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| schestowitz | How to fix The system cannot find the file specified error on Windows 10 | May 26 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | 1. Restart your computer | May 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/the-system-cannot-find-the-file-specified/ | May 26 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | FIXED: The System Cannot Find the File Specified (Error) | May 26 00:00 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 26 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/events/community-meeting-on-the-future-of-our-irc-presence | May 26 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Community meeting on the future of our IRC presence — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | May 26 00:01 | |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i'll be there, supporting freenode | May 26 00:01 |
| alextee[m] | "folks" | May 26 00:01 |
| alextee[m] | i don't really trust the fsf staff, i think most of them are sjws | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | but that is all I can see in my feeds about IRC | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: good! | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | explain what the 'scandal' is about | May 26 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | can you give me a concise way to say it? | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: PIA was TOP sponsor of FSF last year | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | 50,000 dollar | May 26 00:02 |
| schestowitz | *dollars | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | and more than any GAFAM company | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | IN SPITE of the anti-RMS campaign | May 26 00:03 |
| CrystalMath | right, i should take notes about what to say | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | that's one member of staff | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | $50,000 | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | where was IBM? | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Attacking FSF | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | organising petitions | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | with its staff | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | and front groups | May 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fsf.org/patrons/fy2020 | May 26 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | May 26 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | PIA at the top | May 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | only one | May 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | no IBM, no Google, no HP... | May 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | PIA has debt | May 26 00:04 |
| Sophist_UK | Roy, I think it is fair to say that there has been a lot of emotion clouding people's judgements. A lot of them had invested a big chunk of their lives into it, and they felt (rightly or wrongly) under attack. Hence some of the emoptive language being used. Whilst crude language doesn't help, it is perhaps understandable. I don't think that is the crux of the issue either and somewhat | May 26 00:04 |
| Sophist_UK | prudish to stress this so negatively in your article. | May 26 00:04 |
| MinceR | and where were jose, amdj and RichiH? they were trying to cancel RMS so that IBM and microsoft could take over | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | FSF probably wrote the above because of passive-aggressive trolls | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | who says things like, "HOW CAN WE FEEL SAFE!!!!" | May 26 00:05 |
| Sophist_UK | The issue is really about trust. And right now I don't know who to trust. | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | the same who bullied RMS into CoC | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | which he never surrendered to | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | he told me the kind comms thing is NOT a CoC | May 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | next they'll tell FSF that a boycott is in order unless they start removing "racist" terms like master | May 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | until they surrender | May 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: +1 | May 26 00:06 |
| *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights | May 26 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ | May 26 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights | May 26 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: I support staying in this network until I see a REAL scandal | May 26 00:07 |
| Sophist_UK | Trouble is, when I read what some people are saying here e.g. about RMS, it feels pretty much like the emotive, one-sided rants that the freenode folks have been accused of. | May 26 00:07 |
| schestowitz | you can tell #fsf that | May 26 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Sophist_UK: there are divisive forces | May 26 00:08 |
| schestowitz | we do NOT try to divide on this | May 26 00:08 |
| schestowitz | au contraire, since 3 weeks ago we've been trying to defuse this | May 26 00:08 |
| Sophist_UK | Roy - that sounds like conspiracy theory talk "divisive forces" | May 26 00:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/04/24/gnu-kind-communications-guidelines/ | May 26 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Comment on the Open Letter to Remove RMS, Based on the GNU Kind Communications Guidelines | Techrights | May 26 00:09 | |
| Sophist_UK | OK let's check some facts: | May 26 00:09 |
| schestowitz | we know who does the dividing http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | May 26 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | May 26 00:09 | |
| Sophist_UK | 1. Did Andrew Lee take over someone else's channel without due process? Yes or no. | May 26 00:09 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: libera did | May 26 00:09 |
| CrystalMath | many | May 26 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: "without due process" | May 26 00:09 |
| Sophist_UK | Evidence please? | May 26 00:09 |
| Sophist_UK | But I asked about Andrew Lee doing so? | May 26 00:10 |
| Sophist_UK | Because that has been claimed. | May 26 00:10 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about the IRC thing almost 3 weeks ago http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | May 26 00:10 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: how in the world do you expect me to provide it? i owned a channel and they just took it because i forwarded to freenode | May 26 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | May 26 00:10 | |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: but i'm far from the only one | May 26 00:10 |
| schestowitz | tomaw and his "posse" (what my source calls it) were canceling pro-RMS people | May 26 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: They took his channels because he restricted access to them and redirected to Freenode. | May 26 00:10 |
| CrystalMath | correct ^ | May 26 00:11 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: That sounds exactly like what AL was accused of. | May 26 00:11 |
| Sophist_UK | for ##hnsomething. | May 26 00:11 |
| CrystalMath | i don't lie about the purpose, i wanted to prevent the community from splitting, however... | May 26 00:11 |
| CrystalMath | after chatting about it on #libera there i have decided that both networks should be allowed to do this | May 26 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: ##hntop, and not exactly – the access was not restricted there. | May 26 00:11 |
| CrystalMath | why prevent discussions and hold channel names? | May 26 00:12 |
| CrystalMath | it's aggressive | May 26 00:12 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: so i do not blame the libera staff for this, i just don't want them to be able to be hypocrites about it | May 26 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | it is *now* against the freenode policy to abandon channels directing to different networks | May 26 00:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: that's a draft, but yeah that is great | May 26 00:12 |
| Sophist_UK | If there is one thing I loathe it is hypocrisy. | May 26 00:12 |
| alextee[m] | from what i gather so far the problem is caused by ariadne or whatever that person is called. how did a company form and how/why did she sell it? | May 26 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i believe now that both networks should take channels if they're just locked down to move to a different network | May 26 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | alextee[m]: not ariadne! :P | May 26 00:13 |
| alextee[m] | i haven't seen clarity on this ^ | May 26 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | alextee[m]: it was Christel you mean? | May 26 00:13 |
| techrights-bot | So many "reviews" I see in so-called 'news' sites are nowadays pure spam, ads. This isn't a new problem, but as news sites and journalism perish almost all "reviews" are fake and paid-for junk. #www is a garbage dump of advertisers. | May 26 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | alextee[m]: Ariadne didn't own freenode | May 26 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne owns Techrights infrastructure though | May 26 00:13 |
| alextee[m] | and how did that company suddenly become an owner of the domain? | May 26 00:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | I don't quite comprehend why anyone has a problem with a channel being taken over and removed if it is just a redirect to another network. | May 26 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: Whose? Libera for taking channels and supporting bashing freenode for taking channels or Freenode's for taking channels and then retroactively make a policy for that with any apologies? | May 26 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | alextee[m]: the domain always had an owner | May 26 00:14 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: really? So if I am running a FOSS project and I decide to close a channel on Libera or Freenode and move to the other, it is OK for one of the ops to reopen it in competition to my official community even though I am trying to move the community elsewhere? Or is this just for a class of channel? | May 26 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | stormchaser3000: you are right | May 26 00:14 |
| stormchaser3000 | not to be rude of course, but to me it would just be common sense that a network should be allowed to do that | May 26 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: Ye confused Ariadne and Christel | May 26 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: ah we're not talking about # channels, you can't take over a # channel unless you are involved with the project | May 26 00:15 |
| alextee[m] | right, sorry I'm not familiar with the names | May 26 00:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | Sophist_UK: there are other ways to notify a userbase that there was an IRC network change | May 26 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: read the policy, even the draft | May 26 00:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | if the project has a website, they could announce it on the index page | May 26 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | and yea, before Christel transferred the domain to Freenode, Ltd. it was a Head of Staff that had the domain in ownership. | May 26 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: but still a name was there in the owners list | May 26 00:15 |
| Sophist_UK | I have read the policy. | May 26 00:16 |
| alextee[m] | so how did ownership go from head of staff to freenode ltd? | May 26 00:16 |
| stormchaser3000 | such a change may also be announced via an RSS feed and through press releases | May 26 00:16 |
| alextee[m] | this is what I'm not understanding | May 26 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: so you have to be involved with the project to hold the # | May 26 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: Because Christel transferred did. | May 26 00:16 |
| Sophist_UK | Ok. I guess I can agree about ##channels. | May 26 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i imagine that if you're involved with a project and the rest of the project doesn't want freenode, and you take the freenode channel to split the community, you'll be removed from the project :P | May 26 00:16 |
| alextee[m] | so it's in andrew's control now rightfully | May 26 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: and then you will no longer qualify to hold the # | May 26 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | s/did/it/ | May 26 00:17 |
| techrights-bot | Presumption that #patents are invalid, by default, would be well overdue. Your #patent is worthless until properly proven in a court of law. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/recordation-requirements-unenforceability.html #swpats | May 26 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Recordation Requirements and a Certificate of Unenforceability | Patently-O | May 26 00:17 | |
| Sophist_UK | alextee[m]: Rightfully is a very black/white word. | May 26 00:17 |
| alextee[m] | what else did the company own? I mean if it's explicitly in a contract somewhere that freenode inc has ownership of all this stuff then the freenode staff can't really complain | May 26 00:17 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: the trouble is some people see fit to shut down freenode channels without asking other contributors | May 26 00:17 |
| alextee[m] | Sophist_UK: i mean "legally" then | May 26 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: And she was also a member of the Board. | May 26 00:17 |
| Sophist_UK | alextee[m]: Legally is not at all the same as rightfully. | May 26 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://i.postimg.cc/GhhvzRJj/image.png Andrew shared this screenshot earlier. | May 26 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: and rightfully, freenode was never a collectively owned kolkhoz | May 26 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: No one knows what's in the contract. | May 26 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | that's just in the minds of the now-libera staff | May 26 00:18 |
| stormchaser3000 | well, I am going to duck out for this conversation. When a consensus/agreement has been reached, someone please send me a PM | May 26 00:18 |
| techrights-bot | Corrupt #EPO lets people monopolise #cannabis stuff; who invented cannabis? Can we invent and #patent 'God' too? Or patent Mother Nature? https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/the-european-patent-office-grants-cannabics-pharmaceuticals-patent-for-company-s-personalized-medicine-drug-discovery-technology/ | May 26 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The European Patent Office Grants Cannabics Pharmaceuticals Patent for Company's Personalized Medicine Drug Discovery Technology | BioSpace | May 26 00:18 | |
| baronhk[m] | I hope a Debian 11 Live with Firmware ISO shows up shortly. | May 26 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | stormchaser3000: Ha-ha, good luck waiting for consensus. | May 26 00:19 |
| *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has left #techrights ("Tired") | May 26 00:19 | |
| baronhk[m] | I'm sure that if I used to fork the kernel and run my own modified versions I can figure this out. | May 26 00:19 |
| techrights-bot | "Unified's Portal now includes an integration with PQAI that uses an open-source platform to retrieve prior-art for a given patent." #patent #patents #swpats #fakepatents #unifiedpatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/portal-developer-updates-q1-2021 | May 26 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Q1 2021 Developer Updates — Unified Patents | May 26 00:19 | |
| Sophist_UK | Legally, Christel owned the domain name. Morally, she was holding it in trust for the community. Inbetween is a gray area depending on what promises she made about her role and and whether they were in writing. Then she transferred it to a SPV Ltd co. and sold it to Andrew Lee. I doubt very much that this was morally right. So "rightfully" is a lot harder to determine than legality. | May 26 00:21 |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: firmware? | May 26 00:21 |
| alextee[m] | so basically christel sold the freenode assets to andrew, who then took control of what is legally his through his company. the one who is at fault here is either the freenode staff for complaining about this or christle who sold it in the first place | May 26 00:21 |
| schestowitz | who owned 'freenode'? | May 26 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, the legality's pre-determined as no one is going to court over this. | May 26 00:22 |
| Sophist_UK | I don't see how the freenode staff complaining puts them "at fault". | May 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | however you define it... | May 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | freenode limited? | May 26 00:22 |
| MinceR | 26 011053 <@schestowitz> tomaw and his "posse" (what my source calls it) were canceling pro-RMS people | May 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | freenode.net ? | May 26 00:22 |
| MinceR | is there an article on this? | May 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | May 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | May 26 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | May 26 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | I redacted names | May 26 00:23 |
| MinceR | oh, that's why i couldn't find i | May 26 00:23 |
| MinceR | s,i,it/them, | May 26 00:23 |
| Sophist_UK | XRevan86: No - just because they don't have the money or emotional reserves to go to court doesn't prove it was legal - it just means that the default presumption of legality is not going to be challenged. | May 26 00:23 |
| schestowitz | that was well before the shitstorm | May 26 00:23 |
| schestowitz | if they cannot compete, they use fake morality | May 26 00:23 |
| schestowitz | and then say what they try to replace is "dirty" and "racist" and "unsafe" and "trumpisn" | May 26 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "trumpian | May 26 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: Well, the only room here is whether what Christel did was legal. | May 26 00:24 |
| Sophist_UK | No - that is not the only room. | May 26 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | and we don't even know what exactly she sold | May 26 00:24 |
| alextee[m] | <XRevan86 "and we don't even know what exac"> that's probably the most important missing piece | May 26 00:24 |
| Sophist_UK | But they are not mounting a legal challenge, so it is reasonable to conclude that AL has legal title to the domain name. | May 26 00:24 |
| alextee[m] | to this story | May 26 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | as Freenode didn't exactly have any assets other than the newly created company, a person and some domains. | May 26 00:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net/ | May 26 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Buy a piece of Net nostalgia for $5,000 • The Register | May 26 00:25 | |
| MinceR | even if Christel sold what is claimed she sold, this could have been handled differently | May 26 00:25 |
| Sophist_UK | I have read nothing that talks about whether legal title to the servers, the software that runs on them or the data was held by Freenode Ltd. Just the domain name. | May 26 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I think everyone can agree on that. | May 26 00:25 |
| schestowitz | 13.5 years soon http://techrights.org/2021/02/02/13-years-irc-channels/ | May 26 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 13 Years of Our IRC Channels | Techrights | May 26 00:26 | |
| MinceR | people go around claiming that freenode ltd. owns nothing more than the domain name | May 26 00:26 |
| MinceR | but if that's the case, why didn't the opers just buy a new domain and move to that? | May 26 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: It was all run by volunteers, so they just did what they wanted, I don't think the company had any hold on that. | May 26 00:26 |
| Sophist_UK | I think that you can pick any topic in history ever, and say that things could have been handled differently. | May 26 00:26 |
| alextee[m] | MinceR: the moment you give control of something to someone else you can't really complain if they abuse it | May 26 00:26 |
| alextee[m] | you shouldn't give up that control in the first place | May 26 00:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 26 00:26 |
| alextee[m] | (unless the abuse is illegal, which is not in this case from what I can see) | May 26 00:27 |
| alextee[m] | I don't think andrew is at fault but I moved to libera.chat because I don't want a for-profit entity in control of my communications | May 26 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Imagine if ye have an email server and ye need a new domain name | May 26 00:27 |
| Sophist_UK | Yes - the "staff" were volunteers. | May 26 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ye can practically just start anew. | May 26 00:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: not really | May 26 00:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: they have a bunch of servers provided by sponsors, they allegedly have a staff, they have a website | May 26 00:27 |
| Sophist_UK | And it may well be that they were too close to the coal face and resistant to change etc. | May 26 00:28 |
| MinceR | they have a lot of configuration done which would not need much of a change | May 26 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Servers is a thing… since there were no contracts the sponsors themselves could disagree to whom they donated the servers. | May 26 00:28 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: these people constantly threatened with splitting freenode if the will of their kolkhoz is not done | May 26 00:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 26 00:28 |
| MinceR | yet liberans keep implying they'll easily get them "back" | May 26 00:29 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 26 00:29 |
| Sophist_UK | All I have heard is that Freenode Ltd owned the domain name. I have no idea what other things to do with the IRC network (servers, software, data) were owned by Freenode Ltd or not. | May 26 00:29 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The server stats on netsplit.de look like they do. | May 26 00:29 |
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| MinceR | i don't think it was stated to whom the sponsors donated the servers -- could be to freenode ltd. | May 26 00:29 |
| Sophist_UK | Obviously the domain name is pretty important to running the rest. | May 26 00:29 |
| MinceR | in which case many people lied :> | May 26 00:29 |
| MinceR | the domain name can be replaced | May 26 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: Servers aren't owned, they're donated to "Freenode" without any written contract. | May 26 00:30 |
| Sophist_UK | MinceR: It might have been, or might not. | May 26 00:30 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 26 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: The software is just ran by staff, whatever they want. | May 26 00:30 |
| Sophist_UK | So maybe it was a hostilke takeover after all. Andrew Lee seems to think he owns the servers and the software and the data. | May 26 00:30 |
| Sophist_UK | Or maybe he did legally own them as well. | May 26 00:31 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: what about when they forcibly removed christel? | May 26 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | Sophist_UK: Even if Christel gave him all that in a contract, it's still a grey area if she actually had what she was giving. | May 26 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Sophist_UK: PIA has thousands of servers | May 26 00:31 |
| schestowitz | iirc, freenode uses just about 44 servers | May 26 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: She resigned after no one knows what. | May 26 00:31 |
| Sophist_UK | Who forceably removed Christel? | May 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz | and maybe multi-tenant'ed | May 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Sophist_UK: she resigned | May 26 00:32 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: the ex-staff harrassed her | May 26 00:32 |
| Sophist_UK | schestowitz: Why is that relevant? | May 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz | to avoid the shitstorm | May 26 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | (she doesn't take questions, really doesn't want to be involved in any of this) | May 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Sophist_UK: because server ownership was discussed | May 26 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: This is not actually established. | May 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz | spinning off more servers is something PIA can do fast if needed | May 26 00:32 |
| Sophist_UK | And the relevance of numbers is? | May 26 00:32 |
| alextee[m] | <XRevan86 "(she doesn't take questions, rea"> sounds fishy lol | May 26 00:33 |
| schestowitz | bbiab | May 26 00:33 |
| Sophist_UK | alextee[m]: No - that is just an assumption on your part - perhaps she is simply burned out. | May 26 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: Well, the staff says that she resigned instead of answering questions, so… that. | May 26 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | "burnt out" is an understatement | May 26 00:33 |
| alextee[m] | well she's partly or mostly responsible for what happened IMO so it would be nice to offer some clarity | May 26 00:34 |
| alextee[m] | but I can understand that the situation might be too stressful atm | May 26 00:34 |
| Sophist_UK | My guess is that Christel made a bad judgement call a few years back when she sold the domain name / company (which morally she was holding on behalf of the staff / community) - even though she thought she was doing it for good reasons (to raise money for something appropriate). | May 26 00:34 |
| saint_dogbert | alextee[m]: She is responsible for a bunch of people having a huge hissy fit? | May 26 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | alextee[m]: Not offering clarity triggered this whole situation, so clearly she's not going to now either. | May 26 00:35 |
| Sophist_UK | And I guess she did it without consultating the others. | May 26 00:35 |
| alextee[m] | saint_dogbert: responsible due to being the one selling the freenode "assets" whatever they were | May 26 00:35 |
| Sophist_UK | So they gavce her grief about it. | May 26 00:35 |
| baronhk[m] | I'm always sorry when I check Google Now. | May 26 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: she owned it, why should she consult with non-owners? | May 26 00:35 |
| baronhk[m] | CNN gave us all a first class ticket to the freak show yet again. | May 26 00:35 |
| saint_dogbert | alextee[m]: I still don't see why its a problem if she owned them | May 26 00:35 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Please go and study Ethics101 for the answer to that. | May 26 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | I also don't understand why the logo addition was a big deal if a PIA logo was there before as well, and yet if it were so simple, she would've just said "duh" instead of resigning | May 26 00:36 |
| baronhk[m] | Topless photo of Elliot Page (whoever that is), now a he/they after an "operation". | May 26 00:36 |
| saint_dogbert | i know, i know, its questionable that she owned them | May 26 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: when you sell something, like etc... a computer, do you consult with people who remotely used it a bit? | May 26 00:36 |
| MinceR | 26 013516 < saint_dogbert> alextee[m]: She is responsible for a bunch of people having a huge hissy fit? | May 26 00:36 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Please go and study Ethics101 for the answer to that. | May 26 00:36 |
| alextee[m] | saint_dogbert: well similarly i don't see why andrew taking control of what he (presumably) owns is a problem | May 26 00:36 |
| MinceR | a bunch of people are responsible for that | May 26 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i believe in private ownership | May 26 00:36 |
| MinceR | it could have been managed in a mature way | May 26 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: From a Freenode point of view she was a representative, not an overlord. | May 26 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i strongly oppose collectivism and collective ownership | May 26 00:36 |
| saint_dogbert | alextee[m]: I guess we are clueless then? ;) | May 26 00:36 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: What you effectively just said was that you believe in selfishness and greed. | May 26 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: then so be it | May 26 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i believe in private ownership for real, truthfully | May 26 00:37 |
| Sophist_UK | Yes - I am not going to change your mind on that. | May 26 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | And yet when she resigned and Freenode elected a new representative, an actual owner, Andrew, challenged that saying that he does not recognise that authority. | May 26 00:37 |
| alextee[m] | saint_dogbert: we are missing a lot of information yes | May 26 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i don't necessarily believe in greed though, because if you say "this is mine", you're not expressing that you want more | May 26 00:38 |
| saint_dogbert | alextee[m]: Sure are. And we see this conversation about 10x a day with all kinds of speculation and pretty lite on facts | May 26 00:38 |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation Working for #Microsoft and #GitHub Now • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593 #monopoly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | May 26 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines | May 26 00:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | May 26 00:38 | |
| Sophist_UK | I am not against private ownership where that makes sense, but I believe that humanities greatest achievements are through collective efforts made for the benefit of others. And your single-minded everything-must-be-private pretty much rules out anything of that nature. | May 26 00:39 |
| techrights-bot | #Fedora Podcast Has Returned With The #DestinationLinux Network https://frontpagelinux.com/news/fedora-podcast-has-returned-with-the-destination-linux-network/ | May 26 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frontpagelinux.com | Fedora Podcast Has Returned With The Destination Linux Network - Front Page Linux | May 26 00:39 | |
| XRevan86 | So, either way, what happened to the staff is that their voices were nullified in 2017 and they weren't even told. | May 26 00:39 |
| techrights-bot | "From our origins with Linux to preparing your home LAN for a solar storm, it’s an Ask us Anything special edition!" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145142/and-the-answer-is-linux-unplugged-407/ | May 26 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | And the Answer is… | LINUX Unplugged 407 | Jupiter Broadcasting | May 26 00:40 | |
| XRevan86 | since they no longer were in charge of picking their representative (which they found out after they did) | May 26 00:40 |
| techrights-bot | " #Vimium is a browser extension that provides keyboard-based navigation and control of the web in the spirit of the Vim editor. It helps you navigate the web without touching the mouse. Vimium uses a clever highlighting method to navigate using links." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSdLfN03g-g | May 26 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improve Efficiency In Chrome or Firefox With Vimium - YouTube | May 26 00:40 | |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i wouldn't ban worker-owned collectives, but how does that change that freenode was in fact owned by someone? | May 26 00:41 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: there's a difference here... if you're saying that even though she owned freenode, it shouldn't be hers, then you have to be against private ownership | May 26 00:41 |
| techrights-bot | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #OpenIndiana 2021.04 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hai2PZGrC0I #oracle #solaris #freesw | May 26 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenIndiana 2021.04 overview | Community-driven illumos Distribution. - YouTube | May 26 00:42 | |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i'm not insisting on the right to buy libera | May 26 00:42 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: nor OFTC | May 26 00:42 |
| CrystalMath | but it seems to me you're insisting that freenode couldn't have been sold | May 26 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye are missing the problem of quasi-ownership. | May 26 00:43 |
| techrights-bot | Has Brodie Robertson been paid to promote a #microsoft #windows laptop? Link omitted, but I took note of that in posts earlier this month, e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/05/06/marketing-is-not-journalism/ | May 26 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Disregard Web Sites That Call Themselves ‘News’ and Instead Promote Proprietary Software for Companies Like Microsoft | Techrights | May 26 00:43 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: we already had this issue in 2006 | May 26 00:44 |
| techrights-bot | REMINDER: #FrameworkLaptop is a #MICROSOFT #WINDOWS laptop and the only explanation I have for many plugs I see for it in "Linux" sites is that they're paid/bribed to do so. Also, it's massively overpriced. | May 26 00:44 |
| schestowitz | control and ownership are not the same | May 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | related, but different | May 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | afaik, christel was in control | May 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | who owned it? 'up in the air.....' | May 26 00:46 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, there are IRCs owned by non-profits, like OFTC | May 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | it's not even clear who 'owns' techrights | May 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | the infra is kaniini | May 26 00:47 |
| CrystalMath | freenode was never like that though | May 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and two people now have dns credentials | May 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and it's stranger when you ask who 'owns' this channel | May 26 00:48 |
| schestowitz | I suppose rasengan is in control of the domain it is in | May 26 00:49 |
| CrystalMath | tbh, who owns "techrights" = schestowitz | May 26 00:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR and I are the main ops with powers at channel admin level | May 26 00:49 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Please go and study Ethics101 for the answer to that. | May 26 00:49 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: ethics are not absolute | May 26 00:50 |
| schestowitz | techrights is immaterial | May 26 00:50 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: your ethical ideas are full of well-known holes, unfortunately | May 26 00:50 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i don't see how that matters or changes anything | May 26 00:51 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i just said it's highly relative | May 26 00:51 |
| CrystalMath | we don't have to agree, at all | May 26 00:51 |
| techrights-bot | Linux 5.14 To Allow Hot Unplug Of #AMD #Radeon GPUs - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-AMDGPU-Hot-Unplug ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | May 26 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 To Allow Hot Unplug Of AMD Radeon GPUs - Phoronix | May 26 00:51 | |
| CrystalMath | there's no code of ethics that is universal | May 26 00:51 |
| CrystalMath | everything you say is good, i can say it's bad | May 26 00:51 |
