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twitter | Ah ha. I seem to have remembered the Vista Capable Email and the wrong WSJ reporter. Reporters from Bloomberg, the WSJ and Information week were massaged prior to Vista's release. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/10/bl... | Jan 27 01:11 |
schestowitz | I look at the PDF again. | Jan 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | I couldn't find any new and conspicuous names in server/receipient | Jan 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | None about Mossberg that I could find, either, unless I missed it. | Jan 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | I intend to write something gentle about the personal relationship between Walt and Billg | Jan 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | If this harms credibility, then it's deserved | Jan 27 01:13 |
twitter | Sure, I was wrong but I stand by my opinion that Mossberg is just as much in M$'s pocket as Rob Guth. Your insight will be appreciated. Mossberg has consistently bashed free software and completely missed the boat on investigating M$ wrongdoing. | Jan 27 01:14 |
twitter | His collusion in the name of convenience is an endorsement of corruption. | Jan 27 01:15 |
twitter | The more "reasonable" he makes that endorsement seem, the more evil it is. | Jan 27 01:15 |
schestowitz | "missed the boat" or the goat? :-D | Jan 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | Everybody's a Critic < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/... > | Jan 27 01:30 |
schestowitz | Another Microsoft product folded: PerformancePoint Server, Microsoft datacenters feel the pinch [...] It looks like Microsoft’s Global Foundation Services (GFS) team is, indeed, among those taking a hit. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1843 | Jan 27 01:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2... "Kingman criticizes Harris for both the "tactless" style and seeming lack of substance to his essay. Click below to read the complete response." | Jan 27 01:42 |
schestowitz | "The rant has drawn a response from former ZDNet editor Henry Kingman. On our sister site, Linux-Watch, he writes, "Have Linux geeks learned to see penguin-baiting for what it is, and ignore it? I guess I wouldn't be writing this, if they had."" http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2... | Jan 27 01:42 |
schestowitz | Yikes... What do KDE 4.2 and Windows 7 have in common? < http://blogs.computerworld.com/what_do_... > | Jan 27 01:47 |
tessier | http://www.cringely.com/2009/... | Jan 27 01:47 |
schestowitz | He'll anger some KDE folks.. ""In all fairness, Torvalds hasn't tried, to the best of my knowledge, the new KDE 4.2. Still, when all is said and done, to me KDE 4.2, like the Windows 7 ribbon, is change just for the sake of change, not for the sake of making things easier for users. Personally, I'm going to stick with KDE 3.5x and start spending more time with GNOME 2.24. I think you should too." | Jan 27 01:48 |
schestowitz | tessier: I didn't know "Bob" (Mark) had a site | Jan 27 01:48 |
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schestowitz | tessier: I wrote about the Cingely piece: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/26... | Jan 27 09:06 |
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schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jKNTv... | Jan 27 09:09 |
PetoKraus | schestowitz: did you read slashdot this morning? | Jan 27 09:16 |
PetoKraus | Apple patenting single and multi touch gestures | Jan 27 09:16 |
PetoKraus | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F... | Jan 27 09:16 |
schestowitz | Apple can screw itself. | Jan 27 09:17 |
schestowitz | Hehe. So true. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=... | Jan 27 09:17 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/1151564095 "glynmoody: Apple's touch screen patent - http://is.gd/hjiM. Ridiculous: I was using a touch-screen HP 150 in the mid-1980s - remember, @jackschofield?" | Jan 27 09:18 |
MinceR | geekings | Jan 27 09:19 |
PetoKraus | home made ice tea is actually quite a good thing | Jan 27 09:32 |
schestowitz | 3400 fired in TI: http://www.pcworld.com/article/158365/texas_instr... | Jan 27 09:43 |
schestowitz | TuxMachines still down... my favourite news site.. down for over a day | Jan 27 09:52 |
PetoKraus | DDoS? :) | Jan 27 09:52 |
schestowitz | No, hardly possible. | Jan 27 09:58 |
schestowitz | We're cites here < http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2009/01... > and also just made the front page of LinuxToday again. | Jan 27 09:58 |
schestowitz | Mercy dash family denied entry to US < http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2... > | Jan 27 10:00 |
schestowitz | twitter: I'm doing the Mossberg E-mails text, assuming you haven't had the time. | Jan 27 10:04 |
schestowitz | Our traffic rank has just climbed to 2500th on the Web (Netcraft). | Jan 27 10:06 |
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schestowitz | OK, I got the full text: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/27/bia... | Jan 27 11:27 |
schestowitz | Looks very much like Microsoft AstroTurfers attack a post that's too damaging to them: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_li... | Jan 27 11:30 |
schestowitz | Classic Munchkin line: "Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely Pro Linux and its all I run at home, and at work. I try my best to use it where possible." | Jan 27 11:30 |
schestowitz | Anonymous says: "Microsoft will never lose the desktop, I don't understand why they worry." | Jan 27 11:31 |
schestowitz | He has had Microsoft troll issues before in his blog..... | Jan 27 11:31 |
