witness. | Jul 21 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Where the other guy is a child molester who jumped bail in Wisconsin and then was involved in a prison riot. | Jul 21 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | They don't want to be seen as not PC, so instead of just writing up the damned report and going away, they stick it to the white guy. | Jul 21 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | I see it as a "Here's the bill for making us come out here and take the accident report.". | Jul 21 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | If they have to come out, someone gets a ticket, and with all of the BLM horseshit, it's not going to be the black guy even if he is a chomo. | Jul 21 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even if he doesn't have a license. | Jul 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even if he can't prove he has insurance. | Jul 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Black Privilege | Jul 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | You get to bounce around with no ID and no insurance as a felon convict and because it's Illinois they won't do anything with you. | Jul 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't blame him for leaving Wisconsin. They still have actual law enforcement. Not police that come out and act as another revenue agency and not a hell of a lot else. | Jul 21 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I add some security to my garbage before I take it out. | Jul 21 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not only do I shred up my voided checks and statements and things before tossing them, but then I pour in my own special blend of cat waste and old coffee grounds from the other trash can. | Jul 21 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Then I take it out to the dumpster. | Jul 21 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | The thinking goes that they're going to have to do some very unpleasant work if they dumpster dive to try to steal my identity. | Jul 21 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | We had electric scammers out here again the other day pretending to be ComEd employees. | Jul 21 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting bad. These two looked like a couple of hipsters complete with man buns. | Jul 21 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I told Mandy that there were people out here trying to scam me with an energy bill thing and he goes "Are they black?" I said, "No, they were white, and they dressed better than me. This is getting very convincing.". | Jul 21 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "man buns"? | Jul 21 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the hairstyle. | Jul 21 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I used to know a guy in Fort Wayne, Indiana named Joe, and then when I got to Chicago, I used to shop at Jewel Osco over by the Roosevelt Orange Line sometimes. | Jul 21 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | One of the cashiers looked like Joe with a man bun so I just called him Man Bun Joe with John. | Jul 21 23:49 |
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