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psydroidso for the GNOME lawsuit someone on this Dutch site was questioning the connection between Microsoft, Gates and Intellectual Ventures, so I linked a few Techrights articlesSep 28 00:42
psydroidbut I have had a suspicion for a long time that Microsoft employs people working at partner firms to infiltrate these sites and post their pro-Microsoft views thereSep 28 00:43
psydroidit's getting tiring at timesSep 28 00:43
scientesRenunciation of U.S. Citizenship $2,350Sep 28 00:46
XRevan86Nothing is free in the land of the freeSep 28 00:59
cubexyzthings were quite bad back around the 2000 era OS-wiseSep 28 01:08
cubexyzwinprinters, winscanners, winmodems...Sep 28 01:08
cubexyzwin2k was really the last straw for me, switched to Redhat 8.0 soon afterwardsSep 28 01:09
cubexyzaround 1994 I looked at various Linuxes, Minix and FreeBSDSep 28 01:12
cubexyzeven tried to sell some OS/2 :)Sep 28 01:12
scientesvarious linuxes?Sep 28 01:12
scientesit was only 3 years oldSep 28 01:12
cubexyzYggdrasil, slackware and darkstarSep 28 01:13
scienteslibc5Sep 28 01:13
cubexyzdidn't stick with it though, and Minix didn't support my CDROM Sep 28 01:16
scientesi had the same sort of experience in 2003Sep 28 01:19
scientesit was mainly video games that brought be back to windows xpSep 28 01:19
scientesand when vista didn't support my hardware and quickly got a virus I realized that windows was historySep 28 01:19
cubexyzsome of the loki games were pretty goodSep 28 01:19
cubexyzHOMM3, still play it now and thenSep 28 01:21
cubexyzM$ won't even talk to you if you got XP Sep 28 01:22
cubexyzmotherboard dies, forgot license key? too bad, buy a new licenseSep 28 01:23
scienteshttps://washington.mid.ru/en/press-centre/news/world_at_a_crossroads_and_a_system_of_international_relations_for_the_future_by_foreign_minister_ser/Sep 28 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-washington.mid.ru | “World at a Crossroads and a System of International Relations for the Future” by Foreign Minister Sergey LavrovSep 28 01:33
scientesAhhhhhhSep 28 01:33
scientesis there a good word for a demon that is just in your headSep 28 02:35
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128624 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89d571c9-2532-4863-9d22-cc04968633d5]Sep 28 04:19
kaniinir_schestowitz: what is PunixSep 28 04:19
kaniinir_schestowitz: all i see is a TI-89 graphing calculator OSSep 28 04:19
r_schestowitznot my entry, kaniiniSep 28 04:20
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DaemonFC[m]M$ won't even talk to you if you got XP Sep 28 04:51
DaemonFC[m]I doubt they're updating their product activation for XP if they aren't doing much else with it.Sep 28 04:51
r_schestowitzXP, LOL...Sep 28 04:51
r_schestowitzwho uses an OS from 2001?Sep 28 04:52
r_schestowitzGNU/Linux is freeSep 28 04:52
DaemonFC[m]Eh, there were instructions for how to convert "Virtual XP Mode" into something that runs in Boxes.Sep 28 04:52
r_schestowitzGNOME Boxes?Sep 28 04:54
DaemonFC[m]YeahSep 28 04:55
DaemonFC[m]I don't see anything wrong with it.Sep 28 04:56
DaemonFC[m]If you're using it to run some old Windows software that doesn't like Wine or whatever.Sep 28 04:56
r_schestowitzright..Sep 28 04:56
r_schestowitzbut to MSFT it's about moneySep 28 04:56
r_schestowitznot about your personal needsSep 28 04:56
r_schestowitzthat's why we need to abolish WindowsSep 28 04:57
r_schestowitzlet people have their PC at their serviceSep 28 04:57
r_schestowitznot 'serviced' by Vista10 "Updates" you cannot refuseSep 28 04:57
r_schestowitzthey backported surveillance into these updatesSep 28 04:57
r_schestowitzVista7+* 'telemetry'Sep 28 04:57
DaemonFC[m]I might buy a cheap refurb laptop for Mandy.Sep 28 04:59
DaemonFC[m]Anything is better than that 2008 Macbook that his sister gave him.Sep 28 04:59
DaemonFC[m]Prolly stick Ubuntu on it so I don't have to fuck with it all the time.Sep 28 04:59
