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Re: not a first amendment question



Hi,
>>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <kaih@khms.westfalen.de> writes:

Kai> olly@lfix.co.uk (Oliver Elphick) wrote on 30.11.97 in
Kai> <199711301605.QAA09460@linda.lfix.co.uk>:
>> Kai Henningsen wrote: A very different matter, OTOH, is just
>> talking about it. I'm pretty far from convinced that we can safely
>> draw the line before that.
>> >
>> >Incidentally, the bible is quite clearly on the wrong side of both
>> my and your ideas about that line - it does promote incest, for
>> example.
>> 
>> Are you crazy or what?

Kai> Well, I think I got slightly confused there wrt which sex
Kai> offenses - it was offering one's own virginal daughters for rape,
Kai> not incest, what I was thinking about (Lot). Maybe I confused it
Kai> with the idea that when you sleep with your brother's widow, you
Kai> shouldn't pull out before the climax (Onan).

Kai> Of course, the Lot story _has_ double father-daughter incest at
Kai> the end, and the bible doesn't try to condemn it in the least as
Kai> far as I can see - in fact, it also says that Abraham married his
Kai> half-sister in the very next chapter.

Kai> Sorry for the confusion, but lots of "good" people in the bible
Kai> are doing lots of stuff that would put them in jail over here.

	Also (I always thought the christian moral outrage about
 incest was funny), if we all descend from Adam and Eve, how the heck
 do you think we procreated if not through incest?

	manoj
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