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Re: Withdrawing (temporarily) from the debian project



On  2 Dec, Shaya Potter wrote:

> When I was talking with the author of linuxconf, he was telling me that the
> main reason he aims linuxconf at redhat and slackware (now, I guess, mostly
> at Redhat) is because with those systems, you know what's going to be on
> them.  i.e. Sendmail, Apache....  With debian, we can have sendmail, smail,
> exim, zmailer, Apace, boa..... Choice isn't a bad thing, but it can detract
> from the overwell cohesivness of the dist.  We have to have a good method of
> getting rid of the chaf and maybe make it harder for people to become
> "developers"  but not contributers.  An idea would be to make it so that
> anyone can package a package (like now), but to let it be included in the
> dist.  One "developer" has to agree to adopt the package and maintain it.
> If a package gets orphaned, and their are other packages that do the same
> job as it, if no one is willing to maintain it, it gets moved out of the
> main dist.  We need a formalized method of pruning the dist. 

I like what you are getting at.  However, I don't think that we should
limit who gets to develop.  I agree, we need fewer *package
maintainers*.  What we need to do is point new people towards other
projects.  Someone (like myself) instead of being wrapped into the
package maintaining role could come on the crew of one of the other
projects.  This would a) better utilize our resources in those wanting
to "help out Debian" and b) take some of the load off some of the
higher positions in Debian.

An example position might be to be part of the Debian Support Staff -
these would be Developers who don't have the experience to buils there
own packages and help out elsewhere but would agree to subscribe,
listen to, and reply to (with an answer) the debian-user mailing list
at least once a day (or so).

Another position could be the Debian Documentation Staff.  We *always*
need more things written and his may be able to be done by new people
that can't time commit to a package.

These kind of jobs require less of a hard and fast commitment, but will
help us much.  And there are _much_ more.

I will work on this idea some later (maybe after Exams and Christmas
break).

                - Paul J Thompson

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