| schestowitz | Bush to Push Free Trade at Upcoming Economic Summit < http://voanews.com/english/2008-10... > Sensationalism won’t save the economy. 10+ trillion in debt renders the system stuck in a roadblock. Time for a major rethink. Presidential elections won’t change much when corporations run the government. Greenspan Admits Errors in Rejecting Financial Regulation < http://i1.democracynow.org/2008/10/2... > | Oct 26 00:02 |
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| tessier | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/m... | Oct 26 00:04 |
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| tessier | Still not quite a victory though. Windows is still growing, it's just that the growth has slowed. | Oct 26 00:04 |
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| tessier | I'm looking forward to seeing a contraction. | Oct 26 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: I will post contradictions tomorrow. I ran out of time today. Keep an eye on BN. | Oct 26 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | One key point: they turn savings into acquisitions, i.e. revenue and artificial growth. Apple now has more money than Microsoft. It's easy to turn savings to sales... but for how long? Windows suffers. | Oct 26 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/24/... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/23... | Oct 26 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader... ( Microsoft: Client Revs Whiff; Blame The Rise of Netbooks; Reduced Guidance Reflects Anticipated Recession) | Oct 26 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.adjb.net/post/Standard... "You are well aware that many persons did that, joined committees and they expected their contributions to get considered. They didn't knew that rule-bending and voting against valid issues via committee stuffing would be common pratice. Thanks to mailing lists and blogs they found out that their own ISO national committee was not an exception in the business of crazy tak | Oct 26 01:06 |
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| schestowitz | eover. Who would want to contribute if their contributions get ignored?" | Oct 26 01:06 |
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| twitter | Ah, here's the BB Nasty you were looking at. He's been at this same angle for about a year. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entde... | Oct 26 01:13 |
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| twitter | and people accuse Slashdot of running dupes. This guy's got like 8 articles deriding "conspiracy theorists" | Oct 26 01:14 |
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| schestowitz | 8? I rebutted about 4. | Oct 26 01:15 |
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| schestowitz | Here's a 'conspiracy': http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php | Oct 26 01:16 |
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| schestowitz | "Now we know. Watch out for Nokia. Microsoft suddenly likes the Eclipse Foundation too. Here's the very smooth Sam Ramji on the subject. "It's all about the developer," he says. Well, not if you're an end user. End users benefit from the GPL and we know it. There's a project regarding Eclipse tools for Silverlight now. Just what you were hoping for." | Oct 26 01:16 |
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| schestowitz | "Not. It was probably predictable when Ward Cunningham left Microsoft to join Eclipse years ago. I believe it's all part of Microsoft's hatred for the GPL, its determination to kill it off and make everyone use BSD-like licenses instead (so it can proprietize whatever it pleases).." | Oct 26 01:17 |
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| schestowitz | "...and its determination to redefine Open Source to mean visible code that Microsoft controls through patents instead of copyright. If you are stupid, you'll help them. Thanks for nothing, Nokia. Licenses matter, as this latest shift should tell you in clear strokes" Well, obviously. I wrote about Symbian as swpats and DRM yesterday (or the day before) | Oct 26 01:17 |
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| twitter | Do a google search for BB and Boycott Novell and count the results if you want a more accurate number. I've got 4 slam jobs in my poison pen list. | Oct 26 01:18 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe it's being more abrasive that gets BN scrutinized | Oct 26 01:19 |
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| twitter | Not all of them are about you. He's blithered in general, without naming targets. | Oct 26 01:20 |
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| twitter | I think he wants controversy and traffic. | Oct 26 01:20 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: he wrote them in response to events without naming them. It's the timing... lesson inhistory. | Oct 26 01:21 |
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| twitter | I don't think he's worth worrying about. How many people visiting Linux.com want to read articles about troll wars and flaks? | Oct 26 01:22 |
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| twitter | Most would be offended by his GL slams. | Oct 26 01:23 |
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| twitter | and his very big head. | Oct 26 01:23 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know. His blog though got in over a year what BN gets in 3 days. | Oct 26 01:23 |
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| epicFi | just wanted to pop in and say I support you guys 100%... | Oct 26 06:45 |
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| epicFi | thanks for the hard work | Oct 26 06:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/2008102... .. Gutierrez suggested that you "need" the stick to make the conversations work. [PJ: Is this a confession from Microsoft that no one wants to work with Microsoft if it can avoid it?] | Oct 26 08:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/columnists/doub... "As far as I can tell, Microsoft just wants its competitors to pay it money every time they breathe out. So next time you hear about "interoperability", just bring up the patent issue.." | Oct 26 08:21 |
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| schestowitz | GPL FUD arrives at CNET (from ZeeDeeNet): http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10075085-94.html?p... | Oct 26 08:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/10/... '"This is a disaster," Ken Balcomb, a senior scientist at the Center for Whale Research on San Juan Island, said Friday. "The population drop is worse than the stock market."' | Oct 26 09:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/B... '"Intolerant" is one of those P Correct mysto-words that the Micro-Cult Elite Evangelical Hit Squad like to employ to confuse opposing argument.' | Oct 26 10:08 |
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| schestowitz | More libel in linux.com (comments), accusing of sock-puppetry where someone merely tried to comment in BN, entered moderation and then tried again with a different nick. They are making stuff up to discredit. sigh* | Oct 26 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/10/24/micr... 'Xbox 360 and PC game revenue decreased by 22%, which the company attributed in part to the absence of a blockbuster like last year's "Halo 3."' | Oct 26 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | Vapourware gossip generated: "Microsoft starts another Windows 7 blog" < http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1660 > | Oct 26 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of more positive coverage of Microsoft's results comes from the Microsoft-fanboyish like Ina Fried and Richard Waters: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4bceaa84-a... | Oct 26 10:48 |
