| tessier_ | It's time I started investigating kvm. It may be a year or so before I move any production over to it but it's time. Citrix bought Xensource, xen isn't yet in the kernel, RH is talking about their future with KVM...fortunately it's easy to switch out hypervisors. | Jun 24 01:09 |
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| ZiggyFish | schestowitz: are you there | Jun 24 01:32 |
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| ZiggyFish | HP open sources Advanced File System | Jun 24 03:33 |
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| schestowitz | I'm back. Some interesting private conversation I received by E-mail: | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | Here is an interesting slide show narrated by Gates. Note how he talks constantly about competition, and note, too, how he remarks that he was in a private school in 8th grade. | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fort... | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | This is the story of a man born a tyrannt with a silver spoon in his mouth. | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | He's just burning up media attention away from important issues and many security problems with his products. | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | I'd prefer coverage not be wasted on the botnet king as he transitions officially to politics. | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | Ensure access to your data in the future | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://opendocumentfellowship.com/a... | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | IMHO it is good to know some details as to his private, privileged life, for the purpose of dispelling the notion that Gates somehow cobbled together Microsoft by himself in his garage. He didn't. His dad funded it, along with his dad's super-wealthy friends. | Jun 24 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | The above is /NOT/ my words by the way. Here is some more that I've received moments ago It's interesting because some of this was unknown to me. | Jun 24 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | "And apparently his mom hooked him up with the IBM deal where he sold Qdos to IBM. That was IMHO his first and last business transaction, and not even his own. Every move since inheriting that monopoly has been to extend it using his college dropout skills of poker and Risk." | Jun 24 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | "I haven't looked in detail at the article, but have any given details about MS' main product: myths and dreams." | Jun 24 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | "Any techno-buddhists you can contact? It seems that the MS products (myth and dreams) cultivate desire, ignorance and, too often out of frustration, hate." | Jun 24 06:02 |
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| tessier | schestowitz: If you know of anyone in San Diego looking for someone with my skills who needs to fill a Director of IT or CTO type position or has a very interesting entrepreneurial opportunity let me know. I've just come onto the market. | Jun 24 06:10 |
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| tessier | http://tracyreed.org/the-r... | Jun 24 06:11 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks, will definitely make a mental note. I've personally been immersed in this exploration of FOSS, which is clearly the future. See: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqui... "ACCORDING TO A memo circulating a few weeks ago, it looks like Intel is taking a wise decision and avoiding the Broken OS entirely. Yes, Intel is not going to use Vista on its corporate machines... ever....Linux is a distinct possibil | Jun 24 06:12 |
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| schestowitz | ity, they already have an in-house distro" | Jun 24 06:12 |
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| tessier | schestowitz: Nice! | Jun 24 06:13 |
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| schestowitz | It's shocking because of what Paul O has been saying. I've been following what AMD and Intel said since the start. This latest one is a HUGE blow to Microsoft. | Jun 24 06:14 |
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| schestowitz | Hypothetical: "What, /you/ *didn't* reject Vista? Even Intel rejected it" | Jun 24 06:15 |
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| schestowitz | (Linux Kernel Developers Call for Open Source Drivers - Weakly) http://technocrat.net/d/2008/6/23/44265: "And after that, there's the fact that Linus "I hate politics so much that I refuse to deal with it" Torvalds hasn't signed the statement. [...] I just wish that the kernel developers could lead with less equivocation." | Jun 24 06:28 |
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| schestowitz | Comeone in BN has just posted this: http://nagyorgy.uw.hu/ | Jun 24 09:28 |
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| PetoKraus | lol | Jun 24 09:35 |
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| schestowitz | Have you played the game yet? | Jun 24 09:38 |
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| PetoKraus | yes | Jun 24 09:43 |
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| PetoKraus | :) | Jun 24 09:43 |
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| PetoKraus | 1040 points :D | Jun 24 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | I never played more than once, so I can't remember the score. I wonder if Ballmer has played it (or maybe he forbids himself and his kids from using Silverlight's rival, just like those iPods and Google). | Jun 24 09:50 |
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| tessier | That's the website of the dude who threw the eggs? | Jun 24 10:13 |
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| tessier | I kinda wish he had just sat there quietly with a sign. :| | Jun 24 10:13 |
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| tessier | Or at least egged Ballmer in the hallway on his way in or something. | Jun 24 10:13 |
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| tessier | Hit him and then get away. | Jun 24 10:13 |
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| tessier | Instead he did it from across a room where he was likely to miss and he was in the middle of the room where he was easily nabbed by authorities and had to slink out. | Jun 24 10:14 |