schestowitz | Kiwi finds US military secrets on 'MP3 player' < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/nz_... > | Jan 27 11:40 |
schestowitz | More Civil Liberties Concerns Over Jailed Korean Blogger < http://techdirt.com/articles... > | Jan 27 11:50 |
schestowitz | *LOL* http://media.slated.org/albums/userpics... | Jan 27 12:06 |
schestowitz | We're almost in page 1 for search on "Vista 7" in Google. | Jan 27 12:09 |
schestowitz | Oh, actually we're in page | Jan 27 12:09 |
schestowitz | in page 1 after all.. | Jan 27 12:10 |
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twitter | Thanks for getting the Mossberg email. Yeah, I was busy. | Jan 27 14:35 |
twitter | Now now, it's not nice to bash on the noobs like that Ubuntu poster. I feel rather spoon fed with all the nice compiled free software Debian collects, documents and delivers. | Jan 27 14:38 |
twitter | The M$ poster would involve meat hooks and the other side of the baby, "Windows - Give me more money, data, life and like it, Bitch!" Strangely, many of the babies would be smiling and ignoring their discomfort. | Jan 27 14:41 |
twitter | "PetoKraus: home made ice tea is actually quite a good thing" Yes it is. Cheap and has just the right amount of real sugar in it. | Jan 27 14:43 |
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schestowitz | twitter: yes, it's Homer was posted that image. I don't like that elitism either. I've had Ubuntu boxes since 4.10 | Jan 27 15:27 |
schestowitz | twitter: home-base ice tea= no acids and preservatives | Jan 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | *base->made | Jan 27 15:28 |
schestowitz | I occurred to me that a good name for the Linux Foundation is actually The Kernel Foundation, along the lines of kernel.org. Many people think of "Linux" as the whole system. | Jan 27 15:29 |
schestowitz | "The University of the People will open its doors in April 2009" http://www.uopeople.com/site/index.asp... | Jan 27 15:56 |
schestowitz | Another open courseware university: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/MSTIR/Industry... | Jan 27 15:57 |
schestowitz | "More that 6,000 workers will be made redundant as Philips tries to claw back a loss of $1.9 billion during the last quarter of 2008." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/646... > | Jan 27 16:22 |
schestowitz | The world would be better without this #1 lobbyist for software patents in the EU. | Jan 27 16:22 |
schestowitz | "THE DVD rental and Internet streaming outfit Netflix has splashed out and bought $175 million of its own shares." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/637/10506... > | Jan 27 16:23 |
schestowitz | Microsoft bought over $100 billion of its OWN stock in the past 4 years, IIRC | Jan 27 16:24 |
schestowitz | Bravo, Mozilla: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/649... | Jan 27 16:32 |
schestowitz | Steve Jobs undergoing surgery Monday < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/643/1... > | Jan 27 16:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/twitter_spam/ "Since Twitter, unlike email, is a closed system, there's more scope to stamp down on rogue accounts. Stiennon adds: "The first thing that Twitter can and should do is limit Twitter ID creation by requiring a valid email account with verification. Gmail accounts of the realname+anything@gmail.com should not be allowed."" | Jan 27 16:35 |
schestowitz | Laser guns are here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/boeing_l... | Jan 27 16:37 |
schestowitz | "ING is looking to slash 7,000 full-time jobs in order to save €1.1bn a year by 2010. Just over a third of this will come from paying less salaries, with the rest coming from lower costs for its head office, cutting the cost of its sponsorship of the Renault Formula 1 team and renegotiating IT contracts." < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... > | Jan 27 16:38 |
schestowitz | Twitter's growing pain: spam < http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/122405 > | Jan 27 16:41 |
schestowitz | Twitter's growing pain: spam < http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/122405 > | Jan 27 16:42 |
PetoKraus | yeah, and the best thing about home-made ice tea | Jan 27 16:46 |
PetoKraus | is that when you take it out of the freezer at 8.00 | Jan 27 16:47 |
PetoKraus | it's still perfectly cold at 17.00 when you get back from school | Jan 27 16:47 |
schestowitz | You can put it outside to be kept cool. | Jan 27 16:47 |
schestowitz | Saves energy. :-) | Jan 27 16:47 |
PetoKraus | yeah, but i think the point of ice tea is to be ice cold :) | Jan 27 16:47 |
schestowitz | Is it not cold enough in Scotland? | Jan 27 16:48 |
PetoKraus | 8€°C | Jan 27 16:48 |
PetoKraus | i actually took out my sunglasses yesterday and today | Jan 27 16:48 |
PetoKraus | for bike | Jan 27 16:48 |
PetoKraus | oh well, i feel tricked | Jan 27 16:50 |
schestowitz | Hmmmm... did you know that Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Eric Schmidt were all born in the same year? | Jan 27 16:50 |
PetoKraus | Asia has "UK tour" but they are going nowhere near scotland | Jan 27 16:50 |
schestowitz | "Asia"? | Jan 27 16:51 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 16:52 |
PetoKraus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_(band) | Jan 27 16:52 |
schestowitz | Oh. | Jan 27 16:52 |
schestowitz | It's nor oriental either. | Jan 27 16:53 |
schestowitz | *not | Jan 27 16:53 |
PetoKraus | yeah. UK all the way | Jan 27 16:53 |
schestowitz | I heard of them before, but remotely. Many former members.. | Jan 27 16:54 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 16:54 |
PetoKraus | i've never heard them play, but hey, there's steve howe and carl palmer which i like | Jan 27 16:54 |
PetoKraus | hmm, looks like i might go to the birmingham gig | Jan 27 16:56 |