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| schestowitz | The Microsoft-friendly FORTUNE MAGAZINE (they are the ones who announced initially Linux FUD in May 2007) are Slogging Yahoo http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/23/magazines/fort... | Oct 26 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | Ben Worthen also does the his sucking up to Microsoft: http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/10/2... | Oct 26 11:15 |
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| schestowitz | Enderle is throwing some cellphone 'articles' in some more sites, denying the death of Windows mobile, despite claims to the contrary from some very major sites, even PBS and the NYT. | Oct 26 11:15 |
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| tessier | That Cringely article about the death of Windows mobile was great | Oct 26 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | There are some more. Hold on. | Oct 26 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | This new one: iPhone 2.x Beats Windows Mobile 6.x into Coma < http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/desktop... > | Oct 26 11:30 |
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| schestowitz | "Windows Mobile's star is rapidly falling. Coming into 2008, RIM pushed Microsoft out of second place for smart phone operating systems, according to Gartner. Apple has surely knocked Microsoft into fourth place. The question: Is it fourth behind RIM or Apple? That depends on whether Apple snatched second place from RIM." | Oct 26 11:30 |
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| schestowitz | Last week: Why Windows Mobile Is In Trouble < http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/1... > | Oct 26 11:30 |
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| schestowitz | Last month: Windows Mobile misses annual shipment target < http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsof... > | Oct 26 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Hides Its Mobile and Business Apps Divisions < http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,19... >; Cryptome: NSA has access to Windows Mobile smartphones < http://blogs.securiteam.com/ind... > | Oct 26 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | Richard Waters' bias again: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c05253ec-a163... | Oct 26 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft employee admits switching to a Mac < http://news.cnet.com/8301-178... > | Oct 26 11:33 |
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| schestowitz | Funny headline: Microsoft RMS Supports Bixolon SRP-350plus Printer < http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/1... > | Oct 26 11:45 |
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| _Doug | Keanu Reeves ... Klaatu .. | Oct 26 13:17 |
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| _Doug | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0970416/ | Oct 26 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | Aliens come to Earth? What for? The economy is better in Mars. | Oct 26 13:22 |
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| _Doug | to save the humans :) | Oct 26 13:23 |
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| schestowitz | Is that the {Next Hollywood Fantasy}^TM? | Oct 26 13:24 |
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| schestowitz | Nice. I just got an E-mail from 1980. | Oct 26 13:25 |
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| schestowitz | It was SPAM. Deleted now. | Oct 26 13:25 |
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| _Doug | is an old fantasy .. aliens coming to save the earth .. | Oct 26 13:25 |
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| schestowitz | Earth and human civilisation are not the same thing although the latter tends to view the former that way. | Oct 26 13:26 |
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| _Doug | it's a self serving fantasy .. a bit like star trek .. every week the USS enterprise visits another planet and teaches them the benefits of earth-market- capitalism .. | Oct 26 13:27 |
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| _Doug | for earth read the USA .. | Oct 26 13:28 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 26 13:31 |
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| _Doug | Democracy in action .. | Oct 26 13:38 |
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| _Doug | http://www.youtube.com/v/KdNgMKPV9xQ | Oct 26 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | Yes. | Oct 26 13:41 |
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| _Doug | Would anyone know that Ralph Nadar is running .. | Oct 26 13:41 |
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| schestowitz | Sarah and John... these people to lead the strongest nations? Oh Lordy. | Oct 26 13:41 |
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| schestowitz | _Doug: stop confusing them. :-) People like vanilla and chocolate. Make it bi-polars. | Oct 26 13:42 |
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| _Doug | yea .. not like that 'intellectual' Obama :) | Oct 26 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | All candidates are bad. | Oct 26 13:43 |
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| schestowitz | Well, assuming you can vote for just 2. | Oct 26 13:44 |
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| schestowitz | Nader... the JavaFX of politics. | Oct 26 13:44 |
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| _Doug | voters blamed for voting machine glitches .. | Oct 26 13:46 |
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| _Doug | http://blog.wired.com/27bstro... | Oct 26 13:46 |
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| schestowitz | Vista users blamed for Vista problems. | Oct 26 13:47 |
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| _Doug | you got it !!! | Oct 26 13:48 |
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| schestowitz | AKA "Mojave Experiment" (ridicule your customer) | Oct 26 13:50 |
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| trmanco | http://marc.info/?l=linu... | Oct 26 13:54 |
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| trmanco | Linux 2.6.27.4 | Oct 26 13:54 |
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| _Doug | ot: the economic crisis explained .. | Oct 26 14:00 |
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| _Doug | http://www.correntewire.com... | Oct 26 14:00 |
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| _Doug | computer cases .. http://www.gobossy.com/computer-cases/ | Oct 26 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | I thought it was a Software Fault. Alan said so... | Oct 26 14:07 |
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| _Doug | Greenspan: bad data hurt our computer models .. | Oct 26 14:09 |
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| _Doug | http://www.nytimes.com/external/idg... | Oct 26 14:09 |