r_schestowitzwhat does he use?Sep 28 04:59
r_schestowitz2008?!Sep 28 04:59
DaemonFC[m]Whatever the last Mac OS was that runs on that piece of crap.Sep 28 05:00
r_schestowitzMine is 2009Sep 28 05:00
r_schestowitzyou can put gnu linux on thatSep 28 05:00
DaemonFC[m]He sent me a docx file he wrote with Word for Mac on that thing.Sep 28 05:00
DaemonFC[m]120 KB.Sep 28 05:00
DaemonFC[m]I opened it, edited a bit in LibreOffice on Fedora, and saved and it was 10 KB.Sep 28 05:00
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DaemonFC[m]I had to open it and check to make sure nothing got destroyed.Sep 28 05:00
DaemonFC[m]There's keys missing from that Macbook and the battery kills out after a few minutes.Sep 28 05:01
r_schestowitzat least you know it's cargo-safeSep 28 05:02
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r_schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: you'd be hard-pressed to find any "Apple" stored in the Pinoy marketSep 28 05:03
r_schestowitzand they hardly sell anything other than WindowsSep 28 05:04
r_schestowitznot even chromebooksSep 28 05:04
r_schestowitzthey don't know what that is (at the shops)Sep 28 05:04
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cubexyzaround here they know chromebooks (at least that has changed)Sep 28 05:15
cubexyzthis region even uses chromebooks for schoolSep 28 05:15
r_schestowitzso says the pressSep 28 05:16
r_schestowitzUS/north america they say (chromeos outpaces Windows)Sep 28 05:16
r_schestowitz(in schools)Sep 28 05:16
cubexyzthat appears to be true Sep 28 05:16
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mandyHello :-)  Just a heads up on this worrying article: https://itsfoss.com/hippocratic-license/Sep 28 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | The Great Open Source Divide: ICE, Hippocratic License and the Controversy - It's FOSSSep 28 08:29
mandyYet again the poisonous C.o.C. crowd trying to rule Linux, even openly against the Freedoms/FSF this time. Sep 28 08:29
mandyAs somany are saying in the article's comments, there's no way politics should be messing with developers/code/users, especially at their expense. Sep 28 08:30
r_schestowitzhi mandySep 28 08:31
r_schestowitz( DaemonFC[m] connection to your husband?)Sep 28 08:31
mandyHi r_schestowitz :-)Sep 28 08:31
r_schestowitzmandy: I know the articleSep 28 08:31
r_schestowitzI will not touch itSep 28 08:31
mandyYes?Sep 28 08:31
r_schestowitztwo main reasons (can think of more)Sep 28 08:31
r_schestowitz1) don't feed the trollsSep 28 08:31
r_schestowitz2) as esr too has said (I don't often agree with him), stay well away of these troublemakers, don't become their 'target'Sep 28 08:32
r_schestowitzSo no... Techrights won't cover thisSep 28 08:32
mandyRight, I see. I'd been worried to not see it written anywhere but itsfoss, not even reddit, lol, but I'm reassured by what you're saying, as if it's simply a case of not giving these trolls attention, then it can't be something that's ultimately a real threat. Sep 28 08:33
r_schestowitzalso think of it like thisSep 28 08:34
r_schestowitzremember the 2016 US election?Sep 28 08:34
mandyDevelopers just powering on regardless will certainly annoy them, lol, as well as being ignoredSep 28 08:34
r_schestowitzThey gave Trump billions worth of media publicitySep 28 08:34
r_schestowitzhis rivals had to pay for theirsSep 28 08:34
mandyYou're right, yes. Sep 28 08:34
r_schestowitzThis idiot does not deserve any attentionSep 28 08:34
r_schestowitzif you want a very unsavoury coverageSep 28 08:35
r_schestowitz(and background)Sep 28 08:35
mandyAs long as everyone dismisses this CoC rubbish, they have no power. Sep 28 08:35
r_schestowitzthen read  https://theothermccain.com/2018/05/30/coraline-ada-ehmke-transgender-feminist-satanic-sjw/Sep 28 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theothermccain.com | Satanic Transgender SJW Wants to Control ‘Open Source’ Code Community : The Other McCainSep 28 08:35
