Bonum Certa Men Certa

GNOME Console Won’t Support Color Palettes or Profiles; Will Support Esperanto

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Sep 28, 2023

Reprinted with permission from Ryan Farmer.

GNOME is transitioning to a new terminal emulator called Console.

When I had GNOME, I had Console and GNOME Terminal installed, but I fixed everything so it would only open in Terminal, because Console wasn’t very good.

I figured that, maybe, they were just doing a code rewrite and planned to add the features later. Nope.

aday commented 10 hours ago

@orowith2os if there’s a reason you think that profiles or custom color palettes are needed, please provide a short statement of why. It’s best to stick to the practical issues!

(Personally, I don’t think that either of these features are desirable.)

Fedora Issue Tracker

Looking over the development log, there WILL be a translation into Esperanto, which adds 449 lines to the program’s source code.

You almost have to wonder what the use for an Esperanto translation for GNOME is when they remove basic features, even from the Terminal.

Most people who are going to be intimidated by color palettes and multi-profile support will be far more intimidated by bash, which is not great for interactive use and in scripting, like everything GNU, makes up a bunch of non-POSIX crap just so people will use it and make damn sure their script isn’t portable to any other environment unless they go back and refactor it.

Also, between POSIX and bash, you’ve got enough situations where script code that looks “obviously correct” in fact goes off and does something horrible and idiotic instead. Also, fairly typical of GNU. “Obviously correct.” = Famous Last Words.

Anyway, I like to load the fish shell because it’s more pleasant for interactive use and much less prone to scripts that look good and then don’t actually work right.

This means that fish is not POSIX. I don’t care. If I need bashisms or POSIX, I’ll use a shebang for that script and call the appropriate shell. Or just run it in my user shell, which is still bash even though I don’t use bash.

I can change Konsole in KDE by telling it to use fish in my fish profile instead of bash, and opening that profile by default. If I need to switch to bash for a terminal tab, I can open a tab and type bash and hit enter.

Since GNOME Console doesn’t support loading a different shell, you have to do this by changing your user shell. Then there’s more risk of a compatibility problem because fish isn’t POSIX! People who want to use zsh or something are in more luck here.

So in my opinion, this is one more reason to get rid of GNOME.

This is happening, you will not change their minds. If you try, they’ll get really mean and either close the bug report, say you need to justify your use case (that’s their favorite), and/or say you were “impolite” and “CoC violation”, and ban your user account so they don’t have you reporting or commenting on things anymore.

Why deal with this mentality where they try to enforce their shitty defaults and then attack and slander and ban anyone who says, “Well what about that thing I could always do before?”.

Now I use Konsole, and if I want fish and a blue on black color palette, I will do that, fascists! LOL!

More on Esperanto.

Esperanto is a “constructed language” that nobody speaks natively and is not the official language of any country on Earth. It’s “synthetic” in that it was created pretty much in one go back in the 1800s as sort of a failed experiment in creating this “universal” backup language that everyone could learn as a second language. According to Wikipedia, there are estimated to be less than 2 million speakers of Esperanto as a second language on the entire planet, with over 8 billion people.

English is a fairly popular second language throughout the world. Even a lot of Chinese people, if they can afford to, try to make sure their children have a basic understanding of English, though the Communist government discourages it.

Wikipedia says that 372.9 million people speak English natively, but 1.08 billion speak it as a second language.

So there was never any real need for Esperanto and English has been a far more successful de facto second language.

In fact, in the Philippines, where my spouse is from, they have to fall back to it a lot anyway because there are like 11 different languages and it’s not a big country. So they end up resorting to using English with each other, a lot.

There’s been this effort to demonize the English language, which for centuries was one of the languages that meant “civilization” everywhere it was. Hey, if Captain Picard in Star Trek could say that about French, I can say it about English, and I’m not sorry.