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| tessier | Embarrassing. | Jun 24 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | The suits were not impressed (nor was Ballmer suit, which he later said in an interview was the reason he ducked behind the tables... you know, the stains). The incident was a win because it drew attention to the story of possible corruption in Hungary. | Jun 24 10:18 |
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| schestowitz | Welcome, lis'. | Jun 24 14:03 |
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| lis` | t | Jun 24 14:04 |
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| schestowitz | Watch Microsoft Jack: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2... . A friend of mine sent me this by E-mail : 'It gets even more hysterical... "Lotus was actually acting at the behest of those masters of monopoly abuse, IBM"' | Jun 24 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | WOW!! "Nokia Buys Rest of Symbian, Will Make Code Open Source" ( http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti... ) | Jun 24 14:31 |
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| PetoKraus | good stuff | Jun 24 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | What will they do with Meamo (Linux, X, GTK+other stuff), Qt, etc.? What's their plan? Remember that they are pro-DRM, so I wonder if they want a surrogate to GPL, with something like Qt on top... | Jun 24 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | *Maemo | Jun 24 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | I need help finding out about the licence... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/0... ... can't find much info. | Jun 24 14:45 |
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| schestowitz | Okay... quick thought as I read on: my first instinct is to say that they want to do something similar to Microsoft, essentially pulling FOSS together (inc. Qt) to run on a platform that's less libre, i.e. replace the bottom stack with Symbian, a la Vista DRM trap and all... the announcement came later, but I don't know what was said. We'll find out soon. | Jun 24 14:48 |
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| kentma | I don't know much about the eclipse licence. | Jun 24 14:49 |
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| PetoKraus | hmm | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | When Stallman crwtaed GNU he wanted a UNIX that's libre; not they do the opposite: create a GNU/Linux replacement with restriction (like CDDL, for control). | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| PetoKraus | it makes SOME code open-source | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| PetoKraus | not all code | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| PetoKraus | that's important thing i didn't notice | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, the report I see were leaked. Embargoed info prematurely out... | Jun 24 14:50 |
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| PetoKraus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... | Jun 24 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | Eclipse is very IBMmy. | Jun 24 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | It's not very libre at all, IIRC. | Jun 24 14:51 |
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| PetoKraus | well | Jun 24 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | Reddit and Facebook recently threw out portions under CPAL, which is equally (or more) stupid. It's a PR thing. They try to counter Google (OHA.Android) which uses Apache. | Jun 24 14:52 |
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| PetoKraus | CPAL? | Jun 24 14:53 |
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| PetoKraus | ah, yet-another-attribution-license | Jun 24 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | Apropos: http://www.heise.de/english/news... | Jun 24 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Interesting: http://radar.oreilly.com/archive... ( Nokia Acquires Plazes To Be Ovi's New Mapping App ) | Jun 24 15:38 |
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| PetoKraus | this day is completely unusual | Jun 24 16:19 |
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| PetoKraus | the new kde4.1b2 looks good | Jun 24 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | Seigo seems excited yesterday "Are we there yet?..." | Jun 24 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | *seemed | Jun 24 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | New Ubuntu on the way also: 8.04.1 (finally making up for the premature LTS mistake) | Jun 24 16:23 |
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| kentma | well, you only have to look at how long it takes the debian guys to get a release out... | Jun 24 16:37 |
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| PetoKraus | but it is stable. | Jun 24 16:37 |
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| kentma | oh, I agree... I'm a big debian fan, myself :-) | Jun 24 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | Lenny is near. | Jun 24 16:38 |
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| kentma | So's my No2 kid, who's just got home - I can hear the banging downstairs :-D | Jun 24 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Just don't call #3 and #4 Sid and Woody. | Jun 24 16:42 |
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| PetoKraus | well Sid will be always the unstable one | Jun 24 16:44 |
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| PetoKraus | so the youngest... if you please | Jun 24 16:45 |
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| PetoKraus | Sid - still in development | Jun 24 16:45 |
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| kentma | hehe ;-) | Jun 24 16:48 |
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| Eruaran | hello guys | Jun 24 16:50 |
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| kentma | hi | Jun 24 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | <Eruaran>, what's your take on Nokia+Symbian? | Jun 24 16:55 |
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| Eruaran | I think they're hedging their bets | Jun 24 16:57 |
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| Eruaran | For whatever reasons they, like a lot of companies seem to want to have one foot in free software and one foot in proprietary software. | Jun 24 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | They must. Look at Sun. | Jun 24 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | Just spotted: Sun Screwed Up on Free Software, Says Sun ( http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/... ) | Jun 24 16:59 |
