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Re: dpkg issues

On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> From: Christoph <debian@waterf.org>
> > They have been pointed out over and over and over again. There are obvious
> > design flaws in dpkg that are not addressed. There are issues with dselect
> > that are never addressed. There is a huge bug list that is not worked on.
> 
> > Instead of working on the issues Ian attacks those trying to offer
> > solutions
> 
> I'm afraid I have to agree with these points. It's been obvious for a while
> that dpkg is the biggest problem with Debian. I sincerely believe we should
> have given up the fight and made the switch to RPM a while ago. I think it's
> time to do so now.
> 
> 

I hope nobody minds that I didn't trim the headers.

Could someone please tell me which of the deficiencies in dpkg
rpm addresses?  Does changing everything from our existing system
over to another one (over which we have not control) magically
fix everything wrong?  I seriously doubt it.  I think this would
be a serious mistake.  The number of new problems would certainly
out weigh the (as yet unmentioned) enhancements to dpkg we'd get
by changing to rpm.  Debian would become just another redhat
reseller.  What would be the point?  Wouldn't our user base be
better off using a redhat system from redhat instead of getting
everything second hand from us?

If debian were to do become a redhat reseller, the project would
have to change drastically.  Instead of producing an operating
system, it may then be wiser to add value to redhats instead.  Is
this where we really want to go?  Please think this through.  The
level of planning and organization required to pull something
like this off is greater than what this project is currently
geared for, unless we're talking about throwing in the towel.

Hell, why don't we just switch over to NT?  They have an even
larger install base than redhat.

Richard G. Roberto
richr@bear.com
011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan


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