| CrystalMath | everything you say is bad, i can say it's good | May 26 00:52 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: You clearly have no clue about ethics. Things are not black and white. Things can be held in trust - and that can be enforced legally. But yes - ethics are not absolute - and that is exactly the point. You seem to think that everything should be absolute, and that is why you appear to know nothing about ethics. | May 26 00:52 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Please go and study Ethics101 for the answer to that. | May 26 00:52 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: again, there's no need for anyone to "study" ethics, as it's not absolute | May 26 00:53 |
| CrystalMath | i only used extremes as a way to tell you that everything is relative | May 26 00:53 |
| Sophist_UK | Whilst there are grey areas, there are accepted definitions of things that are good and that are bad - and a lot of grey areas inbetween. | May 26 00:53 |
| techrights-bot | Might it be powered by #debian #gnu #linux just like #steamOS (if that exists at all)? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/hints-appear-of-valve-making-a-handheld-steam-steampal-neptune-console | May 26 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hints appear of Valve making a handheld Steam "SteamPal" Neptune console | GamingOnLinux | May 26 00:53 | |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: there doesn't have to be a universal code of ethics for people to be making errors in ethical thought | May 26 00:53 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: there is no error | May 26 00:54 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: like, you seem to think there's some kind of goal or life or something, there isn't | May 26 00:54 |
| samiamsam | you're mistaken | May 26 00:54 |
| CrystalMath | that is literally impossible :) | May 26 00:54 |
| samiamsam | nope | May 26 00:54 |
| CrystalMath | i can say that it's for the best if humans are eradicated, and even defend that | May 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | ethics are subjective | May 26 00:54 |
| samiamsam | i don't know where you're getting that from, but it isn't from the words i've typed | May 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | not objective ever | May 26 00:54 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: absolutely | May 26 00:54 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Everything you say demonstrates a lack of understanding of what ethics are. Go study them before you make statements about them which just dispolay your ignorance. | May 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | many say "protect the animals" | May 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | they also eat them | May 26 00:54 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: ethics are relative | May 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | and it is generally not considered "unethical" to kill and eat non-human animals | May 26 00:55 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: i did not say that ALL things can be erroneous, only that SOME things can. this is another logical error on your part | May 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | vegans might have firmer ground to stand on | May 26 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: literally there doesn't even have to be any logic to ethics, you made up that rule | May 26 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | i don't have to accept that rule | May 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "murder is wrong" | May 26 00:55 |
| samiamsam | you do though | May 26 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: what tells you that i have to use logic in ethics? | May 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "let's talk about it over some KFC" | May 26 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: you're calling on some kind of absolute thing | May 26 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | what is it? some kind of god? | May 26 00:56 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: any falsehood implies every propostion | May 26 00:56 |
| Sophist_UK | For example, it is generally accepted as ethically bad to kill another human without legal authority and when it is unnecessary and when they don't want to be killed. | May 26 00:56 |
| samiamsam | proposition* | May 26 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: "generally accepted" means nothing about WHY that is so | May 26 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | the majority of the people can definitely be wrong | May 26 00:56 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: if your ethical theory says that something is wrong, and that it is right at the same time, and that right and wrong are distinct separate sets, then your ethical theory is erroneous because it can prove that 2+2=5 | May 26 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | for example, that's not my ethics, i believe that murder is always wrong | May 26 00:56 |
| Sophist_UK | So you believe it is OK to go around killing someone because you fancy it? | May 26 00:57 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: my own code of ethics excludes the possibility of legal authority to murder | May 26 00:57 |
| Sophist_UK | Ok - you have made it clear that is not the case. | May 26 00:57 |
| Sophist_UK | So state / court sanctioned murder as a punishment for e.g. genocide is wrong? | May 26 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | correct | May 26 00:58 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: ethical theories aren't ever pure opinion, and can't usually be divorced from facts nor logic | May 26 00:58 |
| Sophist_UK | Killing someone who is about to blow up a stadium full of inocent people to stop them doing so is wrong? | May 26 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: then maybe ethical theories are pointless and we should | May 26 00:58 |
| techrights-bot | https://www.storagereview.com/review/dell-optiplex-7090-ultra-review | May 26 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell OptiPlex 7090 Ultra Review | StorageReview.com | May 26 00:58 | |
| CrystalMath | just stick to opinions | May 26 00:58 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Do you realise what you just said? | May 26 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i wouldn't pull the lever in the trolley problem, either | May 26 00:59 |
| samiamsam | when i say ethical theories, i mean the kinds of things that you were saying here | May 26 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i am a hardline pacifist, i wouldn't kill someone who's about to kill me | May 26 00:59 |
| samiamsam | for example, libertarian propertarian absolutism | May 26 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: nor someone who's about to kill everyone, nor end the universe | May 26 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | i don't even believe that ending the universe would be necessarily 100% wrong | May 26 01:00 |
| techrights-bot | "We are proud to announce that #Ubuntu 21.04 includes support for the #GPIO pins on the Raspberry Pi. This has been a long time coming. We know. With support for the camera modules and Bluetooth added last year GPIO was the obvious next step." https://ubuntu.com//blog/raspberry-pi-gpio-support-in-ubuntu | May 26 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi GPIO support in Ubuntu | Ubuntu | May 26 01:00 | |
| CrystalMath | it would end all suffering for example | May 26 01:00 |
| Sophist_UK | You just said that ethical theories (and hence ethics) are pointless - which is equivalent to saying that selfishness and greed are what we should live our lives by because that is what is left without Ethics. | May 26 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: hmm, i'm not sure that follows | May 26 01:00 |
| techrights-bot | Steinar H. Gunderson: LZ24 http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-05-24-11-51_lz24.html #freesw #debian | May 26 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson | May 26 01:01 | |
| samiamsam | the idea that we SHOULD be selifsh and greedy is still an ethical theory | May 26 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | right | May 26 01:01 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: So you believe that "I think that the universe is on average bad, so let's end the universe to end the bad bits" is ok i.e. ethical? | May 26 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | that would be another "should" | May 26 01:01 |
| samiamsam | i think CrystalMath is saying we shouldn't even talk about such things? but you just were | May 26 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | i'm saying there is absolutely no point to life | May 26 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | no purpose whatsoever | May 26 01:02 |
| techrights-bot | IBM COBOL for Linux on x86 1.1 is now generally available https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/announcing-ibm-cobol-for-linux-on-x86/ now you can MASTER the #programming language on your platform of choice. #gnu #linux | May 26 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | IBM COBOL for Linux on x86 1.1 is now generally available – IBM Developer | May 26 01:02 | |
| samiamsam | well i agree, purposes are held by living beings, there is no purpose to life itself and the purpose of the parents in making the child do not ethically bind the child | May 26 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | if you cannot find conclusive proof of an objective purpose to life, or the existence of the universe, it does not exist | May 26 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | i believe that purposes are the illusions of living beings, as is consciousness | May 26 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | Richard Dawkins explains purpose very well | May 26 01:03 |
| samiamsam | ethics doesn't require universality of purpose, ethics assumes a social context of cooperation as opposed to isolation or war | May 26 01:03 |
| schestowitz | 'purpose' | May 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | as if life exists for some "goal" | May 26 01:04 |
| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: my own ethical standards are that your life is yours to do what you want with, so if you feel that there is no point to your life then it would not clash with my ethics if you were to decide to stop using the worlds limited resources any further and instead donate the resources tied up in your cells back to the world. | May 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | COVID has a 'purpose' too | May 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | I guess | May 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | like spreading itself | May 26 01:04 |
| samiamsam | ASSUMING we're trying to get along, what decisions do we make about what we owe the other person -- that's ethics | May 26 01:04 |
| Sophist_UK | samiamsam: +1000000 | May 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | every person is controlled by another | May 26 01:05 |
| schestowitz | so terms like slavery are broader than we're meant to acknowledge | May 26 01:05 |
| Sophist_UK | schestowitz: I believe that we are fully in control of everything. | May 26 01:05 |
| schestowitz | but race-baiting corporations want us to think of it only in ethnic terms | May 26 01:05 |
| schestowitz | not like bosses who enslave employees | May 26 01:05 |
| Sophist_UK | schestowitz: I believe that we are fully in control of ourselves. | May 26 01:05 |
| schestowitz | corporations that use LITERAL sweatshops where people swear and jump from windows | May 26 01:06 |
| schestowitz | (sweat | May 26 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Sophist_UK: if you have a job, and the job is not yours fully, then that is false | May 26 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: my ethical standards are that people should split the management of these collective resources amongst themselves, to the individual level | May 26 01:06 |
| schestowitz | I too have to occasionally do things I prefer not to | May 26 01:06 |
| schestowitz | the other day I needed to log in to clownflare | May 26 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: so that means, that things should have owners - people who decide the entire fate of this thing, as opposed to that thing | May 26 01:07 |
| samiamsam | except at its most brutal extremes, human power does not work by controlling people. human power works by manipulating people's INTERESTS so that they make the choice to comply out of self-interest | May 26 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | that's the important part of ownership, decisions | May 26 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: if i acquire a strip of land and build a giant stupid sphere statue, i exercised this properly | May 26 01:07 |
| techrights-bot | Feeling Overwhelmed With Vim? Try Micro Text Editor Instead • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151594 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feeling Overwhelmed With Vim? Try Micro Text Editor Instead | Tux Machines | May 26 01:07 | |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: but it seems that your ethical standards believe that we should all put things we have to good use - i disagree completely as i don't believe in the possibility of good use | May 26 01:07 |
| samiamsam | no one will force you to do X or Y, but they will make it so that you will receive $500 if you do X and -$500 if you do Y. | May 26 01:08 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i believe that building a giant pointless statue is just as good as building a farm that creates food | May 26 01:08 |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: because nothing makes sense and nothing really matters | May 26 01:08 |
| techrights-bot | This low-cost motion control rig helps capture high-quality shots | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/05/25/this-low-cost-motion-control-rig-helps-capture-high-quality-shots/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/26/#latest | May 26 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This low-cost motion control rig helps capture high-quality shots | Arduino Blog | May 26 01:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 26 01:08 | |
| CrystalMath | Sophist_UK: i think that's the fundamental difference here | May 26 01:09 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: i don't want to be rude here, i really don't, but i can see that you are making muddy thinking errors | May 26 01:09 |
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| Sophist_UK | CrystalMath: Words cannot express how sad I feel at your lack of empathy and (if I take your words at face value) sociopathic character. | May 26 01:09 |
| techrights-bot | New #google #spyware release: The #Chrome team is delighted to announce the promotion of Chrome 91 to the stable channel for Windows, Mac and Linux. This will roll out over the coming days/weeks." https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2021/05/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_25.html | May 26 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop | May 26 01:09 | |
| Sophist_UK | Anyway, time for bed here. TTFN | May 26 01:09 |
| *Sophist_UK (Sophist-UK@72.82.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) has left #techrights | May 26 01:09 | |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: like, talking about "as good" doesn't make sense if you don't have a single definition of "good". what you're saying is that no definition of good is universal. that's true. but you're going off in the wrong direction from there | May 26 01:10 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: actually i believe that the idea that life is pointless is an objective truth | May 26 01:11 |
| samiamsam | sure | May 26 01:11 |
| techrights-bot | "Not a month later, travel budgets in many corporations had been frozen. The last in person event that I went to was FOSS Backstage - incapable of imagining just for how long this would be the last in person event I would go to." http://blog.isabel-drost-fromm.de/posts/when-it-takes-a-pandemic.html | May 26 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blog.isabel-drost-fromm.de/posts/when-it-takes-a-pandemic.html ) | May 26 01:11 | |
| samiamsam | i agree | May 26 01:11 |
| samiamsam | like i already said | May 26 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | therefore ascribing any point to life, any "should", is actually factually incorrect | May 26 01:11 |
| samiamsam | it's just you're drawing conclusions from that, which are wrong | May 26 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | why shouldn't i draw conclusions from a true statement? | May 26 01:12 |
| samiamsam | no, it's not, because you need to interpret it relative to a context | May 26 01:12 |
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| samiamsam | i didn't say you shouldn't draw conclusions | May 26 01:12 |
| samiamsam | i said you drawing the WRONG conclusions | May 26 01:12 |
| *stormchaser3000 is guessing that he found himself in the middle of the same argument from earlier | May 26 01:12 | |
| CrystalMath | i don't see that they're wrong | May 26 01:13 |
| samiamsam | i know | May 26 01:13 |
| CrystalMath | you referred to purposes as making sense within a context, but to me these contexts themselves are detached from reality | May 26 01:13 |
| CrystalMath | the reality that one should try to remain attached to has no purpose, therefore the proper word for purposes acribed to things by us are illusions | May 26 01:14 |
| *stormchaser3000 prepares his popcorn | May 26 01:14 | |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: you're a computer programmer right? | May 26 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: no | May 26 01:14 |
| samiamsam | oh | May 26 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | not professionally, at least | May 26 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | i do write code thouguh | May 26 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | *though | May 26 01:14 |
| samiamsam | oh ok | May 26 01:14 |
| samiamsam | you know about data types like boolean, integer, float, etc.? | May 26 01:15 |
| CrystalMath | i've met many people under illusions - that they need to stay alive, that they need to have children, that they need to run proprietary software; but these are all illusions | May 26 01:15 |
| CrystalMath | really, one doesn't need to do any of that | May 26 01:15 |
| alextee[m] | >REMINDER: #FrameworkLaptop is a #MICROSOFT #WINDOWS laptop and the only explanation I have for many plugs I see for it in "Linux" sites is that they're paid/bribed to do so. Also, it's massively overpriced. | May 26 01:16 |
| alextee[m] | is there an article on this? | May 26 01:16 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▃▃▅▅▃▃▄▄▆▅▂▁▄▄█▃▆▅▄▅▅▅▁▅▄▄▃▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 25.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▁▁▂▁▃▁▂▂▁█▂▂█▁▃▃▂▂█▂█▂▁▃▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 56.28▕ swarm size (avg): 230.52 ⟲ | May 26 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: types, sure | May 26 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: what about them? | May 26 01:16 |
| alextee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZb1sN-eZf0 | May 26 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Framework Laptop: Right To Repair Dream Device - YouTube | May 26 01:17 | |
| samiamsam | you can represent a logical proposition (such as "x is good") as a propositional function returning boolean (isGood :: X -> Bool) | May 26 01:18 |
| stormchaser3000 | are we talking about haskell here? | May 26 01:19 |
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| samiamsam | i'm just using haskell as notation | May 26 01:19 |
| stormchaser3000 | ah ok | May 26 01:19 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: things like good and bad and so on exist as entire programs within the computer of the human brain. in principle the human brain might be programmed any which way, but in practice it is running _similar_ software everywhere | May 26 01:20 |
| samiamsam | so there is a kind of phantom universality of purpose that almost everyone can kind of "feel" deriving from the fact that we're separate species | May 26 01:22 |
| samiamsam | *same species | May 26 01:22 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: then why do we disagree about that? :P | May 26 01:23 |
| samiamsam | i don't think we disagree about that | May 26 01:24 |
| CrystalMath | truly don't see it, i believe that we are all very unique individuals | May 26 01:24 |
| CrystalMath | every opinion i've heard is unique | May 26 01:25 |
| samiamsam | people only talk about their differences, not their universalities | May 26 01:25 |
| CrystalMath | sure there's a lot of overlaps but really, there's nothing that we *all* agree on | May 26 01:25 |
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| samiamsam | but what i'm leading to is to say that it's a type error to talk about whether some one thing is "as good" as another when you're talking about two distinct functions | May 26 01:25 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY | May 26 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life Of Brian (1979) - clip: "You're all individuals" - YouTube | May 26 01:26 | |
| CrystalMath | what i was equating all those things to is 0 | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | you're equating things that aren't equal | May 26 01:26 |
| CrystalMath | how good/bad/important is it to do X? 0 | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | because purpose really does exist, physically | May 26 01:26 |
| CrystalMath | prove it | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | it's part of the human brain | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | it's easy to prove | May 26 01:26 |
| CrystalMath | show me someone other than people who cares | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | i didn't say that nonhumans have purpose | May 26 01:26 |
| CrystalMath | what is the difference? | May 26 01:26 |
| samiamsam | but, actually, many species do (but not all) | May 26 01:27 |
| CrystalMath | humans are just animals | May 26 01:27 |
| CrystalMath | there's really no difference there, tbh | May 26 01:27 |
| CrystalMath | humans are made of the same stuff the ground is | May 26 01:27 |
| samiamsam | some animals are too simple to have purposes | May 26 01:27 |
| samiamsam | it doesn't matter what you make it out of | May 26 01:27 |
| samiamsam | it matters what it does | May 26 01:27 |
| CrystalMath | i know that i don't have a purpose | May 26 01:27 |
| CrystalMath | i see purpose as an illusion | May 26 01:28 |
| samiamsam | the brain is a network of switches, and so is a computer. they work totally different but can perform many of the same computations | May 26 01:28 |
| CrystalMath | a popular illusion, but an illusion nonetheless | May 26 01:28 |
| baronhk[m] | Apparently, the cops in New Hampshire have an arrest warrant for Marilyn Manson. | May 26 01:28 |
| schestowitz | :-0 | May 26 01:28 |
| schestowitz | what for? | May 26 01:28 |
| samiamsam | baronhk[m]: for sex stuff? | May 26 01:28 |
| schestowitz | what charges? | May 26 01:28 |
| baronhk[m] | He has an opportunity most people don't. Ignore the warrant, don't go back to that state, and live fine. | May 26 01:28 |
| schestowitz | manson has a sex? | May 26 01:28 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 01:28 |
| baronhk[m] | It's misdemeanor assault, so as long as he stays out of the state, I mean he could be detained for a while, but they aren't going to pay to have him extradited. | May 26 01:29 |
| samiamsam | baronhk[m]: i think it's probably the other way around. that would work for most people. for him with celebrity, they may make an exception and extradite. | May 26 01:29 |
| schestowitz | well, michael jackson spent not a moment in jail | May 26 01:29 |
| baronhk[m] | It's what an ex I spoke with said he would have done had he been in my situation in 2019. | May 26 01:29 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: honestly i believe that what we refer to as our consciousness is also an illusion | May 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | bill gates is 'phisnthropist' | May 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | went to visit jeffy in jail | May 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | to help him become a 'phisnthropist' too | May 26 01:30 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: well, purpose isn't an illusion, that's another type error | May 26 01:30 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: purpose does not exist | May 26 01:30 |
| baronhk[m] | "They're not going to pay to extradite you to Illinois over a misdemeanor. But then it just goes on and on forever and you can't rent an apartment or find even a bad job without clearing it up. | May 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | it's a motivational morale thing | May 26 01:30 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i recommend that you watch that Richard Dawkins lecture | May 26 01:30 |
| schestowitz | 'purpose' | May 26 01:30 |
| baronhk[m] | Manson has a lot of money, so he can just live in some other state and laugh. | May 26 01:30 |
| baronhk[m] | I would. | May 26 01:30 |
| samiamsam | of all people richard dawkins would acknowledge the biological existence of purpose | May 26 01:31 |
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| CrystalMath | samiamsam: he talked a lot about a feature of the brain that creates an illusion of purpose, one that is useful for survival, but not real | May 26 01:31 |
| baronhk[m] | It's another luxury of being rich. You get in trouble, just flee the jurisdiction. Fuck 'em. You don't need a 9-5 or a crummy apartment. | May 26 01:31 |
| samiamsam | baronhk[m]: except the governor can literally just decide to extradite for any reason they like | May 26 01:31 |
| baronhk[m] | They typically don't unless the state that wants them agrees to pay for it. | May 26 01:32 |
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| baronhk[m] | Unless it's a felony. | May 26 01:32 |
| techrights-bot | "Gaming on the #Librem 14 is respectful, ad-free, and covers most game classes at no upfront or monthly cost, all while protecting your data." https://puri.sm/posts/gaming-on-the-librem-14/ #freesw #games | May 26 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Gaming on the Librem 14 – Purism | May 26 01:32 | |
| samiamsam | i know they normally don't do it. but it's a celebrity, not a normal case | May 26 01:32 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: the point is, our brains are hardwired to believe in purpose only because any other brain would have died out, but to me that says nothing; i don't see anything wrong with dying out, either | May 26 01:33 |
| baronhk[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/marilyn-manson-wanted-in-new-hampshire-on-assault-warrant/ar-AAKnwoc?li=BBnbcA1 | May 26 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Marilyn Manson wanted in New Hampshire on assault warrant | May 26 01:33 | |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: to believe the results of evolution is to hold onto the assumption that being alive is good - but i don't buy it | May 26 01:33 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i'm not buying that life is better than death | May 26 01:33 |
| baronhk[m] | The sex assault would be easier to clear up. They just want money. Settle it out of court. | May 26 01:33 |
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| CrystalMath | samiamsam: even though i believe that it's always wrong to take a life, i believe it's always okay to commit suicide | May 26 01:34 |
| techrights-bot | #twitter #surveillance https://www.maketecheasier.com/get-started-with-twitter-spaces/ if you use Twitter for PERSONAL comms, congrats. Darwin award for you... and maybe tandoori oven https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-34474798 | May 26 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Everything You Need to Know to Get Started Using Twitter Spaces - Make Tech Easier | May 26 01:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - BBC News | May 26 01:34 | |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: i get what you're saying but it's got type errors. the capacity for purpose is like the capacity to pick up a branch with your hand. a feature some organisms have and some don't | May 26 01:34 |
| baronhk[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chicago-alderman-wants-to-cap-ride-share-surge-pricing/ar-AAKnCGX?ocid=hplocalnews | May 26 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Chicago alderman wants to cap ride-share surge pricing | May 26 01:34 | |
| baronhk[m] | Chicago wants to get rid of surge pricing. Why not? Makes it easier for them to raise tax again. | May 26 01:35 |
| schestowitz | anyway, back to tech | May 26 01:35 |
| schestowitz | you interjected sex into the channel again | May 26 01:35 |
| baronhk[m] | Either that or they don't understand how markets work. They're Democrats, so.... | May 26 01:35 |
| samiamsam | CrystalMath: it's a biological feature of the human species, NOT an 'illusion', even if part of how that feature works involves humans inventing illusory explanations for things | May 26 01:36 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: but you assume that it's a feature, why? | May 26 01:36 |
| CrystalMath | i can just as well see it as a bug | May 26 01:36 |
| samiamsam | i don't mean feature as oppose to bug i just mean aspect or element | May 26 01:36 |
| baronhk[m] | If 10 people need a ride and there are 20 Ubers sitting around, the price will be lower than if 20 people need a ride and there are 10 Ubers. | May 26 01:36 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: yes but that was just created by evolution for predictable reasons | May 26 01:36 |
| baronhk[m] | Please tell me that you cannot be this dumb and in office. | May 26 01:36 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: evolution merely optimises for life | May 26 01:36 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: but why is that goal itself important? | May 26 01:37 |
| techrights-bot | #mozilla : "Your personal data is yours".... HAHAHAHAHA!! Oops, sorry... HAHAHA... seriously, Mozilla, who do you think you're kidding? #firefox no longer protects privacy and it helps amass data by various parties including #google https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/05/25/updates-to-firefoxs-breach-alert-policy/ | May 26 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Updates to Firefox's Breach Alert Policy - Mozilla Security Blog | May 26 01:37 | |
| samiamsam | again, importance exists within the evolved brain. it is a type error to talk about importance outside the domain of "things the brain ranks in importance" | May 26 01:37 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i wouldn't hold any feature of the human brain to be important | May 26 01:37 |
| baronhk[m] | <CrystalMath "samiamsam: evolution merely opti"> True, at this rate there will eventually be a lot of men sitting around doing nothing living on their wife, smoking pot and playing XBOX because women want babies bad enough to marry THESE people. | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: the brain is wrong, its view of reality is quite broken | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: but some people are able to think beyond it | May 26 01:38 |
| baronhk[m] | Then their defective unemployed genes spread and we go further down the rabbit hole. | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | and reach the point when they see how incredibly limited the brain is | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | that's when you truly open your eyes | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | and realize - we're worthless beings | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | everything is worthless | May 26 01:38 |
| CrystalMath | nothing really matters | May 26 01:38 |
| samiamsam | i don't know, brother | May 26 01:38 |
| techrights-bot | Maybe this is why #microsoft and #qualcomm have been 'spamming' sites all day long (on Tuesday) http://linuxgizmos.com/arm-announces-first-armv9-cores-including-powerhouse-cortex-x2/ | May 26 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/arm-announces-first-armv9-cores-including-powerhouse-cortex-x2/ ) | May 26 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | psydroid: ^ | May 26 01:39 |
| baronhk[m] | This is the sort of shit that happens. My cousins both married men like this. | May 26 01:39 |
| samiamsam | i suspect you have some emotional reasons you aren't revealing | May 26 01:39 |
| CrystalMath | samiamsam: i've kinda had this sort of idea since i was born, somehow | May 26 01:39 |
| baronhk[m] | One made the evening news because he stole money out of her purse to go to the liquor store after he promised he'd quit drinking, and it got robbed while he was in there, and he couldn't get out without being on camera. | May 26 01:40 |
| CrystalMath | but i guess i see all of my exploration in thoughts as a part of a road to here | May 26 01:40 |
| CrystalMath | that could be just because i'm here | May 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: you are nearly 30 | May 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | you know what THAT means.. | May 26 01:40 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: approaching lastday? | May 26 01:40 |
| baronhk[m] | Meanwhile, I won't reproduce at all. | May 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | doomsday clock | May 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: raise a cat | May 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | they don't buy or litter much | May 26 01:41 |
| baronhk[m] | Why would I want to, for starters? So that I can be even poorer than I am now and have a 50/50 chance of spreading bipolar disorder down the line? | May 26 01:41 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: ever watched Logan's Run? | May 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | no | May 26 01:41 |
| baronhk[m] | At least I'm decent enough to not go there. | May 26 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I heard of it | May 26 01:41 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: that's the movie where people die when they reach 30 in a ritual | May 26 01:42 |
| samiamsam | i have two kids. and i'm going to take one outside for a few minutes right now. later folks. | May 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | "In Time" is OK | May 26 01:42 |
| CrystalMath | that time is called "lastday" | May 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | but different story line | May 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | people buying time to live | May 26 01:42 |
| CrystalMath | they're called up and get wiped out | May 26 01:42 |
| samiamsam | "In Time" was pretty neat, better than you might expect | May 26 01:42 |
| samiamsam | bye | May 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time | May 26 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | In Time - Wikipedia | May 26 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | I watched it a few years ago | May 26 01:43 |
| baronhk[m] | My dad was even more of a freak than being in every cult in Indiana and Scientology. | May 26 01:43 |
| schestowitz | the concept is interesting | May 26 01:43 |
| schestowitz | with organ farming and all not too unthinkable and far-fetched either | May 26 01:43 |
| baronhk[m] | He had what could pretty much only be described as a dungeon of pornography. Stuff he probably spent tens of thousands of dollars on. | May 26 01:43 |
| baronhk[m] | He put it in bookshelves, in filing cabinets. Everywhere. | May 26 01:44 |
| baronhk[m] | One day I found some when I was about 5, and I got the belt for looking at stuff he left all around the house. | May 26 01:44 |
| schestowitz | at 5? | May 26 01:44 |
| baronhk[m] | Yep. | May 26 01:44 |
| schestowitz | belt? | May 26 01:44 |
| schestowitz | wow | May 26 01:44 |
| schestowitz | harsh | May 26 01:44 |
| baronhk[m] | He's meaner than hell. | May 26 01:45 |
| schestowitz | does he need a belt to hurt a little kid? | May 26 01:45 |
| schestowitz | many people find their parents' 'stash' sooner or later | May 26 01:45 |
| baronhk[m] | Well, then whenever mom is angry at me she calls me by his name. | May 26 01:45 |