r_schestowitz(Warning: bad language)Sep 28 08:35
r_schestowitzbut it's detailed and I think based on factsSep 28 08:35
mandyThanks for the link and headsup :-)Sep 28 08:36
r_schestowitzit'll make you more angrySep 28 08:36
r_schestowitzbut this is what we deal with, need to at least understand it and keep this undergroundSep 28 08:36
mandyI bet it will. These ppl are like nasty little crabs snapping at everyone's ankles, when there are far more important things to focus on. Sep 28 08:36
r_schestowitzthey're like pigs wanting to drags us to the mud for a fight so we're down to their levelSep 28 08:36
r_schestowitzI have a good article about Torvalds comingSep 28 08:37
r_schestowitzstick around, I'm always doneSep 28 08:37
r_schestowitz(it's about technical and corporate aspects)Sep 28 08:37
mandyYes, seeing the truth about what's going on is so important, and being able to get an overview, and dismiss what/who shouldn't be given attention, in order to focus on what's really needing attention/actionSep 28 08:37
r_schestowitzexactlySep 28 08:38
mandyCool about the Torvalds articleSep 28 08:38
r_schestowitznone of that in TRSep 28 08:38
r_schestowitzolder: http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/Sep 28 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | TechrightsSep 28 08:38
mandyYou do a brilliant job!Sep 28 08:38
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16100471Sep 28 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Matthew Garrett is now trying to do to @fsf #gnu and #rms what he did to LF, #torvalds and #linux (watch out, people) http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/Sep 28 08:39
mandyThat's not good at all. Sep 28 08:40
r_schestowitzHe DESCRIBES himself as "social justice warrior". He has a flair that says that in Reddit. That's like an atheist going with the label "GOD IS DEAD!"Sep 28 08:40
mandyomg, it's surreal how they think ppl will like these labels, lol ... at least we who are awake know exactly where we are from the get go though, lolSep 28 08:41
mandyNoticing how fast Red Hat, and this CoC banshee, have stepped in after RMS resigning from FSF/MIT. Sep 28 08:43
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16100500Sep 28 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Days before #rms was forced to resign Matthew Garrett wrote this (only >>hours<< after the media smear campaign started, intentionally twisting what RMS had ACTUALLY said) https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/52587.html see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122Sep 28 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | It's time to talk about post-RMS Free SoftwareSep 28 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux MachinesSep 28 08:44
mandyI'm just skimming the article re MG, so if he's trying to be opportunistic also, I imagine the FSF have their work cut out at the moment. Sep 28 08:44
r_schestowitzthey have him an AWARDSep 28 08:44
mandyVultures, who couldn't achieve what RMS has if they worked for 100 years. Sep 28 08:44
r_schestowitzWho in FSF gave Matthew Garrett an award?  A very bad decision unless the goal was to remove RMS, eventually  http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/Sep 28 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI ‘Secure Boot’ | TechrightsSep 28 08:45
mandywow, the only person being 'incredibly insensitive' is MG himselfSep 28 08:45
r_schestowitzyupSep 28 08:46
r_schestowitzhe writes bad wordsSep 28 08:46
r_schestowitzlike "FART FART FART"Sep 28 08:46
mandylolSep 28 08:46
r_schestowitzvery immature and offensiveSep 28 08:46
mandyit isSep 28 08:46
r_schestowitzMatthew Garrett is very immature and offensive (see his tweets); for him to lecture others on politely is, well... absolutely incredible!Sep 28 08:46
mandyabsolutely!Sep 28 08:47
r_schestowitzanyway...Sep 28 08:47
r_schestowitzI'll finish my Torvalds article, then post the link hereSep 28 08:47