schestowitz | Train? | Jan 27 16:57 |
PetoKraus | i guess plane is cheaper | Jan 27 16:57 |
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kentma1 | Asia, as in the supergroup from the 1980s? | Jan 27 17:00 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 17:00 |
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PetoKraus | original reunion | Jan 27 17:00 |
kentma1 | Wow - and I thought prog rock was virtually dead... | Jan 27 17:01 |
PetoKraus | it actually is | Jan 27 17:01 |
kentma1 | what - dead, you mean? | Jan 27 17:01 |
PetoKraus | just Jethro Tull, Asia, and Yes happen to have tours this year | Jan 27 17:01 |
PetoKraus | since it's 40 years anniversary for all of them | Jan 27 17:01 |
PetoKraus | (+- a year) | Jan 27 17:01 |
kentma1 | and queen, of course, 'cept Freddy's not very alive any more. | Jan 27 17:01 |
PetoKraus | queen is not much of prog though | Jan 27 17:01 |
kentma1 | Queen? Last of the prog bands we always thought. | Jan 27 17:02 |
kentma1 | categories are never cut & dried, though... and I'm not so bothered to argue about it :-) | Jan 27 17:02 |
PetoKraus | yeah :) me neither, i like them | Jan 27 17:02 |
kentma1 | Yes are touring? mmmmmmmmmm | Jan 27 17:03 |
PetoKraus | though i'd say they are more of a "classic rock" | Jan 27 17:03 |
PetoKraus | in the states, without Jon though | Jan 27 17:03 |
PetoKraus | Jon almost died of astma just before start of the tour | Jan 27 17:03 |
PetoKraus | they had to cancel European 2009 tour and moved US 2008 to 2008/2009 dates with some other singer | Jan 27 17:03 |
kentma1 | I was a big queen fan, but also I like Yes and Jethro and ELP and Soft Machine and Caravan and King Crimson and so on. | Jan 27 17:03 |
kentma1 | Jon Deacon - bass player - ohh, poor b*gger. | Jan 27 17:04 |
PetoKraus | i mean Jon Anderson of Yes | Jan 27 17:04 |
kentma1 | ah, that jon - nasty business - is he okay now? | Jan 27 17:05 |
PetoKraus | stabilised | Jan 27 17:05 |
PetoKraus | can't tour | Jan 27 17:05 |
PetoKraus | though the guy who's replacing him is really good. You wouldn't tell. | Jan 27 17:06 |
PetoKraus | *tell them apart. | Jan 27 17:06 |
kentma1 | best of luck to him. My no1 son will ill for about 5 years constantly with eczema & asthma - I was more or less living in the hospital and doctor's - these things are awful. | Jan 27 17:06 |
kentma1 | hehe - good! | Jan 27 17:06 |
kentma1 | I've been trying to start a prog rock revival chez moi, albeit with limited success so far. | Jan 27 17:07 |
schestowitz | "01/24/2009 04:40 AM [...] SCO Files Bankruptcy" | Jan 27 17:07 |
schestowitz | [Old news] http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=76485 (should be 2007) | Jan 27 17:08 |
kentma1 | schestowitz: hehe | Jan 27 17:08 |
PetoKraus | british rail page is SHITE | Jan 27 17:10 |
kentma1 | err, yes | Jan 27 17:11 |
PetoKraus | and the train ticket would cost me €£70 | Jan 27 17:11 |
kentma1 | where to? | Jan 27 17:11 |
PetoKraus | Glasgow -> birmingham | Jan 27 17:12 |
PetoKraus | i'm gonna check a bus | Jan 27 17:12 |
kentma1 | car hire might be cheaper. | Jan 27 17:12 |
kentma1 | coach is usually cheapest. Probably do it by coach for €£30 or so. | Jan 27 17:12 |
PetoKraus | no license | Jan 27 17:12 |
kentma1 | ahhh | Jan 27 17:12 |
PetoKraus | yeah, bus will be like €£40 | Jan 27 17:13 |
PetoKraus | or 24... | Jan 27 17:14 |
kentma1 | bmi are saying flights from €£21, but you'll need both ways, and you'll have to pay airport charges, and you need to get to/fro the airports. | Jan 27 17:14 |
amarsh04 | PetoKraus... I thought that Kansas were still going... and Jon Lord from Deep Purple did a show last year with our local orchestra | Jan 27 17:14 |
PetoKraus | lol, €£22.50 | Jan 27 17:14 |
kentma1 | amarsh04: brilliant" | Jan 27 17:15 |
PetoKraus | that's priceless | Jan 27 17:15 |
kentma1 | National Express are advertising tickets from €£1... | Jan 27 17:15 |
PetoKraus | right. I am convinced now | Jan 27 17:15 |
PetoKraus | :) | Jan 27 17:15 |
PetoKraus | the only thing is - it's RIGHT after my easter break from school | Jan 27 17:16 |
amarsh04 | our local orchestra also did Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd tribute shows - they have a double cd of the Pink Floyd tribute out | Jan 27 17:16 |
kentma1 | amarsh04: what orchestra is that? | Jan 27 17:16 |
amarsh04 | Adelaide symphony orchestra http://www.aso.com.au | Jan 27 17:16 |
kentma1 | ah, I can't really pop round for a listen, then :-) | Jan 27 17:18 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 17:18 |
PetoKraus | there was The Australian Pink Floyd tour last here | Jan 27 17:18 |
PetoKraus | *year here | Jan 27 17:18 |
PetoKraus | they were completely sold out AFAIK | Jan 27 17:18 |
kentma1 | Interesting. I saw Roger Waters with Mrs Mark & kids a couple of years ago in Hyde Park, and it was busy, but hardly packed out... He did Dark Side & The Wall, mostly. It was excellent. | Jan 27 17:19 |
amarsh04 | The ASO recently played in Los Angeles and New York | Jan 27 17:19 |
kentma1 | Have they ever made the Proms at all? | Jan 27 17:20 |
kentma1 | We're getting more non-UK orchestras, choirs and conductors in the proms now. | Jan 27 17:20 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/educ... ( 390,000 to access child database) | Jan 27 17:22 |
amarsh04 | not that I know of, kentma1 | Jan 27 17:27 |
amarsh04 | or for a concert featuring the music of Joe Hisaishi for Studio Ghibli: http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=226 | Jan 27 17:28 |
kentma1 | amarsh04: maybe next year. | Jan 27 17:28 |
kentma1 | Some Ghibli films have been on tv here recently. The kids really like them. | Jan 27 17:29 |