| schestowitz | either propr of literature or tapes | May 26 01:45 |
| baronhk[m] | Blames me for all of her fuck-ups. | May 26 01:45 |
| schestowitz | props | May 26 01:45 |
| baronhk[m] | Has Mandy calling me Carl too. | May 26 01:45 |
| schestowitz | lol | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | he'll pray for you | May 26 01:46 |
| baronhk[m] | He knows it makes my blood boil, so he says Carl whenever he's mad. | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | test: [[In Time]] | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | test: [In Time] | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | test: [InTime] | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... freenode could handle this before | May 26 01:46 |
| schestowitz | test: [Castle] | May 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz | test: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Castle | May 26 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Castle - Wikipedia | May 26 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | May 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz | still works | May 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz | double [[ and ]] | May 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz | aight, lads. time for Daily Links | May 26 01:48 |
| schestowitz | cutoff 2:30 when the bulletin gets generated for the day | May 26 01:48 |
| baronhk[m] | Well, anyone who knows me knows I don't spend $20 on a pair of shoes more often than every few years. | May 26 01:48 |
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| baronhk[m] | Much less a $20,000 stash of porn. (In 1990 dollars.) | May 26 01:48 |
| baronhk[m] | The self-esteem movement, Carlin was right. It churned out a lot of really bad folks. | May 26 01:49 |
| baronhk[m] | By its nature, it encourages people to look to external sources of self-validation and nothing in our society encourages frugality or any other sort of wisdom or long term thinking for that matter. | May 26 01:50 |
| techrights-bot | #Debian : FAIme, LZ4, and EasyOS Latest • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151595 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: FAIme, LZ4, and EasyOS Latest | Tux Machines | May 26 01:50 | |
| baronhk[m] | FUCKED | May 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | hi, Ariadne | May 26 01:50 |
| CrystalMath | hi Ariadne, i'm glad you're back on #techrights | May 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: that sounds like chronic addiction | May 26 01:51 |
| schestowitz | for a 'stash' | May 26 01:51 |
| techrights-bot | #Arduino and #Hardware for (Mostly) GNU/Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151596 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino and Hardware for (Mostly) GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | May 26 01:53 | |
| baronhk[m] | <schestowitz "Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: that s"> Psychology is not convinced porn addiction is a thing but they must not have met Carl. | May 26 01:54 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm calling its "health" product after a Nazi (and later has the audacity to say the #freesw community is insensitive) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b148I3m#replies see http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | May 26 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WATSON HEALTH - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | May 26 01:54 | |
| techrights-bot | #Games : #SteamPal Rumours, CSGO, and Gaming on the Librem 14 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151597 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamPal Rumours, CSGO, and Gaming on the Librem 14 | Tux Machines | May 26 01:57 | |
| baronhk[m] | schestowitz Mandy was showing me a video of a nice modern shopping mall in Manila. | May 26 01:58 |
| baronhk[m] | I'm guessing that's the part we're _supposed_ to see? | May 26 01:59 |
| schestowitz | there are several manilas | May 26 01:59 |
| schestowitz | he comes from tondo | May 26 01:59 |
| schestowitz | it's where some people flock from villages thinking that proximity to wealth will in its own right beget opportunity | May 26 01:59 |
| schestowitz | so they live in slums and stuff and just stay in some sinking city | May 26 02:00 |
| baronhk[m] | I don't know if or when we can renew his passport. Their government says only in LA can you do that right now. | May 26 02:00 |
| schestowitz | better than "smokey mountain" | May 26 02:00 |
| schestowitz | landfill as a 'home' | May 26 02:00 |
| baronhk[m] | So he may become a US citizen before we ever get around to it. | May 26 02:00 |
| techrights-bot | "ROXANNE (Real time network, text, and speaker analytics for combating organized crime) is an EU funded collaborative research and innovation project, aiming to unmask criminal networks and their members as well as to reveal the true identity of perpetrators" https://roxanne-euproject.org/ | May 26 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-roxanne-euproject.org | ROXANNE | May 26 02:02 | |
| techrights-bot | Sen. Ron Johnson Doesn’t Care If Your Wages Don’t Cover Childcare. ‘The Marketplace’ Has Spoken https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ron-johnson-wages-childcare-1173533/ | May 26 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Ron Johnson Doesn't Care If Your Wages Don't Cover Childcare - Rolling Stone | May 26 02:02 | |
| techrights-bot | #gopkkk 'populism' https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republican-governors-federal-unemployment-benefits-1173976/ | May 26 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | GOP Governors Are Opting States Out of Federal Unemployment Benefits - Rolling Stone | May 26 02:03 | |
| baronhk[m] | Now they spew money at people with kids. | May 26 02:03 |
| baronhk[m] | Causing hyperinflation and misery for us. | May 26 02:03 |
| *lavendereyes (~lavendere@gateway/tor-sasl/lavendereyes) has joined #techrights | May 26 02:03 | |
| techrights-bot | "Daniel Ellsberg is challenging the constitutionality of the Espionage Act—openly breaking the law to expose an insane Pentagon plan to use pre-emptive nuclear strikes on mainland China in a Taiwan conflict" https://social.jesuislibre.net/@snowden/106281940040928719 | May 26 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Edward Snowden [bot] : "Daniel Ellsberg is challenging the constitutional…" - social.jesuislibre.net | May 26 02:03 | |
| alextee | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTiAWZ1YfzI | May 26 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-THEY HAVE PLAYED US PROGRAMMERS FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS - YouTube | May 26 02:04 | |
| baronhk[m] | I am with the Republicans on this. Bring back the job search or no bennies. | May 26 02:04 |
| techrights-bot | "The #Biden administration's (carefully worded) support for a #WTO IP waiver on vaccines may not be the full-throated support the issue warrants, but it was still a complete reversal of decades of subservience to #BigPharma " https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106274109373042297 | May 26 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "The Biden administration's (carefully worded) sup…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré | May 26 02:04 | |
| baronhk[m] | It certainly doesn't hurt to make people drop in three applications somewhere each week. | May 26 02:05 |
| techrights-bot | #curl founder: "please consider donating some of your valuable time to help us improve!" https://mastodon.social/@bagder/106288679482124687 #deleyegithub #proprietarySoftware #microsoft | May 26 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Daniel Stenberg: "The curl user survey 2021 https://daniel.haxx.se/…" - Mastodon | May 26 02:05 | |
| baronhk[m] | The worst thing that happens is they don't get hired and they get another unemployment check. | May 26 02:05 |
| techrights-bot | "The #Belarus plane hijack is a small reminder why it's generally not a good idea to let governments know who is going to where." https://mastodon.infra.de/@galaxis/106285985254850170 They wrongly thought @snowden flew with #bolivia pres. Grounded a plan forcibly. | May 26 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.infra.de | Alexander Bochmann: "The Belarus plane hijack is a small reminder why …" - INFRa Mastodon | May 26 02:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #eurobsdcon #bsd #unix https://mastodon.social/@pitrh/106292106797959098 | May 26 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Peter N. M. Hansteen: "If you're quite quick about it, you can make the …" - Mastodon | May 26 02:07 | |
| techrights-bot | "Most people never read terms of service - but even when they do, "agreements" are subject to unilateral "renegotiation" by companies that engineered high switching costs as a means of corralling you into clicking "I agree" to things no rational person would *ever* agree to." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106291087284432671 | May 26 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "Most people never read terms of service - but eve…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré | May 26 02:07 | |
| techrights-bot | #cows #fi #finland https://areena.yle.fi/1-50838975 | May 26 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-areena.yle.fi | Svenska Yle live: Kosläpp i Liljendal | Yle Östnyland - video | TV | Areena | yle.fi | May 26 02:09 | |
| baronhk[m] | What really pisses me off is how the "news" takes the side of people who could work and just don't want a job because unemployment is there and they risk getting COVID. | May 26 02:09 |
| baronhk[m] | It's like, motherfucker it's the same risk everyone who is stocking your groceries and comes to hook up your cable takes. | May 26 02:09 |
| baronhk[m] | Since it has become endemic, people are going to get it sooner or later. | May 26 02:10 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151598 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 26 02:12 | |
| schestowitz | alextee: lol indeed | May 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | alextee: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/epo-parody-spanish.ogv | May 26 02:15 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▁▄▃▄▁▂▃▄▅▂▅▆▅▅▄▅▆▅▅▆▄▅▁▆▄▅▅▆▁▁▄▄▅▅▁▅▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 17.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁█▂█▁▁█▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂█▃▂▂█▁▃▃▁▂█▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 65.85▕ swarm size (avg): 230.56 ⟲ | May 26 02:16 |
| techrights-bot | #epo #parody (old) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/epo-parody-spanish.ogv | May 26 02:16 |
| alextee | lol | May 26 02:17 |
| techrights-bot | #GNU , #FSF , and #FSFE Latest • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151599 #freesw #TuxMachines | May 26 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU, FSF, and FSFE Latest | Tux Machines | May 26 02:22 | |
| techrights-bot | Videos: #OpenIndiana , #Vimium , and #LINUXUnplugged • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151600 | May 26 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: OpenIndiana, Vimium, and LINUX Unplugged | Tux Machines | May 26 02:23 | |
| baronhk[m] | <techrights-bot "#epo #parody (old) http://techri"> That's like one of those Downfall videos. | May 26 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: techri; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://techri ) | May 26 02:29 | |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: https://www.captiongenerator.com/2072962/EPO-strike | May 26 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.captiongenerator.com | EPO strike | May 26 02:33 | |
| techrights-bot | Links 26/5/2021: #Magit 3.0 and Chrome 91 Released • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/magit-3-0/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/25/magit-3-0/ | May 26 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/5/2021: Magit 3.0 and Chrome 91 Released | Techrights | May 26 02:36 | |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250521.txt Read the log now... | May 26 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 | May 26 02:37 | |
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| techrights-bot | #rsync acting badly in #freenode http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250521.html#tMay%2025%2018:28:57 | May 26 02:39 |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250521.txt Read the log now... | May 26 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 | May 26 02:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 | May 26 02:39 | |
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| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151601 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 02:39 | |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250521.txt Read the log now... | May 26 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 | May 26 02:40 | |
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| techrights-bot | On Tuesday #microsost once again googlebombed the word "LINUX" to promote the very things that ATTACK #gnu #linux so don't fall for it. It's not "love", it is RAPE. | May 26 02:43 |
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| techrights-bot | The Western copycat (in #Texas ) of# RodneyGilstrap makes #patent #law look insane, corrupt, and worthy of abandonment https://www.law360.com/ip/articles/1388067/-patent-group-faults-albright-s-refusal-to-transfer-apple-case | May 26 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent Group Faults Albright's Refusal To Transfer Apple Case - Law360 | May 26 02:45 | |
| techrights-bot | #Chrome 91 Release and #Mozilla Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151604 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome 91 Release and Mozilla Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 02:49 | |
| techrights-bot | #Ubuntu on #Dell , Raspberry Pi, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151603 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Dell, Raspberry Pi, and More | Tux Machines | May 26 02:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #Oracle / #SUSE , Fedora, and IBM • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151602 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle/SUSE, Fedora, and IBM | Tux Machines | May 26 02:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #Intel and #AMD Linux Work • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151605 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel and AMD Linux Work | Tux Machines | May 26 02:55 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE : Active Applet Indicator and #Krita Funding • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151606 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Active Applet Indicator and Krita Funding | Tux Machines | May 26 02:56 | |
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| techrights-ipfs | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | May 26 03:04 |
| techrights-ipfs | QmTKai68FnVitaid23i2QQCPmYKGU8KBTRYyiefzstV3Q2 | May 26 03:08 |
| baronhk[m] | Lori Lightfoot has done such a great job as mayor that I looked up my old apartment from 2016-2017 in South Shore. It's 50% more expensive and with 70% more gunshots going off nearby. Woohoo. | May 26 03:16 |
| saint_dogbert | liberal utopia what with all those anti-gun laws making it safe for everyone | May 26 03:16 |
| baronhk[m] | But mjg59is pleased with her mayoralty because she's black and came here to munch carpet and raise taxes. | May 26 03:16 |
| baronhk[m] | <saint_dogbert "liberal utopia what with all tho"> I got my FOID card back after my appeal. I need to blog about this. | May 26 03:17 |
| baronhk[m] | Maybe it'll be in the queue tomorrow. | May 26 03:17 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▆▅▄▅▄▆▁▃▁▃▄▄▃▄▅▂▁▄▅▄▇▃▃▅▇█▆▅▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 34.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▃▂▁▁▂▂███▁▁▂▂▃▂█▁▁▂▂▂▃▃▁▂▂█▃▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 60.78▕ swarm size (avg): 230.60 ⟲ | May 26 03:18 |
| saint_dogbert | baronhk[m]: If you do, would you send me a link? I'd be interested in reading what Chicago is like from a gun owners perspective | May 26 03:19 |
| baronhk[m] | I don't have one. They made me surrender the card last time before I could buy one. | May 26 03:20 |
| baronhk[m] | I just got it back a couple weeks ago. | May 26 03:20 |
| saint_dogbert | :/ | May 26 03:21 |
| baronhk[m] | When they noticed that the court had taken away my right to have a gun/FOID card, it was 8 months into a 12 month court order. | May 26 03:21 |
| baronhk[m] | :) | May 26 03:21 |
| baronhk[m] | Meanwhile, they just let a dude who sodomized and murdered a 16 year old in the Cook County Forest Preserve in 1972 out for good behavior, and he immediately vanished without reporting to his parole officer. | May 26 03:22 |
| baronhk[m] | And that's not the worst thing they've done this year. | May 26 03:22 |
| saint_dogbert | any chance he was offed by a family member of the vic? | May 26 03:22 |
| baronhk[m] | And dumped in the Forest Preserve? | May 26 03:23 |
| baronhk[m] | I certainly hope so. | May 26 03:23 |
| baronhk[m] | Maybe some Lori fan will find him on the bike path and scream. | May 26 03:23 |
| saint_dogbert | or is now more useful serving as part of a foundation for a new building? | May 26 03:23 |
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| baronhk[m] | There's still a skyscraper going up. | May 26 03:24 |
| baronhk[m] | Once they start, they don't stop. | May 26 03:24 |
| baronhk[m] | They won't be starting new ones for a while, I suppose. | May 26 03:24 |
| saint_dogbert | Probably not with the way the economy is going | May 26 03:25 |
| baronhk[m] | It's bad to build new capacity in a real estate market that has two years of inventory already. | May 26 03:25 |
| saint_dogbert | maybe we can ship some of our illegals over there to take up some of the excess inventory? | May 26 03:25 |
| saint_dogbert | Seems like they'd welcomed with open arms anyway by Lightfoot | May 26 03:26 |
| baronhk[m] | Probably. | May 26 03:26 |
| saint_dogbert | Crazy Joe has been dumping them off in the North Western States during the night | May 26 03:27 |
| baronhk[m] | They were spending millions of city tax dollars on lawyers for people who jumped a fence and said I'm here. | May 26 03:27 |
| saint_dogbert | And handing out cash and food cards | May 26 03:27 |
| baronhk[m] | They had a city "stimulus" that only illegal immigrants got. | May 26 03:27 |
| saint_dogbert | Figures | May 26 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert | :\ | May 26 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert | How many billions went into that fund? | May 26 03:28 |
| baronhk[m] | They said "private" sources and wouldn't disclose who paid it. | May 26 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert | probably that funding for gender studies included in the pork bill | May 26 03:28 |
| baronhk[m] | Read: The city sold bonds that won't come due for 40 years and you'll know all about it then. | May 26 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert | and the water finding expeditions for Tibet | May 26 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert | Among other items | May 26 03:29 |
| baronhk[m] | Lori said she would henceforth only be interviewed by black and brown reporters. | May 26 03:30 |
| baronhk[m] | Preferably of the female variety. | May 26 03:30 |
| baronhk[m] | The media in Chicago is "too white and male" so white men are locked out of interviews. | May 26 03:31 |
| baronhk[m] | Which is totally not racist at all. Not that I know why you'd want to interview THAT except for the lulz. | May 26 03:31 |
| saint_dogbert | That isn't exactly surprising anymore | May 26 03:31 |
| saint_dogbert | heard that | May 26 03:31 |
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| saint_dogbert | So what do you think? War on the horizon? | May 26 03:32 |
| saint_dogbert | Usually, when people talk to me about whats going on, they bring that topic up | May 26 03:33 |
| saint_dogbert | so might as well ask | May 26 03:33 |
| baronhk[m] | schestowitzseems to think a civil war in the US is not out of the question. | May 26 03:33 |
| saint_dogbert | I think its coming. With the way the Feds are targeting people for trespassing yet ignoring all the rioters last summer | May 26 03:34 |
| baronhk[m] | I think the media and tech companies want to race bait and they're probably going to shove us into another hot, hot August of looting and burning. | May 26 03:34 |
| saint_dogbert | people being held in DC jails without charges, bail, etc | May 26 03:34 |
| saint_dogbert | Its not out of the question that the USA might be in war soon | May 26 03:35 |
| baronhk[m] | You can see the inflation go up almost minute by minute. | May 26 03:35 |
| saint_dogbert | yep | May 26 03:35 |
| baronhk[m] | A 24 pack of Coke is $7.98 at Walmart "on rollback" due to the holiday. | May 26 03:35 |
| saint_dogbert | and jobs disappearing while states cut unemployment... homeless problem is about to get worse | May 26 03:36 |
| baronhk[m] | I noticed that they knocked the prices back on stuff for cookouts. Like they're fooling anyone. | May 26 03:36 |
| saint_dogbert | 8 million job openings to 13 million unemployed estimated | May 26 03:36 |
| baronhk[m] | A jar of miracle whip miraculously went from $3.78 to $3.48. | May 26 03:36 |
| baronhk[m] | Err, $4.78 to $3.48. | May 26 03:36 |
| baronhk[m] | Then Walmart managed to piss off everyone working there. | May 26 03:36 |
| baronhk[m] | They gave some of them a raise to $16-17, and left everyone else at $12. | May 26 03:37 |
| CrystalMath | rasengan: people from GNU have asked me about the new sentence in the freenode policy, "Primary channels are required to stay open."; GNU is still not sure about whether to stay on freenode or not; they're concerned that it means that projects are not allowed to leave freenode; could it be clarified somehow to solve that misunderstanding? | May 26 03:39 |
| CrystalMath | alternatively, would you have the time to join the #fsf meeting tomorrow about their presence on IRC? | May 26 03:42 |
| baronhk[m] | I think my catalytic converter is about to have some big trouble. | May 26 03:44 |
| baronhk[m] | I noticed my car makes some popping noises after I've been driving it for a while. | May 26 03:44 |
| baronhk[m] | Only on acceleration. | May 26 03:44 |
| baronhk[m] | Cat clog is the first thing I thought of because if it was a suspension part, it would just be broken or not broken. | May 26 03:45 |
| CrystalMath | rasengan: sorry, i made a mistake, it's not tomorrow it's on thursday | May 26 03:49 |
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| XRevan86 | https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397372792660713472 does k-lining mean what I think it means? | May 26 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "they k-lined almost all ex-staffers just now, but won't k-line me. the problem of being IRC royalty, i guess" | nitter | May 26 04:22 | |
| MinceR | and now they've set up a bot to automatically reassign ownership of channels they detected as being "closed" (incorrectly) to some sort of placeholder account... and close the channels | May 26 04:22 |
| MinceR | brilliant. | May 26 04:22 |
| MinceR | #bedrock has become unusable | May 26 04:22 |
| MinceR | it's like they _want_ to lose users | May 26 04:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Which network? I cannot tell from context. | May 26 04:25 |
| MinceR | freenode | May 26 04:25 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: freenode | May 26 04:25 |
| MinceR | this one | May 26 04:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, I couldn't believe even ye stopped liking what's going on. | May 26 04:27 |
| MinceR | well, this is just stupid and self-destructive | May 26 04:27 |
| CrystalMath | it really should have been supervised rather than using a bot | May 26 04:27 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 26 04:28 |
| MinceR | but this should be obvious to any competent oper | May 26 04:28 |
| XRevan86 | I read https://freenode.net/news/for-foss and… it's like reading a Soviet newspaper. | May 26 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode exists for FOSS - freenode | May 26 04:28 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397374294255091713 I promise I didn't see this post before writing that. | May 26 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "...of the people's republic of freenode" | nitter | May 26 04:30 | |
| alextee | lol freenode just hijacked my channel "<freenodecom> This channel has been reopened with respect to the communities and new users. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies" | May 26 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The Policies - freenode | May 26 04:55 | |
| MinceR | what was in the topic before? | May 26 04:55 |
| MinceR | did it allow people to join and talk? | May 26 04:55 |
| alextee | that the channel moved to libera | May 26 04:55 |
| alextee | yeah | May 26 04:55 |
| MinceR | well, that's what they shot at | May 26 04:55 |
| alextee | well, how am i supposed to tell people in the channel to move if they haven't seen it/moved yet? | May 26 04:56 |
| MinceR | though i'm not sure why it bothers them that people can talk in a channel that's being moved or whatever | May 26 04:56 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | May 26 04:56 |
| XRevan86 | There were debates before, I think this settles the matter. | May 26 04:56 |
| MinceR | yeah | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | alextee: don't move to libera :P | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | it's very similar | May 26 04:56 |
| MinceR | yeah | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | err, i mean, it's very simple | May 26 04:56 |
| MinceR | move to umbrellanet :) | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | just don't move to libera | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | i'm super tired | May 26 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | i don't know what i'm typing anymore | May 26 04:56 |
| *alextee tries to figure out how to tell the matrix frenode bridge to unbridge itself | May 26 04:57 | |
| MinceR | the topic of #bedrock was: "#bedrock at irc.libera.chat and irc.oftc.net already set up, may officially move to one shortly | Current stable version: 0.7.20, current beta: N/A | https://bedrocklinux.org | politics/drama/significantly-offtopic -> ##bedrock-chat" | May 26 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org | Bedrock Linux | May 26 04:57 | |
| MinceR | and it still fell victim to this | May 26 04:57 |
| MinceR | and now we can't talk there | May 26 04:57 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I think ye are incredibly biased. | May 26 04:58 |
| XRevan86 | This is the point where freenode loses all support, and CrystalMath still would rather give in to the chaos rather than admit that he picked the wrong horse. | May 26 05:00 |
| MinceR | the chaos has some good things about it, though | May 26 05:00 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: oftc isn't better btw | May 26 05:00 |
| MinceR | https://www.oftc.net/staff/ | May 26 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oftc.net | OFTC - Staff | May 26 05:00 | |
| CrystalMath | Myon, i know | May 26 05:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's an ultimate loss of truth, there are no upsides to that. | May 26 05:00 |
| CrystalMath | and tomaw | May 26 05:00 |
| XRevan86 | trust, err | May 26 05:01 |
| MinceR | and RichiH, and mcgovern | May 26 05:01 |
| CrystalMath | oh damn | May 26 05:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR, CrystalMath: So these people bother you more than the staff at freenode? | May 26 05:02 |
| CrystalMath | yes | May 26 05:02 |
| CrystalMath | absolutely | May 26 05:02 |
| MinceR | in a way, yes | May 26 05:02 |
| CrystalMath | this bot capture GAVE me 2 channels :P | May 26 05:02 |
| MinceR | the staff of freenode seem to be merely incompetent | May 26 05:02 |
| MinceR | the oftc/libera people are malicious | May 26 05:02 |
| CrystalMath | because i ran the unofficial variants | May 26 05:02 |
| CrystalMath | but i wasn't sure what to do with them | May 26 05:02 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 05:03 |
| MinceR | so it doesn't assign everything to their placeholder account? | May 26 05:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397385209260224512 I think ye missed the memo. | May 26 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "like that person is literally insane from what i can tell" | nitter | May 26 05:03 | |
| MinceR | i can't really be angry at cpunches for going after anti-free software SJWs | May 26 05:04 |
| MinceR | those people are scum | May 26 05:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: phanes is accused of sending death threats. | May 26 05:05 |
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| MinceR | what sorts of death threats? | May 26 05:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not bloody malicious? Just because ye don't share some hecking opinions? | May 26 05:06 |
| kakama | MinceR: I agree that the coc sjw stick in the mud no fun types that would have run off to Liberia were lame | May 26 05:06 |
| kakama | but the weird channel killing stuff that happened a bit ago is kinda weird too | May 26 05:06 |
| XRevan86 | No wonder the Internet is such a melting pot of misery. | May 26 05:07 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: beheading the FSF so that IBM and microsoft suits can take over and turn code that was assigned to the FSF or that had an "or later" license into IBM/microsoft property is more than just "some hecking opinions" | May 26 05:07 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: canceling people in the way of monopolies is also more than just "some hecking opinions" | May 26 05:07 |
| MinceR | kakama: yeah, this channel killing stuff is utterly idiotic and will probably drive a lot of projects off freenode | May 26 05:08 |
| MinceR | and will probably turn a lot of people against freenode | May 26 05:08 |
| kakama | I feel like if that wasn't done, the 'overcoming inertia' of changing servers would have had a lot of people reconnecting to freenode for a long time, maybe forever | May 26 05:08 |
| kakama | and if Liberia fails like so many other networks, they would instinctively return here | May 26 05:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And Trotsky deserved his death for treason against the Stalin's vision of what the country needs to survive. | May 26 05:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: do i look like someone who shares stalin's vision of what is needed? | May 26 05:09 |
| kakama | but not if the channel gets shut down in weird raids like a 3 AM rave | May 26 05:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Did that look like the point I am making? | May 26 05:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: dunno | May 26 05:10 |
| samiamsam | what's this channel killing thing? | May 26 05:11 |
| MinceR | samiamsam: see above | May 26 05:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No matter how horribly wrong ye think these people are and if maybe they're shepherding FOSS to its doom, there are opinions (strong or not) and then there are simple objective facts. | May 26 05:11 |
| MinceR | samiamsam: i mentioned it with regards to #bedrock | May 26 05:12 |
| kakama | samiamsam: seems like it happened to quite a few, basically channels where the topic was like WE MOVED TO LIBERIA had opbot come in and change the topic to 'this topic violates network policies reee' and then mass deop everyone | May 26 05:12 |
| kakama | and set the channel to +m | May 26 05:12 |
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| kakama | then in some act of cybernetic remorse the bot says 'this channel is reopened no ill will' but didn't unset the +m or reop anyone lmao | May 26 05:12 |
| *kakama crunches down on some popcorn | May 26 05:12 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: There are certain civil boundaries that must not be crossed. I don't even care who or why. | May 26 05:13 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the "impersonation" thing looks like changing nicks on irc | May 26 05:13 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: what actually happened? | May 26 05:13 |
| kakama | also if you go to #freenode it's a weird one sided +m mode where the ops can see what everyone types but you can only see what ops type so it looks hella schizo | May 26 05:13 |
| MinceR | kakama: not only did it not reop anyone, it changed ownership of the channel to some placeholder account | May 26 05:13 |
| kakama | yeah | May 26 05:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Wait, I haven't heard of that. | May 26 05:13 |
| MinceR | that "one sided" mode is +z | May 26 05:13 |
| kakama | ah | May 26 05:14 |
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| baronhk[m] | <XRevan86 "I read https://freenode.net/news"> Current global users: 68347 | May 26 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://freenode.net/news/ ) | May 26 05:14 | |
| kakama | I am from efnet, I don't know how all these city slicker modes and services work | May 26 05:14 |
| MinceR | lol @ city slicker | May 26 05:14 |
| baronhk[m] | Nyet, comrade! The Politburo would never admit to losing half of users in a month. | May 26 05:14 |
| MinceR | /quote help cmode | May 26 05:14 |
| baronhk[m] | Is double. | May 26 05:15 |
| MinceR | "Current global users 66518," | May 26 05:15 |
| -rasengan-[Global Notice] In the recent policy enforcement, some channels were erroneously included. We greatly apologize for the inconvenience. Please contact us in #freenode-services or contact-us@freenode.net. Thanks for your patience and choosing freenode! | May 26 05:15 | |
| kakama | it's sad cuz I really thought maybe the really insufferable types would leave freenode, possibly freeing it of the eternal nickname freechode | May 26 05:15 |
| MinceR | you can see it with /lusers | May 26 05:15 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 05:15 |
| kakama | and then maybe freenode could be fun and stuff | May 26 05:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, i was hoping it would be a more chill place | May 26 05:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Impersonation thing? Where? | May 26 05:15 |
| kakama | but I guess one lame irc network turned into two lame irc networks | May 26 05:15 |
| MinceR | with less of the "we're not IRC", "we're not competing" and #/## madness | May 26 05:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://nitter.fdn.fr/mjg59/status/1397384190644002818#m | May 26 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://nitter.fdn.fr/mjg59/status/1397384190644002818#m ) | May 26 05:16 | |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▁▅▅▄▄▅▅▆▆▇▂▄▅▄▂▄▅▆▅▁▂▆▅▃▃▆▁▁█▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 32.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▄▁▂▂▂▃▃▂▂▂▃▁▂▂█▂▂▁█▁▂▂▂▂██▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 41.91▕ swarm size (avg): 230.68 ⟲ | May 26 05:16 |
| MinceR | i thought you were talking about this | May 26 05:16 |
| kakama | or more like one lame new one with the old one's pretentiousness and one weird zombie network that appears to be schizophrenia incarnate | May 26 05:16 |
| kakama | I will say tho I never seen this techrights blog until all this drama, had a read at the articles on it, big fan, good stuff | May 26 05:17 |
| samiamsam | "In the recent policy enforcement, some channels were erroneously included." | May 26 05:17 |
| MinceR | duh | May 26 05:17 |
| samiamsam | poetry | May 26 05:17 |
| baronhk[m] | I thought we went over this. As long as black carpet muncher is in charge, who cares if rent goes up 50% and gunfire increases 70%? At least in mjg59world. | May 26 05:17 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 05:17 |
| MinceR | mjg59 is not the point of that link | May 26 05:17 |
| MinceR | 26 060351 <+XRevan86> MinceR: https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397385209260224512 I think ye missed the memo. | May 26 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "like that person is literally insane from what i can tell" | nitter | May 26 05:17 | |
| baronhk[m] | If he's angry about anything in Chicago, it's probably that the mayor isn't a black lesbian after undergoing a sex change. | May 26 05:18 |
