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psydroid | so for the GNOME lawsuit someone on this Dutch site was questioning the connection between Microsoft, Gates and Intellectual Ventures, so I linked a few Techrights articles | Sep 28 00:42 |
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psydroid | but I have had a suspicion for a long time that Microsoft employs people working at partner firms to infiltrate these sites and post their pro-Microsoft views there | Sep 28 00:43 |
psydroid | it's getting tiring at times | Sep 28 00:43 |
scientes | Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship $2,350 | Sep 28 00:46 |
XRevan86 | Nothing is free in the land of the free | Sep 28 00:59 |
cubexyz | things were quite bad back around the 2000 era OS-wise | Sep 28 01:08 |
cubexyz | winprinters, winscanners, winmodems... | Sep 28 01:08 |
cubexyz | win2k was really the last straw for me, switched to Redhat 8.0 soon afterwards | Sep 28 01:09 |
cubexyz | around 1994 I looked at various Linuxes, Minix and FreeBSD | Sep 28 01:12 |
cubexyz | even tried to sell some OS/2 :) | Sep 28 01:12 |
scientes | various linuxes? | Sep 28 01:12 |
scientes | it was only 3 years old | Sep 28 01:12 |
cubexyz | Yggdrasil, slackware and darkstar | Sep 28 01:13 |
scientes | libc5 | Sep 28 01:13 |
cubexyz | didn't stick with it though, and Minix didn't support my CDROM | Sep 28 01:16 |
scientes | i had the same sort of experience in 2003 | Sep 28 01:19 |
scientes | it was mainly video games that brought be back to windows xp | Sep 28 01:19 |
scientes | and when vista didn't support my hardware and quickly got a virus I realized that windows was history | Sep 28 01:19 |
cubexyz | some of the loki games were pretty good | Sep 28 01:19 |
cubexyz | HOMM3, still play it now and then | Sep 28 01:21 |
cubexyz | M$ won't even talk to you if you got XP | Sep 28 01:22 |
cubexyz | motherboard dies, forgot license key? too bad, buy a new license | Sep 28 01:23 |
scientes | https://washington.mid.ru/en/press-centre/news/world_at_a_crossroads_and_a_system_of_international_relations_for_the_future_by_foreign_minister_ser/ | Sep 28 01:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-washington.mid.ru | “World at a Crossroads and a System of International Relations for the Future” by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov | Sep 28 01:33 | |
scientes | Ahhhhhh | Sep 28 01:33 |
scientes | is there a good word for a demon that is just in your head | Sep 28 02:35 |
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kaniini | r_schestowitz: what is Punix | Sep 28 04:19 |
kaniini | r_schestowitz: all i see is a TI-89 graphing calculator OS | Sep 28 04:19 |
r_schestowitz | not my entry, kaniini | Sep 28 04:20 |
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DaemonFC[m] | M$ won't even talk to you if you got XP | Sep 28 04:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | I doubt they're updating their product activation for XP if they aren't doing much else with it. | Sep 28 04:51 |
r_schestowitz | XP, LOL... | Sep 28 04:51 |
r_schestowitz | who uses an OS from 2001? | Sep 28 04:52 |
r_schestowitz | GNU/Linux is free | Sep 28 04:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eh, there were instructions for how to convert "Virtual XP Mode" into something that runs in Boxes. | Sep 28 04:52 |
r_schestowitz | GNOME Boxes? | Sep 28 04:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah | Sep 28 04:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't see anything wrong with it. | Sep 28 04:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you're using it to run some old Windows software that doesn't like Wine or whatever. | Sep 28 04:56 |
r_schestowitz | right.. | Sep 28 04:56 |
r_schestowitz | but to MSFT it's about money | Sep 28 04:56 |
r_schestowitz | not about your personal needs | Sep 28 04:56 |
r_schestowitz | that's why we need to abolish Windows | Sep 28 04:57 |
r_schestowitz | let people have their PC at their service | Sep 28 04:57 |
r_schestowitz | not 'serviced' by Vista10 "Updates" you cannot refuse | Sep 28 04:57 |
r_schestowitz | they backported surveillance into these updates | Sep 28 04:57 |
