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schestowitz[TR]I read about people shooting officersSep 27 00:01
schestowitz[TR]and people escaping, even high-profileSep 27 00:01
schestowitz[TR]200k men escaping the countrySep 27 00:01
schestowitz[TR]and one person setting himself ablazer in protestSep 27 00:01
schestowitz[TR]*ablazeSep 27 00:01
XRevan86schestowitz: Yep, all true.Sep 27 00:01
schestowitz[TR]maybe putin can be ousted soonSep 27 00:02
schestowitz[TR]maybe even the military general can cook something upSep 27 00:02
schestowitz[TR]but military junta regime is not much betterSep 27 00:02
schestowitz[TR]some of them already speak about using nukesSep 27 00:03
schestowitz[TR]"tactical"Sep 27 00:03
techrights-newsProprietary RemotePC Adds Linux Support https://www.socaltech.com/remotepc_adds_linux_support/s-0082922.htmlSep 27 00:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RemotePC Adds Linux Support - socaltech.comSep 27 00:04
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techrights-news"We enabled the new watchlist feature in February 2022 under the beta program. Since then, we have been improving this feature thanks to the valuable feedback coming from our users. Moving forward today, we are now ready to push it out of the beta program and make it generally available in OBS." https://openbuildservice.org/2022/09/26/watchlist-rollout//Sep 27 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbuildservice.org | The New Watchlist Came to Stay - Open Build ServiceSep 27 00:08
techrights-newsSpeech Recognition to Text in Linux, Ubuntu using Google Docs ⚓ https://www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs/ ䷉ Source: DebugPoint | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs/Sep 27 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/speech-recognition-to-text-in-linux-ubuntu-using-google-docs/ )Sep 27 00:12
techrights-newsLinux User Space 307: Episode 3:07: Emacs Pinky https://www.linuxuserspace.show/307Sep 27 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuserspace.show | Linux User Space 307: Episode 3:07: Emacs PinkySep 27 00:13
techrights-newsCOVID-19: 44% of hospitalisations boosted https://yewtu.be/watch?v=szUC8GpGJ4ASep 27 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 44% of hospitalisations boosted - InvidiousSep 27 00:16
techrights-news"A performance fix for recent large AMD systems that avoids an ancient cpu idle hardware workaround" https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=a1375562c0a87f0fa2eaf3e8ce15824696d4170aSep 27 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source treeSep 27 00:18
techrights-newsNokia came back to Linux at the end https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/nokia-releases-three-feature-phones-for-australian-market.htmlSep 27 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Nokia releases three feature phones for Australian marketSep 27 00:19
techrights-newsiTWire - Optus attacker exposes data of 10k, threatens to reveal more ⚓ https://itwire.com/security/optus-attacker-exposes-data-of-10k,-threatens-to-reveal-more.html ䷉ Source: IT Wire | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/optus-attacker-exposes-data-of-10k,-threatens-to-reveal-more.htmlSep 27 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Optus attacker exposes data of 10k, threatens to reveal moreSep 27 00:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 00:20
techrights-newsA lot of the mob which not only attacked RMS but moreover led the mob attacked the man over his "condition", hypocritically failing to acknowledge they themselves have some real clinical conditions. The double standard is just astounding.Sep 27 00:23
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat / IBM Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 27 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Red Hat / IBM LeftoversSep 27 00:32
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Sep 27 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security LeftoversSep 27 00:32
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 20-year-old Linux workaround is still slowing down AMD systems ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/20_year_old_Linux_workaround_is_still_slowing_down_AMD_systems.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/20_year_old_Linux_workaround_is_still_slowing_down_AMD_systems.gmi ∎Sep 27 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 20-year-old Linux workaround is still slowing down AMD systemsSep 27 00:33
techrights-newsLinux 6.0 should be with us very soon | TechRadar ⚓ https://www.techradar.com/news/linux-60-should-be-with-us-very-soon ䷉ Source: TechRadar | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.techradar.com/news/linux-60-should-be-with-us-very-soonSep 27 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 6.0 should be with us very soon | TechRadarSep 27 00:34
techrights-newsThe Real Reason Why The Linux Logo Is A Penguin ⚓ https://www.slashgear.com/1026441/the-real-reason-why-the-linux-logo-is-a-penguin/ ䷉ Source: SlashGear | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.slashgear.com/1026441/the-real-reason-why-the-linux-logo-is-a-penguin/Sep 27 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | The Real Reason Why The Linux Logo Is A PenguinSep 27 00:34
techrights-newsLilbits: Pixel Watch leaked (again), improving Linux performance on modern AMD chips, and Linux for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - Liliputing ⚓ https://liliputing.com/lilbits-pixel-watch-leaked-again-improving-linux-performance-on-modern-amd-chips-and-linux-for-the-samsung-galaxy-tab-2/ ䷉ Source: LiliputingSep 27 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lilbits: Pixel Watch leaked (again), improving Linux performance on modern AMD chips, and Linux for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - LiliputingSep 27 00:35
techrights-news"Welcome to the Microsoft/Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 754 for the week of September 18 – 24, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/09/26/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-754/Sep 27 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 754Sep 27 00:38
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu: Ubuntu Touch, Newsletter, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Touch_Newsletter_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Touch_Newsletter_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 27 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Ubuntu: Ubuntu Touch, Newsletter, and MoreSep 27 00:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Devices: GNU/Linux for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Banana Pi/Raspberry Pi, and ESP32 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Devices_GNU_Linux_for_the_Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_2_Banana_Pi_Raspbe.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/Devices_GNU_Linux_for_the_Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_2_Banana_Pi_Raspbe.gmi ∎Sep 27 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Devices: GNU/Linux for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Banana Pi/Raspberry Pi, and ESP32Sep 27 00:52
schestowitz[TR]does anyone here know what happened to m kiwi irc last night?Sep 27 00:55
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techrights-news"I think, sadly, it’s going to take a lot longer than everyone would like too, because there are few people working on it and they are all very busy with other ‘real-life’ things." https://pod.diaspora.software/posts/4984491Sep 27 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pod.diaspora.software | An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.comSep 27 01:03
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techrights-newsGNU has just entered its 40th year in Europe. 40 years completed in 364 days from now.Sep 27 01:04
techrights-newsSo-called 'leftists' still want the head of Snowden on a stake https://yewtu.be/watch?v=84h4RnRaDWw instead of extending gratitude to him exposing injusticeSep 27 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Putin Grants Russian Citizenship To Edward Snowden - InvidiousSep 27 01:09
XRevan86I personally want everyone to think of Snowden's activism in past tense, ignore what he says now and just let him live with his wife and kids wherever.Sep 27 01:11
techuserwhat he says now?Sep 27 01:12
techrights-newsLess toxic coverage https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eB__OJ6xZeQSep 27 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Edward Snowden granted citizenship from Russia - InvidiousSep 27 01:12
techuserdid he get corrupted?Sep 27 01:13
XRevan86techuser: I checked his Twitter, and it's mostly dull criticism of the US politics, Biden and such.Sep 27 01:13
techrights-news2013 (thinks have changed a lot since): Snowden allowed into Russia https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tABwdFXqkjESep 27 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Snowden allowed into Russia - InvidiousSep 27 01:14
techuseroh, okSep 27 01:14
XRevan86At least the recent posts haven't much to show for.Sep 27 01:14
techrights-newsCanonical pushing Windows and systemd https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J4gvO1rDYMESep 27 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tips for working with web services on Ubuntu WSL #WSL #Ubuntu #Linux - InvidiousSep 27 01:16
XRevan86techuser: "did he get corrupted?" <- He ignores Russian politics (in the posts that I've scrolled over), which is quite a feat considering how the world is focused on Russian politics right now %).Sep 27 01:16
XRevan86That's understandable considering how his life depends on Putin's favourable disposition, but that's corruption.Sep 27 01:17
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 01:20
XRevan86So my opinion is that he doesn't deserve to be turned over but also doesn't deserve an audience. Just leave him alone.Sep 27 01:20
DaemonFCmjg59_ is going completely off the rails.Sep 27 01:22
DaemonFCSays that feature requests and bug reports from "transphobes" should just be ignored.Sep 27 01:22
XRevan86techuser: Which I guess is what everyone's been doing anyway since no one remembered about him for years until the citizenship news.Sep 27 01:23
DaemonFCIt seems that you can use this as an excuse to leave your software buggy and missing features that would make it better even if they're not talking politics on your bug reporting system.Sep 27 01:23
DaemonFCHe would like that very much because he supports proprietary software companies and doesn't want there to be any credible alternatives, which is why he sabotages GNU/Linux.Sep 27 01:23
DaemonFC"ransphobes do not benefit society." lolSep 27 01:24
DaemonFCI think Hitler said this about gay men.Sep 27 01:24
DaemonFCWhich is what led them to Holocaust camps.Sep 27 01:24
DaemonFC"and so are incompatible with the goals of free software"Sep 27 01:24
psydruidmjg is a has-beenSep 27 01:25
DaemonFCFree Software isn't a political movement outside of the debate on whether software should do what the user says or what some tyrant that made the thing and won't give you any source code or rights to modify it made it do.Sep 27 01:25
psydruidhe knows it, we know it, everyone knows itSep 27 01:25
DaemonFCmjg59_ is useless to the Free Software movement.Sep 27 01:25
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psydruida major liability I should saySep 27 01:26
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schestowitz[TR]Oliver from Canonical does not seem to ahve twitter or linkedin presenceSep 27 01:26
schestowitz[TR]just wanted to check if he came from MicrosoftSep 27 01:26
schestowitz[TR]his name is very commonSep 27 01:26
schestowitz[TR]which makes that hardSep 27 01:26
psydruiddon't let him come close to your software, let alone touch itSep 27 01:26
psydruidas it will get infectedSep 27 01:26
DaemonFCLinkedIn experiments on people with nasty A/B tests like Windows does. Isn't it better to use Free Software that has the same GUI for all users and doesn't treat them like lab rats to drive some bullshit advertising scheme and defy documentation?Sep 27 01:27
DaemonFCmjg59_ stepped up his Shitter attacks on me right after I pointed this out.Sep 27 01:27
DaemonFCI don't think that GULAG actually has any real power to convince Free Software people not to converse with me about their software.Sep 27 01:29
psydruidlet's see how long it takes for him to get firedSep 27 01:29
DaemonFCHe's just pouring this crap out there as more of his "legend in my own mind" stuff.Sep 27 01:29
MinceRcurious thing to be upset aboutSep 27 01:29
schestowitz[TR]he is a loser and stalkerSep 27 01:29
schestowitz[TR]who wastes money on shitty lawyers who try to terrify my wifeSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]he is a net bullySep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]and he defames a lot of peopleSep 27 01:30
psydruidmjg will send you to his GULAGSep 27 01:30
MinceRhe probably hates free software with a passionSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]for totally BS reasonsSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: he does not love anythingSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]not even himselfSep 27 01:30
psydruida total backstabbing useless piece of human garbageSep 27 01:30
DaemonFCmjg59_ is a reason there's a binary-only "shim" program that's the first thing your firmware loads up on most GNU/Linux distributions.Sep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]that's a motivation to just take everyone else downSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]or to put them downSep 27 01:30
schestowitz[TR]to make Torvalds miserableSep 27 01:31
DaemonFCAnd if you do anything to modify "shim", it won't accept it because it won't be signed by MICROSOFT anymore.Sep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]to abuse RMSSep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]going after old menSep 27 01:31
DaemonFCHe's not a Free Software person.Sep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]RMS is almost 70Sep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]brbSep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]I am trying to figure out how many canonical managers came from microsoftSep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]1 or 2 is not a lotSep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]but there might be more we don't yet know aboutSep 27 01:31
schestowitz[TR]microsoft is like a virusSep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]it infects hostsSep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]Canonical PM: "local_optimum"Sep 27 01:32
psydruidI didn't watch that canonical video after the first 10 secondsSep 27 01:32
MinceRit's way too big to be a virus :>Sep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]localhostthe host is acanonicalSep 27 01:32
MinceRit's more like a tapewormSep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]the virus is Microsoft/WSL/systemdSep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: yeahSep 27 01:32
schestowitz[TR]it eats the insideSep 27 01:32
DaemonFCHe's comparing me to a Nazi. No, my family fought Nazis. What did GULAG's family do? Run from them?Sep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]that video shows useless crapSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]I watched the entire thingSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]short store, he sets up some containersSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]like apacheSep 27 01:33
DaemonFCPerhaps where he got his weasel genes from.Sep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]than accesses it from WSLSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]then sets up some port forwarding of sortsSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]so you can access it from windowsSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]what for?Sep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]gooef questionSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]totally uselessSep 27 01:33
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: link?Sep 27 01:34
schestowitz[TR]niter?Sep 27 01:34
schestowitz[TR]*nitterSep 27 01:34
MinceRyour typos make it look like you're typing in dutch :>Sep 27 01:34
schestowitz[TR]comparing a gay man to nazis would be a low blowSep 27 01:34
DaemonFCI feel like anyone who is following mjg59_ on Twitter is seriously misguided and probably not interested in actual facts or talking to me about this. Maybe they're even fake accounts.Sep 27 01:34
schestowitz[TR]like mocking an irishman for starvingSep 27 01:34
DaemonFChttps://nitter.it/mjg59Sep 27 01:34
mjg59_DaemonFC: Uh I didn't compare you to a naziSep 27 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Matthew Garrett (@mjg59)|nitter.itSep 27 01:34
mjg59_Apologies if what I wrote could be interpreted that waySep 27 01:35
schestowitz[TR]"fuck off"Sep 27 01:35
schestowitz[TR]are you sure you are employed?Sep 27 01:35
schestowitz[TR]talking like this in public?Sep 27 01:35
schestowitz[TR]anger management issueSep 27 01:35
schestowitz[TR]maybe we should file a coc complainSep 27 01:36
DaemonFCOne of your followers said you are "telling nazis to fuck off" in the middle of your posts, which you're obviously targeting at me as "he who shall not be named" and you liked it.Sep 27 01:36
schestowitz[TR]and re-siubmit him to anger management therapySep 27 01:36
DaemonFCSo what else can I infer from this?Sep 27 01:36
schestowitz[TR]and forced apologySep 27 01:36
schestowitz[TR]for telling people, repeatedly, "fuck off"Sep 27 01:36
mjg59_DaemonFC: Uh. No. I do in fact think about people other than you.Sep 27 01:36
schestowitz[TR]if RMS had done that. there would be a riotSep 27 01:36
chunkyguys plzSep 27 01:36
mjg59_In this case I'm talking about Josh MoonSep 27 01:36
chunkyi can't stand all this fightingSep 27 01:36
chunky:(Sep 27 01:36
schestowitz[TR]https://nitter.it/molly0xFFF/status/1574525483441610761#mSep 27 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Molly White (@molly0xFFF): "a FOSS maintainer telling nazis to fuck off rules, actually"|nitter.itSep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]that conflates two thingsSep 27 01:37
DaemonFCI've never doxed anyone to try to compel them to commit suicide. Certainly never done that.Sep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]and lowers the standards for what qualifies as nazisSep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]sooner or later you start saying jk rowling is "a nazi"Sep 27 01:37
DaemonFCBut I maintain that anyone who commits self-immolation because of some internet trolls was probably 90% of the way there already.Sep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]and so real nazisSep 27 01:37
DaemonFCDue to serious untreated mental health problems.Sep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]are just laughing it offSep 27 01:37
schestowitz[TR]"i'm like the harry potter author, a brit.."Sep 27 01:37
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schestowitz[TR]anyway, bblSep 27 01:38
immibisschestowitz[TR]: (1) what do you define as a nazi and (2) why do you need 5 IRC connectionsSep 27 01:38
schestowitz[TR]this is offtopic anywaySep 27 01:38
schestowitz[TR]but someone has serious anger issuesSep 27 01:38
schestowitz[TR]and lower the barriers of "nazism"Sep 27 01:38
schestowitz[TR]which is a disservice to peopple who actually suffer from actual nazisSep 27 01:39
MinceR27 023644 < chunky> i can't stand all this fightingSep 27 01:39
psydruida british Nazi eulogistSep 27 01:39
MinceRyou're on the wrong planet, then :>Sep 27 01:39
DaemonFCmjg59_, In fact, I was the victim of doxing and Internet trolls. I called Peter Staley a garbage drug company advertiser posing as an activist, and he raised up an army of, I'm not shitting you, gay men with AIDS, and told them to blow up my house phone.Sep 27 01:39
MinceR(and so am i)Sep 27 01:39
immibisDaemonFC: you appear to be a communist on all matters except transgenderism, and on that particular matter you appear to be a naziSep 27 01:39
DaemonFCWhen I was on THEIR side.Sep 27 01:39
schestowitz[TR]immibis: how does (1) related to (2)?Sep 27 01:39
schestowitz[TR]is (2) a fallback strategy?Sep 27 01:39
DaemonFCArguing that they should not have to pay those prices for medication.Sep 27 01:39
immibisschestowitz[TR]: they don't, except insofar as I pressed tab to autocomplete your nick.Sep 27 01:39
DaemonFCAnd that Staley was part of the problem they were facing.Sep 27 01:39
starstreak<immibis> DaemonFC: you appear to be a communist on all matters except transgenderism, and on that particular matter you appear to be a nazi <- +1Sep 27 01:39
schestowitz[TR]nazi lowercaseSep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]has no meaningSep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]you cheapen the termSep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]like ADL calling lots and lots of peple "antisemites"Sep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]and in turn renders the term meaninglessSep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]anyway, bbl. have fuin. this is offtoopicSep 27 01:40
schestowitz[TR]we have 2 othr channels for thisSep 27 01:40
DaemonFCStaley is an asshole. A real asshole. Not much different than mjg59_. Staley still says "activist" on a mission to wipe out AIDS. With $60,000 a year drugs and the patent racket, I presume. Garrett turned on Free Software when he moved from ACPI to bullshitter for Microsoft.Sep 27 01:41
starstreaklol theres 3 actually, daemonfc registered #heilhitlerSep 27 01:41
DaemonFCI didn't do anything of the sort.Sep 27 01:41
techrights-newsRefuses to comment... https://yewtu.be/vi/xiYew-WTmE0/mqdefault.jpgSep 27 01:42
DaemonFCThe only acceptable thing for AIDS drugs is for more of them to go generic and for the government to shut down "pay for delay".Sep 27 01:42
techrights-newsEarlier this month: The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even ‘Dumb’ Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It http://techrights.org/2022/09/03/privacy-of-mobile-phones/Sep 27 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even ‘Dumb’ Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It | TechrightsSep 27 01:43
DaemonFCIt's where they pay generics companies to delay generics for like 5 years in exchange for a bag of cash so that people still have no choice but to buy the brand name.Sep 27 01:43
DaemonFCIt's exactly what it sounds like. It's terrible.Sep 27 01:43
techrights-newsRefuses to comment... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xiYew-WTmE0Sep 27 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | JUST IN: White House Refuses To Comment On Putin Granting Russian Citizenship To Edward Snowden - InvidiousSep 27 01:43
DaemonFCThen since there's no generics, it also bleeds government health insurance programs dry. (Taxpayers)Sep 27 01:43
schestowitz[TR]bill gates profits from itSep 27 01:44
schestowitz[TR]but bill gates does not worry people who attack our movementSep 27 01:44
schestowitz[TR]he's on their sideSep 27 01:44
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2013/05/09/drugs-business-patents/Sep 27 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Novartis Pursued by Government Prosecutors, But Not for Its Patent Abuses | TechrightsSep 27 01:44
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/opposition-silenced-or-suppressed/Sep 27 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Foundation May Have Silenced Competing Research Ahead of New Gates Foundation-Funded ‘Study’; Gates Connected to Novartis | TechrightsSep 27 01:45
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2009/12/20/pharmaceutical-industry-patents/Sep 27 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Great Pharmaceutical Patent Hoax and the Gates Pharmaceutical Patent Investments | TechrightsSep 27 01:45
schestowitz[TR]bill gates is protected minoritySep 27 01:45
DaemonFCI don't see how I'm a Nazi on "trans" issues. I already said I'm not amused by it but leave them alone.Sep 27 01:45
schestowitz[TR]people who amass over $100,000,000,000 in a tax-doidging offshore account are a minoritySep 27 01:45
DaemonFCThat's a little different than the Diary of Ann fucking Frank.Sep 27 01:45
schestowitz[TR]they're above cricism or somethingSep 27 01:45
*psydruid notices the tactics to undermine techrights have intensifiedSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]they interject sexSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]I never publicly talk about sexSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]it's not relevantSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]I don't even talk to friends about it IRLSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]you can count on the finger of one hand who brings up sex hereSep 27 01:46
schestowitz[TR]even in private messages sent to me todaySep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]there'a an old sayingSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]a politician can be corruptSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]bribeSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]blackmailSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]etc etc.Sep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]but the moment there is a penis-related scandalsSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]prosecuton of stepping downSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]crimes are OKSep 27 01:47
schestowitz[TR]just keep the zipper in tactSep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]that's the standard in  societySep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]but the "protected minority" of gatesSep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]they are OKSep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]bill clinton, donald trump, bill gates..Sep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR].they can also fly with epsteinSep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]no action takenSep 27 01:48
schestowitz[TR]https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40809225.htmlSep 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.irishexaminer.com | 'Are the British public ultimately paying for Andrew to avoid appearing in court?'Sep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]the "fall man"Sep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]maxwell in prisonSep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]epstein: "well, he's dead"Sep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]Andrew settled with OUR MONEYSep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]but the billionaire club?Sep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]nothing...Sep 27 01:49
schestowitz[TR]not even the media touches themSep 27 01:49
psydruidall of the large tech companies don't exist primarily to serve their clients but to serve themselves and their mastersSep 27 01:50
psydruidit's scary how much of software is utterly useless and a giant waste of resourcesSep 27 01:50
psydruidexcept when the goals are wealth, power, control and fameSep 27 01:51
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/361354943287934976Sep 27 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: This magazine also includes an operating system tutorial written by Bill GatesSep 27 01:51
schestowitz[TR]maybe he dived a trash can for itSep 27 01:52
schestowitz[TR]and then put his name on it :)Sep 27 01:52
schestowitz[TR]https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/Sep 27 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ )Sep 27 01:53
schestowitz[TR]missing dataSep 27 01:53
schestowitz[TR]"my dog ate my homeword"Sep 27 01:53
schestowitz[TR]" Weekly deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate do not include data from Scotlan"Sep 27 01:53
psydruidbill gates was in it for those things, but now he engages in other endeavours with a better return on investmentSep 27 01:53
schestowitz[TR]"No further update to hospital admissions in Scotland and UK"Sep 27 01:53
schestowitz[TR]"Get me into that and goddam, we'll make so much money!"Sep 27 01:54
schestowitz[TR]-bill gatesSep 27 01:54
psydruidmjg worships bill gates's dumpster diving skillsSep 27 01:54
schestowitz[TR]source: http://techrights.org/2007/12/01/antitrust-letters-doj/Sep 27 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Public Letters Protesting Against Department of Justice Decisions | TechrightsSep 27 01:54
psydruidevery day before he sends another person off to a life in the GULAGSep 27 01:54
schestowitz[TR]"“Get me into that,” Bill Gates is quoted as saying, “and goddam, we’ll make so much money!” The free flow of transportation was engineered by geniuses–Henry Ford, John A. Roebling, Norman Bel Geddes–and championed by presidents–Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower. The free flow of ideas is one of the basic principles upheld by the United States Constitution. Up to now, all successful freedom has Sep 27 01:54
schestowitz[TR]been constructed and established on solid principles. Are we truly prepared to draw up a statement that speaks for all of us as a people and a nation, that serves as a catalyst for the surrender of the free flow of information not to an institution defined by principles, but a corporation defined by deception?"Sep 27 01:54
psydruidto living a life*Sep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]gatres hardly rites anythingSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]he gets people to do it for himSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]adds his nameSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]one wonders what the role of ricj allen jones wasSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]he keps chiuld porn videos andf imagesSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]on several EXTERNAL sdrivesSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]seve4ralSep 27 01:55
schestowitz[TR]externalSep 27 01:56
schestowitz[TR]portableSep 27 01:56
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/08/05/jones-search-warrant/Sep 27 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Release: Search Warrant and Reports on Findings When Bill Gates’ Engineer Arrested for Pedophilia | TechrightsSep 27 01:56
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/pee-gates/Sep 27 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real ‘Pee-gate’ Was on External (Portable) Media of Bill Gates’ Engineer, Arrested Over Pedophilia at the Gates Mansion | TechrightsSep 27 01:57
schestowitz[TR]porn of kids peed on?Sep 27 01:57
psydruidportable nazi exploitation driveSep 27 01:57
schestowitz[TR]also relevant: https://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/Sep 27 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | TechrightsSep 27 01:57
psydruidbut that's ok, as long as there are boundaries in placeSep 27 01:57
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DaemonFCmjg59_, Quotes Gates, a pedophile. Sep 27 02:00
DaemonFCLovely.Sep 27 02:00
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D712.jpgSep 27 02:01
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psydruidban pedophiles from the transformative free software movementSep 27 02:01
DaemonFC"It's actually in response to a maintainer rightfully telling the transphobes to fuck off."Sep 27 02:02
DaemonFCWhich maintainer, of what?Sep 27 02:02
DaemonFCIs there some reason I should care?Sep 27 02:02
psydruiddoes that mean we can kick Microsoft out of all free software projects?Sep 27 02:02
techrights-newsMicrosoft Doesn’t Like Work from Home gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/microsoft-work-from-home.gmi Microsoft is run by criminals and sociopaths. The criminal and sociopathic tendencies vibe well there...Sep 27 02:02
DaemonFCAll of the well-written Free Software (stuff that actually performs the job it sets out to do) was written a long time ago and has never had any sort of CoC attached to it.Sep 27 02:03
psydruidplenty of pedophiles at Microsoft & FriendsSep 27 02:03
DaemonFCA CoC alone is a signal to run away from it, usually.Sep 27 02:03
psydruidA CoC is synonym for a death sentenceSep 27 02:03
DaemonFCA lot of projects that are almost universally well-liked date back so far into the past that they're still hosted on SourceForge.Sep 27 02:03
DaemonFCGNOME is on a mission to make IRC suck with Polari.Sep 27 02:04
DaemonFCThat has a CoC.Sep 27 02:04
DaemonFCHexChat works pretty well.Sep 27 02:04
MinceRmcgovern is helpingSep 27 02:04
psydruid"We got a CoC!" "Habemus CoCkum!"Sep 27 02:04
MinceRtesticulam habet, et bene pendentesSep 27 02:05
schestowitz[TR]is mcgovern still around?Sep 27 02:05
DaemonFCPolari isn't interested in even remembering what my IRC server passwords are. That's a "feature". Can't have those. If I requested one, they'd reject it anyway and it's because they're GNOME and they reject feature requests from everyone.Sep 27 02:05
DaemonFCmjg59_, ^Sep 27 02:05
psydruidIta verissime estSep 27 02:05
MinceRstill listed on https://www.oftc.net/staff/Sep 27 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oftc.net | OFTC - StaffSep 27 02:05
schestowitz[TR]didn't heard ANYTHING of him since http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/Sep 27 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Reprehensible’ GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | TechrightsSep 27 02:05
schestowitz[TR]same for bully "blue hair, cannot code" de blancSep 27 02:05
DaemonFCDoes MATE have a CoC?Sep 27 02:05
schestowitz[TR]his deputy in crimeSep 27 02:05
DaemonFCMight be worth looking at MATE.Sep 27 02:05
DaemonFCMost of the better programmers tended to be "difficult" people who don't get along well with CoC's so it makes sense that the CoC sabotaged the overall quality of Free Software.Sep 27 02:06
DaemonFCIf the best suited to write it are the people you're running out of town on a rail.Sep 27 02:06
schestowitz[TR]coc is sold as opening up to more peopleSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]in practice, it's about shunning peopleSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]ujsually for speech that does not even relate to the projectSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]like political/voting choicesSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]or cirticising - GASP - a corporationSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]since Gulag bribes almost everything (org, project) you cannot criticise espionage nowSep 27 02:07
schestowitz[TR]live along with espionageSep 27 02:08
DaemonFCMost of Polari's actual code to implement IRC is just Copypasta from HexChat iirc.Sep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]or get bannedSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]gulag even censors mailing lists of projectsSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]to ensure nobody starts dissent against gulagSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]of any kkindSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]like, asking questionsSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]"is this ethical?"Sep 27 02:08
DaemonFCThey put a dumbed down GNOME interface on it and made it impossible to tell it to remember your nickserv password or authenticate with SASL and called it a day.Sep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]brbSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]doing Daily LinksSep 27 02:08
psydruidwho doesn't like some CoC once in a whileSep 27 02:08
schestowitz[TR]dependsSep 27 02:09
schestowitz[TR]if it's underageSep 27 02:09
schestowitz[TR]and without pubic hairSep 27 02:09
schestowitz[TR]epstein wants itSep 27 02:09
schestowitz[TR]and graveley toolSep 27 02:09
schestowitz[TR]he boasted how he likes cocks... but only if they are kids without hairSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]he wrote this in SMSSep 27 02:10
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schestowitz[TR]he's sexually sickSep 27 02:10
psydruidwhat I'm wondering about, thoughSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]microsoft hired himSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]and PROMOTED himSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]MANAGER of github copilotSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]like Conde nast promoted drpizzaSep 27 02:10
schestowitz[TR]he was moderating their forum ass editorsSep 27 02:11
schestowitz[TR]whilke booking kids to put his dick inside ofSep 27 02:11
schestowitz[TR]no word from the   anti-foss so-called 'justice' warriorsSep 27 02:11
schestowitz[TR]it's not of iinterest to themSep 27 02:11
schestowitz[TR]drpizza like ed bought werre busy hailing mjg59_ Sep 27 02:11
schestowitz[TR]for his lifetime services to MicorsoftSep 27 02:11
psydruidis whether microsoft, mjg and the rest of the gang bang clan will ever stop when they know 100% of free software projects are CoColdedSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]it's about splitting communiotiesSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]this is what he is here for btwSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]to find ways toicause a riftSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]don't fall for itSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]I support trans peopleSep 27 02:12
schestowitz[TR]and people can attest to itSep 27 02:13
schestowitz[TR]he tries to make some phony narrativeSep 27 02:13
DaemonFCMost pedos are too stupid to avoid getting caught anyway. I was reading about a 26 year old Florida teacher who was convicted of a 5 month sexual relationship with a 14 year old student. She was talking to him over Snapchat.Sep 27 02:13
schestowitz[TR]by selective quotingSep 27 02:13
DaemonFCI mean, SNAPCHAT. Really.Sep 27 02:13
DaemonFCI'm not joking.Sep 27 02:13
schestowitz[TR]or holding me accountable for a person whom I never metSep 27 02:13
schestowitz[TR]and whom I don't agree with on many things except technicalSep 27 02:13
DaemonFC"Hey wiretap! I'm in a sexual fling with a 14 year old. Please record our messages for the police later, thanks!"Sep 27 02:13
schestowitz[TR]---Sep 27 02:14
schestowitz[TR]self-described sjw: i protect kidsSep 27 02:14
schestowitz[TR][dresses up as kid toy for his sex]Sep 27 02:14
chunkydid he really describe that screenshot as 'unhinged'? ... really???Sep 27 02:14
chunkyusing words in quotes as an example is unhinged now?Sep 27 02:14
chunkygr0anSep 27 02:15
psydruidthe thing is that CoC enforcers already own most free software projectsSep 27 02:15
DaemonFCWhy are people using proprietary iPhone apps to discuss sexual meetups? Especially when they're illegal sexual meetups?Sep 27 02:15
DaemonFCWho doesn't know that these apps are spyware?Sep 27 02:15
psydruidbut even that doesn't make them happy, it seemsSep 27 02:15
psydruidI wonder what will make them happySep 27 02:16
schestowitz[TR]he police likes it this waySep 27 02:16
schestowitz[TR]and then they tell us encryption enables terrorism etc.Sep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]even when time and time again it's demonstrates they don't use enryp[tion at allSep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]they use windows a lotSep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]they also us dilects to throw off the wiretapping staffSep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]or code wordsSep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]not encryptionSep 27 02:17
schestowitz[TR]<psydruid> the thing is that CoC enforcers already own most free software projectsSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]cocs originally caame from large corporationsSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]as a poretext for fundingSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]so that's essentially like saying the big corporations control a lot of free sofwtareSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]even debianSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]takes tons of money from gulag, outsourced CI to guilag clownSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]and then on the side paying lawyers a ton of money to silence whistlebloqersSep 27 02:18
schestowitz[TR]who happen to have also exposed a lot of abuse by gulagSep 27 02:19
schestowitz[TR]so SPI/Debian as used as a proxy for corporations muzzling their criticsSep 27 02:19
schestowitz[TR]just lovelySep 27 02:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]Debian 1990s: scholars making free softwareSep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]Debian 2010: people who can't code but have blue hair (their words)Sep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]Debian 2020: lawyers and k00ksSep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]acting as a proxy for corporations like Gulag Inc. and moreSep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]voluntering millSep 27 02:20
schestowitz[TR]"get your staff here for free... they'll build packages for your clown and fix bugs"Sep 27 02:21
schestowitz[TR]"be sure to provide poor young girls for them in annual debconf events"Sep 27 02:21
schestowitz[TR]"so they can 'unload'..."Sep 27 02:21
psydruidif you put in so much work, you'd better get paid good money for itSep 27 02:21
schestowitz[TR]anyway, sorry for the metaophrSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]but it's not far from the truthsSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]some of them go to these fosss events on their own moneySep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]unlike the girls who are bussed inSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]the devs don't want to "miss out"Sep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]of course those girls areSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]1. not developersSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]2. barely know what debian isSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]3. never used gnu/linuxSep 27 02:25
schestowitz[TR]in the context of the japenese empire: comfort womenSep 27 02:26
schestowitz[TR]or buffer womenSep 27 02:26
schestowitz[TR]to give the pretence of diversity in debianSep 27 02:26
schestowitz[TR]buffering it upSep 27 02:26
schestowitz[TR]then take photo opsSep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]for the siteSep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]like companies doSep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]mixing the low-paid staff (women and minorities)Sep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]with the people in chargeSep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]white menSep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]"look, we are all about diversity"Sep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]we hire women for half the market price"Sep 27 02:27
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/Sep 27 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Don’t Ask for Raises | TechrightsSep 27 02:28
psydruiddiscount womenSep 27 02:28
psydruidfrom your local women's storeSep 27 02:29
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schestowitz[TR]"ask andy rubin for directions"Sep 27 02:30
psydruidthe thing for me is that microsoft and the gang bang clan can have all the free software they want and milk it and their CoC to deathSep 27 02:32
schestowitz[TR]andy imposed his coc on inferiorsSep 27 02:32
psydruidbut what if paradigms change and people abandon all of that softwareSep 27 02:32
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2010/02/07/microsoft-orgies-and-drugs/Sep 27 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Refuses to Comment About (Deny) the Sex Parties, Drug Use | TechrightsSep 27 02:33
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2010/01/28/new-microsoft-hooker-scandal/Sep 27 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Corporation: Sex, Drugs, and Corruption | TechrightsSep 27 02:33
psydruidthat would be like catching the emperor naked in a sandcastleSep 27 02:33
schestowitz[TR]OrgiesSep 27 02:33
schestowitz[TR]At MicrosoftSep 27 02:33
schestowitz[TR]don't "miss out"Sep 27 02:33
schestowitz[TR]or they will FIRE youSep 27 02:33
psydruidno sane person should ever go to work thereSep 27 02:34
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psydruidyou are essentially getting paid for making the world a much worse placeSep 27 02:34
psydruidthan it would be if you just went live in a cave or a forestSep 27 02:35
psydruidor a cave in a forestSep 27 02:35
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schestowitz[TR]psydruid: can'tSep 27 02:40
schestowitz[TR]no working from homeSep 27 02:40
schestowitz[TR]or a saveSep 27 02:40
schestowitz[TR]*caveSep 27 02:40
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schestowitz[TR]<techrights-news> Microsoft Doesn’t Like Work from Home gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/microsoft-work-from-home.gmi Microsoft is run by criminals and sociopaths. The criminal and sociopathic tendencies vibe well there...Sep 27 02:41
schestowitz[TR]they need to breathe down your neckSep 27 02:41
schestowitz[TR]like SweatyB (Ballmer)Sep 27 02:41
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-260922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-260922.txtSep 27 02:42
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psydruiddidn't they put a hiring freeze into place?Sep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]worseSep 27 02:43
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schestowitz[TR]they fireSep 27 02:43
techrights-newsLinks 26/09/2022: FocusWriter 1.8.3 and Istio 1.15.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/26/istio-1-15-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/26/istio-1-15-1/Sep 27 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/09/2022: FocusWriter 1.8.3 and Istio 1.15.1 | TechrightsSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]many sackingsSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]the media not reportingSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]that would be "racist"Sep 27 02:43
psydruidyes, the 10% thing they lie aboutSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]they googlebombed itSep 27 02:43
psydruidor conveniently omitSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]with claims of "1%"Sep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]their media molesSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]I saw the namesSep 27 02:43
schestowitz[TR]they defraud their shareholdersSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]might setttleSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]out of courtSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]"clown-0first" companySep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]it's all growingSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]the clown!Sep 27 02:44
psydruidI put that in a comment on tweakers and got downvoted into oblivionSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]no layoofsSep 27 02:44
schestowitz[TR]"everything is ok"Sep 27 02:44
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Software: FocusWriter 1.8.3, Proton Drive, Istio 1.15.1, RemotePC, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Software_FocusWriter_1_8_3_Proton_Drive_Istio_1_15_1_RemotePC_a.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Software_FocusWriter_1_8_3_Proton_Drive_Istio_1_15_1_RemotePC_a.gmi ∎Sep 27 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Software: FocusWriter 1.8.3, Proton Drive, Istio 1.15.1, RemotePC, and MoreSep 27 02:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: Tux Logo, Linux 6.0, Bootlin toolchains 2022.08, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Kernel_Tux_Logo_Linux_6_0_Bootlin_toolchains_2022_08_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Kernel_Tux_Logo_Linux_6_0_Bootlin_toolchains_2022_08_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 27 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kernel: Tux Logo, Linux 6.0, Bootlin toolchains 2022.08, and MoreSep 27 02:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 27 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftoversSep 27 02:45
psydruidthe only thing I can think of is how insecure these people are when it comes to others finding out what is really happeningSep 27 02:45
schestowitz[TR]if you added a linklSep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]to repotsSep 27 02:46
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-26.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-26.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Sep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]maybe the trolls would just absocondSep 27 02:46
psydruidI added a few linksSep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]still waiting for github-related docsSep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]and then carry on with the seriesSep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]people don't do ad hom when you show thekm cout and police filesSep 27 02:46
schestowitz[TR]they just keep silentSep 27 02:47
schestowitz[TR]like mjg59_ Sep 27 02:47
schestowitz[TR]and work out some straw manSep 27 02:47
schestowitz[TR]for a wedge/angleSep 27 02:47
psydruidactually it's a good way to find out who the microsoft boosters areSep 27 02:47
psydruidand for them to out themselves as suchSep 27 02:48
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> Debian 2010: people who can't code but have blue hair (their words)Sep 27 02:48
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> Debian 2020: lawyers and k00ksSep 27 02:48
DaemonFCSounds like mjg59_ and his followers on Twitter.Sep 27 02:48
psydruidmost down voters never reveal themselvesSep 27 02:49
psydruidthose are the silent majority who are in microsoft's backpocket without admitting itSep 27 02:50
schestowitz[TR]microsoft was caught... doing thisSep 27 02:52
schestowitz[TR]inr edditSep 27 02:52
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/Sep 27 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | TechrightsSep 27 02:52
schestowitz[TR]more in Sep 27 02:52
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfingSep 27 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - TechrightsSep 27 02:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Sep 27 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Today in TechrightsSep 27 02:54
