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Re: Can I interest anyone in RPM?

On Wed 24 Sep 1997, Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote:
> > switiching to rpm is 90% marketing and 10% new features
> 
> Well, I thought, Debian was about making good software not good marketing?

that is true. but we should at least try to do both.

> I don't know, I won't install a distribution that makes too much hype -
> which is why I got to Debian. To me it's more important what kind of
> feedback I get from the technical side, rather than what the marketing
> guys said.

lets say it this way : _we_ can do both,
good marketing _and_ good software (ok, we have problems with marketing).

> > lets create a new and improved version of rpm (maybe by merging rpm and
> > deb). it may look like deb, taste like deb and work like deb. but it
> > must have the name "rpm" and all distributions must use it.
> 
> Why that? Why not trying to improve dpkg even further and trying to make
> Redhat switch their package manager? I.e. we supply an improved dpkg, they
> supply their installation GUIs? Why should Debian be "assimilated"?

we will never be able to get redhat and all other distributions to use
dpkg. but we might get them to use a new version of rpm, that is fully
compatible with old versions, has also a deb compatibility mode, and
supports debian style of creating packages. 
this version should also fix some bugs and introduce new features (like
international language support) needed by many other distributions.

> > switch to rpm ! make debian the best distribution and the base
> > distribution of choice !
> 
> Well, with RPM (*REDHAT* Package Manager) *REDHAT* will stay the
> distribution of choice.

no. i don't think so.caldera doesn't use redhat, you know ?
(their distribution is rpm based, but not redhat). 
IMO building a distribution takes more and more work. and i think that
someday companies will consider switiching to be a value added
distribution, and let others do the work. i want to make debian the base
distribution for this choice.

andreas


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