kentma1 | 390,000 people accessing information about children - that's ridiculous. It must be something like one person for every 10 children. This is an unbelievable abuse of human rights, privacy and just about anything else I can think of. | Jan 27 17:30 |
amarsh04 | schestowitz - In http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7847377.stm there is the incongruent statement: "However, some schools are taking on OSS. Highworth Grammar School, in Ashford, is offering both licensed and open source software to students. " | Jan 27 17:31 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: there's more | Jan 27 17:32 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7853086.stm | Jan 27 17:32 |
amarsh04 | kentma1 - we usually hear the proms concerts on radio a few days after they were held | Jan 27 17:32 |
schestowitz | Today: "Instead of awarding long-term contracts to large IT companies they could open up the procurement process to smaller firms using "open source" software. " | Jan 27 17:32 |
trmanco | Has anybody seen this crap? | Jan 27 17:32 |
trmanco | http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01... | Jan 27 17:32 |
schestowitz | trmanco: don't feed it | Jan 27 17:32 |
schestowitz | It's been rebutted too much, just giving the flamebait attention | Jan 27 17:33 |
kentma1 | " ... not just to learn Linux but equally Vista and Office 2007 as well " - can you believe that? | Jan 27 17:33 |
trmanco | Lets send an email to Google an tell them to shut down *all* their Data centers for one day, and let Microsoft pay the losses for that day | Jan 27 17:33 |
trmanco | meh, didn't express myself well | Jan 27 17:34 |
schestowitz | Maybe we should have ZDNet lambasted more often for appointing rapid anti-Linux people.. many Microsoft heads there. | Jan 27 17:34 |
amarsh04 | plenty of ms trolls talking about imdemnification - I thought that's what hp and red hat and others offered for linux, but what ms didn't offer for those using their products | Jan 27 17:35 |
schestowitz | Tim Bay's wife is leaving Sun.. lambasted | Jan 27 17:35 |
schestowitz | *Bray | Jan 27 17:35 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: got any examples? | Jan 27 17:36 |
amarsh04 | give me a few minutes | Jan 27 17:36 |
schestowitz | I know Microsoft has internally been talking about this as "talking point". I didn't notice in a surge of such whispers campaign. | Jan 27 17:37 |
PetoKraus | OH FUCK THIS honestly! this is unbelievable.... | Jan 27 17:37 |
PetoKraus | 22.4. - asia plays in Birmingham. 24.4. - PJ Harvey plays in edinburgh, and i already have tickets | Jan 27 17:37 |
PetoKraus | and GUESS WHAT | Jan 27 17:37 |
PetoKraus | 23.4. - PJ Harvey plays IN EXACTLY THE SAME VENUE as Asia in Birmingham! | Jan 27 17:38 |
schestowitz | It seems possible that we have trolls in BN (corporate ones) but Shane doesn't mind. | Jan 27 17:40 |
schestowitz | One guy says: "I disagree strongly with Shane's position that "it doesn't matter whom is behind a post." For example, suppose I want to do a programming project and I want outside advice on which platform and language to use. " | Jan 27 17:41 |
schestowitz | "One person I could ask is a Microsoft MVP. The other person has a computer science degree, has used many languages, many operating systems and is familiar with data structures and algorithms." | Jan 27 17:41 |
schestowitz | "I would attach more credibility to the second person's advice because he probably doesn't have an economic incentive (conflict of interest) to give a particular answer and his advice is more likely to be based on his better experience and knowledge. It does matter who is giving the advice. " | Jan 27 17:41 |
schestowitz | "I also consider it ludicrous that Shane even thinks that it's possible to be a shill or astro-turfer for Free Software. I appreciate the humour, although it was unintentional. :)"" | Jan 27 17:41 |
schestowitz | "Actually, I agree with Shane partially in that, if you're discussing established facts and presenting them to make an argument, then the argument should be evaluated based on its merit and not on who made it. However, when it comes to opinions, then it is important to know whose opinion it is. It helps to evaluate the opinion based on perceived credibility of the source." | Jan 27 17:42 |
schestowitz | "Of course, in the "Dan O'Brian" case, his opinions are predictable and I often disagree with them. It wouldn't matter to me if he spoke anonymously. In fact, if someone on the Web site wants to comment anonymously (i.e. "Baby in the Bathwater"), they can do that right now." | Jan 27 17:42 |
schestowitz | By the way, "Baby in the Bathwater" is a Novell employee posting from Novell | Jan 27 17:43 |
schestowitz | The Corporocracy queries re: DRM https://secure.commentworks.com/ftc-DRMtechnologies/ | Jan 27 17:47 |
schestowitz | That's like Iranian referendum on human rights and gay rights.. | Jan 27 17:47 |
trmanco | http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2009/01/26/vali... | Jan 27 17:55 |
trmanco | See, has I said yesterday: http://development.openoffice.or... | Jan 27 17:57 |
trmanco | :-P | Jan 27 17:57 |
trmanco | And so is KDE | Jan 27 17:59 |
trmanco | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/ | Jan 27 17:59 |
PetoKraus | oh well | Jan 27 18:00 |
PetoKraus | they're not gonna fix my bug are they | Jan 27 18:00 |
schestowitz | Bug them about it | Jan 27 18:03 |
amarsh04 | schestowitz took me a while, was someone posting anonymously: http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/01/enough-is-en... | Jan 27 18:04 |
PetoKraus | how can i | Jan 27 18:04 |
PetoKraus | more than submitting bug report | Jan 27 18:04 |
schestowitz | Write a patch | Jan 27 18:05 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: thanks. | Jan 27 18:06 |
schestowitz | Biggest hard drive in the world arrives < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... > | Jan 27 18:18 |
