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Re: SPI and people's dignity

From: alegre@saturn.superlink.net (Fernando)
> I have been insulted in a public list. I asked you to calm the offender down
> and you basically replied me that I deserve to be insulted.

By refusing to drop this issue, you may be in danger of convincing some people
that you really do need to be insulted :-)

> You may be the leader, but this does not entitle you to treat me or anyone
> with contempt.

I do the very best I can to treat everyone honorably. 
Craig should apologize for calling you names in my opinion. That's all that
I think should be done. I don't think I should force him to do so. I have
censured other people when I've felt it's called for. The most recent person
to be censured was Lars, because he is a leader of the Linux community and
makes a bigger impression on people than Craig does. With that greater
impression comes responsibility.

There is something that I will do for you: I will apologize to you
myself for whatever offense was made. I will do this because my dignity
in the face of small slights isn't more important than getting the job done.

> Please be aware of what you are impliying.

Please do not assume that I am implying anything that I have not stated.

> If you support a flawed design and don't want to discuss it any longer,
> say so.

I am willing to support some amount of flaws in the design, depending on what
their consequences are. This is a fundamental part of engineering - you weigh
costs and decide on the best answer, _not_ the perfect answer, because there
_is_no_ perfect answer. I happen to disagree with you on what is the right
answer for this project. This is an engineering decision, it's not that I am
rejecting your idea because I don't like you or anything like that.

> I am not going to keep silent until then.

OK, but I'm not sure people are getting a favorable impression of you this way.

> Respectfully, Bruce, you are showing more prejudice than I expected.

I'm not so sure that prejudice against you is involved here.

	Bruce Perens
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