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Ostracise Miguel de Icaza Like Stephen Elop Should Have Been Ostracised From Nokia

Miguel de Icaza wants a Windows strategy inside GNU/Linux

Miguel de Icaza
Wikipedia image modified for humourous purposes (this Wikipedia article about Miguel de Icaza says that "[i]"n summer of 1997, he was interviewed by Microsoft for a job in the Internet Explorer Unix team")



Summary: More news about the Trojan horses that are Mono and Moonlight, more lies from the Mono team are outlined, and a warning about what Miguel de Icaza and his minions are doing to GNU/Linux

APPENDED below is a chat log from 8-9 hours ago (we cannot verify some of the claims made there). While I was asleep somebody called "jjabraham" told us that Canonical's altercations with Mono seem to be escalating. It is said that the public record is insufficient because the only Web links we got about it are from OMG!Ubuntu! (Mono sympathiser) and the Mono Lobby, as one author called it after we had used/coined the term.



From OMG!Ubuntu!:

With Banshee selected as Ubuntu 11.04′s default music player one question has been circling our minds: will there be two music stores enabled by default, or just one? And if one – which one?


From a Banshee developer, who ought to know that Banshee is a patent trap:



The Banshee maintainers and community have been proud to support GNOME by sending 100% of our FOSS Amazon MP3 store's affiliate revenue to the Foundation.

[...]

After choosing Banshee as the next default player in Ubuntu, Canonical approached us, concerned with how our Amazon store would affect their Ubuntu One store.


Mono inside GNU/Linux is like Elop inside Nokia or Microsoft Florian pretending to speak for "FOSS". It is a Trojan horse, accompanied by even bigger Trojan horses like Moonlight with the MPEG cartel's own Trojan horses inside it. Novell's and Microsoft's MVP Miguel de Icaza, who loves the Nokia-Microsoft deal by the way, keeps mimicking dead products like Silver Lie, trying to still give them a boost inside GNU/Linux! Miguel de Icaza too is like an Elop inside GNU/Linux and he deserves to be ostracised for the damage he keeps doing to software freedom. Dr. Richard Stallman has called Miguel de Icaza "a traitor to the Free software community" and quite rightly so based on the continued behaviour of this Trojan horse. De Icaza and his minions used to curse and defame critics -- yours truly included -- for saying that Moonlight would bring Mono to computers via Web-imposed dependencies. They used to deny the Mono dependency, but they lied. That's right, they lied, as usual. In fact, the homepage of Moonlight is right inside the Mono site, which only proves the Mono lobby to be a group of liars, to whom saying lies in order to help their Microsoft agenda would seem acceptable.

If there is anything to learn from the imminent death of Nokia [1, 2, 3, 4] it's that Miguel de Icaza should be forcibly removed from GNU/Linux like Elop should have been removed from Nokia on the same day he entered the company, given Ballmer's own blessings which were posted in Microsoft.com.




*jjabraham has joined #techrightsFeb 16 00:50
jjabrahamdid you guys see mono devs attacking canonical earlier today?Feb 16 00:50
jjabrahamsome fight about banshee and canonicalFeb 16 00:51
jjabrahamschestowitz?Feb 16 00:52
DaemonFChalf of Ubuntu Desktop is mono-related in 11.04Feb 16 00:52
DaemonFCthe other half is a bastard fork of GNOME that's brokenFeb 16 00:53
DaemonFCKubuntu has survived this unscathed Feb 16 00:53
jjabrahamwe can hope that canonical has now seen the true side of mono boostersFeb 16 00:54
jjabrahamafter they were attackedFeb 16 00:55
jjabrahamand will now drop banshee like the black plague that it isFeb 16 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Emisia programelor Deutsche Welle, bruiată intenţionat http://is.gd/7blpKYFeb 16 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Emisia programelor Deutsche Welle, bruiată intenÅ£ionat  | Societate | Deutsche Welle | 15.02.2011 .::. Size~: 43.19 KBFeb 16 00:55
DaemonFCI guess I have Ubuntu to thank for trying out KDE 4.x againFeb 16 00:56
DaemonFCI would have kept using GNOME if they hadn't managed to ruin their implementation of itFeb 16 00:56
jjabrahamdon't know too much about what happened between mono / canonicalFeb 16 00:58
jjabrahamjust heard there was some fight or anotherFeb 16 00:58
DaemonFCwell, free ATI drivers have hit a snagFeb 16 00:58
jjabrahamabout money (who'd a guessed?)Feb 16 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to crash the Internet http://is.gd/Qyqp6gFeb 16 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] German takeover of the New York Stock Exchange http://is.gd/asXOLJ #casinonewsFeb 16 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to crash the Internet | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 147.91 KBFeb 16 00:59
*trmanco (~trmanco@d72-39-88-249.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #techrightsFeb 16 00:59
*trmanco has quit (Changing host)Feb 16 00:59
*trmanco (~trmanco@unaffiliated/trmanco) has joined #techrightsFeb 16 00:59
DaemonFCnow you need a patent-encumbered library for s3 texture compression supportFeb 16 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:        NYSE traders say yes to Germany, no to lederhosen | Reuters  .::. Size~: 77.41 KBFeb 16 00:59
DaemonFCand if you don't provide it, a lot of games will just crashFeb 16 00:59
jjabrahamthat sucksFeb 16 00:59
DaemonFCglad I'm in the US, now I can add s3tc support to my list of batteries not includedFeb 16 01:00
DaemonFC:)Feb 16 01:00
jjabrahamanywho, came to techrights.org tonight to see if schestowitz had mentioned the banshee/canonical fightFeb 16 01:00
jjabrahamso I could read up on itFeb 16 01:00
jjabrahambut no mentionFeb 16 01:00
DaemonFCis there a link?Feb 16 01:00
jjabrahamwill have to ask around tomorrow to find out what happenedFeb 16 01:01
jjabrahamno, don't have a linkFeb 16 01:01
jjabrahamI was linked to a few twitter messages earlier by a coworkerFeb 16 01:02
jjabrahambut I didn't get the full storyFeb 16 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Don't hesitate | http://bit.ly/hYlOHV #oywfFeb 16 01:02
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jjabrahamjust enough to see there was a fightFeb 16 01:02
jjabrahammono devs being greedy, etcFeb 16 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: Google: Android activations up to 350,000 a day - http://bit.ly/dPS0tTFeb 16 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: Android activations up to 350,000 a day €» Eurodroid .::. Size~: 25.62 KBFeb 16 01:03
jjabrahamah, looks like it was related to some music storeFeb 16 01:05
jjabrahamhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/banshee-to-ship-with-ubuntu-music-store-in-ubuntu-11-04/ has a very vague summaryFeb 16 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee to ship with Ubuntu Music Store in Ubuntu 11.04 .::. Size~: 95.3 KBFeb 16 01:06
jjabrahamhttp://gburt.blogspot.com/2011/02/banshee-supporting-gnome-on-ubuntu.html has moreFeb 16 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gabriel Burt's Blog: Banshee Supporting GNOME on Ubuntu .::. Size~: 61.66 KBFeb 16 01:07
jjabrahamok, well time for dinnerFeb 16 01:08
jjabrahamnightFeb 16 01:08
*jjabraham has quit (Quit: Page closed)Feb 16 01:08


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