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Re: [RFC] Restructuring of the Debian Project



'Mike Neuffer wrote:'
>
>No, it is not that the other packages should not be tested.
>It is that the core should not be released if there are problems.
>
>It is a MUST for the core and a less restrictive situation for the rest.
>
>The core ensures that you have _functional_ machine _without_ conflicts
>and problems. The additional packages must of course also be tested,
>but are a "second tier".

The fallacy here is that it is possible for a non-core package to
break the core system.  Bad maintainer scripts, bad control file
information and the like.  Therefore, the non-core parts should not be
released if they break the system in any serious way as well.

To date it requires experienced developers to look at new packages and
try to spot (or worse experience) such bugs.  A debcheck mechanism may allow
automation of this, but it would still be possible to slip a serious
error into a maintainer script.

Even when you look beyond the packaging issues, fatal interactions among
software can cause a non-core part of the system to break the whole
system (mainly only daemons can do this).  For example, I could care
less if mgetty failed to work correctly (for many people it's not
core), but if it corrupts wtmp then it's a serious problem (not to say
that mgetty is guilty of this, I think we haven't identified the cause
of this bug yet - it's just a for instance of a non-core package whose
serious bug would adversely affect the whole system).

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