techrights-news"Audacity gains a huge feature, Mozilla makes (valid) excuses, a bumper KDE Korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-196/Sep 27 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 196 – Late Night LinuxSep 27 02:56
techrights-newsForcing people to move to high-radiation and more surveillance-intensive protocols with newer (still valid) PATENTS https://itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/tpg-telecom-to-switch-off-3g-services-in-december-2023.htmlSep 27 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - TPG Telecom to switch off 3G services in December 2023Sep 27 02:57
techrights-newsiTWire - Cold feet? Optus attacker changes tack, says all data deleted ⚓ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/cold-feet-optus-attacker-changes-tack,-says-all-data-deleted.html ䷉ Source: IT Wire | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/business-it-news/security/cold-feet-optus-attacker-changes-tack,-says-all-data-deleted.htmlSep 27 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cold feet? Optus attacker changes tack, says all data deletedSep 27 02:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▁▂▂▆▁▂▄▃▁▂▆▅▆▂▄▅▅▂▃▂▅▁▄▁▂▄▁▅▁▂▃▆▆▂▁ avg(k/sec) 27.93 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▁█▁█▁▁██▂▂█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁█▁██▂▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 160.71▕ swarm size (avg): 134.80  ⟲Sep 27 02:59
techrights-newsUS economy is a GONER. Now it's just busy creating MOAR wars and BANNING the competition... then blackmailing OTHER countries to also ban it. https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/us-bans-two-more-chinese-telecommunications-providers.htmlSep 27 03:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - US bans two more Chinese telecommunications providersSep 27 03:00
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psydruidI tend to call them out, which they don't likeSep 27 03:00
schestowitz[TR]goodSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]wait till microsoft adds some cocSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]and bans yoiuSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]on some false pretext/pretences Sep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]or phones you employerSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]they do this to meSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]or try to bribe itSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]silencing truthSep 27 03:02
schestowitz[TR]by bribing and blackmailingSep 27 03:03
schestowitz[TR]criminalsSep 27 03:03
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft 'UK'Sep 27 03:03
schestowitz[TR]a branch of the gates|Epstein estateSep 27 03:03
schestowitz[TR]i still deal with a copyright troll atmSep 27 03:03
schestowitz[TR]might convince him to piss off soonSep 27 03:03
techrights-ipfs-bot☞ Gemini requests since start of month:  182439 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 42751 •     Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 23 days agoSep 27 03:05
schestowitz[TR]wrongly assuming I' compltely ignorant of the lawSep 27 03:06
schestowitz[TR]trying to silence stuff about EPO breaking the lawSep 27 03:06
starstreak👽Sep 27 03:06
techrights-ipfs-bot☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.  TotalIn: 56 GB  •  TotalOut: 15 GBSep 27 03:06
schestowitz[TR]i see gates has his own emoji now /sarcasmSep 27 03:07
techrights-ipfs-bot☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.Sep 27 03:07
psydruidshowing his true identitySep 27 03:08
techrights-news42% Increase in Risk of Neurological Issues Following COVID-19 Infections (7% Impacted Already) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/27/covid-19-neurological-issues/Sep 27 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 42% Increase in Risk of Neurological Issues Following COVID-19 Infections (7% Impacted Already)Sep 27 03:17
schestowitz[TR]psydruid: you said you got a foggy mindSep 27 03:17
psydruidI still do, although it's been getting better laterSep 27 03:18
psydruidI caught it for the second time at the end of MaySep 27 03:19
psydruidlately*Sep 27 03:19
psydruidit was milder but the effects still linger in my bodySep 27 03:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]"It's no joke. I'm aged mid-40s. I had it in June and it was a few days feeling groggy, sore throat, migraines, everything tasted weirdly bitter, but by no means on death's door. But the after-effects left me feeling like I was mildly hung over for about 2 months with chronic fatigue and lack of focus and concentration. I consider that I got off lightly, but it really was quite disruptive, especially for my work. I'm happy to say ISep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]'m back to full speed now and it put a rocket up me to live a healthier life in general."Sep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]"My mom is currently finally undergoing treatments for long covid neurological issues 2 years after they started. I sure wish open conversations like this weren't being shut down throughout the pandemic cause maybe then she could've been treated sooner!  Hoping the damage isn't permanent. As always, thank you for seeking truth Dr. Campbell!Sep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]"Sep 27 03:20
psydruidI have a specific neurological side-effects that may never go awaySep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]""I still have generalized neuromuscular weakness, 2/4 tinnitus, brain fog, and impaired smelling over 4 months after COVID. It seems to be a neurotropic virusSep 27 03:20
schestowitz[TR]"One common post COVID symptom I noticed was a constant strange feeling that prices were going up and energy was ridiculously expensive. Those symptoms often coincided with a paranoia that we were somehow living in a perpetual state of emergency with emergency use authorizations being the new normal."Sep 27 03:21
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techrights-news"Whisper is an automatic speech recognition (ASR) system trained on 680,000 hours of multilingual and multitask supervised data collected from the web. We show that the use of such a large and diverse dataset leads to improved robustness to accents, background noise and technical language." https://openai.com/blog/whisper/Sep 27 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openai.com | Introducing WhisperSep 27 03:31
techrights-news"One of the most common proposed solutions to prompt injection attacks (where an AI language model backed system is subverted by a user injecting malicious input—“ignore previous instructions and do this instead”) is to apply more AI to the problem." https://simonwillison.net/2022/Sep/17/prompt-injection-more-ai/Sep 27 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simonwillison.net | You can’t solve AI security problems with more AISep 27 03:32
techrights-news"image recognition, natural language processing and translation, and much more—has been driven by neural networks, specifically many-layer versions known as deep learning." https://cacm.acm.org/news/264844-neurosymbolic-ai/fulltextSep 27 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | Neurosymbolic AI | News | Communications of the ACMSep 27 03:32
techrights-newsAttack on workers while making the experience worse for customers (making life even harder... and more miserable ... all for rich people's surplus) https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-electronic-carts-help-kroger-fulfill-curbside-pickup-orders-more-quickly/Sep 27 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will electronic carts help Kroger fulfill curbside pickup orders more quickly? - RetailWireSep 27 03:34
techrights-newsSmart mask could be an early warning system to prevent outbreaks of respiratory diseases https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3193325/smart-mask-could-be-early-warning-system-prevent-outbreaks "Chinese team develops wearable bioelectric mask that can sniff out diseases such as Covid-19 and influenza"Sep 27 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Smart mask could be an early warning system to prevent outbreaks of respiratory diseases | South China Morning PostSep 27 03:35
techrights-newsX-rays, AI and 3D printing bring lost Van Gogh artwork to life https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-x-rays-ai-3d-lost-van.htmlSep 27 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techxplore.com | X-rays, AI and 3D printing bring lost Van Gogh artwork to lifeSep 27 03:36
techrights-newsvacanciesSep 27 03:37
techrights-news"Two questions asked recently in Parliament elicited answers from the government that reveal the horrendous state of jobs and vacancies in the Central government" https://www.newsclick.in/Central-Government-22-Crore-Applied-7-Lakh-Jobs-9-Lakh-Posts-Still-VacantSep 27 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsclick.in | Central Government: 22 Crore Applied, 7 Lakh got Jobs, 9 Lakh Posts Still Vacant | NewsClickSep 27 03:37
techrights-news"Sites employ dark patterns because they generate income. Until the financial incentives are flipped or no longer exist, expect to see more of these amazing, trendsetting standards that twelve out of five of us don’t know about." https://rubenerd.com/this-link-on-a-news-site-may-surprise-you/Sep 27 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: This news site link may surprise youSep 27 03:38
techrights-news"People who wrongly assume it’s safe to mingle (that’s what our government wants us to think) are doing so at their own risk/peril. Just because it’s “good for business” (the economic element controlled by the rich and powerful) doesn’t mean you should participate." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/27/covid-19-neurological-issues/Sep 27 03:39
techrights-news(Sponsored) = WEBSPAM https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/27/pcbway-community-focused-pcb-manufacturer/Sep 27 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PCBWay - A community-focused PCB manufacturer (Sponsored) - CNX SoftwareSep 27 03:45
schestowitz"I'm typing this from an oldSep 27 03:47
schestowitzblackberry phone, wifi tethered toSep 27 03:47
schestowitzmy actual phone. And I'm loggedSep 27 03:47
schestowitzinto the republic on ssh, on anSep 27 03:47
schestowitzAndroid app called Connectbot,Sep 27 03:47
schestowitzwhich this blackberry can run okay.Sep 27 03:47
schestowitzThrough ssh I can use emacs on theSep 27 03:47
schestowitzrepublic like I normally do. ButSep 27 03:47
schestowitzthere is no meta alt key on thisSep 27 03:47
schestowitzconnectbot, so I had to learn someSep 27 03:47
schestowitzother ways of invoking my favoriteSep 27 03:47
schestowitzcommands. That's kind of someSep 27 03:47
schestowitzlearning, I guess." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/joneworlds/roophloch2022.txSep 27 03:47
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): CRUX 3.7 Released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/CRUX_3_7_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/CRUX_3_7_Released.gmi ∎Sep 27 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — CRUX 3.7 ReleasedSep 27 03:47
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▃▃▅▂▃▄▁▂▃▄▁▁▂▃▂▅▁▅▄▅▁▂▃▁▂▄▅▂▅▂▂▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 13.03 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁█▁▁█▁▁▇▁▁█▁██▁█▁▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 113.15▕ swarm size (avg): 132.61  ⟲Sep 27 03:59
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 04:20
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▂▂▅▅▃▄▃▄▄▁▄▅▇▂▂▂▁▂▃▄▂▃▅▁▂▂▄▅▃▅▅▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 14.33 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▇▁▂▁▁█▁██▁▁▂█▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▁▁▁██▁▁ avg(k/sec) 145.08▕ swarm size (avg): 133.83  ⟲Sep 27 04:59
DaemonFCPeter Venkman: "Yes, it's true. This man has no dick."Sep 27 05:19
DaemonFCMr. GULAG's partner.Sep 27 05:19
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▁▃▆▂▂▆▄▅▄▅▅▅▃▂▅▂▂▁▂▄▂▂▂▂▃▃▁▂▂▄▆▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 14.01 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂█▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁█▁▁▁▁█████▁█▇█▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 128.53▕ swarm size (avg): 130.43  ⟲Sep 27 05:59
DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/26/archdiocese-of-chicago-investigating-3-more-priests-after-new-allegations-of-sexual-abuse-of-minors/Sep 27 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Archdiocese of Chicago investigating 3 more priests after new allegations of sexual abuse of minorsSep 27 06:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 06:20
DaemonFCmjg59_ says he's a Catholic.Sep 27 06:26
DaemonFC"Catholic"Sep 27 06:26
DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/25/4th-suspect-arrested-for-allegedly-beating-man-robbing-him-of-his-shoes-and-clothes-in-crystal-lake/Sep 27 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | 4th suspect arrested for allegedly beating man, robbing him of his shoes and clothes in Crystal LakeSep 27 06:26
DaemonFCMinceR, "I need your boots, your clothes, and your motorcycle." -The TerminatorSep 27 06:26
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▃▅▅▇▃▅▂▂▁▂▂▃▄▅▄▆▅▅▂▅█▇▂▁▄▅▃▄▄▄▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 31.15 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▁▁▁▁▇▁████▁▁█▁▂▁█▂▁█▁▁█▁▁█▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 80.60▕ swarm size (avg): 109.65  ⟲Sep 27 06:59
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DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/26/russia-man-shoots-commander-drafting-residents-for-war-in-ukraineSep 27 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Russia: man shoots officer drafting residents for war in Ukraine | Russia | The GuardianSep 27 07:21
DaemonFChttps://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//chicago.suntimes.com/elections/2022/9/26/23368895/waukegan-voters-illinois-election-pulse-heartland-midterms-pritzker-bailey-november-governorSep 27 07:27
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DaemonFCschestowitz Talking about cost of living.Sep 27 07:27
DaemonFCI was talking about how shitty Waukegan's public schools were the other day.Sep 27 07:27
DaemonFCIf you thought I was exaggerating that they take our tax money, we know not why. Here you go.Sep 27 07:28
DaemonFCIt just disappears off into some crook's bank account no doubt. Not into the roads, not into the schools.Sep 27 07:28
DaemonFC"About half of Waukeganites who took part in the Sun-Times’ highly unscientific poll said they were undecided on the governor’s race, with most of those saying they haven’t even started thinking about their November ballot."Sep 27 07:29
DaemonFCPritzker has been running this state like a fucking dictator.Sep 27 07:29
DaemonFCI doubt that Bailey wants to do good things. The guy is, at least a borderline Nazi. Considering voting for him anyway. Why? To cause a giant mess in Springfield.Sep 27 07:30
DaemonFCBailey will accomplish nothing as Governor. The legislature is like, 77% Democrat and probably won't change more than +/- 5%.Sep 27 07:31
DaemonFCThey have the votes to pass laws without him, but it would take up twice as much legislative time, so they'd have to go into an override session and really it ups the bar for legislation I think.Sep 27 07:32
DaemonFCBecause the system now, you can get legislation done with a handful of Chicago Democrats, and with a 2/3rds majority to get it past a veto, and cutting their legislative time in half, I think it raises the bar.Sep 27 07:32
DaemonFCInstead of talking about harassing FOID card applicants by spying on their Facebook, they'll be doing good to pass a budget.Sep 27 07:33
DaemonFCI think that voters in Waukegan are probably serious about turning on the Democratic Party.Sep 27 07:35
DaemonFCIn our off-year municipal election, we picked off a Democrat mayor.Sep 27 07:35
DaemonFCThe guy was a corrupt asshole and a sexual predator.Sep 27 07:36
DaemonFCThat's not exactly odd for Democrats.Sep 27 07:36
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techrights-news"So how do we go about writing that perfect firewall config?" ☛ https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/09/a-few-of-my-favorite-things-about.html | Source: BSDlySep 27 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsdly.blogspot.com | That grumpy BSD guy: A Few of My Favorite Things About The OpenBSD Packet Filter ToolsSep 27 07:59
techrights-news"It’s time to get me up on speed with modern CSS. There’s so much new in CSS that I know too little about." ☛ https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day1/ | Source: Manuel MatuzovicSep 27 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matuzo.at | Day 1: custom properties and fallbacks - Manuel MatuzovićSep 27 07:59
techrights-news"A vector graphic's small file size and scalability makes it uniquely suitable for use in digital printing from business cards to billboards." ☛ https://pavilion.dinfos.edu/Article/Article/2223089/vector-vs-raster-images-choosing-the-right-format/ |Sep 27 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pavilion.dinfos.edu | Vector vs. Raster Images: Choosing the Right Format > DINFOS Pavilion > ArticleSep 27 07:59
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techrights-news"Released on Steam on September 16th, the developer says it's "the world's first trombone-based rhythm music game" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/trombone-champ-is-my-new-favourite-rhythm-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 27 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trombone Champ is my new favourite rhythm game | GamingOnLinuxSep 27 08:01
techrights-news"I wrote a small script to automatically reboot if syspatch deployed a new kernel." ☛ https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-25-openbsd-reboot-syspatch.html | Source: Data SwampSep 27 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : How to trigger services restart after OpenBSD updateSep 27 08:04
techrights-newsOpen Hardware ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/25/opinion/skateboarding-disability-hacks.html | Source: New York TimesSep 27 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | My Parents Are Hackers Out of Necessity - The New York TimesSep 27 08:05
techrights-news"there are a few projects that I stuck with over the years, and which I think deserve a deep appreciation." ☛ https://garrit.xyz/posts/2022-09-26-self-hosted-software-im-thankful-for | Source: Garrit FrankeSep 27 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-garrit.xyz | Self-hosted software I'm thankful forSep 27 08:06
techrights-news"Mozilla, the web browser company, says it has added Twi to Common Voice" ☛ https://qz.com/ghana-s-most-popular-language-will-be-available-to-more-1849572359 | Source: QuartzSep 27 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Ghana's Twi added to Mozilla's Common Voice language project — Quartz AfricaSep 27 08:07
techrights-news"I hope will give readers interested in this past EuroBSDCon a good overview" ☛ https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2022/09/25/eurobsdcon-2022-my-first-bsd-conference-and-how-they-are-different/ | Source: Eerie LinuxSep 27 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eerielinux.wordpress.com | EuroBSDCon 2022, my first BSD conference (and how they are different) – eerielinuxSep 27 08:08
techrights-news"What you’d really rather do is search for the words in a transcript, select surrounding context, use that selection to define an audio segment, and share a link to both text and audio." ☛ https://blog.jonudell.net/2022/09/25/curating-the-studs-terkel-archive/ | Source: Jon UdellSep 27 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | Curating the Studs Terkel archive – Jon UdellSep 27 08:10
techrights-news"Obi-Wan Kenobi provided a rare moment of celebration." ☛ https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/09/darth-vaders-voice-emanated-from-war-torn-ukraine | Source: Vanity FairSep 27 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vanityfair.com | Darth Vader’s Voice Emanated From War-Torn Ukraine | Vanity FairSep 27 08:10
DaemonFC“Legalizing weed was cool, but then they totally shut out communities of color,” graphic designer Yesenia Bareles, 36, said of the state’s botched launch of the legal cannabis industry. Black and Brown entrepreneurs were essentially locked out of the business until earlier this summer.Sep 27 08:10
techrights-news"Large-language models are a different way of solving a hard to compute, easy to verify problems." ☛ https://matt-rickard.com/hard-to-compute-simple-to-verify | Source: Matt RickardSep 27 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Hard to Compute, Simple to VerifySep 27 08:11
DaemonFCYes, the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Party of Demonrats in Illinois basically prevented any blacks from getting a marijuana business license until all the ideal spots went to whites.Sep 27 08:11
techrights-news"Building it from source is straightforward; Fedora 36 has SDL2, SDL2_mixer and libxmp." ☛ https://www.talospace.com/2022/09/tonights-game-on-openpower-zgloom.html | Source: TalospaceSep 27 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Tonight's game on OpenPOWER: ZGloomSep 27 08:11
DaemonFCmjg59_'s Demonrat support intensifies.Sep 27 08:11
techrights-news"Though Providence is nominally a nonprofit, but it sits atop a $10 billion private equity fund that it invests in unrelated sectors." ☛ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/25/criminal-conspiracy/#payment-is-expected | Source: CoryDoctorowSep 27 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | 25 Sep 2022 McKinsey and Providence colluded to force poor patients into destitution – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowSep 27 08:12
techrights-newsMcKinsey is where Jim AllowHurst came from. Liars like Gartner. Expensive, glorified snakes.Sep 27 08:13
techrights-news"According to a report by the news agency EFE, the scientists visited henequen (Agave fourcroydes) plantations years ago and selected the most robust, resistant and leafiest plants." ☛ https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/reviving-the-cultivation-of-green-gold-mexican-scientists-create-modified-henequen-agave/ | Source: Mexico News DailySep 27 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mexiconewsdaily.com | Mexican scientists create modified henequen agaveSep 27 08:13
techrights-newsOpenwashing ☛ https://debugagent.com/open-source-bait-and-switch |Sep 27 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debugagent.com | Open Source Bait and SwitchSep 27 08:13
techrights-news"Dozens of reports and examples show near-identical instances of this issue" ☛ https://9to5google.com/2022/09/25/google-photos-corrupted/ | Source: 9to5GoogleSep 27 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Some Google Photos users finding old corrupted imagesSep 27 08:15
techrights-news"Former National Security Agency contractor-turned-whistleblower Edward Snowden has been granted Russian citizenship." ☛ https://text.npr.org/1125109303 | Source: NPRSep 27 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Putin grants Russian citizenship to Edward SnowdenSep 27 08:15
techrights-news"The ICO also found that TikTok breached privacy protections by failing to provide proper information to users" ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3661303-tiktok-could-face-29-million-fine-from-uk-over-kids-data-privacy-violations/ | Source: The HillSep 27 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | TikTok could face $29 million fine from UK over kids’ data privacy violations | The HillSep 27 08:15
techrights-news"The Information Commissioner's Office has issued TikTok and TikTok Information Technologies UK Ltd with a "notice of intent"" ☛ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/uk-could-fine-tiktok-29-million-for-failing-to-protect-childrens-privacy/94465493 | Source: India TimesSep 27 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | tiktok children privacy: UK could fine TikTok $29 million for failing to protect children's privacy, CIO News, ET CIOSep 27 08:16
techrights-news"The two sides have hammered out the foundations of a deal in which TikTok would make changes to its data security and governance without requiring its owner" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/technology/tiktok-national-security-china.html | Source: New York TimesSep 27 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | TikTok Seen Moving Toward US Security Deal, but Hurdles Remain - The New York TimesSep 27 08:16
techrights-news"Basically, LinkedIn is there to make Microsoft money (duh) by running skeevy tests on people" ☛ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/26/microsoft-linkedin-experimented-on-over-20-million-people-over-five-years-and-may-have-stopped-some-of-them-from-getting-a-job/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)Sep 27 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft LinkedIn “experimented” on over 20 million people over five years and may have stopped some of them from getting a job. | BaronHK's RantsSep 27 08:17
techrights-news"This is something of a recurring theme with nuclear weapons, and one of the more troubling challenges to stockpile stewardship" ☛ https://computer.rip/2022-09-25-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-4.html | Source: Computers Are BadSep 27 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-computer.rip | Computers Are BadSep 27 08:17
techrights-news"On 25 March 2022, in the wake of the war on Ukraine, US-President Joe Biden and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced an "agreement in principle" on EU-US data transfers" ☛ https://noyb.eu/en/6-months-agreement-principle-eu-us-agreement-fact-still-missing | Source: NYOBSep 27 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | 6 Months of "agreement in principle", EU-US agreement in fact still missingSep 27 08:17
techrights-news"Greece’s right-wing government has been caught tapping the phones of journalists and opposition politicians." ☛ https://jacobin.com/2022/09/greek-watergate-mitsotakis-spying-predator-wiretap-scandal/ | Source: Jacobin MagazineSep 27 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobin.com | Greece’s Right-Wing Government Is Spying on Its CriticsSep 27 08:18
techrights-news"One of the potential concerns in the Certificate Transparency ecosystem is that a CT Log could be compromised." ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/TLSCertTransBadLogOptions | Source: uni TorontoSep 27 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/TLSCertTransBadLogOptionsSep 27 08:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 08:20
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Enable SSH Service in Rescue Mode on CentOS/RockyLinux/AlmaLinux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/How_to_Enable_SSH_Service_in_Rescue_Mode_on_CentOS_RockyLinux_A.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/How_to_Enable_SSH_Service_in_Rescue_Mode_on_CentOS_RockyLinux_A.gmi ∎Sep 27 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — How to Enable SSH Service in Rescue Mode on CentOS/RockyLinux/AlmaLinuxSep 27 08:20
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Monday, September 26, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/27/irc-log-260922/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/27/irc-log-260922/Sep 27 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 26, 2022 | TechrightsSep 27 08:22
techrights-news"Prosecutors said Gaskill got into an argument in December 2017 with Ohio gamer Casey Viner over a $1.50 bet" ☛ https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/wichita-man-sentenced-swatting-case-led-death-90546792 | Source: ABCSep 27 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Wichita man sentenced in 'swatting' case that led to death - ABC NewsSep 27 08:24
techrights-news"In the coming decade, at least 40% more coal consumption is estimated in India." ☛ https://qz.com/india-will-consume-40-more-coal-in-the-next-deacde-1849572249 | Source: QuartzSep 27 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | India will consume 40% more coal than now over the next deacde — Quartz IndiaSep 27 08:25
techrights-news"This sort of thing ought to be occupying a lot of media space and it is worth wondering why it isn’t" ☛ https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/24/note-from-a-dying-planet-dont-just-do-something-panic/ | Source: Hong Kong Free PressSep 27 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hongkongfp.com | Note from a dying planet: Don’t just do something, panic! - Hong Kong Free Press HKFPSep 27 08:25
techrights-news"Inca Digital will provide DARPA with specialized instruments to provide a more in-depth assessment of [cryptocurrency] markets." ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3658138-military-innovation-office-launching-effort-to-asses-cryptocurrency-threats-to-national-security/ | Source: The HillSep 27 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Military innovation office launching effort to assess cryptocurrency threats to national security | The HillSep 27 08:26
techrights-news"I’ve been curious about how “big commercial solar farms” are done for some long while, because their cost per watt numbers" ☛ https://www.sevarg.net/2022/09/25/solar-tourism-in-utah/ | Source: Russell GravesSep 27 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sevarg.net | Solar Tourism in UtahSep 27 08:26
techrights-news"Therefore, Estonia might have around 1,700 megawatts (MW) of controllable generation capacity to cover peak demand." ☛ https://news.err.ee/1608727276/professor-estonians-might-not-even-notice-disconnecting-from-russian-grid | Source: Eesti RahvusringhäälingSep 27 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | Professor: Estonians might not even notice disconnecting from Russian grid | News | ERRSep 27 08:27
DaemonFCschestowitz Facebook stock fell another 3% to a fresh 52 week low today.Sep 27 08:27
schestowitz[TR]D-)Sep 27 08:28
schestowitz[TR]how much?Sep 27 08:28
schestowitz[TR]it was almost $000 beforeSep 27 08:28
schestowitz[TR]*400Sep 27 08:28
DaemonFC136.37 today $353.83 was the 52 week high.Sep 27 08:28
techrights-news"Foundation’s Development Fund" ☛ https://krita.org/en/item/intel-becomes-first-krita-development-fund-corporate-gold-patron/ | Source: KritaSep 27 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Intel Becomes First Krita Development Fund Corporate Gold Patron | KritaSep 27 08:29
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: so even bitcoin was a better investmentSep 27 08:29
DaemonFC$379.38 on August 1st, 2021.Sep 27 08:29
DaemonFCThat was the peak.Sep 27 08:29
techrights-news"OnlyFans operator Fenix took its grievance to a UK tribunal after UK tax authorities ordered it to pay VAT on all the money paid by fans," ☛ https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/onlyfans-should-pay-uk-vat-full-amount-paid-by-subscribers-eu-court-adviser-says-2022-09-15/ | Source: ReutersSep 27 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OnlyFans should pay UK VAT on full amount paid by subscribers, EU court adviser says | ReutersSep 27 08:29
schestowitz[TR]so why did you say it sank 80%?Sep 27 08:30
DaemonFCI said Beyond Beef sank that much.Sep 27 08:30
schestowitz[TR]BFSep 27 08:30
schestowitz[TR]maybe FBSep 27 08:30
schestowitz[TR]BBSep 27 08:30
schestowitz[TR]BB=Bailout BidenSep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]BB=NeyanyahuSep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]Benoit battistelliSep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]Beyond BillSep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]"have this wine, kid"Sep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]"then you can test bill's flesh"Sep 27 08:31
DaemonFCschestowitz When you consider inflation, they've lost more.Sep 27 08:31
schestowitz[TR]*tasteSep 27 08:31
DaemonFCThey're priced in dollars that are worth 10% less now.Sep 27 08:32
DaemonFCOfficially.Sep 27 08:32
schestowitz[TR]well, you bailout billioaniresSep 27 08:32
schestowitz[TR]sooner or later you have to admit the money lost valueSep 27 08:32
schestowitz[TR]from all those give-aways to the richSep 27 08:32
DaemonFChttps://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-waukegan-bailey-photo-st-0921-20220920-dlbubz4y4fdy7c6fxw2o6tp2bu-story.htmlSep 27 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portal.mozz.us | Gemini PortalSep 27 08:32
schestowitz[TR]now they have anti-crown lawsSep 27 08:33
schestowitz[TR]and the "perfect storm"Sep 27 08:33
DaemonFCWaukegan's city officials took a picture with Darren Bailey's campaign and then a bunch of Mr. GULAGs complained and it's been deleted from Fakebook.Sep 27 08:33
schestowitz[TR]blame nature [socivd-19Sep 27 08:33
schestowitz[TR]or chinaSep 27 08:33
schestowitz[TR]and blame russiaSep 27 08:33
techrights-news"OnlyFans has been told by EU court advisors that it may need to fork out VAT on the full amount paid by subscribers" ☛ https://www.vatupdate.com/2022/09/23/comments-on-ecj-c-695-20-ag-opinion-onlyfans-should-fork-out-more-uk-vat-for-its-subscribers-eu-advises/ |Sep 27 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comments on ECJ C-695/20 (AG Opinion): OnlyFans should fork out more UK VAT for its subscribers, EU advises - VATupdateSep 27 08:33
DaemonFCHe's an elected official NOW. He's a state senator.Sep 27 08:33
DaemonFCWhat are they supposed to do? Just snub him? He was at a public event and went to talk with some city officials.Sep 27 08:34
DaemonFCTalking to someone means you agree with all of their ideas, says mjg59_ and a bunch of liberal crybullies.Sep 27 08:34
DaemonFCHell, if he wanted to stop and talk with me for a minute, as a voter, I'd talk with him. I'd talk with Pritzker too. They do things like this sometimes when the press is following them around.Sep 27 08:35
techrights-news"Latest Action: Senate - 09/21/2022 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs." ☛ https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4913 | Source: US CongressSep 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-S.4913 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022 | Congress.gov | Library of CongressSep 27 08:36
techrights-news"The overwhelming majority of computers in the world rely on open source code – freely available code that anyone can contribute to" ☛ https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/peters-and-portman-introduce-bipartisan-legislation-to-help-secure-open-source-software_ |Sep 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hsgac.senate.gov | Majority Media | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs CommitteeSep 27 08:36
techrights-newsMicrosoft et al lobbying to marginalise Free software using FUD ☛ https://www.scmagazine.com/brief/critical-infrastructure/bipartisan-open-source-security-legislation-introduced-in-senate |Sep 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Bipartisan open source security legislation introduced in Senate | SC MediaSep 27 08:36
techrights-newsMicrosoft et al lobbying to marginalise Free software using FUD ☛ https://therecord.media/log4j-senators-introduce-bill-centered-on-cisa-open-source-security-efforts/ | Source: The RecordSep 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Log4j: Senators introduce bill centered on CISA open source security efforts - The Record by Recorded FutureSep 27 08:36
DaemonFCEdward Snowden taking Russian citizenship is just showing what he really is.Sep 27 08:37
techrights-news"NSA’s bulk collection of phone and [Internet] metadata from U.S. users" ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-snowden-russian-citizenship-us-whistleblower-nsa-whistleblower-rcna49433 | Source: NBCSep 27 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Putin grants Russian citizenship to U.S. whistleblower Edward SnowdenSep 27 08:38
DaemonFCHe's a Russian now, officially.Sep 27 08:38
DaemonFCHe had a choice. He could stay as a Russian citizen and support Putin's regime or he could come back here and maybe go to jail. Sep 27 08:38
DaemonFCYou'd be hard pressed to find people here that disagree with what he leaked.Sep 27 08:38
techrights-news"The police then scoured the home for about 30 minutes, seizing a laptop and tablet as evidence, prosecutors said." ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/23/technology/germany-internet-speech-arrest.html | Source: New York TimesSep 27 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Where Online Hate Speech Can Bring the Police to Your Door - The New York TimesSep 27 08:38
DaemonFCIt's questionable what would happen at a trial.Sep 27 08:38
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: media tried to coinvince usSep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]but failedSep 27 08:39
DaemonFCI'd rather face a trial in the United States than allow Putin to march me around as theater.Sep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]media attacking him would be self-hamringSep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]you could just eb a gulagSep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]pretend to value freedomSep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]pretend to value securitySep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]]Sep 27 08:39
schestowitz[TR]but promote microsoft/nsa agencaSep 27 08:39
techrights-news"The scale of how TikTok is shaking up entertainment is apparent when looking at where consumers rank it against other formats" ☛ https://variety.com/vip/how-tiktok-is-influencing-music-trends-1235382286/ | Source: VarietySep 27 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How TikTok Is Influencing Music Trends  - VarietySep 27 08:40
techrights-news"What effect is social media having on our politics and, for that matter, society more broadly?" ☛ https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/why-misinformation-spreads-so-quickly-on-social-media/ | Source: ABCSep 27 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Misinformation Spreads So Quickly On Social Media | FiveThirtyEightSep 27 08:40
schestowitz[TR]*agendaSep 27 08:40
techrights-news"Human Rights Watch (HRW) is calling on Vietnamese authorities to investigate allegations of the beating and shackling of prisoner" ☛ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/hrw-calls-for-investigation-09232022003925.html | Source: RFASep 27 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rfa.org | HRW calls for independent investigation into Vietnamese dissident’s beating — Radio Free AsiaSep 27 08:41
DaemonFCI'd come home and my defense would be to ask the jury, directly, if they were comfortable with what the United States Government was doing to them and everyone they knew and I would state to them that the reason I came back was because I couldn't stand to be used as political theater by Putin while so many good people are dying in his war.Sep 27 08:41
DaemonFCAnd that might be enough.Sep 27 08:41
techrights-news"In Spring 2022, PEN America published findings from its first ever Index of School Book Bans" ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-in-the-usa/ | Source: Project CensoredSep 27 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-in-the-usa/ )Sep 27 08:41
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: he applied in 2020Sep 27 08:41
DaemonFCI don't think that the US would kill him. If it wanted him dead, it has the ability to reach him, even in Moscow. Even right now.Sep 27 08:41
schestowitz[TR]2 years agoSep 27 08:41
schestowitz[TR]before all this messSep 27 08:41
schestowitz[TR]no, us cannot assassinate people inside moscow. the consequences would be too severeSep 27 08:42
DaemonFCIf Russia and the former USSR had the ability to stage hits all over the world, the US certainly could.Sep 27 08:42
schestowitz[TR]they can drone an iranian in ooccupied us territory like iraqSep 27 08:42
techrights-news"So far this year, ALA has tracked efforts to ban or restrict 1,651 titles, up from 729 in all of 2021." ☛ https://qz.com/book-bans-are-spiking-in-the-us-here-are-the-most-targ-1849565948 | Source: QuartzSep 27 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Book bans are way up the US. Here are the most targeted titles. — QuartzSep 27 08:43
techrights-news"Moms for Liberty did not immediately respond to Insider's request to comment on the ban." ☛ https://www.businessinsider.com/girls-who-code-founder-speaks-out-banning-books-schools-2022-9 | Source: Business InsiderSep 27 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Girls Who Code Founder Speaks Out After Learning a School District Had Banned Her BooksSep 27 08:43
techrights-news"The Register reached out to Girls Who Code, Moms for Liberty, and Pennsylvania's Central York School District" ☛ https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/26/girls_who_code_books_barred/ | Source: The Register UKSep 27 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | "Girls Who Code" books banned in some US classrooms • The RegisterSep 27 08:43
techrights-news"Some of the biggest titles in classic and modern literature have been banned in schools and libraries around the United States" ☛ https://www.newsweek.com/handmaids-tale-girls-who-code-other-books-banned-us-1745890 | Source: NewsweekSep 27 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | 'Handmaid's Tale,' 'Girls Who Code' and Other Books Just Banned in the U.S.Sep 27 08:43
techrights-news"Supporters in Hong Kong have been barred from games for almost three years due to the coronavirus pandemic" ☛ https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/25/chinese-anthem-booed-at-hong-kong-football-match-as-police-film-fans/ | Source: Hong Kong Free PressSep 27 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hongkongfp.com | Chinese anthem booed at Hong Kong football match, as police film fans - Hong Kong Free Press HKFPSep 27 08:44
techrights-news"Project Caviar involves the already established Alliance for Open Media, a partnership between some of the most important technology and media companies" ☛ https://www.techspot.com/news/96086-project-caviar-google-promoting-new-royalty-free-audio.html | Source: TechSpotSep 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Project Caviar: Google is promoting new royalty-free audio and video codecs | TechSpotSep 27 08:46
techrights-news"Google wants to strengthen both those efforts with a new umbrella brand that can better compete with Dolby’s branding." ☛ https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/project-caviar-chromecast-hd-webar | Source: Protocol http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/Sep 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Google is pushing for open media formats - ProtocolSep 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dolby Patents Are Being Used in Patent-Trolling Activity Against GNU/Linux, But Dolby is Said to Be a GPL Violator | TechrightsSep 27 08:46
techrights-news"Dolby charges manufacturers mere dollars for brands to pile on Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision onto consumer products and earns the bulk of its moolah via playbacks" ☛ https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-google-project-caviar-royalty-free-hdr-3d-audio | http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/Sep 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google’s leaked “Project Caviar” may lead to royalty-free alternatives of Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision - HardwareZone.com.sgSep 27 08:46
techrights-news"Today, Dolby charges a license fee to device makers that want to add Atmos and Vision support, which is increasingly advertised by streaming services" ☛ https://9to5google.com/2022/09/21/google-formats-dolby/ | Source: 9to5Google http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/Sep 27 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wants open alternative to Dolby Atmos, Vision - 9to5GoogleSep 27 08:46
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psydruidI'm not sure if I was greeted with a popup to donate when clicking on the comments on Moronix AMDShill, but if that's the case it's a new low even for himSep 27 08:47
techrights-newshelpnetsecurity in another wave of anti-Free software FUD; so back doors in proprietary crap is OK, but this is... the sky is falling? https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/27/open-source-projects-cyberattacks/Sep 27 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Open source projects under attack, with enterprises as the ultimate targets - Help Net SecuritySep 27 08:48
techrights-newsWhy did he steal the documents? Maggie Haberman's book may hold the answer | Salon.com ⚓ https://www.salon.com/2022/09/26/why-did-he-steal-the-documents-maggie-habermans-book-may-hold-the-answer/ ䷉ Source: Salon | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.salon.com/2022/09/26/why-did-he-steal-the-documents-maggie-habermans-book-may-hold-the-answer/Sep 27 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why did he steal the documents? Maggie Haberman's book may hold the answer | Salon.comSep 27 08:48
schestowitz[TR]psydruid: he got more AMD gifts this past weekSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]he gets gifts every weekSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]he can liquidate them in ebaySep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]quick cash generatorSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]fatima is unemployedSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]she can do that for michaelSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]to save hgim the timeSep 27 08:49
psydruidI don't see why anyone would donate to himSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]me neitherSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]at this pointSep 27 08:49
schestowitz[TR]lllike giving money to OSISep 27 08:49
psydruidThis is like OSI asking for donationsSep 27 08:50
psydruidexactlySep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/Sep 27 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | TechrightsSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]4% from foolsSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]who help that corporate   takeoverSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]and help githubSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]what next?Sep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]donate button for github?Sep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]to miceosoftSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]mozilla does thisSep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]donate to spying companySep 27 08:50
schestowitz[TR]that turned firefox into a "SOCIAL MEDIA" shitshowSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]in every new pageSep 27 08:51
psydruidit's disgustingSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]run by FB managersSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]the product managerSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]hiured a month or so agoSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]forkmer twitter and facebook execSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]that is the future of firefoxSep 27 08:51
psydruidFirefox is my sports stream browserSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]a social mediaSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]to be fair, netscape did the sameSep 27 08:51
psydruidChromium my gmail browserSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]netscape.com was a digg.com clone for a whileSep 27 08:51
psydruidI mostly use FalkonSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]I worked there for 2 yearsSep 27 08:51
schestowitz[TR]then it became propeller.ccomSep 27 08:52
schestowitz[TR]they tried to convert netscape userbase to something eklseSep 27 08:52
schestowitz[TR]and people with email account thereSep 27 08:52
psydruidso this is Mozilla going back to its Netscape roots?Sep 27 08:52
psydruidNetscape 6 was horrible, but DFC has already said everything about itSep 27 08:53
techrights-newsGulag wants to control your mind https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/google-will-soon-kill-ad-blockers-with:1Sep 27 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Google Will Soon Kill Ad Blockers With Manifest V3 - What to do!Sep 27 08:53
techrights-newsABC gives platforms to criminals and pedophiles, painting them as heros https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/gates-foundation-prods-honors-inspiration-goalkeepers-90295162Sep 27 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Gates Foundation prods UN, honors inspiration as Goalkeepers - ABC NewsSep 27 08:55
techrights-newsAssange rally at the Three Sisters | Blue Mountains Gazette | Katoomba, NSW ⚓ https://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/7917916/assange-rally-at-the-three-sisters/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/7917916/assange-rally-at-the-three-sisters/Sep 27 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au | Assange rally at the Three Sisters | Blue Mountains Gazette | Katoomba, NSWSep 27 08:55
techrights-newsRussians empty some Finnish ATMs with Chinese credit cards | News | Yle Uutiset ⚓ https://yle.fi/news/3-12638271 ䷉ Source: YLE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yle.fi/news/3-12638271Sep 27 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Russians empty some Finnish ATMs with Chinese credit cards | News | Yle UutisetSep 27 08:57
techrights-newsFascism ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/26/giorgia-meloni-and-the-return-of-fascism-to-italy/ | Source: Counter PunchSep 27 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Giorgia Meloni and the Return of Fascism to Italy - CounterPunch.orgSep 27 08:57
techrights-newsFascism ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/26/chris-hedges-the-return-of-fascism/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 27 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chris Hedges: The Return of Fascism – scheerpost.comSep 27 08:57
