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Re: giving money to gnome

beh@icemark.ch (Benedikt Eric Heinen)  wrote on 20.11.97 in <Pine.LNX.3.96.971120082005.909C-100000@fenun.icemark.ch>:

> > Debian is free software - one would expect that we could use the
> > donations we get from it in any way we want. Obviously, it's in our
> > interest to promote free software.
>
> This sounds very much like Microsofts per-processor-licenses a couple of
> years back. Obviously these were in M$ interest to promote their profits.
> But - Microsoft got money for each sold PC - even if no Microsoft OS was
> on there. Even if you chose a PC with Linux, Microsoft got money from it.
>
> Now - you are doing the same in the free software arena. You are giving
> money to one future desktop replacement - even if it came from people
> convinced to buy the CDrom by KDE another desktop.

That's ridiculous. There is absolutely no parallel at all. The money we  
use we get from CDs that have the product we get the money for - Debian.

And what we do with the money has absolutely no relation to that question  
- nobody had a problem with the way MS _used_ the money they got from the  
per-processor licenses, they had a problem with how they _got_ that money.

The parallel action would be for us to say "you can sell product X, and  
give out Debian with X to some people, and not give Debian with X to some  
other people, but you must pay us Y amount for every copy of X you give  
out."

Which is, of course, not even remotely connected to what we do.

I think you owe an apology.


MfG Kai


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