| MinceR | it's the first post linked in the above thread | May 26 05:18 |
| kakama | I'm sorry are you implying there is a dark skin lesbian in charge of a city full of guns and landlord profit? | May 26 05:18 |
| kakama | how do I go | May 26 05:18 |
| MinceR | or retweeted, or whatever | May 26 05:18 |
| kakama | that sounds awesome as hell | May 26 05:18 |
| baronhk[m] | We need to pack as many checkmarks into this thing as possible. | May 26 05:18 |
| MinceR | gunfire isn't necessarily a bad thing anyway | May 26 05:18 |
| baronhk[m] | MinceR: It applies to the Freenode/Libera Chat feud as well, I suppose. | May 26 05:18 |
| MinceR | you can practice with targets, for example | May 26 05:18 |
| MinceR | you can have fun with tannerite | May 26 05:18 |
| baronhk[m] | It's infighting in FOSS. Exactly what his bosses want. | May 26 05:19 |
| MinceR | yeah | May 26 05:19 |
| baronhk[m] | And Libera Chat has already adopted his favorite CoC. | May 26 05:19 |
| kakama | I own a duplex and have guns, rent and gunfire are my favourite | May 26 05:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, right, I was thinking about the phanes thing. And just taking channels willy-nilly. | May 26 05:19 |
| baronhk[m] | <MinceR "you can practice with targets, f"> The folks in Chicago kill about 2 people for every 15 they shot, and they're usually the wrong 2 people. | May 26 05:20 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the death threat thing that was not explained further? | May 26 05:20 |
| MinceR | baronhk[m]: lol | May 26 05:20 |
| baronhk[m] | They ought to let them practice on each other in prison between Parole Board hearings. | May 26 05:20 |
| baronhk[m] | (On the Parole Board too.) | May 26 05:20 |
| MinceR | as for the "taking channels" thing, part of that was almost justified | May 26 05:21 |
| baronhk[m] | Maybe if those fuckers actually had to deal with any of this shit they'd stop letting them out. | May 26 05:21 |
| MinceR | it's just that the bot did the wrong thing there too, as the point would have been setting the channel -mi | May 26 05:21 |
| kakama | baronhk[m]: yeah overall the fighting and feuding seems to be the goal | May 26 05:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The impersonation thing does look intentional. | May 26 05:21 |
| kakama | which is kind of how irl is these days | May 26 05:21 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it also looks pretty uninteresting | May 26 05:22 |
| kakama | like you want to say 'those guys are being insane' but they have insane opposition and you try to do basically anything, you realize you're playing into the hands of the actors who are using subversion psyops marketing blah to create strife and conflict | May 26 05:22 |
| kakama | any kind of fight against anything is itself losing the larger war | May 26 05:22 |
| kakama | hell of a pickle, lads. | May 26 05:23 |
| baronhk[m] | If the state actually wanted the violence to be over, it would be....and fast. | May 26 05:23 |
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| baronhk[m] | The state has reminded us all that it can do anything it wants, whenever it wants, and nobody will stop it. It just chooses not to. | May 26 05:23 |
| kakama | easy enough to start shitflinging in foss, now that those oh so infectious memes that disguise themselves as 'progress' (at the cost and suffering of real progress) have entered teh game | May 26 05:23 |
| kakama | well yeah, the violence is induced | May 26 05:24 |
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| baronhk[m] | When he was sitting in his bunker last year, Trump implied that martial law would get things under control fast. | May 26 05:24 |
| kakama | the guy throwing the brick through a window, the guy driving his truck through a crowd, everyone thinks they're fighting the system, but the system is the fighting | May 26 05:24 |
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| baronhk[m] | You go in, you kill anyone who shoots at the military, you go into their homes, take the guns, and the drugs, and find a deep, dark hole for as many lawbreakers as you encounter who surrender. | May 26 05:25 |
| kakama | Dr. Kaczynski has some very salient points about what he referred to as 'leftism' though I think that should be divorced from American political positions as a term | May 26 05:26 |
| kakama | but the general concept of moving goalposts so the end goal is never reached, never quite enough | May 26 05:26 |
| baronhk[m] | While people were tearing up Chicago, instead of having the National Guard out firing off 5.56 at them, Pritzker had them directing traffic so that CPD could sleep on couches. | May 26 05:26 |
| baronhk[m] | I think they arrested like 13-14 people, something like that. Crowd of hundreds. That sends a message too. | May 26 05:27 |
| kakama | sucks up movements that should be common sense and good (don't be racist, don't hate gays) and turns them into something else far more radical, which ultimately hurts everyone (especially the marginalized groups they claim to protect) | May 26 05:27 |
| baronhk[m] | Which is why it will happen this summer. | May 26 05:27 |
| buzzert | i think you guys are assuming the general public is also not tired of this | May 26 05:28 |
| kakama | naw they are buzzert | May 26 05:28 |
| buzzert | you do not have a minority opinion | May 26 05:28 |
| kakama | that's the beautiful trick of these kind of psyops games | May 26 05:28 |
| buzzert | this is something social media algorithms do. they make you think you're the only one who thinks a particular way and everyone else is "crazy" | May 26 05:28 |
| kakama | manipulate a radical minority and then give them the megaphone, viciously attack anyone who questions the emperor's clothes so that the majority is kept in control via fear | May 26 05:29 |
| baronhk[m] | Pretty much. I mean, I think I commented "Try not backing up at the police or pulling a gun on them and you'll probably live." on Facebook. | May 26 05:29 |
| baronhk[m] | That started a shitstorm. | May 26 05:29 |
| kakama | in some form this has been repeated throughout history but now it's got that whacky algorithm-content-feed thing happening | May 26 05:29 |
| baronhk[m] | I mean, I don't like dealing with the police. Nobody does. But "this is usually what happens when you fight back". | May 26 05:30 |
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| kakama | I almost want it to all be just-as-planned by the Chinese/Russians/US/whoever, that's a nice illusion of someone being in control | May 26 05:30 |
| baronhk[m] | They're in control of what they want to be in control of. | May 26 05:30 |
| baronhk[m] | It was cheaper to let some Oakley sunglasses go than pay taxes to put those folks in prison. | May 26 05:30 |
| baronhk[m] | So they'll escalate. | May 26 05:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: eh, okay then | May 26 05:31 |
| kakama | but it is more likely to me that the jump iun communications technology, especially the monkey's paw wish of 'algorithims that show you what you want to see', have accelerated the rate at which memes are spread and evolved | May 26 05:31 |
| kakama | so a number of parties play the game of manipulating the ever-accelerating human psychic field we manifest through communications technology, and the whole thing just goes faster and faster, dangerous memes popping up and getting stuck in people | May 26 05:32 |
| baronhk[m] | I just updated Tor Browser on my phone. | May 26 05:32 |
| baronhk[m] | I had the version from August of last year. | May 26 05:32 |
| baronhk[m] | Somehow, the Guardian Project's repo got unchecked in F-Droid. | May 26 05:32 |
| baronhk[m] | I don't use it much on my phone so I never noticed. | May 26 05:33 |
| kakama | stand alone complex shit popping off, acts of terrorism arising because some combination of ideas in a weird bubble trapped and exploded someone into a rampage | May 26 05:33 |
| kakama | and being aware of this does not prevent you from being subject to the forces of it, we're all on this train and none of us are immune to propoganda | May 26 05:34 |
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| buzzert | including the propaganda that the country is "more divided than ever" ;P | May 26 05:34 |
| kakama | but damn the printing press caused a lot of shit overall for humanity | May 26 05:34 |
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| kakama | this shit is fucking wild | May 26 05:34 |
| kakama | yeah we really aren't, there's just radical elements that are encourage dinto being increasingly radical | May 26 05:35 |
| MinceR | the human species caused a lot of shit overall for this planet :> | May 26 05:35 |
| baronhk[m] | The Freenode post just gets worse as you keep reading. | May 26 05:35 |
| baronhk[m] | I haven't read any Soviet newspapers, but I imagine this is what it would read like. | May 26 05:36 |
| kakama | maybe because the Chinese want us to boog so they can sneak up and take Taiwan, maybe because the US gov wants to invoke all radical elements now so they can deal with the problem and eliminate threats to future toltalitarianism, or maybe Larry Paigerank and the Zucc are just kinda assholes with their pandora boxes of curated content | May 26 05:36 |
| MinceR | kakama: but isn't the whole tribe-specific "news"/"facts"/ filter bubble thing relatively new? | May 26 05:37 |
| kakama | It has always existed, but the speed at which memes can spread is faster | May 26 05:37 |
| kakama | I mean before printing press tech, how long did it take memes to be shared to others? | May 26 05:37 |
| buzzert | i think things will cool off once people get out of their damn houses | May 26 05:37 |
| buzzert | its already happening i think | May 26 05:37 |
| kakama | humans having to travel, tell stories, all very manual, musta taken years for some whacky meme that evolved in what they considered a city to propogate to the rest of the country | May 26 05:38 |
| baronhk[m] | <buzzert "i think things will cool off onc"> Being online all day does mean you get sucked into a lot of weird shit. | May 26 05:38 |
| buzzert | yeap 100% | May 26 05:38 |
| alextee[m] | huh my channel's been made invite only | May 26 05:38 |
| kakama | with each tech burst that process moves faster and faster, and then the whole AI-filter-bubble nonsense just appeared | May 26 05:38 |
| baronhk[m] | Facebook doesn't moderate things all that well, so if you really start looking at people's pages, I mean..... | May 26 05:39 |
| baronhk[m] | This one person was shitting in adult diapers and posting the photos. | May 26 05:39 |
| kakama | so the speed at which we share ideas, the number of people who are doing so, all accelerating, if anything the algorithms arose as some inevitable result of this massive conciousness acceleration | May 26 05:39 |
| baronhk[m] | And when I reported it, they said it didn't violate their ToS. | May 26 05:39 |
| MinceR | kakama: i think it wasn't as practical for people to close themselves into an echo chamber of "news" with the spin of their tribe only | May 26 05:40 |
| kakama | I sometimes refer to it as a psychic field, not in a mystical sense but idk what else to call it, that emergent property of human conciousness with rapid communication | May 26 05:40 |
| MinceR | there weren't so many choices for media and the methodology wasn't worked out yet | May 26 05:40 |
| kakama | yeah MinceR definitely not | May 26 05:40 |
| buzzert | theres an interesting trend i noticed on twitter. ive spoken to people irl who talk about "friends they know" who are palestinian/trans/black/whatever, but if i press on that relationship a little further it turns out they have never actually met this person ever. they just follow them on twitter | May 26 05:40 |
| buzzert | but they think they're friends in real life | May 26 05:40 |
| buzzert | it's kind of psychotic | May 26 05:40 |
| buzzert | but its alarmingly common | May 26 05:41 |
| kakama | advertisting as a weapon of control only really came about in a major way last century | May 26 05:41 |
| kakama | buzzert: I wonder if it's the same kind of people who 15 years ago would mock any of us for having 'internet friends' saying we didn't really know them | May 26 05:41 |
| baronhk[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/facebook/comments/nkvasx/i_just_got_blocked_from_fb_for_using_the_word/ | May 26 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I just got blocked from FB for using the word Zionist in a conversation with a friend. WTF? : facebook | May 26 05:41 | |
| baronhk[m] | "during a conversation with friends in a private group, we were discussing the Israel/Palestine issue and then I wrote the word Zionist in the middle of a trivial comment, few seconds later I got the popup saying my account was restricted for 30 days for breaking FB community standards for hate speech" | May 26 05:41 |
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| kakama | maybe it's a different crew, might be mostly the older kinds who didn't understand how internet friends worked (real ones like IRC homies etc) | May 26 05:42 |
| buzzert | kakama: internet friends really meant something different when we were kids (assuming you're from before eternal september) | May 26 05:42 |
| baronhk[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/facebook/comments/nl7k8h/are_you_ok_facebook/ | May 26 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Are you OK Facebook? : facebook | May 26 05:42 | |
| kakama | I'm not from before First Impact eternal september I'm a 30yoboomer | May 26 05:42 |
| kakama | so I wandered onto rizon when I was 13 or so in the early 2000s | May 26 05:43 |
| alextee[m] | https://mastodon.social/web/timelines/tag/freenode | May 26 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | #freenode - Mastodon | May 26 05:43 | |
| kakama | but the whole social media/iphone shit seems like second impact to me | May 26 05:43 |
| buzzert | yeah indeed | May 26 05:44 |
| buzzert | 2010 was the year | May 26 05:44 |
| kakama | maybe if you were around for the first time the internet died, idk how it seems in comparison | May 26 05:44 |
| kakama | but it seems pretty fucking night and day for me | May 26 05:44 |
| buzzert | i wasnt, im actually the same age as you | May 26 05:44 |
| kakama | I call it around 2008, since that's when Facebook opened the rainbow bridge for normalfags and the iphone came out | May 26 05:44 |
| kakama | >2006: haha your phone connects to wifi and runs windows ur a fucking nerd | May 26 05:44 |
| kakama | >2008: haha you don't use the internet on your phone all day? what a nerd! | May 26 05:45 |
| kakama | shit was weird | May 26 05:45 |
| baronhk[m] | Oh god, yeah, I knew someone with a Windows CE phone. | May 26 05:45 |
| buzzert | iphone 3gs i think was when it reached escape velocity | May 26 05:45 |
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| MinceR | secondo impacto :> | May 26 05:47 |
| MinceR | i had a winblows mobile 5 phone after my palmos pda bricked itself and before i switched to symbian :> | May 26 05:47 |
| buzzert | is there any going back? | May 26 05:47 |
| buzzert | people start hating their smartphones maybe? | May 26 05:47 |
| MinceR | after symbian i went to android | May 26 05:48 |
| kakama | for me it was the HTC Wizard | May 26 05:51 |
| kakama | Windows Mobile 5.1 | May 26 05:51 |
| MinceR | same for me | May 26 05:51 |
| MinceR | (Wizard 200, as Qtek 9100) | May 26 05:51 |
| kakama | 5. fucking 1, windows was in the smartphone game, but so retarded as to be like 'yeah so the start menu is just really tiny cuz it is mobile' | May 26 05:51 |
| kakama | Cingular 8125 branding here | May 26 05:52 |
| MinceR | well, it was better than "windows phone" | May 26 05:52 |
| MinceR | it had multitasking, copy/paste, sideloading | May 26 05:52 |
| kakama | overclocked that bitch so it burned my hand but I could emulate GBA games and play Pokemon Sapphire at 97% emulation speed | May 26 05:52 |
| MinceR | too bad alarms didn't work reliably and eventually it decided it won't even tether reliably | May 26 05:52 |
| kingoffrance | kakama, yeah, the memes get reversed everya few months. OMG you only have internet friends? OMG you aren't on facebook. and the phone wifi thing. one minute its lame. next its the norm | May 26 05:53 |
| buzzert | windows phone was good, actually | May 26 05:53 |
| kakama | windows mobile was nice to develop for | May 26 05:53 |
| kakama | emulator was good | May 26 05:53 |
| kakama | I wouldn't say every few months kingoffrance, it felt like only weird kids spent all their time online and then over the course of 2008 that flipped and everyone was online (and bad at it) | May 26 05:54 |
| kingoffrance | well, the reversals are amsuing OMG you want amazon to spy on you. OMG you dont have alexa. | May 26 05:54 |
| kingoffrance | critical mass or some such | May 26 05:54 |
| kakama | yeah that part is so shitty | May 26 05:54 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 05:54 |
| kakama | universal surveillance state | May 26 05:54 |
| kakama | only protected by the fact that the various companies and governments are fighting each other too much to combine their data into hedgemony | May 26 05:55 |
| kakama | for now | May 26 05:55 |
| kakama | but we all live here knowing full well that one day the algorithm will be fed every IRC log on us it can find, every piece of social media data that others have put up about us, and, Allah forgive me but I do use Discord quite heavily since those retards can't figure out how to IRC | May 26 05:55 |
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| kakama | it'll have our number | May 26 05:56 |
| kakama | can't outsmart it, can't surprise it, The Beast will know us each better than we know ourselves | May 26 05:56 |
| kakama | down to the subtleties of aggregated averages and personal manifestations of 'if I change the next song to a slightly different one it will encourage a behavior path' | May 26 05:57 |
| kingoffrance | most the tv news does this too . the internet is a network of trolls and bloggers/fake journalists. (without any irony whatsoever, 2 minutes later) find us on twitter, visit our forums | May 26 05:57 |
| kakama | gigantic algorithims that emerged from our collective conciousness and desire, creating from themselves something we have yet to see and may never grasp, and those algorithims all mindlessly working with the singular design intent of 'be good at manipulating humans' | May 26 05:58 |
| kakama | manipulating us into happiness, in the best case, but not the usual case | May 26 05:59 |
| kakama | it's all so tiresome | May 26 05:59 |
| kingoffrance | theres a great comic MinceR posted long time ago (or just the site) if i can find it | May 26 06:01 |
| kingoffrance | person orders a meal and/or drink. restaurant/bartender gives something else. on average, ppl are happy with this lol | May 26 06:03 |
| kingoffrance | statistically, thats what you ordered lol | May 26 06:04 |
| kakama | person walks into a restaurant. the bartender has bartended for everyone who ever went to a bar and can tell from the way person walks, looks around, bobs their head, music playing, time of day, weather, venus in transit etc that person will order Drink 3 or Drink 7; resources to make Drink 7 cost the bar more, so bartender starts to prepare Drink 3. Bartender smiles and hums a tune while handing over | May 26 06:09 |
| kakama | the menu, knowing a chain of thought associations will steer person into ordering Drink 3. | May 26 06:09 |
| kingoffrance | well many places have those little tablet thing menus and to pay im sure it will get there | May 26 06:10 |
| kakama | Person orders Drink 3, the bartender brings it out with a smile. Person thinks they made a set of decisions. Bartender made better profit/resource allocation. The End. | May 26 06:10 |
| kingoffrance | matter of time how "suggestive" the menus become once its on a little tablet | May 26 06:10 |
| kingoffrance | or how "personalized" | May 26 06:11 |
| kakama | Afterword: Person sips on Drink 3, looking at all the people drinking the ever popular Drink 1, and thinks to themself 'what a bunch of sheep' | May 26 06:11 |
| kakama | yea I realllly hate the smartphone menu trend | May 26 06:11 |
| kakama | I have been one of those flipphone autists for a few years, ultimately forced into smartphone by stuff like work/2fa, and then corona stuff eliminating paper | May 26 06:12 |
| kakama | having done several recent years without a smartphone, man, they sure do make it trucky as fuck | May 26 06:13 |
| kakama | a handful of things still have the papersystems in place, like public transit, but they're trying to delete it, and every hobo has a smartphone because you can get them for 10 bucks at 7/11 | May 26 06:13 |
| kakama | ultimately it introduced a bunch of inconveniences and scenarios that had all the vibe of the numerous Seinfeld episodes that could have been prevented with a cell phone | May 26 06:14 |
| kakama | at least I could generally ask anyone over 50 for directions and they would give step by step stuff, not being conditioned to use Maps | May 26 06:15 |
| kakama | but really it's made impossible, not even for nefarious reasons mostly, just convenience, for now | May 26 06:15 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▆▆▅▃▄▄▄▆▁▂▅▄▆▅▁▂▄▅▃▅▃▅▃▁▄▄▅▆▆▄▇▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 22.53 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▃▁▂▄▁▂▂█▂▃▁▂▂█▁▄▂▁▁▂▃▁▃▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 57.63▕ swarm size (avg): 230.72 ⟲ | May 26 06:16 |
| kingoffrance | last i saw few years ago there where still pay phones. just the phone book is gone, the receiver is missing, there's just a dangling cable lol | May 26 06:16 |
| kakama | Ted was right about the inevitability of progress crushing us and being turned against us, but his conclusions were irrational and even he admitted as much: destroy industrial society and it would inevitably rise again, because that's the direction evolution takes | May 26 06:16 |
| kingoffrance | i was in some areas without reception, good luck with the "pay phones" lol | May 26 06:16 |
| kakama | I looked long and hard for payphones, most that are listed were cut out long ago | May 26 06:16 |
| kakama | >there used to be a cool analog self-powered hardwired talkboxes all over the place and now they're gone | May 26 06:17 |
| kakama | part of the telephone system benefit is also that it always works, towers go down in a disaster and phones are cut, if the line still makes it to a payphone that bitch will dial | May 26 06:18 |
| kakama | though they were not very good at spying on you, not like the horrid little pocket computers | May 26 06:19 |
| kakama | it's all depressing but when I am optimistic I like to think that the battle between freedom and slavery is just part of that eternal battle of good and evil most religions and philosophies acknowledged | May 26 06:21 |
| buzzert | amen | May 26 06:21 |
| kakama | Good things are turned against us, but new things come out, people keep fighting, as long as we're not destroyed by some incredibly terrible meme I think there's a chance we can do ok | May 26 06:22 |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, May 25, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 26 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | May 26 06:47 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 26 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 26 06:47 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: we did not pick a horse | May 26 06:53 |
| schestowitz | we just stayed where we have been for over 13 years | May 26 06:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: also, tweets are not sources | May 26 06:53 |
| schestowitz | they're random thoughts | May 26 06:53 |
| *tagglink is now known as justsaying | May 26 06:54 | |
| techrights-bot | Kevin E. Noonan keeps on pushing for #patents on life and nature as if they're inventions; greed clouds people's judgement if not their sanity. The #patent system became like a religion for some people, a religion where only money is worshipped. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/cvc-files-reply-to-broads-opposition-to-cvcs-priority-motion.html | May 26 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CVC Files Reply to Broad's Opposition to CVC's Priority Motion | May 26 06:56 | |
| techrights-bot | With about 70k online users, #freenode doesn't seem to have suffered much from the previous volunteers' exit. The predictions of doom and gloom are motivated by personal objectives of some people. People who are sometimes hypocrites too, and can be accused of what they accuse others of. | May 26 06:57 |
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| techrights-bot | All the #microsoft propaganda sites help Microsoft googlebomb the word "LINUX" to promote #windows #vista10 ... it's grotesque and instead of #linuxfoundation stepping in to protect the trademark they liaised with the enemy, looking to undermine Linux. Linux Foundation is defunct. | May 26 07:00 |
| schestowitz | the anti-RMS lobby https://ubuntu-news.org/2021/05/26/announcing-ubuntus-move-to-libera-chat/ | May 26 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Announcing Ubuntu’s move to Libera Chat | May 26 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | same people | May 26 07:01 |
| MinceR | microsoft controls LF, so of course they won't have it enforced against themselves :> | May 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz | actually, this one is not in the anti-RMS letter | May 26 07:04 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait, he us | May 26 07:05 |
| schestowitz | "José Antonio Rey (Ubuntu Community Council, freenode Staff)" | May 26 07:05 |
| techrights-bot | The very same people who tried to cancel the founder of #gnu #linux now try to cancel #freenode and forcibly move everyone off the network without as much as a consultation with users. Yes, José Antonio Rey, I'm looking at you... | May 26 07:06 |
| techrights-bot | ...the very same people who promote Microsoft WSL instead of Ubuntu are now making decisions for Ubuntu. #microsoft #vista10 #wsl #entryism #ubuntu | May 26 07:07 |
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| techrights-bot | "WGS84 (also written WGS 84) is short for World Geodetic System 1984. It's the spatial standard used by most GPS receivers to calculate their position on the Earth's surface." https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2021-05-26.html | May 26 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datafix.com.au | The Incrementing Fill-Down Error | May 26 07:09 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #GRsearch #Programming ☞ In praise of -dry-run https://www.gresearch.co.uk/article/in-praise-of-dry-run/ | May 26 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gresearch.co.uk | In praise of --dry-run | G Research | May 26 07:11 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NewYorkTimes #Health ☞ Why Billionaires Like #BillGates Can’t Fix the Problems They Helped Create https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/opinion/bill-melinda-gates-foundation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | May 26 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Why Did We Think Bill and Melinda Gates Could Fix the World? - The New York Times | May 26 07:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | May 26 07:12 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CyberScoop #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Ransomware forced #Bose systems offline, exposed personal data of 6 former employees https://www.cyberscoop.com/bose-ransomware-hack-letter/ | May 26 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware forced Bose systems offline, exposed personal data of 6 former employees - CyberScoop | May 26 07:13 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Apple employees are going public about workplace issues — and there’s no going back https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/25/22453302/apple-culture-secrecy-leak-antonio-garcia-martinez-letter | May 26 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple employees are going public about workplace issues — and there’s no going back - The Verge | May 26 07:13 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Statement: 3rd Anniversary of the #GDPR https://noyb.eu/en/statement-3rd-anniversary-gdpr | May 26 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | Statement: 3rd Anniversary of the GDPR | May 26 07:14 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ FLoC: Google’s new means of following you across the web https://edri.org/our-work/floc-googles-new-means-of-following-you-across-the-web/ | May 26 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | FLoC: Google's new means of following you across the web - European Digital Rights (EDRi) | May 26 07:14 | |
| techrights-bot | Going to publish shortly: The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 20: Summing up | May 26 07:15 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▂▅▆▅▆▃▁▅▁▆▄▅▃▃▅▃▄▃▇▂▃▅▆▆▅▄▅▄▅▂▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂█▂▂▂▂▃▁█▁█▂▂▂▂▁▄▃▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▃▁▂▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 44.26▕ swarm size (avg): 230.76 ⟲ | May 26 07:16 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CNN #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Drug dealer jailed after sharing a photo of cheese that included his fingerprints https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/25/uk/drug-dealer-cheese-sentenced-scli-gbr-intl/index.html | May 26 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Drug dealer jailed after sharing a photo of cheese that included his fingerprints - CNN | May 26 07:44 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #ForeignPolicy #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Russia’s Surveillance State Struggles to Wean Itself Off the West https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/24/russia-surveillance-technology-western-companies-facial-recognition/ | May 26 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | Russia’s Surveillance State Struggles to Wean Itself Off Western-Made Components | May 26 07:44 | |
| techrights-bot | [Old] #LOC has a copy of #Groklaw - Digging for Truth https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0004282/ | May 26 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.loc.gov | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Library of Congress | May 26 07:46 | |
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| techrights-bot | The EPO’s War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law — Part 20: Summing up http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ #EPO #patents #corruption | May 26 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 20: Summing up | Techrights | May 26 08:00 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● [Old] ● #TheHayride ☞ At What Point Do We Realize #BillGates Is Dangerously Insane? https://thehayride.com/2021/02/at-what-point-do-we-realize-bill-gates-is-dangerously-insane/ | May 26 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehayride.com | At What Point Do We Realize Bill Gates Is Dangerously Insane? | May 26 08:11 | |
| techrights-bot | The Golden Decision http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/the-golden-one/ #epo #corruption #sweden #patents #kangaroocourts | May 26 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Golden Decision | Techrights | May 26 08:15 | |
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| techrights-bot | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/irc-log-250521/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/irc-log-250521/ | May 26 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 | Techrights | May 26 08:21 | |
| techrights-bot | "Not only has the opponent not (explicitly) consented to the use of VICO for oral proceedings before the EBA, but they have requested postponement of the proceedings scheduled for 28 May AND raised further objections to the composition of the EBA." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/epo-responds-to-accusations-of.html?showComment=1621961778265#c865505572110034784 | May 26 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO responds to accusations of perceived bias in G1/21 (ViCo oral proceedings) - The IPKat | May 26 08:23 | |
| techrights-bot | "It shouldn't have taken all that fuss for them to realise the non-impartiality situation." #epo #corruption #patents http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/epo-responds-to-accusations-of.html?showComment=1621965014438#c4980406205407819722 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ | May 26 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO responds to accusations of perceived bias in G1/21 (ViCo oral proceedings) - The IPKat | May 26 08:24 | |
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| schestowitz | gm, KindOne | May 26 09:01 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #VOANews ☞ Airlines Avoid Belarusian Airspace over Plane Diversion, Arrest of Journalist https://www.voanews.com/europe/airlines-avoid-belarusian-airspace-over-plane-diversion-arrest-journalist be sure to mention the #hypocrisy , due to #snowden and #bolivia | May 26 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Airlines Avoid Belarusian Airspace over Plane Diversion, Arrest of Journalist | Voice of America - English | May 26 09:04 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NPR ☞ 3 Reasons Why The Arrest Of A Journalist By #Belarus Is Troubling https://text.npr.org/1000008124 but US + #EU did this to #snowden ... for exposing crimes. | May 26 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | 3 Reasons Why The Arrest Of A Journalist By Belarus Is Troubling | May 26 09:04 | |
| techrights-bot | ">Air France, Finnair and Singapore Airlines became the latest carriers to suspend flights over #Belarus " https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210525-air-france-among-airlines-to-suspend-flights-over-belarus-after-plane-hijacking | May 26 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Air France among airlines suspending flights over Belarus as EU seeks to punish Minsk | May 26 09:04 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #France24 #burma ☞ US journalist detained in #Myanmar while trying to board flight home https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210525-us-journalist-detained-in-myanmar-while-trying-to-board-flight-home | May 26 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | US journalist detained in Myanmar while trying to board flight home | May 26 09:05 | |
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| techrights-bot | A half-hour video about the #epo is being uploaded right now. ETA 2 hours (it's about 200MB). | May 26 10:00 |
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| techrights-bot | I'd say that #techrights biggest contribution all in all is coordination and activism in the area of #patent #law rather than anything #freesw related, maybe because we're one of the few if not last remaining to properly do so | May 26 10:01 |
| techrights-bot | I was JUST about to record another long video about #freenode but then decided NOT to. Because 1) I don't want to 'bash' past volunteers ("staff") who kept the network going and 2) we need to move on. Any further bickering distracts us from real work and harms the #freesw cause. Move on, folks. Back to work! | May 26 10:03 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Employees Are Feeling Burned Over Broken Work-From-Home Promises As Employers Try To Bring Them Back To The Office https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210524/00353646857/employees-are-feeling-burned-over-broken-work-from-home-promises-as-employers-try-to-bring-them-back-to-office.shtml | May 26 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Employees Are Feeling Burned Over Broken Work-From-Home Promises As Employers Try To Bring Them Back To The Office | Techdirt | May 26 10:03 | |
| techrights-bot | In the company where I've worked for over a decade everyone started working from home last year in March, but there was never "back to the Office"... in fact, the Office was shut down permanently in July. We saw no need for it anymore. Many companies are the same, giving false promises based on hopes. | May 26 10:05 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft #windows TCO https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210525/12213846871/techdirt-podcast-episode-284-how-to-think-about-cybersecurity.shtml | May 26 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Techdirt Podcast Episode 284: How To Think About Cybersecurity | Techdirt | May 26 10:06 | |
