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| techrights-bot/fn | #microsoft head of PR is now BLOCKING, at least in #twitter , former Microsoft staff that speaks out and disrupts the lying, the propaganda, and the #fraud ... trying to make them less visible as they interfere with the passage of lies | Jun 25 00:00 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "Chinese researchers developed the Kylin operating system to replace the Western products the country relied on" and the programme of #China now runs on #GNU #Linux https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3138313/mars-moon-computer-system-behind-chinas-space-missions | Jun 25 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | From Mars to the moon: the computer system behind China’s space missions | South China Morning Post | Jun 25 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's why many later adopted win95 | Jun 25 00:03 |
| MinceR | because they didn't know better? | Jun 25 00:06 |
| schestowitz | maybe marketing | Jun 25 00:07 |
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| psydroid | windows 95 is the shoddiest software I've ever used | Jun 25 00:14 |
| psydroid | I did use 98 and later 2000 while learning about GNU/Linux | Jun 25 00:15 |
| schestowitz | I think it is still winnuke compatible | Jun 25 00:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 25 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft made such things acceptable and normal | Jun 25 00:17 |
| schestowitz | imagine me being able to shut down the PCs of all people in this channel | Jun 25 00:17 |
| schestowitz | by looking up their IP addresses | Jun 25 00:17 |
| schestowitz | I remember programs like antinuke | Jun 25 00:18 |
| schestowitz | various types of them | Jun 25 00:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe they should install those before deploying windows on oil pipelines and water treatment facilities | Jun 25 00:19 |
| MinceR | even then it's irresponsible to use microsoft products in such environments | Jun 25 00:19 |
| activelow | attaching critical infrastructure with TCP/IP is insane | Jun 25 00:19 |
| schestowitz | but there are kickbacks | Jun 25 00:19 |
| schestowitz | they take bribe money | Jun 25 00:20 |
| schestowitz | if not, they are missing out! | Jun 25 00:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | Jun 25 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights | Jun 25 00:20 | |
| activelow | predating the privatisation nonsense it was in the hands of telcos (t-systems maintaining x.25 at german railway) | Jun 25 00:20 |
| activelow | telco backbone was a *synchronous* circuit switched network | Jun 25 00:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152655 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ChromiumUngoogled in #PCLOS and #Mozilla Miscellany • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152656 | Jun 25 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromium Ungoogled in PCLOS and Mozilla Miscellany | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Videos: Garuda KDE Dragonized 210621 and "Learning Sed Is Beneficial For Linux Users" • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152658 | Jun 25 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Garuda KDE Dragonized 210621 and "Learning Sed Is Beneficial For Linux Users" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Xfce and #KDE Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce and KDE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152660 | Jun 25 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Kernel and #Graphics Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152661 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Graphics Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:26 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152662 | Jun 25 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:26 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Links 25/6/2021: China’s Space Programme Runs on GNU/Linux (Kylin), #Ubuntu 21.10 Wallpaper Competition • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/kylin-china/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/kylin-china/ | Jun 25 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/6/2021: China’s Space Programme Runs on GNU/Linux (Kylin), Ubuntu 21.10 Wallpaper Competition | Techrights | Jun 25 00:27 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "At the moment, #Microsoft is attacking #Linux . Of course it says that it “loves Linux”, but that’s just a deliberate smokescreen." http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ #Vista11 #antitrust #vapourware | Jun 25 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsoft’s Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights | Jun 25 00:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | That ought to say that EPO is corrupt and people claim that #SPTO in Spain does a much better work than today's #EPO https://blogip.garrigues.com/en/patents-trade-secrets/inventions-made-in-spain see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO | Jun 25 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogip.garrigues.com | Inventions ‘made in Spain’: How can you protect them properly? | Intellectual and Industrial Property Blog - Garrigues | Jun 25 00:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jun 25 00:36 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Fabricating #patents instead of chips https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/us-semiconductor-industry-confronts-a-two-front-war | Jun 25 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TCP connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/us-semiconductor-industry-confronts-a-two-front-war ) | Jun 25 00:39 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Intentionally conflating #patents with #propaganda terms like "IP"] https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sdvl8z5gzxwk/how-to-overcome-antimicrobial-resistance-ip-challenges #managingip = #corruptMedia | Jun 25 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | How to overcome antimicrobial resistance IP challenges | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 25 00:40 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #AMD SFH Linux Driver Updated For "Next Gen" Ryzen Laptops • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152663 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD SFH Linux Driver Updated For "Next Gen" Ryzen Laptops | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:40 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Labeling slaughtered animals based on their "nationality"... what lawyers and their mouthpieces would do. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sdf1hxkqyr8m/uk-australia-deal-may-create-template-for-future-gi-protection | Jun 25 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | UK-Australia deal may create template for future GI protection | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 25 00:50 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #SoftwarePatents as worthless garbage in US high courts such as #cafc http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/24/patent-case-yu-v-apple-inc-usa/ | Jun 25 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Yu v. Apple Inc., USA - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jun 25 00:51 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Patent mobsters trying to blame #PTAB upheld and fake #patents being thrown out on "politics" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sdlkmxc9h8q2/arthrex-could-make-39political-animal39-of-uspto-head-say-inhouse how about speaking to people other than your overzealous sponsors? | Jun 25 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Arthrex could make 'political animal' of USPTO head say in-house | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 25 00:52 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Appalling core words and buzzwords for #fakepatents that are just abstract nonsense https://japantoday.com/category/tech/japan-to-work-with-u.s.-others-to-improve-process-for-ai-patents "patents related to artificial intelligence" = #swpats | Jun 25 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-japantoday.com | Japan to work with U.S., others to improve process for AI patents - Japan Today | Jun 25 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "the #PTAB granted leave for the parties to file Preliminary Motions and on May 20th, ToolGen filed its Substantive Motion No. 1 for benefit of priority." Stop granting #patents on life and nature; stop trying to crush #patent oversight. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/meanwhile-toolgen-files-substantive-motion-no-1-in-interference-with-cvc.html | Jun 25 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Meanwhile . . . ToolGen Files Substantive Motion No. 1 in Interference with CVC | Jun 25 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "A first-instance court decision that second medical use patents granted before 13 December 2007 are not patentable is waiting to be evaluated..." https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=8ca0a291-7080-4083-94ee-87828a8f5a01 | Jun 25 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are second medical use patents protected? - Lexology | Jun 25 00:58 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #EPO exploiting disaster to promote even more #monopolies https://www.nlo.eu/en/news/trends-and-leading-countries-epo-2020-filings-healthcare-technology | Jun 25 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nlo.eu | Trends and Leading Countries of EPO 2020 Filings in Healthcare Technology | NLO | Jun 25 01:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: #Apple withdraws from #antitrust action against #FortressInvestment [sic] and multiple Fortress-funded companies--now Intel is the sole remaining plaintiff ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/apple-withdraws-from-antitrust-action.html ䷉ by @fosspatents | Jun 25 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple withdraws from antitrust action against Fortress Investment and multiple Fortress-funded companies--now Intel is the sole remaining plaintiff | Jun 25 01:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Some people apparently get their computer back from Lenovo in days, some people haven't seen it for months. | Jun 25 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Not much of a warranty. | Jun 25 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should just go down to the Micro Center in Chicago and drop it off. At least if I haven't heard from them I can go demand it back after a month. :P | Jun 25 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, This Zoom Traffic Court is addictive. | Jun 25 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's the best show on TV. | Jun 25 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's so ghetto that this is better than any judge show on TV. | Jun 25 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | They don't let people accidentally get naked in court and tell the judge he's full of shit. | Jun 25 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | There was a naked guy in his bedroom that forgot to turn his Zoom off. | Jun 25 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | Some other woman who was there for speeding and no insurance snapshotted it and then when the judge called her case and asked to see that she got insurance, she turned screen share on and accidentally shared the snapshot of the naked man. | Jun 25 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Then the judge asked if it was the naked guy from a few hours ago and she said yeah, even though it warns you that recording the court session is contempt of court. | Jun 25 02:22 |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240621.txt Read the log now... | Jun 25 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 24, 2021 | Jun 25 02:37 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 24, 2021 | Jun 25 02:40 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | Jun 25 03:06 |
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| DaemonFC | https://winaero.com/how-to-install-windows-11-without-tpm-2-0/ | Jun 25 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winaero.com | How to install Windows 11 without TPM 2.0 | Jun 25 05:56 | |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 25 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors | Jun 25 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Windows Processor Requirements Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors | Microsoft Docs | Jun 25 05:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Nothing older than 8th gen Core processors will run Windows 11. | Jun 25 05:59 |
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| psydroid | I think it's great, as there will be a lot of cheap used hardware to install something else on. I wonder how long it will take for them to proclaim that there are 1 billion devices running Windows 11. | Jun 25 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | With Windows 10, that was a lot easier. | Jun 25 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | You could install it on any piece of junk that came with at least Vista or so. | Jun 25 06:03 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I doubt there will be a rush to get 11 then | Jun 25 06:03 |
| psydroid | people will get it with new hardware as usual | Jun 25 06:04 |
| psydroid | but it means that they are effectively abandoning all their old customers' systems over the next few years and building a new hardware base | Jun 25 06:06 |
| psydroid | it would be fun to see it blow up in their faces | Jun 25 06:06 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | maybe they will go 64bit only, no multilib | Jun 25 06:06 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | sure will be fun to watch the back lash of all those people downloading it just to find out their system isn't compatible for one bullshit reason or another | Jun 25 06:07 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | maybe it'll be like their Vista rollout | Jun 25 06:07 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | or the XP rollout | Jun 25 06:07 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | or Windows ME | Jun 25 06:07 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Or 98/95 | Jun 25 06:07 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | or virtually all of their rollouts with the only possible exception being 7 | Jun 25 06:08 |
