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Some People Use Computers to Get Actual Work Done

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Jul 09, 2025

People who complain about Wayland are not "trolls". Earlier this year:

Wayland keeps crashing, what should i try?

1.5 months ago:

Wayland crashes randomly - Black screen. Page flip error

Tons more like the above can be found. It's not so unusual an experience.

They tell us Wayland is coming, is inevitable, and we must all change our workflows, rewrite the programs, and accept the "growing pains" of Wayland.

But why?

Must we?

No.

See, Wayland is promoted for reasons that aren't ours. Wayland is imposed on people to benefit the "Wayland Companies" with their "Wayland People".

X still works for me. It works for many people. It's not perfect. Nobody ever said it was perfect. However, owing to X generally being stable (or possible to correct with various tools) I can run my sessions without a reboot (which can cost a lot of time) for almost 2 years:

roy@vonick:~$ uptime
 04:26:57 up 638 days, 10:11, 37 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.33, 0.51

The above is my main laptop, this is the secondary one:

roy@bubi:~$ uptime
 04:27:50 up 572 days, 19:39,  3 users,  load average: 7.89, 7.35, 7.31

The uptime on my wife's PC is similar to this.

From what I have read, even the very latest Wayland (it had a new release some days ago) has compatibility issues and stability cannot be expected. Benchmarks with different machines and environments consistently show that Wayland performs more poorly than X, i.e. it slows things down and costs more energy.

Wayland might be OK for many people. There's no denying that the needs of people vary; to some, if Firefox in GNOME runs OK in Wayland (perhaps they use "webapps") and they reboot/shut down every day anyway, then Wayland isn't a deal breaker.

All the reasons people told me about (to adopt Wayland) aren't applicable to me. It's a "hard sell".

When people say Wayland improves security they conveniently ignore the various security bugs in Wayland itself (not counting the ones not found yet). It's a lot like "Rust People". They also ignore more critical security aspects, such as people uploading whole backups of their PCs to "the cloud", clicking on random phishing E-mails, and using a root password like "goodmorning123" with an open SSH port (at 22, default).

The most bothersome if not annoying thing is, the "Wayland People" try to portray people who are not interested in Wayland (they don't hate Wayland or "Wayland People", they're just disinterested) as "nazis" or worse. I saw words like "greybeards" a lot - that's just plain ageism.

Please let people get work done. Don't interfere with their workflow and don't blame programs they like and are accustomed to (asking them to change what works for them is rude). To use a simple analogy, if I said to my dad, stop using handwritten notes, use this expensive gadget that must be charged every day instead, he would likely tell me to mind my own business. Those notes work for him. What "Wayland People" try to do is forcibly take away paper and then demand adoption of gadgets (where there's no obvious practical benefit, only more risks).

Tolerance and inclusion must extend to acceptance that some people don't agree with you, might never agree with you, and imposing what allegedly works for you on them is unreasonable.

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