r_schestowitz | Vista7+* 'telemetry' | Sep 28 04:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | I might buy a cheap refurb laptop for Mandy. | Sep 28 04:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Anything is better than that 2008 Macbook that his sister gave him. | Sep 28 04:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Prolly stick Ubuntu on it so I don't have to fuck with it all the time. | Sep 28 04:59 |
r_schestowitz | what does he use? | Sep 28 04:59 |
r_schestowitz | 2008?! | Sep 28 04:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Whatever the last Mac OS was that runs on that piece of crap. | Sep 28 05:00 |
r_schestowitz | Mine is 2009 | Sep 28 05:00 |
r_schestowitz | you can put gnu linux on that | Sep 28 05:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | He sent me a docx file he wrote with Word for Mac on that thing. | Sep 28 05:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | 120 KB. | Sep 28 05:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | I opened it, edited a bit in LibreOffice on Fedora, and saved and it was 10 KB. | Sep 28 05:00 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I had to open it and check to make sure nothing got destroyed. | Sep 28 05:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's keys missing from that Macbook and the battery kills out after a few minutes. | Sep 28 05:01 |
r_schestowitz | at least you know it's cargo-safe | Sep 28 05:02 |
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r_schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: you'd be hard-pressed to find any "Apple" stored in the Pinoy market | Sep 28 05:03 |
r_schestowitz | and they hardly sell anything other than Windows | Sep 28 05:04 |
r_schestowitz | not even chromebooks | Sep 28 05:04 |
r_schestowitz | they don't know what that is (at the shops) | Sep 28 05:04 |
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cubexyz | around here they know chromebooks (at least that has changed) | Sep 28 05:15 |
cubexyz | this region even uses chromebooks for school | Sep 28 05:15 |
r_schestowitz | so says the press | Sep 28 05:16 |
r_schestowitz | US/north america they say (chromeos outpaces Windows) | Sep 28 05:16 |
r_schestowitz | (in schools) | Sep 28 05:16 |
cubexyz | that appears to be true | Sep 28 05:16 |
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mandy | Hello :-) Just a heads up on this worrying article: https://itsfoss.com/hippocratic-license/ | Sep 28 08:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | The Great Open Source Divide: ICE, Hippocratic License and the Controversy - It's FOSS | Sep 28 08:29 | |
mandy | Yet again the poisonous C.o.C. crowd trying to rule Linux, even openly against the Freedoms/FSF this time. | Sep 28 08:29 |
mandy | As somany are saying in the article's comments, there's no way politics should be messing with developers/code/users, especially at their expense. | Sep 28 08:30 |
r_schestowitz | hi mandy | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | ( DaemonFC[m] connection to your husband?) | Sep 28 08:31 |
mandy | Hi r_schestowitz :-) | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | mandy: I know the article | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | I will not touch it | Sep 28 08:31 |
mandy | Yes? | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | two main reasons (can think of more) | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | 1) don't feed the trolls | Sep 28 08:31 |
r_schestowitz | 2) as esr too has said (I don't often agree with him), stay well away of these troublemakers, don't become their 'target' | Sep 28 08:32 |
r_schestowitz | So no... Techrights won't cover this | Sep 28 08:32 |
mandy | Right, I see. I'd been worried to not see it written anywhere but itsfoss, not even reddit, lol, but I'm reassured by what you're saying, as if it's simply a case of not giving these trolls attention, then it can't be something that's ultimately a real threat. | Sep 28 08:33 |
r_schestowitz | also think of it like this | Sep 28 08:34 |
r_schestowitz | remember the 2016 US election? | Sep 28 08:34 |
mandy | Developers just powering on regardless will certainly annoy them, lol, as well as being ignored | Sep 28 08:34 |