| schestowitz | lots of vista11 spam in my feeds | Jun 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz | as expected | Jun 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz | vapourware spam | Jun 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz | even in some 'linux' sites | Jun 25 06:19 |
| schestowitz | it just goes like | Jun 25 06:21 |
| schestowitz | Windows will [one day] do [something GNU/Linux has already done for YEARS] | Jun 25 06:21 |
| schestowitz | and some people play along with that spammy vapourware | Jun 25 06:21 |
| KindOne/fn | Linux, not GNU/Linux. | Jun 25 06:22 |
| schestowitz | they don't focus on kernel features | Jun 25 06:22 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I surgically removed the spamy marketing from my rss feeds | Jun 25 06:23 |
| schestowitz | now I focus focus on and see actual news | Jun 25 06:23 |
| activelow | the processor requirements are insane, they probably enabled some nonsense compiler optimizations for some shiny bright bullshit benchmarks | Jun 25 06:24 |
| activelow | briefly reviewed 64bit and what the common baseline was to support a wide variety: Pentium4/Nocona, and any later x86_x64 caused some discrepancy between intel and amd with compiler optimizations with no benefit | Jun 25 06:25 |
| psydroid | they are pretty much ensuring that their competitors will gain market share | Jun 25 06:25 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Good | Jun 25 06:26 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | The market could stand some competition | Jun 25 06:27 |
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| activelow | if it was competition then windows went technically bancrupt 20 years ago already | Jun 25 06:33 |
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| activelow | digged inside techrights archive, the open document format battle was a scam too. TeX was the competition, not at least talked about. | Jun 25 06:35 |
| schestowitz | different kind | Jun 25 06:36 |
| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 25 06:41 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Jun 25 06:41 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by superkuh!~superkuh@user/superkuh at Thu May 20 20:25:48 2021 | Jun 25 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | our policy :-) (I think): | Jun 25 06:45 |
| schestowitz | focus on the issues | Jun 25 06:45 |
| schestowitz | comment on distracting spam only for amusement and if really necessary | Jun 25 06:45 |
| schestowitz | hence, better not mention vista 11 at all if possible | Jun 25 06:46 |
| schestowitz | not even in Daily Links | Jun 25 06:46 |
| schestowitz | we know what it's meant to distract from | Jun 25 06:46 |
| schestowitz | (several things) | Jun 25 06:46 |
| schestowitz | today we'll focus on patents mostly | Jun 25 06:46 |
| activelow | worth remembering, the creator of TeX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth#Opinion_on_software_patents | Jun 25 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Donald Knuth - Wikipedia | Jun 25 06:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210625-01.en.html | Jun 25 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | 20 Years FSFE: Interview with Torsten Grote - FSFE | Jun 25 06:48 | |
| schestowitz | 'FSF' 'E' | Jun 25 06:48 |
| schestowitz | Google Deutschland | Jun 25 06:49 |
| schestowitz | activelow: he's still giving talk | Jun 25 06:49 |
| schestowitz | which is amazing, as a student I followed him and he was already quite old | Jun 25 06:49 |
| activelow | schestowitz: worked all night to finalize gentoo tree for aarch64, departing for some sleep now, i'll catch up with the backlog in a few hours, have a nice day | Jun 25 06:50 |
| activelow | :) | Jun 25 06:50 |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Jun 25 06:54 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 25 06:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.ft.com/content/a0f8d8c5-ee5c-4618-bfbd-6bfb383b803e | Jun 25 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times | Jun 25 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | paywalled | Jun 25 07:04 |
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| schestowitz | mentioned FSF maybe | Jun 25 07:04 |
| schestowitz | wow, freenode now has under 20k users | Jun 25 07:10 |
| schestowitz | I accessed capelle | Jun 25 07:10 |
| schestowitz | and motd said 19k+ users online | Jun 25 07:10 |
| schestowitz | but it's good that we have channels there, in case some technical issues like downtime | Jun 25 07:10 |
| schestowitz | it's a backup plan, a temporary one | Jun 25 07:10 |
| schestowitz | freenode as in free/gratis, sort of.. | Jun 25 07:11 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | all i know is that i have no intention of joining libera or whatever the name is | Jun 25 07:14 |
| schestowitz | I understand, and can moreover relate.. | Jun 25 07:14 |
| schestowitz | I think we have a setup that works well now | Jun 25 07:14 |
| schestowitz | on average, our daily discussions over IRC got a lot longer | Jun 25 07:15 |
| schestowitz | blog comments are only open to people who have had a wordpress account in the site for many years | Jun 25 07:15 |
| schestowitz | in "libera" there are many people hostile towards us, as we know we do not control the channel there and take advantage of that | Jun 25 07:16 |
| schestowitz | it's going to be interesting to see what freenode develops into by year's end | Jun 25 07:16 |
| schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 25 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jun 25 07:16 | |
| schestowitz | "An open messaging platform" but proprietary https://irc.com/ | Jun 25 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com | Jun 25 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Use your favourite IRC client or your existing bots. We contribute back to key IRC projects to help push them forward to how todays users expect an IM platform." | Jun 25 07:17 |
| schestowitz | I doubt this will catch on because | Jun 25 07:17 |
| schestowitz | 1. IRC doesn't offer the same level of security of Signal with e2ee | Jun 25 07:18 |
| schestowitz | 2. it's not widely recognised | Jun 25 07:18 |
| schestowitz | 3. its owner doesn't inspire confidence | Jun 25 07:18 |
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| schestowitz | there might be double-posting: | Jun 25 07:49 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, June 24, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 25 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 25 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 25 07:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 25 07:50 | |
| techrights-news | #JingOS , Linux-Based Operating System For Tablet And Smartphone! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315#comment-30055 | Jun 25 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:51 | |
| techrights-news | #RockyLinux Is Ready For Prime Time! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152518#comment-30056 | Jun 25 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 Released For RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:51 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152664 | Jun 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:52 | |
| techrights-news | #Sway 1.6.1 Wayland Compositor Released With WLROOTS 0.14 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152665 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sway 1.6.1 Wayland Compositor Released With WLROOTS 0.14 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:52 | |
| techrights-news | Excellent Utilities: #duf – disk usage utility • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152666 #gnu #linux | Jun 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Excellent Utilities: duf – disk usage utility | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:52 | |
| techrights-news | Meet the activists perfecting the craft of anti-surveillance https://www.ft.com/content/a0f8d8c5-ee5c-4618-bfbd-6bfb383b803e paywall | Jun 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times | Jun 25 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | the overnight cron jobs will tell if auto-recovery and log/bulletin-related stuff also works | Jun 25 07:53 |
| schestowitz | there are usually some unforeseen bugs creeping in | Jun 25 07:53 |
| schestowitz | Now shows up as "TR-NEWS" in http://techrights.org/irc/ it's an alias | Jun 25 07:54 |
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| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152668 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 08:52 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▆▄▅▆▆▇▅▇▄▅▇▅▃▅▄▄▄▇▆▅▅▁▅▃▅▃▅▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 26.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▃▁▃▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 13.26▕ swarm size (avg): 304.41 ⟲ | Jun 25 09:00 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Klara #BSD ☞ #FreeBSD Performance Observability https://klarasystems.com/articles/freebsd-performance-observability/ | Jun 25 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | FreeBSD Performance Observability | Klara Inc. | Jun 25 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Hacakaday ☞ #RockyLinux Is Ready For Prime Time! https://hackaday.com/2021/06/24/rocky-linux-is-ready-for-prime-time/ #gnu #linux | Jun 25 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rocky Linux Is Ready For Prime Time! | Hackaday | Jun 25 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Ransom notes https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22545675/ransomware-cryptocurrency-regulation-hacks | Jun 25 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ransomware funds more ransomware — how do we stop it? - The Verge | Jun 25 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Instagram Tests Letting Users Post to Feeds from Desktop https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-24/instagram-tests-letting-users-post-to-feeds-from-desktop | Jun 25 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 25 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes ☞ Socialcontrolmedia companies to shut fake accounts within 24 hours of complaint https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/social-media-companies-to-shut-fake-accounts-within-24-hours-of-complaint/83805374 | Jun 25 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | new IT rules: Social media companies to shut fake accounts within 24 hours of complaint, IT News, ET CIO | Jun 25 09:24 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #AhramOnline #Censorship ☞ Court imprisons Egyptian TikTokers Haneen Hossam, Mawada Eladham for 10, 6 years in prison https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/414668/Egypt/Politics-/Court-imprisons-Egyptian-TikTokers-Haneen-Hossam,-.aspx | Jun 25 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.ahram.org.eg | Court imprisons Egyptian TikTokers Haneen Hossam, Mawada Eladham for 10, 6 years in prison - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online | Jun 25 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 24, 2021 • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/irc-log-240621/ | Jun 25 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 24, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 25 09:39 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #BroadbandBreakfast #Internet ☞ Bipartisan Infrastructure Deal Lands on $65 Billion for #Broadband https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/bipartisan-infrastructure-deal-lands-on-65-billion-for-broadband/ | Jun 25 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Bipartisan Infrastructure Deal Lands on $65 Billion for Broadband : Broadband Breakfast | Jun 25 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Reuters #Internet ☞ Democrats' two-step infrastructure plan draws Republican ire https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-meet-with-bipartisan-senators-discuss-infrastructure-plan-2021-06-24/ | Jun 25 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Democrats' two-step infrastructure plan draws Republican ire | Reuters | Jun 25 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #DRM ☞ #Amazon is acquiring a podcast hosting and monetization platform https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22549391/amazon-music-art19-hosting-platform-advertisers | Jun 25 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon is acquiring a podcast hosting and monetization platform - The Verge | Jun 25 09:59 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Marketplace #Monopolies ☞ Is Congress about to regulate Big Tech? https://www.marketplace.org/2021/06/24/is-congress-about-to-regulate-big-tech/ go after #microsoft too: http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ | Jun 25 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketplace.org | Is Congress about to regulate Big Tech? - Marketplace | Jun 25 10:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsoft’s Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights | Jun 25 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #Surveillance ☞ [VISUAL] The Overlapping Infrastructure of Urban Surveillance, and How to Fix It https://www.eff.org/slsgraphic | Jun 25 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | [VISUAL] The Overlapping Infrastructure of Urban Surveillance, and How to Fix It | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 25 10:05 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #Surveillance ☞ Now Is The Time: Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of #FaceRecognition https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/now-time-tell-congress-ban-federal-use-face-recognition | Jun 25 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Now Is The Time: Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 25 10:06 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux # ☞ ‘Epigone drone’ pays homage to NASA’s Mars Helicopter | The MagPi #107 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/epigone-drone-pays-homage-to-nasas-mars-helicopter-the-magpi-107/ | Jun 25 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | 'Epigone drone' pays homage to NASA's Mars Helicopter | The MagPi #107 - Raspberry Pi | Jun 25 10:06 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: "The #broadband infrastructure money must be kept out of the hands of the ISPs for it to have /any/ effect at all." | Jun 25 10:09 |