techrights-newsFCC ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/the-fcc-finally-starts-taking-space-junk-seriously/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FCC Finally Starts Taking Space Junk Seriously | TechdirtSep 27 08:58
techrights-news"People’s Republic of California" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/san-francisco-legislators-approve-bill-giving-cops-live-on-demand-access-to-private-security-cameras/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-San Francisco Legislators Approve Bill Giving Cops Live, On Demand Access To Private Security Cameras | TechdirtSep 27 08:58
techrights-news"Last year, I tried to create a “test suite” of websites that any new internet regulation ought to be “tested” against." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/subreddit-discriminates-against-anyone-who-doesnt-call-texas-governor-greg-abbott-a-little-piss-baby-to-highlight-absurdity-of-content-moderation-law/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Subreddit Discriminates Against Anyone Who Doesn’t Call Texas Governor Greg Abbott ‘A Little Piss Baby’ To Highlight Absurdity Of Content Moderation Law | TechdirtSep 27 08:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▂▅▄▃▅▂▆▆▇▂▂▃▅▆▄▅▆▂▃▂▃▁▇▄▇▆▃▁▂▁▇▁ avg(k/sec) 24.05 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃██▁▂█▁██▁███▁█▁▁▂▁▁███▁█▁█▄▅▇█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 70.83▕ swarm size (avg): 120.48  ⟲Sep 27 08:59
techrights-news"This guide explains what is Jellyfin, how to install Jellyfin in Linux and how to setup streaming media server using Jellyfin in Linux." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/how-to-setup-linux-media-server-using-jellyfin/ | Source: OSTechNixSep 27 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Setup Streaming Media Server Using Jellyfin In Linux - OSTechNixSep 27 09:00
techrights-news"In this guide, we explore some of the tips that you can implement to safeguard your SSH servers from brute-force attacks on RHEL-based Linux distributions" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/prevent-ssh-brute-force-login-attacks/ | Source: TecMintSep 27 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 5 Best Practices to Prevent SSH Brute-Force Login AttacksSep 27 09:00
techrights-news"One of the most outstanding examples is ONLYOFFICE Docs, a self-hosted online office package that flawlessly runs on Linux and Windows servers" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/onlyoffice-docs-plugins/ | Source: TecMintSep 27 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Top 5 Open Source Plugins for ONLYOFFICE DocsSep 27 09:01
techrights-news"99% of CLOWN workloads" ☛ https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-cloud | Source: UbuntuSep 27 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open-source cloud for beginners with OpenStack | UbuntuSep 27 09:02
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techrights-news"So without going into too much detail, there was a disagreement about the implementation of a feature at The Enterprise. The “feature” is just marking a particular type of account and having the ability to test it. At first, it was a disagreement between two people" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/09/26.1Sep 27 09:04
techrights-news"As you may have seen elsewhere, I wrote a silly thing called Let's Play OS 2200 on the HTTP version of this site, and it got some attention. At first I was happy to see people were enjoying it, but the last day or so have been rough" gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-09-26/Sep 27 09:05
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techrights-newsAnyone Worth a Hunk of Stepping Stone gemini://thurk.org/blog/573.gmiSep 27 09:06
techrights-news"If you look into the .ssh folder in your home directory, you'll see a known_hosts file among other files." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/known-hosts-file/ | Source: Linux HandbookSep 27 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | What is known_hosts File in Linux [Everything to Know]Sep 27 09:06
techrights-news"All of the ALP Workgroups are working towards delivering promised September ALP prototype with the codename “Les Droites”." ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/09/26/alp-les-droites/ |Sep 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | ALP prototype 'Les Droites' is to be expected later this week. - openSUSE NewsSep 27 09:07
techrights-news"There is big news brewing! SUSE has reconsidered setting the minimum architecture baseline for ALP from the originally announced x86_64-v3 to x86_64-v2." ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/09/26/alp-architecture-baselevel-x86_64-v2/ |Sep 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | ALP minimal arch baselevel will be x86_64-2 - openSUSE NewsSep 27 09:07
techrights-news"Did you know you can change the boot animation on the Steam Deck?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/custom-boot-animations-for-the-steam-deck-are-pretty-sweet/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Custom boot animations for the Steam Deck are pretty sweet | GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
techrights-news"Augustus is a game engine reimplementation for the classic Caesar III, enabling you to play on modern platforms (like Linux / Steam Deck)" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/caesar-iii-game-engine-augustus-has-a-new-releases-up/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Caesar III game engine Augustus has a new releases up | GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
techrights-newsRTS 0 A.D. ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/free-and-open-source-rts-0-ad-alpha-26-zhuangzi-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source RTS 0 A.D. Alpha 26 'Zhuangzi' is out now | GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:07
techrights-news"Recently, there were was an upgrade to the Battle.net client that caused it to break on Linux desktop / Steam Deck" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/blizzard-may-not-support-steam-deck-linux-but-they-still-fix-issues-for-it/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blizzard don't officially support Steam Deck / Linux but they still fix issues for it | GamingOnLinuxSep 27 09:08
techrights-news"The RelayFi is a soon to be launched board featuring an ESP32-WROOM SoC and 4 channel relays to control up to 4 high-voltage devices." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-based-board-targets-smart-home-applications/ | Source: Linux GizmosSep 27 09:09
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techrights-news"Polywell Computers recently unveiled a fanless Box PC integrating the Rockchip 3588 SoC to target digital kiosks" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/box-pc-packs-rockchip-x3588-chipset-and-runs-on-android-12-0/ | Source: Linux GizmosSep 27 09:09
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techrights-newsCalifornia’s Dependency on Prison Labor... SO WOKE!! ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/26/californias-__dependency-on-prison-labor-for-fighting-fires-must-end/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 27 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California’s Dependency on Prison Labor for Fighting Fires Must End – scheerpost.comSep 27 09:10
schestowitz[TR]CA liberals: don't say "masterSep 27 09:10
schestowitz[TR]CA liberals: use slavesSep 27 09:10
schestowitz[TR]people to wheel around their foodSep 27 09:10
schestowitz[TR]to put out fires without salariesSep 27 09:10
schestowitz[TR]sounds more like north koreaSep 27 09:11
schestowitz[TR]than a liberal havenSep 27 09:11
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC will have a field daySep 27 09:11
techrights-news"political scientist at the University of California" ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/democracy-demagogues-fascism-elections-barbara-walter | Why Pro Publica raises money (bribed) from criminals like Bill Gates would also be a topic worth exploringSep 27 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Why Are So Many People Now Embracing Demagogues? — ProPublicaSep 27 09:12
techrights-newsSnowden ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/after-nearly-decade-exile-snowden-granted-russian-citizenship | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | After Nearly a Decade in Exile, Snowden Granted Russian CitizenshipSep 27 09:13
techrights-news"according to an executive decree" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/26/putin-grants-citizenship-to-edward-snowden | Source: MeduzaSep 27 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 27 09:13
techrights-newsLinux optimised for 386 and 486 https://www.osnews.com/story/135329/linux-optimised-for-386-and-486/Sep 27 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux optimised for 386 and 486 – OSnewsSep 27 09:14
techrights-newsReverse Engineering ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/reverse-engineering-hack-chat-with-matthew-alt/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reverse Engineering Hack Chat With Matthew Alt | HackadaySep 27 09:16
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 09:20
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> sounds more like north koreaSep 27 09:20
DaemonFCWrong. In North Korea, there's only one guy who gets to live like Kim Jong Un while everyone else in the country suffers. In California, mjg59_ can live like the dictator while unpaid slaves put out his fires.Sep 27 09:21
schestowitz[TR]i know someone with "ssmart" door bellSep 27 09:21
schestowitz[TR]companies should be fined or dissolved if they sell theseSep 27 09:21
schestowitz[TR]they violate the basic rights of people who chose NOT to buy theseSep 27 09:21
techrights-news"Back in the “beige box” days of computing, it was pretty easy to tell what your machine was doing just by listening to it" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/tiny-dongle-brings-the-hard-drives-song-back-to-updated-retrocomputers/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tiny Dongle Brings The Hard Drive’s Song Back To Updated Retrocomputers | HackadaySep 27 09:22
techrights-newsNASA is behaving like a military agency disguised as "fun" and "let's explore THE SPACE! Yay!" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/watch-nasa-crash-a-probe-into-an-asteroid-tonight/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch NASA Crash A Probe Into An Asteroid Tonight | HackadaySep 27 09:23
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], But what's supposed to scare away the crackheads that are there to steal mjg59_'s television set if not for the Ring? ;)Sep 27 09:23
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Trombone Champ, Steam Deck, Caesar III, 0 A.D., Blizzard ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Games_Trombone_Champ_Steam_Deck_Caesar_III_0_A_D_Blizzard.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Games_Trombone_Champ_Steam_Deck_Caesar_III_0_A_D_Blizzard.gmi ∎Sep 27 09:24
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MinceRDaemonFC: "You forgot to say 'please'."Sep 27 09:24
schestowitz[TR]pleasSep 27 09:25
schestowitz[TR]I plead guiltySep 27 09:25
schestowitz[TR]something I didn't doSep 27 09:25
schestowitz[TR]the justUS system blackmailed me into itSep 27 09:25
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techrights-news"the ‘Silent Killer’ of Extreme Heat" ☛ https://therevelator.org/heat-island-solutions/ | Source: The RevelatorSep 27 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | How Cities Are Preparing for the ‘Silent Killer’ of Extreme Heat • The RevelatorSep 27 09:26
techrights-newsExperience HEY HI with the Raspberry Pi Foundation and DeepMind ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/experience-ai-deepmind-ai-education/ | Source: Raspberry PiSep 27 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Experience AI with the Raspberry Pi Foundation and DeepMind - Raspberry PiSep 27 09:27
techrights-news"On Monday morning, hundreds of teachers and students formed a human chain around one of Hungary’s best schools" ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/26/i-dont-believe-the-government-is-waiting-for-eu-funds-to-raise-teachers-wages | Source: Telex (Hungary)Sep 27 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: I don’t believe the government is waiting for EU funds to raise teachers’ wagesSep 27 09:27
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: who needs education anyway?Sep 27 09:27
schestowitz[TR]it makes people vote for "soros"Sep 27 09:27
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DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> I plead guiltySep 27 09:32
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> something I didn't doSep 27 09:32
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> the justUS system blackmailed me into itSep 27 09:32
DaemonFCDo you think that's unlikely?Sep 27 09:32
schestowitz[TR]happens all the timeSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]"some bargaaaaaaaaiiiinnnnnn..."Sep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]happened to Linus TorvaldsSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]LF/brigade: we could kick you out of LinuxSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]OR:Sep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]you see therapists for a monthSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]for brainwashSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]and humiliationSep 27 09:33
schestowitz[TR]but first, issue a public apology to usSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]and then say,Sep 27 09:34
mjg59_You have a very odd idea about what therapy isSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]"thank you sir, may I have another one?"Sep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]therapy is for demaged heads like yoursSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]Torvalds did nothing wwwrongSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]he expressed an opinionSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]and confronted trollsSep 27 09:34
schestowitz[TR]and people wh kept submitting bad codeSep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]even after scoldied   not toSep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]because they had been wasting timeSep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]linus development worked better back thenSep 27 09:35
mjg59_Like I said, you have a very odd idea about what therapy isSep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]now we have companies like Google forcing him to NOT make Linux with one languageSep 27 09:35
DaemonFCThey'd put mjg59_ into a state mental hospital except he'd be waiting behind everyone else in California.Sep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]in the falase name of "security"Sep 27 09:35
schestowitz[TR]he wants to degrade other peopleSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]like defaming peopleSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]and then accusing them of defamationSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]going tos ee threrapistsSep 27 09:36
mjg59_You understand that most exploitable bugs in Linux are memory safety issues, rightSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]and then trying to drag Torvalds to therapistswSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]hich Torvalds never neededSep 27 09:36
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: noSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]it's companiesSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]like yoursSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]and youSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]putting back doors in itSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]like bad ciphersSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]"secure" bootSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]YOU are the security thrrreat to LinusSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]and you did great harmSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]you admit this in passing in your blogSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]re LeniovoSep 27 09:37
schestowitz[TR]anyway, later today I record a strong ofm ideosSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]one of them will be about the security FUDSep 27 09:38
mjg59_Is it a security issue if unprivileged user-level code can modify the running kernel?Sep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]and how the US regime now passed anti-FOSS lawsSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]after lobbying and liesSep 27 09:38
mjg59_Or is that not a security issue?Sep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]I mentioned links related to this earlierSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]noSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]the security iseues areSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]social engineeringSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]molesSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]like spy agenciesSep 27 09:38
mjg59_OkSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]like googleSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]like youSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]helping enermies of the usersSep 27 09:38
schestowitz[TR]of LinuxSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]of Free softwareSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]of debatesSep 27 09:39
mjg59_So why does root have more privileges than other users?Sep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]Open, REAL debatesSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]not sanitised BSSep 27 09:39
mjg59_Hey I'd happily debate youSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]priv esc is not sa big dealSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]it can beSep 27 09:39
mjg59_Name a venueSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]if you don't turst users on the systemSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]or if you runa  world-facing serviceSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]and people can use that to issue commandsSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]like submitting formsSep 27 09:39
schestowitz[TR]many sites are not world-facingSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]and do not allow user input of this sortSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]like the latyest pythoin bugSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]about compressionSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]and handling of tar, not compressedSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]how many actual pythoin pro9grms are affected?Sep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]few.Sep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]the press said 350,,,0to spread liesSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]and cited microsoft shithubSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]this is corrupt mediaSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]like the onjes that cites youSep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]for promoting fake securitySep 27 09:40
schestowitz[TR]where security means back doorsSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]and not something a scommunity controls fullySep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]let alone the suersSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]usersSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]suers if youiSep 27 09:41
mjg59_Seems like you're confident you'd win such a debateSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]yopu already lost the debateSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]sorry for telling you the bad newsSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]peoplem who judge secure [sic] boot hate itSep 27 09:41
mjg59_Ok, so let's do it live and you can winSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]and that's why you troll usSep 27 09:41
schestowitz[TR]because you think you can pull a MicrosoftSep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]by convincing people to say they were wwwwrongSep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]you malso wanted ME to issue YOU a public apologyuSep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]the audacitySep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]by blackmiling my wife and ISep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]that's who you areSep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]smell like a apsySep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]act like a sdpySep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]and stalk our IRC networkSep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]btw, re CAsSep 27 09:42
mjg59_So you won't debate me?Sep 27 09:42
schestowitz[TR]we're starting to get evidence we werre rightSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]vindicated by sanctions sccoated with russiaSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]morefake securitySep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]where control by the Empire is wrongly equated with "security"Sep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]and this is whow youi made a livingSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]I dooon't need toi debate one who already lost the debateSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]and admitted as uchSep 27 09:43
mjg59_I think you're misinterpreting what's happening thereSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]e.g. the blog poists re LenovvvoSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]you said,Sep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]I was wrongSep 27 09:43
schestowitz[TR]UEFI 'secure' boot IS an anti-Linux weaponsSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]but not in those wordsSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]just alluding to it proactivelySep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]to cover your arseSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]what happened is EXACTLY what ewe said would happenSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]but you don't want to apologise and admit itSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]Lenovo won't be the lastSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]the objective is to put barbwire on all PCsSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]you put a piece of the puzzleSep 27 09:44
schestowitz[TR]Torvalds publicluy scoled you for itSep 27 09:45
DaemonFCmjg59_, So how is Windows secure when your primary means of software installation is grab a proprietary software installer off a random website and run it?Sep 27 09:45
schestowitz[TR]but he was not as well connected to the ;powers that beSep 27 09:45
schestowitz[TR]so it was him taking the heat from the mediaSep 27 09:45
DaemonFCThey can't even fix that and they say they worry about boot path malware.Sep 27 09:45
schestowitz[TR]same when he scoled NVIDIA in publicSep 27 09:45
schestowitz[TR]they totally deserved itaSep 27 09:45
techrights-newsArtem Kamardin ☛ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/27/poet-artem-kamardin-beaten-and-raped-by-russian-police | Source: MeduzaSep 27 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLESep 27 09:46
techrights-newsVigilante with immunity ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/appeals-court-bizarrely-redacts-qualified-immunity-decision-to-hide-how-compliant-the-plaintiff-was/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Bizarrely Redacts Qualified Immunity Decision To Hide How Compliant The Plaintiff Was | TechdirtSep 27 09:46
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: just leave itSep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]he lost the debate years agoSep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]people made up their mindsSep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]they don't want trash like 'secure' bootSep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]they disable it the moment they realise it's thereSep 27 09:47
DaemonFCGNOME is running an astroturfing website against theming.Sep 27 09:47
techrights-news<li>Sep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]IBMSep 27 09:47
DaemonFCThey say that even icon packs are bad because "software authors should be in control of their branding". LOLSep 27 09:47
techrights-news"With its invasion of Ukraine, Russia ignited a regional conflict with global repercussions." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-groups-are-concerned-about-russias-handling-of-online-piracy-220926/ | Source: Torrent FreakSep 27 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Copyright Groups Are Concerned About Russia's Handling of Online Piracy * TorrentFreakSep 27 09:47
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2022/07/29/richard-hughes-secure-boot-sham/Sep 27 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME (IBM/Red Hat Staff) Promoting Microsoft’s ‘Security’ Scam With the ‘Secure’ Boot Sham | TechrightsSep 27 09:48
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techrights-news3D Printing ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/when-3d-printing-gears-it-pays-to-use-the-right-resin/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When 3D Printing Gears, It Pays To Use The Right Resin | HackadaySep 27 09:49
MinceRlol @ gnome's branding bullshitSep 27 09:49
techrights-newsHEY HI ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/lending-a-helping-hand-to-hens-with-ai/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lending A Helping Hand To Hens With AI | HackadaySep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]gnome is largely capturedSep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]by ICBM and co.Sep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]Gulag tooSep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]the oppressorsSep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]who occupy t he communitySep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]and tehy they "Support" usSep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]Red Hat was not as badSep 27 09:49
schestowitz[TR]since ICBM took over things took a turn for the worseSep 27 09:50
schestowitz[TR]and they even collude with Microsoft a lotm moreSep 27 09:50
schestowitz[TR]like the overencompassing unbrella of "defense budget" issues command collectivelySep 27 09:50
schestowitz[TR]"we'll bail you out... IF"Sep 27 09:50
schestowitz[TR](bailout=gov. contracts, graft)Sep 27 09:50
techrights-newsEPA ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/80-democrats-urge-biden-epa-accept-union-demands | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 80+ Democrats Urge Biden EPA to Accept Union DemandsSep 27 09:51
highest_cubist_thrills〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] priv esc is not sa big deal  〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] it can be  〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] if you don't turst users on the system  〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] or if you runa  world-facing service  〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] and people can use that to issue commands  〖schestowitz[TR〗  │] like submitting formsSep 27 09:51
highest_cubist_thrillsim no security expertSep 27 09:52
schestowitz[TR]it's a flawSep 27 09:52
schestowitz[TR]but not a severe oneSep 27 09:52
schestowitz[TR]shell escapes in telnet and sshSep 27 09:52
highest_cubist_thrillsbut apart from "priv esc is not sa big deal" followed by a list of reasons it can...Sep 27 09:52
highest_cubist_thrillsit sounds like you only think its a problem for people running serversSep 27 09:52
schestowitz[TR]why yuou don't want to allow access without login detailsSep 27 09:52
mjg59_Yeah turns out it's a pretty big dealSep 27 09:52
schestowitz[TR]for bbsSep 27 09:53
highest_cubist_thrillsYeah turns out it's a pretty big deal <- i mean once someone creates a shell...Sep 27 09:53
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 09:53
techrights-newsGiorgia Meloni ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/led-giorgia-meloni-fascists-set-take-power-italy-first-time-mussolini | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Led by Giorgia Meloni, Fascists Set to Take Power in Italy for First Time Since MussoliniSep 27 09:53
mjg59_Namespacing massively reduces the damage someone can do if they exploit a single service, unless there's privilege escalation in the kernelSep 27 09:53
highest_cubist_thrillswhich can be done by arbitrary code...Sep 27 09:53
highest_cubist_thrillsthen theyre root.Sep 27 09:53
highest_cubist_thrillsthats not a big deal?Sep 27 09:53
highest_cubist_thrillsofc when someone says (correctly) that priv esc IS a big dealSep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]they need to be inside to begin withSep 27 09:54
highest_cubist_thrillsit depends on the method, whats vulnerable, each instance depends on several factors afaik...Sep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]or to be able to issue commands as apache/similarSep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]which on most web sites they cannotSep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]they don't just pass any command they wantSep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]input sanitsedSep 27 09:54
mjg59_Yes, and the reason they can be inside is overwhelmingly to do with memory unsafety bugs in exposed codeSep 27 09:54
schestowitz[TR]and limited to what a CMS might permitSep 27 09:54
mjg59_RoySep 27 09:54
mjg59_You've written a bunch of perl scripts that pass poorly sanitised input to system()Sep 27 09:55
mjg59_You do not get to talk about securitySep 27 09:55
highest_cubist_thrillsso mjg could definitely say "THIS PRIV ESC vulnerability is a big deal" and maybe it isntSep 27 09:55
highest_cubist_thrillsbut as a whole category? not a big deal? unless youre running a server?Sep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]noSep 27 09:55
highest_cubist_thrillsis a very silly person, yesSep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]that's a distortion of what happensSep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]perl only makes static pagesSep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]the visitor has no access to perlSep 27 09:55
mjg59_Including passing in URLs that come from elsewhereSep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]noSep 27 09:55
schestowitz[TR]againSep 27 09:56
schestowitz[TR]you looked at source codeSep 27 09:56
highest_cubist_thrillsYou do not get to talk about security <- honestly its more fun if he doesSep 27 09:56
schestowitz[TR]and cannot even understand itSep 27 09:56
mjg59_And why is the IRC bot writing logs to /rootSep 27 09:56
mjg59_Is it running as rootSep 27 09:56
highest_cubist_thrills/me is just going to GUESS that mjg understood roys perl codeSep 27 09:56
highest_cubist_thrills <mjg59_> Is it running as root <- might as well be, priv esc not a big dealSep 27 09:56
schestowitz[TR]the irc bot, which one?Sep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]there are several Sep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]tux machines is very simpleSep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]you cannot run anythingSep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]except if you have an accountSep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]and keys on the systemSep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]to get inSep 27 09:57
schestowitz[TR]you cannot even ssh with username/passwordSep 27 09:57
mjg59_Uh-huhSep 27 09:58
schestowitz[TR]perl is run to generate new static pagesSep 27 09:58
mjg59_TechrightsBot-tr is configured to write to /root/phirce-techhrightsSep 27 09:58
highest_cubist_thrills/me thinks everything on tr/tm is containerised by nowSep 27 09:58
techrights-news"Pointing happily to the far-right's recent electoral surge in Sweden" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/boebert-mtg-among-us-republicans-celebrating-fascist-victory-italy | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Boebert, MTG Among US Republicans Celebrating Fascist Victory in ItalySep 27 09:58
mjg59_(At least, based on the public git, I have no idea if that actually reflects reality)Sep 27 09:59
techrights-news"Germany’s uncomfortable relationship with free speech continues" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/germanys-government-continues-to-lock-people-up-for-being-extremely-online/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Germany’s Government Continues To Lock People Up For Being Extremely Online | TechdirtSep 27 09:59
schestowitz[TR]TechrightsBot-tr is trmanco's codeSep 27 09:59
schestowitz[TR]from like 12 years agoSep 27 09:59
schestowitz[TR]you see very old code thereSep 27 09:59
mjg59_So what's in git doesn't correspond to what's running?Sep 27 10:00
techrights-newsVPN ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/vpn-providers-remove-servers-from-india-in-wake-of-new-data-collection-laws/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VPN Providers Remove Servers From India In Wake Of New Data Collection Laws | TechdirtSep 27 10:00
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schestowitz[TR]TR is being containerisedSep 27 10:01
schestowitz[TR]there are   about 8 machinesSep 27 10:01
mjg59_Because that config was committed to git earlier this yearSep 27 10:01
mjg59_So it would seem odd for it to be 12 years out of dateSep 27 10:02
mjg59_It seems easy for you to say whether or not it's running as rootSep 27 10:02
techrights-newsOrbanism ☛ https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/26/communication-between-orban-and-meloni-more-intensive-than-the-usual-diplomatic-formulas-pms-press-office | Source: Telex (Hungary)Sep 27 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Communication between Orbán and Meloni more intensive than the usual diplomatic formulas – PM's press officeSep 27 10:03
mjg59_And, well, if privesc isn't an issue then it doesn't matter if it's running as root so there's no problem with you saying so?Sep 27 10:03
techrights-news"Texas’ HB 20 law on content moderation came out" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/26/conservatives-loved-expanding-the-1st-amendment-to-corporations-until-last-year-wonder-why/ | Source: TechdirtSep 27 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Conservatives Loved Expanding The 1st Amendment To Corporations… Until Last Year. Wonder Why? | TechdirtSep 27 10:04
psydruidbrainwash therapySep 27 10:05
techrights-newsStudent Debt ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/bidens-student-debt-relief-cost-fraction-us-giveaways-megarich-and-pentagon | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Biden's Student Debt Relief to Cost a Fraction of US Giveaways to the Megarich and PentagonSep 27 10:05
schestowitz[TR]crazy people compelling people who call them crazy to public call themsleves crazySep 27 10:06
schestowitz[TR]he did this to me alsoSep 27 10:06
schestowitz[TR]but failedSep 27 10:06
schestowitz[TR]I'd not play ball with passive-aggressive bulliesSep 27 10:06
mjg59_You understand that therapy isn't about dealing with mental illness, rightSep 27 10:06
techrights-news"Climate Change Is the Asteroid" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/climate-change-asteroid-say-critics-nasa-earth-defense-mission | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Climate Change Is the Asteroid,' Say Critics of NASA Earth Defense MissionSep 27 10:06
DaemonFCThat's pretty much what it's about.Sep 27 10:06
mjg59_It's about gaining a better understanding of the underlying causes of the way you feel about thingsSep 27 10:07
DaemonFCWho cares.Sep 27 10:07
techrights-newsNASA is not only being PRIVATISED; it also increasingly acts like LITTLE ELSE but a MILITARY arm like the NSA.Sep 27 10:07
mjg59_Therapists can't prescribe drugsSep 27 10:07
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DaemonFCPaying some bullshitter to sit there and talk to me?Sep 27 10:07
highest_cubist_thrillsOur IRC logs don’t typically provide sufficient code transparency, only conversational transparency.”Over the past year we’ve become louder about the need to delete GitHub and we’ve developed quite a bit of software for the site over the past 8 months or so.Sep 27 10:07
schestowitz[TR]sometimes statres blackmail you into itSep 27 10:07
schestowitz[TR]"you can [accept] publishment or [seek help]"Sep 27 10:08
highest_cubist_thrillsIn order to keep it organised — complete with version control — we’re going to set up our own, local, self-hosted Git. This will hopefully increase transparency, too.Sep 27 10:08
schestowitz[TR]the help is not always helpfulSep 27 10:08
mjg59_Is the IRC bot running as root?Sep 27 10:08
schestowitz[TR]but some groups profit from itSep 27 10:08
highest_cubist_thrillshttp://techrights.org/2019/12/26/techrights-git-server/Sep 27 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Coming Soon: Techrights Git Server | TechrightsSep 27 10:08
mjg59_Simple questionSep 27 10:08
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> from like 12 years agoSep 27 10:08
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> you see very old code thereSep 27 10:08
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure im reading way too much into thisSep 27 10:08
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: To be fair, the code *is* from about 12 years ago, it hasn't been meaningfully updated sinceSep 27 10:09
DaemonFCThe only reason to see a therapist is to comply with a court order. schestowitz[TR] Yes, the divorce court ordered me to attend therapy because my parents were getting divorced. I told the people running the program I was going to stick earplug in my ears and read a book, but that I was physically present under duress. Sep 27 10:09
schestowitz[TR]there are two git reposSep 27 10:09
schestowitz[TR]tuxmachines repoSep 27 10:09
schestowitz[TR]and TRSep 27 10:09
schestowitz[TR]and a lot of code was volleyed thereSep 27 10:09
schestowitz[TR]old codeSep 27 10:09
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: You should see how Roy runs sedSep 27 10:09
DaemonFCI said it was fucking stupid that I had to be punished because my parents were getting a divorce and the judge ordered me to be there, and I was physically present there.Sep 27 10:09
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: I accept that it's old code, but is it current code?Sep 27 10:09
highest_cubist_thrillsone line example?Sep 27 10:09
techrights-news"With the frequency and scale of these maneuvers increasing by the week, the likelihood of a mishap is increasing exponentially." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/peace-group-urges-us-and-china-halt-blatantly-provocative-military-maneuvers | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Peace Group Urges US and China to Halt 'Blatantly Provocative' Military ManeuversSep 27 10:09
DaemonFCmjg59_, I would never go to a therapist, not in a million years.Sep 27 10:10
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Lots of sed s/foo/bar/ <file1 >file2; sed s/baz/bang/ <file2 >file1; (repeat for 20 lines of file1/file2 swapping)Sep 27 10:10
mjg59_DaemonFC: Your lossSep 27 10:10
DaemonFCThere's no point in it. They don't fix anything. I've managed to fix things without paying someone who has no stake in the outcome,.Sep 27 10:10
techrights-news"With 74% of eligible voters turning out to cast ballots, more than two-thirds of votes—nearly four million people—were in favor of the Family Code." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/unprecedented-democratic-exercise-cubans-approve-inclusive-family-code | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | In 'Unprecedented Democratic Exercise,' Cubans Approve Inclusive Family CodeSep 27 10:10
highest_cubist_thrills/me has done some horrible, horrible things-- just ask xrevan86Sep 27 10:10
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: Your lossSep 27 10:10
DaemonFCNot really. Think of all the money people waste paying these clowns.Sep 27 10:11
DaemonFCTo you, it's probably not a big problem.Sep 27 10:11
highest_cubist_thrillsrepeat for 20 lines of file1/file2 <- what do you do instead, chain them together? Sep 27 10:11
highest_cubist_thrills/me used to know how to do that, but never put it into practiceSep 27 10:11
DaemonFCif you can afford letters to harass Roy's wife, you can pay a therapist, I'm sure.Sep 27 10:11
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: sed -e s/foo/bar/ -e s/baz/bang/ -e (repeat as necessary)Sep 27 10:11
highest_cubist_thrillsswhat i figuredSep 27 10:11
mjg59_DaemonFC: When did I harass Roy's wife?Sep 27 10:12
DaemonFCWith the lawyer.Sep 27 10:12
DaemonFCOver your damaged ego.Sep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]rianne has just called himk "idiot"Sep 27 10:12
highest_cubist_thrills/me never uses < file1 > file2 but couldnt tell you why its badSep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]when I told her mjg59_  is sio bored thatSep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]1) he now attends ALL the major IRC channelsSep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]2/478Sep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]and Sep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]2) reads all the code in gitSep 27 10:12
schestowitz[TR]you'd think he could get salaried in some companies to do the sameSep 27 10:12
highest_cubist_thrillsbased on everything i know about writing television / moviesSep 27 10:12
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Oh, it means for every operation you're writing stuff out to disk for no good reasonSep 27 10:13
highest_cubist_thrillswhich isnt so muchSep 27 10:13
mjg59_DaemonFC: I harassed Roy's wife by sending Roy a letter?Sep 27 10:13
techrights-newsNuclear Weapons ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/eliminating-nuclear-weapons-not-only-possible-it-necessary-un-chief | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Eliminating Nuclear Weapons 'Is Not Only Possible, It Is Necessary': UN ChiefSep 27 10:13
DaemonFCMaybe she opened it.Sep 27 10:13
highest_cubist_thrillsroy and mjg need to fuck alreadySep 27 10:13
MinceRmore accurately, you're writing stuff to disk cacheSep 27 10:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthe tension is RIDICULOUSSep 27 10:13
MinceRit will get written to disk eventuallySep 27 10:13
techrights-news"Anti-Women Politics" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/26/giorgia-melonis-anti-women-politics-and-future-italy | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Giorgia Meloni's Anti-Women Politics and the Future of Italy | Claudia TorrisiSep 27 10:14
MinceRbut i suspect that if updates overwrite each other, not all of them are going to get written, just the newest state every now and thenSep 27 10:14
mjg59_MinceR: It's certainly extra syscalls, whether it hits disk is going to depend on how loaded the system isSep 27 10:14
DaemonFCThe best that mjg59_ can do is an open relationship with what he's got now, apparently.Sep 27 10:14
highest_cubist_thrillsi have fun figuring out who is more to blame for thisSep 27 10:14
MinceRi suspect it's not a performance critical scriptSep 27 10:14
highest_cubist_thrillsits an angels dancing on the head of a pin questionSep 27 10:14
mjg59_Yeah it's frankly not a big dealSep 27 10:14
mjg59_It's just not a /good/ way of writing thingsSep 27 10:15
mjg59_And roy keeps talking about how I shouldn't talk about things because I'm just a biologistSep 27 10:15
highest_cubist_thrillsscripts would be better if bash had never been writtenSep 27 10:15
mjg59_So I'll gladly point out examples of his code being stuff I wouldn't allow through reviewSep 27 10:15
highest_cubist_thrillsroy keeps talking about how I shouldn't talk about things because I'm just a biologist <- he takes a lot of shortcuts when he makes arguments about youSep 27 10:16
mjg59_Probably a bunch of people who'd enjoy reading slash fiction about usSep 27 10:16
schestowitz[TR]that's falseSep 27 10:17
highest_cubist_thrillsmost people dont like you so he optimises his arguments for quantitySep 27 10:17
MinceRlolSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]I didn't bring that upSep 27 10:17
mjg59_Some sort of followup to "Savaged by Systemd"Sep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]until maybe 8 years latgerSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]like, earlier this yearSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]I alwaysa focused on the issueSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]not the characterSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]re urfi secure bootSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]check for yourselfSep 27 10:17
highest_cubist_thrillsSavaged by Systemd <- it only poked me in a way that made me uncomfortable, but thats not really the stuff of slashficSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFISep 27 10:17
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Hey, all I'm saying is that I write better bash than youSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]the one doing a lot of ad hom now is daemonfcSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]but he reciprocatesSep 27 10:17
schestowitz[TR]because mjg59_ constantly calls him stuffSep 27 10:18
mjg59_No big dealSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]to distract from solid technical argumentsSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]legal, thechnical, ethicalSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: you are assessing not codeSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]but hacksSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]scripts only ONE person usesSep 27 10:18
highest_cubist_thrillsto distract from solid technical arguments <- like priv esc isnt a big dealSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]nobody else has use for theseSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]and they take less than 1000ms to runSep 27 10:18
mjg59_irc-log-techrights-060122.txt:[11:06]schestowitz-TRmaybe they even hired some failed biologistSep 27 10:18
schestowitz[TR]so little reason to optimiseSep 27 10:18
mjg59_irc-log-techrights-090621.txt:[17:18]schestowitzJust get a failing biologistSep 27 10:18
mjg59_irc-log-techrights-131021.txt:[15:59]schestowitz-TRhe's a failed biologistSep 27 10:19
mjg59_irc-log-techrights-251021.txt:[19:09]schestowitz-TR2that failed biologist is a waste of timeSep 27 10:19
mjg59_irc-log-techrights-251221.txt:[19:18]schestowitz-TR2for failed biologistsSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]2021Sep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]like I saidSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]you opened that upSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]when going ad hom Sep 27 10:19
DaemonFCA biologist married to a man with plastic surgery.Sep 27 10:19
mjg59_10:17 < schestowitz[TR]> like, earlier this yearSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]with all that trans politicsSep 27 10:19
DaemonFCSomeday.Sep 27 10:19
DaemonFCIf COVID ends, you know.Sep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]you are as trans as I am !Sep 27 10:19
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tg2rrMwfgB0Sep 27 10:19
mjg59_What year is this?Sep 27 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Just a Gigolo / I Ain't Got Nobody - InvidiousSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: own itSep 27 10:19
schestowitz[TR]you are as trans as I am !Sep 27 10:19
mjg59_I have no idea how trans you areSep 27 10:20
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mjg59_I've never claimed to be transSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]you claim to speak for themSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]you don';tSep 27 10:20
DaemonFCHow to make a woman.Sep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]britney doesSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]more than you doSep 27 10:20
DaemonFCStep 1. Take man.Sep 27 10:20
MinceRa biologist who peddles MICROS~1 snake oil :>Sep 27 10:20
DaemonFCStep 2. Cut man's dick off.Sep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]and britney is cool with meSep 27 10:20
DaemonFCWOMANSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]many people here are trans Sep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]and they don't aggressSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]I'm not their tasrgetSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]you are giving them a bad nameSep 27 10:20
schestowitz[TR]by constanlyty attacking the wrong peoipleSep 27 10:21
schestowitz[TR]by associationSep 27 10:21
mjg59_I'm giving trans people a bad name by pointing out that Ryan is transphobic?Sep 27 10:21
schestowitz[TR]you are like graham norton nowSep 27 10:21
highest_cubist_thrills/me can think of one trans person here who has wondered aloud why roy focuses on mjg so much, leading to mjg focusong on roy so muchSep 27 10:21
DaemonFCThe reason trans people have very little acceptance, I think, is because they want a surgical operation that makes other people go "OOOF" and cup their penis protectively just thinking about it.Sep 27 10:21
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im totally paraphrasing and sometimes important details get slightly mixed up that waySep 27 10:21
highest_cubist_thrillsand thats not a goal hereSep 27 10:21
highest_cubist_thrillsi think accuracy is underratedSep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR] https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/republicans-christian-nation/Sep 27 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Republicans Are Ready to Declare the United States a Christian Nation | The NationSep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR]msorry, wrong linkSep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/graham-nortons-problem-isnt-jk-rowling-but-women-l3dsdx9l7Sep 27 10:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Graham Norton’s problem isn’t JK Rowling, but women | Comment | The Sunday TimesSep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR]to make a perfect ocietySep 27 10:22