r_schestowitz | They gave Trump billions worth of media publicity | Sep 28 08:34 |
r_schestowitz | his rivals had to pay for theirs | Sep 28 08:34 |
mandy | You're right, yes. | Sep 28 08:34 |
r_schestowitz | This idiot does not deserve any attention | Sep 28 08:34 |
r_schestowitz | if you want a very unsavoury coverage | Sep 28 08:35 |
r_schestowitz | (and background) | Sep 28 08:35 |
mandy | As long as everyone dismisses this CoC rubbish, they have no power. | Sep 28 08:35 |
r_schestowitz | then read https://theothermccain.com/2018/05/30/coraline-ada-ehmke-transgender-feminist-satanic-sjw/ | Sep 28 08:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theothermccain.com | Satanic Transgender SJW Wants to Control ‘Open Source’ Code Community : The Other McCain | Sep 28 08:35 | |
r_schestowitz | (Warning: bad language) | Sep 28 08:35 |
r_schestowitz | but it's detailed and I think based on facts | Sep 28 08:35 |
mandy | Thanks for the link and headsup :-) | Sep 28 08:36 |
r_schestowitz | it'll make you more angry | Sep 28 08:36 |
r_schestowitz | but this is what we deal with, need to at least understand it and keep this underground | Sep 28 08:36 |
mandy | I bet it will. These ppl are like nasty little crabs snapping at everyone's ankles, when there are far more important things to focus on. | Sep 28 08:36 |
r_schestowitz | they're like pigs wanting to drags us to the mud for a fight so we're down to their level | Sep 28 08:36 |
r_schestowitz | I have a good article about Torvalds coming | Sep 28 08:37 |
r_schestowitz | stick around, I'm always done | Sep 28 08:37 |
r_schestowitz | (it's about technical and corporate aspects) | Sep 28 08:37 |
mandy | Yes, seeing the truth about what's going on is so important, and being able to get an overview, and dismiss what/who shouldn't be given attention, in order to focus on what's really needing attention/action | Sep 28 08:37 |
r_schestowitz | exactly | Sep 28 08:38 |
mandy | Cool about the Torvalds article | Sep 28 08:38 |
r_schestowitz | none of that in TR | Sep 28 08:38 |
r_schestowitz | older: http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Sep 28 08:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights | Sep 28 08:38 | |
mandy | You do a brilliant job! | Sep 28 08:38 |
r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16100471 | Sep 28 08:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Matthew Garrett is now trying to do to @fsf #gnu and #rms what he did to LF, #torvalds and #linux (watch out, people) http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Sep 28 08:39 | |
mandy | That's not good at all. | Sep 28 08:40 |
r_schestowitz | He DESCRIBES himself as "social justice warrior". He has a flair that says that in Reddit. That's like an atheist going with the label "GOD IS DEAD!" | Sep 28 08:40 |
mandy | omg, it's surreal how they think ppl will like these labels, lol ... at least we who are awake know exactly where we are from the get go though, lol | Sep 28 08:41 |
mandy | Noticing how fast Red Hat, and this CoC banshee, have stepped in after RMS resigning from FSF/MIT. | Sep 28 08:43 |
r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16100500 | Sep 28 08:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Days before #rms was forced to resign Matthew Garrett wrote this (only >>hours<< after the media smear campaign started, intentionally twisting what RMS had ACTUALLY said) https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/52587.html see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Sep 28 08:43 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software | Sep 28 08:43 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 28 08:44 | |
mandy | I'm just skimming the article re MG, so if he's trying to be opportunistic also, I imagine the FSF have their work cut out at the moment. | Sep 28 08:44 |
r_schestowitz | they have him an AWARD | Sep 28 08:44 |
mandy | Vultures, who couldn't achieve what RMS has if they worked for 100 years. | Sep 28 08:44 |
r_schestowitz | Who in FSF gave Matthew Garrett an award? A very bad decision unless the goal was to remove RMS, eventually http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ | Sep 28 08:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI ‘Secure Boot’ | Techrights | Sep 28 08:45 | |