| Ariadne | iophk is right | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | there’s also prior art to demonstrate it | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | in the 1990s the baby bella promised fiber to every home in the US | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | bells* | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | if we would give them a few billion | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | so we did | Jun 25 10:15 |
| Ariadne | and they implemented crappy dsl instead | Jun 25 10:15 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ProPublica #Florida ☞ To Get a Shot at Justice, They Were Forced to Prove Their Disabled Daughter’s Intelligence https://www.propublica.org/article/to-get-a-shot-at-justice-they-were-forced-to-prove-their-disabled-daughters-intelligence | Jun 25 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | To Get a Shot at Justice, They Were Forced to Prove Their Disabled Daughter’s Intelligence — ProPublica | Jun 25 10:57 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #Finance ☞ Capital, Profits and Wages in 2021 https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/24/capital-profits-and-wages-in-2021/ | Jun 25 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Capital, Profits and Wages in 2021 - CounterPunch.org | Jun 25 10:59 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #MichaelGeist #internet #canada ☞ “This Bill Reminds Me of the Maginot Line”: The Bill C-10 Debate Arrives at the Senate https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/06/this-bill-reminds-me-of-the-maginot-line-the-bill-c-10-debate-arrives-at-the-senate/ | Jun 25 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | "This Bill Reminds Me of the Maginot Line": The Bill C-10 Debate Arrives at the Senate - Michael Geist | Jun 25 11:00 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Censorship ☞ #ContentModeration Case Study: Instagram Takes Down Instagram Account Of Book About #Instagram (2020) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210624/09521347054/content-moderation-case-study-instagram-takes-down-instagram-account-book-about-instagram-2020.shtml | Jun 25 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Instagram Takes Down Instagram Account Of Book About Instagram (2020) | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:02 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #freespeech #socialcontrolmedia #scotus ☞ Fuck This Cheer In Particular Says The Supreme Court In Decision Upholding Students' Free Speech Rights https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210623/18225347048/fuck-this-cheer-particular-says-supreme-court-decision-upholding-students-free-speech-rights.shtml | Jun 25 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fuck This Cheer In Particular Says The Supreme Court In Decision Upholding Students' Free Speech Rights | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | [10:15] <Ariadne> in the 1990s the baby bella promised fiber to every home in the US | Jun 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | "every home" sounds overambitious | Jun 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | we're near centre and town and do not have fibre in 2021 | Jun 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | also next to the stadium of a top football club, which you might expect to have superfast connections | Jun 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | but this copper line does give us about 10Mbit/sec downstream and 700KBit/sec up | Jun 25 11:05 |
| schestowitz | (max) | Jun 25 11:06 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #socialcontrolmedia ☞ Appeals Court Tosses Cop's Attempt To Hold #Twitter Responsible For Him Being Shot By A Gunman https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210619/14054047022/appeals-court-tosses-cops-attempt-to-hold-twitter-responsible-him-being-shot-gunman.shtml | Jun 25 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Tosses Cop's Attempt To Hold Twitter Responsible For Him Being Shot By A Gunman | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #google ☞ #YouTube Asks Court to Dismiss Mexican Movie Tycoon's 'Untimely' Piracy Lawsuit https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-asks-court-to-dismiss-mexican-movie-tycoons-untimely-piracy-lawsuit-210624/ | Jun 25 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Asks Court to Dismiss Mexican Movie Tycoon's 'Untimely' Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak | Jun 25 11:08 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #tpb ☞ The Pirate Bay's Crypto 'Pirate Token' Slowly Fades Away https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bays-crypto-pirate-token-slowly-fades-away-210624/ | Jun 25 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Pirate Bay's Crypto 'Pirate Token' Slowly Fades Away * TorrentFreak | Jun 25 11:08 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: "The Verge" on ransomware avoids the obvious: eliminate Microsoft products (see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA and http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ ) | Jun 25 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jun 25 11:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Jun 25 11:09 | |
| techrights-news | #freenode now has less than 20k users. Fewer than I imagined, but mostly the fault bad, awful, tactless, insane decisions by Freenode itself. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 25 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jun 25 11:11 | |
| techrights-news | #DRM mentioned at about 05:50 https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/native-linux-gaming-doesn't-matter:c #games #gnu #linux | Jun 25 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Native Linux Gaming Doesn't Matter Anymore | Jun 25 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | [11:27] <Techrights-sec> https://newnetworks.com/bookofbrokenpromises.htm | Jun 25 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newnetworks.com | The Book of Broken Promises: $400 Billion Broadband Scandal & Free the Net | Jun 25 11:28 | |
| schestowitz | [11:27] <Techrights-sec> $400 billion USD and counting ... | Jun 25 11:28 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Reason Shows How To Properly Respond To A Questionable #SocialConolMedia Takedown: By Calling It Out https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210618/11453847016/reason-shows-how-to-properly-respond-to-questionable-social-media-takedown-calling-it-out.shtml | Jun 25 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reason Shows How To Properly Respond To A Questionable Social Media Takedown: By Calling It Out | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:34 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Broadband ☞ New NTIA Broadband Map Exposes Expensive, Patchy US Broadband https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210622/08075247037/new-ntia-broadband-map-exposes-expensive-patchy-us-broadband.shtml | Jun 25 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New NTIA Broadband Map Exposes Expensive, Patchy US Broadband | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:36 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #iran #usdoj #imperialism ☞ #DOJ Seizes Iranian News Org Websites; Raising Many Questions https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210622/19052047041/doj-seizes-iranian-news-org-websites-raising-many-questions.shtml | Jun 25 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOJ Seizes Iranian News Org Websites; Raising Many Questions | Techdirt | Jun 25 11:37 | |
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| techrights-news | Doing tons of work on the #techrights #gemini capsule today and some behind-the-scenes automation. Lots done do far today! I'm so pleased. | Jun 25 12:02 |
| techrights-news | To see #techrights gemini stats go to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi and for latest IRC logs visit gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi #geminiProtocol #geminiSpace #internet | Jun 25 12:03 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Setup Internet in CentOS, RHEL, Rocky Linux Minimal Install • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152669 | Jun 25 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Setup Internet in CentOS, RHEL, Rocky Linux Minimal Install | Tux Machines | Jun 25 12:04 | |
| techrights-news | #curl and #wget ought to add #geminiProtocol support. Better earlier than later... #internet #freesw | Jun 25 12:05 |
| Ariadne | [05:04] <schestowitz> "every home" sounds overambitious | Jun 25 12:23 |
| Ariadne | i am just saying what was promised :) | Jun 25 12:24 |
| Ariadne | and our | Jun 25 12:24 |
| Ariadne | congress went along with it 100% | Jun 25 12:24 |
| Ariadne | here have 400 billion | Jun 25 12:24 |
| schestowitz | I need adding with tabs, does anyone know how to straighten columns when the difference in contents varies more than one tab's length? Example http://techrights.org/irc/ | Jun 25 12:48 |
| schestowitz | without having to parse each line and count chars | Jun 25 12:49 |
| schestowitz | my guess is that it is not possible and tabs can only compensate for <=5 chars diff, by default.. | Jun 25 12:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR might know... I think he's good at these ascii things | Jun 25 12:54 |
| schestowitz | if only there was a long/double tab, but nope https://theasciicode.com.ar/ascii-control-characters/horizontal-tab-ascii-code-9.html | Jun 25 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theasciicode.com.ar | ASCII code Horizontal Tab, American Standard Code for Information Interchange, The complete ASCII table, characters,letters, vowels with accents, consonants, signs, symbols, numbers horizontal, tab,ascii,9, ascii art, ascii table, code ascii, ascii character, ascii text, ascii chart, ascii characters, ascii codes, characters, codes, tables, symbols, list, alt, keys, keyboard, spelling, control, printab ... | Jun 25 12:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▃▄▄▅▆▆▄▅▅▄▅▅▅▄▃▅▄▄▂▅▇▆▅▃▁▄▇▆▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 31.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▂█▁▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.40▕ swarm size (avg): 304.58 ⟲ | Jun 25 13:00 |
| schestowitz | ASCII tab turns out to mean something else completely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_tab | Jun 25 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ASCII tab - Wikipedia | Jun 25 13:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_key#Tab-separated_values | Jun 25 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tab stop - Wikipedia | Jun 25 13:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tab key - Wikipedia | Jun 25 13:01 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Twitch ☞ Streamer Raptors Continue To Test Twitch's Appropriate Content Guideline Fencing https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210623/10513947045/streamer-raptors-continue-to-test-twitchs-appropriate-content-guideline-fencing.shtml | Jun 25 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Streamer Raptors Continue To Test Twitch's Appropriate Content Guideline Fencing | Techdirt | Jun 25 13:08 | |
| schestowitz | doesn't look like sed can shorten/abbreviate n^th element | Jun 25 13:10 |
| schestowitz | tab length not even consistent across browsers :-o geckon and chrome-based not the same | Jun 25 13:14 |
| schestowitz | *gecko | Jun 25 13:14 |
| techrights-news | Ethics and hoarding https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/is-it-possible-to-become-very-wealthy-in-an-ethical-way-4175696803/#15 | Jun 25 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Is it possible to become very wealthy in an ethical way? | Jun 25 13:16 | |
| techrights-news | #olympics are biased towards empires and superpowers (like old Greece). I mean, take relays for example; biased towards big countries as small countries cannot produce enough people of the same high standards. So medals hoarded by massive nations. | Jun 25 13:23 |
| techrights-news | #olympics / #ioc also rewards with medals the lesser good, if they're in medleys/relays of large countries. You can pick a good medal for the accomplishment of colleagues. | Jun 25 13:34 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: freenode shows me 26750 as the number of users. That includes "invisible". | Jun 25 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | 43344 on Libera, from which 43283 are "invisible" (almost everyone). | Jun 25 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | 24966 on IRCnet | Jun 25 14:47 |
| spazz | >There are 20947 users and 5799 invisible on 21 servers | Jun 25 14:48 |
| spazz | >Current global users: 26746 Max: 27825 | Jun 25 14:48 |
| spazz | which one is correct | Jun 25 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | spazz: I don't know what invisible means, but considering how on Libera there are 61 users without them, they should be actual users. | Jun 25 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | "max" is a historical maximum | Jun 25 14:51 |
| spazz | i mean 20947 vs 26746 | Jun 25 14:54 |
| spazz | oh nvm | Jun 25 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | spazz: That's what I mean: the latter. | Jun 25 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | freenode's user count is freakishly stable while Libera continues to steadily grow. | Jun 25 14:55 |
| spazz | invisible means users with +i no? | Jun 25 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's by default on Libera? | Jun 25 14:58 |
| spazz | yes | Jun 25 14:59 |
| spazz | used to be default on freenode too | Jun 25 14:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▅▇▅▃▅▇▆▃▄▅▇▅█▂▅▅▃█▅▄▅▅▅▅▅▆▂▂▅▄▇▁ avg(k/sec) 30.30 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.15▕ swarm size (avg): 304.61 ⟲ | Jun 25 15:00 |
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| spazz | just noticed on freenode i have to manually send /names every time i want an updated list of users on a channel | Jun 25 15:04 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: invisible just means not visible in global /who output btw | Jun 25 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Yea, I read the man now | Jun 25 15:05 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: i would say 90% of freenode's user count at this point is just abandoned crap | Jun 25 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | I want to set some user modes on the bridge now :) | Jun 25 15:05 |
