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Re: newsgroup creation RFD - draft

> Here is a draft RFD. Discussion please?

I like it, but I think there are some details missing.

> RATIONALE: all groups
> 
> To introduce ourselves, Debian GNU/Linux is a completely free Linux
> distribution produced by the non-profit organization "Software in the
> Public Interest". To learn about Debian, check out our web page
> http://www.debian.org/ .

Add something like
"Currently, users of Debian GNU/Linux are assisted by other users and 
 Debian developers via a number of mailing lists, some of which have
 very high volume. Usenet is generally considered a more appropriate
 medium for such a volume. Although these lists are currently gated
 through to the linux.* hierarchy, this hierarchy reaches far fewer
 Linux users than a regular Usenet group would."

> CHARTER: comp.os.linux.debian.nontech
> 
> For discussion at a low technical level by users of the Debian GNU/Linux
> system. No commercial or off-topic traffic is allowed.

I'd prefer that commercial traffic relevant to Debian GNU/Linux be allowed.
Given the current increase in interest in Debian, it is not unlikely
that
- commercial software for the Linux market will be distributed in .deb format,
  e.g. Motif, commercial X servers, Wordperfect and such
or even that 
- a Caldera-like commercial Linux on top of Debian will be developed

I don't think we should discriminate against commercial activities in this
respect, especially since we want to keep good relationships with Red Hat,
and want to make Debian the base system to be the base of other
distributions ("Son of GNU").

Also, this group would be the approprate forum for discussing fixes to
commercially distributed versions of Debian, if this restriction weren't
present. (I'm thinking of something like the problem with symlinks on
the recent I-connect CDs, or "archive fubar-1.2.3-4.deb is corrupt on
the recent MegaMoney 50-CD set").

> CHARTER: comp.os.linux.debian.tech
> 
> For discussion at a high technical level by users of the Debian GNU/Linux
> system. No commercial or off-topic traffic is allowed.

If someone wants to produce commercial software in .deb format, what would
be the appropriate channel? debian-devel?

The last thing that isn't obvious to me, is which channel is appropriate
for issues involving the use of Debian software on non-Debian systems.
Do we want this to go in a regular c.o.l.* group?

Ray
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