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| _Doug | "The whole intellectual edifice, however, collapsed in the summer of last year because the data inputted into the risk management models generally covered only the past two decades a period of euphoria." | Oct 26 14:09 |
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| _Doug | translation: we don't know what the fuck we are on about .. | Oct 26 14:10 |
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| _Doug | "Cox also pointed to .. a decision that essentially outsourced regulatory duties to Wall Street firms themselves" | Oct 26 14:11 |
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| _Doug | cops ask crooks to regulate themselves .. | Oct 26 14:11 |
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| _Doug | blame the computer ... :) | Oct 26 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | Idifice? | Oct 26 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | Did he mean orifice? | Oct 26 14:12 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft/analysts: MSFT is down because ti's Patch Tuesday. | Oct 26 14:12 |
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| _Doug | NYSE install "circuit breaker" .. | Oct 26 14:13 |
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| _Doug | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.d... | Oct 26 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | You misspelled "Circus" ;-) | Oct 26 14:15 |
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| _Doug | how about not 'trading' in worthless 'instruments' ... | Oct 26 14:15 |
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| _Doug | Microsoft Travelport to help airline industry .. | Oct 26 14:17 |
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| _Doug | http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/1540... | Oct 26 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | Anything 'funny' there? | Oct 26 14:20 |
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| _Doug | acquisitions .. has the PC business peaked ? | Oct 26 14:22 |
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| _Doug | ot: Yankee fan ejected for taking a leak during 'God Bless America' .. | Oct 26 14:22 |
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| _Doug | http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/unions/fo... | Oct 26 14:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://wcbstv.com/local/yankees... | Oct 26 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | " A Queens man is considering legal action against the New York Yankees after he was ejected from Tuesday night's contest against the Boston Red Sox for trying to use the restroom during the playing of "God Bless America."" | Oct 26 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | With Sarah Plain in reign, he would get the chair maybe... | Oct 26 14:31 |
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| _Doug | credit card defaulters homes seized .. | Oct 26 14:37 |
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| _Doug | http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/bus... | Oct 26 14:37 |
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| _Doug | The caring sharing listening bank .. :) | Oct 26 14:37 |
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| schestowitz | What does Alan say? | Oct 26 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | Dirty data? | Oct 26 14:40 |
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| _Doug | blame the tech department .. | Oct 26 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | Well, I don't think that's what he said frankly. | Oct 26 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | But they admit a failure they can't be liable for. | Oct 26 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | Like David Gerard wrote in his blog, "oops lol" | Oct 26 14:51 |
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| _Doug | interesting graphical site .. | Oct 26 14:53 |
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| _Doug | http://mapper.nndb.com/start/ | Oct 26 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | Needs JS | Oct 26 14:55 |
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| GoblinRFD | hello all | Oct 26 14:56 |
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| _Doug | so, install it ... | Oct 26 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | I get an error. Check out their logo/favicon. Looks like Novell | Oct 26 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | hey, GoblinRFD | Oct 26 14:56 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ive meant to come here for a long time. Well done with your efforts! | Oct 26 14:56 |
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| GoblinRFD | Keep up the good work | Oct 26 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Oct 26 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | I have 3 large posts coming. | Oct 26 14:57 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ive read alot of blog slagging you off, so you must be doing something right!!!! | Oct 26 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | Where did you see it? | Oct 26 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | In Bruce's insult? There's history to this dispute, but he didn't disclose it. | Oct 26 14:58 |
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| GoblinRFD | It was a link from linux.com I think... | Oct 26 14:58 |
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| GoblinRFD | i got there from a link of a link on WFTL bytes | Oct 26 14:59 |
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| GoblinRFD | i think | Oct 26 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, the 'revenge' piece. | Oct 26 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | I love WFTL. It's funny. | Oct 26 14:59 |
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| GoblinRFD | can I ask, have you ever heard of a guy called: Benton D'Struckshin? | Oct 26 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | No, who is this? | Oct 26 15:00 |
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| schestowitz | 2 results: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&num | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| GoblinRFD | just a guy I argued with on MS watch. | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| GoblinRFD | I just wanted to know if he had some MS connection. | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | Username: Portuno_Diamo ; Real Name: Benton D'Struckshin | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| GoblinRFD | yep thats him | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| GoblinRFD | he goes by many names. | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: I'll post a detailed analysis to debunk the PR idiocy. | Oct 26 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | ...about Microsoft so-called 'success'.. | Oct 26 15:02 |
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| _Doug | later ... | Oct 26 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | MS Watch is part of the problem. | Oct 26 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | _Doug: l8r | Oct 26 15:02 |