| Ariadne | bots, bouncers, clients running in screen which haven't been attached for months or years | Jun 25 15:06 |
| Ariadne | some of those bots/bouncers/clients probably even belong to dead people | Jun 25 15:06 |
| spazz | i thought it's just some bug in my client but other clients are also affected | Jun 25 15:06 |
| Ariadne | what client are you using | Jun 25 15:07 |
| spazz | weechat | Jun 25 15:07 |
| Ariadne | what version | Jun 25 15:08 |
| Ariadne | some old ones have issues with inspircd | Jun 25 15:08 |
| spazz | what about hexchat | Jun 25 15:08 |
| Ariadne | same deal, old versions don't like inspircd | Jun 25 15:08 |
| spazz | i use v3.1 | Jun 25 15:09 |
| gustaf | weechat 2.8 here | Jun 25 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What user modes does ergo have? | Jun 25 15:10 |
| Ariadne | anyway, leenode is running some contrib module crap which is supposed to "hide" netsplits | Jun 25 15:11 |
| Ariadne | so my guess is that its fucking with your clients | Jun 25 15:11 |
| Ariadne | :p | Jun 25 15:11 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: same as charybdis basically | Jun 25 15:12 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: How to hide netsplits? | Jun 25 15:13 |
| Ariadne | it just suppresses sending the quits and joins when a netsplit happens | Jun 25 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | Just not show who parted due to them with a timeout? | Jun 25 15:13 |
| Ariadne | and then the ghost clients "ping out" after a while | Jun 25 15:14 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it makes things more pretty, but then some people who'd be shown as present will not receive some messages. | Jun 25 15:14 |
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| Ariadne | glibc and gcc are planning to no longer require copyright assignment starting in august: https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-June/127581.html | Jun 25 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceware.org | Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. | Jun 25 15:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I retained my attorney. He went ahead and filed a demand for trial with the state. | Jun 25 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | So no arraignment court in August. | Jun 25 15:15 |
| XRevan86 | When I see a person as present and that they're not disconnecting/reconnecting, I assume that they'll get my message eventually. | Jun 25 15:16 |
| XRevan86 | but they may not and even not know that something happened? | Jun 25 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was talking to my attorney and I said, "Every time I deal with the police I feel like I'm walking around with a live grenade in my back pocket just waiting for it to go off. There's always something that they don't tell you.". | Jun 25 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | He said, "That's probably a good way to think of them.". | Jun 25 15:17 |
| Librarian | There's a parallel universe in which immibis encounters people he disagrees with, and he reacts to the disagreement by intelligently showing the evidence upon which his opinions are based. Alas, we do not inhabit that universe. We're stuck in this one, with the immibis whose very best contribution to any conversation is to scream "UR A RETARD LOL" with spittle flying from his mouth. | Jun 25 15:17 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Is there some kind of message synchronisation logic present after the rejoin? | Jun 25 15:18 |
| Ariadne | fuck if i know :D | Jun 25 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd-contrib/blob/master/3.0/m_zombie.cpp that's the module, right? | Jun 25 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-inspircd-contrib/m_zombie.cpp at master · inspircd/inspircd-contrib · GitHub | Jun 25 15:19 | |
| Ariadne | i guess so yeah | Jun 25 15:20 |
| Ariadne | this is an AMAZING GPL take: https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236219.html | Jun 25 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Update to GCC copyright assignment policy | Jun 25 15:21 | |
| Ariadne | if you use GPL code you do not have to care about copyright | Jun 25 15:21 |
| Ariadne | hahahahaha wow | Jun 25 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | Doesn't look like it tries to do anything with messages. | Jun 25 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | But it's possible that "zombification" is something InspIRCd itself can handle to work these things out. | Jun 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | gpl is a (c)/CL licence | Jun 25 15:30 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #patents ☞ US Lawmakers Demand #EU 'Do the Right Thing or Get Out of the Way' on Covid-19 Vaccine #Patent Waivers https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/24/us-lawmakers-demand-eu-do-right-thing-or-get-out-way-covid-19-vaccine-patent-waivers | Jun 25 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | US Lawmakers Demand EU 'Do the Right Thing or Get Out of the Way' on Covid-19 Vaccine Patent Waivers | Common Dreams News | Jun 25 15:34 | |
| phobos/fn | US law makers can go to hell | Jun 25 15:37 |
| phobos/fn | same people that refused to hear any evidence about voter fraud and are now acting surprised at the results of certain audits | Jun 25 15:37 |
| Ariadne | why would the people who 'won' the election want to hear about voter fraud lol | Jun 25 15:41 |
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| psymin | the same reason that scientists want their findings reviewed | Jun 25 15:42 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Tor #torproject ☞ Improving the user experience of connecting to Tor in #TorBrowser 10.5 https://blog.torproject.org/improving-ux-connecting-to-tor-105 | Jun 25 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Improving the user experience of connecting to Tor in Tor Browser 10.5 | Tor Blog | Jun 25 15:49 | |
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| techrights-news | "Little Red Dog Games developer of Precipice, Deep Sixed and Rogue State Revolution spoke in an interview with #Linux hardware vendor #System76 about developing games on and for Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/little-red-dog-games-say-theres-qno-reason-not-toq-do-linux-versions-of-games | Jun 25 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Little Red Dog Games say there's "no reason not to" do Linux versions of games | GamingOnLinux | Jun 25 15:54 | |
| techrights-news | "it will also be supporting #Linux unlike the original." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/kathy-rain-directors-cut-will-have-50-off-if-you-own-the-original-plus-new-trailer | Jun 25 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kathy Rain: Director's Cut will have 50% off if you own the original plus new trailer | GamingOnLinux | Jun 25 15:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I pulled up Beavis and Butthead in the court computer. | Jun 25 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | They don't show up when THEY have court. | Jun 25 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | I sort of doubt there's a serious problem for me here. | Jun 25 15:59 |
| techrights-news | The #Mozilla Blog: Take control over your data with Rally, a novel #privacy -first data sharing platform https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/take-control-over-your-data-with-rally-a-novel-privacy-first-data-sharing-platform/ all this posing by Mozilla overlooks the fact #firefox needs WORK to make privacy-respecting | Jun 25 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Take control over your data with Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform | Jun 25 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | "This week we’ve been playing Subnautica Below Zero, going to the pub and teaching celebrities how to D&D. We have a retrospective on our FOSS Talk Live one-button challenge." https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/06/25/s14e16-planet-hiding-forces/ | Jun 25 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E16 – Planet Hiding Forces | Ubuntu Podcast | Jun 25 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152671 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:04 | |
| techrights-news | #Games : Epic Games, Ultimate ADOM - Caverns of Chaos, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152670 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Epic Games, Ultimate ADOM - Caverns of Chaos, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:04 | |
| techrights-news | #gnu #linux should be wiser... or wise enough NOT to give a platform or mention to #microsoft #vapourware (a smokescreen) | Jun 25 16:07 |
| psymin | techrights-news, can you elaborate on that? | Jun 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz | vista 11 spam | Jun 25 16:13 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152672 | Jun 25 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:15 | |
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| techrights-news | #MyGNUHealth 1.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152647#comment-30057 | Jun 25 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to MyGNUHealth, the Libre Personal Health Record | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:20 | |
| techrights-news | The MonKlock tells time using the Cistercian numeral system | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/25/the-monklock-tells-time-using-the-cistercian-numeral-system/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The MonKlock tells time using the Cistercian numeral system | Arduino Blog | Jun 25 16:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 25 16:22 | |
| XRevan86 | blabber.im as an XMPP server is discontinued. | Jun 25 16:23 |
| techrights-news | Annual Report 2020: Attracting new contributors to #LibreOffice https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/25/annual-report-2020-attracting-new-contributors-to-libreoffice/ #documentfoundation | Jun 25 16:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Annual Report 2020: Attracting new contributors to LibreOffice - The Document Foundation Blog | Jun 25 16:23 | |
| techrights-news | #Copr repo with the latest #GNOME Software | Brno hat ⚓ https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2021/06/25/copr-repo-with-the-latest-gnome-software/ ䷉ #jirieischmann | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com | Copr repo with the latest GNOME Software | Brno hat | Jun 25 16:29 | |
| techrights-news | Josef Strzibny: #InvoicePrinter 2.2 with breakdowns of items https://nts.strzibny.name/invoiceprinter-2.2/ | Jun 25 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | InvoicePrinter 2.2 with breakdowns of items | Jun 25 16:32 | |
| techrights-news | How the #Apache Software Foundation selects open source projects • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152673 | Jun 25 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How the Apache Software Foundation selects open source projects | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:36 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152674 #GNU #Linux | Jun 25 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:36 | |
| techrights-news | #AMDVLK 2021.Q2.6 #Vulkan Driver Released - Removes Pre-Polaris / Pre-Raven Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDVLK-2021.Q2.6 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDVLK 2021.Q2.6 Vulkan Driver Released - Removes Pre-Polaris / Pre-Raven Support - Phoronix | Jun 25 16:38 | |
| techrights-news | Top 14 Free Open-source self-hosted alternatives for #GooglePhotos • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152675 #freesw | Jun 25 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 14 Free Open-source self-hosted alternatives for Google Photos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:43 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jun 25 16:43 | |
| techrights-news | #SUSE Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152676 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:46 | |
| wrycode | Librarian: why are you still crying bro? | Jun 25 16:47 |
| techrights-news | " #Pimoroni Pico Wireless Pack is an add-on board for Raspberry Pi Pico adding a MicroSD card socket and ESP32 WiFi & Bluetooth module to the popular MCU board." Pico Wireless add-on board adds WiFi, Bluetooth and a Micro SD to Raspberry Pi Pico through an ESP32 wireless module. We just ask "but why?" | Jun 25 16:49 |
| techrights-news | " #Pimoroni Pico Wireless Pack is an add-on board for Raspberry Pi Pico adding a MicroSD card socket and ESP32 WiFi & Bluetooth module to the popular MCU board." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/25/pico-wireless-is-an-esp32-add-on-board-for-raspberry-pi-pico/ | Jun 25 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Pico Wireless Pack adds ESP32 WiFi & Bluetooth module to Raspberry Pi Pico - CNX Software | Jun 25 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | The gentle Breeze could use a fiery companion: making a case for a second theme in #KDE Plasma • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152677 #gnu #linux | Jun 25 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The gentle Breeze could use a fiery companion: making a case for a second theme in KDE Plasma | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | #Devices : #Pimoroni Pico, Arduino, Raspberry Pi, LoRaWAN • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152678 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Pimoroni Pico, Arduino, Raspberry Pi, LoRaWAN | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:53 | |
| techrights-news | "In the last post, I mentioned that I will be working on Implementing active resource management in GNOME." https://nishalkulkarni.tumblr.com/post/654958606891040768 | Jun 25 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nishalkulkarni.tumblr.com | Nishal's Blog — GSoC 2021 · Part II - Tracking windows and... | Jun 25 16:55 | |
| techrights-news | Canonical: #Ceph for Enterprise, a shared mission. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ceph-for-enterprise-a-shared-mission #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 25 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ceph for Enterprise, a shared mission. | Ubuntu | Jun 25 17:00 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▂▃▅▅▆▇▆▃▄▅▅▆▆▅▄▇▃▄▅▇▅▂▅██▄▅▆▄▅▇▇▁ avg(k/sec) 29.16 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▃▄▂▂█▃▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 18.33▕ swarm size (avg): 304.64 ⟲ | Jun 25 17:00 |