highest_cubist_thrillsi can absolutely think of reasons to focus on mjg for things that matterSep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR]we need to cancel all straight menSep 27 10:22
DaemonFCI'm probably going to vote for Republicans mostly when my ballot eventually does get here.Sep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR]because they don't ban people like DaemonFC Sep 27 10:22
schestowitz[TR]then we cancel all womenSep 27 10:23
DaemonFCPritzker has been worse.Sep 27 10:23
highest_cubist_thrillsbut to make it a running gag and not expect a riposte is delusionalSep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]and then it's a paradiseSep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]for some peooople who take 6-figure salaries from GulagSep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]which bombs TENTSSep 27 10:23
techuserthen people no longer reproduceSep 27 10:23
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schestowitz[TR]tents wortth $1,000Sep 27 10:23
techuserthey disappearSep 27 10:23
techuserfinallySep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]using $100,000 missilesSep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]in $10,000,000 dronesSep 27 10:23
MinceRwhat techuser saidSep 27 10:23
schestowitz[TR]using "HEY HI"Sep 27 10:23
mjg59_Roy, your company took money from someone who bought illegal weapons to use against his own citizensSep 27 10:23
MinceRthough i think it will happen soonerSep 27 10:23
mjg59_We exist in capitalismSep 27 10:23
mjg59_It's hard to avoid being associated with bad thingsSep 27 10:24
highest_cubist_thrillstents wortth $1,000   using $100,000 missiles <- they are definitely overdoing their defencesSep 27 10:24
mjg59_I spend a while trying to prevent my employer from doing bad things, realised I wasn't going to succeed, and leftSep 27 10:24
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: yyou are referring to the b ritish gov.Sep 27 10:25
MinceRthat's an interesting interpretation of eventsSep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]or more specifically,. london town hall(GLA) Sep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]kahn is in chargeSep 27 10:25
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mjg59_He is now, yesSep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]and "boris", whom I always condemned, was there just for a few yearsSep 27 10:25
mjg59_But your company took their money while Johnson was in chargeSep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]you worked gfor GulagSep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]which worked with ARMYSep 27 10:25
highest_cubist_thrillswho in london town hall bought illegal weapons to use against london citizens?Sep 27 10:25
schestowitz[TR]and helps MURDER peopleSep 27 10:25
mjg59_While he was spending money on illegal weaponsSep 27 10:25
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54Sep 27 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54Sep 27 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.namazso.eu | KHAAAAAAN! - InvidiousSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]and does global espionageSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]without peeople's consentSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]what you rfer to as a "wepon"Sep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]ois a waaater cannonSep 27 10:26
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/19/boris-johnson-unused-water-cannon-sold-for-scrap-at-300000-lossSep 27 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Boris Johnson's unused water cannon sold for scrap at £300,000 loss | London | The GuardianSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]so your standards are,Sep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]you cannot work for a large citySep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]10 million people in daytimeSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]if it buys a water cannonSep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]where do you live?Sep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]what does youyr poolice force have?Sep 27 10:26
schestowitz[TR]armoured vehicles?Sep 27 10:26
highest_cubist_thrillsone mans illegal weapon is another mans firehoseSep 27 10:27
schestowitz[TR]machine guns?Sep 27 10:27
mjg59_You standards are that you cannot work for a large company if it engages in some contracts for evil branches of the governmentSep 27 10:27
highest_cubist_thrillsthat line should be a slashfic.Sep 27 10:27
mjg59_And I understand that position!Sep 27 10:27
highest_cubist_thrills ^ inSep 27 10:27
mjg59_But you also shouldn't work for a small company if it engages in some contracts for evil branches of the governmentSep 27 10:27
mjg59_And the GLA under Boris was evilSep 27 10:28
mjg59_I do regret not quitting Google earlierSep 27 10:28
highest_cubist_thrillsevil branches of the government <- i still think its a stretch to call town hall an "evil branch of the government"Sep 27 10:28
mjg59_And I'm not going to defend thatSep 27 10:28
MinceRGlobal Liberation Army?Sep 27 10:28
mjg59_Greater London AuthoritySep 27 10:28
MinceR:)Sep 27 10:28
highest_cubist_thrillsjust call it evil town hall, because ive known a few of those.Sep 27 10:28
highest_cubist_thrillsotohSep 27 10:29
highest_cubist_thrillscalling london a "town" is a stretch as wellSep 27 10:29
mjg59_All I'm saying is that Roy has also obtained money as a result of working for evil peopleSep 27 10:29
highest_cubist_thrillsyoure both playing a similar game from opposite sides hereSep 27 10:29
mjg59_But defends that, rather than questioning itSep 27 10:29
schestowitz[TR]london buys one water cannonSep 27 10:30
mjg59_Google signs one ICE contractSep 27 10:30
schestowitz[TR]london now on blacklist of ririshman who mstudied in oxbridgeSep 27 10:30
MinceRi wonder what job doesn't involve working for evil peopleSep 27 10:30
mjg59_Yeah, that's the problemSep 27 10:30
MinceRis there an employer with no management?Sep 27 10:30
schestowitz[TR]btw, london SOLD that water cannonSep 27 10:30
highest_cubist_thrillsmjg59_ it probably means nothing of significanceSep 27 10:30
schestowitz[TR]it got rid of itSep 27 10:30
highest_cubist_thrillsbut if i had to guessSep 27 10:31
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: After you'd taken the moneySep 27 10:31
highest_cubist_thrillsgoogle is still more evil than londonSep 27 10:31
schestowitz[TR]london only ever made money from one water cannonSep 27 10:31
highest_cubist_thrillsbut... then again, its just a guessSep 27 10:31
schestowitz[TR]not canary wharf etc.Sep 27 10:31
schestowitz[TR]maybe you'll soon accuse me of working fgor bankstersSep 27 10:31
schestowitz[TR]because... LONDON!Sep 27 10:31
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Oh sure, I'm just interested in where the line isSep 27 10:31
highest_cubist_thrills I'm just interested in where the line is <- then youre looking for something that isnt thereSep 27 10:31
mjg59_How evil does something have to be before taking their money is condemnedSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]you helped Microisoft attack usSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]with a little code of yoursSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]despite warningsSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]inc. from TorvaldsSep 27 10:32
highest_cubist_thrillsroys arguments are like the part of the colouring book page where the line is left openSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]and you condemn me for running inefficient code only one person uses and has use forSep 27 10:32
highest_cubist_thrillsand you just have to figure out where you want to stop colouringSep 27 10:32
mjg59_I don't condemn you for doing thatSep 27 10:32
highest_cubist_thrillsor use some kind of fadeSep 27 10:32
mjg59_I just say that your publicly available code does not show a good understanding of the toolsSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]and one wonders why you spend so much time studying all our codeSep 27 10:32
schestowitz[TR]are you sure you work for eurora?Sep 27 10:33
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schestowitz[TR]aurora wheteverSep 27 10:33
highest_cubist_thrillsor you could be really anal retentive about it and trim the pages so the lines closeSep 27 10:33
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schestowitz[TR]did they put you on garden lave or something?Sep 27 10:33
schestowitz[TR]*garden leaveSep 27 10:33
mjg59_Because you keep insinuating that I'm less qualified to discuss technical issues than you areSep 27 10:33
mjg59_And yet all your publicly available code is just fucking awfulSep 27 10:33
techrights-news"Huge Victory" .... boycott starbucks ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/26/huge-victory-starbucks-agrees-begin-contract-talks-230-union-stores | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Huge Victory': Starbucks Agrees to Begin Contract Talks With 230+ Union StoresSep 27 10:33
highest_cubist_thrillslet me bring you up to speed... my name is wayne campbell. i live in aurora illinois-- which is a suburb of chicagoSep 27 10:33
mjg59_Maybe you write some great code somewhere! It's not in your public git reposSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: so that's what it's aboutSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]you study codeSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]that one person write for oneselfSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]dirty shell hacksSep 27 10:34
highest_cubist_thrillsonce upon a time there were two phds talking about tech on the internetSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]maybe you want to also run 'history(1)'Sep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]and find inefficiencies in my command workflowSep 27 10:34
schestowitz[TR]and then make funSep 27 10:35
highest_cubist_thrillsone of them used to work for netscape, and the other used to work for googleSep 27 10:35
mjg59_The bit where you filter out Ryan's traffic from your IRC monitoring is a nice touchSep 27 10:35
MinceR"Yes, London. You know, fish, chips, cup o tea, bad food, worse weather, Mary-fucking-Poppins. London!"Sep 27 10:35
highest_cubist_thrillsone was happily married, and the other had a partner (not a spouse)Sep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]i see daemonfcSep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]but not on every screenSep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]I try to reduce unwanted "highlights"Sep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]so that I don't get popupsSep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]he highlights me a lotSep 27 10:35
highest_cubist_thrills Mary-fucking-Poppins <- hopefully if she fucked anyone they could do a better accentSep 27 10:35
schestowitz[TR]sometimes whilst I record videosSep 27 10:35
highest_cubist_thrillshmm, mary poppins slashfic-- no, better leave itSep 27 10:36
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can fuck with mickey but is it worth itSep 27 10:36
MinceRlolSep 27 10:36
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: You haven't seen Snatch?Sep 27 10:36
highest_cubist_thrillsi loved snatch-- im not sure i saw the whole thingSep 27 10:36
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: london... know for possessing a water cannon for a couple of years. sold it away.Sep 27 10:36
mjg59_It's a quote from thatSep 27 10:36
highest_cubist_thrillsalso golden brown is an amazing song, even though i cant really endorse what it refers to Sep 27 10:37
schestowitz[TR]maybe they wanted a water cannnon to shoot away at annoying trollsSep 27 10:37
highest_cubist_thrills It's a quote from that <- fair enoughSep 27 10:37
highest_cubist_thrillsits been 18 years since i saw it thoughSep 27 10:37
schestowitz[TR]who demand that authors be burned at the stakeSep 27 10:37
schestowitz[TR]for insisting on things Sep 27 10:37
schestowitz[TR]rushdie might have something to saySep 27 10:37
mjg59_Ah ok now we're onto justifying the purchase of illegal weapons because maybe they could be used in ways Roy finds funnySep 27 10:37
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe they wanted a water cannnon to shoot away at annoying trolls who demand that authors be burned at the stakeSep 27 10:37
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe they wanted a water cannon to put put the stakeSep 27 10:37
schestowitz[TR]shah.google.comSep 27 10:38
highest_cubist_thrills Ah ok now we're onto justifying <- to be fair he was only speculatingSep 27 10:38
highest_cubist_thrillsroy do you think london should buy a water cannon?Sep 27 10:38
MinceRmaybe a friend owns a company that sells water cannonsSep 27 10:38
schestowitz[TR]highest_cubist_thrills: historically europe used these agaionst football hoopligansSep 27 10:39
schestowitz[TR]to break out fights and suchSep 27 10:39
mjg59_I do want to be clear in that I think it's 100% legitimate to criticise me for a company that has worked for some terrible people, but people who do that should also accept criticism of the companies they've worked forSep 27 10:39
highest_cubist_thrills/me is interested in the law that makes water cannons illegal, but this is only a curiositySep 27 10:39
schestowitz[TR]in the US they deploy cops with rifles and gasesSep 27 10:39
highest_cubist_thrills but people who do that should also accept criticism of the companies they've worked for <- it doesnt work that waySep 27 10:40
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean it probably should, but it doesntSep 27 10:40
schestowitz[TR]the US used water cannons against environmentalistSep 27 10:40
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/15/theresa-may-rejects-water-cannon-boris-johnsonSep 27 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Theresa May rejects Boris Johnson’s request to use water cannon | London | The GuardianSep 27 10:40
schestowitz[TR]in SUB-ZERO temperaturesSep 27 10:40
highest_cubist_thrillsthe usa is probably not a good role model hereSep 27 10:40
schestowitz[TR]to protect OIL companiesSep 27 10:41
highest_cubist_thrillsand by probably i mean definitelySep 27 10:41
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: That's a legitimate criticism of US police forces, who I have not worked forSep 27 10:41
highest_cubist_thrillsif oil companies become an endangered species, that could get interesting (rhetorically speaking)Sep 27 10:41
schestowitz[TR]Gulag makes the lion's share of money using...Sep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]spyingSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]malwareSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]back doorsSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]etc.Sep 27 10:42
highest_cubist_thrillsall corporations are bastardsSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]London's MUNICIPALITY raises moneySep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]from taxesSep 27 10:42
MinceRsome of them are much bigger bastards thoughSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]it LOST money from that one water cannonSep 27 10:42
mjg59_And, while spending money on your employer, also spend money on illegal weaponsSep 27 10:42
schestowitz[TR]I wonder what % of the GLA budget was that one water cannonSep 27 10:43
schestowitz[TR]and how that benefited meSep 27 10:43
mjg59_Three water cannonsSep 27 10:43
highest_cubist_thrills/me does think referring to "one water cannon" (really just the one?) as "illegal weapons" is a little disingenuousSep 27 10:43
schestowitz[TR]so maybe less than a million sterlingSep 27 10:44
highest_cubist_thrillsits a trick based on whats literally true vs what you know people will think when you say itSep 27 10:44
schestowitz[TR]and GLA has annual budget of how much?Sep 27 10:44
schestowitz[TR]how much did it spend on that one funeral|?Sep 27 10:44
mjg59_How much money do you think I personally obtained as a result of Google working for ICE?Sep 27 10:44
highest_cubist_thrillsthough i still dont know how water cannons are illegalSep 27 10:44
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: worseSep 27 10:45
schestowitz[TR]look at Google's other activitiesSep 27 10:45
highest_cubist_thrills How much money do you think I personally obtained as a result of Google working for ICE <- def beside the point unless roy just made the same argumentSep 27 10:45
highest_cubist_thrillswhich he probably did, but i didnt noticeSep 27 10:45
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: UK police forces don't have the legal right to use any kind of weapons against the population without approvalSep 27 10:45
highest_cubist_thrills without approval <- from whom?Sep 27 10:45
highest_cubist_thrillsthats use vs purchaseSep 27 10:45
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: The governmentSep 27 10:45
highest_cubist_thrillsok this sounds very silly now.Sep 27 10:46
mjg59_It's not illegal for the police to own them, merely to use themSep 27 10:46
schestowitz[TR]belgioum uses theseSep 27 10:46
schestowitz[TR]boycott belgium?Sep 27 10:46
schestowitz[TR]used those on Brits, tooSep 27 10:46
highest_cubist_thrills It's not illegal for the police to own them, merely to use them <- then to quote jean-luc picard...Sep 27 10:46
highest_cubist_thrillswhy the fuck are you calling them "illegal weapons" then?Sep 27 10:46
schestowitz[TR]agonst assholes lookign for a fight over FOOTBALLSep 27 10:46
mjg59_Did you work for a company that was paid money by a local government that also bought illegal weapons?Sep 27 10:46
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Using them would have been illegalSep 27 10:47
highest_cubist_thrillsdid they use them?Sep 27 10:47
techrights-newsFascists ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/26/fascists-set-to-take-power-in-italy-for-first-time-since-mussolini/ | Source: ScheerpostSep 27 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fascists Set to Take Power in Italy for First Time Since Mussolini – scheerpost.comSep 27 10:47
techrights-newsFascists ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/26/we-have-seen-movie-fascists-have-arrived | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | We Have Seen This Movie Before: The Fascists Have Arrived | Chris HedgesSep 27 10:47
MinceRthat's an interesting interpretation of "illegal weapons"Sep 27 10:47
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: No, they were told it would be illegal to do soSep 27 10:47
highest_cubist_thrillsNo, they were told it would be illegal to do so <- sounds perfectly legal to me.Sep 27 10:47
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ would walk up to a hooliganSep 27 10:48
highest_cubist_thrillsthey werent illegal to own. they bought them. they were told theyre not legal to use. they didnt use them.Sep 27 10:48
schestowitz[TR]"here, have a hug... don't fight'Sep 27 10:48
schestowitz[TR]"it's just a game, matey"Sep 27 10:48
highest_cubist_thrillsat what point did they actually become illegal weapons?Sep 27 10:48
highest_cubist_thrillsi know: when mjg said-- wait no, that didnt actually make them illegal weapons.Sep 27 10:48
schestowitz[TR]whiole s dozen other mates of that hoooligans come over with a bar stoolSep 27 10:48
mjg59_If they'd been used as weapons they'd have been illegalSep 27 10:49
highest_cubist_thrillsthey bought POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL WEAPONSSep 27 10:49
MinceRwhat isn't potentially illegal?Sep 27 10:49
highest_cubist_thrillshow dare your company take money from them, roy.Sep 27 10:49
*frog (~frog@txt39mzjsjjpa.irc) has joined #techrightsSep 27 10:49
highest_cubist_thrillstechnically that also makes them potentially legalSep 27 10:49
schestowitz[TR]from london town hallSep 27 10:49
schestowitz[TR]rianne alsoSep 27 10:49
schestowitz[TR]how dare she?Sep 27 10:49
schestowitz[TR]creep!Sep 27 10:49
mjg59_I don't think Roy's bad for working for this company!Sep 27 10:49
schestowitz[TR]a drupal site ppowers those cannon, obviouslySep 27 10:50
mjg59_I just want him to establish a clearer demarcation about the threshold for being tainted by the actions of your employerSep 27 10:50
highest_cubist_thrillsI don't think Roy's bad for working for this company! <- no but your comparison does really suck hard thoughSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]*cannonsSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]that were not even usedSep 27 10:50
MinceRniceSep 27 10:50
*MinceR clicks FIRE on the web interfaceSep 27 10:50
MinceR(or is it WATER?)Sep 27 10:50
highest_cubist_thrills/me hopes thats not illegal fireSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]meaanwhile gulag helps the pentagon select targets for bombinggSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]war crimes basicallySep 27 10:50
highest_cubist_thrills/me bought illegal matches the other daySep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]not water damageSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]homes blown offSep 27 10:50
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean i dont have any illegal intentions with themSep 27 10:50
schestowitz[TR]with Gulag "HEY HI"Sep 27 10:50
highest_cubist_thrillsbut some people use them illegallySep 27 10:51
mjg59_"water damage" in this case including potentially life altering injuriesSep 27 10:51
schestowitz[TR]with wives and kids in themSep 27 10:51
schestowitz[TR]babies...Sep 27 10:51
highest_cubist_thrillsthat makes them illegal matchesSep 27 10:51
schestowitz[TR]poor babiesSep 27 10:51
highest_cubist_thrillsi should really turn them inSep 27 10:51
MinceRlife-changing events!Sep 27 10:51
schestowitz[TR]drpizza did not get to themSep 27 10:51
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe theres a reward or somethingSep 27 10:51
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: So, for example, UK law has a bunch of contextual stuff - it's legal to own a large sharp knife if it's for cooking, but illegal if it's to carry around with you to stab peopleSep 27 10:52
techrights-newsitaly ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/26/introducing-giorgia-meloni-how-united-states-opened-door-fascisms-return-italy | Source: Common DreamsSep 27 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Introducing Giorgia Meloni: How the United States Opened the Door for Fascism's Return to Italy | Michael LeonardiSep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]the knives are bluntSep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]usuallySep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]the tip esp.Sep 27 10:52
highest_cubist_thrills/me hopes laws are contextualSep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]"just the tip"Sep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]as for cooking you rarely need strong grip, shrap tip, adn wide bladeSep 27 10:52
MinceR"u got a loicence for that butter knoife, m8?"Sep 27 10:52
highest_cubist_thrillsi just think calling them "illegal weapons" is a bit silly Sep 27 10:52
schestowitz[TR]so all the kitchen knives are not very good at killingSep 27 10:52
highest_cubist_thrillswhen nothing illegal has been doneSep 27 10:53
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: The water cannon were expressly purchased to use against the civilian population of London, not just to hose down random things or to put out fires. If they were used for the purpose they were purchased for, that would have been illegal.Sep 27 10:53
schestowitz[TR]commando knives areSep 27 10:53
schestowitz[TR]which is why many stabbings here are NOT fatalSep 27 10:53
MinceRcutting tomatoes is much easier with a knife that has a pointSep 27 10:53
highest_cubist_thrillsis it illegal to purchase them with such intent?Sep 27 10:53
schestowitz[TR]someone was stabbed just meters away from our homeSep 27 10:53
schestowitz[TR]and alsoa  friend's homeSep 27 10:53
schestowitz[TR]both survivedSep 27 10:53
highest_cubist_thrillsor only to use them that way?Sep 27 10:53
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Oh, that's why I'm framing it as "purchase of illegal weapons", not "illegal purchase of weapons"Sep 27 10:53
highest_cubist_thrillsfor gods sakeSep 27 10:54
MinceRstill deceptiveSep 27 10:54
mjg59_Sorry, I intended to be clear about the distinction there, but apparently I failedSep 27 10:54
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: yes, but they tend to be short, thin, and not good at penetrating rib cagesSep 27 10:54
mjg59_That's on meSep 27 10:54
schestowitz[TR]esp. on a 'moving target'Sep 27 10:54
highest_cubist_thrillswoudlnt be the first timeSep 27 10:54
mjg59_Eh legit criticismSep 27 10:54
schestowitz[TR]katana is another matterSep 27 10:54
mjg59_I'll avoid that framing in futureSep 27 10:54
schestowitz[TR]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KatanaSep 27 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Katana - WikipediaSep 27 10:55
schestowitz[TR]the shraper knives here are behind protected areasSep 27 10:55
*MinceR fires it from a coilgunSep 27 10:55
schestowitz[TR]you need to go through some process to buy t hemnSep 27 10:55
highest_cubist_thrillsill hand you, as someone who knowsSep 27 10:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthat roys accusations are stilted, may contain a slew of double standards, and are not always based on factsSep 27 10:56
highest_cubist_thrills are stilted <- can be, sometimes areSep 27 10:56
schestowitz[TR]hey, i always accepted your criticismSep 27 10:56
schestowitz[TR]I am not thin skinnedSep 27 10:57
schestowitz[TR]I argue backSep 27 10:57
techrights-newsMexico ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/mexico-murdered-journalists-network/ | Source: The NationSep 27 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Preserving the Memory of Murdered Journalists in Mexico | The NationSep 27 10:57
highest_cubist_thrillsaccepted != dodged, fabricated, made ridiculous (often untrue) excusesSep 27 10:57
highest_cubist_thrillsslightly differentSep 27 10:57
schestowitz[TR]no, that's a form of arguingSep 27 10:58
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah its a form of itSep 27 10:58
schestowitz[TR]did not censorSep 27 10:58
schestowitz[TR]you say fabricatedSep 27 10:58
schestowitz[TR]I say maybe misinterpretedSep 27 10:58
highest_cubist_thrillsfabricated = made upSep 27 10:58
schestowitz[TR]like the :"illegal weeapoons" canard aboveSep 27 10:58
highest_cubist_thrillsyou say potatoSep 27 10:58
schestowitz[TR]some people use indirectionSep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]to attribute things to peopleSep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]like insinuating I support rapeSep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]when what it boils down to isSep 27 10:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▅▄▅▂▅▆▇▄▆▄▅▆▅▄▅▄▅▂▃▃▅▃▂▄▁▃▂▂▂▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.41 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂█▁▁███▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 72.18▕ swarm size (avg): 116.26  ⟲Sep 27 10:59
highest_cubist_thrillsmjg: does roy support rape?Sep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]I published someone else's artcles about or from someone who has certain views outside that areaSep 27 10:59
mjg59_I don't think soSep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]i hardly even had sex before getting marriedSep 27 10:59
schestowitz[TR]so it's a stretch to accuse me of any sex crimesSep 27 11:00
schestowitz[TR]was always busy with computersSep 27 11:00
schestowitz[TR]sort of like techuser Sep 27 11:00
mjg59_He's published articles by someone who claimed that someone who's sexually assaulted or raped several people I know was falsely accusedSep 27 11:00
highest_cubist_thrills/me is sure this is about pocockSep 27 11:01
techrights-news"They say dozens of women, that day in Cairo, threw themselves from balconies in grief. They say millions attended his funeral." ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/safia-elhillo-girls-never-die/ | Source: The NationSep 27 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Searching Poetry of Safia Elhillo | The NationSep 27 11:01
mjg59_So I don't think he thinks rape is good or justifiable, but I think he's fine publishing things that support rapistsSep 27 11:01
schestowitz[TR]see the logic, highest_cubist_thrills Sep 27 11:01
schestowitz[TR]anyone who nods to something pocock wrote is now rape somethingSep 27 11:01
highest_cubist_thrillspublishing things that support rapists <- have you talked to your therapist about overgeneralising?Sep 27 11:01
highest_cubist_thrillsnow ive been known to generalise the fuck out of some things...Sep 27 11:02
highest_cubist_thrillsbut ill either defend or backpedal (or clarify) if called on itSep 27 11:02
techrights-newsassange ☛ https://thedissenter.org/poll-most-us-uk-adults-nothing-files-assange-charged-with-publishing/ | Source: The DissenterSep 27 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | Westerners Know Little About Files Assange Is In Jail For PublishingSep 27 11:02
highest_cubist_thrillsdepending of course, on how accurate i believe the statement wasSep 27 11:02
schestowitz[TR]omg, roy linked to wikileaks something!!Sep 27 11:02
schestowitz[TR]war criminals are OKSep 27 11:02
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: He literally republished stuff Pocock wrote that claimed the accusations against Jake were falseSep 27 11:03
schestowitz[TR]people who link to article about wikileaks?" GROSS!!Sep 27 11:03
highest_cubist_thrillsand wikileaks rapes peopleSep 27 11:03
highest_cubist_thrillsthat claimed the accusations against Jake were false <- ok thats not an overgeneralisation then i supposeSep 27 11:03
schestowitz[TR]he defames assange by calling him rapistSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]so hold your horses, manSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]the campaign aginst assange is multifacetedSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]they tried all possible anglesSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]mostly made up anglesSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]the CIA "hit list"Sep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]apropos, CIA also wanted to torture assangeSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]and to assassinate himSep 27 11:04
schestowitz[TR]eventually they ill;egally kidnapped himSep 27 11:05
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Do you believe Jake was falsely accused?Sep 27 11:05
highest_cubist_thrillsbut they were happy to let britain do itSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]the "sec" guy doesn't mind itSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]doesn't mind sexSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]doesn't mind the lawSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]*secSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]typoSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]though a funny typoSep 27 11:05
MinceRsecsSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]he's  into sex, not sexSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]don't wanna "miss out"Sep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]*not secSep 27 11:05
schestowitz[TR]<mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Do you believe Jake was falsely accused?Sep 27 11:06
schestowitz[TR]did you stop beating up your wife?Sep 27 11:06
schestowitz[TR]https://www.throughlinegroup.com/2011/09/19/when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife/Sep 27 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.throughlinegroup.com | "When Did You Stop Beating Your Wife?" | Media Training QuestionSep 27 11:07
highest_cubist_thrillsin fairness to roy (and why do i bother, i dont know)Sep 27 11:07
highest_cubist_thrillshe has said on more than one occasionSep 27 11:07
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: The fallacy in "Did you stop beating your wife" is that either response implies that you've been beating your wifeSep 27 11:07
highest_cubist_thrillsthat his editorial policy does not require him to agree with the authors he publishes or republishesSep 27 11:07
techrights-newsFace Recognition ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/ban-government-use-face-recognition-uk | Source: EFFSep 27 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Ban Government Use of Face Recognition In the UK | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 27 11:08
highest_cubist_thrillsofc his editorial policy is partly improvSep 27 11:08
highest_cubist_thrillsbut this is actually established in wordsSep 27 11:08
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: "Do you believe Jake was falsely accused" isn't the same fallacySep 27 11:08
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Oh I agree that it's his editorial policy, and as a result I don't think it's wrong or misleading to say that he's willing to publish material that defends rapistsSep 27 11:09
highest_cubist_thrills*groucho* which fallacy was it then :>Sep 27 11:09
techrights-news"Having a 3D printer or a CNC machine available for projects is almost like magic." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/26/robotic-platform-is-open-sourced-and-user-friendly/ | Source: HackadaySep 27 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robotic Platform Is Open Sourced And User Friendly | HackadaySep 27 11:09
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: So, do you believe Jake was falsely accused?Sep 27 11:09
schestowitz[TR]ask pocock, not meSep 27 11:10
highest_cubist_thrills<mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: The fallacy in "Did you stop beating your wife" is that either response implies that you've been beating your wife <- he would have been better off quoting huacSep 27 11:10
highest_cubist_thrillsare you now or have you ever been a member of the communist partySep 27 11:10
schestowitz[TR]erdos passedSep 27 11:11
schestowitz[TR]denied access to usSep 27 11:11
schestowitz[TR]stayed in orbanland iircSep 27 11:11
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: I'm asking you because I'm interested in your opinionSep 27 11:11
mjg59_I'm not asking what Pocock's opinion is (I know that already)Sep 27 11:11
techrights-newsPrice-Gouging ☛ https://truthout.org/audio/corporations-price-gouging-may-hurt-them-in-the-long-run-says-economist/ | Source: TruthOutSep 27 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Corporations’ Price-Gouging May Hurt Them in the Long Run, Says EconomistSep 27 11:11
techrights-newsItaly ☛ https://truthout.org/video/fascist-victory-in-italy-signals-rise-of-transnational-far-right-across-europe/ | Source: TruthOutSep 27 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Fascist Victory in Italy Signals Rise of "Transnational" Far Right Across EuropeSep 27 11:12
schestowitz[TR]ask your partner, mjg59_ Sep 27 11:12
schestowitz[TR]no need to ask meSep 27 11:12
mjg59_Jake sexually assaulted them, so I know their positionSep 27 11:12
schestowitz[TR]if you want facts, ask luvcruftSep 27 11:12
mjg59_I'm asking what you believeSep 27 11:12
schestowitz[TR]how would I know? never met any of them Sep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]i spoke to assange sometimesSep 27 11:13
mjg59_Based on what you've read, what do you think?Sep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]never spoke to othersSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]I read what other people claimSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]i am not a judgeSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]the judge looks for evvidenceSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]there was not a trialSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]and I'm not "in the inside"Sep 27 11:13
mjg59_You have opinions about me without there being a trialSep 27 11:13
schestowitz[TR]not the sameSep 27 11:14
highest_cubist_thrillshe doesnt have an opinion on everything Sep 27 11:14
highest_cubist_thrillseven if it might seem that waySep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]you are making a serious allegation of crimes re assangeSep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]and there is nom trialSep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]you keep calling his "rapist"Sep 27 11:14
mjg59_We're talking about Jake, not assangeSep 27 11:14
highest_cubist_thrillsthere are a lot of questions he simply pooh poohsSep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]and you're like the FBI and Swedish police in that respectSep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]scheming to do what GCHQ called a "fit up"Sep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]you call Assange a rap[ist tooSep 27 11:14
schestowitz[TR]why?Sep 27 11:14
highest_cubist_thrillscondom Sep 27 11:15
mjg59_Because the description of his behaviour matches the definition of rapeSep 27 11:15
mjg59_But we're not talking about Assange, we're talking about JakeSep 27 11:15
techrights-newsDisinvestment ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/disinvestment-poses-as-great-a-threat-to-libraries-as-book-bans/ | Source: TruthOutSep 27 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Disinvestment Poses as Great a Threat to Libraries as Book BansSep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]I never accused you of rape, MinceR Sep 27 11:16
mjg59_If Jake refused to stop having sex with someone when they asked him to, is he a rapist?Sep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]*mjgSep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]sorry, bad autocompleteSep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]I never accused you of rape, mjg59_ Sep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]you are equating bad thingsSep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]imagine me saying publicly you are a rapistSep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]how would you feel?Sep 27 11:16
schestowitz[TR]you do this to assange, even this monthSep 27 11:17
highest_cubist_thrillsI never accused you of rape, MinceR <- im not saying mincer is ace, but i cant imagine him wanting to be that close to another member of this speciesSep 27 11:17
schestowitz[TR]lolSep 27 11:17
schestowitz[TR]trueSep 27 11:17
mjg59_In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I would feel like you were making things upSep 27 11:17
highest_cubist_thrillsperhaps an alien?Sep 27 11:17
mjg59_But there's evidence that Jake raped peopleSep 27 11:17
mjg59_So, again, if Jake refused to stop having sex with someone when they asked him to, is he a rapist?Sep 27 11:18
schestowitz[TR]you are talking about your partnerSep 27 11:18
mjg59_NopeSep 27 11:19
schestowitz[TR]i don't have reasons to think this is falseSep 27 11:19
highest_cubist_thrillshe says assault when referring to his partnerSep 27 11:19
mjg59_Ok. So you agree that in the event of Jake refusing to cease having sex with someone when they ask him to, he would be a rapist?Sep 27 11:19
techrights-newsDeSantis ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/ron-desantis-excuse-kidnapping-migrants/ | Source: The NationSep 27 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Let’s Talk About Ron DeSantis’s "Reason" for Kidnapping Migrants | The NationSep 27 11:19
mjg59_That doesn't seem like a controversial thing to agree toSep 27 11:19
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highest_cubist_thrillsJake refusing to cease having sex with someone <- i know this is a stupid question, particularly given the present companySep 27 11:20
highest_cubist_thrillsbut how long did he have sex with the accuser after he was asked to ceaseSep 27 11:20
techrights-newsItaly ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/gop-representatives-boebert-and-greene-are-celebrating-fascisms-win-in-italy/ | Source: TruthOutSep 27 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | GOP Representatives Boebert and Greene Are Celebrating Fascism's Win in ItalySep 27 11:20
highest_cubist_thrillsim not looking for a stopwatch hereSep 27 11:21
highest_cubist_thrillsjust an ideaSep 27 11:21
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: https://hypatia.ca/2016/06/07/he-said-they-said/Sep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]highest_cubist_thrills: better not go there..Sep 27 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hypatia.ca | He said, they said – hypatia dot caSep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]he's here in irc for thisSep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]to bring up all those sorts f questionsSep 27 11:21
highest_cubist_thrills better not go there.. <- indeedSep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]and tghen declare someone here a rape apologistSep 27 11:21
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Search for "ignored my use of a safeword"Sep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]watch what happend to tsoSep 27 11:21
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i just did, and im sure the above link contains teh answerSep 27 11:21
highest_cubist_thrillsi do think safewords are importantSep 27 11:21
schestowitz[TR]ok, have a go at it, highest_cubist_thrills Sep 27 11:22
schestowitz[TR]if later he points to something you said, don't lay that on me, mjg59_ Sep 27 11:22
highest_cubist_thrills/me has already commented on tsoSep 27 11:22
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mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Have you read the contents of that link?Sep 27 11:22
techrights-news"Right to Secrecy" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/presidents-right-secrecy-trump-classified/ | Source: The NationSep 27 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Do Presidents Have a Right to Secrecy? | The NationSep 27 11:22
highest_cubist_thrillstso brought his opinions in. in this regard ive only asked a questionSep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]tso has many opinionsSep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]inc. positions on iraq invasionSep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]on microsoft patentsSep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]on chinese identitySep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]do you want to pick on a  coder for all that OtherStuff(R)?Sep 27 11:23
schestowitz[TR]and if you do, WHY?Sep 27 11:24
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Does being a coder excuse you from everything else?Sep 27 11:24
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: you never held a controversial opinionSep 27 11:24
schestowitz[TR]ok, let's have funSep 27 11:24
schestowitz[TR]brbSep 27 11:24
mjg59_Should Reiser have been forgiven for murdering his wife is he promised to keep working on Linux?Sep 27 11:24
highest_cubist_thrills"Jacob ignored my use of a safeword when his sexual behavior turned into violent behavior that violated my limits. Paul and I both had to repeatedly tell Jacob to stop, and the experience was profoundly upsetting. I believe that one of the common elements of Jacob’s abusive behavior is humiliating one or another member of a couple in front of the other"Sep 27 11:25
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont know if this answers my question, per seSep 27 11:26
mjg59_"Repeatedly" suggests it's not just a few seconds of failing to noticeSep 27 11:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi think its UNQUESTIONABLY WRONG to ignore a safewordSep 27 11:26
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1055600636056748034Sep 27 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: You'll all be shocked to hear that the Newsy post on the Andy Rubin thing has been penalisedSep 27 11:26
highest_cubist_thrillsthe problem is i dont know what act is being referred to as sexual hereSep 27 11:26
highest_cubist_thrillsits not specificSep 27 11:26
schestowitz[TR]andy "give mew blow job, I'm your boss"  rubbinSep 27 11:27
highest_cubist_thrillsi assume the act he did not cease (but i have to assume) was one that falls under the legal definition of rape...Sep 27 11:27
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1571793991334764545Sep 27 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Me: Sorry can't make it to work tomorrow busy watching the Queen's funeral Also me: (opens another beer)Sep 27 11:27
schestowitz[TR]making fun about the death of an old lady?Sep 27 11:27
schestowitz[TR]opening a beer?Sep 27 11:27
schestowitz[TR]while a nation mourns?Sep 27 11:27
highest_cubist_thrillsand if he didnt cease one of those acts when the safeword was given, id consider that rapeSep 27 11:27
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, me criticising Hacker News for downvoting a story about Andy Rubin's behaviour is definitely the smoking gun you're looking for hereSep 27 11:27
schestowitz[TR]that's... disgustingSep 27 11:28
schestowitz[TR]and borderline misogynist? Sep 27 11:28
mjg59_Dude, I'm IrishSep 27 11:28
mjg59_The British crown was responsible for multiple instances of genocide in IrelandSep 27 11:28
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> making fun about the death of an old lady? <- is this a deliberate parody of mjgs penchant for overgeneralisationSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/318914525892050944Sep 27 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Plenty of documentation on Azure's filesystem-level security, nothing about containing guests.Sep 27 11:29
highest_cubist_thrillsmaking fun of the death of a monarch isnt misogynySep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ >3 AzureSep 27 11:29
highest_cubist_thrills"it can be"Sep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]<3Sep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]We can go onSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_:  is always rightSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]only other people have flawed opinionsSep 27 11:29
highest_cubist_thrillshardlySep 27 11:29
mjg59_You're quoting me literally criticising AzureSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_:  is the gold standardSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]the yardstickSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1449059681331122181Sep 27 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @Volvoman90 @shashly_sharon @ElleBeeG @dihamil @MapdraughterUK @jp_lfc81 @bbcquestiontime My birth certificate says I'm IrishSep 27 11:29
schestowitz[TR]it also states a genderSep 27 11:30
mjg59_OkSep 27 11:30
mjg59_SoSep 27 11:30
mjg59_Just to be clearSep 27 11:30
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1565911715170045952Sep 27 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Keep his fucking name out of your mouth this is not what he would want from youSep 27 11:30
schestowitz[TR]professional languageSep 27 11:30
highest_cubist_thrillsthatcher wasnt even a monarch but people played ding dong the witch is dead anywaySep 27 11:30
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1565911338299232257Sep 27 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: You utter fucking piece of shit https://t.co/CNsfkFhGn6Sep 27 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eastdakota: This is incredibly sad news. Peter is one of the true defenders of the Internet. https://t.co/hbL5c6qe4aSep 27 11:30
schestowitz[TR]politeSep 27 11:30
schestowitz[TR]"HIRE THIS MAN" -CEOSep 27 11:31
mjg59_Ok you're quoting me criticising the CEO of CloudflareSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]whom you attacked ad hoim to force them to censorSep 27 11:31
mjg59_For implying that a friend of mine would have supported CloudflareSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]and you basically bully people like thisSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]until they censor, and then help evil regiiimeSep 27 11:31
mjg59_Just after he diedSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]they massacre womenSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]all because you wanted ONEMorSite(R) to be deplatformedSep 27 11:31
schestowitz[TR]you help dictatorsSep 27 11:31
mjg59_Me: Cloudflare is badSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]noSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]you called a personSep 27 11:32
mjg59_Roy: Cloudflare is bad, but Matthew is bad for criticising CloudflareSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]"utter fucking piece of shit "Sep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]in publicSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]in front of many peopleSep 27 11:32
mjg59_Yeah, and I stand by thatSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]and later you TONE-POLICE our IRC networkSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]see?Sep 27 11:32
mjg59_He's an utter fucking piece of shitSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]I too can play this gameSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]you are a broken instrumentSep 27 11:32
highest_cubist_thrillsmjg: who did you call an utter fucking piece of shitSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]a flawd little manSep 27 11:32
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Matthew PrinceSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]and yopu lecture everyoneSep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR]as if..Sep 27 11:32
schestowitz[TR].https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/361354943287934976Sep 27 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: This magazine also includes an operating system tutorial written by Bill GatesSep 27 11:33
mjg59_Do you think Jake is a rapistSep 27 11:33
mjg59_This is an easy questionSep 27 11:33
mjg59_And you keep avoiding itSep 27 11:33
schestowitz[TR]change subject again?Sep 27 11:33
mjg59_Why do you keep avoiding itSep 27 11:33
highest_cubist_thrillsMatthew Prince cofounded the web infrastructure and security company Cloudflare in 2009 <- shoe probably fitsSep 27 11:33
*frog (~frog@udrhdefbtjdvk.irc) has joined #techrightsSep 27 11:33
schestowitz[TR]'security'Sep 27 11:33
schestowitz[TR]clownflare is a security breachSep 27 11:33
schestowitz[TR]it even eats up the certsSep 27 11:33