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| GoblinRFD | bye | Oct 26 15:02 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah MS watch is dire. | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | MS analysts | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Wilcox... | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| GoblinRFD | Its become more pro-linux recently than Linux watch though. | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Made money writing about MS for years... | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Jupiter | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: the comments or the posts? | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| GoblinRFD | Im thinking both | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | There's someone called "chips" there who trolls Joe | Oct 26 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Joe readjusts for the audience. | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah he seems alright, hes pro open source | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | No, he's not. | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| GoblinRFD | isnt he? | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | He said bad things before. | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | "You get what you pay for" | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| GoblinRFD | chips? | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | Unless a thunder struck him | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| GoblinRFD | i think there are two chips users. | Oct 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 26 15:05 |
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| GoblinRFD | I think I read him mentioning it before | Oct 26 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | May Jo is better. | Oct 26 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | Quite boring as of later though. | Oct 26 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | Not much happening in MS land, product-wise | Oct 26 15:05 |
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| GoblinRFD | I had an argument with Benton, and to be honest his knowledge about MS and related issues is way above mine. H | Oct 26 15:06 |
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| GoblinRFD | Im just a coder, not a financial/contract expert | Oct 26 15:07 |
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| GoblinRFD | I cant work out what he is meaning by....."Two notable works citing 6826744 are patents by IBM for machine constructed software and Microsoft for automated simulation of generated software. That's right. Dinky little VCSY has such IP as a foundation." | Oct 26 15:08 |
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| GoblinRFD | do you have a clue about this? | Oct 26 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | Benton? | Oct 26 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | Os that a real name? | Oct 26 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | *Is | Oct 26 15:10 |
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| GoblinRFD | Yeah it was part of Bentons argument | Oct 26 15:10 |
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| GoblinRFD | and im not sure if Benton is his real name. | Oct 26 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | IBM is still part of the patent problem. | Oct 26 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | And yet, IBM won't attack developers of free software, whereas Microsoft might. It's still intimidating. | Oct 26 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | IBM could go nasty as well (maybe even Sun) it its survival depended on it, but the management isn't scummy, so I tend to doubt it. | Oct 26 15:12 |
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| GoblinRFD | this may sound thick, but how? I have assisted on opensource projects, s/ | Oct 26 15:13 |
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| GoblinRFD | and I just cant understand how MS or IBM could threaten opensource. | Oct 26 15:13 |
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| GoblinRFD | the reason Im asking is that I am new to the legal theory behind it. | Oct 26 15:14 |
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| GoblinRFD | I have never paid it any interest in the past and just kept "doing my thing" | Oct 26 15:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | so all these debates by the likes of Benton about the end of opensource are pretty alien to me. | Oct 26 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | What context did that appear under? | Oct 26 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | Companies try to prevent software from being free by changing the laws. | Oct 26 15:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ill give you the link (its a looong thread!) | Oct 26 15:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/desktop_mo... | Oct 26 15:16 |
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| GoblinRFD | btw yes, the Goblin whos posting is me. | Oct 26 15:17 |
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| GoblinRFD | and Benton is posting as portuno_diamo | Oct 26 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | portuno_diamo keeps posting a mess | Oct 26 15:19 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah I thought as much, he tries to hide his point with flowery writing | Oct 26 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't it copied and pasted. | Oct 26 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | There are some bad chars there. | Oct 26 15:21 |
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| GoblinRFD | maybe. It would explain alot. | Oct 26 15:21 |
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| GoblinRFD | the other shill there "Andre Da Costa" is very good at copy and paste | Oct 26 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | What do they paste? MS PR? | Oct 26 15:22 |
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| GoblinRFD | Yeah. Im trying to find a good one.... | Oct 26 15:23 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of Microsoft employees read this site. I don't understand why you took your questions there. | Oct 26 15:23 |
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| schestowitz | They hardly ever disclose who they are, so I just lurk now (I used to comment a lot). | Oct 26 15:23 |
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| GoblinRFD | lol, heres a good Andre post (one of many) | Oct 26 15:25 |
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| GoblinRFD | find the post on the following link that saying "Its all about values and productivity. Microsoft products offer these unique set of qualities, the experiences they create by connecting users with their Families | Oct 26 15:25 |
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| GoblinRFD | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/cor... | Oct 26 15:25 |
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| GoblinRFD | and Andre Da Costa's blog is at: | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds like PR and sound bites. | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| GoblinRFD | http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/ | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| GoblinRFD | lol | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | Is he with MS? | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft also pays bloggers to do such stuff. | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| GoblinRFD | Not sure, if hes not then hes one sad puppy | Oct 26 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | It's no secret. They actually 'hunt' bloggers for that. | Oct 26 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | From Portugal: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/12/ful... | Oct 26 15:27 |