| techrights-news | I’m now using a binary #kernel with #Gentoo • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152679 | Jun 25 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I’m now using a binary kernel with Gentoo | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:00 | |
| activelow | ^ mainline kernel lacks some specific hardening features and isn't deblobbed either | Jun 25 17:06 |
| activelow | non source-based distributions which do not provide the tooling for full system integration from source (pkgsrc, portage) aren't entirely free and open either | Jun 25 17:11 |
| activelow | compiler options available are gigantic vendor lock-in to gcc (and llvm/clang) | Jun 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/0-1.5332538 could be the reason for the blabber.im's shutdown. | Jun 25 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Jun 25 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | Links 25/6/2021: Sway 1.6.1 Wayland Compositor and InvoicePrinter 2.2 • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/sway-1-6-1-wayland-compositor/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/25/sway-1-6-1-wayland-compositor/ | Jun 25 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/6/2021: Sway 1.6.1 Wayland Compositor and InvoicePrinter 2.2 | Techrights | Jun 25 17:19 | |
| techrights-news | #FreeSoftware : Mozilla Rally, Tor, LibreOffice and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152680 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: Mozilla Rally, Tor, LibreOffice and More | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:20 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152681 | Jun 25 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:21 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: the letters which threatened me with incarceration originated in Munich | Jun 25 17:21 |
| activelow | german foreign intelligence office is located nearby munich | Jun 25 17:22 |
| activelow | police and surveillance apparatus is hijacked by party politics | Jun 25 17:29 |
| schestowitz | EPO is in Munich | Jun 25 17:29 |
| activelow | https://www.dw.com/en/cybercrime-industrial-espionage-and-the-bnd/av-18447121 | Jun 25 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cybercrime: Industrial espionage and the BND | Made in Germany | DW | 12.05.2015 | Jun 25 17:31 | |
| techrights-news | "Time to grab some really good RPGs here as GOG are giving away the whole Shadowrun Trilogy for 72 hours. Again, this is part of their Summer Sale to try and pull more customers to their #DRMfree store." #gnu #linux supported. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/gog-are-giving-away-the-shadowrun-trilogy-for-72-hours | Jun 25 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOG are giving away the Shadowrun Trilogy for 72 hours | GamingOnLinux | Jun 25 17:32 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show how to install #Garuda #KDE Dragonized 210621." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZAdrwm3cg #gnu #linux | Jun 25 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Garuda KDE Dragonized 210621 - YouTube | Jun 25 17:33 | |
| activelow | maybe, since employment agency is located in Bavaria too (Nürnberg), they could shut down the data scrapers there first, which government subsidised themselves for "liberalisation" of labor market | Jun 25 17:35 |
| activelow | and maybe then, with the cash saved, pay engineers and scientists appropriately | Jun 25 17:35 |
| techrights-news | "The Wellcome Trust, which has arguably been second only to #BillGates in its ability to influence events during the #COVID19 crisis and vaccination campaign, launched its own global equivalent of the Pentagon’s secretive research agency last year" https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/a-leap-toward-humanitys-destruction/ | Jun 25 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A “Leap” toward Humanity’s Destruction - unlimitedhangout.com | Jun 25 17:36 | |
| techrights-news | #CentOS 8 to #RockyLinux 8 Migration: A Step-by-Step Tutorial ⚓ https://linuxiac.com/centos-to-rocky-linux-migration/ ䷉ #linuxiac | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | CentOS 8 to Rocky Linux 8 Migration: A Step-by-Step Tutorial | Jun 25 17:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 25 17:37 | |
| activelow | schestowitz: https://geopolitics.co/2015/05/04/industrial-espionage-the-prime-incentive-for-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 25 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-geopolitics.co | Industrial Espionage: The Prime Incentive for Mass Surveillance | Covert Geopolitics | Jun 25 17:38 | |
| activelow | "Nearly half of German businesses have been attacked at least once by hackers or cyber spies" | Jun 25 17:38 |
| activelow | irony is this, governmental buereaucrats and agencies spied on ME, i didn't spy on them; they violated my rights, i didn't violate theirs | Jun 25 17:39 |
| activelow | what I did was terminating the contract with German Telecom headquarters for various reasons, 2005 | Jun 25 17:39 |
| activelow | another proposal for them I had was rethinking their associations after German Telecom was privatised, and whose lobby interests were served with this | Jun 25 17:40 |
| techrights-news | MyGNUHealth Personal Health Record 1.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152647#comment-30058 | Jun 25 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to MyGNUHealth, the Libre Personal Health Record | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:42 | |
| techrights-news | "In recent months, #Google has launched several efforts to strengthen open-source security on multiple fronts. One important focus is improving how we identify and respond to known security vulnerabilities without doing extensive manual work." https://security.googleblog.com/2021/06/announcing-unified-vulnerability-schema.html but Google works for #NSA so... | Jun 25 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-security.googleblog.com | Google Online Security Blog: Announcing a unified vulnerability schema for open source | Jun 25 17:46 | |
| techrights-news | The #linuxfoundation now issues FUD against #linux ... and PAYING for it. Well, when #microsoft pays this foundation anything is possible! https://www.techradar.com/news/the-linux-kernel-may-not-be-quite-as-secure-as-it-should-be | Jun 25 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux kernel may not be quite as secure as it should be | TechRadar | Jun 25 17:49 | |
| *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Jun 25 17:52 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Host Counter-Strike: Global Offensive #Server on #Ubuntu • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152682 #GNU #Linux | Jun 25 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Host Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Server on Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:53 | |
| techrights-news | That's the same #google that put 'weakened' (fake) #encryption inside #linux #kernel (it was removed only after tons of backlash; I also wrote to Torvalds about this) https://techbeacon.com/security/rust-linux-google-pays-isrg-pay-miguel-ojeda | Jun 25 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust in Linux: Google pays ISRG to pay Miguel Ojeda | TechBeacon | Jun 25 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | #Security: Patches, Google, and #LinuxFoundation • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152683 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Google, and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:57 | |
| techrights-news | The 13 Most Interesting Changes Of #Linux 5.13 From #Apple M1 To #Security Enhancements • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152684 | Jun 25 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 13 Most Interesting Changes Of Linux 5.13 From Apple M1 To Security Enhancements | Tux Machines | Jun 25 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | question @channel | Jun 25 17:59 |
| schestowitz | re: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152683 | Jun 25 17:59 |
| schestowitz | is it worth doing article/video | Jun 25 18:00 |
| schestowitz | in which it's mentioned how LF is helping to make FUD against Linux | Jun 25 18:00 |
| schestowitz | and Google claims to push Rust for "security" while putting insecure junk in the kernel? | Jun 25 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to pick on LF for weak points that aren't weak enough | Jun 25 18:00 |
| schestowitz | as that would distract from more potent criticism of them | Jun 25 18:01 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152685 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:01 | |
| techrights-news | #Dedoimedo interviews: #KDE ’s pointiest stick, Nate Graham • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152686 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedoimedo interviews: KDE's pointiest stick, Nate Graham | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:08 | |
| techrights-news | #systemd 249-rc2 Released With New "ConditionOSRelease" Directive - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-249-rc2 ䷉ #deletegithub #proprietarySoftware #OSPD #IBM | Jun 25 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd 249-rc2 Released With New "ConditionOSRelease" Directive - Phoronix | Jun 25 18:09 | |
| techrights-news | #GNU / #Linux -based #AtariVCS Review ⚓ https://www.ign.com/articles/atari-vcs-review ䷉ #ign | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atari VCS Review - IGN | Jun 25 18:12 | |
| techrights-news | #gnu #linux #VollaPhone "This phone was beyond strange, but so much fun exploring it. #UbuntuTouch has come quite a ways since I looked at it in 2020." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neG2Z21epLI | Jun 25 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Volla Phone | Using Linux Phone instead of Android or Apple - YouTube | Jun 25 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | "question @channel" in http://techrights.org/irc/ -- feedback welcome. Don't want to leap onto an issue worth not exploring. | Jun 25 18:17 |
| *activelow thinking | Jun 25 18:19 | |
| techrights-news | #opensuse #gnu #linux "During this week, the updates have not caused any stir in the mailing lists, which is usually a good sign. We have released a total of 5 snapshots (0618, 0620, 0621, 0622, and 0623)." http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-25/ | Jun 25 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/25 – Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) | Jun 25 18:21 | |
| activelow | don't think the frontlines are Google against Linux, it is commercial interests and espionage in conflict with linux | Jun 25 18:22 |
| techrights-news | #Openwashing of #Cisco , a proprietary #surveillance giant https://www.fosslife.org/how-foster-collaboration-open-source-0 | Jun 25 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | How to Foster Collaboration with Open Source | Jun 25 18:23 | |
| activelow | Torvalds did object to rust | Jun 25 18:24 |
| techrights-news | #HPLIP Hewlett Packard printer drivers in #debian #gnu #linux based #EasyOOS https://bkhome.org/news/202106/hplip-hewlett-packard-printer-drivers.html | Jun 25 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | HPLIP Hewlett Packard printer drivers | Jun 25 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | activelow: but who is torvalds? | Jun 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | just some unruly bad person, according to his employer | Jun 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | it's not his call to make | Jun 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | [17:56] <techrights-news> That's the same #google that put 'weakened' (fake) #encryption inside #linux #kernel (it was removed only after tons of backlash; I also wrote to Torvalds about this) https://techbeacon.com/security/rust-linux-google-pays-isrg-pay-miguel-ojeda | Jun 25 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust in Linux: Google pays ISRG to pay Miguel Ojeda | TechBeacon | Jun 25 18:26 | |
| *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 25 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ | Jun 25 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights | Jun 25 18:26 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM / #RedHat: systemd, Ansible, and RHEL • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152687 | Jun 25 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: systemd, Ansible, and RHEL | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:29 | |
| techrights-news | #freeswcache as #ram with Intel #Bootguard • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152688 #coreboot | Jun 25 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source cache as ram with Intel Bootguard | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:34 | |
| activelow | schestowitz: Linux kernel and Gentoo (who consider Google their friend) do preserve some loopholes to circumvent various issues, none of them are some monolithic entities with a common agenda either, even in the realm of Microsoft | Jun 25 18:34 |
| techrights-news | Mario Golf: Super Rush Works Day 1 on Yuzu/Ryujinx - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/mario-golf-super-rush-works-day-1-on-yuzu-ryujinx/ ䷉ #boilingsteam #gnu #linux #games | Jun 25 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Mario Golf: Super Rush Works Day 1 on Yuzu/Ryujinx - Boiling Steam | Jun 25 18:35 | |
| techrights-news | "Nvidia is a lot more alive than Intel is, in terms of technology, and in this past week they have demonstrated their commitment to #Linux with the newest 470 drivers" https://boilingsteam.com/470-drivers-nvidia-steps-up-their-game/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Jun 25 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 470 Drivers: Nvidia Steps Up Their Game! - Boiling Steam | Jun 25 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Jun 25 18:36 | |
| techrights-news | DO NOT RELY ON #GOOGLE EVER! "Feedburner, which I have been using for years to serve email subscriptions, is ceasing the email service in a couple of weeks." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6167 | Jun 25 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Email Subscription Plugin Migration « bunnie's blog | Jun 25 18:37 | |
| techrights-news | #Google fakes commitment to security (whilst undermining it) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152683#comment-30059 #gulag #backdoor #nsa | Jun 25 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Google, and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:40 | |