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| kentma | Big companies like Nokia have a massive investment in the proprietary models, and need to "walk back slowly" in order to migrate to new business models and away from the old ones. | Jun 24 16:59 |
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| Eruaran | kentma: yes, and perhaps not scare the shareholders at the same time | Jun 24 17:00 |
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| kentma | Eruaran: agreed - they need to present a picture of controlled migration, not an apparent chaotic panic move to a new model. | Jun 24 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | I've come to the conclusion that the plan the big vendors have is to demote and marginalise FSF, elevating LF instead. My recent posts about IBM's involvement concur. | Jun 24 17:04 |
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| kentma | As the person who took my $employer into OSDL, I would point out that for at least one (nameless) corporate, that's not true... | Jun 24 17:04 |
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| Eruaran | LF ? | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| kentma | Linux foundatio - ex Open Source Development Labs | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| Eruaran | ah | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | Linux Foundation. A few minutes ago in the phoronix channel people mentioned boycottnovell. I'll paste this here: | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> please, don't ban JAde | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> the guy is hilarious | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> wtf is JAde | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> Jade, a poster on the phoronix forums | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Exopaladin> argh, probably the worst thing about gentoo is when I realise I want a package in a hurry that happens to take ages to compile | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> athewk, Jade's banters get really annoying after a while. It's like listening to the village idiot. It starts to where a persons patience thin. | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> *wear | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> be strong | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> direction your passion towards writing the open source ati driver | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> s/direction/direct | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> instead of fighting with the village idiot | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> Na, I just put him on my forums ignore list. To bad it doesn't allow to ignore thread | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> I have no doubt that they do | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> I'm just fascinated by the depth of the man's paranoia | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <athewk> if paranoia is the right term to describe it | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> show me a thread... please | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <michaellarabel> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showth... | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <michaellarabel> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showth... | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> red on gray, difficult to read... | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <vadi2> Haha, you guys titled him "The Conspiracist" | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <redeeman> athewk: some of what he writes is true | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <vadi2> he must be one of the guys behind http://boycottnovell.com/ :) | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <redeeman> you believe novells deal was a good thing? | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <vadi2> I didn't claim a single thing :) | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <michaellarabel> Vadi2: Schestowitz is the boycott novell creator | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <vadi2> ah | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> Ya he's had to retract quite a few things as well | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> damn is this guy related to that woman or what... | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> how is this a general linux discussion? | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <cxo> its a venture into the private life of some linux dev... | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> rantings of a moron | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <maligor> a stalker | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <maligor> instead of beautiful women, he targets a linux kernel developer | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <Deanjo> Although he did actually post one semi-intelligent post recently | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | <schestowitz> <michaellarabel>, I would have never ca | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| Eruaran | I think Stallman scared them still :p | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| Eruaran | *scares | Jun 24 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | He's scary to those who absorb the media's portrayal. | Jun 24 17:06 |
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| schestowitz | Media = "Gates is a saint; Stallman is Marx" | Jun 24 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | That is of course the media is commercial. That who pays the check receives the praise. | Jun 24 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | At the moment, Gates is 'buying' some self-glorifying and whitewashing articles from his press (=sympathy machine). Got to rewrite history fast! Corrupt and shameless, even before 'retirement'. | Jun 24 17:07 |
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| Eruaran | I didn't realise they had an irc channel | Jun 24 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | Gates owns a lot of the media. Fact. Journalists who are not bought should stop learning from other bought journalists and spend more time reading court documents. | Jun 24 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | <Eruaran>: stay here, still. ;-) | Jun 24 17:08 |