mandy | wow, the only person being 'incredibly insensitive' is MG himself | Sep 28 08:45 |
r_schestowitz | yup | Sep 28 08:46 |
r_schestowitz | he writes bad words | Sep 28 08:46 |
r_schestowitz | like "FART FART FART" | Sep 28 08:46 |
mandy | lol | Sep 28 08:46 |
r_schestowitz | very immature and offensive | Sep 28 08:46 |
mandy | it is | Sep 28 08:46 |
r_schestowitz | Matthew Garrett is very immature and offensive (see his tweets); for him to lecture others on politely is, well... absolutely incredible! | Sep 28 08:46 |
mandy | absolutely! | Sep 28 08:47 |
r_schestowitz | anyway... | Sep 28 08:47 |
r_schestowitz | I'll finish my Torvalds article, then post the link here | Sep 28 08:47 |
r_schestowitz | I need to press on with this | Sep 28 08:47 |
mandy | Awesome! And great to chat. I've got those articles to read, and will look forward to the Torvalds one. Have a great day. :-) | Sep 28 08:47 |
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MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/MG0NpVJ | Sep 28 10:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Know your Magic Swords - Album on Imgur | Sep 28 10:37 | |
r_schestowitz | re Devuan troubles | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > i wouldnt call it an infighting problem, i would call it an asshole problem. | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > denis roio is a lovely person, fsr is a gent. several of the developers are alright, i will never vouch for enzo but this isnt about him-- | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > the community is a mix of fine fellows and ladies, but it is run by a monsterous narcissist, and the people who really hold the keys are trump-like children. | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > its a mess. | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | > the developers are helpless on this one. sure, they should put their foot down. it would help. it would also take away from their valuable work, and the developers really arent where the problem comes from. this is not an isolated incident-- it is years of actual abuse. glorified hall monitors with a whiff of their own authority, like huffing glue or petrol in a paper bag. its killing the whole thing, slowly. | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | If it possible that some provocation is deliberate and engineered to derailed the whole effort? | Sep 28 10:56 |
r_schestowitz | "Re: stop the presses, hes talking to me again" | Sep 28 10:56 |
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*amarsh04 catches up with backscroll and will reboot into a new kernel - having a kexec that worked was one of the things that drove me away from systemd | Sep 28 11:24 | |
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amarsh04 | back | Sep 28 11:31 |
r_schestowitz | amarsh04: can you elucidate on systemd? | Sep 28 12:15 |
r_schestowitz | amarsh04: also, what happens to Andre Morton? | Sep 28 12:15 |
r_schestowitz | He has been so quiet since joining Google | Sep 28 12:15 |
r_schestowitz | And now we have an American Microsoft apologist -- not Australian friend of Linus -- as 'next in line' for Torvalds. How did that come about? | Sep 28 12:16 |
amarsh04 | not really r_scestowitz - I just removed systemd as much as possible from my Debian unstable installations, and used a repository from one of the Devuan contributors until Devuan was available | Sep 28 12:22 |
r_schestowitz | see the above text | Sep 28 12:23 |
r_schestowitz | an insider of devuab circles sent me this hours ago | Sep 28 12:23 |
amarsh04 | systemd just seemed to want to take so much control of things it broke use cases that their maintainers didn't happen to use, or assumed that one always had local console access to fix things | Sep 28 12:23 |
r_schestowitz | *devuan | Sep 28 12:23 |
amarsh04 | I hadn't followed the politics of Devuan | Sep 28 12:24 |
r_schestowitz | me neither | Sep 28 12:24 |
r_schestowitz | see latest techrights articles (this morning's) | Sep 28 12:24 |
