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Re: There are _TWO_ discussions here



On 29 Jul 1997, Guy Maor wrote:

> Alex Yukhimets <aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu> writes:
> 
> > Namely, will the DFSG-compliant contrib be included into the
> > Official CD?
> 
> Bruce has not explicitly said that, but I expect he will.  The whole
> basis for the contrib removal was because that software was not
> DFSG-free.

Right. It would be good if Bruce would tell us what he thinks about this.

But even if he says "no", we should probably not merge "non-free" and
"contrib". Note, that this was initially my suggestion, but some people
here have pointed out that this seperation is still useful for others CD
manufacturers, for example the "Vitamin D" project.

> > Will it be considered as part of the Debian? 

What do you mean "as part of Debian"? I don't think we would accept
"contrib" packages as part of the "Debian GNU/Linux distribution" since
this is what "main" is for. However, the packages will be treated, just as
the name says, "contributions". (That is, we support these packages, etc.)

> > I bet that someone will soon figure out that this would mean having
> > Motif applications as a part of a Debian

Nobody said that this change (contrib=DFSG) will consider contrib as main.
(Otherwise, we would have to merge "main" and "contrib"--this is _not_
what we want.)

> > (absolutely impossible thing,
> > having dependence on  standard _proprietary_ software- no way!!!
> 
> That's the point.  contrib is DFSG-free but not self-contained.  It
> depends for use or build on non-free, contrib, non-US, other
> proprietary software.

Right.


I think everybody should consider that makeing "contrib=DFSG" will just
move only six (6) packages to non-free--that's all. (Are these 6 packages
really worth this discussion? We should better spend our time on more
important things.)


Thanks,

Chris

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