r_schestowitzI need to press on with thisSep 28 08:47
mandyAwesome! And great to chat. I've got those articles to read, and will look forward to the Torvalds one. Have a great day.  :-)Sep 28 08:47
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The GNU/Linux Community Feels Increasingly Isolated, Homeless and Orphaned in a New Age of Corporate Takeovers http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/the-gnu-linux-raid-heist/ #gnu #linux #microsoft #ibm #gpl [https://pleroma.site/objects/a24e1d17-779d-45a0-b8b8-66af2663692e]Sep 28 09:58
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/MG0NpVJSep 28 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Know your Magic Swords - Album on ImgurSep 28 10:37
r_schestowitzre Devuan troublesSep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> i wouldnt call it an infighting problem, i would call it an asshole problem.Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> denis roio is a lovely person, fsr is a gent. several of the developers are alright, i will never vouch for enzo but this isnt about him--Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> the community is a mix of fine fellows and ladies, but it is run by a monsterous narcissist, and the people who really hold the keys are trump-like children.Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> its a mess.Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz> the developers are helpless on this one. sure, they should put their foot down. it would help. it would also take away from their valuable work, and the developers really arent where the problem comes from. this is not an isolated incident-- it is years of actual abuse. glorified hall monitors with a whiff of their own authority, like huffing glue or petrol in a paper bag. its killing the whole thing, slowly.Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitzIf it possible that some provocation is deliberate and engineered to derailed the whole effort?Sep 28 10:56
r_schestowitz"Re: stop the presses, hes talking to me again"Sep 28 10:56
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*amarsh04 catches up with backscroll and will reboot into a new kernel - having a kexec that worked was one of the things that drove me away from systemdSep 28 11:24
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amarsh04backSep 28 11:31
r_schestowitzamarsh04: can you elucidate on systemd?Sep 28 12:15
r_schestowitzamarsh04: also, what happens to Andre Morton?Sep 28 12:15
r_schestowitzHe has been so quiet since joining GoogleSep 28 12:15
r_schestowitzAnd now we have an American Microsoft apologist -- not Australian friend of Linus -- as 'next in line' for Torvalds. How did that come about?Sep 28 12:16
amarsh04not really r_scestowitz - I just removed systemd as much as possible from my Debian unstable installations, and used a repository from one of the Devuan contributors until Devuan was availableSep 28 12:22
r_schestowitzsee the above textSep 28 12:23
r_schestowitzan insider of devuab circles sent me this hours agoSep 28 12:23
amarsh04systemd just seemed to want to take so much control of things it broke use cases that their maintainers didn't happen to use, or assumed that one always had local console access to fix thingsSep 28 12:23
r_schestowitz*devuanSep 28 12:23
amarsh04I hadn't followed the politics of DevuanSep 28 12:24
r_schestowitzme neitherSep 28 12:24
r_schestowitzsee latest techrights articles (this morning's)Sep 28 12:24
r_schestowitzwe might need a lot more of devuan in years to comeSep 28 12:24
amarsh04ok, when I can, between work days I can be a bit drainedSep 28 12:25
amarsh04this week working Fri / Sat / Sun / Mon / TueSep 28 12:25
r_schestowitzokSep 28 12:26
r_schestowitzwe decided we might retire soonSep 28 12:26
r_schestowitz10 yearsSep 28 12:27
r_schestowitzto focus on our sitesSep 28 12:27
