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Re: not a first amendment question



olly@lfix.co.uk (Oliver Elphick)  wrote on 30.11.97 in <199711301605.QAA09460@linda.lfix.co.uk>:

> Kai Henningsen wrote:
>   >A very different matter, OTOH, is just talking about it. I'm pretty far
>   >from convinced that we can safely draw the line before that.
>   >
>   >Incidentally, the bible is quite clearly on the wrong side of both my and
>   >your ideas about that line - it does promote incest, for example.
>
> Are you crazy or what?

Well, I think I got slightly confused there wrt which sex offenses - it  
was offering one's own virginal daughters for rape, not incest, what I was  
thinking about (Lot). Maybe I confused it with the idea that when you  
sleep with your brother's widow, you shouldn't pull out before the climax  
(Onan).

Of course, the Lot story _has_ double father-daughter incest at the end,  
and the bible doesn't try to condemn it in the least as far as I can see -  
in fact, it also says that Abraham married his half-sister in the very  
next chapter.

Sorry for the confusion, but lots of "good" people in the bible are doing  
lots of stuff that would put them in jail over here.

>   >           However,
>   >people get incensed about purity and not about the bible. Something to
>   >ponder ...
>
> I don't know if some of you are going out of your way to try to offend
> Christians.  You are succeeding.

Not at all. Maybe you should really _read_ the Bible sometime. If it was  
any other book, Christians would probably be trying to burn stuff like  
that.

It's amazing how many Christians don't know what's in there. It gets  
pretty explicit at times.

MfG Kai


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