schestowitz | Whatever we do the planet is doomed... dooomed! < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/... > "As tempting as it may be to raise our hands and declare it all a lost cause, Solomon says it is no time to do any such thing. She added "I guess if it's irreversible, to me it seems all the more reason you might want to do something about it"." | Jan 27 18:18 |
schestowitz | In a way, it's good to see that Photoshop runs 'natively' on Linux using Windows APIs it was written for. Technically, the main issue is access to source code, but people just don't realise it. Same applies to Google Earth PICASA~1, which used Direct^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HX. | Jan 27 18:25 |
schestowitz | What's wrong with this book cover? http://lifehacker.com/5139752/ubuntu-pocket-... No word about GNU/Linux. | Jan 27 18:28 |
schestowitz | Latest Pointless Law: Requiring Cameraphones To Click When Taking Photos < http://techdirt.com/articles/200901... > | Jan 27 18:30 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 18:30 |
PetoKraus | i've alredy talked about it with my friend who does photography | Jan 27 18:30 |
PetoKraus | it'd wreck shitload of photos | Jan 27 18:30 |
PetoKraus | though i guess it does not apply to a camera, but still | Jan 27 18:31 |
schestowitz | No brand recognition... they dilute it. Had Ubuntu been gone, other distros would not gain from public recognition earned by Ubuntu | Jan 27 18:31 |
PetoKraus | there is only a tiny step... | Jan 27 18:31 |
schestowitz | I guess it rules out open source cams | Jan 27 18:31 |
schestowitz | ACCESS Linux powers some Sony cams | Jan 27 18:31 |
schestowitz | Microsoft also tries the "digital manners" BS that prevents it from working... like a kill switch for cams | Jan 27 18:32 |
PetoKraus | schestowitz: no it doesn't | Jan 27 18:32 |
PetoKraus | it just means you'd have to buy it outside of UK | Jan 27 18:33 |
PetoKraus | or wherever it is | Jan 27 18:33 |
PetoKraus | US | Jan 27 18:33 |
schestowitz | Japan | Jan 27 18:33 |
PetoKraus | the kill switch for cameras is a dreadful thing though | Jan 27 18:33 |
PetoKraus | also... i'd never buy a camera with GPS module | Jan 27 18:33 |
ushimitsudoki1 | japan cell phones always click - we've had that as law here a long time unless i am mistaken | Jan 27 18:33 |
schestowitz | New design for KDE Dot (about time!): http://dot.kde.org/2009/01/27/kde-42-released | Jan 27 18:34 |
schestowitz | http://dot.kde.org/2009/01/26/new-day-new-dot-0 It looks.. too simple... I don't know, but it could be richer | Jan 27 18:34 |
PetoKraus | arch already has it in repos | Jan 27 18:35 |
schestowitz | You use Arch?? | Jan 27 18:35 |
PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 27 18:35 |
schestowitz | Blimey. | Jan 27 18:35 |
PetoKraus | why? | Jan 27 18:35 |
schestowitz | What's next? LFS? Gentoo not hard enough? | Jan 27 18:35 |
PetoKraus | :) it's actually much easier than Gentoo | Jan 27 18:35 |
PetoKraus | and you are warned every time they F**k something up | Jan 27 18:36 |
schestowitz | Microsoft IE8 rolls out the astroturf http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/... | Jan 27 18:37 |
PetoKraus | OOo 3.0.1 is in the repositories as well | Jan 27 18:38 |
PetoKraus | they ARE quite fast at updating. | Jan 27 18:38 |
schestowitz | I saw their IRC channel.. about 500 people there. | Jan 27 18:38 |
PetoKraus | 634 | Jan 27 18:39 |
PetoKraus | it's the most retarded support channel I've ever seen | Jan 27 18:39 |
schestowitz | Message du jour: Facebokk=death: Glasgow Cops pound Facebook to blunt knife crime < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/... > | Jan 27 18:40 |
schestowitz | Some days ago the BBC blamed Facebook for a murder.. because of some crazed husband. | Jan 27 18:40 |
PetoKraus | "Now BBC's Newsbeat - news for people with an attention span as long as the average 4/4 drum loop" | Jan 27 18:41 |
PetoKraus | that makes it almost-quote-of-the-day! | Jan 27 18:41 |
schestowitz | Another Microsoft Death.. :-) | Jan 27 18:42 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's Equipt kill date remains MIA amid retail carnage: | Jan 27 18:42 |
schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/20... | Jan 27 18:42 |
PetoKraus | hmm well | Jan 27 18:42 |
PetoKraus | it's quite scary though | Jan 27 18:42 |
PetoKraus | as I've got a status "Thinking of the children" for at about 3 days now | Jan 27 18:42 |
PetoKraus | i'm waiting till Strathclyde anti-pedo-corps(es) are gonna knock on my door | Jan 27 18:43 |
schestowitz | Oh noes | Jan 27 18:47 |
schestowitz | Did you take a picture of some swing at a park? | Jan 27 18:47 |
schestowitz | If so, you might be a pedo | Jan 27 18:47 |
schestowitz | I love this one: Elderly woman prohibited from photographing empty swimming pool "to prevent paedophilia" < http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/25/e... > | Jan 27 18:48 |
schestowitz | She could -- you know -- be a terrorist too. She was preparing to bomb the concrete at the pool with dynamite strapped to her. But with the camera she was "just planning" | Jan 27 18:49 |
PetoKraus | AMAZING :D | Jan 27 18:50 |
PetoKraus | wait | Jan 27 18:52 |
PetoKraus | what's the difference between techdirt and /. ? | Jan 27 18:53 |
schestowitz | the former is better | Jan 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | I love Mike's topics | Jan 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | Slashdot is too ads/trolls-oriented | Jan 27 18:56 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry... (Branching for OOo 3.1) | Jan 27 19:07 |
schestowitz | Woohoo... AdamW joins Red Hat (one company that actually recruits for a change): http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01... | Jan 27 19:10 |