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| techrights-bot | #epo scandal unfolding; two more days before the hearings start 'online'... it's illegal and we need to get people online 'involved', commenting and protesting this; EPO does NOT want people to watch this because the more people know, the more angry they become. See series: http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ | May 26 10:09 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM is a dying company. Quit while (or if) you can. http://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-cutting-redundant-jobs-is-permanent-business-model-says-email-2016-7 #redhat | May 26 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | IBM: Cutting 'Redundant' Jobs Is 'Permanent' Business Model, Says Email | May 26 10:10 | |
| techrights-bot | "Horrible Company #IBM ..I dedicated 20 years of service to them. I took callouts nonstop all hours also worked on shift whenever needed. After 20 years they moved me to another position then layed me off within 2 months" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IeTFjZS | May 26 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Leaked IBM email says cutting 'redundant' jobs is a 'permanent and ongoing' part of its business model - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 10:11 | |
| techrights-bot | "Garbage in...garbage out. IBM hires and fires. No lotalty to you as an employee. Youd be crazy to go there. You will not last a year." #ibm #layoffs rumoured to be announced tomorrow. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IeTFjZS | May 26 10:12 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM "Analytics and Clown reported small pockets of growth in the 'strategic areas' but overall they were down as well... which explains a lot of the recent RA activity there. If the finance people don't see the money rolling in to pay for all the work being done - they cut expense ( people ) until they reach the revenue/expense:profit ratio they are trying to maintain." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IeTFjZS | May 26 10:13 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM #layoffs accelerated since IBM sort of abandoned #freesw and #opendocument -type causes, choosing instead Ginny's hard-on for #apple ... "This is so true and so obvious - it's been like this since 2006 and after. It's all about cutting cost, and if you need to save a few thousands by letting go someone, you'll do it. The firm lost it's ability to plan for the future." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IeTFjZS | May 26 10:14 |
| techrights-bot | "The startup’s culture was upbeat with friendly coworkers and there is more work life balance than at IBM." #ibm is nowadays attacking the founder of #gnu #linux while sucking up to and propping up #microsoft ... how can we condone this?! https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV | May 26 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How do you cope in the new companies? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 10:16 | |
| techrights-bot | According to this, we can expect #ibm layoffs articles by week's end. A wave, not a trickle. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 26 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 10:18 | |
| techrights-bot | "Are they going to announce after the latest round of RAs are gone tomorrow?" #ibm is a state of turmoil, and I expect media (not those 'journalists' bribed by IBM for puff pieces and ads) to say something about it very soon. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b148I3m#replies | May 26 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WATSON HEALTH - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 10:19 | |
| techrights-bot | "Yes, don't be afraid to say no when you are legitimately too busy and remember to leave the feedback to #IBM when appropriate timing comes. And do it professionally and constructively. My old manager is now axed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0HGzQZ#replies | May 26 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How to prioritize work when everything is urgent? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 10:20 | |
| techrights-bot | While #thelayoff boards for #ibm are mostly rumours and unverified hearsay they often turn out to be true, and they're mostly composed by insiders and former insiders. In #techrights we don't cover gossip, but it helps to know in advance what announcements are in the pipeline. #redhat impacted. | May 26 10:22 |
| techrights-bot | The announcement from #canonical or #ubuntu saying leave #freenode is composed by someone who lobbied to CANCEL the #fsf or the founder of #gnu #linux ... and published in the official blog by a Microsoft booster (now inside Canonical). | May 26 10:23 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is NOT your friend. #rms is, even if you don't know it (yet) http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | May 26 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | May 26 10:24 | |
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| cow_2001 | uh | May 26 10:26 |
| cow_2001 | absolutely not. lee's a cunt. | May 26 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | ? | May 26 10:27 |
| schestowitz | come in | May 26 10:27 |
| schestowitz | insukt | May 26 10:27 |
| schestowitz | leave | May 26 10:27 |
| schestowitz | how tame | May 26 10:27 |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Sale of Pirate Streaming Devices Declared Illegal By #Malaysia IP High Court https://torrentfreak.com/sale-of-pirate-streaming-devices-declared-illegal-by-malaysia-ip-high-court-210525/ | May 26 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sale of Pirate Streaming Devices Declared Illegal By Malaysia IP High Court * TorrentFreak | May 26 10:39 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Scammers Use European Union Website to Promote Pirate Streaming Portals https://torrentfreak.com/scammers-use-european-union-website-to-promote-pirate-streaming-210525/ | May 26 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scammers Use European Union Website to Promote Pirate Streaming Portals * TorrentFreak | May 26 10:39 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ Hide a huge arcade machine in plain sight with Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/hide-a-huge-arcade-machine-in-plain-sight-with-raspberry-pi/ | May 26 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Hide a huge arcade machine in plain sight with Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi | May 26 10:46 | |
| techrights-bot | 10 Most Used #GNULinux Distributions of All Time • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151610 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Most Used Linux Distributions of All Time | Tux Machines | May 26 10:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Use #Ubuntu System Monitor • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151609 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Use Ubuntu System Monitor | Tux Machines | May 26 10:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #Foliate – simple and modern #GTK eBook viewer • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151608 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Foliate – simple and modern GTK eBook viewer | Tux Machines | May 26 10:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #CANPico open-source board adds CAN Bus to #RaspberryPi Pico • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151607 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CANPico open-source board adds CAN Bus to Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines | May 26 10:58 | |
| techrights-bot | iophk: removal of #Microsoft products from the work place ought to be a G7 agenda item https://risky.biz/HF11/ | May 26 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-risky.biz | Risky Biz Feature Podcast: The politics of cybersecurity - Risky Business | May 26 11:05 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Monopolies ☞ DC Attorney General Sues #Amazon for Alleged Monopolistic #PriceFixing https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/25/dc-attorney-general-sues-amazon-alleged-monopolistic-price-fixing | May 26 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | DC Attorney General Sues Amazon for Alleged Monopolistic Price-Fixing | Common Dreams News | May 26 11:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▂▅▄▅▅▄▄▅▃▂▃▅▅▃▅▄▅▅▄▃▄▂▆▃▃▄▆▇▁▄▅▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 21.68 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁█▂▂▁▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▁▂▂█▂▃▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 39.26▕ swarm size (avg): 230.87 ⟲ | May 26 11:16 |
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| techrights-bot | "I did the same last month... #IBM is c r a p. I would encourage more IBMers to look elsewhere, The job market is great at this point, it is a good time to switch companies." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ign7H#replies | May 26 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I'm about to hand in my resignation - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 11:27 | |
| techrights-bot | "Now, I can already hear some IBMers commenting that they are overworked... that is BS!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV#replies | May 26 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How do you cope in the new companies? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 11:28 | |
| techrights-bot | "it is all about claim codes at IBM... don't do any work unless you can charge it... it does not matter if it is an internal or external claim code. No claim code = no work." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1e1jQd#replies | May 26 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Show everything you know? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 11:29 | |
| techrights-bot | " #IBM will end up only as a mainframe company... Once the Execs figure out that Red Hat is not working out, they will jettison it for some $$$. Then they will tell you they just re-invented the IBM company as THE mainframe company!!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1CiCSx#replies | May 26 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Systems is next NewCo - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 11:29 | |
| *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights | May 26 11:37 | |
| techrights-bot | They Don't Want Us to Hear... http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/to-hear-in-haar/ #haar #munich #corruption #epo #patents | May 26 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Don’t Want Us to Hear… | Techrights | May 26 11:45 | |
| techrights-bot | The #litigation treadmill, including lawyers who promote European #softwarepatents , may have fully taken control of the courts that decide on such matters through #Josefsson and his circle • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ | May 26 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 20: Summing up | Techrights | May 26 11:47 | |
| techrights-bot | Pure gold, a heavy metal, guides the gavel of the judge from #Sweden and his peanut gallery which undermines justice The Golden Decision • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/the-golden-one/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #boa #haar | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/the-golden-one/ | May 26 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Golden Decision | Techrights | May 26 11:48 | |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151612 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 11:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #HarmonyOS is now been confirmed to launch in early June • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151611 #TuxMachines | May 26 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HarmonyOS is now been confirmed to launch in early June | Tux Machines | May 26 11:50 | |
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| techrights-bot | The rushed hearings in Haar (actually, not even #Haar but people’s homes, facilitated by American companies that spy) will commence in a couple of days http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/to-hear-in-haar/ #epo #corruption #patents #surveillance | May 26 11:55 |
| techrights-bot | "This is the problem. It beggars belief that Mr Josefsson thought it might be appropriate for him to sit on the board in this case. The decision has already been made." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/epo-responds-to-accusations-of.html?showComment=1622022839702#c5495570852359357958 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/to-hear-in-haar/ | May 26 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO responds to accusations of perceived bias in G1/21 (ViCo oral proceedings) - The IPKat | May 26 11:56 | |
| techrights-bot | Pushing the racist lie that countries cannot produce their own #vaccines using the knowledge and #patent waivers. Probably posted by some #patents person, who profits from the monopolistic cartel. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/vaccine-platforms-and-limited-global.html?showComment=1622025121450#c1016231846038170161 | May 26 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Vaccine platforms and limited global production capacity: what is to be done? - The IPKat | May 26 11:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is dead man walking https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/26/ibm_cloud_multiple_outages/ | May 26 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM Cloud resets ‘Days Since Last Major Incident’ clock to zero – after just five days • The Register | May 26 12:00 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm : "I'm about to hand in my resignation" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ign7H comments to come. This is less than an hour old. | May 26 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I'm about to hand in my resignation - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 12:01 | |
| techrights-bot | Where this week's #ibm #layoffs are expected to hit: https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 26 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 12:02 | |
| techrights-bot | "Never handle more than a single task at the time. Man was never built to multi-task." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0HGzQZ#replies | May 26 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How to prioritize work when everything is urgent? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 12:03 | |
| saint_dogbert | hola | May 26 12:04 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is 'headless chicken' corporation. Ask insiders. They know... | May 26 12:05 |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: ola | May 26 12:05 |
| saint_dogbert | How goes it, sir? | May 26 12:05 |
| techrights-bot | The latest edit/commit in the petition to destory the #fsf by ousting #rms and everyone who supports RMS was a month ago. #ibm employee. | May 26 12:06 |
| schestowitz | good, saint_dogbert | May 26 12:06 |
| schestowitz | we hope for more calm and focus | May 26 12:06 |
| saint_dogbert | Understood... no hot topics from me today then :D | May 26 12:07 |
| techrights-bot | There's no such thing as "patent rights" (they are not rights), it seems like a series of 'plugs' for advertisers (law firms), but at least Amy Sandys isn't just copy-pasting #TeamUPC lies for now, and not just copy-pasting the whole "news" section of #EPO management anymore. #Journalism is in a dreadful, appalling state. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/negotiating-borders-the-uk-patent-m | May 26 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Negotiating borders: the UK patent market on life after Lugano - JUVE Patent | May 26 12:09 | |
| techrights-bot | Billionaire-owned media (Murdoch) as megaphone for the #patent #cartel instead of voice for the ill and powerless https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-makers-press-countries-to-oppose-patent-waiver-11622021402 see https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | May 26 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid-19 Vaccine Makers Press Countries to Oppose Patent Waiver - WSJ | May 26 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation | May 26 12:11 | |
| techrights-bot | Filed under "article", but it's not an article but a stream of self-promotional, self-serving lies from "Chloe Flower on behalf of The Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys." #CIPA promotes criminals like #Battistelli to advance an illegal treaty. #TheChemicalEngineer is clearly a #propaganda outlet, not for chemical engineers but for predators. https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/protecting-intellectual-pr | May 26 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/protecting-intellectual-pro ) | May 26 12:14 | |
| techrights-bot | How many times last year did Charlotte Kilpatrick promote 'junk' #patents by means of advancing intentional lies from #TeamUPC h We've lost count... but xenophobic race-baiting suits them better. As if the lawless #EPO is any better than #China any longer. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s01d1hb3d7lx/end-of-china-subsidy-will-mean-fewer-junk-patents | May 26 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | End of China subsidy will mean fewer ‘junk’ patents | Managing Intellectual Property | May 26 12:17 | |
| techrights-bot | How about this for ‘junk’ #patents from #EPO h https://techrights.org/2018/08/27/adding-a-window-to-a-room/ | May 26 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Stupid European Patent: Hairdressing Salon and Mobile Building for the Same | Techrights | May 26 12:18 | |
| schestowitz | [12:07] <saint_dogbert> Understood... no hot topics from me today then :D | May 26 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I take that as a clue that you were going to comment on some Internet protocol ;-) | May 26 12:19 |
| saint_dogbert | eh, just discussing what may be in the near future for the USA with someone in here last night | May 26 12:20 |
| saint_dogbert | so figured its better to leave that topic at the door today :D | May 26 12:20 |
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| techrights-bot | LOL. Now there are #patents on #POOP collection. Stay classy... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-crappy-problem-tel-aviv-hasn-t-been-able-to-solve-for-80-years-1.9813913 | May 26 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new smear campaign could solve an 80-year-old Tel Aviv problem - Israel News - Haaretz.com | May 26 12:21 | |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: ah, I see... | May 26 12:22 |
| schestowitz | well, I wait for the whole 'IRC war' to blow over | May 26 12:22 |
| schestowitz | and we can all get back to coding and stuff | May 26 12:22 |
| saint_dogbert | Hopefully its either on cease fire or at an end now | May 26 12:23 |
| techrights-bot | Malicious and dishonest #patent law firms can't help themselves; they keep borrowing meaningless buzzwords like "Hey Hi" to leverage shallow spin for illegal #swpats or #softwarepatents https://blog.dennemeyer.com/the-impact-of-digitalization-automation-and-ai-on-intellectual-property " the effects of automation and AI." Oh, hi! HEY HI! | May 26 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dennemeyer.com | The impact of digitalization, automation and AI on Intellectual Property | May 26 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: no posts I can see in RSS feeds so far today | May 26 12:25 |
| schestowitz | so it's cooling down | May 26 12:25 |
| schestowitz | FSF will discuss it later today | May 26 12:26 |
| schestowitz | PIA was the FSF's biggest sponsor last year https://www.fsf.org/patrons/fy2020 | May 26 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | May 26 12:26 | |
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| techrights-bot | Media Colluding With #EPO Autocrats Who Break the Law, Aiming to Mislead the Public http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/epo-g1-21/ #corruption #munich #de #patents | May 26 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Colluding With EPO Autocrats Who Break the Law, Aiming to Mislead the Public | Techrights | May 26 12:53 | |
| techrights-bot | EPO's words are revealing. They already know the outcome of the case, with the kangaroo court set up MONTHS in advance. See article and video in http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/to-hear-in-haar/ | May 26 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Don’t Want Us to Hear… | Techrights | May 26 12:54 | |
| techrights-bot | Courts outsourced to the US in order for them to decide whether courts being outsourced to the US are a legally valid construct. Let that sink in… • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/epo-g1-21/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #patents #europe #corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/epo-g1-21/ | May 26 13:03 |
| techrights-bot | Gabriel Cánepa seems to think that publishing 'new' article means changing the date of an article from 3 years ago, then RE-posting. Sign. #tecmint keeps doing this... https://www.tecmint.com/linux-distributions/ | May 26 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 10 Most Used Linux Distributions of All Time | May 26 13:04 | |
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| techrights-bot | #canonical and Mark S (MS) in particular should be careful not to put #ubuntu in the hands of people whose unhidden objective is to demolish the #fsf and CANCEL the very FOUNDER of the #gnu #linux operating system. Because that's what's happening... | May 26 13:06 |
| techrights-bot | The faster method has something to do with a toilet bowl and a handle that flushes 10 litres of water https://www.maketecheasier.com/remotely-disable-apple-pay/ | May 26 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Remotely Disable Apple Pay - Make Tech Easier | May 26 13:07 | |
| techrights-bot | mintCast 361.5 - X2Joe - mintCast ⚓ https://mintcast.org/2021/05/26/mintcast-361-5-x2joe/ ䷉ #mintcast #gnu #linux | May 26 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | mintCast 361.5 – X2Joe – mintCast | May 26 13:08 | |
| techrights-bot | #berrybrew version 1.34 released! http://blogs.perl.org/users/steve_bertrand/2021/05/berrybrew-version-134-released.html #perl #programming | May 26 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berrybrew version 1.34 released! | Steve Bertrand [blogs.perl.org] | May 26 13:09 | |
| techrights-bot | #SteamPal – Valve’s New Take on Handheld PCs in 2021? https://boilingsteam.com/steampal-valves-new-handheld-pc/ hopefully will be #gnu #linux based just like #steamOS which is basically #debian with DRM added | May 26 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | SteamPal - Valve's New Take on Handheld PCs in 2021? - Boiling Steam | May 26 13:12 | |
| techrights-bot | " #IBM Cloud has now had ten significant issues (since April 3)" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b21spuI | May 26 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Cloud resets ‘Days Since Last Major Incident’ clock to zero – after just five days - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 13:14 | |
| techrights-bot | "WAIT don't do it yet - wait a few days to see if you get RA with package. Free money if you are already heading out the door." #ibm #layoffs with compensation, says this comment, may be days ago. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ign7H | May 26 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I'm about to hand in my resignation - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 13:15 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▆▃▄▄▆▃▂▃▁▅▆▃▁▁▂▄▅▆▅▄▅▅▃▃▃▃▄█▄▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.01 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁█▁▂▂▁██▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▃█▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 53.36▕ swarm size (avg): 230.91 ⟲ | May 26 13:16 |
| techrights-bot | #fedora "clown". Now they call #gnu #linux distros after buzzwords and hype. Remember when Fedora (Moonshine IIRC, version 14) was a flying baloon? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Cloud-35-Btrfs-Default | May 26 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Cloud 35 Looking To Use The Btrfs File-System By Default - Phoronix | May 26 13:17 | |
| techrights-bot | #fedora "clown". Now they call #gnu #linux distros after buzzwords and hype. Remember when Fedora (Moonshine IIRC, version 14) was a flying balloon? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Cloud-35-Btrfs-Default | May 26 13:17 |
| techrights-bot | More "clown" this morning https://opensource.com/article/21/5/shellhub-new-features #redhat #ibm | May 26 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 exciting new ShellHub features to look for in 2021 | Opensource.com | May 26 13:18 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat writing about three-letter (read: grossly overpaid) job titles more than technical stuff. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/5/digital-transformation-11-skills-cios-need | May 26 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 11 skills CIOs need to get it done | The Enterprisers Project | May 26 13:19 | |
| techrights-bot | #Btrfs vs #Ext4 - Functionalities, Strengths, and Weaknesses ⚓ https://linoxide.com/btrfs-vs-ext4/ ䷉ #linoxide #linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/26/#latest | May 26 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linoxide.com | Btrfs vs Ext4 - Functionalities, Strengths, and Weaknesses | May 26 13:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 26 13:21 | |
| techrights-bot | "The #BLAKE3 high performance crypto hashing function that is much speedier than MD5, SHA-1/SHA-2/SHA-3, and the former #BLAKE2 , is nearing its v1.0 release for its official Rust and C implementations." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BLAKE3-1.0-Coming | May 26 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BLAKE3 Cryptographic Hash Implementation Preparing For v1.0 Release - Phoronix | May 26 13:22 | |
| techrights-bot | Instead of helping to cure #cancer the #EPO just keeps dishing out more #monopolies https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/26/2236375/0/en/Immutep-Granted-Chinese-Patent-For-Eftilagimod-Alpha-In-Chemo-Immunotherapy-Combination.html see http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ | May 26 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Immutep Granted Chinese Patent For Eftilagimod Alpha In | May 26 13:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPO’s Management – Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights | May 26 13:24 | |
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| techrights-bot | How I monitor my greenhouse with #CircuitPython and open source tools | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/5/monitor-greenhouse-open-source ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM | May 26 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I monitor my greenhouse with CircuitPython and open source tools | Opensource.com | May 26 13:26 | |
| techrights-bot | #BigBlueButton with Two Ways Screen Sharing ⚓ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/05/bigbluebutton-with-two-ways-screen-sharing.html ䷉ #UbuntuBuzz #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/26/#latest | May 26 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | BigBlueButton with Two Ways Screen Sharing | May 26 13:27 | |
| techrights-bot | Red Hat 1990s: engineering/engineers 2000s: users 2010: user experience (UX cargo cult, even if #systemd does nothing for users) 2021: CUSTOMER experience: https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/5/how-measure-customer-experience-3-tips | May 26 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to measure customer experience: 3 tips | The Enterprisers Project | May 26 13:28 | |
| techrights-bot | Theory: #microsoft #qualcomm media spam earlier this week timed/designed to distract from something like this? https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/26/armv9-cores-cortex-a510-cortex-a710-cortex-x2/ | May 26 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | First Armv9 cores unveiled - Cortex-A510, Cortex-A710, Cortex-X2 - CNX Software | May 26 13:29 | |
| techrights-bot | Gemini reverse proxy https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006579.html taking #geminiProtocol to the next level. #geminiSpace #internet | May 26 13:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] Gemini reverse proxy | May 26 13:31 | |
| techrights-bot | "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,715 people. Still growing. #rms #fsf #FailedCoup #freesw #gnu | May 26 13:32 |
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| smnthermes | https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/05/26/gentoo-freenode-channels-hijacked.html | May 26 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo.org | Gentoo Freenode channels have been hijacked – Gentoo Linux | May 26 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | gm, smnthermes | May 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | they already left freenode | May 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | let's see what they moan about... I am guessing they close their channels there | May 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | and then they're shocked someone else took over | May 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | good luck with that | May 26 13:42 |
| schestowitz | days ago they warned about impersonators | May 26 13:43 |
| schestowitz | by leaving freenode they have made things worse | May 26 13:43 |
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| techrights-bot | LOL. People who already (and ALL ALONG) said bad things about #freenode are now trying to stir up drama and act all shocked and surprised by the negative feedback. They have their own interests to peddle... | May 26 13:55 |
| techrights-bot | #google : #FuchsiaOS is for spying devices. If you hear #Fuchsia think of it as dogwhistle for "WE SPY". | May 26 13:56 |
| techrights-bot | #gentoo adds to unnecessary drama. Well, they had already left #Freenode and then they're shocked someone else took over; days ago they warned about impersonators and by leaving Freenode they have made things worse | May 26 13:59 |
| alextee[m] | well my channel was hijacked as well, and many others like #gcc #riscv etc. | May 26 14:00 |
| alextee[m] | and the matrix bridges in 300+ channels including mine are now broken | May 26 14:00 |
| techrights-bot | "The web team at Canonical run two-week iterations building and maintaining all of #Canonical websites and product web interfaces." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-26-may-2021 #ubuntu | May 26 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Design and Web team summary – 26 May 2021 | Ubuntu | May 26 14:00 | |
| alextee[m] | there was no reason to do that and whoever was neutral about freenode will doesn't have much choice left now | May 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | wait, which network? | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | * there was no reason to do that and whoever was neutral about freenode doesn't have much choice left now | May 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | libera or freenode? | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | the channels were hijacked on freenode | May 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | by staff? | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | any channel that contained the string "libera" in the topic | May 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | or did they leave first? | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | yes | May 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | and then someone else stepped in? | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | 700 or so channels i hear | May 26 14:01 |
| alextee[m] | they didn't leave, they just said "we are moving to libera chat" in the topic, like mine | May 26 14:02 |
| alextee[m] | and many of them had a grace period | May 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz | so they left and directed people elsewhere? | May 26 14:02 |
| alextee[m] | some of them didn't leave | May 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see? | May 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz | so what you say is, mention libera and then you lose the channel? | May 26 14:02 |
| alextee[m] | some channels were planning to move later | May 26 14:02 |
| alextee[m] | and this move by freenode now just disrupted that | May 26 14:02 |
| alextee[m] | <schestowitz "so what you say is, mention libe"> yes that's what happened | May 26 14:03 |
| alextee[m] | any channel that had "libera" in the t opic was hijacked and closed | May 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | can you send me some evidence? | May 26 14:03 |
| alextee[m] | here's a screenshot from mine | May 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | tasteless if true | May 26 14:03 |
| *alextee[m] uploaded an image: (48KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ThwVDmGRQjYvdNyYxdHVeIoF/Screenshot%20from%202021-05-26%2005-02-43.png > | May 26 14:03 | |
| schestowitz | alextee[m]: thanks, waiting | May 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz | ok | May 26 14:03 |
| alextee[m] | more evidence about the bridges: https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix/106301209504019485 | May 26 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.matrix.org | Matrix.org: "Freenode has put redirects in place on >325 chann…" - Matrix.org's Mastodon | May 26 14:04 | |
| alextee[m] | (which affected my channel as well) | May 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz | rasengan: any comment? | May 26 14:04 |
| downey[m] | https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 | May 26 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-irc-drama-and-goodbye.md · GitHub | May 26 14:05 | |
| schestowitz | I heard it was done by "both sides", but either way freenode should not stoop down to this... | May 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz | downey[m]: this was mentioned here twice before | May 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz | anyway, all this tit-for-tat is hard to follow | May 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz | it's harming everything | May 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz | which is why I try not to write any articles about this anymore | May 26 14:07 |
| downey[m] | Rushing to judgement tends to end up that way ... | May 26 14:08 |
| alextee[m] | so what https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/05/26/gentoo-freenode-channels-hijacked.html is saying is correct, the channels did get hijacked in the way shown in my screenshot | May 26 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo.org | Gentoo Freenode channels have been hijacked – Gentoo Linux | May 26 14:08 | |
| techrights-bot | "No surprise there... the IBM Cloud is inferior to all other clouds." Has #ibm not managed to retain #redhat talent? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b21spuI#replies | May 26 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Cloud resets ‘Days Since Last Major Incident’ clock to zero – after just five days - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 14:08 | |
| alextee[m] | there's more on mastodon if you search by the #freenode tag | May 26 14:08 |
| alextee[m] | https://mastodon.social/web/timelines/tag/freenode | May 26 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | #freenode - Mastodon | May 26 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | I don't use social control media to get news | May 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | it's noise, not news | May 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz | not that "news sites" are that much more reliable | May 26 14:09 |