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| GoblinRFD | This whole thing of MS bloggers, reminds me of the scam Indiana Gregg pulled on Wikipedia | Oct 26 15:28 |
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| GoblinRFD | I was involved with that one aswel! | Oct 26 15:28 |
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| schestowitz | What was that one about? | Oct 26 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | There was Microsoft corrupting Wikipedia too. Paid shills and all... | Oct 26 15:29 |
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| GoblinRFD | When she attacked Piratebay, and then started to change facts on herr wiwiki | Oct 26 15:30 |
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| GoblinRFD | oops, didnt realise full screen java would log me out. | Oct 26 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | Phorm (BT) did this as well. | Oct 26 15:32 |
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| GoblinRFD | btw for your info, Im from the UK. my small (and newish) blog is at www.openbytes.wordpress.com - and yes I will be linking to your site! | Oct 26 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20... : Controversial Ad Network Caught Editing Wikipedia | Oct 26 15:32 |
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| GoblinRFD | checking it! | Oct 26 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | Excellent, thank you! | Oct 26 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | The Aussie govt. did the same thing in Wikipedia | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| _Doug | transaction safe FAT file system patented .. | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| _Doug | http://www.freepatentsonline.c... | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | But the UK and US govt. does the same, esp. when it comes to secret services I hear... | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| _Doug | It basically keeps two FAT tables, a current/dirty one and a safe one .. | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | This site is bad. | Oct 26 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | Method of swinging on a swing < http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6368227.html > | Oct 26 15:34 |
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| _Doug | Assignee: Microsoft Corporation (Redmond, WA) | Oct 26 15:34 |
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| GoblinRFD | Schestowitz - its been really good talking with you. Im off out to a restaurant with the wife now, I will be back, and I will be linking to you. Thank you for taking the time to talk with me! Speak to you later! Regards from the UK! | Oct 26 15:38 |
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| _Doug | Wikipedia standardizes servers on Ubuntu .. | Oct 26 15:41 |
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| _Doug | http://www.linux-watch.com/ | Oct 26 15:41 |
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| _Doug | Chicago Mercantile Exchange joins Linux Foundation .. | Oct 26 15:42 |
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| _Doug | http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2205088556.html | Oct 26 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | _Doug: why now? | Oct 26 15:43 |
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| _Doug | must make sound business sense .. no vendor lock-in, cost effective and reliability .. | Oct 26 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | Must not crash. Well, it crashed later (Sept) | Oct 26 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | The market, not the servers. | Oct 26 15:45 |
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| _Doug | And the LSE disaster mayt have influenced the decision .. | Oct 26 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that joke was brought up at the time. | Oct 26 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | Gosh, I hate proofreading. It make blogging _a lot_ less fun, but since many people read this thing, I force myself to read the same s* over and over again. | Oct 26 15:50 |
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| _Doug | Asus boxes infected with 'computer' virus .. | Oct 26 15:55 |
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| _Doug | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1793... | Oct 26 15:55 |
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| _Doug | clueless Cluley reports another MAc virus .. | Oct 26 15:57 |
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| _Doug | http://www.scmagazineus.com/New-rogue-so... | Oct 26 15:57 |
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| _Doug | how exactly does the 'Trojan' get onto the machine ? | Oct 26 15:59 |
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| _Doug | http://www.frsirt.com/english/virus/2008/01860 | Oct 26 15:59 |
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| _Doug | Sarkozy's bank account hacked .. | Oct 26 16:00 |
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| _Doug | http://www.scmagazineus.com/French-Preside... | Oct 26 16:00 |
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| _Doug | Palin email "hack" underscores need for stronger authentication | Oct 26 16:05 |
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| _Doug | http://www.scmagazineus.com/Palin-email-hac... | Oct 26 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | I see you're catching yp | Oct 26 16:05 |
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| _Doug | good idea, now when are they going to implement it, 2108 ? | Oct 26 16:05 |
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| _Doug | yp ? | Oct 26 16:06 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL*Sarko | Oct 26 16:06 |
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| schestowitz | /yp/up/ | Oct 26 16:06 |
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| schestowitz | _Doug: they don't even move to IPv6 | Oct 26 16:06 |
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| _Doug | what a good idea, computers that don't catch 'viruses' and authenticated email ... | Oct 26 16:06 |
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| _Doug | FBI on security .."I'm running SUSE, Fedora 9. I don't spend as much quality time with these operating systems as I used to" | Oct 26 16:09 |
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| _Doug | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/secur... | Oct 26 16:09 |
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| _Doug | Q: So why do you prefer Linux? A: I just think it's more efficient. To me, it's more powerful. | Oct 26 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | Some say Windows it to blame: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/1... | Oct 26 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | Regarding the FBI, I missed that article. It's from August. | Oct 26 16:13 |
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| _Doug | Citibank to Replace ATMs .. | Oct 26 16:13 |
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| _Doug | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix... | Oct 26 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | Citibank roundup: | Oct 26 16:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/03/c... | Oct 26 16:14 |
