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Re: There are _TWO_ discussions here

On 29 Jul 1997, Guy Maor wrote:

> Just in case it's not emminently clear to all, there are two things
> being discussed here.

Thanks for the clarification. I really think that some people here don't
know what we are talking about.

> First, Christian and I (and possibly others), want to make contrib
> packages DFSG compliant.  This is an important issue, and practically
> nobody has responded to it.

Right.

> Second, lots of people want to talk about packages with US export
> restrictions.  This discussion is dead as far as I'm concerned.  I
> agree that our current solution is discriminatory, inconsistent, and
> just terrible.  But it's very simple.
> 
> There are technical ways to solve the problem, yes, with lots of
> symlinks or customized mirror scripts, but they are very complicated
> and put more work on archive maintainers, CD manufacturers, and mirror
> sites.  I don't think it's worth it.

There has been another proposal presented in debian-devel I think, which
we should perhaps consider:

The non-us master server (os.inf.tu-dresden.de) could "merge" the
US-distribution (from master.debian.org) and the non-US distribution. This
could either be done by just placing the "non-us" directory in the archive
or by putting the packages into the appropriate main/contrib/non-free
sections. 

This way, people (or mirror sites) in the US can just mirror from
master/ftp.debian.org and download the non-us stuff as now. But all other
people outside the US could change their mirror site to dresden and
download the _full_ distribution. (Of course, we would have to check first
if dresden could handle that much traffic--but we might find perhaps
another server in the ``free world''.)

> The confusing part is that both discussions are intermingled and being
> discussed with the same subject.

Yes, the subjects are really misleading :-)


Thanks,

Chris

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