r_schestowitz | we might need a lot more of devuan in years to come | Sep 28 12:24 |
amarsh04 | ok, when I can, between work days I can be a bit drained | Sep 28 12:25 |
amarsh04 | this week working Fri / Sat / Sun / Mon / Tue | Sep 28 12:25 |
r_schestowitz | ok | Sep 28 12:26 |
r_schestowitz | we decided we might retire soon | Sep 28 12:26 |
r_schestowitz | 10 years | Sep 28 12:27 |
r_schestowitz | to focus on our sites | Sep 28 12:27 |
amarsh04 | I wasn't running linux at home until 2004 but had heard Linux Torvalds live in 1994 at a conference for the now defunct Australian Unix Users Group | Sep 28 12:29 |
r_schestowitz | why do you visit Tokyp so often? | Sep 28 12:31 |
amarsh04 | seeing live music, very friendly rapport between artists even across different record companies and with and between fans | Sep 28 12:32 |
amarsh04 | also almost the same time zone and relatively clean and safe | Sep 28 12:33 |
r_schestowitz | so you like jpop or something else? | Sep 28 12:33 |
amarsh04 | music of anime / games | Sep 28 12:33 |
r_schestowitz | we like k-pop | Sep 28 12:34 |
r_schestowitz | j-pop is a bit different, I like it a bit less | Sep 28 12:34 |
amarsh04 | but I've also seen Yellow Magic Orchestra live and jazz pianist Hiromi Uehara and some classical concerts and musical theatre | Sep 28 12:34 |
amarsh04 | audience sizes from 14 people to 27,000 people | Sep 28 12:37 |
amarsh04 | nice being able to get almost anywhere in Japan by train | Sep 28 12:47 |
r_schestowitz | that's good for their air quality too | Sep 28 12:48 |
r_schestowitz | manchester is improving in that regard | Sep 28 12:48 |
r_schestowitz | iirc you're in Adelaide | Sep 28 12:48 |
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amarsh04 | yes, it hasn't had such overfast growth lately as other Australian cities | Sep 28 12:51 |
amarsh04 | made a big difference for me that the trains to near where I live now run at least 2 services per hour from just before 6am to just after midnight | Sep 28 12:52 |
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scientes | and how many speakers of welsh are there? | Sep 28 15:47 |
scientes | https://www.gov.uk/cymraeg | Sep 28 15:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Defnyddio gwasanaethau’r llywodraeth yn Gymraeg - GOV.UK | Sep 28 15:47 | |
r_schestowitz | scientes: millions | Sep 28 15:49 |
r_schestowitz | I met some yesterday | Sep 28 15:49 |
scientes | that's pretty impressive | Sep 28 15:49 |
scientes | actually | Sep 28 15:49 |
r_schestowitz | less so Gaelic | Sep 28 15:49 |
scientes | there was a US citizen that took his Ireland citizenship formalities in Irish | Sep 28 15:50 |
scientes | a linguist | Sep 28 15:50 |
scientes | this guy did UK citizenship in welsh https://blog.florian.me.uk/2015/08/sufficient-knowledge-of-english/ | Sep 28 15:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.florian.me.uk | Sufficient knowledge of the English, Welsh or Scottish Gaelic language, not. – Florian Breit's Blog | Sep 28 15:52 | |
scientes | maybe i was confusing | Sep 28 15:52 |
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scientes | hmm, looks like a differn't guyt | Sep 28 15:55 |
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asdfe324 | hi | Sep 28 17:10 |
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scientes | YOu can't record certain Skype calls | Sep 28 17:44 |
scientes | Airbnb too forces contact to go through its app, and doesn't forward a copy to SMS or e-mail, only a "got mail" notice | Sep 28 17:45 |
r_schestowitz | if you can play it out, you can always record it somehow :-) | Sep 28 17:46 |
scientes | yeah but Android is hell | Sep 28 17:47 |
scientes | oh, i guess they have a Linux client | Sep 28 17:47 |
scientes | I found a cheaper price for the same ticket, but kiwi.com and TAP Portugul refuse to honour the US DoT 24-hour rule | Sep 28 17:48 |
scientes | which means that the DoT could shut them down | Sep 28 17:48 |
scientes | but I need the record of TAP refusing also | Sep 28 17:48 |
scientes | the rule isn't bad, and it isn't really US imposing on other countries, as it only applies to US flights (that might have two or more legs) | Sep 28 17:50 |
