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Re: The "free software community" does not include Linus

Oh drat, here I go again, stepping inside another argument :-)

I think the point is MOOT.  What do we care.  I know this is an
offshoot of the KDE question.

Debian SHOULD remain strongly commited to free software, be it
licensed under GPL, Artistic, BSD, or some other license.  As long as
it is free.  Debian shows what free software can do.

Debian also should be functional -- it needs to provide programs that
users will like and enjoy.

Sometimes programs that users like aren't free.  In this case, we
would either have to reject it or make a free one ourselves.
Obviously, we cannot always make a free one ourselves.  Therefore, we
have a compromise -- the non-free and contrib sections.

The compromise is already there.  WHY ARE WE ARGUING???

Alex Yukhimets <aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu> writes:

> > The big problem with this definition is that it leaves out I guess more
> > than 80% of the linux people. Linus himself would not qualify for being a
> > member of this community since I am certain he does not agree to your
> > very dogmatic view of free-software. I pretty much identify with the
> > statement of Linus gives below. Bruce, really I think we should get this
> > dogmatic I-need-to-force-the-GPL-on-all-people streak out of the Debian.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I completely agree with that. And I guess substantial number of
> maintainers also agree. And please, don't tell me that
> overwhelming majority voted for DFSG which proves I am wrong.
> I myself also voted for DFSG by not for dogmatic approach to other
> software. Our methods must be flexible for sure, but even our goals
> should be flexible as time change lots of things.
> 
> Bruce, if you noticed the reaction of Debian community was
> mostly negative on you treatment of Debian+KDE thing. 
> Doesn't it give you a clue that this dogamtic politics is not 
> popular (anymore). And even if you will be elected, that doesn't mean
> anything, unfortunatly we don't have a candidate from the "moderate"
> wing.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alex Y.
> 
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