amarsh04I wasn't running linux at home until 2004 but had heard Linux Torvalds live in 1994 at a conference for the now defunct Australian Unix Users GroupSep 28 12:29
r_schestowitzwhy do you visit Tokyp so often?Sep 28 12:31
amarsh04seeing live music, very friendly rapport between artists even across different record companies and with and between fansSep 28 12:32
amarsh04also almost the same time zone and relatively clean and safeSep 28 12:33
r_schestowitzso you like jpop or something else?Sep 28 12:33
amarsh04music of anime / gamesSep 28 12:33
r_schestowitzwe like k-popSep 28 12:34
r_schestowitzj-pop is a bit different, I like it a bit lessSep 28 12:34
amarsh04but I've also seen Yellow Magic Orchestra live and jazz pianist Hiromi Uehara and some classical concerts and musical theatreSep 28 12:34
amarsh04audience sizes from 14 people to 27,000 peopleSep 28 12:37
amarsh04nice being able to get almost anywhere in Japan by trainSep 28 12:47
r_schestowitzthat's good for their air quality tooSep 28 12:48
r_schestowitzmanchester is  improving in that regardSep 28 12:48
r_schestowitziirc you're in AdelaideSep 28 12:48
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amarsh04yes, it hasn't had such overfast growth lately as other Australian citiesSep 28 12:51
amarsh04made a big difference for me that the trains to near where I live now run at least 2 services per hour from just before 6am to just after midnight Sep 28 12:52
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scientesand how many speakers of welsh are there?Sep 28 15:47
scienteshttps://www.gov.uk/cymraegSep 28 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Defnyddio gwasanaethau’r llywodraeth yn Gymraeg - GOV.UKSep 28 15:47
r_schestowitzscientes: millionsSep 28 15:49
r_schestowitzI met some yesterdaySep 28 15:49
scientesthat's pretty impressiveSep 28 15:49
scientesactuallySep 28 15:49
r_schestowitzless so Gaelic Sep 28 15:49
scientesthere was a US citizen that took his Ireland citizenship formalities in IrishSep 28 15:50
scientesa linguistSep 28 15:50
scientesthis guy did UK citizenship in welsh https://blog.florian.me.uk/2015/08/sufficient-knowledge-of-english/Sep 28 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.florian.me.uk | Sufficient knowledge of the English, Welsh or Scottish Gaelic language, not. – Florian Breit's BlogSep 28 15:52
scientesmaybe i was confusingSep 28 15:52
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scienteshmm, looks like a differn't guytSep 28 15:55
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scientesYOu can't record certain Skype callsSep 28 17:44
scientesAirbnb too forces contact to go through its app, and doesn't forward a copy to SMS or e-mail, only a "got mail" noticeSep 28 17:45
r_schestowitzif you can play it out, you can always record it somehow :-)Sep 28 17:46
scientesyeah but Android is hellSep 28 17:47
scientesoh, i guess they have a Linux clientSep 28 17:47
scientesI found a cheaper price for the same ticket, but kiwi.com and TAP Portugul refuse to honour the US DoT 24-hour ruleSep 28 17:48
scienteswhich means that the DoT could shut them downSep 28 17:48
scientesbut I need the record of TAP refusing alsoSep 28 17:48
scientesthe rule isn't bad, and it isn't really US imposing on other countries, as it only applies to US flights (that might have two or more legs)Sep 28 17:50
scientesits not the same as the evil US visa policies on trasit visasSep 28 17:50
scientesand of course TAP implements it, and kiwi.com is just pocketing the moneySep 28 17:50
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Essential tweaks after Manjaro (Plasma) installation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128636 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2e881a5e-3478-4fad-a754-dee3af21d055]Sep 28 19:05
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scienteshttps://www.bartleby.com/198/1.htmlSep 28 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bartleby.com | 1. The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock. T.S. Eliot. 1920. Prufrock and Other ObservationsSep 28 19:30