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| Eruaran | you reckon if I just sit there and listen they'll whois me and start getting nasty ? :P | Jun 24 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | *gasp* No, why would they? | Jun 24 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | But I find the channel to be very childish and rude. Some racial slurs at times, at least from the verbose crowd. | Jun 24 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | Just been notified about Microsoft Jack... on the Lotus IBM monopoly .. someone said Jack had deleted the archive .. but he sounds exactly like Eric Funkenbusch from Munchkin Fame... must be reading the same hyme book, I'm told... | Jun 24 17:11 |
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| Eruaran | In an irc channel ? no... :O | Jun 24 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, there are some gamers there, they rest are polite and quiet, including me, Michael and others whom I know. | Jun 24 17:12 |
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| kentma | If we keep telling the truth, then in the end, we'll be heard. | Jun 24 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | Well, first we need to 'overthrow' some puppets in MSBBC to make it BBC (and make MSNBC an NBS again... you get the point). Did you get the mail I sent you this morning? | Jun 24 17:16 |
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| Eruaran | Is anyone here familiar with Lazarus ? | Jun 24 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | The Advanced Guestbook derivative? I have it installed. | Jun 24 17:34 |
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| Eruaran | The IDE | Jun 24 17:35 |
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| Eruaran | I guess not :P | Jun 24 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | I read about it the other day. | Jun 24 17:57 |
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| Eruaran | I might download it and have a look at it | Jun 24 17:58 |
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| Eruaran | I have a friend who is a Delphi fan, and in the distant past I did some basic Turbo Pascal... | Jun 24 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | Delphi might return to Linux (recent news). I'll grab the link. | Jun 24 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | I did Pascal when I was 15 or so. | Jun 24 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | Weeks ago: http://www.businessreviewonline.com/o... ( CodeGear adamant it will keep the faith ) | Jun 24 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | FTA: "One user asked, “Does the platform independent streak mean we may see a return of Delphi for Linux?”, to which Williams answered, “I'm still getting my head around a lot of these things. Platform independence is critical, so the concept of targeting multiple operating systems is certainly one we invest in R&D to service.”" | Jun 24 18:02 |
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| kentma | There was a delphi port to Linux a long time ago. | Jun 24 18:17 |
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| Eruaran | Kylix ? | Jun 24 18:17 |
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| kentma | To be honest, it seemed to lack the kind of polish which Turbo C and Turbo Pascal had had on DOS. Yeah, kylix sounds right. I might even still have the Cd around somewhere. | Jun 24 18:18 |
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| Eruaran | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008... | Jun 24 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | Headed by John Zemlin? | Jun 24 18:24 |
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| Eruaran | John or Jim ? | Jun 24 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | John. James is at the Linux Foundation. I was joking. The name just stood out... as though they tried to do what was predicated... undermine the GPLv2-licensed Linux. | Jun 24 18:27 |
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| Eruaran | I'd like to see Solaris go GPLv3 | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| Eruaran | Then Linus might budge | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | 'Open'Solaris? | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| Eruaran | yes | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, he would. Same with Marton. | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | I could find the ML discussion. | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| RogerBacon | hey guy's | Jun 24 18:29 |
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| Eruaran | hi | Jun 24 18:29 |
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| Eruaran | I think I've read it | Jun 24 18:29 |
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| RogerBacon | i just waked up ;) | Jun 24 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | I know some people who are already upset at Linus for choosing Power over Freedom, just like IBM, HP, Intel and other funders of his desire. | Jun 24 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | Howdy, <RogerBacon>! | Jun 24 18:30 |
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| RogerBacon | as long as the kernel is open source i dont care | Jun 24 18:30 |
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| RogerBacon | since we have the choice of what linux disrtib to use | Jun 24 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, but earlier I saw an interetsing discussion about this. | Jun 24 18:31 |
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| Eruaran | ok | Jun 24 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | If we adopt a kernel filled with blobs, then we have no true control over it. There's lock-in, too. | Jun 24 18:32 |
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| Eruaran | What kind of blobs ? | Jun 24 18:32 |
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| RogerBacon | did the kernel have some not-sure-if-its-really-open-source- because-of-the-reverse-engeniring ? | Jun 24 18:32 |
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| RogerBacon | (some sort of wi-fi driver) | Jun 24 18:33 |
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| Eruaran | Just say no to software patents. | Jun 24 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | That too. | Jun 24 18:34 |
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| schestowitz | <RogerBacon>, NVIdia is a big target now. | Jun 24 18:34 |
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| schestowitz | See http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-997... and http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-... | Jun 24 18:35 |
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| RogerBacon | oh well ... just figured somethig out when i compiled my first kernel yesturday | Jun 24 18:36 |