| techrights-news | #Games : Shadowrun Trilogy, #AtariVCS Reviewed, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152689 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Shadowrun Trilogy, Atari VCS Reviewed, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | activelow: I saw some people agreeing with that | Jun 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | but how to argue my case on it, I'm not entirely sure yet... | Jun 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | many thing that google wants real security | Jun 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | [18:40] <techrights-news> #Google fakes commitment to security (whilst undermining it) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152683#comment-30059 #gulag #backdoor #nsa | Jun 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | The media, zdnet in this case, certainly promotes that storyline | Jun 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | also, they banned windows | Jun 25 18:46 |
| activelow | schestowitz: to shed some more light onto this from my perspective (which i don't intend to impose exclusively here on your techrights channel) | Jun 25 18:50 |
| techrights-news | Online history will be written (and preserved) by those with least technical debt ;-) i.e. those who can keep their site/s online in spite of many software updates, bills (with #freesw no such issue) and so on... | Jun 25 18:51 |
| techrights-news | " #WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 is now available for testing!This software is still in development, so it is not recommended to run this version on a production site. Consider setting up a test site to play with it." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/wordpress-5-8-beta-4/ #cms #gpl #freesw | Jun 25 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 – WordPress.org | Jun 25 18:52 | |
| activelow | i consider none of the mainstream systems be it either any GNU/Linux, Android or what Microsoft offers suitable, not at least compliant with regulations that those could be sold in germany | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | depends | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | gnu/linux has many systems/variant | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | even bsd has many | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | and some are unfit for purpose or proprietary | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | like routers with back doors | Jun 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | you don't want a reconnaissance drone with ubuntu on it | Jun 25 18:53 |
| schestowitz | because of many potential bugs, many severe | Jun 25 18:53 |
| activelow | "security" isn't specific or sufficiently defined either | Jun 25 18:53 |
| activelow | if Google and their developers are approached to implant something then they MUST do it | Jun 25 18:54 |
| activelow | besides Linux has little influence over what hardware is being sold with GNU/Linux being deployed to | Jun 25 18:55 |
| techrights-news | #mozilla Rally, sponsored by #google and says it'll give you privacy. My pole is 20 feet long. #firefox #www #BakerCorp | Jun 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | activelow: that's a different issue | Jun 25 18:59 |
| schestowitz | usually a big problem in Internet-connected machines | Jun 25 18:59 |
| schestowitz | that connect over wifi or ethernet | Jun 25 18:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▇▄▆▅▆▅▃▄▅▄▇▄▅▃▆▄█▄▄▅▄▄▆▂▃▄█▄▂▄▇▁ avg(k/sec) 29.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▃▂▂█▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 33.48▕ swarm size (avg): 304.62 ⟲ | Jun 25 19:00 |
| techrights-news | #Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (May 2021) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/06/25/performance-sheriff-newsletter-may-2021/ #firefox #www #freesw | Jun 25 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (May 2021) – Mozilla Performance | Jun 25 19:00 | |
| techrights-news | #GNU #Linux on #Chromebooks: Underappreciated versatility as an app solution • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152690 #chromeOS #TuxMachines | Jun 25 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Chromebooks: Underappreciated versatility as an app solution | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:03 | |
| techrights-news | #LLVM #Clang 12 Benchmarks At Varying Optimization Levels, LTO • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152691 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM Clang 12 Benchmarks At Varying Optimization Levels, LTO | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:03 | |
| activelow | it isn't linux kernel being junk or Torvalds to question for his credibility, it is hardware vendors and their contributions. in fact linux core components are few hundreds of lines of code only, the rest of several dozens of millions of lines of code are device driver modules and virtualisation bloat | Jun 25 19:04 |
| activelow | *hundreds of thousands | Jun 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | millions even | Jun 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | last I checked | Jun 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | some drivers are half a million lines long | Jun 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | like AMD | Jun 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | nobody except AMD would check them | Jun 25 19:05 |
| activelow | i removed them | Jun 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | but those types of drivers would not be required in small and simple systems | Jun 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | the problem is that as storage gets cheap vendors throw large distros on devices where lots of stuff isn't required and raises the attack surface | Jun 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | that's why some opt for openbsd | Jun 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | or even netbsd | Jun 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne does security for alpine linux | Jun 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | they go even further in removing cruft | Jun 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | $ ps aux | wc -l | Jun 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | 239 | Jun 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | this is a webserver ! centos | Jun 25 19:07 |
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| activelow | with compilers it is core components under heavy attack, regardless of GCC's qualities (lines of code again), it cannot be replaced with a true alternative (clang/llvm isn't any either) | Jun 25 19:12 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152692 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:15 | |
| activelow | the security circus fuss around rust isn't the crucial aspect, it is the compiler(s) itself | Jun 25 19:15 |
| techrights-news | #Librem Themes • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152693 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTK | Jun 25 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Librem Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:15 | |
| techrights-news | A busy weekend ahead perhaps? Steam Play Proton 6.3-5 is out now | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/a-busy-weekend-ahead-perhaps-steam-play-proton-63-5-is-out-now ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/25/#latest | Jun 25 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A busy weekend ahead perhaps? Steam Play Proton 6.3-5 is out now | GamingOnLinux | Jun 25 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 25 19:22 | |
| techrights-news | #linuxfoundation (whose staff runs #propriatarySoftware crap with #nsa back doors) nww suggests all sorts of cargo cult fake #security because of #OSTIF http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ | Jun 25 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights | Jun 25 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | #WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152694 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:26 | |
| techrights-news | #LinuxFoundation #openwashing #listeningdevices and promoting #Microsoft again https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-foundation-launches-open-voice-network-to-build-industrywide-digital-assistant-standards/ in their paid-for media partners http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ | Jun 25 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Foundation launches Open Voice Network to build industrywide digital assistant standards - TechRepublic | Jun 25 19:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called ‘Linux’ Foundation | Techrights | Jun 25 19:28 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM reduced to a list of mostly mindless buzzwords https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/data-and-ai-developer-digital-conference-on-demand-replays-are-ready-for-you/ | Jun 25 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Data and AI Developer Digital Conference on-demand replays are ready for you – IBM Developer | Jun 25 19:30 | |
| techrights-news | Whether Linus Torvalds wishes to rock the boat that’s the so-called ‘Linux’ Foundation is totally up to him, but it might help if people contact him directly, especially longtime users and proponents of GNU/Linux. http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ | Jun 25 19:31 |
| techrights-news | https | Jun 25 19:32 |
| techrights-news | "I am aware that the small internet won't be sued soon, because no one cares. However hosting a service in the EU as a private person has become dangerous and you don't want to end up with a fine in the 10k range for infringement" #gdpr and #geminiProtocol https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006796.html | Jun 25 19:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | GDPR and the protocol implications | Jun 25 19:33 | |
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| activelow | https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/5/5/527 , well well, gcc cannot be compiled with any sane compiler anymore (pcc or similar) | Jun 25 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult": Re: [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support | Jun 25 19:38 | |
| MinceR | 25 135416 <~schestowitz> my guess is that it is not possible and tabs can only compensate for <=5 chars diff, by default.. | Jun 25 19:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 25 19:38 |
| activelow | "Rust seems to be a fast moving target. Even building a Rust compiler can | Jun 25 19:39 |
| MinceR | if you can use some sort of format string to specify a width for a given field (and fill up the remaining part with spaces), it's doable | Jun 25 19:39 |
| activelow | be a pretty complex task" | Jun 25 19:39 |
| *activelow waits | Jun 25 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | I could not think of a workaround, MinceR | Jun 25 19:39 |
| schestowitz | like multi-tabbing before and after | Jun 25 19:39 |
| gustaf | time to go back to Pascal | Jun 25 19:39 |
| schestowitz | ah | Jun 25 19:39 |
| activelow | "Gcc, in constrast, itself can be built on older compilers" -> NO, it can't | Jun 25 19:39 |
| activelow | tried to track this some weeks ago, iirc it was some gcc 3.6 or 2.96 which could be compiled with tinycc (as a proof of concept), any later GCC is dead end | Jun 25 19:41 |
| activelow | another such act of sabotage was c++ lock-in to GCC | Jun 25 19:41 |
| activelow | GCC 4.7 iirc | Jun 25 19:42 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: multiple tabs are likely to become misaligned, but maybe it's not an issue in your case | Jun 25 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to align plaintext files | Jun 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | as fields | Jun 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | so designate a field x chars wide, with input for that field of varying lengths | Jun 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | to make it more readable but also efficient enough (it's rerun every 5 mins) http://techrights.org/irc/ | Jun 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | the alternative is to kickban everyone with a nickname too short or too long ;-) ;-) | Jun 25 19:45 |
| activelow | sadly linux kernel itself moved ahead locking out some old gcc versions itself too, meaning any later kernel version requires a minimum GCC version | Jun 25 19:45 |
| schestowitz | ("Sorry, come back with nickname between x and y long ;-" ) | Jun 25 19:45 |
| activelow | another problem was aarch64 isn't backported to anything predating gcc 4.7 iirc (could be in error with my judgement here) | Jun 25 19:46 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: or you could just do it like most sane irc clients do and not align for nicks at all | Jun 25 19:47 |
| activelow | so, what's the hassle with c++ in this context? even if gcc and clang were replaced with PCC for example (which lacks aarch64 too) then c++ support was missing to bootstrap gcc | Jun 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | i think it's pointless to waste a lot of space on screen just because nick lengths vary greatly | Jun 25 19:47 |
| techrights-news | Links 25/6/2021: WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 and Librem GTK Themes • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/librem-gtk-themes/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/25/librem-gtk-themes/ | Jun 25 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/6/2021: WordPress 5.8 Beta 4 and Librem GTK Themes | Techrights | Jun 25 19:48 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152695 | Jun 25 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I try to turn irc into simpler things, like gemini | Jun 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz | whereas freenode wants to impose bloated apps with trackers | Jun 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz | it is an ongoing effort | Jun 25 19:49 |
| gustaf | IRC is as simple as it gets | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] <MinceR> schestowitz: or you could just do it like most sane irc clients do and not align for nicks at all | Jun 25 19:50 |
| gustaf | all the complexity is to combat abuse | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | for fixed-width fonts it makes things less legible | Jun 25 19:50 |
