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Re: Continuous Releases?



On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

> [ Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. ]
> 
> Craig Sanders:
> > However, I think that "frozen" should MEAN "frozen".
> 
> Substituting "rex" for "frozen", it is. Stable isn't -- it
> gets fixed when there are problems (and there always will be,
> regardless of the amount of testing).

To be honest, I would like to see debian NOT do so many point
releases.  A point release should be reserved for changing
something in an otherwise frozen release.  The updates and fixed
links should remain for convenience, but Debian-1.3 should _not_
include updates put in place after its initial release.  I would
also like to see updates split up into updates and
security-updates.  That would clearly identify fixes to security
issues.

That would leave us with:

Debian-1.3 as a link to frozen.
stable as a link to bo-fixed
bo-fixed as a mixed bag of links to frozen and bo-updates 
	+ bo-security-updates
bo-updates would be newer packages than in frozen that fix bugs
	we think can't wait for the next release.
bo-security-updates would be newer packages than in forzen that
	fix security problems.

Point releases would be reserved for significant changes in the
release, such as a library update that effects many packages.  If
there winds up being a large number of updates, then a point
release to consolidate them may be in order as well.  If there
are so many changes, it probably looks like a different release
anyway, so a point release is more honest than just having the
<name>-updates and links in <name>-fixed.

I also think that point releases could be scheduled.  If we have
a set of goals that we come just short of for a release date, we
should make an initial release that's stable and issue a point
release with the additional functionality intended for the
original release.

> 
> We have rex, rex-updates, and rex-fixed, with stable pointing
> at rex-fixed. We need all three.

See above for my thoughts on adding <name>-security-updates

> > Users should be referred to "live" aka "unstable" for any updates.
> 
> No.

Agreed.

Richard G. Roberto
richr@bear.com
011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan


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