Other Recent Techrights' Posts

Gravitating Towards What Your Role in Society May Be (or What You're Truly Good At)
Many IBMers already realise that they spent years if not decades of their lives working on mostly meaningless products/projects
 
Links 31/05/2026: Heat Wave Grips France and Edgar Morin Dies
Links for the day
Gemini Links 31/05/2026: Backup vs. Mirror, Year of the Death of a Euphemism, Slop Makes Only Yet Another (Untested) Calculator
Links for the day
IBM Red Hat Has a Long History or Track Record of Misusing Trademarks to Send Lawyers to Try to Take Down Pages and Web Sites of Critics
Red Hat claims to own words; IBM thinks it owns names
Richard Stallman is Coming Back to Bern to Give a Talk Next Month
another big talk coming up
900 Days Later
900 days is a very long time (almost 1,000)
Cybershow Requires Free Software to Record Shows
Cybershow is run by people who understand that without Software Freedom there can be no sovereignty
Losses at Microsoft's GitHub Seem to be Deepening
How many billions of dollars has Microsoft lost by betting on the false prediction that it can somehow "monetise" public code by LLMs?
Links 31/05/2026: Slop 'Code' (Junk) "Increasingly Leads to Production Failures" and "Huge Slop Costs With No Clear Benefits"
Links for the day
European Patent Office Strikes Intensify Tomorrow, Huge Strikes Planned for June, 10,000 Strike Participations Registered
Campinos may well be ousted soon
SLAPP Censorship - Part 93 Out of 200: A Blueprint of Reckless Lawfare in the UK, Waged and Funded by Americans (in Another Continent)
Lawfare powered by slop companies (including Microsoft) from America, targetting British people who consistently oppose slop because it's objectively terrible
Links 31/05/2026: Watershed Moment, Traveller RPG Book Binding, and GUI Annoyances
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 30, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, May 30, 2026
IBM CEO Can Become a Billionaire by Laying Off Tens of Thousands of Workers (or Buying Companies Using Borrowed Money, Only to Lay off Thousands in Them)
Like he did Confluent recently
Reminder That Linuxiac is a Slopfarm or Hybrid of Bobby and His LLMs
LLM fetishist that claims to cover Linux
BetaNews is Still Publishing Fake Articles, Sometimes Fake News, or LLM Slop Disguised as 'Journalism'
Slop isn't yet a thing of the past, but hopefully we'll get close to that by the end of this year
Gemini Links 30/05/2026: Writer's Block, Evil GAFAM (Google), and Scepticism of Slop
Links for the day
Links 30/05/2026: Fairphone 6, China’s Rise in Drug Development, Slop Wastes Money Without Delivering Value
Links for the day
Links 30/05/2026: Alarm Over Large Companies Cancelling Slop Contracts, Ozzy Osbourne Resurrection as Slop Draws Ire
Links for the day
Red Hat Exodus or RAs (or PIPs) in 2026 Not Limited to China, IBM is Doing Well at Hiding Layoffs
All we need to know is, does IBM hand out lots of PIPs?
SLAPP Censorship - Part 92 Out of 200: A Spouse Cannot be Turned "On" and "Off" Like a Faucet
Today's part will be very short because we keep the parts shorter in weekends and summer is officially around the corner (June on Monday)
The Register MS Has Just Published Fake Article That Mentions "AI" 23 Times. "Sponsored by Arm." It Does This Every Day.
A lot of the time we see this term everywhere in "the news" simply because slop pushers are paying for it
SQLite Under DDoS Attack by Slop Reports or Fake 'Bugs' (Just Like cURL and Many Other Projects)
Even Linus Torvalds is starting to talk about this
IBM: The B Turns From "Business" to "Bailouts" to "Buybacks" ("IBM is the Next Intel")
Trying to shore up the falling share price/stocks while veteran workers and Vice President (with high salaries) are cut off
Links 30/05/2026: More GAFAM (Amazon) Mass Layoffs, Peter Schiff Warns of Trillion-Dollar Slop Bubble Waiting to Implode
Links for the day
Slop is Plagiarism
Trillions of dollars down the drain, invested in a dud
Gemini Links 30/05/2026: Rehabilitation and Taming Emacs Cache and Temporary Files
Links for the day