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Reverse Tethering with Ubuntu 18.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128639 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f47aa3c8-f470-41d3-91f5-0b02b400261d]Sep 28 19:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Invidious Everywherehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128640 [https://pleroma.site/objects/647e8257-83ce-4c68-a295-15b3f6f05ca5]Sep 28 19:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128641 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12e4b86d-9038-4877-be23-1495a7b02334]Sep 28 19:54
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scienteslmao, yandex cloud doesn't even have centos 8Sep 28 21:05
psydroidwasn't that released just a few days ago?Sep 28 21:28
scientesmay 7thSep 28 21:30
scientesi need a avx512 vps asapSep 28 21:30
scientesand I can't get the securecode thingy to work to use yandex cloudSep 28 21:31
scientesand scaleway is EPYC, so not new enoughSep 28 21:31
scientesand Google IBM and Amazon clouds are too high priced and they nickle and dime you and don't really tell your prices unless you really lookSep 28 21:33
scientesGoogle is also slooooooooooowSep 28 21:39
scientesfuck their website is a waste of timeSep 28 21:39
scientesi remember that's why i gave up last timeSep 28 21:39
scientesok, they say "skylake" and then they give me a shit ivybridgeSep 28 22:01
scienteswtfSep 28 22:01
scientes...waiting 90 seconds for it to terminate vpsSep 28 22:06
MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/22/898616ac5fd52527.mp4Sep 28 22:06
scientesand if you shutdown the instance from the console it doesn't actually stop the billingSep 28 22:09
scientesi'm fucking tired of VPS provider's bullshitSep 28 22:09
superkuhSo avoid the big boys and go with something like BuyVM.Sep 28 22:29
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Q4trlxz.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Q4trlxz )Sep 28 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ᴮᵃᶰᵍ - GIF on ImgurSep 28 22:31
scientes" 3.5Ghz+ Intel® processors "Sep 28 22:36
scientessuperkuh, yeah, but which generation?Sep 28 22:36
scientesI need recent so i can test new featuresSep 28 22:37
superkuhI don't know. I suppose you'd have to ask on their (very responsive and fast) IRC channel/network.Sep 28 22:37
superkuhBut probably not what you want given that.Sep 28 22:38
scientesI just use the web support thingySep 28 22:38
scientesavx512cd avx512bw avx512vl xSep 28 22:38
scientesthis thing is actually pretty hotSep 28 22:38
scienteseven if it costs more than half the amount of my rent (if i accidentally leave it running)Sep 28 22:38
superkuhYou actually doing things with 512 bit ops or bit packing stuff?Sep 28 22:40
scienteswell no, but i am using avx512Sep 28 22:40
scientesahhhhhhh, right->left vector ordering...Sep 28 22:41
scientesno, that should matterSep 28 22:41
scientesas its going straight across...Sep 28 22:42
DaemonFC[m]I tried setting an env variable to load the experimental "IRIS" driver on boot.Sep 28 22:42
DaemonFC[m]It caused my entire display to freeze up.Sep 28 22:43
scientesoh, and ordering wouldn't matterSep 28 22:45
scientescause i'm just summing them up weirdSep 28 22:45
superkuhWow. RMS stepping down from being head of the GNU project.Sep 28 23:34
superkuhIt'd be much better if he just didn't.Sep 28 23:34
superkuhAnd forced their hand.Sep 28 23:34
scienteshmmm, avx512 isn't that greatSep 28 23:37
scientesor the llvm optimizations just suckSep 28 23:37
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/JCjBkgO.pngSep 28 23:38
scientesI'm only getting like 15% faster performanceSep 28 23:39
scienteslessSep 28 23:39
scientesI would expect at least 50% fasterSep 28 23:39
scientesahh i'm hitting a special case that is whySep 28 23:45

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