| alextee[m] | there's a lot of screenshots there though | May 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | gentoo declared leaving freenode about 2 DAYS ago | May 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | which means the freenode channels were rendered placeholders | May 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | or rather legacy | May 26 14:09 |
| alextee[m] | some communities wanted to give users time to migrate | May 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz | yeah, understandable | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe they should have thought about leaping | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | and what it means to turn channels into mere pointers | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | with everyone on nute | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | *mute | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | anyway, huge clusterfsck | May 26 14:10 |
| alextee[m] | well now the channels are mere pointers to their ## counterparts on freenode with mute | May 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz | we've averted this | May 26 14:10 |
| alextee[m] | so users stuck there won't be redirected to libera | May 26 14:10 |
| downey[m] | I always understood that once you took your garbage out to the street, your ownership over it was surrendered | May 26 14:11 |
| alextee[m] | as the community owners intended | May 26 14:11 |
| baronhk[m] | "In the US, the Second Amendment provides that American citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents have the right to bear arms, as do most state constitutions, including the one of the state of Illinois. | May 26 14:11 |
| baronhk[m] | None of them hint that it would be lawful to restrict this right in any manner, but the federal courts have upheld that the federal and state governments have the right to bar people who are convicted felons or are subject to a restraining order. | May 26 14:11 |
| baronhk[m] | Unfortunately, getting a restraining order is comically simple in the United States. In fact, a woman in Nevada was able to get one against David Letterman once because she believed that he was sending her coded messages through her television set. Under the federal “Violence Against Women Act”, David Letterman couldn’t own a firearm until the restraining order ended. What’s wrong with this picture?" | May 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | and moreover the only downside is that some people I could DM before are no longer on this network | May 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | but few | May 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | some are on both networks | May 26 14:11 |
| baronhk[m] | My lead in to the new blog post I'm writing about the dangers of "gun control". | May 26 14:11 |
| alextee[m] | the only freenode channel I'm in is this one and I'm only here through matrix | May 26 14:11 |
| alextee[m] | I don't plan to use freenode again | May 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz | that's ok | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | anyway, we need stability | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | all that fighting is harmful | May 26 14:12 |
| alextee[m] | would be interesting to see what fsf/gnu decide | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | nobody will win | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | alextee[m]: meeting later todaty | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | crystalmath will be there | May 26 14:12 |
| alextee[m] | I thought it was tomorrow | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | 27/5 | May 26 14:12 |
| schestowitz | even if you are in hawaii, its today | May 26 14:13 |
| baronhk[m] | Ooops, New Mexico, not Nevada. Remembered it wrong. | May 26 14:13 |
| alextee[m] | Thursday, May 27 from 13:00-14:30 EDT (17:00-18:30 UTC) | May 26 14:13 |
| baronhk[m] | Plus, CNN was the source and they deleted the article, but the Wayback Machine has it. | May 26 14:13 |
| alextee[m] | it's 26 today lol | May 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | ah, my bad... | May 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe I saw it after midnight and misread | May 26 14:13 |
| schestowitz | https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8514.html | May 26 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Disconnecting from Freenode | May 26 14:14 | |
| schestowitz | but right from the get-go he spoke out against freenode | May 26 14:14 |
| cybrNaut | baronhk[m]> My lead in to the new blog post I'm writing about the dangers of "gun control". <= LOL. much easier to write about the dangers of gun uncontrol | May 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | from day 0 | May 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | also tried to cancel Torvalds and RMS | May 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Ian is too opinionated even by my opinionated standards | May 26 14:14 |
| schestowitz | cybrNaut: it's like "pro-life" | May 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | they invert the argument | May 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | from pro-choice, or pro-women | May 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | (letting women decide about their bodies) | May 26 14:15 |
| schestowitz | what they mean by life is semen glued to an egg | May 26 14:15 |
| cybrNaut | yeah every side has to market itself. I find pro-forced-birth more accurate than "pro-life", considering the same ppl who call themselves "pro-life" tend to oppose public healthcare, gun control, welfare, asylum, ... things that actually promote life | May 26 14:17 |
| cybrNaut | probably most pro-lifers aren't wearing masks either.. that would be an interesting study | May 26 14:18 |
| techrights-bot | Locking #USPTO Patent Filings into #Microsoft with DOCX https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/05/26/0514222 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ | May 26 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Locking USPTO Patent Filings into Microsoft with DOCX - SoylentNews | May 26 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software | Techrights | May 26 14:18 | |
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| baronhk[m] | "Restraining orders are not hard to get. In fact, courts issue millions of them every year. The majority are against men, and usually as a matter of process ("justice as an assembly line") rather than a decision made by a judge that is grounded in the facts of the case. Divorce lawyers, perhaps the most unscrupulous type, hit men with them strategically while they help their cheating ex-wives (or husbands, it's the | May 26 14:20 |
| baronhk[m] | future!) strip them of their assets and run off with their children." | May 26 14:20 |
| cybrNaut | oh, and the same "pro-life" people tend to have little interest in environmental protection.. they are the opposite of pro-life in most respects | May 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | agreed | May 26 14:21 |
| schestowitz | pro-gun | May 26 14:22 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ 70% of Americans Say Arms Sales Make Us Less Safe. We're the World's Top Dealer. https://truthout.org/articles/70-of-americans-say-arms-sales-make-us-less-safe-were-the-worlds-top-dealer/ | May 26 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | 70% of Americans Say Arms Sales Make Us Less Safe. We're the World's Top Dealer. | May 26 14:22 | |
| kakama | pro life just means pro birth for some reason | May 26 14:25 |
| kakama | >you have to have the baby God wills it | May 26 14:25 |
| kakama | >how dare you ask for handouts you lazy [racebait here] | May 26 14:25 |
| kakama | say what you will about the Mormons but they are ideologically consistant and one of the only 'right wing' groups I find that is (in quotes because left/right dichotomy is not real lmao) | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | I've long thought of 'pro-life' differently | May 26 14:26 |
| kakama | Mormons are against abortion but they do support the idea of safety nets and parental support and whatnot | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | men who want to get a women 'stuck' with them | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | by getting her drunk | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | getting her pregnant | May 26 14:26 |
| kakama | though partly because half the mormons are on welfare since they have 8 kids each | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | and then make it illegal for her to press "sbort" | May 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz | *abort | May 26 14:27 |
| alextee[m] | what is it called if you're pro-life with the exception of rape? (although I can see people claiming lots of non-rape things are rape) | May 26 14:27 |
| kakama | yeah schestowitz and traditional patriarchial 'she is mine now' views surely encourage that, though it's definitely a two way street since there are also women who play the baby trap card | May 26 14:27 |
| kakama | anyone can poke holes in a condom ayyy trick as old as time | May 26 14:28 |
| techrights-bot | "Since it's coming from Slimbook, you can expect full Linux support and you can buy it with #GNU #Linux pre-installed." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/slimbook-think-they-have-the-one-for-you-with-their-new-compact-mini-pc | May 26 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slimbook think they have the 'One' for you with their new compact mini-PC | GamingOnLinux | May 26 14:28 | |
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| kakama | I need an irssi solution for url copying | May 26 14:28 |
| kakama | since I have nicklist on the right and channels on the left with tmux | May 26 14:29 |
| techrights-bot | "So no Early Access or Beta versions but we will be seeing the proper finished experience supported on Linux." #gnu #linux #gaming https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/starcrawlers-chimera-is-a-new-upcoming-first-person-cyberpunk-dungeon-crawler | May 26 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-StarCrawlers Chimera is a new upcoming first-person cyberpunk dungeon crawler | GamingOnLinux | May 26 14:29 | |
| kakama | maybe something like hilightwin but a whole full-terminal-width pane below the chat window, or above, that just pops out a copy of any link posted in any channel | May 26 14:29 |
| kakama | so I can actually ctrl+click it or something | May 26 14:30 |
| kakama | political parties are a cult and not ever really ideologically consistant | May 26 14:31 |
| techrights-bot | This did NOT age well. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5d49b129-7461-455c-a633-d12366106cb0 #upc is dead, so the #law firms sold many people a lie, a fiction http://techrights.org/wiki/Unitary_Patent | May 26 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using the UPC to your benefit in pharmaceuticals and life sciences - Lexology | May 26 14:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unitary Patent - Techrights | May 26 14:32 | |
| kakama | the powers that be could easily have engineered the narrative that 'left' is pro-gun (as guns balance the playing field for women, gays, disenfranchized, weak, etc, and do not rely on untrustworthy police) but instead it's 'right' | May 26 14:32 |
| kakama | used to be universal issue but associating it with one of the puppet show character teams allows gun rights to be attacked more easily | May 26 14:32 |
| kakama | I suppose the current meta is that one party is more 'personal responsibility reduced government regulation' and the other is 'social responsibility with government set up to protect' | May 26 14:33 |
| schestowitz | would the above chat get us banned from libera? (not joking) | May 26 14:34 |
| schestowitz | I saw them passing all sorts of trigger-tight policies | May 26 14:34 |
| schestowitz | and then boasting about "Safety" and such... or maybe I misunderstood what was said | May 26 14:34 |
| kakama | but you can't really say Red Team is against government interference in general, just bring up something like trannies getting hormones and watch them scream out for the government to protect us | May 26 14:34 |
| kakama | schestowitz: historically I've never just let my mouth run on freenode because the ircops were absolute dickbags and disagreeing with them can easily become 'u were doing the h8 speech' | May 26 14:35 |
| kakama | freechode has always been the reddit of irc, or the PC-irc, in my mind at least | May 26 14:36 |
| kingoffrance | kakama, some places guns are "left" -- because they dont like cops. so make everyone armed, everyone is equal | May 26 14:36 |
| kingoffrance | agree left and right is just noise | May 26 14:36 |
| kakama | I was kind of hopeful that when the Crown Prince took over since the lame ircops ran off to Liberia freenode would be cool | May 26 14:36 |
| kakama | I fully expect to get b& from Liberia at some point if I talk openly so I only use it to talk to my dc group | May 26 14:37 |
| kingoffrance | or, its just ever-shifting goalposts "not ideologically consistent" yep | May 26 14:37 |
| kakama | and even that, I know a member of our hackerspace who got a 'u were being naughty on irc plz don't come back' letter so I always expect a dramabomb to go off at any moment | May 26 14:38 |
| kakama | yea kingoffrance it's a soap opera to entertain the masses with the illusion of choice | May 26 14:38 |
| kakama | I do know a lot of modern lefties that are getting to be pretty pro-gun | May 26 14:38 |
| kakama | I open carry for political reasons because I don't look like stereotype gun owner and it gets conversations going | May 26 14:39 |
| kakama | I am someone that looks very american-left-wing so people feel comfortable talking to me, and I have found lately that many left-leaning types are getting into guns, record firearm sales lastyear for new gun owners etc | May 26 14:39 |
| kakama | so I already haev prepared schpeels about the origins of gun control in Prohibition and how current drug prohibition is an extension of that in terms of gun crime creator, and the racist origins of other gun control legislation | May 26 14:40 |
| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151613 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 14:41 |
| kakama | if we can collectively undo the psyops gimmick to turn guns into one of the political talking points we can protect our rights since it won't be kicked around like a football every election | May 26 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 26 14:41 | |
| techrights-bot | #Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading #Ubuntu ISO via Torrent • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines | May 26 14:41 | |
| kakama | I'm not left or right I'm cross eye dominant and shoot pistols ambi | May 26 14:41 |
| kakama | while I don't believe in the council of 300 type conspiracy I know someone who strongly did, and I found the general concept of puppetering to sound accurate | May 26 14:42 |
| techrights-bot | "A new report on the rumored Valve #SteamPal suggests that the portable gaming PC will be larger than the Nintendo Switch and run on Linux." https://www.vg247.com/2021/05/26/steampal-prototype-linux-switch-report/ | May 26 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SteamPal prototype is larger than Nintendo Switch, will run Linux - report - VG247 | May 26 14:43 | |
| kakama | that being, say the Powers That Be want to pass 10 different laws. Left wing is pro 5 of them and against 5 of them, same for Right wing, the issues being almost arbitrarily divided between each team based more on what markets good than any ideological cohesion | May 26 14:43 |
| kakama | so now every 4 years we have big battle and 2 years a miniboss fight where people believe they are struggling against Other Side to protect the good path forward, and one team gets majority and starts to pass their laws and repeal others | May 26 14:44 |
| kakama | regardless of which team is in control at the time, the laws being passed may all be consistant with the agenda of the powers-that-be, but it APPEARS as though My Team is winning the struggle against Their Team | May 26 14:44 |
| baronhk[m] | "In fact, they say they want to remove stigma of mental illness, or at least Democrats do, but then they further stigmatize it, when research shows that almost no mass shooters are actually mentally ill in the sense of anything covered by the DSM. In fact, it's often just some toxic man who can't get anyone to have sex with him. Which is not in the DSM. Should the DSM be updated? I think it should be, but that doesn't | May 26 14:45 |
| baronhk[m] | change the facts." | May 26 14:45 |
| kakama | illusion of choice via a puppet show, a donkey and elephant fighting and the country clapping like happy children that don't realize the left and right hands are attached to the same person sitting behind a wall | May 26 14:45 |
| kakama | >no mass shooters are covered by DSM | May 26 14:45 |
| kakama | idk if that is true at all | May 26 14:45 |
| kakama | there's some really dumb memes around mass shooters, like that they're all terrorists working for I.N.C.E.L. or loner-white-guys | May 26 14:46 |
| kakama | scroll down the list of them and it's so many people for so many reasons, of every race colour creed | May 26 14:46 |
| kakama | you got radical christians and radical muslims, disgruntled former employees, lover's quarrels gone amock | May 26 14:47 |
| kakama | why in 2019 I think it was you had a black male-female couple shoot up a Jewish district | May 26 14:47 |
| kakama | how you gonna categorize that one? | May 26 14:47 |
| techrights-bot | BUSINESS: Biden backs waiving vaccine patents. Is climate tech next? -- Wednesday, May 26, 2021 -- www.eenews.net ⚓ https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063733517 ䷉ #eenews might point out #epo lies about so-called #greentech by saying #patent #monopolies help | May 26 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BUSINESS: Biden backs waiving vaccine patents. Is climate tech next? -- Wednesday, May 26, 2021 -- www.eenews.net | May 26 14:48 | |
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| kakama | the common theme is only that they have been infected with a deadly uncontained meme | May 26 14:48 |
| kakama | per earlier rants on advancements in communication creating more rapid hard to control memetic spread, and the algos don't really stop it so much as make the evolution happen faster and in weird vaccums | May 26 14:48 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151615 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 26 14:48 | |
| baronhk[m] | "And, on the subject of suicides, the gun laws have no effect overall. People in countries with the strictest gun laws who want to do it will jump in front of a train. Perhaps the Democrats in Illinois should outlaw Metra instead of just leaning on the news to quit reporting people leaping onto the tracks. After all, the problem has been on the rise in Illinois for years, and even Metra's own CEO jumped in front of on | May 26 14:49 |
| baronhk[m] | to beat an arrest for embezzling from the agency. Just outlaw trains, or maybe force everyone to get clearance to be within 1,000 feet of one from the state police, by making them ask for a "Train Pass Owner ID Card" that can be at the whim of the state. I'm sure the problem will go away immediately, because Democrats." | May 26 14:49 |
| kakama | leads to this meme of 'shoot a bunch of people' combined with other random radicalism memes and emotional/mental instability to create unsprung this idea that going on a rampage is the path set before someone | May 26 14:50 |
| kakama | no one has to espouse a particular call to action, the memes move fast enough and combine automatically at rates unprecedented in human history both in speed and volume, it is inevitable that some of them turn into weird and dangerous things | May 26 14:50 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151616 #GNU #Linux | May 26 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 14:50 | |
| kakama | some dangerous memes are self-contained and cannot spread as much, ie there aren't a bunch of cults that say 'yeah we too should mass suicide via juicy juice' | May 26 14:51 |
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| kakama | but the 'shoot a bunch of people and get your manifesto read' meme is virulant and persistant, most people are carriers at this point and it only expreses in an individual with the right (wrong?) combination of thoughts and circumstances | May 26 14:52 |
| kakama | fuckin wild man | May 26 14:52 |
| baronhk[m] | "The fact is, if people want to do something, they'll find a way to get it done." | May 26 14:53 |
| baronhk[m] | "When criminal thugs in Chicago want guns, they don't walk into a gun shop and tell the law abiding gun shop owner "Here's my FOID card, all hail Jabba the Pritzker!", they just buy a trunk load from out of state, illegally. Or they rob a train car full of M16 assault rifles (fully automatic, at that, which are also banned by law for civilian possession, as is train robbery). Criminals breaking the law? Nooooooo! | May 26 14:53 |
| baronhk[m] | That's absurd." | May 26 14:53 |
| kakama | thug has become a loaded racebaiting word | May 26 14:54 |
| kakama | wait did some group actually rob a train full of M16s or is that hyperbole | May 26 14:54 |
| baronhk[m] | "Since the passage of the FOID Act, over 250,000 Illinoisans have been shot and over 70,000 have been killed." | May 26 14:55 |
| baronhk[m] | "Which are statistics that make the state sound more like the Vietnam War than a Democrat success, right?" | May 26 14:55 |
| baronhk[m] | <kakama "wait did some group actually rob"> Yes, several times. | May 26 14:55 |
| baronhk[m] | Chicago is a major rail hub and some of the stuff going through is military equipment. Where do you think they're getting this shit from? | May 26 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: tbh, this has nothing to do with tech | May 26 14:56 |
| baronhk[m] | It's not just assault rifles. Criminal gangs have even managed to steal grenade launchers, flak jackets, and other stuff. | May 26 14:56 |
| schestowitz | not even remotely | May 26 14:56 |
| schestowitz | let me know when you blog about tech | May 26 14:56 |
| baronhk[m] | Oh it is. | May 26 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | no, it's not | May 26 14:56 |
| baronhk[m] | FOID requires biometrics and it's spying. | May 26 14:57 |
| schestowitz | gun "rights" isn't tech | May 26 14:57 |
| schestowitz | but you don't talk about this aspect at all | May 26 14:57 |
| baronhk[m] | You go into a "database" like some sort of criminal, while they have no idea what the criminals, individually, are up to. | May 26 14:57 |
| schestowitz | we need to keep on topic | May 26 14:57 |
| schestowitz | otherwise the channel becomes noise | May 26 14:57 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Another Journalist Informed #Trump DOJ Otained Their Phone And Email Records https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210521/19090446844/another-journalist-informed-trump-doj-otained-their-phone-email-records.shtml | May 26 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Journalist Informed Trump DOJ Otained Their Phone And Email Records | Techdirt | May 26 15:02 | |
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| baronhk[m] | "How are the Democrats trying to make it worse? | May 26 15:15 |
| baronhk[m] | Aside from doubling the fee to use a constitutional right, which is at the whim of the State Police already, several Democrats in the legislature are trying to add steps to the process, including having the State Police force you to turn over your “Social Media” handles so that they can read them, and decide if they like what they’re reading or not before they make a decision on your FOID card application. | May 26 15:15 |
| baronhk[m] | When constitutional rights depend on what you say on Facebook….. These are truly scary times. Philip K. Dick could have written a new book and it wouldn’t have been any more out there than what the Democrats have been up to in Illinois. Supporting Burn, Loot, and Murder, paroling child molesters and serial killers, and trying to pass a trailer bill like this to the FOID Act." | May 26 15:15 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▅▂▅▆▃▃▅▅▅▆▆▆▇▅▅▄▅▅▇▄▅▂▃▄▅▆▆█▃▃▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 36.63 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▃▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▁▃▁▂▂▂▁▁▃▂▂█▁▂█▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 39.55▕ swarm size (avg): 230.96 ⟲ | May 26 15:16 |
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| MinceR | guns are tech | May 26 15:22 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "we did not pick a horse" – I was talking about CrystalMath who pretty much displayed unconditional love. | May 26 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "also, tweets are not sources, they're random thoughts" – can be insightful from time to time. | May 26 15:50 |
| baronhk[m] | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/26/illinois-foid-act-an-unconstitutional-law-that-invades-privacy-of-gun-owners-and-doesnt-lower-crime-its-a-biometrics-program-that-spies-on-lawful-citizens/ | May 26 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Illinois FOID Act: An unconstitutional law that invades privacy of gun owners and doesn’t lower crime. It’s a biometrics program that spies on lawful citizens. – BaronHK's Rants | May 26 15:54 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "I heard it was done by "both sides"" – not correct. | May 26 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Stability is good, but ye have to keep in mind that backing up such displays of mismanagement is iffy. | May 26 15:56 |
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| baronhk[m] | "BLM is really just a bunch of "Jimmy in-n-outs" as Saul Goodman (the lawyer from Breaking Bad) put it. They're really angry and bitter that they have to do stints in prison between felonies and that every time the state lets them out to commit more crime, they go right back to the slammer. It's a political movement in the sense that they want to confiscate your belongings using the state this time, as the state is | May 26 16:04 |
| baronhk[m] | sovereign and thus can't do anything illegal. Maybe they are smarter than anyone thinks." | May 26 16:04 |
| baronhk[m] | I believe that making the state so horrible that "Decent people should live somewhere else. They'll like it better." (As Jack Nicholson's Joker put it.) is their end goal so that they have permanent run of the place. | May 26 16:06 |
| baronhk[m] | MinceR: That is the ultimate question, and why I saved it for last. | May 26 16:08 |
| baronhk[m] | Why are legal gun sales surging in Illinois? Presumably the people who are buying them are the ones that voted to make the place horrendous in the first place. | May 26 16:09 |
| MinceR | The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything? | May 26 16:09 |
| baronhk[m] | Now they want a gun so that they can potentially stand trial for shooting a home invader. | May 26 16:09 |
| MinceR | "Hey, love crusader / I want to be your space invader" | May 26 16:10 |
| baronhk[m] | I really wish that things would go better in the black community. | May 26 16:10 |
| baronhk[m] | People don't speak out against it, so the folks who go to work and pay their taxes and follow the laws let these people be their voice. | May 26 16:10 |
| baronhk[m] | BLM should not be their voice. | May 26 16:11 |
| baronhk[m] | They should take that back and speak for themselves. | May 26 16:11 |
| baronhk[m] | We're caught up in the middle of a huge national gaslighting where large corporations are promoting BLM propaganda to make it seem legitimate. | May 26 16:12 |
| baronhk[m] | And that's part of the "algorithms to make you think you're fucking crazy" that Facebook has deployed. | May 26 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | [15:50] <XRevan86> schestowitz: "also, tweets are not sources, they're random thoughts" – can be insightful from time to time. | May 26 16:22 |
| schestowitz | sometimes. | May 26 16:22 |
| schestowitz | let me put it differently | May 26 16:22 |
| schestowitz | there's a profound difference between report based on hours of talking to people from both side and looking things up, as you did over the past week, and just someone venting in Twitter for likes, maybe with some bias inherent and no supporting links, context etc. | May 26 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Indeed, however, Ariadne's opinion on the situation and what she shares is something I am going to listen to. | May 26 16:24 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #PIA #privacy ☞ How data minimization can protect privacy and reduce the harms of collecting personal information https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-data-minimization-can-protect-privacy-and-reduce-the-harms-of-collecting-personal-information/ | May 26 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How data minimization can protect privacy and reduce the harms of collecting personal information | May 26 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | I did not write about this in a rush, mind you! | May 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to people about this... since APRIL! | May 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I came out publicly about this around May 7th | May 26 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And freenode ops just took over lots of channels for wrongthink. | May 26 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Suddenly today I find MariaDB to be on Libera. | May 26 16:26 |
| baronhk[m] | The DSM changes every decade or so.... I suppose that the only requirement for mental illness to be redefined in or out of existence is whether society's attitude towards something changes, and to what extent. | May 26 16:26 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Police In #India Raid #Twitter Offices After #Twitter Labeled A Tweet By A Government Official As 'Manipulated Media' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210525/09252046869/police-india-raid-twitter-offices-after-twitter-labeled-tweet-government-official-as-manipulated-media.shtml | May 26 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Police In India Raid Twitter Offices After Twitter Labeled A Tweet By A Government Official As 'Manipulated Media' | Techdirt | May 26 16:26 | |
| XRevan86 | Now how did this happen… | May 26 16:27 |
| baronhk[m] | Interestingly, psychiatrists still have the authority to declare a transgendered person mentally ill in the latest revision. | May 26 16:27 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: tbh, I'd rather move on | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | no good will come out of it | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Libera does not make me feel safer | May 26 16:28 |
| baronhk[m] | They never really do let anything go, however. They just push things off to the side as gender or sexual orientation causing a person grief. That way it's easy to say the person is ill because it's causing them to have a negative self-image or distress. | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | given some of their stances (the staff) on particular issues | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | and stories that I heard last month about a clique in that staff | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | let's get back on topic | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: stf? | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | *wtf? | May 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz | why are you bringing up sex all the time? | May 26 16:29 |
| schestowitz | we have a major patent case... come Friday | May 26 16:29 |
| baronhk[m] | It comes up in pretty much every CoC. | May 26 16:29 |
| schestowitz | and the channel logs are littered with gun and sex | May 26 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's fine if the reason to be on freenode is that Andrew is sympathetic to techrights.org | May 26 16:29 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I spoke to him for many hours | May 26 16:29 |
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| stormchaser3000 | this is horrifying: https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-download-dmca-notice/ | May 26 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent - It's FOSS News | May 26 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | and I found some of the framings online to be false and rather malicious | May 26 16:30 |
| baronhk[m] | Libera Chat is threatening to get rid of anyone who offends based on sexual orientation or gender identity. I wonder if that includes all of the psychiatrists in America. | May 26 16:30 |
| schestowitz | facts seem to no longer matter | May 26 16:30 |
| schestowitz | stormchaser3000: yes, seen that | May 26 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Because of the split the network will get closer to being an echo chamber, that's one factor. | May 26 16:30 |
| baronhk[m] | <TechrightsBot-tr "news.itsfoss.com | Comcast Sends"> That doesn't surprise me. It's no longer safe to do anything without a VPN or at least in Tor Browser. | May 26 16:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:41] <techrights-bot> #Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading #Ubuntu ISO via Torrent • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines | May 26 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | might not be the first time | May 26 16:30 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I'd rather be on a side of it that won't kick us out | May 26 16:31 |
| schestowitz | and not having to relocate at all is a plus | May 26 16:31 |
| schestowitz | we have been on here since 2008 | May 26 16:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR, IIRC, joined the same year or a year after | May 26 16:31 |
| baronhk[m] | Psychologists manipulate for all sorts of reasons. | May 26 16:32 |
| baronhk[m] | They even push in favor of draconian copyright. | May 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz | I don't find comforting the "Free speech BUT" crowd | May 26 16:32 |
| baronhk[m] | Psychology today pushed an article out that said that anyone who uses bittorrent is a sociopath or something like that. | May 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | unless the BUT is, [some other law] | May 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | like antiterror law | May 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | or crime, death threats etc. | May 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/09/rms-replatformed/ | May 26 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Some Background on the Free Speech Society at the University of Buckingham, Where Richard Stallman is Being ‘Replatformed’ | Techrights | May 26 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | "GNU/Linux founder Richard Stallman (RMS) will be back to public speaking. Yes, public (he spoke more privately, but that’s not the same thing). Co-founder of the society that invited RMS to give a speech tomorrow had spoken last year to some show, as presented above. James Oliver speaks about the whole “I’m in favour of free speech, but…” phenomenon and portrayal of free speech as a “political wing” thing (tribalism, | May 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz | divisive politicking). He says it’s “concerning the people are branding this right wing” although historically a lot of ‘anti-Establishment’ politics (suppressed by power) came from the so-called ‘left’ (wings are a binary over-simplification). Many left-leaning people are still being banned and deplatformed (or ‘cancelled’); Mr. Oliver gives some recent examples." | May 26 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Regarding moving on, tomorrow GNU will be deciding. | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | let's wait and see | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | remember Debian GR | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | at the end no statement on RMS and FSF | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | which was good | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | was the end of it all, April 17th IIRC | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | calm afterwards | May 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz | then some debian in elements engages in a witchhunt in Freenode | May 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | those people are now in libera | May 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | good | May 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | as STAFF | May 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz | let them stay there | May 26 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | FSF might want to check who runs libera | May 26 16:36 |