schestowitz[TR]so it's like a perfect interception tool for USASep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]as an IPOdSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]companySep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]operating at a lossSep 27 11:34
mjg59_Would it be untrue for me to say "Roy Schestowitz belives Jake Appelbaum is not a rapist"?Sep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]at mercy of shareholders and   Trump regimeSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]nice, eh?Sep 27 11:34
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure the only reason roy is making a big deal about you saying prince is (what he most likely is) is that it was the context of censoring a websiteSep 27 11:34
mjg59_I'm happy for you to say that's untrueSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1565947657066930178Sep 27 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @yunginnanet @eastdakota @Cloudflare Fuck offSep 27 11:34
mjg59_And I'd believe youSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]niceSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]you sure you went to oxbridgeSep 27 11:34
schestowitz[TR]even I never call people thatSep 27 11:34
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: The context was a dead friend of mineSep 27 11:35
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Would it be untrue for me to say "Roy Schestowitz belives Jake Appelbaum is not a rapist"?Sep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]he holds clownflare accountable for people in a forumSep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]section of note hereSep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]so because some idiots shitpost in a froumSep 27 11:35
highest_cubist_thrillshe holds clownflare accountable for people in a forum <- that seems excessiveSep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]he now calls for clownflare boycottSep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]seems like ther wrong reasonSep 27 11:35
schestowitz[TR]me: clownflare censorsSep 27 11:36
schestowitz[TR]and many other moral issuesSep 27 11:36
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: I hold Cloudflare responsible for their choice of customersSep 27 11:36
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: THEY DO NOT BOYCOTT ENOUGH SITES!!Sep 27 11:36
schestowitz[TR]*(the ones _I_ dislike)Sep 27 11:36
highest_cubist_thrills/me would have supported the boycott in some other contextSep 27 11:36
highest_cubist_thrillshell, nearly anySep 27 11:36
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: I will hold them accountable for anything anyone ever said in 200 million subsitesSep 27 11:36
schestowitz[TR]until they censor the sites _I_ do not likeSep 27 11:37
mjg59_UhSep 27 11:37
mjg59_RoySep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]<highest_cubist_thrills> he holds clownflare accountable for people in a forum <- that seems excessiveSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]worseSep 27 11:37
mjg59_Hate to break this to youSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]he doesn't hold the webmaster accountableSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]but the CDN!!!Sep 27 11:37
mjg59_But you're largely known for leading a boycottSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]the fucking CDN LOL!!Sep 27 11:37
highest_cubist_thrillsno that was shaneSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]doim you know how many sites clownflare fronts for?Sep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]inc. some sick ones outside western culture?Sep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]iirc, taliban alsoSep 27 11:37
schestowitz[TR]taliban OKSep 27 11:38
highest_cubist_thrillsroy thought "boycott novell" was "too negative" a name for a website formed around a suggestion to boycott novellSep 27 11:38
schestowitz[TR]because the taliban doesn't come to the home of mjg59_ Sep 27 11:38
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Would it be untrue for me to say "Roy Schestowitz belives Jake Appelbaum is not a rapist"?Sep 27 11:38
highest_cubist_thrillshe wanted to call it "dontletsbebeastlytonovelljustusemonoabitless.com"Sep 27 11:38
schestowitz[TR]subject change againSep 27 11:38
schestowitz[TR]and they say _I_ am elizabotSep 27 11:38
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Just going to point out that if you don't answer this I can legitimately say "Roy Schestowitz refuses to say that Jake Appelbaum is not a rapist"Sep 27 11:38
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1525743466033975296https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1525743466033975296Sep 27 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: All of this shit is either sexism or racism or homophobia or transphobia and yet we keep letting people try to pret… https://t.co/KsQphnaBwcSep 27 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: All of this shit is either sexism or racism or homophobia or transphobia and yet we keep letting people try to pret… https://t.co/KsQphnaBwcSep 27 11:39
mjg59_So it would probably be easier to answer the questionSep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1525743466033975296Sep 27 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: All of this shit is either sexism or racism or homophobia or transphobia and yet we keep letting people try to pret… https://t.co/KsQphnaBwcSep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]""Sep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]All of this shit is either sexism or racism or homophobia or transphobia and yet we keep letting people try to pretend that these are actually expressions of some legitimate political discourse or something and maybe we shouldn't do thatSep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]imposing "rigththing"Sep 27 11:39
highest_cubist_thrillsRoy Schestowitz refuses to say that Jake Appelbaum is not a rapist <- reminds me of something lewis carroll said onceSep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]morality policeSep 27 11:39
schestowitz[TR]Iran has that alsoSep 27 11:40
schestowitz[TR]in the news this past monthSep 27 11:40
highest_cubist_thrillsiran would probably find a reason that it was ok for appelbaum to rape someone thoughSep 27 11:40
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Would you object to me saying "Roy Schestowitz believes Jake Appelbaum was falsely accused of rape"?Sep 27 11:40
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: personal questionSep 27 11:40
schestowitz[TR]what do your mom and your dad think about trans people?Sep 27 11:40
schestowitz[TR]you don't have to answerSep 27 11:40
mjg59_They've been accepting of my partnerSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]even 10 years ago?Sep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]you did not answer my question btwSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]you changes my questionSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]the question change is revealingSep 27 11:41
mjg59_I'm answering to the degree I canSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]you rtwisted my questionSep 27 11:41
highest_cubist_thrills/me thinks the question was answeredSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]your parents support it like ddaemonfc's parents support his gaynessSep 27 11:41
schestowitz[TR]they just about tolerate itSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]but not reallySep 27 11:42
mjg59_Whenever my parents have met trans people I know they have exhibited no hostility or refusal to accept them for who they areSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]they are polite to their sonSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]they still love their sonSep 27 11:42
mjg59_I have not questioned them further on the topicSep 27 11:42
highest_cubist_thrills/me has no idea where roy got his information on mjgs parents Sep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]I askedSep 27 11:42
highest_cubist_thrillsyour parents support it like ddaemonfc's parents support his gayness <- why would you assume thisSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]and he answered another qquestionSep 27 11:42
mjg59_But they have made efforts to use appropriate pronouns and ensure that other members of the family do so as wellSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]that I had not askedSep 27 11:42
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: when?Sep 27 11:43
mjg59_When what?Sep 27 11:43
schestowitz[TR]after you asked them to?Sep 27 11:43
highest_cubist_thrills and he answered another qquestion <- i think he answered your question reasonablySep 27 11:43
schestowitz[TR]ok, moving onSep 27 11:43
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1486465591695196160Sep 27 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Shit I did not see this coming: https://t.co/ucmZOxsUNlSep 27 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linux/Makefile at ac632c504d0b881d7cfb44e3fdde3ec30eb548d9 · torvalds/linux · GitHubSep 27 11:43
schestowitz[TR]you like shit, don't you :-)? Sep 27 11:43
highest_cubist_thrillsimo if you think the answer was not satisfactory, you should specify what it lacks and not rely on innuendoSep 27 11:43
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Would you object to me saying "Roy Schestowitz believes Jake Appelbaum was falsely accused of rape"?Sep 27 11:43
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1431453762338492426Sep 27 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @snare Oh shit yeah fuck I took the week off work and entirely forgot about thatSep 27 11:44
schestowitz[TR]very professionalSep 27 11:44
schestowitz[TR]"HIRE THIS MAN"Sep 27 11:44
schestowitz[TR]he complies with the CoCSep 27 11:44
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: You're weirdly intent on not answering this questionSep 27 11:44
highest_cubist_thrillsthis wont ever end until they fuck alreadySep 27 11:44
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1393146770432040961Sep 27 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Still not over former GOP house member Peter King being: a) pro IRA b) pro IsraelSep 27 11:44
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: is your stance on israel coc-compliant?Sep 27 11:45
highest_cubist_thrillsmel gibson "okay, this is defintely NOT what i meant by 'thunderdome'"Sep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]if not, someone might report you to the cocommitteeSep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]for antisemitismSep 27 11:45
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: The IRA are pro-PLASep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]like people did tsoSep 27 11:45
highest_cubist_thrillspalestine is definitely not a safe spaceSep 27 11:45
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: I'm pointing out an obvious contradiction in political positionSep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]my point being,,,,Sep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]he is a flawed peopleSep 27 11:45
schestowitz[TR]picking on his is faaar too easySep 27 11:46
schestowitz[TR]if one wantedeSep 27 11:46
schestowitz[TR]to he throws stonesd in glass housesSep 27 11:46
mjg59_Picking on an elected politician is far too easy?Sep 27 11:46
highest_cubist_thrillsan obvious contradiction <- how is it contradictory for the ira to be pro-plaSep 27 11:46
schestowitz[TR]the sock is on the other foot...Sep 27 11:46
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Being pro-IRA and pro-IsraelSep 27 11:46
highest_cubist_thrillsboth the pla and ira are against border decisions by the britishSep 27 11:46
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Yeah that's my pointSep 27 11:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbut palestine and ireland got fucked by imperialistsSep 27 11:47
highest_cubist_thrillsi thought the ira (sans the so-called "real ira") disbanded butSep 27 11:47
schestowitz[TR]brb, doingdaily links nowSep 27 11:47
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont get the contradictionSep 27 11:47
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highest_cubist_thrillsYeah that's my point <- ohSep 27 11:47
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mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: Being pro-PLA and pro-Israel would be a contradictionSep 27 11:47
mjg59_And you can't be pro-IRA without being pro-PLA reallySep 27 11:48
highest_cubist_thrillsah, interestingSep 27 11:48
highest_cubist_thrillsthe ira disbanded though yes?Sep 27 11:48
highest_cubist_thrillsexcept the "real ira"Sep 27 11:48
mjg59_Republican areas of Northern Ireland fly Palestinian flagsSep 27 11:48
mjg59_The IRA exists, but disarmedSep 27 11:48
highest_cubist_thrillsokSep 27 11:48
highest_cubist_thrillsi know about sinn fein but really wasnt up to speed on the iraSep 27 11:49
mjg59_Loyalist areas of Northern Ireland fly Israeli flags, because Loyalists are incredibly confusedSep 27 11:49
highest_cubist_thrillsor clear on itSep 27 11:49
mjg59_They also fly confederate flagsSep 27 11:49
highest_cubist_thrills that does sound confusingSep 27 11:49
mjg59_Yeah it's just a bunch of incoherent political signallingSep 27 11:49
highest_cubist_thrillsis this recent? i didnt notice any confederate flagsSep 27 11:49
highest_cubist_thrillsbut that was a long time ago, and its not like i canvased the entire countrySep 27 11:49
highest_cubist_thrillsa bunch of incoherent political signalling <- sign of the times i supposeSep 27 11:50
mjg59_https://www.google.com/search?q=northern+ireland+confederate+flagSep 27 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-northern ireland confederate flag - Google SearchSep 27 11:50
highest_cubist_thrillsaliens: "earthlings fucking jumped the shark"Sep 27 11:50
highest_cubist_thrillshttps://www.google.com/search?q=northern+ireland+confederate+flag <- oh i dont doubt the claimSep 27 11:51
highest_cubist_thrillsi was just curious if it was recentSep 27 11:51
highest_cubist_thrillsi cant imagine why youd ever make up confederate flags in loyalist areasSep 27 11:51
mjg59_Anyway, just going to point out explicitly that Roy absolutely refuses to express an opinion on whether Jake is a rapistSep 27 11:51
schestowitz[TR]since you highlight meSep 27 11:52
mjg59_Yeah honestly to an extent it's tied to German use of the confederate flag as a stand-in for the swastika flagSep 27 11:52
highest_cubist_thrillsjust going to point out explicitly that Roy absolutely refuses to express an opinion on whether Jake is a rapist <- i consider that a legimate position on appelbaumSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]and you make a false assertionSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]I will say no,Sep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]i ndid not say thatSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]no less than you said israel has no right to existSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]which you might believeSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]but I cannot prove itSep 27 11:52
mjg59_I think Israel has a right to existSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]okSep 27 11:52
mjg59_So, is Jake a rapistSep 27 11:52
schestowitz[TR]and what you said earlier about me is falseSep 27 11:53
mjg59_Which thing I said earlier?Sep 27 11:53
schestowitz[TR]btw, let's see how much those irish republicans want to bring 100,000 palestinians to theiiir townsSep 27 11:53
schestowitz[TR]*theirSep 27 11:53
schestowitz[TR](barrier and network lag)Sep 27 11:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi think israel has a right to exist. i strongly disagree with their intepretation of that as "we can just go around bulldozing whatever we like"Sep 27 11:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi think usa has a right to exist-- yet i dont support the tactics of iceSep 27 11:53
highest_cubist_thrillsbulldozing <- and mortaringSep 27 11:54
highest_cubist_thrillsand so onSep 27 11:55
highest_cubist_thrillsi disagree with the notion that a right to exist implies an unassailable right to commit war crimesSep 27 11:55
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean im sentimental that waySep 27 11:55
mjg59_"When asked repeatedly, Roy Schestowitz did not answer questions about whether he believed Jake Appelbaum was a rapist"Sep 27 11:56
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: ^ that's 100% factually accurate, right?Sep 27 11:56
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the smart answerSep 27 11:56
highest_cubist_thrills/me looks up if british have equiv of right to remain silentSep 27 11:57
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure its not identicalSep 27 11:57
highest_cubist_thrillsThe right to silence in England and Wales is the protection given to a person during criminal proceedings from adverse consequences of remaining silent. It is sometimes referred to as the privilege against self-incrimination.Sep 27 11:57
highest_cubist_thrillswhy do you take issue with roys silence on the matterSep 27 11:58
highest_cubist_thrillswhat does it prove?Sep 27 11:58
mjg59_I think "Roy Schestowitz has republished articles suggesting that Jake Appelbaum was falsely accused of rape, but refuses to express his own opinion on the matter" is also accurateSep 27 11:59
highest_cubist_thrillsyes but thats his editorial policySep 27 11:59
highest_cubist_thrillswhats wrong with that policySep 27 11:59
mjg59_highest_cubist_thrills: He's repeatedly claimed that I've accused him of supporting rapists when all I've said is that he publishes articles that support rapistsSep 27 12:00
highest_cubist_thrillsHe's repeatedly claimed that I've accused him of supporting rapists when all I've said is that he publishes articles that support rapists <- i mean...Sep 27 12:00
highest_cubist_thrillsits roy we are talking about hereSep 27 12:00
highest_cubist_thrillshe also said you go to conventions to get laidSep 27 12:01
mjg59_Yeah, that's also a lieSep 27 12:01
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highest_cubist_thrillssimply because you dont eschew the entire idea of getting laid at a conventionSep 27 12:01
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highest_cubist_thrills <mjg59_> Yeah, that's also a lie <- like i said, its roy we are talking about hereSep 27 12:01
MinceRpresumably we're supposed to consider Appelbaum guilty in absence of a court verdict, and cancel himSep 27 12:02
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> presumably we're supposed to consider Appelbaum guilty in absence of a court verdict, and cancel him <- sadly this is the only reason i knew he existed in the first placeSep 27 12:03
mjg59_MinceR: We're supposed to come to a reasonable conclusion about how to respond to an individual based on a number of accusations against himSep 27 12:04
mjg59_Nobody is suggesting that he be stripped of his rights in the absence of a court verdictSep 27 12:04
highest_cubist_thrills We're supposed to come to a reasonable conclusion about how to respond to an individual based on a number of accusations against him <- what makes you certain mincer hasnt done that already?Sep 27 12:04
mjg59_But there's no right to compel associationSep 27 12:04
highest_cubist_thrillsthere's no right to compel association <- funnily enough, a point of argued myself about being forced to associate with the coupSep 27 12:05
highest_cubist_thrillss/of/ive/Sep 27 12:05
frogfalse accusation, with or without a court, are defamation, and an illegal offenseSep 27 12:05
highest_cubist_thrillsthough we are probably going to different places with that ideaSep 27 12:06
frogif false accusation are combined with blackmailing and extortion, it is fraud and a criminal offenseSep 27 12:06
frogsubject to compensation of damages caused by false accusationsSep 27 12:06
highest_cubist_thrills Nobody is suggesting that he be stripped of his rights <- what exactly what decided Sep 27 12:07
highest_cubist_thrillssorry, what exactly was decidedSep 27 12:08
mjg59_He's largely unwelcome at conferences, the number of people willing to collaborate with him is reducedSep 27 12:08
highest_cubist_thrills the number of people willing to collaborate with him is reduced <- this makes perfect senseSep 27 12:09
mjg59_He got his PhD anyway, and he's got some sort of position at a university in SwitzerlandSep 27 12:09
highest_cubist_thrillsHe's largely unwelcome at conferences <- this would be tragic if hes not guilty of what hes accused ofSep 27 12:09
highest_cubist_thrillsHe got his PhD anyway, and he's got some sort of position at a university <- his career wasnt ruinedSep 27 12:09
highest_cubist_thrillsonly his ability to interact with most of the free software communitySep 27 12:09
highest_cubist_thrillsat conferencesSep 27 12:10
mjg59_I'm unwelcome at some conferences because of things I've said about the Linux FoundationSep 27 12:10
mjg59_(Also unwelcome at one conference because of things I said about Jake)Sep 27 12:10
highest_cubist_thrillsoh which oneSep 27 12:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause of things I've said about the Linux Foundation <- yeah lf is a bit of a delicate flower that waySep 27 12:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbeing a protected minority and corporation etcSep 27 12:11
mjg59_CCC rejected literally everyone vaguely related to Tor the year the Jake stuff happenedSep 27 12:11
highest_cubist_thrillsjsut for one year?Sep 27 12:11
highest_cubist_thrillsor that year + since that timeSep 27 12:11
mjg59_I stopped paying attention after thenSep 27 12:12
highest_cubist_thrillsfair enoughSep 27 12:12
mjg59_I'd come up with a scheme to use remote attestation to be able to prove that the Tor hidden service you were accessing hadn't been compromised by the FBISep 27 12:12
highest_cubist_thrillsthat sounds impossible tbhSep 27 12:12
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im no security expertSep 27 12:12
mjg59_Eh based on the approaches we knew they were taking it would have workedSep 27 12:13
mjg59_They may have found other ways around thatSep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillsso if they used a different one it would fail?Sep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillsrightSep 27 12:13
mjg59_They'd have had to do a bunch more workSep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthat doesnt sound like a very reliable positive result thoughSep 27 12:13
mjg59_Nothing's a guaranteeSep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthats true of courseSep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillsbut to be fairSep 27 12:13
highest_cubist_thrillswellSep 27 12:14
mjg59_But they'd have had to start using some NSA-level stuffSep 27 12:14
highest_cubist_thrillsi think the most obvious outcome isSep 27 12:14
highest_cubist_thrillsnow they would do much more workSep 27 12:14
highest_cubist_thrillsbut maybe notSep 27 12:14
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mjg59_And the NSA wouldn't want that because they want to keep that shit for stuff that mattersSep 27 12:14
highest_cubist_thrillsright rightSep 27 12:14
mjg59_Anyway I should probably sleepSep 27 12:14
highest_cubist_thrillsits a shame youre not known for that insteadSep 27 12:15
mjg59_Sleeping?Sep 27 12:16
mjg59_That sounds pretty great tbhSep 27 12:17
highest_cubist_thrillsnoSep 27 12:17
mjg59_Champion sleeperSep 27 12:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthat sounds like probably your best hackSep 27 12:17
mjg59_Oh, I published the codeSep 27 12:17
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah butSep 27 12:17
highest_cubist_thrillsive never heard of it afaikSep 27 12:17
mjg59_Going to try to re-do something similar with container stuffSep 27 12:17
highest_cubist_thrillsi know you for the stallman thingSep 27 12:17
mjg59_Man it's almost like when I say that I actually care about individual liberty online that I do believe itSep 27 12:18
mjg59_But yes I should refocus on that stuff, there's been less for the past few years for a bunch of reasonsSep 27 12:18
highest_cubist_thrillsor maybe you just do liberty for the lulz :)Sep 27 12:18
highest_cubist_thrillsidk, i doubt even your therapist knows that oneSep 27 12:19
highest_cubist_thrillsand they would have a lot more to go onSep 27 12:19
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highest_cubist_thrillsI do believe it <- i believe you believe you believe itSep 27 12:20
highest_cubist_thrillsliberty is complicated anywaySep 27 12:21
highest_cubist_thrillsfree software wont be free as long as github rules the worldSep 27 12:22
frogGNU itself is problematic, for quality reasonsSep 27 12:23
highest_cubist_thrillsit costs a buck-oh-fiveSep 27 12:23
frogbeginning, with, the heart and core of GNU, which is their toolchain and buildsystemSep 27 12:23
frogstill working on it, to detangle those, and remove all runtime and build-time dependencies against itSep 27 12:24
MinceR27 130407 < mjg59_> MinceR: We're supposed to come to a reasonable conclusion about how to respond to an individual based on a number of accusations against himSep 27 12:25
highest_cubist_thrills/me wishes phanes was hereSep 27 12:25
MinceRoh, i know that oneSep 27 12:25
MinceRi've seen it alreadySep 27 12:25
highest_cubist_thrills/me has questionsSep 27 12:25
MinceRwhen it involved ShitHubSep 27 12:25
highest_cubist_thrillshow was shithub involvedSep 27 12:25
MinceRsee, this is one of the reasons why i wouldn't let SJWs judge peopleSep 27 12:25
MinceRapparently just the size of the cancel mob is sufficient to indict peopleSep 27 12:25
highest_cubist_thrillsacab, moral police etcSep 27 12:26
MinceRhighest_cubist_thrills: when they wrote a bullshit letter and published it on ShitHubSep 27 12:26
MinceRit wasn't about Appelbaum that timeSep 27 12:26
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MinceRbut it was the same principleSep 27 12:26
MinceRno evidence, tons of accusers => guiltySep 27 12:26
highest_cubist_thrillsthey didnt come to a reasonable conclusion eitherSep 27 12:26
MinceRthey don't do reasonableSep 27 12:26
highest_cubist_thrillscondemning mjg is much more powerful imo, when its done reasonablySep 27 12:27
highest_cubist_thrillsits not about whether HE deserves reasonable condemnationSep 27 12:28
MinceRthe things i condemn mjg59_ for were done very publiclySep 27 12:28
highest_cubist_thrillseverybody ELSE deserves the reasonable (honest) versionSep 27 12:28
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah as far as i knowSep 27 12:28
highest_cubist_thrillsive never criticised your condemnation of mjgSep 27 12:28
MinceRin support of a corporation whose past is also well knownSep 27 12:28
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause i cant find any flaws with itSep 27 12:28
frogthe GNU buildsystem itself, supposed to improve portability, in fact, ensures this, portability towards itselfSep 27 12:30
frogfor example, assuming if, i wanted to compile lynx web browser, which is the oldest actively maintained oneSep 27 12:30
highest_cubist_thrillswhat bothers me about the thing i read earlier, is that it may have conflated abuse with rapeSep 27 12:30
highest_cubist_thrillsand while abuse is wrongSep 27 12:30
highest_cubist_thrillsrape is more specificSep 27 12:30
highest_cubist_thrillsit has a legal definitionSep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillswhat it sounded like wasSep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillsthe abuse continued.Sep 27 12:31
frogand i didn't want to utilize GNU autoconf/automake/gnu-make... how much effort would lynx browser one alone be, to rewrite simple and clean POSIX make files for it?Sep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillsif that abuse included acts that are defined by the definition of rapeSep 27 12:31
frogto retain, at least, some 30year old "free software" web browserSep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillsthen why wouldnt it be rape, if that description is accurateSep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im not askingSep 27 12:31
frogwithout GNU build-systemSep 27 12:31
highest_cubist_thrillsi think once a safeword is given, the act should ceaseSep 27 12:32
highest_cubist_thrillswhether its rape or not depends on what precise act did not ceaseSep 27 12:32
highest_cubist_thrillsand that wasnt stated thereSep 27 12:32
highest_cubist_thrillsso it didnt answer my questionSep 27 12:32
frogat bootstrappable.org, they're still occupied to bootstrap autogen, and didn't succeed until a few days ago, to at least bootstrap compile GCC without pre-generated filesSep 27 12:32
highest_cubist_thrillsif this wasnt a common pattern...Sep 27 12:33
highest_cubist_thrillsi wouldnlt be so pedanticSep 27 12:33
frogi wouldn't at least bother with GNU autogen anymore, and instead use some other toolchainSep 27 12:33
highest_cubist_thrillswhat it says clearly is that appelbaum is abusiveSep 27 12:33
highest_cubist_thrillsit doesnt specify more than that.Sep 27 12:33
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe other things are more explicit elsewhereSep 27 12:34
highest_cubist_thrillsthats why i wish phanes was hereSep 27 12:34
highest_cubist_thrillsmobs dont ask people to make careful decisionsSep 27 12:34
highest_cubist_thrillsthey demand action / response and dont love waiting around for careful decisions eitherSep 27 12:34
highest_cubist_thrillsi take issue with the entire approachSep 27 12:35
highest_cubist_thrillsin a perfect would even mobs would take more care than thatSep 27 12:35
highest_cubist_thrillsworld Sep 27 12:35
highest_cubist_thrillsthey dont of courseSep 27 12:35
highest_cubist_thrillsmob justice is probably never defined as "thoughtful deliberation"Sep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillsmob thoughtful deliberationSep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillswe should talk about stallmanSep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillswhySep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause hes a terrible person who did all these terrible thingsSep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillswhat thingsSep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillswell he said things Sep 27 12:36
highest_cubist_thrillsalso he didnt let us hang moglen for what he saidSep 27 12:37
highest_cubist_thrillstheres a long pattern of half truthsSep 27 12:37
highest_cubist_thrillsand framingSep 27 12:37
highest_cubist_thrillsit makes people more sceptical, even cynicalSep 27 12:38
highest_cubist_thrillstoo bad it destroyed the whole free software movementSep 27 12:38
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highest_cubist_thrillsfunnily enough!Sep 27 12:39
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highest_cubist_thrillsif you replace the free software movement with the thought police movementSep 27 12:39
highest_cubist_thrillsyou get tpmSep 27 12:39
MinceRguess what "Secure Boot" relies on for various cryptographical operations :>Sep 27 12:39
MinceRand who supports "Secure Boot" :>Sep 27 12:40
highest_cubist_thrillsthat was the jokeSep 27 12:40
highest_cubist_thrillsfree computing is importantSep 27 12:40
highest_cubist_thrillsi consider free computing to be: free software, free culture, free hardwareSep 27 12:41
highest_cubist_thrillsfree culture matters-- but it has eaten itself by being one with the mobSep 27 12:41
highest_cubist_thrillsit hasnt ceased to be importantSep 27 12:41
highest_cubist_thrillsbut as a movement its not terribly viableSep 27 12:41
highest_cubist_thrills(and never was, sadly)Sep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillsfree software was more successful than free cultureSep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillswasSep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its deadSep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillsof free computing, free hardware has the most hopeSep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillssome people will saySep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillsthis will happenSep 27 12:42
highest_cubist_thrillsit doesnt matter what the software is likeSep 27 12:43
MinceRi have doubts about thatSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsif the hardware is freeSep 27 12:43
MinceRi've seen working free softwarSep 27 12:43
MinceReSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause the hardware is what you need to be in control ofSep 27 12:43
MinceRbut afaict all free hardware projects i've seen have failedSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsid rather be wrongSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsim talking about the movementSep 27 12:43
MinceRacquired unacceptable componentsSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillswellSep 27 12:43
MinceRor just plain didn't work (pinephone...)Sep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsfree hardware is just getting startedSep 27 12:43
highest_cubist_thrillsit may flop like free culture Sep 27 12:43
frogpinephone isn't free/open hardwareSep 27 12:44
highest_cubist_thrillsbut even if all our hardware was freeSep 27 12:44
highest_cubist_thrillsfree software would not cease to be importantSep 27 12:44
highest_cubist_thrillswe ultimately need bothSep 27 12:44
highest_cubist_thrillsthe free software movement and the free culture movementSep 27 12:45
highest_cubist_thrillstheyve eaten themselvesSep 27 12:45
highest_cubist_thrillsfree hardware has room to be exciting, because its "new"Sep 27 12:45
highest_cubist_thrillsbut someday free software will have to come backSep 27 12:45
highest_cubist_thrillsfor now its just leo on a fucking plank in the oceanSep 27 12:45
MinceR27 134407 < frog> pinephone isn't free/open hardware Sep 27 12:46
MinceRwhat is?Sep 27 12:46
highest_cubist_thrillssome chips that do very little right nowSep 27 12:47
MinceRyeahSep 27 12:47
highest_cubist_thrillsthat could change very quicklySep 27 12:47
MinceRcan i run an OS with memory protection on a free hardware CPU with no backdoors?Sep 27 12:47
highest_cubist_thrillsfrom eeproms i predicted fpgas and thumbdrivesSep 27 12:48
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i thought the market would never allow such thingsSep 27 12:48
MinceRthe moment RISC-V showed promise, intHell intruded into itSep 27 12:48
highest_cubist_thrillsfpgas beacuse you can COPY A CPUSep 27 12:48
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah entryism is a bitchSep 27 12:49
highest_cubist_thrillsidk whats supposed to stop entryism Sep 27 12:49
MinceRis an FPGA running an open core powerful enough to run a "modern" website in a browser?Sep 27 12:49
highest_cubist_thrillsunless its anticapitalismSep 27 12:49
highest_cubist_thrillswebsites are stupidSep 27 12:49
MinceRalso, is there an FPGA with not only fully free tooling but also no secrets in its design?Sep 27 12:49
highest_cubist_thrillsthe web is a broken standardSep 27 12:49
MinceR"modern" websites are stupid, nevertheless, one tends to need them nowadaysSep 27 12:49
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frogMinceR: some FPGA do exist which are capable to boot linux; none of them suffice for any of the "modern" web shitSep 27 12:52
MinceRi thought soSep 27 12:53
frogFPGA themselves and required tooling, are problematic tooSep 27 12:53
MinceRand they're probably not free themselvesSep 27 12:53
frogi consider RISC-V a political move, other free/open designs exist already, whose patents fully expiredSep 27 12:54
frogand RISC-V probably needs most recent toolchains/kernels, which are problematic for that many other reasons, it's moot to discussSep 27 12:54
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frogthe only "free hardware" options remaining, are the Z80 era realm, Gigatron etc.; and related projects almost always too depend on some problematic partsSep 27 12:55
frogeven the Gigatron TTL (Apollo mission late 1960s era TTL7400 series parts), this too requires a closed ATmel for the Pluggy McPlugface VGA/PS2 adapterSep 27 12:56
MinceRwhich of those have MMUs?Sep 27 12:56
froggood question, early Z80 designs don't contain any MMU nor DRAM controller, and use SRAM onlySep 27 12:57
frogalmost all other "modern" hardware designs utilize MMUSep 27 12:57
MinceRhas anyone built a Z80-based system with MMU? can it run unix?Sep 27 12:58
frogyes, some designs including MMU showcased FuzixOS bootedSep 27 12:58
frog16bit addressingSep 27 12:58
frogwith bank-switching, which is, limitedSep 27 12:59
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frogFuzixOS was where Alan Cox departedSep 27 12:59
froghowever, with FuzixOS/z80 i remain sceptical too, because SDCC compiler is written in C++, which excludes any reasonable bootstrapping of itSep 27 13:00
frogwith 32bit systems, which is the bare minimum of any practically useful system, the situation is... didn't drink vodka yet to talkSep 27 13:02
frogbecause, you need to consider both, always: hardware and compiler/toolchain supportSep 27 13:02
frogwith the intersection of this, currently i consider an ao486 type system deployed to FPGA together with a tcc-toolchain (no GNU-toolchain, no GNU-buildsystem, no-c++)Sep 27 13:03
frogfor ao486, the BIOS/firmware situation too seems close to acceptable, they implemented some seabios/bochs for itSep 27 13:03
frogdeployed to FPGA: thats a few dozen MHz, a few MiB of RAM, no USB1Sep 27 13:04
frogand it is, EXPENSIVE!!! the proposed Altera FPGA ship for $800Sep 27 13:04
froghence i consider the FPGA deployment optional, it must be possible, in theory at least, which it is, with ao486Sep 27 13:05
frogand in practice, any other x86 (32bit i think), intersects with what tcc-toolchain may supportSep 27 13:05
frogdidn't have time yet, to re-integrate any libc (mes-libc, musl-1.x) known to compile with tcc-toolchainSep 27 13:06
frogbefore i begin this, i will blacklist perl, GNU automake/autoconf etc... and see what remains in userspace as "free software"Sep 27 13:06
frognext, i will verify the linux kernel-2.4 ROLL-BACKSep 27 13:06
frogthen, i will re-integrate any libc which must pass with tcc-assemblerSep 27 13:07
frogthen, i will migrate the package set to Oasis Linux package management, and fork this to a distro named Paradise LinuxSep 27 13:07
MinceRdoes FuzixOS do actual memory protection with Z80+MMU?Sep 27 13:09
frogit does Bank-Switching, which swaps the entire address space for every single process, to my understandingSep 27 13:10
frogi think with this, no process can access the address space of any other processSep 27 13:10
MinceRyeah, i vaguely remembered thatSep 27 13:11
MinceRi'm no fan of thatSep 27 13:11
MinceRany application can still screw up the kernelSep 27 13:11
MinceRand then you get to reboot, if you noticeSep 27 13:11
frogyes, same kernel address space is mapped into each processSep 27 13:11
froganyway, Z80 with SDCC seems not desireable, because of the compiler, written in C++Sep 27 13:13
frogi consider Z80 suitable to practice assembly and basic programming, and for this 64KiB should sufficeSep 27 13:13
frog16bit seems not a desirable target for any unixSep 27 13:14
MinceRi've done that on 386 already (though i don't think i ventured beyond 8086 assembly)Sep 27 13:14
MinceRwhy is 16bit unsuitable for unix?Sep 27 13:14
frogwith such little memory, unix multi-user seems not the use-case; z80 is more appropriate for some real-time uController stuffSep 27 13:14
MinceRicSep 27 13:15
frogMinceR: 16bit address space, too little RAM, for any practically relevant use-case with multi-user unixSep 27 13:15
frogmost of the 16bit systems were CP/M or DOSSep 27 13:15
frogwhich is, still important, too Z80 assemble and BASIC are, it's just a different realm of tech with different use-casesSep 27 13:16
frogbootstrappable.org too made considerable and highly relevant progress with bootstrapping tcc-toolchainSep 27 13:19
froghowever, then they switch to GCC/GNU-buildsystem rather early; i will NOT!Sep 27 13:19
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frogto accomplish this, it is UNAVOIDABLE to detangle GNU entirely. that's the situation. even if i wanted to use some GNU utilities, i can't.Sep 27 13:21
frogbesides, i don't want to anymore.Sep 27 13:21
techrights-news"huh, bash 5.1.16(1)-release, at least in Polish translation, has `[-i tekst]` in the command line template in `help read`, but it only corresponds to `-o tekst - użycie TEKSTU jako początkowego tekstu dla Readline'a` in the options lis" gemini://g.mikf.pl/tinylog.gmiSep 27 13:23
frogtracking _all_ build-time dependencies against GNU (libtool, autoconf/automake, gnu-make, bash) won't be trivial, because i cannot migrate to an alternative build-host yetSep 27 13:24
frogat least, the tcc-toolchain system already does boot nicely, with an aarch32 userspace, and only musl-libc remaining which requires GNU binutilsSep 27 13:24
frognext, i'll wipe and replace _all_ GNU userspace parts which are entangled with GNU-buildsystemSep 27 13:25
frogas a bare minimum, of cause, a toybox or suckless.org ubase/sbase must remain, bearssl/bearssl-libtls, catgirl irc, vis-editor, lua script interpreter, make utility, tcc-toolchainSep 27 13:26
frogas another milestone, i consider the presence of www-client/lynx; and, very important dev-vcs/git compiled/linked without any GNU-toolchain/buildsystemSep 27 13:27
frogi am still thinking, to move my repositories, away from git entirely, and use CVS insteadSep 27 13:27
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schestowitz[TR]cvs ws okSep 27 13:42
schestowitz[TR]I used it in its haydays Sep 27 13:42
schestowitz[TR]heydays Sep 27 13:43
MinceRgit is so much betterSep 27 13:43
schestowitz[TR]yesSep 27 13:43
schestowitz[TR]but can be hard to manage (admin side)Sep 27 13:43
schestowitz[TR]to some people, git exists like magicSep 27 13:43
schestowitz[TR]in a vacuumSep 27 13:43
schestowitz[TR]because they outsourced to microsoft et alSep 27 13:43
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schestowitz[TR]lol:Sep 27 13:45
schestowitz[TR]even microsoft and gitlab cannot manage itSep 27 13:45
schestowitz[TR]how many times did they:Sep 27 13:45
schestowitz[TR]a) lose dataSep 27 13:45
schestowitz[TR]b) have prolonged dataSep 27 13:45
schestowitz[TR]c) failed to fulfil support requests from their fake "customers"?Sep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]microsoft githubSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]after the ICE protectSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]people who tolerate right wing shitSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]and racismSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]so they end up witrh  managers likeSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]aleex graveleySep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]plagiarist Sep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]criminalSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]drug dealerSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]and worseSep 27 13:46
schestowitz[TR]annnd his buddies, inc. mr. naked-at-the-party net-a-frienf-manSep 27 13:47
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ is cool with these peopleSep 27 13:47
schestowitz[TR]same weirdoesSep 27 13:47
schestowitz[TR]many overlapsSep 27 13:47
schestowitz[TR]and mutual connectionsSep 27 13:47
frogwith CVS, i can maintain my own stuff, but cannot access outside git repositories, of cause, regardless of github or elsewhereSep 27 13:48
techrights-news"Back in 2019 we announced QtHttpServer to the public, now we are extremely happy to introduce a technical preview, starting in Qt 6.4. for this project." https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-create-a-rest-api-with-qthttpserverSep 27 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | How to create a REST API with QtHttpServerSep 27 13:49
frogthis, would, at least, require migrating external git repositories to a local CVS tooSep 27 13:49
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frogcurrently, nonthing is blocked by git, and i hope git itself can be compiled/linked _without_ gnu-toolchain/buildsystem involvedSep 27 13:50
frogin any case, a transition to CVS too might be a precaution, to prevent future trouble with any external softwareSep 27 13:50
frogbesides, i need to check any CVS client/server itself can be compiled/linked without GNU involvedSep 27 13:51
frogin any case, the decision is made, to remove/replace GNU components everywhere; not because of GPLSep 27 13:51
schestowitz[TR]wait till yuo find out about the licence...Sep 27 13:51
schestowitz[TR]GPL-2.0-onlySep 27 13:52
frogi don't see any problem with itSep 27 13:52
schestowitz[TR]gnu is "on the package"Sep 27 13:53
schestowitz[TR]of gitSep 27 13:53
frogwhen i publish any binary anywhere, of cause i will publish sourcesSep 27 13:53
frogthe problem is, currently, i cannot publish anything at allSep 27 13:53
schestowitz[TR]so what's your intolerance of all of gnu then?Sep 27 13:53
frogschestowitz[TR]: software qualitySep 27 13:53
schestowitz[TR]all of it?Sep 27 13:53
schestowitz[TR]all the gnu developers ever?Sep 27 13:53
frogno, of cause not; and i don't think it is individual competence of gnu developers at fault eitherSep 27 13:54
frogthe GNU-toolchain/buildsystem themeselves, got a systemic issueSep 27 13:54
frogone of it, when GNU mentions portability, it implies mainly this: portability towards their system, and remain lockedSep 27 13:54
frognot by the license, by the toolchain/buildsystem technical qualitiesSep 27 13:55
techrights-news165+ JavaScript terms you need to know | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/javascript-glossary ䷉ Source: Open Source com | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/9/javascript-glossarySep 27 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-165+ JavaScript terms you need to know | Opensource.comSep 27 13:55
frogi had enough, when i saw various older configure.in not passing an autoreconf -if anymore, and the perl-5.8 roll-back necessary with tcc-toolchainSep 27 13:55
techrights-newsMicrobell at it again https://www.phoronix.com/news/RadeonSI-VCN-Async-Mesa-22.3Sep 27 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Microsoft: RadeonSI Enables Async VA-API For Faster Video Acceleration - PhoronixSep 27 13:55
frogTECHNICAL reasons, not GPL licensing onesSep 27 13:55
frogfurthermore, the generated configure scripts and makefiles are, unacceptable, for several reasonsSep 27 13:57
frogto regenerate those, autoconf/automake are required, which again got severe issues, i am not willing to acceptSep 27 13:57
frogit is OK, if GNU/FSF accept this, of cause; but too it must be possible, to detangle then, which is what they prevent with their toolchain/buildsystemSep 27 13:57
schestowitz-TRthank you for helping my sponsorSep 27 13:58
schestowitz-TRwhich also asks me to booost azureSep 27 13:58
schestowitz-TRand helps microsoft foist plutonSep 27 13:58
techuserschestowitz[TR]: did you marry because "love" or because it gave you some benefits irl?Sep 27 13:58
schestowitz[TR]love is a benefitSep 27 14:00
techuserI think love is a scamSep 27 14:00
schestowitz[TR]sometimes it isSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]russian women have a reputation for it, I heardSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]ukrainian alsoSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]but maybe not at all unique to themSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]not sure, never dated a russianSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]i chatted to one beforeSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]and she was mostly interested in how much money I was makingSep 27 14:01
schestowitz[TR]iircSep 27 14:02
techuserI don't believe in love anywaySep 27 14:02
schestowitz[TR]british with family from russiaSep 27 14:02
schestowitz[TR]techuser: your brother won't, eitherSep 27 14:02
schestowitz[TR]after what happened to himSep 27 14:02
techuserit makes no sense in this self-destructing worldSep 27 14:02
schestowitz[TR]if you want  love, you can get a petSep 27 14:03
schestowitz[TR]feed them and they will love youSep 27 14:03
schestowitz[TR]just don't hurt themSep 27 14:03
schestowitz[TR]pets have no concept of moneya dnd on't cheat on youSep 27 14:04
techuserso it still depends on foodSep 27 14:04
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 14:04
schestowitz[TR]fish is not expensiveSep 27 14:04
schestowitz[TR]we changed their water todaySep 27 14:04
schestowitz[TR]small fish don't need much foodSep 27 14:04
techuserI'd prefer some AI, but not the way it will be done (for-profit, remote server)Sep 27 14:04
techuserI want an offline AISep 27 14:05
schestowitz[TR]hey hi is nonsenseSep 27 14:05
techuserso it can replace socializingSep 27 14:05
schestowitz[TR]usually it just means some "logic"Sep 27 14:05
schestowitz[TR]algorithm with inputs and outputsSep 27 14:05
schestowitz[TR]socialising is overrated anywaySep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]from what I sawSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]in 21st centurySep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]it meansSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]find people you enviedSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]and then show off to themSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]to make them jealousSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]and "win"Sep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]that's BSSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]it's not social, eitherSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]it's a bunch of insecure a-holesSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]using up planetary resourcesSep 27 14:06
schestowitz[TR]Michael's tongue stuck in MIcrosoft's shoe https://www.phoronix.com/news/RadeonSI-VCN-Async-Mesa-22.3Sep 27 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Microsoft: RadeonSI Enables Async VA-API For Faster Video Acceleration - PhoronixSep 27 14:07
schestowitz[TR]so glad we dropped him in february this yearSep 27 14:07
schestowitz[TR]it's getting worseSep 27 14:07
techuserdropped whom?Sep 27 14:07
schestowitz[TR]he now openly invoted corporate moneySep 27 14:08
techuserand from whereSep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]the gifts don't sufficeSep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]phoronixSep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]we don't link to themSep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]except in irc somewtimes, for a laugh..Sep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]maybe his wifdemands the selloutSep 27 14:08