| gustaf | becuase it is so simple | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | gustaf: not as simple anymore | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | as many run GUIs | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | in techrights we have html and txt versions | Jun 25 19:50 |
| schestowitz | e.g. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-240621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-240621.txt | Jun 25 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 24, 2021 | Jun 25 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | for gemini, at the moment we're working with a read-only, no 'push', backend | Jun 25 19:53 |
| schestowitz | so no way to post /to/ IRC from that server | Jun 25 19:53 |
| schestowitz | unless you craft certain url requests | Jun 25 19:53 |
| schestowitz | which would in turn push an argument into the irc daemon | Jun 25 19:53 |
| activelow | a piece of history predating the rust attack: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc1MDQ | Jun 25 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds On GCC 4.9: Pure & Utter Crap - Phoronix | Jun 25 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/ | Jun 25 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Beware Mozilla and Rust, They’re Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | Techrights | Jun 25 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | a lot has happened since then | Jun 25 19:54 |
| schestowitz | like Microsoft entering board of Rust Foundation, the newly-formed one | Jun 25 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I have little faith in those people | Jun 25 19:55 |
| schestowitz | and they want to make rust learning a requirement for doing kernel work, inc. understanding it | Jun 25 19:55 |
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| activelow | schestowitz: i am not in opposition to rust (and improving upon coding skills), i am in opposition to the vendor lock-in with the compilers in question and their dependency graph | Jun 25 19:56 |
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| XFaCE | Abstraction has been proven a useful tool for vendor lock-in. | Jun 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | they want more than one compiler | Jun 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | and that would worsen things | Jun 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: correct. | Jun 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | even GUIs | Jun 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | over time, and I've programmer since a teen, I found that all the GUI work I did was technical debt | Jun 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | suddenly old programs can no longer run | Jun 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | or barely run | Jun 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | what was supposed to make life easy becomes a liability | Jun 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | "Anyone know what the problem is with the #radeonhd IRC log that used to be maintained at RadeonHD.org? They haven't been updated since the 17th. " | Jun 25 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/open-source-amd-linux/5733-irc-logs | Jun 25 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC Logs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | #phoronix also stopped its own | Jun 25 20:01 |
| schestowitz | about 10 years ago | Jun 25 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Michael Larabel: "Oops, sorry about that. Somehow that process got killed and I just noticed it now... I've restarted the RadeonHD recording process so it should be back to normal. Thanks for reporting it!" | Jun 25 20:01 |
| schestowitz | "Oops, rebooted the server yesterday and forgot about restarting them They're back up now." | Jun 25 20:02 |
| XFaCE | <schestowitz> XFaCE: correct. | Jun 25 20:02 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxNQ | Jun 25 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phoronix IRC Channel - Phoronix | Jun 25 20:02 | |
| schestowitz | 2008: "Due to the request of users on the Phoronix Forums, we now have a Phoronix IRC channel. On #phoronix at FreeNode.net you can discuss the latest Linux articles, hardware compatibility, the Phoronix Test Suite, and more. We'll have a web-based IRC chat log viewer on Phoronix in a few days. Enjoy!" | Jun 25 20:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i see no legibility issues with fixed width + no alignment | Jun 25 20:02 |
| XFaCE | Not only that, but in order to lower the bar to do low level code using safe languages, it has lowered the quality of developer in my experience. | Jun 25 20:02 |
| schestowitz | this was months after we had done the same | Jun 25 20:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: if you scroll up in that example page, you will see what i mean http://techrights.org/irc/ | Jun 25 20:03 |
| schestowitz | though I found even different password set the tabbing length differently | Jun 25 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I thought about converting tabs to whitespaces | Jun 25 20:03 |
| XFaCE | Java isn't low-level, but an example of the principle of lowering developer quality | Jun 25 20:03 |
| schestowitz | to overcome this, but not sure how to then use it in another line-by-line pass to align the columns | Jun 25 20:04 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: partly true | Jun 25 20:04 |
| XFaCE | The more the compiler compensates for the developer, the greater chance the developer will take less care | Jun 25 20:04 |
| schestowitz | the problem is CS depts that teach java | Jun 25 20:04 |
| schestowitz | it's ok to teach java, but not as alternative to low level and C | Jun 25 20:04 |
| XFaCE | Correct, it isn't Java itself | Jun 25 20:04 |
| schestowitz | because then students don't really understand how computers work | Jun 25 20:04 |
| MinceR | i think only one irc client i used did nick alignment (xchat) | Jun 25 20:05 |
| XFaCE | it's the corporate excuse of using Java to allow for lower skilled developers | Jun 25 20:05 |
| MinceR | and it turned out to be a waste of screen space | Jun 25 20:05 |
| schestowitz | they become like box booters to sys admins | Jun 25 20:05 |
| MinceR | and i only ever used fixed width typefaces with IRC | Jun 25 20:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, xchat does this | Jun 25 20:05 |
| gustaf | weechat too | Jun 25 20:05 |
| gustaf | by default | Jun 25 20:05 |
| schestowitz | it puts a line and right-aligned nicks, then left-aligns what they say | Jun 25 20:05 |
| schestowitz | we want to move into a more text-centric feel/direction | Jun 25 20:06 |
| schestowitz | because it would simplify the gemini side | Jun 25 20:06 |
| schestowitz | this page almost looks OK now: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi | Jun 25 20:07 |
| schestowitz | almost | Jun 25 20:07 |
| schestowitz | one workaround was to put the nick at the end of lines | Jun 25 20:08 |
| schestowitz | but it would worsen things | Jun 25 20:08 |
| schestowitz | gemini does not do tables | Jun 25 20:08 |
| schestowitz | webproxy: https://gemini.susa.net:1993/cgi-bin/Proxy.sh?url=gemini%3A%2F%2Fgemini.techrights.org%2Fchat%2Findex.gmi | Jun 25 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Jun 25 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | this one does not even use 'unispace' | Jun 25 20:10 |
| MinceR | i think i disabled it pretty quickly in weechat | Jun 25 20:11 |
| schestowitz | a lot of gemini clients that are widely used work that way | Jun 25 20:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe I also wrongly assume many choose to render text files in their browsers using fixed width font | Jun 25 20:14 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjIyMQ | Jun 25 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC Archives At RadeonHD.org - Phoronix | Jun 25 20:14 | |
| schestowitz | I think phoronix completely abolish those archives, too | Jun 25 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes, those links are all broken now,e.g. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=irc_viewer&d=2010-05-08 | Jun 25 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Hardware Reviews, Open-Source Benchmarks & Linux Performance - Phoronix | Jun 25 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | via https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODIzMA | Jun 25 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-At This Rate, Don't Be Surprised If You See Steam Soon - Phoronix | Jun 25 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | turns out that in freenode only 11 people are left in #phoronix | Jun 25 20:16 |
| schestowitz | including zoobab | Jun 25 20:16 |
| schestowitz | when I just checked I was 12th | Jun 25 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I suppose michael wants everything managed in his forums | Jun 25 20:17 |
| schestowitz | last I checked some years ago, michael wasn't even in the #phoronix IRC channel himself (not anymore) | Jun 25 20:17 |
| schestowitz | we need to think how to make commenting easier | Jun 25 20:18 |
| schestowitz | sans the spam | Jun 25 20:18 |
| MinceR | i think irc clients are easy enough to use | Jun 25 20:18 |
| MinceR | especially if i think about what sorts of simpletons i've seen use them | Jun 25 20:19 |
| gustaf | burn | Jun 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Kiwi IRC became very unreliable latelty | Jun 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | and maybe we should just removed it unless they plan to repair it soon | Jun 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe due to limited capacity | Jun 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | "Error Connecting (Error: xhr poll error)" | Jun 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | every time, every browser | Jun 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/snoonet/comments/5gn4bu/error_connecting_error_xhr_poll_error/ | Jun 25 20:22 |
| schestowitz | "Impressive; The last time this happened was in fact a year ago when the HTTPS certificates expired!" | Jun 25 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Error Connecting (Error: xhr poll error) : snoonet | Jun 25 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | I think that is in fact the reason | Jun 25 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I saw something to that effect recently | Jun 25 20:22 |
| activelow | to move ahead i had to implement an arm64 backend for PCC, probably, fix u-boot loader related issues, compile/cross-compile kernel and busybox | Jun 25 20:22 |
| activelow | and then with use.mask cxx in place see what remains within the gentoo tree | Jun 25 20:22 |
| schestowitz | prawnsalad "One of the servers didn't get it's certificate update a few days ago but it has now been updated today. Let me know if you're still having any issues." | Jun 25 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I'll wait and see if they sort out the cert | Jun 25 20:23 |
| schestowitz | my understanding is that prawnsalad got fed up with this whole thing | Jun 25 20:23 |
| activelow | next problem: explain this to employment agency and Deutsche Telekom (which can sue me with ~20K already and raising claims of ~7% annually for their shareholders) | Jun 25 20:24 |
| activelow | hopefully i don't receiver another letter threatening me with incarceration, from munich | Jun 25 20:24 |
| schestowitz | there is also https://webchat.quakenet.org/ | Jun 25 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Web IRC (qwebirc) | Jun 25 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | they have a #ubuntu channel | Jun 25 20:31 |
| schestowitz | 5th biggest network https://netsplit.de/networks/history/top10_2021u.png | Jun 25 20:31 |
| techrights-news | #freenode lost 2/3 of its users in a few months https://netsplit.de/networks/history/top10_2021u.png | Jun 25 20:32 |
| schestowitz | webchat.se.quakenet.org used to be in the millions (of users) | Jun 25 20:33 |
| schestowitz | http://cgiirc.org/ | Jun 25 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgiirc.org | CGI:IRC - Web based IRC Client | Jun 25 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | last release 6 June 2017 | Jun 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | it seems neat and simple | Jun 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://cgiirc.blitzed.org/ | Jun 25 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgiirc.blitzed.org | CGI:IRC Login | Jun 25 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | also self-hosted | Jun 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/net/cgiirc | Jun 25 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.debian.org | Debian -- Error | Jun 25 20:35 | |
| schestowitz | "1. Ability to run CGI scripts using Perl 5.004 or greater" | Jun 25 20:36 |
| schestowitz | we meet this req | Jun 25 20:36 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jun 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | this thing is almost 20 years old | Jun 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | and barely works | Jun 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | I tried on our own server | Jun 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | no luck so far | Jun 25 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jun 25 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Generally if you pay your host enough they will let you run CGI:IRC, but beware | Jun 25 20:57 |
| schestowitz | it does use a lot of memory because each user uses a web server process and a | Jun 25 20:57 |
| schestowitz | perl process. This is due to the stream based nature and the fact most | Jun 25 20:57 |
| schestowitz | webservers are designed to serve static content. | Jun 25 20:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 25 20:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▄▇▅▇▅▃▅▆▁▅▆▃▆▇▅▅▆▅▇▅▆▅▅▇▅▆▇▂▃▅▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 28.78 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂█▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 30.58▕ swarm size (avg): 304.63 ⟲ | Jun 25 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pkgsrc.se/chat/cgiirc https://www.freshports.org/irc/cgiirc/ | Jun 25 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgsrc.se | The NetBSD package collection | Jun 25 21:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freshports.org | FreshPorts -- irc/cgiirc: IRC web gateway written in Perl | Jun 25 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/1067/preferred-web-based-irc-application | Jun 25 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webapps.stackexchange.com | webapp rec - Preferred web based IRC application? - Web Applications Stack Exchange | Jun 25 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | "If you need to host your own web IRC client, this is pretty much the only option I know for open source packages. Unfortunately, it hasn't been updated since 2006. " | Jun 25 21:02 |