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| Eruaran | I'm not sure they should bother | Jun 24 18:36 |
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| RogerBacon | the video driver are in the kernel | Jun 24 18:36 |
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| RogerBacon | .... | Jun 24 18:36 |
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| Eruaran | Market forces will push Nvidia to open its drivers anyway | Jun 24 18:36 |
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| RogerBacon | and when you add closed-source driver they are added via modules into the kernel | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | They will. | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| RogerBacon | via modprobe ? | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| RogerBacon | i have a readon 9200 so ... ;) | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | Well, Michael Larabel and I spoke about this several times before. | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | ATI will open up further, as well. It's looking good for X!!11 | Jun 24 18:38 |
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| Eruaran | yes | Jun 24 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | Tell NASA to boycott the blobs. ;-) | Jun 24 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | They use a lot of Linux+NVIDIA combos. | Jun 24 18:39 |
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| RogerBacon | they use alot of fedora box | Jun 24 18:40 |
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| Eruaran | I use a linux nvidia combo :/ | Jun 24 18:40 |
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| Eruaran | linvidia ? | Jun 24 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. Yes, <RogerBacon>, I was going to add that but you beat me to it. Fedora is their thing... and RHEL. They also have some SGI clusters, IIRC, with SU$E. | Jun 24 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | NASA ditches Itanic for new Xeon-based SGI [Linux] giant http://www.theregister.co.uk/200... | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Fedora on the Final Frontier http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/200... | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Google's Schmidt: NASA should collaborate with public http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?... | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| RogerBacon | Microsoft Deleted Windows Interoperability Documents, Feds Say | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Penguins in space: NASA picks open source for lunar mission http://blogs.the451group.com/opensourc... | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| RogerBacon | http://www.informationweek.com/ne... | Jun 24 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Interview: The driver behind NASA's Mars Rovers http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/in... "... Linux boxes sport bonzer NVIDIA graphics cards. ..." | Jun 24 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | NASA tests Linux for spacecraft control http://www.linuxdevices.com/ne... | Jun 24 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | At NASA, Windows Vista Isn't Ready For Launch http://www.informationweek.com/news/s... | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | NASA tests Linux-based planetary surface exploration robots http://www.linuxdevices.com/new... | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | Young Scientists Design Open-Source Program at NASA http://www.wired.com/science/... | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| RogerBacon | wait, why windows is no used for space mission ? | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| Eruaran | Have to get going and get some sleep before morning | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| Eruaran | cyas | Jun 24 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | <RogerBacon>: it's too risky. Some time on the trip to Mars the WGA servers might go offline for a night or two. | Jun 24 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | <Eruaran>, see you soon. | Jun 24 18:47 |
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| RogerBacon | schestowitz : but ... but ... on vista you have the UAC | Jun 24 18:48 |
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| RogerBacon | that's better than Selinux no ? :P | Jun 24 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Is the User (in UAC) on the spacecraft/explorer? | Jun 24 18:48 |
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| RogerBacon | Norton antivirus block the space-spam too ! | Jun 24 18:49 |
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| RogerBacon | yep ;) | Jun 24 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | OpenBSD and other BSDs are good too. They are more scientific; more robust and disciplined. | Jun 24 18:49 |
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| RogerBacon | FreeBSD is one of my fav operating system | Jun 24 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | Well, 40% of the Windows PCs out there are zombies, so.... | Jun 24 18:50 |
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| RogerBacon | space bot-net ;) | Jun 24 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | It was funny when Pfiezer PCs and entire hospitals became part of a botnet. Same with the US government... maybe the Pentagon too. | Jun 24 18:50 |
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| RogerBacon | i will like to see the reaction of the guy's who monitor spam traffic to block it f:) | Jun 24 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | IPv6 has some bits allocated to planet, there's some for earth (number 60, IIRC?) | Jun 24 18:51 |
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| PetoKraus | http://tech.slashdot.org/art... | Jun 24 19:19 |
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| schestowitz | I caught some logs of their a few years back. Wanna see? | Jun 24 19:23 |
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| PetoKraus | do you guys know where to rotate picture by some degrees in gimp? | Jun 24 19:48 |
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| PetoKraus | ah, found it! | Jun 24 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | There's also the toolset, not just a menu item. | Jun 24 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | The transition from 1.2 to 2 was hard for me. Different UI and menus going crazy (hierarchy). | Jun 24 19:56 |
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