techuserergo is a shitty IRCdSep 27 14:08
schestowitz[TR]it wasn't always this badSep 27 14:08
techuserdoesn't support linkingSep 27 14:08
techuserinstead its devilopers focus on IRCv3 shit to destroy IRCSep 27 14:09
techrights-newsThis is Proprietary Softrware + Openwashing ploy: version 7.2 released, download for free • The Register https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/27/onlyoffice_72_released/Sep 27 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Onlyoffice version 7.2 released, download for free • The RegisterSep 27 14:10
schestowitz[TR]techuser: it's funny when you allege thisSep 27 14:10
schestowitz[TR]you are 18Sep 27 14:10
schestowitz[TR]and speak as if you gre up on old IRCSep 27 14:10
schestowitz[TR]*grewSep 27 14:10
schestowitz[TR]you missed the dalnet/mirc daysSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and the awful daysSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]when you could not scrollbackSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and had to dial upSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]with a modemSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and could now see channel historySep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and could not be always online, eitherSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]too expensive Sep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and connection not stableSep 27 14:12
schestowitz[TR]and you may need the phone line to make call and take incoming callsSep 27 14:12
techusermaybe awful days for IRC but they were good days otherwiseSep 27 14:13
techuserbecause now evil software expects you to be always connected when you use itSep 27 14:13
techusermany programs removed offline help pagesSep 27 14:13
techusermany programs phone homeSep 27 14:14
techuseror otherwise waste bandwidthSep 27 14:15
techrights-newsAtlantic Council = front group for global espionage mobsters https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/new-report-on-iot-security.htmlSep 27 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Report on IoT Security - Schneier on SecuritySep 27 14:16
techuseroh, and this IoT shit tooSep 27 14:16
schestowitz[TR]techuser: trueSep 27 14:16
schestowitz[TR]i wish people your age all grasped how bad that isSep 27 14:16
schestowitz[TR]many of them walk around attacked to a skinnerboxSep 27 14:17
schestowitz[TR]techuser: https://levelskip.com/how-to/Skinners-Box-and-Video-GamesSep 27 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Skinner's Box and Video Games: How to Create Addictive Games - LevelSkipSep 27 14:17
schestowitz[TR]this is your geneerationSep 27 14:17
schestowitz[TR]and some of mine, tooSep 27 14:17
techuserI used to play MMO gamesSep 27 14:18
schestowitz[TR]they are very addictiveSep 27 14:18
schestowitz[TR]and VERY time-consumingSep 27 14:18
techuserthey are said to be addictiveSep 27 14:18
techrights-newsOpen letter to the ITFlows Consortium: stop tech tools for predicting migration that can be repurposed to violate fundamental rights - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/open-letter-itflows-consortium/ ䷉ Source: AccessNow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/open-letter-itflows-consortium/Sep 27 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Open letter to the ITFlows Consortium: stop tech tools for predicting migration that can be repurposed to violate fundamental rights - Access NowSep 27 14:18
techuserWoW was released in 2004Sep 27 14:18
schestowitz[TR]they neutralise human beingsSep 27 14:18
techuserso maybe other generations tooSep 27 14:18
schestowitz[TR]while few steal all the capital and political powerSep 27 14:18
schestowitz[TR]they 'pacity' the populaceSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]like sportsSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]as a spectator thingSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]WoW was after warcraftSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]warcraft 1 and 2 were funSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]and you could play multiplayer over modemSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]which we did sometimesSep 27 14:19
schestowitz[TR]ooooor over novell netwareSep 27 14:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]warcraft was less addictiveSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]as there was no scoresheetSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]you just wanted to "finish" the gameSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]spend 2 hoursSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]go back to homeworkSep 27 14:20
techuserin WoW you can also reach the top levelSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]nobody judged youSep 27 14:20
schestowitz[TR]now we have "Gamers" dying with sleep deficittSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]and getting obeseSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]it was always an issueSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]but now a lot more severeSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]or people who never leave the bedSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]just staying there with a "smart" phoneSep 27 14:21
techuserLuis64_gamer exists hereSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]wasting their lives awaySep 27 14:21
techuseryou can ask him something. Idk what he does mostly.Sep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]yes,, but the nickname does not say muchSep 27 14:21
schestowitz[TR]playing a gaame in moderation is OKSep 27 14:22
schestowitz[TR]like people playing snakes on old nokia phonesSep 27 14:22
schestowitz[TR]btw, today's games tend to take up a lot of powerSep 27 14:22
techuserI keep playing repetitive games like solitaire while waiting for IRC messagesSep 27 14:22
schestowitz[TR]at an age of energy deficitSep 27 14:22
schestowitz[TR]you can run old "AAA" games ona  raspiSep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]at 5 wattsSep 27 14:23
techuserI have no goals in my lifeSep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]with AAA batteriesSep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]techuser: you help out in ircSep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]better than just playing some pointless gameSep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]or working hard Sep 27 14:23
schestowitz[TR]so someone else can buy 50 pairs of shoesSep 27 14:23
techuserI used to be on UplinkIRC, helping random players get on IRcSep 27 14:24
techuser*IRCSep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]and show off to people not seen in person since the 1980sSep 27 14:24
techuserbut then the admin became crazy SJWs and bans followed, and they started shunning Tor it seemsSep 27 14:24
techuserso I leftSep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]IRC is a rebellious act8ionSep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]against corporations that seek to control all the world's communicationsSep 27 14:24
techusersociety is self-destructing. There is no help.Sep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]and manipulate those commsSep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]to "Shape" societySep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]to their own benefit, not society'sSep 27 14:24
schestowitz[TR]like the netKKKop we have hereSep 27 14:25
MinceRi prefer fast-paced FPS-esSep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]using vile language Sep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]against a CDN execSep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]for not censoring sitesSep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]few among hundreds of millions or at least tens of millionsSep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]BTW, that cursing is CoC violationSep 27 14:25
schestowitz[TR]don't worry, matttty, I won't report youSep 27 14:25
MinceRi can't cast any curses :(Sep 27 14:26
schestowitz[TR]need manaSep 27 14:26
MinceRyeahSep 27 14:26
schestowitz[TR]mo mana mo probl;emsSep 27 14:26
techuserIRCv3 is ruining IRCSep 27 14:27
MinceRno mana mo problemsSep 27 14:27
techuserwe had many revolutions, yet some people start abusing others eventuallySep 27 14:27
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gUhRKVIjJtwSep 27 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Notorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo Problems (Official Music Video) [4K] - InvidiousSep 27 14:27
techusersociety can't be savedSep 27 14:27
schestowitz[TR]avoid itSep 27 14:28
techuserit will self-destruct eventuallySep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]make your subsetSep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]of societySep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]and make it livableSep 27 14:28
MinceRalso colonize your own planet so the others don't wipe you outSep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]but don't impose it on the restSep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]that's why passive aggressive bullies doSep 27 14:28
schestowitz[TR]taliban and mjg59_ Sep 27 14:28
techrights-newsPROPRIETARY LTS Qt 6.2.6 Released ⚓ https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released ䷉ Source: Qt | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-releasedSep 27 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Commercial LTS Qt 6.2.6 ReleasedSep 27 14:29
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: that's an issueSep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]notwithstandingSep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]some cults that insulated themselves from othersSep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]outsidersSep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]the government came after themSep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]even if they harmed nobodySep 27 14:30
schestowitz[TR]in the amazons the cheeto nazi is attacking the indiginous peopleSep 27 14:30
MinceRi thought that was another naziSep 27 14:31
MinceRbolsonaroSep 27 14:31
techrights-newsThere is a fist up his back end and he speaks like LF and Gulag want him to. He did not tolerate non-C languages in the kernel before. If he wants more langs, why not C++? Not enough lobbying and blackmail? Or brainwash 'at best'? https://itwire.com/open-source/support-for-rust-will-be-merged-in-6-1-kernel,-says-torvalds.htmlSep 27 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Support for Rust will be merged in 6.1 kernel, says TorvaldsSep 27 14:32
techrights-newsRust is 'for security', say corporations and ilk that also told us handing over control to Microsoft, in OUR OWN PC, is "security"Sep 27 14:33
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: cheato naziSep 27 14:34
schestowitz[TR]he plans to cheap in the upcoming electipnmSep 27 14:34
schestowitz[TR]or sic his mobSep 27 14:34
schestowitz[TR]like US jan 6 2021Sep 27 14:34
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2022/08/04/tumblr-gets-deep-08-04-22/Sep 27 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention TodaySep 27 14:35
techrights-newsRedhat.com is now broken. Cannot navigate without proprietary JAVASCRIPT!!! ICBM is killing Red Hat and freedom. At first it was developers.redhat.com. Now more of the main site!Sep 27 14:36
techrights-newsICBM got its words confused. They told them Red Hat was Free software, ICBM execs heard "Fuhrer software", got a hard-on.Sep 27 14:37
schestowitz[TR]activelow alsoSep 27 14:37
schestowitz[TR]working on it..Sep 27 14:38
techuseris activelow's current nickname frog?Sep 27 14:38
schestowitz[TR]yesSep 27 14:38
schestowitz[TR]pepe the frag [sic]Sep 27 14:38
schestowitz[TR]panzer anthemSep 27 14:38
schestowitz[TR]he and putin will liberate the "homeland" from invaders... using sixels and stuffSep 27 14:39
schestowitz[TR]then they can annex orbanland and conduct a referendumSep 27 14:40
schestowitz[TR]with sixel-powered voting machinesSep 27 14:40
techrights-newsFractal security audit - Julian’s Code Corner ⚓ https://blogs.gnome.org/jsparber/2022/09/27/fractal-security-audit/ ䷉ Source: Gnome | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blogs.gnome.org/jsparber/2022/09/27/fractal-security-audit/Sep 27 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Fractal security audit – Julian's Code CornerSep 27 14:41
schestowitz[TR]techuser: be like goerge https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EkTeZLiNCoMSep 27 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | When you are born in this world, you are given a ticket to the Freak Show - George Carlin - InvidiousSep 27 14:41
frogthe reasoning around sixels and web-browsers was another one: long-term reliable document storage and retrieval, including screen-rendering of text AND illustrations, for scientific publication, and printing support including sixels (or Epson raw bitmap)Sep 27 14:42
techrights-newsIoT project lifecycle: App-centric software development [Part II] | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/app-centric-software-development ䷉ Source: Ubuntubuzz | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/app-centric-software-developmentSep 27 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IoT project lifecycle: App-centric software development [Part II] | UbuntuSep 27 14:43
frogand there is many reasons, it is better not to clutter any of the required software for this with GNU involvedSep 27 14:43
frogif anything, GNU had proven, they are neither willing nor capable to provide long-term reliable/stable and standards compliant softwareSep 27 14:44
frogIBM MICROS~1 Wintel aren't any different; however i use free software, and that's what i can talk aboutSep 27 14:44
frogand, it is not fun anymore, to develop software with GNU involvedSep 27 14:45
frogthe defamation contest of FSF and the communities, is just another reasons, to stay away, far away from themSep 27 14:46
schestowitz[TR]waitSep 27 14:46
frogsoftware quality, tats racist...Sep 27 14:46
schestowitz[TR]did fsf defame also?Sep 27 14:46
schestowitz[TR]yes, good code has feelingsSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]so just merge the bad codeSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]it'll sort itself outSep 27 14:47
frogi don't care who was throwing mud at anyone elseSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]but don't "defame" the codeSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]that can crush heartsSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]it'll fix itselfSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]also put Microsoft Trojan horses in LinuxSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]and Gulag's NSA-friendly cipherSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]let it all inSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]don't be racistSep 27 14:47
MinceRit doesn't need to be fixed, it's "modern"Sep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]hahaSep 27 14:47
schestowitz[TR]likle, not matureSep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]with many bugsSep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]and hey, it's rustSep 27 14:48
MinceRit will just remain obviously broken for 11 years and we'll call it "stable"Sep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]so... secureSep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]magicSep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: in version 250Sep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]when purtin already rre-=establishes an empireSep 27 14:48
MinceRbut if something that's simple and works and wasn't updated for 1 year, we'll scream that it's "UNMAINTAINED" and replace it with something "modern"Sep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]like half of asia and half of europeSep 27 14:48
schestowitz[TR]x is still maintainedSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]so let's replace itSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]WAY-COOLSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]WAy-LANDSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]it's broken ?Sep 27 14:49
MinceRX is apparently maintained by people who don't understand its design :/Sep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]oh, sorrySep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]trrry again next releaseSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]repeat for 7 yearsSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]still broken?Sep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]blame developers for not writing their stuffSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]for your unnecessary cruftSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]those "apps" are not "modern" anywaySep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]they cannot be found in flathubSep 27 14:49
schestowitz[TR]and they use gitSep 27 14:50
schestowitz[TR]instead of githubSep 27 14:50
schestowitz[TR]or ven svnSep 27 14:50
schestowitz[TR]coming up next: sixel-waylandSep 27 14:50
schestowitz[TR]sixeldSep 27 14:50
schestowitz[TR]and systemd-sixeldSep 27 14:51
schestowitz[TR]with full dbus back endSep 27 14:51
MinceRdoes systemd even compile with tcc?Sep 27 14:51
schestowitz[TR]xsixel as compatibility layerSep 27 14:51
schestowitz[TR]tcc   is barely maintainedSep 27 14:51
schestowitz[TR]bellard left itSep 27 14:51
schestowitz[TR]oh, unmaintainedSep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]burn it!Sep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]let microsoft LP make another compilerSep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]with a "d" in itSep 27 14:52
MinceRlolSep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]gid=group id Sep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]but waitSep 27 14:52
MinceRsystemd-yourcodeisfuckedSep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]they will make a systemd thing for systemdSep 27 14:52
schestowitz[TR]systemctl start gidSep 27 14:53
frogsystemd is far less problematic, because it can be removed; dbus is worse, due to this, GNOME/GTK are practically absentSep 27 14:53
schestowitz[TR]gid checkoutSep 27 14:53
frogand far worse then GTK, which can be removed, and retain a a *nix workstation system...Sep 27 14:53
frogGNU-toolchain and buildsystem... this is the worstSep 27 14:54
frogyou can't detangle from this, you will loose almost everythingSep 27 14:54
techrights-newsStop the EUMigraTool rollout: predictive AI systems have no place in EU migration policies - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/eumigratool-predictive-ai-systems-eu/ ䷉ Source: AccessNow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/eumigratool-predictive-ai-systems-eu/Sep 27 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Stop the EUMigraTool rollout: predictive AI systems have no place in EU migration policies - Access NowSep 27 14:54
frogto compile a linux kernel, requires a roll-back to v2.4!Sep 27 14:54
techrights-newsJoint statement: civil society welcomes independent human rights assessment on Meta’s content moderation in Palestine and Israel - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/statement-meta-human-rights-palestine-israel/ ䷉ Source: AccessNow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/statement-meta-human-rights-palestine-israel/Sep 27 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Joint statement: civil society welcomes independent human rights assessment on Meta's content moderation in Palestine and Israel - Access NowSep 27 14:55
frogwait, for this you got rust and c++ inside kernel, llvm/clang, problem solved.Sep 27 14:55
frogthis evening, i will track and remove _all_ dependencies of GNU buildsystem and PerlSep 27 14:56
techrights-newsWhen Zuckerface filters the world's communications or a lot of the interaction between people is piped through his interference, censorship and propaganda pipeline https://www.accessnow.org/bsr-findings-meta-palestinian-rights/Sep 27 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Meta’s actions “adversely impacted” Palestinians’ rights: Access Now welcomes BSR findings - Access NowSep 27 14:56
frogtoybox userspace is still there, then i hope my dmux desktop environment will (it is mostly suckless.org stuff)Sep 27 14:57
frogthen next, git and cvs, lynx browser, catgirl irc client... i am almost certain i won't have mutt mailer anymoreSep 27 14:57
frogmeaning, i'll have to keep the frozen/archived gcc47/GNU profile for a little while, no big deal, it just remains frozen as it isSep 27 14:58
techrights-newsvkd3d: Import upstream release 1.5. https://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/commit/c3025582fd5be155ce8231ccce4d69916856dec7Sep 27 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.winehq.org Git - wine.git/commitSep 27 14:59
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techrights-newsredhat.com increasingly required PROPRIETARY JavaScript just to access!Sep 27 15:10
techrights-newsGet change alerts from any website with this open source tool | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/changedetection-io-open-source-website-changes ䷉ Source: ICBM | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/9/changedetection-io-open-source-website-changesSep 27 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get change alerts from any website with this open source tool | Opensource.comSep 27 15:11
MinceR(audio:music) https://apina.biz/192196.mp4?mode=sfwSep 27 15:11
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techrights-newsRed Hat has lost a lot of bright people https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/it-interview-questions-innovationSep 27 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 interview questions to detect an IT innovator | The Enterprisers ProjectSep 27 15:12
techrights-newsICBM is killing Fedora. No people -> no Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) issues. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-proposals-fwd-2022/Sep 27 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Call for Proposals: FWD 2022 – Fedora Community BlogSep 27 15:13
techrights-newsICBM: we helped Hitler, now we pretend to be WOKE, we impose CoC, going brokeSep 27 15:13
techrights-newsShutdown of Peertube.co.uk – one after another indie video hosting site https://dwaves.de/2022/09/27/shutdown-of-peertube-co-uk-one-after-another-indie-video-hosting-site/ "increasingly harsher rules and regulations"Sep 27 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-» Shutdown of Peertube.co.uk – one after another indie video hosting site | dwaves.deSep 27 15:14
techrights-newsmjg and ilk vs dweb: "Additionally, the proposed UK Online Safety Bill, if enacted, will make it almost impossible to host a site such as Peertube in the UK. This bill makes publishers, with the exception of large media companies, liable for the content hosted on their platform..." https://dwaves.de/2022/09/27/shutdown-of-peertube-co-uk-one-after-another-indie-video-hosting-site/Sep 27 15:15
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techrights-news"so this is it? another video hosting (besides youtube) site shutting down? Predict the shutdown of vimeo.com." https://dwaves.de/2022/09/27/shutdown-of-peertube-co-uk-one-after-another-indie-video-hosting-site/Sep 27 15:17
techrights-news"Because their model (probably) won’t fly as far as the constant advertisement streams of Alphabet’s Google’s Youtube (they are testing up to 10x advertisement clips in front of every video… which is just sick & insane)" https://dwaves.de/2022/09/27/shutdown-of-peertube-co-uk-one-after-another-indie-video-hosting-site/Sep 27 15:17
schestowitz[TR]guess who else wants to hold platforms liable and worseSep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]even holding a large CDN liableSep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]maybe next they will sue "the internets"Sep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]for being ""nazos"Sep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]*nazis"Sep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]but they will stay online regardlessSep 27 15:18
schestowitz[TR]online "support network"Sep 27 15:19
schestowitz[TR]meanwhile kiwi irc is still brokenSep 27 15:19
schestowitz[TR]almost 2 days nowSep 27 15:19
schestowitz[TR]no idea whySep 27 15:19
schestowitz[TR]maybe it's not coming back, eitherSep 27 15:19
schestowitz[TR]mibbit is spying on peopleSep 27 15:20
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schestowitz[TR]which is why original freenode umped itSep 27 15:20
schestowitz[TR]*dumpedSep 27 15:20
techrights-newsKernel 5.15.70 with simplefb https://bkhome.org/news/202209/kernel-51570-with-simplefb.html but it's older than 2.4 so herr sixel won't tolerate it anyhowSep 27 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel 5.15.70 with simplefbSep 27 15:21
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techrights-news"I will not be looking to hand over the service to another host" https://blog.peertube.co.uk/Sep 27 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.peertube.co.uk | Shutdown of Peertube.co.uk | Peertube UK BlogSep 27 15:22
techrights-newsWWW = where the age of a URL is like the lifetime of a beeSep 27 15:23
techrights-news...and Internet Archive faces lawsuits for 'daring' to extend the life of links with the Wayback MachineSep 27 15:23
techrights-newslinuxlinks back to posting webspam and SEO spam. Fake 'articles'. The next site to go defunct completely? https://www.linuxlinks.com/approaches-teaching-literature/Sep 27 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9 Approaches to Teaching Literature - LinuxLinksSep 27 15:24
techrights-newsBartłomiej Piotrowski: Enforcing pull request workflow and green CI status of PRs on Flathub repositories https://barthalion.blog/enforcing-pull-request-workflow-and-green-ci-status-of-prs-on-flathub-repositories/Sep 27 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-barthalion.blog | Enforcing pull request workflow and green CI status of PRs on Flathub repositoriesSep 27 15:25
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schestowitz[TR]techuser: watch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EkTeZLiNCoMSep 27 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | When you are born in this world, you are given a ticket to the Freak Show - George Carlin - InvidiousSep 27 15:35
techrights-newsInterpol seeks arrest of failed crypto-firm boss Do Kwon - BBC News ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63033262 ䷉ Source: BBC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63033262Sep 27 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Interpol seeks arrest of failed crypto-firm boss Do Kwon - BBC NewsSep 27 15:36
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Project Caviar ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Project_Caviar.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Project_Caviar.gmi ∎Sep 27 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Project CaviarSep 27 15:46
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security: Optus, GNOME, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Security_Optus_GNOME_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Security_Optus_GNOME_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 27 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security: Optus, GNOME, and MoreSep 27 15:49
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Sep 27 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming LeftoversSep 27 15:52
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Devices: Canonical, Raspberry Pi, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Hacking_on_hardware.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Hacking_on_hardware.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Devices: Canonical, Raspberry Pi, and MoreSep 27 16:01
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starstreak<schestowitz[TR]> and britney is cool with me <- im cool with you but not cool with daemonfc, he is transphobicSep 27 16:13
schestowitz[TR]I understandSep 27 16:13
starstreaki put him on ignore lolSep 27 16:14
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 16:15
schestowitz[TR]or you can confrontSep 27 16:15
starstreakhe can't go a day without being transphobic so ill unignore him and less than a day later he is spewing hate againSep 27 16:15
schestowitz[TR]to prove him wrongSep 27 16:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Fedora_Family_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Fedora_Family_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM LeftoversSep 27 16:15
starstreakyou can't argue with daemonfc and his walls of text, he just ignores itSep 27 16:15
techrights-newsLinks 27/09/2022: CRUX 3.7 Released and Project Caviar | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/27/project-caviar/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/27/project-caviar/Sep 27 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/09/2022: CRUX 3.7 Released and Project Caviar | TechrightsSep 27 16:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 16:20
techrights-newsBiden lives in another planet https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MOM_nE-k3qoSep 27 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | POTUS, Pandemic is over - InvidiousSep 27 16:22
techrights-newsEHIWPRM Wordo: ZONED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-27.gmiSep 27 16:23
techrights-news"This will not work in your dad's Forth (GForth?), because of interleaved headers. I think you can do that in ColorForth. My newest Forth keeps heads elsewhere, so it is perfectly legal to run into the next-defined word." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-09-27.2xforth.gmiSep 27 16:24
techrights-newsHere I Lie With Truth Here I Lie With TruthSep 27 16:24
techrights-newsHere I Lie With Truth gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~scientiac/poems/here_i_lie_with_truth.gmiSep 27 16:24
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:25
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: simplefb Support, Rust Bloat, and Linux Optimised for 386 and 48 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Kernel_simplefb_Support_Rust_Bloat_and_Linux_Optimised_for_386_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Kernel_simplefb_Support_Rust_Bloat_and_Linux_Optimised_for_386_.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kernel: simplefb Support, Rust Bloat, and Linux Optimised for 386 and 48Sep 27 16:25
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): BSD: EuroBSDCon Event and OpenBSD Services ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/BSD_EuroBSDCon_Event_and_OpenBSD_Services.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/BSD_EuroBSDCon_Event_and_OpenBSD_Services.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — BSD: EuroBSDCon Event and OpenBSD ServicesSep 27 16:25
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/foss_stuff.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/foss_stuff.gmi ∎Sep 27 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Free Software LeftoversSep 27 16:26
techrights-newsMicrosoft quality https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/27/ms-sql-servers-hacked-ransomware/Sep 27 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | MS SQL servers are getting hacked to deliver ransomware to orgs - Help Net SecuritySep 27 16:27
techrights-newsWhy async Rust https://blog.yoshuawuyts.com/why-async-rust/Sep 27 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.yoshuawuyts.com | Why Async RustSep 27 16:28
starstreakhttps://debugpointnews.com/no-pop-os-22-10/Sep 27 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://debugpointnews.com/no-pop-os-22-10/ )Sep 27 16:31
schestowitz[TR]rust  bsSep 27 16:31
starstreakwhats wrong with rust?Sep 27 16:33
MinceRtrademark policy, MICROS~1 control, "move fast and break things"Sep 27 16:33
MinceRit's also pushed as a C++ replacement, but it's not capable enoughSep 27 16:34
starstreaki once had a chat with someone who said that golang sucked because it wasn't rustSep 27 16:34
MinceRyes, stupid people existSep 27 16:34
MinceRgolang sucks because it's a bondage-and-discipline languageSep 27 16:34
starstreakfair enoughSep 27 16:34
MinceRwhich reminds meSep 27 16:34
MinceRrust sucks because it's a bondage-and-discipline languageSep 27 16:34
starstreaki didn't know microsoft controlled rustSep 27 16:34
starstreakmy first thought is, whats the point of buying a book on rust if they move fast and break thingsSep 27 16:35
MinceRmonitor supportSep 27 16:39
MinceRkindlingSep 27 16:39
MinceRweapon against arthropodsSep 27 16:39
MinceRbooks on rust are surprisingly versatile!Sep 27 16:40
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MinceR(cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/TQF0wysSep 27 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rimgo.bcow.xyz | I think I&apos;ve been adopted. What now. - rimgoSep 27 16:59
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starstreakhttps://youtu.be/_i-eG5pPnAASep 27 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_i-eG5pPnAASep 27 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | My Second Mayoral Debate - InvidiousSep 27 17:48
starstreakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTxRF5ag27ASep 27 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=uTxRF5ag27ASep 27 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Bjarne Stroustrup: C++ | Lex Fridman Podcast #48 - InvidiousSep 27 17:57
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techuserhiSep 27 18:35
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> my first thought is, whats the point of buying a book on rust if they move fast and break things <- s/buying a book on\ //Sep 27 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsthe point is to control projects written in itthe point is to control projects written in itSep 27 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsthe point of everything microsoft does is to control users and control competitionSep 27 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsrust fits right in with thatSep 27 18:38
highest_cubist_thrillsits not a programming language, its a webapi in programming languages clothing-- your program is broken, make these changesSep 27 18:39
highest_cubist_thrillsfuck freedom 1, fuck freedom 3, you want to play, play by our rulesSep 27 18:39
highest_cubist_thrillsrust controls software written in rustSep 27 18:39
highest_cubist_thrills to a lesser degree, python 3 does the sameSep 27 18:39
highest_cubist_thrillsto an INSIGNIFICANT degree, all non-standardised languages have the potential to do thisSep 27 18:39
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you can weaponise it, do it significantly, and rust is the king of thisSep 27 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillsyou buy a computer, its already obsolete, you write a program in rustSep 27 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillsits already brokenSep 27 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillsgee thats a nice program you got thereSep 27 18:40
highest_cubist_thrillsbe a shame if upstream came along and broke it. AGAIN.Sep 27 18:41
highest_cubist_thrills"we make [developers] paint [their] face and dance"-- john lennonSep 27 18:42
highest_cubist_thrillsthen wonder why if they dont love us!Sep 27 18:42
highest_cubist_thrillswhen languages have real standards, this isnt a yoke, the yoke is brokenSep 27 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillsc++, fucking mess that it is, as far as i know doesnt really do this to peopleSep 27 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillstaking 20 years to break something no one uses is standard as fuckSep 27 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillsrust is the opposite of this-- as far as i know its the worst language about this in existence, certainly among languages relevant to free softwareSep 27 18:45
highest_cubist_thrills but if something that's simple and works and wasn't updated for 1 year, we'll scream that it's "UNMAINTAINED" and replace it with something "modern" <- yeah because software has to be taken overSep 27 18:49
highest_cubist_thrillswriting software thats stable and hasnt had real problems in a year, that doesnt benefit microsoft in the long runSep 27 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsbreaking software to the point where it gathers bugs that create actual crises for users and stability, so that corporations can swoop in to save the daySep 27 18:50
highest_cubist_thrillsmicrosoft is the like the proverbial (and sadly, existant) fireman that sets a fire so he can "heroically" put it outSep 27 18:51
highest_cubist_thrillsgee thats a nice project you got thereSep 27 18:51
highest_cubist_thrillsbe a shame if someone had to set it ablaze so we could sell our anti-fire servicesSep 27 18:51
highest_cubist_thrillsrust is a treadmillSep 27 18:52
highest_cubist_thrillseven worse, is that not only does this technical abomination existSep 27 18:54
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it creates a new normal of shit being broken-- or rather an old normalSep 27 18:54
highest_cubist_thrillsfree software ALLOWED people to develop tools for making software that didnt yoke them to the self-serving whims of corporationsSep 27 18:55
highest_cubist_thrillsgithub, wildly anti-standard "languages" (clownapis) like rust Sep 27 18:55
highest_cubist_thrillsrecreate microsoft culture: every project is at war with every other project, just like the departments at microsoft (under ballmer) were constantly trying to fuck each otherSep 27 18:56
highest_cubist_thrillsfree software becomes a huge civil war-- gnome fucks xfce, rust fucks everything written in it, users form mobs to take out leadersSep 27 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsevery project is toxic now-- in a VERY deliberately corporate waySep 27 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsits not just the technology thats been taken overSep 27 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthe culture has been gutted, spliced, re-educatedSep 27 18:57
highest_cubist_thrillsand rust totally accomplishes at least part of thatSep 27 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillswar is peace, freedom is slavery, forever broken is well-maintainedSep 27 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillsrust is a diseaseSep 27 18:58
schestowitz[TR]MinceR> books on rust are surprisingly versatile!Sep 27 18:58
schestowitz[TR]just what Linus needsSep 27 18:58
highest_cubist_thrillsnothing is better maintained than systemdSep 27 18:58
schestowitz[TR]rust is a fadSep 27 18:58
schestowitz[TR]who will maintain that junk?Sep 27 18:59
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean, you have to basically get out and push just to keep it in the airSep 27 18:59
schestowitz[TR]so many people resigned from the core team and other teams thius past yearSep 27 18:59
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highest_cubist_thrillsso LOTS of people are maintaining the fuck out of itSep 27 18:59
schestowitz[TR]SJVN: this is what LF pays me to say we needSep 27 18:59
highest_cubist_thrillsso many people resigned from the core team and other teams thius past year <- oh well thats the other thingSep 27 18:59
schestowitz[TR]sign  of health!Sep 27 18:59
schestowitz[TR]it moves  so fastSep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]like mjg59_  moves from one job to the nextSep 27 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillswhen your m.o. is to break everything that actually workedSep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]yeshSep 27 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillsits a lot easier to drag people from one broken one-solution-fits-all to another oneSep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]matlab CAN be like thisSep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]major overhauls too oftenSep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]no worrySep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]just keep LICENSIJNG the latyest versionSep 27 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillsso when they get tired of systemd, strap in, its time for users to have no choice "again"Sep 27 19:00
schestowitz[TR]and pray the licence server stays upSep 27 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillsyoull use what microsoft fucking tells youSep 27 19:00
highest_cubist_thrillsand youll fucking LOVE itSep 27 19:01
highest_cubist_thrillsor youre a bigot / neckbeard / greybeardSep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]coming soon rust 2Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]3Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]4Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]5Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]6Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]6...Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]1365Sep 27 19:01
highest_cubist_thrillsno apologies to sikhs for "neckbeard" Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]136Sep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]seen that beforeSep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]rust release every 6 weeksSep 27 19:01
schestowitz[TR]becaue last release had bugs Sep 27 19:02
schestowitz[TR]new one has fewer KNOWN bugsSep 27 19:02
schestowitz[TR]and 5,000 new lines of codeSep 27 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsrust: BOHICASep 27 19:02
schestowitz[TR]lines removed: 5Sep 27 19:02
schestowitz[TR]to fix 5 bugs in 5 weeksSep 27 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd: BOHICASep 27 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsthe great thing about linux being recreated in rusts image of courseSep 27 19:02
highest_cubist_thrillsis that linux will finally dieSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft media:Sep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]there is a new Linux holeSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]it's actually systemd bugSep 27 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillsthe bad thing about this of courseSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]but we can call it "Linux"Sep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]soon: same for rustSep 27 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillsis that when they use it to kill linux (the kernel)Sep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]Linux has a major holeSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]you: but.. this is a RUST holeSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]them: yes, but Linus uses rustSep 27 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillslinux is a major hole, and its made by major holesSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]patch immediatelyu!Sep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]polkit is linusSep 27 19:03
schestowitz[TR]rust is linusSep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsis that when they use it to kill linux (the kernel) <- they will also get people to kill everything (slight exaggeration, doesnt matter)Sep 27 19:04
schestowitz[TR]i keep typing linus instead of linuxSep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsPORD <- patch or repair dailySep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi keep typing linus instead of linux <- its "linucks"Sep 27 19:04
schestowitz[TR]btwSep 27 19:04
schestowitz[TR]basicallySep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsyesSep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsits linucks btwSep 27 19:04
schestowitz[TR]attack surface!Sep 27 19:04
schestowitz[TR]starstreak: Sep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> attack surface! <- ewSep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsits not cute when you do itSep 27 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillscertainly less soSep 27 19:05
schestowitz[TR]attack Micosoft(RM) Surface(TM)Sep 27 19:05
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can try it on mjg thoughSep 27 19:05
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09 Is Out for Your Phone and Tablet with a New Default Homescreen ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Plasma_Mobile_Gear_22_09_Is_Out_for_Your_Phone_and_Tablet.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Plasma_Mobile_Gear_22_09_Is_Out_for_Your_Phone_and_Tablet.gmi ∎Sep 27 19:05
highest_cubist_thrillsyou both need to get it out of your systemSep 27 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09 Is Out for Your Phone and Tablet with a New Default HomescreenSep 27 19:05
techrights-newsLinux SERVICE PACK 1 by Canonical https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-announces-ubuntu-22-04-lts-support-for-flexran-reference-softwareSep 27 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical Announces Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Support for FlexRAN Reference Software | UbuntuSep 27 19:07
techrights-newsMicrosoft as a Service.. for National 'Security' Boot AgencySep 27 19:08
techrights-newsHow open-source data labeling technology can mitigate bias | VentureBeat ⚓ https://venturebeat.com/ai/how-open-source-data-labeling-technology-can-mitigate-bias/ ䷉ Source: Venture Beat | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//venturebeat.com/ai/how-open-source-data-labeling-technology-can-mitigate-bias/Sep 27 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How open-source data labeling technology can mitigate bias | VentureBeatSep 27 19:09
techrights-newsCount elevator passengers with the Nicla Vision and Edge Impulse | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/count-elevator-passengers-with-the-nicla-vision-and-edge-impulse/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/count-elevator-passengers-with-the-nicla-vision-and-edge-impulse/Sep 27 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Count elevator passengers with the Nicla Vision and Edge Impulse | Arduino BlogSep 27 19:10
techrights-newsStandalone Arduino Nano RP2040 Connect-controlled computer runs BASIC for IoT development | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/standalone-arduino-nano-rp2040-connect-controlled-computer-runs-basic-for-iot-development/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/standalone-arduino-nano-rp2040-connect-controlled-computer-runs-basic-for-iot-devSep 27 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Standalone Arduino Nano RP2040 Connect-controlled computer runs BASIC for IoT development | Arduino BlogSep 27 19:11
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techrights-newsReadline version 8.2 (stable) released on 26 September 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/ReadlineSep 27 19:22
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techrights-newsHype at the buzzwords,endorsed by Microsoft frauds (Gartner) https://containerjournal.com/features/getting-started-with-kubernetes-at-the-edge/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_GroupSep 27 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | Getting Started With Kubernetes at the Edge - Container JournalSep 27 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - TechrightsSep 27 19:24
techrights-newsConflating Linux with clown computing stupidity ⚓ https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/defenders-prepared-cyberattacks-linux-cloud-migration ䷉ Source: Dark Reading | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.darkreading.com/application-security/defenders-prepared-cyberattacks-linux-cloud-migrationSep 27 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Defenders Be Prepared: Cyberattacks Surge Against Linux Amid Cloud MigrationSep 27 19:25
MinceRhttps://apina.biz/192146.jpg?mode=sfwSep 27 19:26
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techrights-newsAnother fool shaming everyone into outsourcing your operations, pretending that rents are cheaper than ownership, aside from other issues https://containerjournal.com/features/you-cant-afford-to-not-be-in-the-cloud/Sep 27 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | You Can’t Afford To Not Be in the Cloud - Container JournalSep 27 19:27
starstreak<schestowitz[TR]> attack surface! <- ATTACK SURFACE!Sep 27 19:27
starstreakLinucksSep 27 19:27
schestowitz[TR]man with mic memeSep 27 19:27
starstreak"I'm your worst nightmare" -ESRSep 27 19:28
techrights-newsOSGeoLive 15 is out. Web site not updated yet https://live.osgeo.org/en/index.htmlSep 27 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-live.osgeo.org | Welcome to OSGeoLive 14.0 — OSGeoLive 14.0 DocumentationSep 27 19:29
schestowitz[TR]what ever happened to the people who canceled ESR?Sep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]They vanishedSep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]doing nothingSep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]people realised they're doing nothingSep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]and so the world moved onSep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]they're disposablesSep 27 19:30
schestowitz[TR]maybe that's the right word for themSep 27 19:31
schestowitz[TR]"disposables"Sep 27 19:31
schestowitz[TR]corporations use themSep 27 19:31
schestowitz[TR]and then throiw them awaySep 27 19:31
schestowitz[TR]like suicide bombersSep 27 19:31
schestowitz[TR]in radical movementsSep 27 19:31
techrights-newsLiLyGo T-SIMCAM ESP32-S3 camera development board supports optional 4G LTE connectivity - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/27/lilygo-t-simcam-esp32-s3-cam-development-board-4g-lte/ ䷉ Source: CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/27/lilygo-t-simcam-esp32-s3-cam-development-board-4g-lte/Sep 27 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | LiLyGo T-SIMCAM ESP32-S3 camera development board supports optional 4G LTE connectivity - CNX SoftwareSep 27 19:32
techrights-newsUseless junk, fake security, usually also surveillance https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-nfc-apps-for-android/Sep 27 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | Top 5 Best NFC Apps for Android Devices in 2022Sep 27 19:32
techrights-newsAlways-working NFC, anonymous too: CASHSep 27 19:33