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| _Doug | newly-discovered malware .. discovered ... | Oct 26 16:15 |
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| _Doug | "The newly-discovered malware is what's known as a "rootkit," which is typically a set of tools designed to hide malicious files on an infected system. This particular rootkit hides its files in the "master boot record" (MBR), one of the deepest recesses of the PC's hard drive" | Oct 26 16:15 |
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| _Doug | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/secu... | Oct 26 16:15 |
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| _Doug | :) | Oct 26 16:15 |
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| _Doug | Anti-virus dominates PC application sales chart .. | Oct 26 16:21 |
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| _Doug | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... | Oct 26 16:21 |
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| _Doug | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good grief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Oct 26 16:21 |
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| twitter | Wow, there's a lot to catch up with today! | Oct 26 16:23 |
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| _Doug | Five programs you can afford in a financial meltdown .. | Oct 26 16:25 |
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| _Doug | http://blogs.computerworld.com/five_pro... | Oct 26 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | wb | Oct 26 16:25 |
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| _Doug | I just post links as no one here seems to want to chat on Internet Relay Chat .. :( | Oct 26 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | Everyone multitasks | Oct 26 16:26 |
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| _Doug | internetevolution.com: economy about to give Open-Source a good thumping .. | Oct 26 16:27 |
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| _Doug | http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?... | Oct 26 16:27 |
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| schestowitz | FUD | Oct 26 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | Debunked | Oct 26 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | Entertained by /. | Oct 26 16:28 |
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| _Doug | http://blogs.computerworld.com/an... | Oct 26 16:28 |
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| twitter | Masnick is verbose, " Thus, his argument is that we really should focus on mechanisms to avoid lawsuits to allow those products to move forward. Thus, licensing is preferable to lawsuits. That's true, but misses the point. The fact that no complex product can be brought to market without violating numerous patents should be seen as the problem, rather than a truism that is solved through licensing. " | Oct 26 16:29 |
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| twitter | He could have simply said that software patents suck because they keep people from doing things. Broken "interoperability" is one of the smaller results rather than something promoted by patents. | Oct 26 16:31 |
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| twitter | M$ logic is so twisted. | Oct 26 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | Hypocritical | Oct 26 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | They used to protest against it | Oct 26 16:32 |
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| schestowitz | I'm off for a while... benchpressing contest | Oct 26 16:32 |
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| twitter | have fun | Oct 26 16:32 |
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| _Doug | I'm off .. beer drinking contest :) | Oct 26 16:32 |
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| twitter | "More libel in linux.com (comments), accusing of sock-puppetry where someone merely tried to comment in BN, entered moderation and then tried again with a different nick. They are making stuff up to discredit. sigh*" Woops, I made that one up. If that's what happened, it was a misunderstanding. | Oct 26 16:36 |
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| twitter | It's amazing how the trolls read every word we write and jump on it. Talk about zero life. | Oct 26 16:37 |
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| _Doug | Boycott Novell: Champion of freedom or den of paranoia? | Oct 26 16:41 |
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| _Doug | http://www.linux.com/feature/151215 | Oct 26 16:41 |
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| _Doug | a blog quoting another blog written by one Fucker T. :) | Oct 26 16:43 |
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| _Doug | and a link to this .. http://linsux.org/index.php?topi... | Oct 26 16:45 |
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| _Doug | sounds like sane unbiased pro Open Source argument :) | Oct 26 16:45 |
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| _Doug | oh .. look ... someone has recorded our conversations for posterity .. | Oct 26 16:50 |
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| _Doug | http://wp.colliertech.org/cj/?p=237 | Oct 26 16:50 |
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| _Doug | I just posted a comment there .. | Oct 26 17:18 |
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| _Doug | > I believe that Microsoft (or parts thereof) are interested in working with the Free Software world and should be treated as part of the community .. | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | You’re not serious, Microsoft’s actions from the browser wars to taking control of Java to the Novells covenant clearly illustrates its real intentions regarding Open Source, in short to subvert it from the inside .. | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | “Microsoft has no choice, we must seize control [of] the Java platform!” | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | http://www.mdd.uscourts.gov/Opinions... | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | OSS projects have been able to gain a foothold in many server applications because of the wide utility of highly commoditized, simple protocols. By extending these protocols and developing new protocols, we can deny OSS projects entry into the market. | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | http://www.catb.org/~esr/hallow... | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | Lastly, part financing the SCO case isn’t ‘ working with the Free Software world’ .. | Oct 26 17:19 |
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| _Doug | the ghost in the voting machine .. | Oct 26 17:20 |
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| _Doug | http://www.itworld.com/tech-amp-soci... | Oct 26 17:20 |
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| _Doug | twitter: a tool for terrorists .. | Oct 26 17:22 |
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| _Doug | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?... | Oct 26 17:22 |
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| _Doug | not you twitter :o | Oct 26 17:22 |
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| _Doug | "Terrorists may or may not be using voice-changing software but it should be of open source interest that online terrorist and/or terrorist enthusiasts are discussing it," | Oct 26 17:23 |