schestowitz | Is this Akamai or some similar front end that hides Windows: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?u... ? | Jan 27 19:13 |
ushimitsudoki1 | AdamW is good people. When I blogged about trying mandriva and it not detecting my video card, we exchanged emails and he really tried to help. | Jan 27 19:24 |
schestowitz | Yes, he mails me too sometimes. Very nice person. | Jan 27 19:24 |
ushimitsudoki1 | nn | Jan 27 19:25 |
trmanco | what does ACK mean? | Jan 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | Acknowledges (packet) | Jan 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | We're mentioned here (scraping site): http://www.e-linux.it/news_detail.php?id=7641 | Jan 27 19:32 |
schestowitz | Apocalypse in 2012? Date spawns theories, film < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/01/27... > | Jan 27 19:41 |
schestowitz | Thrift store MP3 player contains secret military files < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/27/confide... > | Jan 27 19:50 |
schestowitz | Linux Journal's new editor... still uses some Windows...? "Ask the Experts: I recently reinstalled Windows on my dual boot system and now Linux no longer boots..." < http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ask-expe... > | Jan 27 19:53 |
trmanco | schestowitz, thanks | Jan 27 19:58 |
schestowitz | Todd Bishop has recently devolved into some kind of a Microsoft marketing machine. Realising that Microsoft is slowly dying he seems to be jumping to their rescue. Maybe I'll just dump his RSS feed later this week... | Jan 27 20:03 |
amarsh04 | this machine still has dual-boot with windows (95OSR2) but most of what I still want to run works in dosemu | Jan 27 20:16 |
amarsh04 | was worth getting linux running on this machine - it turned out that the scsi driver for the dpt scsi controller was non functional from kernel 2.6.23 until I reported the problem and someone on linux-scsi fixed it in under 10 hours and the fix made 2.6.28.1 | Jan 27 20:18 |
amarsh04 | is really funny trying to find a working w95 driver for a radeon 9200se video card or realtek 8139 ethernet card | Jan 27 20:20 |
amarsh04 | I like the way that as long as there is working hardware somewhere, generally the linux support will be there too | Jan 27 20:21 |
PetoKraus | there we go, OOo 3.0.1 installed :) | Jan 27 20:21 |
amarsh04 | I still want to find a gsm sim card reader that works in linux | Jan 27 20:21 |
amarsh04 | anyone want the weather from here? 32 C at 7am, 44 C max forecast | Jan 27 20:23 |
PetoKraus | i'd like to get linux-compatible thermometer | Jan 27 20:25 |
PetoKraus | ideally something serial- or usb- based | Jan 27 20:25 |
PetoKraus | though it's hard to find | Jan 27 20:25 |
trmanco | schestowitz, Did Red Hat layoff anyone? | Jan 27 20:25 |
amarsh04 | that should be easy, PetoKraus, although you might want a powered ethernet version so you could measure temperatures away from your pc easily | Jan 27 20:27 |
PetoKraus | amarsh04: i planned on putting it to a server which runs 24/7 | Jan 27 20:28 |
PetoKraus | in our hallway | Jan 27 20:28 |
PetoKraus | the temp is dropping in glasgow | Jan 27 20:28 |
amarsh04 | you want more than the cpu and disk temperatures then? | Jan 27 20:28 |
PetoKraus | down to 3€°C | Jan 27 20:29 |
PetoKraus | amarsh04: i want actually room temperature | Jan 27 20:29 |
amarsh04 | sounds better than 44 C | Jan 27 20:29 |
PetoKraus | yes, it does | Jan 27 20:29 |
PetoKraus | 25€°C is the max i can handle | Jan 27 20:29 |
PetoKraus | i'm like -15€°C - +25€°C outside | Jan 27 20:30 |
PetoKraus | *outdoors | Jan 27 20:30 |
trmanco | http://blog.flashden.net/industry-news/real... | Jan 27 20:32 |
schestowitz | trmanco: not that I know off Cox moved to Intel | Jan 27 20:32 |
schestowitz | *of | Jan 27 20:32 |
trmanco | ok | Jan 27 20:32 |
trmanco | só no layoffs for Red Hat | Jan 27 20:33 |
schestowitz | No, none | Jan 27 20:33 |
trmanco | I just saw a lie posted from a Microsoftie | Jan 27 20:33 |
trmanco | Bonus: In portuguese | Jan 27 20:33 |
PetoKraus | you get extra points | Jan 27 20:33 |
amarsh04 | I'll have to shut down the pc today... no airconditioning and the hard disk is reporting 57 C | Jan 27 20:34 |
PetoKraus | bloody hell | Jan 27 20:36 |
amarsh04 | it's an old samsung 40 GB | Jan 27 20:38 |
PetoKraus | yeah. Mine is dying as well, i think. Smart is not reporting anything bad (except of 28 failures in 7+k hours of lifetime) | Jan 27 20:40 |
PetoKraus | though from time to time the machine just freezes | Jan 27 20:40 |
PetoKraus | i'm pretty convinced it's the HDD because of the noise it does, and the way it freezes | Jan 27 20:41 |
schestowitz | Put it in the oven to shaw. | Jan 27 20:47 |
schestowitz | *thaw. | Jan 27 20:47 |
schestowitz | HP's crappy netbook: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100000056... | Jan 27 20:56 |
amarsh04 | I can read the hp forums at work and have seen a lot of disatisfaction over their netbooks and laptops | Jan 27 20:57 |
schestowitz | Have you seen this post. This is a travesty. | Jan 27 20:58 |
trmanco | http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives... | Jan 27 20:58 |
schestowitz | Millions of penguins? | Jan 27 20:58 |
schestowitz | Dollars don't matter.. those datacentres consume a lot of energy overall. | Jan 27 20:59 |
trmanco | millions of watts :-P | Jan 27 20:59 |
trmanco | good for the planet :-P | Jan 27 20:59 |
trmanco | schestowitz, HP's netbook is "Made for Windows", right? | Jan 27 21:00 |
schestowitz | Machines don't save electricity | Jan 27 21:00 |
schestowitz | They use it | Jan 27 21:00 |
schestowitz | Just like dietary nutrition doesn't make you lose fat | Jan 27 21:00 |
schestowitz | trmanco: some comes with Ballnux, but they are poor. | Jan 27 21:00 |