| schestowitz | as some of the staff there signed the anti-FSF letter | May 26 16:36 |
| schestowitz | disguised as anti-RMS (concern-trolling) | May 26 16:36 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Former #Trump Spokesman Ordered To Pay $42,000 To #Gizmodo After Losing His Bogus #Defamation Lawsuit https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210523/18063246856/former-trump-spokesman-ordered-to-pay-42000-to-gizmodo-after-losing-his-bogus-defamation-lawsuit.shtml | May 26 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Trump Spokesman Ordered To Pay $42,000 To Gizmodo After Losing His Bogus Defamation Lawsuit | Techdirt | May 26 16:37 | |
| baronhk[m] | It's pretty brazen for psychologists to say that sharing is antisocial. | May 26 16:39 |
| baronhk[m] | "Hey, I just found this great song! Here, listen to it with me!" ANTISOCIAL! | May 26 16:39 |
| schestowitz | psychologists or a site that claims to speak for psychologists? | May 26 16:39 |
| MinceR | supply-side psychology? | May 26 16:39 |
| baronhk[m] | "Hey, here's a book. It had an impact on my way of thinking! Want to read a few passages?" ANTISOCIAL! | May 26 16:40 |
| techrights-bot | #billgates is done https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/18/bill-gates-crumbles-on-his-own-smug-immorality/ | May 26 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Bill Gates crumbles on his own smug immorality - Washington Times | May 26 16:40 | |
| baronhk[m] | Being social means sharing the paywall. | May 26 16:41 |
| techrights-bot | #epstein #billgates #sextrafficking #divorce https://news.yahoo.com/bill-gates-thought-jeffrey-epstein-090005004.html | May 26 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Bill Gates Thought Jeffrey Epstein Was His Ticket to a Nobel Prize, Ex-Staffer Says | May 26 16:41 | |
| baronhk[m] | People can grow in all of the ways they can pay for. | May 26 16:41 |
| baronhk[m] | <techrights-bot "#epstein #billgates #sextraffick"> Do they give them out for child rape yet or will they just do the Peace Prize there too? | May 26 16:42 |
| techrights-bot | #billgates bribed #theguardian multiple times over the years. How long can that silence them for? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/23/bill-gates-melinda-divorce-gates-foundation | May 26 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | When rich people divorce: what does the future hold for Bill and Melinda Gates? | Bill Gates | The Guardian | May 26 16:42 | |
| techrights-bot | Even #microsoft has distanced itself from the pervert #billgates https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/tech/satya-nadella-bill-gates-microsoft-culture/index.html | May 26 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft CEO responds to news of Bill Gates' affair with employee - CNN | May 26 16:42 | |
| *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights | May 26 16:43 | |
| techrights-bot | I want to ask again, where in #github is the #cancelGates letter and why don't so-called 'activists' for good go after the biggest of criminals and instead target poor folks like RMS? https://news.yahoo.com/bill-gates-hoped-friendship-sex-101918512.html | May 26 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Bill Gates hoped his friendship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein would help him win the Nobel Peace Prize, report says | May 26 16:43 | |
| saint_dogbert | schestowitz: You do know that SCO is back from the dead, right? | May 26 16:43 |
| techrights-bot | What allegations? He's connected to Epstein and lied about it repeatedly. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/18/business/bill-gates-leadership-roles-stay-intact-despite-allegations/ they keep trying to distract from what ACTUALLY happened. Captured media... | May 26 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bostonglobe.com | Bill Gates’ leadership roles stay intact despite allegations - The Boston Globe | May 26 16:44 | |
| techrights-bot | old: #dwheeler on #swpats https://dwheeler.com/essays/software-patents.html now that he works for #linuxfoundation he's in a front group of #softwarepatents proponents like #ibm and #microsoft | May 26 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dwheeler.com | Eliminate Software Patents | May 26 16:45 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 26 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: yes | May 26 16:46 |
| schestowitz | sort of | May 26 16:46 |
| saint_dogbert | https://itwire.com/open-source/echoes-of-sco-case-xinuos-sues-ibm,-red-hat-in-virgin-islands.html | May 26 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Echoes of SCO case: Xinuos sues IBM, Red Hat in Virgin Islands | May 26 16:47 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #layoffs "I retired and I am soooo HAPPY. I no longer have to put up with the abuse and managers who do not even know what you do!!!...but happy to collect the bonuses I use to drive for them. FU-K little babyyyyy blue!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ign7H#replies | May 26 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I'm about to hand in my resignation - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 16:48 | |
| techrights-bot | #trump #goldenDawnald #notOverYet https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-partially-discloses-memo-barr-used-clear-trump-obstruction-russia-n1268445 | May 26 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | DOJ partially discloses memo on why Trump wasn't charged with obstruction | May 26 16:49 | |
| baronhk[m] | Frank Underwood, in House of Cards, said "All people become a problem, eventually.". | May 26 16:50 |
| saint_dogbert | https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/05/25/facebook-is-circumventing-your-privacy-settings-but-you-can-stop-them-n1449481 | May 26 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pjmedia.com | Facebook Is Circumventing Your Privacy Settings, But You Can Stop Them – PJ Media | May 26 16:51 | |
| baronhk[m] | I'm seeing that with my spouse now, as he associates with people at work, including that idiot that tried to get him to break the law for her. | May 26 16:51 |
| baronhk[m] | Now he's going to some "party" after work and either I get to go to try to stop him from doing anything stupid there and get to be a wallflower around a bunch of people I don't even know, or I could stay here and let whatever happens happen. | May 26 16:52 |
| saint_dogbert | baronhk[m]: sounds like an interesting story | May 26 16:52 |
| baronhk[m] | I'm more like my cats, I suppose. | May 26 16:52 |
| baronhk[m] | You rearrange the furniture and they walk around for a couple of hours letting you know they aren't happy about it. | May 26 16:53 |
| saint_dogbert | baronhk[m]: The latter option.. thats what I would do, personally. Otherwise, people don't learn | May 26 16:53 |
| baronhk[m] | Unfortunately, if that woman does convince him to do anything dumb and he gets himself arrested, that's a big problem for immigration. | May 26 16:53 |
| baronhk[m] | They might just get rid of him. I mean, my ability to keep him here depends largely on convincing the government that he's not a problem. | May 26 16:54 |
| baronhk[m] | I already warned him about that and said that if he does get arrested doing something stupid I'm filing for divorce and I'm not going to help him. | May 26 16:55 |
| techrights-bot | "So Belarus is now hijacking planes to arrest journalists and the Single Market’s response is “sanctions.” #Lukashenko and #Putin must be laughing out of their Mig-29s. " https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106289081154239695 | May 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "So Belarus is now hijacking planes to arrest jour…" - Aral’s Mastodon | May 26 16:55 | |
| techrights-bot | #Lukashenko https://www.voanews.com/europe/airlines-avoid-belarusian-airspace-over-plane-diversion-arrest-journalist | May 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Lukashenko Defends Diverting Flight in Belarus to Arrest Activist | Voice of America - English | May 26 16:55 | |
| baronhk[m] | I hope it never ends up there. I have no idea why people are so crazy that if nothing's going wrong, they have to fuck with things until things are going wrong. | May 26 16:55 |
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| techrights-bot | Media in #israel weaponises elephants for empathy https://www.ynetnews.com/environment/article/BkbDNgOF00#autoplay who's the one doing the vast majority of the bombing? | May 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ynetnews.com | As Gaza conflict raged, Israeli elephants shield calf from rockets | May 26 16:56 | |
| baronhk[m] | Going back to psychiatry, the only thing they do have figured out, it seems, is how to make a career that pays money as if they were fixing something when the world continues to decay, morally, and in all other ways possible. | May 26 16:57 |
| techrights-bot | #gopkkk egging on dangerous people under the guise of 1A, then cries foul when #insurrection attempts fail https://www.law360.com/articles/1387990 | May 26 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fla. To Revoke Tax Breaks For Platforms That Ban Politicians - Law360 | May 26 16:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Right, well, in the last two days, I’ve managed to knock down our DigitalOcean hosting fees from ~$90/mo to $5/mo by moving our GitLab to Eclips.is https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106297020845039119 | May 26 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Right, well, in the last two days, I’ve managed t…" - Aral’s Mastodon | May 26 16:58 | |
| schestowitz | baronhk[m]: a lot of that dicpline, psychiatry, is BS | May 26 17:01 |
| schestowitz | not all | May 26 17:01 |
| schestowitz | that discipline is often practiced by people who try to learn about themselves | May 26 17:01 |
| schestowitz | and then they offer to teach others | May 26 17:01 |
| schestowitz | but unstable people teaching other mentally unstable people what to do has pros and cons | May 26 17:01 |
| schestowitz | on the one hand, they have experience | May 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | on the other hand, the pros aren't a meritocracy | May 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | but many people with messed up lives and heads | May 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | so it's a touch and go thing... | May 26 17:02 |
| techrights-bot | Daniel Stenberg: #curl 7.77.0 – 200 OK https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/26/curl-7-77-0-200-ok/ #www #deletegithub | May 26 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl 7.77.0 – 200 OK | daniel.haxx.se | May 26 17:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #apple #ProprietarySoftware junk https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M1-M1RACLES | May 26 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M1RACLES: Apple M1 Exposed To Covert Channel Vulnerability - Phoronix | May 26 17:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #idg is either trying to make us all laugh or writes clickbait for the #religion known as #apple (with mindless fans, who are often not technical and might take this as "gospel") https://www.computerworld.com/article/3619515/apples-mac-security-warning-shows-that-closed-beats-open.html | May 26 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Mac security warning shows that closed beats open | Computerworld | May 26 17:04 | |
| techrights-bot | #Comcast Subscriber Receives DMCA Notice for Downloading #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614#comment-29753 #gnu #linux | May 26 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines | May 26 17:06 | |
| saint_dogbert | I had a DMCA notice years ago for downloading PCBSD when they existed | May 26 17:07 |
| techrights-bot | #apple ... sooooo safe https://www.tomshardware.com/news/m1racles-covert-channel-vulnerability-apple-m1-chip | May 26 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Asahi Linux Dev Reveals ‘M1RACLES’ Flaw in Apple M1, Pokes Fun at Similar Flaws | Tom's Hardware | May 26 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: from the ISP? | May 26 17:10 |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert: I think they just renamed? | May 26 17:10 |
| schestowitz | I cannot recall rn | May 26 17:10 |
| schestowitz | truOS? | May 26 17:10 |
| schestowitz | is that the one? | May 26 17:10 |
| saint_dogbert | That'd be the current project | May 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueOS | May 26 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | TrueOS - Wikipedia | May 26 17:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Working stateDiscontinued" | May 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz | oh | May 26 17:11 |
| saint_dogbert | I forwarded the complaint and the email saying that some company was laying claim to BSD to the BSD devs | May 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "Development of TrueOS ended in 2020.[2]" | May 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.truenas.com/TrueOS-Discontinuation/ | May 26 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TrueOS Discontinuation - TrueNAS Open Storage | ZFS for the Home to the Data Center | May 26 17:12 | |
| saint_dogbert | Yeah, they decided that users didn't matter | May 26 17:12 |
| saint_dogbert | much like KDE used to claim; 'We don't need users' | May 26 17:12 |
| saint_dogbert | then went to NAS only | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | hopefully migration outwards isn't too tricky | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | some BSDs move to gnu/linux as base | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | the more basic distros | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | the lighter ones as base | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | like void | May 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | KDE has many users | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | they'll be OK | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Qt6 being a peril | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | but then again, this whole Qt treadmill is pessy | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | forces devs to constantly update their stuff | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | for new toolchains | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | and that in turn requires new glibc and stuff | May 26 17:13 |
| MinceR | KDE's capitulation to Gnome OS (systemd) is also a peril to KDE | May 26 17:13 |
| saint_dogbert | Yeah, they survived. Just kinda shocking back then that a KDE dev would tell that to people | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | and for what gain? very little, mostly disruption | May 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not to late to bail out on it | May 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | chromeOS rejects systemDehomag | May 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | so you know even large companies such as GOogle don't want to deal with it | May 26 17:14 |
| saint_dogbert | Gentoo... no systemd required... patched systemd out of KDE | May 26 17:14 |
| saint_dogbert | ChromeOS is based on Gentoo. | May 26 17:14 |
| saint_dogbert | no systemd required for it | May 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I am watching IBM closely these days | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat affected too | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | We have many groups that can fill the gaps | May 26 17:15 |
| saint_dogbert | both went woke and laying off people as they go broke? | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and IBM | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | too giants of the old days | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | 90s, 80s... | May 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | they think they can save each other | May 26 17:15 |
| saint_dogbert | Honestly, I think MS should have been broken up back then | May 26 17:16 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▂▅▂▅▄▅▄▃▄▁▄▄▁▂▃▅▃▄▅▄▅▅▁▃▅▆▄▆▅▄▄▅▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.25 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▃▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▃▁▆▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 37.65▕ swarm size (avg): 230.99 ⟲ | May 26 17:16 |
| saint_dogbert | but they escaped that court order | May 26 17:16 |
| schestowitz | and lobbying for Bush | May 26 17:16 |
| schestowitz | who was elected and ruined some countries | May 26 17:16 |
| schestowitz | the price for bill and steve... | May 26 17:16 |
| schestowitz | elect a criminal | May 26 17:16 |
| schestowitz | don't lose the company | May 26 17:16 |
| saint_dogbert | Pretty much | May 26 17:17 |
| techrights-bot | New person for #cafc ... if Dennis Crouch likes her, it means BAD. If he fears her, GOOD! Because he's funded by thugs and #patentTrolls agents. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/upcoming-tiffany-cunningham.html | May 26 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Judge (Upcoming) Tiffany Cunningham | Patently-O | May 26 17:18 | |
| saint_dogbert | I actually met Dubya a few times... once when he was governor and the second time when he was running for 2nd term as POTUS | May 26 17:18 |
| techrights-bot | "Two points are worth noting: on the one hand, the Court sides with a specific interpretation of “staple product” (a staple product has other significant non-protected uses); on the other hand, the Court applies a seemingly strict standard on the notion of “inducement”." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/26/patent-case-bioregenerativas-spain/ | May 26 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Bioregenerativas, Spain - Kluwer Patent Blog | May 26 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | [17:16] <schestowitz> who was elected and ruined some countries | May 26 17:19 |
| schestowitz | sorry, my bad | May 26 17:19 |
| schestowitz | claimed to have been elected | May 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | FL butterflies and all | May 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | not even claims of "election fraud" | May 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | but rather clear theft by ballot manipulation | May 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | and media complicity | May 26 17:20 |
| saint_dogbert | Sounds like you think Gore should have been sworn in | May 26 17:20 |
| kakama | was he cool saint_dogbert ? | May 26 17:21 |
| kakama | my roommate made eye contact with Obama while she was on mushrooms | May 26 17:21 |
| saint_dogbert | kakama: Dunno about 'cool.' Depends on your definition. But he definitely wasn't as stupid as the media made him out to be. | May 26 17:21 |
| techrights-bot | #Krita Third Development Update! https://krita.org/en/item/third-development-update/ #kde #FreeSW | May 26 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Third Development Update! | Krita | May 26 17:21 | |
| kakama | and he gave a kind of 'umm....' look because she and her equally high as fuck sister were sliding around in their chair making weird faces of devotion and psychadelia | May 26 17:21 |
| saint_dogbert | may not have been a genius or mastermind, but definitely wasn't the dumbest person I've ever met | May 26 17:21 |
| MinceR | have you met microsoft programmers? :> | May 26 17:22 |
| kakama | yeah that was clearly hyperbole, and to some degree he probably used it as a character attribute, part of his persona | May 26 17:22 |
| saint_dogbert | MinceR: Actually, yes. My brother works for MS as a programmer. | May 26 17:22 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 17:22 |
| saint_dogbert | We haven't spoken for many years over him going to work there. | May 26 17:22 |
| kakama | I heard a theory that the 'shame on.. you don't get fooled again' thing was actually engineered to avoid saying 'shame on me' as that provides a soundbite for memetic usage | May 26 17:22 |
| saint_dogbert | kakama: His Chief of Staff apparently recommended that he not fight the media over that point and just let it ride out. | May 26 17:23 |
| techrights-bot | Virtuozzo’s Mature #GNU #Linux Distribution #VzLinux Now Available to Public https://finance.yahoo.com/news/virtuozzo-mature-linux-distribution-vzlinux-103000020.html | May 26 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Virtuozzo’s Mature Linux Distribution VzLinux Now Available to Public | May 26 17:23 | |
| kakama | Trump was the master of constructed image/persona, being a reality TV star and all | May 26 17:23 |
| kakama | I imagine that's why Regan was popular too | May 26 17:23 |
| kakama | that distinctive base-level way Trump speaks, just all 'This thing.... SAD!' is well crafted; it sounds stupid to some people but it gets the point across in a way that maximizes the number of people who understand it | May 26 17:24 |
| techrights-bot | Argh... #deletegithub https://nishalkulkarni.tumblr.com/post/652141928080605184 stop outsourcing things to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly ... it's neither wise nor educational http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | May 26 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nishalkulkarni.tumblr.com | Nishal's Blog — Introduction to Shell Scripting | May 26 17:24 | |
| kakama | not to mention the optics of not sounding 'like a politician' | May 26 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | May 26 17:24 | |
| kakama | and of course it was also fuckin hilarious but that'll get your head taken off for saying so | May 26 17:25 |
| saint_dogbert | kakama: Who would do that in your opinion? | May 26 17:25 |
| saint_dogbert | take your head off* | May 26 17:26 |
| kakama | I miss him tho, we will probably never have that much political lulz in our lifetimes every again, from here on out it's just blackpills forever | May 26 17:26 |
| kakama | well, a number of people I know are somewhat cross with me for even being entertained by Trump | May 26 17:26 |
| kakama | we just don't talk about it at all, I ultimately take everything as a joke and believe the whole political partisan system is rigged/a game show for entertainment and diversion and some of them buy into their side as being the right one | May 26 17:26 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/3bGC6Gh.gif?noredirect | May 26 17:27 |
| kakama | so they have a reflexive response that goes something along the lines of IT ISN'T A JOKE PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING KIDS IN CAGES | May 26 17:27 |
| kakama | even though they were not personally affected by any policies of that administration, and certain things like border arrests etc are carried on by the current administration but not part of a big media campaign | May 26 17:28 |
| techrights-bot | Projects selected for #LibreOffice in the Google Summer of Code 2021 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/05/26/projects-selected-for-libreoffice-in-the-google-summer-of-code-2021/ when your competitor funds you. See #mozilla ... cannot criticise #google | May 26 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Projects selected for LibreOffice in the Google Summer of Code 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog | May 26 17:28 | |
| saint_dogbert | I'll say this; I held my nose and voted for Trump in '16 as I figured he may not follow through with his promises, but he couldn't be worse than Hillary would have been | May 26 17:28 |
| kakama | Trump being around was this perfect villian for the prescribed cultural narrative, or antihero to others | May 26 17:28 |
| saint_dogbert | was pleasantly surprised at how Trump turned out though in regards to getting things moving again | May 26 17:28 |
| saint_dogbert | I'd probably vote for him again if he ran in '24 | May 26 17:28 |
| kakama | but a very orwellian '7 Minutes of Hate' was a daily ritual for those last 4 years | May 26 17:29 |
| techrights-bot | Open Insurance is coming to #Italy | Stop at Zona-M ⚓ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/05/open-insurance-is-coming-to-italy/ | May 26 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Open Insurance is coming to Italy | Stop at Zona-M | May 26 17:29 | |
| saint_dogbert | lol | May 26 17:29 |
| kakama | I mean people hated Obama and ranted, hated Bush and ranted, that's usual, but the incredible level of 'it is normal and expected to hate the president' was insane | May 26 17:29 |
| kakama | simply the act of not hating him put you in a bad camp | May 26 17:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a good thing then that GOP gutted public education | May 26 17:30 |
| saint_dogbert | no argument here | May 26 17:30 |
| kakama | and this cultural narrative of 'if you voted for him you are a racist' | May 26 17:30 |
| kakama | heard that a lot | May 26 17:30 |
| MinceR | :> | May 26 17:30 |
| saint_dogbert | they hate it when its pointed out how that word has lost its meaning due to overuse | May 26 17:30 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: the New Dark Ages also work out in the "republican"s favor | May 26 17:30 |
| MinceR | "my ignorance is just as valuable as your knowledge" | May 26 17:30 |
| kakama | have people who don't talk to me because I openly enjoyed that last presidency, and that combined with other opinions, good friends who got sucked into strong political views suddenly started saying some very unkind things to me and how they cannot be around me anymore | May 26 17:31 |
| techrights-bot | #mozilla to #firefox users: we are watching you ;-) ;-) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/05/26/performance-sheriff-newsletter-april-2021/ | May 26 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (April 2021) – Mozilla Performance | May 26 17:31 | |
| kakama | that really tore me up, a few of those, because it's like I watched people I love join a cult | May 26 17:31 |
| saint_dogbert | totally understand that | May 26 17:31 |
| MinceR | are you sure it's not the other way around? :> | May 26 17:31 |
| saint_dogbert | lost my best friend over that nonsense | May 26 17:31 |
| kakama | I mean the Trump cultists are equally ridiculous MinceR yea | May 26 17:32 |
| schestowitz | lost a lot of time to that nonsense | May 26 17:32 |
| schestowitz | US politics as emotional noise and drain | May 26 17:32 |
| saint_dogbert | A self described 'old skool democrat' that couldn't stand the thought that someone would vote for Trump over Felonia Von Pansuit | May 26 17:32 |
| schestowitz | so we don't keep sight on some other important things | May 26 17:32 |
| kakama | it's designed to be an emotional drain schestowitz | May 26 17:32 |
| kakama | yeah | May 26 17:32 |
| saint_dogbert | and then vote for Trump again over Crazy Joe | May 26 17:32 |
| schestowitz | while the Orange One threatens wars and stuff | May 26 17:32 |
| kakama | just rile everyone up into having cult like worship or hatred of these media characters | May 26 17:33 |
| kakama | while business as usual politics is passing boring but serious rules about trade policies and whatnot | May 26 17:33 |
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| kakama | but having this culture war keeps people divided and fighting each other and always thinking their team is the savior | May 26 17:33 |
| kingoffrance | this was all predicted circa 1955 Dr. Emmett Brown : Then tell me, future boy, who's President of the United States in 1985? Marty McFly : Ronald Reagan. Dr. Emmett Brown : Ronald Reagan? The actor? [chuckles in disbelief] Dr. Emmett Brown : Then who's vice president? Jerry Lewis? [rushing out and down a hill toward his laboratory] Dr. Emmett Brown : I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady! | May 26 17:34 |
| kakama | my father is a fox news republican, we'll agree on 'this system is controlled the fighting between people is a diversion from the issues' sort of thing but then he tacks on 'AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES DOING IT' | May 26 17:34 |
| techrights-bot | When #malware has "more feature" is that really a net positive? https://www.techradar.com/news/googles-latest-chrome-update-brings-some-great-new-features-especially-for-linux-users | May 26 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google's latest Chrome update brings some great new features - especially for Linux users | TechRadar | May 26 17:34 | |
| kakama | like so close to understanding, but unable to break out of the narrative of Red vs Blue | May 26 17:34 |
| MinceR | probably works well for letting ~half the people let a given party get away with just about anything | May 26 17:34 |
| MinceR | "i'm sure the other party would be even worse" | May 26 17:34 |
| kakama | or for the kids who aren't into that, the Nazi vs Commie narrative that for some reason is getting a remake | May 26 17:34 |
| MinceR | => carte blanche | May 26 17:34 |
| kakama | I actually enjoyed Trump because he wasn't really a Republican, he was just kind of his own crazy thing | May 26 17:34 |
| kakama | watching the Republican actors fall over themselves to see if they were going to go with party lines or stand by their principles was fucking hilarious | May 26 17:35 |
| kakama | and then the Democrat people just trying to burn everything down for 4 years, turning the full force of the media machine against him, every trick you could pull | May 26 17:36 |
| MinceR | two-party system at its worst | May 26 17:36 |
| kakama | yup | May 26 17:36 |
| kakama | anyone who couldn't see what a farce it is after the last 4 years, I don't know how to help | May 26 17:36 |
| kakama | but the entertainment is good and people believe in the show | May 26 17:36 |
| kakama | culture war is always this brilliant smokescreen | May 26 17:36 |
| techrights-bot | Oh gosh. #WordPress running out of ideas and trying to copy #Facebook now. https://wordpress.org/news/2021/05/coloring-your-images-with-duotone-filters/ Bloat. | May 26 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – Coloring Your Images With Duotone Filters – WordPress.org | May 26 17:36 | |
| kakama | some huge number of lgbt and black and etc people surely did not want to be dragged into the culture war the way they are being used righ tnow | May 26 17:37 |
| techrights-bot | The way things are going, #wordpress will become another #phpnuke and then nuke itself. | May 26 17:37 |
| kakama | but TPTB had to distract from Occupy somehow | May 26 17:37 |
| kakama | easy enough to use psyops to destroy a movement from inside, and then ramp up culture war stuff to increase infighting so people don't unite again | May 26 17:38 |
| kakama | tho with the extremism that it breeds that might backfire one day in our future | May 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz | sectarian superficiality | May 26 17:38 |
| kakama | like home grown al queda tier radicalism | May 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz | in the future? | May 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz | January 6th | May 26 17:38 |
| kakama | I've met all kinds of people who are absolutely steadfast in their conviction that within the next X years they are going to need to go to war to destroy, it varies, anything from the capitalists to the elites to the jews to globalhomo or whatever, same meal different flavors | May 26 17:39 |
| techrights-bot | "Matt Mets of BlinkinLabs have been using the Raspberry Pi SBC and OpenOCD to debug Arm-based microcontroller boards for a while, but found it to be a pain to find jumper wires and look up the pin-outs manually each time." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/26/jtag-hat-for-raspberry-pi-eases-debugging-with-openocd/ | May 26 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | JTAG Hat for Raspberry Pi eases debugging with OpenOCD - CNX Software | May 26 17:39 | |
| kakama | Like I'm prepared for civil war but just because I know most radical sides will want me dead for one reason or another, gonna have to defend myself | May 26 17:40 |
| kakama | if it actually pops off, we as a people have lost to the influences of various dark powers | May 26 17:40 |
| kakama | it would mean we fell for the ruse | May 26 17:40 |
| kakama | culture war smokescreen example: 4473 firearms form updated 'to add non-binary to the sex category' making those who pay attention to such things get mad about culturalmarxismglobalhomo etc | May 26 17:41 |
| techrights-bot | "A week ago, I blogged about a vulnerability in a platform that would allow anyone to download users’ amortisation schedules. This was a critical issue, but it wasn’t really exploitable in the wild as it included a part where you had to guess the name of the document to download." https://scarpino.dev/posts/sharing-your-loan-details-to-anyone.html | May 26 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scarpino.dev | Andrea Scarpino - Sharing your loan details to anyone | May 26 17:42 | |
| kakama | actual change to the form that mattered: rearranging the document so that you can scan one side and have all the data you need on the purchase and what weapons were in it, whereas before you would have to open the thing up and scan two sides | May 26 17:42 |
| kakama | culture war smokescreen example: literally everything happening in teh FOSS world right now | May 26 17:42 |
| techrights-bot | "Just one week after #AMDVLK 2021.Q2.3 is now another update to this open-source #AMD Vulkan driver for Linux systems." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDVLK-2021.Q2.4 | May 26 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDVLK 2021.Q2.4 Released With Two More Extensions Added - Phoronix | May 26 17:42 | |
| kakama | git master, whiteblacklist, CoC, Stallin the Stallman | May 26 17:43 |
| kakama | but I'm just preaching to the choir at this point | May 26 17:43 |
| kakama | imma go get a bento box | May 26 17:43 |
| schestowitz | you need to chill | May 26 17:43 |
| schestowitz | you are acting like a troll | May 26 17:43 |
| schestowitz | and throw provocations in all directions | May 26 17:43 |
| schestowitz | hoping something will stick | May 26 17:43 |
| schestowitz | you can focus on the issues without doing any of that | May 26 17:44 |
| kakama | I guess that's reflexive but these are all related issues in my mind, symptoms of some greater trend | May 26 17:44 |
| kakama | the actual cause of which I do not understand | May 26 17:44 |
| schestowitz | if you want to help us (you are new; I know nothing about you), then you will change the tone and style | May 26 17:44 |
| kakama | I am definitely rambling though, I haven't eaten all day and have just been talking for 4 hours giving a lecture to customers | May 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz | are you a grown-up? Can you do that? | May 26 17:45 |
| kakama | yeah I'll lurk more | May 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz | OK | May 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz | most channels would have thrown you over the fence by now | May 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz | esp. as you are new | May 26 17:45 |
| kakama | I will need to assess what I said later in the context of the channel vibes I guess because I genuinely wasn't trolling | May 26 17:48 |
| techrights-bot | American ISP Sent Customer a #DMCA for Downloading #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614#comment-29754 | May 26 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines | May 26 17:48 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Inkscape 1.1 Released! How to Install in #Ubuntu 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151559#comment-29755 #gnu #linux | May 26 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to Inkscape 1.1! | Tux Machines | May 26 17:50 | |
| techrights-bot | Turn Your Tablet Or Phone Into A Graphic Tablet / Touch Screen For Your Desktop With #Weylus • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151617 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Turn Your Tablet Or Phone Into A Graphic Tablet / Touch Screen For Your Desktop With Weylus | Tux Machines | May 26 17:51 | |