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| _Doug | wha ????????????????????? | Oct 26 17:23 |
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| _Doug | [%H:%M] | Oct 26 17:25 |
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| _Doug | http://www.ubersoft.net/ | Oct 26 17:26 |
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| _Doug | Novell on compliance: "one major benefit of the system is that it promotes collaboration between IT and business interests to understand and manage risk and compliance – something that is frequently more honored in the breach" | Oct 26 17:32 |
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| _Doug | http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/dir/20... | Oct 26 17:32 |
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| _Doug | would making a computer that didn't get viruses be compliant ? | Oct 26 17:33 |
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| _Doug | Novell's iPrint open to attack, say researchers .. | Oct 26 17:34 |
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| _Doug | "Novell has issued a patch that plugs multiple holes in the ActiveX control that Novell ships as part of its iPrint product" | Oct 26 17:34 |
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| _Doug | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/082508-no... | Oct 26 17:34 |
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| _Doug | ActiveX and security don't go in the same sentence .. | Oct 26 17:34 |
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| _Doug | was the ActiveX control compliant ? | Oct 26 17:35 |
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| _Doug | Horacio Gutierrez sees the light on 'mixed source' .. | Oct 26 17:37 |
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| _Doug | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-... | Oct 26 17:37 |
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| _Doug | "We're all 'mixed source' companies" | Oct 26 17:37 |
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| _Doug | yea, but only MS owns the source code .. | Oct 26 17:37 |
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| _Doug | "If every effort to license proves not to be fruitful, ultimately .." | Oct 26 17:38 |
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| _Doug | hey, I thought MS was playing nice ? | Oct 26 17:38 |
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| _Doug | 'In an effort to help head off patent disputes, Microsoft is an investor in Nathan Myrhvold's patent-buying Intellectual Ventures' | Oct 26 17:38 |
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| _Doug | good grief ! | Oct 26 17:38 |
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| _Doug | how not to delete evidence .. | Oct 26 17:45 |
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| _Doug | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?st... | Oct 26 17:45 |
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| _Doug | do what the CIA does .. and use a hammer .. I kid you not ... | Oct 26 17:46 |
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| MinceR | how are you gentlemen !! | Oct 26 18:04 |
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| twitter | we are gentlemen by our gentle manners | Oct 26 18:43 |
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| twitter | and kind words | Oct 26 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Back. (on to some Microsoft posts) | Oct 26 19:51 |
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| twitter | Your server seems to be buggy. | Oct 26 21:38 |
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| twitter | A little slow and Word Press errors on the front page. | Oct 26 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | True. | Oct 26 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Not much I can do about it.. | Oct 26 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Back end is affected also, so it's not just this user account. | Oct 26 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Sill down. | Oct 26 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they'll give the server attention. They usually respond quickly. | Oct 26 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | The server is back on its feet now. Thanks for alerting me. | Oct 26 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, pombat42. | Oct 26 22:19 |
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| pombat42 | hi | Oct 26 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | I'm posting something that relates to iPhone in a second. | Oct 26 22:22 |
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| pombat42 | Great unit but the newer one is much nicer which is typical for Apple. Never buy v1.0 | Oct 26 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | It's posted now < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/... >. Down at the bottom it explains how iPhone harms WM. | Oct 26 22:23 |
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| pombat42 | that's why you see so many Macbooks on ebay. they have serious screen cracking problems. | Oct 26 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | G1 is nice too. I'm a sucker for keyboards. | Oct 26 22:23 |
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| pombat42 | my fingers are too fat for the iphone | Oct 26 22:24 |
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| MinceR | there's nothing great about the iphone except the hype around it | Oct 26 22:24 |
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| pombat42 | i disagree | Oct 26 22:24 |
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| MinceR | well, you're an apple fanboy so it's to be expected | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| pombat42 | and how do you know that? | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| MinceR | you've admitted it yourself not too long ago | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| pombat42 | stop baiting me. it does not work. | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: no, he's a *NIX guy, I think. | Oct 26 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | Some Linux users like Apple products. | Oct 26 22:26 |
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| pombat42 | Schestowitz: sort or. Aix and Windows. Not a Mac fan but I do like some of their products, albeit over priced they are, a lot. | Oct 26 22:27 |
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| pombat42 | or= of | Oct 26 22:27 |
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| pombat42 | and Linux too of course :) | Oct 26 22:27 |
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| MinceR | #boycottnovell.2008-10-23.log:003530 8/<g gpombat42g8/>g eApple is a company that is right out in the open. Either you agree or disagree with them. I like them | Oct 26 22:28 |
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| pombat42 | so? that's true in my opinion. | Oct 26 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | the guy who is doing linux loop news | Oct 26 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | terrible | Oct 26 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/10/25/what-the... | Oct 26 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | WHat's his real name? I forgot. | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| MinceR | there should be "high priority" projects? | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | A German/Austrian name. | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | thomas something | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | teisberg | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| MinceR | oh, for promoting, not developing | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | well no | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| trmanco | oh this is interesting | Oct 26 22:30 |