scientes | its not the same as the evil US visa policies on trasit visas | Sep 28 17:50 |
scientes | and of course TAP implements it, and kiwi.com is just pocketing the money | Sep 28 17:50 |
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scientes | https://www.bartleby.com/198/1.html | Sep 28 19:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bartleby.com | 1. The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock. T.S. Eliot. 1920. Prufrock and Other Observations | Sep 28 19:30 | |
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scientes | lmao, yandex cloud doesn't even have centos 8 | Sep 28 21:05 |
psydroid | wasn't that released just a few days ago? | Sep 28 21:28 |
scientes | may 7th | Sep 28 21:30 |
scientes | i need a avx512 vps asap | Sep 28 21:30 |
scientes | and I can't get the securecode thingy to work to use yandex cloud | Sep 28 21:31 |
scientes | and scaleway is EPYC, so not new enough | Sep 28 21:31 |
scientes | and Google IBM and Amazon clouds are too high priced and they nickle and dime you and don't really tell your prices unless you really look | Sep 28 21:33 |
scientes | Google is also slooooooooooow | Sep 28 21:39 |
scientes | fuck their website is a waste of time | Sep 28 21:39 |
scientes | i remember that's why i gave up last time | Sep 28 21:39 |
scientes | ok, they say "skylake" and then they give me a shit ivybridge | Sep 28 22:01 |
scientes | wtf | Sep 28 22:01 |
scientes | ...waiting 90 seconds for it to terminate vps | Sep 28 22:06 |
MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/22/898616ac5fd52527.mp4 | Sep 28 22:06 |
scientes | and if you shutdown the instance from the console it doesn't actually stop the billing | Sep 28 22:09 |
scientes | i'm fucking tired of VPS provider's bullshit | Sep 28 22:09 |
superkuh | So avoid the big boys and go with something like BuyVM. | Sep 28 22:29 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Q4trlxz.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Q4trlxz ) | Sep 28 22:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ᴮᵃᶰᵍ - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 22:31 | |
scientes | " 3.5Ghz+ Intel® processors " | Sep 28 22:36 |
scientes | superkuh, yeah, but which generation? | Sep 28 22:36 |
scientes | I need recent so i can test new features | Sep 28 22:37 |
superkuh | I don't know. I suppose you'd have to ask on their (very responsive and fast) IRC channel/network. | Sep 28 22:37 |
superkuh | But probably not what you want given that. | Sep 28 22:38 |
scientes | I just use the web support thingy | Sep 28 22:38 |
scientes | avx512cd avx512bw avx512vl x | Sep 28 22:38 |
scientes | this thing is actually pretty hot | Sep 28 22:38 |
scientes | even if it costs more than half the amount of my rent (if i accidentally leave it running) | Sep 28 22:38 |
superkuh | You actually doing things with 512 bit ops or bit packing stuff? | Sep 28 22:40 |
scientes | well no, but i am using avx512 | Sep 28 22:40 |
scientes | ahhhhhhh, right->left vector ordering... | Sep 28 22:41 |
scientes | no, that should matter | Sep 28 22:41 |
scientes | as its going straight across... | Sep 28 22:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I tried setting an env variable to load the experimental "IRIS" driver on boot. | Sep 28 22:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | It caused my entire display to freeze up. | Sep 28 22:43 |
scientes | oh, and ordering wouldn't matter | Sep 28 22:45 |
scientes | cause i'm just summing them up weird | Sep 28 22:45 |
superkuh | Wow. RMS stepping down from being head of the GNU project. | Sep 28 23:34 |
superkuh | It'd be much better if he just didn't. | Sep 28 23:34 |
superkuh | And forced their hand. | Sep 28 23:34 |
scientes | hmmm, avx512 isn't that great | Sep 28 23:37 |
scientes | or the llvm optimizations just suck | Sep 28 23:37 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/JCjBkgO.png | Sep 28 23:38 |
scientes | I'm only getting like 15% faster performance | Sep 28 23:39 |
scientes | less | Sep 28 23:39 |
scientes | I would expect at least 50% faster | Sep 28 23:39 |
scientes | ahh i'm hitting a special case that is why | Sep 28 23:45 |
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