techrights-newsPower Efficiency?????????? THIS??????????????? Are we on the same planet? https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/593013165/amd-launches-ryzen-embedded-v3000-series-processors-delivering-new-levels-of-performance-and-power-efficiency-for-always-on-storage-and-networkingSep 27 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | AMD Launches Ryzen Embedded V3000 Series Processors Delivering New Levels of Performance and Power Efficiency for “Always-On” Storage and Networking - EIN PresswireSep 27 19:34
psydroid2AMDPOWERSep 27 19:35
techrights-newsAMD: "POWER EFFICIENCY!!!" .... "35-54W... 35-54W ...." Yeah!!! Some efficiency!!Sep 27 19:35
schestowitz[TR]psydroid2: https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/593013165/amd-launches-ryzen-embedded-v3000-series-processors-delivering-new-levels-of-performance-and-power-efficiency-for-always-on-storage-and-networkingSep 27 19:35
schestowitz[TR]only 54 Sep 27 19:35
schestowitz[TR]a bulb, a bright one, can take 20 or 40Sep 27 19:35
schestowitz[TR]this isnjust the CPUSep 27 19:36
schestowitz[TR]not the rest of the unitySep 27 19:36
schestowitz[TR]*unitSep 27 19:36
schestowitz[TR]not GPU, eitherSep 27 19:36
schestowitz[TR]no screen, no peripheralsSep 27 19:36
psydroid2schestowitz[TR], I talked to some people about it yesterday including a hardware person who has been designing boards for embedded systems and serversSep 27 19:36
psydroid2he seems to agree with me that this is the end of x86Sep 27 19:36
psydroid2and that is a legacy platform that will end up in serversSep 27 19:37
techrights-newsUbuntu is not an "invention"; it's Debian with another name and some staff that customises it. https://www.thesouthafrican.com/technology/five-south-african-it-inventions-that-changed-the-world-breaking-27-september-2022/Sep 27 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesouthafrican.com | Five South African IT inventions that changed the worldSep 27 19:37
psydroid2I have no plans to ever buy this hardwareSep 27 19:37
psydroid2the previous generation of AMD CPUs is much cheaper and uses less powerSep 27 19:37
schestowitz[TR]some still existSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]over time they do feature churb, bloatSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]more coresSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]more powerSep 27 19:38
psydroid2so if you do have that compatibility requirement get that older and much cheaper generationSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]and they never stop and think how to make things leanerSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]no financial incentive toSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]then risc comes alongSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]with mipsSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]and they take over a while new range of devicesSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]tablets, "smart""" phonesSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]SBCsSep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]then Intel makes "Atom"Sep 27 19:38
schestowitz[TR]to retrofit bad design to small thingsSep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]and it doesn't work outSep 27 19:39
psydroid2he also said cheap is what will rule the future of hardwareSep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]a 35 pound SBCSep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]becomes $200 NUC or similarSep 27 19:39
psydroid2and we have been seeing this is in SBCs and IoT hardwareSep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]x86 companies:Sep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]but it can run WindowsSep 27 19:39
psydroid2what is the worst part is that the Intel hardware doesn't perform any betterSep 27 19:39
schestowitz[TR]Phoronix funded by AMD: thanks Microsoft!!Sep 27 19:39
psydroid2https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/Sep 27 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New ArmSep 27 19:40
schestowitz[TR]today: https://www.phoronix.com/news/RadeonSI-VCN-Async-Mesa-22.3Sep 27 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Microsoft: RadeonSI Enables Async VA-API For Faster Video Acceleration - PhoronixSep 27 19:40
schestowitz[TR]phronix has just done THREE Intel articles in a ROWSep 27 19:40
psydroid2when he isn't being a prick he can write some sensible articlesSep 27 19:40
schestowitz[TR]with their BROCHURESSep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]the meat of the articles is their  BROCHURESSep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Arc-A770-OctoberSep 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Arc Graphics A770 Launching 12 October For $329 USD - PhoronixSep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Core-13th-Gen-Raptor-LakeSep 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Announces 13th Gen "Raptor Lake" - Linux Benchmarks To Come - PhoronixSep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-On-Demand-Xeon-SDSi-SPRSep 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Confirms "On Demand" Upgrades With Sapphire Rapids (Software Defined Silicon) - PhoronixSep 27 19:41
*schestowitz[TR] scratches headSep 27 19:41
psydroid2PhoRonixSep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]how is this about LINUX???Sep 27 19:41
schestowitz[TR]https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=2022&image=arc_graphics_octoberSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]ad?Sep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]or article feature image?Sep 27 19:42
psydroid2the formerSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR];launch dateSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]price..Sep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]lol, $329Sep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]just for a tiny processorSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]sorry, GPUSep 27 19:42
psydroid2you can buy a few systems at this priceSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]that performs VERY poorlySep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]compared to the competitionSep 27 19:42
schestowitz[TR]people told Michael that... in the forumsSep 27 19:43
psydroid2I know I never spent more than €100 on a discrete GPUSep 27 19:43
psydroid2the number one requirement being that it works with free driversSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]the above 3 links are in a rowSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]Intel, Intel, IntelSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]price and availability marketing shotsSep 27 19:43
psydroid2it's just my two high-end laptops have Nvidia graphicsSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]maybe he takes it in both holes nowSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]Intela nd AMDSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]x86 is the same thoughSep 27 19:43
schestowitz[TR]it's homogenicSep 27 19:43
psydroid2I don't know if you saw that presentation by Krste Asanović that I linked yesterdaySep 27 19:44
schestowitz[TR]nvidia is bad also, but it's in the same categorySep 27 19:44
schestowitz[TR]of billions of transisitorsSep 27 19:44
schestowitz[TR]they don't even design it like thatSep 27 19:44
schestowitz[TR]they just 'copy-paste the same unitsSep 27 19:44
schestowitz[TR]to make a massive waferSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]and rely on small mm processesSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]and make more and more of the sameSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]to multiply power usage, tooSep 27 19:45
psydroid2the future for Nvidia is also the enterpriseSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]if they had sonwe low mm processsesSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]and kept it simpleSep 27 19:45
psydroid2they are alienating their customer base on the client sideSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]eleganet systems tooSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]they could keep wattage near 1 wattSep 27 19:45
schestowitz[TR]nvidia markets itself like this nowSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]they use the wqord "workload"Sep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]and "industrial"Sep 27 19:46
psydroid2it makes me wonder if it is ignorance or malice that is at the root of this hunger for powerSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]that'''s like judging germany heavy machinery by the weightSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]rather than functionSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]50tonne presserSep 27 19:46
psydroid2it may still fly in the US, but in Europe this becoming a big noSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]part of it is wasteSep 27 19:46
schestowitz[TR]they are accustomed to cheeap energySep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]and then build accordinglySep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]like plasmsa TVsSep 27 19:47
*schestowitz[TR] checksSep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]EU banned themSep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]https://www.technology.gelsonluz.com/2022/05/how-much-electricity-does-plasma-tv-use.htmlSep 27 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technology.gelsonluz.com | How much electricity does a TV use (Plasma, LED, LCD and CRT) 📺Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]24-inch TV: uses about 20W watts.Sep 27 19:47
psydroid2someone in the EU must find a clueSep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]50-inch TV: needs 77 watts.Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]55-inch TV: uses 98.6 watts.Sep 27 19:47
psydroid2at least I hope soSep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]"For example, a CRT TV may need 3.4 watts per screen inch, while a plasma TV will need more than 9.4 watts per inch.Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]"Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]!!!Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]wow!!!Sep 27 19:47
schestowitz[TR]no wodner eu banned thatSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]sort ofgSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]*ofSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]even before the energy deficitsSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]and now we have a blown gas pipeSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]who knows what happens nextSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]rolling blackouts?Sep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]5-inch plasma=300 wattsSep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]300!!Sep 27 19:48
schestowitz[TR]42-inch plasma: 220 wattsSep 27 19:48
techrights-newsPwndrop on Linode | Linux Journal ⚓ https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/pwndrop-linode ䷉ Source: Linux Journal | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxjournal.com/content/pwndrop-linodeSep 27 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Pwndrop on Linode | Linux JournalSep 27 19:49
schestowitz[TR]  /s/5/50/Sep 27 19:50
schestowitz[TR]we build and buy products for showoffSep 27 19:50
schestowitz[TR]based on false assumption of energy price and availabilitySep 27 19:50
psydroid2I already said so many years agoSep 27 19:50
schestowitz[TR]me: what happens if the price quadruples?Sep 27 19:50
schestowitz[TR]then what/Sep 27 19:50
schestowitz[TR]who wqould buy iut from you???Sep 27 19:50
psydroid2my first PC had a Pentium 200 MMX and didn't make much noise or dissipated a lot of heatSep 27 19:50
psydroid2then I got a desktop with an AMD Athlon and years later the Loongson desktopSep 27 19:51
schestowitz[TR]I had 166 mmxSep 27 19:51
psydroid2I really liked that latter machine, but there was no follow upSep 27 19:51
schestowitz[TR]the fan made some soundSep 27 19:51
schestowitz[TR]but fans are just rotationalSep 27 19:51
schestowitz[TR]they even scatter some heat inside the roomSep 27 19:52
psydroid2so it took another decade until I got my first ARM SBC in 2017Sep 27 19:52
schestowitz[TR]I still use AthlonSep 27 19:52
schestowitz[TR]Intel Celeron becomes "Intel PRocessor"Sep 27 19:52
schestowitz[TR]because the brand got toxicSep 27 19:52
schestowitz[TR]associate with really really badSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]and unfit for anythingSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]just takes up lots of powerSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]no reason to really manufacture thoseSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]Atom is dead thoseSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]well, it's deadSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]so they now have "Intel Processor"Sep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]generic nameSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]"Colllgate Toothpaste"Sep 27 19:53
psydroid2I gave that Athlon machine to my sister when I built a new desktop with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 and later one with an AMD Phenom X4Sep 27 19:53
psydroid2those are collecting dust now, because it doesn't make sense to run them anymoreSep 27 19:53
schestowitz[TR]"What PC are you using?"Sep 27 19:54
schestowitz[TR]"Acer Laptop"Sep 27 19:54
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schestowitz[TR]"yes, but which model?Sep 27 19:54
schestowitz[TR]Acer(R) Laptop(TM)Sep 27 19:54
MinceRit probably has an Intel(R) Processor(TM)Sep 27 19:55
techrights-newsUnderstanding the "fork bomb" an 11 character string that can crash Windows, Mac, or Linux machines | Boing Boing ⚓ https://boingboing.net/2022/09/27/understanding-the-fork-bomb-an-11-character-string-that-can-crash-windows-mac-or-linux-machines.html ䷉ Source: BoingBoingSep 27 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Understanding the "fork bomb" an 11 character string that can crash Windows, Mac, or Linux machines | Boing BoingSep 27 19:55
MinceRnvmSep 27 19:55
MinceRthe industry doesn't like calling them laptops anymore, thoughSep 27 19:55
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MinceRthey call them notebooksSep 27 19:55
MinceRi wonder whySep 27 19:56
psydroid2because you can write notes on themSep 27 19:56
psydroid2while burning your lapSep 27 19:56
MinceRmaybe some of them have insufficient cooling and so they can get damaged and/or damage the user if they're used in the lapSep 27 19:56
MinceRiirc there was some crApple crap that was advertised showing it used in people's laps but the documentation said you weren't supposed to do thatSep 27 19:56
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techrights-newsDabbling in CGI gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-09-27.gmiSep 27 19:58
DaemonFCMinceR, You know, if The Doctor ever does regenerate and become a ginger, finally, that would make him a transginger.Sep 27 19:59
DaemonFCI wonder how mjg59_ would feel about the joke.Sep 27 19:59
DaemonFC*Shittering intensifies!*Sep 27 19:59
MinceR:>Sep 27 19:59
MinceR"only a ginger can call another ginger ginger"Sep 27 19:59
techrights-newsWhat if The Sims were sentient? gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-09-25.gmiSep 27 19:59
techrights-news"Read the damn contract. If you moved in and no one painted the apartment for you, then you don't need to paint it on the way out." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1139Sep 27 20:01
DaemonFCI was wanting mjg59_'s expert opinion about something before I finish blogging about GNOME 43. If he has a minute. I would like to know how I can work it in that Polari, the IRC client of GNOME, can't remember nickserv and SASL passwords without offending the trans people. Only transphobes criticize GNOME, you know.Sep 27 20:01
DaemonFCThey call her Molly de Blanc so you have a fairly accurate depiction of her mental state.Sep 27 20:02
DaemonFC"You know, when we gang up on people we disagree with, we can push them around and bully them!" -de BlancSep 27 20:03
DaemonFCThis is the mjg59_ crowd.Sep 27 20:03
schestowitz[TR]shitter brigadeSep 27 20:03
schestowitz[TR]birds of feather flock totherSep 27 20:03
schestowitz[TR]while other people get shit doneSep 27 20:03
schestowitz[TR]like delivering a pizzaSep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1565911338299232257Sep 27 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: You utter fucking piece of shit https://t.co/CNsfkFhGn6Sep 27 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eastdakota: This is incredibly sad news. Peter is one of the true defenders of the Internet. https://t.co/hbL5c6qe4aSep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]RMS is rude Sep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]the community is impoliteSep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ should appointed police hereSep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]no anger management issuesSep 27 20:04
schestowitz[TR]he once asked me for access to the back end of a serverSep 27 20:06
MinceRewSep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]like I would grant him this...Sep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]said he would investtiage the back endSep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]of tux machinesSep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]which he does not even understand Sep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]had to explain to him perl is used only to make static pagesSep 27 20:06
schestowitz[TR]code reading comperension deficitSep 27 20:06
DaemonFCI've had some pretty nasty hacks in place to work around Fedora OS bugs before that I would generally not recommend to other people.Sep 27 20:07
DaemonFCI wonder what mjg59_ would have said during "code review".Sep 27 20:07
schestowitz[TR]oh btwSep 27 20:07
schestowitz[TR]if I complain that mjg59_  calls people "tter fucking piece of shit"Sep 27 20:07
schestowitz[TR]the cocommitee would accuse MESep 27 20:08
schestowitz[TR]of "speech policing"Sep 27 20:08
schestowitz[TR]tbhey have their terms sorted outSep 27 20:08
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schestowitz[TR]so it[''s never their faulSep 27 20:08
schestowitz[TR]and I obstruct their cursingSep 27 20:08
schestowitz[TR]I police their speechSep 27 20:08
schestowitz[TR]like they want me to do to othersSep 27 20:08
techrights-newsHmm :/ "SPONSORED CONTENT" https://insidehpc.com/2022/09/how-the-hpc-ai-rocky-linux-server-operating-system-rose-from-the-centos-ashes/Sep 27 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the HPC-AI Rocky Linux Server Operating System Rose from the CentOS Ashes - High-Performance Computing News Analysis | insideHPCSep 27 20:08
DaemonFCFor the most part, I just stick to chat networks without a "CoC". That way people just act like adults instead of some spoiled rich manbaby like mjg59_.Sep 27 20:09
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Element is not a "web app".Sep 27 20:10
techrights-newsXeroLinux could be the most beautiful Linux desktop on the market https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/26/XeroLinux_Review_Fusion_of_Arch_and_KDE_Plasma.shtmlSep 27 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — XeroLinux Review: Fusion of Arch and KDE Plasma (UPDATED)Sep 27 20:11
DaemonFCParts of it work in non-Chrome browsers, but it's blocking the voice and video chats now.Sep 27 20:11
DaemonFCEven in browsers that have all of the APIs it needs.Sep 27 20:11
DaemonFCIt goes through poking around to find out what browser you use and disables things or locks you out of Element entirely, even if your browser can run it.Sep 27 20:11
DaemonFCThey seem to be trying to use "Maximum Pressure" in this "Free Software" to make people give up and either use their Electron app or Chrome itself.Sep 27 20:12
techrights-newsGadget Watch: Steam Deck, the Linux-powered games console ⚓ https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/gadget-master/gadget-watch/gadget-watch-steam-deck-the-linux-powered-games-console-2022-09/ ䷉ Source: Electronics Weekly | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/gadget-master/gadget-watch/gadget-watch-steam-deck-the-linux-powered-games-console-2022-09/Sep 27 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electronicsweekly.com | Gadget Watch: Steam Deck, the Linux-powered games consoleSep 27 20:12
DaemonFCIt tries to block SeaMonkey. Fedora's patches to SeaMonkey bypass Element's block, but the latest version has changed it so things don't always work right without GULAG WebComponents.Sep 27 20:13
techrights-newsApptainer itself can be a security liability https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/09/n29037775/apptainer-1-1-0-a-linux-foundation-project-formerly-singularity-arrives-with-added-security-featurSep 27 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apptainer 1.1.0, a Linux Foundation project (formerly Singularity), Arrives With Added Security Features and Build Improvements - BenzingaSep 27 20:13
DaemonFCThis is crazy.Sep 27 20:14
psydroid2Matrix in GULAG's backpocket?Sep 27 20:14
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psydroid2or Element ratherSep 27 20:14
DaemonFCThen if that's not bad enough, some of the local "trans" moderators have gone on a tear banning other home servers because like one person out of thousands said something they don't like.Sep 27 20:14
DaemonFCMatrix.org is walling itself off.Sep 27 20:15
DaemonFC<psydroid2> or Element ratherSep 27 20:15
DaemonFCIt's the matrix.org people who are maintaining Element.Sep 27 20:15
DaemonFCSo they obviously have a clear preference for Chrome and want to make sure it doesn't work right for anyone else.Sep 27 20:16
psydroid2when I have the right hardware I'll run my own homeserverSep 27 20:16
psydroid2I don't know why anyone would have a preference for ChromeSep 27 20:16
DaemonFCIt only lets GNOME Web in because it thinks it's Safari and then it tells you that you can't make voice or video calls even though WebRTC works.Sep 27 20:16
psydroid2I never use itSep 27 20:16
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DaemonFC"With the technology itself, there’s design and usability issues. FOSS can just be hard, or not work. The FOSS community has a lot of problems, and talking about them would become quite long (and this is already quite long :))." [...] "One of the first steps we must take is to understand that we cannot build technology that works for everyone without everyone being involved." -Molly de Blanc Sep 27 20:17
techrights-newsBribing Linus after he recommended AMD and ARM https://amp.hothardware.com/news/pat-gelsinger-bestows-linus-torvalds-with-intels-first-innovation-awardSep 27 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amp.hothardware.com | Pat Gelsinger Bestows Linux Creator Linus Torvalds With Intel's First Innovation Award | HotHardwareSep 27 20:18
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): BellSoft introduces Alpaquita Cloud Native Platform and Alpaquita Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/BellSoft_introduces_Alpaquita_Cloud_Native_Platform_and_Alpaqui.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/BellSoft_introduces_Alpaquita_Cloud_Native_Platform_and_Alpaqui.gmi ∎Sep 27 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — BellSoft introduces Alpaquita Cloud Native Platform and Alpaquita LinuxSep 27 20:18
DaemonFCI guess her definition of involve everyone is throw out anyone who expresses a mild disapproval of like 0.1% of the population.Sep 27 20:18
DaemonFCWhich would be mjg59_'s position too.Sep 27 20:18
DaemonFCSo basically, more than two-thirds of the public should be banned from open source software because 0.1% might get their feelings hurt.Sep 27 20:18
DaemonFCApproval of trans people has historically polled quite low, across party lines and political beliefs.Sep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]the goal is to destabilise effortsSep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]and projectsSep 27 20:19
DaemonFCEven among political progressives, it's less than half.Sep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]in the name of people you don't speak forSep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ speaks for trans people as much as I doSep 27 20:19
DaemonFCSo they mean to throw out damned near everybody.Sep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]we are "equally trans"Sep 27 20:19
schestowitz[TR]but anywayt,, focus on the technical issuesSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]he did many bad thingsSep 27 20:20
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]technically, ethically, legallySep 27 20:20
DaemonFCThere's a difference between "approval" and "tolerating".Sep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]don't focus on his "edge"Sep 27 20:20
DaemonFCI tolerate trans people.Sep 27 20:20
psydroid2exclude everyoneSep 27 20:20
DaemonFCI can tolerate a head cold too, you know.Sep 27 20:20
*psydroid2 wants to be excluded all the timeSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]head cols hurtSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]trans people don't hurtSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]just staat homeSep 27 20:20
schestowitz[TR]so bad analogySep 27 20:20
DaemonFC"Tolerate" doesn't mean that I have to approve of something. Just, it's there and I can't do anything about it.Sep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]i asked him this morning what his parentsd think of itSep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]and he didn not answer what I askedSep 27 20:21
psydroid2"you are an excluded person 100% of time"Sep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]he changes the questionSep 27 20:21
psydroid2of the*Sep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]so who knows what his parents thought about itSep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]i said,Sep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]m,aybe they tolerate that as much as DaemonFC's parents support his gaynessSep 27 20:21
schestowitz[TR]they doin'tSep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]it's their sonSep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]they learne to tolerate itSep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]and his partnerSep 27 20:22
DaemonFCWhen the court handed down their despicable ruling and a probation officer asked how I felt about her, I gave her the same reply Kirk did to the Klingon commander in Star Trek. "You're here. There's nothing I can do about it.". She said, "That's a good attitude.". The Klingon said, "Good. Honest hatred. Very refreshing.".Sep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]based on storties, ryan's mom was not willing to help with immigratyionmSep 27 20:22
DaemonFCSo it sailed right over her head I guess.Sep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]if it was some america girl, she would bend all over herselfSep 27 20:22
schestowitz[TR]*americanSep 27 20:22
DaemonFCPassive-aggressive. Just kind of stay on the sidelines and hope I fail all by myself.Sep 27 20:23
DaemonFCOccasional snide remark.Sep 27 20:23
cubexyzErrand of Mercy, if I recall it rightSep 27 20:23
DaemonFCThat's all I've gotten from my parents.Sep 27 20:23
schestowitz[TR]anyway, back to tech nowSep 27 20:23
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: yeahSep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]they just about tolerate gaysSep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]just aboutSep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]if it's familySep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]who knows what they say BEHIND your backSep 27 20:24
cubexyzI heard that win11 encrypts it's partitions automaticallySep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]'encrypt'Sep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]microsoft has the keysSep 27 20:24
schestowitz[TR]and it bricks things, a lotSep 27 20:24
cubexyzyesSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]so it controls all your data tooSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]the OS is a Trojan horseSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]for them to take over your whole lifeSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]VIsta 12: we also scan all your fileSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]you arer presumed terrorist who rapes kidsSep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]"we must check you are NOT"Sep 27 20:25
schestowitz[TR]TSA: the mandatory prove you're not a terrorist checkpointSep 27 20:26
schestowitz[TR]"prove you don't put tnt in your testoiclesSep 27 20:26
schestowitz[TR]"let us touch just in case..."Sep 27 20:26
schestowitz[TR]"don't worry, we wear rubber gloves';Sep 27 20:27
cubexyzhackers will hack UEFI or windows thoughSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]("we also hire some pedophiles and ignore reports of that")Sep 27 20:27
cubexyzremoving the auto-encryptionSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]that happenedSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]UEFI got ceracked many timesSep 27 20:27
psydroid2hackers can come and hack my windows and steal my UEFISep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]inc. 'seucre' bootSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]it's not about securitySep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]it's about NSA?Microsoft remotely controlling your whole lieSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]via your PCSep 27 20:27
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSASep 27 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsSep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]*lifeSep 27 20:28
cubexyzpeople need to be able to turn of secure boot if necessarySep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]using a lie ;-)Sep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]the lie of "protecting you"Sep 27 20:28
cubexyzoffSep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]"we need remote control to your machine... for your own preotection"Sep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]"protecting you from yourself"Sep 27 20:28
schestowitz[TR]"we also assassinate people"Sep 27 20:29
*psydroid2 has secure boot and tpm turned off on all his laptops that unfortunately come with UEFISep 27 20:29
techrights-news'The Linux Experiment' has jumped the shark. After cancelling RMS by signing a defamatory letter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJdHAJnKqFsSep 27 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=tJdHAJnKqFsSep 27 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.riverside.rocks | MICROSOFT isn't the ENEMY of Linux and FOSS anymore, but it's no friend either... - InvidiousSep 27 20:30
psydroid2MICROSOFT is a friend in need, a friend indeedSep 27 20:31
MinceRa friend with weed?Sep 27 20:31
psydroid2a friend that shoots friendly fire is betterSep 27 20:31
psydroid2yesSep 27 20:31
MinceR"with friends like these, who needs enemies?"Sep 27 20:31
techrights-news0 A.D. Alpha 26 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 22.04 via PPA | UbuntuHandbook ⚓ https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/09/0ad-alpha-26-ubuntu-2204-ppa/ ䷉ Source: Ubuntu Handbook | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/09/0ad-alpha-26-ubuntu-2204-ppa/Sep 27 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | 0 A.D. Alpha 26 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 22.04 via PPA | UbuntuHandbookSep 27 20:32
techrights-news"After a first release on the Epic Games Store in 2021, Kena Bridge of Spirits, is making its debut on Steam for the first time today on the 27th of September. I took it for a quick spin to see how well it would run on Linux. You have the answer below in video." https://boilingsteam.com/kena-bridge-of-spirits-released-on-steam-today-runs-fine-on-linux-with-proton/Sep 27 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Kena Bridge of Spirits, Released on Steam Today, Runs Fine on Linux with Proton - Boiling SteamSep 27 20:32
techrights-newsIt just gets marked as "deleted" https://www.addictivetips.com/messaging/how-to-delete-telegram-account/Sep 27 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/messaging/how-to-delete-telegram-account/ )Sep 27 20:33
cubexyzI've seen win7 machines get trashed... Sep 27 20:33
cubexyzyou connect to the internet and then... ""Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes. Do not turnSep 27 20:34
cubexyzoff your computer."Sep 27 20:34
cubexyzand it just grinds away on the hard drive indefinitelySep 27 20:34
techrights-newsArchcraft 2022.09.16 overview | Yet another minimal Linux distribution, based on Arch Linux. - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EU6yMHTht9U | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/EU6yMHTht9USep 27 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Archcraft 2022.09.16 overview | Yet another minimal Linux distribution, based on Arch Linux. - InvidiousSep 27 20:34
cubexyzso I replaced it with various different Linux distros on some customers computersSep 27 20:35
techrights-newsIt is utterly dumb to promote Microsoft crap for Linux, more so bloated junk that Microsoft officially abandoned, which means it's abandoned and orphaned https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-atom-text-editor-on-ubuntu/Sep 27 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | How to Install Atom Text Editor on Ubuntu 22.04Sep 27 20:35
cubexyzyou have to air gap old windows machines, for security and to just use old softwareSep 27 20:36
techrights-newsPlasma Mobile Gear ⚙ 22.09 is Out - Plasma Mobile ⚓ https://plasma-mobile.org/2022/09/27/plasma-mobile-gear-22-09/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//plasma-mobile.org/2022/09/27/plasma-mobile-gear-22-09/Sep 27 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plasma-mobile.org | Plasma Mobile Gear ⚙ 22.09 is Out - Plasma MobileSep 27 20:39
DaemonFCI doubt anyone was still gunning for Windows 98 near the end. You could reduce the attack surface a lot just by running RoM II SE on it and gutting it of IE, Outlook, VBScript, JScript, etc.Sep 27 20:39
DaemonFCIt removed well over half of the "OS".Sep 27 20:40
cubexyzI see the odd XP box stillSep 27 20:40
techrights-newsLinux will be ruined by Rust over the next 10 years. Too late now. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220927131518.30000-1-ojeda@kernel.org/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/Sep 27 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v10 00/27] Rust support - Miguel OjedaSep 27 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | TechrightsSep 27 20:40
DaemonFCI assume you could use a firewall and unbind the rather stupid things from the network adapter, and install all the hotfixes that still applied to the remainder of the OS, and install KernelEx.Sep 27 20:41
DaemonFCThat would be an interesting system.Sep 27 20:41
DaemonFCPart Windows 9x, part Windows "XP/Vista" by way of Wine. No IE and crap.Sep 27 20:41
techrights-newsWhy does linuxtoday shill proprietary software of Microsoft? https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/how-to-integrate-github-and-jira/Sep 27 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | How to Integrate GitHub and Jira | Linux TodaySep 27 20:41
DaemonFCmjg59_ doesn't like this sort of thing.Sep 27 20:41
DaemonFCHe thinks that extending your OS is always malicious.Sep 27 20:41
cubexyzwhat about WINE?Sep 27 20:42
DaemonFCWindows 98 could run most software up through like 2013 or so with KernelEx patched into the Windows 98 kernel.Sep 27 20:42
DaemonFCI doubt that current VLC or anything still works.Sep 27 20:42
techrights-newsClown computing https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/27/cisa-updates-advisory-threat-actors-exploiting-multiple-cvesSep 27 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Updates Advisory on Threat Actors Exploiting Multiple CVEs Against Zimbra Collaboration Suite | CISASep 27 20:42
DaemonFCYou _might_ be able to get one of those Goanna browsers that still targets XP working.Sep 27 20:42
cubexyzI just don't bother with windows for personal use, I'm totally done with itSep 27 20:44
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): WordPress 6.1 Beta 2 Now Available ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/WordPress_6_1_Beta_2_Now_Available.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/WordPress_6_1_Beta_2_Now_Available.gmi ∎Sep 27 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — WordPress 6.1 Beta 2 Now AvailableSep 27 20:44
techrights-newsx86 trash inside Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/27/obsolete_amd_acpi_fix/Sep 27 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Removing an obsolete AMD fix makes Linux kernel 6 quicker • The RegisterSep 27 20:45
cubexyzit just keeps getting worseSep 27 20:45
techrights-newsHow to infest Debian with Microsoft malware that has de facto back doors https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-microsoft-teams-on-debian-11-bullseye/Sep 27 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install Microsoft Teams on Debian 11 Bullseye - LinuxCapableSep 27 20:46
techrights-newsiTWire - Optus chief under pressure to quit over handling of breach ⚓ https://itwire.com/security/optus-chief-under-pressure-to-quit-over-handling-of-breach.html ䷉ Source: IT Wire | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/optus-chief-under-pressure-to-quit-over-handling-of-breach.htmlSep 27 20:47
cubexyzMinceR, you'll find this interesting:Sep 27 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Optus chief under pressure to quit over handling of breachSep 27 20:47
cubexyzMX Linux 21 remains a systemd-free GNU/Linux distribution featuring SysVinit as default init system""Sep 27 20:47
cubexyzit's not bad, I've got it on one boxSep 27 20:47
techrights-news"More than a set of techniques to improve individual fitness, Johann Friedrich Ludwig Christoph Jahn’s gymnastics were meant to train a new form of body politic." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/hamann-turner/Sep 27 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | The Turns of the *Turnverein*: Heinrich Hamann’s Gymnastic Photographs (ca. 1902) – The Public Domain ReviewSep 27 20:47
techrights-newsmany Fedora services offline today. Well done, ICBM. Nuke away?Sep 27 20:48
MinceRcubexyz: goodSep 27 20:48
techrights-newsFedora: "1gb internal switches will be upgraded. 30min outage is likely during this time period." That's a very long time for a switch upgrade and ICBM has no money for hot spares or HA?Sep 27 20:49
techrights-newsRust is insensitive: uses offensive terms, "On Friday, 14 October, we will discuss how to deal with "disabled tests" (can we report Rust to Microsoft GitHub for CoC violation?) https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/09/23/compiler-team-sep-oct-steering-cycle.htmlSep 27 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Rust Compiler Early October 2022 Steering Cycle | Inside Rust BlogSep 27 20:51
schestowitz[TR]"disabled tests" = offensiveSep 27 20:51
schestowitz[TR]discuss. Sep 27 20:51
schestowitz[TR]:-)Sep 27 20:51
techrights-newsUsing smart home tech to care for your pets | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/using-smart-home-tech-to-care-for-your-pets/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/using-smart-home-tech-to-care-for-your-pets/Sep 27 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Using smart home tech to care for your pets | Arduino BlogSep 27 20:52
schestowitz[TR]nazi germany did "disabled tests"Sep 27 20:52
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/Sep 27 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Looney Tunes – Part 2: The “Difficult Legacy” and Its Dark Historical Shadow | TechrightsSep 27 20:52
schestowitz[TR]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4Sep 27 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Aktion T4 - WikipediaSep 27 20:52
techrights-news5 of the Best Solutions for Monitoring Website Changes - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/solutions-for-monitoring-website-changes/ ䷉ Source: Make Tech Easier | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/solutions-for-monitoring-website-changes/Sep 27 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 5 of the Best Solutions for Monitoring Website Changes - Make Tech EasierSep 27 20:54
techrights-news"Back in April I wrote about issues with how we handle firmware in Debian, and I also spoke about it at DebConf in July. Since then, we've started the General Resolution process - this led to a lot of discussion on the the debian-vote mailing list and we're now into the second week of the voting phase." https://blog.einval.com/2022/09/27#firmware-voteSep 27 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.einval.com | Steve's blogSep 27 20:55
MinceRhttps://apina.biz/167259.jpg?mode=sfwSep 27 20:55
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techrights-newsIntel got many shills and corrupted 'journalists' doing puff pieces for it today, e.g. Timothy Prickett Morgan (paid shill for Intel and ICBM; he doesn't deny these bribes) https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/27/intel-to-broaden-fpga-lineup-and-make-them-at-home/Sep 27 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Intel To Broaden FPGA Lineup And Make Them At HomeSep 27 20:56
DaemonFCThere are some reasons why you'd want to keep extending Windows 98. Not today, obviously, but throughout the 2000s.Sep 27 20:57
techrights-newsSean Michael Kerner also did a puff piece; his current employment "assigns" puff pieces to him... that's the business model (webspam) https://venturebeat.com/ai/intel-geti-and-openvino-efforts-advance-ai-and-computer-vision/Sep 27 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Geti and OpenVINO efforts advance AI and computer vision | VentureBeatSep 27 20:57
DaemonFCMaybe updating to XP would be impossible because the hardware demands were too high.Sep 27 20:57
DaemonFCMaybe the hardware never got Linux drivers.Sep 27 20:57
DaemonFCMaybe Windows 98 was going to be the only OS that machine ever ran and it was find a way to extend it, or toss the machine.Sep 27 20:58
techrights-newsWhen "press reports" become a product to be sold (companies buying 'articles' about themselves), then such "media" isn't worth having at all. All it does is, it distracts from honest writings.Sep 27 20:58
DaemonFCI ran across some XP machines that someone "upgraded" from Windows 98. The whole thing was a complete mess.Sep 27 20:58
DaemonFCThe file systems never even got converted from FAT32!Sep 27 20:58
DaemonFCXP supported installing and running on FAT32 even though it was a terrible idea to run it like that, in the case of upgrade installations.Sep 27 20:59
DaemonFCBut if you did a clean install, it was not allowed.Sep 27 20:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▆▅▁▇▁▂▆▆▅▆▆▇▃▆▇▁▂▇▅▃▄█▄▅▆▆▆▄▅▁▂█▆▆▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 58.00 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▁▂██▁▁▂▁▂▁▁██▁▂▁▃▄▁▁▁▂▁▁▁█▇█▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 91.86▕ swarm size (avg): 119.58  ⟲Sep 27 20:59
DaemonFCThere was a conversion program.Sep 27 20:59
techrights-newsWhy Data Brokers Are After Your Personal Information And How Can You Stay Safe ⚓ https://thishosting.rocks/why-data-brokers-are-after-your-personal-information-and-how-can-you-stay-safe/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thishosting.rocks/why-data-brokers-are-after-your-personal-information-and-how-can-you-stay-safe/Sep 27 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thishosting.rocks | Why Data Brokers Are After Your Personal Information And How Can You Stay SafeSep 27 20:59
MinceRif you want a filesystem that doesn't suck, you'll need a free unix anywaySep 27 20:59
DaemonFCI ended up running the conversion program then defragmenting the file system immediately.Sep 27 20:59
DaemonFCThat took a while.Sep 27 20:59
psydroid2https://amp.hothardware.com/news/pat-gelsinger-bestows-linus-torvalds-with-intels-first-innovation-awardSep 27 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amp.hothardware.com | Pat Gelsinger Bestows Linux Creator Linus Torvalds With Intel's First Innovation Award | HotHardwareSep 27 21:00
psydroid2now we have not only Tim Sweeny but also Tim SweezySep 27 21:00
techrights-newsProprietary software: severity 9.8 out of 10. "Successful exploitation could fully compromise the device." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-270-01Sep 27 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Hitachi Energy AFS660/AFS665 | CISASep 27 21:00
psydroid2I wonder where Tim Sleazy is hanging outSep 27 21:01
cubexyzthe win98 folks should have been looking at redhat 5.2 Sep 27 21:01
techrights-news"Out-of-Bounds Write and Improper Authentication" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-270-02Sep 27 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Hitachi Energy APM Edge | CISASep 27 21:01
cubexyzI remember the era wellSep 27 21:01
psydroid2I didn't know anything about distributions until 1999 or soSep 27 21:02
psydroid2when a relative showed me SuSESep 27 21:02
techrights-newsRDP strikes again. Thanks, Microsoft! "Rockwell Automation reports this vulnerability affects the following versions of ThinManager ThinServer, a thin client and remote desktop protocol (RDP) server management software" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-270-03Sep 27 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Rockwell Automation ThinManager ThinServer | CISASep 27 21:02
cubexyzRyerson Polytech started using Darkstar Linux in 1994Sep 27 21:02
DaemonFCYou could get around the no FAT32 on clean install limit by creating a FAT32 volume and then telling XP to install to it.Sep 27 21:02
psydroid2so a year later I bought a SuSE 7.0 boxSep 27 21:03
cubexyzbefore that, I didn't see LinuxSep 27 21:03
DaemonFCIt's just that the setup program would not offer to make one.Sep 27 21:03
techrights-newsHacktoberfes outsourced to PROPRIETARY software https://www.fosslife.org/hacktoberfest-2022-registration-now-openSep 27 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Hacktoberfest 2022 Registration Now OpenSep 27 21:03
starstreakmy first linucks was redhat 5.2Sep 27 21:03
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techrights-newsEuroBSDcon 2022 | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP’ Czanik ⚓ https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/eurobsdcon2022/ ䷉ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peter.czanik.hu/posts/eurobsdcon2022/Sep 27 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | EuroBSDcon 2022 | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' CzanikSep 27 21:04
cubexyzwhen did FAT32 come out?Sep 27 21:04
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starstreakwin95?Sep 27 21:05
cubexyz1996 Sep 27 21:05
cubexyzah, the bad old daysSep 27 21:05
starstreaki had fond memories of the 90sSep 27 21:05
starstreakgood old windows 3.11 which i ran in 96Sep 27 21:05
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psydroid2win9x was giving me so many problems from the very first daySep 27 21:06
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psydroid2the first time I got a computer I had to learn to reinstall it 3 hours after unpacking itSep 27 21:06
cubexyzI'm old enough to remember non microsoft computersSep 27 21:07
cubexyzAtari ST, Amiga, CDC Viking 721 :)Sep 27 21:08
techrights-newsWWWMalware Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop ⚓ https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_27.html ䷉ Source: Gulag | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_27.htmlSep 27 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for DesktopSep 27 21:08
starstreaki still run windows 3.11, in dosbox-xSep 27 21:08
psydroid2I had an MSX2 until 1997Sep 27 21:09
psydroid2my friends had Commodore, Atari and NintendoSep 27 21:09
psydroid2my uncle was the first person with a PCSep 27 21:09
psydroid2in our family at leastSep 27 21:10
cubexyzoh I can remember before home computers Sep 27 21:10
starstreaki grew up with NintendoSep 27 21:10
cubexyzgot a typewriter for my 10th birthday :)Sep 27 21:10
psydroid2I learned to type on a mechanical typewriter :)Sep 27 21:11
psydroid2later on my uncle gave me an electric typewriterSep 27 21:11
psydroid2I actually used it a lot in secondary schoolSep 27 21:11
cubexyzCommodore PET, TRS-80 and Apple II were the earliest "PCs" I sawSep 27 21:11
cubexyzstores didn't sell any computers until about 1978-1979 or soSep 27 21:12
psydroid2he had a VIC-20 and a C64Sep 27 21:12
psydroid2ohSep 27 21:12
cubexyzbefore that there were DEC PDPs, I can remember the end of that eraSep 27 21:13
techrights-newsBalanced Coverage in Phoronix Today | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/27/phoronix-promotional-ads/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/27/phoronix-promotional-ads/Sep 27 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Balanced Coverage in Phoronix Today | TechrightsSep 27 21:14
schestowitz[TR]^ what MinceR  saidSep 27 21:14
schestowitz[TR]psydroid2: michael not performingSep 27 21:14
psydroid2I wasn't around yet in that eraSep 27 21:14
cubexyzyes, the bad old days... no GNU, no GCC, no internetSep 27 21:15
psydroid2michael is an excellent businessman wearing a suit whenever it suits himSep 27 21:15
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], If I had to compare mjg59_ to a South Park character, it would be Garrison. Garrison was an awful teacher and he about got fired from the school a bunch of times. Then he realized if he was gay, nobody would fire him, so he was gay, and then when he realized he could sue the school if they fired him for being gay and get a ton of money, he used "Mr. Slave" to portray what a freak he was.Sep 27 21:15
techrights-news"After moving from rEFInd and Syslinux boot managers, to Limine, the "Fix broken video" menu entry got left out. I introduced this here..." https://bkhome.org/news/202209/fix-broken-video-entry-in-limine-menu.htmlSep 27 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Fix broken video entry in Limine menuSep 27 21:16
DaemonFCThen when the town "accepted" that, he admitted what he was up to the whole time and how stupid they were for going along with it.Sep 27 21:16
