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Re: SUGGESTION: Let's choose a logo now!

My problem with the current selection is, there isn't a logo in the bunch!
All I see is trademarks, or trademarks wrapped around someone else's logo.
This is particularly true of the most popular item of the group. This is
Linus's logo for Linux with a Debian ribbon wrapped around it. Even the
very origional Bull image (possibly confusing as to image) only made it up
near the top of the popularity poll by adding the trademark.
It should be understood that the logo will most always be shown in close
proximity to the trademark, but they are different items.
In case I have been confusing in my use of terms, the word "Debian" or the
phrase "Debian GNU/Linux" are possible trademarks for this product. The
logo should be a simple geometrical construct that is easily reproducable
in black on white paper (or any other solid dark color) and be something
that stays on your retina after you look at it (easy visual memory)
I got tired of using the AT&T logo (The Death Star) as an example and went
looking for another example. One of the envelopes in my "junk" pile came
from The Chase Manhatten Bank. Their logo is a simple geometrical circle,
hexagonal on the outer edge and square on the inner edge, constructed of
right trapazoids placed together to form the image. The word CHASE is
always to the side of this logo, at least on the envelope, but it is clear
what the logo is.
A logo should be reducable to a rubber stamp without loss of definition.
It should be recognizable at the size of a postage stamp in the corner of
a package or envelope. None of the candidates of the web page meet either
of these criterion. (with the possible exception of the bull, when not
associated with any text)
What ever happened to the capital D made to look as though it were a gear,
with teeth along the curve of the letter and spokes for the virtical line?
Although the original image I saw of this was way too busy, with lots of
shading detail, it came the closest to a logo of anything I have seen so
far.
To end on a positive note with reguard to the man contributions on the web
page, there are more than a few that contain exceptional artwork and much
creative imagry, many that I liked for that they were, even if that wasn't
a logo.

Waiting is,

Dwarf
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