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| trmanco | http://www.novell.com/video/ | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| PetoKraus | FSF has high priority projects | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm.. it's more of a blurb. | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| PetoKraus | yes, but he's mistaken | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| PetoKraus | and, does my comment show? | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| trmanco | Novell on older videos <= 2007 offers an ogg version | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: what's in it? | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| trmanco | but on the 2008 videos, no ogg | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| trmanco | but they do offer a WMV version :| | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Goodcatch. | Oct 26 22:32 |
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| trmanco | this sucks | Oct 26 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Where are the 2007 ones? | Oct 26 22:32 |
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| trmanco | in a little iframe | Oct 26 22:32 |
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| trmanco | at the end of the page with a flash player atached to it | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Aha. | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| trmanco | attached | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. That makes a good post. | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| trmanco | no problem | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| trmanco | can't be free anymore with Novell's videos | Oct 26 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | I'll take some screenshots for future ref | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| trmanco | ok | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | it's stupid | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway, today, i managed gnash to work | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | plays youtube videos | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | amazing | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | what else does Joe the Plumber need flash for? | Oct 26 22:35 |
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| trmanco | I just printed novells page | Oct 26 22:35 |
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| trmanco | into a pdf file | Oct 26 22:35 |
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| MinceR | well, joe the plumber needs it for an unnecessarily large amount of pages | Oct 26 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: almost nothing. Flash = video. | Oct 26 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | That's what brought Flash back from the s*can. | Oct 26 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | Many devs abandoned it for reasons to do with standards. Then streaming video came along. | Oct 26 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: please send. | Oct 26 22:40 |
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| MinceR | and devs forgot there are sane formats for streaming video already. | Oct 26 22:41 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah... | Oct 26 22:41 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, ok 1 sec | Oct 26 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | 10x | Oct 26 22:45 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, done | Oct 26 22:45 |
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| trmanco | check you inbox | Oct 26 22:46 |
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| twitter | Joe the Plumber is in your tubes, stealing your election. | Oct 26 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Kudos to Tony -> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/... | Oct 26 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Now I'll do the financial report on Microsoft... it's bloody huge. | Oct 26 22:50 |
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| trmanco | haha | Oct 26 22:51 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, beautiful | Oct 26 22:51 |
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| twitter | novell dumps ogg for wmv? unfuckingbeleavable! | Oct 26 22:51 |
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| trmanco | yes | Oct 26 22:51 |
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| trmanco | time to go | Oct 26 22:53 |
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| trmanco | see you all tomorrow | Oct 26 22:53 |
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| pombat42 | fwiw flash is used for a lot of CBT training materials. | Oct 26 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/1... "'"I don't want to curb freedom of expression, but I am concerned that many developers focus just on excessive violence in order to stimulate people's mind," Miyamoto told UK's Channel 4, in an interview published last week.' | Oct 26 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: your 'fan' club is taking the p*** again. Stop the nymshifting or find a way to handle this please. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/2... | Oct 26 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | They use your habits to libel me. | Oct 26 23:33 |
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| pombat42 | re:video games. as a kid I watched the roadrunner and his Acme dynamite blow up the coyote all the time. i knew it wasn't real | Oct 26 23:45 |
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| pombat42 | i watched abbot and costello hit each other with sledge hammers. i knew not to try this on my sister | Oct 26 23:45 |
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| pombat42 | winff is great easy to use front end for ffmpeg | Oct 26 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | It's different. | Oct 26 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | A stronger analogy would involve realer characters that are interactive | Oct 26 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | pombat42: was it you who told me this months ago? | Oct 26 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | re: winff | Oct 26 23:49 |
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| zoobab | http://spectrum.ieee.org/mar07/4943 | Oct 26 23:49 |
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| pombat42 | the reality role model stuff can get scary if people actually believe it. if they do they have worse problems | Oct 26 23:49 |
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| pombat42 | possibly. i don't usually get involved in gaming | Oct 26 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: wb | Oct 26 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | pombat42: I was addicted to ET. It's mind captivating, potentially. There are harms to it, but it's fun. | Oct 26 23:58 |
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| pombat42 | what's ET (I told u i'm not up on gaming!) | Oct 26 23:59 |
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