trmanco | but they can use too much electricity depending on what technologies you use (hardware, software) etc | Jan 27 21:00 |
trmanco | schestowitz, SusAA? | Jan 27 21:01 |
schestowitz | HP is not serious. It has problems with Microsoft, but that's where it has its money orgy | Jan 27 21:01 |
schestowitz | SasFF- | Jan 27 21:01 |
trmanco | laughed @ orgy | Jan 27 21:01 |
schestowitz | Like pigs in mud | Jan 27 21:02 |
amarsh04 | just looking at the post now schestowitz | Jan 27 21:02 |
schestowitz | This headline treats ERP like they are breasts (TV reference): http://advice.cio.com/thomas_wailgum/open_so... | Jan 27 21:04 |
amarsh04 | j.a. watson's comments... it reeks of just doing something "really quick" and not doing homework on why some things don't work. ie - did he ask on the distros' forums or mailing lists for help? | Jan 27 21:10 |
schestowitz | Microsoft 'open source' lackeys abound.... | Jan 27 21:11 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's new pet press on a Microsoft employees' spinoff: http://www.techflash.com/vent... | Jan 27 21:12 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's non-open source repo also called "open source" by their fan: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-039-s-Ope... | Jan 27 21:12 |
trmanco | success? | Jan 27 21:14 |
trmanco | more like a .NET failure | Jan 27 21:14 |
schestowitz | Don't say this out loud. Miguel reads BN, he might get offended. | Jan 27 21:21 |
trmanco | LOOOL | Jan 27 21:21 |
trmanco | Microsoft recommends reinstalling Windows | Jan 27 21:21 |
trmanco | I've done a search, but found no English article on this | Jan 27 21:22 |
trmanco | http://tek.sapo.pt/noticias/computadores/micr... | Jan 27 21:22 |
trmanco | http://www.inteco.es/Press/Latest_news_of_INTEC... | Jan 27 21:22 |
schestowitz | Miguel's illusions of grandeur are tied to the Vole | Jan 27 21:23 |
trmanco | http://translate.google.com/translate?p... | Jan 27 21:23 |
trmanco | http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&a... | Jan 27 21:23 |
schestowitz | restart app, reboot, reinstall (RRR) | Jan 27 21:24 |
trmanco | hey | Jan 27 21:24 |
trmanco | Windows is actually recycling? | Jan 27 21:24 |
trmanco | :-P | Jan 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | No. | Jan 27 21:24 |
MinceR | they recycle code | Jan 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | BSd | Jan 27 21:24 |
MinceR | even from CP/M | Jan 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | Steal? | Jan 27 21:25 |
schestowitz | hire engineer to rewrite | Jan 27 21:25 |
MinceR | pretty much | Jan 27 21:25 |
schestowitz | no so-called ip | Jan 27 21:25 |
MinceR | actually they rarely hire engineers | Jan 27 21:25 |
trmanco | engineer? no way, A 9 year old kid will do | Jan 27 21:25 |
schestowitz | They buy them | Jan 27 21:25 |
MinceR | afaik it happened once, when they hired some guys from DEC to write NT | Jan 27 21:25 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0... | Jan 27 21:26 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php... | Jan 27 21:27 |
amarsh04 | I registered on zdnet.co.uk and posted a comment on j.a. watson's hp 2133 article | Jan 27 21:35 |
schestowitz | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_t... | Jan 27 21:41 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: yes, good comments. Watson is one of the good guys. He didn't deliberately break it. | Jan 27 21:42 |
amarsh04 | yes, I was pleasantly surprised how preston gralla responded to comments on his "2 weeks with ubuntu" post | Jan 27 21:47 |
amarsh04 | I just think that if you have ongoing contact with a distro, it's worth getting a report or few in their bug tracker | Jan 27 21:49 |
trmanco | http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/977 | Jan 27 21:49 |
trmanco | http://www.italovignoli.org/2009/01/openoff... | Jan 27 21:49 |
schestowitz | preston gralla is better off not fed. Not corrected nor flamed. He's a Windows dinosaur... let those rest. | Jan 27 21:50 |
schestowitz | trmanco: it was the same with ODf | Jan 27 21:51 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is a group of gangsters... they'll call it a 'mistake' or 'error' | Jan 27 21:52 |
schestowitz | I think they did the same to Linux... actually, yet, they did. I also have several posts in BN about Microsoft's systematic manipulation of its search engine backed by the observations from others. | Jan 27 21:53 |
trmanco | good thing nobody uses it | Jan 27 21:54 |
trmanco | Live | Jan 27 21:54 |
schestowitz | 5% | Jan 27 21:54 |
trmanco | schestowitz, of what? do bots count? | Jan 27 21:54 |
schestowitz | I don't know. | Jan 27 21:54 |
schestowitz | Depends who measures it and when | Jan 27 21:54 |
trmanco | remove the bots from that 5% and you have the real result... | Jan 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | Time for Munckin spanking in COLA :-) | Jan 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | trmanco: the one that reports 5% (down from 9%) might already cull them out | Jan 27 21:56 |
trmanco | I just wonder why I receive hits from Live with MSN IP's which have a search query in the referral link | Jan 27 21:56 |
PetoKraus | it works in Glasgow | Jan 27 21:56 |
PetoKraus | oh well | Jan 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | trmanco: probably one-word queries | Jan 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | Like "Microsoft" or "tool" or "loser" | Jan 27 21:57 |
trmanco | I actually follow the search engine referral link but I don't see my pages within the first 5 pages | Jan 27 21:57 |
schestowitz | They mess up many people's referral logs | Jan 27 21:57 |
trmanco | I ought to block those stupid botnets soon in my robots file | Jan 27 21:57 |
schestowitz | They should be utterly ashamed of themselves, but hey... it's not as though criminals have a sense of sle pride to begin with. | Jan 27 21:57 |