Richard Stallman (RMS) Talks and Secure Transmission of Private Communications in Formats Everybody Can Access With Free Software
Maybe the FSF should step up a bit the campaign to use Free software to communicate with one another
General Consultative Committee (GCC) Discusses Working Conditions of Employees of the European Patent Office (EPO)
On the agenda: Salary Erosion Procedure, Breastfeeding Policy, New Amicale Framework, Public Holidays 2027
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 29, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, May 29, 2026
It's Friday Night Again, So Microsoft is Again Shelving (Under Weekend Lull) Nightmare News for XBox Staff
It did the same thing when the chiefs of XBox got canned
Links 29/05/2026: "Spyware Economy" and Cuba's Energy Crisis
Links for the day
Gemini Links 29/05/2026: Rap Rant and LLMs Criticised
Links for the day
Akira Urushibata on Misleading Numbers From Anthropic's Project Glasswing (False Marketing by FUD Tactics)
Posted yesterday and approved a short while ago
Censorship of Information Unflattering to IBM (or GAFAM)
Years ago we gave a platform to a censored Microsoft whistleblower
Silent Layoffs at Microsoft in 2026
Time will tell is there are investigative journalists out there who will quit parroting Microsoft (e.g. false layoff figures) and relying on LLMs controlled by Microsoft to spew out false "facts" for them
SLAPP Censorship - Part 91 Out of 200: Legal Aid in Support of Freedom of the Press and British Women (Attacked by Americans)
bolstered by prominent counsels
Codecs and Software Patents - Part XII - GNU's Web Site Will Soon Have Many Recent Talks by Chief GNUisance Richard Stallman (RMS)
GNU videos being transcoded or converted into AV1
[Video] Richard Stallman's Rapperswil (Switzerland) Talk Online
accessible without proprietary software
Trusting Trust is an Old Issue, Predating Rust and LLM Slop by Over Half a Century
Microsoft Lunduke wants to make a case against Rust and slop (LLMs), but the issues he addresses aren't exactly new or unique
California Should Have Abandoned So-called 'Age‑Verification Laws', Not Make Exemptions (for Now)
This has nothing to do with 1) children 2) safety 3) safety of children
Links 29/05/2026: Cory Doctorow on Why the Internet Feels So Broken, American Pope on Defederation
Links for the day
Techrights Does Not Censor Information About IBM, It Platforms and Retains Suppressed Voices From Inside IBM
They don't like it when people criticise the management [...] panic attacks mentioned
Bob (Robert) Cringely Devoted Three Years of His Life Trying to Profit From LLM Slop and Now He Sounds Off, It's Just Not Working and It Can Crash the Economy Soon
"The labs raising money at valuations with too many zeros are happy"
Techrights After About 60,000 Articles in 20 Years
Sites fail if they don't offer anything new or if they wrongly believe that adopting slop to parrot other sites will give them exposure
Organised Plunder or Robbery: GAFAM and Hardware Companies Rely on Media Bribery to Perpetuate False Narratives and to "Drive Sales" (and Drive Prices Upwards)
The price-fixing seems plausible and, if so, we need to demand action
Linux Foundation Destroys the Identity and History of Linux
Groklaw's PJ was thorn on the side of LF sponsors
The Problem of Microsoft Crimes
Opposing crime isn't "hatred"
The Fall of Slop (Even Microsoft Admits There's a Problem)
If Microsoft admits that slop is too expensive and is for "entertainment purposes" because it cannot be relied upon, why would anyone other than the pushers and profiteers still insist that slop bears potential?
Red Hat Will Die Inside a Dying IBM
IBM isn't where Red Hat came to thrive but where it came to die
Very Large Strike at the European Patent Office Today, "Production" Sank a Huge Deal
At this pace, we might be looking at tens of thousands fewer European Patents being granted this year
Gemini Links 29/05/2026: Leadership and Religion, the Board Game (Second Edition)
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 28, 2026
IRC logs for Thursday, May 28, 2026