| techrights-bot | " #AssaultCube , a name I bet plenty of Linux users know but haven't heard anything of in a long time. It hasn't seen a release since *checks notes* 2013. However, it's going to make a return." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/classic-freeware-shooter-assaultcube-is-making-a-comeback | May 26 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Classic freeware shooter 'AssaultCube' is making a comeback | GamingOnLinux | May 26 17:52 | |
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| *alextee[m] uploaded an image: (39KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fzVhgwFlSvVPNqPGubWWNAZM/google.jpg > | May 26 17:52 | |
| techrights-bot | #UnrealEngine 5 goes out in Early Access with continued Linux support | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/unreal-engine-5-goes-out-in-early-access-with-continued-linux-support ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/26/#latest | May 26 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unreal Engine 5 goes out in Early Access with continued Linux support | GamingOnLinux | May 26 17:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 26 17:53 | |
| techrights-bot | #Games : #SteamPal and Several New Titles for GNU/Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151618 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamPal and Several New Titles for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | May 26 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | alextee[m]: that's very old | May 26 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I saw it more than 5 years agi | May 26 17:55 |
| schestowitz | *ago | May 26 17:55 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft missing | May 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | they like it like that, the "GAFA" decoy | May 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft gets access to all of Facebook's data | May 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | so you know they are, by definition, worse than FB | May 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | whether also worse than Google on grounds of PRIVACY ALONE, that's debatable... | May 26 17:56 |
| samiamsam | if FB is the one giving them the data, then FB is the worse one, since it's upstream | May 26 17:57 |
| samiamsam | as i see it | May 26 17:58 |
| alextee[m] | <schestowitz "Microsoft gets access to all of "> did not know that | May 26 17:58 |
| techrights-bot | #Ardour 6.7 Digital Audio Workstation Brings Brew of Features and Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151496#comment-29756 | May 26 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ardour 6.7 Open-Source DAW Released with Dedicated “Recorder” Tab, Many Improvements | Tux Machines | May 26 17:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #gnu #linux 1990: rtfm, n00b, you bring a culture here that would harm technical merit GNU/Linux 2021: So-called 'Open Source' people helping Microsoft seed lies inside the media (like the "loves Linux" BS) while signing mob letters to CANCEL the very FOUNDER of GNU/Linux | May 26 18:01 |
| techrights-bot | Pure #greenwashing by #Microsoft and proxies http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29757 #linuxfoundation is profoundly compromised and should be disbanded for #gnu #linux to grow... | May 26 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines | May 26 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | alextee[m]: old news, too http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Facebook | May 26 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook - Techrights | May 26 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | still confirmed at present | May 26 18:04 |
| schestowitz | the media confirmed it's still going on | May 26 18:04 |
| schestowitz | a few years ago | May 26 18:04 |
| techrights-bot | #bigPharma #patent #cartel is now weaponising #corporateMedia for misleading puff pieces and inherently racist lies. Says a lot about integrity of such (so-called) media... | May 26 18:06 |
| techrights-bot | Person who blackmailed the FSF into expelling its founder and banishing the founder of #GNU #Linux tells us that #freenode is no good and we should move to a network he controls. Notice overlaps. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/05/ubuntu-irc-moves-to-libera-chat | May 26 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | PSA: Ubuntu's IRC Channels Have Moved from Freenode to Libera Chat - OMG! Ubuntu! | May 26 18:09 | |
| techrights-bot | This headline is a lie because the number of users has hardly changed https://fosspost.org/freenode-collapse/ #freenode | May 26 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosspost.org | Freenode, The Mainstream IRC Network, Is Collapsing | May 26 18:12 | |
| techrights-bot | The 'cancel Freenode' people, such as Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai (moments ago, once again), are employed by the very same publication that kickstarted the anti-RMS movement by distorting what he had said days after #BillGates made headlines over #Epstein connections in #MIT | May 26 18:14 |
| downey[m] | FTFY: "However, few weeks, Shells logo, a company Lee co-founded, appeared on the homepage of Freenode, replacing a different logo of another company Lee co-founded in the same location for many years." | May 26 18:15 |
| schestowitz | that logo was there in March | May 26 18:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2016-freenode.jpg | May 26 18:17 |
| schestowitz | PIA was there for half a decade | May 26 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Shells in March of this year | May 26 18:17 |
| schestowitz | after 5 years of his brother's business | May 26 18:17 |
| schestowitz | timeline: http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ | May 26 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM | Techrights | May 26 18:18 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #clowncomputing hype for #outsourcing not working out, right? "Maybe they will start doing what they do with financials - that is, recategorizing all severity 1 as severity 2, so they can then claim "look no more severity 1 issues!"" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b21spuI#replies | May 26 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Cloud resets ‘Days Since Last Major Incident’ clock to zero – after just five days - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 26 18:19 | |
| techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151619 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 18:22 | |
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| techrights-bot | Such a "best-protected brands list" would probably be just some #thinktank for #law firms. Buy our services today to 'protect' you... https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/brand-management/european-and-consumer-brands-dominate-clarivates-first-ever-best-protected-brands-list | May 26 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | European and consumer brands dominate Clarivate’s first-ever best-protected brands list | World Trademark Review | May 26 18:24 | |
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| techrights-bot | US 2A harms #privacy https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/26/illinois-foid-act-an-unconstitutional-law-that-invades-privacy-of-gun-owners-and-doesnt-lower-crime-its-a-biometrics-program-that-spies-on-lawful-citizens/ | May 26 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Illinois FOID Act: An unconstitutional law that invades privacy of gun owners and doesn’t lower crime. It’s a biometrics program that spies on lawful citizens. – BaronHK's Rants | May 26 18:31 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151620 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 26 18:36 | |
| techrights-bot | Many #PostgreSQL -Related Releases • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151621 #psql #postgres #TuxMachines | May 26 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Many PostgreSQL-Related Releases | Tux Machines | May 26 18:36 | |
| techrights-bot | "We are looking for an individual or company to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling." #libreoffice #documentFoundation https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/05/26/tender-to-implement-the-new-tdf-membership-committees-web-based-tooling-202105-01/ | May 26 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Tender to implement the new TDF Membership Committee’s web-based tooling (#202105-01) - The Document Foundation Blog | May 26 18:38 | |
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| techrights-bot | Stable Kernels: 5.12.7, 5.10.40, 5.4.122, 4.19.192, 4.14.234, 4.9.270 , and 4.4.270 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151622 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.7, 5.10.40, 5.4.122, 4.19.192, 4.14.234, 4.9.270 , and 4.4.270 | Tux Machines | May 26 18:42 | |
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| techrights-bot | Links 26/5/2021: #IBM #ClownComputing Issues, #DMCA Versus #Ubuntu ISO • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/dmca-versus-ubuntu-iso/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/dmca-versus-ubuntu-iso/ | May 26 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/5/2021: IBM Clown Computing Issues, DMCA Versus Ubuntu ISO | Techrights | May 26 19:02 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151629 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 19:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware : #RaspberryPi and ARM • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151628 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and ARM | Tux Machines | May 26 19:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151627 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw | May 26 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 19:04 | |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151626 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 19:04 | |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151625 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 26 19:05 | |
| techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151624 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and More | Tux Machines | May 26 19:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Benchmarking #AMD Ryzen 5 5500U Linux Performance With A $450 #Lenovo Laptop • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151623 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarking AMD Ryzen 5 5500U Linux Performance With A $450 Lenovo Laptop | Tux Machines | May 26 19:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▂▆▁▂▆▆▄▅▄▅▅▁▅▃▆▅▅▅▂▂▆▅▅▄▅▁▆▃▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 21.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▃▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂█▁▂▃▂▃█▂█▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 42.16▕ swarm size (avg): 231.04 ⟲ | May 26 19:15 |
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| techrights-bot | This is exactly what I said, all along, would happen. When you start a fork based on a phony 'issue', such as "GIMP" (acronym) supposedly offending people, nobody would flock over https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/05/glimpse-gimp-fork-project-on-pause | May 26 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GIMP Fork 'Glimpse' is on Pause, No Further Updates Planned for Now - OMG! Ubuntu! | May 26 19:23 | |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation has become a front that's #greenwashing corrupt company that attacks Linux. This is truly disturbing as Microsoftr vendor capture tactics have hijacked the brand "Linux" itself. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29758 #ProprietarySofwtare #entryism | May 26 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines | May 26 19:27 | |
| techrights-bot | #JimZemlin : Open Source Loves #Microsoft • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ ䷉ #Techrights #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ | May 26 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | May 26 19:28 | |
| techrights-bot | #mozilla as #censorship vendor https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/05/26/mozilla-statement-on-the-european-commissions-guidance-on-the-revision-of-the-eu-code-of-practice-on-disinformation/ #internet browser company or Internet police? | May 26 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla reacts to the European Commission’s guidance on the revision of the EU Code of Practice on Disinformation - Open Policy & Advocacy | May 26 19:30 | |
| techrights-bot | If #google doesn't kill #mozilla over the next 5 years (Google needs Mozilla to pretend there's still competition and bemoan antitrust action), #firefox might join the laughable cloud club of Web 'browsers' that tell you which site/page you can access and which you cannot | May 26 19:31 |
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| techrights-bot | "Cockpit is the modern #GNU #Linux admin interface. We release regularly. Here are the release notes from Cockpit version 245 and cockpit-podman version 31." https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-245.html | May 26 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 245 — Cockpit Project | May 26 19:32 | |
| techrights-bot | "It's time we pushed forwards in our exploration of #XFCE , this time, we're going to look at the default applications that this desktop ships, and reflect a little bit on their approach, that is really different from other desktop environments" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=247Dx3j2Jlk | May 26 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFCE Default apps - How is everything so FAST? - YouTube | May 26 19:34 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ | May 26 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Freenode IRC staff resign en masse after takeover by Korea’s “crown prince” | Ars Technica | May 26 19:36 | |
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| techrights-bot | #OpenOCD -ready HAT turns the Pi into a debugger with Cortex-M and JTAG headers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151628#comment-29759 #gnu #linux | May 26 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and ARM | Tux Machines | May 26 19:38 | |
| downey[m] | I didn't know Ars was so big into stenography | May 26 19:38 |
| schestowitz | it changed | May 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | they lost a lort of the staff | May 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | *lot | May 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | also Wired, same owner | May 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | they started cross posting | May 26 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Ars took a massive tumble when an editor, Microsoft Peter, was arrested for raping children | May 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | that was 2 years ago | May 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft lost a key "asset", their main one in Ars | May 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: it's the headline that says what agenda they have | May 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | there's no such thing | May 26 19:40 |
| schestowitz | they make it seem like david vs goliath | May 26 19:41 |
| schestowitz | when in fact sometimes it's the 'davids' who are fronting for the rich | May 26 19:41 |
| schestowitz | and take away from startups | May 26 19:41 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032622 | May 26 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5348075) | May 26 19:44 | |
| AdmFubar | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27246755 | May 26 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Freenode IRC operators now engaging in routine abuses of power | Hacker News | May 26 19:45 | |
| techrights-bot | Material Shell Gets #GNOMEShell 40 Support, New Overview And #Gtk4 Settings http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151591#comment-29760 #gnome #gnu | May 26 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40's Shell Theme Code Is Rather Expensive But Optimization Pursued | Tux Machines | May 26 19:46 | |
| techrights-bot | Four years of #postmarketOS / #AlpineConf 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151630 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Four years of postmarketOS / AlpineConf 2021 | Tux Machines | May 26 19:47 | |
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| XRevan86 | AdmFubar: Old news, it got bigger from then. | May 26 19:48 |
| techrights-bot | #linuxfoundation thinks #linux people are a bunch of idiots who can be lied to http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ | May 26 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | May 26 19:49 | |
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| techrights-bot | Plans for physical events of #geminiSpace users and devs https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006567.html #geminiprotocol #europe | May 26 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini meetup? | May 26 19:54 | |
| AdmFubar | Not old news... these are updates to the situation. one can glean a few new insights to the takeover | May 26 19:55 |
| techrights-bot | #EuroLinux 8.3-beta is now available. #gnu #linux #poland #pl https://euro-linux.com/ | May 26 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pl.euro-linux.com | EuroLinux Sp. z o.o. – profesjonalne rozwiązania Open Source | May 26 19:56 | |
| XRevan86 | AdmFubar: The comments there are 3-4 days old, no one covered what happened yesterday. | May 26 19:56 |
| techrights-bot | 3,180 new #covid19 cases and 9 new deaths in the United Kingdom. Highest in several weeks. I still expect lock-downs to resume by autumn. We've already quit the gym (2 days ago) as it no longer feels safe; overconfident people not keeping distance and overcrowding. | May 26 19:58 |
| lockeanarchist | lol | May 26 20:00 |
| lockeanarchist | after this purge I think that Freenode is done. tbh | May 26 20:00 |
| techrights-bot | #New Design and modern Core: #Univention Corporate Server 5.0 has been released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151631 #Debian #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Design and modern Core: Univention Corporate Server 5.0 has been released | Tux Machines | May 26 20:04 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/5EVJtm2.png | May 26 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They speak of the log screenshot in https://freenode.net/news/for-foss | May 26 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode exists for FOSS - freenode | May 26 20:09 | |
| MinceR | this particular log? | May 26 20:09 |
| MinceR | i thought that article was posted before the freenodecom nuke was dropped | May 26 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | I personally love how Andrew forms every sentence in such a formal way that he clearly intended to screenshot it %) | May 26 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe, I still wanted to show my appreciation to that one though | May 26 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2021q2/006909.html – they're talking about this one indeed. | May 26 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mail.kde.org | The status of freenode (the IRC network used by KDE) | May 26 20:11 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: Fuchs was k-lined at 05-26 2:32, freenodecom was active around 05-26 5:05 | May 26 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And the screenshot is from 05-25 | May 26 20:13 |
| MinceR | the screenshot i posted is from after the freenodecom thing | May 26 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, ye misunderstood. *They* on the screenshot mentioned that other screenshot. | May 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | ah, ok | May 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | (the above times are CEST) | May 26 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | (how un-universal) | May 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | :> | May 26 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | Darth Iversal? | May 26 20:15 |
| lockeanarchist | the problem is that many people that where undecided about freenode and just announcing that they were undecided got a freenodecom visit haha | May 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | :> | May 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | Darth Becile | May 26 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: And even those who didn't have decided. | May 26 20:16 |
| lockeanarchist | yeah | May 26 20:16 |
| XRevan86 | A tipping point, as they say. | May 26 20:16 |
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| XRevan86 | The year is 1937 | May 26 20:17 |
| lockeanarchist | if they were trying to stop the bleeding they just opened the wound more | May 26 20:17 |
| lockeanarchist | I won't be surprised if lc surpasses fn in this current year | May 26 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | freenode Trials: Trial of the Anti-freenode Liberian Center – In the freenode 17 leading staffers go on trial, accused of participating in a plot led by tomaw to overthrow Andrew Lee's regime, and assassinate its shareholders. | May 26 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials | May 26 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Moscow Trials - Wikipedia | May 26 20:19 | |
| techrights-bot | #UnrealEngine 5 Hits Early Access, Linux Still Supported - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Unreal-Engine-5-Early-Access ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/26/#latest | May 26 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unreal Engine 5 Hits Early Access, Linux Still Supported - Phoronix | May 26 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 26 20:19 | |
| XRevan86 | The references write themselves. | May 26 20:19 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Liberia.svg | May 26 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Flag of Liberia.svg - Wikipedia | May 26 20:19 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux Picks Up Fix For Latest "Confused Deputy" Weakness Going Back To 2.6.12 Kernel - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Confused-Deputy-2.6.12 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux #Security | May 26 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Picks Up Fix For Latest "Confused Deputy" Weakness Going Back To 2.6.12 Kernel - Phoronix | May 26 20:20 | |
| lockeanarchist | "let's decentralize"! Proceed to take down all ops that put "lc" in the channel topic :) | May 26 20:22 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: Trotskist treason will not be tolerated | May 26 20:22 |
| techrights-bot | Announcing #Oracle #GNU #Linux Clown Native Environment Release 1.3 https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/announcing-oracle-linux-cloud-native-environment-release-13 | May 26 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: We can all talk about the World Revolution, how it's good and all, but Trotsky's ideas will never work and as such he's effectively working for the capitalist enemy, so we should start treating them as such. | May 26 20:25 |
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| techrights-bot | Announcing the release of #Oracle Linux 8 Update 4 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151632 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 26 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: So that's the line of thinking I'm seeing here basically. | May 26 20:27 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | May 26 20:27 |
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| techrights-bot | #IBM working with "USAID, the Clinton Global Initiative"... what could go wrong? https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/grillo-tests-earthquake-detection-system-in-puerto-rico/ | May 26 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Grillo tests earthquake detection system in Puerto Rico – IBM Developer | May 26 20:40 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://atheme.github.io/atheme-open-letter/ | May 26 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-atheme.github.io | An open letter from Atheme’s developers and community | atheme-open-letter | May 26 20:59 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://nitter.cc/osuosl/status/1397633679581597697 also a post on Twatter, thus unimportant? | May 26 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Open Source Lab (@osuosl): "We were proud to be an early sponsor of #freenode back in the day. Thanks for the shout out on the importance of our role" | nitter | May 26 21:01 | |
| XRevan86 | (I know ye moved on and everything) | May 26 21:05 |
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| sebsebseb | mekkis: schestowitz ping | May 26 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: ping | May 26 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: whoops looks like lots of communities don't trust you for some reason so going to that other network, but nevemind | May 26 21:11 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▃▂▅▅▄▂▆▄▃▁▄▅▄▂▆▅▅▂▃▂▅█▆▃▄▅▅▆▅▆▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 29.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂██▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▃█▃▁▂▂▁▁▂▂█▄▁ avg(k/sec) 52.53▕ swarm size (avg): 231.08 ⟲ | May 26 21:16 |
| baronhk[m] | Facebook got revenge for calling them out for privacy issues. | May 26 21:33 |
| baronhk[m] | They cooked up some incompatibility that disappeared if you used a Chrome UA. | May 26 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh no | May 26 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | most of the people are leaving freenode | May 26 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | or a lot | May 26 21:34 |
| downey[m] | "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" | May 26 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | ubuntu just left | May 26 21:35 |
| MinceR | i won't miss ubuntu | May 26 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | others already have | May 26 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | more to follow | May 26 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | the new most popular channel is looking like ##linux on here now | May 26 21:36 |
| saint_dogbert | The big question is; will they take #Arch with them | May 26 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | downey[m]: what like iwth some of hte covid stuff possibly ? | May 26 21:36 |
| baronhk[m] | Google has created incompatibilities and hid them behind Chrome UAs or actually figured out non-standard features in the Chromium engine and implemented features using that. | May 26 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: What's there? | May 26 21:37 |
| baronhk[m] | Like the Polymer user interface for Youtube. | May 26 21:37 |
| saint_dogbert | XRevan86: the arch linux channel | May 26 21:37 |
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| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_IRC_channels | May 26 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | Arch IRC channels - ArchWiki | May 26 21:37 | |
| baronhk[m] | Microsoft also complained that Google figured out how EdgeHTML's hardware assisted video decode worked and deliberately put an invisible iframe in front of the video to prevent it from working so that the laptop would get hot and drain the battery. | May 26 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: Because of the channel take-over thing on freenode ye may need to manually consult the websites to see which channel is official. | May 26 21:38 |
| MinceR | microsoft doesn't like the taste of their own medicine? | May 26 21:38 |
| saint_dogbert | XRevan86: I don't want to know what their official channel is, let alone consult with them | May 26 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: Oh, I thought ye asked a question. Never mind then. | May 26 21:39 |
| saint_dogbert | I think its stupid to close a big channel on a network just because they don't like the owner and some staffers are/were having a hissy fit about it | May 26 21:40 |
| *Condor is now known as weeb | May 26 21:40 | |
| XRevan86 | (the answer to that question was "yes", anyway) | May 26 21:40 |
| psydroid | the Ubuntu WSL guy is at SUSE now | May 26 21:40 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210524/06274946858/27-right-to-repair-laws-proposed-this-year-giants-like-apple-have-ensured-none-have-passed-so-far.shtml | May 26 22:00 |
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| buzzert | im a little behind on the freenode controversy. the exodus was precipitated by some big lie? | May 26 22:08 |
| MinceR | there was at least one lie | May 26 22:08 |
| MinceR | problem is, we don't know which statements are lies | May 26 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | buzzert: Which exodus? The initial one or the new wave? | May 26 22:09 |
| MinceR | and yeah, then there was an ill-conceived bot operation that resulted on the takeover of many channels | May 26 22:09 |
| buzzert | new wave? i didnt hear about the initial one | May 26 22:10 |
| buzzert | what is the motivation behind the bot operation? | May 26 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | buzzert: A week ago and now | May 26 22:10 |
| MinceR | something like they wanted the channels of moved projects to be open and usable, except their policy means users would have to use about (##) channels instead anyway | May 26 22:12 |
| MinceR | also, they probably didn't like oftc and libera being advertised in topics | May 26 22:12 |
| XFaCE | I think the lesson here is that we should not look for nuance in situations and always blindly follow the groupthink. | May 26 22:14 |
| MinceR | lol | May 26 22:14 |
| saint_dogbert | lol | May 26 22:14 |
| buzzert | haha | May 26 22:15 |
| baronhk[m] | The problem with feeding Google Chrome UAs to Google is that it may work or it may direct you to something that doesn't work at all. | May 26 22:19 |
| baronhk[m] | They implement entire websites on functionality that was already rejected for standardization and then feed that to Chrome and a version with less features to everyone else. | May 26 22:19 |
| baronhk[m] | I doubt that Edge is safe because it advertises itself as "Edg" instead of "Edge" now and it has a different UA, which is exactly what was triggering compatibility problems for Vivaldi and Brave. | May 26 22:20 |
| prurigro | in a lot of cases I've found firefox works perfectly well on sites that reject anything but chromium once you spoof | May 26 22:20 |
| prurigro | not that those are sites that deserve attention | May 26 22:21 |
| baronhk[m] | They just say they're Chrome. Still, my bank figured out a way to match the exact Chrome version numbers and won't let you log in without an actual match to a released stable version of Chrome that is fairly recent. | May 26 22:21 |
| baronhk[m] | So you can't log in under Brave without faking the UA. | May 26 22:21 |
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| baronhk[m] | Arguing with websites about compatibility is usually a waste of time. Once you drop below about 5%, they no longer care and increasingly start sticking out "Come back in this other browser.". | May 26 22:22 |
| prurigro | spoofing your UA is a good way to get them to ignore a given browser on that note | May 26 22:23 |
| baronhk[m] | Well, they're not going to support you either way. | May 26 22:24 |
| prurigro | my bank didn't originally support firefox and now it does | May 26 22:25 |
| prurigro | or rather, they went from partial to full support | May 26 22:25 |
| baronhk[m] | BofA required IE 6 for a very long time even after it became clear what an ongoing disaster IE 6 was and that all malware that installed itself by visiting a site was targeting it. | May 26 22:25 |
| MinceR | bofa, eh? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BofA | May 26 22:26 |
| baronhk[m] | IE 6 was so bad that if Microsoft was still actively supporting it and the web was frozen exactly where it was back then, they could keep patching it for 20 more years and it still wouldn't matter much. | May 26 22:27 |
| baronhk[m] | Compatibility with the original design means you can't fix it. | May 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | ie6 was so bad microsoft wants it to exist forever | May 26 22:28 |
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| baronhk[m] | They hid some things behind "click to activate" with XP SP2. | May 26 22:28 |
| baronhk[m] | Then malicious websites just had an arrow that said "Click here.". | May 26 22:28 |
| baronhk[m] | "When a screen like this pops up, click Allow." | May 26 22:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://glimpse-editor.org/posts/a-project-on-hiatus/ oh hey, why did I find out about this from OpenNET? | May 26 22:30 |
| baronhk[m] | I tried using Steam for "Linux" and I honestly think that Proton is less of a disaster than some of the native ports. | May 26 22:30 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, I'm blind. | May 26 22:30 |
| XRevan86 | (18:23:44) techrights-bot: This is exactly what I said, all along, would happen. When you start a fork based on a phony 'issue', such as "GIMP" (acronym) supposedly offending people, nobody would flock over https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/05/glimpse-gimp-fork-project-on-pause | May 26 22:31 |
| baronhk[m] | Borderlands 2 ported by Aspyr stopped working almost as soon as the next versions of the distributions came out six months later. | May 26 22:31 |
| baronhk[m] | And their tickets were always closed saying "Try it on Ubuntu 16.04" or something like that. | May 26 22:31 |
| baronhk[m] | It left me hacking at the sides going "Okay, you know, it crashes at the title screen, so maybe if I delete the video file with the logos.". | May 26 22:32 |
| sebsebseb | zha ha | May 26 22:34 |
| sebsebseb | so even techrighs has split kind of | May 26 22:34 |
| baronhk[m] | https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/ | May 26 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | there's an unoffial channel on liera :D | May 26 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | libera | May 26 22:35 |
| baronhk[m] | The dlls are "closed source" and "part of Windows". | May 26 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | sebsebseb: best of luck to them | May 26 22:35 |
| baronhk[m] | So of no use to actual Linux. | May 26 22:35 |
| baronhk[m] | Aside from that, they love Linux. | May 26 22:35 |
| baronhk[m] | I wonder how Proton is coming along with games that use a recent version of DirectX. | May 26 22:35 |
| saint_dogbert | Yeah, I believe that like I believe Crazy Joe really does want to work with both sides | May 26 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: It's been there since day one, superkuh organised it. | May 26 22:37 |
| alextee[m] | <XRevan86 "(18:23:44) techrights-bot: This "> glad to see this happen | May 26 22:44 |
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| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep he wants to fork it or kind of | May 26 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | or get away from you lot | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | the real tehrights pepole | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | techrights without MinceR no that so woudn't be the same | May 26 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He's keeping the place warm | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft IBM | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical | May 26 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | sebsebseb: you're saying superkuh is a traitor? | May 26 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | CrystalMath: maybe he is | May 26 22:59 |
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| MinceR | lol | May 26 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | [21:40] <psydroid> the Ubuntu WSL guy is at SUSE now | May 26 23:55 |
| schestowitz | which one? | May 26 23:55 |
| schestowitz | the one who pretends to be "unix" man? | May 26 23:55 |
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