SPI and people's dignity

[alegre@saturn.superlink.net (Fernando)]

I am participating in a discussion in debian-admintool.

Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> and I have very different points of view
about certain aspects of the design.

However, the tone of Craig went up too much as to insult me in a public
list:

"save your paranoid delusions for your shrink.  i'm not interested in them"
"I have no more time for you or your stupid ideas"

I complained privately to Bruce, asking him to calm Craig down, but he
justified him, saying that it was me who provoked him.

I see clear insults in Craig's message. I don't see any insult in any of my
messages. Does this mean that some people's dignity is considered by SPI
as more valuable than others'?

If this is a case of double standards I am not going to keep silent about it.

Maybe Bruce decides to "censor" my messages. Or maybe he uses his power to
remove me from the list, but until that moment I am going to protest.

Please Bruce answer my questions:

Did Craig do right insulting me in a public list?

Can you justify him?

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The whole message is here:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Fernando wrote:
> 
> > Craig> yes, i agree - it would be useless on something like /etc/fstab.
> > 
> > Excuse me, but you have everything wrong: /etc/fstab is precisely one of
> > the files for which a _smart_ parser can easily be constructed.
> 
> in your fantasies, i guess that might be true.
> 
> > This means that there is no need at all of a template for such an easy
> > file. Parsing the values directly to the database is almost 100% accurate
> > in that case.
> 
> big deal. you've found ONE config file which may, in some circumstances,
> not need a template. even when those particular circumstances are met,
> it still needs other control information to define the table and to specify
> the layout of the data-entry form in the GUI.
> 
> In any case, parsing entries into the database is a completely separate
> issue from what Brian and I were talking about which was a parser to
> generate a template.
> 
> Finally, "almost 100%" accurate isn't good enough, because less than
> 100% accuracy means you are putting garbage into the database. That
> doesn't seem to matter much to you.
> 
> 
> > >From your opinions I infer that you really don't want to have a database,
> > and you are trying to push your absurdly complex templates in order to
> > destroy the benefits of having a database.
> 
> and why the fuck would i want to do that? Maybe i'm really a spy from
> Microsoft sent here to destroy the free-software world? and it's your
> duty as The Man Who Recognised The Danger to stop me!!!
> 
> save your paranoid delusions for your shrink.  i'm not interested in them.
> 
> 
> > Don't attempt to replace the database with templates because your model is
> > going to be a complete failure for something as complex as managing all
> > the configuration of a system.
> 
> stop being such a complete prat.
> 
> databases are for storing data, not control information.
> 
> you keep on coming up with more and more ludicrous ideas because you
> can't admit that you were wrong.
> 
> 
> I have no more time for you or your stupid ideas.  There is no point in
> discussing them rationally because they are irrational to begin with.
> 
> 
> 
> craig
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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