schestowitz | trmanco: don't follow the links | Jan 27 21:58 |
schestowitz | That's what their spamming is good for | Jan 27 21:58 |
schestowitz | It leads people to thinking that Microsoft Got Game, then they explore | Jan 27 21:58 |
PetoKraus | ffs that guy is totally stupid | Jan 27 21:59 |
trmanco | schestowitz, just following a couple of links won't hurt, I think | Jan 27 21:59 |
PetoKraus | "at least for italy this is not true, as you can see from the screenshot" | Jan 27 21:59 |
PetoKraus | THERE'S NO openoffice.org result you MORON! | Jan 27 21:59 |
trmanco | LOL | Jan 27 22:00 |
trmanco | calm down :-P | Jan 27 22:00 |
PetoKraus | i am calm, don't worry | Jan 27 22:00 |
trmanco | ok | Jan 27 22:00 |
PetoKraus | :) | Jan 27 22:00 |
trmanco | :-P | Jan 27 22:00 |
schestowitz | PetoKraus: what do you mean? | Jan 27 22:01 |
PetoKraus | schestowitz: http://www.italovignoli.org/2009/01/openofficeorg... | Jan 27 22:02 |
PetoKraus | he claims it works correctly in italy | Jan 27 22:02 |
PetoKraus | first result - plio.it; second result - plio.it; third result - javaopenbusiness.it; fourth result yacme.com | Jan 27 22:03 |
PetoKraus | works PERFECTLY. | Jan 27 22:03 |
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schestowitz | ic.. | Jan 27 22:10 |
trmanco | http://blue-gnu.biz/content/st... | Jan 27 22:18 |
PetoKraus | yeah, helios had nice blogs in past few days | Jan 27 22:19 |
trmanco | cool -> http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/20... | Jan 27 22:28 |
trmanco | schestowitz, still no tuxmachines? | Jan 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | No. | Jan 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | Very weird | Jan 27 22:35 |
trmanco | try this http://67.33.45.3/ | Jan 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | She hosts it on Gentoo @ home | Jan 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | She recently made some changed | Jan 27 22:36 |
schestowitz | But it hardly even resolves, so I assume the server is unreachable/down | Jan 27 22:36 |
trmanco | http://www.junauza.com/2009/01/tux... | Jan 27 22:36 |
schestowitz | Was itDNS? | Jan 27 22:36 |
trmanco | not sure, just problems | Jan 27 22:37 |
schestowitz | I left a comment | Jan 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | Look at # of pageviews | Jan 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | Almost no-one visits TM while DNS is kaput | Jan 27 22:38 |
trmanco | yep | Jan 27 22:39 |
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schestowitz | It's slow | Jan 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | And I can hardly get the RSS feed this way | Jan 27 22:39 |
trmanco | yes, I forgot to say that | Jan 27 22:39 |
_paco_ | hi | Jan 27 22:39 |
trmanco | my feed is working | Jan 27 22:40 |
schestowitz | Hey, _paco_, what's up? | Jan 27 22:40 |
trmanco | hi | Jan 27 22:40 |
_paco_ | I just saw on the internet that today this chan is up, so I came, to boycott | Jan 27 22:40 |
schestowitz | This channel is always up :-D | Jan 27 22:41 |
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schestowitz | Hi, ap0kal1pt4ya | Jan 27 22:43 |
_paco_ | I saw it on crunchgear | Jan 27 22:43 |
schestowitz | Really? | Jan 27 22:43 |
_paco_ | that's my homie | Jan 27 22:43 |
ap0kal1pt4ya | hi all | Jan 27 22:43 |
schestowitz | Hey | Jan 27 22:43 |
_paco_ | against deals, for freedom, dimi ap0kal1pt4ya | Jan 27 22:44 |
ap0kal1pt4ya | yes _paco_ | Jan 27 22:45 |
ap0kal1pt4ya | for freedom | Jan 27 22:45 |
schestowitz | Patents are one among more issues | Jan 27 22:45 |
schestowitz | The good news is that we (not just BN) are gradually winning this ideaological battle | Jan 27 22:45 |
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ap0kal1pt4ya | I agree withh you schestowitz | Jan 27 22:49 |
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schestowitz | What was on Crunchgear? | Jan 27 22:51 |
schestowitz | Other than a rebuttal to ZDNet FUD? | Jan 27 22:51 |
_paco_ | http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/... | Jan 27 22:51 |
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_paco_ | responses there i saw the chan | Jan 27 22:51 |
*schestowitz looks | Jan 27 22:53 |
schestowitz | I think I know Scott Merrill. | Jan 27 22:54 |
schestowitz | That's the guy who used to be one of us WordPress hackers. | Jan 27 22:54 |
schestowitz | Yes, it's him: http://skippy.net/ | Jan 27 22:54 |
schestowitz | Hm..... he got divorced... http://skippy.net/its-complicated | Jan 27 22:55 |
schestowitz | I remember when he threw the towel at WordPress and left us... quite a scene... he was bug gardener for a whole. | Jan 27 22:55 |
schestowitz | *while | Jan 27 22:55 |
schestowitz | "In July 2008, my wife and I separated. She and the kids have moved away. As of this writing, the divorce proceedings are not yet finalized. So in the eyes of the law, I'm still married. I haven't told many people, other than my close friends, because there's no easy way to communicate the situation to casual acquaintances, coworkers, and the various folks that knew us." | Jan 27 22:56 |
PetoKraus | is the font weird for you as well? | Jan 27 23:06 |
schestowitz | In Techcrunch? Crunchgear? | Jan 27 23:07 |
PetoKraus | skippy.net | Jan 27 23:08 |
schestowitz | No, it's looks all right. I didn't know he had become an author in some places. | Jan 27 23:08 |
PetoKraus | uhm | Jan 27 23:08 |
PetoKraus | must be some annoying proxy then | Jan 27 23:08 |
schestowitz | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?... | Jan 27 23:09 |
PetoKraus | modpoints! | Jan 27 23:11 |
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MinceR | gn | Jan 27 23:37 |
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