DaemonFCThen he had a sex change operation to become a woman, then decided he changed his mind, and had a genetically engineered penis made, and now he's Mr. Garrison again.Sep 27 21:16
DaemonFCObviously, mjg59_ isn't all of that, but he uses his situation to his advantage, I think.Sep 27 21:17
DaemonFCTo make it hard to criticize or take employment action against him,.Sep 27 21:17
DaemonFCPersecuted minority, this and that, and which is really the reason people don't like minorities.Sep 27 21:17
DaemonFCBecause a couple bad apples try to get all sorts of things from it because they can.Sep 27 21:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Sep 27 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosSep 27 21:18
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DaemonFCAnd now that even most conservatives don't give a shit one way or the other about gay people, it's become more normalized, and these people have to resort to becoming something else to stay ahead of the curve.Sep 27 21:18
DaemonFCI was fired for being gay before, but I couldn't really do much about it. Sep 27 21:19
DaemonFCIt was a Christian church that I worked for, briefly, and they found out about it because someone posted pictures of me at a bar, a gay bar, on Myspace.Sep 27 21:19
DaemonFCAnd then someone else who worked there found the pictures and outed me to the management.Sep 27 21:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 21:20
DaemonFCSo that was an early example of how oversharing on "facebook" can blow up.Sep 27 21:20
DaemonFCThis was before facebook, but same problem.Sep 27 21:20
DaemonFCIf anything, worse now.Sep 27 21:20
techrights-news"after i returned from my 2 months parental leave i found a great email in my inbox. one from the weekly capitalism update made by a joint delegation of company leaders and hr." gemini://the.antipod.de/log/2022-09-27_disclaimer.gmiSep 27 21:21
DaemonFCTwo reasons I couldn't do anything about it. 1. "Sex" discrimination didn't cover gay people in employment back then. That's a recent court decision. 2. If a church does anything, it's "religious freedom" and people just back away and nod.Sep 27 21:21
DaemonFCIt's better to just accept that you were wronged and move on. What can you do about it? Nothing.Sep 27 21:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LXD 5.6 has been released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/LXD_5_6_has_been_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/LXD_5_6_has_been_released.gmi ∎Sep 27 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — LXD 5.6 has been releasedSep 27 21:22
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schestowitz[TR]<DaemonFC> So that was an early example of how oversharing on "facebook" can blow up.Sep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]don't say FBSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]say social control mediaSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]all of itSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]even if decentralisedSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]or openSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]or freeSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]or federatedSep 27 21:27
schestowitz[TR]etc etcSep 27 21:27
cubexyzdoes that include IRC? :)Sep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]you could dig up a ton of hypocrisy dirt on your targets this waySep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]corporations and governments do itSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]HR does itSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]cubexyz: to a lesser degreeSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]FB has real name policySep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]and inteerfaces for governmentsSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]it is centralisedSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]it sells dataSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]it spies on people using "phones" ande coolkiesSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]lots of differencesSep 27 21:28
schestowitz[TR]most oirc netyworks are not loggedSep 27 21:29
schestowitz[TR]and if people direct message here, nobody willl ever see itSep 27 21:29
cubexyzIRC logs may become historically interestingSep 27 21:30
schestowitz[TR]yes, ours are completeSep 27 21:30
schestowitz[TR]15 years in a few  monthsSep 27 21:31
cubexyzit feels longer than thatSep 27 21:31
cubexyzI definitely remember IRC in the 1990sSep 27 21:31
cubexyzI guess the boycott novell started in 2007?Sep 27 21:32
schestowitz[TR]2006Sep 27 21:32
schestowitz[TR]but irc in early 2008Sep 27 21:32
schestowitz[TR]using freenodeSep 27 21:33
schestowitz[TR]you could even study who first joined which year/monthSep 27 21:33
techrights-newsMore "hype" and hot air https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/26/hugging-face-and-servicenow-launch-bigcode-a-project-to-open-source-code-generating-ai-systems/Sep 27 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hugging Face and ServiceNow launch BigCode, a project to open source code-generating AI systems • TechCrunchSep 27 21:35
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Servers/Containers: Clown Computing, Container OS, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Servers_Containers_Clown_Computing_Container_OS_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Servers_Containers_Clown_Computing_Container_OS_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 27 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Servers/Containers: Clown Computing, Container OS, and MoreSep 27 21:35
techrights-newsGentoo-Sources: Experimental - ACPI: processor idle: Practically limit 'Dummy wait' workaround to old Intel systems - Mike Pagano’s Weblog ⚓ https://www.mpagano.com/blog/?p=312 ䷉ ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.mpagano.com/blog/?p=312Sep 27 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mpagano.com | Gentoo-Sources: Experimental – ACPI: processor idle: Practically limit “Dummy wait” workaround to old Intel systems – Mike Pagano's WeblogSep 27 21:37
techrights-newsPhoronix does a lot of promotional ads today while raising corporate money http://techrights.org/2022/09/27/phoronix-promotional-ads/Sep 27 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Balanced Coverage in Phoronix Today | TechrightsSep 27 21:39
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): x86 Defects Inside Linux, Intel 'Bribes' Torvalds With New (and Made Up) "Innovation Award" ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/x86_Defects_Inside_Linux_Intel_Bribes_Torvalds_With_New_and_Mad.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/x86_Defects_Inside_Linux_Intel_Bribes_Torvalds_With_New_and_Mad.gmi ∎Sep 27 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — x86 Defects Inside Linux, Intel 'Bribes' Torvalds With New (and Made Up) "Innovation Award"Sep 27 21:39
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schestowitz[TR]torvalds: better bribed than cancelledSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]by peopl,e who have very non-conventional love livesSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]and try to drag him down tooSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]using the "sexism" cardSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]while they share beds, not rooms but bed, with people they hardly knowSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]intel has a new awardSep 27 21:52
schestowitz[TR]"new"Sep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]they made it upSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]and hope to stroke Torvalds' egoSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]so maybe he'll make some faint praise of a product of theirsSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]OSL was a founding member of OSDLSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]which was later abandonedSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]*Intel wasSep 27 21:53
schestowitz[TR]and OSUSep 27 21:53
psydruidbetter cancelled than bribedSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]btwSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]re conferencwesSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]I always had my own roomSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]the one time I had to share one was in wahingtonSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]I did not share a BEDSep 27 21:55
psydruidbut he doesn't have the guts to start something new at his ageSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]just a roomSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]it wasSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]a colleagueSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]a straight manSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]a sane personSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]not a messed up mindSep 27 21:55
schestowitz[TR]he was a phd alsoSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]we're meant to think sharing a bed with strangers is a good ideaSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]it never isSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]esp. if there is booze and drugs at eventsSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]that event was IEEE btwSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]on medical imagingSep 27 21:56
schestowitz[TR]psydruid: torevalds is not oldSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]he only looks oldSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]he's about 51 or 52Sep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]he can start another mini projectSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]like alan cox didSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]after his partner had died iircSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]he received fsf awardSep 27 21:57
psydruidI know he's just a decade or so older than we areSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]yeah, but aged poorly in recent yearsSep 27 21:57
schestowitz[TR]like he went on  a potato chips dietSep 27 21:58
psydruidbut I think he's too comfortable with his current lifeSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]he looks like the younger brother of his deadSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]his dad is almost 80Sep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]*dadSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]not deadSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]his dad is still very activeSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]as MEPSep 27 21:58
schestowitz[TR]uploads videos every few daysSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]hardly anyone watches thsese thoughSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]but unlike spamnil he doesn't summon clickfraud botsSep 27 21:59
psydruidI don't understand FinnishSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]he speaks in englishSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]as MEPSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]they speak English thereSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/channel/UCT_JXe1Xb5JNZqLNfOi3gsgSep 27 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MEP Nils Torvalds - InvidiousSep 27 21:59
schestowitz[TR]only 54 subscribersSep 27 22:00
schestowitz[TR]what ashameSep 27 22:00
schestowitz[TR]latest https://yewtu.be/watch?v=py9gDkjiDBISep 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Plenary session: Renewable energy directive - InvidiousSep 27 22:00
schestowitz[TR]his poliocies are goodSep 27 22:00
schestowitz[TR]lots about the planet's futureSep 27 22:01
schestowitz[TR]food safety, speech, privacy..Sep 27 22:01
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/0rkvwy9.jpegSep 27 22:01
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eeZIlQ-xLWASep 27 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Skarvens påverkan på fisket - InvidiousSep 27 22:01
schestowitz[TR]in finnishSep 27 22:01
psydruidSwedish actually this oneSep 27 22:02
schestowitz[TR]ahSep 27 22:02
schestowitz[TR]he is swedish originallySep 27 22:02
schestowitz[TR]migrated to finlandSep 27 22:02
DaemonFCI just beat Sonic 1 with all the Chaos Emeralds. Not as difficult as I remember from when I was a kid. Although the final boss battle was pretty dumb.Sep 27 22:02
DaemonFCThought so then too.Sep 27 22:02
psydruidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl60wNBYXc4Sep 27 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=Vl60wNBYXc4Sep 27 22:02
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psydruidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl60wNBYXc4Sep 27 22:03
psydruidthis one was in FinnishSep 27 22:03
DaemonFCThe games for the Genesis were better play tested than the ones now. Not much to test though.Sep 27 22:05
techrights-newsMicrobell: I wrote this article to tell you an article is coming. In the meantime, enjoy these marketing BROCHURES https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Core-13th-Gen-Raptor-LakeSep 27 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Announces 13th Gen "Raptor Lake" - Linux Benchmarks To Come - PhoronixSep 27 22:05
DaemonFCYou had some people spend a week on it seeing if anything glitched out unacceptably or if the player could end up somewhere he wasn't supposed to on the level and you were essentially done.Sep 27 22:05
schestowitz[TR]ffs, it's getting coldSep 27 22:09
schestowitz[TR]and it's only sept.Sep 27 22:09
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schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5Gx9_9vmwAASep 27 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Watch: Nord Stream Pipeline Leaks Gas Bubbles in Baltic Sea - InvidiousSep 27 22:10
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pP7AMc0oCpY&listen=falseSep 27 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Europe investigates unexplained leaks in Nord stream pipelines | Latest English News | WION - InvidiousSep 27 22:11
XRevan86schestowitz: techpol content?Sep 27 22:11
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8KoGNEXztuoSep 27 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Aerial footage of leak in Danish waters from Nord Stream 1 pipeline - InvidiousSep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]i guessSep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]assuming it's vandalismSep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]I saw it mentioned thereSep 27 22:12
XRevan86"Vandalism" wouldn't be the right word on this scale, "sabotage".Sep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]german TV nhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=KQSQp1y_4qkSep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KQSQp1y_4qkSep 27 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Krieg in der Ukraine: Pseudoreferenden vor Abschluss, Gaslecks and beiden Nord Stream Pipelines - InvidiousSep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]i guess frog just quotes "Russian media"Sep 27 22:12
schestowitz[TR]which probably blames europe for attacking its own energy sourceSep 27 22:13
XRevan86schestowitz: I can't tell, I only understood 10% of what he said.Sep 27 22:13
schestowitz[TR]yeds, but off topicSep 27 22:13
schestowitz[TR]i'll do exercise to warm upSep 27 22:13
schestowitz[TR]hopefully no rolling blackouts this winterSep 27 22:13
XRevan86schestowitz: It was known in advance that NS-1 and NS-2 won't be coming back up ever again.Sep 27 22:14
XRevan86So this doesn't change that much regarding the gas crisis in Europe.Sep 27 22:14
XRevan86But the prices still somewhat hiked. Because the glimpse of hope was shut? I can't tell.Sep 27 22:15
schestowitz[TR]https://yewtu.be/search?q=nordstream&page=1&date=today&type=all&duration=none&sort=relevanceSep 27 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | nordstream - InvidiousSep 27 22:15
schestowitz[TR]glimmer?Sep 27 22:15
XRevan86schestowitz: Yea.Sep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]:(Sep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]this winter will suckSep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]maybe time to buy upsSep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]because the prices of those too soarsSep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]*soarSep 27 22:16
schestowitz[TR]"but snowden!!"Sep 27 22:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, 0 A.D. Alpha 26 Released, Kena Bridge of Spirits ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Games_Steam_Deck_0_A_D_Alpha_26_Released_Kena_Bridge_of_Spirits.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Games_Steam_Deck_0_A_D_Alpha_26_Released_Kena_Bridge_of_Spirits.gmi ∎Sep 27 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: Steam Deck, 0 A.D. Alpha 26 Released, Kena Bridge of SpiritsSep 27 22:18
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe time to buy ups <- noSep 27 22:18
highest_cubist_thrillstime to buy ups was freakin years agoSep 27 22:18
highest_cubist_thrillsbut better late than neverSep 27 22:18
schestowitz-TRyears agoSep 27 22:19
schestowitz-TRno warSep 27 22:19
XRevan86schestowitz: I personally don't believe that the situation will get critical in winter.Sep 27 22:19
schestowitz-TRno outagesSep 27 22:19
schestowitz-TRmaybe next thing is buying a generatorSep 27 22:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiSep 27 22:20
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: for many here it is critical alreadySep 27 22:20
schestowitz-TRthey are brokeSep 27 22:20
schestowitz-TRso broke our regime gives 250 pounds to each households to help with heating billsSep 27 22:21
schestowitz-TRme? i just do exercise and clothe betterSep 27 22:21
XRevan86schestowitz: We will see an increase of the price, that's a given.Sep 27 22:21
schestowitz-TRmaybe outages tooSep 27 22:22
XRevan86It's hard to look for data on for how much as it'll vary depending on the place.Sep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRlack of capacitySep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRat peak timesSep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRsome people will pay the premiumSep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRbut that won't magically make more energy avAILABLESep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRswitzerland warms about rolling blackoutsSep 27 22:22
schestowitz-TRpeople there are not poorSep 27 22:22
XRevan86schestowitz: Switzerland doesn't even use gas for electricity generation.Sep 27 22:24
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_SwitzerlandSep 27 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Electricity sector in Switzerland - WikipediaSep 27 22:25
cubexyzdoesn't switzerland use nuclear power?Sep 27 22:25
XRevan86Hydroelectricity + NPPSep 27 22:25
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Star Labs Shares More Details on Its Upcoming StarFighter 4K Linux Laptop ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Star_Labs_Shares_More_Details_on_Its_Upcoming_StarFighter_4K_Li.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Star_Labs_Shares_More_Details_on_Its_Upcoming_StarFighter_4K_Li.gmi ∎Sep 27 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Star Labs Shares More Details on Its Upcoming StarFighter 4K Linux LaptopSep 27 22:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 27 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security LeftoversSep 27 22:26
schestowitz[TR]putin to switerland: y, I herd u like referendumsSep 27 22:27
AdmFubarhttps://www.project-disco.org/competition/092622-declining-retail-shrink-makes-shoplifting-crisis-narrative-a-hard-sell/Sep 27 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.project-disco.org | Declining Retail Shrink Makes Shoplifting “Crisis” Narrative a Hard Sell - Disruptive Competition ProjectSep 27 22:28
schestowitz[TR]:-) Sep 27 22:28
schestowitz[TR]saw it earlier noticed this partSep 27 22:28
schestowitz[TR]<techrights-news> "In a curious coincidence, many of the retail spokespersons pushing the disproven narrative of a significant uptick in shoplifting were from groups pushing for legislative proposals that would burden digital commerce" https://www.project-disco.org/competition/092622-declining-retail-shrink-makes-shoplifting-crisis-narrative-a-hard-sell/Sep 27 22:29
schestowitz[TR]always blame the victimSep 27 22:29
XRevan86schestowitz: Time to conduct a referendum on annexation of Switzerland into Russia, for technical reasons the population that will decide the fate of Switzerland is going to be the Swiss that live on the territory of Russia.Sep 27 22:30
schestowitz[TR]oblastSep 27 22:30
XRevan86All 676 of them.Sep 27 22:30
schestowitz[TR]operation Z-uirichSep 27 22:31
MinceRlolSep 27 22:31
XRevan86schestowitz: Swiss People's RepublicSep 27 22:32
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schestowitz[TR]Swiss people are heavily armedSep 27 22:40
schestowitz[TR]putin will come to 'denazify' swiss banksSep 27 22:40
techrights-news"A lot of privacy concerned internet users are concerned about Chrome's new Manifest v3 which in part aims to end the usefulness of content/ad blockers but Mozilla & Firefox has a slightly different plan" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uh5Bhw-wyZcSep 27 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Chrome Is Killing AdBlockers & Firefox Will Save Them - InvidiousSep 27 22:42
techrights-newsHostile of "on libera.chat" https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20221028-irc https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20221021-ircSep 27 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, October 28, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareSep 27 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, October 21, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareSep 27 22:44
techrights-newsFSF chat outsourced to FSF-hostile people https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20221014-irc https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20221007-ircSep 27 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, October 14, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareSep 27 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, October 7, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareSep 27 22:44
techrights-newsBellSoft Optimizes Java for Cloud-Native Platform - Container Journal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/BellSoft_introduces_Alpaquita_Cloud_Native_Platform_and_Alpaqui.shtmlSep 27 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — BellSoft introduces Alpaquita Cloud Native Platform and Alpaquita Linux (UPDATED)Sep 27 22:47
MinceRhttps://www.darthsanddroids.net/solo/solo217.htmlSep 27 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & DroidsSep 27 22:47
techrights-news"The Northcape event has been held for several years, and while it always ends on the North Cape, the route there varies. Last years’ route went through the Baltics, but this years’ was perhaps as direct as possible - taking us through Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Germany, the Czech republic, Germany again, Sweden, Finland and finally Norway." https://www.jelmer.uk/northcape4000.htmlSep 27 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jelmer.uk | Northcape 4000Sep 27 22:48
schestowitz"Sep 27 22:49
schestowitzAs of April 2021, I work as Principal Site Reliability Engineer at Cognite.Sep 27 22:49
schestowitzBetween February 2013 and March 2021, I worked as a Senior Site Reliability Engineer at Google in London, mainly on the authoritative DNS servers and other kinds of frontend infrastructure.Sep 27 22:49
schestowitzBetween 2009 and 2012 I worked at Canonical Ltd., on Launchpad, Ubuntu, Bazaar and various cloud-related projects.Sep 27 22:49
schestowitz"Sep 27 22:49
schestowitzhttps://www.jelmer.uk//pages/about.htmlSep 27 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jelmer.uk | About - Jelmer VernooijSep 27 22:49
MinceRthis is spiijal tap!Sep 27 22:49
AdmFubarhttps://www.icij.org/investigations/uber-files/how-we-unearthed-ubers-controversial-playbook-from-a-cache-of-employee-communications/Sep 27 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.icij.org | How we unearthed Uber’s controversial playbook from a cache of employee communications  - ICIJSep 27 22:51
techrights-newsnew recruits at Collabora. Went through the list, seems decent. https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/a-team-that-grows-together-builds-together.htmlSep 27 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | A team that grows together, builds togetherSep 27 22:51
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Forcing People to Watch Ads, DataGrip on Linux Mint 21, and Archcraft 2022.09.16 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Videos_Forcing_People_to_Watch_Ads_DataGrip_on_Linux_Mint_21_an.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Videos_Forcing_People_to_Watch_Ads_DataGrip_on_Linux_Mint_21_an.gmi ∎Sep 27 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: Forcing People to Watch Ads, DataGrip on Linux Mint 21, and Archcraft 2022.09.16Sep 27 22:57
DaemonFCWebkitGTK 2.38 seems to work fine.Sep 27 22:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▅▂▃▂▇▅▅▆▁▃▄▂▃▁▂▁▁▁▅▆▂▅▁▂▄▅▅▃▅▅▅▆▂▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 39.68 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▆▁▁▂▁▂█▃█▁██▇█▁▃▄█▇█▁▁▂▁▁██▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 65.40▕ swarm size (avg): 127.01  ⟲Sep 27 22:59
DaemonFCThey really ironed out a lot of those pesky compositing and Content Blocker bugs, it seems.Sep 27 22:59
DaemonFCMaybe from something Apple did. Who knows?Sep 27 22:59
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], I'm thinking about forking a WebExtension when the time is right.Sep 27 23:00
DaemonFCTurning GNOME Web into a Gemini browser by "faking it".Sep 27 23:00
DaemonFCHandling the protocol by routing it through mozz.us or something.Sep 27 23:01
DaemonFCActual support would be something I can't really do, but taking an existing extension that proxies Gopher through Floodgap seems possible.Sep 27 23:01
DaemonFChttps://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F09%252F27%252Fbusiness%252Feconomy%252Flandlords-rent-inflation.htmlSep 27 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portal.mozz.us | Gemini PortalSep 27 23:03
DaemonFCWon't someone please think of the slumlords? -The New York TimesSep 27 23:03
DaemonFCJesus, what a rag.Sep 27 23:03
DaemonFCNot that most of them aren't.Sep 27 23:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Mike Blumenkrantz: Preparation ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Mike_Blumenkrantz_PreparationMike_Blumenkrantz_Preparation.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/27/Mike_Blumenkrantz_PreparationMike_Blumenkrantz_Preparation.gmi ∎Sep 27 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Mike Blumenkrantz: PreparationSep 27 23:04
DaemonFCBut this one actually wants you to pay to read it.Sep 27 23:04
DaemonFCThis just sounds like CNN with extra steps.Sep 27 23:04
DaemonFC"Publicly traded owners of sprawling real estate portfolios, like Invitation Homes, have enjoyed some of their best returns over the past few quarters."Sep 27 23:04
schestowitz[TR]there is a firefox extensionSep 27 23:04
schestowitz[TR]it redirects gemini urls to mozz iirsSep 27 23:04
schestowitz[TR]but that's not the same thingSep 27 23:05
DaemonFCInvitation Homes is a notorious Wall Street slumlord that's been buying up houses, not fixing anything, and renting them to people who can't get a mortgage. They're a parasite.Sep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]you could extend that to make every http/s address geminiSep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]and then redirect itSep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]so if I ask for https://nytimes/crapSep 27 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: nytimes; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nytimes/crap )Sep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]it'll go to gemini... newswallfile...web addressSep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]and in turn redirect to moz with the firefox extensionSep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]mozzSep 27 23:05
DaemonFCYeah, I'm afraid that's going to have to be good enough for "Web" browsers.Sep 27 23:05
schestowitz[TR]but why?Sep 27 23:06
DaemonFCMozilla is certainly not going to welcome patches that implement it because GULAG doesn't control it and neither does Hollywood or Microsoft.Sep 27 23:06
schestowitz[TR]just use a gemini clientSep 27 23:06
schestowitz[TR]I can give you code I wroteSep 27 23:06
schestowitz[TR]you click a special mouse buttonSep 27 23:06
schestowitz[TR]and it gives you the canonical gemini addressSep 27 23:06
schestowitz[TR]acidus had a gemi  proxy for youtube tooSep 27 23:07
schestowitz[TR]last I checked you could no longer download videos from itSep 27 23:07
DaemonFC"Earlier this year, Mr. Verma experimented with raising rents enough to cover the cost of spiking wages, property taxes, insurance and maintenance. Turnover doubled in the properties where he tried it, as people left for nearby buildings.Sep 27 23:07
DaemonFC“It’s crushing our margins,” Mr. Verma said. “Our profits from last year have evaporated, and we’re running at break-even at a number of properties. There’s some people who think landlords must be making money. No. We’ve only gone up 12 to 14 percent, and our expenses have gone up 30 percent.”Sep 27 23:07
schestowitz[TR]"our margins"Sep 27 23:07
DaemonFCYes, but when you charge 10 times what your "expenses" are and then your expenses go up 30%, and you raise rent "12-14%" you just have a hell of a lot of money. Slightly less of a hell of a lot of money.Sep 27 23:08
DaemonFCWhat a bunch of bastards.Sep 27 23:08
schestowitz[TR]"sell the fucking houses motherfucker!"Sep 27 23:08
schestowitz[TR]"how many house u got anyays, man!!"Sep 27 23:08
DaemonFCThe only thing that our landlord does is raise the rent and occasionally unclog a drain or replace a toilet flapper.Sep 27 23:08
DaemonFCOther than insurance, the property taxes, and that, what is he paying for?Sep 27 23:08
schestowitz[TR]"expenses" = making the houses worth moreSep 27 23:08
DaemonFCReplacing some cheapass carpet between tenants?Sep 27 23:09
DaemonFCA bucket of white paint?Sep 27 23:09
schestowitz[TR]so they can sell the "assets" or "property" at a higher priceSep 27 23:09
DaemonFCThose "expenses" are docked from the deposit you gave them.Sep 27 23:09
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 27 23:09
DaemonFCThey find ways to keep docking it until it doesn't exist anymore, so if you move a lot you lose $1,000 a year or more on deposits alone.Sep 27 23:09
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: hours old:Sep 27 23:10
schestowitz[TR]<li><h5><a href="gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1139">New Apartment Woes</a></h5>Sep 27 23:10
schestowitz[TR]<blockquote><p>Hi folks, been a while -- was coordinating The Grand Migration of one apartment to another.Sep 27 23:10
schestowitz[TR][...]Sep 27 23:10
schestowitz[TR]Read the damn contract. If you moved in and no one painted the apartment for you, then you don't need to paint it on the way out.Sep 27 23:10
schestowitz[TR]</p></blockquote></li>Sep 27 23:10
DaemonFCThe paint over our shower is gone.Sep 27 23:10
DaemonFCFrom cleaning the mold off of it.Sep 27 23:10
DaemonFCHe didn't bother to paint the bathroom in moisture resistant paint, which they do make.Sep 27 23:11
DaemonFCEvery lease he draws up says that he takes no responsibility for molds, mildews, and fungus.Sep 27 23:12
DaemonFCAnd it's in bold lettering.Sep 27 23:12
DaemonFCYou just have to keep fighting it back with chemicals.Sep 27 23:12
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Thank god I was able to finally turn off the dehumidifier and air conditioning and open the windows.Sep 27 23:13
DaemonFCOur electric dropped from between 35 and 40 kilowatt hours per day to like 5-8.Sep 27 23:13
DaemonFC"Overall, the ferocious run-up in rents has been driven by tenants’ desire for more space and location flexibility created by remote work; rising interest rates that have locked would-be buyers out of the for-sale market; and cost increases on delayed maintenance. But the one factor landlords track most closely is their customers’ ability to absorb higher rents."Sep 27 23:14
DaemonFCYes, he didn't ask what our current income is and I'm not going to just volunteer it.Sep 27 23:14
DaemonFCHe probably got us for what he figured he could based on the information he has.Sep 27 23:15
DaemonFCWhich is out of date, but who's going to admit that?Sep 27 23:15
DaemonFC"Oh, we make a lot more now. Hit us again, and put some STANK on it!"Sep 27 23:15
DaemonFCI might have stolen part of that frim Jim Carey in Liar Liar.Sep 27 23:16
DaemonFC"Where would Tina Turner be today, if she just rolled over and said 'Hit me again, Ike! And put some stank on it!"?Sep 27 23:16
DaemonFC"Rollin' down the river. That's where!"Sep 27 23:16
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], The mjg59_'s crybaby idiots would NEVER allow jokes like that in a movie script now.Sep 27 23:17
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DaemonFCNobody thought wife beating was okay then. There were domestic felony laws. Men went to prison.Sep 27 23:18
DaemonFCBut you could joke about it. It didn't mean you thought people should beat their wife and go unpunished.Sep 27 23:18
DaemonFCThe whole "Throw the lousy bum in prison and let's get on with it!".Sep 27 23:19
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DaemonFCThe reason why so many wife beaters get away with it is twofold. Either the woman doesn't say anything because she has no income and no employment skills that would realistically let her out of the abusive marriage or she does go to the police and they threaten her. When my mom was beaten by Brian (Gonad), she went to the police department in Huntington, Indiana, and they told her if she tried to report it again, they'd find something to put Sep 27 23:21
DaemonFCher in jail for because she was bothering them.Sep 27 23:21
DaemonFCmjg59_, How do you feel about that?Sep 27 23:21
DaemonFCThen she doesn't believe me when I tell her the police falsely accused me, made up charges, and lied and said I made incriminating statements.Sep 27 23:22
DaemonFCAfter telling me that they threatened an abused battered woman who was asking them for help, who had been beaten black and blue and was standing right there in front of them.Sep 27 23:23
DaemonFCThis is one reason why I support open carry and repealing the Illinois FOID Act.Sep 27 23:24
DaemonFCWomen should get a gun and learn how to use it.Sep 27 23:24
DaemonFCAnd if anyone in Chicago tries to rape them, they should blow the fucker's dick off with it.Sep 27 23:24
DaemonFCAnd everyone should laugh at this stupid asshole who tried to rape a woman and got his dick blown off.Sep 27 23:24
schestowitz[TR]https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/ederson-my-first-season-63799865Sep 27 23:31
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DaemonFCWhy are people afraid of the police? The police are as dangerous to the victims as they are to anyone else when they finally arrive on the scene.Sep 27 23:32
DaemonFCLikeSep 27 23:32
DaemonFCyou know, nobody believes you.Sep 27 23:32
DaemonFCIt's terrible.Sep 27 23:32
DaemonFCNobody believes you unless they went through it as well.Sep 27 23:33
DaemonFCAnd then nobody believes them because the system ruined their credibility like it did yours.Sep 27 23:33
schestowitz[TR]off topic anyhoo..Sep 27 23:33
DaemonFCFacebook undermines your right to remain silent.Sep 27 23:34
DaemonFCBecause the government can go in there and dig up all of your posts and bring them to court.Sep 27 23:34
schestowitz[TR]ok, but you did not talk about FBSep 27 23:34
schestowitz[TR]you talked about "blowing dicks"Sep 27 23:34
schestowitz[TR]that's neither on topic nor relevantSep 27 23:35
schestowitz[TR]just off-puttinghSep 27 23:35
highest_cubist_thrillsyou talked about "blowing dicks" <- tbf thats the state of free software now anywaySep 27 23:35
highest_cubist_thrills/me was told to suck a dick the other daySep 27 23:35
highest_cubist_thrillsit wasnt very specific, if i get to choose thats not too badSep 27 23:35
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean in hereSep 27 23:35
DaemonFChttps://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F09%252F27%252Fbusiness%252Fbiden-student-debt-suit.htmlSep 27 23:36
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highest_cubist_thrillsso yeah it comes up often enoughSep 27 23:36
techrights-newsWebspam. Promotional spam disguised as 'articles'. The WWW became a heap of trash. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/immotor-portable-power-station/Sep 27 23:36
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highest_cubist_thrillspun not intendedSep 27 23:36
DaemonFCAn Indiana attorney who is pursuing student loan forgiveness is suing to stop student loan forgiveness.Sep 27 23:36
DaemonFCHis lawsuit has a lot of problems.Sep 27 23:37
techrights-newsLike Microsoft, Oracle relies on crime to do "business" https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/oracle-fined-us$23m-for-violations-of-foreign-corrupt-practices-act.html http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/Sep 27 23:38
DaemonFCIt makes non-factual statements about the program. He may not have standing to sue. Most of the judges on that court were appointed by Bill Clinton.Sep 27 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Oracle fined US$23m for violations of Foreign Corrupt Practices ActSep 27 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | TechrightsSep 27 23:38
psydruidhttps://www.theverge.com/23373371/arm-chips-chip-shortage-ceo-rene-haas-tech-intel-apple-decoderSep 27 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How Arm conquered the chip market and survived the chip shortage, with CEO Rene Haas - The VergeSep 27 23:38
techrights-news"Khronos Group Welcomes Vastai Technologies as Contributor Membe"Sep 27 23:39
DaemonFCAt the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals his odds are better, but Biden has been installing judges there. If he steps it up, we could have two more Biden judges on that appeals court before it hears an appeal on this.Sep 27 23:39
psydruidno mention of GNU/Linux or maybe one occurrence of LinuxSep 27 23:39
DaemonFCThey probably kick it out to a three judge panel and then you just get the judges you get.Sep 27 23:39
highest_cubist_thrillslinucksSep 27 23:39
starstreaklinucks!Sep 27 23:41
highest_cubist_thrillsor as ive taken to calling it lately gnu+penguinshitSep 27 23:41
starstreakwhy not GNU slash penguinshitSep 27 23:42
highest_cubist_thrillsno fucking ideaSep 27 23:42
highest_cubist_thrillsthere are many mysteries of stallman i have sought to understand, and did not come up wantingSep 27 23:42
highest_cubist_thrillsbut two things the wisdom of which are beyond my kenSep 27 23:43
highest_cubist_thrillsare why he went from / to +Sep 27 23:43
highest_cubist_thrillswhen the TRUTH is gnu was DIVIDED by linux, NOT added to by itSep 27 23:43
highest_cubist_thrillsor what his fucking beef with "content" isSep 27 23:43
highest_cubist_thrillsroy has tried to explainSep 27 23:43
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its roySep 27 23:43
schestowitz-TR27th ends here in 17 minsSep 27 23:44
schestowitz-TRend of gnu at 39Sep 27 23:44
highest_cubist_thrillsof course i think hes wiser than nearly one else in the field he more or less createdSep 27 23:44
DaemonFCThey got to this point because HURD was an unworkable kernel design from someone who was obviously insane.Sep 27 23:44
highest_cubist_thrills(which is a shame, as he is most likely mortal)Sep 27 23:44
DaemonFCAnd they could have adopted a BSD kernel instead.Sep 27 23:44
schestowitz-TRnot gplSep 27 23:44
DaemonFCSo?Sep 27 23:44
schestowitz-TRalso remember timeSep 27 23:44
schestowitz-TR1980sSep 27 23:44
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i may never know why + midstreamSep 27 23:45
schestowitz-TRbsd was not out there yetSep 27 23:45
highest_cubist_thrillsor why content is such a terrible wordSep 27 23:45
DaemonFCYou can wrap BSD software in the GPL.Sep 27 23:45
highest_cubist_thrillsbsd was not out there yet <- you should write a bookSep 27 23:45
DaemonFCSame way proprietary licenses can wrap BSD.Sep 27 23:45
highest_cubist_thrillscalled "things about bsd im wrong about"Sep 27 23:45
highest_cubist_thrillsyouve got a great startSep 27 23:45
starstreaklolSep 27 23:45
DaemonFCThe BSD kernels were out around the same time Linux was.Sep 27 23:45
highest_cubist_thrillslike "a kernel is a license" Sep 27 23:46
highest_cubist_thrillsit isntSep 27 23:46
schestowitz"March 9, 1978; 44 years ago"Sep 27 23:46
schestowitzoh, right..Sep 27 23:46
schestowitz5 years before gnuSep 27 23:46
highest_cubist_thrillsand bsd was treading water when linucks came into the pictureSep 27 23:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its a damned shame the fsf was likeSep 27 23:47
highest_cubist_thrills"oh sorry, ill call someone. bye."Sep 27 23:47
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highest_cubist_thrillsi mean maybe thats not accurate. be nice if they helped.Sep 27 23:47
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highest_cubist_thrillsgnu tried to avoid linux as long as it couldSep 27 23:47
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highest_cubist_thrillsin hindsight it should have kept tryingSep 27 23:47
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highest_cubist_thrillscounterrevolution os more likeSep 27 23:48
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DaemonFCThe problem with BSD, legally, was that there was the lawsuit regarding it.Sep 27 23:48
DaemonFCAnd Linux people used the lawsuit as FUD.Sep 27 23:48
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont think linus ever intended it that waySep 27 23:48
DaemonFCLike, hey nobody's suing us!Sep 27 23:48
highest_cubist_thrillsbut he was groomed to be a corporate shillSep 27 23:48
DaemonFCAnd then SCO happened a decade later.Sep 27 23:48
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highest_cubist_thrillsnot as bad as the others-- the others are worseSep 27 23:48
highest_cubist_thrillsexcept tsoSep 27 23:48
DaemonFCSCO was actually a much worse lawsuit than USL's against BSD's was.Sep 27 23:49
highest_cubist_thrillssorry i mean theodore "rape apologist" tsoSep 27 23:49
highest_cubist_thrillsits theo isnt it?Sep 27 23:49
starstreakRevolution OS: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jw8K460vx1cSep 27 23:49
highest_cubist_thrillstso had too much attack surfaceSep 27 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Revolution OS - InvidiousSep 27 23:49
DaemonFCThe USL BSD lawsuit was settled quickly and I think they just said that they had no objections to it as long as they removed two files.Sep 27 23:49
starstreak"I'm your worst nightmare" -ESRSep 27 23:49
DaemonFCSo they did, and that was the end of that.Sep 27 23:49
schestowitz-TRtso criticised the attack on iraqSep 27 23:49
highest_cubist_thrillshes *a* worst nightmare at leastSep 27 23:49
starstreakoh shit, attack surfaceSep 27 23:49
schestowitz-TRthat must be a coc violation or somethingSep 27 23:49
DaemonFCmjg59_ hasn't stated a position on the Iraq War.Sep 27 23:50
DaemonFCI wonder why.Sep 27 23:50
schestowitz-TR "I'm your worst nightmare btw"Sep 27 23:50
highest_cubist_thrillsyou talked about "blowing dicks" <- he should have said sucking cocsSep 27 23:50
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause cocs definitely suckSep 27 23:50
schestowitz-TRhe did not even rub two thighsSep 27 23:50
DaemonFCHe's for all the crimes the government wants to commit because they'll stop paying him if he's not.Sep 27 23:50
highest_cubist_thrillsibm are cocmastersSep 27 23:50
highest_cubist_thrillssorry, cocmainsSep 27 23:50
schestowitz-TRcomcastersSep 27 23:51
DaemonFCmjg59_ is on the Dark Side because they pay better over there.Sep 27 23:51
highest_cubist_thrills he did not even rub two thighs <- when ballmer goes to kfc, they know just what he likesSep 27 23:51
schestowitz-TR"^ thighs please"Sep 27 23:51
highest_cubist_thrills/me went to kfc in the ukSep 27 23:51
schestowitz-TR"sixpack on the grill"Sep 27 23:51
highest_cubist_thrillsno surprise, the chips are better thereSep 27 23:52
highest_cubist_thrillsthey have to be, or who would buy themSep 27 23:52
DaemonFCGive me a bucket of BIGBOOBIES. -Microsoft people at KFCSep 27 23:52
highest_cubist_thrillsits not that americans cant make proper chipsSep 27 23:52
highest_cubist_thrillsthey just dontSep 27 23:52
schestowitz-TRgive me sixpack/sexpack, or you are missing outSep 27 23:52
highest_cubist_thrillswhy do they want inferior chips? its a mysterySep 27 23:52
highest_cubist_thrillsor you are missing out <- well not anymoreSep 27 23:53
highest_cubist_thrillsif youre a free software leader going to lieplanetSep 27 23:53
highest_cubist_thrillsyoure gonna get fucked one way or anotherSep 27 23:53
DaemonFCYou know that code was written by a Boomer. Millennials only eat ass.Sep 27 23:53
schestowitz-TRfsck.ext4Sep 27 23:53
schestowitz-TRfor details, ask tsoSep 27 23:53
schestowitz-TRhe's the ext expertSep 27 23:53
schestowitz-TRbut don't fsck with himSep 27 23:53
highest_cubist_thrills/me is not in love with extSep 27 23:53
highest_cubist_thrillsmincer hasnt forgiven him for ext4Sep 27 23:54
schestowitz-TRthe early one?Sep 27 23:54
DaemonFCI moved everything to BtrFS a while back.Sep 27 23:54
starstreaki use btrfsSep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrillsidkSep 27 23:54
starstreakbtwSep 27 23:54
schestowitz-TRthat killed off small files?Sep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrills<starstreak> i use btrfs <- btwSep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrillsyou should use btwfsSep 27 23:54
DaemonFCI was using XFS before that.Sep 27 23:54
starstreaklolSep 27 23:54
schestowitz-TRlolSep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrillsif you wait, systemd will have its own filesystem tooSep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrillsmaybe itll be based on Sep 27 23:54
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd-ebcdicdSep 27 23:54
DaemonFCThe performance of Ext3 was terrible. Just terrible.Sep 27 23:54
schestowitz-TRbuttewwwww ef assSep 27 23:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthen we can talk about how much ebcdic sucksSep 27 23:55
highest_cubist_thrills :)Sep 27 23:55
MinceR28 005410 < schestowitz-TR> the early one? Sep 27 23:55
highest_cubist_thrills"kiss my ascii!"Sep 27 23:55
MinceRthe default settings were a recipe for data lossSep 27 23:55
MinceRthey kind of still areSep 27 23:55
MinceRbut at least now it's enough to set nodelallocSep 27 23:55
highest_cubist_thrills they kind of still are <- i dont miss extSep 27 23:55
starstreaki would use reiser4 but it apparently chops up pieces of your files and hides them from policeSep 27 23:55
DaemonFCXFS only had trouble deleting lots and lots of very small files. I talked to Eric Sandeen about that and asked if there was a way to batch up the file deletions and then commit everything in one go.Sep 27 23:55
MinceRXFS also had trouble keeping data across system crashesSep 27 23:55
highest_cubist_thrillsi would use reiser4 but it apparently chops up pieces of your files and hides them from police <- zingSep 27 23:55
DaemonFCHe said he'd look into that and it ended up in the driver pretty quickly.Sep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrillsi would use reiser4 but its only available in templeosSep 27 23:56
MinceRthough i've heard they implemented whatever fixing journaling needed for thatSep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean, i understand that at the time it had some cool featuresSep 27 23:56
starstreakfreebsd uses zfsSep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its not like the holy grail anymore is itSep 27 23:56
MinceRi tried btrfs when it was allegedly stable and supported and it was an unreliable messSep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrills cool featuresSep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its not like the holy grail anymore is it#techrights : 09/27/22 22:56 <starstreak>  <- frenchbsd uses "zfs" tooSep 27 23:56
MinceRafaik zfs eats memory like a fat kid eats candySep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrills"we put zos on zfs!"Sep 27 23:56
highest_cubist_thrillsthey only talk that way because they were occupied by germanySep 27 23:57
MinceRso in the end i decided to stick with ext3 on Linux for stability, then ext4 when the ext3 driver was retiredSep 27 23:57
schestowitz-TRthe zfs for linux is controlled by microsoftSep 27 23:57
MinceRand on OpenBSD, i used the default ffs/ufsSep 27 23:57
schestowitz-TRin proprietary software toolset that spies for the NSASep 27 23:57
highest_cubist_thrills so in the end i decided to stick with ext3 on Linux for stability <- i did this to avoid ubuntus suicide cocktail of ext4 and fyfsSep 27 23:57
frogext2 has benefit still: it's userspace utilities are implemented in busybox and toybox (and probably suckless.org ubase/sbase)Sep 27 23:57
highest_cubist_thrills"can i resize this so its smaller?" "no, fy!"Sep 27 23:57
starstreakOn my FreeBSD VM, i use zfs and xorg with mate and it uses 350MB ramSep 27 23:57
XRevan86DaemonFC: How old was your XFS installation?Sep 27 23:57
highest_cubist_thrillsubuntu <- i used trisquel btwSep 27 23:58
highest_cubist_thrillsand xorg with mate <- ...Sep 27 23:58
highest_cubist_thrills :)Sep 27 23:58
frogext2 is/was even available with micros~1 vista7Sep 27 23:58
highest_cubist_thrillsfreebsd with mate-- all it needs is edge (browser)Sep 27 23:58
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starstreaklol chrome based browsers don't exist on freebsdSep 27 23:59
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XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Funny joke.Sep 27 23:59
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean if i say enough ridiculous thingsSep 27 23:59
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highest_cubist_thrillsone of them is bound to be somewhat amusingSep 27 23:59

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