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Re: Unidentified subject!


On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I think Debian would be better served by RPM as a package system for
> many reasons. We could abandon this deb-make/dpkg/dselect sillyness. We
> could be using the package system that Red Hat, Caldera, and
> _EVERY_OTHER_ Linux distribution that has a package system is using
> now.

Well, it seems that you are pretty bad informed.

> What we are doing now is going off in our own non-standard direction
> and continuing to re-invent our own invention. Red Hat did the package
> system better,

Better definitely not. It is more simple minded and lets you break your
system very easily.

> and simpler,

Simpler, yes. 

> than we did, and the entire rest of the
> Linux world has adopted their work.

Your world must be pretty small, Bruce.

Look at Linux-FT, SuSE, etc. None of them use .rpm.

> Who else is using dpkg?

We are using it, isn't that enough ?

> Rather than talk about re-inventing deb-make, we should be exploring
> how to convert deb-make packages to RPM ones automaticaly.
> 
> Guys, we lost the fight. It's time to admit it.

I've got the feeling that you are not the best person for 
the position you are in right now. With this attitude the whole GNU
system would have never come to life. There were other systems, which were
better, had less problems, but still RMS didn't give up and continued.

Switching to .rpm would mean that you turn all the work hundereds of
people have put int Debian into a bad joke. This immediately voids Debian
and the strange "Software in the public interrest" Corp.

I can remember that we two had this argument before.
Only with reversed sides......

Mike

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mike@i-Connect.Net             Home of the Debian Master Server.
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