| schestowitz | some years ago I tried installing https://qwebirc.org/ but had issues with that too | Jun 25 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qwebirc.org | News - the qwebirc project | Jun 25 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | It moved to shithub a year before Microsoft stole it | Jun 25 21:03 |
| schestowitz | tons of python and openjdk | Jun 25 21:04 |
| techrights-news | #Proton 6.3-5 Adds Support for Civilization VI, Far Cry, Dark Devotion, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152696 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proton 6.3-5 Adds Support for Civilization VI, Far Cry, Dark Devotion, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 25 21:05 | |
| schestowitz/fn | ignore (test) | Jun 25 21:12 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: the tuxmachines channel bridge seems to be a one-way bridge, I've only just noticed | Jun 25 21:13 |
| schestowitz | or maybe permissions related issue | Jun 25 21:13 |
| schestowitz | ah, never mind, op fixed it! | Jun 25 21:14 |
| XRevan86 | RELAYMSG needs op, yes. | Jun 25 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | on this cool side of the bridge :) | Jun 25 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I've been experimenting with some self-hosted web based IRC clients | Jun 25 21:16 |
| schestowitz | the good ones are proprietary | Jun 25 21:17 |
| schestowitz | and centrealised to a degree | Jun 25 21:17 |
| schestowitz | like the IRC.com "app" I suppose | Jun 25 21:17 |
| schestowitz | taking IRC to the "next level" = privatising it | Jun 25 21:17 |
| psymin | :( | Jun 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | freenode lost 2/3 of its users in a few months https://netsplit.de/networks/history/top10_2021u.png | Jun 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | so Lee failed | Jun 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | many "Apps" are just repackages web stuff | Jun 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | like "ajax" (old term) | Jun 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | nodejs etc. | Jun 25 21:18 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know how these KiwiIRC applications are designed. | Jun 25 21:19 | |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwiirc-mobile hm, it looks kind of differently | Jun 25 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - kiwiirc/kiwiirc-mobile | Jun 25 21:20 | |
| XRevan86 | "nodejs" – absolutely | Jun 25 21:20 |
| schestowitz | nodejs = don't even start1 | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | ! | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Vue.js | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Vue 70.6% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that Microsoft is killing off Skype. | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | JavaScript 23.6% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | SCSS 2.9% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | TypeScript 1.4% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | It seems to be specifically written though, not repackaged. | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Ruby 1.1% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | CSS 0.4% | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | even some microsoft in the mix | Jun 25 21:21 |
| schestowitz | probably some files he reused | Jun 25 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | No mention of Skype at all in the Windows 11 announcement. | Jun 25 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently prawnsalad is just very-very JS oriented. | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what's skype? | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | TEAMS!! | Jun 25 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | My laptop has a hardware key to bring up Teams. | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | 10000000000% growth | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | in a few years | Jun 25 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I guess Lenovo knew what was coming. | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | SHareholders, buy our shit! | Jun 25 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: In place of the ThinkVantage button maybe? :) | Jun 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | ok, nap time | Jun 25 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I still haven't received any word of that cardboard coffin shipping to send the laptop in for warranty. | Jun 25 21:23 |
| techrights-news | Will We Soon Be Running Linux On SiFive Cores Made By Intel? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152697 | Jun 25 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Will We Soon Be Running Linux On SiFive Cores Made By Intel? | Tux Machines | Jun 25 21:24 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152698 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 25 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 21:25 | |
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| MinceR | why trust intel with that | Jun 25 21:32 |
| activelow | intel + xilinx or altera, don't remember who is who | Jun 25 21:32 |
| activelow | risc-v swaps the ISA only with the same business entities remaining vendor locked-in, with the required tooling for circuit design and deployment, compilers, leave alone fabrication capacity | Jun 25 21:43 |
| MinceR | and intel develops a hw backdoor for it | Jun 25 21:43 |
| activelow | the aggressive marketing to support risc-v seeks to attract devlopers and investors, legitimately maybe, to compete against ARM (which Nvidia intends to acquire) | Jun 25 21:45 |
| activelow | the only relevant option may be j-core.org, for which software infrastructure and compiler support exists, yet i am not convinced GCC is future-proof anymore either | Jun 25 21:47 |
| activelow | at Deutsche Telekom i had encountered Altera (with their tooling installed on windows systems of cause); an intel engineer visited us, issued a warning the business was short-lived, 5 years and a fab was taken down | Jun 25 21:51 |
| activelow | in retrospective, couldn't have imagined business interests swinging an axe against PCC compiler, TeX and anything relevant involved with this | Jun 25 21:54 |
| activelow | it is a ruinous act of sabotage against science and engineering, globally, which predates Trump and his "america first" | Jun 25 21:59 |
| activelow | once dust of this globalized economic warfare settled I doubt any more than a few PALs and GALs remain to fiddle together some traffic light circuitry at *free* Universities | Jun 25 22:02 |
| MinceR | it's what the NSA does, among others | Jun 25 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It turns out that they did tuck something good into that "police reform" law. The courts can no longer impose driver's license suspension on people who don't pay traffic tickets. They have to find some other way to pressure you to come up with the money. | Jun 25 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard horror stories about people being nabbed repeatedly for driving without a license because the fines kept piling up and they could effectively never get it back. | Jun 25 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, with the complete wreck that is state IT, I wonder how many license suspensions were in error, or someone paid up to clear it and the DMV never got notified, etc. | Jun 25 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that a lot of people who do show up to contest their tickets have nothing to do that day for whatever reason while the people who just drop a ticket in the mail with a guilty plea and accept higher insurance rates (like MARISOL) actually do that because they are too busy to respond properly. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | It reasons that the folks with nothing to lose by fighting it have all sorts of time on their hands, and so the system is actually biased against people who have to be at work and can't take off to fight a petty offense. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Since 95% of the public just drops the ticket in the mail and considers it a loss right away, the police have much incentive to ticket as many people as they can, whether they can bother to get their facts straight or not, or however likely or unlikely they are to prevail in court. If it never goes there, it doesn't matter. It's free money for the government. | Jun 25 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's a law of averages for me. I can demand trial and appear any time they tell me to. | Jun 25 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Statistically, if you have an 80% chance of beating it outright and most of the remainder is court supervision (which you can't get if you drop it in the mail) that stops your insurance company from bilking thousands of dollars out of you over a ticket, and you have nothing better to do, you tell the state to put up or shut up. | Jun 25 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I got into the court's computer and went over Beavis and Butthead's records. | Jun 25 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | They went on for several pages. Short story is at least one of them is litigious (Slippin' Jimmy) and both of them have criminal history where they fail to appear at their own trials. | Jun 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | That's what our society is turning into. The guy who goes to Walmart and slips on a banana peel. | Jun 25 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, that's.....where this whole thing is at right now. | Jun 25 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to modernization of the court system due to the Coronavirus, the level of information asymmetry is lower than it used to be. | Jun 25 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, New York took away Rudy Giuliani's law license. | Jun 25 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | I guess his Braveheart routine on January 6th had some consequence, at least. | Jun 25 22:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 25 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | I worked with my attorney to file a 505 motion. We got a trial that's my husband's day off anyway, so he can come to court and testify. | Jun 25 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I also couldn't pull the tape from the convenience store, but I was able to extrapolate what it may have seen, at the most. | Jun 25 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | There was nothing pointed at my part of the intersection where the other driver claims I made an incomplete stop. | Jun 25 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I say that I did make a complete stop, but regardless.... | Jun 25 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | The state's burden is to prove that I didn't and without any direct evidence....That's harder, even if it were true. | Jun 25 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | The totality of the circumstances is probably a wash, in my opinion. | Jun 25 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | And if a judge is up there going "It's a 50/50 and nobody that is unbiased has any direct knowlesge of what went on.", that's not enough to reach "beyond a reasonable doubt". | Jun 25 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | The only people who are going to be called in to court don't want to be blamed and could potentially be saying anything to avoid blame as far as the judge would see it. | Jun 25 22:28 |
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| activelow | anwyway, the *economic warfare* is sidelined by an *ideological* one too, to push politically motivated agendas agnostic towards the relevant technical concerns | Jun 25 22:57 |
| activelow | if navigated around vendor booby traps, it is almost certain to step foot onto an idealogically loaded mine | Jun 25 22:58 |
| activelow | this is the issue with state owned non-privates insitutions nowadays in germany, which are subverted and hijacked by insane party politics | Jun 25 22:59 |
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| XFaCE | <schestowitz> XFaCE: the tuxmachines channel bridge seems to be a one-way bridge, I've only just noticed | Jun 25 23:10 |
| XFaCE | Am I still there? | Jun 25 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: When I just brought the bridge to tuxmachines and ye said ye got it opped, I immediately restart it then to reset it if it's not persistent :) | Jun 25 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | is it persistent this time? | Jun 25 23:14 |
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| immibis | wow, 30 messages from DaemonFC and no racism, unless i missed it by skimming | Jun 25 23:36 |
| *XRevan86 is a person of colour recognised by the Coalition of Communities of Color, by the way. | Jun 25 23:39 | |
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| activelow | my onion circuits interrupted rather often in recent 48hours again, yesterday my IRC box crashed even, which it rarely ever does | Jun 25 23:47 |
| activelow | which is somewhat ironic, if Munich wanted to read techrights news IRC logs are published for them | Jun 25 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | My lawyer said he hates Zoom too. | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | "I have trials that were taking ten minutes in person that take two hours on Zoom." because the call drops or the app isn't working right, or someone's microphone doesn't work, or other people keep turning theirs on and breathing into them and rubbing them up and down their face. | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | I can see how it would piss him off. It's normally go down to the court house, motion up all your cases, bust four or five out, and you get to bill each one of them for an hour even though it took you 20 minutes tops, including driving down there and back, each one. | Jun 25 23:57 |
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